Sunday thoughts

It wasn’t pretty, but football games aren’t beauty contests, and now a week after a doomsday feel, the Warriors are back in the WAC race. Nevada is 2-0. Hawaii, LaTech, San Jose State and Fresno State are tied at 2-1. And the Warriors’ next two games are against the only teams with no WAC victories — Idaho (0-3) and Utah State (0-2).

• There has to be correlation between the Warriors’ slow starts and the long wait between the end of warmups and kickoff. It’s great to have two anthems, but not-so-great to then have a contest and, it always seems, a big-check presentation or pre-game announcement. That’s a long time for the cheerleader to be on the surfboard waiting to catch a wave. Then again, who cares? The double-flag entry is the most chicken-skin monent in the WAC.

• There were a lot of ailing Warriors. Several, including receivers Darius Bright and Billy Ray Stutzmann, were hurling on the Hawaii Airlines Field at Aloha Stadium. (Hey, I finally got to use that clunky title in a sentence.)

• Interesting post-game comments from Greg McMackin that UH circulated:

“If everyone wants to focus on PAT and field goals, I got the remedy for that, we’ll just go for two. If people want to write about that, I’ll be responsible for the PAT and Dick (Tomey, UH’s special teams coach) can handle the rest of it. I don’t like people attacking our coaches when they’re working their ass off. I’m really upset with it.”

And, no, wiseacres, McMackin didn’t mean he would “go for two” in field-goal situations.

• Quarterback Bryant Moniz, who rushed for two touchdowns, said he is not supposed to run. But when the other team blitzes and leaves open the middle …

• As for the juke move he made, he credits the hula class he’s taking. Shakira is right: Hips don’t lie.

• Everybody but Allen Sampson appears to be concerned about his sore knee. He thinks he’ll be ready for next week’s game. Medical tests will determine if his knee is a concern.

• But offensive lineman Chauncy Winchester-Makainai was clearly upset about the “cheap shot” in which he suffered a swollen left eye. He said his vision was blurry for several minutes.

• Give freshman Trevor Davis credit. First, he relinquishes his redshirt status by playing in the Warriors’ seventh game. Second, after practicing the past two months at right wideout, he plays left wideout in place of ailing Bright and Sampson. He admitted he had to make an adjustment to that side, and fight off butterflies and game-fast defenders, but he played well.


  1. Pomai October 23, 2011 8:54 am


  2. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 8:59 am


  3. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 8:59 am


    For some reason, it seems as if the warriors offense are regressing week by week. What gives??

  4. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 8:59 am

    I second your first, Pomai! 😆

  5. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 9:00 am

    Wow, I just posted on the old blog about the kickers. I don’t know how to transfer it to today’s blog and I have to leave. I guess I’ll repost it later.

  6. Stephen Tsai October 23, 2011 9:00 am

    It’s probably all of the offensive changes because of injuries.

    Not sure.

    But there doesn’t seem to be the offensive rhythm that many have come to expect.

  7. Pomai October 23, 2011 9:00 am

    The first is passed by vote.

  8. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 9:01 am

    Yesterday 1. Today 2. I must be regressing week by week too.

  9. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 9:03 am

    Yeah in no way did I expect their rhythm to be this off!! Weird.

  10. Shoko October 23, 2011 9:04 am

    See, I told you Coach Mack has a mean streak in him…lol!

  11. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 9:05 am

    #6 ST, I agree about all the injuries, but could it be the inexperience of a young coordinator as far as setting up a game plan?

  12. Pomai October 23, 2011 9:07 am

    offensive rhythm – could be the fact that we were spoiled by Colt, Bess and Mullins, who would spend a whole lot of the own off time throwing and running routes. I don’t know if the QB and receivers do that now?

  13. Slugger October 23, 2011 9:07 am

    Morning, again, gang!

  14. Shoko October 23, 2011 9:10 am

    Week nine polls:

  15. Last Call October 23, 2011 9:10 am

    I wanted to RUTS and didn’t really get it but I’ll take the results.

    That fight in the stands was ugly I hear.

  16. tommui October 23, 2011 9:12 am


    ST – you sent in the check?

  17. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 9:12 am

    Get the commercial crap outta the openings. We’re here to play football, not pass out checks. Let the coaches coach, let the Warriors play. Every step of the contest, including the pre game should be scripted to the team’s advantage. Nuff said.

  18. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 9:15 am

    Al Blacks doing the Haka on KHNL now. World Cup of Rugby to follow.

  19. Pomai October 23, 2011 9:16 am

    #17 – DPK I agree but you know the old saying money talks and bull$hit walks. now it should run just like this:

    End of half, band plays, start of second half.

  20. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 9:16 am

    Howdy Tom!

  21. ai-eee-soos October 23, 2011 9:19 am

    yo-go-ri, but, I’ll take the WIN

  22. markazulu October 23, 2011 9:21 am

    2 penalties for 10 yards NO BLOCKED KICKS though we missed a PAT! An Mo was 8-11 halfway through the 1st half? Thats one drive usually in the run n Shoot era but Joey Iosefa an Sterling Jackson is a good combo hope Lister can get into it to. Davis looks great he had a great burst! But Punting was great an I hope our offense can get it clicking on all phases! Great Win The SPREAD aint always a great way to judge how well a team played! Not Pretty but pretty Decent Win! Anything to get the groove back!

    Is Davis gonna be starting on the outside now?

  23. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 9:23 am

    #18 I cannot watch as i’m out the door, but did they get peppered?

  24. wafan October 23, 2011 9:27 am

    Windward folks might want to head for the high ground.

    Stay safe!

  25. LizKauai (iPad) October 23, 2011 9:34 am

    God Job, Coaches.

    Good Job, Warriors!

  26. LizKauai (iPad) October 23, 2011 9:36 am


    But you knew that.

  27. A-House October 23, 2011 9:40 am


    wats up with da windward side? gotta head 4 high ground? tsunami? hurricane? flood?

    that’s wot eye get fo not watching da news!

  28. cut n paste October 23, 2011 9:44 am

    5. papajoe2:

    October 23rd, 2011 at 9:00 am

    Wow, I just posted on the old blog about the kickers. I don’t know how to transfer it to today’s blog and I have to leave. I guess I’ll repost it later.

    here’s his post from earlier —-

    488. papajoe2:

    October 23rd, 2011 at 8:58 am

    Isn’t it ironic how I posted a few days ago when ST put pictures up of the kickers? It might have been the next day or two days later that an article came out in the SA about the Punahou kicker saying almost the same thing that I posted? Kicking coach for hire. lol. Actually, I’m just joking about the hire, but if the Warriors need help…… Being retired, I just don’t like to drive out to UH from Mililani in the heavy morning traffic and try to find parking at UH on a school day. My advice for kickers is to keep it simple. Don’t think too much and stick to basics.

  29. A-House October 23, 2011 9:46 am

    still keep my opinion that Coach Mack is a very good DC – unsure about HC

    but who goin get if he leaves – on his own or pushed out

    still believe DC and HC should be upstairs – they are the eyes and ears – they are the strategists – let the position coaches earn their keep during the game by taking info from “upstairs” and translate that into action on the field.

    jus like in da military, Army at least, with the “commander” watching, receiving information about his area of responsiblity and interest, securing options, giving mid-level commanders “orders”, and let them fight the battle.

  30. d1shima October 23, 2011 9:50 am

    Take too long for wait for Mack to come down in the middle of the game for his “family meetings”

  31. Kevin October 23, 2011 9:51 am

    I’m sorry, but going for two is NOT the effin remedy for PAT problems.

  32. Kevin October 23, 2011 9:53 am

    Commercials pay the bills the everyday fan cannot or won’t pay.

  33. d1shima October 23, 2011 9:54 am

    …score 7 TD’s instead of 6. Still get 42 points!

  34. TChahng October 23, 2011 9:57 am


    49 – 14 TChahng


  35. Kevin October 23, 2011 9:57 am

    Fight in the stands?

    Must have been because they had beer to drink…

    BUT wait, I was drinking… me and my friends were REALLY drinking. BUt we didn’t get into a fight… I don’t get it.

    70% of the people there had beers, but no automatic riot.

    Maybe it’s the PEOPLE that are the problem and not the substance?

    Gee golly gosh willikers that can’t be it. Beer itself is the devil.

  36. Wes'side Warrior October 23, 2011 9:59 am

    Morning/afternoon, everyone!

    Glad that we won last night. Forgot what it’s like to still be up after 3:30am, cheering quietly for our Warriors.

    All kinds of positives going on, but really concerned about the numbers of hurt players piling up. Some years, we go through pretty good. Other years, seems like everyone gets hurt. This year, we seem to have lots getting foot/leg injuries. Is the new turf good? Is it causing problems? Do we need to spend more time on it to get a good feel for it? What about our new shoes? Are they causing problems?

    A-House… there’s a flood advisory for the Windward side until 1pm.

  37. Kevin October 23, 2011 9:59 am

    Interesting post-game comments from Greg McMackin that UH circulated:

    “If everyone wants to focus on PAT and field goals, I got the remedy for that, we’ll just go for two. If people want to write about that, I’ll be responsible for the PAT and Dick (Tomey, UH’s special teams coach) can handle the rest of it. I don’t like people attacking our coaches when they’re working their ass off. I’m really upset with it.”

    Nothing interesting about a head coach sounding off like a little kid in “oh yeah?? oh yeah??? well, you’re a stupid head” fashion to a LEGITIMATE problem.

    Enough is enough.

    The comment in itself is just sad.

  38. Kevin October 23, 2011 10:03 am

    HPD has tasers and pepper spray.

    They should use them more often.

  39. Kekoa October 23, 2011 10:09 am

    I’m chalking up the win. Afterall, the battle cry was “Just Win Baby!” Nobody said it had to be pretty.

  40. A-House October 23, 2011 10:20 am


    thanks for the heads-up! hope your area is getting “cool”, clear, and dry!

    going out to lunch at Wah Kung in a few minutes – hope the storm holds off till we come home. it’s kinda warm, muggy with no wind – yuks!!!!!

  41. Petey October 23, 2011 10:23 am

    Any word on Aaron Brown’s injury?

  42. cocobean October 23, 2011 10:27 am

    Flat, flat, flat. I’m talking about the in house crowd more so than how the team played. When a team scores 45 pts. you’d think the house would be rockin’ but not so. Seems most people were expecting more.

    Rhythm. The O is still adjusting to life without playmakers. It’s easier to have rhythm when you have receivers that make the six yd catch and turn it into a first down with YAC. This year six yd compeletions are just that six yds, next down. It’s easier to have rhythm when you have big, fast slots catching that 10-15 yd passes over the middle then the next down hand it off to a 230lb RB that could outrun safeties.

    This years O is still a work in progress. Injuries to the O line and receivers have really set the O back. The way things are going it seems Rolo is going to put in more spread option type plays. Run some, play action some and run Mo some. Not saying we’ll morph into the spread option just saying I think Rolo will use some elements of it.

  43. A-House October 23, 2011 10:28 am

    with the “hurry-up offense” working well, wonder why Rolo decided to go back to the “waste the play clock” mode?

    IMHO, it gives the defense time to rest and better adjust to what they anticipate UH’s next play – several times last night, UH defense was caught off-guard when NMSU went to a very fast no huddle – Hawaii did that once and almost caught NMSU flat-footed, but Moniz went to the watse da play clock mode and the D was able to get settled before UH snapped the ball – why wait? do a qucik count and run your play – if the other side is napping, tough tooties! is this all part of strategy?

    I was happy to see the WR pass for a TD – why? – it showed how “conservative” UH is in offensive play calling – will Rolo make changes? – I doubt it very much.

    A win is a win, but for me it’s the “journey”, just like in life, that has greater meaning.

  44. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 10:32 am

    “A win is a win, but for me it’s the “journey”, just like in life, that has greater meaning.”


  45. A-House October 23, 2011 10:35 am

    someone mentioned on the radio last night that it’s tough for the Oline to continuously block and hold the Dline for the entire game – maybe so – if that’s the case why not practice against a “live” Dline all time? can use the 2nd or 3rd string guys which will give them valuable experience against the 1st team – sumo time at UH! – heck we got 2 Yokouznas and 1 Ozeki to teach the O and D lines.

  46. d1shima October 23, 2011 10:37 am


  47. d1shima October 23, 2011 10:44 am

    Hawaii’s next basho is in 6 days

  48. Kekoa October 23, 2011 10:45 am

    *Much Mahalo to our hard working Grill Team!*

    The quality mixed menu of local grinds is always outstanding at our Tgate. Gratz to everybody for providing supah stuff. (note to Rob25: Pig’s head is spesho. Go with it!)

    Special *tip* of the Game Helmet to the folks who donated books yesterday. They will go a long way towards helping the Outreach Children who need them most.

    Mahalo Tsai-ko’s!

  49. d1shima October 23, 2011 10:45 am

    2 of those are used for dulling the pain from bumps and bruises from last night (and before)

  50. d1shima October 23, 2011 10:46 am

    1 is for gameplan…1 is for travel…1 is for walk-thru

  51. d1shima October 23, 2011 10:47 am

    Use the last one for get beat up by 2’s and 3’s?

  52. slenzi October 23, 2011 10:52 am

    Ugly yes, but beautiful in enough places for the coaches to continue building. This defense is special, but needs a little more time, needs to stay healthy, and be 100% there for the bowl game – yes, I am saying bowl bound already. The only way out is up, and the players know it. If they are not bowl bound, no one to blame but the guy in the mirror.

  53. Bowwar October 23, 2011 10:58 am

    Ultimate Bummers: I had a 3 hour flight delay (no explanation) in SF after traveling from Newark hoping to get home in time to attend the Warrior football game…As a result, I missed attending the game, but my GREAT neighbors invited me over to watch the pay-per-view. United Airlines just went on my “doo-doo” list.

    At least the Warriors won…Go Warriors!

  54. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 10:59 am

    “If everyone wants to focus on PAT and field goals, I got the remedy for that, we’ll just go for two.”

    How wonderful…

  55. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 11:02 am

    We gotta win 3 more to get to the H-Bowl.

    Can do, will do. Idaho, Tulane, Utah St.

    Then SMU to the H-Bowl. Now that will be a fun game.

  56. d1shima October 23, 2011 11:07 am

    10 and 3 is still possible…

  57. SteveM October 23, 2011 11:12 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Credit New Mexico for making big plays… and UH for making many more of them.

    I’m going to watch the replay closely.

    …and we got to see UHfan808, chawan_cut, and lefty perform on the field too!

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  59. LizKauai (iPad) October 23, 2011 11:14 am

    As for Coach Mack’s comments, I appreciate a coach that can speak plainly and not just in meaningless coachspeak.

    If you notice, he is usually silent about criticisms to himself… But he is quick off the line when it comes to defending his house… His players and his coaches.

    That is not kidspeak, that is fatherspeak. And I believe Coach Mack is operating from a solid foundation when it comes to that.

    Rather than criticize, how about throwing positive energy towards the Warriors?

    How about WILLING the team to success like real fans?

  60. Kekoa October 23, 2011 11:18 am

    Pomai ~ As per usual, and after careful consideration…UH 56 ~ doze otta guys 14.

  61. RedZone October 23, 2011 11:19 am

    I like that Trevor Davis is playing. If he is the future i think it is good that he is getting some playing time along with his mentor. The experience he gains now will benefit the the team next year. I would save the redshirt year as injuries do happen.

  62. RedZone October 23, 2011 11:20 am

    I like coach Mack. He just says what is on his mind. So do a lot of other people.

  63. jm2375 October 23, 2011 11:30 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Not a pretty win last night, but a WIN!

    I’ve always like Homecoming. Got to see chawan, lefty & UHfan808 (and my bff) perform from my perch high up in nosebleed heaven. 😀

    Off to see the MPI musical production and then Wahine Volleyball!

    Heal up to all the injured and ailing Warriors & Wahine & Tsaikos.

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  65. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 11:41 am

    Glad Chauncy can see ok now. Ugly stuff happens during those pileups. Pitiful that NMSU had to take such a cheap and dangerous shot.

  66. ai-eee-soos October 23, 2011 11:43 am

    Whaaat —

    J-E-T-S jets jets jets

    Jets 27; SD 21

  67. Not an Expert October 23, 2011 11:47 am

    Walk in someone shoes for a month and then criticize them. Only thing you might catch athlete’s foot.

    Coach Mac, don’t waste your energy and comments on those who criticize unless they are your family, close friends and associates, the upper brass.

    When the cameras was on C Tomey a former head coach, it appears he was not in agreement to the play calling on offense in the closing minutes especially after the fumble and even more when A. Brown got injured after that. You know he wanted them to run the ball and the clock and get the game over with.

    That is one question that I would address to C Rolo and C Mack to find out what benefits or rewards was their for them to do that on the play that Graves fumbled while it appears he was looking to pass with 1st and 10 with little over 2 to 3 minutes to play.

  68. Derek October 23, 2011 11:51 am

    When we limit the turnovers we have a good chance to win. We had 1 fumble on a sack by David Graves. No interceptions. That’s good. The recipe is to not beat outselves. Going to Idaho is not a slam dunk. We already have proven that we can’t win on the road, even against 2 teams we shouold beat. It seems that bad things happen to us on the road, just like the 2008 and 2009 seasons. I thought Moniz wasn’t sharp with his passes early on, but he scrambled well. But, he didn’t turn the ball over unlike at San Jose St. Also, I was happy that we didn’t commit a lot of stupid penalties. The play that turned the game in our favor was the blocked punt and return for the TD. That gave us the cushion that helped the team to ward off NMSU and keep them at arms length. There are still a lot of questions.

    On going for 2 points I would have run an option or a QB read option with the QB having the option to run OR throw. This puts the defense more on their heels and the advantage is the QB to see what the defense does. I didn’t seem try any of this. You would think that they would practice 2 pt conversions in practice, but then again I’m not sure. As for the pulled extra point hitting the goal post that just poor focus and execution by the kicker. I still notice that the UH kicks are all low. On extra points you don’t need distance. You only need direction and height. I’m still frustrated.

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  70. HawaiiMongoose October 23, 2011 12:13 pm

    What’s pretty obvious after watching the run and shoot offense for over a decade is that it’s a feast or famine offense. And for it to be a feast, the O-line has to be solid and the QB and receivers all have to be on the same page. This year the O-line has done their job, but the combination of inexperience and injuries and illness among the receivers has prevented Mo from developing a consistent rhythm with them. As long as there’s a seven or eight receiver merry-go-round the offense will struggle.

  71. Uh fan October 23, 2011 12:25 pm

    Really hoping this is Mack’s last year

  72. Pomai October 23, 2011 12:36 pm

    As of today these are the results of our first TSAIKOS CIRCLE OF HONOR votes:

    Poll will be open for 3 more days then the next sports up will be base ball:

    Don’t forget well pick the top three to be inducted.

    Colt Brennan – 05 to 07 Quarterback    –    11

    Thomas Kaulukukui – 35 Halfback    –    8

    Jason Elam – 89 to 92 Kicker    –    5

    Al Noga – 84 to 87 Defensive End    –    5

    Jason Rivers -03 to 07 Wide Receiver    –    4

    Gary Allen – 78 to 81 Running Back    –    4

    Timmy Chang – 00 to 04 Quarterback    –    4

    Chad Owens – 81 to 84 Wide Receiver    –    4

    Garret Gabriel – 87 to 90 Quarterback    –    3

    Jesse Sapolu – 79 to 82 Offensive Guard    –    3

    Jim Kalili – 67 tp 71 Offensive Guard    –    2

    Michael Carter – 90 to 93 Quarterback    –    2

    Keith Ah Yuen – 78 to 81 Offensive Guard    –    2

    Levi Stanley – 69 to 73 Defensive Tackle    –    2

    Blaine Gaison – 76 to 80 Defensiveback    –    2

    Davonne Bess – 05 to 07 Slot Receiver    –    2

    Jeris White – 70 to 73 Defensive Back    –    1

    David Toloumu – 80 to 81 Running Back    –    1

    Jim Donovan – 81 to 82 Offensive Tackle    –    1

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  74. ai-eee-soos October 23, 2011 12:41 pm


    Thomas Kaulukukui – 35 Halfback for “TSAIKOS CIRCLE OF HONOR”.

  75. Pomai October 23, 2011 12:59 pm

    ai-eee-soos you need to go here an cast your vote

  76. A-House October 23, 2011 1:05 pm

    wes’ side:

    looks likethe heavy rain will be from Kaneohe to North Shore.

    we hit the down pour at the entrance to Pali Golf Course, into Haiku Valley and over to Moanalua Valley.

    very dry on the way home – full, content, sleepy and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz!

  77. Garret October 23, 2011 1:13 pm

    Give freshman Trevor Davis credit. First, he relinquishes his redshirt status by playing in the Warriors’ seventh game. Second, after practicing the past two months at right wideout, he plays left wideout in place of ailing Bright and Sampson. He admitted he had to make an adjustment to that side, and fight off butterflies and game-fast defenders, but he played well.

    I echo ST and think that Trevor Davis deserves a LOT of praise. He went in as a true freshman and played well, and immediately showed that he is a playmaker. Given all of the injuries the Warriors have, we should all be happy that Davis has been able to learn enough to contribute right away. We should also be excited at the thought of what Davis can do in the 3 years he’ll play after this!

  78. Willie October 23, 2011 1:15 pm

    Missed the game due to a delayed flight from California. Just finished the 1st half. Iosefa is a beast, Moniz looks like a fleet footed Mercury running and Sapolu got his father’s eyes.

    On the kicking front, Chun just not have the leg strength and all 3 kicks were low. He does not drive the ball and finish strong on his front foot at the end. As a contrast watch the NMSU kicker, drives well and his ball ends up on the top half of the net.

    Hadden’s miss on the 4th PAT looked like poor techinque & mechanics. He came around his body as plant foot faced left and his kicking foot had a right draw, resulting in a low pull hook. On the field goal try, the ball went where he was aiming his plant foot, wide right.

  79. Garret October 23, 2011 1:15 pm

    New Sagarin is out. I think I mentioned last week that UH could go down in the rankings even with wins due to the weakness of the WAC…that might have happened this week. Here are the rankings for the WAC:

    40 Nevada

    89 SJSU

    101 UH

    105 La Tech

    106 Fresno State

    140 NMSU

    150 Utah State

    174 Idaho

  80. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 1:16 pm

    Watching the game on TV with commentary is cool. Almost as good as Aloha Stadium.

  81. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 1:18 pm

    Kudos to Trevor Davis. Warrior!

  82. Garret October 23, 2011 1:20 pm

    Here are some of the Warriors’ other opponents in the Sagarin rankings. I think that overall this is BY FAR the lowest UH’s opponents have rated in the computer rankings for decades. The lowest ranked teams in the Great West, C-USA, Pac-12, and the second lowest in the MWC is an interesting combination…and will drive down UH’s SOS to the point where wins will make UH drop in the rankings:

    29 Washington

    55 BYU

    137 Colorado (lowest of the 12 Pac-12 teams)

    152 UNLV (only New Mexico is lower than then in the MWC conference)

    170 Tulane (lowest of the 12 teams in C-USA)

    172 UC-Davis (last place in the D-IAA Great West Conference)

  83. WarriorNY October 23, 2011 1:23 pm

    Anyone know if Brandon Lloyd took some snaps away from Greg Salas in today’s game? I saw Salas had two catches but was only targeted twice.

  84. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 1:24 pm

    Coach Mack post game press conference video has been taken down by UH Athletics site.

  85. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 1:28 pm

    Mack is such a joke. After all these years he has coaches, he should understand fans are gonna get upset when the same mistakes get repeated over and over.

    A win is a win, but our program is clearly going in the wrong direction as far as competing as a high level. We are barely hanging out to beat the nations weakest opponents.

  86. Wes'side Warrior October 23, 2011 1:40 pm

    The negativity here lately, even after a win, is sickening.

    LizK… Thank you for your #59 (or whatever it will be after the spam is used to make some musubi).

    Go, Warriors (players and coaches)! Nevermind the so-called fans who are screaming obscenities and whatever else your way. Continue to play your best, and never give up. Keep representing to the best of your abilities! Heal up and move on! And no forget the “student” part… take care of your studies! We want to see 100% available for our Bowl Game!

  87. RedZone October 23, 2011 1:45 pm

    Man they should have let Nolan Ryan pitch and George Bush catch. See if Bush can catch the heater.

  88. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 1:51 pm

    In hard times, more than good, people live vicariously through the actions of others.

    Coach Mack constantly reminds us that players and coaches and all of us are first and foremost human beings. And human beings are spiritual beings not helmet fodder or gladiator short fodder.

  89. wafan October 23, 2011 1:52 pm

    WW . . .

    Maybe they think that is what it means to be big-time.

  90. Ralph October 23, 2011 1:53 pm

    and to think Donovan focuses on UH football schedule with an eye on who we can beat to earn at least 7 wins in a 13 game season. Look no further than the Sagarin ratings, keep scheduling those teams already in the 170 range like UC Davis.

    Next year, we got to brand new football programs to beat up on, South Alabama and Lamar. Mack needs to come thru next year and find ways to win 5 of 11 games to be bound eligible.

    Next year, MWC, no gimmies, UNLV is a bottom feeder and we all know what happened in Vegas. New Mexico is an o-fer, an opportunity for a win here. But that’s it and its Mac’s last year on his contract.

  91. WarriorNY October 23, 2011 2:00 pm

    Give Coach Mack a break. The problem is that this team had such lofty expectations after last season. When we don’t duplicate the same kind of season, people are calling for his head. We will continue to get better as this season continues.

  92. IMUA HAWAII October 23, 2011 2:09 pm

    I echo #43. COACH ROLO, just keep on! The “hurry up O” needs to be a regular feature, strategically implemented – don’t need to use it the whole half, but it must be there. Attrition is a 12th, 13th, 14th man. And it can help our young O line give Mo an extra second perhaps.?

  93. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:10 pm

    With Idaho (Sagarin 174) and Utah State (Sagarin 150) next up on our schedule we should do fine, we’ll we be better, don’t know, but we should get the W.

  94. zelda skyward swords October 23, 2011 2:12 pm

    I’ve read some good stuff here. Definitely worth bookmarking for revisiting. I wonder how much effort you put to make such a great informative web site.

  95. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:29 pm

    33,671 tickets issued for last night’s homecoming, I wonder what the turnstile count for paid attendance was last evening, or how many of the tickets issued were paid for after deleting the free comp tickets. Money talks, and UH definitely needs the infusion of money with a higher paid attendance.

    PPV should be a bonus to a full house, additional revenue to the football program, since we are without revenues from parking and concessions.

  96. 99club October 23, 2011 2:37 pm

    The experts in the desert must have read Coach McMackin’s comments about going for 2. UH is favored by 8 over Idaho.


    Respectfully disagree with #90. Boise St. will be the toughest test if they stay. All the others will be wins. I hope we sign Coach McMackin now at the ‘early-bird’ rate rather than later.

  97. Shoko October 23, 2011 2:40 pm

    Whoah, what happened to da Raiders? Getting Carson Palmer a wrong move?

  98. funny October 23, 2011 2:44 pm

    “If everyone wants to focus on PAT and field goals, I got the remedy for that, we’ll just go for two. If people want to write about that, I’ll be responsible for the PAT and Dick (Tomey, UH’s special teams coach) can handle the rest of it. I don’t like people attacking our coaches when they’re working their ass off. I’m really upset with it.”

    Wow! Mack is sounding a little bit too defensive. It’s a good thing that he coaches where expectations regarding performance are so low and beat writers and media are more concerned about having a cordial relationship with the HC rather than looking at poor performance with a critical eye. Anywhere else, he’d be facing greater scrutiny and he would be called out for his childish rant.

    Mack, YOUR team left four XPs off of the scoreboard. That’s on you. don’t blame the fans’ criticism of your staff for your decision to go for two when it really comes down to the failure of your staff. What kind of professional reacts to criticism by stating that he’s now making decisions because he got his little feelings hurt?

    Why did UH pull the video of Mack’s postgame presser? Was it really that embarrassing? If so, JD really needs to start looking at a new HC for 2013.

    It’s a good thing that the remaining schedule is so weak because against better teams the failure to convert PATs would cost them severely.

  99. 99club October 23, 2011 2:45 pm


    Good night.

  100. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 2:46 pm

    I’m watching ESPN right now and Craig James says he voted Boise State #10. He said he’ll never vote Boise State ahead of the other major teams with 1 loss. I guess he remembers when he was just a squirt in his father’s nuts that Penn State got no respect in the late 60s and early 70s even though they were unbeaten or had only 1 loss until they were given the chance to play a West or Midwest team in a bowl game and beat them. So now they will do whatever it takes not to give Boise or Houston or whoever the chance to do that. Witness the last year BSU-TCU game. Even though there was a winner, there was no chance that either one would be a national champion. Didn’t Craig James play in the WAC at SMU although he and Eric Dickerson deny they got paid there? SMU got the death penalty after they left, because the other players got busted. Why is he so bitter about the mid major teams? Again I am NOT a Boise State lover but I like to root for the success of the under dog.

  101. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:49 pm

    Na Wahine soccer tied for second in the WAC with San Jose State and Fresno State at 3-1-1, Utah State in first with a 4-1 record.

    Both FSU and SJST must play Utah State, a team UH loss to 2-1 in 2OT. Nevada is the other common opponent.

    UH on the road against La Tech and New Mexico State.

  102. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:54 pm

    Boiler threw 3 picks in the first half, one returned for a TD. Raiders were down 21-0 in the 3rd qtr when Boiler threw 3 consecutive incompletions before being replaced by Palmer. Palmer himself did not impress, 3 picks, one returned for a TD, 24-0 final.

  103. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:56 pm

    Raiders take a shot to the bow, but still afloat, time to reload an engage the enemy. Just win, Baby.

  104. 99club October 23, 2011 2:56 pm

    papajoe2 #100-

    …and if anyone watches the ESPN series 30 for 30 on the ‘Pony Express’ they will see that Craig James is a lying S.O.B. He has no integrity whatsoever.

  105. Ralph October 23, 2011 2:58 pm

    99club you are a light sleeper, up so soon. LOL

  106. A-joe October 23, 2011 3:01 pm

    Forget the Sagarin polls. Yesterday, I saw REAL numbers that pose immediate concerns for UH as a whole. It’s trickle down effect will impact the athletic program.

    W-Doc showed me figures of what the UH system has collected in grants and donations over the past two years. Total collected during the fiscal period ending in 2010 was $73 million. In 2011 it was $46 million. A 37% decrease.

    Two things to expect:

    -Programs and positions will be eliminated.

    -Funding will be reallocated from one program to another.

    The difference in losses will be made up from somewhere, somehow.

    Don’t expect for ANY favors, pity or support from upper campus. They just got kicked in the nutz, Royally!

  107. Derek October 23, 2011 3:05 pm

    If we think this year is a struggle, can you imagine the future years. When we’re in the Mountain West, we can lose every game. Boise St., San Diego St., Air Force, Nevada, Fresno St., Colorado, Wyoming, UNLV, New Mexico. All of these teams have beaten us at least twice for more in the past. We also have BYU and USC, both on the road. I haven’t seen when the BYU game will be rescheduled. The way we are playing, playing the schedule next year, we will be hard pressed to win 7 games to be bowl eligible. This football team is not fundamentally sound. We do some things well, but not consistently. We have given up big plays to NMSU, SJSU, UNLV, and UW. At UNLV we let the running back run for 80 yards for a TD on a simple run to the left side. His name was either Randle or Cornett. In UW we gave up a ton of plays over 20 yards. It was like a dam burst and the water was gushing out. Last night, after we scored we let NMSU score in just 2 plays. They also threw a halfback pass to the WR who was so wide open that we couldn’t see any Hawaii player on the TV screen. Against SJSU, well you saw it. We couldn’t stop them.

    Going on any road trip is difficult. Add to that, going on the road in high altitude is even tougher based on past history. You have to be a very good team with lots of good depth to overcome those kinds of obstacles. I’m convince we cannot throw 70% of the time in this run and shoot. If we don’t have a “holy grail” QB who is so great with accuracy, release, leadership, and decision-making then we can’t consistenly win. We need to run the ball and some at least some good balance. A 60 to 40 percent ratio should be good enough depending on the circumstances. UH should really consider going from a pure run and shoot offense to more of a spread offense. You need to “spread” the load. I still think it is a valuable thing to get two TEs for both additional blocking or at least short yardage passing situations. Sometimes we need a bigger body to do both. Heck, if a tackle or guard can play TE then move em to that spot or a big linebacker or DE. Come to think of it, can Brendan Daley play some TE. He’s a 6’3″ or 6’4″ 250 lbs linebacker who can run. What about somebody like him???? It’s worth a shot. Another person who comes to mind is Desmond Dean, who is about 6’5″ to 6’6″ and he’s about 230-245 lbs. Boise St. and the SF 49ers were talked about having key “personnel groups” for certain plays. I don’t see us doing that kind of innovative stuff. I really feel that there needs to be a clear vision of what works in a very wide open era of all levels of football. Boise St. is the best example. They run plays are so very imaginative, they do lots of deception, fakes, motion, reverses, run on 4th from punt formation, ball handling, and no mistake they also run power rushing the ball. They keep churning great running backs, from Brock Forsey, Ian Johnson, and now Doug Martin. They are all spread out so you are talking about 12 years of great running backs. That’s why they win so much, year after year. Kellen Moore is a 4 year starter, Zabransky was a 3 year starter, Bart Hendricks was a 3 or 4 year starter, and my favorite was this guy who was just before Zabransky who’s name escape’s. I think his name starts with an “S” but, I’ll look it up. Boise St. just seems to have a staple of football players year after year to keep this thing going as long as Peterson is there. That, is great recruiting and great scheming. I’ll look it up now. It’s bugging me.

  108. 99club October 23, 2011 3:05 pm

    Houston’s Case Keenum passed (not intended…honest) Timmy Chang’s NCAA career total offense record and now has 16,910 yards and counting. How’s that doctoral thesis coming along, Case?

  109. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 3:05 pm

    30-30 on now about how Miami University rallied to become a football power. All the top high school players in the area called each other and said they would be going there to join in and make the city proud.

  110. 99club October 23, 2011 3:07 pm

    Ralph, #105…you got me. Forgot I had another beer in the fridge. 🙂

  111. 99club October 23, 2011 3:09 pm

    Is it Guinesses or Guinnaeii?

  112. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 3:09 pm

    Post Game press conference back on with some RE-editing.

    The statement about the PAT remedy was taken out.

  113. wafan October 23, 2011 3:10 pm

    Haleakala . . .

    My contact responded to son’s request. Would you please check with him — contact reports son has not responded. Person who responded to son is named Doug.


  114. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 3:18 pm

    #108,99club, yup Timmy’s record is pau. Notice how little they talk about it on ESPN? That’s a huge record to have but not too much on national tv. Because ESPN does not have Houston on contract, so it doen’t want to advertise them. I’m thinking that ESPN is the evil leader in all this mess with the BCS, rankings, conference realignment, etc..

  115. Derek October 23, 2011 3:18 pm

    Sorry, brain lock for a moment. The guy I was thinking about is Ryan Dinwiddie. He definitely is not an “S”, but the “S” could mean Superman!!!! He was terrific and lead the country in passing efficiency. Another very good QB at Boise St. who was not as heralded was Taylor Tharp. He was basicallly a 1 year starter after Jared Zabransky and before Kellen Moore. Tharp has the dubious distinction of being the Boise St. QB who lost to Hawaii at Aloha Stadium when Colt Brennan and June Jones beat them to win the WAC title with an unbeaten record and we went to the Sugar Bowl. Maybe that’s why Tharp not mentioned too often if at all. In any other years, Boise St. were WAC champions, except for 2007 and maybe their first year in the WAC conference.

  116. Ralph October 23, 2011 3:25 pm


  117. Ralph October 23, 2011 3:36 pm

    A Joe to bring in more grants and donations the UH needs to up their academic standings as perceived by their peers. Top level profs will garner bigger bucks for research, but it won’t happen at UH without the state spending money to facilitate renovations, repairs and building new infrastructure to attract and keep the top researchers and professors who publish their works.

    And a winning football program and/or basketball program (think Big East) will also energize their base, the alumni and corporate sponsors, to dole out more money when we are winning. Just win, baby, but also got to be winning on a consistent basis. One year wonder won’t carry the load, may raise an eyebrow, but the pocket books stays closed under more consistency arrive at the Manoa campus.

  118. 99club October 23, 2011 3:39 pm


    I’m in total agreement with #114. It’s unreal that the ones to blame for not having a playoff system in the FBS are owned by these guys:

  119. rainbowfan October 23, 2011 3:47 pm

    Hat’s off to special teams, if they didn’t block that punt for a TD, the final score would have been only 38 – 34.

    Also praise for New Mexico State quarterback Christian who was playing with only his right arm, his other arm being in a sling.

  120. funny October 23, 2011 3:51 pm

    Mack doesn’t even remember his kicker’s name. In his presser he kept referring to him as “our little guy” until he finally could come up with Chun’s name. C’mon Mack, really?

  121. Derek October 23, 2011 3:57 pm

    Did you see the Bottom 10 on New Mexico is the #1 worst football team in the country. I would agree. Memphis is close 2nd and UAB was at #3 but both won yesterday against Tulane and UCF respectively. They will move down. UNLV is #8 which is not a good sign for Hawaii. #6 was Georgia Tech for losing to Virginia for the 9th time in the last 10 years. Hard to figure but someone has somebody’s number. Hawaii is on the “waiting list” with other teams under “Hawaii Turnovers”. You can check it out yourself. It’s pretty funny.

    When I think about turnovers I think about “Apple” turnovers. Maybe too many turnovers because of what Dick Tomey said many moon’s ago on a commercial he did locally something about comparing “Apples” and Oranges. Maybe something rubbed off!!!!!! That’s okay. We’ll just try to keep it close to have a chance to win it in the 4th quarter. Quote: “We didn’t do it at San Jose St.” I blame the coaches.

  122. Derek October 23, 2011 4:04 pm

    Punahou placekicker, Kaimi Fairbairn, has received a scholarship from UCLA and he is very interested in them. He is also being recruited and has medium interest in Utah, San Diego St, and California. Where’s Hawaii? Hey, Coach Mack, Head Coach and coach Dick Tomey, Special teams Coach. “HELLO”!!!!! Give em a scholarship now. I don’t think grades or SAT would be a problem.

  123. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 4:24 pm

    The other game it was the guy with one leg that gave us trouble.

    This game it was the guy with one arm.

    Chuckle worthy (not the injuries though).

  124. kalani October 23, 2011 4:28 pm

    #112 Obviously UH or someone else thought coach’s comments were inappropriate or embarrassing to UH. Is Coach Mack starting to run out of strikes with his boss?

  125. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 4:40 pm


    Lofty expectations??? Are you serious?

    When we play a cupcake schedule that involves UC Davis, UNLV, San Jose St, NMSU, Utah St, Tulane, and Idaho, you bet people in Hawaii expect to win 10 games.

    Nevada, UDUB, Colorado, and Fresno are considered the tough games on our schedule???

    Funny thing is how every WAC team besides Hawaii and San Jose St are breaing in brand new QBs this year and we have the Heisman candidate yet we are competing at the same level as the bottom feeders.

  126. wowlualua October 23, 2011 4:47 pm

    #125, yes and did the other teams only have two returning starters on offense? Sometimes I think people lose their common sense when they post…..

  127. wowlualua October 23, 2011 4:48 pm

    also notoice how the sock puppets come out when people what to )(*)(*)(*)(&(*&(*&?

  128. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 4:49 pm

    2007 sugar bowl replay on NBC right now

  129. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 5:01 pm


    so whats your excuse next year when we lose our defensive starters?

    Parades, Torres, Meatoga, Tuipulotu, Satele, Masch, Brown, Tank.

    And you do realize our starting O linemen Laurel, Leonard, Lefiti, Sapolu, Faaumu are seniors. So who’s fault is it that they didn’t come into this season ready to play after 5 years? COACHING.

    Yes we lost Salas, Pilares, and Green but the players MACK recruited as the successors need to do a better job on offense. If our offense can’t click even close to last year it just shows that Moniz numbers were only inflated by Salas and Pilares ability to take short passes and turn them into huge gains.

    How do you explain a injury to Miah to realize Clapp is our best slot? Or to realize 7 games into the year that Trevor Davis is better than Darius Bright so shoulda started him earlier if you are gonna burn his redshirt.

    How in the world did we offer Tyler Hadden a scholarship with no knowledge of how weak his leg is and inaccurate he is on field goals. He must be bad if Chun is kicking PATs.

  130. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 5:05 pm

    Go Wahine!

  131. funny October 23, 2011 5:05 pm

    Also in his presser, Mack said that Davis is probably their 2nd best wideout. If that is the case then why even consider red-shirting him? He should have been getting game reps all along.

  132. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:06 pm

    Colts fans can’t be real happy.

  133. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:07 pm

    Yep, next year for the Warriors will be a rebuilding season.

  134. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 5:15 pm



    you don’t redshirt your best players. That comment just makes him look bad. Bright has STONE HANDS

  135. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 5:17 pm

    I am grateful that we have a football program. I would like to see it continue and appreciate the efforts made to that end.

    I do my part by supporting the team as a fan. If I see something that I think the coaches should know about – I email them. I don’t gossip or backbite about it. And I try not to say anything publicly that would be shameful or hurt the feelings of the players or their families.

  136. SAWARRIOR October 23, 2011 5:25 pm


  137. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:28 pm

    LVSC opened their line between Idaho-Hawaii game at +11 for the Warriors.. Sportsbooks are going with 8-8.5. We’ll see how the line shifts during the week.

  138. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:30 pm

    Oops, let me restate the spread. Hawaii favored by 11 according to LVSC and sportsbook going with 8-8.5 for the Warriors.

  139. funny October 23, 2011 5:31 pm

    Bettors must be seeing the Warriors difficulty on the road coupled with their inability to convert a simple PAT and are jumping on the Vandals plus the points.

  140. funny October 23, 2011 5:32 pm

    138, oh ok, gotcha

  141. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:35 pm

    True that. Road games for the Warriors hasn’t given the sportsbook much confidence.

  142. funny October 23, 2011 5:39 pm

    Considering the injuries, I can see the spread evening out at Hawaii -7.5

  143. slenzi October 23, 2011 5:43 pm

    LizKauai #135. Good on you girl! That’s the way I was raised too.

    poppajoe2: its OK to admire what Boise has accomplished. Anyone who cannot bring themselves to admire sustained superior performance in “a game played by 20-year olds with a ball that doesn’t bounce straight” [Bobby Curran quote] is too intense for me to understand. I will root for BSU in a BCS Bowl. Remember them being quite eloquent in recognizing support from our fans while playing in the Hawaii Bowl when UH went Sugar.

  144. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:43 pm


    Could be. Bettors are not are not having much confidence either which is why the lines have been moving in favor of Idaho.

  145. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:48 pm

    If interested in following the line shifts, check here…

  146. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 5:48 pm

    Since when did this list become home to such whiny biotches?

  147. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 5:55 pm

    Some of you guys are so smart, I don’t know why you are wasting your knowledge here. Go run an NFL team and make your millions.

    Of course you were probably the same guys that said Torres and Clapp were wasted scholarships and only given a shot because of their dads.

    And I suppose you KNEW Davis was going to develop this quickly so you would have penciled him in as starter as a true frosh.

    Seriously, with such genius you should be NFL execs.

  148. Shoko October 23, 2011 5:58 pm

    I couldn’t coach myself out of a paper bag. 😉

  149. KapoleiWarrior October 23, 2011 6:02 pm

    I agree with you Liz. I’m all about accentuating the positive. This is not the place to be putting our student athletes down. They are all doing their best to represent US. And this is a family blog. I would feel awful if young Mr. Bright’s or Hadden’s parents are reading this. I think Jeezy’s and funny’s negative comments and others like them would be much better received at places like the WSN site where there are many others of the same ilk.

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  151. funny October 23, 2011 6:15 pm

    I would never have imagined that fans on a blog who place “Warrior” in their handles would be oh so sensitive. Never the less, reading is fundamental so please go back and re-read my statements where I place the blame on Mack’s shoulders and avoid being critical of the players. I do find it funny that I have seen posts from long time members of the WB who have criticized the performance of players yet they were not called out. Perhaps because you’ve T-gated and karaoked together you fail to get on them.

    When the proprietor of this blog makes it clear that criticism of the coaches is off-limits then I will refrain. Until then, if you do not like what I have to type then either avoid reading my posts or find another blog that is more friendly to your overly sensitive nature.

  152. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:23 pm

    Also funny how people on this board are so sensitive. Its a blog. Everyone is free to express their opinions whether its frustrations or praises.

    WarriorMojo reminds me of Mack. ” If you don’t like it, go find your own team.” Only come back he can come with.

    The problem here is Mack is the one getting paid over a Million and as a coach, he can’t even fix obvious problems or doesn’t even know what personnel.

    So the solution to any fan who has nothing nice to say is go find your own team. Very realistic. Thanks for the advice Mojo

  153. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:25 pm


    You must never watch sports center, PTI, Rome is burning, or around the horn. Because all those guys do is bash players and it must piss you off too much to hear any of the criticism.

    You must hate any NFL team that has fans saying Suck for Luck and probably hate the Bronco fans for chanting TEBOW all season.

  154. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 6:26 pm

    Are you talking to me?

    Is he talking to me?

    Nah, I just always remember that scene.

    Anyway, you must have a guilty conscience since I never mentioned any poster by name. I guess you think the shoe fits?

  155. KapoleiWarrior October 23, 2011 6:26 pm

    I wouldn’t say that I’m overly sensitive but I will say that I’ve got Coach Mack’s back. He’s the No. 1 Warrior and I support him all the way. I lobbied for his hiring after JJ left us hanging and I still support him and the team today. I think if people actually got to know the guy they wouldn’t be so critical. But as Mr. Funny alludes to….it is a free country and I am free to support Coach Mack and the Warriors.

  156. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 6:29 pm

    Oh, look caught another one.

    Really, who’s being sensitive? I disagree with some of the posts recently. Don’t I have a right to disagree? You don’t like my posts, don’t read ’em.

    “funny” and “jeezy”, LOL.

  157. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 6:33 pm

    I have concerns regarding a few things, no question.

    But I salute Mack for recruiting players who are solid citizens and solid students. The improvement in academic progress, the reduction in personal foul penalties, the elimination of thuggish behavior, the OBVIOUS improvement in team unity. You guys think those things don’t matter? Crazy.

  158. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:34 pm

    Yeah im talking to you. Calling posters on this boards whiners and giving great advice to go get their own teams.

    how about you find the fans openings for these jobs genius.

  159. Shoko October 23, 2011 6:36 pm

    As ST would say, “play nice”. WarriorMojo has been a frequent blogger on this site. His comment wasn’t directed at any specific post. I appreciated both Jeezy and Funny’s comments, too. After all, this is a blog that invites open dialogue. As Rodney King would say, “Can’t we all get along?” 🙂

  160. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:37 pm

    Well competitive sports is a little more than recruits solid citizen and solid students. It’s not the recruiting problems that our team is lacking. We have better talent and personnel than every team we played so far this season besides Washington. More due to lack of preparation and making adjustments.

    Yeah maybe coach mack works his arses off as he says, but if your not working on the correct things, same mistakes will continue to follow.

  161. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:38 pm

    159. Youre right, shouldnt have directed my comment towards mojo

  162. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 6:39 pm

    Steve must be back. I bet we still will be reading about the same comments come Friday.

  163. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 6:47 pm

    My objective here isn’t to prove a poster right or wrong. It is simply to express my frustrations/ thoughts to what I keep hearing Mack say on air.

    1. Constantly makes excuses of Money. Coaching Salaries and all that. Yes it would be nice to have more money, but he knew the budget before he signed his contract and he is full aware of what expectations are here after June Jones left.

    2. Directing his frustrations at fans, media, etc about continuous mental errors. Fans will say whatever they want and that occurs with every single sports team in America. I’m sure their are UNLV fans wanting their coach to get fired already too. It happens. No need to go public complaining about it when the fans are the ones who come out to watch the games and support the program. You don’t win the fans over by complaining about them on air.

    3. I keep hearing how by the 4th year, all HIS RECRUITS would be the veterans and should be our best season. This is the year where we have solid veterans at key positions and anything short of 6-1 at this point is quite disappointing. I expected our tough game to be at La Tech, not UNLV and San Jose St.

    Conclusion. If MACK wants this extension bad, there needs to be results and he has to prove he can be the leader to run this program. I just don’t see it. Not claiming I can coach a D1 football team but I can see that we are in need of a younger, more ambitious, up and coming coach. By ambitious I mean someone who isn’t satisfied with just going to the Hawaii bowl whether we win 7 games or more. I wanna see a coach who believes he can put together a team that can go undefeated. Not saying we will, but you want the culture around you to believe and strive for it.

  164. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 6:53 pm

    Well, the blog host will just have to repost the rules. Yes, it is a family blog and personal attacks are verboten.

  165. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 6:55 pm

    If someone has suggestions for

    coach Mack, don’t post them here. He doesn’t read the blog. Send him an email.

  166. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 6:56 pm

    Watching K-5 Wahine soccer with Natasha Kai on Hawaii’s Greatest Games. I can’t see any tatoos on She scored 7 seconds into the game.

  167. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 7:02 pm


    I agree with everything your saying. Ive said it time and time again on this blog. Mack and all his excuses, his ridiculous decisions, how overpaid he is, etc. but all I get is “youre not a true fan” or “why don’t you coach then.”. But you no what? It’s the truth. All those who oppose are fans living in some unknown fantasy world. They seriously need to wake up and smell the roses. Why bash us?? We have the right to critique as we ARE fans and only wants what’s best for the Warriors. We don’t want goals to always “Hawaii Bowl, Hawaii Bowl.”. Why not look further. Why settle for less?

  168. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 7:02 pm



    I actually think he does. But if he doesn’t, someone sure as heck briefs him on it because he knows quite a bit about the goings on of this blog.

  169. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 7:03 pm

    LizKauai (#165)

    Been there, done that! No reply.

  170. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 7:08 pm

    If you support Coach Mack 110% that’s great. If you want him fired, that’s great too.

    We can all agree to disagree but lets all play nice.

  171. tommui October 23, 2011 7:09 pm

    MATTYBOY: Have you sent in your donation to Stephen yet?

  172. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 7:13 pm


    I think ST said not to send in checks to him.

  173. el burro sabio October 23, 2011 7:16 pm


    #168, no sense. There are many complaints but not many useful suggestions.

  174. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 7:20 pm

    Just to clarify, this isn’t my blog and I don’t set the rules regarding what is and is not okay. Also, even if it WERE my blog, I don’t know that I would necessarily prohibit anyone’s posts. I don’t have a problem with the people who post here even if I disagree with what is being said.

    It just seems to me that the overall tenor of posts here has turned overwhelmingly negative. Like I said, I have concerns about certain issues as well, but I am and always will be a UH fan. I started before Mack and will continue after Mack. Mack is just the current caretaker of the team. There were others before him and there will be others afterwards. That being the case, let’s acknowledge and recognize the positive — of which there is much — rather than just dwelling on negatives, which ultimately will hurt the team even after Mack is gone.

    All I was trying to do is restore some perspective. Last week’s complaints were somewhat understandable since we lost the game. But realize that in all that complaining, very little recognition was expressed to the GREAT games that Torres, Hardy-Tuliau, Iosefa, Pollard, Stutzmann, etc. had. Torres and JHT had AMAZING games, career-type games, but all overshadowed to most people by the loss.

    This week, though, we won that damn game. If the emphasis is on the W, why all the harping this week? In my view I thought we needed some perspective and I tried to provide it in my normal warm and sensitive way. Sorry if I offended you, Jeezy, or anyone else. Really.

  175. funny October 23, 2011 7:22 pm

    164: I’m glad to hear that but I think what you view as a personal attack is different from what others consider a personal attack. Criticism of the performance of a HC who earns a million per is not a personal attack. Perhaps you should send Mack an email to remind him of the name of his PAT kicker, the local kid who he kept referring to in his press conference as “our little guy”. Since you are so concerned about the feelings of the players and their families then perhaps you need to explain to Mack how embarrassing it could be to a player when, in front of the entire media contingent he couldn’t even think of the senior kickers name.

  176. kalani October 23, 2011 7:22 pm

    Although your posts are not very popular on this blog Jeezy… you do make some valid points. BTW, Mack’s “If you don’t like it get your own team” is not his line …it was “borrowed” from Bobby Curran. I don’t think BC expected Coach Mack to actually say it to fans,though.

  177. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 7:24 pm


    My uncle is Eddie Klaneski. He told me he would give it to uncle Dave (Dave Maeva).

  178. Derek October 23, 2011 7:25 pm

    Jeezy, as usual right on the mark. I thought Stone Hands was Roberto Duran or was it Hands of Stone. Haha! Only having some fun on this wonderful Sunday evening. It seems the last couple of years we have been rebuilding either one side of the ball whether it be offense or defense. Last year we lost most of the offensive line and also the entire secondary (Davis, Bryant, Smith, and Silva). Torres was considred a co-starter.

    We rebuild, Boise St. re-loads. What they do is that they go ahead and play even freshman and sophmores with no problem. They give them a chance. If an underclassman is just as talented as a Senior they give the underclassman a lot of reps in practice and in the games too. They don’t get somebody get tired.

    Why don’t the coaches put out an APB (All Points Bulletin) every where to say “WANTED! Kicker who can kick it out of the end zone. Call University of Hawaii Special Teams Coach asap. You have a potential scholarship to offer you. I’ve been saying for at least 2 years going that we need a kicker with a very, very, very strong leg. Cameron Mercado from Kahuku last year is better than anybody we go. He hits it high. I’ve seen many of his games. I haven’t seen Kaimi Fairbairn from Punahou but from what I hear and read I would make a home visit to his house to talk to him right now if I was one of the UH coach who is assigned to do local recruiting. I wonder if UH has done that? When you hear that Fairbairn has kicked a 67 yard field goal in San Diego you have to look into it wouldn’t you think!!!!

    Wahine had a tough tussle tonight with the Vandals. They gotta watch out at the WAC tournament again. I hope Shoji, Wong, and the ladies have learned their lesson from last year. I think the mark for this team is that they have some versatility. They have more hitters, blockers, liberos, servers, and middles to go to another player who might do better if the starters are struggling. Hartong is the X-factor as she plays left, middle, and the right. She’s also good at serving and has been improving with her passing too.

  179. MattyBoy October 23, 2011 7:25 pm

    I’m sorry let me clarify that. Yes I gave money. But not to Mr. Tsai. I gave what I could.

  180. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 7:27 pm

    Okay, call me simple, but this is how I see it: Words have power.

    Warrior players, their parents, their relatives, fans, some of their coaches, recruits, opposing players and opposing coaches all read this blog. This blog is one of the most popular blogs in the state. We get more “looks” at this blog than all other SA blogs combined.

    If we are all “fans” here, do our words here support and inspire the team of do they hurt? Sure, its important to vent frustration, we all do in our posts, but to repeatedly critcize players or coaches here, who does that help? Who does it hurt? We have a few games left to play, don’t forget.

    I feel frustrated about some aspects of our games, who doesn’t? But I think its more important to emphasize the positives too. Re-enforce good things. If you say one bad thing, find a few good ones to say too.

    Our Warriors lay it all on the line each game they play. (Think A. Brown laying on the field in pain after his injury). The Warriors are here for us. Are we here for them? If we are, remember, words have power.

    I leave you with two of my favorite words.


  181. Shoko October 23, 2011 7:30 pm

    Mr Tsai needs money? SA obiviously is underpaying their sportswriters!

    Okay, time for schleep.

  182. Derek October 23, 2011 7:32 pm

    Have you noticed? Scott Enos was pefect on extra points last year? He was also pretty deadly on field goals too. What happened? I don’t think it’s the snapper or the holder because these guys are the same guys (Ingram and Austin). It must be the blockers up front. Who were the guys up front last year and who were the guys blocking at the ends?

    I think that’s the main problem. But too, I still thnk the kicks are too low compared to Enos’.

  183. Shoko October 23, 2011 7:32 pm

    Well said, DPK.

    I would have said that but I’m a man of few wor…!

  184. Da Punchbowl Kid October 23, 2011 7:34 pm


    We are ALL truly Warrior fans here, IMHO. Have a good night my friend.

  185. Derek October 23, 2011 7:42 pm

    When I say something on this site, I am being honest. I don’t apologize for it. I believe we have to tell it like we see it. Bobby Curren is famous for saying to “trust” your eyes. Well, I see it every game, I see a lot of college and pro football because I just love football. A lot people are student of the games because they have played it. I have played it. If people don’t like it, so be it. If coaches or players can’t take the criticism they are not in the right business. It is my hope that “our” posts can help players, fans of the UH program look at it from the perspective to try to some good ideas and maybe, just maybe some might say, hey, that’s a good idea!!! It’s good to have back and forth discussion. I think we can all say confidently we are die hard UH fans who only want us to win, baby!

  186. papajoe2 October 23, 2011 7:53 pm

    Nice DPK. When I was a coach, I try to end on a positive note. If its correcting someone on something, I try to say something like I really like you effort on that play though. Keep it up or something similar. Even the last thing you do in practice, I like it to be fun so everybody looks forward to coming back tomorrow. Remember, they are not professionals, otherwise instead of Warriors, we would be called Tigers or Mustangs or some other professional team name.

  187. Warriorfan4ever October 23, 2011 7:56 pm

    Amen to that…163

  188. jm2375 October 23, 2011 7:58 pm

    Some of you guys have such short memories.


    I don’t mind when pros are criticized. These guys are getting paid to play. I DO mind when STUDENT-athletes are criticized. 99% of them will not play their sport professionally.


  189. Warriorfan4ever October 23, 2011 7:58 pm

    Right on 167

  190. Warriorfan4ever October 23, 2011 8:02 pm

    So right ur 175

  191. Bryson October 23, 2011 8:09 pm

    In regards to Mack’s comments…If fans feel its their god given right to critique someone then they darn better be ready when it comes back around and smack them upside the head cause criticism goes both ways..Some of these people who say they are supporters yet constantly focus on only the negative and think they have the perfect answer amaze me…As for the amount Coach Mack gets paid Hey the guy got a great contract it’s not like he said give me 1 mil or else I’m gonna leave it was offered to him and he accepted who wouldn’t…the reality is even if they win every game by 1 point a W is a W and in the end that’s all that counts…

  192. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 8:12 pm


    Now lets not get dramatic over here. There wasn’t any personal attacks towards anyone.

  193. Derek October 23, 2011 8:22 pm

    I would like to welcome, Mr. Caleb Dressler, our latest verbal commitment to the UH Warrior basketball program. Aloha!!!! Nice to have you come to Honolulu on your recruiting visit and that you enjoyed your stay. As he had said, it feels like a family away from home. That’s nice. Wonder what he’s going to be majoring in school? Saw some highlights on the internet and I noticed that he runs the floor pretty good. Lanky, but very coordinated and has some nice moves to the basket. Didn’t see him taking some shots from the outside and he did say he was working on improving his free throws and his moves with his right hand. He is left-handed! He’s definitely NOT a Rogue Harris for sure!!!! I hope by the time he gets to Manoa as a freshman he’ll have grown to be 6’11” and put on another 20 to 30 lbs. of muscle by working on the weights and by that time he can make a solid contribution right from the get go and be in the rotation. I like his potential from what I saw and he spreaks pretty good too. And he sings too, but not that good in my opinon.

  194. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 8:24 pm

    A win is a win. But we have 3 losses midway through the season.

    The definition of a fan doesn’t mean showing love to every single person who is apart of the team. Some fans will support everyone unconditionally.

    I praise what needs to be. But when things are looking ugly, I am not gonna ignore the truth and pretend like this is a fantastic season.

    I feel like some fans would honestly by satisfied if Hawaii stayed in the WAC and went won 7-8 games every year against Idaho, NMSU, Texas St, and all those powerhouse schools.

    Reality check to the fans who don’t understand college football. The WAC is AWFUL. No sugar coating. We will be in the Mountain West next season. At the rate we are playing and moving forward as a football program, Boise, San Diego St, Air Force, Nevada, and Fresno will give us all kinds of trouble. New Mexico is probably the only automatic win in the conference. I would say UNLV but we lost to them twice already so I won’t.

    Boise is a top 20 team year in and out.

    San Diego St is starting to bring in serious talent.

    Air Force is right up there and plays at a high mid major level every season.

    Nevada and Fresno both have young STUD QBs in Derek Carr and Cody Fajardo.

    We will once again be rebuilding which seems like the coaches say every season and will be breaking in a QB with 0 experience.

  195. jeezy33 October 23, 2011 8:28 pm

    If you really watched the UH game last night, JHT actually played a very bad game defensively. He let WRs get behind him multiple times. He is young though so I am still optimistic about him. I think he is better suited for corner back but is doing whats best for the team at the moment.

    Torres is still the best safety I think UH has ever had. I’ll take him and his instincts over Silva and Nate Jackson. He’s just a stud and is the best defensive player in the WAC in my opinion. All very good though.

    Trevor Davis shows a ton of promise and I am kind of upset he either 1. Started or saw playing time from the beginning. Or 2. Not burn his redshirt so Pollard could rest a couple series. Already way better than bright.

  196. A-joe October 23, 2011 8:36 pm

    117 Ralph:

    Hawaii is in the final stages of completing one of the best, state of the art Cancer research complex in the nation. The one major problem they face? They don’t have enough researchers. Hawaii lost two key researchers to facilities on the mainland due to better funding.

  197. kev-1 October 23, 2011 8:39 pm

    Blogs are all about people expressing their opinions. Provided the comments aren’t over the line, how can you tell someone what to write or not to write? If someone has an opinion about coach mack, then they should be free to post it, right? Within reason of course. I think it is a bit more unreasonable to send an email directly to the coach of a college football team to offer a suggestion. I state my opinion and thoughts all the time, but realize I am only but a fan who really is only spewing emotion and opinion. Never would I consider myself more qualified than the coach and email him directly to make a suggestion.

    If you are on a level like that, where you are on an email basis with the coach . . . more power to you I guess. But the average fan, I would suggest NOT bothering the coach with your email. I can’t imagine he would take most of them seriously.

  198. 1sportsfan October 23, 2011 8:42 pm

    Give credit to NMSU because they didn’t fold even when they had to rely on a one armed QB. And that’s what is so frustrating when the one armed QB can lead his team to quick TDs and UH is struggling on both O and D. While we know Moniz can run, we’d prefer to see him thread the needle on a 30 yd post pattern. The O line was basically doing very well as Moniz seemed to have all day…but if no receivers are open, does that mean the receivers are in the wrong place? At this stage of the season, you’d like to see an efficient, time consuming, ball control offense ala last season with Salas, Pilares, Bradley, and Pollard. We probably could use more Clapps since he is real steady and durable. Enuff said about PATs. Overall, I’m beginning to suspect its a coaching problem with play calling (on both sides) and strategies.

  199. koakane October 23, 2011 8:43 pm


  200. koakane October 23, 2011 8:43 pm

    nice sunday nite

  201. PowderPuff October 23, 2011 8:50 pm

    Who’s in for the Na Koa Luncheon tomorrow? Mouse Davis is scheduled to speak…

    Tsaikos who are members of the Na Koa Football Club: you should be receiving a membership card soon, BUT it’s going to be an all-encompassing AKA card so individual booster clubs won’t have their own/separate ones. And since all members of booster clubs will get this card, we’ll still have to go through the Na Koa membership list at the Monday Luncheons. And Tsaikos who are part of Na Koa…don’t forget we’ve launched a new Na Koa Member Profiles on the Na Koa website and its Facebook Page. Look for them on Thursdays, including this Thursday’s one with a young man who joined Na Koa just a few days AFTER the defeat at San Jose State.

    Nice to see some Tsaikos before and after the game. A-joe’s banner is soooooo winnahs!!!

  202. 1sportsfan October 23, 2011 8:51 pm

    Pound for pound and football smarts and heart, Torres is UH’s best d-Back but, overall, the d-backs lack intimidating size and struggle bringing down people when they get into open field. That’s where Mana Silva’s size and hitting is greatly missed.

  203. postmanke October 23, 2011 8:52 pm

    As Warrior fans we’re one. I think it’s great we can voice different opinions and still root for our team to victory every saturday. I dont see anything negative with a fan wanting voice his or her team to be the best they can be. All the criticism in here are pretty spot on and not made up. -it’s pretty obvious. So are the positives. But we are who we think we are.. the laws of attraction applies. Some think playing to just to play is okay. Some think Hawaii Bowl is goal accomplished. Many think BCS Bowl is where this program needs to be.

    you can hear the passion in the posts. Its through our thoughts, towards our goals and desires that we can achieve the possibilities. Hawaii in another BCS Bowl? I believe! In a funny way, lot of the criticism in here tonight is the type of thinking we need to get back there. But I agree, player naming should be off limits.

  204. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 9:03 pm

    re #185

    Derek, no one is asking you say something you don’t believe in. The question is: Do you only see negatives? Recently, your posts have seemed to trend that way.

    I’m not telling you what to see. I’m not telling you what to say. But if all you see and say is negative, you may want to check that. It’s up to you.

  205. cocobean October 23, 2011 9:09 pm

    #129. All the press regarding Hadden coming here was positive. He was regarded as one of the top kickers in Cali.

    Clapp our best slot? Maybe, maybe not. I know several people that share that OPINION.

    Davis v Bright. Your opinion is valid. My opinion is Mack openned himself for critisim by saying Davis is one of our two-three best receivers. Coach speak is not one of his strong points. I’m guessing someone like Tomey would say the coaches saw his potential from the beginning but felt he wasn’t ready when the season opened. They felt redshirting would give him time to adjust to college life and learn the offense. But now after going through training camp and six games he’s prgressed to the point that he can help if there’s a need. Tonight Sampson and Bright got dinged, there was a need for Davis to play.

  206. Pride. October 23, 2011 9:10 pm


    October 23rd, 2011 at 12:36 pm

    As of today these are the results of our first TSAIKOS CIRCLE OF HONOR votes:

    Poll will be open for 3 more days then the next sports up will be base ball:

    Don’t forget well pick the top three to be inducted.

    Sorry Pomai, something is wrong with my drop down menu. It didn’t drop far enough for me to vote for Falankio Noga. Can you please put my vote down for Falaniko Noga please. My vote is based on watching him on one play. That play was a blocked kick against West Virginia to retain Hawaii a 16 to 13 lead with seconds left to play. He blocked that kick right up the middle of the line. Oldtimers will share my delight when I say that it was one of the most incredible plays that I have ever seen in Hawaii football history.

  207. jm2375 October 23, 2011 9:10 pm

    What other bowls are we striving for? BCS bowls? For that to happen, UH would have to be undefeated. Even then, it’s not guaranteed. Some schools who make the BCS bowls actually LOSE money. Would you want to go to any other bowl in mid- to late December???

  208. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 9:13 pm


    I would love to go to the Holiday or Las Vegas Bowls.

  209. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 9:18 pm

    Re #194

    Thanks for the insight. Here’s some for you. The WAC may be awful, but by the time we get there, the MWC may be no better.

    PLUS we will never have games on ESPN. PLUS we will be paying travel subsidies. PLUS we will have NO money from local pay per view. PLUS who knows if ESPN pulls sponsorship from the Hawaii Bowl, or MOVES it somewhere else. Heck, will we even have a stadium to play in a few years from now? Remember, Gov. Neil told the NFL to flip off and refused to fund additional stadium improvements.

    Ultimately, there is a very REAL risk that UH is left out of ANY conference once reorganization is complete. No matter what, it’s gonna cost more money. A lot more. Did you see AJoe’s post? Where’s that money coming from?

    All of these things bother me a lot more than losing to SJSU or failing to cover the spread against NMSU, believe me.

  210. postmanke October 23, 2011 9:20 pm

    I dunno, in a sad but exciting way, I kinda look forward to the PAT’s now.. I dont mind seeing one get snuffed or missed. – just score more touchdowns to make up for it.. With the ramped up pressure, It’s all mental at this point. It’s gonna be fun to watch the rest of the way to see this unit battle back for it our mentally. Play through it, hard work does pay off and it does turn around. Good stuff!

  211. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 9:27 pm

    Re #195

    If you really read my post, you’ll see that I said JHT had a career-type game against SJSU. I agree that he didn’t fare as well against NMSU.

    I don’t claim to know everything about football, but I think I can usually tell when someone has an off-game, thank you.

  212. tommui October 23, 2011 9:30 pm

    IWWTHM re #172

    On 10/21 I answered ST about the check

    “You might recall – or at least look at – the messages on 10/16, specifically at #149, 150, 167 and 169 which may have generated the check that you are asking about.

    I assume there was no response.

    So send it in anyway.

    It has nothing to do with a buy-out but putting actual support rather than just mouthing it.”

    What it was essentially was to make ST a stakeholder that I would donate x dollars if so and so would donate the same amount and also to send it to ST.

  213. al October 23, 2011 9:33 pm

    pride. I have to agree that niko noga was perhaps the best warrior to ever play the game for Hawaii. I, too did witness that play.

    he was. double and triple teamed every play.

    so good was he that he could have started for us in his junior year at farrington hs.

    so that’s at least two votes for niko.

  214. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2011 9:35 pm


    I wonder how many people sent in checks to buyout his contract and noted so in the memo section.

  215. al October 23, 2011 9:38 pm

    the oddity of last night was when the entire stadium held it’s collective breaths as the team lined up for the first PAT.

    then, audible sigh of relief and applause ensued when chun hit it without hitch.

  216. al October 23, 2011 9:40 pm

    the next oddity was when after three consecutive PAT’s we switched kickers. that’s the one that hit the upright.


  217. jm2375 October 23, 2011 9:42 pm

    Congrats to the Wahine on their victory. Best wishes on their upcoming road trip.

    2012 version of the Warrior volleyball team was introduced tonight with a hitting exhibition. 😀

  218. al October 23, 2011 9:47 pm

    this led to the next kick (missed fg) going astray to the right.

    and later an errant hold followed by two missed 2pt attempts.

    it adds up…to a loss 9 potential points.

  219. al October 23, 2011 9:48 pm

    we are definitely a team that is not in mid season form.

  220. WarriorMojo October 23, 2011 9:56 pm

    Al, I thought it was posted that Chun got hurt so that’s why the change in kickers.

  221. jonj October 23, 2011 9:57 pm

    Im sick of reading these fire coach mack! june jones in 8 seasons only had 1 undefeated season! we lost to unlv with jj we even lost to a D2 team once. This year we will have a 9 or 10 win season. Coach mack has done an outstanding job! recruiting has been way better than when june was here! although june now is recruiting like a champ. He put together a solid staff! which is why we have a top offense and a solid D. our O and D coordinators will get pouched by a wealthier team. Do i think mack should take a pay cut.. yes.. do i think our FG team suck… hell yes.. Am I upset were not 6-1… yes… but realisticly this is football, anything can happen any given game and thats why i watch football

    Jeezy…. 1. trevor davis is a freshmen! Im sure they always thought he was great, probably why they gave him a schollie! but if the kid didnt know the play book… should they play him?? perhaps finally in midseason the kid shows that he got the playbook down and they throw him in. 2. u say were taking steps back. but under mack i saw us give USC, washington, cincinatti a run for their money, meaning we are competing with the best of them!

  222. Bwhaha October 23, 2011 10:06 pm

    a W is a W

    but, a L is a L

    we need to WIN against the “best of them”

  223. jonj October 23, 2011 10:08 pm

    I agree… we do need to win against the best of them! and I think were headed in that direction! Did we win against the best of them with JJ??

  224. BG October 23, 2011 10:48 pm

    I had hoped to ask for some prayers tonight…but it appears that the blog needs the prayers. And this after a win. I hope tomorrow also brings perspective for everyone.


  225. SteveM October 23, 2011 10:51 pm

    Is is it 24 hours for win celebrations and 48 hours for loss post-mortems?

    Not sure where we are now…

    Anyway… 6 day countdown to Idaho at Idaho.


    WarriorMojo — hi! Long time. I got karaoke this Saturday if you’re in town!

  226. al October 23, 2011 10:51 pm

    wmojo….I didn’t see that. that would explain the switch.

  227. Slugger October 23, 2011 11:05 pm


    Prayers for your ‘ohana. The blog doesn’t need prayers, as much as you or other Tsaikos in need of them. The blog just needs positive energy.

  228. printing October 23, 2011 11:16 pm

    time to change your gloves

  229. Slugger October 23, 2011 11:38 pm


    If you are lurking… I met someone from Hilo tonight at the showing of “The Descendants” who knows you and your whole L.L. ‘ohana.

    Night all!

  230. LizKauai (iPhone) October 23, 2011 11:56 pm

    BG. Blessings and joy to you and your Ohana. Healing to all wounded Warriors and alumni. ESP. Alex Green and his knee.

    Landed on Kauai.

    Heading back home. Mahalo Tsai-ketts for a most wonderful weekend. And mahalo to UH Athletics for THREE WINS!!!

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  232. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc October 24, 2011 1:27 am

    I plan to do some major research as to why the HUGE cutbacks in th external funding. I am assuming it’s the earmark eliminations, but I will know more by Tuesday afternoon.

    Here is just one comparison:

    Fiscal Year July 1, 2010 – August 31, 2010: $123,955,821

    Fiscal Year July 1, 2011 – August 31, 2011: $ 77,653,777

    These are not legislative allocations but grants from private foundations, NGOs and the federal government.

    BTW: For those of you who are interested in economic development issues at the Aloha Stadium site, here are the five areas that are being researched right now: A high-tech business park; an international team and individual sports venue; multi-family workforce rental housing as part of transit-oriented development; a hotel for visiting teams/fans and military visitors; small footprint retail/food service business development along with parking facilities.

    The discussions began eighteen months ago when the conference re-alignmenmts began.

  233. maddog50 October 24, 2011 2:22 am

    Yesterday is gone. Today and tomorrow is Idaho. Spreads, sniping, criticizing, who cares. Play the gamew coach the game and just win the game and and go on to your next tomorrow. 1 quarter at a time. The most important play you make is the next one—-

  234. Wes'side Warrior October 24, 2011 3:03 am

    People complaining that Coach Mack doesn’t know his players…

    He said “our little guy hurt his knee and wasn’t able to kick… Kenton, I should say”. Nothing wrong with that. I remember Coach Glanville… used to call players by their number only.

    I guess the negativity is coming from those who absolutely hate our Coach, and no matter what he does, they will find something ugly to say.

    BG… sending prayers your way. Continued prayers and speedy recovery to all our ailing Warriors and friends.

    W-Doc… Thanks for always keeping us updated on stuff around the state. The ideas for Aloha Stadium are pretty exciting. Would like to see a couple of those ideas combined. But, if anything like this happens, they’ll need to consider a parking structure on site as well. Parking is already a premium. Add in more buildings that take additional space and employee/visitor parking, and we will make matters worse.

  235. Wes'side Warrior October 24, 2011 3:10 am

    I like A-House’s idea of having both O and D Coordinators up in the booth. They are the ones who ultimately plan and scheme. They are the ones who should be making on-the-fly adjustments; the ones seeing how plays are opening up; the ones seeing tendencies on the opposite side of the ball; the ones seeing what we’re doing wrong on our side of the ball; the ones relaying messages down to the field, to be implemented by our HC and position coaches.

    In my opinion, anyway.

    Oh, by the way…

    Good morning, everyone! Hope you all have a great day!

    Go, Warriors!!!

  236. Garret October 24, 2011 4:16 am

    Thanks for the insight. Here’s some for you. The WAC may be awful, but by the time we get there, the MWC may be no better.

    PLUS we will never have games on ESPN. PLUS we will be paying travel subsidies. PLUS we will have NO money from local pay per view. PLUS who knows if ESPN pulls sponsorship from the Hawaii Bowl, or MOVES it somewhere else. Heck, will we even have a stadium to play in a few years from now? Remember, Gov. Neil told the NFL to flip off and refused to fund additional stadium improvements.

    Ultimately, there is a very REAL risk that UH is left out of ANY conference once reorganization is complete. No matter what, it’s gonna cost more money. A lot more. Did you see AJoe’s post? Where’s that money coming from?

    All of these things bother me a lot more than losing to SJSU or failing to cover the spread against NMSU, believe me.

    I agree 100% with WarriorMojo’s post here. This is the reality that bothers me the most, more than the losses to SJSU or UNLV.

    The monetary loss to UH is much worse than what A-Joe posted, and I believe even worse than WassupDoc’s updated numbers that showed even more losses for UH. For everyone who says that Upper Campus should spend more on Athletics, the reality is that UH doesn’t have the money. UH’s budget cuts in the next 2 years are going to be brutal and the Academic side will be hurt possibly even worse than Athletics.

    In an environment of tuition increases and decreases in the quality of education UH students will get, the $8 mil to $10 mil that Upper Campus uses for Athletics is going to get squeezed. Even when UHAD is in the black like now, Upper Campus is still providing millions to Athletics.

  237. Garret October 24, 2011 4:19 am

    On the bright side, UH *will* be on ESPN in the future. Nonconference road games (like vs. BYU) can be on ESPN, paycheck games (which UH doesn’t want to do) can be on ESPN, and neutral site games can be on ESPN for big money.

    UH will probably be on ESPN 1-2 times per season in the future. We won’t have 10+ games on ESPN3 for free and tons of ESPN GamePlan/ESPN games to choose from, but UH will get 1-2 road games on ESPN. Unfortunately, those are road games in hostile places, but at least UH gets a shot to prove itself on ESPN.

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  239. Stretch October 24, 2011 5:26 am

    #234 WW – Re: Coach Mack forgetting names. Unfortunately it’s true. He has difficulty remembering names of players and tries to cover it up. I can relate since I have a bad memory but if you were Kenton Chun’s parents, what would you be thinking??

  240. Pomai October 24, 2011 5:31 am

    #206 and #213 – Pride and al, sorry but Mr. Falankio Noga, is not on the list. At the time I made the list from the suggestion of our fellow bloggers no one suggested his name. I wish you had then he would be on the list. But as the old saying goes, you snooze you lose. Hope you and al will join us in the next category up = Baseball next week

  241. Pomai October 24, 2011 5:41 am

    #205 – cocobean – To me Justing Clapp has been a pleasant surprise for me, he has stepped up his game in filling in for Ostrowski . I see him improving every game. He may not be the best slot this season but if he continues the way he is going next season he could be.

  242. Pomai October 24, 2011 5:45 am

    #239 – Stretch – They would proably think “Eh fricken Mack wen forget da boys name wot a baboz” then turn around and laugh.

  243. Stretch October 24, 2011 5:55 am

    “baboz” would be putting it nicely.

  244. Wes'side Warrior October 24, 2011 6:09 am

    Stretch… I have to laugh (with you). My wife will often call our kids, nephews, and nieces by the wrong names. My mom still does it to this day. For me, I guess, it’s a non-issue. It’s funnier when my kids will call my wife their teacher’s name. As long as I don’t go yelling out another girl’s name, I’m okay.

    I was just saying Coach Mac corrected himself in the same sentence. He didn’t repeatedly say “our little guy” as someone posted.

    I hear what you guys are saying, but since I’ve been hearing it for ages, it doesn’t really phase me.

  245. Wes'side Warrior October 24, 2011 6:15 am

    Got it, Pomai…

    Miah started out on fire, being the go-to guy in clutch situations against Colorado. After getting hurt, Clapp was sent in, and has really stepped up. We’ve got so many receivers not at 100% right now, which makes Moniz’s job that much harder. We saw a couple of passes thrown Saturday night to where a receiver should have gone. As long as we iron out these things before too long, I’ll be okay. Lots of boyz are being called up to fill in. At least in that regard, they are all getting much needed game experience.

  246. Wes'side Warrior October 24, 2011 6:21 am

    I still want to know what our kickers can do to help them kick it out of the end zone. Is it leg speed, like bat speed for baseball? Is it just plain ol’ brute strength? Is it where they make contact with the ball, or how the ball is set on the tee? Just wondering.

    Just spent the whole morning trying to trouble shoot my kid’s airbag light problem. Electrical problems irritate me.

    Gonna spend some time inside, googling how kick that ball.

  247. d1shima October 24, 2011 6:37 am

    Great Morning All!


    Pride is right! Da buggah was so unreal, put Niko Noga on the baseball list den! 😆

  248. d1shima October 24, 2011 6:38 am

    Hoping the Weary Warriors are able to heal up quickly.

  249. jayz43 October 24, 2011 7:33 am

    Just wonderin’:

    Does Moniz have personal problems in his life. His performance recently has not been “Moniz-like”.

    With NM State running up and down the field, whose decision was it to insert the second/third string qb with 7 minutes left with UH up only 2 tds and change?! FINISH THE GAME and make a statement. The fans deserve at least that after a deplorable kicking performance the whole game.

    Did the PAT kicker have any idea how much money UH backers nationwide lost on the missed PAT right before the end of the 1st half?!

    Most of the hardcore UH fans really didn’t want to hear McMackin’s whining or excuses after the game. The kicking game was suspect a few games ago and nothing has improved, it’s actually more glaringly deficient.

    Personally, McMackin’s whining does not inspire confidence. McMackin might need to get “McPackin” out of town.

  250. SacMacNWac October 24, 2011 9:07 am

    Time for JD to sack Coach Mac! Geez, 7th game into the season and he’s flip flopping between kickers! Kickers are a different breed of athletes. It’s all about confidence and once you get in their heads, they’re finished! Doesn’t help much when Mac keeps rotating them between PAT’s! At this stage in the season, just go with Hadden! Stronger leg versus Chun, same results with PAT’s, and at least he can kick-off! Wait until the game is really on the line when UH needs a win to qualify for the Hawaii Bowl. I wonder how whoever is kicking is going to feel?

    As we leave the WAC, JD needs to reassess the program and is Mac the guy who elevates UH to the next level? Three issues which haven’t been answered: 1) Can’t win the big games, especially on ESPN, 2) Can’t recruit locally, and 3) Dwindling attendance. UH is a program floundering in the Pacific waiting for the dominoes to fall. UH has to grab the bull by it’s horns and make it happen now before all doors are shut.

  251. performance coach October 24, 2011 10:13 am

    I simply cannot take jeezy33 seriously, and no one else here should either. Several years ago that person ripped on the program for giving corey paredes and richard torres scholarships, claiming that they were D2 talent. He or she whined when they started paredes in his sophomore year, even though he was awarded WAC player of the week in his FIRST start against Washington State. Now here he or she is just swooning over richard torres. My, my, my. All of you negative people need to learn more about football, how it’s played, and the value of football head coaches. We pay 1.1 mil for coach mac. How much does it take to have an elite coach? Coach Saban makes 4 mil plus, Coach Miles makes 3.1 mil plus, Coach Petersen makes 2.2 mil plus. Get the picture? Coach Mac is a great Coach, and if we want better, we need to ante up. It is simply ridiculous to bring his salary down to match salaries that are paid to highly paid administrators in the UH system. It doesn’t work that way. Ask the college to get Oprah or Jim Carrey to act at Kennedy theater in one of their productions for the peanuts the actors there get. You won’t have much luck because it doesn’t work that way. Coach mac is doing a great job. Don’t worry about the kicking, he’ll get that fixed. Don’t worry about Moniz, he’s having to learn how to run this new offense because of the departure of Greg and Kealoha. You CAN cheer and celebrate Joey “Freight Train” Iosefa and Scott “Sure Hands” Harding, two freshman who will contribute heavily in the next 3 years. The future looks bright as ever.

  252. performance coach October 24, 2011 10:20 am

    One last shot. It is simply laughable how everyone forgets about the Coach Von Appen years. Now THOSE were difficult times my friends. And everyone should get over Coach Jones. Jones lost to Florida Atlantic, and also had some losing seasons. I think him allowing Colt to get beat up in the Sugar Bowl soured many peoples opinion of Colt, contributing to the difficulties Colt encounters trying to play in the NFL.

  253. Derek October 24, 2011 1:01 pm

    #204 I guess my expectations are higher than yours. Being mediocre or average is not my cup of tea. Sooner or later, coaches get fired or either resign under pressure. It all goes back on the coaches, they are the ones who do the recruiting and the ones who make the decisions. I don’t knock the players, they are who they are. If they are not BCS caliber it’s not their fault. Corey Nielson, backup QB who was at the bottom of the depth chart, he was my favorite player. So let’s not tell me I’m negative. There is a huge difference between being negative and being frank and being honest. The natural thing for people to think is they only see one side that is the bad side. There is always 2 sides, 3 if you count the middle. People that things personally. I like to be objective and try to look at the big picture. I had the same problem until I learned in a seminar that when confronted a tough situation, the best thing to do is not to make rash decisions, but take a step back and clear the thought process before making a decision. College or Pro football is a tough sport. College players are not so called professionals. Some would argue that because many of them aspire to a pro career. Either way, it’s a business and can be very cruel. As Coach Mack has said it’s not PE football. As Dan Hawkins said, “it’s Divsion I football, it’s the Big 12!!!” He didn’t win so he’s gone. Show me a nice guy and you will find a loser. We can disagree, it’s okay. Free country. I guess I’m a bad loser, because when you lose it hurts and it hurts a whole community. I was not raised to accept losing too often. Someone told me to “don’t settle on things”. If you want to get anywhere, be a risk taker. I learneded a long time ago that teams lose more often because of their own miscues, not because the other team beat us. It’s is self inflicted. That is what I see with our football team. At the very least we should be 6-1 right now. Mistakes, plus poor coaching decisions all contributed. All we can do right now is to hope the team can play a good game on the road this Saturday and come up on top.

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