The hangover

SALT LAKE CITY — It will be back to the proverbial drawing board when the Warriors resume practicing on Monday.

It should be interesting to see who will be available for practice.

X-rays were negative on the necks of defensive tackles Geordon Hanohano and Siasau Matagiese, but that doesn’t mean they wont miss some time. It appears Matagiese has a better prognosis.

Additional tests will be done on d-lineman Marcus Malepeai’s knee, which is apparently sprained. Malepeai, a defensive end, moved to tackle after the injuries.

Right guard Dave Lefotu’s right arm was in a sling after last night’s game. He’s scheduled to undergo more tests today in Honolulu.

And right tackle Sean Shigematsu exited with an undisclosed ailment.

Beau Yap did well at defensive tackle, but the move deprives the Warriors of their best edge rusher.

Kody Afusia went back to the offense last week. Maybe he will do a U-turn.

Mike Andrade, who did not make the trip while recovering from a variety of ailments, probably will be promoted into the rotation on the defensive line.

It should be another hectic week. The Warriors return to Honolulu today, but will be back on the road for next Saturday’s game against San Diego State.


  1. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 12:36 am

    big time

  2. LizKauai (iPad) September 29, 2012 12:36 am

    God Bless!

    Get Well soon!


  3. LizKauai (iPad) September 29, 2012 12:38 am

    Happy Birthday, Tyler Hadden!

    Hi kama krab!

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  4. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 12:49 am

    that’s great news Hanohano and Matageise will be okay, but i would still hold them out at least 2 weeks from any physical contact. IMO

  5. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 12:52 am

    heal fast to all our injured Warriors.

    man, when it rains, it pours!!!!

  6. longdistance808 September 29, 2012 12:55 am

    Top 10.

    Gotta figure this stuff out. Can’t regress anymore.

    Go Warriors!

  7. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 1:00 am

    yesterday’s blog ended with 808 comments. 8 oh 8

  8. Nakoa September 29, 2012 1:08 am

    Man maybe there is a reason that we’re the first school to offer coach chow a HC position. Offensive genius? Seemed like a stubborn old man last night. Lets move chow to AD and hire a HC who can adapt to situations and has some fire left in his belly. This feels like the last stop on the road to retirement for chow.

  9. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 1:16 am

    before the season started i expected an anemic offense, but the defense and DC is what has surprised me.

  10. Nakoa September 29, 2012 1:35 am

    Sit Schroeder down and give graves a chance

  11. follower September 29, 2012 2:05 am

    After some thought and no excuses, this was hell week for the Warriors: 2games within a week and last 3 days (Wed-Fri) had to adjust to 3 different time zones, boarded 4 flights (approxiamately 15hours total),and checked into a hotel 3xs (LA/Provo). By the time they get home today, they’ll have chartered on and off a bus an estimated 9xs! Not like they didn’t already know and then prob Thursday, back to Cali for SDSU. That’s a complex travel layout and definitely taxing on the players indeed! Just sayin…..

  12. uh fan September 29, 2012 2:33 am

    Would like to see Coach put graves in to do something to our offense. SS is not cutting it for our team. Our Defense has not been great at all, and it’s been that way for a while. UH always had a hard time stopping the run. I still believe we have to give Norm Chow a couple years. Once he gets the players he needs for his system, we’ll be the Boise St. of the MWC. Go Warriors!

  13. 99club September 29, 2012 3:10 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Like the rest of you, I’m very relieved to hear that the x-rays were negative for Geordon and Siasau.

  14. 3-Prong September 29, 2012 3:19 am

    Sawarrior: inability to sustain drives and score points puts added pressure on depleted defense. A bad combination. Remember the days when we would force running teams to throw because they were falling behind too fast.

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  17. keoniAna439 September 29, 2012 3:55 am

    Embarrassing – this is by far the worst football performance that I have seen since the Von Appen years…I don’t believe that once Chow gets the players he got – he will turn it around. Remember JJ had Von Appen players and made them champions. 0-12 to 9-4, Norms system is not working, I wonder how much patience does lower campus have. This is horrible football – this is not Warrior football that I know, all losses to FBS teams have been 40+, it’s horrible, embarrassing, awful, they need to get it together!!

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  19. WarriorNY September 29, 2012 4:01 am

    A couple of interesting stats about our Special Teams….

    Mike Edwards is now #1 in the nation in kickoff return yards…

    Alex Dunnachie has a 48.8 yard per punt average… (that would be second best in the country, if he played more games)

  20. rage777 September 29, 2012 4:06 am

    I agree with KeoniAna439, this is embarrassing. Only from the standpoint that we hired an “offensive genius”, but we don’t have any offense to speak of. It’s hard to blame the defense when they are on the field for most of the game and they don’t get any kind of a break to get their breath back.

  21. mo808 September 29, 2012 4:10 am

    Good Morning Folks!

    Prayers for all the wounded Warriors for speedy recoveries! Happy Birthday Wishes to Tyler Hadden!

    Go Warriors!

  22. funny September 29, 2012 4:12 am

    Maybe the AD begin an effort to reconstitute the weak a$$ WAC.

  23. just saying September 29, 2012 4:14 am

    hawaii looked like a division 2 school ,defense was slow and missed way too much tackles we are making opponents look like nfl teams, still do not know why norm chow does not try another quaterback any quaterback, when we get behind and opponents know we have to pass shroeder is a sitting duck too slow. a mobile quaterback like graves could scramble to give some time too pass or run

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  28. Garret September 29, 2012 4:34 am

    Hopefully all the injured Warriors will be fully recovered soon. All of the injuries will make for tough decisions on the travel roster–UH has a hard limit on how many players can make the trip, and the decision has to be made several days before game day.

    My preference would be to let some of the injured players rest and recover, letting some healthy other players make the trip that can contribute if needed. But the coaches and trainers know the full injury reports and will make the call with all information in hand.

    No matter what, I look forward to seeing the Warriors in person next week. I’ll be there to support the team and hope that things go a lot better than the past few weeks.

  29. Garret September 29, 2012 4:40 am

    One of my wife’s friends from Castle High is visiting San Diego with his wife and daughter, so we had dinner with them while the game was going on. I picked a restaurant that I knew would have the game on (it is a “coincidence” that I suggested that place after the original place they picked didn’t have a TV), so I got to see the first half. I don’t know if I’ll watch my copy of the game today…I can’t remember skipping out on watching a half before, but it sounds like it would be too painful to watch it.

    I would watch the 2nd half to see how well the backups did, but it sure sounds like the starters on offense played until basically the end of the game.

  30. MikeB September 29, 2012 4:43 am

    Chow is not a head coach. Chow was oc under good head coaches, which gave him a respectable standing in the coaching fraternity. Just because you have a good reputation as a offensive coordinator, does not make you a head coach. Hawaii’s football team does not deserve to be embarrassed by a stubborn old retread of a coach who is more concerned about his legacy than his football players, who are busting their butts, only to be constantly yelled at because they don’t fit his system that takes exceptional athletes. He seems to have a hard time relating to young men. Football is supposed to be fun, you see no smiles anymore on the sidelines. Chow is a grumpy old man who should hang it up. I feel sorry for Hawaii’s football program under Chow, because he just plain suck’s.

  31. MikeB September 29, 2012 4:44 am

    Chow is not a head coach. Chow was oc under good head coaches, which gave him a respectable standing in the coaching fraternity. Just because you have a good reputation as a offensive coordinator, does not make you a head coach. Hawaii’s football team does not deserve to be embarrassed by a stubborn old retread of a coach who is more concerned about his legacy than his football players, who are busting their butts, only to be constantly yelled at because they don’t fit his system that takes exceptional athletes. He seems to have a hard time relating to young men. Football is supposed to be fun, you see no smiles anymore on the sidelines. Chow is a grumpy old man who should hang it up. I feel sorry for Hawaii’s football program under Chow, because he just plain suck’s.

  32. mokumanu September 29, 2012 4:44 am

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  33. funny September 29, 2012 4:48 am

    Sooooo, is the love affair with Chow over?

  34. just saying September 29, 2012 4:53 am

    hope coach chow tries to change his style of run up the middle power game and goes to a more mobile quaterback like graves and tweaks the offense to their strengths, because its clearly not working . I dont know if its a pride thing about picking shroeder as the quaterback and wanting to make it work, but if you are not giving other quaterbacks a chance to play and getting blown out ,you will lose the morale of the team and fans and your job

  35. PowderPuff September 29, 2012 4:54 am

    Good morning after….feeling a little blue today. 🙁 But packin’ up and heading to support the Warriors in San Diego.

  36. funny September 29, 2012 5:02 am

    Too bad Iosefa burned up his rs year. Otherwise, he’d be wise to consider transferring.

  37. AlaWai September 29, 2012 5:03 am

    Norm will turn this around! The right players will rise to the top of the depth charts. We will get the recruits to run the WC offense. This is a rebuilding year. We burned the village and are starting from ground zero. Think positive folks. Coach is an island brother. Come out and support him no matter what. Think positive folks.

  38. Shoko September 29, 2012 5:05 am

    Post-game interview last night. Little difficult to hear tho.

    In the interview, Chow was asked if Schroeder was still his guy. He replied, “No question, absolutely no question.”

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  40. 3-Prong September 29, 2012 5:39 am

    Good to hear rhat our two DTs were also released from the hospital and on the chartered flight back last night.

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  42. Pohakupu September 29, 2012 5:40 am

    Ahhh, the Warrior defense is as porous as MCG, and the offense can learn a few tricks from MCG.

  43. 3-Prong September 29, 2012 5:42 am

    #34 you make some valid points, with O-Line affected we may need a more mobile quarterback to buy time and make plays if flushed.

  44. Inyoface September 29, 2012 5:45 am

    Put in Graves! At least the receivers know his style of play, he has more zip on his passes and is a gamer! At least try him out so we at least know.

  45. Gangstah warrior September 29, 2012 5:48 am

    In one of the sports publications Norm Chow was referred to as an “over rated OC”

  46. oldtimer808 September 29, 2012 5:54 am

    Support our Warriors win or lose. Our DC has to rethink his defensive approach in the college game vs the pro game where he had come from. We just don’t have the personnel to blitz especially with the state of our d-line.

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  48. DownSpout September 29, 2012 6:11 am

    On a positive note, we may now crack into ESPN”s Bottom Ten.

  49. Shoko September 29, 2012 6:19 am

    On a positive note: Warriors logged in their first interception (Phillips) of the season.

  50. DaveLetterMan September 29, 2012 6:21 am

    Morning Tsaikos!

    Best wishes to the injured warriors.

    Wow! Only three games into NC’s first year and the haters have come out of the wood works.

  51. rainbowman September 29, 2012 6:22 am

    This offense will not work in hawaii as it requires players we will never get. Mark my words, in two or three years there will be a new head coach…remember WatAppen?

  52. LizKauai (iPhone) September 29, 2012 6:27 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    When a person is in a car accident and gets a whiplash, that is a real injury and needs to be cared for because the whole body is affected by damage to the central nervous system.

    Just because the boys don’t have broken vertebrae doesn’t mean they are ok and ready to play next game.

    There are too many people now hooked on pain killers because they “manned up” and played through injuries that should have been healed first.

    As a team Aunty I say, the game is not worth your life.

    And as for those who are “embarrassed ” or “ashamed” by the loss, ponder on why you feel that way. Team Aunty thinks of a loss like a child falling as it learns to walk or ride a bike. An environment of empathy and encouragement will produce better walkers, riders and football players.


  53. Peter September 29, 2012 6:32 am

    Well, it sure hasn’t taken long for many of the faithful to start crying fire the coach. It’s what makes Hawai fans so special. We are really loyal as long as we win.

  54. Inyoface September 29, 2012 6:46 am

    We’re not haters just passionate fans calling it as we see um. I’m not at all against firing the coach but 2 of the worst losses I’ve seen in awhile causes concern.

  55. rockyk September 29, 2012 6:49 am

    you guys need to kickback and see the big picture.

    the types of changes that have been made take time.

    give it time. were 4 games in, i know i should expect this fickleness from HI fans but it still makes me sick…

    mahalos to all you fans backing the boys through all da difficult times. keep it up.


  56. Inyoface September 29, 2012 6:51 am

    We all know Chow inherited a roster thats pretty thin, so after a full year of recruiting and transfers able to play next year, we will see the full product. I’m not counting this season out, anything still can happen. Go warriors

  57. Kekoa September 29, 2012 6:58 am

    Good morning to all the Warrior fans. These truly are “the times that try man’s soul.”

    Since none of us have a direct impact on change, we must place our faith in our new coach and his staff.

    As painful as it was to watch our young men suffer from injury, it became even more painful to watch the team suffer another horrible defeat.

    This is not life or death. This is football, and it can be corrected. I trust that coach Chow can make the proper adjustments, but it’ll take time, the right personnel, and most of all, our patience.

    When you attend services today, offer prayers to our entire team as well as the injured young men who gave their full measure.

    Have a relaxing Sunday.



  58. lava September 29, 2012 7:00 am

    These players can play, but the coaching is horrific. Predictable play-calling. Boring.

    Chow can’t lead this team to score a single point? One converted 3rd down, on a play the announcers said violated the rules of football (throwing back across coverage). I’ve seen enough. Very unimaginative. Very s-l-o-w developing.

    Schroeder — seen enough.

    Von Appen all over again.

    BYU is a very average team, and we made them look brilliant.

    We are not nearly as bad as Chow and his yes-men assistants are making us look.

  59. uh fan September 29, 2012 7:08 am

    Alright everyone. We need to support our Warrior Football team thru thick and thin. Everyone is saying this are the worst losses to our program… i beg to about the blowouts we received from Fresno St..remember that game..they put 70 points on us..and the multiple blowouts we received from Boise St..and yes that was during the JJ era.. This is Chow’s first year..those blowouts didn’t happen during JJ’s first we need to support our boys..this is the only D1 College football team that we have.. I do hope that Coach Chow puts David Graves in to provide some spark to our offense. Our Defense still can not tackle. This has been a problem for a long time, not this year..our defense couldn’t tackle w/JJ or MacMackin as our football coach..and MacMackin was supposedly a Defensive guru..either way..Coach Chow will turn our program around..maybe not this year..but next year..Go Warriors!!!

  60. lava September 29, 2012 7:13 am

    Hope? Wait until next year? Based on what?

    What recruit is going to want to play for this team after seeing these events unfold. Just look at Graves, who when he isn’t taking reps at qb or receiver will soon be a DT. Tell me your eyes didn’t roll when you saw our best cover corner get a rep as a tailback. Just as it has looked in practices, the team looks terrible in the games. Chow seems clueless as to how the move the ball.

    I can’t think of a single change made by Chow that has made, or will make, this a better team. There seems to be a huge disconnect between Chow and the team.

  61. Loa September 29, 2012 7:13 am

    morning gang!

    healing prayers to the injured warriors

    eh uncle today saturday 🙂

  62. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 7:18 am

    Of course this is disappointing. But to generate only 149 yards total offense is unacceptable. And to allow BYU to run through Hawaii’s defense like hot knife through butter is unacceptable. This makes Coach McMackin and his staff look like coaching geniuses. They were able to win with the same players. I can’t recall seeing Warriior defensive players being laid flat on their backs while attempting or making a block or tackle. They were pushed around like so much rag dolls. Saying this is a re-building year is a poor excuse for this dismal performance. What’s worse is the effect it will have on recruiting. I am dreadfully afraid potential recruits with thoughts of coming to Hawaii will have changed their minds.

  63. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 7:19 am


    Looks like I was too generous with my 5-7 preseason prediction for this year. It’s looking like 3-9 after watching the first four games.

    It’s definitely clear that McMackin left the cupboards bare as far as talent for Chow to work with. Yes, injuries have been a major issue, but it appears that it’s going to take at least 2 good recruiting classes to repair the mess that McMackin left. We are seeing the byproduct of 4 poor years of recruiting under ex-coach Mack.

    I knew this year would be tough because of the transition to a new offense, and new QB. What I didn’t expect was that we are shockingly devoid of any playmakers on offense. I don’t think the WR corp has been this bad since the Vonappen days. There’s been a significant dropoff in WR talent since Greg Salas and K.A. Pilhares (both June Jones recruits) graduated a few years back.

    Now that there’s tape on Chow’s offense, defenses are starting to focus on stopping the run, because UH doesn’t have any big play threats. There’s not enough speed at WR and Schreoder doesn’t have the arm either.

    The offensive line has been down right offensive this year. Shigematsu can’t block anybody and there a ton of inexperience. Size isn’t great and there seems to be a lack of toughness. Like the WR corp, the O-line talent has really dropped off the past several years. Actually, the erosion started back when coach Callahan left UH for Oregon St back in 2004-5.

    Sean Scheoder is doing the best he can, but the O-line can’t protect him and is under constant pressure. Last night vs BYU, I can tell Schreoder is reading the defense correctly (recognizing blitzes and coverages), but either he doesn’t have time to throw or nobody is open to throw to. Schreoder’s job this year is to survive the season and hand the torch to Taylor Graham next season.

    The running back corp is solid and I like the talent there, but without a good O-line, that gets neutralized.

    On to the defense…

    Yikes, UH is really bad. Obviously the D-line is in a bad situation because of all the injuries, but what’s more shocking is the lack of speed and athleticism. Hardy-Tuilau and Edwards are the best players on defense, but the LB corp just isn’t getting it done. Tacking has been poor and they don’t have the speed to cover or run people down.

    One startling fact that I noticed is how few of McMackin’s 2009-10 recruiting classes are starting. Those two classes, which are now upperclassmen, are suppose to be the backbone of the program. Just highlights how poor McMackin was at recruiting.

    Unfortunately, UH followed Washington State’s blueprint for train-wrecking a successful football program… (After a successful coach’s departure, hire an incompetent defensive coordinator that’s a poor recruiter that was on nobody’s radar for head coach candidate).

    The good news is that many of UH’s inexperienced players are getting experience (if they can stay healthy), and Chow has some exciting players sitting this year out/redshirting. If Chow can land a couple quality receivers for Graham to throw to and a few decent O-linemen to protect him, the offense will be light years better next year.

  64. Kekoa September 29, 2012 7:20 am

    Mahalo *Team Aunty* We lucky we get several ‘team’ aunties like her. (They all carry da dreaded Lead Slippah for doze who no lissen to aunty!)

  65. Kekoa September 29, 2012 7:25 am

    Loa ~ I wen fogit today was Saturday! Tanks fo saving me one mo day ‘cuz I bin running out lately!

  66. Loa September 29, 2012 7:26 am

    i believe….

    personally been thru an 0’fer season to a division champion two years later so yea, i believe

  67. A-joe September 29, 2012 7:28 am

    Former UH Athlete-

    Mahalo for your intuitive input.

  68. Will-I-Am September 29, 2012 7:30 am

    Wow, now I understand the phrase “with friends like these, who needs enemies”. Bashing on our team and coaches and having the attitude of “I am just Keeping it real” is sad to see. Would you tell a special ed student he is stupid and then back it up with “I am just keeping it real”? Show some class. Show some respect. Use some tact.

  69. Loa September 29, 2012 7:31 am

    Kekoa – haha .. i thought i overslept. long time no see, hope everything going well with the ohana

  70. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 7:35 am

    Are you equating the coaching staff to special ed students? These are paid professionals that are not getting the job done.

  71. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 7:41 am

    If the defense doesn’t improve by the end of the year, (how can it get worse after the last two games?) Chow is going to have to fire the defensive coaching staff. Too many missed tackles and schematically, UH is getting torn apart.

    Of course injuries have been a major issue also, so that can’t be stressed enough.

    Also, McMackin’s players are used to a laissez-faire coaching style and aren’t used to Chow’s regimented pro-style coaching. That could explain the perceived dis-connect with Chow and the players. As Chow gets his recruits over the next few years, this will become less of an issue.

  72. islandman September 29, 2012 7:46 am

    Thought BYU’s #1, Ross Apo, 6′ 3″, was from Hawaii, but he’s from Texas and speaks Tongan.

    How come UH tries so many runs up the middle ? Do they see something there ? Why not try something else ?

    On a plus note, did you know the UH defense had more sacks than BYU, 4 to 3 ?

  73. Shoko September 29, 2012 7:46 am

    This being Chow’s first year as head coach, I wondered if there would be any coaching changes at the end of this year. I have a feeling Chow will stick with his staff.

    Nevada-Texas State….0-7 Texas.

  74. Will-I-Am September 29, 2012 7:47 am

    No, not that at all. I am trying to say that they are struggling and doing the best they can. Give them a break. I am all for true assessments of the team, but keep them respectful.

    Maybe I am going a little too far. but I just feel fans are throwing in the towel and turning into haters.

  75. Shoko September 29, 2012 7:48 am

    CSU-AF…0-14 AF

  76. Will-I-Am September 29, 2012 7:51 am

    IslandMan, I was wondering the same thing.

    The other play I don’t get is the pass to the sideline behind the line of scrimmage. I wish they would throw it for a gain of at least 2 or 3 yrds. Quick out routs are money in the bank for confidence builders and moving chains.

  77. Jeffdman2000 September 29, 2012 7:54 am

    After watching two of the worst UH performances ever..

    And knowing that after these nationally televised Blowouts that will ultimately kill any good recruits…uh is done . For years… I have free season tickets . Email me at I won’t be supporting this old dried up coach anymore

  78. wafan September 29, 2012 7:54 am

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  79. cocobean September 29, 2012 7:59 am

    #64. I tend to agree with your assessment. When you match BYU and HI starting position for starting position HI comes out on the short end. I don’t think anyone starting on our O could displace anyone on BYU’s O. On D we have two players at best who could start for BYU>

    The only edge we have over BYU is special teams kick returner, long snapper and punter.

    WE need time and game experience for our players to mature.

    Also this is the 2nd game in a row that BYU’s D shut out an opponent. Boise didn’t score a offensive TD against them.

    This is a season that can’t be judged by Ws and Ls. Neither can you judge game to game performance. They’ll be games where we’ll be over our heads talent wise. This is a season to see who’s not giving up, who’s learning something every game, who’s giving more every practice to get better. This goes for the coaches and players.

  80. kifi September 29, 2012 8:00 am

    Wow! Throwing the coaches under bus already. We need to all take a deep breath and think for awhile.

    Trust what you see. Trust what you see. Trust what you see.

    Here’s what you we need to see. When you build a team. Some experts believe that you build a team down the middle. You need to be solid right down the middle. We are very, very, inexperienced right down the middle.

    Name / Years Starting Experience:

    Hawaii 2012

    Joey Iosefa – 1

    Sean Schroeder – 0

    Ben Clarke – 0

    Saui Matagiese – 0

    Art Laurel – 1

    John Hardy-Tuliau – 0

    Hawaii 2006

    RB – ???

    QB – ???

    C – ???

    DL – ???

    LB – ???

    S – ???

    Hawaii 1999

    RB – ???

    QB – ???

    C – ???

    DL – ???

    LB – ???

    S – ???

    Hawaii 1992

    RB – ???

    QB – ???

    C – ???

    DL – ???

    LB – ???

    S – ???

  81. Old School Dave September 29, 2012 8:01 am

    Seems like a lot of the younger players will see playing time due to injuries. They’ll take their lumps, but hopefully, will learn from it, get into the weight room in the off-season, and come back better players next season. Props to Beau Yap, Tavita Woodard, and the other Warriors who were playing they hearts out there in the face of a much more talented and physically superior team.

  82. Last Call September 29, 2012 8:01 am

    Good Saturday Tsai-kos, Tsai-kettes, trolls, and know-it-alls!

    Tsai-kos, Tsai-kettes are trolls and know-it-alls also.

  83. wafan September 29, 2012 8:03 am

    Hope no one gets hurt while jumping off the Warrior bandwagon.

  84. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 8:04 am

    Just remember, we got spoiled when JJ turned the program around in his first year, but went 3-9 in his 2nd year (with a freshman T. Chang). At his first year at SMU, JJ went 1-11.

    Whenever there’s a new coach with a totally new offensive system, it takes 3-4 years to make the transition to get the right players. So don’t mistake this year’s performance as bad coaching. If by year 3 there aren’t significant improvements, then we can say the coach isn’t getting it done.

    Believe me, with the lack of playmakers on this year’s offense, Mack and Rolo would not be doing much better because the run n’ shoot is WR dependent, and this year’s WR corp is flat out awful.

    WR’s with [no speed + no quickness + can’t separate = QB will look bad] No matter who’s playing QB. Add in that the line can’t protect, it compounds the problems.

  85. Old School Dave September 29, 2012 8:05 am

    What separated POWs who survived and those who didn’t survive often times was their mental toughness, will to live, not to mention their hatred of their captors. The ones who gave up and started feeling sorry for themselve, didn’t last long. Of course this isn’t war, but I think you can draw some analogies with the difficulties the Warriors are having now. They need to “get pissed off” IMHO.

  86. kifi September 29, 2012 8:06 am

    Some experts believe that the experience on your offensive line will determine what kind of season that you have. The train of thought is that a solid offensive line gives you great field position and good offensive rythym. Compare, not sure if it works.

    Name / Years Starting Experience

    Hawaii 2012

    LT – Blake Muir

    LG – Kapua Sai

    C – Ben Clarke

    RG – David Lefotu

    RT – Sean Shigematsu

    Hawaii 2007

    LT – ???

    LG – ???

    C – ???

    RG – ???

    RT – ???

    Hawaii 1999

    LT – ???

    LG – ???

    C – ???

    RG – ???

    RT – ???

    Hawaii 1992

    LT – ???

    LG – ???

    C – ???

    RG – ???

    RT – ???

  87. kifi September 29, 2012 8:07 am

    Hawaii 2006

    LT – ???

    LG – ???

    C – ???

    RG – ???

    RT – ???

  88. tommui September 29, 2012 8:09 am


    If they are good tickets, let me know – I’ll take them!

    Things may look bleak and SDSU is no patsy – but you don’t abandon hope if you are a TRUE fan.

  89. Bigislandkurt September 29, 2012 8:11 am

    Personally, don’t think the cupboard was left dry. We have players. Comparing to years past, we cannot deny that the quality of players we have recruited have increased. In short, we have some good players on the team right now. Enough good players? Well, the answer is quite obvious.

    I support the boys regardless, but this one is hard on my warrior soul. Plain, predictable offense. Cannot make any 1st downs. Porous defense. This is the only show in town and this is our pro team. As a fan, I am emotionally invested into this team. We are ones who purchase the season tickets, purchase the ppv’s, re-arrange our lives around football season. It’s hard to not be affected by back-to-back blowouts. It’s harder not to be affected by b2b blowouts and all the BS that went down at Manoa in the past months. UH football is a mess right now, but for all intents and purposes, I still embrace the “rebuilding” notion. Sorry if I don’t handle it as well as some of them more seasoned Tsaikos.

    Support the boys regardless. Yes, I do. But I can’t say I’m happy about what seems to be a regression from what we’ve accomplished in this modern era of warrior football. Winning cures all. Playing hard and competing and not getting blown out — puts a nice band aid on things. Aside from lowly Lamar, we have not felt either of those. San Diego state is no pushoever so the possibility of another loss/blowout looms. Yes, it’s a new year. New Coach. New system. But this should not be happening. Not these blowouts.


  90. kifi September 29, 2012 8:11 am

    Trust what you see. Coaches are doing a good job with the resources that they have. We all need to be patient. We can’t compare them to teams like BYU, Nevada, and USC, who are way superior in talent and experience. Give the coaches time and financial resources and they will turn the program around. Deny them time and resources, and nothing will change.

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  92. Know It All September 29, 2012 8:14 am

    I aint no tsaikette or Tsaiko.

  93. Da Punchbowl Kid September 29, 2012 8:14 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Prayers for quick healing for all those injured from both sides, especially the Warriors.

    Thanks Auntie Liz and Uncle Kekoa for your posts. Its important to keep things in perspective. I’m sure nobody feels worse than the team or the coaches. Like them, we as fans can’t feel sorry for ouselves and must expect more from the Warriors.

    Thanks for your post former UH athlete. Good to get your point of view.

  94. kifi September 29, 2012 8:15 am

    Name / Years Starting Experience

    Hawaii 2012

    LT – Blake Muir – 0

    LG – Kapua Sai – 0

    C – Ben Clarke – 0

    RG – David Lefotu – 0

    RT – Sean Shigematsu – 0

  95. Dennis Halloran September 29, 2012 8:15 am

    It is not the coaches, it is the players. Recruits should want to come here because they will play if they are any good.

  96. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 8:16 am

    On the positive note… I think Hardy-Tuliau, Mike Edwards, and Tavita Woodard are playing good ball.

    QB Schreoder is reading defenses well (but either has no time to throw or when he has time, nobody is open).

    Will Gregory and Iosefa (when healthy) will be an excellent duo in the next few years to build around.

    Can’t wait for Taylor Graham! Hopefully the o-line can get experience and keep him on his feet, because Graham has a big time arm.

    Nice to Dunnachie back… No more of that inconsistent rugby style punt. Nice to see high booming punts again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again, and again.

  97. beau_guss September 29, 2012 8:18 am

    Another blowout on national TV…the honeymoon with Chow is definitely over…#51, you are spot on with your assessment: this offense is not sustainable with the players we get. I’m not drinking the kool-aid with this current staff’s philosophy; bring back the run-and-shoot! At the very least it wasn’t as BORING as this offensive scheme.

  98. Da Punchbowl Kid September 29, 2012 8:19 am

    wafan –

    That’s a good one! 😆 Thanks for the laugh!

    kifi knows wherefore he speaks.

  99. funny September 29, 2012 8:20 am

    If people trust what they are seeing then there’ll be a whole lot more empty seats than usual at AS.

  100. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 8:21 am

    Thing is….even Weber State scored 13 points against BYU… although they lost by a similar number of points 45-13… Their net difference was 32.

  101. wafan September 29, 2012 8:21 am

    Good afternoon, almost, DPK!

    Hope you and yours are doing well.

  102. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 8:23 am


    Name / Years Starting Experience

    Hawaii 2012

    LT – Blake Muir – 0 (Freshman)

    LG – Kapua Sai – 0 (Transfer, 1st year at UH)

    C – Ben Clarke – 0 (Freshman)

    RG – David Lefotu – 0 (Sophmore)

    RT – Sean Shigematsu – 0 (Sophmore)

    Just more proof that McMackin was a terrible recruiter. ZERO upperclassmen starters from the 2009-2010 recruiting classes on O-line.

  103. Will-I-Am September 29, 2012 8:24 am


    Amen! These guys are doing the best they can.

    Edwards, Phillips, Dunnachie and Gregory are all play makers.

    What happened to Sterling Jackson? I though his role would get bigger.

    Lamar 12 carries for 43 yards

    Nevada 4 carries for 18 yards

    BYU 2 carries for 1 yard

  104. Fat Jeff September 29, 2012 8:24 am

    I was thinking this would be a “character building” season and boy are we getting that. Injuries are really taking a toll…let’s all pray for healing for those neck injuries.

    That #9 from BYU sure liked leading with his head, huh? One day he’ll be the guy with the bad neck. Not hoping for that, it’s just inevitable with his hitting style.

    Hang in there fans, parking will be easy at the next home game as the band wagoners will stay home. I’ll be there, 4 season tickets in hand, just like I’ve been for the past 20+ years. Ebb & flow folks, ebb & flow…

  105. kev-1 September 29, 2012 8:25 am

    Very tough to watch a beatdown like that two weeks in a row. I will remain hopeful that we can turn this thing around. There are too many negatives to point out from yesterday’s game, so I’d rather not. It seems that others have already taken the liberty to do so. I just hope we don’t see stubborn coaching decisions. When something isn’t working, you have to try something else. We have not seen that on offense or defense.

    Anyway, off to the next one. Hoping for the health of all injured Warriors.

  106. Will-I-Am September 29, 2012 8:29 am

    Oh, man. I missed out on the free season tickets. bummer. My kid would have been amped!

  107. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:38 am

    10-14 Texas State

    Seems the Bobcats are able to shut down the Packs run game. Jefferson is not the same Jefferson that piled up 7 TD’s last week. Fajardo passing is mediocre as best with one interception and a bunch of incompletes. The Pack could actually lose this one.

  108. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 8:39 am

    Setting the over/under for next home game’s attendance (UH vs New Mexico) at 22,000.

    What’s the play???

  109. Da Punchbowl Kid September 29, 2012 8:41 am

    Yap continues to impress…

  110. gigi-hawaii September 29, 2012 8:42 am

    This is such a negative blog. I don’t want to read it anymore.

    Will be back tomorrow.

    Hope there is more positive vibes here tomorrow!!!

  111. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 8:43 am

    Silver lining for me is I’ll be able to get my single-game tickets in South EZ loge without fear of losing them to season ticket holders. Frankly, I am surprised home game against Nevada did not draw more than 30,000 fans, even with the “Chow-Time” hype and having dismissed Lamar by a score of 54-2.

  112. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 8:43 am

    Nevada 13 — Texas State 14 … 5 minutes left in the first half… Texas with the ball again…

  113. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:45 am

    I would say 30k or just under for the Warriors next game.

  114. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:46 am

    Meant, Warriors next home game.

  115. Former UH Athlete September 29, 2012 8:47 am


    Chris Ault is going to be screaming at his players at half time. He’s a salty old bugger, but he’s a great coach.

    Zero credit goes to Rolo, who’s only Off. coordinator by title. Rolo is basically a QB coach. Ault still runs the show there.

  116. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 8:48 am

    make that 21-13 Texas State on top… 2:46 left in the first half…

  117. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:49 am

    Rolo actually might be calling the game today. I’m seeing more passing attempts.

  118. Da Punchbowl Kid September 29, 2012 8:49 am

    wafan –

    We are blessed here, thanks. Hope things are good at school and the PNW for you.

  119. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 8:50 am

    Not bad for a team that became FBS on July 1, 2012.

  120. Absolute Ave September 29, 2012 8:51 am

    Great job here. I really enjoyed what you had to say. Keep going because you definitely bring a new voice to this subject. Not many people would say what youve said and still make it interesting. Well, at least Im interested. Cant wait to see more of this from you.

  121. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:52 am

    UTSA is doing well too. Larry Coker seems like a good hire.

  122. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 29, 2012 8:53 am


    I saw Ault’s offense at Aloha last week. If Rolo had any say it was too small for a nobody like me to have noticed.

  123. Inyoface September 29, 2012 8:53 am

    If Ron is doing most the play calling, I think Chow should start doing them.

  124. kev-1 September 29, 2012 8:54 am

    is that nevada game on tv?

  125. Da Punchbowl Kid September 29, 2012 8:55 am

    Looking forward to the HS game at Aloha Stadium tonight. Govs and Red Raiders! Think there might be a few recruiers there?

  126. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 8:55 am

    Nevada 20… Texas State 21… 1:41 left in the 1st half… Texas’s ball.

  127. Shoko September 29, 2012 8:58 am

    Yes, its on the Longhorn Network.

  128. kev-1 September 29, 2012 9:00 am

    Oh, no mo dat one. Thanks Shoko.

  129. Shoko September 29, 2012 9:02 am

    You can check if there is an illegal stream on FirstRowSports website.

  130. Inyoface September 29, 2012 9:03 am

    The best defense we had was when Pisa, Laboy, Maá and the Nogas played. I still think 3-4 would be good, it worked in 06 with Glanvilles scheme.

  131. kev-1 September 29, 2012 9:07 am

    I can neither confirm nor deny whether or not I will check for an illegal stream. 😉

  132. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 9:09 am

    I’m just listening to the audio feed and watching the ICS Sidearm Stats for that game…


  133. markazulu September 29, 2012 9:15 am

    Even though we have a 1st year head coach, even though we have a young group of players i believe only started 3 seniors but the loses we have suffered are RIDICULOUS and unexceptable add to the fact ALL 3 HAVE BEEN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. Our Defense which was supposed to be our strong point has been torched what has the scores been (49-69-47) i know its a rebuilding year and it’ll be tough for a while but its so fustrating when i see the effort but we arent even making these a game. I like the changes that coach chow has done so far (warrior walk) but i really hope his staff get things together because they have some talented kids but they are young. It’s nearly impossible to ask for perfection but getting blown out like that on national tv is inexcusable allowing over 200+ rushers in 2 consecutive games, hawaii is better than this.

    I’ll always cheer and ill always support our warriors but i just want them to play better getting shut out is 1 thing only having 169 yards total offense is bad we have been outscored (165-34) against fbs teams.

  134. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 9:17 am

    Allow me to make these corrections/contributions


    LT – Blake Muir – 0 (Redshirt Freshman)

    LG – Kapua Sai – 0 (Transfer, 1st year at UH;was slotted to be starting on Utah O-line)

    C – Ben Clarke – 0 (Freshman/Kody Afusia wss heir-apparent at center, but Ben just beat him out)

    RG – David Lefotu – 1 (Sophmore/returning starting RG from 2011)

    RT – Sean Shigematsu – 1 (Sophmore/Started first two games in 2011 at RT before suffering ACL injury against Washington Huskies)

  135. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 9:25 am

    It’s not just Hawaii suffering from embarrassing losses, but Arkansas is losing to Texas A&M, 58-10, SEC Network/KFVE. Arkansas was thought by some to be ready to contend for the SEC title.

  136. jonj September 29, 2012 9:33 am

    I laugh at all of you people who threw mack in to the fire after he had a injury riddled season! If bryant Moniz didnt go down he has his job and we I would think have a good year just like 2009 when Moniz stepped up for n then 2010 had a 10-4 season i believe Graves would have done the same in fact i believe next year if mack was still here we could have a good shot at BCS! all of our players from last year were young starters n had the chance to develope! but whats done is done hopefully Chow can turn this around my suggestion is play with the hand we dealt n play more RnS throw graves in!

  137. Ipu Man September 29, 2012 9:33 am

    Watching a few college fb highlights today and notice the qb’s who can scamper…

  138. jonj September 29, 2012 9:33 am

    arkansas has a D2 head coach!

  139. jonj September 29, 2012 9:34 am

    Btw david graves is basically a carbon copy of the last two QB’s weve played

  140. masteruke September 29, 2012 9:35 am

    If we want a better team in Hawaii the first thing we locals got to do is get off this idea of

    recruiting da local boys. Every year we have maybe 6 or 7 4 star players but, like the Manti Teo’s of the world regardless of what they say in the press they want to see their names

    on the big screen. As for the rest of the Hawaii players sorry to say but most of them are not even a 1 star in the big picture of football. So, I think that first Hawaii needs to go the JC route and bring a quick fix to this problem that we have. Secondly, Chow got all those name players at BYU and USC not because he was a super recruiter but because of the schools reputation. Look at what he did at UCLA, Utah and the Titans. The results there speaks for themselves. Finally, if its not broke you don’t fix it. Well its broken coach. And if you don’t fix it soon you may see less than 20,000 at the stadium for your next home game

  141. WindwardSide September 29, 2012 9:37 am

    Always will be life long supporter of the Rainbows…er, now the properly macho Warriors. Hawaii & UH wake up! BYU has grown since our great rivalry games and UH is slipping into D2 territory depsite moving into MWC.

    Get back to basics – local recruits, mainland expatriate recruits and heart.

    Thank goodness no very serious injuries last night – great job to our trainers and med’ staff.


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  143. Ginette Magistrale September 29, 2012 9:48 am

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  144. redwarrior September 29, 2012 9:48 am


    Then Graves is playing for the wrong football program. Our offense both last version and this version is nothing like those programs.

  145. Shoko September 29, 2012 9:51 am

    Speaking of Graves, is the young man scheduled to graduate early?

  146. Creta September 29, 2012 9:52 am

    I think I am too late to congratulate. Anyways, keep up the good work dude.

  147. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 9:58 am

    Nevada looks like they made some halftime adjustments and are pulling away.. up 27-21 and knocking on the door again in the 3rd…

  148. Whats up September 29, 2012 10:02 am

    We can blame McMackin and his staff for poor recruiting, we can blame Chow and his staff for poor offensive and defensive play. But regardless of how we spin it the fact that this team is young in experience and learning a new offense and defense and its going to take a few years for the Warriors to grow into the new systems. Add injuries and the even younger less experienced get playing time and that just makes that much more difficult. Notre Dame hired Brian Kelly and the first 2 years they sucked but now with a few years the team has grown into the new offense and defensive system. Or the Texas long horns hired one of Boise State Offense Coordinator 2 years ago and changed defensive coordinator at that same time. And after sucking really bad the past 2 years Texas is making a come back to national respect just like Notre Dame is this season. In the era of instant gradification, nobody wants to wait anymore, you want your fast food, high speed internet and buy everything on credit cards instead of saving to buy something cash. We all have been spoiled by this type of treatment and mentality the Global and American marketing has told us why wait to buy that car or product you can’t afford now, reward yourself and get it now on credit. When in the long run your actually paying way more for the product. Be patient the Warriors will lose a lot of games this season and maybe even next season too. But year 3 and 4 is when we should expect some serious results, especially year 4 is critical, because that’s when we should know whether Chow and his staff are taking the Warriors in the right direction or not. Right now we need to support the young men playing their butts off representing Hawaii. And yes it is OK to express your displeasure with the Warriors losing, because I do. But just keep in mind its going to take time before we know whether Chow is doing the right thing.

  149. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:03 am

    Yep, adjustments were Ault calling the plays again…hehe.

    Seriously tho, I’m seeing more deep passes and I’m not sure if its Rolo’s doing.

  150. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 10:06 am

    Nevada up 34-21… 4th qtr starting

  151. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:06 am

    Fajardo also has 3 passing TD’s and 220 passing yards total. He’s only had four passing TD’s in the last four games.

  152. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 10:16 am

    I think it’s Nevada’s Defense that has made the adjustment and are stopping Texas State’s offense, giving a warmed-up Nevada’s Offense more chances to score in the second half.

  153. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:19 am

    Idaho-North Carolina

    0-35 NC beginning second quarter.


  154. Kaneohe Resident September 29, 2012 10:19 am

    Of course it’s the coaches fault. Definitely! But, have any of you naysayers noticed? Not a single coach was on the field playing! Who knows what the coaches were telling the players to do? I don’t. The coaches have no alternative but to leave execution up to the players. For example, during the opening offensive series by BYU, UH’s tackles were running around the offensive linemen to get to the ball. When they did that, the ball carrier ran right up the middle for a gain. Coach? Player? I couldn’t care who was at fault. I really don’t. That was reality.

    What was evident throughout the game was both defensive and offensive players WEREN’T PHYSICALLY STRONG ENOUGH! Lack of physical strength was apparent to me. In the Nevada game, in addition to strength, physical conditioning was lacking. It seems to me that Hawaii’s deficiencies go far deeper than coaching and lack of players’ experience.

    In my opinion, nutrition, physical conditioning, and weight room training is where we need to start looking into developing our players. Without those basic elements being met, all the coaching and player experience will go for naught. For example, years ago on TV I saw a program on training tables at top universities. Nebraska was one program featured. The food selections was awsome! But, they weren’t the top of the list. Ohio State was. I think, it was at either Nebraska or Ohio State that the player’s nutritional needs were determined. Each player was interviewed by a registered dietician to determine the player’s nutirtional needs. As the players went through the food line, the dietician’s would stand in the the background monitoring what and how much each player took. The sad part about the program was several weeks after the showing, in the Advertiser there was a photograph of UH’s training table…touting a local booster’s effort to provide something for the team. What I gathered from the photograph was a paper plate of scrambled eggs, spam, and rice. That just showed me the difference between UH and top flight football programs at other universities. Unfortunately, I am not able to provide ANY support…I’m retired and living solely on Social Security.

    Besides nutrition, how does the strength development and conditioning stand? I’m not referring to how much weight each player can lift but more importantly, what is their strength AND aerobic capacity?

    I think it’s unfair to critize the coaches without considering other aspects of each player’s ability to perform the assigned tasks and meetiing the desired expectation.

  155. absolute Towers September 29, 2012 10:20 am

    Great job here. I really enjoyed what you had to say. Keep going because you definitely bring a new voice to this subject. Not many people would say what youve said and still make it interesting. Well, at least Im interested. Cant wait to see more of this from you.

  156. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:22 am

    153. Could be. The Packs front seven came out with energy.

  157. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:24 am

    Packs secondary, tho, is still questionable.

  158. Rite80 September 29, 2012 10:27 am

    No play makers on offense? Doesn’t matter. This is not an offense for play makers. This is a ball control game managed offense. If you want to see play makers on offense then you need a play making offense like the R & S, Spread etc.

  159. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:28 am

    Penalties are killing the Pack, again.

  160. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 10:28 am

    Kaneohe Resident,

    I didn’t want to say it, but now that you brought it up. It may be that Coach Chow’s methods depends on a physically superior or equal force to produce results more often than not. That works on the BCS level, but may not be as effective in the mid-major arena. I hope I’m wrong. Really.

  161. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:31 am

    Warriors do have a strength and conditioning coach that was a dietician, if not mistaken.

  162. greentea September 29, 2012 10:44 am

    I never was a coach for any type of sport, but was a US military leader for many years, perhaps same in more ways than none; Chow stays until he either asked to leave or self-resign. This entire pre-season communication Chow has given all of us by saying so long this team gives 100% despite the consequences. As if prophetically, he knew how less talented warriors was going to be. How is that possible? His years of coaching experience; a set of high standards etc. measured to our current players performance precedes the disappointments projected before SC game. Foreknowledge of warriors inability to win big this year. I for one love warrior football, but this year i accept the fact “it is what it is” don’t worry be happy attitude brings meaning for the rest of this season.

  163. Chicken Grease September 29, 2012 10:49 am

    Uhm. Let’s get temporary asylum same as how Dallas fans should adopt another team as long as the Cowboys have Romo on the team (because, well, as long as they have that tur. . . uh, Romo there, they’ll never win a Super Bowl). Uh. Miami Hurricanes, anybody? OK, OK, OK, just joke.

    Think after a certain point . . . UH Warriors might consider a league notch below. You ever BEEN to some of these Div II (example, example, example, relax!!!!) games? They’re really fun! Rockin’! Smaller venue (hey! Can expand that Chang field — FINALLY MAJOR, MAJOR student involvement (“hoahhh, we go walk down to d’a game” says the dormer). Less impactful politics (read: current AD problems [yes, plural]).

    It wouldn’t be lowering expectations. Might have to TRY it (any way to revert back to Div’ 1 is something like this happens?). You know? Is all a Grease is saying. THIS is where change might be good.

  164. Shoko September 29, 2012 10:50 am

    42-21 Air Force

    34-21 Nevada

    Nevada defensive adjustments shutout Texas State in the second half.

    Now, on to the Fresno State – San Diego State game.

  165. G (China) September 29, 2012 10:51 am

    Coach Chow,

    I haven’t verbally supported you, but after defeats like these two, I’m hoping the best for you. When Mack was put out, my hope was that the next coach would be one of character. Character is really forged in adversity so I’m hoping for a turn around for you and the team. With all the injuries, another road trip, the off-season issues, the change of guard in AD, all made it not easy for you, but I appreciate that you are not making any of these as excuses. Blessings going forward.

  166. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 10:54 am

    I onced was asked back to coaching because “we have a very good, talented team and coaches, but we need someone who brings fun and joy to the kids so that they enjoy the season. Seems like the kids and coaches are too serious and nobody is having fun.” I know its hard with the blow out losses on national tv, but, it would be even harder to rebound if they don’t relax and enjoy playing football. I don’t see too many players or coaches smiling, which, in this case, could be hard to do with the expectations and how we are losing.

  167. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 10:59 am


    Unfortunately, the change of guard at AD may have also been facilitated by the hiring of Coach Chow. Remember, JD’s first choice was vetoed by MRC and Chow installed. That created a shift of power since the HC of football wields a lot of power in the athletic department and the vote of no confidence in JD would have affected his authority in the department.

  168. BKekoa ( 9th isle) September 29, 2012 11:01 am

    Dis only da first year! Relax change will come fo da bettah. Next year coach will recruit talent in da needs area. He will start to build a team to fit his style! But fo now be like me give da pts & make money…LOL!

  169. Think2much September 29, 2012 11:02 am

    UH has been beaten badly many times – at Fresno, at Boise and the feeling and comments are the same. Frustration, overpowered, too slow, missed tackles, etc. As fans, we only can judge from the outside. Here is one play that may be indicative of the problem with offense: 1) 1st Quarter UH on at midfield, third and 2. UH comes out in a run formation and gets stuffed for a loss. If BYU is already stout against the run, and their stats prove it, and you tell them that you’re gonna run, what are the chances that they will stop the run? This is the perfect situation to run a trick play or play action. If it fails, you could still punt..or try again. This is being aggressive to keep the drive going. If the offense doesn’t put the D on its heels with trickery and misdirection then it becomes easier to defend. Add to this the fact that too many plays take too long to develop, Schroeder holding the ball too long and staring at one area too long. Also the playing call doesn’t seem to have a consistency or rhythm to it; seems kinda of random. UH can do better in this area.

  170. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:03 am

    One score reported today 70-63. Talk about lack of defense. At least both teams have an offense.

  171. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 11:05 am


    I bet it was a fun game, though… LOL I wonder if any of the teams got fouled for a double dribble or walk?

  172. time September 29, 2012 11:06 am

    There is no such thing as “rebuilding” that is bullsh**. many in the state are just plain blind to what is happening to this program. why is there such a love affair with Chow? What has he done in the last 10 years. this offense WILL NOT WORK in Hawaii. it took June 10 years to get Hawaii to national prominence. it has now taken chow less than half a season to ruin it.

  173. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:06 am

    Sorry, the 70-63 score was West Virginia ove Baylor.

  174. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:06 am

    Sorry, the 70-63 score was West Virginia over Baylor.

  175. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:08 am

    mih~maybe they got into foul trouble. 😮

  176. kifi September 29, 2012 11:11 am

    FBS football is like a gunfight. State of Hawaii budgeted the UH football program to buy brand new, state of the art pocket knives. End of story. Players and coaches are busting their buns and doing the best that they can.

    The numbers don’t lie.

    Just being honest.

  177. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:14 am

    Another fun game. Tennesee-Georgia, 30-30 at the HALF!

  178. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 11:16 am

    We can only wait and see. If it turns out to be like Von Appen’s years… then it would behoove the admin to find someone like Nick Rolovich to take over the reins. If Coach Chow can turn things around by 2014, UH will be in good stead for years to come. If not, bye bye Sheraton Bowl. But Coach Chow will need to produce a 10 win season by 2015, otherwise fans will diminish through attrition.

  179. gobows September 29, 2012 11:17 am

    #103 be real and include jj too…

    on a good note, manti teo is being talked about in the heisman conversations.

    1420am radio coverage of uh football games suck…somebody tell veneri to correct curren’s mistakes for the sake of the listening audience.

  180. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:20 am

    Just a thought. If MCR and staff did bring in coach Chow and we are taking a beating, then hopefully, they feel that they were right to bring him in but, now know he needs more support for facilities and such. They won’t take the blame for their downfalls so support the program more. Garrands, the way things are going, attendance will not improve so we may be getting more into a hole.

  181. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 11:25 am

    gobows~ I was tempted to turn off the volume on the tv and listen to the radio play by play because the tv people kept talking about other things instead of the game (who could blame them in a blow out and only game on a Friday night). I wanted to know who was in the game for Hawaii. I really need a program! I forget, but I think the tv didn’t even notice that Shudder came in the game at the end to hand off 3 times before time ran out.

  182. gobows September 29, 2012 11:27 am

    #170 what you see will be the norm. it’s not about being smart, successful, or winning. at least the run and shoot gave the team a punchers chance against almost everybody.

    trying to run smash mouth football with undersized overweight out of shape linemen will get you a lot of 3 and outs.

  183. Manoa September 29, 2012 11:33 am

    Chow is making a big mistake if he really is putting this program on a wait and see in three years.

    He should be trying for the quick fix first with some results then go for a long term building of his system. In three years, if Chow is still around, he will be ready to retire.

    We are wasting talent at receiver– Stutz, Davis, Gant, Bright, and at QB– Graves, and Schutter now relegated to number 2’s. Norm’s passing game is receivers running routes without adjusting to the defense, so they are always covered even when a defender makes a misstep, no change in route and Schroeder can not get a pass off. Run some adjusting pass patterns so we get receivers open, spread the field so we can run and see running like we had with Alex Green and Nate Ilaoa– not the 3-4 yards up the middle. Get the QB in the shotgun full time. I know Norm can do that and in hindsight he sees his mistake not doing that. He should adjust immediately. He can run those things and he has. So has Tommy Lee. Norm also ran the pistol for two years and he can borrow some of that to get more running– right now we cannot run and we cannot pass.

  184. makes interesting reading

  185. time September 29, 2012 11:40 am


    great post Manoa. i just dont see Chow doing any adjusting. i dont think he thinks its his system!

  186. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 11:49 am

    How long can the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl last without Hawaii as a player?

  187. Ipu Man September 29, 2012 11:50 am

    Kudos to Weber State. Isn’t that where the Hawaii players who are

    deemed not good enough for UH play?

  188. Ipu Man September 29, 2012 11:53 am

    Kudos to madeinhawaii #101:

    “Thing is….even Weber State scored 13 points against BYU… although they lost by a similar number of points 45-13… Their net difference was 32.”

  189. Ratbird September 29, 2012 12:02 pm

    I feel bad for Norm Chow. So successful as an assistant coach on the mainland. A Fred Von Appen clone at UH. I like Robocop but he’s too slow, can’t scramble. Get’s off the pass too slowly. I don’t undertand why Norm left Robocop in all game against Nevada and BYU. Give the backups a chance in games already determined outcome. Losing is contagious. Their losing defensive lineman to injurys like Kamekaze pilots going to war and not returning. They may have to suit up Bula’ia soon. We got decent receivers but not money receivers like Jason Rivers, Greg Salas, Devon Bess. I can’t wait to see Taylor Graham next year. I like Robocop but now I see why he never started a Div 1 game till he came to UH. I don’t know the answers. No Holiday Bowl this year again.

  190. lava September 29, 2012 12:04 pm

    I also don’t see Chow adjusting. He looks older and more out of touch every game.

    I disagree with those of you pointing to McMackin’s recruiting. As but one example, LB Justin Vele made a ton of plays at Farrington, and has the tools to be a very good LB. So Chow buries him in the depth chart at fullback.

    The talent is here, but Chow is overwhelmed and making all the wrong personnel moves.

    Texas State game Nevada a better game than Chow.

  191. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 12:06 pm

    I’m surprised that Coach Chow hasn’t put in his back ups in the fourth quarter during these blow out games. I mean, I can understand his “we haven’t given up” attitude.. but you gotta know when it’s not going to happen and make the best of the experience for the ENTIRE team and not just the starters who get weary and more injury prone…

  192. Whats up September 29, 2012 12:11 pm

    I not saying Chow is going to turn the Warriors around in 3/4 years but if he does, the same folks nay saying him now, will be the very ones singing his praises. I for one don’t like the Warriors losing, but I going to wait to see just like I did with McMackin in his 4th year. Then make a judgement, it way to early to know anything if Chow and his coaching staff are taking the Warriors in the right direction. Because if Chow does turn it around in future seasons, I don’t want to be a hypocrite. Chow is experienced smart man let him work it out in the 3/4 seasons or we will complain and oust him out just like with McMackin in his 4th season.

  193. Old School Dave September 29, 2012 12:15 pm

    Good points #155 – Kaneohe Resident. I was surprised at how physically weak and slow the Warriors looked against Nevada. Same with BYU. Perhaps the strength and conditioning methods need to be evaluated? Nothing against Tom Heffernan, but most times when a new head coach comes in, he brings in his own S&C guy. Probably comes down to having more funding ($$) for things like hiring a new S & C coach, a full-time sports nutritionist, a year-round training table. Last I heard, a lot of players are still living off of Taco Bell, Pizza Hut, & L & L.

  194. Stiguy808 September 29, 2012 12:17 pm

    Back in the Von Appen years I loved going to UH games because it was such a value. I would find free parking near where Costco used to be and buy my tickets from season ticket holders who had extras. I don’t think I spent more than $10 for a single ticket and often times got them for free. There was plenty of room in the stadium with zero drunk and obnoxious fans. I could sit virtually anywhere I wanted. It was the cheapest and most entertaining way to spend my Saturday nights win or lose.

    When JJ took over the team started winning and obviously things changed. Parking was harder to find, tickets were harder to come by, and drunk fans made the experience less enjoyable. I still attended the games because UH is my team and Hawaii at home in the month of November was truly magical back then. At some point I got tired of jockeying for loose tickets and became a season ticket holder. Win or lose I still find enjoyment in watching UH play at Aloha Stadium.

    Chow has what it takes to make UH competitive again. He needs to work on being a better game manager and field general. JJ was great on game day but treating young men like seasoned

  195. Old School Dave September 29, 2012 12:19 pm

    BTW, speaking of programs investing in facilities, Utah State has begun construction on its new 20,000 sq ft strength and conditioning center. It will be the largest one of its kind in the MWC when completed. There’s a definite correlation between improving facilities and program success in terms of recruiting and player development.

  196. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 12:26 pm


    I think the same. Recruiting is cyclical in that your starters eventually graduate… if they are four year starters, that’s four years in which your second best was a back up and there is a good chance they might graduate at the same time… When Mack took over, didn’t he only have a couple of starters on his Offense? Half of his defense? Win 7 games? The QB we were counting on followed JJ… our starting QBs got injured early … 3rd string Funaki took the reins..and the RnS became an Option offense with a moving pocket. The next season, we had a solid starter in Greg Alexander.. but not for long.. then other issues with the other back ups and suddenly way down the line of backups.. Moniz gets the nod… We didn’t make it to a bowl that year but we got close… Along the way, McMackin installs Aranda and Rolo and DC and OC and the following season Hawaii wins 10. The next season, for whatever reason, things fall apart… more like some sort of dissention among coaches… and as such team play suffered drastically. So we lost McMackin to the politics… as well as his protoge’s, Rolo and Aranda. But we had the players installed for a successful season of RnS if we had kept the system with Rolo and Aranda. We had the QB in Graves/Shutter/Higgins/Alo … the receivers in Ostrowski, Clapp, Stutzman, Davis, Doe, Bright, Gant, Harding, etc… Our Oline would be young but no worse than 2008, probably better. We have a crop of very good RBs for the RnS in Iosefa, Jackson, and Lister. Defensively we have players that can make a difference… Mike Edwards, Tuilau, Dee Maggit, George Daily Lyles, Art Laurel and others…

    Just need the right system for them to excel at…

  197. Stiguy808 September 29, 2012 12:27 pm

    Back in the Von Appen years I loved going to UH games because it was such a value. I don’t think I spent more than $10 on a single ticket and often times got them for free. There was plenty of room in the stadium with zero drunk and obnoxious fans. I could sit virtually anywhere I wanted. It was the cheapest and most entertaining way to spend my Saturday nights win or lose.

    When JJ took over the team started winning and obviously things changed. Parking was harder to find, tickets were harder to come by, and drunk fans made the experience less enjoyable. I still attended the games because UH is my team and Hawaii at home in the month of November was truly magical back then. At some point I got tired of jockeying for loose tickets and became a season ticket holder. Win or lose I still find enjoyment in watching UH play at Aloha Stadium.

    Chow has what it takes to make UH competitive again. He needs to work on being a better game manager and field general which will come in time. JJ was great on game day but treating young men like seasoned professionals hurt the team on many an occasion. Too many guys flying around with plenty of heart but no control or discipline. Personal fouls and unsportsman penalties killing drives and momentum. Under Chow I see our guys approaching the game with the same blue collar attitude that makes Boise State so special. I welcome this change of coaching philosophy. Mac got our guys turned around in the classroom now Norm will get our guys humble, hardworking, and res

  198. Stiguy808 September 29, 2012 12:36 pm

    Back in the Von Appen years I loved going to UH games because it was such a value. I don’t think I spent more than $10 on a single ticket and often times got them for free. There was plenty of room in the stadium with zero drunk and obnoxious fans. I could sit virtually anywhere I wanted. It was the cheapest and most entertaining way to spend my Saturday nights win or lose.

    JJ took over and the team started winning and things changed. Parking was harder to find, tickets were harder to come by, and drunk fans made the experience less enjoyable. I still attended the games because UH is my team and Hawaii at home in the month of November was truly magical back then. At some point I got tired of jockeying for loose tickets and became a season ticket holder. Win or lose I still find enjoyment in watching UH play at Aloha Stadium.

    Chow has what it takes to make UH competitive again. He needs to work on being a better game manager and field general which will come in time. JJ was great on game day but treating young men like seasoned professionals hurt the team on many an occasion. Too many guys flying around with plenty of heart but no control or discipline. Personal fouls and unsportsman penalties killing drives and momentum.

    Under Chow I see our guys approaching the game with the same blue collar attitude that makes Boise State so special. I welcome this change of coaching philosophy. Mac got our guys turned around in the classroom. Chow will get our guys humble and hardworking. When opposing teams talk about The Warriors they will say, “That’s a hard hitting AND disciplined team.”

  199. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 12:40 pm

    Utah State is doing well with Aranda as DC… 3 wins, 1 very close loss… Nevada with Rolo is going just as well… 4 wins, 1 very close loss…. it will be very sad should we have to look back retrospectively years from now only to discover that these two went on to incredible careers elsewhere. Sort of like Paul Johnson from Wagner’s years.

  200. Stiguy808 September 29, 2012 12:42 pm

    Sorry for the multiple posts. Not sure why it happened.

  201. papajoe2 September 29, 2012 12:52 pm

    In the vonAppen days, the start time for our home games were 7/7:30. In Hawaii, most families have 2 working adults. If you work on a Saturday, chances are you finish work at 4/5 or even 6:00pm. It makes for less family time at the stadium tail gates trying to hurry up for the game. Less family time = not attending or PPV time. Unfortunately, the 7pm time miss the East Coast media deadline for the night and would not be reported until Monday morning, which is NFL reporting time. To bring the families back, (which leaves an impression on the youth), maybe some of the games, even this year with no starting time yet, can be played at 7 or 7:30 pm. We’re paying for charter flights anyway, the visitors could still catch a plane home after the game. Noticed the years before ppv and the earlier start time, that they’re more people in the stands? In today’s day and age of the internet and instant media, maybe the later starting time is possible again. Not for national televisied games though, but an option in signing the contract with another school is time of the game would depend if it’s national or regional tv.

  202. Shoko September 29, 2012 1:05 pm

    I don’t feel so bad now.

    North Carolina 66 – Idaho 0

  203. follower September 29, 2012 1:11 pm

    UH has speed on Defense, you’ll find them waiting on the sidelines! Wake up Coach, if it aint working..rotate out!!

  204. lava September 29, 2012 1:21 pm

    Here is hoping we get better soon. You can do it Coach Chow. Surprise us critics.

    Here is a link to the CFL Toronto feed.

  205. 3-Prong September 29, 2012 1:42 pm

    In the face of this adversity, it is refeeshing to hear from some new voices with new and varied perspectives. Ultimately, we all (well almost all….hehe) look forward to improvement in the upcoming games and seasons. Keep posting everyone. Go Warriors!!!

  206. AllG September 29, 2012 1:54 pm

    I really think we need to make a change at QB. Schroeder is a tough guy, but he is not getting it done, plain and simple. He stares down his receivers all day and doesn’t know how to throw his receivers open. I like Graves, I think he brings more excitement to a boring offense and at this point it really doesn’t get any worse. Crowds at the game will get smaller and smaller. At least a change will bring some hope, whether it works or not.

  207. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 1:56 pm

    I wouldn’t be suprised if Cayman Shutter gets the nod in the near future.

  208. AllG September 29, 2012 1:58 pm

    I agree with #184. At this point we should go back to some variation of the Run and Shoot. We don’t have the players needed to run a Pro Style. Put in Graves, go 4 wide, and throw it around. We can use the tight end and full back in goal line and short yardage situations.

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  210. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 29, 2012 2:01 pm

    LSU struggling against Towson State. Hahaha

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  211. Hawaiianbod September 29, 2012 2:02 pm

    Healing prayers for all the injured Warriors.

  212. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:04 pm

    I dunno, but it seems that Chow is really set on Schroeder. Unless he gets hurt I don’t see any of the backups getting in the game.

  213. BigHiloFan2 September 29, 2012 2:08 pm

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    I believe we hired a great coach. Still do.

    I believe he knows what he is doing. still do.

    I admit its been painful. very painful

    but I still believe in our Warriors.

    Go Warriors.

  214. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 2:09 pm

    Didn’t Shutter make three hand offs late in the game?

  215. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 29, 2012 2:11 pm


    Ok fine. On defense though, Kaumeyer better get his crap together. 4 games in already and I see us going backwards. Get the tackling squared away for Christ’s sake.

  216. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:15 pm

    Painful, yes. But not anymore painful than other games that the Warriors have lost in the past. Maybe I’m desensitized.

  217. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:17 pm

    Yes, Shutter did get playing time. But nothing that can be considered significant.

  218. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 2:20 pm

    Except maybe for the coach to assess how he performs under the lights.

  219. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:20 pm

    As Chow said when asked if Schroeder is “still the guy” at the one spot. He said, “No question. Absolutely. No question”. I dunno, but to me that sounds like he’s set on him for the duration.

  220. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:22 pm

    221. Could be. Guess we’ll find out when someone other than SS steps on the field at the start.

  221. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:24 pm

    I use to think UNLV was a sure win before the season started. I’m having doubts now.

  222. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 2:26 pm

    Got to try something different… otherwise, nothing’s going to change.

  223. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 29, 2012 2:29 pm


    Any team we play with a half decent run game will make life miserable for us.

  224. chowDER September 29, 2012 2:30 pm

    put in shutter and pass the damn ball. this smash mouth bull is not working. we have good wr’s, use them.

  225. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:32 pm

    Well, UNLV does appear to have a decent run game in Cornett. They’re doign well so far against USU.

    I think we might see mroe playing time for Shutter or Graves in the future, now that I think about what you said, MIH.

  226. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:37 pm

    Yikes! 32-29 Boise State with NM with the ball and over two minutes to play.

  227. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 2:39 pm

    The only way Shutter or Graves can get more playing time is if they execute as planned each time they are given a chance to. Then they get another play.. and then another.. and makes it an earned transition rather than a desperate one.

  228. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:40 pm

    UTSA 14 – NMSU 7

  229. Ipu Man September 29, 2012 2:43 pm

    Congratulations (again) to Chad Owens.

    He got over 3,000 all purpose yards…1st in CFL!

    And he may get 4,000 by season end.

  230. HiFlyer September 29, 2012 2:45 pm

    Does anyone know the current stats for Schroeder so far this year?

  231. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:47 pm

    230. Sure, thats seems logical. However, some coaches just get so attached with their starter its hard for backups to earn that spot.

    I think the relationship between Chow and Schroeder is similar to BYU’s Mendenhall and Nelson. Chow’s philosophy might be: In Schroeder we trust. (until he gets hurt)

  232. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:48 pm

    233. Hold on, let me look it up for you.

  233. Shoko September 29, 2012 2:51 pm

    It hasn’t been all that bad with the exception of last nights game.


  234. HiFlyer September 29, 2012 2:58 pm

    Thanks Shoko

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  238. oldtimer808 September 29, 2012 3:17 pm

    I feel the pain and I like Coach Chow but he really needs to dig down deep and come up with a plan. We have the players but for some reason the players are not playing with passion or enough passion. Our defensive strategy needs a lot of adjusting. The blitzing schemes and aggressive style of play are creating seams in our defense which is creating bad tackling angles. The opposing running backs are running thru too many arm tackles which means bad angles and over running plays.

  239. performance coach September 29, 2012 3:18 pm


    Just finished watching my third son play at Mount Sac. Mount Sac was JC National Champions in 09 and 10, 8th in the Nation last year, barely losing in the CA State Championships to Powerhouse San Francisco CC (Rolo, Masoli, and Jake Heun). This year Nick Montana transfered to be Mount Sac’s QB and gain experience. They are currently 5 and 0. Local boys abound on this team and they are winners! So don’t think or say that Hawaii Boys cannot play ball. Coach Chow will be fine, just give him the time. Coach Mac was a fine Coach, the only reason that we lost so much in his last season is because two of his main ball handlers kept on coughing up the ball. I am a performance Coach. Two of my boys have made it to the NFL. I know that fumbling is the biggest sin against your team, and I make sure my players know that. This team is loaded with TALENT. How can anyone say that there is not enough talent here? That is just plain silly. Coach Mac and his staff were good. Fumbles messed his last season up. Coach Chow will be good. He just needs the time. There is talent here, but he needs to find himself as a Coach first. And Whitey and Kev1, where are all your wise remarks now?

  240. oldtimer808 September 29, 2012 3:22 pm

    Again win or lose still have to support our student/athletes and to those of you who do not appreciate all the effort these student/athletes have to endure please show some consideration and stop with this calling the team junk or the team sucks or is this a reflection of your own life.

  241. Inyoface September 29, 2012 3:26 pm

    LSU has a much easier 4 game start than we do.

  242. islandman September 29, 2012 3:36 pm

    New Mexico not so easy this year, they lost to Boise only 32 – 29 today. UH plays them one week after San Diego State for homecoming game.

  243. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 3:38 pm

    In Sportshawaii… people are commenting on how Coach Chow showed up to the post game interview sporting BYU colors. Shoots, after that drubbing… I’d want to look like a winner, too.

  244. Eric September 29, 2012 3:49 pm

    You think UH has it bad. We’re 1-3 and our lone win is against a 1-AA school. We have a new coach with new systems in place for offense and defense. We’re gunning for a Hawaii Bowl berth. We lost to a #1 ranked team on the road by 40 points.

    Arkansas is 1-4 with a loss against a 1-AA school. They lost to a #1 ranked team at home by 52 points. They have an interim coach who had a Heisman Trophy candidate. They were talking about a National Championship.

    Before you start whining, grumbling, bithching and calling out Coach Chow, think of how the Arkansas faithful are feeling?

  245. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 3:57 pm

    247. who cares how arkansas feel, the Warriors are our team. arkansas is THEIR problem.

  246. Eric September 29, 2012 4:01 pm

    248-take it easy.

  247. NinjaWarriorTurtle September 29, 2012 4:11 pm

    Schroeder’s passing stats thru 4 games: 73/129 (57%); 800 yards.

  248. 99club September 29, 2012 4:15 pm

    Kurt Suzuki 2-run double in the 10th for the Nats…folks heading for the exits in St. Louis.

  249. jonj September 29, 2012 4:27 pm

    how does anyone think coach chow gonna be able to recruit top recruits if we getting our ass handed to us game in and game out?? We are not Notre Dame and we are NOT Texas n dont ever compare us to them (maybe one day but not yet)!! we dont jus get 4-5 star recruits jumping in our laps! If u really watch the Lamar game our offense looked lame aswell! If hes a offensive guru and has the RnS in his pro offense why not make it more RnS with glimpses of the pro especially with the people we have already?!?! As for our Defense IDK what to say, yea we lost 3-4 DT’s. So lets adjust n run a 3-4!!

  250. hightide September 29, 2012 4:44 pm

    CHOW should lose the PRO-SET OFFENSE and concentrate on trying to win some games before it really gets out of hand. It would be to late if we get another blowout this coming week. Go for some wins and instill the PROSET next year.

  251. AllG September 29, 2012 4:51 pm

    Going into this season my main concern on defense was our depth at DT. And unfortunately our best run stopper went out for the year in the second game. We are going to have to put up a lot of points on offense to be competitive with any one, plain and simple. And Schorder is not that type of gun slinger.

    On defense we are going to have to go with lighter, quicker guys, and should maybe go to the 5 wide D that the Eagles employ, that is geared at rushing the passer. We are not going to be able to stop the run regardless. So lets make it hell for them to pass and not let them break off any big runs. Maybe we could switch to a 3-4 as well?

  252. whitey September 29, 2012 4:54 pm

    yes sir, yes sir, don’t say nothing cause performance coach knows everything and to top it off he uses my name when I neva said anything about the team performance this season. I guess when I say happy birthday to any of the tsaikos, in his mind I must be criticizing the warriors. In fact, I cannot recollect posting anything about any game this season, so performance coach is also a seer. Yes sir, yes sir. Need your shoe shined performance coach????

  253. Derek September 29, 2012 4:59 pm

    I was at the BYU game. Sad case. I expected UH to score a minimum of 10 points. Nada. Defense was shredded. Offense was inept. Schroeder regressed. Many of his throws were dangerously close to being picked off and taken to the house. I have seen enough so far so I’ll make a prediction right now. 2-10. Warriors will not beat UNLV or New Mexico at home. Road games will all be losses, badly. Saturday at San Diego St. will be ugly and I’m going to be at that game too. Our tour group are rabid UH fans and the truth hurts. Calling a spade a spade, that’s all. I wish otherwise.

  254. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 5:01 pm

    next win, South Alabama. 2-10

  255. whitey September 29, 2012 5:08 pm

    performance coach, you da man. Where you was for the usc game? me I was in Alaska fishing. Where you was for the Lamar game? me, I was on Lanai hunting sheep. Where you was for the BYU game? me, i was in transit and returning from a golf tournament on the mainland. Oh, yeah porget, there was a game with unr and i was in the dark side. See, that’s why you da man (who speaks with forked tongue).

  256. whitey September 29, 2012 5:19 pm

    performance coach, congratulations to Mt Sac and best wishes to them in their pursuit of the jcc championship. I guess maybe I shouldn’t have said that cause now you going blame me if they lose.

  257. iwonderwhytheyhateme September 29, 2012 5:36 pm

    When was the last time anyone heard Washington State being competitive?

    Oregon leads but not by much. 23-19

  258. Think2much September 29, 2012 5:43 pm

    This season is really going to be interesting because as much as Chow puts it on the player about building character thru adversity, this is as much as a test of their coaching skills and competency. Size and speed are not factors because if UH doesn’t have it, they shouldn’t compete. Every team has size, speed, skills and weaknesses. The problem is utilizing it the best way to get a win. The coaching staff still has to learn to win together. As far as quarterback, next year they have Graham.

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  262. cavewarrior September 29, 2012 6:31 pm

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  263. islandman September 29, 2012 6:33 pm

    Someone mentioned earlier that June went 1-11 in his first year at SMU; then 8-5 (6-2 in conference) , 7-7 ( 6-2) , 8-5 (5-3) last year.

  264. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 6:47 pm

    231. UTSA 35, NMSU 14.

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    After just one year as an FCS team, UTSA is now transitioning to FBS status and just had their first FBS game, and win— they are now 5-0 This football program just got approval for a football team in 2008! What the heck is wrong with UH!!!!

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  270. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:18 pm


    What the hell are you talking about “where are my wise remarks?” what the heck did I say? If you are going to throw my name around, you better be a bit more specific chief!

  271. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:21 pm

    I think I have been pretty darn supportive of this team when others have not. So you better check yourself, performance coach.

  272. madeinhawaii September 29, 2012 7:23 pm

    Maybe he’s talking about me?

  273. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:25 pm

    and I haven’t seen whitey post anything for quite awhile if I’m not mistaken

  274. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:26 pm

    kidding, he’s been posting today. just sayin’ . . . I like to know when I did something wrong

  275. SAWARRIOR September 29, 2012 7:29 pm

    273. yeah, i read that post and was like “what?!” kev-1, u have always been respectful of the team and everyone on this board, maybe P.Coach had u confused with someone else. I’m kinda a …., nvm.

  276. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:34 pm

    I’m sure I have my moments too. I know I can be a wise a$$ to lava sometimes when he makes his digs, but I think he can handle

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  278. kev-1 September 29, 2012 7:52 pm

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  281. Moocher September 29, 2012 8:53 pm

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    even or haole coaches wore leis but a local boy does not?

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  282. AlaWai September 29, 2012 9:50 pm

    If Hawaii wants a top grade football program, a number of things must change. It starts at the top by getting Admin’s who know what they are doing. It takes getting rid of the the left wing profs who could give a sh*t about football. It takes accepting all the fed grants for research in areas where the left don’t want the university researching. It takes alumni and corporate donors to fund and build a real facility to attract players whose only goal is to play at the NFL level. Then and only then will the top local talent stay home. Sun & Surf are not the magnet some believe it to be. If we want to be big we have to believe big. Otherwise, plan a program around an FCS budget and play in an FCS conference. We can go 13-0, have an FCS Bowl here and the students would support it because most don’t know or care about the difference. Look at the big boys in FBS. Its the alumni who cares about football and pay for it. Dr. Chow and Co. are first class craftsmen working with outdated and inadequate tools. Step-up Hawai`i or get off the stage. We are at an intersection folks. Which road should we take?

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    NEVADA 34, Texas State 21

    Oo… For those of you that don’t know, Texas State is in it’s 1st year as a D1 (FBS) school. Texas State loss to “BIG BAD” Nevada (by just 13 points) who destroyed us by 45 points, 69-24. Texas State had the lead at the half, 21-20. Texas State is a new FBS school being competitive—is that too much to ask for?!

    A few of you want to keep on making the lame excuse, “new coach, new system, we young etc..” there’s no excuse for our guys to get blown out by 45 and 47 points, and in the process looking so inept like a bad D2 (FCS) program— NO EXCUSE. Nevada and BYU are not USC, ‘BAMA, LSU etc…

    Like i’ve said before, i expected those losses, and can accept those losses, but not the complete dismantling/destroying of our team, and letting it go because of “new system, coach, young players etc…” Our defensive scheme blows, same defense we played against USC on through BYU. One speed, 5th gear, no other gears.

    Our opposing teams saw tapes and are destroying us, they know what we do. SDSU will destroy us if we don’t disguise coverages, play some zone to go with the press-man coverage etc… If we had 11 dominant defensive players we could get away with the philosophy we are using, but we are not ‘Bama. MIX IT UP!!!!

    Good lord! give our boyz a chance DC!!!

  295. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 4:29 am

    283. JJ is doing fine in Texas. yesterday SMU had their chance to beat a ranked TCU team, but their QB Garret Gilbert suks. I have watched all of SMU’s games this year and they are way better than us. SMU’s only problem is their QB.

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  300. 99club September 30, 2012 4:46 am

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  301. mctruck September 30, 2012 4:54 am

    I felt that our defense was going to be the bright spot on the team; but???, “hot knife cutting through butter.” I’m in awe at how easy the opposition has made it look to score on us.

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    Hope coach chow reads this blogs, lots of good and bad comments but mostly to bring into discussion of what they are seeing on the field and changes that could help the team win or get better. I think coach chow is a good coach, but has too just step back and reasess and tweak the offense to their players strenghts. They have a lot of good players but not are suited for his pro style offense . with iosefa out they dont have a strong running back,yet they still use will gregory on power runs and not use his speed on outside runs . sean shroeder may make better decisions when you have the option of run or pass , but does not very mobile when it comes too pass only when you need to score points.I think the team will get better as he recruits players to suit his offense, but good coaches makes adjustments too maximize their potential too win.

  303. Shoko September 30, 2012 5:06 am

    The Warriors could use a bye week to prepare for their next game. Seems they have alot of things to work out.

  304. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:07 am

    we have the players to be competitive, especially on defense, it’s the schemes and philosophy that is off. IMO

    No ways should a first year FBS program like Texas State be more competitive against Nevada than our Warriors, no ways. We will get smashed by SDSU by at least 30 points if our DC doesn’t change it up. Game planning against our D is easy for any D1 program. IMO

    Our Offense is easy to game plan against also, but that’s a personal problem we have there. Throw 8 in the box, blitz and our opponents will kill us. IMO

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    56    –    10    Kekoa

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    307. sry, personnel* in place of personal. 🙁 i wish we had an edit button.

  312. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:54 am

    Pomai, SDSU 41, Hawaii 10

  313. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 5:57 am

    Na Koa luncheons with the coach’s descriptions of what happened are very vague in comparison to the last 2 regimes. I get nothing from them.

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  315. kkobi425 September 30, 2012 6:08 am

    After reading the SA article where Coach Chow takes full responsiblity just curious how much more “south” the team needs to go before there’s a change at qb?

  316. SAWARRIOR September 30, 2012 6:16 am

    Coach Chow should take full responsibility, it’s his team! lol

    Make some changes in schemes and philosophy that fit your personnel coach. You guys keep doing the same predictable stuff, what do u expect the results to be?! Chow’s play calling so far reminds me of coach Ron Lee.

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  319. obachan September 30, 2012 6:36 am

    Speaking of change in offense, too bad we don’t play LA Tech anymore. Would have liked to see how they run their offense with the center instead of the QB calling all their plays.

  320. Inyoface September 30, 2012 6:37 am

    I say run the r&s with a tight end with Graves if Schroeder can’t run it.

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  322. wafan September 30, 2012 6:51 am

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  323. BigHiloFan2 September 30, 2012 6:52 am

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    keep the players playing hard the full 60 minutes.

    they doing that. yes they are.

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  325. Kevin September 30, 2012 7:40 am

    If a coach, ANY head coach for any sport “needs to read a blog” to fix issues with their team… My God.. we need a new coach.

    If this offends some people, then GOOD! 😆

  326. mo808 September 30, 2012 7:44 am

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  327. lava September 30, 2012 7:45 am

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  328. papajoe2 September 30, 2012 7:47 am

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    USTA 5-0

    LA TECH 4-0

    San Jose 4-1

    Utah State 4-1

    Texas State 2-2

    New Mexico 1-4

    Idaho 0-5

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    Did we really go to a stronger conference?

    I didn’t check out the schedules, but I beleive in 1 week the WAC had at least 2 victories over MWC.

  329. lava September 30, 2012 7:49 am

    We don’t need a coach who barely endures a 47-0 drubbing in game 4 to a team with mediocre athleticism and proclaims “I’m not changing anything.” Whatever you say Clueless.

    Maybe Chow should read the blog.

  330. Kevin September 30, 2012 7:56 am


    The MWC isnt even a shadow of what it was when we joined, but at least we have a conference.

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    i know it’s not the players.

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    Quite frankly, I did not expect us to beat USC, Nevada or BYU – and I have my doubts about SUSD. After all, Nevada and SUSD were suppose to be the top of the heap of the MWC. While one can always hope, we still have to be be realistic in our expectations.

    However, I keep thinking that “a foolish consistency is the hobgoblin … ”

    But again, I’m not the coach. I would like to see what Cayman or David could do at the helm but again, I am not the coach.

    It is always darkest before the dawn and other such cliches.

    We just got to hang in there.

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  338. kama krab September 30, 2012 8:11 am


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