Staying put?

It’s still early, of course, and there are a lot of factors that still could come into play, but as of now, cornerback/returner Mike Edwards is leaning toward returning for his senior season in 2013.

“It might be the best thing, not only for me but for my family,” Edwards said.

Edwards, who has two sons, said he would like to earn a bachelor’s degree. He also said he could benefit from another college season.

Edwards will not make a final decision until after he receives a draft-prediction assessment from an NFL panel.

* * * * *

While there is optimism that Sean Schroeder will be ready for Saturday’s game, he did not practice yesterday because of a back ailment. Jeremy Higgins took all of the first-team reps. Cayman Shutter took the other QB reps.

* * * * *

Former UH slotback/punter Craig Stutzmann, Bill Stutzmann Sr. and Mark Davis (Trevor Davis’ dad):

aloha2


* * * * *

Whoops. Not sure how this got on here:

aloha1

* * * * * *

The funniest thing with all of the conference shifting and big TV contracts is, while it will be healthy for the bank accounts, it won’t necessarily improve viewership.


There can never be an all-star conference because somebody has to be at the bottom. Look at the Avengers. Not everyone can be Thor. Somebody has to be the Black Widow.

Also , what makes sports compelling is the unscripted drama. There’s going to be some great story โ€” an orphan quarterback who has to support three siblings; a running back who was home-schooled โ€” that will capture viewers. You can’t force spontaneity.

COMMENTS

  1. Beewhyyou November 28, 2012 8:00 am

    top ten


  2. Bigislandkurt November 28, 2012 8:01 am

    tops?

    BIK


  3. J-FORCE November 28, 2012 8:02 am

    Cool…


  4. greenthumb November 28, 2012 8:02 am

    Best wishes to Mike Edwards as he weighs his options. ๐Ÿ™‚


  5. Da Punchbowl Kid November 28, 2012 8:02 am

    Dos?


  6. Da Punchbowl Kid November 28, 2012 8:03 am

    Top ten anyway… great news about Edwards. He will be the leader of a very good team next season.

    GO WARRIORS!!!


  7. Bugaz November 28, 2012 8:05 am

    Make the right choice for your family Mr. Edwards. Hopefully I get to cheer you on for another season, but if it’s the NFL…understandable. Aloha


  8. Leron November 28, 2012 8:08 am

    Mike can up his draft stock if he stays one more year. Then again, he’s been pretty spectacular on kick returns and consistent on defense.


  9. tommui November 28, 2012 8:09 am

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Hope Edwards stays!


  10. Bugaz November 28, 2012 8:09 am

    That’s right! I’ll be “staying put” in my season ticket seat all next season too. Thought about going pro but…oops fell off my chair laughing


  11. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:21 am

    Bugaz:

    No, no, no. You can’t go pro. Do you know how much NFL season tickets go? Stay with UH.


  12. Annoddah Dave November 28, 2012 8:23 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    Is Craig Stutzmann a coach at Weber? I forget. Their season must be pau if he is back home.


  13. Shoko November 28, 2012 8:24 am

    Add Florida Atlantic to Middle Tennessee joining CUSA to replace ECU and Tulane, which are headed to the Big East. Its somewhat ironic that Karl Benson left the WAC to join the Sun Belt only to be faced with schools leaving his conference, once again. That would lave the Sun Belt with 8 teams, with UTSA joining next year to make it 9 teams total.


  14. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:25 am

    AD:

    Stutzmann is a coach at Weber State.

    He’s in town recruiting.


  15. Kevin November 28, 2012 8:27 am

    Edwards seems like a smart and calculating guy.

    People like that end up making the best decisions.


  16. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:28 am

    Suppose you’re looking for someone at the mall. You go to Macy’s, the other person already left Macy’s and went to the food court.

    The best strategy is to just stay in one place and let the other person find you.

    I think that’s the Mountain West’s strategy in this conference realignment.


  17. (Jesse) James November 28, 2012 8:30 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!!

    Hope all have a great day!!!


  18. Old School Dave November 28, 2012 8:33 am

    RS: Many mahalos for your detailed info and take on Resser Stadium. Metal bleachers? When I lived in Seattle, Husky Stadium was mostly wooden bleachers – I guess metal bleachers have a little more give :-).


  19. Shoko November 28, 2012 8:34 am

    Surprised there has been no mention of the Big East looking toward the Mountain West for teams to replace the ones that are leaving.


  20. BigWave96744 November 28, 2012 8:36 am

    Stephen, as far as this weekend goes, I don’t expect to see Darius Bright during the Seniorwalk because he quit the team ( just like Terrence Bell a few years back). But do you know if Siaki Cravens will be honored since he is still on the active roster.

    Also do you know if Kawika Ornellas will suit up? He is the only Senior, besides Cravens to not appear in any games. Kawiks is a great guy and I hope he gets some PT in his last game.


  21. Shoko November 28, 2012 8:39 am

    With Rutgers and Louisville leaving, the conference format would look like this.

    West: Boise State, San Diego State, Houston, SMU, Tulane, Memphis

    East: Connecticut, Cincinnati, South Florida, Central Florida, East Carolina, Temple

    Navy joins in 2015 with another team that is still to be addressed.


  22. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:41 am

    Ornellas will suit up.

    UH also has invited Brandon Leslie and Levi Legay to be part of the ceremonies.

    By the way, it’s really difficult to get a line on the actual number of seniors. UH media relations first announced 14. But they forgot Kyle Niiro. So then it was 15. And then they said, wait, add Hunter Hollowed to the list. So I hunted him down (hey, I made a pun!), got comments, etc., etc., etc.

    Then yesterday I bragged to media relations how I got Hollowed. And they said, Oh, he’s not a senior.

    Welcome to my world.


  23. WarriorMojo November 28, 2012 8:42 am

    Gonna have to agree with AGrease and Kekoa from yesterday’s blog re Teo. Don’t know the guy at all, but every once in awhile I see something that makes me wonder how much of his image is real and how much is just manufactured.

    He is clearly very media savvy or is getting advice from someone who is, but I remember some questionable/dirty stuff he did on the field in high school, his alleged recruiting indulgences on his campus visits, his nasty comments about Mack and Pete Carrol, when neither guy was able to defend himself. In fact just last year he made those controversial Twitter remarks about Coach Kelley, implying that he didn’t support the coach and was only playing for himself and his boys.

    Just not buying the Manti Teo as the gridiron version of a cure for cancer just yet.


  24. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:44 am

    By the way, I love how the thinking is Rutgers carries the N.Y. metropolitan area market.

    Uh, no, it doesn’t.

    Just like SMU doesn’t carry the Dallas market, or San Jose State doesn’t carry the Bay Area market.

    If you’re a wallflower, are you really a part of the dance?


  25. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 8:53 am

    Mike Edwards and Paipai Falemalu are 1-2 in the online auction for freedom jerseys.


  26. jojo ยฎ November 28, 2012 8:54 am

    I’m a wallflower. I dance on my own!!


  27. wasabi November 28, 2012 8:56 am

    #20. Bright didn’t quit, did he ST?


  28. Annoddah Dave November 28, 2012 8:57 am

    ST: Glad to hear that the Black Widow is on the bottom in your analogy. She is better than having Thor there!


  29. BigWave96744 November 28, 2012 9:02 am

    Awesome news on Legay and Leslie…

    Levi and Miah are the last of the June Jones recruits…

    At first I thought Hooikaika Cavaco-Amoy was a senior because he grad from St. Louis with Hano’s and the Beast in 2008. I suppose, like Paclebar, he was a greyshirt walkon in 2009.

    Oh and much Mahalo Stephen , per #20… Darn auto fill ๐Ÿ™


  30. Shoko November 28, 2012 9:03 am

    Sheesh, all this time I thought Rutgers was in Florida.


  31. Shoko November 28, 2012 9:05 am

    Wasn’t Brights situation more of a resignation, rather than quiting?

    Wait, thats the same thing.


  32. koakane November 28, 2012 9:06 am

    morning 808 ๐Ÿ˜Ž anoddah bright sunny day in Hawaii

    #26 wot brought that on ๐Ÿ˜ฏ

    safe ๐Ÿ™‚ journey to vball wahines or they maybe there already, blessing to the bball ๐Ÿ˜‰ wahines in their game with Utah


  33. Shoko November 28, 2012 9:10 am

    Rumor has it that a Colorado rep has contacted Utah State’s Gary Anderson.


  34. Annoddah Dave November 28, 2012 9:11 am

    ST: With the WW jerseys there are double numbers. Is there a list so one can tell who wore which one? How come you did not include #13 who has the lead in bidding (the second one listed not the first).


  35. BigWave96744 November 28, 2012 9:16 am

    Re.Jojo #26, I got these 3 songs in my cranium just from your subliminal post

    The Wallflowers: One Headlight

    Billy Idol: Dancing with Myself

    Men Without Hats: Safety Dance (“You can dance if you want to”)


  36. westwind November 28, 2012 9:17 am

    ST, will they announce who will be doing the senior walk? Also, for those players who won’t be returning, will we have a chance to see them?


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  38. Wes'side Warrior November 28, 2012 9:29 am

    Howzit, Gang!

    Lots of “other” action going on in the background these days.

    Really looking forward to being back home by the time next season starts up. Haven’t been to a home UH game in ages! And pretty excited about the games scheduled too!


  39. Wes'side Warrior November 28, 2012 9:32 am

    For those of us who were able to get a ticket for tonight’s PowerBall…

    Good luck!!!

    Hope one of us hits it!


  40. jm2375 (iPad) November 28, 2012 9:37 am

    Howzit Tsaikos!

    Hope Edwards stays to get his degree.

    Pau with meetings for the day. Off to Trader Joe’s to do some shopping. Since I’m walking, not sure how much I can carry.

    GO WAHINE!!

    GO WARRIORS!!


  41. cocobean November 28, 2012 9:37 am

    W-Mojo. Can you be more specific. Give some examples.

    What dirty stuff in high school?

    What recruiting indulgences on campus visits?

    What were his nasty comments about Mack and Carroll?

    What did he actually say on twitter implying he didn’t support Kelly?

    I’m sure you’ve heard about “coach speak.” That special diplomatic language coaches use when addressing the media. Te’o uses a lot of “player speak” if that what you mean by media savy.


  42. d1shima November 28, 2012 9:40 am


  43. A-House November 28, 2012 9:43 am

    Hmmmmmm, only 13 scholarships for 2013, eh!

    conclusion: 12 have already been assigned to transfers, redshirts, etc?


  44. A-House November 28, 2012 9:44 am

    jm2375:

    Trader Joes? wea u stay? no mo TJ in Hawaii!


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  46. jojo ยฎ November 28, 2012 9:45 am

    BigWave96744 – I wasn’t “trying” to be subliminal!

    Koakane – I know you miss me.

    And please buy your Hawaii Bowl tickets to support the Hawaii Bowl since it’s the only bowl game here in Hawaii (not talking Pro Bowl, which you can purchase at the stadium box office or ticketmaster or scalper)


  47. Derek November 28, 2012 9:48 am

    Kaepernick to start again. I trust Harbaugh’s decision.

    If Edwards come back he can work on his degree and he will be playing football next year. If he tries pro ball, he might not be playing football next year , unless arena league or Canadian. Tough decision for him.


  48. A-House November 28, 2012 9:49 am

    IIRC, did not Teo indulge in alcholoic beverage with a former Kahuku player on his recruiting visit to BYU?

    I don’t know if he is qualified to be a Heisman candidate, but unlike Colt Brennan who played for UH, it does not really matter to me.

    Name the only 2 x winner of the Heisman and school?

    Name the only winner who played for a “losing” team, but very high profile school?


  49. Shoko November 28, 2012 9:54 am

    Archie Griffin won it twice. Think he was Ohio State?


  50. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 10:07 am

    I’m glad Edwards is considering staying. If his draft projection is high, say bye is my guess…regardless of how tempting that degree may be.

    Hope he does stay though.


  51. WarriorNY November 28, 2012 10:14 am

    Morning all,

    I hope Edwards does what’s best for him. I’d love to see him in the NFL at some point. The Giants could use a shutdown corner…

    Though, I can’t wait to see him on Marqise Lee in the opening game next year. (I wish he was on Lee instead of Woods in this year’s opener)…


  52. (Jesse) James November 28, 2012 10:41 am

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    (Next door to Sam Choy’s BLC)

    When: December 8th, 2012

    6:30pm until whenever

    What: Buffet (menu to be announced)

    Price: $25.00 all inclusive, buffet, tax and gratuity

    No-host bar

    RSVP: Please RSVP to jgo8464822@aol.com by 12/4/12. Payment needs to be made prior to the event. If we have your RSVP and you decide not to come and you have not paid, we will have to pay for you. Pay James at either of the next two tailgates, or if mailing address or more information is needed, please request by email.

    Parking: Free Valet, accepts a gratuity

    The menu is looking to include:

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  53. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 11:09 am

    Can someone clarify comments on call the coach about not renewing scholarships?

    Coach Chris said we only have 13 to offer. That sounds like a problem.

    He also said that the program can’t take away a scholarship based on athletic ability.

    Curran disagrees with that stating the NCAA allows for a program to take away a scholarship based on not making athletic progress.

    Who is right here?


  54. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 11:11 am

    I am looking for the YouTube clip where Lane Kiffin responded to a reporter about a player whose scholarship was NOT renewed.

    His response was that these scholarships are a one year deal and USC can take it away.


  55. Independent Thinker November 28, 2012 11:13 am

    To the Te’o haters, and you know who you are, I wish you all the best. I also wish all the radical, extreme, right-wing nutjob Republicans from the SEC, who are your allies, all the best.

    Te’o will be in NY and he may actually win the Heisman. You, meanwhile, will go on with your sad and pessimistic life as a keyboard warrior, belittling a young man who has done nothing to hurt you and who has been a great ambassador of Aloha in recent times for all the world.

    Go Te’o!!!

    Go Warriors!!!


  56. Ken K November 28, 2012 11:14 am

    Paul Hornung won the Heisman while playing for a losing Notre Dame (2-8) team in 1956.


  57. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 11:14 am

    IWWTHM:

    I decided I’m going to let Derek Inouchi answer all of your questions: 956-4478.


  58. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 11:16 am

    iwwthm

    No, a coach cannot cancel or reduce an athlete’s scholarship during the season for an athletic reason. According to Bylaw 15.3.4.3, an athletic scholarship may not be reduced or canceled during the period of its award:

    (a) On the basis of a student-athleteโ€™s athletics ability, performance or contribution to a teamโ€™s success;

    (b) Because of an injury, illness, or physical or mental medical condition (except as permitted pursuant to Bylaw 15.3.4.2 [see below]); or

    (c) For any other athletics reason.

    Under Bylaw 15.3.4.2, a coach or university may only cut an athlete’s scholarship during the school year if s/he:

    Becomes ineligible;

    Fraudulently misrepresents any information on a university document;

    Engages in serious misconduct; or

    Voluntarily withdraw from their team.


  59. A-House November 28, 2012 11:17 am

    Shoko:

    You are correct in naming the player, but people at THE Ohio State would be very upset – not me!

    Is there more than one Ohio State University? I know there is an Ohio University. MasaBoy has a lady friend who graduated from THE Ohio State and constantly corrected him for not using THE.

    some people’s children – I swear!!!!!!!


  60. A-House November 28, 2012 11:18 am

    The Heisman winner on a losing team ( 5 – 6 ) is Paul Hourning, Notre Dame in 1956 IIRC.


  61. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 11:18 am

    But, scholarships are annual, aren’t they? I think what I just posted is for “during the school year only”.


  62. Stephen Tsai November 28, 2012 11:20 am

    I did not realize Reinebold got fired:

    http://blogs.montrealgazette.com/2012/11/27/als-fire-defensive-co-ordinator-reinebold/


  63. A-House November 28, 2012 11:20 am

    Ken K:

    you are probably more correct in the overall won/loss record for Hourning.


  64. A-House November 28, 2012 11:26 am

    Independent Thinker:

    your #55 – I must take exception to your statement that I can “go on with your sad and pessimistic life”

    WHO THE HELL ARE YOU TO TELL ME THAT MY LIFE IS SAD AND PESSIMISTIC!!!!!!!!


  65. kifi November 28, 2012 11:28 am

    Why does that name Trent Miles sound familiar?


  66. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 11:31 am

    This is the story about Kiffin taking away the scholarship of a walk-on and giving it to a LB with previous drama.

    Doesn’t sound like the walk-on did anything to warrant a non-renewal under those guidelines listed by madeinhawaii #58. Not sure if there is another rule somewhere?

    http://www.theschoolphilly.com/today-in-ncaa-culture-lane-kiffin-pulled-walk-ons-scholarship-to-make-room-for-linebacker-released-from-jail/


  67. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 11:38 am

    Madeinhawaii,

    Maybe when the season ends there are different rules in place.


  68. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 11:39 am

    IWWHM…

    The walk-on can probably file suit and the school has enough money to settle out of court. The kid will get 4-5 years worth of tuition + living expenses … that way, Kiffen gets another ‘scholie’ athlete?


  69. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 11:41 am

    IWWTHM

    Athletic scholarships are limited to 1 year by NCAA rule. If however, a university does not wish to renew or wishes to reduce a student-athleteโ€™s athletic scholarship, certain rules must be adhered to. The university must notify the student-athlete in writing of the decision and must provide the opportunity for a hearing. In addition, the university must provide the student-athlete with all pertinent deadlines and procedures governing such hearings.

    If a student-athlete does not receive written notification of the non-renewal or reduction of his or her scholarship and associated hearing procedures, he or she should request such information in a letter or email to a university representative.

    from : http://ctsportslaw.com/2011/10/06/when-can-a-school-take-away-your-scholarship/


  70. letsgowarriors November 28, 2012 11:43 am

    scholarships are only annually, so kiffin has the right to not renew it. yeah u cant pull it during the season or even in the spring semester, unless their grades are bad. but when august comes around, he dont have to renew it for another year.


  71. kifi November 28, 2012 11:44 am

    Can’t believe how quickly some of these head coach-less schools are progressing with their coaching searches. Awesome.

    Day 1 – Fire.

    Day 2 thru 5 – Send out feelers to coaches that you have had in mind for a year.

    Day 4 – 6 Interviews.

    Day 8 or 9 – Hire new coach.

    Day 10 (Morning) – New coach starts recruiting.

    Day 10 (Noon) – New coach meets team.

    Day 10 (Afternoon) – New coach introduced to public.

    Day 12 – New staff introduced by new head coach.

    Day 14 – Winter Conditioning begins

    Day 15 – New coach stars preparation with old team for bowl game.

    Day 16 – New Assoc. Head Coach, not as nice, a little bit nasty takes over winter conditioning. Players all feeling a little bit uncomfortable. Dial has turned up tremendously. A little bit more intense, a litttle bit more difficult than used to.

    Day 17 – “Oh boy, can’t wait to go home for Christmas.”


  72. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 11:51 am

    Kifi..

    Good thing our BOR, UH Pres, VP and Chancellor got our backs, yah? I mean, who needs an AD?


  73. d1shima November 28, 2012 11:51 am

    Hawaii, where red tape is not only used for wrapping Christmas gifts…


  74. Rodney November 28, 2012 12:03 pm

    State motto “if can,can. if no can, no can”


  75. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 12:10 pm

    In her next evaluation, MRC will show how she shaved $200,000 off the top of this year’s Athletic Department expenses…


  76. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 12:10 pm

    Oh wait.. forget that…that’s how much the Athletic Department blew on the Wonder Blunder…


  77. Independent Thinker November 28, 2012 12:30 pm

    Heisman Watch: Why Manti Te’o’s Winning Resume Trumps Johnny Manziel’s Stats

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1423384-heisman-watch-why-notre-dames-manti-teo-should-win-and-why-thats-okay


  78. cocobean November 28, 2012 12:57 pm

    #77. Johnny Football is the perfect name for a Heisman candidate, a QB to boot. The odds are stacked against Te’o.

    I can hear Nick Saban saying, “we haven’t lost to a team in two years. We got beat by Cam Newton and Johnny Football.”

    Te’o’s best chance of winning is if the voters use the same rationale many did when Mark Ingram from Alabama won — give it to the best player on the #1 ranked team.


  79. duh! November 28, 2012 1:17 pm

    If there was a little more red tape in place, Jim Donovan would still be the AD.


  80. Otto November 28, 2012 1:26 pm

    Rutgers wants to catch the NY metro area’s attention, but I don’t know. Rutgers is actually in NJ. NY State has smaller State University of New York (SUNY) schools scattered across the state. They don’t have one big school to capture all the athletes. For a long time, the big NY football school was Syracuse, but ever since Donovan McNabb they haven’t really been relevant. Rutgers is trying to fill the void….


  81. kitsunegari November 28, 2012 1:32 pm

    there go steve again. first all huhu back when had da warriorbeat show and he cried to get manti as one guest. Sad old lonely man.


  82. PurpleMaple November 28, 2012 2:04 pm

    ST, can you clear up the “13 available scholarship comment” from the “Call the Coach Show?” It seems a bit confusing why on;y 13 available.


  83. westwind November 28, 2012 2:12 pm

    How many of our Warriors won’t be back due to not having their scholarships renewed? Is this what is refered to as a normal practice?


  84. westwind November 28, 2012 2:16 pm

    Will Mack’s recruits who have been deemed unsuitable for the new system not get their scholarships renewed?


  85. d1shima November 28, 2012 2:24 pm

    Will the Sun Belt Commish be in attendance on Saturday? ๐Ÿ‘ฟ


  86. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 2:25 pm

    Only 13 or so are graduating this year that will leave behind their scholarships. That probably also means that the Warriors already have 85 scholarship players on their roster, so they can only offer scholies equal to the number of graduating seniors…unless..

    some of the existing scholarships are not renewed for another year…

    The other alternative is a medical retirement.

    Hopefully we’ll get some gray shirt candidates that will put off their enrollment till Jan. 2014, so that they can be counted for the next academic year.


  87. Manoa Mist November 28, 2012 2:41 pm

    23. WarriorMojo:

    November 28th, 2012 at 8:42 am

    Gonna have to agree with AGrease and Kekoa from yesterday’s blog re Teo. Don’t know the guy at all, but every once in awhile I see something that makes me wonder how much of his image is real and how much is just manufactured.

    He is clearly very media savvy or is getting advice from someone who is, but I remember some questionable/dirty stuff he did on the field in high school, his alleged recruiting indulgences on his campus visits, his nasty comments about Mack and Pete Carrol, when neither guy was able to defend himself. In fact just last year he made those controversial Twitter remarks about Coach Kelley, implying that he didn’t support the coach and was only playing for himself and his boys.

    Just not buying the Manti Teo as the gridiron version of a cure for cancer just yet.

    ————————————————————————————-Perfect example of crabs in the bucket pulling down a local brother who is shining on the national scene. You three should be ashamed of yourselves.


  88. obachan November 28, 2012 2:42 pm

    looks like Independent Thinker does not tolerate independent thinking


  89. WarriorMojo November 28, 2012 3:10 pm

    Re #87

    “Ashamed?” Why? For stating my opinion? For not buying into the hype? For refusing to put Manti on a pedestal?

    He’s a very good football player with as many human flaws as anyone else, despite what his hype machine would have you believe.

    I’m just not ready to worship at the house of Saint Manti yet. You go on without me.

    “Pulling down a local brother”, pft. THAT says a lot about where you’re coming from.


  90. tommui November 28, 2012 3:12 pm

    #58 and #69 (madeinhawaii):

    As I read your postings, scholarships are only good for one year (unless renewed) and cannot be revoked except for certain reasons.

    But if the school is not going to renew his scholarship, he must be given a hearing – question: what kind of defense can he/she give to prevent a revocation of that scholarship?


  91. Diogenes Sinope November 28, 2012 3:17 pm

    “Pulling down a local brother who is shining on the national scene”

    Lot of this was done on TWB in the previous election. ๐Ÿ™‚


  92. manoa#1 November 28, 2012 3:28 pm

    i told you guys a couple of weeks ago chow gave some the the boys their walking papers off the team. tachibana and graves are 2 of them. funny he reinstate tachibana for the last 2 games then cuts him off the team come next year. chow is a dickhead.!!!


  93. RedZone November 28, 2012 3:28 pm

    I voted for Johnny Football.


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  95. Shoko November 28, 2012 3:58 pm

    I read that Western Kentucky (Sun Belt) and New Mexico State (Independent) were possible invites to join CUSA, but it appears they might have to wait for another shift in conference alignment.


  96. Shoko November 28, 2012 4:02 pm

    Boise State might upset #11 Creighton.

    Boise 66 Creighton 56 with 7 minutes in the 2nd half.


  97. Annoddah Dave November 28, 2012 4:08 pm

    @#85, d1: If he is, I wonder what kind of reception he would get if it was announced at Aloha Stadium. Maybe he should be invited for the coin toss?


  98. RedZone November 28, 2012 4:16 pm

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  99. wafan November 28, 2012 4:22 pm

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    100.


  101. wasabi November 28, 2012 4:25 pm

    #92…absolutely 100% I’ve seen your posts and everything you’ve said is true. This wall of denial and the whole poor chow thing is getting ridiculous…he has done a lot of damage all the while telling the public how great these guys are. Definition of wolf in sheep’s clothing! The players dont trust anyone at Manoa.


  102. wafan November 28, 2012 4:46 pm

    Very off topic but worth it.

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  103. PurpleMaple November 28, 2012 5:02 pm

    So basically the recruiting effort for Hawaii is almost over as they have eleven verbal commitments to date for 2013. That means they won’t be getting a bunch more offensive linemen recruits beyond Wa’a’s verbal. Or, they could drop, not renew, several existing players’ scholarships. This will be interesting. Graves and Tachibana already informed? Wow.


  104. 3-Prong November 28, 2012 5:02 pm

    It is the coaches job to use scholarships to put the best kids in green uniforms that year, that give the team the best chance to win. When new kids come in they themselves may have caused another individual to lose a scholarship or a place on the roster.As the talent pool improves, less talented players or players that don’t give value to the team fall off. Thats how it works gang. Do good hard working kids lose spot? Unfortunately yes sometimes, but it is no different than any other Div1 program. Good coaches assist those kids in finding schools that will allow them to have success and get a good education. It may sound cold but its just a business decision.


  105. cincodemayonnaisse November 28, 2012 5:09 pm

    If guys can’t provide proof….WITH two sides of a story. IMO DON’T POST.

    Be responsible.

    To post “I heard this” or “I heard that” is nothing more than slander. Players get let go every year, sad but true. Lest we forget…..every coach from Tomey to JJ didn’t ask players back. Ask the QB’s at SMU how that works out when they got a Texas transfer…

    What about Austin?….Mo wouldn’t have had his shot if not….Malcolm Lane?…..and the list goes on.

    If you’re gonna throw out the “wolf in sheep’s clothing” accusation. Throw up some examples that can be followed up with and verified. After all….we do have the most informed behind the scenes guy ready to do his job right here monitoring his blog…

    Go ahead….list some truths so we can blow this thing wide open. Just not asking a player back that doesn’t fit into future plans does not constitute wrong doing. If we got a coach locking players in dark closets for a day or two we need to know.

    If not keep it to yourself and take the gossip to Aunty Marialani’s porch where it belongs.


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  107. Former UH Athlete November 28, 2012 5:36 pm

    Interesting, I thought #15 (Brennan’s old #) would have a higher auction price… $210 seems cheap for game worn jersey.

    #1 (game worn) is doing well. As it should… The #1 jersey has had several pro players, or soon to be, in the past 11 years: Travis Laboy (2001-3), Grice-Mullen (2005-7), Greg Salas (2008-10), Mike Edwards (2011-present) have all worn #1. Only Mike Bass (2001-4) didn’t make it in pro ball after wearing #1.

    .

    .

    .

    Best value on the Wounded Warrior Jersey auction board: Pisa Tinoisamoa’s old #10 is only $120 now.

    2nd Best Value: Jeff Ulbrich’s old #44 ($110 & $280 for game worn)

    How is there no #14 for auction (Timmy Chang’s old #)???


  108. wasabi November 28, 2012 5:57 pm

    105….It’s more “I experienced “….than I heard….


  109. Kekoa November 28, 2012 6:01 pm

    Crabs in a bucket? Hmmm…sounds like WM and I have ticked off a few peeps. Good! Maybe it’ll make you want to seek out the truth before your hero worship blinds your vision.

    We never said he wasn’t a great athlete, we just don’t buy all the hype. If you ever want to know about anything I post, you can meet me at our gatherings. I don’t hide behind my computer like some folks, besides I’m way too large!


  110. Former UH Athlete November 28, 2012 6:04 pm

    Any time there’s a new coach… there’s going to be roster turnover and attrition. Players 80% of this year’s roster were Mack’s recruits and every time there’s a new coach, there’s always going to be players that don’t get along with the new guy.

    From the effort these guys are giving on the field, it looks like Chow did a good job of not losing the locker room. Look at what happened at Colorado, So Miss, and Arkansas… Those teams completely quit on their coaching staffs. Mike Leach had major issues with the upperclassmen he inherited at WSU and subsequently 19 players were booted or quit from the roster.

    New coaching staffs taking over marginal or bad programs can’t waste scholarships on players not committed to improving the team. Coaches need as many scholarships to get the players who buy into what they are selling.

    UH was out manned, but never out hustled. UH’s problems were talent and injury related, there was never any question in effort and mental toughness.


  111. Former UH Athlete November 28, 2012 6:04 pm

    On the recruiting front, Chow’s doing a good job. I see several nice commitments and there appears to be emphasis on DLine recruiting, which was the biggest weakness in the team. Chow’s already made a splash with local recruits and Tulimasealii is a huge commitment. ST reported that 4 Kahuku players have offers from UH. If Chow can get the captain/leader to commit, I believe the others will follow. Chow has also opened up Utah for recruiting, which is an area where UH never had a major presence before. Also, Chow has better access to LDS players than Mack or JJ.

    UH is unlikely to keep many of the best local recruits because of the evolution of the internet and social media. Schools and recruits now have the ability to see each other much easier than ever before. From the comfort of his office chair, Nick Saban can go on his computer and see film of every good Hawaii recruit through google/youtube.

    Geographic recruiting boundaries aren’t as restrictive as in the past… which helps UH more than it hurts. UH will lose more players to the mainland, but UH can reach far more mainland recruits than in the past.


  112. Kevin November 28, 2012 6:06 pm

    Wafan,

    You got em already? That was fast!

    Go check your email soon, if like be niele…


  113. Bugaz November 28, 2012 6:18 pm

    Those four Kahuku guys going follow the leader alright…Torres


  114. Bugaz November 28, 2012 6:18 pm

    Well I hoping anyway


  115. Bugaz November 28, 2012 6:24 pm

    Country boys doing their part to protect da สปฤina, hopefully some city boys have a change of heart maybe and jump on board


  116. Bugaz November 28, 2012 6:26 pm

    Or country boys that go school in da city


  117. SteveM November 28, 2012 6:57 pm

    Looks like the 2006 USCG helo rescue swimmer movie, The Guardian, is on KXPO (Oceanic 27) at 8:00 pm. Kevin Costner. One of my favorite Coastie pics. ๐Ÿ™‚

    Leahey and Leahey is on now too…


  118. Warrior Dave November 28, 2012 7:08 pm

    What person doesn’t have flaws? I just pick my heroes for what I can see they did on the field and how they react in front of people both on and off.

    That’s why I am such a big fan of Colt and Manti. My own opinion and my own choices. Isn’t America wonderful


  119. kapakahi November 28, 2012 7:11 pm

    #92,

    Just confirming that…..DG among those not invited back after this season.


  120. el burro sabio November 28, 2012 7:19 pm

    You don’t like seeing players lose their scholarships? All of us who demand and expect wins are guilty of causing that to happen.


  121. Chicken Grease November 28, 2012 7:21 pm

    Appreciate the citation, Manoa Mist, # 87. Doh-Doh-Don’t. Don’t believe the hype. Hate to mix metaphors here, but, Teo fans give off a same vibe as MC Hammer fans as well. The rest of us Public Enemy, Ice Cube fans-ish, dig?

    Staying put?

    November 28th, 2012

    By Stephen Tsai

    Look at the Avengers. Not everyone can be Thor. Somebody has to be the Black Widow.

    Hey, now. Well, the comic book version of Black Widow is equipped (Lord-ah mercy is she equipped. Oh! Um) with a wrist weapon that fires projectiles; this ordnance is known as the Widow’s Bite.

    Say, if Odin needed to take down Odinson and said Father, somehow, had only The Black Widow by his side top help dispatch the God of Thunder, the sky-father of Asgard could easily enchant Natalia [Natasha] Allanovna Romanova’s specialized weapons (one on each wrist[!]) with the express goal of defeating a Thor.

    That all having been said, um, between the two, uh, a Grease would rather be Thor. For obvious reasons.

    Nerdness rules. Everything else is just panic. ๐Ÿ˜‰


  122. Kekoa November 28, 2012 7:38 pm

    Well said Warrior Dave.

    A Grease is treading the lite fantastic.


  123. Kevin November 28, 2012 7:42 pm

    el burro sabio Says:

    November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    You donโ€™t like seeing players lose their scholarships? All of us who demand and expect wins are guilty of causing that to happen.

    THANK YOU!!!

    The things that happen in college football today is all due to the demand. Been saying the same thing for years now…

    From the NFL holdouts and striking unions to college football head coaches losing their jobs etc.. The football landscape and business practices are all in reaction due to the demand set forth by the FANS.

    I am guilty as much as anyone else that wants to see progress.

    Football is the big money maker and it has to succeed. I also support other sports but I know its football that has to make the money and there is pressure to make that money via wins.

    Those are the rules, so accept them for what we all have had a hand in.

    You make something such a big deal, you create a monster you cannot stop.


  124. Kevin November 28, 2012 7:45 pm

    Most sensible comment Ive read all day:

    el burro sabio Says:

    November 28th, 2012 at 7:19 pm

    You donโ€™t like seeing players lose their scholarships? All of us who demand and expect wins are guilty of causing that to happen.


  125. manoa#1 November 28, 2012 7:48 pm

    kahuku’s wiley leaning on joining mariotta up in duck country. coaches told him if rb not gonna workout he can switch to outside linebacker which is his original position before playing rb. and he is a bad ass outside Linebacker.


  126. kapakahi November 28, 2012 7:52 pm

    Nice article by ST on Blake Muir in today’s paper.

    BUT the 20 pound weight loss since the season started….with the corresponding loss of explosive strength….is a classic example of the overtraining methods being administered.

    BTW while Wiesehan thought that he was being amusing to BC and the audience on last night’s Call The Coach Show, JMHO that some of his comments were unnecessary…..about some of the current OL players…..like saying that Blake didn’t know how to get into a 3-point stance when he first got to coach him…..especially when it’s not true.


  127. Warrior Dave November 28, 2012 7:59 pm

    Manoa1,

    Thanks for the report. Sad news but he’ll get a good education. Do you think Coach Kelly is staying? Future looks bright on the offensive side but they need to focus on defense.

    Mariotta is a good one that got away. But his talents would be wasted running a pro set offense. Oregon is a perfect fit for him.


  128. Warrior Dave November 28, 2012 7:59 pm

    Manoa1,

    Thanks for the report. Sad news but he’ll get a good education. Do you think Coach Kelly is staying? Future looks bright on the offensive side but they need to focus on defense.

    Mariotta is a good one that got away. But his talents would be wasted running a pro set offense. Oregon is a perfect fit for him.


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  130. cocobean November 28, 2012 8:14 pm

    Sour grapes.

    He wasn’t that good anyway. We can do without people who don’t want to be here. He has character issues. He’s more phony than a three dollar bill…….


  131. d1shima November 28, 2012 8:15 pm

    No Pete Carroll quotes, please!


  132. kev-1 November 28, 2012 8:17 pm

    Why do some of you always sound like you want to scrap? I go back and read some of the posts, and it is ridiculous how sensitive some people are.

    The Manti thing. Some like him, some don’t. Who cares? It sure has seemed to ruffle some people’s feathers. I think he deserves to win the Heisman. That doesn’t make him my hero.

    I think some get so pissed at local kids for not staying home to play for UH, that they completely write them off as bad seeds and assume everything they do is for the hype. Hey, maybe there were some things that happened to taint Manti’s character, but I have never heard about them. And if that’s the case, they must not be important enough to matter.

    If he wins, I will be proud of him as son of Hawaii. If he doesn’t, so be it.

    And by the way, he may not be my hero, and he may not be yours, but if you have read anything about some of the good he’s done, I’m sure there are some kids out there that consider him their hero. And none of us can find any harm or wrong in that.


  133. kev-1 November 28, 2012 8:20 pm

    If that’s true about Graves, that makes me unhappy.


  134. Kevin November 28, 2012 8:24 pm

    kev-1:

    November 28th, 2012 at 8:17 pm

    Why do some of you always sound like you want to scrap? I go back and read some of the posts, and it is ridiculous how sensitive some people are.

    These are grown men in like their 40’s and 50’s.

    Sad yeah?


  135. 3-Prong November 28, 2012 8:24 pm

    74 Rodney: In memory of my good friend Dean Y who once told me “If can, can…..If no can, Good…pass me a Bottle”. (Dean was a Big Time Warrior Fan too)


  136. HEINEKEN November 28, 2012 8:25 pm

    125:

    Wily will go on his mission right out of high school. Only BYU & Arizona has promised him a scholarship when he returns. Thats why the schools have been backing off.


  137. manoa#1 November 28, 2012 8:26 pm

    warrior dave i don’t know about coach kelly. i work with mr,wiley and that’s what he mentioned today.


  138. HEINEKEN November 28, 2012 8:26 pm

    ^^^

    Sorry I meant UH & BYU


  139. Kevin November 28, 2012 8:27 pm

    I want Te’o to win the Heisman, then want Notre Dame to fall on their okoles for the BCS Championship Trust Award. ๐Ÿ˜†


  140. HEINEKEN November 28, 2012 8:28 pm

    Manoa#1

    Oh wow thats nice if Oregon offers him. But I been told by North Shore natives that he was gong on a mission out of high school. But thats what im relying on. You talk to him hands on so I best believe you


  141. Kevin November 28, 2012 8:31 pm

    Psst. I work with Peyton Manning and he will retire tomorrow.

    (damn that was easy.) ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†


  142. kev-1 November 28, 2012 8:33 pm

    kevin #134

    Yes. You know, my wife often asks me why I watch (or used to watch – haven’t in awhile) sports banter shows, like PTI or First Take etc. I told her it is because I appreciate when people are allowed to have different opinions and the banter can make it interesting and entertaining (for me at least).

    There are certain posters that can read something that they disagree with and I know they are OK on the other side of their computer screen. But there are others that I think may be throwing furniture or slamming things on their desk.


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  144. Waikiki Warrior November 28, 2012 8:43 pm

    I think it is wrong what Norman Chow is doing to David Graves


  145. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 8:54 pm

    Too much junk on my desk to chance throwing anything…


  146. madeinhawaii November 28, 2012 9:11 pm

    might get lost…


  147. al November 28, 2012 9:12 pm

    so…little birdies have said that there is a back story that the coaches, players, and media will not speak of, hint at, nor print.

    what do you do when a scholie player has an extreme difficulty learning the system?

    what do you do when you offer to have him try to learn another position only to run into the same dilemma?

    what do you when you try to help said scholie athlete by having him be productive on the scout team so he can remain an a native member of the team only to have to encounter one distraction after another?

    what do you do when a scholie athlete then does not show up for practice? okay, a whole week of practice?

    you gotta know the rest of the story before you lay judgement?


  148. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 9:14 pm

    Paul Harvey lives on =)


  149. nanakuli November 28, 2012 9:25 pm

    I wish I knew the rest of the story?


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  151. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:31 pm

    Did the birdies talk recruiting as well?


  152. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:33 pm

    What do you do when all the top athletes want to stay home and only get 13 schollies?


  153. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:34 pm

    I can dream


  154. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:36 pm

    What do you do when it’s Wednesday night and you want it to be game day Saturday? Or LOI day in February?


  155. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:39 pm

    Whatcha gonna do when the Machi Man Randy Savage…


  156. al November 28, 2012 9:41 pm

    I hear we are in the running for a number of the top recruits…at least they haven’t said no.

    we already have 4 commits.


  157. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:41 pm

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  158. Bugaz November 28, 2012 9:42 pm

    Thanks for all the inside scoops


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  160. Kekoa November 28, 2012 9:53 pm

    What a country huh Kev-1! Just like the word on the back of my Wounded Warrior jersey *FREEDOM.*


  161. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 28, 2012 10:02 pm

    I had to look back at some of the comments from the Na Koa luncheon by Chris Demarest because the “13 available scholarships” sounded a bit off.

    At the luncheon on 10/15, Demarest stated they are expecting to have available scholarships in the high teens 17,18,19.

    Things may have changed since then but at the time he seemed quite confidant with that number.


  162. Tapuaora November 28, 2012 10:26 pm

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  163. greenthumb November 28, 2012 10:29 pm

    102. wafan — thanks to you and your students for supporting active-duty service people!!! If they really are looking at filling 20 boxes, here are some USPS shipping hints from our donation drives for Operation Paperback.

    First, get the largest size flat-rate boxes because the cost per cubic inch is lower. Second, try for an APO or FPO recipient address — this keeps costs down and you can use the domestic maximum weights, not the international rates, which are lower. Third, sign up for an account at USPS dot com and print out your mailing labels there. You will save at least 15 percent, which means the savings will pay for shipping another box or two; and you will get free delivery confirmation. Even more OT, people who support Operation Paperback or similar drives, like the school shoeboxes, check into the “forever” stamps for flat-rate boxes. I haven’t seen this postage but if you can afford to buy the stamps now, you will save money mailing next year. ๐Ÿ™‚


  164. Chicken Grease November 28, 2012 11:41 pm

    iwonderwhytheyhateme:

    November 28th, 2012 at 10:02 pm

    I had to look back at some of the comments from the Na Koa luncheon by Chris Demarest because the “13 available scholarships” sounded a bit off.

    At the luncheon on 10/15, Demarest stated they are expecting to have available scholarships in the high teens 17,18,19.

    Things may have changed since then but at the time he seemed quite confidant with that number.

    Wait. You’re gonna trust these #s mentioned . . . at a luncheon? Uh. A Grease figures the final # will be determined in some office or board room. You know!?!? Opining here.

    The # will settle according to circumstance.


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  167. Moocher November 29, 2012 12:37 am

    it still amazes me that people think chow is doing things to hurt players.

    people who are educators, and a coach is an educator, tend to start everyone with an A. Whether or not a person keeps that A is entirely up to them.

    the thing is, with change comes people who resist, and people who assist.

    go warriors.


  168. Kekoa November 29, 2012 1:52 am

    Wafan ~

    In every conflict that our military has been thrown into, the mail channels always included personal contributions from patriots like you. I wish you could see what it’s like on the receiving end. The long term effect of strangers sending simple necessities to fellow Americans is really something to behold.

    My Pops/Myself/My Son/My Daughter ~ We all thank you for what you are doing during the holiday season as grateful recipients of such bounty during the dark days of our individual past conflicts.

    I’m looking forward to your return for your annual summer break from the Pacific Northwest. We can hang out at Warrior practice sessions, cattle calls, and karaoke sessions. (We were lucky enuff to attend the Warrior practice at Hickam this summer!)…The USC game is a possibility for you next trip because I do believe the early season opener will fit your return schedule.

    Now if we could just get Chicken Grease to come harmonize with the Tsai-ko Tsingers…


  169. Kekoa November 29, 2012 1:52 am

    Wafan ~

    In every conflict that our military has been thrown into, the mail channels always included personal contributions from patriots like you. I wish you could see what it’s like on the receiving end. The long term effect of strangers sending simple necessities to fellow Americans is really something to behold.

    My Pops/Myself/My Son/My Daughter ~ We all thank you for what you are doing during the holiday season as grateful recipients of such bounty during the dark days of our individual past conflicts.

    I’m looking forward to your return for your annual summer break from the Pacific Northwest. We can hang out at Warrior practice sessions, cattle calls, and karaoke sessions. (We were lucky enuff to attend the Warrior practice at Hickam this summer!)…The USC game is a possibility for you next trip because I do believe the early season opener will fit your return schedule.

    Now if we could just get Chicken Grease to come harmonize with the Tsai-ko Tsingers…


  170. Kekoa November 29, 2012 1:54 am

    Double trouble…


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  172. wafan November 29, 2012 2:31 am

    Good Thursday to everyone!

    One more wake up until the weekend. Yahoo!!!


  173. wafan November 29, 2012 2:43 am

    Greenthumb and Kekoa . . .

    My kids and I have the easy job. Others had the tough jobs. I keep reminding my kids that we would be a lot worse off if not for the sacrifices of others. And that we have to continue to honor them as often as we can.

    Interestingly, this year, some of the kids asked for more information to take home to their families and churches. I sure hope each of them will be able to help spread their aloha overseas.


  174. Kekoa November 29, 2012 3:30 am

    Awesome Wafan!


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  176. d1shima November 29, 2012 5:53 am

    Great Morning All!

    IS IT SATURDAY YET?


  177. d1shima November 29, 2012 5:55 am

    WARRIORS….

    Are You Ready?


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