Tuesday check-ups

Quarterback Taylor Graham, who missed the past two games because of an injury to his left (non-throwing) shoulder took some reps in practice today. It’s still iffy whether he will be available for Saturday’s road game against UNLV. Whether Graham is ready or not, expect: 1) Sean Schroeder and Ikaika Woolsey to split most of the reps this weeks; 2) Woolsey to have a larger role in this week’s game, and 3) Jeremy Higgins to be included on the 64-player travel roster.

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Faga Wily, who still is experience problems from a concussion-related injury,  did not practice today. But Marcus Langkilde took reps as a tailback. Langkilde had been bothered by a shoulder injury.

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With Craig Cofer getting more work at tight end, that opens up room for Niko Uti on the defensive line. Expect Uti to make the travel roster.

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By the way, the UH band will be making the trip to Vegas.


  1. UHfan808 October 8, 2013 5:34 am


  2. Loa October 8, 2013 5:35 am

    morning gang!

    congrats UHfan808

    heal up Warriors

  3. Loa October 8, 2013 5:38 am

    i heard this quote recently:

    failure is only temporary but quitting is permanent 🙂

  4. tom mui October 8, 2013 8:39 am


    Hoping for a fast recovery for our injured Warriors!

  5. (Jesse)James October 8, 2013 8:41 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!!!

    Healing for all the Warriors.

    Samson Anguay @ RB…interesting.

  6. Marleysdad October 8, 2013 8:41 am

    Ah….good morning!

    New week, new opponent, another opportunity to win!

  7. (Jesse)James October 8, 2013 8:43 am

    If Wily has concussion like symptoms over a two week period it doesn’t sound good. They should probably hold him out until he is medically ready to return. Did he play to many games to qualify for a medical redshirt???

  8. Slugger October 8, 2013 8:49 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Yup, I’m worried about Wily’s state of health. Be real careful; it’s his future, football or not.

    Hope everyone is getting better, but don’t play unless they are well enough.

  9. pu'uwai October 8, 2013 8:51 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka. Imua Warriors!!!

  10. azwarrior22 October 8, 2013 8:52 am

    Tom-Warrior or Slugger,

    My laptop crashed so I don’t have access to my e-mail regarding extra ticket for UNLV game. You can reach me on my cell: 602 – 317 – 2005.

    Go Warriors…get first win in Vegas !!!

  11. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 8:54 am

    #3 nice quote… I know some “fans” have quit on the team, but we don’t need em. Trim the fat as they say.

    Hope Wily can heal up. Tough break for a such a good young talent. Good thing Chow has a couple very good RB committed for 2014. You can never be too deep an any position group.

    Sure hoping Graham is available. SS showed us what he can do, but also showed his limitations (hesitant at times, arm strength, and inconsistent accuracy on easy throws). His deep ball has improved from 2012, but that’s mainly do to better WRs making plays.

    If TG isn’t ready, then I’m in favor of Woosley starting. He has the arm to stretch the field plus the mobility is a plus. He needs live game experience to improve pocket awareness and get accustom to D1 game speed. SS is more experienced, and has a better grip on the offense, but he’s costing UH when he goes into his 20-30 minute funks after making couple mistakes.

    Saturday’s line opened Hawaii +9.5 or +10. The casinos that opened at 10 are now at +9.5. From what I’ve heard, theres a lot of money coming in for Hawaii. Pretty sure Vegas bettors don’t trust UNLV as a 10 point favorite over anybody.

  12. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 8:57 am

    #7… you might be right about the medical redshirt. Wily has not played since Oregon St in week 2.

  13. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 9:05 am

    The remainder of the 2013 schedule is very doable..

    UNLV is next…

    Now that Keeton is out for season, @Utah St is no longer an automatic loss. SDSU is struggling this year. CSU isn’t very good. Army and Navy are always going to be winnable games.

    The only for sure loss I have slated is at Wyoming. 7,000 ft elevation and certainly going to be horrible, freezing weather and probably snow. The only way UH wins at Wyoming is if they can recruit Jason Gesser to come to Hawaii as QB coach or maybe offensive coordinator next year.

    There’s still a very slim chance UH can still get 6 wins. I still stand by my preseason prediction of winning 4 of the last 7. Hawaii always has to fight the history of being a bad road team.

  14. haka October 8, 2013 9:05 am

    Heal up Warriors!

    Life is like a box of chocolates.
    You never know what you’re gonna get.

    Can you say Bubba?

    Let’s Go Rainbow Warriors!

  15. Buffoman October 8, 2013 9:11 am

    Wily is such a talent. He may not be as fast as DSJ or tough up the gut as Lakalaka but there is something so effortless and smooth about his running and ability to shake free.

    Get really well before playing or red shirt. In that period he could get down to his scholastic needs, strengthen up and possibly develop even more quickness.

    SS may be good as a “reliever” but seems to struggle to finish a complete game. Higgins has been a terrific support to the system. I say, if TG is not 100%, why not let Higgins get a start. Give him the reps now leading up to the game. He may not have the arm strength, may not know as much as SS, but if as Coach says, we don’t have a real QB at the moment, so why not give a good soldier an opportunity of consequence.

  16. oldtimer808 October 8, 2013 9:11 am

    Good morning to all. It must have been a nasty concussion for Wily. It might be a good idea to have him redshirt for his health. Don’t be discouraged to our student/athletes continue to work hard and contribute to the team and study hard and get your degree. Go get the Rebels and get the ball rolling. Don’t listen or read the negative comments just go for broke in the remaining games. Go Rainbow Warriors.

  17. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 9:17 am

    Utah St is way better than Nevada and Nevada smoked Hawaii with 3rd string 1st year QB. Utah St is going to be heavy favorites.

    SDSU also just beat Nevada with Fajardo.

    My 4 win prediction might need to be reduced

  18. Moocher October 8, 2013 9:21 am

    hey we made the espn bottom 10…..let’s go bows 🙂

  19. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 8, 2013 9:26 am

    What happened to the RB Wilson?

  20. Moocher October 8, 2013 9:28 am

    as long as they compete….wins will come.

  21. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 9:30 am

    Former UH Athlete:
    I respectfully disagree. UH needs all the fans they can get, fair weather or not. Some might be fair-weathered fans of football but die hard fans of one of the other sports, too. Fair-weathered fans might be easier to turn into die-hard fans than those that aren’t fans at all.

    Besides they wouldn’t be so emotionally “turned off” if they didn’t have strong feelings for the program in the first place. They just project their feelings a different way.

    When I was a salesman, I took a “no” as always being the step before the “yes”.

  22. cocobean October 8, 2013 9:36 am

    jeezy….good thing the better team doesn’t always win.

  23. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 9:39 am

    22. Yeah but this team hasn’t won yet… Unless Graham gets healthy, season not looking to bright.

  24. RedZone October 8, 2013 9:41 am

    I like how coaching staff is rewarding players like Samson who has worked so hard. That’s the way to do it.

  25. cocobean October 8, 2013 9:42 am

    reality 0-5. You can’t argue with that.

  26. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 9:43 am

    In all honesty, the only game where Hawaii has been competitive in was USC… After that, games were pretty much under control….. Fresno got lazy and started turning the ball over and playing prevent..

  27. A-House October 8, 2013 9:59 am


    just read your post #118

    ok, go for it – I’ll take UNLV – let me know when I can collect?

  28. huh? October 8, 2013 10:01 am

    #23 jeezy33
    After all the talk, you think Graham is the best option at QB now?

    I think Hawaii showed some competitiveness in all the games, just not sustained. I also think Hawaii made plays on Fresno rather than them being “lazy”. And didn’t Fresno stop playing prevent after we scored the third touchdown?

  29. Darren October 8, 2013 10:03 am

    It’s about time for BYU again…


  30. A-House October 8, 2013 10:06 am


    I do hope that you are not including me in your opening paragraph.

    If you are, then someone has to step forward and cough up more than $10,000 a year to UHAD!

  31. A-House October 8, 2013 10:07 am


    if Chow starts Graham and calls a conservative game and Kaumeyer goes with his 3 – 5 scheme, grans-ball-berrings I will win.

    Take that to the bank.

  32. Slugger October 8, 2013 10:17 am


    Just sent you a text. I’ll call if I don’t hear back from you soon. The student who wanted to go to the game is still up in the air about getting off work, so you should sell the ticket.

    Anyone need a ticket to the UH-UNLV game?

    I’ll be there sitting next to Midnight & the Mrs.!!! Yay! (Thanks, tom-warriornation!)

  33. Wes'side Warrior October 8, 2013 10:17 am

    Morning, Gang!

    Heal up, Warriorz!!!

    Gotta fight through this slide!

    Take it to Vegas, baby!

    Have a great day, everyone!

    Might bring da kids to one of da lagoons out at Ko ‘Olina today… still not sure…

  34. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 10:21 am

    28. I said SS deserved the start last week. Never said he was good or going to lead us to wins. After watching the entire game, it was evident how limited our offense is under SS. Too many short hop throws and offense too dependent on long fades that are 50/50 at best. I described it on Sunday so I am not going to go into it again. I don’t even know if Graham is the answer but he probably gives Hawaii the best chance to win unless Woolsey can improve. Graham hasn’t proven anything but at least you can open up the play book with him and stretch out the defense. He doesn’t turn it over too much minus USC.

    Everyone sees the game differently but I try my best watching the game from a unbiased point of view. There’s just 0 consistency with this team. you need some consistency to win a football game. You can’t come out against San Jose and score 14 quick points and have your offense go stagnant for the rest of the game. Just like you can’t spot Fresno 42 and think you can just come back. Both games weren’t very competitive in my eyes.

  35. Tanman October 8, 2013 10:28 am

    We need a new mascot! We need someone at the football games and other sports too!! A mascot to go with the names Rainbow Warriors and Rainbow Wahines… May be we need two mascots, one for the warriors and one for the wahines… UH should find some good prize sponsors (Disney Aulani, Vacations Hawaii, Sheraton Hotel, Hawaiian Airlines, Oceanic Cable, etc.) and setup a design contest for a kid division and a grow-up division. The top finalist’s designs should be placed on the web or printed on the newspaper for everybody to vote for the ultimate winner! Create these mascots – may be the grow-ups division winners will become the regular mascots while the winners of the kids division will become the junior mascots… Think of numerous opportunities for merchandising in the future!!

  36. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 10:30 am

    Basically when QB talking with Hawaii, it is like Jacksonville picking between Chad Henne and Blaine Gabbert. You’re not exactly picking from a strong batch of players so no matter who I pick at the current time, my argument is going to be very weak….

  37. NotNasti October 8, 2013 10:35 am

    The success of the offense starts and ends with the O-line. Just watch how much time Mariotta has to pass. It’s no wonder that his receivers are wide open. No holes for the running backs as well. Diocemy St. Juste is really quick, and shifty, with great balance, but he’s been hit behind the line of scrimmage more often than not. A good O-line will make an average quarterback look great.

  38. al October 8, 2013 10:38 am

    mr. ahouse.
    you so sure of that bet?
    then you should give me odds as well.
    like 2:1 payout.
    you unlv -10 win 50
    me uh +10 win 100.

  39. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 10:40 am

    37. Agree… That’s why I was surprised Woolsey wasn’t used more against San Jose St…The zone read with Woolsey forces the defense to account for him as a runner and can’t swarm the whole D towards the RB. Once you break off a few nice runs… the play action to TE will open up. Then screens will open up… I think you can simplify a game plan that allows Woolsey to succeed. I remember Norm Chow did it with Hays at Utah when Wynn got hurt.

  40. SteveM October 8, 2013 10:49 am

    Good morning everyone!

    A-House — beware of al. You should hold out for the 9.5 like FUHA noted in post #11.

  41. al October 8, 2013 10:55 am

    gee thanks steve

  42. Bigislandkurt October 8, 2013 11:04 am

    Besides supporting the team no matter what, what constitutes a good fan in this fair weather state called the 50th?


  43. OC Warrior October 8, 2013 11:09 am

    @ 39 – I remember that season and how Hays was not a good passing QB and Coach Chow totally modified the offense to make the most of Hays because that is all he had to work with. That is why it perplexes me as to why he is not doing similar things here. However, that Utah team did have a much better running game so again, it probably goes back to the O-line. But as you pointed out before, that has been the area where the coaches have made the biggest mis-judgements in recruiting.

  44. Lou October 8, 2013 11:12 am

    #11 what an ignorant statement. Trimming the fat? Really? The “fat” that’s being trimmed is what will keep the program viable and alive. Yes, go ahead and rely on the senior citizen loyal fan base and see how profitable the FB program will be. It’s the “fat” that’s bringing in NEW and much needed money to the FB program. Instead of trimming the “fat” this program NEEDS MORE “fat” if this athletic department wants to go where it dreams of going (PAC -12). The only way to get MORE “FAT” is to win and Chow has shown that he has NO CLUE on how to do that.

  45. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 11:13 am

    A good fan supports and roots for their team through the good and the bad….. Not everyone can afford to attend every single game so I wouldn’t say someone is not a good fan if they can’t make it to all the games.. Also some fans don’t live in Hawaii either.

    It doesn’t make a fan a bad one if they aren’t happy with results, coaching decisions, poor play, etc though as long as they are still rooting and sticking by their team.

  46. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 11:19 am

    43. I agree. They had a big time RB and a better O line. Still, the strength of this team is still the defense and simplifying things so that a guy like Woolsey can make easy throws and runs while keeping the D rested would still be a lot better than quick 3 and outs and INTs and keeping the D on the field the whole game.

    It is quite possible that defenses will stop the run early on. But maybe in the 2nd half opposing defenses will tire out and slowly the offense opens up when Woolsey pulls back and hits a wide open Clark Evans over the middle or a Gant wide open down field.

    Right now, I just feel like Hawaii puts itself in predictable play calling situations.

  47. Maddog50 October 8, 2013 11:19 am

    Trim down the offense….put the D and O in position to succeed based on ability and let it ride….this game is a lot more simple than it looks….it takes resolve to go down that road–Go Warriors….dare to win……

  48. Independent Thinker October 8, 2013 11:39 am

    Put in Higgins.

  49. Independent Thinker October 8, 2013 11:39 am

    Salvage the remaining season.

  50. PeteJek October 8, 2013 11:56 am

    Given the remaining teams on UH’s schedule, the following can be stated: It is reasonable to expect this defense to limit opponents to 20 points or less a game. It is equally reasonable to expect this offense to score at least 21 points a game. Therefore, it is a reasonable expectation for the team to win the rest of their games this year. Yes?

  51. A-House October 8, 2013 11:58 am


    your #40 – it never crossed my mind to waiver from the 9.5 and yes, I do know that al is a scheming fellow – did you not mention that a certain McKinley classmate was like that?

    al: so, if I put up $100 and win $50, I get $150 back? and, there are no ODDS to play with as my pockets are not as deep as casino owners.

    therefore, we both put up $100 and winner takes all!! spread stays at 9.5 “what say you?”

  52. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 11:59 am

    I think it depends on what you mean by “reasonable”. The Warriors are pretty banged up right now. They may be in their worst condition this season.

  53. A-House October 8, 2013 12:02 pm

    Like the military, if the “assumption are wrong” then everything that follows is wrong.

    Only the coaching staff can make the “assumptions” – players go out and execute or fail to execute

    who is to blame for losses?

  54. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 12:13 pm

    30…those people know who they are.

    Jeezy, I just meant that Utah St is not an automatic, set in stone loss. The next QB is completely untested and Gary Anderson isn’t there anymore to push the right buttons. Do I think Hawaii will win in Logan? Not likely.

  55. Old Diver October 8, 2013 12:23 pm


    We need to remember that year Utah had the number one defense in the PAC-12 carrying the team. Utah’s Chow led offense was rated dead last in the PAC-12.

  56. cocobean October 8, 2013 12:24 pm

    OC n Jezzy……

    In 2011 Utah ran Chow’s version of the WC offense with a TE, TB and FB. I’d guess it was a 75/25 ratio of snaps taken from under center v snaps from the gun. I don’t think we have the personnel to run that O because it does start with a physical O line. Tailoring the O to fit your personnel is easier said then done and in our case it;s fitting the O to the capabilities of our O line. Graham and Schroeder are more manager type QBs while Woolsey has shown he has the potential to be a play making QB. Good arm, enough mobity to extend plays and enough speed to run for yardage if necessary.

    I have a feeling Chow thinks Graham is the best fit for what the O line is capable of doing for now. Big and tall with a strong arm, limited mobility but not a statue. Mature and hard working, a student of the game. Traits that Chow values in a QB.

  57. A-House October 8, 2013 12:27 pm

    oopppsss – verb agreement error – should read “assumption is wrong” – hope Mrs A-House not lurking!

  58. Stephen Tsai October 8, 2013 12:27 pm

    That’s a tough situation for Wily.
    It’s good that UH is being cautious, especially since he’s still having problems nearly a month after suffering the concussion. I think we’ve all learned about the importance of being careful following concussions.

  59. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 12:49 pm

    56. You might be correct. But truth is Norm Chow found a way to win football games at Utah in 2011 where in my opinion, odds were in favor of him failing. Jon Hays was probably the worst PAC 12 QB that season along with Maynard from Cal. I’m not saying I have all the answers.

    I just feel like Norm has done this long enough to find a way to simplify things where you can put this current team in situations to win. I didn’t feel like our O line played that bad against San Jose St or Fresno. If our defense isn’t on the field for the majority of the game and we cut down turn overs, I think we can rely on the defense to hold opponents on the schedule to 20 ppg. So that means find a way to score 24+ while taking care of the football.

  60. Whats up October 8, 2013 1:00 pm

    I said before to play Woolsey against Fresno State and Schroder lit up the score board. So I going to trust in Chow decision. But the game reps Woolsey is getting now is invaluable.

  61. gobows October 8, 2013 1:06 pm

    consistently inconsistent

  62. Whats up October 8, 2013 1:10 pm

    I honestly think Hawaii can beat UNLV on the road at UNLV, I don’t think anybody on this years team is going to have family members bet on the game. And then throw the game like that year Hawaii was upset by UNLV at UNLV. Of course, this is just speculation that Hawaii threw that game but it’s just strange how Hawaii with Moniz at QB got blown out by the worst team in the MWC and in FBS. But I digress. Hawaii should beat UNLV in a squeaker.

  63. OC Warrior October 8, 2013 1:10 pm

    @ 56 – The point of Jeezy’s post was not to debate that we run the same offense, it was to point out how Coach Chow adjusted to a very different QB after Wynn was lost for the season and he had to use Hays who was recruited to run a spread offense and had a horrible arm.

    Also, Chow does not run a WC offense, that does not work in college. You can call his offense whatever you want but he has multiple sets, everything from empty backfield and five wides to multiple tight ends and two backs.

  64. Darren October 8, 2013 1:16 pm

    If we ever get consistently consistent…we’d be deadly.

  65. Darren October 8, 2013 1:20 pm

    Colonel A-House, how can you ever bet against the home team?? I raise the ante from a spam musubi to a plate lunch from anywhere along Fort Street Mall…straight up. What say you??

  66. OC Warrior October 8, 2013 1:20 pm

    Darren – too funny! But very true…..

  67. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 1:31 pm

    63. Yeah exactly my point…. Once Wynn got hurt, I think everyone in the Pac 12 expected Utah to crap the bed…. Norm found a way and got it done with a very limited QB.

    Now once again, he is in a similar situation with limited Qb play. Just keep things simple if he wants to give a young kid like Woolsey a shot. Draw up a game plan so he can succeed. This is why Norm was hired in the first place…

  68. Whats up October 8, 2013 1:44 pm

    The critics say that Chow has to throw to open up the run and run more spread looks and read option with a mobile QB like Woosley. But Tsai knows that Chow has done those things this season and the light bulb is going on for the Offensive players. And the critics said the offense can’t score a touchdown and now the Offense has score many touchdowns against Fresno and San Jose. Thats called improvement people!

    The turnover margin is still bad, got to stop fumbling and throwing interceptions more than your opponet. Got the clean up the penalties, can’t killing momentum by committing penalties on offense and defense. The execution on defense, offense and special teams is still suspect at times but it’s improving. This is the big one, QB play is improving (except Higgins because he has gotten as many game reps this season like the other QB). Overall, the team is improving this season. Got to see if they continue to improve and get the 4 wins I predict for this season or not?

  69. Derek October 8, 2013 1:55 pm

    The Utah RB who was very good is John White. He was a hard runner. The best call Chow made was in the bowl game before he left for Hawaii was the draw play that went close to 10 yards and into the end zone to win the game. That was a gutsy call. And I think it was 4th down too. I have to say that was one exciting game.
    But I also think Utah had better athletes overall and definitely a better defense. Hello!!!!! Of course they have a better defense and better athletes, they made it to a bowl game stupid!!!!!!Sorry, I’m talking to myself!

    I wish we had a guy on the offensive line like Tala Esera. This Kahuku standout started at OT for 4 straight years and he is one of June Jones best recruits ever, maybe along with Samson Satele too. There must be somebody here in Hawaii can be a 4 year starter as well in the future. Is Kapoi the man, is it Tupai (a redshirt)? If I was Chow, I would look for 2 QBs in the upcoming recruiting class. One a freshman, the other a transfer.

    We are still short one assistant coach, the OC. I think Chow should fill that position. Let his ego go. I personally think Chow is doing too much and his productivity is going down. You can’t tell me that a 66 year old person is not slowing down. Go younger. Hello!!!! Nick Rolovich!

  70. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 1:56 pm

    As far as what to do vs UNLV…

    UH just gotta stop squandering points after good drives (Hadden has misfired a few times, penalties, and some mental mistakes cost UH some scores this year). There’s been about 2-3 quality drives in each of the last couple games that come up empty. Its just an execution thing.

    The fast tempo is good for change in pace once in a while. If UH has a personnel mismatch vs the opponent, by all means play fast and take advantage of it, but if not, take the time to call adjustments or call audible to get it right. Playing up tempo and going 3 and out is just a killer for the defense.

    If TG isn’t able to play, Woosley should start.

    UH must win turnover battle. Negative turnover margin will result in loss.

    Kaumeyer needs to get back to the 4-3 vs UNLV… UNLV has a couple offensive playmakers. RB Tim Cornett is a very solid RB and UH needs the extra beef to clog the trenches. UNLV wants to run the ball to set up the pass.

    My amateur armchair Def coordinator says that Nequan Philips is going to stay on UNLV’s best WR Davante David all game. Davis is the main receiving threat and should have a safety help on passing situations.

    Rotate Garcia-Williams or Dailey to spy the running QB Caleb Herring.

    Minimize zone coverage and play more man. UH had too many zone breakdowns last week and Philips and Maggitt are good enough to let them go one on one so JHT and Jackson are more free to attack the run.

    DEs Yap and Woodard are better suited for the 4-3 and I think they have better games. I don’t think there will be a need to blitz as much. The DLine failed to get through vs SJSU on their own and having to blitz often opened holes in the defense when they couldn’t get pressure on Fales. Keep everything in front, and the speed of UH’s defense will flow to the ball.

  71. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 2:03 pm

    68. If you wanna call that improvement… Basically the majority of the offense is throwing it deep and hoping the WR can make a nice play. Even when we do score, our D isn’t getting rest. At some point, you need to sustain 4 minute drives. Points don’t always tell the truth when it comes to improvement.

    This offense still needs to develop a intermediate passing game which are the most important throws to have in your arsenal.

    At the end of the night, we completed 54% of our passes which is poor and threw just as many TDs(3) as INT(3). We gained 87 yards on the ground which isn’t good either..

  72. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 2:03 pm

    68… spot on.

    UH has been able to move the ball on offense the past few games. They have squandered 2-3 scoring opportunities each of the last few games. Hadden has missed a few FGs, mental mistakes and penalties have cost UH a couple TDs also.

    ST… Any updates on Harding, Kirkwood, and Haynes injury status?

    WRs corp took a big hit last week.

  73. kev-1 October 8, 2013 2:04 pm

    I really believe if Graham is not healthy, UH should do one of the following (I prefer #1). . .

    (1) Take the Fresno game approach and give Woolsey the start and sole reps to see what he can do with Schroeder as a back up. If after two quarters Woolsey hasn’t done anything, pull him. Fresno game they waited too long to pull him. BUT, that was his first start and he hasn’t been given the chance to show what he’s learned from his mistakes.

    (2) Maybe play Higgins.

  74. kev-1 October 8, 2013 2:06 pm

    Our receivers have done pretty darn good with Schroeder taking a chance on them and heaving it up. Imagine if they had a QB with a stronger arm throwing it up for them to make a play. I think we’d be surprised at the results.

  75. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 2:06 pm

    70. I like your idea of a spy… But I wouldn’t use either of them. JGW too valuable in coverage and rushing the passer… Daley isn’t fast enough..

    I may be biased but I want Trayvon Henderson on the field as much as possible and wouldn’t mind using him…

  76. kev-1 October 8, 2013 2:07 pm

    Remember, before Graham got hurt, I don’t think he trusted the receivers to make plays on the ball like that, as he didn’t really take the chances that Schroeder has. Maybe watching the past two games from the sideline and up in the box will show him that he needs to trust his receivers a bit more.

  77. kev-1 October 8, 2013 2:08 pm

    Jeezy . . . I really liked how Trayvon made aggressive plays for the ball. I know sometimes that can result in a big play if you miss, but it takes guts. I like it.

  78. Dino October 8, 2013 2:11 pm

    SS beat UNLV last year. Chow’s gonna roll the dice with the same this Saturday.

  79. Old School Dave October 8, 2013 2:12 pm

    Interesting report on the Coach’s show on the team’s pre-game meal at KCC. S & C coach Gary Beemer has a say in what is prepared and works with the KCC Culinary staff. Coach Beemer was also seen monitoring what the players were putting on their plates. They need to get rid of white rice altogether 🙂

  80. Old School Dave October 8, 2013 2:14 pm

    What’s the estimated Hawaii crowd for the UNLV game?

  81. VIP Stream October 8, 2013 2:18 pm

    68.”This is the big one, QB play is improving” What? SS performance was horrible last week. So many missed reads. the only pass he was successful in throwing were the fades… but the receivers made huge plays on those badly thrown balls. He threw into double coverage a lot, his drops were too short, putting pressure n the O-Line, which played well. UH was never in the game against SJSU and remember, we are talking about a sub-par football team on a THREE GAME SKID, AT ALOHA STADIUM!!!!!!

    What do you think UNLV is going to do after seeing the FSU and SJSU film? Load the box, rolling cover 2 and our run game is kaput, SS will have to orchestrate drives throwing short passes in traffic which he cannot do because he cannot make the proper reads quickly. The worse thing NC could do is go back to Graham who was beyond bad the first three games…

    I am a lifelong fan and former player. I have never seen UH play this badly. Even during their 0-12 season, they fought teams to the end. there is no fight in this team. I see 11 guys playing their hearts out but I don’t see a team fighting for wins. Coaching, coaching, coaching.

  82. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 2:19 pm

    No coach will complain over a fast score. It’s not the offenses fault they score in 2 plays, that’s on the opposing defense for not stopping them.

    Points are points, UH hasn’t scored a ton this year, we’ll take anything we can get.

    I think what everybody wants is to slow the pace between plays. No huddle is fine, but take enough time to get the assignments right or call audible if necessary.

  83. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 2:20 pm

    78… We beat them because our defense dominated them and we ran the ball well. Different QB playing and at Home… completely different situation..

    We got 3 INTs last year. 1 for a TD. Harding returned a punt for a TD. Rushed for 139 yards..SS did play error free though so I give him props there.

    Key against UNLV is our D needs to dominate, we need to establish the run, and protect the football… Would be nice to create a few more INT and maybe a kick return to the house.. Demo seems to coach the most consistent unit on the team. ST always shows up

  84. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 2:21 pm

    82. Still based on your theory, we only scored on the 1st 2 drives and went stagnant after San Jose made adjustments. If you can score quick like Oregon then great… But you can’t score quick twice and have 1 minutes drives the rest of the game… As an offense, it’s nice to have quick score capability but you can’t rely on the home run play every time. Eventually teams will adjust and you have to sustain a drive to score.

  85. LizKauai October 8, 2013 2:22 pm

    Well, I sure enjoyed the play-calling and the execution the J E T S showed us last night. Most of all they had “it”. Unity. One of the most enjoyable football games I have ever seen… from pewee to pro. Like that Little League World Series team a few years ago…

    Play together, Warriors… Play for each other and Play for Hawaii!

  86. Former UH Athlete October 8, 2013 2:27 pm

    Jeezy, I’ve seen Herring play at UNLV before he was converted to safety… He’s mobile, but not a burner. Dailey has enough quicks to get the job done. I just don’t want the spy to be the same defender every play to avoid being predicable. If you mix who does the spying, the opposing coaches won’t be able to adjust as well during the game. Maybe get creative and have Hardy-Tuliau sneak into the box and spy Herring once in a while.

    The worst thing you can be is predictable.

  87. jeezy33 October 8, 2013 2:35 pm

    86. Stopping the run needs to be priority #1. If we can do that, we should be able to get UNLV into a lot of 3rd and long situations. Then Hawaii can be creative and dial up pressure. When UNLV smashed us in 2011, Cornett and Randall gashed us bad. That and Moniz poor performance.

    Fortunately for us, I think we can stop the run in our 4-3 set.

    If we can score 24 points and win the turnover battle, I think we win. That’s my goal… If we lose the turn over battle, then it doesn’t set us up well.

  88. Independent Thinker October 8, 2013 2:52 pm

    Chow. Nobody is perfect. Admit you were wrong. As Spike Lee once said, “do the right thing.” Salvage the season. Take the wins. They are there for the taking. You only need give in to the truth. Then you will have salvation.

    Best of luck, norm, for the rest of the season.

    If we go 0-7, I will probably stop watching, and will instead watch golf, rugby, tennis, and yacht racing, and return to watching UH football only when there has been a full regime change.

    Norm, I like watching UH football and I like cheering for and supporting my school, so do the right thing. It takes courage, but you can do it. Try. Go try. Give um!

  89. Derek October 8, 2013 2:54 pm

    The trends are all in UNLV’s favor. 3 straight wins. Had a bye week to prepare for Hawaii. At home. Hot QB right now. 8 TD passes, zero interceptions. Scoring lots of points lately. 56 points scored at New Mexico in their last game.

    Hawaii 0-5. Haven’t won a road game since 2011 at Idaho 16-14. Averaging 38 points per game allowed, scoring 18 points per game. Minus 6 turnover margin.

    Wise guys in Vegas are taking UNLV.

    Plus for Hawaii. The talent level is probably similar, so the equalizers might be the turnovers and the execution. Attendance: Probably 50-50 between UNLV and Hawaii fans.

    Weather: Should not be a factor, around 70-75 at game time.

  90. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 3:28 pm

    I don’t know if one can really say that the Offense is improving as we have been playing against progressively weaker defenses and teams that have lost key starters while our team has been relatively healthy. Next week, our team might be missing key personnel. I don’t think we have had a game where the QB has completed more than 65% or come close, have we?

  91. haka October 8, 2013 3:58 pm

    man, the conversations today brings back memories. it’s just like the days when we would sit out on the front lawn camped around the hibachi on a Friday night before the next game. steaks on the high, oysters on the low and poke making the rounds. a greenie on the right and a dutchie to the left.

    So we going win?
    I tink so if we dominate.
    but who goin trow?
    Ainokea as long as da line block.
    We going run den.
    But no can fumble brah.
    yeah, no can.

    I tink we get chance.
    I know. Me too.
    we going win what, if we score more den dem.
    yeah, I tink so.
    oh brah, pass me one oystah.
    alright. mahalo brah.

    ho brah howz da stars.
    nutz how many.
    lucky you live Hawaii brah.
    lucky you live Hawaii.
    right on brah.


  92. cocobean October 8, 2013 4:00 pm

    #63. I understood what you and jeezy were saying. I think you missed my point.

    My point was the circumstances are different between 2011 and now. Utah had an Oline that permitted Chow to make adjustments. He did run an WCO in 2011 with a TB, FB and TE the majority opf the time. Both the TE and FB blocked in the running gameand both were a big part of the passing game.

    Again, Chow’s ability to adjust the O to fit the capabilities of his QB’s is limited to the capabilities of his Oline.

    BTW. Never said Chow is running the WCO here or inferred that he should. If you ask me Chow is running the Poi Dog offense. An offense that’s a mix of several different Os.

  93. NotNasti October 8, 2013 4:06 pm

    91. HAKA: No bagato the dutchie, save some fo me.

  94. haka October 8, 2013 4:28 pm

    youuu like?

  95. haka October 8, 2013 4:33 pm

    breaking news…
    mars is dead.

  96. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 4:38 pm

    haka.. you passing around that hoax again?

  97. haka October 8, 2013 4:49 pm

    mih, as you can tell, the long term effects of me passing it around is quite evident.

  98. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 5:23 pm

    I guess this blog needs something else to talk about. Doesn’t feel like football season here.

  99. lava October 8, 2013 5:36 pm

    We each have a decision to make. Recruits know the team is a mess. Leaving Chow in place creates uncertainty. Good recruits are not likely to come to UH over competitive programs. Right now, we lose games, we’re boring, and we’re bleeding money. Showing support is counter-productive. Time to jump on the boycott bandwagon. Like giving blood, small sacrifices today for the benefits of a better future make sense.

  100. RB October 8, 2013 5:39 pm

    Sad to say buy Hawaii finally made the Bottom 10. Being 1 of 9 teams that have not won a game yet this season I wonder who will be the first to get the W out of all 9 teams.


  101. RB October 8, 2013 5:44 pm

    ^^^ But not buy.

  102. PokeBowl808 October 8, 2013 6:04 pm

    Are we going to have the Hawaii broadcast team calling the game Sarurday or are we going the invite Russ Langer to call the game for OC16? OC 16 had Dick Tomey doing color commentary for the SJSU fans watching on MWC website.

    If you’re unaware, Russ Langer is UNLV’s radio play-by-play guy.

    It would be nice to hear the crew talk about Hawaii instead of the other team.

    Oh… Take another shot caz I thought I heard Tomey mention Fales and NFL again.

  103. Warrior Dave October 8, 2013 6:12 pm

    Chow kept playing SS last year even though he took a pounding. End result is back surgery during the off season and back problems for the rest of his life. I’m glad the medical staff is being cautious with Wiley. Heal up a Warriors and come back when you are cleared and feeling ready.

  104. Warrior Dave October 8, 2013 6:19 pm

    #76 Kev1,

    How could Taylor trust his receivers while playing? The first two games they couldn’t hold in to the ball. However, the receivers have improved except for injury to Kirkwood who was playing very good.

  105. Buffoman October 8, 2013 6:20 pm

    It is sort of nuts that some here want to “throw the baby out with the bathwater” as the old saying goes. Boycott the program would not get rid of somebody you dislike, it will kill the entire athletic program. If you think an empty stadium and no local support will grant you your wish it will only give those who want the UH to be only academics all they need to prove that athletic money would be better spent on their areas.

    As crazy as it sounds these are the times when support is needed the most and let the decision makers deal with their business.

  106. oneseason October 8, 2013 7:02 pm

    Until the coaching staff has a complete experienced coaching staff, I just don’t expect the player learning curve to accelerate much. These next two games will hopefully prove me wrong.

  107. tom-warriornation October 8, 2013 7:07 pm

    will this Saturdays game be streamed on: themwc.com
    for mainland fans again?

  108. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 8:43 pm

    Greg McMackin had 23 wins over his first three seasons. For Norm Chow to get the same results, he would have to win all the rest of the games this season and next plus both bowl games.

  109. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 8:43 pm


    I don’t see any streaming for this game.

  110. kapakahi October 8, 2013 8:46 pm

    Quite a few local boys on the UNLV roster……QB Jarin Morikawa (Mililani HS), SS Peni Vea (Kealakehe HS), DT Asten Koki (Roosevelt HS), WR Maika Mataele (Kamehameha-Kapalama).

  111. Dino October 8, 2013 8:57 pm

    wow that’s right coach mack did have 23 wins first 3 years. i always wonder how he would have done if he had that 5th year to work with. perhaps duplicate that 10 win season in 2010?

  112. d1shima October 8, 2013 9:10 pm

    Great Evening All!

    Mahalo to PIAA DS for sharing this:

    This was shown to the Midshipman last week before their game against AFA.


    Guud Stuff!

  113. Buffoman October 8, 2013 9:11 pm

    Did Tomey have more wins in his first two years? What about Jones? There’s probably no chance for Chow to match his predecessors. So what?

    I’m still okay with where we are. Wished it was better but it is what it is. Team needs support. I supported all of the teams since coach Holmes. It was hard at sometimes but this is my team. I am a fan all of the time.

  114. kev-1 October 8, 2013 9:16 pm

    Warrior Dave . . .

    You’re right about the receivers. I didn’t mean to imply that is was Graham’s bad. Just pointing out that the trust wasn’t there. The drops were definitely part of it. But they have shown the past two games that they will go up and try (and are capable) to get it.

  115. madeinhawaii October 8, 2013 9:22 pm

    June had 21 wins his first three years.. 27 his next three and 28 in his last three years.

  116. Not an Expert October 8, 2013 9:30 pm

    UH should play their first 3 games at home. The next 3 on the road. The next 3 at home.
    The next 3 on the road. The last game 13th to be played at home.

    Stay on the mainland for 17 days. With the MWC assistance schedule 3 road games that
    are in close proximity so that travel and cost can be minimzed. Travel on Thursday play
    on Saturday and leave for the next city that night. Get acclimated in that city play on Saturday and leave for the last city that night. Get acclimated and play on Friday if possible and leave for home that night. Do the same thing on the last road trip.

    Advantages is that the fans get to see UH play mostly in September. Attendance should be decent if UH wins the lst two. When they are on the road hopefully they can win 1 of 3. Win 2 and the fans will be waiting for the next homestand. Again win 2, especially the lst two will help the interest and attendance. Back on the road for their 2nd and last road trip. If they win 2 games again the last game is icing on the cake.

    If the cost will be less or about the same doing their traveling this way why not. I believe the acclimation process would be easier to adjust to and give them a better chance to win both on the road and at home.

  117. UHfan808 October 8, 2013 9:33 pm

    Went to my alumni marching band flag practice today and our instructor (the color guard manager) said it’s the senior band members who are traveling to the UNLV game. (They are leaving tonite.)

    We talked about how lucky they are!

    Back then, we traveled only for basketball games at one per year and I think we needed to be a concert band member which meant we needed to be full-time band members.


  118. UHfan808 October 8, 2013 9:44 pm

    The team has proven its talent and we have witnessed many moments of greatness. It seems they have what it takes but something in them is holding them back. Thought we’d win against FSU last week then SJSU this past weekend but now I think it just depends when the team feels it all at the same time. They are amazing yet somehow they don’t feel as confident as they should and their hesitations translate as such on the field.

  119. Warrior Dave October 8, 2013 10:30 pm

    #116 are you serious??? Under your play our players will miss 34 days of school during the fall semester.bas it stands now, they leave Thursday and back on Sunday. That’s a day and half times 6 games.

    Don’t that your recommendation will go over well with upper campus. But that’s thinking outside the box.

  120. NorthShoreFan October 8, 2013 11:08 pm

    Off Topic, but check this out……long but worth watching.

    NFL & Concussions

  121. tom-warriornation October 9, 2013 3:02 am

    Our offense needs this badly: use QB Woolsey in a read-option offense–that way the defense needs to account Woolsey as a running QB; which creates an extra threat; and boy; do we need HELP on our offense right NOW. PLS LISTEN COACH CHOW!

    Maybe alternate this offense every other series with Schroder; and see what works best. If anything; this would keep opposing defenses off balance preparing for 2 completely different offenses.

    How about more trick plays (to also keep fans from saying our offense is boring)–what about a QB roll-out one way; and a throw back to the other side to another former QB; who can either pass downfield; or take off running?

    Can we do the muddle-huddle at least once a game (this is still legal right?); and the hook and ladder; or statue of liberty play like Boise St did in their famous Fiesta Bowl win? Please bring excitement back to Warrior football Coach!

    For one or two series; use the triple-option offense (like Air Force) with either Woolsey or Keelan Ewalike at QB; and again use this to completely surprise the defense in trying to stop another completely different offense. THIS WOULD BE SO ENTERTAINING TO US FANS TO SEE EXTREME CREATIVITY–we would be the only team in the country to use 3 completely different offenses in one game—wouldn’t that at least make ESPN NATIONAL HEADLINES and attract recruits?

  122. SPISSKYHRAD October 9, 2013 4:08 am

    The history of HAWAII football has never had a string of embarrassing and futile losses like the one we are currently in the midst of. What more needs to be said.

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