UH lands QB, WR
The Rainbow Warriors wasted little time in filling a QB opening, landing Beau Reilly, a former Colorado State commitment. They also received a solid commitment from wide receiver Don’Yeh Patterson of Carson High.
The Warriors targeted Reilly since November, but they already had a commitment from another quarterback. They also wanted to fill specific needs at linebacker and cornerback before adding to other spots. Soon after learning yesterday they were free to seek another quarterback, they called Reilly, who accepted.
Reilly, who was raised in San Diego, is 6-5 and 190 pounds. He will have five years to play four UH seasons.
He signed with Colorado State in 2011 with the understanding he would join after returning from a two-year church mission. But during his stay in Brazil, the Rams changed head coaches. Reilly decided he wanted to change schools, too, after returning from his mission this past November.
Through his brother Trevor Reilly, who was a linebacker at Utah, Beau Reilly was introduced to the UH coaches when the Rainbow Warriors were training in Salt Lake City between the Utah State and Navy road games.
“They checked out my film and told me I definitely could play there,” Reilly told the Warrior Beat. “It definitely stayed in my head. I think it will be a great opportunity to play for coach Chow and learn from him as well.”
From reports, it appears Reilly has a strong arm and is skilled in scrambling.
Reilly will be 21 when he joins UH as a true freshman this summer.
Of his mission, Reilly said: “I had an unbelievable time. You start out being a boy and come back a man. That’s how I feel. The life experiences, the things I passed through, the people I met completely shaped and formed my life to the way I am today. It was the best thing that happened to me so far in my life.”
Two Division I quarterbacks have shown interest in UH, but they won’t be free to transfer until after this semester ends.
Patterson, meanwhile, had offers from Utah, Colorado State and New Mexico State on the table when he received the go-ahead from Hawaii yesterday morning.
“I always knew I wanted to go there,” Patterson said.
Patterson said he is 6-2, 185 pounds and capable of running 40 yards in 4.5 seconds. He also competes on Carson’s 4×100 relay team.
“I’m excited about being a Warrior,” Patterson said.
Of note: Keyshawn Johnson was the connection, recommending Patterson to Chow.
Here are Reilly’s highlights: Reilly video
Here are Patterson’s highlights: Patterson videos
1st?
patience pays off sometimes. good morning tsaikos
Beau Reilly sounds like an upgrade over the qb we lost to USC and Pattersons 4.5 speed will only get better once he gets into the strength and conditioning program. Great upside on both these guys.
interesting to note that beau’s dad and brother played at byu-hawaii at one time
That “BYU” system may work for us. Having a mature QB with 4 years to play could be quite helpful as we’ve seen with those at that aforementioned school who benefitted from the experience of a mission.
6’5″ , good arm and can scramble. That would be something to see.
GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
So much for praying for a QB!
Welcome Beau Reilly and Don’Yeh Patterson.
Per the CSU blurb about Mr. Reilly, he was recruited by BYU, Utah, Stanford and San Diego State before signing with CSU. 21-years old and could play 4-years for UH.
It would be great if Tui has signed with UH but I don’t know what schools recruited him as a football player.
Gotta love it more young men that Want to be Warriors!!!
Looking at ESPN Recruiting site, Don’Yeh Patterson got a lot of offers from some big schools!
How did we get him?
What impressed me – and wonder how accurate ESPN is – was an offer from an Ivy School – of course it probably is an academic scholarship!
http://youtu.be/aCs_kSgT_w0
Wow!
First rule of relationships: If you get turned down for the prom, don’t pout in your room while listening to 1970s breakup songs, go ask out someone else.
#9 Kifi, you’re right…Wow!
Reilly’s profile on the CSUN website:
http://www.csurams.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/reilly_beau00.html
He was also recruited by BYU, Utah, Stanford, and SDSU.
Holy cow… Reilly looks really good. Nice arm, accurate on downfield throws, and he’s quick to complete his dropback.
Much quicker feet than Graham, arm appears comparable.
Coming off mission, there’s going to be some rust to knock off, but he’s a 21 year old freshman. He’s going to be much more mature than most the other guys.
Reilly will definitely be in the mix for the starting job. Too bad he can’t get here for spring ball.
From what I got from Max Preps is that QB Beau Reilly was a 2 sport athlete (Football & Volleyball). So he should be a pretty mobile QB for his height and size. He does have a big arm though, how accurate and decision making we will have to see as he grows at Hawaii.
WR Don’Yeh Patterson is a huge get for Hawaii. And most important Mr Patterson said of all the schools that offered him he knew he wanted to play for Hawaii. Got to give it to him, he held out and waited for Hawaii to offer, that speaks volumes to this young mans character and the love he shows for Hawaii.
I’m liking what I’m seeing with Reilly. His drop backs look good, pocket presence, holds the ball high, and quick release. Can’t teach height and looks very nimble outside the box for a tall dude.
A big welcome to Hawaii to Beau and to Don’Yeh.
10-ST-Break up to make up, that’s all we do
First you love me then you hate me
That’s a game for fools
Stylistics
As for Larry not being loyal or that he is selfish–please. First he is 18 years old, and has not yet spent a single day at UH. Second, college athletics is the most self-involved, selfish activity that we have in our educational system. It utlizies young people basically for a “for-profit activity” and does it at the expense of great time and resources. Unlike when I played, scholarships are revocable on an annuall basis, and coaches leave for better positions all the time, as do college presidents.
So, lets give the kid a break. Its rather putative morality to say he is selfish, when we only gleam a small set of facts, and do not have an accurate panoramic of all the issues and items in play. Would have been great if he stayed, but he needs to make the best decisions for himself and his future, a future that is measured in decades, not just the next 4-5 years. In sum, UH and Larry will all just be fine.
It’s interesting that Keyshawn Johnson steered Patterson to UH.
ESPN’s Joe Schad reports that Max Wittek’s choices are Texas, Louisville and Hawaii.
It’s probably in that order. But, hey, at least UH is on the guest list.
My bad, QB Beau Reilly is a 3-sport athlete Football, Basketball and Volleyball.
alright coaches!
you are better than ST in keeping all of us in the “dark” on Reilly; or, did he know but was asked to “zip da lip”?
time will tell if UH got the better end of this “transaction” – losing a promising one, but gaining, perhaps, a better and/or mature football player
ho, ho – fall practice will be very interesting!!!!!!!!!!!!
Patterson has good size and speed.
happy days are here again!
Re: Tuileta
He decided to attend a school that he felt best fit his needs. It’s his life. He has to do what he feels is best for him.
UH was the only school to offer him a football scholarship and it held the spot until Tuileta decided what he wanted to do. Can’t fault UH.
#20:
Coach Wade has chance on getting Reilly to play VB too?
19. Those are Max’s choices… But is Max Texas and Louisville’s choice?? Doubt Texas. Maybe Louisville considering they lose Teddy. Petrino has a good eye for QBs though. Don’t see either schools using a scholarship if they have a QB waiting to go.
A-House:
I interviewed Reilly yesterday afternoon, and I was going to post it after the 6:30 news, but then I forgot, and then I was going to post it after 10:30 news, and then I fell asleep on the couch and … ah, screw it, just run the item this morning. It’s the offseason.
ST:
appears that Reilly and Patterson both wanted to play for Hawaii and their patience paid off – hopefully, big time for us loyal fans
what’s the tie between K Johnson and Patterson? what attracts K Johnson to Hawaii as a good place to play football? will we see future recruits being “steered to Hawaii”? – yikes, what a win-win situation!!!!!!!!!!
By the way, Jeezy knew about the QB situation, but he graciously decided to hold off.
22. Could be a blessing in disguise for 3 parties… Tui gets his USC education and gets to go away for school, Hawaii might end up with the better fit for their offense, and Reilly gets a football scholarship sooner rather than later…
Hopefully Trevor pushing him hard in the weight room… Probably needs to put on 15-20 more pounds to that long frame…
ST:
no need to apologize as we all know that you have been very busy and must be tired with NLI and keeping track of all UH commits
no wonder the house was dark at 3:25 am!
#17- Nicely said!
Jeezy, Al, Shoko and the rest of you were correct that UH needed to bring in QBs.
But they were committed to holding a spot for a guy. Once that guy decided he wanted to go elsewhere, that triggered other movements.
In any scenario, if Wittek wants to come to UH, UH is taking Wittek.
From what I gather, other than UH’s offer, Tui had the same amount of D1 FB offers as me.
I also heard ST mention on the BC show that LT left his UH visit without a UH LOI to sign, so I have no idea what he was writing on at the ceremony. My guess is he was playing the crowd & sticking it to us.
Now that we see who was waiting in the wings, I’m glad things went the way they did.
27. Yeah story broke in afternoonish. Surprised it didn’t hit twitter or blogger didn’t find it…
http://hs.utpreps.com/news_article/show/346486
Re: Tuileta
Just to be clear, he’s a really nice guy. He’s a good quarterback — hey, he’s the state’s Offensive Player of the Year, according to your favorite morning newspaper — and probably the country’s best volleyball player. He was extremely polite, gracious and humble during what probably was a stressful time.
He’s a son of Hawaii. Wish him the best.
the 2014 class looks good
By the way, I didn’t realize Vili’s kid was big. I remember when he was this little kid at volleyball matches. Father Time is accelerating the pace.
For Tui it will be a different educational environment. He may or may not be playing football, but I hope he does get a shot. It may be Volleyball that will be his place to shine at SC.
Whatever, he should make the very most of getting a great education.
I think with regard to football at UH, he would probably have been given a more than adequate shot at being “the guy”. If going to USC was viewed by Tui as a “risk – reward” challenge, I think that’s great. Decisions like this have to be made with eyes wide open as looking back on the road not taken is not a good thing to dwell upon if the risk was not rewarded as one would have liked.
He is on a new path and I for one wish him well.
Now, on to UH football. Great get coaches! Nice to see a new Rainbow Warrior family of terrific young men.
Reilly looks pretty good, very mobile for a 6’5″ QB. Let’s see if that can translate to D1 football. If this kid is good enough to start in Sept. then I hope Chow doesn’t hold him back.
Morning Tsaikos and Tsaikettes!
Looks like a good bunch of recruits overall. Hope they all live up to our expectations.
Since he already signed once, is Beau Reilly able to sign an LOI? If not, hope his commitment is solid.
Go Rainbow Warriors!
Watched the Joe Moore KHON news 6 pm yesterday while at the gym. If I saw correctly, Sports featured Tuileta’s flip as the first signing story. IMHO they should has shown Tui last! Feature the signees who r staying first, second, so on. Tui last. That was stupid of KHON!!
Reilly’s middle name is…brennan
Good morning Tsaikos!
Welcome to all the new signees.
Mr. A-house – #20 – not sure Charlie has seen the kid play vb, but if the fb coaches allow it, I’m sure Charlie would be happy to take a look.
Opening day for Wahine softball. Hope the weather holds out.
GO WAHINE!
GO BOWS!
gobow:
That’s a pretty cool tidbit.
41…….it’s a sign….
39
loi not valid after a year
I agree with Kilikili, no. 40, comments that KHON and Joe Moore should have featured those kids that signed with UH first. Why give Tui the publicity in the first place esp. over the local kids that fulfilled their committment to sign with UH? The local kids that signed with UH should be given every credit and due in their loyalty in signing their LOI with UH esp. their comments in playing for Chow, the school, family and friends.
UH needs to find a place to display all the softball trophies.
It’s getting cluttered in Coolen’s office, and you know how much Coolen hates clutter.
marleysdad
how many offers did you get?
I think the NCAA needs to separate the signing days. I felt badly for the non-football athletes who get overshadowed.
I think each of us got at least one offer: The Army.
I’ve always felt that newspapers should hire car sales people to sell ads, and football teams should hire Army recruiters to recruit. They’re that good at what they do.
After watching Beau’s highlight tape…Tui who?
gobows, sadly, I got none. 🙁
gobows, Thanks
NEW WARRIORS WELCOME!!
Aloha from LA!!
MANEO !!!
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the government response to this is sooo stoopid.
41, 44… Now if UH could find a WR that spent some time juve that needs a second chance.
beau reilly…holy…grail!
i am sure he is out there somewhere running, jumping, lifting, throwing, studying film and the like.
#51 lol!!!!
Interesting tidbit from Chow’s radio interview this morning was that they stopped recruiting a local kid after seeing how the athlete treated their mother. Us outsiders only see the videos or star ratings but never get the whole picture on a recruit. Tough to criticize why or why not UH goes after a guy without the whole picture.
don’yeh patterson…wow!
yup can’t get enough of these big wr’s. transitioning to a 4 wide spread will be easier now with the returning players and the influx from this years class.
adding wittek would be nice.
adding a few big bounceback would be nice, too.
lost in the shuffle…no forget kory rassmussen.
“there are more options.” LT. Maybe Tui is more mature than people give him credit for. His question was what’s best for me not what’s best for UH football fans.
To be able to attend USC at a “deep discount” or possibly for free was too hard to turn down. In the big picture of his life playing football may not having been among his top priorities. Maybe he’s not a dreamy eyed kid who invisions himself playing in the NFL after college. Maybe playing VB in the Olympics is his dream and felt USC gave him a better shot at it.
Only he knows what his priorities and goals are. Can’t fault him for choosing what he feels is best for him.
It is a great accomplishment for a young man to have an opportunity to play somewhere like USC. For those of us truly starved for UH football success it is hard to see an outstanding athlete go elsewhere when he seemed so close to playing for the home team. But if Tui was my son I would be very proud of him and his accomplishments. I’d also be proud that he was willing to challenge himself athletically at a very high level. I say bravo to him and wish him well. I wish he would have stayed home and played for the home team. But it was not to be.
Nice looking class. Thought I would be able to see the Warriors in Seattle next year but forgot they moved the game to 2019. Any word on the linebacker coach?
I have to say the item that I am more concerned is the financial state of affairs of the athletic department. It is obviously both chronic and systemic.
A bit ago, I wrote that most athletic programs our based on a three headed approach: ticket sales; TV contracts, and student fees. Of the three list, the one area that we can effectuate in real time is the student fees. While it may on percentage basis seem high, my counsel would be to raise the student free from $50 to $150. You may think, wow Boola that’s a 300 percent increase, but on a nominal basis that places right in the middle of the pack of similar schools. For example, UNLV-$129, Washington State $179 or Fresno State $210.
At $150 per year, we would not only wipe out the existing debt of 2 million, we would have roughly a 1 million more in the black. Again, the current business model is suspect at best, and many of the ideas are more aspirational, rather than rooted in firm financial and/or market practices. Long story short, a much more detailed and comprehensive strategic plan needs to take place immediately.
59. True. Things are often more complicated than the public thinks. Along with that goes the many reasons why coaches rarely disclose why they made decisions.
The name Beau Reilly sounds like a QB, doesn’t it? And the name Don’Yeh Patterson sounds like a WR. I like them already. Aloha guys!
howzit 808 good morning to all
wishing rainbow wahines softballer a supa beginning to their 2014 season
67… That’s way too much common sense for the BOR to handle. They wouldn’t do it because it wouldn’t be “fair” to the majority of student body. In politics, being fair reigns supreme over doing the right thing.
55, gobows. Why does that guy have an electrical socket on his forehead? And why would they decide to grind or wire-brush it, when the simple solution would be to paint it black?
Coach CHOW may have found a gem in Beau Reilly ! A QB like this comes around only so often, but I digress………We will see what happens, but I am optimistic. Lord knows Chow needs to get his hands on a good QB. Not too mention this guy is coming in more mature and with real world experience to share with his fellow team mates!
I love Donyeh’s hands. He’s got strong hands. He’s has ok speed, probably not breakaway speed at the D1 level, but he looks like a very solid player.
Only thing I couldn’t tell, because of the lack of camera angles, is his route running ability.
I do like his upside.
That QB has a funky throwing motion but he’s mobile and that’s worth a lot with our O-line.
Guud Morning Tsaikos….cloudy but…it’s SOFTBALL DAY!…
Interesting turn of events….lose one but get a better looking prospect ..imho..
done with his mission and now ready to learn the system….hopefully much more matured…
One door closes..another opens…the class is looking GUUD!…IMUA WARRIORS!
IMUA KOA WAHINE!…time to lace up and …. PLAY BALL!
We should all wish Tui the best at USC. He’s an 18 year old that made a decision that he believes is in his best interest. We should all respect that. He owe’s the fans and the State of Hawaii nothing. My question, is what kind of preference, as a walk-on, does he get in gaining admission to USC. My daughter was accepted by USC (non-athlete), but she was a valedictorian with an perfect (math) score on the SAT. Her classmate, with a 3.75 gpa, was not accepted. It would seem unfair to the rest of the non-athlete applicants that a walk-on is given an academic scholarship over more qualified non-athletes. I say this because even given her high SAT scores and 4.3 gpa, my daughter was not offered an academic scholarship.
Post on twitter saying Rice Owls will be the added 13th game this year. Can you confirm ST?
There actually were two recruits who appeared to be disrespectful of family members.
Those are deal-breakers.
Never mind, I see it on the Rice site. October 4th in houston. They return to honolulu in 2015
Leron:
Yep. UH has a home-and-home with Rice. First game is in October in Houston. Second will be here in 2018. Hey, Goode’s BBQ here we come.
Sean Schroeder’s performance in the NFLPA game convinced me that Chow knows how to evaluate and develop QB’s. So i’m not as concerned about the QB situation as others. Depth is lacking, but i think Graham showed considerable improvement right before he injured his shoulder. Graham has the mental part down. He just needs to translate all that to game-time situations. What is more intriguing is the development of Woolsey. He has the arm strength and mobility, but can’t operate the offense quite yet. It’ll be interesting to see things play out after TG graduates and Zwahlen is added to the mix.
I think UH should try to book New Mexico State and Idaho, too.
More games the better.
http://www.riceowls.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020614aaa.html
67. Boola, I agree with you about the student fees. In previous posts, I have mentioned that UW student activities fee is $378/yr ($126/trimester), which does not entitle them to free admission to sporting events. They pay $96/yr for the use of their fitness center, which is about the size of our original UH parking structure. The students may not like it, but this is the trend nationwide, and our tuition is still a relative bargain for residents and out-of-state students alike.
Like everyone here, I wondered: What? Only one O-lineman.
It turns out they’ve got a couple of guys on the d-line they’re going to try out on offense this spring.
It probably would have been better to get another home game here in 2014. But it’s late, and there’s already an FCS team on the sked, so, there weren’t many options.
gobows – #55 – da guy in da pikcha is my cuz. 🙄
boola – #67 – ho, da stink da keeds gonna make wen dere kala gotta go to tuition.
77-Counselor those are all good points. Lets assume he has very solid, but not exceptional scores and grades, so I will just make some-up for the sake of our discussion (again, these are not his scores, nor do I even know where he is ranked in his class)– 3.8 and a SAT of 1980 (combined is 2400). The SAT score places him in the 93rd percentile.
The more crucial question from an admission and moreover, scholarship perspective is what is his socio-economic background and story? Is he the first to attend college in his family? Is his family blue or white collar? Are there vivid hardships he has overcome? How has he articulated his future at USC and beyond?
Depending on the answers to these questions–the institution has more than ample latitude to offer partial or full aid. The school wants to make sure you are qualified, but also they want to take a holistic approach, and consider other elements of your life in making these decisions. From a resource perspective, USC has more than enough to cover the tab……
Like how the coach’s are getting into these “mission” guys. they come back more mature, more focused, and their body’s grown.
#47:
will the new Ching Field complex allow for a “trophy” area for the non-revenue sports?
I, for one, would like to see the tennis championship trophies and diving/swimming or was it water polo or track & field such as Amber Kaufman’s high jump trophy.
Trophy case(s) should be viewable, externally, for all students, parents, fans, etc. to see.
Looks like we got a new GA who retired from CAL last season
http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=45605
boolakanaka #67:
is not UH student fees at $50 per semester?
if so, raising it to $150/year would be a 33% increase or are you saying $150/semester?
prices you quoted for UNLV, etc is semester or annual?
72
yeah black paint was the 1st thing that came to mind…or they could let the weather fade it out over time, which cost zero dollars.
the reasoning they gave for not allowing it is complete bull.
Well, looky here! Surprise, Surprise, Surprise. This Beau Reilly kid (ok, he’s 21) is an a-tha-lete! Obviously, he’s mature. He has great family athletic genes. Brother Trevor will be drafted in the 2014 NFL draft in May. At this height, he’s pretty quick and very nimble on his feet. He reminds me of that loping stride, ala Colin Kaepernick. He might be rusty after being on a church mission for 2 years, but I think he’s a fast learner. I say pencil him in as the early projected starter to start the first game against Washington.
Somehow, I already forgot about Tuileta!! Hehe! Things are looking up!!!!! As Al told me, no worry, beef curry! We have a prospect! Can we say Holy Grail?
#9…kifi…mahalo for the vid…went through half of it and that was enough….can’t wait to see it on the field.
Been away for a couple of years and it’ll take some time to get back to form and like Graham, will need a lot of practice time. Hopefully he’s stronger and can climb that learning curve quickly. If he does…look out Graham…you got some competition!
Darren:
why not USC bloggers on this one?
afterall, we go Merv from Georgia to blog – Hi Merv, hope all is well with you and family!
If Chow will send Beau a copy of the playbook and Beau spends quality time in the gym, he may just as knowledgeable as any UH QB when he comes in during summer.
after all, he has a lot of spare time over the next 5-6 months learning and training.
So with Lambert, Furota and Williams Grey-shirting, the two late additions and rashaan falemalu and Jamie tago coming off grey-shirts. Are we at 22 schollies and have 3 left to give out??
#83 – they should’ve taken that Colorado game.
Wow is right about Reilly. Thanks for the link Kifi. How was this guy still available?
I wonder when Chow knew Reilly was interested in UH?
70
is a freshman going to start in the circle?
Inre…sand volleyball court…can’t build now because of unidentified pipes under ground at site?….something stinks here….how much going cost for new plans/site or just build one or two?….if not building out then cost should be less yeah?…no hold your breath…they’ll find some excuse to suck the money up…this is going to be a good one to watch.
Follow the money peeps!
ahouse…he’ll arrive in may or june. summer session begin as does “unofficial workouts”.
as does or will all incoming recruits and vets.
75
its like he leads with the shoulder, but it works for him, he’s pretty accurate to open receivers all over the field.
96
nearly 7 minutes of highlights, at 5-6 seconds per play, thats a lot of production.
you know in the old days many went to lanai to work the fields because summer jobs were hard to come by.
too bad we can’t run a week or so of training up there with the football team.
wouldn’t hurt to rub noses with the “owner” either.
102
“Through his brother Trevor Reilly, who was a linebacker at Utah, Beau Reilly was introduced to the UH coaches when the Rainbow Warriors were training in Salt Lake City between the Utah State and Navy road games.”
1st week of november would be a good guess.
maybe we should lead a rally to washington place and demand answers from governor neal who “promised” to “return” the aloha stadium to the UHAD.
93-A-house you are correct; I stand corrected. And UNLV is the annual fee. I would then re-submit my amount to be somewhere between 150-200, annually. For a 25 dollar increase, per semester, the deficit is still erased, and we have 500,000 in the black.
the direction of the shoulders determine the path of any properly thrown object including sticks n stones.
totally agree with an increase of student fees.
and for all of us who only paid $116.25 per semester for tuition we should at least donate that amount each year twice a year.
Hopefully we do get Wittek. Reilly is going to need at least a year to get back in Football shape and get used to the speed of the college game. There is no way he is our starting QB this year. So unless we get Wittek, we are looking at Woolsey or Graham
are kifi and i the only ones who took note that chow was able to so shrewdly, trip less than half of the allowed number of 56 with only 22 invitees. that must have shaved nearly $300k off the possible deficit.
Good luck to Tuileta but UH definitely made a substantial upgrade in the QB situation. Tui is good but not Div 1, UH got a huge break when he decommited. Patterson is also a good addition and gives depth. These young players shouldn’t worry about being starters as all good teams need depth and injuries do happen. I hope Graham steps up as Reilly needs a learning year but he is mature which is a plus.
The recruiting insight as to why certain players are not offered by the coaches says a lot about our coaches not compromising on good character. Disrespecting your parents in front of any one is a strong sign of an individual that is self indulged and has not learned to be unselfish and humble.
Reilly does look like a better long term prospect then Tuileta though.
Former Penn St QB, Tyler Ferguson, already declared last month that he is transferring to Louisville. Only thing is he has to sit in 2014. Also I don’t know if Max Wittek wants to play in a spread offense.
“Ferguson is one of two quarterbacks among 12 offensive players signed by Petrino, who likes the spread formation. The Cardinals also landed dual threat Reggie Bonnafon from Trinity High School.”
Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2014/02/05/3071209/state-signings-roundup-louisvilles.html#storylink=cpy
anyone post this ?
$2 million shortfall forecast for sports
The athletics chief cites a 1-11 football season and an inability to raise $1 million
By Ferd Lewis
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Feb 06, 201
University of Hawaii athletic department is staring at the possibility of a $2 million deficit this fiscal year and may have to lay off some part-time and temporary workers, a Board of Regents committee was told Wednesday.
In addition, officials held out the possibility that the student body could be asked to pay a higher athletic fee as early as next year and the cost of individual game football tickets — but not season tickets — could go up. Login for more…
I believe Chow was trying to help the UH Sports program beyond football in saving a scholarship for Tuileta. He knew Tui’s skills were better in volleyball. By sticking with him, he was trying to help Charlie field a better team, and also BJ, since Tui would surely have improved the attendance at the Stanley. Chow’s a true team player.
There was much criticism directed at the coaching staff for not having a backup plan, but obviously now, Chow always had a plan in mind.
How does Oceanic not show Wahine softball on opening night in a tourney that has it’s name on it? I know they are showing high school soccer on ch12, but still. They’re doing the soccer/softball thing on Friday.
86…I’m more worried about our D Line depth then our O Line. Not sure how we can send guys from our D over to the O Line?
Does Keyshawn have a connection to Chow?
more on TT …
Cleveland Browns: The Browns have announced the addition of former Baltimore Ravens running backs coach Wilbert Montgomery, as well as ten additional coaches to the staff (most of which we’ve already touched on). Just to recap; George DeLeone (assistant OL), Richard Hightower (offensive QC), Dowell Loggains (QBs), Mike McDaniel (WRs), Andy Moeller (OL), Tony Tuioti (defensive QC), Anthony Weaver (DL), Chris DiSanto (assistant S&C), Derik Keyes (assistant S&C), Paul Ricci (S&C)
I’ve never heard of a recruit leaving being such a main topic in discussion. Is he that good?
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Great Morning All!
Welcome to all the new Warriors!
Go Texas, cook Rice!
My son who went to UDUB had to pay a rather large athletic fee. Actually, I had to pay it.
It included privileges to use the school gym so I reminded him often to take advantage of it and go there to work out. But the membership cost to 24 hour fitness would have been cheaper if there was a choice.
123
usc
125
yes, in volleyball
Is 6-5 190 current or did he pick up some weight?
Good Afternoon Folks!
Welcome to new Rainbow Warriors, best wishes to Tui!
131…His High School bio said 6-5 175 so maybe that is his current weight. Either way he definitely needs to hit the weight room hard!
I think it was 2010 that the Board of Regents approved the $50/semester activity fee in which half was supposedly going to help reduce athletic debt (10 million) in five years. The other half was supposedly going to support student activities on campus.
No need to repay the athletic debt anymore since it was forgiven.
Anyway, doubling the fee would certainly help the AD financially keep its head above water. I do recall the last time they (BOR) had to get something like this approved, there were dissidents that strongly voiced their disapproval. Obvious their voice fell on deaf ears as it was approved anyway.
Hope the UCSB game is streaming tonight. Lately, Big West or Oceanic have been experiencing problems. At least on my end.
Think 225 pounds is a good weight to reach with Reilly’s frame. Has a nice drop back and decent arm.
Now that I think about? Jeezy was one of the first ones to bring up the need for a JC or a QB that can make an immediate impact. Then he went silent about it lately. Jeezy you sly devil you, you knew about the possible QB transfers and Beau Reilly the whole time and kept it on the down low, so no one would poach Beau Reilly, very smart.
Good morning everyone!
A big “Welcome” to all the recruits!
From my understanding, Keyshawn Johnson wanted to give it one more go. He called Chow, who was with the Titans at the time. Halfway through the tryout, Johnson said he was ready to take the ESPN job.
Beau Reilly could be the second coming of another returned missionary QB at UH, Dan Robinson. Robinson who did his mission in Taiwan, could speak fluent Mandarin.
I f I may add to kifi’s #9 post –
Yowza!
#67, #93, Boo, A-house: just purely from a math standpoint, doesn’t an increase from $50 to $150 add up to a 300% increase? This would be from a semester viewpoint. If we’re talking $100 per year to $150 per year, that would be a 50% increase not 33%?? Math can be confusing at times so just wanted to get the brains stimulated for intelligent people like yourselves. 🙂 Maybe we need the Jason the math teacher to jump in. lol.
I think UH wants to build depth, but not too much depth, if that makes sense. It’s good to have a lot of players at every position. It’s not so good if somebody sits for five years. There’s a balance, I suppose.
Did Keyshawn Johnson play under Norm Chow at USC?
#121 because there’s men’s basketball tonight?
I remember when Glanville was DC, and UH switched to a 3-4. Somehow there were eight or nine nose tackles at one point. It sorted itself out, for the most part, with Regan Mauia and Jason Laumoli becoming running backs. But I felt badly that one of the better NTs — Lawrence Wilson — never got playing time. He actually did very well at, I believe, the Ravens’ training camp.
This year, they’ll have Moses Samia, Marcus Malepeai and Calen Friel at nose. They also could slide Rasmussen there, although the hope is to give him a shot at offensive line.
Eh, we now get one QB who can speak Portuguese.
Keyshawn Johnson:
After playing football for two years at West Los Angeles College,[1] Johnson transferred to University of Southern California, where he played for coach John Robinson’s USC Trojans football team in 1994 and 1995.
Chow was at BYU when Keyshawn Johnson was at USC.
But you know how the networks connect.
Not sure what Chow’s ties are with Rob Johnson, either, but Schroeder worked out under Rob Johnson’s father, Bob Johnson, before joining UH. Bob Johnson runs/ran the Elite 11 Camp for quarterbacks.
Imagine if some of our RS-Fr. O-line have a chance to develop alongside Reilley… the possibilities.
First things first, but it’s nice to see the potential there.
ST: Lawrence Wilson was a member of the 500 lb club (Bench Press) at UH, if memory serves me correctly.
134–I think, unfortunately, much of the population, well at least the student population, has morphed into a mentality that we can produce steak dinners out of potatoes. An increase in student fees in not only warranted, but juxtaposed against similar institutions we are still the most affordable major university in the west.
Moreover, there has to be fiscal synergy between what we can offer, and how those services are paid for, and if that financial dynamic is sustainable. Otherwise, we are merely playing an athletic department ponzi game. My point is, that donors, and especially large donors, from either the corporate world or individuals, are very ambivalent about donating money when we are in a constant flux or teetering of insolvency. Thus, it is incumbent to first create and implement a solid business plan, so as to build confidence with all constituencies, and then solicit their support. To ask their support at this juncture, is a fool’s errand as it cultivates mediaocracy of poorly performing programs.
#125,
The current discussion is nothing compared to the Jeremy Perry drama a decade ago.
Slow news day if a $2 million UHAD shortfall makes the S-A front page.
…but the refused $600,000 13th game last season would have helped the bottom line a bit and gain more sympathy.
I remember my disappointment in QB Graham in his first starts last season too. But I also recall he started his first two games against USC and Oregon State, both not known to be defensive patsies. 😐 I would give him another look.
I didn’t realize USC was so deep at QB. They’ve got Kessler for two more years, and Max Browne and Jalen Greene. They also got a 2015 commit from the nation’s No. 2 pocket passer.
Old School Dave:
Yes, he is/was.
I think Chris Brown and Niko Noga also were 500-pound bench-pressers, too.
Old School Dave:
You are right on it.
I told Reilly that Hawaii has a large Portuguese population. He said he was “excited” to hear that.
142..correct on both counts. I incorrectly cited a 50 dollar student fee, when its 50 per semester. Thus, at 150, it would be a 50% increase.
146…To me Malepeai seems more of a natural fit as a 3-4 Defensive end, then a NT. Samia has not shown he can stay healthy a whole season. Which would leave us very thin at NT which is probably the most important position in the 3-4.
ST,,actually Nike did not get into the big-boy weight class (500lbsplus) until after he left UH, he was in the lower 400s when I was around. Still that is a bunch of lbs to yank when you weigh 230 or so.
137. I didnt know about it the whole time…. The article in the San Diego newspaper came in around the evening of signing day. I thought for sure Kapakahi was going to be all over it too. He’s usually quick..
Me saying we needed QBs and LBs was just kind of stating the obvious. We lose SS and have nothing proven coming back. Woolsey shows promise but he needs competition. Graham is a senior and I think he’s having surgery so you def need someone else…
Then LB of course was 1 position we were weak at this past season and switching over to a
3-4 means you need LBs. Good ones.. Poti makes sense for immediate need. While you develop the FR for when they graduate….And we can assume next year will be a heavy O line and D line class.
SteveM:
The one thing I can’t figure out is that season tickets usually go on sale in late spring, right?
So very early, it is known how many season tickets are sold. If you figure, that walk-ups are not very large nor easy to project, shouldn’t the football-ticket projections be adjusted based on the season-ticket sales? UH runs on a fiscal year, so there’s still time to cut the deficit. Bu, gee, wasn’t this the fourth or fifth time I’ve read about this deficit?
I don’t think Jeezy, Al, Kapakahi, Booka, Former UH Athlete, etc., ever sleep.
It’s interesting that Mack Richards might be UH’s fastest recruit.
Another Matt Harding?
By the way, Mike Washington is in town.
Oops forgot men’s BB on tonight vs UCSB. It’s a big game, literally. Alan Williams is the real deal. Go Bows!
wow the podogees up punchbowl way going be happy now..
lost one (silva) n gain one..sunbody better notify leonard’s…
wonder if leonards going be sponsor now..
my gosh a podogee speaking quarterback..
guess the o-line going have to learn podogee now along with samoan..
IMUA…AVANZAR…GEEF UMM
OOPS….IS LEAHEY PODOGEE via IRELAND ?
UH should raise the AF to at least $100.00 p/s beginning this Fall for all new applicants. Current students should receive a moratorium until Fall 2017.
#149,
Schroeder attended Dana Hills HS……which is located nearby Mission Viejo…..in South OC.
Keyshawn is the WR Coach at Mission Viejo HS under HC Bob Johnson. I believe Keyshawn played at least 1 year with Bob’s son QB Rob Johnson at SC. Bob’s older son Bret played QB at Michigan State before finishing up at UCLA. Bob has been a HS coaching legend in the OC since the 80’s when I lived there.
BTW…..DL Adam Tufono…..son of former UH player Junior Tufono…..plays for Mission Viejo……after transferring from Kaiser HS…..when Junior moved the family back to the OC before the 2012 season.
#161 & #163,
Usually too busy at work…..to even lurk…..but home sick this week……so got plenty time to chime in.
I was never comfortable with the 3-4 Defensive scheme. Over at schools like USC for example, they had a front line defense like Gorin Gorilla, Ronnie Rhinoceros, and Ellie the Elephant. This of course is making fun with names. But you get idea that you would want the really big guys in the trenches. We have some tough guys up front on our team but I don’t think they can cover adequately. These are the same ones we had last season and the opposition had no trouble with their running game. The Opposition offensive lines in the Mountain West keeps getting bigger and bigger. What do you guys out there think?
#109,
UH Lower Campus…..who relies on Upper Campus……don’t want to take on the added responsibility of maintaining the stadium……since got their own problems managing the R&M (Repair & Maintenance) project backlog at UH-Manoa.
Agree w/ 159: That’s why I find it kinda strange to hear people say the future base front is the 3-4. Last year, I saw more 3-5 scheme being used vice a 4 man front. And the results were: a meek pass rush, man coverage on virtually every down, RBs running free as the wind, & opponents virtually scoring at will. Kennedy, Samia, Yap, Malepeai & co. are more suited to the 4 or even front. As far as I can tell, we have no 2-gap NG personnel nor ILBs that can take on uncovered OGs.
I’m sure the new DC will adjust his base & schemes to suit our personnel. That & not being so predictable in coverages and blitzs should improve the defense immensely.
Welcome to the latest recruits…Don’Yeh Patterson and Beau Brennan Reilly.
Beau’s middle name is awesome if for real. Could this be a second coming of a Heisman candidate? Lol…
Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!
South Bay signees…..
http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/20140204/malachi-mageo-signs-with-hawaii-football
http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/20140205/donyeh-patterson-signs-with-hawaii
http://www.dailybreeze.com/sports/20140204/jahlani-tavai-signs-with-hawaii-football
Wow how does this happen? Signed with 3 schools.
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/florida-athlete-d-j-law-signs-three-schools-021440664–ncaaf.html
177… Based off what I can see… looks like East Mississippi CC has the best shot at landing DJ Law. Pretty hilarious….
Anybody else excited for the Sochi Olympics?
Based off this tweet I saw (below), opening ceremonies are going to be fantastic…
pic.twitter.com/cJD56ErBGN
179. Talk about putting a spin on recruiting lol
163… My response is as follows:
“Sleep, those little slices of death — how I loathe them.” — Edgar Allen Poe
“I think insomnia is a sign that a person is interesting.” — Avery Sawyer
so where’s all of you who didn’t believe that we had a list of qb’s?
the program is very fortunate that mr. reilly was still available. imagine we held on to contact with him since november as we were held at bay by a former commitment.
commitment…speaking of which is a bad choice of terminolgy in reference to college football recruiting.
everyone knows that it is a loosely held term in this use.
“promise or personal commitment; a contract, etc.”
so throw out the ” verbal commitment” and call it a “probability” or “an intent to enroll”.
#160 – Niko weighed 265 during spring ball of ’83, remember? I swear he was benching about 500#. I apologize if my memory isn’t up to par and it was only 4 and a half.
Mentioned this before, but there’s also the story of Niko doing a power clean with so much torque the bar snapped.
We’ll see how he does come spring ball, but Clune sure does work hard. He’s always in that conference room. Apparently he has studied cut-ups of every UH play last year.
Mentioned here before, also: Opening scene of Dick Tomey Show. Nike is runnning shirt-less. Nothing on his body is moving. To quote Alvis Satele: Niko was “the freakin’ Hulk.”
What was that old Andy Bumatai joke?
When Bruce Banner gets mad, he turns into Falaniko Noga.
Kifi…you might also be correct. As I recall, I was also hanging out alot with Mike Akiu and Kimo Lopes in the parking structure before doing the 24 -110s on Monday, and lets just say my memory was a little “smokey”. There were a bunch of “he-man” on that squad–Anthony Woodson and John Taylor looked like they were drawn from cartoon muscular characters. However, the biggest hitters when I was there were two skinny guys: Carl Kennybrew and James Elias–these fools use to blow-up grown-men, and both played MLB at about 210 (if there clothes were wet).
ST, When you think about it. In a very special way, the guys was a “freak”. Strong, quick, seemed quite humble in public, but there has not been any like him, with such strong desire on the field of play, matched by unbelievable strength and quickness, since his coming. His brother was no slouch as Al was “freak II” maybe only because he is Niko’s young brother.
We were so lucky to see them play as Rainbows. What a treat!
Of the Nogas, the guy that was most impressive was Al. While Niko and Pete had these serious sullen demeanors, I remember Al coming-in as this wide-eye, happy-go-lucky 195 pound lineman.
Boom—next summer, them man has gained like 50 pounds of just pure muscle mass and has the devil’s intentions. That is a lot of palusami, fa’e, and Grace’s plate lunch…on the other hand, there were also a dearth of comprehensive drug testing back in the day—not saying one thing or the other, but plenty of guys I played with just blew-up in the course of one summer. Who really knows…..
Is part of recruiting to offer a jr a scholarship? Built the hype, rode the glory, then crashed like a hot air balloon. Sad all the way around.
As for sleeping or the lack thereof, I quote and live-by the following:
Never under any circumstances take a sleeping pill and a laxative on the same night.
Dave Barry
#188,
I actually remember thinking OMG when I saw that opening clip.
What an upgrade at QB! That no class Tui from Punahou who stringed Norm Chow along for 2 years and then reneged on his worthless word in exchange for a better taller more mature more highly recruited QB returning from a self sacrificing church mission. Tui did UH a favor by reneging. If Tui comes to me seeking a job in the future I will remember his untrustworthiness and hire someone else..
#162 ST,
Working for a big corporation I am very familiar with submitting budgets. Yes it makes sense to project revenue based on actual season ticket renewals, estimated new season ticket sales and estimated walk up sales based on recent actual activities. HOWEVER, if the projected revenues were based on recent activity, the lower number will not only impact football, but all other UH sports.
If the budget was submitted with $2MM in lower revenue to begin the fiscal year, the AD and President would have to make adjustments before the fiscal year began to control or eliminate expenses. Chow was wise to only trip 22 recruits but he was probably told to do so. The savings of $30,000 to $35,000 is a drop in the bucket. Sport programs would have to be eliminated up front and drastic staff reductions made to meet the reduced revenue.
So although the upcoming fiscal looks bleak, you have to project an increase and hope and pray certain programs like UH basketball exceeds their projections to make up the bogus revenue increase that was forecast. It happens in business all the time. When projections are not met, that’s when the Manager has the opportunity to explain the deficit. That’s when Ben Jay brings up the loss revenue of signage, parkin, etc. comes up. The President and BOR understands this but have to take a tough stand and reprimand the AD, etc.
#171 I get your point. With the 3-4 you get another LB in lieu of a down lineman. With one less guy up front you want your front 3 guys to eat blockers so your LB’s can make plays but they have to eat up space and clog running lanes with one less guy up front. Works well with LB’s who are fast. No doubt those guys have to be tough.
#195. Not so fast. Tuileta committed to UH because he felt it was his best option “at the time”. USC came in later because Sarkisian wasn’t hired until December. While I’m all for honoring one’s committment, we’re talking about a life defining moment. He wrestled with the choice up until the last possible moment. No doubt taking into account his verbal committment to UH and the chance to play at home in front of his family. In the end the choice he made hopefully will be the right one for him even though many was disappointed.
I’m sure if things don’t work out Chow left the door open for him.
200
ST,
Walk-on tryouts next week?
http://warriorbeat.staradvertiserblogs.com/2013/02/16/chasing-the-dream/
198–I’m with you. It is not like young man, I repeat young man, was honoring a commitment to life and country. Lets be clear he was choosing a place to first attend school, prepare for his future, and play some sports on the side. This entire rhetoric about his failure of fidelity is hyperbole and one-sided. Facts and circumstances changed, and accordingly, he made the choice that is best suited for his own aspirations.
We are fine, UH is fine, and he is fine. No reason to disparage what appears otherwise, to be an outstanding young man.
Depending on how everything ends up working out for a certain returning true soph CB, could turn out to help UH with re-establishing recruiting ties with perennial CIF-SS contender Long Beach Poly HS Jackrabbits…..
Hmmm…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UodXdErfxYE
#195. Not to worry Tui has connections with the Punahou mafia locally and La familia USC nationally. Many a capo de industria are grads of those two schools.
Do we have any scholarships left?
kapakahi, seen that yesterday. Hope daddy can steer some talent here.
Very interesting to hear ST on the Animals show discussion the conversation between UH and the Tuileta Ohana. Not so sure the door will be open anytime soon. Guess. UH was so upset they didn’t even given him a LOI to bring to the PIAA signing just in case he changed his mind.
I’m pass the Tuileta incident and have moved on.
206. I count we have 2 left. But 1 is probably going to be reserved for one of the possible QBs ST mentioned that might transfer here during the summer. The other one is probably being reserved for a possible transfer or in case someone like Tigi Hill becomes eligible. It’s good to have 1 in your pocket sometimes.
Scholarships can be tricky sometimes with loopholes. Grey shirts can be maneuvered at times. Hopefully when guys like Kwamane and Dew transfer, we can classify Rashaun and Tago to 2013 class.
anyone at the softball game and able to give some updates.
Wahine basketball beat UC Santa Barbara..63 to 60 and was trailing with 4 minutes in the game.
Wouldn’t mind having that Compton Dominguez pipeline opened up again…they seem to always have some talented DB’s…
212.. Crenshaw too. I am kind of shocked no one recruited Noel Grigsby younger brother Nolan.. Maybe not as good as Noel but he’s still got it
MVB: Let’s Go Bows!!
Won’t go into details but Delta Bites! At airport for last 6 Hours trying to get to LV. Could have driven there faster.
…….on the bright side that probably save me some money. hehe
Top 6, 0-0
Mvb plays csun tomorrow and sat
Now that they’ve replaced the lights at RWSS, there’s some bulbs in the scoreboard that need replacing. 🙄
Re: Will Gregory…..
http://www.presstelegram.com/sports/20140202/bounce-back-players-leave-division-i-schools-for-many-reasons
Bottom 6th akiona hr into tennis courts. UH 2-0, 1 out
What if at the last minute Tuileta decided to come to UH and they didn’t have a scholarship holding for him would he and others be upset? What’s the difference with him decommiting and the school decommiting?
Hampton leaves bases loaded. Uh 2-0. Congrats Wahine!!
#221 – no way that would happen to Tuileta. They would ask another player to grayshirt to get him in.
221…not going to happen. the door is closed on this already.
Mahalo Jm2375 for the softball updates.
Auwe tough loss for our mens basketball team tonight.
MBB………..out coached, out rebounded, out shot, out hustled, out classed. Looks like they can kiss the regular season title & NIT goodbye.
Also out-disciplined.
226. Same old Gib basketball every year… we flop in conference…
But on the bright side, it beats the Nash era.
227. Never going to win consistently when you don’t play defense. Offense nights can be off and on… defense needs to show up every time. We never play D.
B-Ball teams under Gib have lacked that killer instinct or the ability to win when you need to separate yourself from the pack. Tonight’s game is the second opportunity this season to make a statement in a league that they are good enough to win, but failed.
#230. Was at the game it wasn’t so much the D as much as they missed a ton of 3s and mid range jumpers. It didn’t help UCSB hit several buzzer beater 3s down the stretch.
#227. Out shot for sure but don’t agree with much else. It was one of those nights where the open looks weren’t dropping. The turning point was Smith’s ill advised lob from 20 feet out on a 4 v 1 break off a steal….player error not coach’s.
One thing I know is that all you can control is attitude & effort. Guess what rebounding is?
kapakahi, that foot to the olo’s, while I laughed, was bad.
UH needs bigger big men. Our guys are tall, but they are not “big” compared to players like that guy they faced tonight. We will lose inside much of the time due to that bulk disadvantage.
I am japanese, but speak fluent portuguese. If I am not mistaken, Boolakanaka can speak some portuguese as he was in Brazil’s state of Para on the northern part of that nation.
232, I though the decision to give up on pressing & trapping with less 4 minutes to go & down 6 was not a good call, right after a few steals & that lob. Then, around 1:30 & down by 10ish, you need to start stoping the clock. They waited till it was under a minute, the still let them run off 15 seconds before fouling.
Maybe it was just signing day hangover….?
#236. If you watched closely UH tried to trap only when the ball was in bounded to one of the corners. Or when they could the force the dibble down the side line they’d try to trap the dribbler as soon as he crossed half court. UCSB to their credit started to inbound the ball to Williams at the top on the key negating any trapping. UH was prudent to back off whenever this happened. The only counter UH could have done was to bring Fotu upcourt to guard Williams on the inbounds rather than having him guarding the basket.
232. It’s both…. Do the math… If SB makes FTs, we lose by close to 20…. We gave up over 40 points in the 2nd half which is bad. Even worse when SB only made 2 FTs in the final 5 minutes.
When you play good D, which involves rebounding the ball and keeping opposing team off the FT line, you give your team a chance to win even when your offense is struggling. Reason why SDSU is so good. Reason why Irvine will probably win this league.
Hawaii cannot win a game in the 60s.
235—Sim–Eu falar portuegese! What many people do not know is that the largest Japanese population outside of Japan is not LA,SF or NYC…rather it is in Brazil. The Japantown in Sao Paulo is about 650000. They are are called issei, and if you are a Brasilian Japanese person working in Japan, you are called dekasegi.
us japanese know this.
About 5% of Peru’s population are Chinese. (a million plus)The Japanese is Peru are less in number but a lot of them have been in the Peruvian government; one even was President.
Strangely, in the mid 40’s, the largest Chinese population was not in New York. San Francisco, but in Cuba!
Us Pakes know this!