The promise

Honoring a promise to his father, cornerback Tank Hopkins never takes off a plastic cross.
“My dad made this for me,” he said. “He gave it to me my junior year in high school. I never took it off.”
Hopkins also proudly sports a gold-capped front tooth.
“I got it in the eighth grade,” he said. “It’s like a family tradition. Everyone in my familiy has one.”
Now that training camp is over, Hopkins will resume wearing a weighted vest.
“I wear it to class, meetings, workouts,” he said. “When I take it off, I feel a whole lot lighter.”

* * * * *

Not much happened from yesterday’s walk-through, except:
• Michael Wadsworth participated, which means he must have received clearance. The backlog is ridiculous, especially since 1) he’s a 4.0 student with a 21 ACT score; 2) he’s on the clock because he’s going on a mission next year.
• Kenny Estes apparently is OK from the tweaked leg injury suffered in Friday’s scrimmage. Estes also participated in the walk-through. Estes is key to UH’s plans. UH would like to rotate Estes, Mana Silva, Spencer Smith and Richard Torres at the two safety spots, freeing Aaron Brown to play rover. Then they can slowly work in Wadsworth and Aulola Tonga.
• I have a feeling that by mid-year, Earvin Sione might be contributing as a pass-rusher.
• It’s impossible to ignore Royce Pollard. He blocked a punt in Friday’s scrimmage, and he’s looked good on kickoff returns. He also will platoon with Jovonte Taylor at right wideout. Taylor is the likely No. 1 kick returner.
• It’s going to be fun to watch Alex Green this year.For a big back, he can hit the perimeter quickly. And he’s a threat as the backup wildcat. What’s more, as the offset returner, he gets to hit the gunners on kick returns.


  1. 99club August 23, 2009 9:07 am


  2. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:10 am

    “1”…. not 99?

    ❀ ❀ ❀ ❀ ❀ Good..Morning..Tsaikos..and..Warrior..Nation!!! ❀ ❀ ❀ ❀ ❀

    Well… at least for most of you…. 😀

  3. 99club August 23, 2009 9:10 am

    How many lbs is the vest? Just curious.

    Michelle 1 up going to the final hole.

  4. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:11 am

    So… Tank no longer wears his orange vest anymore? 🙄

  5. 99club August 23, 2009 9:11 am

    Actually, it’s 999 if you click on the handle. 🙂

  6. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:11 am

    I think MW wins the 18th, at least its a win on the final day for her in a very long time

  7. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:12 am

    Guess he had to wash it! 😀

  8. Dan-O August 23, 2009 9:12 am

    Numba 7…….top ten!

  9. Dan-O August 23, 2009 9:12 am

    Crap….make that 8….slow fingers!

  10. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:13 am

    Wow…. Keith Richards… before he was mummified…. 😯

  11. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:14 am

    Is Tank as big a hitter as Nate Jackson was? 🙄

  12. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:18 am

    I’m pulling for MW to WIN!!! 😀

    …. so “sunshine” can be right at least once this weekend…. 😆

  13. 99club August 23, 2009 9:20 am

    I noticed the rolex clocks on the golf tees are 5 minutes slow.

  14. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:22 am

    Were you noticing the time…. or just the Rolex’s?!? 🙄 😆 😯

  15. 99club August 23, 2009 9:24 am

    Michelle wins her match! Point USA!

  16. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:24 am

    Hey….. I like Juli Inkster! They announced that she’s a 49er!!! 😆

  17. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:25 am


  18. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:26 am

    Hope this is the start of many Good Sunday’s for MW!!! 😀

  19. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:28 am

    Oh…. it’s a commercial-looking USA/Peace sticker on her cheek. I thought it was a Mercedes sticker….. 😀

  20. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:28 am

    Wie finished 3-0-1 earning the USA 3 1/2 points.

  21. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:29 am

    Lametrius Davis is more of the big-hitting corner, although I think Ryan Henry will vouch for Steven Stepter.

  22. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:30 am

    Hey Grandpa ST! Mahalo for all the updates! 😆

    How’s the family? 😀

    Will you be passing out cigars? May I suggest shots instead…. 🙄

  23. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:30 am

    How old is Sunshine Ralph, anyway?

  24. whitey August 23, 2009 9:31 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Congrats to Michelle Wie

  25. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:32 am

    without her parents around her as much as Team USA, MW played better and more relaxed. Her putting is getting better, and it will get better with a coach dedicated to putting.

  26. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:34 am

    Gooood! We don’t have the biggest (not all of them) DB’s so numbers/backups are important. We all LOVE ‘dem BIG HITS!!! 😀


  27. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:35 am

    Inkster came back from the deep, she is now 1 up and she played terrific golf over the last 4 holes. one hole to go.

  28. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 9:36 am

    Re: Sunshine….. AARP PLATINUM!!! 🙄

  29. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:37 am

    Ralph is an ophthalmologist.
    I wonder if he prescribes rose-colored glasses.

  30. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:39 am

    I’ve been passing out cigars (real and chocolate), pencils, lollipops, mints and the worst bubble gum ever. It’s shaped like a cigar, but it’s just awful. Anyway, we had a bubble-gum blowing contest at work yesterday.

  31. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:42 am

    yup, surprising how people view life through rose colored lenses…maybe it takes the persona to the pink side when it soothes and pacifies the soul. Bpew is a philosopher, how about it Bpew

  32. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:44 am

    Lang came back from 3 down to halve with Davies. Great comebacks by the US

  33. Kekoa August 23, 2009 9:44 am

    Good Morning *Sunshine!*

    BTW are you auditioning for MW’s PR rep? If you are, find a way to bound & gag her parents so she can continue improving her game. She revealed an open & very enthusiastic side of her personality with this team. So good to see her enjoying herself, and it reflected in her play.

  34. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:45 am

    I’m interested to see the depth chart on the o-line. We know the starters, and Austin Hansen is one of the top backup. But I’m curious to see where the other guys place.
    I guess Clayton Laurel won’t be playing for a while. He’s walking around in a medical boot.

  35. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 9:46 am

    It is interesing that everybody dogs MW, but Sunshine is her biggest supporter.
    And yet, most days it’s overcast ….

  36. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:49 am

    so who won the bubble gum contest?

  37. Kekoa August 23, 2009 9:50 am

    Brew ~ BHF2 is a unique animal on this planet. He does speak with authority when you get nose to nose with him. I can imagine him in a court room wearing his opponent down.

    He can razzle-dazzle when he wants, and worry you with deep emotional questions that can make you wonder yourself if you guilty are innocent!

  38. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:51 am

    Lang finishes 1-0-2, 2 points, great job for another rookie.

  39. Garret August 23, 2009 10:01 am

    Good to hear the updates on Tank, Wadsworth, Estes, Sione, Pollard, and Green. All of the positive developments should be helpful for the season preparation.

  40. Garret August 23, 2009 10:02 am

    Pisa got an excellent review from his last preseason game.

    David Haugh was right about Pisa Tinoisamoa. He is the team’s strongside linebacker. There were a series of about six plays where Pisa was in on every single tackle, assisting both Urlacher and Briggs in bringing down the dominant Brandon Jacobs. I knew he was a good tackler but I didn’t know about his speed.

  41. wafan August 23, 2009 10:03 am

    Things are looking up!

  42. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:03 am


    put dat down. :mrgreen:

  43. Garret August 23, 2009 10:03 am

    Interesting insight into why Colt is struggling this preseason and why Chase is playing like Colt played last year. Chase can play how he wishes, like Colt did last year, but Colt has to run the offense Zorn’s way this preseason…and obviously Colt is having trouble adjusting to doing things Zorn’s way.

    Hawaiians everywhere are in a panic as Colt Brennan had another bad game. He threw an interception in the red zone. The Cult of Colt may be morphing into Daniel’s Den. Fun with Internet crazes aside, Brennan is his second year and his learning curve in Zorn’s offense is showing. Unlike 2008 when he could be the gun slinging rookie, this year the expectation is to run the offense. Daniel is the new kid shooting from the hip. Don’t be too quick to write off Brennan, despite the two poor outings he still has a leg up on Daniel in terms of knowing the offense, and that counts a lot more with Zorn.

  44. Garret August 23, 2009 10:04 am

    This article talks about Chase playing before Colt yesterday.

    The plan all along was to play Chase Daniel ahead of Colt Brennan Saturday night. Do not read into the decision to play him early in the second half. Daniel did a nice job and Brennan needs to improve; he’s achieved an undeserved status. But Daniel still has a ways to go. Still wonder about his size (6-feet? Hard to believe), but he does have intangibles. Brennan takes more chances, hence the interception (a bad read not to mention a staredown of the receiver). Can Daniel unseat Brennan? I still have my doubts. However, Brennan needs to show more. He has not exactly starred either in games or in practice.

  45. SteveM August 23, 2009 10:05 am

    Good morning everyone!

  46. Sunshine… the legend is penned by ST. I like it. (optha or optom ?)

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Yea for Michelle Wie!

    Yea for season tickets in blue!

    Yea for Heather and the coaches! FB season starts on Wednesday!

    Yea for Colt who is a kid no longer!

    Yea for wafan whose scone mix is very yummy. Next time, I’ll get it perfectly.
    Kope time!

  47. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:09 am


    an afta yu get pass moopin an feelin all guilty an chagrinned..
    yu gonna get really mad cuz yu no i stay talkin rite at yo hart an yu no i wuz rite about yestaday.

    brings out da catlick in yu. penance, 10 dis an 19 dat, floggin.yoself..

    i figa das da bes way to motivate da St Louis guyz. 😆 .appeal to dare catlickhood.


  48. wafan August 23, 2009 10:12 am


    Sounds devious.

  49. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:14 am

    da catlicks are GUILTY as sin!

    😆 an day hold pride days all da time. :mrgreen:

    not our kine Pride, da odda kine Pride. 😆

  50. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 10:15 am

    Does being an “ophthalmologist”…. mean you’re also an…optimist?!? 🙄 😀 😯

    BTW – don’t you have to go to skool and learn someting about the greek alphabet?…. to become an ophthalmologist, &929:αλπη? Or is that latin? 🙄 😆

  51. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:15 am



  52. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 10:16 am


    What you got to like about this 2009 team thus far during camp is they have field personality. Make no mistake, it is in the nasty category. Not the strut-stuff you see at the foyer of a dorm or the raucous banter you hear at their training table or in their pre-game ha’a rituals– but on the field: with helmet to helmet clunks, body-slams and hand-to-hand grunts….aint that the spirit of the warrior?

    These 2009 warriors have fight….and something more–they are sneaky.
    They arent brilliant nor bad, just sneaky enuff to hammer you with a left hook when you least expect it–on both sides of the ball as well as STs. I suspect, it is the CHEMISTRY betw staff and players that has coalesced into binding this enriched admixture…. an immeasureable subtlety that is difficult to quantify but obvious to recognize… least to bloggers that have thrown away stop watches, boorish stats, depth charts and injury reports. Defining this team doesnt require algebra, it’s astrology with T-leaves and Hawaiian salt….something Nainoa Thompson can understand on starless nights in the doldrums.

    eh, anyone can break down the math–that’s Y we have geeks.
    But go configure the transcendental stuff–u know, the strange bounce of the ball, the pass that gets deflected, the 5th down, the penalty that wasnt called, the Xtra point that hit the cross-bar or maybe the wrong pass-route that was caught for the winning TD ala ASH-of -the-past.

    As H-Hour draws near to our Sept 4th opener and WARRIOR game plans are tweaked and tightened– we should just all focus on ONE team–the Big Bad Bears from Conway, Arkansas.
    We are at 12 days and hours away as warrior countdown continues….take deep breathes and breath in slowly and hold…..relax….and visualize….these guyz, O-D-STs,
    just maybe…. are SNEAKY-good!

  53. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 10:17 am

    😳 &929;αλπη? 😳 🙄 😆

  54. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 10:19 am

    Darn…. even this version of ralph is …. difficult! 😈

    😳 &961;αλπη? 😯 🙄 😆

  55. wafan August 23, 2009 10:19 am


    August 23rd, 2009 at 10:15 am
    Does being an “ophthalmologist”…. mean you’re also an…optimist?!?

    Does that make Ralph a Soroptimist, too?

  56. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:20 am

    Ralph noze how to play

    catch us off gard. 😆 BCS bloggin at its best. :mrgreen:


    Awesome, intimate Cooley interview with Colt who is in his face in the locker room. As I said- Colt is a kid no longer.
    Also interviewing Chase… Cooley, Colt and Chase will look to interview Tom Brady… 😆 the hijinks continue…

  58. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 10:25 am

    Ggggggrrrrrrrr!!!!!! 😈

    ralph..ραλπη..ralph..ραλπη..ralph..ραλπη! 😈 😯 🙄

  59. βρεω808 August 23, 2009 10:26 am

    😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆

    TTTTTTTT.……..AA………NN………NN…..KK.……KK.. ..HH..
    😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆 😀 😆

  60. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:28 am

    no take anymo pot shots at da genius wfanny2.

    his head is on jus right! 😀

  61. koakane™ August 23, 2009 10:35 am

    gooda morning 808, lurker’s, lurkettes, tsaiko’s and tsaikette’s

    good to be living in Hawaii Nei

    Lizk I like one cup kope pleaaaaaaaaaaassssssssssssssssssssseeee

  62. Justin August 23, 2009 10:48 am

    How did Rodney Bradley perform in training camp? Haven’t really heard his name mentioned thus far. I know people were raving about him in the spring.

  63. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 10:53 am

    so is my friend kekoa.

    i figa yu catlick so yu no yu understood da suttletees ah da catlick schoolinz. i figa Mack noze all dat too, he had da Irish pegged. 😆
    an now he get da asst coaches who gettin da gang all wired, an da odda coaches too, day all raisin dare prayer levalz, got da fans really believin too 😀

    i knew it all along. 😀

  64. Pomai August 23, 2009 11:07 am

    bighilofan2 brah you crack me up!!!!!!!!!! give’um

  65. whitey August 23, 2009 11:10 am

    #64, ahhhh, brings back memories of the tv show, “The 64 Million Dollar Show”.

  66. Pomai August 23, 2009 11:10 am

    ST I noticed you refereed to Green as a big back, is 220# considered a big back? Maybe I was spoiled with Regan.

  67. whitey August 23, 2009 11:12 am

    Congrats to the USA LPGA women’s team for winning the Solheim Cup.

  68. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:13 am

    hiya whitey.

    good for da ladies.

  69. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:14 am

    lets all come together this season. 😀

  70. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:15 am

    for the team. :mrgreen:

    for Ralph.

    for Brew.

  71. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:16 am

    rotflmao :mrgreen:

    like a Warrior.

    Sneaky – huh!

  72. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:17 am

    does dat rate an applause, kekoa? :mrgreen:

  73. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:20 am

    kekoa, whitey

    dat was a black diamond, no?! :mrgreen:

  74. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:23 am

    Fadda Kekoa to big hilo

    “fo dat, dat’ll be 1000000 700000000 our faddaz and 4000000000 hail marys.” :mrgreen:

  75. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 11:27 am


    okay okay, I’ll behave.

  76. whitey August 23, 2009 11:36 am

    bhf2, you drinking biru or crown by yourself again?????? you on a roll!!

  77. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 11:48 am

    Being a part of America’s Solheim Cup team wasnt so much a thrill for Michelle Wie as much as it was for this once child prodigy’s sheer joy to have gurlish fun participating in a very unigue European slumber party. She missed this growing up.
    “It’s so much fun getting to know everyone and staying in the same house,” said Wie.

    For once, Michelle felt part of something other than a personalized template for her parents to operate.
    Wie has been reveling in nothing so much as the Solheim Cup camaraderie, which was already in full swing MONDAY as the women, in a departure from what happens in the run up to a Ryder Cup, were treated to a manicure and pedicure.
    “I couldn’t feel prouder than I am, sitting here in this cap and this jacket,” said the Stanford student, showing off the first pieces of the U.S. uniform.

    Meanwhile, the fact that Wie’s parents, B.J. and Bo, were at the back of the room taking pictures of the moment enforced the view that Wie is nowadays rather more than just a fully paid-up member of the LPGA. She sees herself as others are seeing her, as someone who is very much a part of the LPGA community.

    Michelle Wie’s golf career has been defined as much by her boundless potential as by the fact that her parents have orchestrated her every move.
    B.J. and Bo Wie have been criticized for being too involved in their daughter’s professional life, drawing the ire of LPGA Tour vet Dottie Pepper, as well as Michelle’s swing coach, David Leadbetter.

    The Solheim Cup was more than a team victory for Michelle Wie, it was her debut into the LPGA…and her emanicipation as a juvenile. Good for you gurl and keep it kickin! 🙂

  78. Garret August 23, 2009 11:48 am

    Tennessee’s Athletic Department just hired the reporter that was assigned to cover them to write features for their website. So, instead of writing about the University of Tennessee’s sports teams for the main newspaper in that area, he’ll write features for the Athletic Department’s website.

    This is an interesting development and I wonder how many Universities will hire newspaper reporters to write for their websites. Given the financial problems for newspapers today, there are 30-40 Universities that can offer much more money and security…I don’t think that UH has the money to do this now, but you never know what could happen in the future.

    “The SEC and some other big college conferences want to become publishing and broadcasting businesses now,” he said. “It is constructed so the leagues can run their own publicity machines, make money and control their message, control their brand. What that means for the fans is less opportunity to see independent, objective exposure. The leagues will cover themselves.”

    That hit home a few weeks ago when the University of Tennessee Athletics Department hired away our UT football beat reporter, Drew Edwards.

    In today’s tumultuous free-enterprise media world, the News Sentinel couldn’t match the salary and security Edwards could get from the university. He’s now writing features for the UT Web site.

  79. Garret August 23, 2009 11:50 am

    I am *very* happy that things went so well for Wie at the Solheim Cup. She must have had such a great time and has come such a long way in how she is viewed by LPGA members.

  80. royvic August 23, 2009 11:55 am


    Re-The question you asked me pertaining to Boise’s blue field having an effect on visiting players.

    If I were the opposition or protester of Boise’s blue field, like some other team in the WAC, I would say they should gather as much infomation supporting their case saying Boise’s blue field does give Boise’s football team a greater home field advantage, maybe physically or psychologically, and present it to the NCAA.

    Aside from collecting data from as many coaches and players supporting the fact that it does throw the visiting players off their game, I’d also want to speak to the Las Vegas odds makers if they, too, see that Boise’s blue field does gives them an additional edge. I think by talking to the odds makers, experts at handicapping games, would be the most valuable testimony as to whether it does or doesn’t.

    Also I would look at obtaining doctors and scientists testimonies collaborating that Boise’s blue field does or doesn’t give them an additional edge.

    However,putting myself in the player’s shoes I would think playing on a blue field would make it feel strange, and a different color surface would be something the players wouldn’t inherently be accustomed to thus having an effect on their comfort level and routine.

    Furthermore, I think the football field, in general, is part of the equipment and should be neutral, where one team doesn’t have stewardship over the equipment. Boise by having a blue field, is thus having stewardship over the equipment, to me seems like a breach of the rules.

    In conclusion,I think it’ll take someone’s initiative along with the collaborating evidence from doctors, scientists, odds makers and former players supporting the fact that Boise’s blue field does gives their team an additional edge for the NCAA to concede to this oversight of allowing Boise’s blue field over all these years.

  81. Not an Expert August 23, 2009 12:06 pm

    Resonse to 80. royvic

    While you’re at it have the Department of Wildlife check into how many birds have died swooping down on the field thinking it was a body of water.

  82. royvic August 23, 2009 12:07 pm



  83. royvic August 23, 2009 12:13 pm


    If that’s the case PETA should be notified…and shhaasam …green field…watch.

  84. #79 – Garret, after all these years, lomf is a team sport after all!

    Woo hoo, Michelle!

  85. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 12:28 pm

    lomi is a team sport? yah!


  86. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 12:36 pm

    watcha doikng whitey?

    i no mo crown right now, but yo idea of a biru is soundin good.

  87. d1島 August 23, 2009 12:48 pm

    The blue turf stories are mere urban legend; the home dominance is not.

  88. WarriorMojo August 23, 2009 12:50 pm

    ST, hey how come Tank’s “crucible” is in the shape of a cross? It almost looks like a crucifix. ;p

  89. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 12:54 pm

    Bronco BLUE is more a “head trip” than it is a factual impediment….only the birds take it for real.
    REM the Colorado State visiting-team locker room was painted PINK…now, even that got WAG’s attn and conspiracy juices pumpin in indignation and a negative message to his team….then there was the Hawaiian-Haka that polarized the WACy World and fired-up the hangman- benson to write an official hangem-by-neck memo to his football executioners and an advantage-seeking Sweet Dooley Brown to point his finga towards da hill….eh, guyz, chill, unless da donks use Mustard gas, your eyes shouldnt blink at blue.

  90. lava August 23, 2009 12:55 pm

    Interesting points on Boise’s blue field.

    I recall one college team that could no longer distribute the shakers at its basketball games. The details are a little fuzzy. I think it might have been Indiana. I don’t recall if the school took the initiative, or if the NCAA took the initiative. I think the reason for the ban was fairness — the fans would go nuts when someone was trying to make a free throw. Maybe someone hear knows more.

    I’m surprised Boise would even go to such an extreme when it clearly has been the class of the WAC for years. I think as the season goes on, opponents are going to complain.

  91. lava August 23, 2009 12:56 pm

    The blue field is what it is, but I thought the new issue this year was that Boise was going to wear blue tops and blue pants during its home games. If so, that seems to be unfair.

  92. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 1:05 pm

    No more unfair than the Tulane green wave wearing green tops and green pants during its home games….or Hawaii for that matter….c’mon, the game is football, not colors.

  93. Tarai August 23, 2009 1:08 pm

    what if we were to play with the color of the goal post to match the color of the background(fans).we could use a contrasting color to make the posts to stand out-for us. use matching colors to make it harder to see-for opposing team.

  94. d1島 August 23, 2009 1:12 pm

    Blue turf…blue tops…blue pants…blue walls surrounding the field…blue faces on opposing fans waiting for road wins in Boise.

  95. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 1:16 pm

    i tink dat da blue field causes da birds to go contractions, and da behinds open up 5 centimeters as day go da fly byez.

    like when Stepter does da fly bye, da odda guyz go inna contractions.

  96. Ai-Yah August 23, 2009 1:25 pm

    wf2 – we all know you are tight with Boise St and it’s hard when you have emotions involved but it is truly an unfair advantage. Keep an open mind when thinking about it.

  97. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 1:29 pm

    #97 u know nothing–put down ur crack pipe clown–if u dont agree w my post–kool, skip it– but dont write fiction.

  98. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 1:44 pm

    like dis season, anticipating 100

  99. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 1:47 pm

    but no pass da pipr

    keep da prolems to yurselfs.

  100. Jack Flash August 23, 2009 1:49 pm

    #94 Tarai-
    I actually saw that once at an Ohio St. home game I attended. The student section is behind the goal post in the rounded “shoe” part of the stadium. When the opposing team was going for a PAT or a field goal, the students all held up cards that were the exact color of the goal posts. It was hilarious! Didn’t work though…

  101. Stretch August 23, 2009 1:59 pm

    Howzit Tsaikos!!

    Less than 2 weeks and counting!!

    Re: Ha’a – Not sure what to make of this.

  102. royvic August 23, 2009 2:05 pm

    I would bet if the NCAA had the same principals of either NASCAR or the PGA Boise’s field would be green like everyone elses.

    First understand the PGA and NASCAR, for everything is by the book; every thing measured down to the 1/1000 of a cm. Why? To insure the integrity of the game and see that everyone is playing on a even field.

    The principalities of PGA or NASCAR if they were looking at the Boise blue field argument would immediately see that the color of Boise’s field being blue gives their team a boost.

    Why? Because the color blue is indigenous to the team, it’s history, legacy and pride. And the argument could be made that why should one team get an edge… a boost by having the surface painted in it’s school’s colors.

    For the opponents this can be intimidating. And how I see it this shouldn’t be fair. Thats why I’m liking the PGA and NASCARS way of doing things unlike the NCAA.

    note-not disputing Boises home record. They’re a great team. I just want it to be equal for everyone.

  103. royvic August 23, 2009 2:17 pm

    Actually the more I think of this if JD took the initiative and made the arguments that Boise blue field is unfair–and wins– can you imagine how it would give a spark to the current Warriors?

    I think they’d be gushing with pride that someone cares and sees that they get an even field to play on when visitng Boise.

  104. Coqui poke August 23, 2009 2:20 pm

    Maybe the opposing teams can bring dead birds and fling them on the field, nah just the sidelines, before the game or during time outs. Like the hockey games where they toss takos on the ice. LMAO erry time I see it.

  105. Da Punchbowl Kid August 23, 2009 3:40 pm

    “Mistaking it for water, birds have flown into the blue turf. This has never been confirmed. In 2007, Broncos coach Chris Petersen claimed to have found a dead duck on the field, though it is unclear whether or not the duck had mistaken the turf for water.”


    The fact is that the duck flew itself onto that field in a Kamikaze dive to protest the Donkey’s unrelenting cheating ways. The blue turf idea stinks, and I lose a lot of respect for Boise’s otherwise admirable program whenever I think of their field color. Play on a green turf like every body else.

  106. Do people play tournament billiards on different-colored tables?
    Just wondering…


    The Colt Quandry
    Aug 23rd, 2009
    by Rick.

    I think Colt Brennan is showing much more polish than last year. So why is the Washington Redskins quarterback not playing as well as last preseason?

  107. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 3:46 pm


    okay, gonna use sum psychological trainin an backstreet logic.

    1st we go pound BSU right here, start da gushin dis yeha.
    cuz if we no gush em dis yeha, my contralshuns gonna start
    an i won’t care about dare blue field cuz we no mo blue field heha and we neva beat dem heha. i’ll be tinkin next yeha dat da field color is only a play on my mine cuz we neva gush em dis yeha and I’m only making excuses. man up Warrior fans.


  108. Da Punchbowl Kid August 23, 2009 3:49 pm


    The duck’s estate lawyer will be contacting you soon… 😆

  109. Don Weir August 23, 2009 3:51 pm

    Parking Pass Update
    Parking Passes
    Aloha Stadium sends out the parking passes.
    They were supposed to be at UH by the first of the month, then the 2nd week of the month, then last Tuesday, then we received an update; no later than Friday.
    Friday has come and gone and they did not arrive; no one was in the offices on Saturday so perhaps they will come in on Monday.
    Carol and David will be sending them out to you asap; we just need to receive them first.

  110. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 4:10 pm

    I’m not given any duck estate planning tips. i say day go dive bomb da donkeys day 1 and if day no succeeed, den contact me for implant consultation 😯 cuz da Utes would be coming gene’s place! 😆

  111. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 4:20 pm

    like readin on Stephen Stepter. da man wen Crenshaw. 5’9″ #170. we need some hard crackin fo make national tv top 10 hittaz. SS, go go go!
    PS study too. your future depends on knowing life. 😀

  112. Stretch August 23, 2009 4:37 pm

    ST – are practices still going to start at 830 with school starting or are they going to 700?? Just wondering.

  113. Kazz August 23, 2009 4:46 pm

    Hmmm… 2009 sans Ha’a?

    I liked Rocky’s quote about how they’re not concerned with it as opposed to the home opener.

    I, for one never bought into the whole “the Ha’a is a distraction away from football” crap. I guess some people actually believe that the minimal time they spent practicing the dance during time away from meetings and the practice field ***AFTER PRACTICE*** was a factor in some losses last season…

    However, it’s amazing that a sports publication actually voted our three-year tradition of the Ha’a #15 in a listing of the greatest college football traditions of all time.

    So if we cease to perform the Ha’a this year, I will take solice in watching the piss poor imitations of polynesian “war” dances being performed by schools in Texas and New Mexico of all places… 😆

  114. Kazz August 23, 2009 4:49 pm


    Are there going to be any practices on campus this week prior to the closed practice at Aloha Stadium this Thursday?

  115. Kazz August 23, 2009 4:56 pm

    So if the latest looks at fall camp stay true, the starting offensive line looks like this:

    LT: Aaron Kia/Brett Leonard???
    LG: Ray Hisatake
    C: John Estes
    RG: Adrian Thomas
    RT: Laupepa Letuli

  116. BG August 23, 2009 5:01 pm

    OK, had a senior moment (again) and took awhile to find the right place. Dragged this over from the wrong place…duh


    Betty and I were in Hilo for a Friday-Sat fast pitch softball tournament with Hilo, Kona, Kauai, and Oahu…young guys and makule. We can’t say enough about the hospitality, aloha, and fuuud that the local folks put on display. Great folks putting on a thoroughly enjoyable experience. Games went on all day and ended with a massive and ono dinner at the pavilion before we dragged our tired bodies back to the hotel. On Sat morning, Betty and I got up early and headed down to the farmers’ market where we enjoyed walking around and picking up some delicious breakfast. I made it a point to travel by your office on our way back to the park. Betty was duly impressed when I pointed and said, “Big Hilo works there!” Thank you! Thank you for being the spear point for bicycles!

  117. BG August 23, 2009 5:02 pm

    The only thing that upset me when we were in Hilo was the Hilo Hawaiian Hotel did not have wireless wifi. A 3rd party provided rented internet service through a data port which was fine…but who carries around a hard wire connector anymore?!! For 2 days I used my laptop as a paper weight LOL

  118. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:03 pm


    The dead bird found on BSU’s turf has nothing to do with the color.


    It has everything to do with voodoo. You see, it’s the Bronco “JooJoo” (not to be confused with Juju, Jojo, Joje, or Jeje :cool:).

    1) One dead bird.
    2) A piece of another team’s uniform fabric.
    3) A strand of Karl Benson’s ***** hair.

    … and voila… endless home wins!!! 😆

  119. BG August 23, 2009 5:03 pm

    Mahalos to the many contributors for their practice reports! I’m dealing with the age old dilemma…is the offense not looking good because of the abilities of the defense or are they just not gelling yet…or visa versa. Or is it a little of both. Guess we’ll really find out when the lights go on.


  120. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:07 pm

    BG, Kekoa, and SteveM,

    I’m gonna send you emails within the next hour or so.

  121. d1島 August 23, 2009 5:18 pm


    I’m pretty sure practice is back to the 7:00-9:00 schedule as of tomw.

  122. d1島 August 23, 2009 5:20 pm

    …hope that doesn’t mean the Blog Host only sees the last 15 minutes of practice!

  123. isleboy August 23, 2009 5:22 pm

    Greg McMackin has changed the game experience a lot. No pre game player introductions…no pre game music to get the team and crowd excited… no ha’a…

    You ask why…well its HIS Team…..wants the fans to paddle when band plays Hawaii 5-0….is he serious…..wants pre game to be a college experience…..presently everyone sits on their hands waiting for something to happen…..

    Remember when his mis spoke at WAC media conference…he stated that HA’A got Notre Dame mad and they went out and beat Hawaii….come on greg…..Game preparation for Hawaii Bowl was poor….team practiced 8 times….Head Coach missed 2 practices due to graduation and other things… was not properly prepared by coaching staff….dont blame the Ha’a……

  124. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:25 pm


    2 funny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  125. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:33 pm


    you are so right! Coach is not from here. just like anyplace else and people from everywhere else, we all try to feel good about something that is uniquely “us.” the food is us. the look is us. the ha’a is not us. but it has become us. the rest of the nation identifies the ha’a with us, whatever version of the ha’a. like da hula hula, dats us.

    so i understand da seniors from california and elsewhere, they have no ties to us other than they play for us. so I’ll support them whatever they decide.

    but, like Kazz said, a dead ha’a has erryting to do wit voodoo.. 😀

  126. BG August 23, 2009 5:34 pm


    I agree…the mindset for the players should be on the first game. I just hope they also realize the importance of the ha’a (at least to some). I remember the feelings of jealousy when the Alabama’s, Wisconsin’s, and military academies. They had rhythmic clapping and traditional cheers that resounded thru OUR stadium and drowned out our weak sounding “Rain-Bows”. Then, at the Sugar Bowl, we were just as much out-classed in the cheering as we were on the field! Our one great moment was when we stood as one and spontaneously sang “Hawaii Ponoi” a capella. The Georgia fans were hushed as we sang and there was a sense of pride and connection that ran from Warrior fan to Warrior fan. In that moment, I realized that we can’t match the major schools for money and resources…or even traditions. But, our polynesian heritage was a unique difference maker if we used it. I don’t care if it’s the Ha’a or standing on our heads…we need something to call our own.

    Is the Ha’a a distractor? Possibly. But, like many other things, it’s how it’s handled, I believe. How is a newcomers’ talent show related to football skills or jumping off the diving board? It’s a way to bond and gaining acceptance. So is it with the Ha’a. And how would the former players feel if a tradition that they started and nurtured is discontinued?

  127. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:37 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 5:18 pm

    I’m pretty sure practice is back to the 7:00-9:00 schedule as of tomw.


    Hmmmm… I’ll take your word for it, BUT…

    If I am at UH tomorrow morning and I’m left sitting in my car shaking my head to an empty field, it’s your fault!!! 😆

  128. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:39 pm

    Hawaii 5-0 is … old!

    ha’a is current! and it is a game experience. like singing Hawaii Aloha in da Sugar Bowl. that was a game experience.

    and so is Vili. or a new Vili. da pounding of the drums, the face paint, the feeling that we are Warriors. how does that translate to a 5-0 stroke?

    Vili and the ha’a are game experiences. not a slippa 😆 or a jig. 😆

    or sitting on your can in da stadium.

    wanna get the crowd involved? practice to win…

  129. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:47 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 5:22 pm
    Greg McMackin has changed the game experience a lot. No pre game player introductions…no pre game music to get the team and crowd excited… no ha’a…

    You ask why…well its HIS Team…..wants the fans to paddle when band plays Hawaii 5-0….is he serious…..wants pre game to be a college experience…..presently everyone sits on their hands waiting for something to happen…..

    Remember when his mis spoke at WAC media conference…he stated that HA’A got Notre Dame mad and they went out and beat Hawaii….come on greg…..Game preparation for Hawaii Bowl was poor….team practiced 8 times….Head Coach missed 2 practices due to graduation and other things… was not properly prepared by coaching staff….dont blame the Ha’a……

    A lot of people STILL sit on their hands waiting for something to happen. A reactionary approach to fandom as opposed to a proactive one.

    Shoot, people are still filing into the stadium well after kickoff. The Ha’a was great and it HA’A, not the H-A-K-A was ours, it was in Hawaiian, and the movements were based in Hula.

    If it’s gone then I cannot do anyone and neither can we.

    Truth be told, the ONLY tradition Hawaii people are interested in are wins and everything else was a bonus and in a way, there is something pilau and good about that fact.

    It’s good people want to win, but PILAU when the fun things are not appreciated and REAL PILAU when some/most fans do NOT put in their dedication and respect to the program and expect “big time” results… (i.e. Uncle Kimo sitting on his cooler with his arms crossed in his friend’s garage with his USC cap on watching the UH football game and shaking his head and dis and dat and can’t even recall the last time he went to a game at Aloha Stadium but he can recall exactly when and how much he spent and lost on his last trip to Las Vegas… so obviously “Uncle Kimo” is not citing financial issues as to why he is not at Aloha Stadium.)

  130. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:50 pm



    i like give Big Mack a tip. tell da young men to go the extra mile. We deserve it! We deserve to feel good about ourselves. take away from Hawaii something that is Hawaii. Like it or not, the ha’a is now identified as representing Hawaii. and if they don’t get it together until game 5, or game 10, so wat.

    Winners never quit. Quitters never win.

  131. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:53 pm

    Last time I’ll say this:

    The UH football team through 2006 through 2008 NEVER used actual practice minutes to go over the Haka (2006) or tha Ha’a (07-08). N-E-V-E-R!!!

    So when people say that the team should focus on football instead of dancing, they are 99.9% way off. Rocky Savaiigaea’s statement about “focus” on the Central Arkansas game has NOTHING to do with him saying that the “Ha’a” was ever a “BIG” priority over football to this program.

    Again, from what I can recall the Haka (06) and the Ha’a (07-08) were all practiced on AFTER/OUTSIDE practice hours.

  132. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:53 pm


    you are my mind reader. 😀

  133. Kazz August 23, 2009 5:57 pm

    I think there is a feeling amongst the seniors of this team to finish their UH careers in style.

    The last two senior classes went out in a way that was not deserving or reflective of what they contributed as Warriors.

    Was the outcome of the 2008 Sugar Bowl the proper and fitting way for those seniors to finish their careers? Nope.

    Was the outcome of the 2008 Hawaii Bowl the way to send off the seniors of that year. GOOD F**KING GRIEF… HELL F’N NO!!!

    Rocky Savaiigaea, John Fonoti, John Estes, Jon Medeiros, Greg Alexander, and many others will not want to share the same final fate that their teammates before them had.

    At this point, I believe a lot of them would be willing to sacrifice a lot of things to avoid that shame again.

  134. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 5:59 pm

    I’ll give Coach Mack big props for bringing in Coaches Tormey, Shaw and MSmith. He is to be congragulated for his efforts.

    So in the spirit of meaning him very well, not just because he is our leader but also because he is our leader, I’d like to ask him to listen to our volunteer ha’a expertise.

    we need a ha’a coach. 1. get da words down, pass em out, 2. show da video on youtube. i know this is available.

    will one of you help dis bradda out so we can show the Warriors that its not so hard, that their extra effort will help us all get more involved?

    where are these tools located on da internet. 😀

  135. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 6:09 pm

    no blame da ha’a for da Sugar Bowl. Coach JJ was going out da door. Or Florida. We had brand new players, less than 2 months to prep for many of them, new coaches, new team, new this and new that. not the ha’a. the XMas Game. it wasn’t the ha’a. it was summa this and summa that, like Kazz said, and what he and I are too charitable to say aloud.

    but this is a new season. Greg cannot blame the ha’a. Coaches cannot blame the ha’a. they spent squat on the ha’a after hours practicin.
    yet they still scared, or focused, or whateva. so am I.

    we’ve all had our excuses for our lives. us that have lived more than half a century know all about excuses, and some success. some of us have been blessed with success. i’d say the ha’a is one of our successes.

    but I’d understand why somebody who has spent the last 30 years travellin around wouldn’t wanna tie anyting down. and if the result is the win, who am i to argue? but let me put in a word for da ha’a, pretty plz.

    the whole crew no need ha’a. but those that do will drive the rest to join in by game 10. nothing like 20 starting, and watching one more come join in halfway through.

    then we all gonna be … crying… 😀

  136. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 6:11 pm

    ho boy

    i need a ad vili. 😆

  137. Ralph August 23, 2009 6:16 pm

    Isleboy/BigHilo/Kazz he also said that the players will not gather for prayer after the game, something June Jones did. In fact, the first game and maybe a few more, many of the players did not stop for the playing of the Alma Mater with the Rainbow Dancers and Cheer Leaders in the North End Zone. Not only many did stop, they left the field heading to the lockers while our Alma Mater was being player. Auwe. No Ha’a or Haka, no Alma Mater singing, no “respect” for the school, history or culture of Hawaii Nei.

  138. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:18 pm

    Ralph is a big supporter of MW? Ah, you mean former Warrior slotback Michael Washington!

    Good for Ralph!

  139. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 6:24 pm

    read an old article where the ha’a has more words than the haka, so i can understand the negatives. maybe lip sync. 😀

    and last year, after the Notre Dame game as the players were heading into the tunnel, one of the only guyz who looked up at the fans who were yelling for the Warriors, kids and all, was Coach Mack. he got props from me before for that acknowledgment. he’s got some good stuffs going, for sure.

    my encouraging words to him would be to get the UH people to get on the Aloha Stadium Security to keep them from the lower level at the end of the game so that the kids can :”exchange 5s” with the players as they go into the tunnel. The TSA attitude of stadium security almost got me in big trouble last year at the end of a game.

    Trying to encourage fan participation is where its at, imo.

    no make junk, Coach. You doing good in most stuffs. Keep it up.
    No just hang out wit da high mucka mucks, Na Koa, Murphys, like dat.
    Hang wit da slippa crowd. We love you. We know you are one of us, came up from the ranks. talk like us me. Give us some tradition. 😀 Be less of yourself, more of us. 😀

  140. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 6:30 pm

    Practices will be from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., except for Thursday, which will be at the stadium.
    Mack also is considering a night practice at Cooke/Ching field.

  141. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:32 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:16 pm
    Isleboy/BigHilo/Kazz he also said that the players will not gather for prayer after the game, something June Jones did. In fact, the first game and maybe a few more, many of the players did not stop for the playing of the Alma Mater with the Rainbow Dancers and Cheer Leaders in the North End Zone. Not only many did stop, they left the field heading to the lockers while our Alma Mater was being player. Auwe. No Ha’a or Haka, no Alma Mater singing, no “respect” for the school, history or culture of Hawaii Nei.

    Ralph you forgot to mention the FACT that the reason the ONLY game in which the 2008 Warriors did not gather to respect the UH alma mater was in the second home game loss to SJSU in which Coach Mack admitted to directing his players to the locker room ASAP.

    The SJSU loss was horrible and unacceptable so Coach Mack wanted to address it ASAP. Coach Mack went on record to acknowledge this error in his first season as head coach and from then on, EVERY single game, the Warriors respected the UH alma mater AFTER each game regardless of a win or loss.

    As for the prayer after games as well, I am sure Coach Mack is NOT making it mandatory, which is COMPLETLY different from “not gathering”. Again, last season I saw players that wanted to participate in that do so, with usually Tua Mahaley leading the way.

    As far as religion goes, JJ and Coach Mack may have different philosophies with regards to incorporating it with their teams. I’m sure many players on the team have different religious backgrounds and some may not be “Christian” or whatever, so I can see Coach Mack leaving the post game prayer “optional”.

    Third thing, no need for extra “dramatics” by throwing in the “Auwe. No Ha’a or Haka, no Alma Mater singing, no “respect” for the school, history or culture of Hawaii Nei…” stuff at the end of your post.

    Considering the things I mentioned to the contrary about your post, please provide some more solid circumstances that can prove this so-called lack of respect for the school or the history or culture of Hawaii on Coach Mack’s behalf.

    But then again, all things considered…. If Coach Mack led the team to 11-2 or 12-1 last season, I guess to some he could have done away with the green in the uniform, done away with Hawaii Pono i, etc and there would be no talk of this so-called lack of respect for Hawaii…. but I now digress…

  142. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:34 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:30 pm
    Practices will be from 7 a.m. to 9 a.m., except for Thursday, which will be at the stadium.
    Mack also is considering a night practice at Cooke/Ching field.

    Domo arigato!

  143. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 6:35 pm

    It’s actually Raphael Ieru at right guard.

  144. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:35 pm

    Rainbow Wahine in need for a second wind right now….

    Stanford up on the Wahine 6-1 with 16 minutes left in the 2nd half.

    Game is on K-5 right now.

  145. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:38 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pm
    It’s actually Raphael Ieru at right guard.

    My bad, I guess the last few times been seeing Adrian Thomas in that spot.

    But I guess Brett Leonard is making his case for left tackle?

  146. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:40 pm

    BTW, there are fans that should be accused of not respecting the school, the program, or even the state, BEFORE Coach Mack should be.

    (Steps off the soap box and places the safety back on my glock.)

  147. royvic August 23, 2009 6:44 pm


    My idea is have the ha’a, only as a reward.

    Win a game and the preceding game the players do the ha’a.

    Lose a game and the preceding game the players don’t do the ha’a.

    Visualize what this does to the players?

    It makes them strive to win

    Gives them more of a incentive

    Fuels their drive

    Team morale is better

    Builds team chemistry

    Makes the ha’a meaningful

    Fosters positive reinforcement

    The beneficiaries of this system are the players

    For the fans I would think this system would be fun for them too because they’d be rewarded too for a win by seeing the ha’a in the preceding game.

    From the coaches prospective I’d think they’d extract so many good things from the “reward system” as opposed to having the ha’a every game and not challenging the players.

    Having no ha’a is a bad idea

    Because your taking away something from them and it doesn’t build positive reinforcement. I would think morale would suffer.

  148. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 6:50 pm

    Actually, the players are rewarded in a better way:
    If they win, the following Monday they get omelets.
    Steven Omoto is the omelet chef.

  149. Ralph August 23, 2009 6:54 pm

    Kazz no dramatics, i just don’t have the exact date of Mac interview but he did say that the team will no longer have prayers after the game. He did not say that if individual players or a group decide on doing so that he would stop or prohibit it. But he did state that the gathering of the team for a prayer will stop as practiced under June Jones. As for the Alma Mater, I seat in the North End zone like you and I do remain after the game, I can say that a team of 105 players, don’t know how many dress for game, there are not a lot of players joining with cheerleaders in line or group although in the back ground there are players milling around with fellow teammates and their opponents and well wishers who are able to access the field. no dramatics Kazz.

  150. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 6:54 pm


    the best friend i ever had is a guy i disagree with on lotsa stuffs, Gerald.

    He says he’s a independent. I am a independent. akchallly usually I am a democrat and he is a republican. and dis i know to be a true fact, we both look at da same facts and come to different conclusions plenty times. and we both say we got the facts on our side.

    i rationalize his errors this way; in life get a high tide and a low tide. and there is good in both cycles of truth..

    so i say that da birfday boy got summa his facts right. kinda like a republican. he get da first part, not da punchline. 😀

    an i did dat nowin i gonna get iray from da conservative bases….
    kekoa, D1 :mrgreen:

  151. Kazz August 23, 2009 6:54 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
    Actually, the players are rewarded in a better way:
    If they win, the following Monday they get omelets.
    Steven Omoto is the omelet chef.

    Fans are rewarded to on Mondays in the form of a good night’s sleep on Saturday and Sunday nights. 😎

  152. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 6:54 pm

    Anyway, the reason there’s no ha‘a is because the co-writers are gone.
    It takes time to craft the words that match the team.
    After watching the haka performed at a Kahuku camp, JJ wanted it incorporated into his program. So he set aside time for the players to develop a haka and then a ha‘a.

  153. Ralph August 23, 2009 6:57 pm

    Kazz there is no safety on any glock handgun, better check your gun, it may be a soaker instead so check for leaks.

  154. Stephen Tsai August 23, 2009 6:57 pm

    Actually — and I love getting to be the know-it-all today — but Mack didn’t prohibit post-game prayers. He just didn’t want them on the field because it delayed the players getting into the locker room.
    Players still pray.

  155. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 6:59 pm

    learn from the pro, coach.

    Rattle da cage!!!


  156. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:01 pm


  157. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:02 pm

    beef in da nort enzone. 😆

  158. Ralph August 23, 2009 7:03 pm

    This blog has a way of self correcting itself, if not, we know ST will jump in if we get too far off base or people don’t play nice. 🙂

  159. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:04 pm

    wait, gotta go batruum…be right back…. 😆

  160. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:04 pm


    My mistake if my “no dramatics” statment was taken in a poor light. My apologies, my “no dramatics” thing was not intended as a personal thing. It was only directed at the words I read on your post and NOT to the person (you) that wrote them.

    Without repeating what I previously said, I still believe that something Coach Mack “ceasing” team prayers after a game has NOTHING to do with him or anyone on the team “disrespecting” UH or Hawaii and it’s people.

    I just don’t see how it’s disrespectful. JJ led the team prayers and Coach Mack won’t. It’s his choice and at the same time, as you and I have seen, some players still choose to “pray” in a group afterwards and they’re not getting into trouble from Coach Mack for it.

    Again, from my arguements and points in post #142 and this post I don’t see the relation of what you view as disrespect from Coach Mack towards UH or Hawaii in respect to your points in post #138.

  161. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:05 pm

    you talkin to me? you talkin to me? :mrgreen:

  162. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:07 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:57 pm
    Kazz there is no safety on any glock handgun, better check your gun, it may be a soaker instead so check for leaks.

    So I guess it’s not a good sign if the gun’s packaging has a “Ages 5 and Up” label on it then? 😳

    Probably explains the cheap cost and the lack of a background check. 😆

  163. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:09 pm


    No beef in da North end zone… Well, not until the FRESNECKS come to town in October at least… 😈

  164. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:10 pm


    you are right about this. JJ had a near death experience. came close to his God. So far as I know, GM has not had that experience. Those of us who have had near death experiences more often than not tend to believe in the existence of God. jmo.

    so maybe those of us that want to have Coach be more involved in team prayer, need to figure a way to encourage coach to pray. 😆

    a super soaker won’t work. 😆

    but a p’od 330 pounder headed in da wrong direction could do the trick. 😆

  165. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:15 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    August 23rd, 2009 at 6:54 pm
    Anyway, the reason there’s no ha‘a is because the co-writers are gone.
    It takes time to craft the words that match the team.

    Match the team? In the sense that the Ha’a has to match the personalities and the circumstances that team will have to face during the season?

    Wow, I had no idea it was like that. It would have been “ideal” and more simple to craft one general Ha’a for many Warrior teams to use in the future.

    College traditions are usually the same routines passed down over the years… Kinda like that cute little sword twirl thingy the USC condom guy does before every home game… 🙄

    But whatever the fate of the Ha’a, nothing can change the fact that this is still Warrior Football!!!! :mrgreen:

  166. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:15 pm

    missed my calliln. :mrgreen:

  167. Ralph August 23, 2009 7:16 pm

    Kazz no offense taken regards of your feelings, I took it as a way a person expressed his thoughts and no expletive was used and directed toward me so everything cool. It is an open forum, just got to play nice and respect the family paper as ST says it is. The school could use a few more fervent supporters like you and I commend you for being a true Warrior supporter at all times.

  168. whitey August 23, 2009 7:16 pm

    i only testing something

  169. whitey August 23, 2009 7:17 pm

    and neva work

  170. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:18 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 7:10 pm

    so maybe those of us that want to have Coach be more involved in team prayer, need to figure a way to encourage coach to pray.

    NO!!!!! Nothing against “praying”, but this isn’t like convincing a coach to change a team logo or uniform…

    Personally, it’s just flat out wrong to “persuade” someone into a religious belief other than one that may currently have or not have.

  171. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:18 pm

    if we don’t do da ha’a, we gonna run into peeps like da Florida guys befo da game, drinkin biru an referri to us as da hula hula guyz.

  172. Kazz August 23, 2009 7:20 pm


    Dey u go. :mrgreen:

  173. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:24 pm


    you’re right of course. an really, i no care if he prays or not. or if the team prays or not. or if the team does the ha’a or not. really. honest to goodness.

    but i do care if the overall sentiment of Warrior Nation is: junk vibes. dat no can and if a little bending will make have a better vibe, why not?

  174. Ralph August 23, 2009 7:24 pm

    BigHilo I’m always talking to you, cuz i figa somewhere in your statement you got to be asking or answering Kazz and I, just not sure where. My cipher doesn’t transcribe and translate that fast, not sure if the modem is slow, so no tell jokes, i may not laugh until tomorrow and you going feel bad that I neva laugh at your joke.

  175. wafan August 23, 2009 7:25 pm

    Now all we have to do is figure out how to package and distribute the fervor of Kazz, Ralph, bhf2, and everyone else, in a safe and responsible manner.

  176. royvic August 23, 2009 7:28 pm

    Re-Coach Mack

    What impresses me about Coach Mack is that he makes mistakes and quickly fixes them. I hope I don’t end up eating my words because I only want the best for the Warriors.

    But to me it seems like from compared to year one and this year his approach and how he talks with the media (not including the incident) it seems to me he’s becoming a more seasoned head coach in the eyes of the media, public and team.

    How I see it he seems to be doing thinks textbook style, which I would beg to ask him if he’s been reading up on the biographies of all the famous coaches and how they handle their teams. For I see a huge difference in how he’s doing things this year. His demeanor, aura, etc. every things changed from last year.

    I don’t see the smiling coach from last year. What I do see in every interview is a coach getting down to business. I think his players would pick up on this, too. This is good.

  177. whitey August 23, 2009 7:28 pm

    u guys use words i no can undastan

  178. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:32 pm

    biru. you unnerstan biru? 😆

  179. Ralph August 23, 2009 7:38 pm

    Whitey unnerstan mama san wants niko hana

  180. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:44 pm


    i already feel the confidence and the intensity that summa the players are showin and i’m feelin dat way ova here in the back of the south end zone. and that is because the vibrations coming outta Tormey, Shaw and MSmith are already boilin ova onto da odda coaches. the changes in the Oline and the ST are already showing plusses.

    that is good too.

  181. whitey August 23, 2009 7:48 pm

    eh u guys get gud sugestion, goin get 1 biru. thnx.

  182. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:49 pm

    the big guyz are showing respect to Shaw. he’s creating a culture of them believing in themselves. mark my words, coach is making a really good team that’ll knock da socks off da pundits. plus i got faith in GA and da Noke/AG.

    yhou heard it here first.

    37-13, UH over CAU.

  183. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 7:51 pm

    (da extra TD is cuz ST play). 😀

  184. whitey August 23, 2009 7:53 pm

    bhf2, i like your score, but tink goin be mo like 42-7

  185. Garret August 23, 2009 7:57 pm

    Video interview with Colt which shows just how much his INTs are bothering him.

    “It’s, like, embarrassing,” Brennan said, describing what it feels like to throw an NFL interception. “It’s kind of like when you trip and fall when you’re walking, and everyone’s like, ‘I saw that,’. You’re like walking, all cool, and you do that stumble and everyone turns [to] figure out what’s wrong with that guy. You kind of catch yourself and try to not make it look bad. That’s exactly the feeling it is. Just utter embarrassment….Last year I threw nothing but touchdowns. This year I’ve thrown nothing but picks. I mean, that’s football. That’s the way the cookie crumbles….That’s football. I’ve got two more games.”

  186. Garret August 23, 2009 8:01 pm

    The Washington Post seems to be starting a campaign for Chase Daniel to get a shot at the #3 QB spot. It sounds like the first team offense will play a lot in the next preseason game, so both Colt and Chase have to wait until the final preseason game for extended playing time.

    Daniel, a Heisman Trophy finalist last year at Missouri, outperformed incumbent backup Todd Collins (5 of 9, 39 yards with an interception) and incumbent third-stringer Colt Brennan (3 for 5, 42 yards and an interception). And he got rid of any jitters he had

    Daniel was signed as an undrafted free agent. Brennan, a sixth-round selection out of Hawaii in 2008, threw an interception for the second straight week. He is now 7 of 17 for 85 yards in two exhibition games this year, throwing the two picks without a scoring pass. That adds up to an abysmal 17.7 passer rating. Last year, Brennan caused excitement in the preseason when he went 36 for 53 (68 percent) for 411 yards with three touchdowns and no interceptions.

    Zorn said Campbell, whose passer rating in five series is 43.1, and the starting unit will play at least a half in Friday’s exhibition game against New England at FedEx Field. A decision on whether Daniel has a chance to beat out Brennan for the third quarterback spot likely won’t come until the final exhibition game, Sept. 3 at Jacksonville.

  187. Garret August 23, 2009 8:07 pm

    Anyway, the reason there’s no ha‘a is because the co-writers are gone.
    It takes time to craft the words that match the team.
    After watching the haka performed at a Kahuku camp, JJ wanted it incorporated into his program. So he set aside time for the players to develop a haka and then a ha‘a.

    Thank you for the info, ST. I remember that the ha’a was customized during 2007 and 2008, but didn’t realize that was a big problem for future versions of the ha’a. If there isn’t anyone to write a ha’a for this year’s team and they cannot use past ha’a versions, then I guess there really cannot be a ha’a this year.

    If I remember correctly from your articles over the past few years (I could look it up but I’ve had a long day), the Warriors were learning the ha’a during free time in training camp. When the whole team is together in the dance studios, that gave a perfect opportunity to learn the ha’a (and haka before that) together. If they haven’t practiced while they were all together for training camp, I don’t see when they will find the time now that school is about to begin and the season is about to start.

  188. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 8:08 pm


    i asked fortune teller online to answer a “yes/no” question.

    question: 9/4/09, UH Warriors v. Central Arkansas University football game, UH wins, yes or no?

    answer: the outcome you seek will come to pass.

    Day you go. 37-13 UH wins. :mrgreen:

  189. Garret August 23, 2009 8:13 pm

    This Miami Herald reporter has reviewed each preseason game tape at least 3 times and discussed why Miami hasn’t picked a starting WR to go along with Ginn. Bess dropping passes at this rate is really unusual for him…I hope that it doesn’t cost him the starting job and huge contract at the end of the year. Miami drafted WRs in the 3rd and 4th rounds (Turner and Hartline) and the WR that beat out Bess in training camp last year (Camarillo) is also competing for the job, so there isn’t much margin for error.

    Despite being practically invisible we all know Ginn will be a starter this season. So my question is who is the other starting receiver?

    Davone Bess? Greg Camarillo? Brian Hartline? Patrick Turner?

    The point I’m making is it is wide open and unresolved. Everyone expected Camarillo or Bess to be the other starter by virtue of their superior experience. But that superior experience has been unspectacular in the preseason.

    Bess caught one pass and dropped one pass against Carolina. The week before he had two catches and two more drops. Dropping as many passes as one catches is not the way to win a starting job.

  190. Garret August 23, 2009 8:16 pm

    I really don’t care about the margin of victory against Central Arkansas. All I care about is a win and no serious injuries. Injuries right before the 3-game road trip could be extremely costly, so I’d be much happier with a 1-point win and no injuries than I would with a 40-point win and even just one starter injured.

  191. Garret August 23, 2009 8:24 pm

    Of course it would be nice if the Warriors could win comfortably and not make things too tense for the fans. One huge benefit for that would be that more players would get a chance to play–so many players haven’t played for UH before and it would be good to let them show what they can do on the field.

    This would be especially important for the coaches when they are making out the travel roster after the Central Arkansas game tape is reviewed.

  192. Garret August 23, 2009 8:26 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    Interesting summary of the decline in net worth of the super-rich. John McAfee (the founder of the antivirus software company) went from a net worth of over $100 million to $4 million, forcing him to sell his 10-passenger Cessna jet and fly coach instead, and to auction off all of his big properties to get cash to pay his bills.

  193. Garret August 23, 2009 8:27 pm

    Identity fraud is at its highest level in five years, but human error apparently results in most of these cases and not hackers. This article also has some pretty bizarre cases of personal information getting leaked–a Virginia gas station attendant refilled the receipt printer with a used roll that had prior customers’ credit card data printed on the back, a New York community college mailed 14,000 alumni magazines with the recipients’ Social Security numbers printed on the back, and the State of Louisiana mailed 150 tax-bill reminders with a second taxpayer’s data on the back!

  194. Garret August 23, 2009 8:27 pm

    70% of American children don’t get enough vitamin D, which has a variety of negative health effects for them when they are children and may increase their risk of developing diabetes, high blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, and a variety of cancers. One problem is that parents are much more worried about skin cancer and are so diligent about putting sun block on kids that kids cannot generate vitamin D from being in the sun.

  195. Garret August 23, 2009 8:27 pm

    Study of brain neurons seems to indicate that we actually learn more from success than failure.

  196. Garret August 23, 2009 8:28 pm

    Survey found that 2/3 of women in the US would marry an average-looking person that they liked (but did not love) if he was worth $1.5 million. Half the men would marry a woman they didn’t love if she was worth $1.5 million.

  197. Garret August 23, 2009 8:28 pm

    Free play links pau.

  198. bighilofan2 August 23, 2009 8:32 pm

    okay, gotta hit da hay.

    but befo i go, wuz lookin up Central Arkansas University Football Blogs. I woulda been da first to chat. i taut dat virtue was da betta part of valor, bit my tongue an decided not to rile up da honeybares jus yet. 😀

    good nite Warrior Nation. Sweet Dreams. zzzzzzzzzz

  199. BG August 23, 2009 8:34 pm


    Are you related to ralvic (or similar)? I kinda remember that name from the past but can not really remember! I’m only asking in all innocence so no get mad. The last time I said that someone must be related to someone else it initiated a shooting match…auwe. Anyway, welcome royvic! Liked reading your posts.

  200. BG August 23, 2009 8:35 pm

    Doing an Esme again…Betty not feeling so good.


  201. Jack Flash August 23, 2009 8:40 pm

    Purely from a marketing standpoint, now is not the time to stop doing the ha’a or haka. One thing June Jones did was brand this team on a national scale. ESPN loves showing clips of our Warriors doing their pregame warchant. If we lose this, we will lose marketshare. Remember, prior to June getting here, no one on the mainland really gave a crap about Hawaii football.

  202. royvic August 23, 2009 8:42 pm

    Me? I rather see UH slaughter CA. I think a big win would boost the team’s confidence as they go on their 3-game road trip. I think getting as many players into this game would pay dividends. It would also answer a lot of a critic’s claims that the Warriors are weak. With the offense and defense meshing it would pave the way for Warriors to even getting more creative on offense in future game. A big win also give the Warriors future opponents a lot to think about. All phases of the game-offense, defense, special team shining in this game would be huge.

    A slim margin of victory by the Warriors, like one point, I would feel sick. Because this will tell me that the Warriors aren’t clicking on all cylinders, with maybe the offense sputtering like it did in a few games last year. A not so convincing victory would still mean that the Warriors have a lot of problems to fix.

    Log it down, 37-13 UH wins.

  203. royvic August 23, 2009 8:44 pm

    Log it down, 37-13 UH wins=meant to say 67-13

  204. Kazz August 23, 2009 8:58 pm

    If there was going to be a Ha’a this season, I already assumed Aaron Kia would be front and center leading the team on it!

  205. Ralph August 23, 2009 8:58 pm

    ditto Jack Flash June Jones started branding UH and made changes, made waves, but it brought publicity, higher sales of logo items, and it was an attempt to bring the community into the UH football family. He is doing it at SMU with a new slogan this year,and a hip hop artist, Young Jeezy to do the tunnel entry with the fb players. UH going back to Hawaii 5-0 and maybe a paddling motion to get the fans involved. Will it be enough, time will tell.

  206. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:01 pm

    will ESPN show the UH band playing Hawaii 5 0 and the students doing the paddling motion, in 12 days will find out when the players come out of the tunnel.

  207. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:02 pm

    Sheraton Hawaii Bowl on tonight at 10 pm ESPNU 219

  208. Branding and marketing aside…
    The Warriors must become UNIFIED.
    They must BELIEVE that THEY CAN and THEY WILL.

    Music – drumming – chanting – praying – singing – jumping up and down in a scrum and going woof woof woof – stimulates the neurons and has an effect on the nervous system. It brings FOCUS.

    Taking music of some sort out of the game is like taking music, athletics and the arts out of our schools and expecting our kids to excel in math, language and science.

    If it is paddling to Hawaii 5-0 … so be it… it would be a demonstration of UNITY and SUPPORT for the WARRIORS (and I HATE that chopping motion at some schools- but it is effective).

    Just PICK something, ANYTHING, and LET’S DO IT!!!

  209. Ralph August 23, 2009 9:33 pm

    Liz you’re in the lower bowl with curveball, imagine if both of you start doing Tsai’s version of tricky or low, low, low, you can start the excitement amongst the students.

  210. Kazz August 23, 2009 9:44 pm


    August 23rd, 2009 at 9:02 pm
    Sheraton Hawaii Bowl on tonight at 10 pm ESPNU 219

    Better be from 2006. If it’s 2008, I’ll pass… Pass like a kidney stone or hard stool. 👿

  211. al August 23, 2009 9:47 pm


    tuesday cattle call
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    golden coin restaurant waipahu
    refer to map:

    filipino cuisine (and limited “safe” food items)
    counter service, pick your own entrees.
    moderate prices
    for more info please call 680-0758

    rsvp here please.
    seating will be in the back area ask for al’s table

  212. al August 23, 2009 9:50 pm

    oops… supposed to read

    no forget….

  213. whitey August 23, 2009 9:51 pm

    al, you coming this week to maui???????

  214. NYUH August 23, 2009 10:20 pm

    Watching the Notre Dame game on ESPNUHD

  215. warriorfanny2 August 23, 2009 10:21 pm

    The haka/ha’a was JJ’s thing and it fit the style of his teams.

    In the best of worlds the haha would be a wonderful tradition for the team to continue, but it appears this team is struggling with it.
    Im not sure that MAC is sure about anything let alone a culturally sensitive ritual such as the ha’a.
    We need a head football coach not a malihini-choreographer attempting to insert a delicate native Hawaiian ritual he knows nada.
    If it aint done with respect and pono, its no better than our plastic warrior of yesteryear–which was a plastic sears sucker and embarrassment to Hawaiian culture.

    I’d rather MAC focus on his staff and daunting task-at-hand without having to worry about things above his head.
    Yeah, it’s more than he can handle.
    Look how long it took him to get his sideline lei straight.

    Im tired of him apologizing for gaffs and just want him to focus on his primary job and get that straight, bc he needs to cut bait soon–in many areas.
    The bottomline, MAC needs to win and that is how he will be judged.

  216. al August 23, 2009 10:42 pm

    to ha’a or not to ha’a
    das the real question.

    my take….so no take offense.

    i think that the ha’a is something unique and hawaiian.
    they should, if they do, create the ha’a for all times. no make changes every year. let it be what it is in perennial tradition. just like the alma mater or the national anthem never changes.

    so if no one on the current roster has the background to create this ha’a for the ages then call upon kaiilimoku, watson, et al to establish one, but, the captains have got to be the ones to lead it every game.

    they could practice this for 30 minutes after practice every day.

    and if no one wants to take the initiative then all’s i can say is “auwe”

  217. Caterers Northern Beaches August 23, 2009 10:44 pm

    Surprised Boise would even go to such an extreme when it clearly has been the class of the WAC for years. I think as the season goes on, opponents are going to complain.

  218. lava August 23, 2009 10:44 pm

    I agree with Jack Flash. ESPN loves the dance, and regularly shows clips of the guys.

    Mac is behind JJ on the marketing learning curve. I’m not sure Mac even cares. If he did, how can you turn your back on the dance now that ESPN loves it so much.

    Where is Villi in all of this? I would think are mascot would think this talk of abandoning the dance is not good.

    Not point in the dance, however, if the players’ hearts are not in it. Don’t need to be going through the motions. Plenty of chances later in life to do that.

  219. lava August 23, 2009 10:47 pm

    I looked at the rules today, and I didn’t see anything to stop Boise, so it will take a new rule. I wrote to a rules guru on the subject for his opinion.

    I can tolerate the blue field or the all blue uniforms, but not both in the same game.

  220. Sunshine #210 – noted.

    Nitey nite and SWD!

  221. al August 24, 2009 12:04 am

    sorry whitey…didn’t see your earlier post.
    i have to run in wednesday, yes. not sure how long i’ll be there, but, i call you guys.

  222. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 12:09 am

    I agree with the marketing thought. and i agree the ha’a should be one kine fo all time. an an not use plenny words.

    sumtin like

    ai i ke kukai a me make.

    pronounced “eye ee kay kuu kai
    ah me mah kay”

    “eat $h*t an die, $ucka”….

    go along way fo marketing 😆

    course, prolly get sum odda mo dignified words an phrases. :mrgreen:

  223. 99club August 24, 2009 1:36 am

    Good morning Tsaikos-

    A possible reason for no ha’a (yet):
    Some may be considering the possibility that every time ESPN showed our Warriors performing the ha’a the announcers would refer back to Mack’s comments that got him into hot water. I could understand not wanting to pick that scab over and over again, if that was the reason for not performing it.

  224. Pomai August 24, 2009 4:30 am

    Ha’a – It should be left up to the players, if they decide to do it, then do it right. But for them as lava said to just go through the motions, then IMHO this is very disrespectful to the Hawaiian culture and to the Hawaiian’s themselves. It is not something that should be taken lightly.

  225. Garret August 24, 2009 5:07 am

    Great to read that David Veikune is doing so well!

    Rookie LB David Veikune had a great practice, getting pressure all afternoon long. Dawg Scooper reports that he was playing middle linebacker with the second unit and ended up recording three sacks.

  226. Garret August 24, 2009 5:09 am

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  227. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 5:15 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    Good ones Garrett.

  228. jm2375 August 24, 2009 5:53 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!

    Happy Monday. Everyone ready for the traffic jam today? Or is that where everyone is already – stuck in it?

    Can you believe Wahine vb starts this weekend? Auryte!!

  229. Aloha Kakahiaka!
    Yup- Kauai roads will be Jam’d too!!!


  230. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:06 am

    we need a 15 second ha’a.
    i had a vision last nite. 😀
    da voices said:

    We are Warriors.
    proud to represent Hawaii
    shove our foes aside
    together, to victory.
    together, to victory
    ok ok
    dat jus came to me ova a cupa kope. 😀

  231. duffer August 24, 2009 6:09 am


    Braddah bhf2,

    I mailed a check on Friday, can you please let me know when it arrives? Got something for you in there! 🙂

    Good Morning Tsai-kos……………..

  232. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:15 am


    howzit. yup, will look at watcha got an report back dis evening to efrybody. had da most enjoyable time last eve watching mma right heha. wuz wondrin if wuz gonna get body slammed but dis greasy bugga wen slip outta da wayz ah harm. 😀 taut fo sure Kekoa was gonna nock me out. 😀

    he must be helping BG tend to Betty. g’mornin BG.

  233. d1島 August 24, 2009 6:16 am

    Great Morning All!

    Unfortunately, the Ha’a/No Ha’a decision might turn into a lose/lose with some fearing that continued blowback from Mac’s media day fiasco will result in continual references everytime UH plays a nationally televised game:

    if they do, the story is, “this is the thing he was referring to when he said what he said”;

    if they don’t, the story is, “they stopped doing it because he said what he said”

    Either way, “lose money!” 🙄

  234. d1島 August 24, 2009 6:20 am

    Have a terrific day erryboddy!

    Beat da School Jam (which beats da Toe Jam anyday!)


  235. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:23 am

    you going stop having sex fo da rest of yo life jus because yu flubbed, blew, messed it up one time? 👿


  236. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:25 am


  237. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:42 am

    nice reading reviews of Wassu and UNLV. Thread thru Tombo Ahi.

    also nice readin CAU tryin fo pump dare purple pants up.
    Homey gonna love dare colors. 😀 Esme too. 😀 A Joe gonna feel jus like home wen you see dare unis.

  238. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:43 am

    i guess you guyz all mus be drivin in traffic fo watch practice. 😀

  239. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:43 am

    going fo da record.

  240. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 6:45 am

    na na na

    have a great day everybody. will be back this evening with a full report.

  241. haka August 24, 2009 6:49 am

    WTF2 # 216
    So you are tired of Coach McMackin. You seem to be tired…period. You’re entitled to your opinion for sure. That said, personally, I am tired of your negative posts. I think you should get off your high horse, get the burr out from under your saddle and get out of town. Your antagonistic, sarcastic banter is tiresome and quite frankly, adolescently ignorant. Just my humble opinion. Not looking for a blog battle. If you do not like my post please ignore it. Mahalo!

    Go Coach Mack!
    Go Warriors!

    “MAC needs to win and that is how he will be judged.”
    My opinion is that all head coaches are judged by this criteria or they are relieved of their duties.

  242. djmitcho August 24, 2009 6:53 am

    Good Morning Everybody…back to da grind today. Hope everyone makes it through the work week. Have a good one today!

  243. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2009 7:11 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

  244. bighilofan2 August 24, 2009 7:13 am

    a tad bit earlier woulda made da difference. thats football.

    like somebody mentioned earlier, coach Mack is acting like its all business this season. Good for him.

    I join in saying

    Go Coach Mack.

    Go Warriors!

  245. Slugger August 24, 2009 7:15 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka kakou!

    It’s going to be fun to watch Alex Green this year. For a big back, he can hit the perimeter quickly. And he’s a threat as the backup wildcat. What’s more, as the offset returner, he gets to hit the gunners on kick returns.

    Remind me to ask what this means at the Wahine Clinic. I just like to watch Alex run & get through the crowd. He’s goooood!

  246. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2009 7:23 am

    # al:
    August 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    to ha’a or not to ha’a
    das the real question.

    my take….so no take offense.

    i think that the ha’a is something unique and hawaiian.
    they should, if they do, create the ha’a for all times. no make changes every year. let it be what it is in perennial tradition. just like the alma mater or the national anthem never changes.

    so if no one on the current roster has the background to create this ha’a for the ages then call upon kaiilimoku, watson, et al to establish one, but, the captains have got to be the ones to lead it every game.

    they could practice this for 30 minutes after practice every day.

    and if no one wants to take the initiative then all’s i can say is “auwe”

    Sometimes you post some very smart things.

    The only things I would add to the posts on the subject is that we need to remember that when it’s taught and performed properly, the Ha’a prepares the players for “battle” and serves to focus and unify the team. While these things may seem to be redundant to traditional coaching goals, the Ha’a definitely has a powerful “ritual” effect and can be helpful to the team. It certainly was in JJ’s day.

    And the Ha’a is a nice island tradition/branding device. I hope they think hard before discarding it. They need to separate the Ha’a from the press conference incident. I suspect that’s why they are reluctant about doing it now.

  247. addahknowjoe August 24, 2009 7:34 am

    Gmorning gang!

    Here’s wishing all of you to having a great start to this week!

    I love seeing everyones excitement! It’s contagious!

  248. Pride. August 24, 2009 7:43 am

    Neva mind da ha’a. Just go out on da field and kick da oddah guy’s okole. Wanna get excited? Just have Blaze dicapitate da opposing QB, eveybody goin get excited. Too much worrying about what color da field and to ha’a and no ha’a. Just watch as Meatoga and Savaiigaia stuff everybody at the line of scrimmage, dat goin get you all excited. No neeed da ha’a. You like tradition? Have da defense hit da crap out of people, das one tradition.

    Sorry, if I offended anybody, just my two cents.

  249. Pomai August 24, 2009 7:44 am

    Does anyone know if they are going to let you download this years media guide?

  250. haka August 24, 2009 7:48 am

    Pride…Love it!

  251. Kekoa August 24, 2009 7:51 am

    Good Monday Morning Everybody!…(and you 2 Big Hilo Noisy!)

    I roll ova in da bed and I hear all dis Hilo Vog rolling in from da South. Den wen you mix ’em all up like chop chai, I’m tinkin’ wat ta heo is dis bicycle man talkin’ about! I gotta wait fo da full report, dis outta be good!

  252. letsgowarriors August 24, 2009 7:54 am

    depth chart?

  253. tommui August 24, 2009 8:10 am

    PRIDE: You da man!

  254. warriorfanny2 August 24, 2009 8:18 am

    Haka, the day i get out of my homeland for u, hell will freeze over–and while u tell me to ignore ur personal attack for my opinion u dont follow ur own advice. what a hypocrite!
    dont read my posts, but the reason u do is bc u cannot handle opinions that differ from ur own simpletons and for some jevenile reason u feel threatened what i write.
    afraid of differing opinion?
    ur monotone and boorish w a predictable and limited mindset.
    Look, you r a koolaid-abuser and obviousily have a mancrush–go 4 it, dont let me or anyone else get in ur way!

  255. Kekoa August 24, 2009 8:22 am

    Kazz ~ In answer to your email yesterday, we will tailgate at Cabana A. For those who want to come early, please come on down. We should be fully charged at 11:00 AM.

    The password to get thru TSA security remains the same. I know everyone has serious issues with the day and time of the game, but please come if you can and enjoy a brief respite before heading into the stadium.

    We will be keeping the fire burning for some serious grillin’ throughout the day. Meanwhile Al is bringing his shoes to throw out the 1st horseshoe challenge of the season.

    Calvin from Kona will be there to dazzle everybody with his Greg Salas impression. (One better actually…his one hand catch of the football with a beer can in the other hand makes Homey try as hard as da Coyote chasing da RR).

    Join us as we gather for the season opener and pose for our annual Tailgate mug shot taken with the faithful followers of the Warrior Beat.

    Tune in to SteveM’s site for maps and helpful information. There will be a slight location change for the next t-gate.


  256. haka August 24, 2009 8:33 am


  257. Darren August 24, 2009 8:38 am

    Defensive starters pegged in ST’s tweets.

  258. LizKauai August 24, 2009 8:39 am

    256- stfu…

    On another note- I am going to be a tutu again! Lilu will be a big sister in April sometime. Oh, and I will be starting the quilt sooner. Make the ONE quilt… not twins.

  259. Kekoa August 24, 2009 8:41 am

    haka ~ Be Cool! 😎 This too shall pass.

    Let’s Go Warriors!

  260. haka August 24, 2009 8:45 am

    Kekoa, I’ll be cool, but this trolling thing is kinda fun…albeit juvenile…Hana Pa’a!

  261. Kekoa August 24, 2009 8:51 am

    So Lizzie…you are playing the Tutu card eh?! Sorry, kona hafta see your next mo’opuna, and raise you one Great-Grand in October!

    Hmmm…looking to the future. I noticed there’s a good kicker at Kamehameha, who just happens to be a girl!

  262. Kekoa August 24, 2009 8:53 am

    haka ~ Great altitude adjustment. Fly above the noise!

  263. LizKauai August 24, 2009 9:08 am

    Great-grand… ‘fraid I’m going to have to wait awhile for that one. My kids tend to marry late and have kids later!
    Oldest moopuna is 15… hmmm…

    I like that- a wahine Warrior prospect. 😆

    haka- you got it right… I’ll follow your lead with the angler fish (til the next time)… 😈

  264. (Jesse) James August 24, 2009 9:09 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….hope all have a good day…

  265. WF3 August 24, 2009 9:24 am

    Some people don’t understand the meaning of the word “civility”.

  266. haka August 24, 2009 9:40 am

    It is more rewarding to tag and release! 🙂

  267. warriorfanny2 August 24, 2009 9:42 am

    There are many in this town that feel MAC threw the ha’a under the bus as sign of penance for his PR gaff concerning his ND comment….personally, I would, like many others, see the ha’a continue as a viable game ritual, whether it occur prior or post game.. the reasons have been articulated well by other posters on this blog who want the ha’a to remain a tradition of warrior football.
    But, given the totality of circumstances that surround the opening of this season and in preference to our focus on its success–the best option, imo, is to let all this stuff blow over and concentrate on our main team mission–winning.
    That was my thesis in 256. Let MAC off the hook, but not without a wrist slap. Hell, his comment hurt the whole program and embarrassed the State–Y the hell should I leave Hawaii as one poster suggested–of all the gull and stupidity. MAC is the one who cried before a national audience and begged forgiveness–get it straight.
    The “throw the ha’a under the bus” does have merit, but team success has priority, not MAC’s gaffs.

    The problem with some posters on this blog is they cant take varying opinion or style and a few tend to be incestuous if not intolerant in their views.

    I dont care about differing opinion, but it does rub me the wrong way when posters launch personal attacks on others or myself and cry wolf.
    U dont have to be a dick tracy to realize that this blogsite is not played on a level field and is tilted towards a subgroup.
    Further, there is a indigenous “policeforce” among this subgroup that loosely monitor, censor, belittle and yes, delete, those that dare to offer contrasting opinion through a personal prism of unique experience and/or objectivity.
    C’mon, you know, CC aint all fuud–there are also discussions about “cleansing” the site and keeping it in-line with their self-proclaimed views.
    Like I said, go for it, but dont personally false-crack posters and then cry wolf when they slam back.

  268. cavewarrior August 24, 2009 9:42 am

    Checkout JJ and SMU practice where former Pres George W addressed the team…Pretty cool pics!…and its not Geo Washington 🙂

    GO Warriors!!!

  269. Kazz August 24, 2009 9:42 am

    OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I WOKE UP LATE!!! (just now)…

    So stupid because my alarm was going off at 5am and I’m in bed thinking: “Why did I set my alarm when I am on vacay thru Wednesday?”…

    I’m an idiot. 😳

    Oh well there is still tomorrow.

    So, did anyone make it out there for practice this morning?

  270. Kazz August 24, 2009 9:44 am

    Kekoa, thanks! I got some e-mails confirming the same from BG and SteveM this morning.


    Will send out mass emails as usual by this afternoon, if not tomorrow afternoon.

  271. Stretch August 24, 2009 9:49 am

    August 24th, 2009 at 9:42 am
    … C’mon, you know, CC aint all fuud–there are also discussions about “cleansing” the site and keeping it in-line with their self-proclaimed views…

    I know you have been personally invited and never have shown yet. You are always welcome to join us at a CC. Please don’t put us down and guess what happens at a CC until you have come out of hiding and joined us.

  272. Kazz August 24, 2009 9:52 am

    I got my biases as I’ve mentioned before, but I am sure Vaughn Meatoga is not far behind either Savaiigaea or Tufaga in the DT rotation anyway.

    Same will probably go for Jake Huen involved in the middle LB rotation behind Mana Lolotai.

    I know ST hasn’t posted the offensive starters on his Twitter updates yet so let me have a crack at it:

    LT- Aaron Kia
    LG- Ray Hisatake
    C- John Estes
    RG- Raphel Ieru
    RT- Laupepa Letuli

    However I swore I saw some mix-ups last week involving Brett Leonard at LT with the rest of the starting unit and Adrian Thomas at RG with the starting unit as well…

    QB- Greg Alexander
    HB- Leon Wright-Jackson
    RWO – Jovonte Taylor
    RSB – Kealoha Pilares
    LSB – Greg Salas
    LWO – Rodney Bradley

  273. haka August 24, 2009 9:53 am


    Somebody doesn’t take criticism well.

    Somebody better take a look in da mirror.

  274. Kazz August 24, 2009 10:06 am


    Speaking of impressions… I’ve been working hard on my Cal Lee and Bob Wagner ones so I’ll bust them out this season.

    JJ impresssion = boring and too easy. All you gotta do is scratch your chin or cheek once in a while.

    Coach Mack impression = too hard for me to get his “accent” down. I can get it for a few words then lose it. Still wanna see Rick Taylor’s Coach Mack impression on film one day.

  275. haka August 24, 2009 10:07 am

    I don’t know about the pH…d? of #269’s thesis, but rumors of the acidity with posters that rub people the wrong way on an uneven playing field while false cracking innocent bystanders is totally unfounded. IMHO 🙂

  276. letsgowarriors August 24, 2009 10:11 am

    dont matter who the starters for DT are, we’ll be rotating 5 guys anyway…


    idk who the 5th guy will be, either haku or hanohano.

  277. LizKauai August 24, 2009 10:12 am

    It’s only smeagol talking to gollum…

    life goes on. Kazz is doing impressions???

    btw,,, sungod is a fb friend now 😎

  278. Pride. August 24, 2009 10:21 am

    Who’s sungod?

    I only know of one GOD.

  279. Pride. August 24, 2009 10:22 am

    Just joking Liz.

  280. LizKauai August 24, 2009 10:22 am

    From ExtremeSkins:

    OT but since so many Hawaii Skins fans frequent this thread, thought I’d post it here. Time to Hui and Kokua for Braddah KP this coming Sunday in Honolulu. Some of you older Skins fans may remember Karl ‘KP’ Lorch #71 who was a Redskin DE from 1976-1981. KP has been battling colon cancer and a large fundraiser to defer his medical costs will be held @Rumours Nightclub in the Ala Moana Hotel on Sunday Aug. 30th from 4-9pm This is an adults only event and there will be doorprizes and entertainment. Tickets are $25 at the door. KP was a Kamehameha Warrior Class of ’68, there will be many Warriors there as well as USC Trojan Alums.

  281. Pride. August 24, 2009 10:32 am

    Who’s KP?

  282. LizKauai August 24, 2009 10:37 am

    Karl Lorch (Karl P. Lorch, Jr.) was born on June 14, 1950 in Honolulu, Hawaii. After going to high school at Kamehameha (Honolulu, HI), Lorch attended Arizona Western JC and the University of Southern California. Lorch made his professional debut in the NFL in 1976 with the Washington Redskins. He played for the Washington Redskins for his entire 6 year career.

    Most people believe that 1979 was Karl Lorch’s best year, as he ran back an interception for a touchdown and recovered 3 opponents fumbles.

  283. Pride. August 24, 2009 10:40 am

    Thank you Liz?

  284. Da Punchbowl Kid August 24, 2009 10:40 am

    Karl Lorch

  285. d1島 August 24, 2009 10:44 am

    WFL Hawaiians

  286. Pride. August 24, 2009 10:55 am

    1982 Green Bay Packers
    1983 – 1986 Chicago Blitz/Arizona Wranglers

  287. Pomai August 24, 2009 10:57 am

    #273 – Amen

    Have only been to three so far and that has not happened, warriorfanny2, believe me it’s not what you say it’s how you say it.

  288. al August 24, 2009 11:08 am

    chee braddah you way off base on this one.

    C’mon, you know, CC aint all fuud–there are also discussions about “cleansing” the site and keeping it in-line with their self-proclaimed views.
    Like I said, go for it, but dont personally false-crack posters and then cry wolf when they slam back.

    anyway, how can you qualify, justify, or quantify your statement here when you haven’t had lunch with these guys?

    why don’t you come on down? no one, i promise you, will lambast you.

    oh, no the cc’s are not a higher order of council for the warrior beat.

  289. al August 24, 2009 11:15 am

    no forget…..

    tuesday cattle call
    12:00 pm
    golden coin restaurant waipahu
    refer to map:

    filipino cuisine (and limited “safe” food items)
    counter service, pick your own entrees.
    moderate prices
    for more info please call 680-0758

    rsvp here please.

  290. al August 24, 2009 11:16 am

    i noticed that our front seven are all local boys.

    plus, a db or two?

  291. Pride. August 24, 2009 11:17 am

    Where’s grandpa? He still at practice?

  292. LizKauai August 24, 2009 11:27 am


    Colt is Colt… refreshing!

  293. al August 24, 2009 11:45 am

    actually i am not a grandpa.
    don’t let my premature greying hair fool you.

  294. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 24, 2009 11:49 am

    Al: I’ll stop by between appointments. As long as there’s coffee and an assortment of baked goods served and sold, that’s fine. If I eat anything heavier than that, I’ll nod off for the rest of the afternoon.

    It’s been interesting reading the interchanges over the past couple of days on the three topic threads.

    First – the Haka/Ha`a: Has anyone on the coaching staff or even here on the blog considered asking the Kamakakuokalani Center for Hawaiian Studies to provide some support in creating a unique and culturally appropriate chant? The new director whom I heard speak the other evening at a public lecture looks like he might have played some football himself back in the day. Perhaps there might be someone on his staff or a graduate student who would like to help out if the new director can link him up with Coach Mac & Jim Donovan.

    The other two topics can wait.

  295. Unkanesson August 24, 2009 12:36 pm

    To those few to whom it may concern:
    Personal attacks like:
    “…he made you look like a fool…”
    “…You ever realize how vain you are…”
    “…we all know you are tight with Boise St…”
    “…u know nothing–put down ur crack pipe clown…”
    “…ur monotone and boorish w a predictable and limited mindset…”
    serve no purpose other than to make the attacker feel superior by belittling the attackee, regardless of who started it. There are just a handful of people here who can’t seem to resist flaming people like this (these are quotes cut and pasted from recent posts). This type of name calling contributes no more to our discourse than the disruptive rants of people we’ve seen recently at town hall meetings on health care. And it leaves the same bad taste in my mouth.
    Some of you who have lowered yourselves to that level have also made very worthwhile contributions to the discussions here. Please continue to provide that type of positive commentary.
    However, if you can’t resist the urge to flame people like you have, then please find another blog on which to unleash your venom. I’m tired of dealing with it, and I’m sure I’m in the majority, not a “subgroup.”

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