UH-Wisconsin game to kick off at 6:30 p.m.

UH announced that its game against Wisconsin will kick off at 6:30 p.m. It will be shown on ESPN2.

* * * * *

From UH news release:

University of Hawai‘i men’s volleyball coach Charlie Wade announced the signing of a pair of high school standouts for the 2011 season. Shane Popelka of Chesapeake, Va., and Shane Welch of Coral Springs, Fla., signed their Letters of Intent during the early signing period.

“By signing both players, we addressed our immediate need which is in the middle,” Wade said. “We’ll lose a pair of senior middles in Matt (Rawson) and Steven (Grgas) and both Shane Popelka and Shane Welch are capable of filling those spots.”

Popelka, a 6-foot-8 middle blocker, is a senior at Great Bridge High School in Chesapeake, Va.. He led his team to the state semifinals last year while earning all-district first team honors. Popelka also stars on the Great Bridge boys basketball team, where he is listed among the top 250 power forward prospects in the country.

“Popelka is a multi-sport athlete who is also a highly rated basketball player,” Wade said. “Once he focuses on just volleyball, he’ll become a really good collegiate player. He’s also a very good student with a GPA of over 4.0.”

Welch, a 6-foot-9 middle blocker/outside hitter, is a senior at Douglas High School in Parkland, Fla., and was named to Volleyball Magazine’s “Boys 34 Underclassman to Watch.” He had 24 kills in Douglas’ regional playoff loss to Spanish River last year. Welch participated in the 2008 USA Volleyball High Performance team and plays club ball with Ocean Bay. He was also named to the 2009 Junior Olympic all-tournament team.

“Welch is considered one of the top middle prospects in this class but he’s not limited to just the middle,” Wade said. “We see him potentially as a six-rotation scoring player and we’re fortunate to sign a player of his caliber as he was heavily recruited by other programs.”

The late signing period is in April and Wade expects to sign a few more players at that time. The 2010 men’s volleyball season begins in January.

* * * * *

Quarterback Shane Austin is today’s guest on the Warrior Beat Show, which begins at noon.

Austin will answer questions posed on this blog or the show’s Cover It Live section.

Please join us.

* * * * *

It appears Jerry Glanville’s days in Portland were doomed because of a struggling offense. Glanville will survive. He’s a sharp guy, with a lot of contacts. Our wishes are with Craig Stutzmann, who also was let go.

* * * * *

Guess who would rather play in Hawai‘i?


* * * * *

A moment of silence for the passing of Ken Ober, host of “Remote Control,” the greatest game show. Ever.



  1. bb November 17, 2009 10:44 am

    Fun times last night at SSC.

  2. d1島 November 17, 2009 10:44 am


  3. d1島 November 17, 2009 10:45 am

    …to be second, that is! 😆

  4. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 10:47 am

    Sorry for the late post, but we had a lot of interviews to do today.

  5. al November 17, 2009 10:48 am

    now we know why mouse left the program.

    and now he is the mouse that roared.

  6. al November 17, 2009 10:49 am

    any initials on who the interviewees were?

  7. al November 17, 2009 10:51 am

    shane austin…..

    i like what you did on saturday. coming in cold off the bench and just taking control of the team and game like you did. it showed the stuff that you are made of.

    how confident are you in your abilities as well as your understanding of the current version of the run n shoot?

  8. al November 17, 2009 10:54 am

    hopefully, a permanent position opens up locally for craig. i think the team really missed him this year.

    who knows, perhaps the mouse that roared will have enough of a presence and/or influence on the new portland state hire that there may also be a place in the sun for stutz1.

  9. al November 17, 2009 10:56 am

    okay, so i was gonna call you “stone cold” shane austin, but, i imagine that you have heard that too many times already.

    what is your major and when do you expect to graduate?

  10. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 10:56 am

    Bryant Moniz
    Leon Wright-Jackson
    Aaron Kia
    Raphael Ieru
    Ray Hisatake
    John Estes
    Greg Salas
    Jon Medeiros
    Jovonte Taylor
    Dustin Blount
    Fetaiagogo Fonoti
    Vaughn Meatoga
    Rocky Savaiigaea
    Liko Satele
    Blaze Soares
    Corey Parades
    R.J. Kiesel-Kauhane
    George Daily-Lyles
    Kawika Ornellas
    Spencer Smith
    Lametrius Davis
    Jeramy Bryant
    Scott Enos
    Alex Dunnachie
    Chris Tormey
    Nick Rolovich
    Gordy Shaw

  11. al November 17, 2009 10:59 am

    being number two is tough. not getting as many reps as you would like to can make being thrown in to the fire a precarious situation. however, you seem to handle the pressure well.

    what mental preparedness do you do to get yourself ready for each game, knowing quite well that you may not even get on the field?

  12. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:00 am

    Wow- that’s a lot of interviews, ST!

    Shane Austin – Thanks for being the “up” guy on the sidelines all this time and now the “go to” guy in the games! Are you going to warm up and keep warm in the cool California air this Saturday?

  13. Slugger November 17, 2009 11:01 am

    Good luck to Craig Stutzmann!

  14. al November 17, 2009 11:01 am

    st….looks to me more like you were taking a poll rather than interviews.

    thank god for tape recorders huh?

  15. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:01 am

    Shane Austin – how would you describe the evolution of the Warriors from the start of this season to now?

  16. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:03 am

    Shane Austin – if you could create a slogan for the Warriors that describes how you feel as a team right now, what would it be?

  17. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:04 am

    Onwards and upwards for Stutz and Glanville!

  18. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 11:06 am

    That’s what happens when they cut interviews off after today.
    Jason Kaneshiro from the Star-Bulletin interviewed even more people, I think.
    Actually, it’s kind of cool. Because of the slow start, there are fewer reporters out there. I think they’re ready to give Slugger a press pass.

  19. al November 17, 2009 11:08 am

    Guess who would rather play in Hawai‘i?

    gosh for a moment i thought you were talking about the running back.

  20. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 11:15 am

    Patience, Al. Patience.

  21. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:15 am

    ST- hoo-wee – makes up for the 3 wishes/questions after the game on Sat!

    Slugger is a Warrior resource just waiting for an opportunity!

    It’s amazing how well-versed and well-equipped some of our Tsai-kettes are. Not to mention enthusiastic, take-no-prisoners supporters!

  22. poa November 17, 2009 11:16 am

    Amazing to see what June did in 2 years for SMU and what Mack has done to our program in the same time.

  23. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:20 am

    Shane Austin – If you were guaranteed 3 Warrior wishes, what would they be?

  24. al November 17, 2009 11:20 am

    patience…yes i know.
    actually there is another running back slash linebacker type up north who may be interested in aloha stadium. perhaps he will visit in two to three weeks. more of an ilaoa type athlete.

    oh, did you hear about the kapolei kids? hopefully we can keep the tradition of wooing at least one of their studs.

  25. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 11:21 am

    How good is the CUSA conference, anyway?

  26. poa November 17, 2009 11:21 am

    it’s nice to see Glanville step down for the betterment of the PSU program and not stick around to just get the paycheck. I think Tomey and Jerry really show how much they care about the schools they worked for because they knew they weren’t getting the job done. If only more people would be like this.

  27. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:31 am

    Winning is good in college football but TALENT DEVELOPMENT is what I think defines a good coach.

  28. Kapahulu November 17, 2009 11:33 am

    I saw you on TV at last night’s UH Men’s Basketball game making big body with the HULK pose. It was hilarious. It was even funnier in slow motion. I had to replay that one about three times. Good to see the crowd into the game.

  29. Stretch November 17, 2009 11:35 am

    C-USA would have to send a team to the Hawaii Bowl anyway. Easy for SMU to fly American direct to Honolulu

  30. hodge November 17, 2009 11:36 am

    Lets see if Mack keeps his word and finds a place for stutz1. were he should be, HERE AT HAWAII.

    come on Mack, time to take care of a local boy!

  31. al November 17, 2009 11:39 am

    this sjsu game looms larger that one could imagine.

    two things.

    it keeps our streak alive and continues our hope for a miracle bowl appearance.

    a win impacts attendance for the navy game. win>40k+ or lose<30k.

    in recruiting issues, a late miracle comeback by the team would do wonders. 40k+ in the stands for both navy and wisconsin creates a great atmosphere as compared to the 25k we have averaged lately.

    all sales will be greatly impacted. fan apparel, concession money, ppv, gate receipts, and the like. the budget will incur a severe blow.

    beat the spartans!

    (sorry dick)

  32. LOL® November 17, 2009 11:43 am

    Watched Tomey’s SJSU resignation press conference at sjsuspartans.com. He is as usual, ALL class. His “it’s about the people and not the game” is one reason why every city he has coached in, the majority end up respecting him and welcoming him back with open arms. No faking sincerity here unlike some other coaches who really pour it on thick when there are several million reasons to…

    As for JJ wanting to come play in the Hawaii Bowl, I hope he realizes he will also have his fair share of hecklers who will make it known that despite all that he did for UH and how he put up with the apathy and incompetence of HF, the UH and the state bureaucracy, that he still should have bowed out the proper way (ala Tomey) rather than burning bridges and leaving some scorched earth behind. If he had taken the complete high road out, a larger majority would welcome him with open arms just as with Tomey or Wags (who himself could have been bitter after being forced out but he took the high road). While JJ took the program to one of the highest levels, his legacy is marred by the way he left. In that regard, he does not hold a candle to the Tomey or Wagner era at UH in my book. And with McMackin, the jury is still out and we won’t know for sure until 2013.

    George Lumpkin has been a fixture at Manoa because he has been a useful liasion in terms of navigating the sometimes nightmarish bureaucracy and the dysfunctional culture at UHM. That is what happens when you have student assistants workers who then become full time administrative staff once they graduate. What you end up with is an environment where you have people who have never really had work experience elsewhere except in the protective confines of the UH system environment (which is full of nepotism and cronyism). This leads to a narrowminded view of how to do things effectively. Bargaining unit 8 (Administrative, Technical, Professional staff within the UH system) is full of incompetent bozos. Anyway, I’m sure he was useful in steering folks around the usual office politics like warning others in the earlier days about being careful around that previous old witch of a ticket manager (Edith Tanida; the one with her office in a freakin vault where the tickets were kept). I believe he is also the one who cracks the whip in following up on the athletes academics. This is in addition to his coaching duties and from what I gather, he does not mind doing this administrative sort of tidy work. In short, he serves a useful purpose of doing the thankless mundane tasks which many don’t see. I hope he retires gracefully though (i.e. knows when it is time to do what is best for the program and go out on his terms).

    WRT coach Miano, with all these upcoming opportunities (PSU, SJSU, UNLV, etc), Miano who in his mind wants to one day be the UH HC should prove he is head coaching material by taking on and building a smaller program on his own. The above three schools are perfect opportunities for him to make a name for himself. His desire to not coach anywhere else except Hawaii should not be an excuse when he is at the perfect age to show the needed initiative and desire to display he has what it takes. Having the title of associate HC should not be used as a substitute. If he cannot sacrifice a few years to do that, then there is NO WAY I (and many others) would ever support his candidacy for the UH job once McMackin retires. Waiting around the way he is doing isn’t going to win him many supporters with the movers and shakers either because I think we learned from this current experience that the next HC needs to have proven head coaching experience at the NCAA D1 (A or AA) level as a minimum. We don’t need another “continuation” excuse and then elevate someone currently on staff who has never run an NCAA D1 program to learn OJT again.

    Honestly, when McMackin retires in a few years, UH needs to be serious about bringing Niumatalolo home (I’m with postmanke on his “triple option stars aligning” kick). The story of how it all came to be would really create mindshare which money cannot buy. He’ll have several years HC experience under his belt and he may also be contemplating being able to return to the islands (not that he needs it but I for sure am going to try and personally plant this in his ear after the game). I’m sure when we play Navy next week, you will see what he and his coaching staff have been able to do with smaller players who are also not necessarily high on the talent scale. What the Navy guys have is unwavering discipline. The spread option takes even more repetition and split second timing then the R&S and is not an easier system to master by any stretch of the imagination. However, Niumatalolo learned from the best (PJ) and has proven that he (along with former UH QB Ivin Jasper) are able to run the system on their own.

    I’m still not sold that our current coaching staff can make UH a perennial top 25 team teaching their version of the 4-wide R&S let alone, evaluate talent considering the number of walk-ons that are starting over scholarship players (many of whom are JC’ers who you expected to be able to contribute right away). While I am happy with the last two wins (a win is a win), I am also realistic considering they were against two of the worst teams in D1A. Downtrodden SJSU is going to be anything but now with Tomey’s retirement announcement as his players are going to do whatever it takes to send him out with as much victories as possible and so UH will be challenged. But the real telling story as to Warrior football progress will come against Navy and Wisconsin. When a McMackin coached team is scratch and claw close and the wheels are still on the bus at the very end of the game against big name opponents like how Tomey, Wags, and even some vonAppen teams (1997 against ND for example) were, then will I believe that we’ve made serious strides and progress. If we don’t even look composed and competitive, 2010 is going to be one hell of a challenge.


  33. Kaimuki Kid November 17, 2009 11:49 am

    Cannot make practices, have to work but, I do go to games and have since 1976 season till now, through thick and thin. Most miserable game I went to was in a driving rainstorm, I think we played New Mexico Old WAC sometime in the 80’s. No restrictions on tent sizes in parking lot we had a 10′ x 20′ tent so we were pretty dry before the game. We actually left the tent up and went in to the game. After the game we made a lot of new friends, including part of the UH Cheer Leaders who were out in the lot after the game to collect aluminum cans for the squad. Only bad thing was we had to put the tent down in the rain when it was time to go home. We got wet anyway…LOL Crazy UH fans I think only 8,000 showed for the game, probably 38,000 to 40,000 tickets sold. Did I mention it was cold too and the wind blew pretty hard

  34. LizKauai November 17, 2009 11:55 am

    Jeopardy theme….

  35. postmanke November 17, 2009 11:58 am

    If asked, would Mack step down for the betterment of the program? Would they ask? Would it be wise to ask? Should he be asked? ..to me, if you gotta ask… go fix!

    A deeper pay cut in contract year 3 is the least what i am expecting.

    maybe he did not ask for his salary, but don’t ever take what you’re not worth – in my world “hogs get fed, “pigs” get slaughtered. …it never really works out and perceiving the deception will almost always rear it’s ugly head.

  36. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 12:05 pm


    I respectfully disagree with your post. There was no deception. The deception would be in twisting the story and making it seem like Greg strong-armed the BOR and Admins for his pay. Being smart and in the right place at the right time is good luck and I wish it would happen to me more often than not.

    And really, I cannot see how Mack stepping down would benefit the team at all.

  37. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 12:08 pm

    maybe the 48-hour rule should apply towards Mac’s salary as well… sheesh… I could qualify for food stamps but I’m really happy for Mack and what he was able to get. Maybe I’ll get as lucky, eh? It’s one of those American dreams come true.

  38. d1島 November 17, 2009 12:21 pm

    ….not really likin’ the Boy Band video stuff!

  39. Palolo November 17, 2009 12:23 pm

    Coach Mack doesn’t need problems from UH supporters. He needs people to come out to the game and cheer for the Warriors. Mack will be smart if he gets Coach Tomey to replace Tormey as the special teams coach. Tomey always had great special teams and that has been our weakness the last two years. Tormey can become the UNLV coach so we can beat them every year. Joke.

  40. J November 17, 2009 12:40 pm

    At UCR, waiting for the Rainbow Wahine game to start…

  41. d1島 November 17, 2009 12:47 pm

    Good show.
    Aside from the tech issues, that is.

    Mahalo Shane Austin!

    Mahalo Wai and Tsai!

  42. LizKauai November 17, 2009 12:48 pm

    J- cheer for us too!!!

    Good job on the video today… interview was fun but the feed had lots of technical – audio challenges throughout.

    Hi Ho!

  43. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 12:53 pm

    The Leonids meteor shower is an annual astronomical event when our planet enters a meteor field created from debris left behind the comet Tempel-Tuttle. The meteors can be observed in November; in 2009, the expected peak is November 17.[1] It’s predicted that this year’s shower will produce upwards of 500 meteors per hour[2] so don’t miss out!

  44. postmanke November 17, 2009 12:54 pm

    re 36 – MIH – let’s just say we have an example.. wont happen anytime soon but.. it will eventually =)

    Kenny N is avail and wanting to come home. he opts out of his contract – pay’s whatever… JD says to Mack coach, to help the long term future of the program, may you step aside so we can get Kenny in here and lock him in before he is a $2 million a year guy… now to me that is for the betterment of the program.. if you cant understand and see the benefit in something like that then gold bless you.. =)

    but many understand and have vision and aren’t afraid of the dynamic’s and investment to change for the betterment of the program.

  45. J November 17, 2009 1:01 pm

    UH 06, UCR 11
    15:27, 1st half

  46. postmanke November 17, 2009 1:01 pm

    I know we dont have the money, we dont have the money.. BS, let JD work his magic, lobby willy to get Kenny like money from the right boosters and it will happen… maybe not this year or next or the next… but it will!

  47. A-House November 17, 2009 1:03 pm


    auwe, we live in the Windward side and get uku pile clouds at night so no can see “showa”.

  48. postmanke November 17, 2009 1:07 pm

    oh speaking of “astronomical event” =)

    the triple option contracting stars will align and once again the WAC Universe will be ours!

  49. A-House November 17, 2009 1:08 pm


    your last post indicate that you maybe closer to Kenny N than most of us.

    how about Coach Mack stays as the HC/DC and Kenny comes in as the OC/Associate HC? Kenny is in his 2nd or 3rd year as HC?

    Mack controls the defense and Kenny controls the offense enhancing the probability that Kenny will eventually take over as HC.

  50. chawan_cut November 17, 2009 1:09 pm

    i’m still awake!

  51. A-House November 17, 2009 1:11 pm

    Any idea when we can watch today’s WB replay? Went over to the WB and they still show chat with LWJ.

  52. J November 17, 2009 1:13 pm

    UH 14, UCR 19
    10:04, 1st half

  53. A-House November 17, 2009 1:20 pm

    Thanks, J!

    Com’on Wahine, you can do it!!!!!!!

  54. J November 17, 2009 1:26 pm

    UH 23, UCR 29
    3:55, 1st half

  55. J November 17, 2009 1:37 pm

    UH 32, UCR 38
    End of 1st half.

  56. postmanke November 17, 2009 1:42 pm

    A-house, for what it’s worth, =) according to an Annapolis area sports reporter that know’s Kenny very well… (by the way, this is sorta classified information, and very unresponsible by me ) has told me that he has the strong feeling, ( i dont know if it was asked in one of many interviews or asked while playing golf )
    – that the triple option will be coming back to Honolulu.

    maybe it was supposed to be interpreted as on 11/28? but somewhere or another, the words “contract” “strong commit” “$$$$” “move” “home” was used.. again, (i got excited too) but only take it for what it’s worth..

    I’m sure he’ll be asked countless times during the week he is here.. oh hey btw, can he get booked as the chat guest that week?

  57. J November 17, 2009 2:00 pm

    UH 37, UCR 42
    15:57, 2nd half

  58. LizKauai November 17, 2009 2:07 pm

    The day of the Shanes!
    Welcome to Warrior Volleyball!

  59. J November 17, 2009 2:09 pm

    UH 41, UCR 42
    12:38, 2nd half

  60. LizKauai November 17, 2009 2:10 pm

    Let’s Go, Basket Wahine Bows!

  61. d1島 November 17, 2009 2:13 pm

    Basket Warrior Bows? 😕

  62. LizKauai November 17, 2009 2:21 pm

    6:30 for the Wisconsin game, eh?
    Thanks, ST!

    d1- Basket WAHINE Bows… playing in America…

  63. J November 17, 2009 2:26 pm

    UH 49, UCR 53
    5:53, 2nd half

    UH tied it for a moment at 43 with 11:08 left…

  64. Slugger November 17, 2009 2:28 pm

    J ~

    Thanks for updates on the Wahine BB score. GO BOWS!!! Looks better already than last year.

    Kaimuki Kid ~

    How do you know that Dunnachie practices with his helmet on if you haven’t gone to practices? Just wondering… Guess it depends on what you deem ‘practice’ to be. He’s good, though….

    What’s impressive to watch are Alex Green & Inoke Funaki running gassers at the end of practice with their helmets on carrying a ball. Most of the guys take off all extraneous equipment & jerseys.

  65. J November 17, 2009 2:32 pm

    UH 53, UCR 55
    3:11, 2nd half

  66. J November 17, 2009 2:37 pm

    UH 60, UCR 56
    0:45.6 left in the game

  67. A-House November 17, 2009 2:38 pm


    it would be awesome if ST can get Coach N as a chat guest next week, but he may be to busy!

  68. A-House November 17, 2009 2:38 pm

    Go Coach Dana and the Wahine!!!!!!!!!

  69. J November 17, 2009 2:41 pm

    UH 62, UCR 56
    0:17.6 left in the game

    Both teams in double bonus

  70. kama krab November 17, 2009 2:41 pm

    Come on baby.

  71. LizKauai November 17, 2009 2:44 pm

    LET’S GO, BOWS!!!

  72. J November 17, 2009 2:44 pm

    UH 62, UCR 58
    0:09.7 left in regulation

    UCR has the ball. UH had a great block, but got T’d up.

  73. J November 17, 2009 2:46 pm

    UH 63, UCR 58
    Final Score

  74. postmanke November 17, 2009 2:47 pm

    great job Wahine!

  75. LizKauai November 17, 2009 2:48 pm

    WOO HOO!


    MAHALO, J!

  76. SteveM November 17, 2009 2:48 pm

    Congrats to the wahine Bows and Coach Dana!

  77. SteveM November 17, 2009 2:50 pm

    J — Thanks for the updates!

  78. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 2:51 pm

    Alright!!! Way to go DANA!

    Nice start to both BB programs. Too bad the Kane’s lost last night but They should good fight througout and with the two big guys likely to return befor the WAC season, things don’t look bad at all.

  79. kama krab November 17, 2009 2:53 pm

    Right on Coach Dana, Assistants, and Wahine for a good game.

    Keep up the good work.

  80. A-House November 17, 2009 2:53 pm

    Congtrats to Coach Wade!!!

    What a pair of Shanes who got height!!! The men’s VB team is going to be tall, tall, tall!!!!

    Dang, goin have to buy VB tickets now to see the Shanes and Olfmut (sp).

  81. kama krab November 17, 2009 2:54 pm

    Thanks J for the updates.

    Mahalo Much

  82. Slugger November 17, 2009 2:57 pm

    YAY!!!! Way to go Wahine & Coach Dana!!!

    J ~

    Mahalo for the updates. Glad you could go to the game! I’m sure the Wahine appreciated having you in the stands.

    Good to hear about the two early signers for the men’s volleyball team.

  83. kama krab November 17, 2009 2:59 pm

    Things may be looking up for our beloved Manoa.

    All we need is for the football boys to make a miracle run to the Hawaii Bowl to take on our former ball coach and to totally demolish the ponies.

    Hey we can all wish can’t we. Just don’t wake me up so that my wish can come true.

  84. Ralph November 17, 2009 3:04 pm

    great win for Na Wahine. A memorable beginning for the coaches and players. On to UCLA. Cal State Fullerton mbb beat the Bruins, now its time for the Na Wahine to beat the lady Bruins.

  85. kama krab November 17, 2009 3:04 pm

    Oh and Congrats to Coach Wade.

    Those two look like really big boys and will definitely fill immediate needs since we lose Grgas and Rawson.

    Hopefully we can get a couple more big outsides and a solid setter for the future.

  86. J November 17, 2009 3:11 pm

    For those wondering…yes the team said “Mahalo!” to the Hawai’i fans.

  87. hodge November 17, 2009 3:13 pm

    the triple option will get no linemen recruits EVER. enough of that crappy offence. if you div 1 guys , u need div one schemes. run and shoot is way mo better than triple option.
    people, RECRUITS dont want to play in it!

  88. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2009 3:19 pm

    re #32.

    Exactly. Miano should take an HC job elsewhere, or even a DC position

    at our “level” to prove himself.

    The Portland State job looks like a perfect opportunity; SJSU & UNLV

    also look good.

    Hope he goes for it.

  89. LizKauai November 17, 2009 3:33 pm

    If it ain’t broke, no fix nuttin.


  90. Ralph November 17, 2009 3:35 pm

    thanks for the report J, glad to read that the Na Wahine said “mahalo” to their fans. I hope the fb team and coach mack learn from the Na Wahine, take the time to go over to the crowd and thank them for coming out.

  91. rasu begasu November 17, 2009 3:48 pm

    Nobody should take the UNLV coaching job.
    Trust me.
    No money
    No fans
    No direction
    120 heat during two-a-days
    Local stand out players can’t wait to leave
    Coaches come here to bury their careers
    Nobody in this town cares

    But Basketball, thats another story

  92. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 4:08 pm

    Good job Wahine! Great great great!

    I’m with kama krab. no wake me up till we chewin pony jerky.

    yup, i admit, i get issues!

    plus, i no wen da ka’a get plenny bondo.

  93. LizKauai November 17, 2009 4:13 pm

    hey- bondo ka’a good por feeshing!

  94. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 4:14 pm


    Great Job great job.

    thanks alot for letting us know the Wahine thanked the crowd.

    that means a lot to us, Warrior Nation!

  95. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 4:16 pm

    yup, bondo good for lots of things. especially for make pretty pretty.

    and if our bondo ka’a is still cranking in late December, then, like Nancy Grace, I’ll eat a crow sandwich. 😀

    and if we’re not cranking, then I’ll need someone to hold my hands….


  96. Mr C November 17, 2009 4:18 pm

    A house family. Check your email.

  97. wafan November 17, 2009 4:25 pm

    Close to 100.

  98. wafan November 17, 2009 4:25 pm

    Yay for na wahine!!!

  99. wafan November 17, 2009 4:26 pm

    Thank you J for the updates!!!

  100. wafan November 17, 2009 4:27 pm


  101. wafan November 17, 2009 4:27 pm

    2nd century.

  102. wafan November 17, 2009 4:28 pm

    Good luck to Glanville where ever he lands it will probably be on his feet.

  103. Ralph November 17, 2009 4:30 pm

    Na Wahine stats:

  104. SteveM November 17, 2009 4:30 pm

    The Tsai-kos known to be attending the UH-SJSU game this Saturday have some additions…

    Committed Road Warrior making a cross-country (literally) dash (literally). 😯

    BNS deciding on a last-minute drive up from Los Angeles.

    tom-WarriorNation (San Francisco) and four friends attending the game and checking in for possible get-togethers.

    The listing and other info/tips contributed by the attendees are at:

    Please email me (link on the above web page) if you are attending and please provide lodging, ETA, ticket location, and any plans.

  105. FloridaTed November 17, 2009 4:31 pm

    Wow, Wahine BB, what a turn around. Not only winning, but on the road to boot. Looks like they got themselves a real coach and playing with a whole new spirit.

  106. wafan November 17, 2009 4:32 pm

    Apolo Ono has his picture on an Alaskan Airlines 737. How is Hawai’ian doing with their committee to design their first Warrior jet?

  107. wafan November 17, 2009 4:34 pm

    Back to grading — photo assingments, tonight.

  108. d1島 November 17, 2009 4:35 pm

    I don’t believe that Coach Miano is on anyone’s radar in PDX right now

    Robin Pflugrad, a former Vikings player who has been an assistant at Oregon and now is at Montana is among the top names mentioned as a potential successor. Also thought to be potential candidates are Kevin Strasser, Mark Speckman, Greg Lupfer, Stan Brock, Jaime Hill and Jay Locey among others.

    Strasser is the “Passing Game Coordinator” who left for the CFL to open up a position for Stutzmann; Speckman is the HC at Willamette, known for his “Fly” offense; not sure about the next 3 guys; Locey is the Assoc. HC at Oreg St. who left Linfield after winning the D3 NC in ’04

  109. d1島 November 17, 2009 4:38 pm


    Hope you managed to stay dry last night. More stormy weather headed in tomw., I hear. 🙁

  110. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 4:44 pm

    I don’t think there was anything voluntary about the Glanville and Tomey situations.

  111. d1島 November 17, 2009 4:51 pm

    further, regarding PSU HC search…

    “I anticipate interviewing one or more minority candidates for the position,” Chisholm said

    OR passed a law requiring at least one interview of a minority candidate. Although it takes effect 1/1/10, the PSU AD will follow the intent of the law in this hire.

  112. d1島 November 17, 2009 4:52 pm

    …unless you consider shooting yourself in the foot voluntary?

  113. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 5:19 pm

    I likee LOL.. pulls no punches. gotta be that way if you wanna aspire to be somebody, sometin, sometime, somehow. not gonna do it with 2 stars. need a scrappa! a real honest to goodness scrappa. somebody all of us, and I mean all of us, can look up to, and say, wow, this is a real coach! we’ve had two years to look at ourselves, be grateful for what we got. almost, we can honestly say, hey

    we got a coach! or, are we saying

    we got a coach?

    me, i’m gonna watch, one game at a time…

    so far, so good. i got hope.

    please o please o please!

    my prayer is, i like us go against navy wit our oloz on da line.

    but first tings first!

    Go Warriors!

  114. NYUH November 17, 2009 5:21 pm

    Would love to the Navy coaches bring the triple option back to Hawaii, but I think Rolo has been doing a good job with the QBs and has potential as a play-caller. Next year will be the real test for our current coaching staff as we have some good talent coming back, although probably not Salas.

    How come we don’t hear about Soares’ application for another year?

  115. whitey November 17, 2009 5:22 pm

    Congratulations to Coach Dana and the Wahines for their road and 1st win. That is awesome!!!!!

  116. lopaka43 November 17, 2009 5:36 pm

    Aloha Tsaikos

    Please, please, please don’t bring back the triple option.

    I got spoiled with the June Jones philosophy of they can’t stop us from coming back even if we get down by three touchdowns. Run and shoot, especially when it has a strong run to keep the defense honest, is much more exciting to watch. And I think it has a track record of putting linemen, receivers and at least one quarterback on NFL teams.

    Those Tomey and Wagner ball control, keep the other guy off the field days were boring!!!

    Back to lurking…esme-wooshu

  117. bstunna2002 November 17, 2009 5:44 pm

    Anyone have Coah Mack’s email? I just wanna send my appreciation out to him for sticking it out and wanna give him some words of encourage him to finish out this season strong cause looking at our recruits waiting to get on the field I’m a believer in a 10 wins next season!

  118. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2009 5:52 pm


    It’s available through the UH Manoa home page.


  119. Kazz November 17, 2009 6:03 pm

    STORY TIME!!!!!!!!

    Another successful late night turn out at the Stanley last night. While for the second year in a row, less than 3,000 showed up, it SHOULD be noted that the 2,500 or so that were there created an atmosphere that no other “usual” game night could ever rival.


    I do want to share an incident that almost ruined the night. Me and me buddies got there in our seats (lower B 3rd row right behind the ESPN commentators) with over an hour to spare. With the crowd filling in with about 15 minutes left, some J-E-R-K with his wife tried to start some crap by saying we were in his seats. Right… How the heck can we be in his seats for a game that is G-E-N-E-R-A-L ADMISSION?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

    He didn’t produce any different tickets saying other wise so the four of us didn’t budge. He tried to get difficult which even drew some irritation from an older man in front of us that yelled at this jerk saying “it’s open seats buddy!!!” I don’t know who this older guy was, but he was cool! 😎

    Anyway this punk finally shut up and sulked to his seats further down in our row.

    Overall, despite the loss, we had a great game to watch, with a GREAT crowd on hand, and an almost awesome comeback, but alas you make too many mistakes and you can’t recover from them all.

    This 09-10 edition of the Rainbow Warriors looks to be very entertaining.

    The season is young!!!!!!!!!

  120. Pomai November 17, 2009 6:05 pm

    #117 I agree, but I am of the opinion that there is only a few coaches who can make the R&S work the way we saw it and I don’t think there is anyone better than JJ running it.

  121. Kazz November 17, 2009 6:08 pm


    Hope Coach Dana is keeping the ladies loose, but focused throughout this road trip!

  122. whitey November 17, 2009 6:11 pm

    the name apolo ohno was mentioned and alaska airlines is his major sponsor. another name you will see if you watch speed skating is coach ryan shimabukuro. he is from maui, his dad works for the county and is a very good golfer, and his family is very well known on maui.

  123. Kekoa November 17, 2009 6:14 pm

    Welcome to the 2 VB players signing on to play for the UH Men’s squad.

    Most unusual to have twin towers with the same front name. Everytime I come across someone with that name, I think about that old western movie, “Shane.”

    Goin’ be spooky inside da SSC when 10,000 peeps echo that name, just like in da movie!

    Thanks for your support J…and congrats to the wbb for this big road win!

  124. Slugger November 17, 2009 6:15 pm

    Is the triple option what UoO runs with Masoli? Is that why in one of the UoO games I watched I thought Masoli was not as good as our quarterbacks? Lopaka43’s right, boring…

  125. whitey November 17, 2009 6:22 pm

    UH athletic programs appear to be making huge gains in recruiting for their respective sports.

  126. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:25 pm

    adda know 117, Tomey put a lot of UH players with his “boring” brand of football in the NFL.

  127. el guapo November 17, 2009 6:25 pm

    I may get fried, baked, and cooked for saying this…

    Navy is a very prestigious job. It would be asking too much for Kenny N to leave that position to come home.

    Having said that, next week I’ll have my Beat Navy shirt on.

  128. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:32 pm

    Boring = is watching a bowl game instead of playing in it..

    ..get used to it

  129. Garret November 17, 2009 6:34 pm

    Hasiak update…not only is he not a candidate to transfer to UH or anywhere else, they might actually try to make this year a medical redshirt year for him. He played in UCLA’s 1st, 2nd, and 4th games.

    A rocky season left the freshman unhappy and feeling somewhat lost, so two weeks ago Hasiak went home to Kapolei, Hawaii. And a few days later, he was back on the mainland, ready to resume his college career.

    “Going home helped give me a piece of mind,” Hasiak said. “My thoughts were really clouded. I was thinking very negatively and I wasn’t sure what to do.”

    Stanley Hasiak Sr. helped correct his son’s vision, with further support from Hasiak’s uncles.

    “Stan’s in good graces,” Coach Rick Neuheisel said. “We’re just trying to take things slow with him. We want him to work hard and get himself going again.”

    For now, that means working on the scout team. There is a small chance that Hasiak could get a medical redshirt year, as he has had shoulder and ankle injuries this season.

  130. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:38 pm

    prestigous? lol sorry… then why did paul johnson leave? maybe because it is hard to recruit at a service academy and he wanted the opportunity to contend for a national championship? oh by the way, as boring as it may be he might find himself in that game! Triple Option in Championship game?? say it aint so. – how boring!

    “The Option” is back in college football. Smash mouth football!

  131. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:39 pm

    I hope we beat navy as well! we should blow them away if the game was played on paper…

  132. 808ike November 17, 2009 6:42 pm

    Congrats to Wahine BB.

  133. whitey November 17, 2009 6:46 pm

    paul j left because GA is his home, GA TECH is a BCS school, and the pay was more than what he made at Navy. Navy is still is in good hands and coach Johnson knew that when he left. GA TECH is also a very prestigious school both academically and athletically.

  134. 808ike November 17, 2009 6:46 pm


    Saw U on tv. If not, someone looks like U. Could also be my glasses. haha

  135. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:47 pm

    I’m just thinking, is Paul Johnson really set at Georgia Tech? or does Notre Dame go after him after the season? I think they will…

  136. whitey November 17, 2009 6:47 pm

    playing on paper is a dream. “That’s why you play the game” (sounds familiar)!!!

  137. postmanke November 17, 2009 6:49 pm

    whitey NC is his home. or atleast that is where he is from..

  138. koakane™ November 17, 2009 6:51 pm

    checking in and a good windy evening to the tsaiko country and the warrior fans

    congrats to wahine bball on their first of many wins, to coach dana and staff for a super job of coaching. also to cwade for bringing in some humongous talented middle blockers. shout out to cnash and team for a super effort last night. uh sports looking good for the rest of the school year. finally to all the students that rocked the stanley … all of you were awesome.

    my mana’o on all this talk on fball is that no matter what the system, the coach or the venue bring it on and lets go and enjoy whomever or whatever it maybe. easier said than done as often I am reminded being so habut at times. but after all they are representing the UH friends, 808 family plus the tsaiko’s fans. e kala mai nuff outta here

  139. el guapo November 17, 2009 6:52 pm

    Coaching young men who are choosing to serve their country… I consider that an honor

  140. d1島 November 17, 2009 6:59 pm


    GA TECH is also a very prestigious school both academically and athletically.

    Hope merv doesn’t see that! 😆

  141. Kazz November 17, 2009 7:01 pm


    Might of been me. Me and my friends sat three rows behind the ESPN guys calling the game and before the game tipped off, an ESPN camera man told our area to start going crazy for the lead in clip. Lots of students and people our age near us so it was great.

    I saw the monitor (since we were so close to the ESPN table) and even that cool older guy with the Navy hat got in on the action.

    Great atmosphere. I would have preferred to be in the student section, but two of my friends don’t get to go to a lot of games and they wanted to sit center court.

  142. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:01 pm

    Yes and there is a long line of coaches waiting to coach there…

  143. RedZone November 17, 2009 7:02 pm

    congrats to da wahine. Good to see Dita back in there getting some PT.

  144. Kazz November 17, 2009 7:06 pm

    Even after the loss, if I died last night and that was the last thing I experienced I would have been happy.

    Last night is a BLUEPRINT of how ALL home games at the Stan Sheriff Center should be for all sports!

    If you don’t like the extra noise and people jumping up and down, then stay the hell home!

  145. 808ike November 17, 2009 7:07 pm

    Wonder who the F-ball player that came back to the islands discussed on
    the Coach Mack show.

  146. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 7:08 pm

    the talk about Stanford from Cal:

    “Their style has been built around a terrific football player in Toby Gerhart,” says Pete Carroll, the USC coach. “Coach Harbaugh has captured his opportunity in Toby, and their players have responded to it.”

    It falls to California this week to deal with the Stanford attack. Cal coach Jeff Tedford has had similar offensive lines in the past and appreciates what the Cardinal has assembled.

    “The [best] offensive lines we’ve had are not big, overweight guys that can’t move, they’re guys that can play with low pad level, center a target and not fall down,” said Tedford. “Not only are they big, they’re not sloppy, but they’re in great shape. That’s what I see with Stanford.”

    Tedford was talking about Stanford’s oline. Got me thinking about our oline. besides being big big, they gotta be tuff big.

    which got me to thinking about our Pride. he stayed home. he coulda gone, but he stayed for us, Warrior Nation. and I’m looking at the others who coulda stayed home but went away, whatever, I wish them luck anyway. But theyll never amount to a Pride. Ever.

  147. 808ike November 17, 2009 7:10 pm

    #1 KU almost lost 57-55.

  148. d1島 November 17, 2009 7:13 pm

    Post-Holiday Bowl Wagner’s teams went 6-6, 3-8-1, 4-8.

    In part, his complaint was that rigorous new admission standards handicapped him. IIRC those standards exist today.

    Would Ken N be able to change that?

  149. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 7:16 pm

    I don’t think ND goes for Paul Johnson. If anything I could see Brian Kelly (as the talks now) or I wouldn’t be surprised if someone nudges Mike Shanahan…..(O_O)

    I hate to bat down the triple option but while I cant doubt its effectiveness at Gt this year watching it is really boring. one of those “win games, but not selling tickets” haha.

    One of the guys I know used to have the high powered binoculars that basically put you right up in the faces of the “line”….when June came around he had to buy a more wide angled binocular because the field was spread so much. haha.

  150. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:19 pm


    I guess JJ couldnt get it done.. and if Wagner couldnt, who could?

  151. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:20 pm

    Was there any game this year at tech that was not a sellout?

  152. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 7:22 pm

    The pro-style offense like the Air-Coryell, Air-Raid or even West Coast Offense is always fun to watch. I dont know if we can get the talent for a Spread Option the way Florida and Georgia plays it.

    If we were to deviate from the RnS as JJ professed, bring in someone who worked with the Bill Walsh scheme but an updated version. I guess it’s almost the same as JJ’s in philosophy but utilization of tightends and a pro-set.

  153. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 7:23 pm

    Very accurate comparison of Georgia Tech’s fan base to that of the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

  154. d1島 November 17, 2009 7:25 pm



  155. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:27 pm

    “I hate to bat down the triple option but while I cant doubt its effectiveness at Gt this year watching it is really boring. one of those “win games, but not selling tickets” haha.”

    ..oh selling tickets at Aloha Staduim?

  156. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 7:27 pm


    good one. haha.

  157. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:28 pm

    D1 now i know why we love Mack and his offense so much..

  158. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 7:29 pm


    yes at aloha stadium. i would like to hope and pray it couldn’t be any worse than it is now but fans in hawaii can be volatile.

  159. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:32 pm

    Fans, people have very short term memory, feed em wins and they come no matter what the brand.. that’s all that matters is we win..

  160. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:33 pm


    we have not hit bottom yet..

  161. Jack Flash November 17, 2009 7:35 pm

    I think Oregon runs a spread option offense.

  162. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:41 pm

    like it or not “The Option” is back and many teams will begin to run it in one way or another.

  163. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 7:42 pm


    we run the table, we’re past bottom.
    one game at a time. gotta give Rolo chance. this week first.
    i’m liking his mean tv face.

  164. Jack Flash November 17, 2009 7:42 pm

    or is it read option? I dunno. Lots of offenses being run in college these days!

  165. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:45 pm


    we’re sinking, believe me we’re sinking..

  166. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:46 pm

    we will thread water against bottom tier of the WAC other than that we’re sinking..

  167. d1島 November 17, 2009 7:49 pm


    Aw c’mon! No backtrack, brah!

    “The Option” is back and many teams will begin to run it in one way or another.

    Ken N no use spread option like Oregon’s!

  168. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 7:55 pm

    i wuz gonna write like dat too…

    but when i listen to aunty talk about her gorgeous grand daughter [my cousin’s daughter] and her studly Warrior boyfriend, I gotta talk positive until I see not just da blood on da floor but da dead body too. and we beat sjsu this week, we get to look ourselves in the mirror next week. one week at a time.

    for me, the real question is, what do we say in order to encourage more super studs from Hawaii to stay home? is the right guyz in place to make it happen? and if we can’t answer that question up front now, which i don’t think we can in the open, then better to stifle the 2012 kind thoughts, right?

  169. postmanke November 17, 2009 7:56 pm

    D1 whaat? back track? Oregon?

    “The Option” = Triple Option – i just coined it “The Option” ok “Da Option”

    no backtracking here.. The Triple Option contracting stars will align and the WAC Universe will once again be ours.. please dont make me say it again..

  170. d1島 November 17, 2009 8:05 pm



    Ok. We see….

  171. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 8:07 pm

    I am pretty sure the “spread option” regardless of it being pass heavy (BYU/T-Tech extreme examples) or run heavy i.e. Rodriguez/Meyer/Richt most SEC? can work depending on your talent.

    I think a lot of colleges are playing the spread option offense with emphasis on either or, or a balanced attack like Texas. Not many in FBS play the true true Triple/Double Option run the ball first, second, third, punt kinda deal.

    I’ve always loved a balanced offense of throwing and running…maybe that’s why Texas is my second favorite team. I would have no problem with integrating a tightend into our offense which would then become more of a West Coast Offense than the RnS as JJ did for us. Mostly because it gives us…………options hahaha.

  172. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 8:07 pm

    OK, postmanke.
    Deep breaths. Deep breaths.

  173. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 8:09 pm


    could I take your comment of the “stars aligning” as Boise getting a coach after Peterson leaves who runs the Option offense and then us throwing the ball ‘down their throats’ and taking the WAC universe back?

    haha im jus kidding, no like make trouble =P

  174. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 8:12 pm


    if we were able to get the talent would you be opposed to a spread option w/ emphasis on passing like Oklahoma?

  175. A-House November 17, 2009 8:13 pm

    Came home early from my 5:30p presentation only to see that Liz Chun made NO mention of the VB recruits! How disappointing!!!

    When has UH ever recruited players over 6’8 in 2 consecutive years?? and I don’t mean the “run-of-the-mill” average players. These 3 guys got great credentials and were heavily recruited by the big name schools. Will we get to see a championship banner(s) hanging in the Stan Sheriff soon? It would be an awesome sight!!!

    Like others have mentioned, Hawaii is getting excellent players in various sports and it makes UH sports very exciting. Wonder how the younger high school kids are viewing this change? Maybe, the coaches can bring extra information on UH sports to their sutdent athletes (within NCAA guidelines – ugh, how I hate to mention that!!)

    Someday, would like to see the very best young golfers from Hawaii play for UH men and women teams rather than going to the mainland.

  176. postmanke November 17, 2009 8:14 pm


    I’m a fan of the R/S. I love watching SMU execute. it is fun to watch…

  177. Stephen Tsai November 17, 2009 8:25 pm

    The key is passing. If you can’t pass in volleyball, it limits who you can set.

  178. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 8:29 pm


    you’re right! coverage and acknowledgment of the great job Coach Wade just did in landing those players would help boost the prestige of the program, and give Hawaii something meaninful to cheer about.

    the new era has arrived! celebrating every step forward is a part of the process of a great program.

    so for our part:


  179. postmanke November 17, 2009 8:30 pm

    176 wonderwhy,

    We have to be real, look at where we are at and what is our best chances of winning football games. Everyone know’s when you recruit Polynesia it is power football. keep it homegrown. I believe we can consistently be top 25 with homegrown players on the team. We need to play power football. Hawaii has all the talent, get someone like Kenny in there and I promise you they will stay. – that’s not even an issue.

    We can play any type of football with the right person leading. JJ was a great example. anything short of a genius at his style of football you’re asking for trouble and will have to strain the dept for resources to stay competitive. having someone with no style of football.. you’re likely sink a program

  180. postmanke November 17, 2009 8:32 pm

    plus power guys dont need all that fancy workout equipment stuff.. how perfect!

  181. WatSoEver November 17, 2009 8:37 pm

    Remote Control was the best game show ever?

    You need to get out…. Remote control sucked the big one….

  182. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 8:38 pm

    what are you saying? our program is sinking so Ann Miller’s gonna take over the blog? 😆

  183. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 8:40 pm

    dat wuz so funny. still laughing at myself.

    Ann Miller did a great job hyping the Comeback Kids.
    that was not disrespect, supposed to be a joke. :mrgreen:

  184. A-House November 17, 2009 8:49 pm

    Anyone familiar with the NCAA language about participation with “pro” players that have derailed another UH recruit?

    Too often, I have read or heard USA players touting their playing experience with “pro” basketball or “pro football players. Why are these student athletes immune to the above? Seems like the NCAA is targeting non-USA athletes. Could be wrong!

    OK, now, got to watch The Great Queen Seon Duk on channel 4.

  185. A-House November 17, 2009 8:53 pm


    OK on your #179 and with ear to the rail, hear anything from Coach Wade on the “backrow” recruits?

    Rob25, are you lurking? BTW, saw Coach Wade and his family on Saturday night. They sit in the lodge section in the South endzone.

    We stay in the “yellow” or nose bleed section above them.

  186. bighilofan2 November 17, 2009 8:54 pm

    nite Warrior Nation. see you in da a.m. zzzzzzzzz

  187. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 8:55 pm

    Wanna sell out the Stadium in a few short years? Enforce the Student Activity Fee across all UH campuses and CC campuses and give all students who paid the fees the options of x-number of free game tickets for the asking.

  188. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 8:56 pm

    I mean.. don’t most of the schools that sell out have at least that much going for them?

  189. postmanke November 17, 2009 8:57 pm

    wonderwhy, this is Mike Sanford blaming UNLV.. just to reiterate # 181

    said Sanford, a former offensive coordinator under then head coach Urban Meyer at Utah. “I had high hopes and expectations to bring that level of program to UNLV. I just wasn’t given enough time or enough resources to do it.”

    another example of another coach who is not a master mind at his craft. Another Don Strock of college football.. =)

  190. postmanke November 17, 2009 9:00 pm

    However, he still is a good Offensive Coordinator.. someone will pick him up fast… just not as head coach.. Don Strock

  191. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 9:03 pm

    What I find interesting is that UNLV had their biggest attendance when they played UH at Nevada… not when they played Oregon or BYU. 20% more when they played UH.

  192. LOL® November 17, 2009 9:09 pm

    Sigh…. regarding Mack’s salary, it was a two way street. Remember, Mack was all set to follow JJ to SMU because he wasn’t even a consideration at the time and it made sense. He already had a home and his family in state. The Lee’s were still deciding whether or not to take up JJ’s open ended offer. In the meantime, Reinebold and Miano had tossed their respective names into the hat for the HC job. Miano was backed by the Lee’s as his plan if he got the job would have been to keep the two on staff. What Miano did not have was any serious backing by influential boosters (no surprise there people). McMackin’s name was floated and a deal was brokered by someone influential within the UHAD (not Donovan who was not AD at the time) with the intent of continuity and stability. Behind the scenes, Miano and the Lee’s would support McMackin if he retained them and given promotions (look at what happened after; Miano became associate HC and the Lee’s were named coordinators). Once this was floated publicly and the whole McMackin as HC/continiuty & stability angle gained traction, McMackin tossed his name in with urging by his wife. Reinebold and Miano withdrew their names. Reinebold unfortunately got lossed in the shuffle as he probably did not make it known hard enough that he wanted to stay and thus ended off going to SMU.

    McMackin did all the right moves publicly by pressing the flesh and telling everyone how much he loved the people and its state (this inspite of quickly leaving after one season and following the money and then again nearly set on following JJ back to Texas). When Mack was offered the position, he knew it would be a PR blunder if he kept his family in Texas. Thus, he wanted to commit himself to the state by taking up roots here (would require him to purchase two homes) and as a sign of good faith, he also wanted the university to show a level of commitment to him. Refer back to the videos during that January 2008 timeframe as he states these things publicly. The UH administration knew they were between a rock and a hard place. Offer the next coach too low and they would be subjected to criticism of being “cheap”. Not acting quickly enough and they would be deemed too slow. We’re talking a perfect storm of events considering they had just fired HF and they had an acting AD (Clapp) and a Manoa chancellor (Hinshaw) who had not even been on the job for a year handling this. The guaranteed $1.1 million 5 year contract was UH’s way of answering the commitment McMackin had asked for. No buyout clause plus a stiff penalty should McMackin leave for another head coaching job (a way for UH to protect itself from having the coach poached JJ style). They offered, he accepted.

    No one complained publicly at the time about the terms (no buyout, no performance based initiatives, etc) when they could have to the BOR because face it, there was so much going on within a short period of time and the main issue was getting someone on board as quickly as possible with letter of intent day just around the corner. Little did any of us know what a PR liabiity McMackin has been when he opens his mouth. He still does it; recently dissed ex-Houston coach John Jenkin’s who ran the R&S with Andre Ware there by saying he isn’t a true R&S guy and that Ron Lee was better, sort of dissed Dwayne Walker of NMSU on the call the coach show. Coach tries to be funny but often stumbles and shoots himself in the foot. I think that is the issue some have with him and why his salary comes up. It’s not the $1.1 million but how one expects a coach who commands that sort of salary to represent the school they are employed by. PR is after all one of the important components of the head coaching job. Performance on the field by the team is another. Won-Loss record yet another. I’m sure if the latter two were better, some of his PR gaffes would be excused by those of us critical of the coach. If anything, I would surely love to eat a hefty bunch of crow just to see us outperform anyones expectations and beat the leaving crap out of everyone they play.

    As for Kenny and Navy job being more prestigious…. come on now. Think outside the box. Some things trump and outweigh the prestige and money factor. Tomey came to Hawaii because he wanted to be here knowing full well the obstacles of challenges. JJ came to UH because he wanted to be here. There will be a time when Kenny will feel it is right to come back home and what better way than to build his own long term legacy in Hawaii. The ones with the power and money can make it happen but part of it will really depend on the timing and how Niumatalolo feels.


  193. postmanke November 17, 2009 9:12 pm

    yep Hawaii and Nevada are the largest draws for UNLV. BYU traveled well but not as good as a Hawaii or a Nevada.

  194. Slugger November 17, 2009 9:13 pm

    Excerpt from “A Lifetime of Observations and Reflections” by John Wooden, Steve Jamison:

    Long before any championships were ever won at UCLA, I came to understand that losing is only temporary and not all-encompassing. You must simply study it, learn from it, and try hard not to lose the same way again. Then you must have the self-control to forget about it.

    I’ve also learned that winning games, titles, and championships isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, and that getting there, the journey, is a lot more than it’s cracked up to be.

  195. postmanke November 17, 2009 9:25 pm

    LOL that reporter truly feels it that Kenny wants to come back. however they are hoping he becomes the Fisher DeBarry of service academies for Navy. I just dont see him as a career Navy guy.

    I see it like this.. Kenny leaves for UH, Jeff Monken goes to Navy and Navy doesn’t skip a beat for 3-4 years. Monken leaves for Stanford and Ivan Jasper becomes the head coach of Navy. meanwhile we get back to the BCS and play Georgia Tech in the Sugar Bowl in 2013 and everyone gets to stand in line for Beignets once again!

  196. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 9:30 pm


    it stands to reason that whoever we should choose in the future that they be masters in their craft.

    there are MANY talented “master” OC’s out there that can draw schemes and strategize a potent offense.

    Regarding Utah and Urban Meyer, I may be mistaken but I think he developed most of the plays and schemes while he coached at Utah.

    You and I must agree to disagree…u love the run heavy smash mouth football style. Me I love the balanced run and pass to keep the defense on its feet.

  197. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 17, 2009 9:32 pm

    edit to #198

    Thus when Dan Mullen came to Florida when with Urban the playbook that Meyer had was already thick as a bible.

  198. al November 17, 2009 9:37 pm


  199. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc November 17, 2009 9:45 pm

    One win at a time, ladies and gentlemen, one game at a time.

    Be sure to mark Friday, November 27, on your calendars because Coach Dana and the Rainbow Wahine will play at 5 pm while Coach Bob and the Rainbow Warriors will play at 7:30 pm. Let’s have a whole bunch of Tsai-kos show up!!. Perhaps we can make arrangements for an intermission party downstairs catered by Sodexo (sp).

    Word is that both 2010 diamond sports team are also going to be playing well.

  200. hodge November 17, 2009 10:19 pm

    navy coach. why would we want him to bring that boring offense here. we dont get that many linemen from hawaii now. if we run that triple option, we can count on ZERO. there is not much chance for continuing in NFL. why change what aint broke.

  201. hodge November 17, 2009 10:20 pm

    our offense seems not to be that much of a problem! its our D.

  202. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 10:30 pm


    I don’t see our defense as the problem any more… In the last 4 games now, they’ve provided the Offense with enough opportunities to win. Our Field Goal team needs to up their percentages. What are they now? 8 or 9 out of 16?

    Our Red Zone offense needs to score… I think we dropped over 4 catchable passes in the endzone. Lately, I think the play calling from the 15yd line gets a little too greedy and wants to go for all the marbles rather than get another 1st down. But then maybe it’s because it’s easier to throw from the 15 yd line than the 5.

  203. hodge November 17, 2009 10:32 pm

    good points Madeinhawaii. my main concern is that some fans want to bring in the Navy coach for the triple option offense. to me that is crazy. this high scoring offense is terrific to watch.

  204. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 10:50 pm

    I, too, say we should stick to the RnS. Make it our brand. Make it known to every QBack that wants to throw and master the passing routes that this is one of the very few places to learn. Make it known to every receiver that wants to learn coverage and learn what routes to run on the fly, this is the place to learn. Make RBs that can block as well as run know that this is the place to get noticed. Few can make a statement, those that do, will get noticed.

    Then we get the kind of recruits we want year after year… season after season and we build consistency from that.

    The Years when the Oline and Dline are at their best, our team should be virtually unstoppable.

  205. postmanke November 17, 2009 10:54 pm

    eh Hodge, it aint broke? high scoring? what part of the 79th rank in scoring and 2-5 in the WAC are you not understanding?

  206. Old Diver November 17, 2009 10:57 pm

    Regarding #191

    The game is not won by manipulating the X’s and O’s. Modern day college football is won with aggressive recruiting which requires aggressive fund raising as well aggressive under the table fund raising. SEC teams don’t have recruiting budgets of a million dollars for nothing. Na Koa will raise about a million dollars this year, big time booster programs will raise twenty plus million a year not counting revenues. When people begin to understand the realities of the modern game they will begin to understand the problems Coach Mack has to overcome.

  207. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc November 17, 2009 11:03 pm


    Orleans Arena
    4500 W. Tropicana Avenue
    Las Vegas, Nevada 89103

    Game Times:
    Monday, November 23
    Match 1: Idaho State vs. Seed #6 @ 5 pm
    Match 2: Seed #4 vs. Seed #5 @ 7:30 p.m.

    Tuesday, November 24
    Match 3: Winner Match 1 vs. New Mexico State@ 3:pm
    Match 4: Winner Match 2 vs. Hawai`i@ 7:30 p.m. 5:30 pm HAWAII TIME

    Wednesday, November 25
    Match 5: Championship Match @ 6:30 p.m. 4:30 pm HAWAI`I TIME


  208. madeinhawaii November 17, 2009 11:07 pm

    Old Diver,

    I’m with you. That’s why I want to see JJ succeed with all the facilities, monies, and support he can ask for. I want him to prove without a doubt that all these do make a huge difference and can change the atmosphere of an entire community for the better. And when he’s done that, I’d like to see him and Mack renegotiate for the Coaching positions and program here…

    But only after he’s done that.

    BUT, I also want to see Mack succeed where JJ left off. He has to succeed to keep our lawmakers aware that the RnS is viable, that football can unite a community, and that Hawaii needs a first-class athletic program on all levels. That success there lifts the spirits of our citizens, inspires it’s people and makes us all a little prouder and feeling just a little more “lucky, we live Hawaii”.

  209. postmanke November 17, 2009 11:09 pm

    great, I can see Boise St recruiting team now.. “Son, if you wanna win you come here to Boise St. If you wanna learn routes and passing lanes you go to Hawaii.

    Hawaii recruit team. “Yes come to Hawaii, we’ll teach you how to play 6 different positions, dont worry if you never played them in your life, we can figure it out together. we can teach you. Touchdowns? ahh, we’ll score more touchdowns.. Yep, it aint broke University.

  210. postmanke November 17, 2009 11:14 pm

    208 – dont tell that to Kenny and recruiting. That Modern day coaching phenom has a hodge podge of players that nobody recruits. more than 3/4 of his squad would never make the UH rosters. Dont make excuses, go get what you need, coach em up and win!

  211. Old Diver November 17, 2009 11:17 pm

    The issue of Boise State recruiting has been rehashed before. Boise because of low admission standards can accept students we can’t. Boise can provide them with jobs so they can stay for the summer. Also Boise is able to do monetary things that we can’t do, you know the under the table stuff. We could be like Boise but the media won’t allow that to happen.

  212. Idono November 17, 2009 11:29 pm

    Take it easy on Mack. We don’t want to lose him completely and he leaves the islands and UH after his 5 year stint. If he is true to his words he will live the rest of his life here no matter what happens. Example: Price, Wagner, Lumpkin, Tomey when not coaching on the mainland. If JJ really has Hawaii in his heart he will come back to make Hawaii his home after his stint at SMU, unless the NFL comes calling.

    Give Mack credit for becoming a quick learner. He knew that spending too much time with the offense wasn’t much of a help. He needed to put his expertise back on defense. In doing so the defense is showing signs of improving. Continuing to do this will make Hawaii a good defensive team. Mack just needs to continue to trust his offensive coaches and let them take the reins. Vice versa when an offensive coach becomes the head coach he looks for someone he can trust to run and lead the defense. Head coaches make the major decisions on recruiting needs, game time decisions like going for it on 4th down, kicking a field goal or go for the TD, 2 point conversion, letting his offensive coach know when he wants to eat up the clock, wanting to block a punt. Team rules and discipline and any major administrative decision for the team on and off the field.

    For me it would be exciting to see JJ and Mack working together again at UH. Already having made their millions, take a token salary and spread that money around to all their loyal assistance and let them prosper financially. For the essence of true synergism the potential for UH football to get and stay as a top 10 team year in year out. If they both have losing records for the next 3 years no one would want this scenario but I believe they would make a good combination again as offensive and defensive guru’s doing what they are best at. Two magical years are proof to the pudding.

  213. al November 17, 2009 11:30 pm

    ah the running back.
    he wins the pow award the day before comng to hawaii.


  214. postmanke November 17, 2009 11:33 pm

    208 I dont care how much money you have to recruit, It is all X’s and O’s. You Urban Meyer on this UH squad injury losses and all you think we’d be 2-5 in the WAC? same budget, same players. You really think we’d be 2-5 in the WAC? It’s all X’s and O’s. look up Bowling Green and Urban Meyer dont tell me its all $$$ dont make excuses.. he was 5-0 vs BCS teams at Bowling Green which has a smaller recruiting budget than UH. Stop the non sense and coach em up. stop complaining and get it done!

  215. wafan November 18, 2009 3:51 am

    Good morning everyone!

  216. wafan November 18, 2009 4:08 am

    Lots of what if’s and wishes.

  217. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 5:04 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    reading all of last nites most excellente posts, by some smart buggaz who not afraid of smash mouth editorializing,


    I hoping Coach, or someone close to Coach, issa reading
    LOL’s #194 3rd paragraph.

    ahhhh. good to know UH don’t need a podiatrist to work with a proctologist fo fix our prolems. 😀

    we needa podiatrist to work with a ENT fo fix our prolems. :mrgreen:

  218. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 5:30 am

    The oddsmakers have UH by 3 over SJSU.

    i wonder what Dick Tomey is telling his Spartans to help them try to overcome the oddsmakers’ predictions?

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  219. whitey November 18, 2009 5:40 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Morning bhf2

  220. whitey November 18, 2009 5:41 am

    d1, d1, you going mainland this week, so time to wake up and go to work. hahahaaaa

  221. d1島 November 18, 2009 5:46 am

    Great Morning All!


    We got a pretty good idea of what Tomey will say to his charges; the goal for the Warriors is to come out fast and strong and make him call a timeout and bring his team together on the sidelines and make him say it again! 😈

  222. d1島 November 18, 2009 5:47 am


    Tanks ah! 🙂

  223. Garret November 18, 2009 6:07 am

    I like this headline for this article on USA Today’s website: “The slot: Davone Bess is a non-flashy mark of consistency”

    In the last two games, Bess is averaging five catches and 64 receiving yards.

    For the season, he doesn’t have fewer than three catches in a game.

    Henne either thinks the world of Bess or else he’s the only player on the Dolphins who ever looks open. In the last two weeks, Bess has 21 targets, easily lapping the team. He’s converted those into 10 catches.

    Henne also looked to Bess twice for big gains in the game-winning drive against Tampa Bay.

  224. Kekoa (iPhone) November 18, 2009 6:13 am

    D-1 ~ Are you able to ‘dry’ yourselves off and get ready for some football?

    Have a Ducky day! 😎

  225. d1島 November 18, 2009 6:25 am


    Still on Da Aina. Leaving Thur. so no can dunk da beak til then. 🙂

  226. d1島 November 18, 2009 6:26 am

    Have a terrific day erryboddy!

    Hold on to your hats! Kinda breezy today.


  227. Kekoa (iPhone) November 18, 2009 6:28 am

    Bhf2 ~ You need to make time for a Na Koa lunch. This is a perfect opportunity for you to watch the coach of the week break down game clips and comment.

    Then, with dat winning Hilo smile, you may axe questions like you wuz in da courtroom! Oh…and if you come early, you can sit in da front gel like Bob Ueker!

  228. Kekoa (iPhone) November 18, 2009 6:52 am

    D-1 ~ So you still have time to rent dat Duck Tours landing craft! I saw it rolling down Nimitz just the other day with some wide-eyed touristas on board.

  229. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 6:53 am

    Good morning to you all!

    D1, Kekoa, Whitey, howzit howzit.

    Believe you me, I’d love to go spend one Monday in Honolulu for da Na Koa lunch and axe da kine questions. Unfortunately, da timing is not right now.

    Even though you know I get dat sly kine mind, and I’m thinking what Postmanke and LOL is thinking, I also agree with Idono and LizK

    and mostly, I realize we are all guessing, some more accurate than others, but still, we’re guessing.

    and so my democratic side says: give em chance.

  230. Garret November 18, 2009 6:57 am

    UH is having attendance issues, especially for less attractive games like last week’s NMSU game, and I wish that something innovative could be done to help get more fans at Aloha Stadium. A year or so ago we discussed in this blog how fans could buy season ticket that could be donated to youth groups, but that really isn’t going to make a big difference in the home attendance when it is done individually. The need for chaperones and transportation adds extra complexity to the donation of a ticket.

    SMU was faced with a similar problem for their next home game because it is being played the Saturday after Thanksgiving, a typically low day for their home attendance. That was supposed to be a bye week for them, but a conference member accidentally scheduled 2 games for the same day and SMU ended up having to change their schedule to fix things.

    The last time I brought up SMU here, at least 2 people criticized me right away on the blog, but I’m bringing this up because I would like UH to try to adopt the same program that SMU is doing under JJ. Their program has short term and long term objectives:

    1. Increase attendance for the final home game against Tulane (Saturday, November 28).

    2. Reach out to under-served youth in the Dallas community by providing a rare opportunity to attend an SMU football game.

    3. By targeting these youth groups, we will raise awareness and build loyalty with new young fans. It will also create a positive introduction for possible future student athletes, who might not otherwise choose SMU as a college option.

    Swap SMU for UH and Oahu for Dallas and *everything* in those goals applies to UH’s situation.

    How does the program work? They selected non-profit youth groups (YMCA, Parks & Recreation, Boys & Girls Clubs), which would be easy to find in Hawaii. Each group that participates gets:

    – Round-trip bus transportation for 50 people to and from Ford Stadium. The trip will originate from the youth group’s home location.

    – A hotdog and soft drink at the game for each youth group member.

    – A ticket to the game for each youth group member.

    – Participation in a 15 minute Spirit Orientation prior to kick-off. There, youth group members will be taught SMU traditions and when to make noise at the game (i.e. opponent’s third downs). SMU related prizes will be awarded to the most enthusiastic groups.

    Free transporation and free food would *definitely* get a great response in Hawaii also. I could see buses coming from all over Oahu and no shortage of students who would wish to participate!

    They already have 164 sponsored buses and their goal is for 200 buses–10,000 more people in their stadium for a game. The sponsorship cost for each Bus (including tickets and food) is just $750, so groups like the Tsaikos could definitely sponsor at least one bus (I’m in if UH ever does this).

  231. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 7:05 am

    I can see having a draw, and bussing the 5 winning draw names. bussing groups from…. Castle…. Kailua …. Punahou …Waianae … Kapolei intermediate schools…. for eample. :mrgreen:

  232. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 7:08 am

    or making a drawing… and giving away tix to students with ID from the winning draw schools, along with a hotdog and drink from a special counter, and pack all the students in section C, or D, for example.

  233. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 7:09 am

    I’m in to help Tsaikos sponsor a bus.

  234. bighilofan2 November 18, 2009 7:11 am

    Plus, I’d help chaperone so da keeds no drink beeru

    JaM can trust me on dat.

    right Ralph? :mrgreen:

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