The day after

As Elaine Benes would say: “I am speechless. I am without speech.”

That was a strange game involving a dozen combined turnovers, the two blocked kicks and that zig-zag ending.

The Warriors are 3-3, but this has been an uneven season. Whatever the reason — injuries, inexperience — more was expected of a team picked to win the WAC.

To be sure, the Warriors enter a more favorable part of the schedule. Five of the final seven-regular season games will be played at Aloha Stadium, including three of five WAC games. And, yes, the Warriors are still in the running for a share of the WAC title as long as San Jose State does not run the table.

All of which matters little. The immediate concern is protection on placekicks.



  1. Jomar808 October 15, 2011 1:35 am

    Is it the kicker or line that’s messing up? Something needs to change, listening to the game was so frustrating

  2. Jomar808 October 15, 2011 1:35 am

    Nice im first!

  3. Stephen Tsai October 15, 2011 2:07 am

    I assume it’s not the kicker because both kickers have been blocked.

    But I’m not certain, and the coaches said they need to review the videos to pinpoint the problem.

  4. Garret October 15, 2011 2:09 am

    UH has 3 kickers on the roster and has used 2 of them in games, with both having kicks blocked. Given that, I don’t blame the kicker…so the protection needs to be looked at.

  5. Garret October 15, 2011 2:15 am

    No matter how bad things may feel right now, I think that the Warriors will *not* have a problem making the Hawaii Bowl. One big thing to point out is that this is the weakest the WAC has been in memory…in fact, it we look at things on paper this is the weakest the WAC has ever been.

    No WAC team has a winning record

    No returning starting QBs except for UH (the other returning QB is injured)

    At least some of the computer rankings put the WAC as the weakest D-IA conference

    UH has 5 home games left and just 2 road games, and the Warriors play much better at home

  6. Stephen Tsai October 15, 2011 2:16 am

    I think the blocks are coming from the same gaps, too.

  7. Garret October 15, 2011 2:20 am

    Reading between the lines…

    The MWC said that they would *not* do the MWC/CUSA alliance until they knew whether or not the MWC would become an AQ conference after this season. The MWC Commissioner and the heads of at least 4 MWC schools said this publicly in TV interviews and this was all documented in newspapers.

    All of the sudden, the MWC changed its stance and decided to rush through the MWC/CUSA alliance. That seems to indicate that the MWC knows that it would not receive AQ status when it tried to make its appeal after this season.

    In fact, Wyoming’s AD told ESPN that the MWC would not have gotten AQ status after this season under the status quo. As recently as a week ago, the MWC was still saying that they would consider the alliance but they wanted to try for AQ status on their own first. In other words, something significant changed for the MWC…reading between the lines.

  8. Garret October 15, 2011 2:22 am

    I think the blocks are coming from the same gaps, too.


    As someone who is fortunate (unfortunate?) to be able to watch certain plays over and over, I didn’t want to point that out. The problems look like they should be corrected, Mack said that they would be corrected, but as of the 6th game of this season they have not been corrected.

  9. 99club October 15, 2011 2:26 am

    Good morning Tsaikos.

    ST, have to agree with you that protection on placekicks should be our first concern. The remaining games are going to be close with every point needed to win them. To be fair to this year’s team, protection on placekicks has been our weakness off and on for years. I remember thinking at the time of the Boise St. game in 2006 that “what a fluke play that Boise blocks a kick and returns for 2pts.” Obviously, last night wasn’t the first time it has happened but I hope it was the last!

    Here’s hoping that the Hawaii Bowl invites UH on 12 November on national TV after the Nevada game! I’m guessing the officials will be wearing parkas for the ceremony.

  10. Garret October 15, 2011 2:27 am

    There is a big reason why the MWC wanted to try for AQ status first before agreeing to the MWC/CUSA combo. If the MWC got AQ status by itself, the AQ money would be split with 10 schools, not 22. If all 22 schools are part of the combo like they say, even if the combo gets AQ status, the MWC will get less money than it has been getting by itself over the past 5 years.

    So, the MWC has agreed to a deal where the conference will get *less* money than in years when the MWC sends a team to a BCS bowl game.

  11. Stephen Tsai October 15, 2011 2:28 am


    I know how the system works.

    Still, how can a league (Big East) lose several members, then replace them with non-AQ schools, and still maintain an AQ rating?

    It’s like if a person joins the cool table, did he suddenly do something to be cool? How is it that Boise State or Houston are not considered to be BCS-quality schools when they’re in one league but gain higher standing by moving to another conference?

  12. Stephen Tsai October 15, 2011 2:32 am


    The problem with the kick protection is now it has become an open problem. PATs are supposed to be automatic. Now it’s affecting strategy. McMackin said he considered going for it on fourth-and-14. Every time there’s a kicking situation, there’s going to be unnecessary added attention.

  13. Garret October 15, 2011 2:32 am

    Other tidbits about the MWC/CUSA alliance:

    1. They were VERY quick to point out that UH has to pay travel subsidies. That is unfortunate, since they have make it clear that UH will have to pay subsidies even if the MWC loses teams and adds other teams (SJSU, USU, etc.). They gave UH *no* room to negotiate on that…the MWC/CUSA alliance showed how they would treat UH when they did that.

    2. The MWC says that they will honor their existing TV contract. That means that this alliance will not bring in a single penny more in regular season TV money and won’t help UH’s situation with PPV money.

    3. CUSA lost a lawsuit with ESPN and ESPN owns the TV rights to the CUSA championship game for *free*. After kicking CUSA’s okole a few months ago, ESPN will surely point out that they own CUSA’s title game and if the CUSA title game is ended in favor of a MWC/CUSA title game ESPN appears to have ownership of the TV rights to that game for FREE.

  14. Bb October 15, 2011 2:34 am

    I was at a sports bar in milwaukee wisc.

    After the cardinals took a huge lead we politely asked one of the bartenders to switch just one tv to espn (resulting in some WTF looks) but then eventually all the tvs tuned in to uh-sjsu. And we walking big tvs in a major sports bar/brewery.

    On the nations stage in the middle of a city going crazy over baseball and the packers we mananged some way some how on national tv in a random bar in the midwest.

    Worse yet, during the repeats of sportscenter, highlights, blocked extra points and more highlights of these warriors on the nation stage. Then random bar patrons, feeeling bad for us, telling us how they came to hawaii the last time the badgers came down. Im disgusted, sick, and fed up at how we should have won this game but speciL teams look more like special (fill in not PC Word)

    Off to see AG20 tmrw.

  15. Garret October 15, 2011 2:37 am


    I know how the system works.

    Still, how can a league (Big East) lose several members, then replace them with non-AQ schools, and still maintain an AQ rating?

    It’s like if a person joins the cool table, did he suddenly do something to be cool? How is it that Boise State or Houston are not considered to be BCS-quality schools when they’re in one league but gain higher standing by moving to another conference?


    The computers do NOT care if a school is AQ or not AQ. Look at the teams that the Big East is trying to add:

    Boise State is the #1 non-AQ school left. Their bring enough AQ points to make the Big East qualify for AQ status in 2 categories by themselves!

    Pre-BSU, Air Force was in the top 4 of the MWC throughout the MWC’s AQ evaluation periods. The other 3 (Utah, BYU, TCU) already left the MWC, so Air Force is the highest ranked old MWC school left.

    Central Florida was the CUSA champion last year, and they are the strongest school in CUSA East over the AQ evaluation period.

    SMU and Houston are the strongest teams in CUSA West over the AQ evaluation period

    In other words, the Big East isn’t just inviting random teams from the MWC and CUSA…they are inviting the top 5 teams from the alliance in the eyes of the computers and public.

  16. 99club October 15, 2011 2:40 am


    re: #12. It will be interesting to watch the strategy in upcoming games. It’ll tell us if Mack thinks they fixed the issues in practice or not.


    How much longer are the contracts with Mtn and ESPN, respectively for those two conferences?

  17. 99club October 15, 2011 2:42 am

    Off to get a second double expresso…

  18. Stephen Tsai October 15, 2011 2:46 am

    We all know that Boise State is good.

    I just think it’s funny that they’re considered legitimate when they’re grouped with the Big East instead of the MWC.

    I guess our parents are right: The company you keep makes a difference in how you’re perceived.

  19. Garret October 15, 2011 2:46 am

    The MWC and CUSA or the MWC and WAC could have *easily* formed an AQ conference years ago. If the top schools from each conference had combined, they would have met all AQ criteria and become the 7th AQ conference…the trouble is, the schools left behind wouldn’t have been happy about not being in an AQ conference!

    At any point in time over the past 4 years, a MWC/WAC or MWC/CUSA combo could have gotten AQ status. The problem the MWC was having was just in 1 AQ category, the average computer rank of its teams. Schools like UNLV, New Mexico, Colorado State, and Wyoming on some years dragged the computer ranking below every AQ conference.

    Look at what the Big East did when Temple didn’t do what they needed to do–they kicked them out. The MWC, WAC, and CUSA have let their bottom schools keep their budgets/facilities/coaching/etc. down and have prevented themselves from AQ status.

    The AQ criteria that the MWC has been missing has nothing to do with being “cool”. It is simply the bottom of the conference has killed the conference with the computers.


    New Mexico: 1-11

    UNLV: 2-11

    Colorado State: 3-9

    Wyoming: 3-9

    I point out the Sagarin ratings on this blog because they *matter* to AQ status. And the facts are that the MWC has done really, really badly on the field this season and the computers show it.

  20. Garret October 15, 2011 2:49 am


    Boise State by itself was going to get the MWC to qualify for an AQ appeal. How is that not showing how they are valued in the BCS system?

    The trouble for the MWC’s AQ status has nothing to do with Boise State. The AQ system requires that the conference have 1 highly ranked team and Boise State satisfied the AQ system just as much as any other D-IA team.

  21. Hillmok October 15, 2011 2:54 am

    Dont believe the hype “WAC CHAMPS” it’s more like WAC CHUMPS” believe dat!

  22. Garret October 15, 2011 2:55 am


    How much longer are the contracts with Mtn and ESPN, respectively for those two conferences?


    I think that the CUSA TV deals end in 2016.

    The MWC’s TV deal is supposed to end in 2016 also, but I’ve read reports in several places that says that CBS or Comcast has the right to extend the TV deal until 2020. I’m going to assume those reports are wrong because I don’t want to believe them.

    So, it appears to me that the MWC/CUSA alliance would be able to sell a joint TV package starting 2016.

    The trouble is, the Big East is going after the schools that bring most of the value for TV in the alliance right now

    Boise State gets huge ratings

    Air Force has a national following (though lower TV ratings than Navy)

    SMU and Houston are in huge TV markets

    UCF has the Orlando market which is huge (and an important market to Disney/ESPN)

    There is a reason why CBS and Fox have been featuring SMU, Houston, and Central Florida all year (and ESPN showed so many SMU games last year): they are the biggest TV ratings draws in CUSA.

  23. Garret October 15, 2011 3:08 am

    It’s like if a person joins the cool table, did he suddenly do something to be cool? How is it that Boise State or Houston are not considered to be BCS-quality schools when they’re in one league but gain higher standing by moving to another conference?


    Look at things a different way. The MWC’s TV contract *significantly* underpays them. Regular season money is far more important than AQ status.

    BYU made $1.3 mil from the MWC TV deal. They left the MWC and will be getting between $8 mil and $11 mil from TV now. Did they suddenly move to the “cool” table? Or did they finally get paid what they were worth?

    We know UH has been getting about $3 mil from TV, with almost all of that coming from UH’s Oceanic/K5 deals over the years. Next year UH could end up with $1 mil under the MWC’s TV deal. Did UH suddenly become “uncool”? Or will UH not be able to be paid what they are worth because the MWC signed a bad TV contract that they committed themselves to for at least 10 years?

    The fact is that conferences split TV money equally but each school brings a different value to TV. How much value do New Mexico, Wyoming, NMSU, SJSU, Idaho, Rice, UAB, or Tulane bring to the TV networks? Does having more schools matter to the TV networks if 75% of those schools bring almost no TV viewers? If the rumored schools leave, doesn’t UH bring more TV value than 90% of the schools that are in the alliance?

    The bottom teams in a conference don’t just prevent a conference from getting AQ status. The TV ratings for games with those teams are much lower. ESPN is going to pay they entire WAC conference something like $1 mil this year, but they will pay Boise State more than that to play a school that TV viewers will care about in a neutral site. BYU will get *$2.25 mil* to play a school in a neutral site as an indy, but they were just getting just $1.3 mil for the entire year as a MWC member.

    Neutral site games show the TV value of schools because TV networks pay for them separately from conference TV packages. The crazy money thrown at Boise State, BYU, TCU (over the past few years when they have still been in the MWC) show that non-AQ schools *do* matter to TV and *are* worth millions to a TV network…when they are playing schools that TV viewers care about.

  24. Garret October 15, 2011 3:19 am

    If UH doesn’t get an extra week for the Hawaii Exemption, then UH will play 13 games in 13 weeks, with week 14 being for the MWC/CUSA title game. No bye weeks

    If the MWC gets the NCAA to approve each of their conferences having a title game and *then* the alliance have a MWC vs. CUSA championship game, then that takes away 2 weeks…which means that the MWC will play 12 games in 12 weeks, have the MWC title game in week 13, then have the MWC/CUSA title game in week 14. No bye weeks and no Hawaii Exemption

    It looks like the MWC and CUSA are going to be pushed for the rights to have 2 weeks for conference title games. That kills UH’s Hawaii Exemption.

  25. Garret October 15, 2011 3:21 am

    I’m trying not to talk about the game so I better get off the blog now…

  26. wafan October 15, 2011 3:34 am

    Good morning!

  27. wafan October 15, 2011 3:34 am

    And, yes!

    The sun is rising.

  28. wafan October 15, 2011 3:43 am

    That 21st Century car commercial where the guy uses the Fred Flintstone method of parallel parking. Thought it was funny until yesterday as I was leaving campus.

    Student was trying to pull out of a kind of tight parking space. He needed a bit more room so he made some. Dang. He will need new headlights, tail lights and bumpers for two of the cars. His land yacht/tank looked like it came through relatively unscathed.

  29. wafan October 15, 2011 3:46 am

    Braissimo, Wahine!


  30. wafan October 15, 2011 3:46 am

    Okay, Warriors.

    Onward and upward!

  31. Mad Dog October 15, 2011 3:53 am


    How does this super conference line up look in terms of basketball revenue?

  32. Garret October 15, 2011 4:04 am


    How does this super conference line up look in terms of basketball revenue?

    Mad Dog,

    The MWC/CUSA alliance is only for football. Nothing changes for basketball revenue. UH won’t be a part of that anyway since UH basketball will be in the Big West.

  33. Mad Dog October 15, 2011 4:12 am

    Thanks Garret. I should have known that. I can’t get to sleep. The game still bothers me.

  34. Wes'side Warrior October 15, 2011 4:12 am

    Morning, everyone. Busy day today.

    I don’t know if it’s not necessarily on the kickers. It might be a timing thing. One in which we’re just moving too slow from snap, to spot, plant, and kick. I remember in the past, sometimes, if the snap is mishandled, we’d have to improvise since the kicker is already there to kick a ball that hasn’t been placed. Now, it seems, we wait for the snap, placement, and then start our motion to get to the ball to kick it. It just seems slow on tv.

  35. Wes'side Warrior October 15, 2011 4:15 am

    Concerning the MWC, the MWC-CUSA football merger, and tv contracts…

    I’ll ask again…

    With so much moving and shaking, does anyone know if the MWC has a clause in their tv contract to renegotiate due to moving teams, and now this merger? Or would it only be on the broadcaster’s side of the contract?

  36. Pomai October 15, 2011 4:29 am

    UH vs UNM

    42    –    14    Pomai

    59    –    28    d1shima

  37. wafan October 15, 2011 4:32 am

    Pomai . . .

    Thanks for the reminder!

    38 – 14 us, naturally.

  38. Mauian October 15, 2011 4:43 am

    Is it just me, or are we ignoring the fact that there are now two embarrassing losses (UNLV, SJSU) on UH’s 3-3 record in a conference that has no winning records among its teams?

    No doubt, the PAT was the turning point and how about the effort of the SJSU who got into the end zone with an apparent pulled hammy? Or was that the shock factor for the UH pursuers? Also looked like the kicker got pulled down from behind as he began pursuit.

    And getting to the Hawaii Bowl suddenly looks like a much tougher proposition to me. NM State certainly should be a win at home, especially with no Andrew Manley to contend with. But the next three all of a sudden look tough to me, starting with Idaho on the road (just because it is on the road), Utah State has played decent football this season even though its record doesn’t say so, and then back on the road at Nevada. After that Fresno State and and Tulane could be must wins before BYU shows up.

    Are their four wins left in that list? Not if the Warriors play like they did on Friday night, IMHO.

  39. jai October 15, 2011 4:47 am

    Listened to the game at work, then went home and watched.

    What the defense did was amazing. After being put on the field time and time again in the first half, they really held up…. we should have been way down. The offensive plays were there, looked like some missed reads, recievers not helping Moniz when obvious blitzes.

    First half reminded me of sugar bowl, UNLV game, last years hawaii bowl…. The difference was they fought back, but lack a special teams kicking game. We are not automatic on field goals or PAT’s anymore.

    They only thing that i feel bad about is Moniz is legit, but the rest of the offense is not up to his level yet. I think overall he’s better than Colt Brennan because he worked harder for this day in and day out. Yeah, Colt was a bit more accurate on deep balls, but had he really worked out the way BM does, he might still be playing football.

    So, special teams needs work and offense needs to be on the same page. Remember, this is basically a whole new offensive squad except for Moniz…. So, im still hopeful and planning what to cook next week saturday!!!

  40. d1shima October 15, 2011 4:49 am

    Great Morning All!

    wafan is correct..the sun did rise (at least here in the PNW)



  41. d1shima October 15, 2011 4:50 am

    We must protect this house Kick!

  42. Garret October 15, 2011 4:55 am

    With so much moving and shaking, does anyone know if the MWC has a clause in their tv contract to renegotiate due to moving teams, and now this merger? Or would it only be on the broadcaster’s side of the contract?

    The MWC wasn’t able to get any upgrades in its TV contract even when it had TCU, BYU, and Utah. The TV deal didn’t get upgraded when BSU joined. It appears that the broadcaster side has all the power in this contract, and they have decided to keep the contract unchanged because they are getting such a great deal. That shows you that they don’t care if they have a good relationship with the MWC…and that they aren’t worried about losing the MWC’s TV rights when the contract runs out.

    BYU was asking for the rights to replay their football games on BYUTV. CBS/Comcast rejected. CBS/Comcast could have kept BYU for $1.3 mil/year if they gave BYUTV some replay rights, but the rejected that so BYU took $8 mil to $11 mil per year from ESPN with replay rights to every game. CBS/Comcast would have had a GREAT deal with BYU but they didn’t care. If they wouldn’t give replay rights to BYU, how will they look at giving live games to UH PPV?

    Remember, the MWC said that even after this merger they would be abiding by their current TV contract. So, the changes that the MWC is making isn’t enough to get a penny more from TV it appears except for maybe the title game…though ESPN owns the rights to the CUSA title game for free so making title game money could be hard too.

  43. Garret October 15, 2011 5:01 am

    One big difference between facing Georgia and Tulsa instead of SJSU is that SJSU is the #107 ranked team in the Sagarin computers…not exactly at the level of some other opposition. I couldn’t believe the mistakes SJSU made, their fans would have been sick if they had lost the game.

  44. Mauian October 15, 2011 5:16 am

    Kinda like we do now?

  45. 808bowler October 15, 2011 5:20 am

    Got to give props to da defense. 6th game in and still kicking give us problems. tomey idk. And reliable moniz. Wat happen? Seems like without pollard he struggles. Im happy to see joey step up. Man we struggle on espn. O well. 7 games left. Lets hope for da best.

  46. Last Call October 15, 2011 5:41 am

    The cry to can Mack is getting louder. I’m not sure that’s the answer or even fair but once that train gets rolling you know how it goes.

  47. RedZone October 15, 2011 5:42 am

    Way to go Wahine Soccer. Would be cool if they ended up WAC Champs.

  48. Last Call October 15, 2011 5:46 am

    The ESPN ticker tape on the bottom of the screen said that Boise State and Air Force will turn down invites to the Big East also Army has already done so.This was according to Andy Katz at ESPN.

  49. duffer October 15, 2011 5:47 am

    Well the sun is starting to rise, so it’s not all that bad. We did lose a football game, but putting things in perspective, it’ll also rise when we win!

  50. 808bowler October 15, 2011 5:50 am

    Don’t think canning mack would be a gud idea. Not when we bout to join a new conference. Dat would be crazy. U don’t want to go in a new conference with a new head coach and new qb. thats crazy.

  51. mctruck October 15, 2011 6:04 am

    Might be the camera angle…but from one angle I said to myself that the ball was linedup too close to the line of scrimmage???, watching the replay of that fg-attempt under 2-minutes to play in the 4th…the ball was deflected off of the d-lineman’s hand; that being said….I wonder why not move the ball placement at least a foot further back of the line of scrimmage????….especially since UH cannot solve/fix the blocked kicks anyways???

    I really am pleased how our Defensive guys are ripping the ball from recievers/runnings back causing fumble which they recover…..just love dat!!! Also how their just crushing rb’s trying to penetrate the line-of-scrimmage. Rushing the qb for sacks, sometimes…most of the big plays were passes where the qb had too much time to find his recievers…especially the winning td.

    Joey, Joey, Joey!!!, imagine he’s got 3more years?!!!

  52. Kris October 15, 2011 6:11 am

    That was embarrassing 🙁

  53. 702WarriorFan October 15, 2011 6:14 am

    watching at the last fieldgoal attempt, thought I saw snap a little off and holder did not get a good placement because of the bad snap. Maybe someone could verify or saw the same. Lots of turnovers by bothsides. Was a very long walk back to our hotel, but had a good laugh with resident next to the stadium from Alabama who want UH to win.Great seats that Tom arranged, right on the 50 behind our team.

    Last observation, saw a widereceiver that appeared to keep by himself during the game away from his team mates except when he was finally sent in to play.

  54. rog October 15, 2011 6:33 am

    That was the worst display of coaching I have ever seen from not asking for a measurement on 4th and 1 at the end to the special teams which has had a block kick in almost every game this season. We need new blood in there with someone that can get the job done. I’m not sure if this team will even be bowl eligible this year.

  55. CoolEthan October 15, 2011 6:36 am

    Still no balanced attack offense.


  56. CoolEthan October 15, 2011 6:37 am

    This is all a coaching issue.

  57. funny October 15, 2011 6:49 am

    Poor OL play, poor tackling and poor special teams are all becoming an annual issue for the Warriors. Coaching is indeed to blame and the buck stops with Mac, period.

  58. shorebreak October 15, 2011 6:56 am

    On the road everybody getting enough sleep? Looks to me a lot of the players are drifting NO focus

    in the first half at all. Might be worth it to give the qb his own room next time.

  59. Hilo Moon October 15, 2011 6:57 am

    As great as Moniz is, I think a “break” from the play would help him later on into the game. I know it’s a gamble but it may pay off. Just one of my “uneducated” guesses.

    Have faith in the #2 qb to send him in for a series and see what happens. Coach Rolo himself led the nation in qb statistics in the amount of games he played, if I recall correctly.

    He went in because Timmy Chang got injured, not because Chang needed a “break”, however Rolo was a #2 and did well. So did Alexander for Brennan AND Moniz for Alexander. What does the Warrior qb depth chart look like?

  60. Old School Dave October 15, 2011 6:58 am

    I wonder if Bob Wagner could lend a hand and couple of times a week? He was also a pretty good special teams coach during his day.

  61. ESPN October 15, 2011 6:59 am

    embarrassing performance on a national level…..again.

  62. Buffoman October 15, 2011 7:00 am

    I’ll write about it until either the team does something about it so there’s a consensus that I’m watching a different game but the tackling is just not happening. There’s no wrap up technique, a lot of arm tackling and they must be teach our guys to simply run into people expecting them to fall over. There are times when we can make plays and folks simply don’t cooperate and fall down or they run through arm tackles.

    No comment on special teams.

  63. 808style October 15, 2011 7:01 am

    This being our 3rd SJSU vs. Hawaii game in SJC, was just as exciting. Our Warrior’s Defense really showed up last night. SJSU had a more fighting spirit this year than the past years (homecoming game + live on ESPN), their fans came out in record numbers. I thought in the 3rd and 4th quarter when we started mixing runnng plays into the offense, we really got going. Why didn’t our offiense go on that last 4th down rather than punt?

    Mahalo Hawaii fans for showing up, good unity in the 130-132 stadium section! Pressing forward….Go Bows!

  64. NYUH October 15, 2011 7:07 am

    I think they should have benched Moniz very early in the game. I don’t know why they treat QBs with such kid gloves, except that the offense is designed as an extensive of JJ/Rolo’s ego. But they have other QBs who can do the job. Moniz’s Heisman’s hopes vanished at UNLV who knows what he lost night. I’m not he is not the starter, but let him chill a bit when things turn ugly. He got his bearings for the second half but so much damage had already been done.

  65. bigislandkurt October 15, 2011 7:39 am

    Ok, for real kine.

    Is it THAT hard to correct an obvious blocking assignment problem on PAT’s and Field Goals? Especially when these blocks seem to be coming from the same place each and every time?

    Obviously so, says the warriors.

    Sheesh. No can this kine.


  66. warrior Dave October 15, 2011 7:41 am

    Six games into the season and the coaches haven’t pinpointed the reason for our kicking game? What an embarrassment. With a roster of 100 Players, please find 11 that can block and execute extra points and field goals.goals.

  67. Da Puncbowl Kid October 15, 2011 7:58 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    We can’t have that many turnovers and blocked kicks and still expect to win. Throw in a couple of breakdowns on offense and defense (SJSU’s last drive in particular) and this is what we get.

    It’s a shame, because you could see some of the players stepping up, for example, Richard Torres. Likely the littlest guy on the field, he single handedly took the game on his shoulders to try and force the victory for his team. His strip of the ball and interception were phenomenal. That film can be studied as great examples of heart and determination alone. There some great plays by many Warriors. We need more.

    What is most frustrating for me is that I truly believe our team is so much better than this. We have playmakers on this team.

    Our program can’t afford losses like this if we want to be taken seriously on the national stage. Period.

    Okay. That’s my rant.

    Regroup, refocus. Players need to practice hard and play hard. Coaches need to coach up. Fix the mistakes. I can’t believe its impossible to fix the kicking game errors, yet it appears that way. Start with that.

    The gauntlet is thrown down. Warriors must respond.


  68. TChahng October 15, 2011 8:01 am


    49 – 14 TChahng


  69. Da Puncbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:04 am

    There “were” some great plays… that should read above.

  70. tommui October 15, 2011 8:05 am

    The sun also rises … but why?

    Good day to all (I hope).

    WAHINE Volleyball and Soccer did us proud – some consolation there.

  71. Da Puncbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:05 am

    Pomai –

    UH 41 – 21


  72. Da Puncbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:07 am

    Good Morning, Tom and TChahng!

  73. 12thMan October 15, 2011 8:07 am

    Overall way under par game for the Warriors. Defense was on point with Hardy-T and Torres to show up for the game, and also Brown. However, our Offense is predictable as our opponents already know our basic strategy; BUT our RUN was there with Iosefa. With our D and running game, we still lost.

    Someone please tell me how Pollard missed that one catch in our last drive of the game which would have led us to run the ball more and run the clock out !? He obviously jumped WAY too soon and as he was coming down the ball was just arriving.

    From college to pros, it is about about talent and almost ignoring the basic skills because the basics should come automatic. Blocked field goals is what lost it for us.

  74. tommui October 15, 2011 8:08 am

    GARRET: What about that ESPN story (comment?) that BSU and AFA will turn down the invitation to the Big East? Is there any merit to that story?

    Assuming that they do turn down the invitation, will the PAC12 or Big 12 come to AFA and BSU with a golden invitation too?

  75. LizKauai (iPad) October 15, 2011 8:12 am

    “To be sure, the Warriors enter a more favorable part of the schedule. Five of the final seven-regular season games will be played at Aloha Stadium, including three of five WAC games. And, yes, the Warriors are still in the running for a share of the WAC title as long as San Jose State does not run the table.”

    Nothing is sure.

    The good new is, I no longer feel that my presence at an away game is a bachi!

    Chee Hoo!


    49-6. LizKauai

  76. LizKauai (iPad) October 15, 2011 8:15 am

    12thMan- can’t say for sure but i think Pollard went beyond the call with a hamstring problem that should have kept him out of the game.

    Go Warriors”

    Safe Home!

  77. Da Puncbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:16 am

    How about Iosefa?! You could see early in the season that he was new to the RB position, but his learning curve and skill set are charting straight up! Best of all, he’s an ideal back for the RnS: big. strong, quick, and loves contact, loves to punish tacklers. And he’s ONLY a freshman…

  78. Da Punchbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:19 am

    Oh my, I’ve been missing an “h” in my name.

  79. Da Punchbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:19 am


  80. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:19 am

    #53 702WarriorFan

    I saw it too, but the kick was low.

  81. Last Call October 15, 2011 8:20 am

    The Andy Katz announcement that Boise State and AF will turn down the Big East is based on what happened inside the MWC meeting.How good is his sources I don’t know. The Big East this morning issued a statement saying that no invites have been extended which was also confirmed by BSU.

    According to the Statesman the BSU president is to make a statement today prior to their game with Colorado State.

  82. kailuaboys October 15, 2011 8:20 am

    So why was Pollard playing with a hamstring injury? Do we not have any back up receivers? What happened to Darius Bright?

  83. tommui October 15, 2011 8:20 am

    DPK – “what’s in a name? …” Good morning to you. One of these days, we got to break your diet!

  84. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:21 am


    UH 41 UNM 23

  85. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:22 am

    Pollard at 40% apparently is better than Bright at 100%.

  86. hillmok October 15, 2011 8:23 am

    Mediocre players coached by mediocre coaches (senior citizens), and mediocre mentality of an entire state system. FCS at best. Call it like I see it. LMAO!

  87. LizKauai (iPad) October 15, 2011 8:24 am

    808style. It WAS AN EXCITING GAME! Very very exciting and actually fun to watch. Kymry brought ti leaves from Gary’s memorial flower arrangements and we stripped them and shared them with others in the restaurant.

    I have to attribute the ending to Gary who no doubt wanted to give us one last WTF Warrior moment.

    Ok, Gary. Can we just win the rest of the season now???


    God Bless!

    GO WARRIORS! :mrgreen:

  88. Old School Dave October 15, 2011 8:29 am

    May have to put some of the d-line horses on the field goal and PAT squad – Vaughn, Kaniela, Haku, Georden in order to shore up things.

    Holding open tryouts for kickers may not be such a crazy idea either. I wonder if there are any worthy legs on the woman’s soccer team? Remember the movie Necessary Roughness?

  89. kailuaboys October 15, 2011 8:29 am

    Exciting game? More frustrating. Defense played great, except final drive. Offense was inconsistent, at best. Special teams …nuff said.

  90. Da Punchbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:30 am

    Sounds good Tom.

  91. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:30 am

    #59 HiloMoon


    Tyler Hansen was Colt’s backup. If I remember correctly, Alexander was a JUCO transfer in 2008, the year after Colt graduated.

    That sounded nit-picky. Don’t mean it that way. Just giving some credit to Tyler Hansen.

  92. Da Punchbowl Kid October 15, 2011 8:39 am

    #88 OSD –

    Its certainly worth a try.

  93. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:42 am

    You know how when something isn’t safe to use or an area isn’t safe to be in, people should make the item or area inaccessible.

    IMO, kicking game should be the same way. MattO made a good point last nite on the prev blog that, right now, going for 2 on PAT attempts has more upside than kicking for 1.

    As for field goals, I like the idea of moving one more yard back. Kickers should also practice getting more lift on the ball.

    Let’s be creative and fake a FG or two. Every team we play right now is pinning their ears back and going for the block. The same way you set up the run with the pass and visa versa, you get the other team to not try to block by faking a couple.

  94. showthemsupport October 15, 2011 8:43 am

    Its glad to see people finally admitting the REAL Problem on kicks… the LINE! Ive been saying it from the start. The exact thing happened on BOTH blocks last night. Enough with the calling out for open tryouts for kickers … we have good kickers. Put your self in their shoes…. no matter how much they want to… i am sure they are loosing respect and or trust in their line. They are the ones who look like fools on National TV, but they have done all they can. That line needs to be tightened up… and NOW. its absolutely absurd. Get off times are fine… height seems to be fine as well. There is NO EXCUSE to have a guy run in right through the MIDDLE of the LINE, with BOTH PAWS up in the air…. NO EXCUSE.

  95. cocobean October 15, 2011 8:52 am

    Tyler Graunke.

  96. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:53 am

    To SJSU player #43’s credit, after slowing down the film, I saw that his “get-off” was amazing. I was trying to get a frame-by-frame look at the PAT block. From the very first frame when the ball was snapped, he started moving with our long-snapper before any other player did. I knew immediately that it was him who blocked it.

    Also looked slightly like Chun’s timing is a bit slow. He’s waiting for the ball to be placed before he really moves forward in earnest.

  97. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:55 am

    Correction of my correction noted. Tyler Graunke. Hansen is Colorado’s QB. Thanks, cocobean.

  98. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:58 am

    It also sucks that we don’t get another crack at the SJSU Fartans again (until a non-conf game scheduled).

  99. Shannon October 15, 2011 8:59 am

    Still feeling the effects of last nights mind boggling loss… BOTH teams played sloppy and BOTH teams made big plays… SJSU just had ONE MORE big play in their bag than us… Turnovers for SJSU, not surprising… Turnovers for us, cost us the game… BOTH blocked kicks hurt but the blocked PAT for 2 pts killed us… That changed the pt differential from being up 8 to being up 5, with possession going to SJ… Not going for the 4th & short proved costly too but would chancing another blocked kick been worth it? Sheeez… I wonder if the MWC is shaking their heads watching us lose to SJSU & UNLV?

  100. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:59 am


  101. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 8:59 am

    Ooh. That was 100. Nice.

  102. Shannon October 15, 2011 9:03 am

    Hate to add that I was there in person and had to fend off a bunch of friends (SJSU alums and Sj residents) on my Facebook who couldn’t resist talking trash on my page… Of all games to lose … Ayayay

  103. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 9:04 am


    Warriors kicked it away with only 1:35 on the clock. UH would have only needed to take a knee if they had gone for it on 4th and short. No kicks. No turnovers. Just victory formation and an escape.

  104. 12thMan October 15, 2011 9:05 am

    longdistance808– I am sure there are a couple girls on the girls soccer squad who could compete against the boys kickers. At this level, 35, 40 yarders should be clutch, and blocked field goals are primarily the line’s responsibility. Also, fake FG although at higher risk is a good idea esp at 5 yards or less to first down or within 5 of a TD.

    Special teams unit, primarily in the cases of Harding’s fumble and Edward’s “wth-am-I-doing-not-picking-up-this-ball”.. CARELESS mistakes and not securing the ball.

    My personal opinion why BRIGHT is in is for distraction as a big guy. Glad he and Pollard are leaving next year because we could have a better receivers unit.

  105. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 9:06 am

    Didn’t help my frustrations that there is virtually no cell reception in or around Fartan Stadium.

  106. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 9:08 am

    12th Man,

    I said the same thing about bringing in a women’s soccer player in prev blog (see post #1025 or thereabouts).

  107. 12thMan October 15, 2011 9:09 am

    This type of performance recognized at the national TV level is poor and degrades UH’s initiation into a probable merger between their new conference MWC and C-usa. Should be grateful TCU is leaving.

  108. 12thMan October 15, 2011 9:11 am

    longdistance808– Great sugguestion.. some of them just may have more masculinity than Chun. In all sincerity, just jokes of course.

  109. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 9:12 am

    Alright. I think I got it out of my system and can face the world. Peace for now I think. Lurk at you folks later.

  110. Darren October 15, 2011 9:13 am

    We should’ve taken a knee on the extra point.

  111. markazulu October 15, 2011 9:14 am

    Still Stinging but I’m still Bleeding Green while some people are still on Life Support as fans. I think we played outstanding Defense wise considering how much they were on the field an how little points they gave up. The Defense showed up ready for a fight an our offense showed up a little to late! An well as for special teams I think their still in spring training! I think everyone needs to realize that their is a lot of young talent on both sides I think though that is a poor excuse everyone needs to take blame for this loss QB int arent only on the QB’s fault it could be what the defense did, the receivers running the wrong route, obvious play calling; From Coaches to players they should all take blame for this loss but they should not worry about quit in this team because I saw NONE at all even when San Jose scored the “Game Sealer” I saw Mo run up to the defense an say “Dont worry I got this” An though the game outcome didnt change it was a GREAT thing to see!!

    Play Hard boys an play to win! Coaches need to revamp though or it could cost someone their job! An I hope for the sake of the university they run the table.

    Go warriors!!

  112. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 15, 2011 9:15 am

    Wasn’t Moniz a soccer player?

    Hmm…just saying

  113. Bleed Green and White October 15, 2011 9:15 am

    Here’s my two cents worth:

    I cannot believe there is criticism of UH quarterback Bryant Moniz. My God, the kid is running for his life on every play. That, my friends, is problem number one.

    Offensive line play has been terrible in 2011, absolutely horrible. I’ve read often, some people say no balance on offense. Um, no blocking, that’s well. Moniz has been far too much. I love him for being so darn tough.

    No real playmakers at receiver other than Pollard. Clapp, love his effort, but strictly and catch and sit guy. Ostrowski, glad to have him back. Bright, um, M.I.A.

    It was awesome the defense got 6 turnovers during the game, 5 of which came in the second half…however, I wouldn’t say they were stopping San Jose State at all. I mean the Spartans still outgained Hawaii.

    Richard Torres, where would this team be without him?

    Special Ed, I mean not so Special Teams….wow, there’s a saying we all learned growing up here in Hawaii, “Make A”.

    Dick Tomey, that experiment is not working. My two cents, bad hire.

    Contract negotiations? Oh yeah, that’s happening in men’s basketball.

  114. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 15, 2011 9:19 am

    I’d also like to see an end or near end to the long bombs. sure you want to keep your defense honest and go long sometimes, but that is only when there is a real threat that that ball connects. if not, its just a wasted opportunity to get positive yardage.

    we can win it and do well with the short rhythmic passes and mixing up iosefa running the ball. imo off course.

  115. Darren October 15, 2011 9:25 am

    Most teams lay an egg every now and then, but it can’t be happening on a regular basis.

    Is our team: 1) over-achieving, 2) playing to maximum potential, or 3) under-performing. Coaches are getting paid to hit either 1 or 2.

    If we’re at 3, I don’t think it’s right for coaches to lay it on the players and say it’s “between the ears”…not cool.

  116. Shannon October 15, 2011 9:31 am

    @longdistance808: Yah that’s what I was hoping for… Run Iosefa right down SJSU’s throat, pick up the first and take a knee… But no. Blocked kick AGAIN! Unreal… After all that effort, shutting their offense down all 2nd half, we let them dink and dunk down the field (Taking a page out of UH’s book) and failed to wrap up and tackle… Making their WR look like Davone Bess… After watching last years Fresno game live, was some shame walking out of that stadium with all those blue & gold clad clowns talking smack…

  117. 808bowler October 15, 2011 9:37 am

    Complain blah blah……sooooo much things went wrong in that game. But da obe constant thing in our losses is da kicking game…….blah blah…..o well…..lets hope the rest if the season turns out gud. As for wac champs dont see dat happening esp utah st looking really gud.

  118. RedZone October 15, 2011 9:40 am

    Tarra Gabriel who is on the soccer team kicked for Kamehameha.

    Blocking is a huge problem for the team. You see it on offense and also on kick returns. They need to find an oline leader like King Samson.

  119. TChahng October 15, 2011 9:41 am

    Good morning Uncle DPK!

    Good morning Aunty LizK!

    Go Na Ali’i!!! Beat the Surfriders!

  120. RedZone October 15, 2011 9:42 am

    The only criticism of Mo that I have is he no can tackle.

  121. Darren October 15, 2011 9:44 am

    Props to Richard Torres…played his guts out and did everything possible to will his team to a win.

    Joey Iosefa is looking better and better every week. Some guys just give you a good level of comfort and he’s one of those guys.

    As bad as it got, props to the entire team for not giving up…there is no questioning the effort from the players.

    Execution…needs to be fixed/corrected/improved asap.

  122. RedZone October 15, 2011 9:51 am

    Meatonga was a monster in the middle.

  123. Jack Flash October 15, 2011 9:51 am

    Here’s my take- both teams stunk it up on Nat’l TV last night. Poor execution and coaching all around. Special teams is the worst i’ve ever seen. Fix it coaches!


  124. Darren October 15, 2011 9:53 am

    How is it that mistakes on the OL do not get called out? When Mo throws an atrocious pick, he has to man up for it. When Tank gets spun around and beat, he has to man up for it. Don’t know if I’d want to question 6’-5”, 310 lb guys, but we should be able to find out if it’s the scheme or the player.

  125. krump1_AKA_protector October 15, 2011 9:55 am

    I totally agree with Hilo Moon and NYUH’s perspective of having Moniz “chill” or at least be benched temporarily to at least see if Shane or David could jump0start the team. Sometimes a change at the helm will throw off the opponent’s D because they have to make more adjustments on the run. It’s really irritating to hear some of the rhetori like:”You can’t bench Moniz because he’s the best player on the team and it’s everybody else that’s screwing up” or “You’ll shake his confidence if you bench him”. What drivel. Bryant’s a man, a Senior and he’d more mature than the majority of NCAA football players. You really think he has a fragile ego that can’t take a benching on occasion? He can handle. And you can always have him go back in at any time, but he sometimes needs that chill time to settle down and actively observe what the D is doing from a different perspective. If anything, NOT sitting him down when he is NOT razor sharp and allowing him to play when he’s throwing into double and triple coverage, lobbing in throws rather than aiming it at specific targets (just not playing up to his usual high level) actually is a NON vote (or lack) of confidence in Shane and David. I have a lot of confidence in those two to move the team. I’ve always felt that giving Shane more opportunities would allow him to show his accuracy and calm and efficient playing style.

    It makes the team weaker when you’re only going to bring backups for mop-up duty or to take a knee when they do come in. People will throw last season in our faces for refutation of this. Moniz had 5,000 yards (9th best all-time, I believe). Was he playing at maximum efficiency for the whole season? No. In the first half of last season he played at an incredibly high level; thought he was the best in the nation at the time. The second half was not the same, whether it was nagging injuries, complacency or whatever. Someone speculated he was better than Colt. Colt and Rolo never had games as bad as some of Moniz’s worst games. Colt was infinitely more accurate than Bryant and don’t forget he had the single most prolific and efficient season for a QB in NCAA history (not Tebow, not the OTHER Colt, not Andrew Luck or Cam Newton, etc.). Will stop the rant here.

  126. Ralph October 15, 2011 9:58 am

    SMU on Fox prime time, up 10-0 on UCF. Their kicker is a walk on who came aboard late, he was already enrolled at Blinn when he read SMU kickers were new and having difficulties since Spring Ball.

  127. Darren October 15, 2011 9:59 am

    Unless you’ve broken down the film, you don’t know whether the disconnects were caused by Mo or the receiver…it takes both guys on the same page to make the play work. A receiver in the wrong spot can make Mo look really bad.

  128. Oahu Resident October 15, 2011 10:01 am

    On the blocked field goal returned for two points, an SJS player clearly kicked the ball, which is a penalty and the play should have been blown dead. UH coaches should have challenged the play. Without the kick, the player would not have been able to pick up the ball in the clear with no one between him and the goal.

  129. RedZone October 15, 2011 10:01 am

    This team has fumblitis. Moniz fumbled in every game except for UC Davis.

  130. markazulu October 15, 2011 10:03 am

    An Shout out to Royce pollard he played hard an he limped for the rest of the game but he sucked it up an showed warrior mentality! We need more players like that! Whats up with Bright? I know it’ll take time but it looks like Allen Sampson will be our starting left wideout from now on!

  131. Dan-O October 15, 2011 10:04 am

    Plenty of “blame” to go around, but the play that still burns me….that no one has mentioned, is the illegal substitution penalty on us RIGHT after the last fumble recovery. That penalty put us in a first and 15 situation, right off the bat.

    If the offense wasn’t ready, then call a TIME-OUT! We had 3….one first down, game over. That would have given Rolo and Mo time to set a plan for three plays to get ONE first down.

    Physical errors (missed tackles, blocks, dropped passes) are understandable…..players at all levels make them. But this one was mental…and on the coaches. You got some 10 coaches on the sideline, in the booth, on headsets….someone should have yelled at Mac to call a timeout.

  132. ainokenbileev October 15, 2011 10:07 am

    hawaii “won 5-straight on San Jose State’s home-turf dating back to 1999” and lost by 1 point last night for one reason: T O M E Y.

  133. Dan-O October 15, 2011 10:13 am

    Good point Aino…..which ever sideline Tomey was on….LOST!

  134. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 10:24 am

    Defense gets a “pass” this week.. the rest of the team, I have little or nothing good to say about. Iosefa made a few good runs. There was no real connection between QB and Receivers. Should have tried a different QB before the end of the second Qtr. Oline didn’t impress me at all. Sure they held on a few, but they didn’t string them together enough to move the ball with any real consistency. FG and PAT teams… yikes! 6 games in and still the weakness of the left side is blaring. AND we had no one that could catch up with a guy who had a charley horse at the start of his run on that blocked kick? I think the closest guy was the kicker and he got pushed from behind before he could attempt a tackle.

    We are just not as good as we thought we would be. We have a long season ahead of us.

  135. Ralph October 15, 2011 10:31 am

    Wyoming up on UNLV 38-14, looks as though UNLV will be 1-5. Washington up on Colorado 35-10 in the second quarter.

    Washington and BYU are the only teams with winning records to date on our schedule.

  136. rainbowfan October 15, 2011 10:33 am

    In today’s staradvertiser story page 12 bottom, did you mean Shane Austin is the holder, rather than Austin Hansen ?

    If the other teams can block our PAT’s, FG’s so often, how come UH can’t block some too. The coaches should look at how the opposing lines block players for the PAT’s, in that UH can’t get in to block any kicks.

    I like how Hardy-Tuilau didn’t get faked out and made that interception at the UH 13 on third and one in the third quarter and Richard Torres and Paredes causing turnovers.

    Should they have blitzed on San Jose’s last touchdown pass play ?

  137. Darren October 15, 2011 10:36 am

    We did blitz on the last touchdown pass.

  138. krump1_AKA_protector October 15, 2011 10:38 am


    Can you please put me down for: Warriors 52 Aggies 17 Mahalo.

  139. rainbowfan October 15, 2011 10:40 am


    Yes, my question is whether they should have or not blitzed. If they didn’t, some would have said they should have, etc.

  140. leave no stone October 15, 2011 10:41 am

    A few comments/observations/suggestions:

    – Rolo’s playcalling got way too conservative with more than 3 mins to play. 2 running plays btb on 1st & 2nd down? sjsu still had 2 timeouts! On our previous possession, we ran the quick throw to the slot to the right, then over to the left on btb plays for a 1st down. So far as I have seen, THAT play almost always gets us 5 yards per play. Nevermind that we were having success with the run at times… if we wanted to run it on 1st down (which resulted in a 2-yd loss) why didn’t we throw it on 2nd (or at least try to)?

    – If it hasn’t been said/started already, I suggest that we NEVER run another WR screen, at least for the rest of this season. Whether its the personnel or the way its drawn up, the WR screen has not been a successful play for us. Whether it be a loss of yards, a minimal gain, or a pick like yesterday, this current squad CANNOT execute this play to save their life.

    – Moreover, while I absolutely love the fact that we have installed more play-action this year, Moniz has GOT to do a better job of SELLING it. As it is now, he’s casually sticking it out there and leisurely pulling it back, as if to say, “I’m just going thru the motions since the play calls for me to fake it.” NOTE: I am not so much focusing my criticism on Moniz’s execution as much as Rolo’s lack of COACHing him to SELL it. This criticism includes the running back’s SELLING of actually ‘taking’ the ball. Trust me, the defense isn’t being fooled.

    – Quick-snap/No-Huddle. It’s a deadly proposition for the opposing team to try to defend us if we were to use this more. Why is it that we often (not always) come out with these ‘draw it up the week before’ plays on our first possession that usually produce minimal results (if any), and then we don’t see another wrinkle the REST of the game? The 5-wide… love it! But where does it go after the first possession? Corey Paclebar… great! I don’t mind the offense having special plays for special personnel (like Boise), but not only did the CP play appear poorly designed (it took way too long to develop), we hardly see any wrinkles beyond the first possession of each game! On Moniz’s first TD to Pollard? that was BRILLIANT! Fake the run, move Moniz out of the pocket (which he’s good at since he’s frequently scrambling anyway) and throw it to our MOST experienced receiver! I mean c’mon is it that difficult to make note of what works and why, and what doesn’t and why? Ever notice how the quick-snap frequently results in a 5+ yard gain for our opponents? Think this is coincidence? We need to find a way to pick our spots, to run a quick double-play to catch the defense off-guard. Here’s my example: It’s 2nd and short and we plan to run the ball. This is ok, but how about we plan ahead in that we’re going to make the 1st down and call the next play in the huddle? Be it another quick run (depending on how the D-line sets up) or play-action rollout pass, or a quick pass to the slot for an easy 5-10 yards? Crossing patterns would work great in this situation if the defense is playing ‘man’, just run a slot quickly in motion to figure this out!!!

    I have more, but I’m gonna save it for later…

    Please do not misunderstand my rant… I love this team like there’s no tomorrow, and want nothing but the best for them (and for us).

  141. Darren October 15, 2011 10:43 am

    139. Ahhh…I see now. Ok…based on what happended, I don’t think they should have blitzed on that last play.

  142. Old Diver October 15, 2011 10:43 am

    The turning point of the game were all the turnovers by Moniz in the first half. I believe Whitney is correct that Moniz is part of the problem of our sputtering offense. Just saying the o-line currently is taking all the blame, but if you review the interceptions Moniz for the most part had time to throw the ball. I’m not calling for a replacement QB, I’m just saying everyone on offense needs to improve their game.

  143. sports_for_fun October 15, 2011 10:49 am

    Navy got their potential game winning field goal versus Rutgers blocked. Rutgers running out the clock now…

  144. sports_for_fun October 15, 2011 10:52 am

    Navy returns the favor and blocks Rutgers field goal! :24 left on the clock for Navy to drive for the game winning field goal.

  145. LOL™ October 15, 2011 10:52 am

    hawaii “won 5-straight on San Jose State’s home-turf dating back to 1999” and lost by 1 point last night for one reason: T O M E Y.

    Eh, it was Sparty’s homecoming and Tomey just wanted to give a gift to his former team… you know, as a reward for all his previously unpublicized efforts in fixing their APR problems. If it weren’t for that, Sparta might be looking at FCS or possibly shutting down the football program. McMackin used to also coach at SJSU as an assistant. So it was a very nice gesture by these two fellows on homecoming night taking one for the team to make the SJSU faithful happy for one evening.

  146. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 15, 2011 10:53 am

    SMU looks pretty good. Should be a nice win over UCF if they can hold on to it.

  147. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 10:54 am

    Offensively, at times, it really seemed like individual players were trying to impress the scouts and forgot that they play as a team and blew their assignments, including the QB. Moniz was throwing too hard in the beginning. On a couple plays I think I saw Pollard go up for the ball well before the ball got to him so that he caught it on the way down or back down, got hit immediately and lost control … incomplete.

    It was a sloppy, messy, unruly attempt at organized football. The worst game of the season, yet. At UNLV, the team was sluggish and slow. At SJSU, they were in disarray.

  148. sports_for_fun October 15, 2011 10:54 am

    Navy couldn’t pull it out. Rutgers wins, 21-20! Special teams did the Midshipmen in!

  149. SteveM October 15, 2011 10:56 am

    Good morning everyone!

    I don’t usually join in on the post-mortem discussions, but there are a couple points repeatedly made here that I was thinking during the game…

    1. Yes, Moniz’s Heisman hopes ended in Las Vegas but if he is not doing well, he should be pulled for a series or two. Only the coaches can tell if he is not doing well or it is the receivers or defense causing problems. This gives game experience to next year’s QB and hopefully gives the opposing defense another set of problems. I think Moniz can return anytime in the game.

    2. I was grinding my teeth that Special Teams kicking contributed so heavily to the loss. I am pleased that Dick Tomey is the ST coach. But I wonder if an old saying applies here… “the more you over-think the plumbing, the easier it is to stop it up”. Back to basics?

    End of autopsy.

    Today is the first day of the rest of the season.


  150. rainbowfan October 15, 2011 10:57 am

    Moniz almost saved the game with his 74 yard run to the San Jose 2 in the 3rd quarter.

    It was the special teams kicking team giving up the 2 point defensive conversion that killed Hawaii in the 4th quarter and also the blocked FG.

  151. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 11:03 am


    too little too late.. and both play calling and play making on the second to last possession was pitiful. Only Iosefa’s effort was applaud-able but it was, unfortunately, inches short. Then that FG attempt! YIKES!… I would have had the Offense either go for it or punt it away and put SJSU as far back as possible… the score was too close to chance a muffed kick and giving them get such good field position with almost 2 minutes left to play. Our history this season to that point should have been an indication that a FG attempt was NOT a good idea at that distance. Auwe!

  152. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 11:05 am

    Okay.. I’m done ranting.. I’m gonna go crawl into my corner… cut some wood… pound some nails… break some glass… watch Kung-fu movies and forget football for a few days.

  153. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 11:07 am

    Oh yeah.. I forgot… gonna go scream at the neighbors for a few days, too.. grrrrrrrr!

  154. Darren October 15, 2011 11:15 am

    On to less depressing things (not by much)…

    Boise State prez sure didn’t sound like he’s committing to the MW…at least as of now:

    Boise State President Bob Kustra said the Broncos’ football program has options as conference realignment plays out across the country.

    “The one thing I can tell you about all these conversations I’ve had this week is that Boise State is the team of the hour, the team of the day, the team of the week. We are the ones that people are really interested in when it comes to how these conference are going to align and that’s really exciting,” Kustra said during a pregame interview with KBOI 670 AM.

    He said he believes the Mountain West-Conference USA football alliance “is a good solution if, in fact, at the end of this year or whatever the timetable is, we find ourselves continuing to be in the Mountain West. …

  155. 808bowler October 15, 2011 11:16 am

    Moniz seams to struggle on espn. Look at da past.

  156. 808bowler October 15, 2011 11:19 am

    Right now looks like smu would smash hawaii. But u not giving up on this team yet…..have faith as u bleef matter wat.

  157. 808bowler October 15, 2011 11:20 am

    Dam typos. Hate this pad.

  158. cocobean October 15, 2011 11:35 am

    I can see where people are coming from when they say Moniz should have sat out a bit in the first half. There’s no arguing he wasn’t as sharp as he could have been. I think a lot of these thoughts were brought on by frustation more than anything else. I was frustrated waiting for the O to get untracked but I also believed that at some point they would.

    Benching Mo for a while probably never crossed the coaches minds. It’s written in the coaching bible regarding QBs – that you dance with who brung ya, that when you have two QBs you don’t have ONE. But more seriously coaches will always avoid having a QB controversy. If you pull an established QB for non performance during a game you’re setting a precedent. The fans will hold you to it in the future.

    Can you imagine all the scenarios that could have played out if Rolo did pull Mo. I’m not talking just about the outcome of this particular game but how that would affect the rest of the season and possibly seasons to come. I’d hate to see fans calling for the hook every time a starting QB hits a rough patch but you know how it is when you set a precedent.

  159. sports_for_fun October 15, 2011 11:41 am

    The way SMU is playing this year, I don’t think they’ll be headed to Honolulu. I think there will be another bowl game for them that is more lucrative if they keep winning…

  160. Last Call October 15, 2011 12:07 pm

    Everyone is laughing at us.

  161. Last Call October 15, 2011 12:08 pm

    Even New Mexico State fans see us as a possible W

  162. kev-1 October 15, 2011 12:31 pm

    ST – San Jose was supposed to be the beginning game of our “more manageable part of the season.”

    Good football teams win games that they are supposed to win. They get upset once in a great while. We had our upset already at UNLV. What the heck was that yesterday? This team is not as good as they were supposed to be, nor are they as good as I thought they were. Coaching?

  163. kev-1 October 15, 2011 12:32 pm

    Richard Torres is a freaking stud!!!!! Defense stepped up yesterday big time. That last mistake at the end of the game for the loss was a coaching mistake. Not on the players.

  164. Bryson October 15, 2011 12:43 pm

    Last night was a bad loss…but let’s not forget that Hawaii always has a tough time in Spartan Stadium even in 07″ Colt and the boys needed to take it to overtime for the W….There is not 1 individual or 1 unit to blame everyone has a hand in W’s and L’s let’s not forget that this is a team sport and you either win as a team or lose as a team…

  165. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 12:45 pm

    Pomai, 42-20 Hawaii.

    Who did win the contest anyway? I don’t anybody did as almost everyone picked Hawaii and the one that I know about that picked SJS was over.

  166. Kapahulu October 15, 2011 12:47 pm

    DVR’D the game last night.

    Stayed up till 1am watching it.

    Woke up early this morning to go to work.

    First thing on my mind before even getting out of bed…….I still can’t believe we lost this game.

    How come the UH coaches didn’t ask for a measurement before the 4th and 1 play near the end?

    Where was our defense on the last San Jose scoring play?

    Someone suggested using our defensive lineman to block on PAT’S and FG’s…sounds good to me.

  167. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 12:47 pm

    Torres played a good game with the turnovers, but on the last SJS touchdown, he was the man that I thought was going to tackle the receiver but, just got faked out, not even touching him.

  168. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 12:50 pm

    On tv they said 4th down and 7 inches. Wasn’t it a former Hawaii coach who said if you cannot get 1 yard, you shouldn’t be in this business, or something similar?. Needed only 7 inches.

  169. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 12:52 pm

    Wasspu Kapahulu? See you 2morrow?

  170. Kapahulu October 15, 2011 12:52 pm


    Yeah, I noticed that too. Our D seemed confused. It was like we were trying not to lose instead of trying to win.

  171. Kapahulu October 15, 2011 12:55 pm


    We’ll be there. See you then. We can continue our analysis!

  172. Observer October 15, 2011 12:57 pm

    Only one reason why we look so pathetic……COACHING!!!!! It starts with the top, Mac has got to go!!! No excuse for the type of mistakes that happenned in this game!!!

  173. bamabeta October 15, 2011 1:03 pm

    Torres is a beast. what a game. i am really impressed with stuz2. i think he is getting better every game. we never doubted his hands, speed and knowledge, but now he is playing with physicality. impressive game.

    Iosefa had a great game. with the play on 4th and 1, why not go under center and hand to him? option? mack needs to step it up.

    our d-line is very iimpressive.

    we are not going to win many games turning the ball over, and having terrible special teams. period!

    IS POLLARD HURT/OUT for next game. anyone know?

  174. Observer October 15, 2011 1:03 pm

    Heisman hahahahahahhahaha lol!!! More like are you Heis-man, for even considering his name in the same sentence with that word?….. What a joke, a total joke lol!!!!

  175. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:06 pm

    MIH is sitting in his corner stewing, knocking his head against the wall, trying to line up the dots, crossing the t’s,and saying to himself, if he had gotten his contract extension we would have won because Mac would have been focused on the game-no drama, no distractions, come on someone, get it done.

    I don’t expect FedEx knocking on anyone’s door any time soon. UNLV lost badly to Wyoming. Wyoming, laughable. Tulane, a future opponent lost 44-7 to UTEP and are now 2-5 for the year. Colorado is 1-6, losing by 28 to the Huskies.

  176. ai-eee-soos October 15, 2011 1:07 pm

    Oklahoma State : 38 – texas: 26

  177. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:08 pm

    Kapahulu, you weren’t the only one wondering if it was only a bad dream, no way we lose to San Jose State, but it’s true, we lost again on ESPN.

  178. LK October 15, 2011 1:11 pm

    Happy Birthday, A-Sports

    Happy Birthday, Mrs. LK

  179. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:13 pm

    wow, scott smith is back at Texas Tech. He was on suspension, he did not quit the team last year.

  180. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:16 pm

    K State 7-0 in the first qtr on an interception and TD. second year post Leach, TT doesn’t have the air power of the past, K State should prevail playing smash mouth football. TT on five running plays, 8 yards total.

  181. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:18 pm

    tied. dang. and only five minutes into the game. but the Purple pride will prevail.

  182. WarriorNY October 15, 2011 1:27 pm


    You cannot blame the coaches for Moniz’s 4 turnovers… That’s on Mo…

    Defense against the run this year is fantastic…

  183. Ralph October 15, 2011 1:47 pm

    K State on a 99 yd return, but the kicker missed the PAT. TT up 14-13. Not a good weekend for kickers.

  184. Elise Obarr October 15, 2011 1:48 pm

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  185. Shannon October 15, 2011 1:55 pm

    Another sad thing to consider is that ESPN probably decided to air this lowly WAC meeting between UH & SJSU to promote UH… Being picked to “win the WAC” & a possible “Heisman hopeful” in Moniz… And probably felt confident after the Colorado showing… Starting to become a trend that we don’t show up in prime time… Maybe we just gotta accept that we’re a mid-major program… That 07-08 season seems light years away now…

  186. visitor October 15, 2011 1:57 pm

    I don’t see it as the kicker, kick returner, qb problem. It’s a system-wide situation. Offense, defense, special teams, and coaching…clock management, play calling (offense and defense). Just didn’t seemed under control and in sync. We played poorly and were lucky in the first half, and SJSU played poorly in the second half. But when it came down to our last possession (decision making) and their last possession (coaching and execution) that’s when our shortfalls showed clearly.

  187. Ed. October 15, 2011 2:00 pm

    I’m watching Boise on T.V. What makes them so good is that they are so creative on offensive, really exciting offense to watch. I really think it’s time to really open up our playbook. We have become so predictable in what we do, and when things are not working we have no options.

  188. Ralph October 15, 2011 2:03 pm

    More kicking issues, K State has blocked both TT field goal attempts in the first quarter.

  189. Ralph October 15, 2011 2:08 pm

    Rolo is only in his second year as an OC. Don’t believe all the hype that he would be in demand any time soon, he is on his own learning curve. It takes time to learn to make quick snap time decisions but he is learning and each snap, each game gives him a wealth of new experience to build on.

  190. Disappointed October 15, 2011 2:09 pm

    What about Moniz? Has anybody seen enough and would like to see Austin or Graves start?

  191. Ralph October 15, 2011 2:10 pm

    K State up 20-14 with under 5 minutes to go. I’m excited because Synder wins 80%+ when his ‘Cats lead at half time.

  192. longdistance808 October 15, 2011 2:13 pm

    #168 papajoe,

    The sticks were about 40 feet directly in front of me on that 4th down. I thought, “Wow. That’s only the length of the ref’s shoe.” That ref was about the size of Kenton Chun.

    As the saying goes: “If you can’t get one yard with the game on the line, then you don’t deserve to win.”

    I add to that: If you don’t even try to get that yard, then you don’t even really belong on the field.”

  193. Disappointed October 15, 2011 2:33 pm

    Now that I’ve had a chance to read through a bunch of the posts, I see that I am not alone in wanting a change at QB. Hopefully it comes soon.

  194. Bernardo Katoa October 15, 2011 2:35 pm

    Was killin in tennis today niggas couldnt see me

  195. Lyndon Woodfin October 15, 2011 2:35 pm

    Greetings to all. Today the third my day without tennis!!!! Ааа I can’t any more so!!

  196. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 15, 2011 2:35 pm

    I can easily see that 4th and inches thing going the other way if we didn’t get it.

    If for some reason the snap is jumblefumbled (nothing we haven’t already seen this season) then we would have been hell too.

    There are many who would come out to say that punting and putting our defense which was doing pretty well was the smarter bet.

    I put that entire 1 minute drive on Aranda or Mack’s shoulder. We played soft prevent instead of the normal defense we did all 2nd half. Would have rather seen a Tampa 2 employed.

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  202. Ralph October 15, 2011 2:59 pm

    TRY AGAIN IWWTHME come to the Waipio complex tomorrow and watch the world’s real futbol, Na Wahine vs San Jose State at 5 p.m.

  203. Ralph October 15, 2011 3:01 pm

    Papajoe2 you are also invited to join us at the Waipio complex for some futbol, bring Kapahulu with you. Kevin, Chawan Cut, Koakane and I will be there or at least we plan to be there weather permitting.

  204. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 15, 2011 3:04 pm


    What do you mean “try again” ?

  205. A-House October 15, 2011 3:08 pm

    One thing is for sure and that is UH football coaches are very tunneled vision, static, true to themselves in not wanting to go “outside the box”, lack the guts to try different plays/schemes, etc.

    That is really sad and does not bode well for now and in the future.

    And what good is a prevent defense in the last 1:46 minutes in the game and they give up first down after first down and finally a TD! Is it the coaches? players? both?

    Yet, I will continue to support UH athlectics!!!!!!!!!

  206. koakane October 15, 2011 3:19 pm

    imho UH should have run Iosefa 4 xs to make the one yard. that would have been the better %age base on kicking failures that happened during game

  207. Ralph October 15, 2011 3:22 pm

    IWWTHM see #201, hit the enter key too soon

  208. Alona Atiyeh October 15, 2011 3:30 pm

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  209. Kapahulu October 15, 2011 3:34 pm


    I saw the Wahine Soccer team play in person against San Diego State at UNLV the same weekend as the UH/UNLV football game. Was Hot!

  210. A-joe October 15, 2011 3:35 pm

    185: Shannon- ESPN could care less how we feel. The game got good reviews nationwide. Win or lose, ESPN loves Hawaii and will continue to broadcast our games. As long as we would like to. Which we do.

  211. A-joe October 15, 2011 3:39 pm

    193: Hope next year is soon enough for you.

  212. funny October 15, 2011 3:43 pm

    @149 Newsflash: Moniz had no chance for the Heisman. His skills are above average at best and even before the injuries to the OL, it was a week unit and offered him little to no protection.

    @158 Rolo doesn’t make thee decision to pull the QB, Mac does or, in this case, doesn’t. But then again, most seem to feel that Mac shouldn’t be held accountable for numerous poor efforts.

  213. Ralph October 15, 2011 3:47 pm

    Kapahulu, at least you were in the stands, imagine playing and running for 90 minutes. The mid fielders run a lot of short burst but they do a lot of running under the sun.

  214. Ralph October 15, 2011 3:49 pm

    Ajoe and if we corner the China market, then ESPN would get us into a BCS conference for sure.

  215. A-House October 15, 2011 3:51 pm

    4th and less than a foot – why not do a QB option to the “weak side” where QB can turn up field for the 7″ or shovel ball to the RB if challenged at the LOS?

    why go back to the same-o-same of “milking the play time clock” before taking the snap? gives D time to adjust knowing what UH will do, passing wise.

    at the end of the 1st quarter, I was yelling to my self “change the QB” – let him sit for 2 or 3 series of plays or more if necessary and then he can go back into the game. What’s wrong with that? Does Rolo have the “moral courage” to do this? likewise, why not pull a WR who runs a “post pattern” for one play to get his wind back – let his replacement do the same – will the DB be just as effective on the 3rd try? Certain UH coaches say the WR run more in practice than game time – maybe so, but practice is not “game time”!!

  216. Ipu Man October 15, 2011 3:56 pm


    UH 35 Aggies 14

    Moniz will throw long bomb TD…

    Joey and Sterling both will score…

    Torres and big D will score…

    2nd Team QB will pass for a TD…

  217. A-joe October 15, 2011 4:06 pm

    Hau’oli La Hanau, Mrs. LK

    Hau’oli La Hanau, A-Sports

  218. Hawaiianbod October 15, 2011 4:13 pm

    Happy Birthday A-Sports!

  219. Ralph October 15, 2011 4:19 pm

    K State wins at Texas Tech, now 6-0 for the season. Just win, baby.

  220. Hawaiianbod October 15, 2011 4:22 pm

    congrads ralph!

  221. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 4:23 pm

    I think I read correctly that Kennen Moore of Boise just tied Timmy Chang for 5th on the all time touchdown passes. Can anybody confirm?

  222. el burro sabio October 15, 2011 4:25 pm

    If you have a, 4th down on your own half of the field, if the strength of your team is it’s defense, if you have a good punter, you punt.

    Mo was responsible for 4 turnovers, leading to a grand total of 3 points. IMO, the most costly error was Harding’s fumble on the kickoff, the next most costly error because of the momentum swing was the blocked extra point, 9 points in all.

  223. Ralph October 15, 2011 4:27 pm

    wow AJoe u waited this long to wish A sports happy birthday.

  224. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 4:27 pm

    Sometimes I no believe what I read. Like when I woke up this morning and read UH lost to SJS even though I saw the game. Must be the public school thing.

  225. Ralph October 15, 2011 4:28 pm

    K State is bowl eligible at 6-0. Purple Pride rolls on.

  226. Ralph October 15, 2011 4:37 pm

    K State will be in our house on Dec. 22 to play the Salukis of Southern Illinois in a first round game of the Diamond Head Christmas Classic. They got the matinee schedule, 12 noon games, but at least the games are general admission for $10, sit anywhere, first come, first serve.

  227. Hawaiianbod October 15, 2011 4:38 pm

    Kellen Moore

    (public skool)

  228. Ralph October 15, 2011 4:40 pm

    papajoe2 join us tomorrow at the Waipio complex and cheer on the Na Wahine soccer girls, and it’s senior night. They lead the WAC at 3-1. Time for some real futbol.

  229. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 4:56 pm

    Hbod, maybe he cahnged his name. lol. Actually, not thinking good. We saw enough of Kellen to know what his name is.

  230. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 4:59 pm

    Ralph, I don’t know if I can make it. I will try. Where will you folks be sitting? I need to distract the wife and make a get away. I need to say hello to Kathy and Bud.

  231. papajoe2 October 15, 2011 5:00 pm

    changed. did it again.

  232. Hawaiianbod October 15, 2011 5:02 pm

    ppj2 – no worries unko!

  233. Garret October 15, 2011 5:13 pm

    I thought that the decision to punt was a good one because the Warrior D is the strength of the team. Power running is *not* the strength of the 4-wide offense, there are no double-TE formations to grind out a yard like Coach Tomey had back when he made that comment at UH. So, I back the decision by Coach Mack there.

    I don’t back the prevent defense–UH’s regular D had stopped SJSU over and over, there was no benefit for the prevent D. Time wasn’t even a factor for SJSU at that point.

    I posted over and over during the game that UH’s senior leadership came through during the game. Torres made some huge plays. Paredes is a turnover creating machine. Pollard was dominant before he got hurt. Tuipulotu, Meatoga, Masch, all play hard and cause havok for opposing offenses. I really appreciate all of UH’s senior leaders and those bashing Moniz will miss him next year.

  234. Garret October 15, 2011 5:14 pm

    Here is a nice, positive story.

    Perhaps the most memorable moments of the game came from 11-year-old Kelan Lawson. Diagnosed with cerebral palsy he has dreams of being a football coach. SMU head coach June Jones learned of Lawson’s wish and designated him an honorary coach for the game. Lawson spent the last two days with the team doing everything they do and even speaking to the team. After the game Coach Jones said years from now he probably won’t remember exactly what happened in this game but he would remember that. As the game came to an end Lawson was beside himself in tears as the day had come to an end. He mother summed up the experience as “incredible.”

  235. Garret October 15, 2011 5:15 pm

    Brian Kajiyama got a mention by ESPN.

    Jones felt a bond to Lawson that went back to his time coaching at Hawaii. One of Jones’ graduate assistants then was Brian Kajiyama, who also has cerebral palsy.

    Lawson saw an ESPN profile on Kajiyama and would go on to befriend him. Lawson spoke to the Mustangs on Thursday, which is when Jones learned that the preteen assistant also knew Kajiyama.

  236. Ralph October 15, 2011 5:17 pm

    papajoe2 you don’t need the distract the wife, tell her you want her to meet some great people, friends of yours that you are dying to see and greet after a long absence, then drive her to the Waipio stadium and tell her to hurry up before she starts thinking “eh, what’s going on”, “we at one soccer stadium”.

    sitting on the makai stands, below the announcers booth and cameras-centerline.

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  238. Garret October 15, 2011 5:17 pm

    SMU made a good defense look bad today. Next year when they play each other it could be a Big East conference game.

    UCF came into the game ranked No. 1 nationally in pass defense, but SMU quarterback J.J. McDermott threw for 358 yards and made the Knights’ secondary look more disorganized than a teenage girl’s closet.,0,1445103.column

  239. Garret October 15, 2011 5:23 pm

    GARRET: What about that ESPN story (comment?) that BSU and AFA will turn down the invitation to the Big East? Is there any merit to that story?


    BSU would prefer the Big 12 over the Big East (who wouldn’t?), but their comments today basically let everyone know they were leaving the MWC. ESPN was apparently getting their information from *MWC* sources, not from BSU…not the most unbiased sources.

    Kustra said he has two major objectives for his program — increasing TV revenue and achieving BCS status. The Big East has AQ status with the BCS. The Mountain West does not.

    He said the Mountain West TV contract, which pays each member about $1.4 million per year, is not adequate. The Mountain West has games on Versus, CBS Sports and The Mtn.

    “I don’t think anybody in the Mountain West thinks the TV deal is what it should be,” he said.

  240. Garret October 15, 2011 5:25 pm

    I like that Pres. Kustra openly admits that BSU’s academics aren’t good enough for the Pac-12, but says that he’ll continue to upgrade the academics until they are worthy. That is a vision that I wish UH had.

    Kustra said the Pac-12 is the most logical fit for Boise State, but the school’s academics need to continue improving before it becomes a realistic option.

    “That day will probably come,” he said. “… Those days aren’t here yet.”

  241. rainbowfan October 15, 2011 5:33 pm

    The other teams may be stacking up on the line, so UH should have Shane Austin throw a pass for two points or some other play until the opposing teams stop stacking up on the line on the extra point and FG attempts.

  242. NYUH October 15, 2011 5:57 pm

    In case you are finding it hard to get stats at SA.

  243. LizKauai (macbook) October 15, 2011 6:03 pm

    Yes, you are right.

    If our coaches could see in foresight what all the armchair experts can see in hindsight, the outcome may have been different.

    But as I so poignantly have learned recently from Oprah, the key to happiness is letting go of the past that we thought we wanted. We can’t really change that past so we need to release the negative perception of that past and come back to the present.

    Forgiveness is giving up the hope that the past could be any different.

    Want the Warriors to succeed from here on out?

    Think, say and be positive.

    Encourage everyone involved and lift them up in your thoughts, prayers, words and actions.


  244. Last Call October 15, 2011 6:34 pm

    Kustra nauseates me .

  245. Rip October 15, 2011 6:55 pm

    The thing that jumps out at me the most is that is really Mack’s team. Mostly his recruits are playing, Rolo’s system is in the second year, and although Aranda is called defensive coordinator he’s running Mack’s same old defensive package that hasn’t changed since his Texas Tech days. (Mack “retired” there for those who don’t remember). This team was supposed to be “fast and smart” and “our guys” according to Mack and this team is far from terribly athletic, big or fast. Maybe it’s time to quit writing about every recruit we sign (most of which in the Mack era no one has ever heard about) like they are big time kids, cause they don’t play like it. On a side note, when you get a commitment and the only other school to offer the kid is Portland State or Idaho don’t pull our chains any more about how we “stole one”. It’s an insult to our fans who know football as good as anyone. The Tulsa destruction at home in last years Hawaii bowl told me alot about this season but we were supposed to believe that this team was special. The most glaring thing about this team is it’s personality. That is it’s a front running team, a team that is tough when it jumps on you or gets ahead with emotion driving it, but who wilts when behind and lacks courage and comeback ability. It lacks belief in itself, does not play together for 4 quarters and that comes from up top. It’s poorly coached, it is has no real game breakers on offense, no real vertical stretch capability, a gamer and tough kid at QB with a ton of heart but with no long ball threat of an arm, a poor pass protection scheme, (looks like turn protection to me) some courageous undersized warriors on defense (Torres, Brown and John T bring 4 quarters every week with Warrior sized efforts) that is built to zone dog predictably (and built to support an offense that scores lots of points which we don’t) but gets soft when the ball is run right at its face and has trouble reading simple pass- run keys and gets hammered with play action. Special teams are the worst in the county, why sugarcoat it? If we were in a real conference, we’d be 2-4 or 1-5. Fact it, neither UNLV or San Jose State would be favored to win the Big Sky which is D-1AA. Recruiting has fallen off since June left, and he didn’t recruit. In fact on the o-line position recruiting is getting dangerously inept with empty cupboards looking the path to our future. Lastly how can Rolo be picked to run his own watered down version of the Run and Shoot when the guy who brought it to high school, college football and the NFL and re-invented it the living legend Mouse Davis is on the same staff? Mouse led the nation in offense for about the 20th time most recently while at Portland State while Rolo was a QB coach at a JC. Mouse has more time using urinals in college football stadiums than Rolo has coaching college altogether. Every great run and shoot based team in the last 30 years has had a running game that will punish you when you pull folks out of the box to cover the base 4 wide and or trips formations the run and shoot live and die by. Sure we might win a bunch more games against the sisters of the poor and play in our own personal Bowl game which we’ve been smashed in on national TV twice but we expect and deserve more. It’s time to get this ship sailing or find another Captain. There are plenty of great young coaches with high energy and who can recruit on BCS staffs who would love to lead the Warriors onto a windy paper covered turf with ti leaves waving and a packed house rocking like only Aloha stadium does and the current Captain of this ship needs to know he gets no more free passes and Aloha until it gets turned around. And they’d do it for half a million bucks. No more “he’s a nice guy” nonsense, he makes a million dollars a year in a state that doesn’t have textbooks for students in schools. No at a million a year in the worst conference in college football we beat the UNLVs and San Jose States handily and compete toe to toe against the big boys of college football. I didn’t say beat the big boys every Saturday, but damn it should compete nose to nose with anybody. That’s what should be expected and that’s what the great fans of this state deserve. Period.

  246. Buffoman October 15, 2011 7:05 pm

    I agree with Garret, people will be missing Moniz when he’s no longer back there. Moniz makes mistakes and he may seem nonchalant , but make no mistake, the guy knows how to lead.

    I was disappointed and was one who said maybe he should be sat down for a bit, but he turned it around. His o-line does not give him much time and he has had to improvise. Got him in trouble this time (remember that lucky shot to Stutz in the end of the ned zone on that last game? Could have been a pick there.).

    The inconsistency is incredibly frustrating. The two temas played badly, but we were supposed to win. We were the better team and we just played down to the competition and it came back to bite us. Good, consistently high performing teams do not do this.

  247. Stretch October 15, 2011 7:05 pm

    Howzit Tsaikos!!

    Still here in SF so haven’t seen any interviews with Mack or the Coach Mack show. What I am tired of hearing and i hope he doesnt say again is, “I take full responsibility for the loss”. If that is his response to the loss, I hope he takes the ULTIMATE responsibility and step down. That line is getting old.

  248. Garret October 15, 2011 7:15 pm

    Q&A with Kealoha Pilares. Here is his answer to one of the questions:

    Everyone talks about the aloha spirit and everybody kind of treats everyone like they’re family. Driving or going anywhere, there’s this hospitality that everyone has. The beauty of it, living there, it’s a great thing. You kind of take it for granted but being here for so long you’re kind of like, that’s why everyone sees Hawaii as Hawaii. You kind of think of it as normal but it really is a special place.

  249. Lionel M October 15, 2011 7:24 pm

    Here is my $.02.

    I don’t think you can put the blame on only the kicker. The kicking game problem is with the whole kicking team. The line not doing their job blocking, probably the snapper not snapping quick enough, and kicker kicking a low line drives which are easy to block.

    The other problem with the kicking game that I see is the kick off. I can’t recall Hawaii kicking a touch back this season. The deepest kick I remember is to the 10 yard line. Add to that, is the kick coverage. We are yielding too much field position.

    Has thought been given to use Dunnachie for place kicking?

    As for the possession that SJSU scored the winning touchdown, what the heck? We had them pinned somewhere on the 10 yard line. You would think the defense could stop them. It looks like UH went into a “prevent” defense. A prevent defense prevents you from winning the game.

    The coaching staff has to regroup and focus on getting the team better. We’ve certainly got the talent on the team to do so. There are still 7 games left in the season and still the possibility of a WAC championship.

    Aloha No


  250. koakane October 15, 2011 7:33 pm


    I would have preferred Iosefa run 3 times and when Monis keep the ball should have been an option like Ahouse alluded to. I think at least there was a better chance to make the yard and run out the clock instead of the field goal only because of the many block kicks and problems with the line protection.

  251. Stretch October 15, 2011 7:42 pm

    The loss is due to preparation of team over the two weeks. It comes down to QUALITY practices. Going thru the motions is not preparing the team for the game. The offense was out of sync.

    I hope Tomey will man up and show up to the Na Koa lunch on Monday as he is scheduled. There are a lot of questions that HE needs to answer. He needs to quit trying to position himself to be the next head coach and concentrate on his job right now.

  252. rainbowfan October 15, 2011 8:13 pm

    UH better recruit place kickers and holders that can run 4.4 in the forty, so that they can catch the ball carrier on the blocked kicks which don’t be surprised will happen again.

  253. madeinhawaii October 15, 2011 8:24 pm


    In what sense is/are UH’s academics lacking?

    Can you provide some examples/insight? Thanks

  254. Lionel M October 15, 2011 8:28 pm

    I agree wholeheartedly with markazulu (#111) We need to support the team through thick and thin. The fans at Michigan St. fill the 75,000 seat Spartan Stadium win or lose.

  255. cocobean October 15, 2011 8:51 pm

    #251. Agree. It’s always been my opinion that one area Mack has to improve on is how to handle long breaks between games. I’ll say it again, it was the like the Hawaii Bowl revisited.

    I try to avoid critisizing any of our coaches directly. But it’s been bothering me whether Tomey is coaching by reputation rather than actually getting down to the nuts and bolts of things.

  256. Goin2Play October 15, 2011 9:11 pm

    I was a huge believer in Coach Tomey and believed that he would turn our Special Teams around this year. I have tremendous respect for what Coach Tomey has accomplished throughout his career. I don’t and will never have the knowledge Coach Tomey has.

    That said….

    We need coaches who are able to make on field “game day” adjustments. Not, “I don’t know what is went wrong until I see the video…” If something goes wrong and you can’t see what happened from the sidelines. Ask the players!!! It is critical to find out immediately what went wrong and make the correction AT THAT MOMENT. Not next week when someone is doing a different variation or now scheming for our Special Teams because of the reputation UH has built of EXTREMELY POOR SPECIAL TEAMS!!!

  257. Slugger October 15, 2011 9:14 pm

    Happy birthday, A-Sports!!!

    Not even going to bother reading through all comments to catch up on the blog. Just reading ST’s & a couple of positive ones. Busy all day.

    Watching the LaTech game as I transfer it from tape. Much better…

    What’s the difference???

    Definitely going to Monday’s Na Koa luncheon. I want to know what happened.

  258. kev-1 October 15, 2011 9:15 pm

    #256 . . . very good point

  259. kev-1 October 15, 2011 9:22 pm

    #246 Buffoman . . . I disagree with your comment about Moniz. I think he is skilled enough to be the starter but needs to be more consistent and accurate. But he is definitely talented enough and knows the offense. I do not, however, know how to lead. Leaders get their teams fired up. Leaders get on themselves about mistakes. Leaders don’t sit on the bench by themselves most of the time on the sidelines. And leaders definitely are not lackadaisical and non-chalant in crucial moments. The only time you see Moniz fired up is when he scores a makes a big play. He needs to be more of a leader.

    I sense that the team feels that way sometimes too.

  260. kev-1 October 15, 2011 9:32 pm

    According to the Rams blog “From the Sidelines” . . . “keep an eye on rookie WR Greg Salas.” Sounds like he may get another shot this week. Also read he’s been improving in practice. I don’t think they’ll have him doing punts anymore. They brought in someone else for that. This way he can focus on what he does best and keep himself in the conversation. I don’t want him to have a Chad Owens experience . . . special teams errors ended his NFL career.

    Good Luck Salas!!!!!!

  261. polywarrior4life October 15, 2011 10:01 pm

    One word, “Pathetic!”

  262. empty October 15, 2011 10:41 pm

    I’ve been wondering if they could teach Iosefa to kick extra points. That way they could try to run it up the middle once in a while with a direct hike to him. It can’t hurt. It only needs to go about 20 yards. I also agree that they should try the backup qbs when Mo is struggling. Back to lurking.

  263. Bleed Green and White October 15, 2011 10:51 pm

    Just my thoughts and not a personal attack toward anyone, so please don’t take it that away.

    This talk about benching Moniz, in my opinion, is absolutely ridiculous!

    Sit the best player on the team, how crazy is that? Sure, the guy threw three interceptions, but he continues to play his butt off, despite and offensive line that is just pathetic. He scrambles, extends plays, gets “lit up” seemingly on, during and after every pass he attempts.

    Why Moniz is not a “Rock Star” like Colt Brennan was, well, I do not understand that at all.

    I love the kids effort, his cool headed calmness, his toughness, everything about the kid. He’s a winner. But gang, this is a football team, he cannot do it alone.

    Problems with the Warriors, there are many. Offensive line, special teams, coaching (Tomey – Mack too for that matter), and as we have seen and will continue to see…..recruiting.

    Torres, damn, that kid could play for me any day. So could Meatoga, Tuipulotu, Paredes and Brown.

    Where would this team without Clayton Laurel and / or Joey Iosefa?

    I bleed green and white, but dang, these are some tough times!

  264. al October 15, 2011 11:08 pm

    again…i reiterate.

    we lost because of unpreparedness.


    October 14th, 2011 at 9:51 pm

    hate to be the one…

    saturday = off

    sunday = off

    monday = video and light workouts

    tuesday = full practice

    wednesday = semi full practice its traveling day

    thursday = non serious walk thru

    is there any wonder why we looked flat (again).

    the week before was fun and games too.

    i thought we learned from the unlv debacle?

    i thought we learned from the hawaii bowl(s).

    you could see some of the disconnect with miah out there including a critical dropped ball from the usually surehanded ostrowski. routes seemed not as crisp and often the receivers were not looking for the ball while it was in the air. a couple of times the receivers went zig instead of zag, thus a few critical “errant tosses”. i thought that having miah in there may have added to the confusions. again this could have been remedied with a more diligent practice plan.

    time and again moniz had to let fly prematurely or was scrambling from a basic four man rush. blocking techniques need to shored up as well as footwork.

    kicking game is broken. say no more. open auditions need to be made for the place kick units. too wide of a gap between the linemen and not enough stout men in there. me, i’d put tuipulotu, meatoga, hanohano, and the other wide bodies.

    i could go on…………..

  265. al October 15, 2011 11:10 pm

    no moniz should not be benched. its the coach who needs to be benched.

    we are not preparing them to suceed.

  266. al October 15, 2011 11:13 pm

    tommui…burgers next week.

  267. al October 15, 2011 11:15 pm

    iosefa as the wildcat, no call it the wild boar instead, would be an effective alternate to the rns. this guy can toss the rock, too and with each game he is becoming a better runner from the week before.

  268. al October 15, 2011 11:34 pm

    what we are witnessing this year is the anti-culmination of the ineffeciencies we have “welded” over the past few years.

    it needs to be corrected asap before it totally unravels and becomes unsalvageable.

  269. Liz Kauai (macbook) October 15, 2011 11:58 pm

    “Last Sunday, they introduced rookie running back Alex Green to the mix.

    It was just one play and some fans may have even missed it, but for Green it was a rather large step in getting the coaches to trust him. He converted on third and 2 at the Atlanta 21-yard line with a 6-yard catch out of the backfield.”

    Salas and Green in the same game!

  270. Shannon October 16, 2011 12:07 am

    Amen @al! Only thing I don’t see is Iosefa lining up for PAT’s… But then again, what’s “normal” special teams isn’t working for us either. I don’t see that as the solution but maybe as an alternative… Thing is, it’s not the kicker but the line that’s failing on special teams. It’s extremely sad that our PAT’s aren’t “automatic” though…

  271. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc October 16, 2011 12:19 am

    Interesting comments – please compare them to the ones made after the LaTech game.

    The more things change, the more they stay the same.

  272. Not an Expert October 16, 2011 1:12 am

    Reports stated that the Big East did send out invites to 5 schools which includes Boise State. However Boise denies getting an invite. Trick plays off the field too. Good way not having to answer.

    Come next week it will be clear. Money talks and it’s not the conferences it’s the networks. Higher ups in the networks have stronger ties to the BE than the MWC or C-USA. Advantage BE. The MWC TV deal sucks and if it is so till 2016 you can say goodbye to teams like Boise and Air Force.

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  274. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 16, 2011 1:14 am

    Are we moving forward form 2007, stagnant, or going backwards?

    Increased $$$ in facilities, coaching salaries across the board, recruiting budgets, donations, exposure on TV, supposedly better recruits.

    We may not have huge financial resources, but no denying its a hell of a lot better than JJ ever had.

    Has the investments been used by our leaders on staff to position ourselves a step closer to a legitimate college football program?

  275. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 16, 2011 1:16 am


    And the funny thing is in 2016, you could probably say goodbye to WV, Loui, Cincy, UConn.

    Would be interesting to see what kind of TV money the BE gets with some of those schools gone.

  276. Garret October 16, 2011 3:03 am


    In what sense is/are UH’s academics lacking?

    Can you provide some examples/insight? Thanks

    UH does have good Academics and does a decent amount of research, which brings in good faculty and all of those research grants bring money into the state. All very positive things. I am *not* criticizing UH’s academics…I am criticizing the *direction* of UH’s Upper Campus priorities.

    Boise State is adding PhD programs, building new buildings for Academics, upgrading their faculty, and maintaining all of their Academic facilities. Their direction is clearly upwards and they are continually bringing in more money to upgrade their Academic side.

    UH is cutting budgets, cutting classes so students cannot take classes they need to graduate on time, doing a horrible job of maintaining Academic facilities (dorms not taken care of, roofs leaking, labs not maintained), and have the students worried about the huge tuition increase that is coming. The message to the faculty and students are that budget cuts will reduce what they currently have for Academics, tuition increases will squeeze the students and drive some away, and the Academic facilities weren’t maintained well before the budget cuts so I hate to see how well things are maintained in the future.

    I have heard some pretty depressing things from UH faculty. Lots of people see what is happening with Hawaii’s budget situation and see the pain the budget cuts and tuition increases will cause. Does that indicate a positive direction?

  277. Garret October 16, 2011 3:13 am

    The new Sagarin ratings are out.


    50 Nevada

    90 SJSU

    96 Fresno State

    99 UH

    122 La Tech

    123 Utah State

    135 NMSU

    169 Idano


    8 BSU (SOS is hurting them)

    40 TCU

    62 SDSU

    85 Air Force

    93 Wyoming

    127 Colorado State

    147 UNLV

    215 New Mexico (!!)

    Others of interest

    47 BYU

    178 Tulane

    18 Houston

    28 SMU

  278. Garret October 16, 2011 3:20 am

    NY Daily News says that the new Big East (if it happens as expected) will get a better TV deal than the Big East with TCU/Syracuse/Pitt would have.

    Despite ESPN reports that Boise State and Air Force would stay in the Mountain West, it appears both schools are ready to pull the trigger and make the move to the Big East, which has a better chance to be an AQ league and should wind up with a more lucrative TV contract and maintain its BCS status.

    A new Big East, which would be divided into two divisions with Rutgers, Connecticut, West Virginia, Temple and Central Florida, in the East and Houston, Boise State, SMU, Houston, Air Force, Louisville and Cincinnati in the West, would be stronger than the old Big East with Pitt, Syracuse and TCU in football and more attractive to TV when it re-negotiates its contract next fall.

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  280. Garret October 16, 2011 3:24 am

    UH was #42 in the BCS standings last week. I just found out about this news page on that shows the BCS ranking breakdown. UH will probably lose the coach that voted for it last week and already has dropped from #75 to #99 in Sagarin, but it is nice to know that UH was that high last week. If UH can run the table, UH will move up again in these standings.

  281. Garret October 16, 2011 3:26 am

    I don’t know what a “news page” is…probably woke up too early and my mind isn’t working. I think I meant to just type “page”.

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  284. Garret October 16, 2011 3:39 am

    BSU is talking about stretching this realignment process out maybe 6 weeks.

    We’re talking possibly up to six weeks. Media reports tend to get ahead of actual decision-making in these cases. Witness Missouri, which continues to deliberate between committing to the Big 12 and joining the SEC. The Broncos have two primary objectives: making sure television revenues increase to fund the Broncos’ athletic department and securing BCS AQ status.

    The Big East might have both. Stress might.

    The Mountain West definitely has neither.

  285. Wes'side Warrior October 16, 2011 4:06 am

    #42… Garret:

    The MWC wasn’t able to get any upgrades in its TV contract even when it had TCU, BYU, and Utah. The TV deal didn’t get upgraded when BSU joined. It appears that the broadcaster side has all the power in this contract, and they have decided to keep the contract unchanged because they are getting such a great deal. That shows you that they don’t care if they have a good relationship with the MWC…and that they aren’t worried about losing the MWC’s TV rights when the contract runs out.

    Remember, the MWC said that even after this merger they would be abiding by their current TV contract. So, the changes that the MWC is making isn’t enough to get a penny more from TV it appears except for maybe the title game…though ESPN owns the rights to the CUSA title game for free so making title game money could be hard too.

    At first, you make it sound like the MWC is happy with what they are getting from their tv deal, and will just abide by their contract. They aren’t even concerned that they are getting less than they are possibly worth.

    #239… Garret:

    He said the Mountain West TV contract, which pays each member about $1.4 million per year, is not adequate. The Mountain West has games on Versus, CBS Sports and The Mtn.

    “I don’t think anybody in the Mountain West thinks the TV deal is what it should be,” he said.

    Then you post this, which, according to BSU’s President Kustra, plainly states that no one in the MWC is happy with the tv contract.

    Maybe if the MWC shopped itself around to see what they might be worth, with all of this movement to include this new alliance with CUSA, we might be able to hang onto the teams we have and get that AQ spot. Instead, we once again experience deja vu, and see teams bolting to other conferences at a moment’s notice.

    I wonder who is keeping us from shopping around? Is it the Presidents and AD’s of the newest members? Those that are just happy with getting more than they once got from the WAC, and therefore don’t want to rock the boat? If we look at it, the teams that left, plus those that are being pursued would be enough of a force to get that AQ spot. Instead, we (mid majors) continue to allow ourselves to be a feeder conference for the big sharks. We should be showing solidarity and loyalty.

  286. maddog50 October 16, 2011 4:21 am

    You donot win when you team effort does not look like the LA Tech effort. That was energy and hunger. With that effort this team would be 5-1. KO out of bounds…..punts not long enough….Pat….Fg….blocking. Missed tackles…..going for the ball with your all on both sides. Play selection and scheme defenses out of place. That being said you can cure alot of ills with effort…..plain and simple. I live and die with Warrior football and will continue to do so. There is enough talent on this team to have a successful year….9 wins. Now is the time to clear that up….so far as it goes there are no opponents that will allow anything less. Forget the WAC nonsense…..the bowl nonsense…..the firing nonsense and go play the game you are capable of playing. Warriors!

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  291. A-TEAM October 16, 2011 4:11 pm

    I was at the game on Friday. After the first interception/fumble, I got revelations of the UNLV game. Got home and watched the the recorded version. Fumble, interceptions, missed tackles/assignments, FG/PAT’s, is not the coaches fault. It all comes down to who want it more, who is more mentally prepared that day. UH is different team when they are on the road, but at home they’re BEASTS. It’s frustrating that as good as UH, they seem to lower their standards when playing lesser teams. SJSU is in a re-building phase. As far as the BLOCKED FG/PAT, O/L if you stand up and forget to step inside, GUESS WHAT!!!!!!!!!! Back to the basics. How about some smashmouth football. Give Sefa the ball. Stop trying to break passing records thats why they’re laughing at us.

  292. Don Weir October 16, 2011 6:10 pm

    Random Ramblings and Observations

    A good friend is the scout in San Diego for the Raiders. He goes to every Chargers game and scouts it. Several years ago he saw a breakdown in the Charger’s special teams and reported it. The next Chargers/Raiders game the Raiders blocked one punt and one field goal. Al D sent him $500 in addition to his scouting pay.

    Think anyone scouts UH’s special teams? Think anyone has seen the breakdown on special teams and capitalized on it? Think opponents have analyzed play calling, pass routes, and defensive schemes and run tendency calculations? Does UH run the same calculations on itself??

    Interesting articles in today’s Star Advertiser concerning coaching pay. UH has shelled out a serious amount of money for special teams coaches in the past three years. Na Koa pays about a $30k premium stipend to a coach, in addition to his UH salary, who hasn’t produced either in recruiting or in coaching up players. These are personnel decisions that would make a private sector HR Department cringe.

    To everyone who said we had to ‘save’ the recruiting year by bringing in a coach without a national search a while back I say to you ‘ we are now paying the price.’ There comes a time to bite the bullet in order to move forward. I just don’t know where we are in that time cycle today.

    Tom Mui, such a noble effort in the donation area but in the long term?? There is an endowment set up in Na Koa (the only one) that will help the Warriors well into the future; it is money well invested, if spent wisely, if spent wisely, if spent wisely, when looking at the big picture. We all might think about investing in the future rather than the short term. I have a tendency to repeat certain key points as you can see.

    Dave Reardon asked me when I resigned from Na Koa what was up. I referred him and all others that wondered to the quote in “All the President’s Men”, ‘follow the money’. It still is true today.

    I am proud to have played for the University of Hawaii and I am proud of the UH Warriors on the field today.


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    What an unfortunate situation. Unnecessary losses piling up in the record books. And for no good reason. No reason other than a head coach in over his head. A head coach who will do anything but the right thing to “avoid confrontation or controversy!” The people of Hawaii deserves better. They deserve better than a leader who is willing to go down with the ship rather than admit he might be wrong. A leader who is really only good at politics, but not much else when it comes to winning football games. On a positive note he has surrounded himself with good coaches, ones who are better equipment to lead the team. But when it comes down to those crucial moments when decisions need to be made in a split second, assistant coaches, DO NOT defer to Coach Mac. That is not his strength. Our team has lost too many games that we should not have lost. The last two bowl games, UNLV and now San Jose come to mind as blatant examples of such. Our players deserve better! Overhead a fan after the last game saying he hoped Moniz’s performance doesn’t take down Coach Mac…No its the other way around Coach Mac is taking down the players.

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