Road trip

Norm Chow will be making the drive from Southern California to Las Vegas today ahead of the MWC media events tomorrow and Wednesday.

He will return to Hawaii on Wednesday night.

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Fullback Dustin Elisara is scheduled to undergo knee surgery this week. He is expected to miss the 2012 season.

Defensive end Siaki Cravens also is expected to miss the season because of a shoulder injury. Cravens is on track to earn a bachelor’s degree in December.


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Happy birthday to Princess Leila.

mickey

COMMENTS

  1. SteveM July 23, 2012 12:19 am

    Happy Birthday Princess Leila !!!


  2. SteveM July 23, 2012 12:21 am

    JULY 23 — HAPPY 6th BIRTHDAY TO THE WARRIOR BEAT BLOG !!!

    July 23, 2006 was the posting date of Stephen Tsai’s blog, The Warrior Beat…

    The Warrior Beat

    Stephen Tsai knows University of Hawai’i sports, down to the last decimal of a 40-yard dash. He’s lived UH sports since 1987. Few reporters get the inside information like he does. What Tsai writes is a daily must read.

    Reach Stephen at stsai@honoluluadvertiser.com.

    Posted on: July 24, 2006 at 12:31:52 am

    Meet the couch potato

    Thanks for stopping by.

    This might not look like much now, but once this place is fixed up, we hope it serves as a meeting place to discuss all things that are University of Hawai’i sports.

    There will be updates, behind-the-scenes stories of UH figures and the people who cover them and guest contributors. If I can figure out the equipment — and that’s an “if,” considering my VCR still blinks “12:00 … 12:00 …: — we’ll post sound bites and videos.

    This will be your blog, too, so please send suggestions, questions and gripes. I’ll try to find the answers. I might be a couch potato, but I’ve got a press pass, a fat Rolodex and a thick skin (mostly around the mid-section).

    See you in a bit.

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Comment from: Mel DeLaura [Visitor]

    How can we attend your feed and thickness camp?

    07/18/06 @ 17:37

    DeLaura was the first of 4 non-SPAM comments on that day.

    One year later, the comment count was 301 on July 23.

    491 comments on the day after the First Anniversary Blog Party (a.k.a. Blog Party 3) on July 26, 2007.

    Blog Party 3 photos: Click here.

    Also, photos on gigi-hawaii’s blog:

    http://gigihawaii.wordpress.com/2007/07/26/first-anniversary-warrior-beat-party/


  3. WarriorMojo July 23, 2012 12:22 am

    Top Five! Go Warriors!


  4. jm2375 July 23, 2012 12:28 am

    Howzit Tsaikos!

    Healing thoughts to Mr. Elisara & Mr. Cravens.

    Happy Birthday Princess Leila!

    Happy Anniversary WB!!


  5. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 12:54 am

    Morning all,

    Enjoy Vegas ST. Get well soon Cravens and Elisara.

    Just quick reminder about a NYC CC…

    Where? Carmine’s in the theater district

    When? Saturday July 28 at 5:30 pm

    RSVP at warriorny@gmail.com

    If you all want some good Italian food served family style, come out to the NY Cattle Call.


  6. wafan July 23, 2012 1:27 am

    Good morning!

    Cannot sleep . . . again.


  7. wafan July 23, 2012 1:27 am

    Happy birthday to the Princess!

    Whoo-hoo!!!


  8. wafan July 23, 2012 1:28 am

    Happy 6th birthday to the WB!

    Whoo-hoo!!!


  9. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 2:02 am

    Good morning Tsaikos eveywhere.

    Best of intentions for Cravens and Elisara. Hope Dustin’s surgery is a great success.

    And hope Siaki gets well quickly, gets his degree, and lives happily ever after. 😀

    ST

    you lucky bugga you. enjoy the media shindig tomorrow. represent the 808~


  10. midnight July 23, 2012 2:40 am

    Happy Birthday to Princess Leila and the 6th anniversary of the Warrior Beat!

    Go Warriors!


  11. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 2:45 am

    Wow Penn State…

    Fined $60 million

    4 year bowl ban

    40 scholarships lost (over 4 years)

    vacates all wins 1998-2011

    5 year probation

    Any Penn State transfer gets immediate elgibility at another school…


  12. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 2:47 am

    Does Penn State have a good punter??


  13. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 2:53 am

    The fine of $60 million is equal to the amount Penn St. makes in football in one year…. Geez, 60 mil in one year? How much does UH make in one year of football?


  14. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 3:02 am

    What purpose does vacating wins serve? Like when we played Alabama in 2006. So we were 11-2 that year? What good does that do?


  15. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 4:05 am

    I’m pretty certain our anniversary is tomorrow.


  16. mo808 July 23, 2012 4:15 am

    Good Morning!

    Safe travels to Coach Chow!

    Get well soon to Cravens & Elisara!

    Happy Birthday Princess Leila!

    Happy Burfday to The Warrior Beat Blog!

    Where’s the cake and icecream?

    Have a great week!

    Let’s see where we at…40 more wake ups?


  17. mo808 July 23, 2012 4:17 am

    Tomorrow? Okay… Happy unBurfday today!


  18. chopsueyboy July 23, 2012 4:55 am

    Happy Birthday Princess Leila!


  19. Shoko July 23, 2012 5:04 am

    Morning!

    Based on 2010-2011 year, I can tell you that UH had an operating cost (football) of $8,860,417 and generated revenue of $7,684,363. Whereas, Penn State football had an operating cost of $19,519,288 and revenue of $72,747,734.

    These figures are from:

    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/GetOneInstitutionData.aspx

    Would be nice if UH had that kind of budget. Interesting to note is that TCU operates on a 22 million dollar budget, but seems to break even each year for football.


  20. Shoko July 23, 2012 5:10 am

    MWC Media day can be caught live stream from the MWC’s website, for those that are interested.

    http://www.themwc.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/12-media-day.html


  21. Loa July 23, 2012 5:20 am

    morning gang!

    happy birthday princess leila!! 🙂

    (btw, she was the first tsaiko i had the honor of meeting, down at da grass practice fields)


  22. graham July 23, 2012 5:24 am

    really too bad about dustin was looking foward to seeing him play this year


  23. Loa July 23, 2012 5:25 am

    Stephen/SteveM – yep, i think tomorrow is the anniversary party


  24. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 5:35 am

    Shoko

    howzit. you seem to know stuffs, so….

    the Leahey and Leahey show yesterday, both Leaheys made some good observations about how the public should be kept in the loop…

    and how it seemed to both of them that Donovan really neva had the final say in athletic stuffs….

    I agree.

    and that “upper campus administrators” had a major hand in “Wonder Gate.” and that hopefully the “Investigation” will get to the bottom of how the 200K was sent to so and so, who made the deals, who said what to who, and so forth.

    maybe, in hindsight, it was a good thing that upper administration seemed to always stick their nose into UHAD affairs. hiring coach Chow required upper campus input. we know Mr. Todo had to get somebody up stairs stairs to approve the payout. The “legal dept” had to have a say. Ms. Greenwood was in the mix too.

    Like the Leaheys said, JD and Sheriff had the best of intentions. So, whose responsibility was it to do due diligence in working out the details of the job? Usually, when there is a lawyer involved, people blame the lawyers for any fudge in the details. Something about being competent in the job.

    which leads me to wonder: who else is going to be put on paid leave? JD is not a lawyer.

    and it does not appear he was covering anything up.

    when are we going to get the official word? Christmas? just wondering.


  25. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 5:54 am

    Howzit, everyone!

    Healing prayers for those in need.

    Happy birthday Princess!


  26. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 5:54 am

    Happy Anniversary, Warrior Beat!!!


  27. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 5:58 am

    NCAA says any Penn State player who wants to transfer out can do so without the penalty of sitting out a year. they relaxed the rules about contact too. for current players as well as players who signed LOIs and were going to play for the first time this year.

    it seems like a few schools in the ACC going to make out. maybe going after one highly sought after player will open the doors for other players too. Nittany Lions online has the scoops.


  28. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 5:59 am

    Have a nice day Tsaikos….

    woooosshhhhhhh>>>>>>>>>>>


  29. gigi-hawaii July 23, 2012 6:04 am

    Hi everybody! I think the penalties levied on Penn State are appropriate.


  30. gigi-hawaii July 23, 2012 6:05 am

    Happy Birthday, Princess! Was that your wedding gown???


  31. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 6:08 am

    I hope it’s tomorrow because it’s supposed to be on the same day as my wedding anniversary.


  32. el burro sabio July 23, 2012 6:09 am

    el burro sabio:

    July 22nd, 2012 at 5:17 pm

    Potentially a lot of free agents available if scholarships are available and they can be quickly admitted to school.

    Everyone on their team is a free agent if they so choose.


  33. Shoko July 23, 2012 6:11 am

    Well, it would be wise for Greenwood and associates to be as transparent as possible when the investigation is concluded. If questions go unanswered, that leads to speculation. And thats not good for the UH to move forward.

    As to who’s fault it was, thats up to the administration as they collect the data and evaluate. However, when theirs fault to be placed it usually ends up being the guy on the bottom, even though their intentions good.

    I think that upper campus administrators delegated authority and left it up to JD to initiate and finalize the dealings with the concert. If that proves to be accurate then everyone should shoulder a portion of the blame. Of course, no one is going to admit fault, especially at the top of the food chain.

    Hopefully, this investigation doesn’t take forever to get some answers. Don’t like the idea of this hovering when the season starts.


  34. Shoko July 23, 2012 6:16 am

    Looks like its burger and fries for student-athletes and premium steak dinners for the coaches. Must be nice being a coach. 🙂


  35. 702WarriorFan July 23, 2012 6:16 am

    st- did you get my email?


  36. Bigislandkurt July 23, 2012 6:19 am

    Looks like Rockne should be lining up Penn State for our future schedule!

    BIK


  37. 702WarriorFan July 23, 2012 6:29 am

    Happy Birthday PL

    Morning Tsaikos


  38. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 6:30 am

    Shoko,

    Thanks for the numbers.


  39. 3-Prong July 23, 2012 6:31 am

    BIK: good thinking. Enjoyed it when The Tide rolled into town. I’m pretty sure the nittney lions would travel well for a replacement bowl game.


  40. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 6:31 am

    Shoko

    Big Island Kurt

    looks and feels like both of you winnaz this morning! :mrgreen:

    wooshhh….


  41. BigHiloFan2 July 23, 2012 6:37 am

    Shoko

    i made my picks.

    you guys closer to the circle, have a better chance of making more accurate picks.

    I don’t know what it means, delgating authority to da king rat when the king rat is outta town. unless…. we talking about ah babuuz fakta being in play.

    i seen dat movie too. is brudda JD dat slow? surrounded by slow students in upper campus?

    is that what the investigation gonna conclude?

    tell me it ain’t so….

    there is silver lining inthe cloud. schedule PSU a coupla times in the next few…. 😀

    :mrgreen:


  42. gigi-hawaii July 23, 2012 6:39 am

    BTW, the garlic shrimp (shrimp scampi) at Giovanni’s Shrimp Truck in Kahuku was out of this world!!! TENDER AND JUICY.

    Thanks to Al and Warrior Dave for the recommendation.

    To see pictures, click on the following link:

    http://gigihawaii.wordpress.com/2012/07/23/giovannis-shrimp-truck/


  43. Shoko July 23, 2012 6:40 am

    Hope Boise State goes undefeated this year and reaches a BCS Bowl. MWC could use the money. Since preseason rankings come out tomorrow, does anyone want to make any predictions on order of finish?


  44. gigi-hawaii July 23, 2012 6:45 am

    Shoko: just hope Hawaii finishes high enough to make us proud.


  45. BigWave96744 July 23, 2012 6:53 am

    Good time for Rockne Freitas to schedule Penn State as future OOC oppenents in the first week of December since they won’t be playing for the Big10 champtionship in the next 4 years.


  46. Da Punchbowl Kid July 23, 2012 6:53 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Lotsa interesting comments this morning. L&L Show – something to think about, fo sho.

    Safe travels to the Hawaii contingent, healing to da Warriors.

    Happy Birthday Princess!!! 🙂

    Shoko –

    Hawaii finishes #1. Addahknow bout da rest.


  47. Bugaz July 23, 2012 6:54 am

    Would rather have da Warriors demolish Boise State than make a few dollars for the conference.


  48. Bugaz July 23, 2012 6:56 am

    Hoping Coach going a day ahead doesn’t get a DUI. Just kidding!!!


  49. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 6:57 am

    I think there’s a stipulation that probation teams can’t use the Hawaii exemption for their bowl game.


  50. Bugaz July 23, 2012 6:58 am

    Man I can’t wait, September first is not coming fast enough!!!


  51. Bugaz July 23, 2012 7:00 am

    Even if it’s just a thirteenth game for both using Hawaii’s exemption? That blows


  52. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 7:01 am

    Every time I hear of “food chain” I think of Ferd Borsch. He was in the hospital. He was allowed only water. His neighbor could have ice chips and water. He said his neighbor was higher on the food chain.


  53. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 7:02 am

    I think it’s because Alabama used the exemption to play twice in Hawaii while on probation.


  54. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 7:04 am

    Does anybody know the answer to this: Does Kapua Sai count as an initial scholarship?


  55. Bugaz July 23, 2012 7:11 am

    Not sure, but Kapua is a major boost to the offensive line up


  56. Vbfan July 23, 2012 7:11 am

    is the new european outside hitter for the warriors a serbian named Sinisa Zarkovic?


  57. Bugaz July 23, 2012 7:14 am

    It’s not officially a bowl game, and there expenditures would probably be high traveling to Hawaii so what’s the harm


  58. Bugaz July 23, 2012 7:15 am

    Oops there= their


  59. Kapahulu July 23, 2012 7:36 am

    SteveM, Papajoe2, Al, Myuki and Cruisers:

    Aloha from Hamburg Germany!

    This is the last night on our 10 Day Baltic & Scandinavian Cruise on the Holland America Cruise Ship Eurodam.The time has gone really fast and the Cruise was Fantastic with some Awesome new memories. I will send some notes to SteveM later about the Cruise Highlights.

    I haven’t reallly been able to lurk as I had originally planned. So was there any major UH news that I missed in the last 10 days? Any updates on the Stevie Wonder situation? Last I heard, Jim Donovan and Rich Sheriff were placed on leave.

    The weather in this area was raining for about 2 weeks before we got here. I guess we brought the Hawaiian Sunshine with us because the weather has been just gorgeous almost everywhere we went. Today in Hamburg Germany was picture postcard perfect.

    It’s going to take a while to get back to Hawaii. Going by way of London. Not stayin for the Olympics though.


  60. RedZone July 23, 2012 7:37 am

    Big Ten also penalizing Penn State.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/big-ten-donate-penn-states-150011470–ncaaf.html


  61. Dennis Halloran July 23, 2012 7:42 am

    Penn State had two sophomore punters last year. Fera appears to be the better one.


  62. Kapahulu July 23, 2012 7:44 am

    Heading back to Copenhagen Denmark.

    We are about 12 hours ahead of Hawaii.


  63. Stephen Tsai July 23, 2012 7:44 am

    Not sure if that’s the name but they think they have a commit from a European.


  64. achat or July 23, 2012 7:53 am

    Il y a apparement une multitude qui voudraient savoir par quel moyen assurer leurs rentes des contrecoups sans pitiés de la chute inéxorable de l’union économique et monétaire. Ne réfléchissez pas un instant : l’achat d’or et d’argent métal sera votre seule défense contre l’hyper majoration imminente.


  65. lakesidegt July 23, 2012 7:57 am

    The plot thickens. Check out Ian lind’s blog regarding Robert Peyton, promoter of the Stevie Wonder concert. http://www.ilind.net/


  66. lakesidegt July 23, 2012 8:00 am

    Kapahulu

    We did the Baltic cruise several years ago. 12 hour time difference and 20+ hours of flying before you get back to the islands. We flew from Copenhagen to Newark;and Newark to Honolulu.


  67. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 23, 2012 8:00 am

    I wonder if UH will be pursuing any of the players already committed to Penn State. Might be worth looking. Maybe a RB and WR for the next class.


  68. tommui July 23, 2012 8:00 am

    GOOD MORNING HAWAII!

    Happy birthday Princess – whenever that may be!

    And ST, Happy Anniversary for you and Wena – and many more.

    And Happy Anniversary for the Warrior Blog – whenever that might be!


  69. al July 23, 2012 8:10 am

    happy birthday leila…long time no see.


  70. al July 23, 2012 8:11 am

    i do recall the blog and st’s anniversary happening to be the same day.


  71. al July 23, 2012 8:11 am

    penn state got off easy.


  72. al July 23, 2012 8:13 am

    st…don’t we also have an englander coming aboard as well as the serb?

    what about that penn state oh transferring with ali longo?


  73. al July 23, 2012 8:14 am

    kapahulu…rainbow drive inn well be glad of your return. sounds like you guys had load of fun.


  74. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 8:25 am

    Bruddah A-Joe… sent you a message on facebook… when you get a chance. Mahalo!


  75. BigWave96744 July 23, 2012 8:36 am

    Happy Birthday Leila..

    Oh, hi Faye!!


  76. al July 23, 2012 8:38 am

    bigwave…how’s the shore breaks doing? they must be pretty big already.


  77. BigWave96744 July 23, 2012 8:39 am

    What if Hawaii is Penn St’s 12th opponent?

    They could tell recruits, hey you wanna go to a luau, hang on the beach while everyone else is freezing, etc


  78. d1shima July 23, 2012 8:49 am

    Great Morning All!

    Happy Birthday Princess Leila Wai!

    Best wishes to Elisara and Cravens.

    Drive safely Coach Chow!


  79. d1shima July 23, 2012 8:52 am

    Rats!

    4 of 10 on the quiz.

    But I stand by my premise….the Ref is blind!

    😆


  80. lava July 23, 2012 8:52 am

    What is the fabulous princess Leila doing these days?


  81. d1shima July 23, 2012 8:56 am

    The UnHappy Valley sanctions seem to be appropriate.

    The Death Penalty would have been over the top for those who are now on the team and those heading the program and the institution who are now tasked with rebuilding a proud and upstanding program that will benefit student-athletes.


  82. d1shima July 23, 2012 8:59 am

    Chow Down on free Lions?

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/163445856.html


  83. d1shima July 23, 2012 9:02 am

    O_o

    the NCAA announced it is “considering waiving scholarship limits for programs to which these football student-athletes transfer, provided they reduce proportionately in the next year. For example, the limit is 25 new scholarships per year to a total of 85 scholarships. If the limits are waived in 2012-13 to accommodate one Penn State student-athlete who wishes to transfer to a particular school already at the limits, in 2013-14 the school will be limited to 24 new scholarships and 84 total scholarships.”

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/163445856.html


  84. letsgowarriors July 23, 2012 9:04 am

    yes i believe kapua sai will count as an initial. remember brashton was going to count as an initial as well if he got his 6th year.


  85. A-joe July 23, 2012 9:13 am

    74- Rajah dat. Response sent.

    6 years ago all this foolishness began. Wouldn’t have it any other way…


  86. 808Bowler July 23, 2012 9:17 am

    Mourning everyone. Ya may be we can scoop up some penn st players. But man tough sledding for them. How they going sustain a football program? Would players still want to go there?


  87. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 23, 2012 9:18 am

    I guess my answer to #67 is right here…haha. It’s worth a shot.

    http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/163445856.html?id=163445856


  88. A-joe July 23, 2012 9:38 am

    Lets not become that guy sitting at the table with his prom date, looking around and expressing how much he wants to have that other girl across the ballroom instead.

    We get da boys we already need. Saddle up and LETS DANCE!!!


  89. krump1_AKA_protector July 23, 2012 9:39 am

    Shoko on #43,

    How can you hope Boise State goes undefeated? Does this mean you’re cheering for UH to lose? Sorry, but I will never cheer for Boise when it plays against UH! We’re going to be the blemish on their record as the Mean Green Machine will be humming in time for the showdown.


  90. mctruck July 23, 2012 9:44 am

    Now might be a good time for UH to seek a game with Penn State in Hawaii as an incentive to their bowl ban(s)….this might serve as a boost to the entire Penn State team and boosters.


  91. d1shima July 23, 2012 9:45 am

    And Go Tamari Miyashiro!


  92. mctruck July 23, 2012 9:46 am

    Go get a kicker from Penn State; and hope the Warriors stomp all over BSU before they go east.


  93. al July 23, 2012 9:47 am

    college station connection: a couple of beefy lineman would be good.


  94. al July 23, 2012 9:47 am

    …and there’s always room for a holy grail candidate.


  95. krump1_AKA_protector July 23, 2012 9:48 am

    re: all those who’d like a 13th game

    Remember that a 13th game would require UH to win 7 games (instead of the current 6) to get into a bowl game. Why make it hardewr for the team and reward Penn State. There’s more downside than upside in that equation. We also don’t need to pick up their tarnish.


  96. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 9:51 am

    Mahalo, A-Joe!

    And here’s an update on this weekend’s playoff game between the Force and Sharks:

    http://www.georgiaforce.com/news/in-the-news/playoff_preview_force_vs_sharks/


  97. Kevin July 23, 2012 9:51 am

    Yes. It is unfair to the student-athletes today. They now have to leave or just stop playing football. Friendships lost, relationships uprooted, etc.. not good for the innocent.

    I do enjoy the financial penalties though. This is where it hurts them the most. However, the financial penalties should reflect the # of profitable years in which they discovered the cover up to the present day.

    Cant put a price on lies that destroyed young innocent lives, but $60 million ain’t enough.


  98. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 23, 2012 9:52 am

    Getting a few of those 6’4″+ 300+ OL men from Penn State would be awesome. We could use them for sure.


  99. Buffoman July 23, 2012 9:53 am

    I believe getting a PSU player, especially a starter or recruit to come to UH is a long shot, especially if the student/athlete is from the east coast, yet I like the fact that Coach is going to give it a shot. The worse thing to do is to do nothing. Getting a “no” at least tells you what you need to do to possibly get a “yes” the next time you are in a similar situation.


  100. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 10:08 am

    Gotta agree with Kevin’s #97 on this one. While $60 million is a ton for schools like us, that’s only a fraction of a year for those big schools. What is the impact of giving up wins and championships for a few years, to a school like Penn State? And Emmert was blowing Tiny Bubbles, in my opinion. Talking about the relationship between college athletics and education. How lost can he be? And he can’t reign in any control over what the networks are doing with the big conferences. What a bunch of crock (pot stew).


  101. hilousupaman July 23, 2012 10:10 am

    Bookem Coach! Hope we can get a couple players out of this, definately would be nice to get a Kicker or a TE. PSU also well known for LBs, I’m sure they are deep in that position so even if we can’t get a starter one of the 2nd string LBs would be a great pick up!


  102. Bryson July 23, 2012 10:10 am

    Sorry to hear about our Two wounded Warriors…Wishing a Speedy recovery for both…it’s unfortunate though cause Cravens career as a Warrior may have come to an end I was hoping to see him get alot of PT this year…


  103. Bigislandkurt July 23, 2012 10:18 am

    Al! College Station is Texas A&M.

    STATE COLLEGE is Penn State.

    Same smell. Both are aggie schools that make good cheese.

    BIK


  104. Bigislandkurt July 23, 2012 10:19 am

    Hawaii — Penn State connection:

    Amani Purcell — transferred back to UH.

    Brain Norwood — Former UH DB and longtime PSU asst. Coach. Was also a finalist for the head coaching position I think. Lucky for him he didn’t get it.

    Tim Manoa — Former PSU fullback. Went to school up in Laie I think.

    BIK


  105. Bugaz July 23, 2012 10:20 am

    Krump: so regardless if we play PS in a thirteenth game or not we have to win six games. If the game was to be played I would hope that beating a downed PS football program would not be that difficult…I would like the opportunity of the chance. We can’t be worried of one game to get to the next level and bowl games. Like coach Chow said “We will chase championships”…not dodge them.


  106. Kevin July 23, 2012 10:21 am

    WW,

    Illusion is key. $60 million, bowl bans, loss of schollies.

    One of those is a slap on the wrist and two of those really hurts innocent student-athletes that had nothing to do with it.

    It’s a shock and awe approach by the NCAA and no real justice served.


  107. SteveM July 23, 2012 10:25 am

    Good morning everyone!

    😳 Yikes, wrong official birthday date. All these years, I left ST’s first blog entry by it’s title and renamed all the others by date in the archives. Turns out ST made two blog entries on the 24th…and I could have sworn his first was up for a day…but maybe it was because I was rechecking too eagerly and too often for more by ST… hence the 23rd error.

    Anyway, here’s a portion of the second ST entry made 11 hours later (by the blog clock) and the first comment by a famous Tsai-ko…

    Posted on: July 24, 2006 at 11:33:32 am

    Team remains unsettled

    This has been an antsy offseason for the University of Hawai‘i football team. In past years, the coaches would cut 30 or so players at the end of spring practice in April to make room for incoming freshmen and junior-college transfers……

    […more. Much more. ST wrote long entries back then 🙂 ]

    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Comment from: NelsonO [Visitor]

    Too bad for Fonoti, but this is a golden opportunity for redshirt freshman Brashton Satele.

    Speaking of Fonoti’s wedge-busting, Fonoti reminded me of Semeri Ulufale from many moons ago. Ulufale was like a bowling ball knocking down pins.

    07/24/06 @ 17:09

    Comment from: homey [Visitor]

    So Tsai, will the UH football defense step it up this year? Last year they looked like they were a couple of steps slower than the other team. I also noticed that they didn’t tackle very good.

    Do you have any insights on the Wahine Vollyball recruits?

    What about the B-ball team? How are the recruits and what’s the buzz about a replacement for Wallace?

    Will be baseball team be pretenders? Was this past year a “lucky” season?

    You would think the Golf teams at least be in the top ten. How come we cannot recruit better players? Same with Softball and Soccer. The Soccer coach gotta go.

    07/25/06 @ 11:14

    Only 2 non-SPAM comments on this entry.

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  108. chopsueyboy July 23, 2012 10:29 am

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  110. whitey July 23, 2012 10:33 am

    kevin, what about the “innocent victims”?


  111. MCB July 23, 2012 10:35 am

    Anyone who does not get the punishment probably doesn’t understand what is being punished. Penn STate is not being punished by the NCAA because Sandusky raped boys. Penn State is being punished by the NCAA because they placed the good of the football program above the good of past and future victims. The leaders of PSU listened to the football coach rather than their own good judgment and the law. THAT is lack of institutional control and THAT is what is being punished. Sure, the current football players are probably innocents being hurt. But if they don’t punish PSU severely and NOW, what message are we sending? Just keep things under wraps until all guilty parties are gone because we don’t want to punish innocents? that makes no sense.


  112. papajoe2 July 23, 2012 10:38 am

    Changing the subject a little but I’ve always said that UH should try to get an exemption to start the season 1 week earlier than the rest of the nation. Maybe PSU could be a part of that. With summer school in full swing at the campus, 1 of the reasons not soing so was that the dorms would have to be ready a week earlier. I honestly don’t know the answer to this, but aren’t the current players in summer school using the dorms? I hope Mr. Freitas or whoever is in charge pursues this. Getting games in early December or late November will be a challenge with all the conference championship games.


  113. hilousupaman July 23, 2012 10:40 am

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  114. Kevin July 23, 2012 10:42 am

    This does nothing for the kids, Sandusky’s victims.

    Taking schollies away, having players uproot connections and friendships they made. How does that help?

    They’ve added more victims for Sandusky’s actions and those at the school that helped the silence grow.

    Hitting them in the wallet was a start, albeit a small one, the rest is just an illusion to give the impression the NCAA has control over these organizations aka BCS schools.


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  116. Bugaz July 23, 2012 10:44 am

    They are allowing the football players to transfer, so there is a choice. If they choose to leave they get a chance elsewhere. Then that will leave the door open for others. I just think they are affecting a program that covered up a large crime, as I think more people probably knew about it but didn’t want it to ruin the program. It just caught up to them. Best of luck to innocent.


  117. Bugaz July 23, 2012 10:45 am

    Yeah what MCB said! JMO


  118. MCB July 23, 2012 10:47 am

    People say that this does nothing for the victims. Have you talked to them directly and know this for sure? I doubt it. I know several sex abuse victims and part of the horror of their story is not being believed or being told to keep it under wraps by people to whom they are reporting these crimes. That is exactly what PSU did. the NCAA is now telling them they were wrong – big time – and that will certainly help some victims, even victims who were not directly assaulted by Sandusky.


  119. Bugaz July 23, 2012 10:50 am

    Kevin do you personally know all of the rape victims? If not maybe they do feel the NCAA actions are justified. Maybe


  120. Bugaz July 23, 2012 10:52 am

    Oops MCB beat me to the punch again. I’ll just stop now.

    Go Warriors!!!


  121. Kevin July 23, 2012 10:52 am

    Bugaz,

    I know a rape victim personally. Which is more than most ever encounter. While not a rape victim in this case. There is never any justice.


  122. SteveM July 23, 2012 10:55 am

    Re: #59

    Kapahulu — thanks for dropping us a post! Yes, I look forward to your cruise notes and will publish it in a future Tsai-ko Cruiser newsletter. Too bad you missed the last Cruiser Call, because the others who have done the same itinerary were there to share tips (except for the recuperating tom mui).

    No news on “Wonder Gate” that I noticed recently. I think the media peeps are keeping quiet but are about to explode… my sense anyway. But I can’t get dates straight… 😐

    But note that “Water Gate” brought down a President.


  123. whitey July 23, 2012 10:56 am

    kevin, just read the ncaa consent decree with psu and all of the student athetes are deemed innocent by the ncaa, and as a result, they also have been given permission to transfer wtihout penalties or can remain at psu on scholarship till they graduate. the athletes don’t have to play football to retain their scholies. the psu president signed the ncaa consent decree and will not be challenging it.


  124. MCB July 23, 2012 10:57 am

    there’s never any justice, so no sense punishing and trying to send a message about what a school’s priority should be in this circumstances?


  125. Kevin July 23, 2012 11:01 am

    Yeah, that’s exactly what I want.

    Let’s free Sandusky too. Exactly what I want.

    You got it all figured out on my behalf.


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  127. MCB July 23, 2012 11:15 am

    I am going to assume that your response is facetious and merely your way of defiantly backpedaling without having to admit as much. Otherwise feel free to offer what you think the NCAA should have done.


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  130. Warrior Dave July 23, 2012 11:21 am

    All hail the Queen!!! Happy Birthday Leila!!


  131. jm2375 July 23, 2012 11:40 am

    RIP Sally Ride.

    I was thinking that the NCAA overreached on what is essentially a criminal case involving coaches and not the program per se, but now that you put it in the perspective of “lack of institutional control”, I’m rethinking my stance.


  132. HiFlyer July 23, 2012 11:57 am

    Happy Birthday Leila!!!


  133. MCB July 23, 2012 12:00 pm

    JM- actually i just read the consent decree. it stated that the conduct was far beyond “lack of institutional control.” but i think the reasoning still stands: the leaders of PSU put the importance of the football program above the law. and that is why the statue had to come down. to leave it up would say that football is still more important than anything else.

    people say that concealing the allegations didn’t help on the field. if the crime that mc witnessed was reported in and adjudicated 2001(?), wouldn’t they be facing the same situation as they do now based on the 1998 investigations?

    ichiro to the yanks?


  134. papajoe2 July 23, 2012 12:11 pm

    Happy Birthday Leila!


  135. A-joe July 23, 2012 12:14 pm

    While you’re dismantling Paterno’s statue please take down every statue of every US President that owned, sold, raped and bared children with slaves.

    Unless, of course, you have high double moral standards and find it an inconvenience to do so.


  136. WarriorNY July 23, 2012 12:15 pm

    Ichiro to the Yankees!


  137. RedZone July 23, 2012 12:17 pm

    HBL.


  138. MCB July 23, 2012 12:20 pm

    A-Joe – do you have some reason to believe that I would oppose taking down Jefferson’s statute? But I am not personally taking down the statutes, I just agree with the decision. Just like I would probably agree with the decision to take down Jefferson’s statutes.


  139. MCB July 23, 2012 12:22 pm

    statutes = statues.


  140. A-joe July 23, 2012 12:30 pm

    MCB- Don’t just talk about it. Be about it. You don’t have to remove them personally. But, you can surely start a national campaign to have all those US Presidents statues removed ASAP!. Unless of course, seeking symbolic justice of actual rape is an inconvenience for you.


  141. Bowwar July 23, 2012 12:35 pm

    By Paterno and the administrators sitting idlely by to allow Sandusky to do his “evil deeds”, they were “co-conspiritors” and should be brought to justice to face charges. Sandusky may have done the crime to the kids, but they (and Paterno) ALLOWED the crime to occur…Definitely, a lack of “institutional control” and if anything, the penalties are far from less from what it should be.


  142. MCB July 23, 2012 12:40 pm

    A-joe, no i can just talk about it. that is what a forum/blog is about. I guess you thought the statue should have stayed up. You disagree with my position and try to discredit it by saying that I should be personally taking the statue down or go around the country and take down all statues of everyone who did wrong. You probably don’t realize this, but that is not a strong counterargument. Why don’t you respond with your reasoning as to why Paterno’s statue should stay up? By doing so, you will likely espouse exactly why PSU needed to be sanctioned.


  143. A-joe July 23, 2012 12:57 pm

    Sitting idle? So what you’re saying is even after Paterno reported the incident to his superiors, his failure to follow up, investigate, call authorities, secure DNA, conduct interviews and basically do his superior’s jobs constitute as guilt by association?

    That’s like someone tells of you an accident just occurred so you call 911. Then 5 days later you find out the victim died and officers are at your doorstep arresting you for failure to follow up on the well being of the victim and suggesting alternative remedies because you sat idle simply assuming doctors had it under control.


  144. jimmy the lock July 23, 2012 1:00 pm

    In this case, Paterno was a friend of Sandusky.


  145. jimmy the lock July 23, 2012 1:00 pm

    Why keep someone like that on your staff?


  146. DoubleB July 23, 2012 1:03 pm

    @A-Joe Joe Pa let him have keys to the building… Knew he was on campus… For years afterward. No excuse for anyone who knew about the allegations.


  147. MCB July 23, 2012 1:05 pm

    No, the fact that it was thought to be protocol that the rape of a young boy committed by a football coach at the school should be reported up the chain to the president of the university before the police is evidence that the football program had more power than it should – the reason that they are being sanctioned. Paterno knew what happened and continued to allow sandusky full access to the facilities and the children? no problem with that one either? that is not sitting idle?


  148. Shoko July 23, 2012 1:06 pm

    The mention of securing DNA in this case makes me cringe.


  149. A-joe July 23, 2012 1:06 pm

    MCB-

    US President statues symbolize their accomplishments. Paterno’s statue is there because of his accomplishments and contributions to Penn State.

    You still haven’t given me any solid concrete evidence (other than political) as to why Paterno’s statue should be taken down. I’ve read the court transcripts of the investigation. Please refresh my memory and point out exactly the page and paragraph that states Paterno knowingly agreed to let Sandusky roam Penn State after his deeds were reported?


  150. jimmy the lock July 23, 2012 1:07 pm

    And yeah, Ichiro to the Yanks.


  151. RedZone July 23, 2012 1:10 pm

    So if it was a problem at the institution that was the reason for the sanctions could all athletes from PSs others sports transfer too? Could Shoji go after some VB players?


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  153. MCB July 23, 2012 1:12 pm

    A-Joe – p. 103 -Despite Spanier’s, Schultz’s, Paterno’s and Curley’s knowledge of criminal investigations of Sandusky regarding child abuse as early as 1998, they failed to control Sandusky’s access to the University’s facilities and campuses. In fact, Sandusky was allowed to have a key for, and continued to work out in, the Lasch Building until November 2011, and had keys to other Penn State facilities.


  154. DoubleB July 23, 2012 1:13 pm

    @150 c’mon he didn’t have to agree… He had to stand up like a man and kick Sandusky off the Campus period. He didn’t. That’s why the powers that be at the time are all gone. They got off easy.


  155. MCB July 23, 2012 1:16 pm

    A Joe – page 64 – After the February 2001 incident, Sandusky engaged in improper conduct with at least two children in the Lasch Building. Those assaults may well have been prevented if Spanier, Schultz, Paterno and Curley had taken additional actions to safeguard children on University facilities.


  156. MCB July 23, 2012 1:18 pm

    is that evidence nonpolitical enough for you? i don’t even know what “political evidence” is, so it may or may not be.


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  159. RedZone July 23, 2012 1:40 pm

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  160. DoubleB July 23, 2012 1:44 pm

    MCB I appreciated your posts. Off to the Beach with the fam 🙂


  161. Manoa July 23, 2012 1:47 pm

    Ajoe, the repeated rapes and sodomy at Penn State, the use of Penn State athletics as a way to recruit these boys (he would get them seats at games along with visits and showers in the lockeroom) over a period of many years– those were bad enough to merit the penalties and Joe Paterno’s allowing Sandusky to continue to do these things for so many years was awful and completely erases the character he appears to have– it was a huge failure of character not to do more than pass things on to the administration, press the Administration to do something. Equally as abhorrent as the rapes– maybe even worse– was the attempt to cover up the things Sandusky was doing– it is clear that he was protected by the cover up which was imposed by Penn State– if nothing else, Paterno should have reported the cover up. The independent report on this concluded that Paterno was part of the cover-up.


  162. Bugaz July 23, 2012 2:00 pm

    So if hypothetically 40 football players chose to leave their program, that would leave about24 Schollies for current players on the roster without schollies to receive. Something like that. Wow that would be crazy. Doubt that many leave and I actually hope they don’t.


  163. Bugaz July 23, 2012 2:03 pm

    Anyways the scholarship thing can be confusing, but wow


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  169. A-joe July 23, 2012 2:32 pm

    MCB- I’m sooo glad you brought that up. Read it again and look where it says, “knowledge of criminal investigations.” It doesn’t say, “knowledge of a convicted criminal.”

    Huge difference!

    I do believe we live in a society that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So please please please I ask of you, show me where Paterno admitted to know Sandusky was IN FACT convicted of molestation and yet still allowed him on campus. Because if you even bothered to read the 1998 transcripts, Sandusky was investigated but never convicted.

    DoubleB- Yeah! Lets go with your train of thought. What if it was someone else who got accused of molestation. Paterno is told of it and reports it to his superiors. Later, Paterno sees the accused with access throughout campus. Say Paterno questions authorities why this is so. Paterno’s told the accused is innocent until proven guilty and has the right to have access. Paterno says this is not right and does what everyone says he should’ve done; He oversteps his superiors and calls the Police. Police file an investigation. The report becoems public knowledge. Now it gets into the news. Suddenly, the accused is found innocent.

    Then what.

    Was Paterno right in overstepping his chain of command? Should he go straight to authorities everytime he sees injustice? What if he’s wrong? Double-B, It’s totally cool if he publicly ruins an innocent’s life, yeah? Just as long Paterno stood up like an 80 year old man and kick some “false accusation ass!”

    Paterno did what was right. He followed protocol. With all we now know Paterno’s now being accused of not doing enough. Everyone’s looking for someone to blame. He wrongfully happens to be the biggest target.


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  171. A-joe July 23, 2012 2:41 pm

    Manoa- show me conclusive evidence Paterno knew first hand of Sandusky’s despicable conduct and still condone it.


  172. RedZone July 23, 2012 2:42 pm

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  174. MCB July 23, 2012 2:51 pm

    okie dokie. well that possibly could explain the behavior from 1998-2001. But what about after the 2001 incident. Your argument suggests that even though an assistant coach saw Sandusky raping a boy in the showers and reported it to Paterno, then Paterno didn’t have to do anything because Sandusky wasn’t convicted. Is that really what you mean? I really hope not. Like I said, there are many in the PSU community who think like you, which is why they are getting sanctioned.

    YOur argument is also circular. How was sandusky going to be convicted if the incident was never reported to the police? Paterno for sure could and should have prevented any assaults after the 2001 incident. But he sat idle. This is egregious especially considering that he was aware of the 1998 investigations.


  175. jimmy the lock July 23, 2012 2:51 pm

    My interpretation of the posts above:

    A-joe requests MCB to point out exactly the page and paragraph that states Paterno knowingly agreed to let Sandusky roam Penn State after his deeds were reported?

    MCB cites p. 103 that shows Sandusky has access to the University’s facilities and campuses after he was being criminally investigated.

    There was nothing about the request to MCB about a “knowledge of a convicted criminal”. I could be wrong since I am just assuming things and do not claim to be a mind reader and know what exactly A-joe meant.

    Many people are suspended and escorted off the workplace premises even though they are not yet found guilty.

    Let this play out and see if others are criminally implicated.

    Thank you all for good reading. I’m pau now.


  176. mo808 July 23, 2012 2:55 pm

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  177. MCB July 23, 2012 2:55 pm

    I am pretty surprised that you don’t think the additional rapes after the 2001 incident proves that something went horribly wrong. Do you really really think that Paterno was really right? I think the outcome – the fact that there were more victims after 2001 – shows that he was definitely wrong. Before he died he even stated that he wish he had done more. How can you say that a protocol which allows the university to evaluate the pros and cons of reporting a child’s rape before making a decision, is right??


  178. Wes'side Warrior July 23, 2012 3:10 pm

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    http://www.freep.com/article/20120723/SPORTS08/120723013/penn-state-ncaa-sanctions?odyssey=mod|mostview


  179. A-joe July 23, 2012 3:30 pm

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  182. wafan July 23, 2012 3:51 pm

    Too bad they cannot specifically punish just the guilty . . . I guess they did with imprisionment and firings. There are a lot of innocent athletes and their families being negatively affected.


  183. wafan July 23, 2012 3:55 pm

    That photo provided in the WW link makes Emmert look like a CGI character.

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  186. Capitolist/WassupDoc July 23, 2012 4:14 pm

    Three UH athletics-related events coming up this week:

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    Stadium Authority Meeting

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    Pearl Ridge Elemntary School Cafeteria

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  187. Kevin July 23, 2012 4:14 pm

    wafan:

    July 23rd, 2012 at 3:51 pm

    Too bad they cannot specifically punish just the guilty . . . I guess they did with imprisionment and firings. There are a lot of innocent athletes and their families being negatively affected.

    Wafan,

    Don’t say that. Someone might try to place words in your mouth.


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  189. Shoko July 23, 2012 4:22 pm

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  202. mo808 July 23, 2012 5:10 pm

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    Dinnah is l/o’s and chicken stir fry. Hubs is doing what he does best throwing whatewa’s in the ice box into a pot or skillet and it’s fit for a king or queens ( in my case) table.


  204. Bugaz July 23, 2012 5:21 pm

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  205. A-joe July 23, 2012 5:32 pm

    Everyone is free to post their opinions and convictions about any topic. (Please do) Just keep in mind there’s always two sides to any story.

    Seemed a bit one-sided against Paterno. I apologize if my devil’s advocacy may have upset anyone in any way.

    Unfortunately, I’ve seen the brutal effects of what a Penn State incident can render on both sides of the table. From a senseless suicide to being falsely accused by the very system we trust and believe in to protect us.

    As uncomfortable as it may be, a healthy debate through dialogue is good. Makes us all stronger. Builds character. Fortifies our Tsaiko ‘Ohana.

    And as for Penn State? Awfully tragic. My heart goes out to the Penn State Nation. I pray they find resolution, heal, learn, forgive, never forget, come together and move forward as one.


  206. Kevin July 23, 2012 5:42 pm

    A-Joe,

    Don’t apologize for anything. If you meant what you said, don’t apologize.


  207. al July 23, 2012 5:45 pm

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    surely, joe pa was wrong for condoning by ignoring. he paid the price though, he gave up his will to live.

    too bad the guilty still has no remorse to this day.

    and every dog gets his day. soon.

    …nuff said.


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  209. HiFlyer July 23, 2012 5:53 pm

    al, thats because you rarely have l/o’s at your house.


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  212. gigi-hawaii July 23, 2012 6:14 pm

    hubby thinks it will take 10 years for Penn State to recover from the sanctions. Too bad for the players.


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    Not heathy, but fills up the belly of hungry kids!


  218. Bigislandkurt July 23, 2012 6:36 pm

    Personally, I think some folks are missing the point here regarding Penn State. Many are saying that the NCAA “overstepped” their boundaries or that their penalties went too far and hurt a lot of innocent players and people who had nothing to do with the crime. Remember, the sanctions and penalties are NOT about individuals, it’s about PENN STATE UNIVERSITY. Due to the crimes and negligence of the football team,YES, the TEAM of which JO PA was the head bull — they will ALL suffer the consequences. We can’t selectively dissect and remove certain entities from the equation — that is not how it works. Remember — When Penn State Football makes $60 million per year, that sum does not go to the football team only. It goes to the University. Whether it be in a library, the physics department, or the women’s center — football and Jo Pa revenues PERMEATED the university. Penn State is a storied NCAA institution, who is a member of the Big 10, who is also privy to BCS monies each and every year. By making that decision to be in this select club, THE UNIVERSITY has made riches beyond riches. And now, we are supposed to dissect the verdict and remove certain factors of the University? Sorry, that is not how it works. GUILTY!! And they will all feel the consequences. There is NO WAY to shape this pro-penn state. Mo betta they just scrap the whole thing and start over.

    It’s all about the victims. All young boys whose lives were impacted forever. It’s all about them. Every thing else is manini.

    BIK


  219. mo808 July 23, 2012 6:38 pm

    Question:,I’ve seen smu or smu’d used.a few times and in context I think I know what it means. However. If someone could define for me please?


  220. d1shima July 23, 2012 6:46 pm

    SMU did receive the “death penalty”

    Likewise, the threat exists here.


  221. Ipu Man July 23, 2012 6:50 pm

    The Southern Methodist University football scandal was an incident in which

    the football program at Southern Methodist University was investigated and

    punished for massive violations of NCAA rules and regulations. The most serious

    violation was the maintenance of a slush fund used for “under the table” payments

    to players from the mid-1970s through 1986. This culminated in the NCAA

    handing down the so-called “death penalty” by canceling SMU’s entire 1987 schedule.

    SMU was allowed to return for an abbreviated 1988 season, but opted to sit that season

    out as well after school officials determined it would be impossible to field a viable team.

    The harshness of the penalty left SMU football in a shambles. The Mustangs had only one winning

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    Wikipedia


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  223. mo808 July 23, 2012 7:03 pm

    Mahalo D1 & Ipuman!


  224. ALLAN July 23, 2012 7:12 pm

    $60 MILLION…POCKET CHANGE. BOOSTERS PROBABLY ALREADY GOT IT COVERED AS WE READ AND WRITE; PROBABLY USING THEIR PORTIONS TO JOCKEY FOR BETTER POSITIONS IN FUTURE ENDEAVORS AFTERTHE SMOKE HAS CLEARED.


  225. SteveM July 23, 2012 7:17 pm

    mo808 — the SMU situation was portrayed in a 1991 comedy football movie called “Necessary Roughness”, starring Scott Bakula. Wikipedia has a good descriptions and notes the movie was based on the SMU “death penalty”…

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necessary_Roughness_(film)


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  227. d1shima July 23, 2012 7:18 pm

    4 years of bowl exclusions will probably thin the ranks of those boosters.

    Losing those schollies will hurt as well.


  228. Guava July 23, 2012 7:34 pm

    Carefully, I have read everyone’s input regarding Penn State football. I agree, the Jerry Sandusky situation was perverse and unconscionable. However, it was neither Joe Paterno nor the current players and / or staff that did any of the wrong doing. I ask, why are they being punished. me, I’m an eye for eye kind of guy, Sandusky, I’m not going to apologize for this, but may you rot in hell, or worse. Um, hopefully worse.

    Anyway, as far as I can tell, from what I read at least, the crimes were brought to Paterno’s attention, he went directly to administrators (like he’s supposed to), and THEN the “conspiracy of silence” began.

    NCAA says the school is guilty of being complicit in Sandusky’s actions, okay, so why aren’t they all being prosecuted, or dealt with legally…..? That’s my big issue…..!!!!!!


  229. d1shima July 23, 2012 7:37 pm

    I believe the legal exercises are not yet over.


  230. tommui July 23, 2012 7:42 pm

    GUAVA #229 NCAA is punishing the institution for putting the reputation of the institution first over the harm that may have been done to the minors.

    It would be up to the State or local law enforcement agencies to prosecute. The University doesn’t have the power to do so.


  231. d1shima July 23, 2012 7:56 pm

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  232. Double B July 23, 2012 7:57 pm

    A-Joe per your 170 – Yes you go to the police… my train of thought.


  233. Bugaz July 23, 2012 8:14 pm

    So far talks of 12 recruits are showing interest in decomitting


  234. Warrior Dave July 23, 2012 8:38 pm

    The guilty parties beside Sandusky will be dealt with shortly. Thought I heard a report that PSU has set up a 1.5 billion dollar fund to settle the pending lawsuits by the victims, reportly getting 100 million each. that’s a lot of money but it will never be enough to overcome what happened to them.

    What the NCAA did results in much discussion. If Sandusky was stopped sooner there would be less victims. Problem is that Jo Pa, the AD, President and others covered it up. Shame on them for that. Now the innocent must pay for their wrong doings.


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  236. kev-1 July 23, 2012 9:09 pm

    Paterno not doing anything about it WAS wrongdoing.


  237. gmahoney July 23, 2012 9:21 pm

    Mo, “smu” is used on the blog is when someone gets out of hand, by attacking others and usually after the Tsai Master has issued warnings. If unheeded, the posts get deleted. Sometimes, a poster is temporarily or permanently blocked from posting.


  238. Bugaz July 23, 2012 9:43 pm

    Misunderstood the info put out earlier about recruits decomitting. So sorry was just a QB and DT from this past class


  239. mo808 July 23, 2012 9:43 pm

    Mahalo SteveM & gmahoney!

    I appreciate everyone’s input and the different perspectives on the smu term!

    Nytal!


  240. Bugaz July 23, 2012 9:44 pm

    240 lol


  241. Bugaz July 23, 2012 9:45 pm

    Aw shucks missed it


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  243. mo808 July 23, 2012 9:55 pm

    Buga, no give up get 250 coming up soon!


  244. mo808 July 23, 2012 9:56 pm

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  245. Double B July 23, 2012 10:38 pm

    DoubleB:

    July 23rd, 2012 at 1:13 pm

    @150 c’mon he didn’t have to agree… He had to stand up like a man and kick Sandusky off the Campus period. He didn’t. That’s why the powers that be at the time are all gone. They got off easy.

    A-joe:

    July 23rd, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    MCB- I’m sooo glad you brought that up. Read it again and look where it says, “knowledge of criminal investigations.” It doesn’t say, “knowledge of a convicted criminal.”

    Huge difference!

    I do believe we live in a society that everyone is innocent until proven guilty. So please please please I ask of you, show me where Paterno admitted to know Sandusky was IN FACT convicted of molestation and yet still allowed him on campus. Because if you even bothered to read the 1998 transcripts, Sandusky was investigated but never convicted.

    DoubleB- Yeah! Lets go with your train of thought. What if it was someone else who got accused of molestation. Paterno is told of it and reports it to his superiors. Later, Paterno sees the accused with access throughout campus. Say Paterno questions authorities why this is so. Paterno’s told the accused is innocent until proven guilty and has the right to have access. Paterno says this is not right and does what everyone says he should’ve done; He oversteps his superiors and calls the Police. Police file an investigation. The report becoems public knowledge. Now it gets into the news. Suddenly, the accused is found innocent.

    Then what.

    Was Paterno right in overstepping his chain of command? Should he go straight to authorities everytime he sees injustice? What if he’s wrong? Double-B, It’s totally cool if he publicly ruins an innocent’s life, yeah? Just as long Paterno stood up like an 80 year old man and kick some “false accusation ass!”

    Paterno did what was right. He followed protocol. With all we now know Paterno’s now being accused of not doing enough. Everyone’s looking for someone to blame. He wrongfully happens to be the biggest target.

    Per your 260 thanks. But whom were you quoting with “false accusation ass” because it wasn’t me.


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  249. Bugaz July 23, 2012 11:00 pm

    Great work on those schedules CC!


  250. Bugaz July 23, 2012 11:00 pm

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  251. SteveM July 23, 2012 11:06 pm

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  253. madeinhawaii July 23, 2012 11:40 pm

    I guess now it’s up to the victims to collectively or individually file suit against Penn State, Sandusky and whomevery or whatever they please. Don’t know if the statute of limitations will apply, though.


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  255. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:03 am

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  256. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:11 am

    Penn State.

    as a die hard believe the client till the day I die kinda guy,

    i wuz pulling for Coach Paterno, hoping that his reputation wouldn’t get tarnished.

    but watching the fallout… from the Sandusky trial… Louis Freeh report, takng down the statue, watching the PSU President removed, watching the AD removed…

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  257. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:22 am

    g’nite everybody.

    hope Coach made it to Vegas ok. da drive is nice… clears your mind if you tee total it ova da hump. :mrgreen:

    always exciting to go to Vegas.


  258. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:23 am

    playing UNLV is always exciting. here, there, no care. they are our In State competition.


  259. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:24 am

    260. yes i can!


  260. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:35 am

    ahem…

    STATE COLLEGE, PA. — A potential exodus of star athletes. No hope of playing in the postseason. More than a decade of accomplishments erased from the record books. And Joe Paterno’s legacy in shreds.

    Penn State football, a longtime powerhouse that was once one of the cleanest, most admired programs in college sports, escaped the so-called death penalty from the NCAA on Monday but was dealt a heavy blow that will cripple it for years to come.

    The university agreed to an unprecedented $60 million fine, a four-year ban from postseason play and a cut in the number of football scholarships it can award — the price it will pay for having looked the other way while Jerry Sandusky brought boys onto campus and molested them.

    The NCAA also erased 14 years of victories, wiping out 111 of Paterno’s wins and stripping him of his standing as the most successful coach in the history of big-time college football.

    “Football will never again be placed ahead of educating, nurturing and protecting young people,” NCAA President Mark Emmert declared.

    Penn State meekly accepted its punishment, pledging to hold itself to high standards of honesty and integrity.

    Penn State spokesman David La Torre said university President Rodney Erickson had no choice but to acquiesce, given the threat of a total shutdown of the football program.

    “It was clear Penn State faced an alternative — a long-term death penalty and additional sanctions for the program, university and whole community. Given the situation, he believed the sanctions offered and accepted was the appropriate and course of action,” La Torre said.

    At a student union on campus, several dozen alumni and students gasped, groaned and whistled as they watched Emmert’s news conference. The news was a crushing blow to many students.

    Nicole Lord, a senior, questioned why Penn State’s student body, and especially its athletes, should be punished “for the wrongs of three men and a monster.”

    “They keep breaking our hearts and breaking our hearts and breaking our hearts,” she said.

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  261. d1shima July 24, 2012 12:35 am

    Happy Anniversary Stephen and Wena!


  262. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:39 am

    what I would like to get out of the PSU deal is…. a kicker… anna coupla oline bruddaz for UH.

    :mrgreen:


  263. d1shima July 24, 2012 12:41 am

    …for the love birds

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  264. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 12:42 am

    anna letter from the ncaa clearing TG to play this year.

    anna sit down kuka kuka between Rockne, Chow, Greenwood, Hinshaw and whoever else they want to invite, to see if they can agree that the players at UHAD are up to the task of running UHAD into the future.


  265. d1shima July 24, 2012 12:53 am

    …and since they are apart right now

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  269. BigHiloFan2 July 24, 2012 1:52 am

    maybe Coach Chow and Temp AD Freitas can talk to PSU, help a dying brudda wit a glassa watah wit ice chips befo day pick his pocket. invite them to come hula hula wit us.

    :mrgreen:


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  271. Wes'side Warrior July 24, 2012 2:02 am

    Morning, everyone!

    Great stuff, c_c!!!

    Congratulations and a Happy Anniversary to ST and Wena!!!


  272. Wes'side Warrior July 24, 2012 2:03 am

    Oh, and an official Happy Anniversary to Da Blog!!!


  273. Wes'side Warrior July 24, 2012 2:15 am

    As is the case, at least once a year, we get a topic that takes off, and causes some real heated back-and-forths between everyone here.

    Discussion is good. Healthy discussion is real good.

    But gotta remember, making your point(s) is fine. Just don’t need to take it to the point of getting people “on your side” to “win” the argument.

    Each of us were raised similar, in a different way. Our life experiences allow us to see (and yes, maybe even know) things maybe differently than others. Doesn’t mean that we’re always right, and the others are always wrong or whatever. What is of paramount importance to one, may not be to someone else, because of background.

    So, good arguments with open minds, and no name calling… especially since some of us wen grad from public skoos!


  274. Hilosupaman July 24, 2012 2:22 am

    As much as I enjoy the great debate… I vote we change the subject.

    How about We talk about how greatful we are for ST! Happy Anniversary Tsaikos!

    Thank you for creating alsace for Warriors around the world!


  275. BNS July 24, 2012 2:51 am

    Happy Anniversary Stephen and Wena


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