UH recruiting numbers: 7 and 11

The Warriors brought in seven players on recruiting visits this past weekend. Three had committed before arriving on the island. One committed on Saturday. Three did not receive offers … yet.

This weekend, the final one before the Feb. 4 signing day, the Warriors are bringing in 11 recruits.

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The volleyball Warriors had a fund-raiser/banquet last night in the Stan Sheriff Center.

Middle blocker Taylor Averill:

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MC Brooks Baehr and sand volleyball head coach Jeff Hall:

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Outside hitter Kupono Fey and opposite attacker Brook Sedore:

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Setter Jennings Franciskovic:

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Brooks Baehr and KFVE GM John Fink:

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Head coach Charlie Wade and one of our favorite bloggers:

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The “Aunties”:

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  1. NorthShoreFan January 26, 2015 9:44 am

    Time of the year where excitement abound. Welcome to our new WARRIORS!

  2. boolakanaka January 26, 2015 9:47 am

    Where did Kesiʻs son end-up, or did he stay a cornhusker?

  3. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 9:48 am

    hope Holmes was 1 of the 7

  4. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 9:49 am

    Difference between now and Von Appen is:
    1. We don’t have a AD
    2. We don’t even have half a coaching staff.
    3. Our current staff is mostly grad assistants
    4. We actually fired Von Appen after 3 seasons so at least changes were made. Von Appen left a little talent with him for Jones.
    5. We hired a coach that brought in real coaches.
    6. Sucking in a era where Power 5 conferences are making a big move hurts more.
    7. Attendance and money is hurting much worse than it was.

    Factoring everything, the state of our program is just as bad or worse. And im sticking with my opinion.

  5. azwarrior22 January 26, 2015 9:50 am

    Let’s hope they put the full press and wine and dine the recruits on this last weekend to fill their critical needs.

  6. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 9:51 am

    It is so easy to use the negative recruiting approach against Hawaii if a team wants to poach right now. All it takes is to say, your coach is on his final year, we are building something here, come be a part of it.

  7. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 9:51 am

    after 2/4 signing day, Chow should host a weekend of official visitors for preferred walkons, at least for local kids. it might cost some money now, but i think it could pay off in the long run. wine and dine these kids and show them you want them and that they can eventually earn scholarships.

  8. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 9:55 am

    5. wine and dine is the least of our issues in regards to recruiting. Lack of connections and poor evaluating has been the problem… evaluation is the most important aspect when trying to rebuild. Utah St. evaluated when they were one of the worst programs in the country. They didn’t out recruit to land most of their kids. They scouted well, evaluated, and had the right connections. I mean, they beat our Air Force for Chuckie Keeton. I guess thats a big win, but he wasn’t highly recruited. The Vigil brothers are also a product of great evaluating.

  9. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 9:58 am

    Forgot to mention we didn’t even recruit Brian Suite.. Sad when a rebuilding team can evaluate a local prospect better than Hawaii coaches.. And this was on Macks staff.

  10. al January 26, 2015 10:00 am

    Any names beside the Butler?

  11. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 10:01 am

    10. I think OL Austin Webb visited and was offered. 6-7 tackle . Not confirmed though.

  12. al January 26, 2015 10:02 am

    What’s going on with the WR?

  13. boolakanaka January 26, 2015 10:08 am

    Alas Jeezy, you are only considering this on the football consideration before you….but, anytime you deal with a state supported university, and the flag-ship institution at that, well you have to also consider the fiscal health of both the institution and the state itself. The ability of a state to support such programs is as crucial as high end boosters.

    Actually, on a per capita, student basis, while UH is no Boola U, it is actually endowment wise, a bit better than UNLV. Now, from a state perspective, Hawaiʻi for all the doom and gloom editorials, is in much better financial health, historically and at present, than Nevada. How did Boola come to such lofty conclusions? Well, if you look at the following portable metrics that one would typically anaylze state fiscal health: Overview
    Economy and People
    Long-term Costs
    Fiscal Policy

    And we are ahead in most categories. Again, it is hard to recreate interest in a program. Consider, the inverse, what if the topic were basketball in lieu of football? I would say, without a doubt, UNLV is in a much better position–as they previously experienced and enjoyed success. Its always much easier than getting back to the top, then having never been there…

  14. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 10:11 am

    I always appreciate your opinions, and I’m glad you stick by your convictions.
    But you’re wrong, though.
    It was bad back then. The governor and head coach were fighting publicly. There were GAs with no experience who became full-time coaches. One of the assistants had pissed off so many local coaches that one year the team didn’t bother to recruit locally. There were tensions between groups of players. The starting QB was arrested at a gambling house. The school stopped taking Props. UH threatened to sue the schools that broke away from the WAC. The OC walked down on the field, strolling through the end zone … while the game still was going on. Later, he incorrectly thought he owed UH money, so he didn’t sign for the special delivery of his final paycheck …

  15. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 10:12 am

    He visited but was not offered … yet.

  16. Da Punchbowl Kid January 26, 2015 10:12 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Howzit NSF! How’s things out in God’s country?

    Hoping for lots of good news on the recruiting front in the coming weeks!

  17. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 10:16 am

    14. Maybe I’m just being a downer but were def not in a good place right now. Even if better than FVA days.

    I just don’t see who is going to come coach for us without the guarantee of being back a 2nd year. Hard to tell a coach come rebuild something, but we have to do it now or were gone.

  18. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 10:19 am

    I had two friends — past tense — who were BYU fans but had never been to a BYU game. So I managed to get them two sideline tickets.
    After the game, they called to thank me, saying they had a great time … right up until they were pepper-sprayed. Yep, fight in the stands, in which FVA’s wife was collateral damage.

  19. Da Punchbowl Kid January 26, 2015 10:20 am

    Interesting posts… started my post when in second, multi-tasked, came back and a lot of good stuff put up in the interim.

  20. jm2375 January 26, 2015 10:21 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Hope everyone had a good time at the MVB fundraiser last night. Hope they made plenny kala.

    BTW, the other lady in the “Aunties” picture is none other than Nick Castello’s mom.

    Wish Jeff Hall the best in his new position(s). I already miss seeing him and his family at games.


  21. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 10:21 am

    FVA had a rule where nobody could step on the grass (unless it was a football field).
    At the end of the practice in Las Vegas, FVA was hiding behind a shrub. Whenever a player cut across the grass, he would yell: “Don’t step on the grass!”
    Ferd inadvertently stepped on the grass, and FVA yelled: “Don’t step on the grass!”
    Ferd yelled back: “I don’t play for you!”
    Ah, good times …

  22. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 10:26 am

    hope we have a big recruiting weekend, quite discouraged by our class so far.

  23. kapakahi January 26, 2015 10:28 am

    Hopefully Salanoa Alo-Wily still among the the 11 visitors tripping UH this coming weekend.

  24. kapakahi January 26, 2015 10:32 am


    RB commit Mel Davis and CB Jayshawn Lowe were the other 2 visitors from SMC this past weekend……with CB commit Dejaun Butler.

  25. hitman January 26, 2015 10:34 am

    aloha and good morning everyone !! ST of the committed how much is just soft?
    jeezy33 i under stand what you try to say !! going be hard trying to get a good oc, dc, db coach to come here and coach for a year and they see who we play this year !! and it also not going look good on there record !!

  26. kapakahi January 26, 2015 10:37 am

    Visitor list this coming weekend definitely needs to include some NT/DT prospects……probably from JC ranks….but hopefully from HS ranks too.

  27. al January 26, 2015 10:38 am

    20…the one woman marketing department for mvb.

  28. al January 26, 2015 10:39 am

    So did the three prior commits affirm their pledges?

  29. champ January 26, 2015 10:39 am

    Von App had some talent on the team when he left. I’ll give him that even when he said “there is a mechanism” for him to be relieved of his job. Wow, he asked to be fired. At least he was honest with himself that he couldn’t do the job. Its the least I can say about another person of note. I am not hearing enough about 4 and 5 star recruits coming for visits, if so then scrap the past offensive game plans cause it will be doomed to failure!! I dont care if Wiitek plays because he will get sacked too many times too quickly to be effective.

  30. A-House January 26, 2015 10:42 am

    I do hope the “stars start to align quickly” to bring in the necessary coaches.

    What is the reason(s) Chow will not fire Wynn and hire a new OC? is he looking only for “YES, Coach” and limit their creativeness; hire a DC and DBs coaches? IMHO, his tenure has been filled with missteps for success starting with being a new HC and hiring GAs as assistant coaches with very limited experience.

    Have the “positions” been advertised to start the 10-day waiting period?

    Will the UH BOR mandating to the President that XXXX % of all funds will be allocated to athletics be considered “micro-managing”?

    Will the Legislature allocating a special line item in the Budget of $7 million for gender equity and travel expense be considered overriding the “autonomy” granted to UH?

    Even things set in concrete can change – ever notice how drops of water can erode concrete?

  31. al January 26, 2015 10:45 am

    22…I like the committed thus far.
    I agree that the last few commits need to address immediate needs.

    The influx of JC prospects really paints the picture for this Chow regime…must win this year if he wants to be seen beyond 2015.

  32. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 10:47 am

    we handicapped ourselves w greyshirts, return missionaries and transfers. thats like half our class already.

  33. al January 26, 2015 10:49 am

    29…4-5 star recruits?
    A rather unheard of occurrence for a mid-major program such as hawaii. Rare and far in between. We have on occasion gotten bounce backs and transfers that land on our doorstep.

  34. al January 26, 2015 10:54 am

    Mission bound recruits do not count for the year that they were originally recruited only upon their eligible year of enrollment.

    The “BYU rule” has been very successful for them the past few decades. Utah also has prospered from that as well. These guys comeback mature physically and mentally.

  35. Old School Dave January 26, 2015 11:03 am

    ST: Don’t forget the brawl between local and mainland players in the cafeteria, along with the assistant who told Dan Robinson that he “Didn’t like the idea of a Mormon quarterbacking the team.” Players on the team were telling local recruits to no come to UH. Iwalani High? – In reference to RB Joe Igber.

  36. Old School Dave January 26, 2015 11:07 am

    ST: Don’t forget the OC who chewed out the bell hop at a local hotel the team was staying at.

  37. SteveM January 26, 2015 11:09 am

    Good morning everyone!

    A-House — I figure no great rush/panic to hire coaches this minute. The damage is already done–the coaches announcing they are leaving at this time in the recruiting cycle. Any move now will be in desperation unless Chow already had a replacement in mind before the transfers. Whether Chow does or not, he has at least until Spring training to find the best available replacements.

  38. FCWarrior January 26, 2015 11:10 am

    Great past stories, ST. Did’nt realize the issues even back then. You’re like a walking history book!!! I’m sure there will be more stories to add from this past season.

  39. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 11:11 am

    hopefully these RM work out. im skeptical though.

    Kauhi, Collie, Zwahlen, Lavaka and Ursua. at least the first 2 are enrolled. the last 3 could come back and decide to go elsewhere. or they dont have the fire for football anymore. but we still have to reserve scholarships for them until we know for sure.

  40. jm2375 January 26, 2015 11:20 am

    al-san – dat’s me! 😆 🙄

  41. Warbow January 26, 2015 11:21 am

    You got to love all the comparisons between Norm Chow and Fred von Appen here. Seems Hawaii has reverted back to the FVA days with all the constant coaching coaches and hiring Grad asst as full time coaches. While FVA’s crew was battling between themselves and local high school coaches, Norm and his crew are battling between themselves and certain news reporters.

  42. Warbow January 26, 2015 11:26 am

    For those who are wondering why Hawaii has not hired a DC, OC, DB coaches yet and hired GA as full time coaches? It’s called the lack of money and leadership from the AD. Look at all the money they are saving right now not having to pay them until March.

  43. boolakanaka January 26, 2015 11:27 am

    Damn, this sole can hit and run. Reminds alot of Pisa….going to UO….see:http://www.hudl.com/athlete/1487608/highlights/170695375

  44. pollypicador January 26, 2015 11:37 am

    Look at last seasons scores. Does it look like a train wreck? 11 of the 13 games the Warriors held their own. The season before likewise.

    Lost 17-16
    Lost 38-30
    Won 27-24
    Lost 21-12
    Lost 28-14
    Won 38-28
    Lost 20-10
    Lost 26-18
    Lost 35-14
    Lost 49-22
    Won 13-0
    Won 37-35
    Lost 28-21

    Further, go to a football practice.

    Up tempo. Players from the minute they walk onto the field are quickly practicing (there’s no fooling around…no wasted time). Beemer runs them hard with stretching, agility and wind sprints (players that slack are pointed out and held back to run extra after practice). Much of the attention during practice is a mix of situational drills, 7 0n 7, team drills, technique drills and special teams. The grass practice field or turf field is tops. Both are manicured nicely. The video crew mans two towers with the third up on the hill overlooking the end zone. The times I was present at practice there was also a referee crew making practice drills simulating game like conditions. This is not train wreck. In fact practices are impressive. One would also be surprised of the number of players that put in extra time in after practice.

    Chow has his faults. True. But he also has vision.

    When he first came aboard he petitioned and received higher stipends for his players. Second he was behind having the school give out medical scholarships to his players that had career ending injuries. Third he lead the passage of having the training table open to all of his players. Last season the team also began flying (in some instances) directly to their game day destinations.

    The criticism that follows Chow are warranted. There have been less than seasoned coaches on Chow’s staff. There has been turmoil…and to my perspective it looks like from the head coach on down to his assistants–everyone is learning on the fly. There’s no denying that. Hopefully the staff grows up wiser in a hurry.

    When I add everything up–the gap between winning and losing, the scores, my observations the one variable I see that convinces me why Chow’s program isn’t a train wreck is reading the look in the eyes of Chow’s players(this is the backbone of the program)–it’s sincere…they have faith and respect in their head coach (in some cases they’re training year round with the participation rate very high) . It’s so real I can detect that look, it’s in their heart, the hunger and drive to improve…it’s not a façade.

    Chow’s hit the abyss. I hope he hits the pinnacle of success. But there’s no way I feel the wheels falling off of the football program or compare his team with worst teams in UH football history. Like I said before I like Warrior game days.

  45. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 11:41 am

    medical scholarships is nothing new. in fact, id say Chow uses them incorrectly.

  46. graham January 26, 2015 11:41 am

    Do any of you remember the name of that 5 star recruit that we got with June Jones? I am pretty sure he is the only one we have ever gottten. He was JUCO LB I believe. Maybe like 7-8 years ago.

  47. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 11:46 am

    Chad Kalilimoku was 5 stars by rivals but that was like 15 years ago

  48. kapakahi January 26, 2015 11:49 am

    #46. I think that you’re referring to…..Chad Kalilimoku……over 10 years ago.

    JMHO that the biggest name recruits ever signed during the JJ era……that actually played for UH were…..Pisa Tinoisamoa & Isaac Sopoaga.

  49. kev-1 January 26, 2015 11:49 am

    Chow … VonAppen … no real comparison there. Very different types of human beings. The problems with the program are just too different. BUT, that does not mean that the state of the football program isn’t equally in bad shape. Just a different kind of bad shape.

    ST, the issues that you bring up about FVA are just too different than what Jeezy and many others are concerned with. I think the HUGE point that Jeezy made was that UH is struggling at a time when it should be making more of a statement not to be left out while the Power 5 push further and further away. Relevance is really important in today’s college football world. Sadly, UH is probably one of the more irrelevant programs left. Nobody cares about the Hawaii rule anymore. People aren’t seeking out Hawaii to fill that slot anymore.

    Things are just as bad. Just different bad.

    BUT, ST has forgotten more about UH football than I will ever know, so this is obviously just my opinion.

  50. graham January 26, 2015 11:50 am

    #47-48- That was the name, Thank you

  51. kev-1 January 26, 2015 11:53 am

    polyp … # 44

    Yes, Chow does have a vision. Just like every other coach in the nation. The problem is, his vision is looking in the rear view mirror. His vision is to try and do here what he did elsewhere. That just won’t work with Hawaii. Sure there are good things about his program: discipline, practice tempo, fundamentals, etc. like you mentioned. But the innovation is lacking.

  52. kimo browner January 26, 2015 11:54 am

    How can any period in our modern history be as worst than it is now at Manoa athletics? Leadership and competency is lacking at all levels of administration, government and community. Not to mention the football program itself. The system is broken and they keep using the same model and the same clueless decision makers. It’s like ground hog day, except nothing improves and it keeps getting worst.
    Case in point, the manner of terminating our UHAD and the system in place to find a replacement. The delay will cause irreparable damage to several programs–revenue producing programs. The process focuses on PROCESS itself rather than timing. Frustrating!

  53. Inyoface January 26, 2015 12:11 pm

    I’ll never be friends with a guy that doesn’t know or like watching football.

  54. Turfwar January 26, 2015 12:18 pm

    I too like the committed we have so far. At the end of the day we are much like other mid major schools in that we get the best players available. Like it was mentioned earlier less than 4% of all football players make it to a D-1 program which means there a bunch of great players that never get a chance. We just gotta hope the coaching staff finds the right guys. The key is finding the hidden gems that might have been overlooked or somehow lost in the recruiting process or somehow have a connection to the state. If a kid wants to go to a school like UNLV then so be it. Good luck. They still have problems that go way beyond what is happening at UH. Programs are still losing accreditation and that is serious stuff not quickly fixed. A niece goes there. But if Salanoa can be swayed by a coach who has never coached in a college game then he was probably looking to get away in the first place and we need to let him go with blessings. Heck that 6’7″ 300 pound O-tackle Jeezy pointed out looks like someone who offers potentially a very high ceiling at a position we have always struggled to find. Offer that guy Salanoa’s scholie and celebrate if he chooses to be a Warrior. On another note I was watching the McKinley-Farrington basketball game this weekend and Dash mentioned that he had heard that as soon as Marcus is drafted Nike is looking to make him the highest paid Nike guy in the NFL. Then it dawned on me I didn’t even know who the Nike NFL guy is. In golf it’s Tiger and in basketball it must be Lebron but have no idea who the football guy is. Marcus would be a great guy if everything works out especially if drafted by Philly.

  55. PONO January 26, 2015 12:37 pm

    I too like this class.
    -Riggins could be a homerun hitter type of back
    -Collie can help us in the slot
    -Ursua brings speed and shiftiness which we lack
    -Afalava and Matautia are can help the defensive backfield
    -Agasiva, Lavaka and Northrop have some beef for the Oline.
    -Williams looks like a beast and JC all american
    -If Holmes stays with us that is the outside speed we’ve been missing
    -Butler looks like a solid corner

    My only concern is that we don’t have a NG/NT commitment like others have said and I’d like to see another QB. Can’t have enough of those.

  56. man eating apple January 26, 2015 12:38 pm

    LOL I just knew someone would come out and say “look at last year’s scores, they were pretty close!” Bunch of shibai to look at biased scores after garbage time was run through.

    Game #2: Lost 38-30. But was down 38-7 by start of 4th quarter.
    Game #4: Lost 21-12. UH was 14-for-41 passing, 34% is horrendous.
    Game #7: Lost 20-10. UH got 12 first downs and 264 total yards. At least our punter was All-MWC.
    Game #9: Lost 35-14. Other team stopped passing by 4th quarter or this would have been really bad. Their QB was 14-for-15 passing.
    Game #11: Won 13-0. UH got 11 first downs and 240 total yards. Unfortunately I missed Sportscenter, so I missed all those highlights.
    Game #13: Lost 28-21. But was being shutout 28-0 by 4th quarter

    Guess Chow is getting proficient at making almost comebacks. Is that what he’s here for?

  57. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 12:40 pm

    54. Potential is nice… but we need some ready now guys…. Which kind of is to blame for not addressing needs earlier. I think Daronte whiffed on a lot of his DB recruits forcing us to recruit more dbs again. We abandoned O linemen last year which forced us to go a little too heavy this year. And we neglected D linemen last year because it was a strength, but failing to realize we needed guys for this coming year.. Then we whiffed on a lot of our LB recruits in year 1 and 2 forcing us to recruit a lot of JC lBs the past 2 seasons to make up for it.

  58. st. anthony trojan January 26, 2015 12:43 pm

    Polly… me appreciate the time u take to make ur informative post..n attending practice..n impart to us all ur views n opinions…

    Would agree… that…there is not a train wreck up there… but the ‘diesel’ that is pulling the cars….needs much help…n attention then it has now….diesel being…admin…coach…staff at UHAD office..etc…

    For me recruiting ‘stars’ are not that important…as say ‘dreams n vision’ of players…are…there are many a walk on that made it..even playing on sundays…or in Belgium…n all should be commended for their ‘dreams’….

    Many do with less then 5 stars…Father Bray…Red Rocha (fab-5), Merv Lopes…Jimmy Yagi…Navalta (byu volleybal)…Sharon Peterson (uh hilo womens volleyball)… comes to mind…n many great teachers n organizers in other endeavors…Pearl City High School Band comes to mind…(michael nakasone)…

    If we are recruiting the talent for a mid-major school…what is wrong with the ‘diesel’ that is pulling our cars ??? While most agree…there is sumthing definitely wrong…at this point in time…me don’t think there is enough fingers on ones hand to point it out…maybe it will change this coming season…hope so…

  59. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 12:44 pm

    55. Riggins is a 3rd down back/ possible slot in my opinion. I don’t see the homerun hitter. wasn’t that way in high school, and don’t see him just taking off after not dominating high school. Harris Ross was the home run type back but he’s going to JC.
    Collie looks solid but never know with mission guys.
    Ursua has been away from the game for almost 3 years now because he left late. So no one knows what kind of shape he is in or if he is even enrolled.
    Kind of agree with the other players assessments though. We need some beef on the D line bad. Hopefully someone on the current roster emerges as a edge rusher.

  60. islandman January 26, 2015 12:51 pm

    14. Didn’t recall FvA fighting with Ben, so long ago.
    21. A practice field grass doesn’t count as a football field ?

  61. st. anthony trojan January 26, 2015 12:55 pm

    Man eating apple…. shame on you missing the highlights for game # 11…
    that was ‘coaches’ crowning point…LOL…LOL

  62. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 12:57 pm

    Here’s how I think a recruiting class should be structured…..
    25 scholarships.
    6 need to be immediate guys. Impact right away.
    1-2 must be QBs. Finding the right QB is like hitting a lottery. The more you bring in, the better your chances are. Good evaluation matters, but sometimes it’s hard to be decisive who the right guy is. Taking 2 guys u like gives you a better chance
    2 grey shirts max.
    14 guys are guys you should really like but know about a year or 2 away to learn system and get faster/stronger.
    5 guys worth taking on upside/potential alone. Ex. QB that runs a 4.45 electronic 40 but want to convert to WR. Similar to a Ewaliko would fit this bill.

    Breakdown on average year
    LBs- 2-3
    DB- 3
    Athlete-4 – ability to move from S to lB or choose between WR or corner. etc.
    Best available guy-2

    I’m lower on LBs because i believe athletes or safeties can make good transition to LB in college. Like Matautia can right now.

  63. hatakeman January 26, 2015 1:00 pm

    I think the biggest misjudgment by Chow was in deciding to delay the start of his head coaching with Hawaii by electing to coach Utah in their 2012 bowl game. This set into motion a late start in establishing his staff and recruiting. He’s been in catch-up mode every year since. A situation that has been exasperated with coaching changes every year and this year is no exception with the departure of Dorante’ Jones and Kevin Clune. Recruiting has obviously suffered. But the loss of continuity is an even greater impact. It takes all pieces of the coaching staff to be on the same page in order to realize success. Hawaii’s 8-29 record is reflective of this instability.

  64. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 1:04 pm

    doesnt help that 7 of our signees from the 2013 class have already transferred. and another has medically retired.

  65. leron January 26, 2015 1:11 pm

    ST, with all talk of recruiting, how about an update of last year’s class and where they stand now? Know a few got time as true fresh, like Nelson, Lewis, Rogers, and Unga. Where are guys like Mageo, who Clune was high on, traveled on road games, but was never used? Think it’s hard to fully judge last two classes since there’s not a big sample on their body of work.

  66. hatakeman January 26, 2015 1:12 pm

    I just read that Austin Webb committed to the Montana State Bobcats.

  67. Turfwar January 26, 2015 1:22 pm

    Webb committed months ago. He still made the trip. Schools don’t stop recruiting a kid when he’s given a verbal. Look at the kids Hawaii has lost just this recruiting year. But it’s gone both ways.

  68. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 1:30 pm

    67. Exactly… Also has a preferred walk on spot at Texas A&M. Which is intriguing because that school has a knack for producing NFL caliber tackles. You could tell a school like that wants a project like Hill but just doesn’t have room with that big time recruiting class of theirs.

  69. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 1:44 pm

    I think football recruiting is a little more complex than going through Web sites and picking out a player you think is available.
    There needs to be a relationship or ties. This isn’t fantasy football.
    I think some coaches have the knack for it, some don’t. It’s an art to be personable. Most people here have that gift. Then again, if I were a parent of a prospect, I wouldn’t let my kid anywhere near some of the creepy people. Why are you trying to be friends with my teenager? Like that creep in the black jacket who heckles softball players? Yikes. Call NBC Dateline. lol.

  70. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 1:50 pm

    A couple years ago, a reader said UH absolutely needed to bring in a certain lineman. So, UH brings him on a trip. He hops on the scale, and it starts spinning like Wheel of Fortune. It stopped at 380. Every time I bring up a reader’s suggestion, a wiseacre always asks: Does he weigh 380?

  71. jeezy33 January 26, 2015 1:52 pm

    Then again, if you follow how other schools with lower budgets approach recruiting, you can see the difference in what makes them successful. I closely followed Boise through the years, Utah St and Colorado st recently and we are far behind in how we approach recruiting kids. We have 1 ace on staff as far as recruiting goes. not enough. I don’t even pay attention to Boise because they are in the big boys league now and we can’t really tough the type of players they go after

  72. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 1:57 pm

    Anyway, my point is Hawaii is never going to be a Big-Five school. A more reasonable goal is to try to compete with San Diego State. That’s the real sleeping giant.
    As for UNLV, it was in real trouble until it got that infusion of UFC money. But the school just doesn’t have the fan base. People aren’t going to Vegas to watch football. As for UNLV recruiting Hawaii, that’s a mistake. It’s over-fished. UNLV should target Southern California. It’s a relatively close drive.

  73. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 1:59 pm

    Actually, one of Boise’s key recruiting guys a couple years ago — Bo Montgomery — is on the UH staff now.

  74. hatakeman January 26, 2015 2:01 pm

    The recruits Hawaii lost are directly linked to the departure of Kevin Clune to Utah State and Joe Seumalo at UNLV. Austin Webb committed first week Dec 2014. He had a nice Hawaii trip.

  75. Old Diver January 26, 2015 2:02 pm


    Iolani’s Father Bray won the old fashion way. He recruited the best players from every island. In the documentary “One Team” Bray’s players openly talked about how he recruited them to play football.

  76. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 2:03 pm

    i dont think we lost those 2 kids bc of Clune. Clune did not recruit them while at Hawaii and i doubt he is the point recruiter for them at USU. it was just a coincidence that they tripped USU the same week Clune was announced as their new DC.

  77. kapakahi January 26, 2015 2:04 pm


    Powell definitely has the knack for recruiting……in building relationships and maintaining ties.

    However, main concern with this year’s recruiting efforts are I worry about is…….that Chow seems to have taken a more active hands-on approach this year with recruiting certain positions……since no DC, ILB, and DB position coaches……which may be counter-productive to prior efforts by Powell when recruiting these same positions……since the HC obviously always has the final say……but don’t know if Chow still has the knack for it……since he hasn’t done it before this year…….at least for UH.

  78. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 2:17 pm

    we need to upgrade our walkon program again, to supplement our recruiting classes. this was a big time help from ’00 till recently.

  79. kapakahi January 26, 2015 2:18 pm


    It’s a good thing for UH that…..San Diego and its sports community are definitely more concerned with the Padres and the Chargers……than they ever will be about the Aztecs.

  80. kapakahi January 26, 2015 2:23 pm


    JR Hensley has a nice Hawaii trip too.

  81. kapakahi January 26, 2015 2:23 pm

    …..had a nice Hawaii trip too.

  82. Jalansky January 26, 2015 2:26 pm

    Polypicador: Thank you for the thoughtful, well written and, above all, refreshing comment.

  83. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 2:31 pm

    has Chow ever thought about running satellite camps on the mainland?

  84. gigi-hawaii January 26, 2015 2:33 pm

    So, who are the AUNTIES?
    Best wishes to Chow. Hope he gets the recruits he wants.

  85. Stephen Tsai January 26, 2015 2:49 pm

    Hensley wants to come. UH didn’t offer. Yet.

  86. letsgowarriors January 26, 2015 2:51 pm

    i like Hensley but hopefully we dont end up offering him…bc Ulu-Perry commits to us…LMAO

  87. Old School Dave January 26, 2015 3:28 pm

    You win some, you lose some. Even happens to the mightly Pac-12 teams. Southern Florida and U of LA-Lafayette?:


  88. Inyoface January 26, 2015 3:36 pm

    I don’t think its the players we have but more on the offensive play calling.

  89. BigFan January 26, 2015 4:06 pm

    Hey Seahawk fans, I was following Ben Northrup on twitter and he had retweeted this from youtube. Check it out it’s pretty well done:


  90. oneseason January 26, 2015 4:34 pm

    I hope coach Chow’s 2015 recruiting planning has a lot of last minute zoom in it (or the website below is not accurate) because currently he is 125 out of 129 on Rivals. But since they had UH tied for #111 for the 2014 season, a big zoom in the ranking seems unlikely.


  91. Turfwar January 26, 2015 4:58 pm

    Thanks Bigfan. Pretty cool video. I’m now a fan of Marie Hui. And that ranking is pretty outdated oneseason. They based Hawaii’s ranking on only 7 recruits and we have a bunch more at this point.

  92. oneseason January 26, 2015 5:07 pm

    #91 … Turfwar … Thanks. That is good to hear.

  93. BigFan January 26, 2015 5:56 pm

    Turfwar, glad you liked it.

    Anyone, are we still in the running for this guy? DONTE SYLENCIEUX.

  94. BigFan January 26, 2015 5:58 pm

    Donte has a tough name to pronounce but if we get him, we can call him the “silencer”, lol.

  95. Boolakanaka January 26, 2015 6:01 pm

    Look for the birds to trade Nick, to make room for MM, seehttp://www.oregonlive.com/nfl/index.ssf/2015/01/to_land_marcus_mariota_eagles.html#incart_more_sports

  96. BigFan January 26, 2015 6:11 pm

    Seems like we had a lot of DB prospects like Chuck Davis, James Jones, Trequan Smith, Cameron Hayes. Are we still in the running to get any of these guys? They all had pretty decent ratings.

  97. Boolakanaka January 26, 2015 6:42 pm

    Alas, some some positive news—see;http://www.civilbeat.com/2015/01/uh-report-uh-manoa-athletics-big-part-of-hawaiis-economy/

  98. kapakahi January 26, 2015 7:50 pm


    Don’t know if UH has any real chance……but there’s still hope…….


  99. A-House January 26, 2015 7:54 pm

    I forgot my own message – do not concern/worry yourself about things you cannot control.

    “Que Sera Sera! What ever will be, will be” – my oh my, loved that Doris Day!

  100. David J. January 26, 2015 8:09 pm

    Boy! Hawaii should make a television series called? Let’s be Crazy!. It’s about the University of Hawaii football program!. They’re go out and recruiting players. But the most funny about this they only have half of their coaching staff! Most important thing that they don’t have to much college coaching experience too!. Is this a big joke on us? I’m not laughing!. Come on whatever taking so long to get a really experience coaching staff? Coach Norm Chow it’s really not funny for us or your players we are waiting so long now! Pleases really get a great coaching staff with great experience and let get seriously about it!.

  101. 3-Prong January 26, 2015 8:35 pm

    75 OldDiver: you a Red Raider? Invoved in documentary fund raiser or just see it at the film festival?

  102. hitman January 26, 2015 8:38 pm

    would be nice to see hawaii get some of the best minds in the games come back for one season!! just love there love for the UH and football program !! JJ as oc, wags & tomey co. dc, and mieno as db coach !! dream team!!

  103. beans January 26, 2015 9:01 pm

    I totally agree. The play calling was frustrating most of the season. We did not play to our players strengths in the beginning. Of course with Joey in there our passing game was more effective at the end. Got to run to pass………..normally.
    I am rooting for Unger to have a great game however can’t stand Sherman and his constant chirping. I would like to see him get knocked on his ass so I am on the Pats and Gronk to prevail.

  104. Graham January 26, 2015 9:09 pm

    Not be a jerk or anything, but the June Jones talk has to stop. June jones flat out quit on SMU this year. His offense needs to be tweaked and he is a lazy recruiter. If Chow can not get the job gone we should look for a up and comer. I respect what coach Jones did for the program, in fact his amazing offense and great QB was the reason why I love UH football but he really let me down after the sugar bowl because he didn’t leave for a good job and he really didn’t do much in his finale years at SMU.

  105. kev-1 January 26, 2015 9:43 pm

    So who is the “student athlete” that threw the stress ball out on the basketball court the other day? Reardon mentioned that in his column. I am pretty sure that the area was where football players were sitting. They showed some after the game talking to the basketball players.

    Just curious.

  106. st. anthony trojan January 26, 2015 9:47 pm

    me is sure there is a reasonable reason… but why offer a dude a trip here.. n then not offer him A SCHOLIE …YET ??

  107. Inyoface January 26, 2015 10:03 pm

    Who’s our defensive coordinator? Bring back Jerry Glanville!

  108. el burro sabio January 26, 2015 10:26 pm

    I have often changed my mind after gathering more information.

  109. BigFan January 26, 2015 10:56 pm

    #106, SAT, It could be to have that player be a walk on or a possible offer if the upcoming players decide not to accept a scholarship. I believe that’s why ST said they were not offered “yet”.

  110. leron January 26, 2015 10:59 pm

    #105 My understanding is the athlete in question was from the swimming team.

  111. st. anthony trojan January 26, 2015 11:06 pm

    aww ok… sort of a ‘stand by’ n wait n see if have a scholie left over..then they offer huh…thanks…

  112. oldtimer808 January 26, 2015 11:12 pm

    #100 you drive me bananas with your incoherent writing style but then again that’s the way your mind works. You had written before that you were in college. Please tell me that isn’t true. This is the last time I will ever comment on the way you write.

  113. al January 26, 2015 11:30 pm

    98…a little birdie did tell me that it could happen.

  114. al January 26, 2015 11:31 pm

    99…Doris who?

  115. BigFan January 27, 2015 12:26 am

    Doug Kimmel, the Scout board analyst did say when he contacted Ulu-Perry, he was jacked up for his visit. Maybe???? That would make everything right. Well, maybe not everything.

  116. BigFan January 27, 2015 12:29 am

    A child molester is a pedophile. Is there a term for a geriatric molester? j/k.
    Those would be two sick types of people and I’m sure we have none of those on this board :).

  117. BigFan January 27, 2015 12:30 am

    Doris Day did have an innocent charm about her but that was a looooong time ago.

  118. Tempmanoa January 27, 2015 4:57 am

    I think our recruiting has been badly hurt by the turnover in coaching and the flat out errors in selection Chow made in choosing coaches, particularly his first staff and his offensive coordinators and defensive coordinators– Tommy Lee, Aaron Price, and Kaumeyer are key staff that just did not cut it and moneuy down the drain. He has a way to go to catch up. On the plus side, while younger talented players with choices are deterred by what is happening with our program, Hawaii players wanting to come home, and JC’s have either no other choices or few choices– especially if you want to play in Hawaii.

  119. Les January 27, 2015 6:19 am

    jeezy should apply for some kind of position. He knows a heck of a lot. You know what they say about a little is too much.

  120. Less January 27, 2015 7:01 am

    119 You have got to be kidding! Talk about deflated balls!

  121. PONO January 27, 2015 7:40 am

    Jeezy for DC or DB coach.

  122. Warbow January 27, 2015 8:14 am

    Jeezy would make a great recruiting coordinator.

  123. jeezy33 January 27, 2015 8:14 am

    come on guys .. stop.. I only focus on recruiting… passion I’ve been following closely for almost 15 years now. I’d be fired day 1 as a coach though.

  124. Stephen Tsai January 27, 2015 8:34 am

    Chances are still slim in getting Ulu-Perry, but it is a big deal that he is taking a visit. Besides, Naeole has known him for a quite a while.

  125. Marleysdad January 27, 2015 8:46 am

    I’d take “slim” over “no” anyday.

  126. PONO January 27, 2015 8:47 am

    Why is it a big deal that he’s visiting? Just the fact that we have a very slim chance?

  127. Marleysdad January 27, 2015 8:58 am

    I dunno, but I think we have a real chance.

  128. Stephen Tsai January 27, 2015 8:59 am

    It’s a big deal because he’s a good local player who wants to give UH a look-see.
    There are a lot of good local players who opted not to visit.

  129. Warbow January 27, 2015 9:00 am

    #123 Apparently family or friend ties does not work with Coach Chow. I’ve never seen Hawaii loss so many recruits that either had a brother or son that played for Hawaii as I’ve seen under Chow. Kamalei Correa and Salanoa Wily comes to mind.

  130. Stephen Tsai January 27, 2015 9:02 am

    I think I’d be a good recruiter.
    People like me.
    And those who don’t like me, still want to hang around me. I’m quite irresistible.

  131. letsgowarriors January 27, 2015 9:04 am

    Kamalei was leaving regardless who the coach was. when Mack offered him as a 8th or 9th grader, they basically said thanks but we’re gonna just put this in our back pocket.

    we still have a shot at Salanoa, IMO.

  132. Stephen Tsai January 27, 2015 9:04 am

    New post: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=27345

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