The people's team
When a football team proclaims it is playing for the people of Hawaii, it invites, well, the people of Hawaii, to voice their opinions, suggestions and critiques on which strategies and motivational tools they would prefer to use.
And the voices become louder when an athletic department charges viewers for telecasts, and extra fees for the right to buy seats in specific sections.
The decibel level is highest when an offense struggles against a statistically deficient defense, even after a dramatic victory.
Public opinion factors in the setting of odds, and the expectations are the Warriors should win big. Thing is, the Warriors are a good team, just not a knockout one, not with first-year starters at nine offensive positions, and injuries throughout the depth chart. And while every WAC opponent might not be good, each has some very good players.
What should be remembered is the Warriors reflect Hawaii’s workforce. They get up early, work hard (with many having two jobs), and embrace the aloha concept. In that regard, the Warriors are Hawaii’s team.
Foist.
Nicely stated, Stephen
…hope you returning with all your parts intact! 😆
Have a terrific day erryboddy!
Like the Blog Host says, wake up early and go work!
HiHo….
The Warrior players deserve our respect and support and I hate to see any of them singled out for criticism. I understand how fans get frustrated and need to vent, and ST explained very well above why some may feel entitled to a level of play that is at an unfairly high level.
Sagarin has been updated:
WAC:
44 Nevada
88 La Tech
92 SJSU
93 UH
104 Fresno State
130 NMSU
139 Utah State
166 Idaho
MWC:
6 BSU
39 TCU
68 Wyoming
70 SDSU
90 Air Force
129 UNLV
150 Colorado State
196 New Mexico
Other UH opponents:
26 Washington
59 BYU
134 Colorado
165 Tulane
172 UC-Davis
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm
Congrats to the special teams! Great job getting this win for us!
d1:
The perception is people in Hawaii are laid-back.
I think that doesn’t do justice to Hawaii’s work ethic.
With the economy, I think everyone is working hard to make milk and gas money.
Hawaii is rooted in people who worked hard to make better lives for their kids and themselves.
I think it’s fair to question the results, but not the effort.
Great morning all!
Watching the NMSU-Nevada game it seems the Wolf Pack suffered many injuries. They’re lucky to be getting a bye this week as that will give them time to heal for the game against the Warriors. I’m expecting a big and exciting game.
Go Niners? Yes, GO NINERS!
I think most of the Warrior players that may read this blog shrug of any kind sharp critism. They are like teflon when it comes to harsh comments.
New Coaches Poll is out.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/football/usatpoll.htm
Good stuff, ST! Mahalo!
“Aloha” everyone!
Like I tell my kids in Civics, their rights stop where my rights begin; and, you cannot have rights if you do not know your (civic) responsibilities.
I guess some folks forgot what makes Hawai’i the Aloha State.
Surely they would not want others to anonymously attack a family member.
Oh, and good Sunday, again, to all!
A thought crossed my mind. Would the BCS, should Boise State and Houston continue on their quest for an undefeated season, end playing each other in a BCS Bowl? Just like they put TCU and BSU against each other in the Fiesta Bowl. I remember not too many people were happy pinning two non-aq schools together.
Hope everyone heals up quickly and completely before next Saturday. Looks like another dog-fight (no Vick pun intended) on the horizon.
Go Warriors!!!
Hmm, my engrish not so good today. Need to stick with shorter sentences. 😉
Okay, going watch the replay of the Stanford-USC game.
#14 Shoko, If both BSU and Houston make it to the BCS game, I was pretty sure they would be playing each other until one, or both of them, may join the Big East or some other BCS conference. In the late 70s and early 60s, Penn State was the team with no respect although they went undefeated or, had only 1 loss for years. They finally got to play some “name” school in a bowl game and beat them. If they do that to BSU, the results may be the same. Now if they (BSU, Hou.)are going to a BCS conference, then they, the conference or the BCS need to build them up, so now they may be playing someone else rather than each other.
The point spread was still favorable to hawaii before entering the game at 7 pts.
Idaho has been holding their own against quality teams, but coming up short with the losses.
I was questioning that 7 pt. spread, thinking it should of been tighter, within a field goal or even, due to a road game and the 2 losses to UNLV and San Jose. Could of even favored Idaho by some points.
Btw ST ~
Pulitzer Prize winning photo of *Da Little Guy* being carried off the field. The team seems genuinely happy for him. I know I was!
I opted not to throw my prediction into the hat on this game and several others earlier, just for that reason, as the trap games are on the map.
Just not a fan of a dominant run and shoot offense when there are so many factors that are still in question.
Can this offensive line operate with run blocking on the same level as pass blocking? If so, the mix of keeping their defense off guard is the best.
Stil too predictable this offense.
btw. watched the replay early this am before the rooster woke up. The receivers looked good.
just too many lack of discipline penalties
PJ2,
Good point. My thinking was the reason the BCS put TCU and BSU against each other in the Fiesta was because they didn’t want the non-aq schools to embarrass the BCS schools should they win. However, BSU is ranked pretty high in the BCS rankings this year. So, I don’t know what would happen. Most of the pronosticators haven’t predicted any BSU-Houston matchup yet. As of right now, most are predicting Boise State against some SEC team in the Sugar Bowl.
The field goal kicker is your best offensive guy
The punter is your best defensive guy.
Yesterday, on the blog, Kev-1 asked a question about kicking. If any of you are interested, google Jason Elam’s record kick. Watch where his plant foot is. It actually goes past the ball. On the same google page, there are other kickers, including Janikowski’s record tying of JE’s record and a kicker from Texas El Paso’ 64 yarder. Take note of where their plant feet are. There are other kickers on the page making long fgs, but they are not in a game condition. All of the long kicks have 1 thing in common. Their plant foot is just slightly pass the ball (heel even with the ball or even more). ST posted some pictures of 3 UH kickers actually kicking the ball. I critiqued their position of their plant foot. The biggest player’s plant foot was farthest behind the ball, thus probably couldn’t kick it as far as the smaller kickers. Of course the longer the kick, probably, the loft in the begining of the flight wouldn’t be as high. But on kickoffs, to get distance to go to the endzone, you don’t necessarily need height in the beginning.
Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂
Very cogent post Mr. Tsai. You speak the hearts of many.
The Aloha State is a mindset, a code of conduct, a philosophy and an expression of Hawaii’s character.
We are proud to have the Warriors represent our Aloha State. True, expectations are high, but so is our love of the Warriors.
GO WARRIORS!!!
Had to post this…hilarious!
http://smartfootball.com/defense/buddy-ryans-polish-goalline-tactic
Coming home with a W on the long flight is the best feel. Makes the nap time feel deep and secure.
Good morning, gang!
I think some of the negative comments are from the bozos who bet on college games.
This is a college level team, not the pros. These are STUDENT-athletes who have to go to class, have a social life, as well as having a second job playing football. Every game is going to depend on how the team plays together, and the state of their opponent. No sure thing in these contests.
If you thought of these young men as your sons, or nephews or grandkids, that’s the kind of support you should be giving them.
Morning, Tsaikos!
Well said, ST!
You would think by reading the previous day’s post that we LOST! But we didn’t! We Won! We Won! Yay for special teams, we needed field goals, we got field goals!
Just gotta keep believing…
Go Warriors!
Too bad about BJ Penn last night. He should have gotten ice on that eye asap. Seems like it was swelling more during and right after his interview.
ST, well said. Using someone elses full name is bad too. Especially, former players’ name.
Nice, very well said ST!
People’s Team:
There are a few 2011 Warriors that have earned lifetime memberships onto the People’s Team.
Bryant Moniz: The most under appreciated 5,000 Yard / 39 touchdown passer ever!) People who continue to criticze him, in my humble opnion, simply know nothing about football. My God, the poor kid’s running for his life on every snap. I laugh at suggestions he’s not very good. When he’s eligibility is done, and unless a change in either coach or philosophy is made, trust me, all “know it alls” will be wishing he was still Hawaii’s q-b.
Corey Paredes: Just a beast, all the heart in the world. Lover everything about him, effort, plays hurt, leaves everything he has on the field in every game he plays.
Aaron Brown: Dude just continues to make plays. And he plays ultra-physical on every snap. Animal!
Vaughn Meatoga & Kaniela Tuipulotu: If you aren’t specifically watching #95 & #49, then you might not notice. But gang, you SHOULD be watching those two tackles. They are as physically imposing and you’ll see, athletic, strong, quick a foot young men. They are anchors, studs, and the reason teams do NOT run on the inside against Hawaii.
Richard Torres: Smart, quick, no limitations (except height), and an instinctive “Johnny On the Spotter”.
Royce Pollard: Hands, decent speed, big-play ability, inside and out guy (hard to find these days”, and tough. Kids played thru injury and never complains.
Joey Iosefa: Puts the physical in otherwise “soft” run and shoot offense. Beast. Strong, tough, carries the ball high and tight, and most importantly in the UH offense, he’s a great protector of the quarterback.
Art Laurel: Strong, tough (his injuries would have benched most others), excellent chasing down quarterbacks, and he’s got a motor that never stops
With all that said, with all the intriguing input by WB bloggers, we all have to ask, and ask out loud……
“Really, a damn pooch (squib) kick after kicking a field goal to take the lead?”
And that decision was made after a timeout was called by the not so Special Teams coach.
Kickoff coverage has actually been one of the “better” units for UH this season, so WHY, WHY, with :36 left on the clock, would ANYONE, ANYONE, decide to surrender field position….?!?!?!
It baffles me really, Idaho started a potentially game winning drive at the 39-yard line, with a kicker that had a cannon for a leg (whew! thank God he missed).
That type of decision making, that’s the kind of stuff that makes many, some, call it what you want, cry out loud….”Really, $1M for that?”
#19 –
Must concurr with the Lord of the ceded lands. What was also nice was the iterations seen in the host’s posts and pics throughout the day. From the Vandal tailgate to the pics of Chun, we felt like we were truly “there” on game day. Then for dessert he writes a couple of excellent articles for today’s SA.
Salas getting some action against the Saints. Two catches for 25 yards.
Bess one catch for 14. This just might be the Dolphins first win of the season.
#34 – Bleed Green and White
Great comment. You sum things up well. Defense wins championships. We’ve seen the defense take the games into their hands a few time this season. When the Warriors win the WAC, we can thank the defense for doing their part.
I still believe we haven’t seen the Warriors at their best yet. There will be a game when all phases are clicking, and when that happens, the Warriors can play with anybody.
GO WARRIORS!!!
Okay, got to log off the blog. Have a nice day, folks!
ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
The underwear turned brown with squeezing with each PAT and FG. The last one was such a relief. Coach Tomey slept good last night.
Is no one talking Tulane yet?
ST: Great comments about Hawaii’s Team. I’m hoping we can continue to heal in readiness for the upcoming games so we can indeed show our best stuff yet.
negative comments are fine but ignorant comments like “Fire the Coach”. “Offense is to predictable” without stating logical reasons why is a waste of bandwidth. Everyone has an opinion but that does not mean “dumb” opinions should be given a forum to be reapeated over and over…..
Whew! Blessings to You, Warriors!
Dolphins gotta call Bess’ number more often
most hawaii fans like me understands this subject matter; sometimes we can’t find the words to say it…
BJ Penn please don’t retire. Go back to LW. I just heard that the UFC is finalizing plans to come to Hawaii and Penn NEEDS to be on that card to sell it out.
My answer to we’re too predictable is yes, we’re a pass oriented offense. uhh, we’re gonna pass, predict that! Doesn’t take a genius to recognize we’re gonna pass. Or 2nd and long is gonna be a draw or bubble screen.
The defense for the most part knows what we’re gonna do. they might have to guess a little bit to jump on our routes but for the most part our execution is better than our predictability. I used to get frustrated because like many, you can literally call out the plays as they happen. But to our offensive arrogance, our execution is so money we can tell the defense to go ahead line up, you may have our played called but we’r still gonna execute. Predict that!
wait, what? the People’s Team is not Las Vegas Sin of the Lingerie Football League?
Keep up the excuses ST, maybe Mack can give you a commission on his next pay day
Stephen, well said. Isn’t it strange that UH opponents are having bye weeks before playing us? Idaho had a bye before playing us. Utah St. had a bye last week before playing us this week. Nevada is having a bye this week before playing us next week. Is that conspiracy or what. While our team is all banged up the other guys are healing their wounds and have 2 weeks to get ready for us. Doesn’t seem like a level playing field, does it.
The Mich St. – Wisconsin game the other week was fantastic. Yesterday, Stanford and USC was just as exciting. It had everything, great QBs, good rushing attack, Luck throwing a pick 6 and then coming back to lead the Cardina to a tying TD in regulation. You coud see and feel and the intensity of the players giving everything they got. USC was in position to score in the 3rd OT, but the fumble did it. The Stanford player did a great job of getting a hand on the ball to knock it loose. It will go down as one of the great games in college football.
Morning…
GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
Well stated ST and DPK’s restatement in #26!
SLUGGER re: #29 – you had a run-on sentence. I think you should have just said: “I think some of the negative comments are from the bozos”.
Don’t think it’s a conspiracy. UH plays one more game, which means one fewer bye week.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY
Mike Sellers
#18
Is it too much to ask for your starting QB to hit an open receiver when the O-line gives you time? What is open? One or two steps at full trot.
Moniz indeed was throwing high passes early
Guess everyone hung over from the 790 messages yesterday. Like Bleed Green and White’s nominations for “peoples team” but didnt that used to be “All Madden” before?
ST
Is that a record?
Don’t believe that those who are upset about the team’s performance are blaming the players. You are right, the players are doing their best (most of them and most of the time). The problem is with the coaches – primary is recruiting, they have not recruited the better players, too many walk-ons, lack of depth, etc. The coaches keep preaching that they want more speed and size, but it appears that they have not been able to recruit speed and size, both offensively and defensively. The qB position appears bare for next year. The offensive line is marginal and not many players in reserve to replace the outgoing seniors. They have not been able to keep the top local players to stay home. Their game decisions and play calling have not been stellar. Saying what you want to do is not enough, you need to transfer words into action and reality. If you continue to recruit lower level players, you will have a lower level team. Take Boise State, they have good players, but not really great players like some of the BCS schools have, but they (coaches) have been able to get the most out of their players. If they can do it, why can’t Hawaii? That is the real question.
The team is 5-3 … (in case we’ve forgotten) that’s a winning record. We have more wins than we have losses. We need two more wins to get into the Sheraton Bowl. We have had worse records going into the bottom half of the season under every coach. It’s a younger team with less frequent flyer miles under their belts. As long as we don’t lose at home against an underdog and take a couple on the road, I’m a happy camper.
So far…so good. A couple of disappointing losses, for sure … a lot more injuries at more positions than we bargained for – particularly positions of questionable depth. A few players haven’t played to their potential or pre-season billing – mostly due to some kind of injury. But we are still in the running for the WAC title.
Lot’s of good football left. Thank goodness…
Loving the Warriors.
Loving the exciting game…
Loving the Love
And Unity
GO WARRIORS!
BTW… did we lose Corey Lau?
After the game, I stayed and watched BJ Penn and cohorts.
GOD BLESS BJ PENN!
Good morning Tsaikos!
Well said, ST. I couldn’t have said it more eloquently. That’s why you’re the writer and I’m the number cruncher. 😀
Congrats to the Wahines. The basketball team looked good last night. Thanks, Slugger, for the tickets.
Stuntz touchdown was great. We’ve been calling for play action pass for years now to freeze the linebackers or on rushing linemen. I guess that could be 1 way of calling this system predictable. When we did a play action pass, Stuntz was wide open for a touchdown, yet we rarely do it. I guess by faking to the running back, we eliminate the rb from blocking the perimeter rusher, but when we do play action pass, shouldn’t the blocking assignments change with the rb blocking anybody coming into his zone? Also, each passing play has many options (5 receivers). Could it be that the qb taking too long for his reads? Or maybe the receivers just can’t get seperation.
Yeah, Warriors and softbows, volleybows, basketbows all victorious yesterday.
Why wouldn’t the WAC create advantages for its more devoted members?
Nevada leaving too.
How many chances will we give McMackin to lose games before we get rid of him? I hope we do not lose site of the fact that McMackin screwed up again just because they won the game. Why did he not run down the clock before kicking the game winning field goal. He gave Idaho an opportunity to win the game by doing so. He is a great guy but a terrible coach. Why did he not take a time out with 20+ seconds left in the first half? They could have gone for an all out punt block or a punt run back. He is just not a good coach!
Stephen, well stated. Mahalo!
GO Warriors!!!
The snow storm outside is frightful with 10′ of wet snow and building. On this stormy morning with the wind a howling, the rain a pouring, the thunder clapping, and lightening crackling, yes, it’s a beautiful day in Hawaii nei.
All teams won their respective games!
OK, nuf of the Bs, time to transplant the anthuriums.
#70 Wayne, I too wondered about not running down the clock before the field goal. If you mean running the ball then that is a different story as we thought we could score a touchdown, thus making Idaho need a touchdown too. If you talking about taking a timeout too soon before the field goal, then it was explained to me that the announcers were wrong. Idaho took that timeout before Hawaii kicked the fg. Announcers said that Hawaii took it but not true.
It was 4th down.. not much clock running you can do at that point. You either kick the ball or you don’t. If we didn’t kick the FG we would have lost by 1 point.
Good morning everyone!
Bravo, ST!!!
Looks like we are getting close… soon the offense, defense, and Special Teams will meld to form the knockout team! Today starts the rest of the season, and we are 5-3!
Going back to may post yesterday. Does anybody know the rules for review from the booth? The Pollard facemask was originally called a facemask on the defender but after review, the call was changed. I didn’t think the booth could review penalties. Can anybody explain what exactly happened? Could the announcers be wrong again? But I thought the referee called it a defensive penalty on his field mike. Cannot change what happened and we won anyway, but I sure would like to know the answer.
ST said that he was “dismissed” from the team. No explanation.
This occurred early in this Fall’s training camp.
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63.madeinhawaii:
October 30th, 2011 at 10:07 am
BTW… did we lose Corey Lau?
That photo of Kenton Chun being carried on the shoulders of his teammates is every kickers dream,I’m so for happy for him.
This new computer and my bad english is killing my posting. Wrong spelling, wrong keys pressed, wrong words deleted, double clicked on letters, extra letters coming out on words like “my”, but came out “may”. I like blame public skool but………….yeah, that’s it. Public school. lol
PAPAJOE #76 – I don’t know the answer about reviewing penalties – it could be that the IDA coach asked for a review. But I believe Pollard, when he was stiff-arming the DB, also grabbed the defender on the facemask.No question that the defender grabbed Pollard by the facemask.
So essentially I think that it was an off-setting penalty.
Have to look at the game again.
publik skoo kompyutah!
ai-eee-soos:
Thanks…must be a senior moment of mine….
81d1 you crack me up. I standing on my head. get it?
80 tommui, that’s what my beef is. I don’t think they can review penalties. I could be wrong though.
#82 . . .
Wot, you bragging? No soa, oa wot.
Crack up. Where da crack? Be careful cuz crack kills.
Kenton Chun is light enough that he was carried by one of the DBs.
Re: Penalties.
The claim was that because Pollard had grabbed the defender’s face mask first, then anything goes after that. Sort of like how after the ball is tipped, it’s fair game on a receiver.
It did appear that McCarty fumbled before reaching the end zone, so everyone who thought the ball cannot be advanced is correct. UH should have asked for a video review.
As for that bad spot on Clapp’s catch, Akey should have asked for a review of the spot.
WAC refs giveth, WAC refs taketh.
On the pooch kick, Tomey said he didn’t want to squib it (McCarty was in the middle) nor kick it deep and let one of the Idaho return guys get a running start. He felt the tight end was an easy target.
But I don’t think UH noticed that Veltung was out of the game because of an injury. They had a rookie back there. A good rookie, but a rookie nonetheless.
Of course, all of the drama could have been avoided if a UH player sacked Brian Reader or tackled Kama Bailey.
But if UH made the right calls, and hit open receivers, and kicked deep, the blog wouldn’t have had 700-plus comments and tons of views yesterday. (By the way, it’s the views not the comments that make management smile.)
Giveth and taketh.
I agree with everything madeinhawaii said here, except the statement (which I’ve heard a lot of different people say) that this is a younger team. Some examples:
Seniors:
LT Laurel
LG Leonard
C Sapolu
Z Pollard
QB Moniz
LE Masch
LT Meatoga
RT Tuipulotu
MLB Paredes
Buck LB Brown
CB Hopkins
SS Torres
PK Chun
Moniz, Paredes, Torres, Brown, Pollard, etc. have made HUGE plays to change games for the Warriors this season, clearly showing their senior leadership. Meatoga, Tuipulotu, and Masch have been solid, with UH being spoiled with such reliable interior DL play for the last few seasons.
When more than half of the starters are seniors, I cannot see us claiming that UH has a younger team this year. NEXT year, UH will definitely have a younger, more inexperienced team. This year, UH’s core starters are made up of senior veterans who have contributed in many past years.
I think it’s more of an inexperienced team than a young team, although there are a lot of young players playing. The past three years, there have been a lot of fifth- and sixth-year first-time starters on the offensive line. That ends after this year. There won’t be guys like Adrian Thomas, Laupepa Letuli, Clayton Laurel, Brett Leonard, etc., waiting in the wings.
I think that the big problem with the offense this season was that the OL and WRs were hurt throughout training camp. Without having extensive practice time together, it wasn’t possible for Moniz and the receivers to have the chemistry and cohesion for the offense. Without having the starting OL being able to practice together, the crucial timing and chemistry couldn’t be solidified before the season.
ST documented all of the practice time the starting unit missed in training camp. It isn’t a coincidence that some fans are unhappy with the offense…look how badly UH struggled when Pilares was hurt in the Hawaii Bowl to see the importance of QB/WR chemistry and WR/WR chemistry. Even the downfield blocking is hurt when the WRs aren’t sure where the other WRs are going to be because they haven’t worked together enough.
The injuries were unfortunate, especially because so many happened at WR and OL and those were the positions that needed the most work together in camp because they had so many new starters.
UH will have to make some interesting decisions in the offseason. With Iosefa and Jackson back, and Will Gregory in the wings, it might be a consideration to move John Lister or Jared Leaf to linebacker.
ST,
Yes, UH has a fairly inexperienced team at some positions…but if you count the games started in past seasons by the starters, I’d bet that UH is actually above average for college teams. UH has so many vets that have been longtime starters playing, and players like Torres, Paredes, Meatoga, Pollard, Moniz, etc. have been making *huge* plays all season.
But UH is *not* a young team this season. UH will be a young team next season, though.
off-topic
Rams 31; Aints 21.
Greg Salas: 5 catches; 47 yards; long= 17.
I just realized it’s hard to steal electricity in an airport.
Where are the outlets?
“Young” in terms of playing time and travel squad experience.
The injuries really puzzle me too. Under Glanville we had a lot of injured corners.. mostly shoulder injuries. But this season we seem to have more than our share of foot, ankle, knee, and hamstring injuries. Is it the shoes? The new turf? Cleats? Conditioning? bad luck?
With the loss of Paredes, Brown, and some others, I think that UH will probably move a player or two to LB. Some players could get tryouts at LB during Spring Training, where some players will earn starting spots for next season.
With all the seniors starting this year (7 of the 11 defensive players!), the battle in the spring will be fierce. Some hungry players have been waiting for their chance and we’ll see who earns the starting spots.
I think you gotta go into one of those cafeterias or lounges. Dunno about the restroom.
MIH:
Blood in the water.
Paredes mentioned that teams have been targeting his knees.
madeinhawaii,
But if you look at UH’s starters, UH is *not* young in terms of playing time! UH is actually above average for D-IA football teams in the number of starts that their starters had before this season.
UH will be young in terms of playing time and travel squad experience next season.
I think Cayman Shutter would be a good linebacker. Smart and athletic.
…or a Safety.
They really should reconsider those chop blocks.
Next season is a whole new ball of wax…. MWC or back to the WAC?
Who’s going to be at the forefront come Sept 1st as QB?
Receivers… take your pick… (more depth)
Ellis Henderson (4-4)
Chinedu Promise Amadi (4-4)
Chris Gant (2-2 JC)
D.J. Armbrust (3-3)
Donnie King Jr. (3-3)
Samson Anguay (4-4)
Allen Sampson (3-2)
Corey Paclebar (2-2)
Jeremiah Ostrowski (1-1)
Darius Bright (1-1)
Trevor Davis (4-3)
Cecil Doe (2-2 JC)
Billy Ray Stutzmann (3-3)
Justin Clapp (3-3)
Bennett Nicola (3-3)
Oline will feature a number of new faces but very promising players.
Lots of really big shoes to fill on Defense…
Blaine Gaison sure proved that move could work out well.
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Vikes 24; Panthers 21
Pilares: 3 KO; avg 20.3; long =27.
no receptions.
1 fumble; his team recovered.
Game replay on OC12. Another chance to analyze.
Cayman Shutter to safety – I like that.
Need a big guy back there – like Mana Silva.
If Cayman likes to HIT, and is fast enough, that would be a good career move.
and then again, Graves has been used as a DB IIRC
…or was it just on Special Teams?
Will the QB spot get “Stumped” next season?
FG attempt hits the upright and bounces no good.
Oddah team takes over…QB stands in the pocket, can’t find an open receiver and gets sacked…
Hawaii replay? No.
Pats-Steelers
Armbrust and Nicola were cut after after the spring.
Interesting to see some familiar names from the 2007 season in the Broncos-Lions game: Stafford, Moreno, Tebow…
who’s missing?
Here’s the deal, for SO many years we’ve talked / heard about UH football, the entire program for that matter reaching the NEXT level….
If that is true, if that indeed is the wish, and with the program’s move into the Mountain West Conference next season, then I don’t think it’s an unrealistic expectation that the Warriors SHOULD beat teams like UNLV and / or San Jose State. If we’re all thinking “next level”, if the University is okay with paying $1.1M for a head football coach, it’s NOT unrealistic to expect the football team to handle the Idahos of the college football world.
Is it…?
ST #96- usually in the pillars and some in the window benches – usually at both ends.
I think we need to adjust the offensive play calling, and have a slot retreat into the backfield. We need a little more trickery, so mix in some option runs and bootlegs and inside screens. Just my take. I know June says in this offense you take what the defense gives you, but if you have troubling executing the longer routes, the defense starts adjusting to take away the other stuff, and we are not showing enough looks to keep the defenses honest.
Props to both kickers, I was critical last week. Was unaware of Chun’s injury and made comment of his lack of leg strength; my apology. Saw the highlight of Hadden’s FG and he was right on with his technique.
As a point of reference Scott Enos had a very simple, technically rock solid kick. I said it in the past, just like a swinging gate. How many PAT’s did he make in a row? I know he set a UH record, maybe more like WAC too? Papajoe2 you had it right on with the plant foot past the ball, this is needed to generate height and with hip turn & leg speed almost impossible to block. Plant foot is the most important and starts/sets up the whole process.
Kekoa,
Wea you? Looka dis… from the SA Wayne Harada column… re: Aunty Marlene Sai…
“On Monday’s “Hawaii Five-0,” titled “Ka Iwi Kapu (Sacred Bones),” she surfaces with a speaking part as Mrs. Kekoa, an apparition who lived in an apartment building where a murder occurred.”
Your name is going national….probably international.
If Queen Diana finds out about the other Mrs. Kekoa . . . we might soon have an apparition appearing on the WB.
wafan – #121 – bwahahahahaha!! Kekoa’s bones no goin be sacred eeda!
kicking – position of plant foot – shoots, eye taught u guys was talklin about golf!
Does anyone think that maybe the lack of production on offense is due to the Pregame 7-7 warm ups? I wonder if they let the starters run through the 7-7 for a longer period if that would help the offense get into its groove from the first drive….?
Congratulations to coach Michelle Nagamine and her Na Wahine Soccer team. They completed the WAC regular season today with a win over La Tech to finish tied for third in the WAC. Utah State is 1st, Fresno State second, a team UH beat 3-0. Na Wahine and San Jose State finished at 4-2-1. They tied each other in 2OT at the Waipio complex.
The WAC championship will be played at Fresno, first round on Nov. 3.
ST:
If no can advance an offensive fumble, Y uh koches neva appeal da TD?
Could it be that the OL did not advance the ball, but jus wen katchum wea he was standing?
Wot is da rule about advancing a fumble? diff if ofence or defence? diff if behine line of scrimmage or in front?
C, even betta dat da wahine socca team wen ween! complete sweep fo UH sports!!!!!!!!!
Tebow-ing in Denver, the game wasn’t pretty for the Heisman trophy winner. So what will their fans chant next week?
Get rid of Mack cause we pay him too much = jealousy ???
We rebuilds every year, while Boise State reloads. The only time we reloaded was in 2006 and 2007, the year Bess, Grice-Millins, and Colt, etc. all returned. In fact, the 2006 team was better than the 2007 team, but 2007 was an easier schedule. In 2006 we played Alabama and Boise State on the road. We also lost to Oregon State at home in a great game, an Oregon State who was very good and a bowl team. All 3 games we lost in 2006 were very close games and we had a chance to win all of them.
Going to the Mountain West IS a step up from the WAC. There is lots of history. We do not do well in altitude places like Wyoming, Colorado St. Air Force, and Reno. We have had trouble in Las Vegas. San Diego St. has more talented athletes than any other MWC team it can be argued. New Mexico have been down, but they are at altitude also and they will get better. In the 3 losses so far, think about it, but for me I think we were out coached.
#72 papajoe2. Thanks for your clarification. I did look it up on espn and did confirm that Idaho was indeed the team that called the time out. That makes me feel better but what about the end of the first half not calling a time out to attempt a block punt? Also, if you remember a few years back, Hawaii was up by 12 after a touchdown in the 4th qtr and went for 1 instead of 2. I believe this was against Nevada. It took an interception at the end to preserve a 6 pt win. What about the 2 timeouts in a row this year leaving us with just 1 timeout for the rest of the game. The papers said he got the team jacked up but they were reeling after that but came though later in the quarter. I just don’t think he manages the game well. Thanks for correcting me papajoe2.
#102…i think Cayman Shutter could do the job as our quarterback…but i don’t know if he’ll have the chance.
Papa Joe
reference place kicking
Peter Kim is an excellent coach. He helped our son extend his distance by 10 yards.
Ray Guy’s kicking camp helped with accuracy.
Back in 2003 when son was practicing in Aiea, the high school football field was placing in a new grass field and was not available to be walked on. We used the baseball field and had our son kick over the backstop behind home plate. That helped getting a high trajectory. Kicking longer field goals didn’t change kicking trajectory as others imply.
Great blog, well done
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#123 A-House, Yup, almost same, same principle.
Great blog. Well done.
ppj2:
no wanda i no can play gulf guud!
my plant fuut stay in da rong place or is it my baday sta in da rong place – heck, das Y eye no like play gulf always shuut ova 120!
I think spammers need better marketing skills.
If you want people to go to your site, you have to have headings like: “Are you irked about that game?”
This is what happens when you outsource spam.
sum day, da UH coaching staff goin get “time management” korec – allowing game clock to tick down to less dan 10 seconds before trying the field goal dan call time out.
also, nut knowing who goin receive da ball almost cost UH da game with the pooch kick – they neva know that Valtrung was not in da game for the last kick off – me tinks a squib kick much betta dan a pooch – get chance dat player will touch da ball thus starting the game clock; mo hud to handle a ball bouncin all ova da place; get chance for fumble and recava by UH.
OK, Mrs A-House says get off the blog!
If we got rid of everybody who got paid more than me, it would just be me, Slugger and DPK writing notes to each other every day.
There’s a guy sitting next to me. Must be a Realtor who deals with foreclosure properties. He was arguing with someone on his cell. Then he said: “I have to go. My flight is about to leave.”
That was 15 minutes ago. He’s still sitting next to me.
Wtf r some of u people talking about the recruiting is bad??? Have u actually looked at the caliber of players we are getting and the production of these players so far??
Jon hardy-t
Aaron brown (NFL prospect)
Zach masch
Mike Edwards
Art Laurel (I’m really impressed n excited about this one)
Vaughn meatoga (NFL prospect)
Paipai falemalu
Tank Hopkins
Billy ray stuts (future animal)
Trevor Davis (future animal)
Joey iosefA (bull dozer)
Brett Leonard
London sopolu
Chauncy m
Jordon loffler (rs-frosh starting) lost for season
I believe we have slot of young players starting and having me excited for the future and alot more waiting to come out n show u HATERS how good our recruiting has been! Btw go check out any season b4 2006 and see how good our recruiting was on paper and compare to now! Also remember that in 2008 Greg Mack was hired late and recruiting suffered that year and Mack was able to get a few gems still!
I think the best way to work on time management is to play video games.
They teach you how to deal with stressful situations while the clock is counting down.
Of course, playing video games for too long isn’t time management, either.
And I’m sure I left a few players out.
Jonj:
Nice list.
I think you meant Sean Shigematsu for the last one, though.
In the offseason, UH should let the players make several interchangeable 7 on 7 teams and have them enter summer leagues. It’ll build a repoire of continuity, timing and bonding amongst themselves. Keeps them sharp and in shape and stave off complacency. Get compliance on it.
We have some good gems recruited on our team. Only thing is we need some good polish and a really good polisher to make them shine. I rather not wait till 2013.
142: ST
I’ve heard Reardon and Ferd give each other the, “I have to go. My plane is about to leave” speech all the time. Even when they’re sitting next to each other on the same flight! Any truth to that?
Slugger/wafan/jm22.95 ~
Re: Ka iwi kapu episode on 5-0h
Eh! You falla no make me scare, gunfunit! Bumbye your leg goin’ broke, and your head goin’ spin like one top!
Iwonderwhy do u really think jj was that great?? One year he went undefeated! And he had the stars alined that season! 3 yr starter at qb three 3-4yr starter wr’s. Defense that had 3-4 yr starting linebackers and line. A crazy e z schedule! And still they had here almost scares! Get realistic!!! Do I want to go undefeated every season?? Hell ya! Do I want our top local talent to stay home?? Hell ya! Try n remember how our local recruiting was under jj… He severed ties and we could barely keep any local kids home. Do I think tomey was a bad hire now??Hell ya… But I remember people praising that hire cuz we used to have the best sp team under him.
Everyone get realistic! If we hire a new coach were gonna go thru growing pains… New system most likely…. Won’t have the right personell for it… Gonna take a few years to rebuild… Recruiting will most likely stay the same becuz were in Hawaii… Top local kids wanna get off the island… The ones that stay either didn’t have a better option or jus love their families and state more than their want to go away.
ChopSueyBoy re: #132 wonder if Peter Kim should give Hadden some tips if either were receptive.
I got my copy of Ka ‘Uhane o Ka Loke which has a picture of the blue rose that I took down at your shop. Drop me a line with your e-mail and I’ll shoot it over to you. (tommui(at) hawaii (dot)rr (dot) com
If we had salas, pilares, Bradley back don’t u think we could go undefeated this season??? That’s exactly what jj got and had the perfect season until he quit on us at the end and let georgia kill us!
#151,
Yeah lets get realistic for 2 seconds.
Lets see via Macks OWN WORDS, if we had more money, more facilities, more everything we would be much more inclined to be more successful. That’s why we “can’t roll with the big boy Pac-12”.
So AGAIN please compare what JJ had in terms of facilities, recruiting budget, free plane tickets to go recruiting, institutional support, INCREASED budget overall, taking over a program that went 0-12 as opposed to taking a program that went 12-1.
Comparing JJ and Mack is not comparing apples and oranges.
You want to talk crazy redunkulous easy schedule? Shall we look at the sagarin ratings of teams we play?
Oh and lets see…he took Von’s personnel and..wait, whats that? He went to a bowl game and had the single best turnaround in NCAA history?
If we move in a new direction with a new staff, I won’t be expecting the Sugar Bowl or a double digit season. Everyone needs time to develop their system. I get that. That doesn’t mean I am going to be scared of going in a new direction because there would be a couple of years to get the house in order.
Yea let’s get realistic for 2 more seconds! Jj left us! And he was a great coach and I’m sure if he had the support it could have been better. But he effing left us! Now we gotta do the best we can wig what we got! Who would u consider a coach that could lead us in this direction?? N I garentee u we will have another 10 win season! 2 back to back 10 win season?? Also look what Mack has done… A offensive and defensive coordinator that’s garenteed gonna get pouched from us by a school wit more cash! U fools all think coaching is ez or something. while u sit at home playing NCAA football and have ur undefeated seasons on there think it jus that simple… Get real man! Yea we could replace our coach go thru growing pains and then maybe still have the same results 10 win season?? Lets get rid of a 10 win coach for another “maybe” 10 win coach! Lol… Idiot!
My point is that comparing Mack to JJ is unfair. It’s what we are doing now and where we are headed in the future that matters.
There are a lot of positives our program has gained over the years and while we haven’t made BCS level $$$ improvements, we have made strides since the JJ era. Lots to be proud of. The potential is there and overflowing, we just need someone to use unleash it.
#155,
Wonderful arguments. You win.
Go Warriors! Play nice… and Boo on Bettors and Whinners that nothing better to do than dis on the kids and the coaches
All I know is for the next week (at least) I can still say:
Ten an chree, baby! Still can!
GO WARRIORS!
#159,
+1
Wow, heated debate.
Next week is Utah State. Think about Chuckie Keeton and Robert Turbin and how to stop them. M’kay?
Interesting tidbit about Boise State’s program.
“In the next few months, there will be three decisions that will impact the future of Boise State football — for now and for the foreseeable future. Two will be made by President Bob Kustra. The other by football coach Chris Petersen.
The first, Kustra’s decision: Whether or not to move the football program to the Big East.
The second, Kustra’s decision: Who will be Boise State’s new athletic director?
The third, Petersen’s decision: Whether or not to remain the Broncos’ head coach, thus turning down overtures from a new batch of motivated suitors, a group that is sure to include UCLA and Arizona of the Pac-12.”
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2011/10/30/1859147/brian-murphy-petersen-kustra-hold.html
Anyway, have a good night folks.
I would make Iosefa a bumbulla slot.
ST ~ hope you’re having a …. pleasant flight.
Yup, you, me & DPK could go to practice and then exchange notes about it on the blog. 😛
A-Joe,
During the summer, Na Koa funds pay for summer school which then keeps a lot of players here to work out with each other. I hope they use the time to do really well on the two classes they take, so their GPA stays up. Their unsupervised practices help with the bonding and learning. This summer I noticed Vaughn and Kaniela working with the big guys. They were leaders. Darryl McBride was helping the newcomers. Moniz was there, as well as Spain & others. I only got there a couple of times, so I don’t know who else stepped up, but there are leaders on the team and guys making the effort to get better. Tommy Heffernan kept them in shape. Hurrah! Coach Heffernan!
A-Joe #147:
like your idea too!
can UH play 7 on 7 with selected high school teams just to get their timing down? if can, why not and use it as a recruiting tool ( U can’t say dat! U can’t say dat!).
no harm in asking if can!
Why not Iosefa at LB, a bull at FB with average RB speed, but at LB, he’d be a LB with speed, side, and athleticism.
Did the Warriors charter a flight to Vegas and catch the early morning flight back home today? leaves around 1:55 am PST and arrives in Hawaii around 5:55 am HST.
Be happy 🙂 , come to the UH Na Wahine Rainbow Wahine Softball Stadium this Saturday and watch the 2012 edition play a pre season exhibition DH against Chaminade starting at 10 a.m. Following the DH, after you’re all happy and feeling good about the 2012 softball team, you can head out to Aloha Stadium to tail gate. 🙂 🙂
Ralph:
next year UH got Daily-Lyles and Jordan Monico in the middle.
I like jared Leaf in the middle also – he’s a bull and quick – got the height, weight, and speed to stop any run up the middle or off-tackle.
just a thought – put 3 DT on the line with 2 monster middles and 2 speed OLB as the front 7 – LBs can also do the speed DE from either side.
while UH loses the 2 dominant DTs – their replacements have seen a lot of game time this year – great decision by Aranda to build experience – also noted that several underclassmen on the O-line in Idaho – again, building experience so next year will be less of a “rebuilding” year – my fantasy is to see Shigematsu and Loffler as the tackle positions next year!
Ralph:
#169 – eye 2 ole for dat – must save all da energy for tailgating and the game!
now, if eye were only 25 years younger – hmmmmmmmmm!
this weekend’s opponent’s schedules.
continue to work hard warriors.
http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=39846&start=15
have a safe happy halloween!
#168 – AHouse – that is the usual schedule for returning from most road games
Offense has to really work at becoming more consistent, game after game, very troublesome especially when playing a 1-6 team we should have destroyed!!!!!!!!!!!!!
6’4″ Brendan Dailey lb too.
Nice to see the usual round of stiffness again. Gosh this season has been long but some people are intent on making it LONGER….
Here, HAPPY HALLOWEEN, if you can’t even smile at this, then you are doomed to remain in your slumber.
One of the many reasons Guy Hagi and Hawaii weathermen tend to be a bore…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4IC7qaNr7I
For those who happened to miss “Car Talk” last week, here is a letter that was read on the air (we go back to “Standard” time on Sunday morning, Nov 5):
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You know what strikes me as sad? Oddly enough, we could end up with a very respectable 8-5 or 9-4 regular season and many would still be bemoaning the losses and not beating their drums for all the wins.
Lesson for today, Ignore the retard… I did it yesterday and life is good!!!
People need to learn the definitions to words they use before using them…less they become known as one of the fools of tsai-land.
Shucks, I posted that lesson one day too late. Boo =(
#179: mih
I agree. My feeling on the subject is that we could finish 13 – 0 with an average of 49 points and opponents of 17 points per game and these ‘supporters’ would only focus on the game Hawai’i won 35 – 33.
Hiya.
Luvvin our Warriors… and yes, our coaches too.
These are not easy times. Or predictable.
Just ask Drew Brees.
Just ask Greg Salas!
Chee Hoo!
GO WARRIORS!
Stephen Tsai:
October 30th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Re: Penalties.
The claim was that because Pollard had grabbed the defender’s face mask first, then anything goes after that. Sort of like how after the ball is tipped, it’s fair game on a receiver.
It did appear that McCarty fumbled before reaching the end zone, so everyone who thought the ball cannot be advanced is correct. UH should have asked for a video review.
As for that bad spot on Clapp’s catch, Akey should have asked for a review of the spot.
WAC refs giveth, WAC refs taketh.
The ball can be advanced. The play happened on 2nd and goal. If it were 4th and goal, the ball is dead at the spot of the fumble as NCAA rules prevent any 4th down fumble from being advanced. All other in-bounds fumbles can be advanced.
If the ball went out of bounds in the end-zone it’s a touchback. If the guy fumbles the ball at the 3 and the ball goes out at the one, then the ball will be placed at the 3 yard line.
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#102 ST Why would we put Shutter our best QB prospect at linebacker?
Mack’s wins and losses by opponent’s Final Sagarin rankings (2011 – most recent rankings.)
2008: Hawaii’s Sagarin Rank – 91
Wins – 85, 86, 87, 71, 146, 162, 138. (7)
Losses – 1, 13, 105, 12, 115, 34, 53. (7)
2009: Hawaii’s Sagarin Rank – 105
Wins – 170, 126, 100, 153, 138, 38. (6)
Losses – 93, 89, 59, 85, 5, 70, 23. (7)
2010: Hawaii’s Sagarin Rank – 47
Wins – 73, 230, 91, 78, 16, 114, 89, 161, 172, 131. (10)
Losses – 22, 68, 6, 35. (4)
2011: Hawaii’s Sagarin Rank – 80
Wins – 128, 161, 72, 130, 146. (5)
Losses – 32, 148, 99. (3)
Very solid win in 2009 against #38 Navy. Also in 2010 against #16 Nevada.
I really do feel that 2011’s #148 UNLV is a much better team than their ranking indicates.
#188 – 2010 season, loss to #68 Colorado was during the second week of a two game road trip, in high altitude. Just like 2011’s loss to #148 was on the back end of another two game road trip. We should try to eliminate those.
# Hank:
October 30th, 2011 at 2:32 pm
#102…i think Cayman Shutter could do the job as our quarterback…but i don’t know if he’ll have the chance.
I agree Hank. He’s probably the best QB overall that we have…strong arm, great leadership skills, smart, poised, and a good decision maker.
#188:
Now I can see why the displeasure by some on the outcome of games during the 2011 season. This year’s losses to #148 UNLV and #99 SJSU were pretty frustrating for those who were expecting wins by our Warriors. Just like some were frustrated in 2009 with losses to #105 SJSU, and #115 Utah State.
Losses in 2010 to #93 UNLV, #89 LaTech, #85 Idaho, and #70 Nevada were part of a tough season from a team with a lot of injuries.
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#192,
Yep.
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Pride, #188 and 192. Thanks for putting things in perspective.
The experts in the desert have made Hawai’i 3 1/2 point favorites against Utah St. The Sagarin ‘predictor’ calculates Hawaii by 5.
didn’t the officials determine that the fumble by mccarty occurred after he crosses the plane of the goal line. therefore, no fumble and no ruling on advancing the spot by the offense as a result of a fumble.
of roster moves…
kevin spain also played safety in hs. perhaps moving him to a lb position is in the cards since he is surrounded by many qb hopefuls with healthy arms.
what me?
graves walks in at the projected starter this spring.
shutter should enter at number two while he attempts to become both the starter and to solidify if anything his backup role.
mean while, godfrey and higgins move up the ladder.
but, really is there a subliminal message in st’s comment about shutter as a linebacker?
meanwhile i can’t help but to wander aloud…what happened to those jc guys who mack thought would contribute right away?
daley
cofer
doe
gant
leslie
Boo!
Happy Halloween, everyone!!! Be careful on the roads tonight — lots of little spooks wandering around.
Some time today the world’s population will hit 7 BILLION.
#201 – al – I don’t know if Graves gets it or not, I think Godfrey might give him a run for the money. From the little I saw he might make some noise this spring.
Morning, everyone!
Hope you all have a happy and safe Halloween!
Waiting for the conference chips to fall today… hoping to see a clearer view of the college landscape before too long.
Remember, after Saturday’s game, we *fall* back one hour Sunday morning, 05NOV2011 (for those affected by such trivial matters).
Oh wait, Sunday is 06NOV2011.
Pomai . . .
38 – 14 Warriors
Thank you!!!
Great Pumpkin All!
GO WARRIORS!
GO WILDCATS X 2!
Good Morning Tsaikos
Top 402-9
6-7
8-16
24-21
Good Morning Tsaikos
Top 402-9
6-7
8-16
24-21
Sorry about the last post…. this is what I meant to post.
This is Mack’s record and winning percentage broken down by rankings.
Top 40 2-9 18%
40-80 6-7 46%
80+ 16-5 76%
Total 1A 24-21 53%
Against 1AA teams, he is 4-0