Graunke said he hopes to play against Spartans

Quarterback Tyler Graunke told The Advertiser he hopes to play in the Warriors’ next game — Sept. 27 against San Jose State — after X-rays today did not detect a fracture in his right (throwing) hand.
He injured the area at the root of his right thumb during Saturday’s 45-7 road loss to Oregon State.
X-rays were taken of six sides of the injured area.
His right hand still was swollen, and he could not grip a football or shake hands.
He said if the swelling persists after a few more days, he will undergo an MRI to determine if he suffered any ligament damage. X-rays do not always show ligament damage.
“They don’t think it’s ligament damage by the way they were pressing it,” Graunke said.
Graunke said he hopes to resume practicing next Monday.
“I know I’m going to play against San Jose,” he said, “if I’m still the starter.”

* * *

A feisty Greg McMackin declared he is “not a real happy a camper right now” during today’s news conference.
In particularl, McMackin said there was a breakdown in punt coverage against Oregon State. He said he will make some personnel changes.
He also said he will create competition at placekicker. Dan Kelly has missed three consecutive field-goal attempts. McMackin said Brett Symonds, who was supposed to redshirt, and safety Kenny Estes will receive work there.
McMackin also said the defense needs to play with more emotion, although he praised the efforts of defensive ends David Veikune and John Fonoti, linebackers Solomon Elimimian and Adam Leonard, and the cornerbacks.
He supported offensive Ron Lee’s play-calling, but emphasized his pledge to make the offense more “attack” oriented. He also expects the Warriors to pass more.
If Graunke is out for an extended period, then the Warriors will work with the three backups — Inoke Funaki, Greg Alexander and Brent Rausch. In that scenario, he would not name the starting quarterback until game time. UH next plays Sept. 27 against San Jose State.
McMackin said he is considering closing practices to the public in preparation for the San Jose State game.

* * *
Guess who’s been training on the UH campus? None other than Mighty Mouse.



  1. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 10:26 am

    dammit. injuries sound bad

  2. ryan September 15, 2008 10:29 am

    ST, do you know which is QB is now the starter and who’s the backup with Graunke out?

  3. abdullah fataai September 15, 2008 10:29 am

    SALE on #6 Graunke jerseys coming soon! Put the Funaki jerseys back on the shelves!

  4. bb September 15, 2008 10:29 am

    During these times we need to get behind the team no matter how painful it may be. If we are frustrated I think I can empathize the feelings of the players and coaches. With that said our Vollyball team played a great game this past Saturday. I do want to vent on some non-football aspects though.

    1. I personally am not a season ticket holder, but my company is and thankfully I have been able to attend most of the games. Many of the games this year have been Wahine blowouts but Saturday’s game against Washington was awesome and the fans were going nuts. Well during the game when the rallies were getting long and fans stood up ( I was one of them along with thousands of others) an usher was summoned to my seat and told me that I was blocking the view of others and was cheering too loud. I wasn’t swearing, talking smack, booing or anything. I was doing what most of the other fans were doing! I was doing what the people in front of me were doing. The couple behind (that I’m assumed ratted me out) even said things under their voice that pissed the “f” out of me. My girlfriend settled me down, put on my Stan Sheriff Arena seatbelt and I bet my lip because I was about to go Dennis Green press conference on that couple. Now we are talking about ”fans,” “fair weather fans,” “bandwagon” fans, etc. There has to be a category for this type of fan—those who want you to think that volleyball is a tennis match or watching Tiger putt off the 18th green for the Masters Championship. It’s frustrating that I want to show my support but you have fans in the arena that donate thousands and thousands that think that it is inappropriate to stand and cheer.

    2. The arena seemed pretty packed on Satuday. There were way more people than the other nights that I attended. Why is it when they mention the attendance its “tickets issued” instead of the “amount of tickets scanned at the door?” There was about I think an 2,000 person difference between the two.

    3. I thought it was funny as heck that the mens swim team paraded themselves in the arena in their skimpy speedos. Billy V made mention of it and it was quite amusing. BUT, imagine if instead of the men, it was the women’s swim team or another female team in skimpy 2 piece suits? At that point would it be amusing? Or would it be sexual harassment? Is there a double standard here?

    4. Speaking of double standards how come Kim Willoughby seemingly gets a “pass” on the crime that she committed or allegedly committed? She had to post $50,000 bail and is to be arraigned this week. She got a standing ovation at the arena on Thursday night! Tyler Graunke had some personal issues and its plastered all over all the news stations and both newspapers. No one was assaulted in his case and nobody was put in harms way. Now Kim Willoughby allegedly commits assault and just an article in the Star Bulletin? Barely even a mention otherwise? Is it because she is a woman? Is it because she played for the beloved UH Rainbow Wahine? Or is it because she represented our country on the US Olympic team? Again, a double standard?

    I’m sorry…just had some thoughts in my head. The football opinions I think are obvious. Go Bows.

  5. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 10:30 am

    no one is around. i’m glad this is a bye week. but i don’t know if 2 weeks are enough for these injuries.
    hopefully we can get blaze back to somewhat offset this.

  6. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 10:31 am

    wow bb, how do you type that fast?

  7. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 10:33 am

    I think the order will go like this: Funaki, Alexander, Rausch.
    I think AhSoon is done for the season, although they’re still awaiting an injury report.
    I think Blaze Soares doesn’t come back until Fresno State, although with Blaze, you never can tell.

  8. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 10:36 am

    I would like to join you all on thursday. It depends on how well and how quckly I can finish this re-write I’m working on. I’ll keep ya posted.

  9. bb September 15, 2008 10:37 am

    CC..i was typing it for the older post and the new one came up…perfect timing.

    I apologize though, i don’t mean to be harsh or anything. Just venting.

  10. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 10:38 am


    Would AhSoon be eligible for a medical redshirt if he is pau for the season?

  11. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 10:39 am

    Prayers for both Graunke and AhSoon.

  12. LizKauai [BELIEVER] Asus September 15, 2008 10:39 am

    Hiya ST!
    Welcome back, Mighty Mouse!!!


  13. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 10:41 am

    The way it has been in the past , AhSoon and Graunke would not be eligible for sixth seasons.

  14. bb September 15, 2008 10:43 am

    and what happened to Brent Raush? He went from “official announcement” of being the starter to being gone all together. UA was probably was just about to print up those jerseys and now they figure that they will just stick to #6’s and #11’s. I feel bad for this kid. I can just imagine what must be going through his mind.

  15. bb September 15, 2008 10:45 am

    Wow…good to see Chad Owens, punt returner, arena football stud, now LAVA LINER!

  16. d1島 September 15, 2008 10:48 am

    Do we read anything into your grouping both of them together in your reply to DPK?

    The way it has been in the past , AhSoon and Graunke would not be eligible for sixth seasons.

  17. d1島 September 15, 2008 10:50 am

    Is Chad Owens still “on the mend”? What’s his status in Arena FBall?

  18. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 10:51 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Welcome back ST!! Were you able to hit the malls in Oregon? Gotta love the no sales tax.

    Apologies to the Tsaikos at Ige’ this past Saturday for being MIA.

    Healing prayers for all the wounded Warruirs.

    bb – good observations.

  19. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 10:54 am


  20. ryan September 15, 2008 10:54 am

    ST, how is Rausch at the bottom of the depth charts when he was the starter and never got any real playing time to prove himself? Is he still injured?

  21. FloridaTed September 15, 2008 10:56 am

    Hi, again,

    Well, there’s nothing left but hope with those darn injuries.


    could you give us some insight why Rausch, after being named the starter at one point, has dropped so low on the depth chart?

    I really don’t understand why he’s not given more of a chance. The coaches must have seen something in him. At Florida, he didn’t look any worse than Alex and if anything, faster. He threw an interception, but so did all the others, Alex had two. Is there something more to this than we know?

    I’m beginning to wonder a little how good our coaches are at evaluating QB’s.

    Well, one way or the other, the 27th will let us know what this years Warrior Ohana is made of, from coaches, to players and most of all fans.

  22. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 10:57 am

    d1 – how did #2 son’s team do? did he get any licks in? Thanks for sharing the historic lesson.

  23. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 10:57 am

    you’re not the only one that has to rant about it. (kazz can probably pitch in here too) i understand how you feel about the arena (and aloha stadium). too many fans don’t understand what a homefield/court COLLEGE environment should be like. every other school’s fans know what it should be like. its only here in hawaii where’s its bad to make noise and bad to stand. I was at the Florida game. the ENTIRE stadium stood the ENTIRE game. and its like this everywhere else.
    sad to say, but volleyball games have become a retiree sport to watch. not to generalize all retired fans, but most want to enjoy it in peace and quiet. WHY? if you can’t handle it, stay home and watch it on tv. the cost of tickets, lack of student support over the years, etc, etc has changed the whole environment of the game. if we can only go back to the glory years of open seating when it used to sell out. there’d be lines to get into the games to get the best seats possible. there’d be dozens of screaming girls and fans jumping up and down. alan ‘the rubberman’ hackbarth doing his macarena and the train. it was the place to be. now the lower section has been taken over by the money wielding, oft retired, season ticket holders who’d rather opt out to not go to games and leave the seats open. they’d rather read the paper or book or knit a sweater. i wonder what they do when the games get exciting like it did this past saturday?? what happens when the majority of the fans stand and scream??? do they sit on their hands and tell everyone to shut up and sit down? or do they get that sudden burst of adrenaline and somehow stand up too??? oh no! they’ve become one of the people they hate the most!!!
    i was also told that the band can no longer make noise when the other team is serving. they also can’t play when the other team is being announced. something about aloha spirit or some BS. hello. how many other arenas welcome the opposing team and let them do as they please??? shall we throw out the red carpet and champagne and escort them to their locker room too?
    Only in Hawaii… (unfortunately)
    ok, my spiel is over.

  24. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 10:59 am

    Good morning all…

    Whew…what a weekend. The OSU loss hurt big time and, as koakane said, I think I was too angry/frustrated to post anything until now. KK and I, along with a bunch of Tsaikos at Ige’s did a quick analysis of the game and concluded the obvious, like everyone else did, that the team needs a lot of work but the season is still very viable. The boys need to pick themselves up and get on with it.

    Some of the more obvious things were working on fundamentals like blocking, tackling, and catching. Special teams needs a lot of work. I don’t care how good your defense is, when the opposing team has the ball for close to 2/3 of the game and they are constantly given a short field to work with (i.e. I don’t think OSU had a drive for a TD longer than 49 yards) the D will allow points to be scored.

    The team played “tired” the last 2 1/2 quarters of the game. They need to step it up. Someone needs to take charge of this team and bring back the intensity that was beginning to sparkle in the Florida game. Like I’ve said before, the O and D lines need to take control of that line of scrimmage and play smashmouth with the opponents. The D needs to look at how the Steelers play, guys flying around on every play, attacking that ball, smacking the opponent right in the mouth and making them think twice.

    The coaches calls, at times, were suspect, sometimes predictable.

    All phases of the game need work. This is a rebuilding year of sorts and chemistry between the coaching staff needs to be established soooo….

    However, I still believe. I supported the team through the best of times and the worst of times….I remember sitting at the Michigan game at the end of Von Appen’s tenure and still cheering on the team. We need to support the boys no matter what. Like A-Joe, I was on many a losing team…and altough difficult, we can get through this. We win together, we lose together…that is what a team does.


    Okay, enough of my soapbox for now…thanks…..

  25. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 11:03 am

    Chad still looks solid.

    Mighty Mouse was one of my favorite cartoons back in the hanabata days.

  26. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 11:07 am

    Hawaiianbod…..”Here he comes to save the day…..”

  27. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 11:11 am

    wow james, i thought i wrote a lot, but you followed up with quite a lengthy diatribe yourself.

  28. bb September 15, 2008 11:16 am

    I got a good laugh from this site (taken from another forum)

    I really need to keep my sense of humor after my “please put your seatbelt on” experience at the volleyball game 🙂

  29. KonaGirl September 15, 2008 11:18 am

    bb and chawan_cut – MAHALO!!!!

    I have been saying this for YEARS! PLEASE, can we teach the UH fans how to cheer?!? If you are going to take the time to go, then darn it, participate!

    Thank you so much for saying something too, I thought I was the only one out there!

    As for the double standard, you hit the nail on the head. I was actually wondering that watching beach volleyball in the olympics. I wondered if the girls are wearing bikinis, why aren’t the guys wearing Speedos!!!

    Back to football…great to see you Chad…would love to hear an update on his recovery. His last game was incredible. Tough break.

    As for the team, we can’t forget that last year we had SO many close games that could have easily been losses instead of wins. As ST reminded us, 2005 was not a great year, and we had Colt and Co. So, in my mind, the season starts on 9/27 with SJSU!


  30. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 11:18 am


    Yeah. I was keep it all bottled up inside me….and you know what they say about that…you may go Psycho….mwahahahahahahaahaha

  31. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 11:19 am

    I sent an Email to the Leaheys’ show this morning and I asked how having a “new” coaching staff may be affecting the players. What do you guys think? Is there normally a period of transition when a new coaching regime takes over, during which time the team may not reach its potential?

  32. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 11:22 am

    Mr. Tsai,
    What’s the prognosis for Mighty Mouse? Is he expected to fully recover? Will he be going back to his old team in arena ball and continue setting new standards for excellent play there?

  33. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 11:25 am

    DPK…I was thinking about that too. But, the thing is, many of the coaches (Mack, Lumpkin, Miano, Ron and Cal Lee) were part of JJ’s staff and should already have had a report with the kids. They may do things differently, but that shouldn’t have caused lots of transition problems.

    Personally, I think the pieces are all there for a heck of a season. Someone just needs to put it all together. The players need to have leadership among themselves as well. It doesn’t seem like they have that this year. No one to get in their faces and say “Pick it up” or “You’re doing this incorrectly…do it like this” In years past we had players like that (i.e. Samson Satele) who took it upon themselves to be the leaders on the team and make sure every person was doing what they were supposed to do. There isn’t anyone like that standing out this year. At least in MHO. That’s something we have to ask Pride about. He has excellent insight into this realm.

  34. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 11:25 am

    Wanted to share a few FFFs with the Tsaikos: My 12-year old son, who now resides in Gresham, Oregon, had fun playing football this past weekend.

    He played QB, RB, LB and S; scored 2 touchdowns, rushed for over 100 yards, had 1 sack and made 7 tackles.

    As you can tell, i’m one proud dad. I can relate how Bulla and d1 feel with their sons. The only regret is not being there for him.

    Thank you for allowing me to share my story.

    What better phrase then brother Bulla’s

  35. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 11:26 am

    Hawaiianbod…awesome man.

  36. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc September 15, 2008 11:27 am

    The check for the recycling fees from the Weber State T-Gate for Dole Middle School’s cross-country program headed by Alan Inaba will be dropped off later today.

    Unless someone has another program to suggest that we support, we can continue to donate the fees to this program.

    CHAWAN CUT – your comments about volleyball – and the other arena sports as well – are right on. Have you considered writing Jim Donovan to express your concerns?

    The disparity between the turnstile figures and the tickets sold is easy to figure out – season ticket holders who don’t show up for games and cannot or don’t want to give their tickets away. HINT! HINT! – have two for this Saturday’s Boise State game. If you want them, let me know so I can leave them at the Will Call ticket windown for you. Be sure to include your “real name.” E-mail: swood at hokudotcom.

  37. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 11:27 am

    i heard chad owens on the sportsanimals radio show the other week. he was kinda bummed he got hurt because it was soon after his huge national tv game. he was actually hoping on going to try to get back on the jacksonville jaguars team this summer. he said he’s gonna rehab and show his stuff in the arena league and see if that can catch some nfl eyes.

  38. 3-Prong September 15, 2008 11:29 am

    Warrior Fans,

    Let’s not over react. Offense has been slow to come around and this is putting big time pressure on the defense. Things get out of hand quickly when you do the “3 and outs” and givaways. Find the right combo on O-Line, stick with a QB through thick and thin and we can turn it around. Remember, I would think most true fans would acknowledge that it was likely that we would be 1-2 after week 3. We have SJS at home. This is a must win.

    Go Warriors

  39. Kazz September 15, 2008 11:30 am


    I think ST is just mentioning Graunke because he’s a senior also.

    But… now you got me worrying!!! 😈

  40. al September 15, 2008 11:31 am

    let’s hope that the injuries are not as bad as they seem.

    but, if they are, gosh what a shame for these boys. i can’t imagine what is going through their minds all the frustration of what could have been.

    in this light, that is why the big programs, the elite football programs if you will, they don’t fret so much, they just reload and move on.

    obviously we aren’t quite there yet. but, it for sure is the goal for us to be able to get close to that. but can we get there?

    let’s be realistic at the same time.
    will we ever become an elite program?
    do we have the money to become an elite program?
    why even when we have a little cash we can’t implement a renovation……we can’t even replace the practice turf without a mess.

    we can’t even put up a rail system without beefing.

    this is our team no matter what. i think getting to challenge for the wac championship and a bowl game each year is great stuff. beating an occasional bcs conference team in our house is something i could look forward to each year.

    i have been following this football program for many decades ever since i was a kid and let me say that we have come a long way baby.

    and realistically, i am not sure how much this state of hawaii will afford it any more success than what we have enjoyed in recent times.

    can you foot the bill? will you pay double, triple, for tickets? parking? ppv?

    the crescendo that was reached the last two years should be our realistic goals each year. this may be as good as it gets.

    meanwhile, there will be ups and downs.
    do you bail out on your relationships every time things go awry?
    do you quit every job when there’s disappointment?
    do you orphan your kids when they don’t make the grades, the team, or do you stick it out and encourage them to be better?

    i am there with this team as i have for many years (decades, really) throughout the ups and downs.

    …nuff said

  41. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 11:35 am

    Yah, al, everything you just said…

  42. Kazz September 15, 2008 11:38 am

    Preach Al…. Preach!!!

  43. al September 15, 2008 11:41 am

    parting shot…..

    as fans, whether we are called tsaikos or manoa maniacs there is only one thing that we can do to actually help our team. just one thing that we can actually affect change for the team.

    that one thing is to support them through thick and thin.

  44. midori7 September 15, 2008 11:46 am

    AWESOME post – thanks for putting into words how I feel. gotta support the team no matter what!

    I feel your pain. I got shushed at a baseball game last season.

  45. bb September 15, 2008 11:50 am

    I know I wont do it and I know it is not the right thing to do but I so bad want to post the seats and section of the arena where these “seat belt required” seats are.

  46. expat September 15, 2008 11:56 am

    There were a few things that made me feel better about the game.

    UCLA topped the list. I have lots of UCLA family ties so don’t get me wrong, but the lickin’ that BYU laid on them made me feel better about what happened in Corvallis. Ditto for the USC game.

    Bo Levi Mitchell. Turns out losing him to SMU maybe wasn’t a big deal. Hard to see how JJ is going to get SMU firing on any cylinders this year.

    I can’t wait until the SJSU game.

  47. midori7 September 15, 2008 12:03 pm


    Wow! Talk about blast from the past!

    Almost couldn’t believe what Stretch was telling me! Would have been great to catch up with you at the CC but the Florida trip put a big dent in the finances & time away from work.

    Say hello to your brothers & mom for me!

  48. al September 15, 2008 12:03 pm

    bb….when willoughby was interviewed on thursday i’ll bet that leahey, maclachlin, and others had no idea she was to be arraigned later in the week. i was also caught by surprise with that announcement.

  49. Bulla September 15, 2008 12:04 pm

    preacher al in da house!

  50. Garret September 15, 2008 12:04 pm


    You put that very well in #40. Thank you for saying that. I was going to type something up but you said it much better than I would have. Plus, I’m online now at the Portland airport and only have time to go online because our flight is delayed 45 minutes.

  51. Garret September 15, 2008 12:06 pm

    Funny how this New England Patriot had his wedding filmed by NFL films…and his wife almost didn’t show up because she was $40k up at the roulette table!

    The two young kids getting married were Vince Woolfork, a behemoth defensive lineman out of the University of Miami, and his bride, Bianca.

    I had no sooner finished retelling my only-in-Vegas story Sunday when one of my friends nudged me and pointed to a young woman two seats to my right. She was wearing a jersey with No. 75 on it, with “Wifey” on the back. Hundreds of red and clear Swarovski crystals were stitched into the jersey letters and numbering.

    Well, you guessed the rest of the story: It was Bianca, whose husband went on to become the Patriots’ No. 1 draft pick. She filled me in on the backstory of our first meeting.

    “I almost missed the wedding. I was up $40,000 at roulette at the Hard Rock and didn’t want to leave. If it wasn’t for NFL Films filming it (the wedding), I wouldn’t have left.”

  52. Bulla September 15, 2008 12:07 pm

    is QB Santos in the picture at all?

  53. al September 15, 2008 12:07 pm

    hey thanks guys…..i know we all wear the same colors and that i am just reflecting what my fellow tsaikos are feeling.

    after all “we are tsaikos!”

  54. Blackie (ブラッキ) September 15, 2008 12:09 pm

    I thought Chad Owens tore his ACL. Good to see that he’s working out.

  55. al September 15, 2008 12:11 pm

    good to see mac getting tough out there.

    every team needs a kick in the arse every now and then and it has to come from the head coach. closing practices to the public may not be a popular thing for many of us, but, perhaps that places emphasis on the seriousness in which the coach is taking all this.

    it is timely that this occurs with two weeks to reshape our team.

  56. curveball September 15, 2008 12:12 pm

    Nice to see coach Mac all fired up at the news conference thanks ST…

  57. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:14 pm

    Kenny Estes = placekicker??? Did I read that wrong?

    Very interesting that Coach Mack wants to open up that position considering Dan Kelly’s track record and experience. I expected Dan Kelly to emerge as a leader for this team this season and I know no one is harder on Kelly than Kelly.

  58. Garret September 15, 2008 12:17 pm

    The MWC deserves some praise right now…they went 7-1 on Saturday, going 4-0 vs. Pac-10 teams! Their only loss was SJSU beating horrible SDSU.

    The oft-maligned and disrespected MWC enjoyed perhaps the finest overall foot- ball day in its 10-year history Saturday. The league went 7-1 overall, including four victories over Pac-10 schools. Only San Diego State spoiled things with a loss to San Jose State.

  59. Bulla September 15, 2008 12:20 pm


    cameron higgins Big Sky co-offensive player of the week, 18-23, 333 yds, 5 TD’s, and at one point was 15-16 with a dropped pass

  60. jojo ® September 15, 2008 12:20 pm

    Thanks al for putting my thoughts down for me. Just too many thoughts in my head.

    But I would like to put my attention to the WAC. The WAC needs to be supported, since that is the conference UH is in right now. I know sometimes that the WAC does seem really wacked out, etc, but the fans need to show the BCS that serious football does come out of this crazy conference. As I watched Wisc, Fresno State game, I had to cheer. But I couldn’t bring myself to say Fresno State, so I kept saying, GO WAC!

  61. Blackie (ブラッキ) September 15, 2008 12:21 pm

    The one thing I admire most about Coach Mack is that the buck stops with him. He accepts full responsibility for the team’s performance. He never pins the blame on anyone else.

  62. Garret September 15, 2008 12:23 pm

    It is good that Mack is upset with how things are going and it sounds like he’ll make sure that some changes are made. The only thing that surprised me was Kenny Estes competing at placekicker–I thought that Dan Kelly had the job locked down and know that Symonds was thought of positively for next year and they could use him this year if Kelly is hurt. But I hadn’t realized that Kenny Estes could be a D-IA kicker…

    I would think that closing practices would be good, especially if Tyler is hurt and the team doesn’t want Tomey to know who was getting the reps at QB. UH has 3 very different options if Tyler is hurt and it would be best if Tomey had to prepare for all of them.

  63. bb September 15, 2008 12:24 pm

    if what KW did was committed by a politician, a male athlete, or some other public figure that the news media would be having a field day.

    and how much you wanna bet that if Bobby Curran had the chance to interview her the “tough questions” wouldn’t be asked.

  64. BowsForever September 15, 2008 12:27 pm

    Safety…playing kicker? Wha? Well, competition is competition and hopefully it’ll help. I always wondered why UH only seemed to have only one kicker, punter and long snapper. Maybe we should think about keeping a second unit on standby with a 2-year lag in eligibility (so that a senior unit would be backed up by sophomores or something…though I’m sure that would cause some roster limit problems).

    As for Ron Lee’s playcalling, I’ll wait until after Na Koa/Call the Coach for more answers. I can’t remember the last time June Jones, so early in a game, _ever_ failed to pass at least once in an offensive series. Is that even common in most spread offenses? Also, I wonder if Libre with a high ankle sprain (versus a healthy Pilares or even Rego) should’ve been called upon for three straight rushes even if the run-n-shoot philosophy did somehow call for that kinda strategy.

    One more thought…Mack said he thought his team played “tired” later in the game. From what Solly said after the game it almost seemed like they were playing “deflated.” With all the injuries the team of course needs rest, but they need a morale boost just as much, if not more.

  65. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:31 pm

    I turn to music sometimes to celebrate something or to try to ease whatever bothers me.

    As fans we can worry all we want but that pales in comparison to what the fine young men of our Warrior Football team is thinking amongst themselves.

    They need us MORE than ever and there are NO better people in this world that the people of Hawaii to give them the love that they need NOW!!!

    Going through some old CDs in my car I found one from one of my favorite bands “Sevendust”. Off the album “Home” here is a song called “Reconnect” with a few words changed:

    Here we all are standing here
    (SAVE ME)
    Embrace me
    I try so hard to stay clear (REPAY ME)
    Embrace me

    SAVE (save me)
    SAVE (forgive me)
    SAVE me (embrace me)

    So far the history is past
    You HATE me
    I will not ever make fast (YOU HATE ME)

    You LOVE me
    SAVE (save me)
    SAVE (forgive me)
    SAVE me (confuse me)

    Another game We feel further from ourselves…

    If you could wear my shoes
    Then you’ll see…(I NEED A DAY TO RECREATE)
    How could we feel so removed
    From what could be (I NEED A DAY TO RECONNECT)

    What would happen if this were gone
    Would you be there for how long????

    SAVE (save me)
    SAVE (forgive me)
    SAVE me (confuse me)

    Another day I feel further from myself…
    Another day I feel further from myself…

    If you could wear my shoes
    Then you’ll see…
    How we could feel so removed
    From what could be

    I need a day (I NEED A DAY)
    I need a day (I NEED A DAY)
    I need a day (I NEED A DAY TO RECREATE)

  66. 101DoFollowBlogs September 15, 2008 12:31 pm

    I’ve heard some good things about this blog. Remember to balance the pics with the text tho. cheers!

  67. J-Dog September 15, 2008 12:33 pm

    Opening the competition at PK because Kelly (a 4-year starter) is not getting the job done? That can’t be good.

  68. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:35 pm

    Coach Mack said a long time ago that his philosophy to correct mistakes is:

    First, look at himself.
    Second, to look to the position coaches.
    Third, to sit down with the player himself and to make the change if necessary.

    Provided he is still using that policy we can see by the news that he is at the 3rd and last step.

  69. SteveM September 15, 2008 12:37 pm

    Good afternoon everyone!

    Just checking in from work after reading the blog during lunch. Wishing and hoping the best for Graunke and AhSoon.

    Back to work for now…

  70. ragavibe September 15, 2008 12:41 pm

    CHAD OWENS REPRESENT!!!!!!!!!!!! heal up soon my man so you can make another push towards the NFL. God knows my seahawks need some desperate help @ receivers right about now.
    about time coach mac starts getting a little fire lit. the team has gotta play with much more passion and pride. the second half of the season starts now.

  71. d1島 September 15, 2008 12:43 pm

    Boy, just step out for lunch and WAM!!!
    Seems like Coach Mack is setting a tone for this bye week.
    Nothing is sacred, no one is secure. Those who want it will get it. No time to waste.

    Some have wondered about the Scout team game this week. I wouldn’t be surprised to see that get changed.

    Great thoughts there al. You can borrow my soapbox anytime.

    The only nagging thought I have is that when I hear that he wants to close practices, I am hoping Coach Mack isn’t getting into a “circle the wagons” mentality. My first instinct is that all is good though; maybe just a little time for some of those “private moments” that coaches love to share with select players. 👿

  72. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:44 pm

    We can only assume why this is. I mean yes considering Dan Kelly’s talent and what he did for us last season this does seem drastic and I only assume that this is being done to light a fire under Kelly (i.e. threating to grab Kekoa’s slippah).

    However I have no doubt that Coach Mack believes Dan Kelly IS the best placekicker on the team and the drop off from a true freshmen and inexperienced Brett Symonds is possibly risky. Plus I had no idea Kenny Estes could be a placekicker so this one is weird to me.

    Again, this is all can do as observers and fans. Coach Mack obviously knows first hand the severity of the situation in all phases of our game and he’s doing what he feels is necessary.

    I’d be lying if I said I didn’t think Coach Mack is still trying to feel his way around being a head coach for the first time, but a lot of us met him in person and some people here even know the other coaches on a personal level, so with that being said:


  73. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:46 pm


    The only “circling the wagons”-type action we konna see is on September 27th when San Jose State will realize that the team that played in Corvallis is long gone and what they are going to face will be a very p***ed off Warrior team looking for Spartan blood!!!!

  74. d1島 September 15, 2008 12:48 pm


    Congrats on your keiki’s success this past weekend and thanks for asking about #2 son.

    He got some PT! About 8 snaps. He won’t show up in any stats but got a couple of hurries and he says he feels he did good. Not bad for a guy who just moved over to the “Dark Side.” (sorry Bulla 😀 )

  75. d1島 September 15, 2008 12:51 pm


    Obviously, I hope you’re right!


  76. Calvin from Kona September 15, 2008 12:56 pm


    Preaching to the choir here. I cannot believe how bad our fans are about telling people to sit down and be quiet. I can’t believe an usher came to you. They cannot do anything if you stand up (as long as you don’t get unruly). I am so sick of this crap at our sports venues. We are there to cheer. Many stadiums have fans that never sit down at all. People talk about Hawaii being a BCS type of team, maybe joining the PAC-10… We’ll our teams may be D-I but our fan support in the stadium are D-III. Let the real fans stand up and cheer loudly. This is college football..not pop warner.

    I love it when the “fair weather” fans show up because it actually gets louder than a library in the arena/stadium. Hey, people…spread the word! Next time the people in front of you stand up and cheer loudly. .. dont’ say “sit down.” This is your cue to get off your okole and support your team. Otherwise, please stay home and give up your tickets so those of us who actually want to participate in helping our team can get better seats.
    (stepping off soap box now)

  77. Jon September 15, 2008 12:57 pm

    I like what we’re hearing from Mack. Closing practices could be good, especially if he wants to send a message to his players to bunker down and take care of business. Might be difficult to execute close practices given the field layout up there but I like what he’s thinking.

    SJSU is a key game. We need to go at least 2-1 against San Jose, Nevada and La Tech to get to the Bowl. We beat San Jose and we’re in good position to move into WAC play.

  78. Kazz September 15, 2008 12:59 pm


    Let’s all remember the game in Corvallis and the two weeks after as these are “turn around” moments.

  79. LizKauai (iPhone) September 15, 2008 12:59 pm

    Excited to hear that Kenny Estes will have a chance to use his skills. He was an outstanding HS kicker and soccer player and track star. He brings a lot to the table.
    With the right spirit (I know I sound like a broken record) the team will heal itself and the cream will rise to the top.
    Preseason is pay. Time to go get that WAC championship. One play, one game at a time!

  80. bb September 15, 2008 1:11 pm

    Calvin from Kona: In the ushers defense I could tell she didn’t want to do it and she was put in an awkward situation. You are quite generous with your D3 comparision. At my alma mater the first time I went to a football game we were standing the whole time and that took some adjusting to. If I wasnt with my GF i probably would have said something.

  81. al September 15, 2008 1:12 pm

    tks for the report bulla.

    so where’s da beast report?

    d1…dat’s great news about brent considering that he’s an ex-olineman and that he just got there!

    i remember estes booted a 40 yder if i am not mistaken.

  82. Pride. September 15, 2008 1:24 pm

    Al said: i am there with this team as i have for many years (decades, really) throughout the ups and downs.

    …nuff said

    DECADES. Wow, that sounds like a long, long, time.

  83. Kazz September 15, 2008 1:25 pm


    I had to look for your post to see what Calvin was referring to and I just cannot believe that… Again I don’t know why as this has been a sporadic problem at ANY UH event (maybe not at Rainbow Baseball).

    Over the years I have cut my swearing completely out and of course I can understand how people would take offense to that so I stopped, but nothing and no one is going to stop me from standing and yelling and I don’t care if I am next to the “ICU” unit at a UH game.

    This topic is just stupid and there is nothing much more that any of us can say about this that hasn’t already been said.

    BB and others, carry on and show that pride no matter what!!!!!

  84. Pride. September 15, 2008 1:25 pm

    How are you papa Al?

  85. al September 15, 2008 1:28 pm

    more than one decade is qualifying for “decades” which means two or more.

    go figure.

    i was in hs when mckinley last beat punahou.

  86. al September 15, 2008 1:29 pm

    i am fine pride.
    i have a tasking for you later in the year. it has to do with angels.

  87. expat September 15, 2008 1:41 pm


    McMackin was a head coach for 4 years or so at Oregon Tech. First time head coach of a Div 1 school, but he does have college head coaching experience.

  88. al September 15, 2008 1:41 pm

    haha….jason can be my son and i his papa since i actually have one his age.

    but, pride., that is self flattery and/or stretching it a bit to think that i could be your papa? although, perhaps physiologically it could have been possible. what was your mama’s name again?

  89. Pride. September 15, 2008 1:43 pm

    Tell me where to be, and what time to be there. Nuff said.

  90. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 1:49 pm

    Re: Closed practice.
    It doesn’t have anything to do with the faithful here or SportsHawaii. But apparently somebody was posting play-by-play accounts of practice, including revealing secret plays.

  91. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 1:50 pm

    Re: Kicking.
    Kelly is still the man. But I think they’re trying to “stimulate the action,” as they say in the biz.

  92. Calvin from Kona September 15, 2008 1:51 pm

    All Hawaii, stand together….and cheer for your team darn it!

    Kazz, BB…I got your back!

  93. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 1:53 pm

    bb, Kazz, Cfrom K…et al…

    The fans thing has always bugged me. I mean, A-Joe and I were talking about how fans here always bail when a UH team starts to lose. We also talked about how fans at Big Time Programs like Alabama, Notre Dame, USC, etc. cheer on their teams and show up at games no matter how poorly they are doing. I had many friends go to Notre Dame and have followed ND football since as long as I can remember (just like UH). Even when ND was having many bad years, people filled the stadium. ND could be 0-11 and still have a sell-out crowd for their last game. It is amazing how many people/fans support those programs. If Hawaii were 0-8 right now, the stadium would be mostly empty…sad but true.

    And I know I’ve said this before but I also experienced fans who told me to sit down and be quiet because I was bothering them at the Purdue game when we came from behind to win it. I was screaming my head off and couldn’t believe people would want to be quiet. It’s a football game for goodness sake….sheesh…..

  94. Pride. September 15, 2008 1:55 pm

    No worry about the coaches, the coaches are doing fine.


    1 – Do right.

    2 – Do it 100%.

    When we are able to those two things, then we will be a competitive ball team. A lot of the times when it looks like the coaches don’t know what they are doing, and fans question their playcalling. More likely than not playcalling isn’t the problem, but rather excecution.

  95. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 1:55 pm

    ST…dang. Who would do such a thing?

  96. Da Punchbowl Kid September 15, 2008 2:05 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    September 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    Re: Closed practice.
    It doesn’t have anything to do with the faithful here or SportsHawaii. But apparently somebody was posting play-by-play accounts of practice, including revealing secret plays.


    Who would do such a thing and why? Two words; stupid and pilau!

  97. d1島 September 15, 2008 2:08 pm


    our teams may be D-I but our fan support in the stadium are D-III

    Spoken like one who’s never been to a D3 game. Although smaller in numbers, Division III fans won’t take a back seat to anyone for enthusiasm.

  98. Bulla September 15, 2008 2:11 pm

    papa al,

    that has a calming ring to it…haha,

    the beast is fine, had a good game….had 1 assist, no solos, a few hurries. he played the second half, a lot of passing, not many running plays…..said they were trying to let the ‘old guys’ get some stats, haha.

    all is good, sacramento state this weekend, and there will be one Tsaiko in the stands going Tsaiko….guess who….

    tough game for UH, i almost lost my apetite at Genjis…..i said almost….haha. but we did leave in the 3rd quarter i believe, had to get ready for the Crusader victory at aloha stadium. now THAT… was sweet.

  99. d1島 September 15, 2008 2:11 pm


    I feel your pain. I got shushed at a baseball game last season.

    Weren’t you one of the “shush-ers” at one time?
    I wonder if it was a fellow Tsaiko who did the honors that time?


  100. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 2:13 pm

    Hi jojo!

    How did joje do this weekend?

  101. d1島 September 15, 2008 2:14 pm

    So closed practices doesn’t seem to be a good sign for the return of Princess Leila’s videos. Tsigh…

  102. madeinhawaii September 15, 2008 2:16 pm

    I hope that person posting those secret plays and play by plays wasn’t a so-called Warrior fan? Cause that would be really poor judgement on that person’s part.

    What a frustrating week, eh? Football… and my wife’s computer.. both crashed.

    The good news is… both can be fixed. It just takes patience and time. Been working on the wife’s computer for three days straight everything pointed to anything BUT the RAM. But now that I know… I’ll have things up and running in good time. I’m sure it will take longer than three days for the Warriors, but I believe the coaches will figure it out.

  103. lab rat September 15, 2008 2:21 pm

    Who the hell is giving away secrets????????

    ST do you know what the 3 deep roster at online looks like?

  104. MeiLing September 15, 2008 2:22 pm

    Hope the injured players have better news after getting their MRIs.

  105. jojo ® September 15, 2008 2:39 pm

    Hi Hawaiianbod! Good to see your son is an active and busy football player! joje had only had soccer to play and someone told her that she’s an aggressive player.

  106. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 2:46 pm

    James/d1 – thanks for your nice comments!

  107. al September 15, 2008 2:46 pm

    ummmm. pride. exactly.

    it is easy to point finger.
    those that don’t know point finger.
    at least our coaches aren’t pointing finger.

  108. Kazz September 15, 2008 2:46 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    September 15th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
    Re: Closed practice.
    It doesn’t have anything to do with the faithful here or SportsHawaii. But apparently somebody was posting play-by-play accounts of practice, including revealing secret plays.

    Ah…. I know what you mean now. I saw that being discussed elsewhere and since the post Florida comments on that other message board I have ceased to log in there.

  109. BigWave96744 September 15, 2008 2:48 pm

    Kenny Estes Played RB, DB, Kicker and Punter for 3 years at Waimea HS in Kauai… His long FG in HS was 50 yards.

    He also played Soccer for 4 years and was one of the top 100m and 200m his Jr. and Sr year and his Jr Yr 4 X 100 set the state record..

    I’ve seen Kenny kick FG after practice and he was nailing some 30+ yarders with no problem…

    He’s no Iceman, but he’s also not a stranger to FG’s…

  110. Warrior September 15, 2008 2:50 pm

    Hope Coach Mac can turn it around in time for
    San Jose St. Hope.

  111. ryan September 15, 2008 2:51 pm

    I say close the practices, no point in having them open anyways.

  112. Kazz September 15, 2008 2:53 pm

    RE: Closed Practices

    If Coach Mack decides to make this permanent then I have no shame is saying that I will be disappointed as it really adds the personable element to the fans, BUT I understand that being able to watch UH practice is indeed a privilege and NOT a right.

    It sucks that a few bad apples ruined it for everyone else, hopefully not for players’ families though, but again, it was always a privilege and we all know what happens to privilege once someone messes it up.

    So if they remain close under Coach Mack for seasons to come, then so be it. He is our coach and the man in charge and we must stick by him on this decision no matter what.

    I always like to hear Pride’s take on everything. He is the experienced and calm voice of reason during times of duress.

  113. BigWave96744 September 15, 2008 2:54 pm

    BTW, Happy 23rd Birthday to “THE HOUSE OF PAIN”… Fale Laeli

  114. Hawaiianbod September 15, 2008 2:56 pm

    Thanks jojo!

    Nothing wrong with being aggresive. Tell joje to keep it up. She can be the next Natasha Kai.

    btw, i’m tied with you and jeje for 12th place for CFB Picks. I SUCK!

  115. Kazz September 15, 2008 2:57 pm


    September 15th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
    I say close the practices, no point in having them open anyways.

    I don’t think it benefits the team and for the most part it hasn’t been a problem for the team.

    It was more for the fans I guess as it really made us feel “part” of the team and “more” than fans.

    I always felt comfortable there and it was an awesome way to spend the day off.

    So I guess you could say it was a public relations-thing, but a good thing for the fans.

    Hopefully the players’ families won’t be affected by this though.

  116. Kazz September 15, 2008 2:59 pm



  117. lab rat September 15, 2008 2:59 pm

    Close the practices and shoot the spies.

  118. Long Time UH Fan September 15, 2008 2:59 pm

    The importance of “Field Position”
    UH drives started on :

    1Q- UH 27 yd line : 10 plays 73 yd –Rush TD
    UH 24: 3 plays 4 yds–Punt
    UH 14: 3 plays, -10 yd– Punt
    2Q- UH 47 : 3 plays (-) 1 yd– Punt
    UH 12: 6 plays – 12 yd–Punt
    UH 31: 3 plays- 20 yd- Pass INT
    UH 37: 6 plays -36 yd– Missed FG
    3Q- UH 28: 2 plays- 0 yd– Pass INT
    UH 23: 8 plays- 18 yd- Punt
    UH 35: 2 plays- 0 Yd–Pass INT
    UH 32: 3 plays, (-) 1 yd- Punt
    4Q–UH 15: 5 plays-13 yd- Punt
    UH 19: 6 plays- 24 yd- Turnover ball on Downs

    Average starting drive on UH’s own 21 yd line

  119. Kazz September 15, 2008 3:00 pm


    September 15th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
    Hope Coach Mac can turn it around in time for
    San Jose St. Hope.

    No worries… IT WILL BE TURNED AROUND!!!

    You heard it here first..

  120. Kazz September 15, 2008 3:01 pm

    lab rat:

    September 15th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
    Close the practices and shoot the spies.

    Or can have Robert Kekaula checking credentials at the front gate 😆 …

    Who’s gonna argue with him?

  121. diesel September 15, 2008 3:02 pm

    imho lets put the bowl talk aside and focus on one game at a time. i know its good to set goals and look forward to the future but this team needs to feel a sense of urgency.

    screw the hawaii bowl… screw taking wac champs. right now we just need to rehab and focus in on the next game and beat the living crap outta sjsu.

    our team lacks chemistry. a win over sjsu will set the tone for the rest of our season.

    looking forward to a massacre at NoAloha in 2 weeks. i mean afterall, their local newspaper sports editor called us a 1AA team right?

  122. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 3:03 pm

    Kazz…I never know your name was Keahi….BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  123. al September 15, 2008 3:04 pm

    jojo…..i should introduce joje to my daughter who was the (gulp!) terminator on the soccer field. people used to keep score of how many pancake blocks she would lay per game or how many kicked balls would land in some girls upper body. hmmm. and to think she was a homecoming queen.

  124. ryan September 15, 2008 3:04 pm

    I read the post last week with the “secret” plays. It sure did give away a lot of info.

  125. Long Time UH Fan September 15, 2008 3:10 pm

    As compared with OSU’s
    drives starting on:

    1Q- OSU 45 yd line: 8 pl, 28 yd, Missed FG
    OSU 49 : 9 pl, 27 yd, Missed FG
    HI 31: 3 pl, 31 yd, Rush TD
    HI 25: 5 pl, 25 yd, Pass TD
    2Q- OSU 12: 6 pl, 30 yd–Punt
    OSU 46: 6 pl, 23 yd–Missed FG
    OSU 45: 6 pl, 55 yd–Pass TD
    OSU 27: 4 pl, 24 yd–End of Half
    3Q- HI 28: 7 pl, 28 yd–Rush TD
    OSU 30: 10 pl, 55 yd– Made FG
    OSU 42: 3 pl, 58 yd– Pass TD
    OSU 41: 11 pl, 59yd–Rush TD
    4Q- OSU 18: 6 pl, 27yd–Punt
    HI 43: 7 pl, 29 yd–End of Game

  126. jojo ® September 15, 2008 3:19 pm

    al – did your daughter want to play football too? Maybe she’ll give joje some pointers for more soccer fun!

  127. Dennis Halloran September 15, 2008 3:20 pm

    Gabe Tuatu had another enormous game for Mt SAC last Saturday, over 115 yds. receiving in a big win. I hope we still have him on the recruiting trail!

  128. guiltypleasure September 15, 2008 3:20 pm

    Regarding Estes as place kicker. Estes actually has a strong leg. I’ve personally witness him boot kicks farther than Kelly during kickoffs. The amazing part was that he did it with consistency. Also, the 2nd string kicker is really good. I have no doubt Kelly will get his mental game back on track. Who knows maybe Kelly needs pressure to bring out the best in him.

  129. chawan_cut September 15, 2008 3:23 pm

    no need shoot the spy. just torture him. make him suffer.

  130. al September 15, 2008 3:29 pm

    jojo….the football coach approached her in her junior season to become their kicker. she turned him down. she could have become the first female kicker in hs history. instead it went to her friend tui moe at punahou the following year.

    i think she wanted to play linebacker instead.

  131. ryan September 15, 2008 3:29 pm

    The spies name is bungahead1 and he keeps trying to bring it up on that board. I hope someone deletes it because it’s still there.

  132. bb September 15, 2008 3:29 pm

    there you go. that is why we are having trouble winning games. the mole has screwed us. there is no second guessing now. nothing less than death will be acceptable punishment.

    i think it would be sweet to open up sections in the stadium in the arena in which you could, yell, scream, heckle, and of course swear. and of course put the mole in that section where fans can throw all sorts of stuff at him/her.

  133. al September 15, 2008 3:31 pm

    jojo…..i’ll ask her tomw.

    her coach used to tell her to run through the ball and to kick it through the ball. he forgot to tell her about the opposing player standing in the way.

    true story.

  134. Pride. September 15, 2008 3:32 pm

    Every family has private family issues. No family likes to air out their dirty laundry. It is time for Daddy Mack to be the Big Daddy and lay down the law. It may be embarrassing to some players and even possibly some coaches if the practices were public. Remember these are personal issues that need to be taken care of among private family members. Although Coach Mack has welcomed all of us with open arms, it is time for him to go to work. He can only do that work with just the inner core present. No cameras, and no reporters, and no fans. I realize that this may not be popular, but things need to be done. ‘Okole’s need to be ripped, heads need to roll, intensity needs to increase dramatically, and players need to be challenged. Some it will not be pretty. We as fans need to kindly excuse ourselves and let the coach do his job. Just like small kid time when you know your neighbor going get dirty lickings, you kindsly excuse yourself, go home and be happy that it isn’t you getting the belt tonight. Nuff said.

  135. BowsForever September 15, 2008 3:32 pm

    bb, I wish it were that easy. Though putting an end to excessive disclosure of practices should help a lot.

    All of Aloha Stadium will be the yell/scream/heckle/swearing zone in about two weeks, I’m pretty sure. 🙂 It’s gonna be a wild home game atmosphere.

  136. Kazz September 15, 2008 3:33 pm


    I don’t know about that being deleted on that board… There seems to be people there thirsting for more bad things to happen to the team as they seem get off on that sort of conversation.

    However I was thinking about another poster on that place other than the one you mentioned. The one guy who I think says he’s a former player or something of that nature.

  137. Pride. September 15, 2008 3:34 pm

    Sorry about the spelling and typing.

  138. ryan September 15, 2008 3:35 pm

    Kazz, check out the board and it’s right there. It’s pretty stupid to post that.

  139. Pride. September 15, 2008 3:37 pm

    Long time Fan. You are right, field position is so important. We will always need a solid kicking game.

  140. Kazz September 15, 2008 3:41 pm


    Since the post Florida comments and “vibe” over there I REFUSE to even lurk.

    There are decent posters on that site, but they also have the worst of the worst bandwagoners there who dare to call others who actually contribute their time and money to the program bandwagoners… 🙄

    Whatever… they can wallow in their own filth and call it chicken curry katsu for all they care.

    But yeah, I’ll just take your word for it. Considering the stuff I read there and responded to in the past I am not surprised.

  141. jojo ® September 15, 2008 3:41 pm

    al, you must have been the coach to tell her that! That’s a good one!

  142. al September 15, 2008 3:48 pm

    jojo…..female intuition is strong in your family.

  143. al September 15, 2008 3:49 pm


    whoa, twice today. you on it.

    btw, have you been talking to my mom? that last part resembled me…..

  144. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 3:51 pm

    Pride…so true. The coach needs to do his thing. Let’s let them handle matters in private and take care of necessary business that we don’t need to be privy to. Like you said, some ‘okole needs to be kicked and we all don’t need to witness that.

  145. Kazz September 15, 2008 3:55 pm


    Whatcha talkin’ about????

    We will all be witnesses to watching someone get their okole kicked!


    I can taste blood already… I like it!

  146. Rob25 September 15, 2008 3:58 pm

    Pride – I was just telling my parents at dinner last night that I thought that it was more of an execution problem than play calling. So I agree with you 100%.

  147. Just Saying September 15, 2008 3:59 pm

    How is Tyler supposed to do his homework now?

  148. Just Saying September 15, 2008 4:02 pm

    Are UH practices ever really considered “closed”? There is a nice view from the dorms on the hill.

  149. Kazz September 15, 2008 4:04 pm

    What came first? The chicken or the egg?

    Just asking.

  150. Maverick September 15, 2008 4:17 pm

    Let’s count our blessing that Coach Mack has the helm in these dire straits.

    Man, though were in the dumps right now, But as D1 said earlier, the tradewinds will return soon and so will the Warriors…

    Could be worse, Imagine being an Ariz. St fan and losing to UNLV at home, dropping out completely from # 15….Sizzle

  151. Just Saying September 15, 2008 4:18 pm

    The Balut came first

  152. (Jesse) James September 15, 2008 4:18 pm

    kazz…That is a question that has plagued mankind for years. MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  153. Kazz September 15, 2008 4:20 pm


    OR being “proud to be a Bruin” from the “conference of champions” and getting pistol-whipped by BYU.

  154. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:35 pm

    Good to see my boy Chad Owens again…hope he gets back on the field soon and heal up his knees. No worries buleh, we’ll see in an NFL uniform soon. Same with the other Chad…Kapanui. Both you guys was tearing it up in Arena Football. Good luck my bruddahs hope to see you guys on a football field soon if not in the Valley or Booth Park…be easeh…

  155. Kazz September 15, 2008 4:35 pm

    Oh I can’t believe I forgot… The puppies in red lost to Wisconsin as well… Aw shucks…. 😈

  156. al September 15, 2008 4:39 pm

    but, the balut is the chicken!

  157. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:41 pm

    Thanks to Coach Mack for putting the nice guy role to the side. Our Warrior Boys need some tough love right about now and a swiff kick in the rear to get going! Time to rally the troops, get um focused, stress the importance of teamwork and putting it all on the field each and every play until the final whistle. We all Believe, We all get faith, but let me ask the Warrior Boys this…WHERE YOUR HEART AT?

  158. al September 15, 2008 4:41 pm

    good news regarding tyler’s hand.

  159. BowsForever September 15, 2008 4:43 pm

    ST – thanks for the info about Tyler. He’s “the guy” and if he can get back to 100% (injury-wise) in time for SJSU, that’ll help at least as far as continuity goes. Given your experience covering sports injuries, is it safe to assume that Tyler really doesn’t have any broken bones, or might he need follow-up X-rays or MRIs or whatever? I have no idea what the protocol is for suspected fractures in a QB’s throwing hand.

  160. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:47 pm

    Tyler should be good to go as long as he doesn’t have any significant ligament tears in his hand. Nothing seems to be broken which is a good sign. Good thing he has time to heal up but shouldn’t come back too soon. If he needs to rest to be a 100% do so, no need be tuntadun man.

  161. Just Saying September 15, 2008 4:47 pm

    Auuurighhht. Let’s hope Tyler is good to go for SJSU.

  162. Kazz September 15, 2008 4:48 pm


    Oh thank God… So far so good. If it’s ligament stuff the only thing I can relate is my ring finger on my left hand where my doctor said it was “popped” as my finger was in a bent position at the knuckle closest to the top of the finger (downward towards the palm). It was in splint for two weeks but was actually functional about a week and a half after the injury. I just kept it in the splint as the finger was still not back to normal in terms of positioning and looks. So really it was about two weeks to return to normal. It’s been about four and a half months and it’s looking like normal again.

    My doc told me that that kind of damage will leave visible deformaties, especially in the intricate workings of the fingers, but will become fully functional way sooner than it takes to “look” normal again.

    In Graunke’s case, it is very important that the thumb heals properly, if not for the San Jose State game but for the remainder of the season.

    Now… just gotta keep praying for the best for Keith AhSoon.

  163. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:50 pm

    One guy I need to see back on the field is DA BIG BRUISAH BLAZE “IMPACT” SOARES… I feel like he is the missing piece right now as far as bringing intensity and heart to the field. This is a guy I no need worry about bringing it every single play! Get well soon buleh, see you in Fresno!

  164. Kazz September 15, 2008 4:53 pm

    LWJ and Libre,

    I assume that these two weeks are enough time for these two to heal up for their injuries? From what’s reported these do not seem as worry-some as opposed to AhSoon and Graunke’s respective injuries.

  165. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:54 pm

    The BEAR would be a huge loss to our OLine. As bad as the left side is, without him…WOW…someone need to step up and fill some HUGE shoes. We need Pepa and Kia healthy, but who steps in…Ginlack??? Hmmm…I hate to say it but I worried about da left side of the line. Steiny and Lafu doing a good job so far on the right, Estes is solid, left side is shaky to me.

  166. wafan September 15, 2008 4:56 pm

    LizK . . .

    Nice job on the quilt. When will you complete mine?

  167. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 4:57 pm

    Although LWJ and Libre’s injuries are not as significant, I wonder why Jayson Rego wasn’t used more in the OSU game? I think he has the ability to spell time if needed. Pilares is my man and I dunno if I like him stay at RB or go back to slot. To me I like him just start someplace, cause he is one of our best playmakers. He needs to touch the ball and be on the field. I would actually start him over Bain IMO…if he moved back to slot.

  168. Kazz September 15, 2008 5:01 pm


    I think as a whole the o-line has showed that they are not as much as a “liability” this season as some of us assumed from watching Fall camp.

    I did my share of worrying and despite what some thought, I thought that the o-line did a good job against Florida and bought our QBs a lot of time in the pocket against Oregon State in certain plays.

    Only against Weber State in the beginning did they seem shakey but then again this was the first time AhSoon returned to his old position and this was the first time starting for Ginlack and Ireu.

    We got nailed for a lot of holding calls though and our o-line got called on some frustrating false starts and such so in that sense those things need to be addressed MORE so than their actual play and or technique I think.

  169. al September 15, 2008 5:01 pm

    maybe its time to see if hisatake is ready?
    left guard?

  170. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:02 pm

    Not picking on Brett Symonds but I wonder if the local boys introduced his 145lb frame to the Broke Da Mout Hawaiian Style Plate Lunch? Unreal for a guy to have a strong leg with onleh 145lbs. of force behind it…

  171. Not an Expert September 15, 2008 5:02 pm

    The head coach and offensive and defensive cordinators are new to their positions. Although many years in football it’s a whole different situation being in charge at the D1 Level. Many of the new coaches hired by coach Mack are young and inexperienced and they themselves are going through the learning curve. Game experience and time will make each one better so we may need to be patient. By year 3 and 4 we all will know how good this coaching staff is provided they are here and able to recruit the talent that is needed. As they say you can be a mediocre coach with abundant talent and look like the best coach in the industry. On the other hand you could be a great coach but just don’t have the talent and look like s___t.

    Let’s face it, Hawaii does not get talent like the BCS in droves and if we did a mediocre coach in our league will be undeafed most of the times. Every coach who coached or coaches for Hawaii must make the best with the limited resources.

    For being a BCS team, we must first belong to a BCS conference and for being a succesful BCS team we must have money money money. Don’t count ND who is an indpendent BCS due to their history.

    By the way looking at the statistics on how many teams lose on the road. From my scant research it could be said that 70 to 75% of the teams lose on the road. The last couple of years Hawaii’s win record on the road was unbelievable.

  172. BowsForever September 15, 2008 5:04 pm

    Blaze and Rocky returning will be a big help to the D. I was wondering where Rego was during the game too, though I can understand giving Libre game reps early on. Hope AhSoon’s injuries aren’t too serious.

  173. kama krab September 15, 2008 5:04 pm

    Alojahz Everybody,

    It is great to see the optimism in the room today especially after all the kaka that was said on Saturday. It is great to see the essence of the real Warrior fan coming out in full force. We all need to continue to remember three games don’t make up a season.

    Yes it was tough to watch and hard to swallow, but just now in time things will change for the better.

  174. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:05 pm


    I’m with you on the fact that our Oline has been pretty decent so far, but das with Pepa/Kia and Bear in there. The right side is good but I not to sure about Ginlack and who’s playing LT if Pepa and Kia no can? Where’s Hisatake at? Anyway, I don’t think our Oline is playing all that bad but dat left side has been haunting us so far.

  175. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:10 pm

    Oye thanks BowsForever, shute almost forgot about Rocky too. Das annodah guy I wouldn’t worry about beastin on the oddah team. Feel bad for him as I seen him during spring camp and he was tearing it up and in for a big year in the DLine rotation! Hope to see him on the field soon.

  176. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:12 pm

    Eh wassup with Graunke’s face he look like Rocky Balboa after his fight with Apollo…somebody went lick him or what? Maybe just camera angle, aiyah…

  177. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:14 pm

    Anybody watching the Eagles – Cowboys game…how retarded was DeSean Jackson dropping the ball on a garrans Touch Down play. What a dummeh…

  178. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:15 pm

    5 in a row???

  179. kama krab September 15, 2008 5:17 pm

    It is also great to see that Coach Mac is dropping the hammer on these boys. They need it. It is like a parent disciplining there child. It will build character not for the rest of the season but in life.

    Keep up the good work Coach Mac and staff.

    And to the boys. Continue to believe in each other and keep working hard. Things will turn around.

  180. Kazz September 15, 2008 5:27 pm

    Pauoa Boy,

    ***Knocks on wood***

    If Kia and Letuli cannot resume duties at left tackle and if AhSoon is out for the rest of the year, then the ONLY thing I can assume is Ginlack to the tackle and Ireu at guard.

    This is only my weak assumption.

    Maybe WarriorMojo can care to give us his opinion?

  181. d1島 September 15, 2008 5:29 pm

    WMojo was last seen wandering around Corvallis kicking the ground and mumbling, “Why? Why?” 🙁

  182. d1島 September 15, 2008 5:31 pm

    Not a fan of either the ‘Boys or da Eagles but dis is a pretty mean game

  183. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:32 pm


    Seems like Hisatake is playing Houdini like Rausch, wonder where he stay in the equation?

  184. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 5:33 pm

    d1島 – Eh me neither but I get couple guys on my Fantasy Football team playing haha…

  185. Hoohiki September 15, 2008 5:46 pm

    X-rays never show ligament damage. On physical examination, if there is extensive bruising, swelling and immobility, it is almost always a fracture.

  186. Kazz September 15, 2008 5:54 pm

    Pauoa Boy,

    The reason I didn’t toss Hisatake in there is ONLY because he didn’t make the final cut for the Weber State game when they opted to move AhSoon back to LT and put in a new face in Ginlack at LG.

    At that time a few of us asked, “what about Hisatake at LT and AhSoon at LG”? But alas the coaches made their educated decision and went the other way.

    So.. NOTHING against Hisatake, but I was just going with an assumption considering the chosen line-up in the Weber State game when Letuli and Kia were not options.

  187. Kazz September 15, 2008 5:56 pm

    Speaking of Rausch and Alexander, I saw them on the TV replay both giving their moral support to Graunke and Funaki during the downtime.

    While a small and expected gesture amongst teammates, it’s safe to say that there are NO hard feelings about the starting QB spot and they are fine young men being patient and supporting the greater cause…. TEAM UNITY!!!

  188. Kazz September 15, 2008 5:58 pm


    Hoohiki, Rep Mark Takai asked me at the tailgate if you are a Pearl City resident.

    By your blog handle I assume you are? Forgive me if you already answered this question before.

  189. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 6:00 pm


    No worries wasn’t saying anything against your lineup I just was thinking out loud of what happen to Hisatake. Thought he was in the battle early in camp at LT, then he moved to G, now I dunno where he stay? I would think with his length he would be a better fit at LT than Ginlack would? Anyway, I think we need to recruit more big athletic lineman on both sides of the ball, can never have enough…

  190. Kazz September 15, 2008 6:00 pm


    September 15th, 2008 at 5:29 pm
    WMojo was last seen wandering around Corvallis kicking the ground and mumbling, “Why? Why?”

    D1, I would have lost him amongst the Warrior-faithful then that day. A lot of us at Ige’s were doing the same thing. 🙁

    Whatever, that’s in the past.

    Seems like the vog is clearing up… :mrgreen:

  191. Kazz September 15, 2008 6:03 pm


    Yeah I know exactly what you mean, but I guess things happen along the way and in heavy competition there are always people breathing down your neck looking to take that spot.

    As I said with the QB position long time ago, don’t let my Under Armour Jersey # fool anyone, AINOKEA who it will be, just as long as they are the best man for the job.

  192. Mclovin September 15, 2008 6:16 pm

    I don’t know why Graunke has not yet gotten an MRI. I was in a similar situation during a mountain climb on Mt. Rainier. I injured my wrist. I was scheduled for another climb (Mt Shasta) in two weeks. I saw a sports medicine doctor got an MRI and since there was no severe tissue damage he immediately prescribed me physical therapy with steroids applied trandermally using electrodes. Within two weeks my wrist was back to normal and was able to climb. I’m not a medical expert, but am just putting in my 2-cents based on my own experience.

  193. UHfan808 September 15, 2008 6:41 pm

    The Coach Mack Show playing again on KGMB. Sorry…started at 6:30. Commercial break now.

  194. Kelli September 15, 2008 6:46 pm

    Aigoo, injuries are never good. Hope everybody gets better!

    Ok, that’s it. No more blogging. Back to work.

  195. curveball September 15, 2008 6:50 pm

    I had a similar injury playing know the saying sometimes its better to have a fracture than a sprain..mine was a sprain and it took 6 months and honestly I can push on the base of my thumb and still feel it…. the problem with my root thumb injury was grip.Obviously I threw a curveball and without grip..nothing.. sorry just my experience with the thumb…

  196. bighilofan2 September 15, 2008 6:53 pm

    Coach Mack,

    I love you man. So do what you gotta do, close the practices if you feel thats the right call.

    when I heard you tonite on Coach Mack say that the team was really beat up and tired, and the schedule says you’re planning a scout bowl on Thursday, and you’ve moved the #1 qb to #4 on the qb list, and we’ve changed 4 qbs in 2 weeks, I’m thinking that you’ve got to get control over your qb coach Rolo, and by extension the other coaches too.

    Close the door, search everybody’s pockets for recorders, and go have a knock down drag out scrap so that all the coaches get things off their chests. I BLAME THE COACHES for the players coming out in the second half and going through the motions. It was disheartening watching the Warriors get that kind of beating.

    SUCK IT UP, Coach. Act like you da man!!!! Act like da leader of a great football team! I’m coming over on the 27th to watch my team play like I know you’re all capable of playing. Get the players relaxed and snapping during practice. Speed and intensity, not all the time, but at the right time. C;mon coach, you got some rookie coaches. Train them!

    Finally, don’t let the Warriors believe their own press releases. Make the Ice Man a believer again! Too much about him when it should be about US.

    You should get me down on the field. Hell, I’ll yell at all of you, motivate all of you. For Free! And I’ll throw Sadowski in for free too!

    Go Warriors!!!

  197. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 7:03 pm

    I think the swelling needs to go down some more before an MRI is administered.

  198. Stephen Tsai September 15, 2008 7:04 pm

    I did talk to the Bear tonight. No word yet.

  199. UHfan808 September 15, 2008 7:06 pm

    Good evening Tsaikos & Tsaikettes, Lurkers & Lurkettes!

    Checking in to say hi and read ST’s Warrior news…

  200. Kazz September 15, 2008 7:12 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    September 15th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
    I did talk to the Bear tonight. No word yet.

    I had to read this twice.

    For a sec I thought jetlag was starting to get to you sir! I was like, “he talked to a bear? oh man he must be seeing things…”

  201. bighilofan2 September 15, 2008 7:15 pm


    your #134 is right on! And Not an Expert at #171 is repeating the obvious.

    But I am a believer in the philosophy that prior prior planning prevents poor performance, and I am also a believer in the mantra that Winners never quit, and quitters never win. With luck and hard work, you can coax a 2 star to outshine a 4 star.

    We didn’t play with heart in the second half of last weeks game. Thats a fact. That wasn’t the players’ fault, that was the coaches fault! And thats a fact!
    Motivation is always on the coach! Always!

    Go Warriors.

  202. Jason September 15, 2008 7:31 pm

    Howzit everyone. Here’s today’s Nā Koa luncheon report. In attendance were sj-macro, myki, and me. Wow, it was weird; the place was half empty. But both sj-macro and myki pointed out that many were still on their way home from the West Coast.

    In other news, I bought a Nā Koa lunch card, which costs the total of the remaining lunches minus one, with $5 from each lunch going to Nā Koa. So with 11 lunches left (including today), I paid $150, with $50 of that going to Nā Koa. Even if you don’t purchase a card, $5 of your $15 goes to Nā Koa. Eh, if you’re not working every Monday, or you can get off for a while like me, might as well save $15, get a good lunch every week, listen to Coach Mack explain what’s going on, and contribute some money to UH football.

    Mack didn’t show much film, devoting more time to answering questions. He was definitely an angry man — don’t get me wrong, he took full responsibility for his team’s performance, but he was angry nonetheless. I can definitely see him closing practices and really getting after his players in that caring but tough love attitude he shows. IMO, that would be a good thing, although I would miss attending practices. (As long as it’s not because of idiots posting things that they shouldn’t. In any report I make, from practice or Nā Koa or anything else, I always try to exercise prudence.)

    To those that have been critical of Coach Mack and his staff, or those that have been supportive but offered constructive criticism and questions — Coach Mack has definitely heard you all. He addressed the play calling, saying that the gameplan against Florida was to go conservative, but since then the plan is to open up the playbook and be aggressive. He is confident in the R&S working, and he is confident in Ron Lee as his offensive coordinator. Mack said he has the authority to overrule Lee, but he has chosen not to. But he did mention that they did go to the shovel pass a bit too much, and I’d personally venture to say they used a few other plays a bit much as well.

    As Stephen said, Mack is going to shake up special teams. He is committed a lot of time this week to special teams, and he wants it fixed. He actually thought that UH could have won the special teams battle against Oregon State, but we know what happened once we got on the field. This was a point of emphasis today, and I have no doubt it will be addressed accordingly. I just wish it was emphasized more during the fall camp, but that’s time past already.

    Food: Had poke, teriyaki chicken karaage, and stewed pork with kabocha (real ‘ono).

  203. ROFL September 15, 2008 7:37 pm

    > But apparently somebody was posting play-by-play accounts of practice, including revealing secret plays.

    Oh god. This is way too funny. Internet is SERIOUS business.

    I saw that topic on the forum that is probably being referred to and these so called “secret plays” including the offense thing were obvious JOKES. Any fool can see the postings in those topics were completely sarcastic and made up.

    McMackin is a really nice guy and all but this really takes the cake to say he is closing practice because of a couple of nonsense joke postings. He should just be upfront that he is closing off practice so they can concentrate on the task at hand.

    Furthermore, he needs to quit this “I take responsibility” business since it is getting old, he needs to stop giving praise to the opponent when it was the teams performance which lent a helping hand, he needs to stop looking way ahead to the WAC championship and a bowl game, and just concentrate on each game as they come up.

    By mouthing off unnecessarily including this secret play joke, it just makes him look silly.

  204. Jason September 15, 2008 7:38 pm

    Okay, I gotta hele on out already. Lots to do, very very busy. In the meantime, I am taking suggestions for subtopics for the article for Ka Leo on student fan support that I’m working with Kelli on. So far, I have (1) it’s okay to stand, but be courteous, (2) it’s great to yell, but at the proper time, (3) don’t leave early, and (4) try to attend every game. Any other suggestions? And Kelli, I’ll e-mail it to you later, and you can take the initial concepts and re-write it or something; you know, a professional look. 😀

  205. Garret September 15, 2008 7:38 pm

    Gabe Tuatu had another enormous game for Mt SAC last Saturday, over 115 yds. receiving in a big win. I hope we still have him on the recruiting trail!


    Doris had a report on SportsHawaii on Gabe and apparently he wants to go to UH but none of the UH coaches have had any contact with him.

    Would love to come back to UH, though has not heard from them yet.

    Gabe has always wanted to be a Warrior, he’s never waivered on it. He had several offers after the UH offer and he would just say “no thank you”…didnt even ask for a trip to make a decision.

  206. bonar September 15, 2008 7:40 pm

    Jason: Thanks for the report.

  207. Garret September 15, 2008 7:41 pm

    Good news on Tyler’s X-rays! It isn’t conclusive I guess until the MRI, but at least it wasn’t bad news.

  208. Garret September 15, 2008 7:43 pm


    Thank you for the Na Koa report. That was nice to read after returning back to San Diego…plane was delayed but the kids are in bed and I got Katie from our friend’s house so I can relax now. I would love to be able to attend those lunches and think that the lunch card is a great idea.

  209. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 8:02 pm

    ST – I thought Gabe Tuata was no longer being pursued? I thought he was a Chad Owens type coming out of high school and maybe could help the team… Anyway, wouldn’t mind seeing him back at UH where he supposed to be in the first place.

  210. BowsForever September 15, 2008 8:07 pm

    Tyler’s shirt is a riot (or at least worth a good chuckle) on multiple levels.

  211. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc September 15, 2008 8:10 pm

    I tried to get to the Na Koa luncheon today, but the skies opened up around 10:45 am and within minutes the streets were overflowing. I left around 11 am, but for some reason, my brakes weren’t working very well as I headed towards the Pali so I decided to sit in the car in the Castle Medical Center parking lot until the rain let up which it finally did about 30 minutes later. By the time I got into town it was after 12:30 so I decided to go to the Call The Coach show tomorrow instead.

    If you want to read some serious trash-talk, look at the Comments section at the bottom of the Kim Willoughby story in the Breaking News section. I stopped reading them after the first four or five because they were really disturbing

    PRIDEPERIOD: I understand that you received a similar letter to one I did concerning two season football tickets. Please contact me at swood at hokudotcom.

    BHF2: Need to have your mailing address to send the documents.

  212. BowsForever September 15, 2008 8:15 pm

    Reading the comments section of most HA articles is largely the local version of the Wild Wild West that is the Internet Comment Ballistic Mob. You’ve got lots of, uh, interesting people there. I’ve yet to see an online paper that _benefits_ from commenting systems.

  213. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 8:28 pm

    Jason – Mahalos for the report and like Garret I would love to be there to talk with Coach Mack. It’s obvious Coach sees all the flaws in his team that we all see, so why do people get mad if we point out the same things?

    ROFL – You kidding me right? Any great coach will take full responsibility of his teams actions, it is a sign of leadership. When your players are not doing things correctly it is the coaches fault. Why you may ask? Either the player wasn’t coached or trained properly, or there was lack of supervision to ensure the assignment was received, understood, and executed correctly, thus being the coaches fault. Not ragging on Coach Mack but I know where he is coming from. You’re graded on the success of your players and only as strong as your weakest link. When you have players not doing there part to help the team become successful, it is you who needs to get them up to speed and where they need to be. If you allow them to fail than you have failed your team and yourself. Complacency is another issue which could lead to disastrous results. When you think you’re good enough because of past success and don’t put in the effort to go all out, play your best, and better yourself, you will lose everytime! So for Coach Mack to take responsibility for his team and the way they’ve played I commend him, it shows true leadership. Now it’s time to correct his players, put his foot in there rear, and get this team where it needs to be…playing like the WAC Champs that they are!!! It’s obvious though that you were never in a leadership position and may not understand, but please don’t make yourself look silly!

  214. UHfan808 September 15, 2008 8:29 pm

    That was my first time watching a news show about the game (The Coach Mack Show). Guess I needed time to think about what happened (and didn’t) and try to understand the mechanics of what may be going on with our beloved Warriors.

    The last three games renewed my commitment to being a true Warrior fan.

    Coach Mack,
    I will support the team in bad times and be there to celebrate in good times!
    Despite the many players remaining from last year, fact is that the team’s dynamics have indeed changed.

    This year’s team is entirely different and unique, and cannot be compared to any other team.

    They must come into their own and become *one*.

    They are a talented group.

    But they obviously need more time.

    When there’s any change in personnel within the team — even just a one person change — team dynamics will change and each contributor (player/coach) must expend quality efforts to regroup, rediscover, refocus, reconfirm, and renew their commitments to the team.

    All must figure out / re-figure(!) out where and how they will fit in. *Where* everyone will re-fit or fit in and how well are variables that play an integral part to the success of the team.

    Now is the time when we true die-hard fans must pull together to help the team along by giving them, the team and its coaches, our best supportive efforts.

    …Of course, we must trust that the coaches have chosen the right players…

    …And I’m not saying we can’t have a say when they don’t do well or don’t give it a fair shot…

    One thing we fans can contribute to the success of the team is to provide the enthusiasm that will spur team momentum.

    Be there to cheer the team on!

    And scream DEFENSE like ya mean it!


  215. LizKauai [BELIEVER] Asus September 15, 2008 8:30 pm

    Well, tonight is my last night in Portland for this trip. Quilt is finished (wafan- send me the material and I’ll sew one for you!), granddaughter knows who am, family portraits are shot, got some new work clothes, enjoyed some time away from the routine stresses, and went to a football game and enjoyed some good fuud with my fellow Tsai-kos.

    Mahalo, Ke Akua, for all your gifts and blessings.

  216. BowsForever September 15, 2008 8:35 pm

    ROFL has a point about Mack’s taking responsibility, though. Without results, more and more of the general public won’t be particularly satisfied with mea culpas and promising to do better next time. I’m not saying it’s right, but dissatisfaction could be a trend if the team’s performance doesn’t get better and fast. It’s also not an out-of-left-field expectation for Mack to get the team operating on a high level when he’s getting paid $300,000 more per year than JJ.

  217. Jason September 15, 2008 8:38 pm

    Pauoa Boy: Actually, I think Coach Mack is a little pissed at people who gripe about this and that. Well, at least those that are shooting solid waste out of their mouth. He emphasized that he thinks Hawai‘i fans are the best; still, he has been coaching 40 years, so he knows all these things already that the fans spew out. (Those were two separate things he said at different parts of the Q&A, but I thought they worked well together.) I guess as long as it’s coherent, controlled, intelligent, and constructive, I think Coach Mack might be okay with that. He didn’t say that, but that’s the gist I got from him; he doesn’t have much patience for bad player/coach performance and bad fan performance, too. After all, the players, coaches, and fans are all on the same team.

    BTW, another point I forgot to make. Mack said that if surgery is necessary, Tyler could be out 8 weeks. Obviously that’s very preliminary, as there’s no official diagnosis, but that certainly got my attention.

  218. BowsForever September 15, 2008 8:39 pm

    But I have total faith that Mack will put this bye week to good use. And there’s something about home games that’ll give the Warriors a big lift.

  219. BowsForever September 15, 2008 8:41 pm

    8 weeks would, well, really suck. What kind of surgery might we be talking here? Related to the possible ligament damage?

  220. Garret September 15, 2008 8:45 pm

    Catching up with some reading, I read through the always insightful posts by CoachKen (Ken Taylor, Rick Taylor’s Dad) on SportsHawaii. A couple of things stood out to me.

    CoachKen seems to be quite sure that Ron Lee isn’t being allowed to call the plays he wants. That surprised me, as the only person that could overrule him is Mack and I wouldn’t think that Mack would want to call the plays on offense.

    The play sequence being called on offense is not what Ron Lee would call. He knows this offense as well as June Jones and something is influencing his decision making. One thing that Ron does well is sequence plays. In the run and shoot you don’t run on first and second down and try to make up for it on third….that is an easy tip off for the defense. I know him well enough to know that he is excellent at sequencing plays based on what he sees.

    He also talked about how the coaches and players need to communicate since there is some “under current” going on with the team.

    The next two weeks are incredibly important. We could easily be on the front end of a morale problem if players do not step up right now and do the following:

    1. Don’t point fingers at each other, push each other to be better.
    2. In practice, take your play to the next level now. In two weeks this can be the team it should be.
    3. It is time for team meetings to discuss goals, effort, and to stand up for each other.
    4. Meet with the coaches and say what is on your mind. Small negative events will grow if they are not put on the table. There is an under current starting to build, get it out front and move ahead.

  221. Garret September 15, 2008 8:47 pm


    8 weeks would be a huge loss…I hope that Tyler doesn’t need surgery!

  222. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 8:53 pm


    Regardless we cannot expect instant results and success with the amount of change that has happened to our beloved football team. We’ve been spoiled with great players and great success over these past few years, but it is a new beginning a new era for Warrior Football. I myself had to gut check for a second and not expect miracles to happen right away. You know I’m very passionate about this football team and want to see W’s just like you and everyone else but reality tells me it’ll take some time with all the changes. Still when you say stuff like the general public will be dissatisfied and it could be a trend, that just tells me they are bandwagon Warrior fans. That is what is so sad about Hawaii fans, and why we get picked on by everybody in sports media outside of Hawaii itself. Island people need to understand this is Polynesia’s team, Hawaii’s team, and they play for us and represent all of us, so why not support them regardless! I feel Coach Mack needs to be given time and the chance to prove his worth before people start going all Herman Frazier on him. Same with Coach Malloe and special teams… I’m guilty for calling him out but it was out of frustration and I realized he needs a chance to coach his guys, regroup them, get em focused and playing like they’re supposed to. We all expect instant results, and so do I, but I’ve come to realize Coach Mack just needs time to make things pono!

  223. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 9:08 pm


    Noted, I’m just saying that we as fans see eye to eye as far as what needs fixing. I know Coach Mack will take care of the team and we are not coaches. I’m guilty of making outbursts and pointing out things I see during games and all that but it’s not meant to be bad. Like Coach Mack I am passionate about Warrior Football and want the best for our team and players. I’ve been around football all my life and have also been in a position to lead from the front for a long time. Like my Marines, I want them to be great at what they do and be successful. If I need to push them…I push them hard, if I need to pull back…I pull, either way I’m looking out for there best interest and the interests of the team as a whole and I know Coach Mack will do the same.

  224. BowsForever September 15, 2008 9:10 pm

    I’m hardly expecting perfection from Mack and his team (having to replace so many coaches doesn’t help either), and really, all rookie head coaches will get some level of leeway. I DO expect Warrior-like effort each and every game and no one can argue that at least sometimes during the OSU game, we just did not have it.

    Y’know, I’m fine with “casual” fans who, unlike me, don’t particularly care what Tyler’s shirt says (seriously guys, just click, it’s funny stuff). The true “bandwagon” or “fairweather” fans to me are the ones that turn nasty and show their true colors when times are tough for the Warriors. The people that go away quietly, I have no disrespect for — not everyone is as football crazy as we are on this board. I’m sure a number of the more casual fans were there for the Sugar Bowl, and from what I know the Hawaii contingent, hardcore and casual fans alike, represented themselves very very well in New Orleans.

  225. Jason September 15, 2008 9:12 pm

    Garret, thanks for posting what CoachKen said. I hate to admit it, but I’ve been getting those vibes as well, and I’m not nearly as close to the team as he is.

    Coach Mack did say that he often talks to Rolo and Ron, telling them what he sees as a defensive guy, what would give the defense fits and stuff like that. The way he spoke indicated that Ron is making the playcalls; on the other hand, I’m not exactly sure what’s going on, cause I also get the sense that there’s some type of force acting on the playcalling. IDK if it’s Coach Mack, or Rolo, or something totally different, but it’s got me wondering.

    On one hand, Coach Mack has said that he wants the playcalling to be team-oriented — don’t just throw all the time, for example, cause that puts your defense in a jam. But he also says he wants to be aggressive, and he reiterated today that he trusts three men to run the R&S at its best — Mouse Davis, June Jones, and Ron Lee.

    So it’s very confusing, cause we’re all hearing different things. Is it coach speak that Mack was giving us today? I don’t think so; if it was, then he’s a very good actor as well, cause with all his talk about how much he respects the fans (particularly the die-hards who go to functions like Nā Koa lunches), Mack’s actions also showed his dedication and sincerity. I don’t think that was fake. So what is it, different perspectives on the same issues? Could be.

  226. Garret September 15, 2008 9:13 pm

    It amazes me that this writer for the LA Daily News voted USC just #3 in his ranking.

    Apparently, I did not get the memo Saturday night when it came time to vote in The Associated Press top 25 poll. I was one of only three voters who did not select USC as the nation’s No. 1 team. There were 61 other voters who disagreed with us.

    But everyone else seemed to have a problem with my ballot, which placed Georgia No. 1, Florida No. 2 and USC No. 3. I can see why there is a consensus but does there have to be? USC good. Everyone else bad. Is that the mind-set?

  227. BowsForever September 15, 2008 9:18 pm

    LA Daily News writer: I think it’s USC whomped #5 Ohio State, Georgia has yet to play a tough or at least supposedly tough opponent. Dude, if “consensus” is your reason for ranking USC #3, you’re just being contrarian. 🙂

  228. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 9:19 pm


    Good point, I’m with you on the fact that we expect Warrior effort each and every game and this last game it was obvious the effort wasn’t there for all 4 qtrs. I’m sure that will be corrected very quickly…

    I understand not everyone is football fanatics like us and I wouldn’t expect them to be. That being said though, I know many bandwagon guys, especially some of my own friends. Last year it was like Chee Huu Warriors this and Warriors that and then this year is like, ah Colt dem is gone, they going suck this year I think I going watch USC they good! I shake my head in disgust and have actually lost a few friends because of that. Anyway, I know where you’re coming from…

  229. Garret September 15, 2008 9:20 pm

    Very interesting note from Mack’s press conference today about how two players on special teams will be replaced and that there will be a special teams scrimmage in practice. Those actions should shake up the special teams and is an indication that the coaches did their film review and made their decisions before Mack spoke today about his unhappiness with special teams.

  230. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 9:24 pm

    Well time to pull a Herman Frazier and get Ghost, catch you guys manyanaz, be easy…

  231. Garret September 15, 2008 9:24 pm


    I’m confused too and don’t think that I will ever know the full story…and regular fans like me probably should *not* know the full story as the coaches and players have to be able to keep things private. I will trust in the coaches to fix things and will be happy as long as coaches and players do not point fingers.

    I noted when Tyler was asked about his INT on the first drive in the second half he mentioned that he went through all four of his reads and he kind of left Lane out to dry…I didn’t like that part of his quote.

  232. BowsForever September 15, 2008 9:26 pm

    …hey, is Guyton Galdeira still eligible? Just wondering. I’m only quarter-joking here (he “retired” but technically he would be a senior this year).

  233. Pauoa Boy September 15, 2008 9:27 pm


    I heard that too…kind of putting the blame on Lane hesitating on the route or something like that right? Bad juju for a QB… anyway now I’m pulling a HF for sure…peace out!

  234. ehh brah September 15, 2008 9:33 pm

    Why was Tyler Graunke allowed to slip into as much trouble as he has? He can’t possibly be the first college QB to have problems meeting academic standards.

  235. Jason September 15, 2008 9:39 pm

    Just went through Garret’s quotes archive to see what you guys were talking about. Interesting, although I understand that Lane and Graunke are really good friends.

    A much more interesting quote was from Sol: “I don’t remember losing like this since my freshman year so it really hurts.” I don’t remember which Tsai-ko it was, but someone mentioned that many of the guys that were key to our successes in 2006 and 2007 are gone, and that they had to go through the struggle that was 2005 in order to grow. Sometimes, you need to go through adversity in order to come out better, whether it’s in football or life. Hopefully the players and coaches channel that frustration and grow stronger from it.

  236. Garret September 15, 2008 9:44 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want the off-topic stuff.

    The IEEE has started working on the Gigabit WiFi standard. The prediction is that the standard will be done in 2 years and within 3 years we will have WiFi that runs at a Gigabit! 1000 Megabits per second…I remember when the first WiFi came out and 1 Megabit per second was amazing.

  237. Garret September 15, 2008 9:46 pm

    Florida Atlantic will get $173 mil from Clearwire by leasing its unused spectrum (which all schools could get in the 80s, intended for distance learning). I wonder if UH or one of the public schools on Oahu took the free frequency spectrum when it was offered to all Universities and public schools…they sure could cash in now! $173 mil for 10 years, plus more after that, would be a nice way to fund some stuff for UH!

  238. Garret September 15, 2008 9:46 pm

    It is *really* sad that 87% of professionals bring their PDA into the bedroom and 35% would pick their PDA over their spouse if they had to choose one!

  239. Garret September 15, 2008 9:47 pm

    The Tribune company is blaming Google for the false United Airline’s bankruptcy story that panicked the market.

  240. Garret September 15, 2008 9:47 pm

    This Scottish mailman thought his work was too taxing, so he kept 20,000+ letters in his apartment. He was caught when a neighbor saw him throw away a mail delivery. He didn’t even deliver letters that were addressed to himself!

  241. Garret September 15, 2008 9:48 pm

    Free play links pau.

  242. Kekoa September 15, 2008 9:58 pm

    Aunty Liz!…Aunty Liz!…You must have left your cell near baby Lilu and she pushed the speed dial. I figured it was her when I heard her say “Tsai-Ko.” I was shocked to hear her muffled baby talk sound like you had sewn her nightie to her quilt! Bwhahaha!

    …hurry back, we miss ya!

  243. las vegas September 15, 2008 10:00 pm

    kon ban wa Tsai-kos

  244. BowsForever September 15, 2008 10:05 pm

    chawancut’s news compilation for tonight is up. I like Mack’s extra attitude and edge in the press conference. Right now, it’s good that he stands up for his players and coaches, you’ve gotta be “partisan” in that respect at least in the beginning. What I’m wondering about is where this touch of “defensiveness” is coming from, though. The Hawaii sports media seems to be giving him a fair shake. He called out “good fans” as if there were some “bad fans” making their influence known out there. Aside from the Internet maybe, how is all of that getting directly to him? Am I misreading something here?

  245. SteveM September 15, 2008 10:06 pm

    Hi las vegas — are you receiving your email? Hope everything is OK with you.

  246. Jason September 15, 2008 10:12 pm

    BowsForever: I don’t think you’re misreading anything, I just think the bad stuff is getting to Coach Mack somehow. Maybe he listens to the radio talk shows, maybe people send e-mails, maybe friends call and ask him if he saw this on this blog or that message board. He was very careful today to express to the fans at Nā Koa that they were the die-hards, the ones that he respects. I think his patience is running thin with both the performance of the players/coaches on the field and the critical fans after the game. In short, I think he wants to be able to coach the team, and for the fans to just be supportive.

  247. BowsForever September 15, 2008 10:14 pm

    Ouch. Pilares’ “missed” pass rush coverage around the 4:40 mark of the video (he tried to help contain an edge rusher who was later properly blocked by an O-lineman, which opened the way for the sack) is painful to watch.

  248. BowsForever September 15, 2008 10:18 pm

    Gotcha Jason. He hasn’t been a head coach in a while, and he clearly hasn’t “isolated” himself from outside scrutiny and the emotions of the game to the extent that JJ may have. To Coach Mack, I say open that pressure valve and vent some steam. We’ll be here for you when SJSU comes to town.

  249. BowsForever September 15, 2008 10:22 pm

    OK, for some strange reason I feel compelled to make more specific comment on Tyler’s shirt. It’s from New Orleans and features a certain recent mascot in a, well, different context.

  250. las vegas September 15, 2008 10:25 pm

    no nothing special

  251. Jason September 15, 2008 10:30 pm

    Shh, don’t point it out, it’s a family blog. 😛

  252. BowsForever September 15, 2008 10:33 pm

    Coach Mack quote, more or less, from the press conference: “I heard people talk and I know a lot of guys who’re – a lot of people are jumpin’ off ship. This is when we really need our fans…”

    Ah HA. There it is, Jason! I just needed to watch the KGMB coverage for the answer. The genius of chawancut — the news channels often focus on different areas, in this case different segments of the conference (7:05 of the vid).

  253. las vegas September 15, 2008 10:33 pm

    I see them now
    No problem, already talk to a few bus companies
    Last time was hard getting quality drivers on short notice, this
    time we all set for mini busses and one motorcoach.
    Try to keep cost down.

    As for fuud, still searching, tho lot can happen in restaraunt
    business in one year.
    Maybe back to Makino if price is right, room for 200 or so.

  254. lab rat September 15, 2008 10:36 pm

    I support Mack, the coaches and the team.

    Take care Tyler.

    Go Warriors.

  255. SteveM September 15, 2008 11:07 pm

    las vegas:
    September 15th, 2008 at 10:33 pm
    I see them now
    No problem, already talk to a few bus companies
    Last time was hard getting quality drivers on short notice, this
    time we all set for mini busses and one motorcoach.
    Try to keep cost down.

    As for fuud, still searching, tho lot can happen in restaraunt
    business in one year.
    Maybe back to Makino if price is right, room for 200 or so.

    las vegas — please disregard the email I just sent 2 minutes ago. Thank you for being willing to step up again for the Tsai-kos in Las Vegas for the September 19, 2009 UH-UNLV game.

    For those curious about what this exchange is about:
    We have two types of game travelers…(1) those with set ticket, tailgate and stadium transfers through packages and (2) the independent travelers seeking game tickets and maybe a tailgate. An example of the latter in 2007 can be found at:

    GOOD NEWS: Tsai-ko plans for next year will attempt to cover both types of travelers to the 2009 UNLV game. Preliminary numbers for realistic estimates is now being collected via an online survey. CLICK HERE to see the explanation and take the survey if you plan or hope to attend the 2009 UH-UNLV game.
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    las vegas — 200 would be a good estimate for a Friday night Cattle Call (with karaoke of course)…hint, hint. 🙂

  256. koakane™ September 15, 2008 11:25 pm

    good evening tsaik-ko family

    after reading and listening to the many concerns about da warrior team my take is this, I have no doubt cmac will not give up, the team is battling to their arses off and the coaches are trying to come up with a plan to get the team going. just Iet me add some supportive thinking by useing the below comment as an example.

    Ouch missed pass rush coverage… tried to help contain an edge rusher who was later properly blocked by an O-lineman …. which opened the way for the sack.

    maybe the coaches should rethink what is being taught, how it is being taught and do the players understanding how each assignment is part of the total scheme? is there a coordination of what the oline does on certain blocking assignments along with that of the lone backs. in the incident where TG got blasted I think not. two people going for the outside rusher and the inside was open for a free shot. are we making the blocking assignment to complex thus confusing our players. if so then maybe it needs to be simplified. during the two a days, I noticed the oline never worked with the back on pass protection. they got together in passing drills but running back were always running pass routs. if there was a break down no one stopped to teach who had what assignment. may sound simple but it is a difficult task to do and needs to be run live, done in slow motion an even walked thru. this is what I say by teach, teach, teach. the learning process is critical.

    ah nuff rambling, getting off da stage and back to lurking. I believe da warriors can defend the WAC title and win a place in some bowl preferably the Sheraton Bowl because gotta love dem tgates.

  257. Koauka September 15, 2008 11:30 pm

    don’t try to read anything in as “coach speak.” Put yourself in Coach Mack’s shoes. The bar is set pretty high after a Sugar Bowl apperances. Not to mention he is the highest paid state employee and now in the highest profile till the end of the football season.

    Yep, he is under a ton of pressure to perform.

    It is not about wins and losses. It is about establishing his command and doing what it takes to get his ship right. Once that is in stone, everything else follows. So far, a lot of unexpected things have occured and you deal with them as the season goes on. It’s part of the job.

    Many of us have ideas what’s wrong. I’m quite sure the coaches know too. So be it. Let’s move on.

  258. koakane™ September 15, 2008 11:39 pm

    tsaiko nation do not get me wrong. I only offer constructive suggestions to help with rethinking how to get this ship right if it helps I am glad and if not so be it.

  259. al September 16, 2008 12:13 am

    off the subject….

    tonight’s game was awesome.
    romo did good, owens did good, a rookie “made a**”, but did you see donovan mcnabb? he ain’t slowing down.

  260. UHfan808 September 16, 2008 1:28 am

    Okay okay, sleeping now but woke up and had to post one more thing…yawwwwn…
    I remember some discussion recently about recruits and booing at the games and how it has swayed a recruit to want to play for a team or not.

    Then I remember reading last year about many a recruit that got excited to play for this home team because they believed they and UH could & can make a difference.

    IMHO —
    What we do as fans may affect our ability to seek talented prospective recruits.

    I’ve learned, finding talented recruits is crucial!

    The way we treat our team, players, and coaches now — when times are tough — is going to show prospective recruits why they would or wouldn’t want to play on our team.

    How will we find recruits/coaches when they find out we don’t give anyone a chance to make mistakes and pick themselves up?

    We fans not showing up and/or ridiculing them is a reflection of how we deal with and think of the team concept.

    For our community of children, what are we teaching them about Staying the Course??? Team Building??? Team Work??? Conflict Management??? Support Your Team??? Never Give Up!!! Eye of the Tiger???

    What player would want to commit to a team where the fans constantly diss the team, can’t handle the (ups&) downs, don’t even show up, and don’t understand their part???

    What does a coach say when you’re on his team and you’re not being a team player???

    The football players and coaches are doing their part — although the extent of effectiveness might not be where we would like, the players and coaches haven’t given up and always come out to play every practice and every game.

    Before the season began, we were already seeing Coach Mack doing the right things.

    With the losses coach says give them time, they will work to improve.

    We fans are part of the Warrior team and need to improve too.

    I don’t mean you can’t voice your opinion, tactfully of course.

    Just that we would be better team contributors if we concentrate on doing our part to back our beloved Warrior team.

  261. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 1:34 am

    September 15th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
    …He hasn’t been a head coach in a while, and he clearly hasn’t “isolated” himself from outside scrutiny and the emotions of the game to the extent that JJ may have. To Coach Mack, I say open that pressure valve and vent some steam. We’ll be here for you when SJSU comes to town.

    September 15th, 2008 at 11:25 pm
    … just Iet me add some supportive thinking by using the below comment as an example.

    Ouch missed pass rush coverage… tried to help contain an edge rusher who was later properly blocked by an O-lineman …. which opened the way for the sack.

    maybe the coaches should rethink what is being taught, how it is being taught and do the players understanding how each assignment is part of the total scheme? is there a coordination of what the oline does on certain blocking assignments along with that of the lone backs. in the incident where TG got blasted I think not. two people going for the outside rusher and the inside was open for a free shot. are we making the blocking assignment to complex thus confusing our players. if so then maybe it needs to be simplified. during the two a days, I noticed the oline never worked with the back on pass protection. they got together in passing drills but running back were always running pass routs. if there was a break down no one stopped to teach who had what assignment. may sound simple but it is a difficult task to do and needs to be run live, done in slow motion an even walked thru. this is what I say by teach, teach, teach. the learning process is critical.

    ah nuff rambling…I believe da warriors can defend the WAC title and win a place in some bowl preferably the Sheraton Bowl because gotta love dem tgates.

    Let me add an Amen and a Ditto to deze 2 braddaz.
    I showing up, Coach Mack.

    If you believe in Coach Ron Lee, then let us have no doubt that Coach Ron Lee is calling the offense, period. Somebody gotta call the offense, the QB. Ron, you get the whole season to get the offense together. Now, take control and you go, young man!

    And for the defense, what Koakane said above is so right… at some point the braddaz gotta practice together. 2 guyz yelling at 2 different groups ain’t enuff to bring da 2 groups togedda! and when things no work out, no can make dejected kine.

    I say there is a positive that came out of the OSU beating. We ALL suffered da beating. Not just the coaches. Not just the Warriors. Warrior Nation 2.
    I am ready fo mo, if dats wat it takes fo make us
    bettah! i going keep bloggin, and i going keep yelling. SADOWSKI, get yo junk odda da way!!!
    Help UH Warriors, yu puss!

    Go Warriors!!!

  262. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 1:46 am


    Post Game Review: Oregon State
    1. Offense- D-
    2. Defense- C
    3. Kicking game- D
    4. Emotion- D
    5. Penalties- F
    6. Turnovers- F

    There is something missing from this team right now. It has been evident the last two weeks. A few observations:

    1. The play sequence being called on offense is not what Ron Lee would call… and something is influencing his decision making. One thing that Ron does well is sequence plays. In the run and shoot you don’t run on first and second down and try to make up for it on third….that is an easy tip off for the defense. I know him well enough to know that he is excellent at sequencing plays based on what he sees. He is the right guy!

    2. There is a fire missing on the offense. Someone needs to step up in a positive and motivating way to get these guys fired up and it has to be a player, not a coach. I saw a lot of good but not great “next level” effort.

    3. Defense had to play way to much so I cannot say they did not do enough to help us stay in the game. I did see some let down. Adam Leonard is a strong leader for these guys but it takes more than just Adam.

    Oregon State is an average team. We will play at least four to five teams that are better. The chances for a winning season hinge on taking the talent we have and taking the play to a new level. It is so easy to get caught up in the dazzle of speed and potential…football is about playmakers and we need to look at players who can step in and make a difference. It may be the players we have or it might be new faces.

    The next two weeks are incredibly important. We could easily be on the front end of a morale problem if players do not step up right now and do the following:

    1. Don’t point fingers at each other, push each other to be better.
    2. In practice, take your play to the next level now. In two weeks this can be the team it should be.
    3. It is time for team meetings to discuss goals, effort, and to stand up for each other.
    4. Meet with the coaches and say what is on your mind. Small negative events will grow if they are not put on the table. There is an under current starting to build, get it out front and move ahead.

    I am not ready to throw anyone under the bus nor should any of us. I have seen these kind of starts over the years and they can be reversed but only through intense focus. The bye week could not have come at a better time. On Thursday there will be a scrimmage and it will be a great time to reward kids who perform but have not had the chance to prove themselves. I hope the coaching staff will do just that instead of making decisions on what someone did before they got to Hawaii, but instead on what they are doing now to make this a better team.

    I still believe in this staff, they are knowledgable and all are very capable of doing their jobs. I still believe in these kids and am not giving up based on three games, but it will take a lot of heart, belief and complete devotion to the weeks ahead. There is something missing right now…..bring it back!!!!


    Amen, Coach Ken!!!

  263. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 1:56 am


    i feel like Garrett an Jason, wit all da cuttin an pastin.
    an afta I wen luuk at TG’s shirt, now I going lurk fo chicks. 😆
    lizK, wayah yu stay? yuk yuk 😀

    yu wen carry GiGi piggyback yet? Maybe yu gotta carry her twice. nyuck nyuck

    yu muss be huhu wit sumone ah yu guyz. make fun ah yo muumuu, golfing, eatin habitz? sumbuddy wen put da moves on yu o wat? suck it up GiGi. if Pauoa Boy, Doc, Wreck, me can suck it up, cum back and write afta sumbuddy wen make our blud pressah go off, so can yu! cum write, tell us one ah yo funnyz! 😀 obviously one ah da small peetotz wen irritate yu. get ovah it. 😀 wat is worse, dat o da OSU game? Winners never quit, quitters never win! 😀

  264. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 1:59 am

    you up?

    I was tinkin about Willingham an all his heartaches last year. I sure hope we don’t have go to through that ourselves.

  265. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:06 am

    Rule #1: “In the game of football, you’re never as good as you think you are after a win. You’re also never as bad as you think you are after a loss.”

  266. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:07 am


    howzit my bradda! guud to see da Redskins whip @$$ Sunday, even if Colt neva play, yah? Da team! Its about da team! Could see him dejected a little as he left da field dough. Bradda gotta projeck pashunce in his face!

    which is my way ah saying i like change my mind. i feelin da energy from Coach Ken, and I believe dat da Coaches an playahz gonna turn tings around in a good way. sooo takin my positive yellin, screamin an bannah waving into consideration… hmmm……. 27-24 UH. pretty please change my foamah negative waves! 😀

  267. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:13 am


    howzit big fella!

    az yu know, dis bradda luvs rules. 😀 😆 j/k

    i told Monica yu said howzit. 😀 Hi back to yu.
    See yu at da TG on 9/27. i going consume less ac bevrages so i can stay up wit yu yungunz.

  268. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:17 am

    Look forward to seeing you at the tailgate BigHiloMan.

  269. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:18 am

    Focus on the details.

  270. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:19 am

    Do it right.

    Do it 100%.

  271. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:20 am

    Do it 100% means that you need to give great effort.

  272. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:22 am

    “Care enough about the man next to you to carry out the details of your assignment.”

    Do it right.

  273. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:26 am

    stay watchin da NYSE. listenin to all da b.s. herd about da Fannie Mae an Freddie Mac. I like ask dem coaches in Washington 1 question: wat yo vision ah wat Fred and Fannie going akchally do?
    Right now, not next year, right now.

    same ting wit Warrior Football an da question to Coach Mack is: yu tink Coach Ken get one great idea fo da Thurss scrimmage (

    watcha tink?

  274. Pride. September 16, 2008 2:38 am

    Preparation isn’t only physical but it is also mental. As players you need to study and visualize yourself performing your assignment. You need to review your assignment over and over and over again. You need to mentally review what you do on each play against every situation that you encounter. An offensive lineman needs to visualize each play against all the anticipated fronts, and all the anticipated stunts and blitzes. You can never over review or over prepare. The game is so fast that you barely have enough time to react. Players need to play the game in their head over and over again, before they play the game. Twenty five times is not enough, do it again, then do it again, then do it again. When you play the game, nothing will come as a surprise because you already played the game in your head so many times, that your body just reacts. Club technique, got it, spin technique, got that, arm over got that, rip technique, got that too. Free safety showing in a-gap, got it, outside twist, got it, corner blitz off of the edge, got that too. This is too easy, I played this game last night in my bed, I already anticpated all this and know how to react. Come on, give me something that I don’t know, challenge me, Everything taht you gave me so far is burnt in my muscle memory already. Come on, show me what I missed.

  275. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:39 am

    For the team to get whipped like that, it showed me that big dog was down on himself during the game and everyone else picked up on that.

    You’re a great coach, Mack. The coaches believed in you, chose you to be their leader. Step up! Turn the ship around. We know its gonna take time, things always take time in a turn maneuver.

    Go Coach! We got your back! maybe frustrated, neva had a whippin like that, even at the Sugar Bowl. At least we got a chance to sing at the end of the SB, show our solidarity with the team. Our team at the SB neva just cave in at the end, not like we did at OSU. dat wuz my feelin.

    You can do it, coach!

  276. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:53 am

    I also think the coach needs to choose as our QB the one who will best fit into the organized mayhem mold. I don’t see that being TG with his hand like that, not in 2 weeks. And I don’t see Inoke as that guy when it seems like his guy has to be open when he releases the ball, not projecting the confidence for the receiver to get open at the right moment. that lack of confidence in his receivers’ abilities is whats holding him back, imho.

  277. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 2:55 am

    whew, that was a hard one to get out there. but thats how i feel and i think i articulated that one right, from my point of view.

    okay, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    back in the morning. nitey nite.

  278. wafan September 16, 2008 2:55 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Dang. These early mornings sure are dark.

  279. wafan September 16, 2008 3:04 am

    bhf2 . . .

    Truthfully, the UW is not one of my favorite teams.

    The major difference, though is that their fans keep showing up game after game. Yep, even all last year. And, the years before that, too.

    Remember they have a much larger stadium to fill, too. So if you see they only had 2/3 of their stadium filled that was still 50,000 rabid ‘dawgs. Yes, it is easier for their student fans to get to the game because their stadium is on campus — no bus/car ride to or from the game.

    On the other hand, OSU will not be in session for another 2 weeks and they drew over 45,000. Where the heck did they get all of those fans?

    Someone already pointed out the bandwagoners and fair-weather fans. Every program has them. Hawai’i just seems to more of them.

  280. LasCruces September 16, 2008 3:24 am

    I have to respond to UHFan. As a long time lurker I appreciate your opinion but if you show me one team in any sport, other then syncronized (SP) swimming, that doesn’t get booed when they play bad then I would be surprised. Fans wear their hearts on their sleeves, they wait, no pine for the weekend to come to see their teams play. And when they do play bad or not up to their potential the fans boo. Heck, I am a Arizona Cardinal fan and I boo all the time, except this year for some reason. I is just natural!

    Any good high school football player is gonna look for a school that gives them national exposure. Heck, bottom line, they want the money.
    People came to Hawaii to play for June Jones, and unfortunately, and I hope not, that maybe the future went with him when he left. If you look at it honestly, who wants to play for a team that has a tough time against a double A team?

    But I will keep believing…. Aloha from Las Cruces NM. Home of nothing..

  281. Hawaiianbod September 16, 2008 4:43 am

    Welcome to The Warrior Beat Las Cruces! Thanks for your insights. Please drop by and post more often. Aloha!

    Who said Warrior fans are not passionate about The Home Team?

    For the Late, Late, Late Night Crew (UHFan, BHF2 and Pride) – point well taken. Thank you for your mana’o!

    The Warriors just need to get back to basics (i.e. blocking, catching and tackling).

    The team is lacking confidence. A win will cure that, but they need to heed to the lesson I learned in youth sports – Take one game at a time. Forget playing in a bowl game, forget the WAC Championhip. just concentrate on KICKING SOME SPARTANS ARSE! Everything else will fall in place.

    Get off the ground, pick yourself up, keep your head up and stand proud. A Warrior Never Quits! The Tsaikos believe in you. We support you win or lose.


  282. Maverick September 16, 2008 4:55 am

    Yes Las Cruces –
    Our problems are not as severe as what NMSU has been enduring from the Hal Mumme era. Media seems to provide some lift every preseason with Chase Hollbrooks passing talent, along with the receivers, but without the fan support at the home games, it’s always an uphill battle. Then we they travel on the road, that uphill ride is still going uphill.
    Bill Cosby once said, ” My childhood days were so rough, I walked to school four miles everday uphill , both ways.”
    With NMSU on the warning list that attendance needs to get together soon, or be dropped from the d1 program, that situation is tougher than Hawaii’s. Thanks for the reminder and support.

    Morning gang!

  283. Maverick September 16, 2008 5:01 am

    and further more…..
    At least we were not blanked by OSU. Thank goodness for that 1st series.

    LaTech being shutout by Kansas 0 – 29
    Idaho being shutout by Arizona 0 – 70

    and then there is UCLA…

  284. Maverick September 16, 2008 5:10 am

    Just pointing out that things could be worse.

    Just pulled off my hat trick for today.

    Trades are back!

  285. Loa September 16, 2008 5:31 am

    morning gang!

    this really sucks but coach has to do what he has to do
    i feel sorry for the players’ families if they get locked out too

    Re: Closed practice.
    It doesn’t have anything to do with the faithful here or SportsHawaii. But apparently somebody was posting play-by-play accounts of practice, including revealing secret plays.

    and to the mystery poster, i hope you get the slippah

  286. Garret September 16, 2008 5:45 am

    I’m glad that the Advertiser workers voted in favor of the health play/biweekly pay deal. At least some progress is being made in the negotiations…

    Members of the Hawaii Newspaper and Printing Trades Council, which represents six unions at The Honolulu Advertiser, approved the switch to a new health insurance provider and change to a biweekly pay plan, it was announced last night.

    Wayne Cahill, council spokesman, said members on Sunday voted 83 percent in favor of the changes.

  287. Loa September 16, 2008 5:53 am

    hey Garret – i seen that too, hope this means the negotiations are moving forward to a resolution soon

  288. KonaGirl September 16, 2008 6:15 am

    One more thing to think about when you boo…imagine how you would feel if this was one of our Warriors you had booed.

    This is an exerpt from the article in Sports Illustrated about Vince Young’s thoughts of suicide last week:

    Concerns over Young’s mental state began last Sunday when he was booed heavily after throwing his second interception in the Titans’ 17-10 victory over Jacksonville, and he didn’t look like he wanted to go back into the game for the next possession.

    “He stated, `His mood, his emotions, he wants to quit, and he mentioned suicide several times.’ He went on to state that he left the house with a gun.”

  289. d1島 September 16, 2008 6:21 am

    Great Morning All.

    Yes, the trade winds are back. Feels good.

    It’s a balancing act that Coach Mack has in being responsive to fan reactions. It’s okay to acknowledge some displeasure; let’s the fans know that he is not in a vacuum like the Former Coach seemed to be in sometimes.
    Just glad that this regime is not gonna take suggestions like the Von Crappen bunch did!
    Listening to Coach Mack talk about how the R&S is a throwing offense and will be getting back to that is good.
    How did the play-calling come to be during the last game? I would presume that the HC dictates the game plan and the OC crafts to fit that plan. So moving forward, it sounds unlikely that we’ll see three running plays and out again.
    The coaches will hopefully use the practices this week to build some confidence in the offense thru many physical reps that will then be followed up with those mental reps that Pride. mentioned.

    Does closed practice mean that the media is shut-out as well? Would be great to still get updates from Stephen and others.

    Anyway, hopefully Graunke’s MRI confirms no fracture. Still holding out hope for Ah Soon, too.

  290. Maverick September 16, 2008 6:34 am

    I have the upmost confidence Mack will get this fine tuned. The O-scheme plan, then Ron lee following up with his responsibilities.
    My concern is Graunke is now losing up to a full week of workouts, plus being out of fall camp is showing in his overall performance. Just a reminder of how important those reps are one month before the first game starts, and in between the season games. This is way too much time lost to be 100% ready, with the possibilty of re-stressing his injury if he is expected to operate the run and shoot against San Jose.

    Also, still confused on why the heck they operate out of the shotgun on a 3rd and 1 situation. again, it’s now 3rd and 6 with the shotgun with the handoff. That needs to be put to rest, and the multi shovel passes.

  291. djmitcho September 16, 2008 6:43 am

    Good Morning Tsaikoland! I think I have finally recovered after such a heartbreaking weekend. Will return later with a tsaiko fantasy football update. Esme and out!

  292. MeiLing September 16, 2008 6:44 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka from San Jose!

  293. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 7:35 am


    howzit. you sound like you’re right on the inside wit da play callin.

    who you think stay choosing da guy that best fits the scheme for the offense? Is it Coach Mack or Coach Rolo? I know Rolo is the guy who gets the QBs ready for use in Ron’s attack strategy, but I’m wondering if Rolo is calling the shots on who going be da QB, and then he gets overruled, and that leads to confusion down below. and so on with all the other coaches and players.

    I’m pullin all dis outta da crap shoot, but dats da vibe i getting from nowhere near da action and wit only a half brain. Just giving da guyz sum psychological mumbo jumbo fo tink about, maybe day hit on one great idea so we/day no go tink suicide. 😀

    me, i not going tink suicide unless it involves one hottie. 😆 like Liz Chun. 😀 dat chick is a hottie.
    😆 😆 😆 😛

  294. Bulla September 16, 2008 7:39 am


    i think you should have your own radio show after reading all of your comments last night, i’d listen!

  295. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 7:47 am


    wat yu figah? da coaches see yu coming around wit da camera, luukin at da equipment, yu get da glasses goin, followin dem around… yu tink he tinkin yu 1 supah spy? 😆

    i see you da 27th. take care my friend! howzit to Myki1 too.

    yu might like come sit wit me. i going get right in da playahz and coaches faces, i sit right dayah by da tunnel.

    btw, dat shot Tuata frum Kealakehe HS. Tuoti on him oh wat? There’s difference between Mt SAC an D1, but Heart and da It factah makes him a winnah!

  296. Kelli September 16, 2008 7:52 am

    Thanks Jason! It looks good so far. I don’t know too much about sitting in the student section. But, if there are some problems that typically occur there (i.e. the fact that some people never really sit in the same seat that is on their ticket or whatever else) that might be good to include.

  297. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 7:55 am


    I am wondering if the coaches are really into following Mack to hell/heaven, or is there an undercurrent thats not being reported but is being alluded to by the players’ overall play, and words from peeps like Coach Ken?

    i really neva like say that because we got the whole WAC season ahead, but I might as well put it out dayah so day all get their collective heads outta da sand and turn this ship around! Remember, its not about you. Its not about US. Its about ALL US. WARRIOR NATION!

    Fire em up, Coach! Close the door, go one on one with all of them, including both brothers. You the one getting the heat. You deserve the shot! You guyz are all winners… Yu got a great team. Now go go go!


  298. Bulla September 16, 2008 8:00 am

    big hilo,

    there is some opala that needs to be taken care of, that is all i am going to say, and that goes both ways.

    Go Warriors, you determine your destiny……IMUA

  299. Bulla September 16, 2008 8:01 am

    big hilo,

    i didn’t mean both ways as here with Tsaikos, i meant to the team collectively 🙁

  300. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 8:03 am

    A winning team has more than one great player. Coach Mack needs his whole staff. But sumbody in dat group gotta be da leader. rise up above the rest. lead the gang. who is that guy? for the emotional aspect of the game, i no like sumbody talk to me about packages and schemes. i like da guy who making like dat ugly McKnight an Reinbold, pacing in front ah da sidelines, yellin at EVERYBODY
    firing up da coaches including Mack. we need someone like that who no scared pi$$ peeps off, a result maker!

  301. mctruck September 16, 2008 8:08 am

    Well , June Jones’ SMU team is on the same footing as UH right now; it’ll take another year or two for new coaches/new team, etc., to get their feet wet and adjustments to be made. Everyone just needs to continue to do their part as fans; keep encouraging and rooting for dah team, things will get better. GO WARRIORS/WARRIOR NATION!!!

  302. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 8:11 am

    Coach, I can be dat guy. bettah yet, one of yu can be dat guy. But somebody gotta be dat guy!!!

    I can just feel dat, because everything is new, people are feeling themselves out in the situation. you guyz all feel you get a stake in the outcome, put alot of hard work into all this, no doubt.

    but my gut telling me that both the coaches and the players gotta step up anudda level. we all know yu get one soff hart. yu showing dat wit kids and cases we not going talk about. and we all know yu stay making sof sof with St Louis School guyz an we all waitin for Geordon’s case fo pau, but dat hole up going last for da whole season. i tole you dat months ago.

    its dat undercurrent i’m talking about, coach. da edges are interfering with the winning wayz we all used to getting.

    so put down da pom poms, hike up da bvdeez an go crack sum okole! talk about it. you are all worth it.
    We’re worth it!!!!!

    See what happens wen you pi$$ peeps off? an who wen buss up Punahou? 😆 dats right, da Panteez an Preeetz from da low lying ridge by da nex valley. 😆 gotta use fightin wurds for stir up da birdz. 😆 just like one chicken fight. 😆 gotta stir tings up befo da beef 😆

    Go Warriors!!!!

  303. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 8:17 am

    whew! dat wuz good fun! 😀
    an i meant erry word.

    have a great day Tsaikos an errybody else
    except a certain guy who stay ruinin our
    Ching Cooke Field Fix. :F

    Go Warriors!

    hi ho hi ho

    Esme wooooooooooshhhhhhhhhhhh

  304. bighilofan2 September 16, 2008 8:19 am

    Coach Ken,

    everytime you grade UH Warriors, make one category grade for Ching Cooke Field. Put da F out there. All the people in Hawaii gotta know you do not mess with UH Warrior Football. Ever. Period.

  305. jm2375 September 16, 2008 8:20 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos! Another beautiful day in paradise. Too bad I have to spend it indoors. 🙁

    Mctruck – I heard BC say yesterday that he talked to JJ this weekend and JJ told him that only 2 guys on SMU defense would be on the field if they played at UH.

    Clueless wahine $0.02 opinion – realistically, I thought the team would be 1-2 at this point, but I didn’t think we would look this bad. That being said, injuries aside, we still have time and I have the confidence in the coaches and players that we will prevail. We may not win the conference this year, but we should at least be bowl-eligible.

    The Wahine look much better than last year, but their passing still needs improvement. I hope they keep working at it, but since conference play is starting, there probably isn’t a sense of urgency to do so.

    Have a great day. May or may not be able to lurk till tonight, so have a great day everyone. BELIEVE!

    MeiLing – are you on your way home?

  306. Bulla September 16, 2008 8:23 am


    BHF2, mahalo for the props for da guz dat wen go bus up da puns da oddah night.

    for a moment, i taught dat we was wit da holy ghost rollahs from makawao, it all wen go buckaloose, and da last time i saw one pounding li dat, was at PCC wen do go make da fresh poi for us at da luau….whew, dem buggas was gettin cracks lef and right, bottom to top, dey wen tap out just trying for stop…..

    da rocks on da hill at kalaepohaku stay all set up now, solid as can be, nobody goin mess wit dat ones dere…no way…even papa leahey stay smiling between his ears, like one santa claus in june, cause it’s all gooooood….auryte my bruddah, gotta protect da indigenous people (locals) from da capitalistic empire (da tourists)…..since stay one bye week, mo bettah Tsaikos vs. Sports Hawaii in flag football, and den da real contest…….chug a lug lug….what you tink?

    esme whoosh out…….or whateva’s……

  307. Da Punchbowl Kid September 16, 2008 8:25 am

    Good morning gangeez! You wakin’ up da chikkins again, Hilo? 😆

    Very important couple of weeks ahead. I have faith in Coach Mack. Let the coaches coach, let the players play. And let’s hope Graunke and AhSoon can both be back very soon.

  308. chawan_cut September 16, 2008 8:30 am

    anyone seen homey?

    did he go into hiding after the loss on saturday?

  309. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 16, 2008 8:33 am

    good morning tsaikos

    great news about T.Graunke!

    now i am not going to pretend i know a whole lot about the game. BUT does anyone here think that if we want to run the ball as much as we do we should employ some different allignments. I mean having the rb setting up along side the shotgun almost everytime…has UH attempted to employ power I’s or try running options etc? just a thought.

    go warriors!

  310. (Jesse) James September 16, 2008 8:54 am

    Good morning Tsaikos and Tsaikettes…will be pulling a number of Esme’s today. Just wanted to see what was up and say hello.

    IWWTHM – UH has run the option as part of their repertoire in the past and have run it a few times this year so that is an option, no pun intended, of their running game.

    Pride – I agree with you 100%. The guys have to play the game in their heads every day before the actual game. Repetition only makes things easier in the fast paced game situation as things only come naturally. I equate it to firefighter/paramedic training. We did stuff over and over and over again, not only physically, but mentally as well. We ran over hundreds of scenarios in our heads on a daily basis during our two years of training. Even after getting certified, we continued to train. Why? Because when we were put into pressure situations such as saving a life, we just were able to react and do things without “thinking” so to speak. Things just came so naturally to us. We just knew what to do since we had done it hundreds/thousands of times before in our heads. The same can be said when I played ball. Coach always told us that the game was more mental than physical, that many people thought of FB players simply as jocks but that you really needed smarts to play the game. I found that to be true back than and still relevant today. Thanks for your insight.

  311. Hoohiki September 16, 2008 9:04 am

    On a more positive note…How ’bout them Monarch RBs? Pilares, Bailey, and now Furtado!

  312. Kekoa September 16, 2008 9:08 am

    Good Morning Hawaii!

    Off to a late start this AM. My eyez getting all crossed trying to decipher my Big Hilo Braddah’s post toasties! Hehehe…gotta admit, da buggah get more pure ‘Passion’ den da fruit!

    So, as a result, I been thinkin’ and dats not always good. For whatevah it’s wurt, here’s my contribution to BHF2’s new *slowdistic* bananah for Sadowski:

    Pitcha one giant slippah on one half da bannah. Write “UH Field repairs” on dah bizniz end of dah slippah.

    On the other half of the bannah, have a caricature of Sadowski, (only we use his cartoon name, “Slowdowski.”) Project his image bent at the waist, and receiving a giant WAC from dah slippah. The one who will be pitcha’d delivering da fatal blow…why BHF2…of course! The text balloon coming from his mouth could read something like, “Eh!…Babooz! – Why you wen delay da repair?”..or..”Next time I goin’ use one golf shoe!”

    😎 -Kekoa

  313. Garret September 16, 2008 9:13 am


    There is one big contrast between SMU and UH right now. SMU was horrible last year on D and years of losing had hurt their recruiting significantly. I saw an article about how more than half of their 2-deep chart are freshmen! UH, on the other hand, has I think 33 seniors…including a lot of players who technically weren’t starters last season but were some of the key players on D last year (Mouton, Veikune, etc.).

    Mack has to think about the future, especially due to the LARGE senior class, which is why I think he’s reluctant to burn redshirts of some players that might be able to help now. Players like Paipai, Blount, Heun, etc., might be able to help the team this season, but if they redshirt then the team will be set up better for the future.

    Thinking about the future is also why I do not understand why Alexander or Rausch did not get some playing time late in the Weber State or Oregon State games. Sure, Tyler needed the reps against Weber State–but late in the game he was just handing off the ball (except for the risky option call that almost got him killed). Not even a single series for either JC QB? And Inoke had gotten a lot of playing time in the Oregon State game, so maybe one of the JC QBs could have been given some playing time for a drive or two at the end when the game was basically over.

    From what I read before the Oregon State game, Rausch wasn’t getting any reps (unless you count “mental reps”). Alexander has gotten some reps in practice but no playing time since the Florida game. If they are part of the future for next year, it might be good for them to get some playing time. Even if it is just handing off the ball at the end of a game, at least they are on the field taking snaps in game conditions…

  314. Kekoa September 16, 2008 9:14 am

    Hoohiki ~ I’m curious…what’s da wurd on da tree Monarchs you speak of? I’m assuming you are referring to Kealoha, and Kama, but what’s da scoop on Furtado?

  315. addahknowjoe September 16, 2008 9:22 am

    Yeah. Howz the Monarchs. Where they finding all these good RB’s. Unreal!

  316. al September 16, 2008 9:47 am

    damien has had a history of great running backs. joe hisatake comes to mind. yeah, same family as ray hisatake.

    i think that there big olineman make for a good running game.

    on another take, i used to joke with my damien friends, that they would mostly run because their “half a practice field” they couldn’t spread out players to run passing routes.

  317. Pride. September 16, 2008 9:58 am


    September 16th, 2008 at 9:22 am
    Yeah. Howz the Monarchs. Where they finding all these good RB’s. Unreal!

    A-joe, they probably bring them in from Na’alehu amd Ka’u, because gotta run far for get anywhere ova dea. Everything is far away, you gotta run far just to go and pick up groceries. And then you gotta run far foa go to school.

  318. Pride. September 16, 2008 10:05 am

    Boggles the mind to think of how many good athletes there are out there how didn’t get a chance to show their stuff because they were stuck in a program that didn’t give them a chance to show their stuff. Like for instance a running back from Ka’u who doesn’t get the exposure , so doesn’t get a chance to go to college. Look how far Bernard Carvalho went, from Kapa’a to the Dolphins. How about Jordan Dizon from Waimea High to the Lions. They all got a chance to show what they can do. There are others out there who don’t get that chance. We as fans need to be the ones to point out the diamonds in the rough for the Warrior coaches. Example Kimo Von Olhoffen from Moloka’i High. There might be an excellent left tackle hiding somewhere at Hana or Kohala high school, you never know.

  319. Pride. September 16, 2008 10:06 am

    Gotta do an Esme. Whooosh.

  320. Jason September 16, 2008 10:28 am

    FYI, new post.

  321. Bulla September 16, 2008 10:34 am

    When Pride does an Esme,


  322. K'night Moves September 16, 2008 10:46 am

    The main difference as it is becoming more & more evident, is obviously the departure of Colt & company along with June. But not for their play or coaching skills but their ability to get the entire team focused as one.

    Too many players now playing individually and trying to make a name for themselves caught up in the glory of last year. Sure we have a few that still adhere to those principles but note, “a few…”

    Mac is great in teaching technique as is the Lee brothers, but as we all can see, the overall cohesiveness is missing. One mind, one heart one goal….and thats to pick up when & where one of us falters. We have too much individual talent to waste on not coming together as a, t-e-a-m.

    Just as the sportscasters mentioned during that debacle last week, the Warriors depend on their timing & rhythm. Uh how can we when we are all out of sync?

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