Sure, there were fist bumps and other such unsightly celebrations for middle-aged folks when a get-tough plan was announced to the UH Board of Regents. It went something like this: Meet the budget (or, at least come close by $1 million) or else programs will be cut. In three years.

As an old fart who has witnessed we-really-mean-it threats for decades, the response should be: Hah.

That tactic might have worked at Saint Mary’s when it dropped football (coincidentally, UH associate AD Carl Clapp served as the Gaels’ AD at the time), but it won’t cut it here, so to speak.

First, football is safe. As the Wonder Blunder hearings showed, it’s not up to an AD or chancellor or, even, the regents to lop football, as if it were some line item like improvement seminars. Everybody has to be on board, including the governor, and that’s just not happening. Hawaii might love its teachers, but it loves its football even more. (Actually, it loves winning football, but that’s a subject for another post.)

So, football is safe. The women’s sports are safe. If you charge admission, there’s the potential to make money (or come close by $1 million), so men’s basketball, men’s volleyball and baseball are safe. The golf guy raises a lot of money and doesn’t spend a lot, so he’s safe. And so, the bubble sport would be … swimming? Really? All this hold-my-breath-and-hope-to-spit threats over swimming? And would UH really want to cut a sport in a state that is surrounded by, uh, you know … water?

Which goes back to the original response: Hah.

Now it’s easy to blame a program for failing to reach budget “expectations,” which is synonymous with: This is what I think. Maybe.

But can’t projections be adjusted? Let’s say you want to sell 100 boxes of cookies, but pre-sales are only at 30 boxes. Do you still order 100 boxes? As our columnist reports every other day, UH has known since training camp that season tickets for football were down. Why couldn’t the projections change? (Side note: My father, who was a partner in a large New York accounting firm, worried himself into high blood pressure and cardiac problems because of the CPA’s code: “If the numbers don’t add up, it’s the CPA who’s in trouble.” He died at age 43.)

So, dear fans, feel bad about the extra turkey and starch you ate last night, but not about missing a game or so. UH’s budget woes are not your problem.

* * * * *

Hey, we were hungry, so the Turkey Bowl was 21 plays:

• 1-10 from 50 — Jason Muraoka rush for 0 yards

• 2-10 from 50 — Taylor Graham incomplete to Quinton Pedroza

ª 3-10 from 50 — Graham incomplete


• 1-10 from 50 — Muraoka rush for 7 yards

• 2-3 from 43 — Muraoka rush for 2 yards

• 3-1 from 41 — Muraoka rush for  4 yards

• 1-10 from 37 — Graham incomplete

• 2-10 from 37 — Muraoka rush for 0 yards

• 3-10 from 37 — Graham complete to Donnie King for 7 yards


• 1-10 from 50 — Fumbled snap. Jeremy Higgins recovers for 1 yard

• 2-9 from 49 — Higgins complete to Pedroza for 8 yards

• 3-1 from 41 — Josh Gonda rush for 0 yards


1-10 from 50 — Graham incomplete

2-10 from 50 — Gonda rush for 3 yards

• 3-7 from 47 — Graham complete to Pedroza for 47 yards. Touchdown.


• 1-10 from 50 — Graham incomplete

• 2-10 from 50 — Graham to Penitito Faalologo for 5 yards. (When he landed, a player yelled: “Don’t hurt the ground”

• 3-5 from 45 — Graham to Austin Slade-Matautia for 14 yards

• 1-10 from 31 — Graham incomplete

• 2-10 from 31 — Muraoka rush for minus-2 yards

• 3-10 from 33 — Graham incomplete (Barry Higdon pass breakup)

* * * * *

Avis has selected MarleysDad as winner of the T-shirt. He’s 2-for-2 this week.

The third-person-speaking host will deliver it at the luau.


  1. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 9:59 am


  2. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 10:01 am

    Noticed the blog server is doing a lot of thinking or security checks before allowing you in.

  3. (Jesse)James November 29, 2013 10:02 am

    ST…I got your shirts…Should I bring it to the Banquet on Sunday??? 🙂

  4. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 10:04 am

    Yep, I have my own budget problems to take care of, just spend wisely.

  5. (Jesse)James November 29, 2013 10:06 am

    I had to miss 3 games this year because of weddings…..Didn’t feel so much that I was adding to UH’s budget woes…but felt bad for not morally supporting the team with a presence at the game….and missed all the camaraderie with my fellow Tsaikos…. 🙂

  6. (Jesse)James November 29, 2013 10:06 am

    JTL….Looks like many are black friday shopping…LOL Just me and you this morning…. 😛

  7. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 10:13 am

    “Soldier, there’s a drunk Tsaiko at the top of the hill talking crap about us.
    Go get that Tsaiko and bring him here to me”
    The soldier comes rolling back down the hill all bust up.

    The soldier’s Officer sends a fire team up the hill, “Bring that Tsaiko to me ASAP”
    Three soldiers come rolling down the hill more bust up.

    A platoon is sent up the hill to bring the Tsaiko down for some good old Army punishment.
    The whole platoon comes back down from the hill, again, bust up.

    The Army Officer is in disbelief and grabs a limping Soldier for an explanation.
    “Private, what the hell is the problem in bringing in a drunk Tsaiko?”
    The Private responds, “Sorry sir, it’s a trap, there’s two of them”

  8. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 10:14 am

    (Jesse)James, you got married 3 times this season? 😯

  9. Old School Dave November 29, 2013 10:16 am

    I believe that it is imperative that UH hire a university president that is supportive and understands the role of Division I athletics at a university. To have university president who expresses a disdain for athletics and lacks an understanding of its role in the big picture will result in long term negative ramifications down the role.

  10. Old School Dave November 29, 2013 10:17 am

    should be “down the road” not role. Too much turkey yesterday.

  11. NorthShoreFan November 29, 2013 10:19 am

    Good Aloha Black Friday, Tsaikos

    Make sure the deals weren’t marked up 400% before you buy um at 50% discount….lol

    Off to brave the Black Friday discount shoppers and fight with the parking monsters.

    If I don’t make it to see tomorrow……….IMUA WARRIORS!!!!

  12. NorthShoreFan November 29, 2013 10:21 am

    Wouldn’t be surprised to hear JJ got married 3 times this season…he’s one lovable dude…lol!

  13. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 10:22 am

    Failing to meet gender-equity requirements is punishable by federal funding being withheld. It is the school that would absorb the punishment, not just the athletic department. Thus, it should be the school that pays for women’s sports. Because if Title IX requirements aren’t met, every department in the system will feel it.

  14. mo808 November 29, 2013 10:23 am

    ST, sorry to hear about losing your Dad so young…

  15. mo808 November 29, 2013 10:24 am

    Congrats to MarleysDad!

  16. 3-Prong November 29, 2013 10:24 am


  17. nanakuli November 29, 2013 10:25 am

    June Jones looks burnt out after the SMU – Houston game.

  18. (Jesse)James November 29, 2013 10:30 am

    #8 @JTL….Well, I have been pushing for polygamy….LMAO 😛

  19. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 29, 2013 10:45 am

    Is the cost of that beach volleyball program negligible? When they decided to expand the program by adding that sport, I figured there must have been some revenue potential or else why grow when we can’t sustain what we already have?

  20. Derek November 29, 2013 10:56 am

    Looking at the plays from today’s scrimmage, Graham’s performance is terrible. Consistency sucks. Better get the JC QB quick and get him into spring practice to get some much needed reps.

    Forecast for tomorrow’s game looks gloomy. Might rain.

  21. Old Diver November 29, 2013 10:57 am

    What cutting does to the athletic department is make it less competitive. Less competitive means less revenue. This soon becomes an unintended race to the bottom. It is fair for the BOR to put pressure on any department to run as efficiently as possible and for a department like athletics to generate maximum revenues. IMO any announcement by the BOR which reminds the athletics department red ink won’t be tolerated is a message that we know you have a problem and you must deal with it first before crawling to us for help.

  22. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 10:58 am

    I think sand volleyball is a big part of the Ching complex. On one side, there are the playing courts. On the other side (where the outdoor basketball courts used to be), there are the practice courts.
    Project has been slow-going. But now there’s a Jan. 28 deadline, I believe, so suddenly everything is being built rapidly. Why it couldn’t be built earlier, I’ve got no answer for that one.

  23. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 11:02 am

    The defense blitzed nearly every play, which caused problems for the young offense.
    Of course, that would be a good strategy for the defense to blitz more in games. Well, maybe not against Army, but you get the idea.

  24. Kevin November 29, 2013 11:06 am

    There are too many factors when it comes to cutting sports, but its quite foolish to publicly come out and say cutting sports at UH is a possibility as that kind of press can only generate a negative outcome for the all coaches in all sports at UH that may have that question posed to them from a prospective recruit.

    Also with regards to projections ordering 100 boxes and on the track to only sell 30 and continuing to order 100 is bad business ESPECIALLY if one still orders 100 boxes yet only prepares to sell 30-50 which is what I think has been happening. Yes a winning team will sell more tickets on its own merit, but there needs to be creative thinking to be done to try to sell a difficult product… good business will find a way when painted into a corner and blaming the consumer for not buying is NOT smart business.

    Lastly, it is time to charge admission to some of the current non-revenue sports. This can make some money… IF and ONLY IF the athletic department is prepared to promote and market such teams as viable “products” for the consumer. Contrary to current and ignorant opinions shared by others amongst the blogging community a product is only as good as what the company selling it makes it out to be. Slapping a price on a product and doing nothing to follow up on it accomplishes nothing. Sure people can point to softball once charging admission when the “stadium” was built and no one came.. well aside from slapping admission on it, what was done to promote the program back then???? I said it over and over again… UH is looking for more revenue streams, yet they overlook the opportunities right in their own hands.

  25. manoa2 November 29, 2013 11:06 am

    The fiscal problems at the University are bad and getting worse.
    While cutting athletic teams may not be in the mix, something has to give.
    The attitude of every department at the UH is to ignore budgets– they all over spend on the theory that someone always comes up with the money. But those days are coming to the end because the Legislature is no longer handing out the money. They have served notice that the regents need to start doing their job and the same for the high paid administrators (the President’s Salary and the Chancellor’s salaries we all know are too high and their credentials and skills too low– but that extends to every level of the University– librarians get overpaid and get lifetime tenure even down at that level). The UH needs to increase tuition and this will impact all, including the costs of all the tuition .for scholarship athletes

  26. Jeezy33 November 29, 2013 11:06 am

    New scrimmage, same Taylor graham.. Lot of incompletes…

    As far as money goes, I thought the purpose of bringing in Ben jay was because he was some expert in raising funds…. Hasn’t done a whole lot yet.

  27. Glenn November 29, 2013 11:08 am

    Who the heck is Austin Slade-Matautia?

  28. Fei Jai November 29, 2013 11:11 am

    Nothing sacred what I learn in life. Lose enough money, then cut out. Chow not stupid this I know. He will make 1.5 millions in coming years, no matter his win-lose records.

  29. st. anthony trojan November 29, 2013 11:12 am

    Today we really need to get mucho votes for Ms. Emily Hartong…
    She needs to pull away from the bunch to make a positive impact..
    Remember to vote every day.. if we all do so.. she will be victorious..

    The second place student from Florida is getting closer….JUST A FEW PERTCENTAGE POINTS NOW SEPARATE THEM…we can;y let her loose.. Tsaiko’s….n Tsaikoets….GIVEEF’EM


  30. brian November 29, 2013 11:13 am

    Stephen, I wish you would start talking about ousting “chow fun”. you as a veteran sportswriter for UH sports should know “chow is pau”, the program is going nowhere under him.

  31. tommui November 29, 2013 11:13 am


    DR wrote in his column recently about the Athletic Fees charged by UC Davies – or one of the UC branches at $675.

    Our BOR and Administration with encouragement by the Legislature, with great courage(?) on their part, raised the athletic fees to $50.00!

    Then the BOR says meet the budget!


  32. tommui November 29, 2013 11:18 am


    Old School Dave commented in #9: “I believe that it is imperative that UH hire a university president that is supportive and understands the role of Division I athletics at a university.”

    I noticed in simple looking around the Arena that no one from the Administration seem to be at any of the games (other than when something is being presented – and the photographers and TV cameras are present).

    On the other hand, I always seem to spot Virginia Hinshaw at lot of the games.

  33. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 11:21 am

    Actually, UH should go the cable route.
    Oceanic and UH should partner to do away with pay-per-view and make the UH channel part of basic cable at, say, $5 a month. At an estimated 300,000 cable households, that comes out to $21 million. If they split the fees, that’s $10.5 million for UH. Problem solved. Thank you, thank you.

  34. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 11:23 am

    I will give Tom Apple a lot of credit for the orientation week for new UH students.
    There were a lot of helpful activities that week.

  35. Kevin November 29, 2013 11:24 am

    I miss Virginia Hinshaw at the helm.

  36. A-House November 29, 2013 11:25 am

    yep, tommui – we see Virginia on TV all the time supporting any team!

    perhaps the apple fell the other way?

  37. PurpleMaple November 29, 2013 11:27 am

    What is or was concerning to me was Chancellor Tom Apple’s suggestion (threat) that unless the numbers improve, UH Administration is compelled to consider moving the program to DII. This, from a guy who was in his job around three or four months. He was so quick to suggest such a drastic move; a move that is or was a cause for concern. And now the latest, cut programs unless the financials improve. My opinion, knee jerk reaction by administration. I suggest they find ways to improve the program and fan support. Get the community to buy in. Threats don’t usually work.

  38. Bowwar November 29, 2013 11:29 am

    ST: Actually not a bad idea..Has anyone shared this with BJ?? This whole Pay Per View deal has to be fixed FAST…With contract renewal set for next year, they have to make sure that Pay Per View doesn’t affect the gate attendance.

  39. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 11:41 am

    ST gives us objective observations on the sports that he covers.

    Columnist, like Reardon stokes the fire if he feels like it.

  40. st. anthony trojan November 29, 2013 11:41 am

    Hey JEEZY…… don’t feel bad.. when we need a completion…
    send in Higgins… 1 for 1 = 100 % completions rate…

    What a blast…. go in for 2 or 3 plays.. n expect good results….


    ME have never been in that situation… in sports..
    wonder how Mr. Higgins feels..

    20 or so plays is a joke..
    should have been divided equally
    20 reps 4 each..the turkey can wait..
    don’t know how they are run a scrimmage…
    but should be under game conditions
    with a clock.. never been there so can’t understand why was so short..
    are coaches on field or sidelines ?? should be a scrimmage for coaches also..
    god knows they need the practice..of time and game management…


  41. Kevin November 29, 2013 11:48 am

    Allegedly UH looked into having a UH app for smartphone users. Dunno what the details of the app were, but for those that use apps to pay bills, follow the pro leagues, etc… then you know how useful it can be.

    Too often UH fans are confused or not aware of certain things.. basic things like the schedule for the teams. I suggested via email that the app should be able to send text message reminders for upcoming games to one’s phone as well as be able to send text message alerts with regards to the parking lot situation for on campus games and the ticket availability as well for games that could be sell-outs. For the outdoor sports where weather is a factor, people can have easy and direct access to the app to view the status of any cancellations or postponements.

    The UH app should also allow for easy ticket purchasing giving the user a scanable or unique code to show on their phone to the people working the gates at the venues to allow instant access instead of having to go to the will call window or print out their tickets.

    If they want, UH could charge a “deluxe access” fee for the app to view exclusive app-only content such as live streaming videos of what is happening during TV timeouts for those not in attendance to see (i.e. mic the team benches, see what the coaches are doing, intermission promotions, etc…).

    Apps now are so interactive and because of the heavy usage of some apps for companies, they can also generate another form of revenue with ads as well.

    In any case, dunno if that UH app will ever see the light of day and in conjunction with that wasn’t there supposed to be a “social media cave” of sorts that was to be run by UH Manoa students???

    The older aged customers and donors of UH aren’t getting younger and their income is limited.

    To groom and create a younger fan base, basic things like the above mentioned items are sorely needed to keep pace with today’s sports fans. Notice the keyword is TODAY.

  42. gobows November 29, 2013 11:48 am


    5 X 300,000 = 1,500,000 X 12 = 18,000,000 / 2 = 9,000,000.

    it’ll never happen…too good of an idea.

  43. d1shima November 29, 2013 12:25 pm

    Fales is succeeding.

    Carr is in high gear.

    MWC QB shootout in progress….

  44. st. anthony trojan November 29, 2013 12:27 pm

    ha ha ha ST… GOOD IDEA.. but who would promote the program to the 3000,000 possible cable households.. the athletic dept of UH??? They would have a hard time coming up with a promo
    to give away “FREE” heaters in Alaska… he he he….

    Kevin 41… wow.. they need you in the promo dept there.. forward thinking..maybe sumone can inquire all about that with sum major school….up there in the USA… HE HE HE I AM SURE sum big time school already has a app like that… …YOU THINK MAYBE ???

    Now take two ideas.. n sell it to all over the world…wow.. me here in Manila can watch huh…woopie…

    Hope it is implemented in next 20 years..he he he two very good n doable ideas…lets get the promo dept up there in the athletic dept. working on it… he he he

    In that vain.. why not just get the jumbotron at the stadium to show highlights live…on the net..
    WOW THAT WOULD BE COOL HUH…no need to show all live.. maybe 5 ot 10 minutes delay…the long runs.. the passes for 1st down say.. no need the 3 yard plays etc..they must be hundreds of fans all over.. maybe wouls like to see on phone or computer..i am sure many on outer islands also..IMUA


  45. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 12:29 pm

    Thanks. My math was off.
    Still, I like the idea because, in a way, it’s sharing the bill.
    Nobody is going to get peeved by $5 a month. Well, unless you’re a DirecTV subscriber.

  46. d1shima November 29, 2013 12:43 pm

    Boy, after all the scoring last week in Laramie, by the time Fresno and San Jose are done no one will be able to say there is any D in M-W-C.

  47. Hon2255 November 29, 2013 12:46 pm

    Cut men’s Vb women’s track. Swimming. Sailing. Mr. Tsai please be more impartial and opinionated. Are u on a gag order by UH officials. Trying to put a rope on reporting that’s tainted with crap. The football program is in shambles thanks to Greenwood and Freitas. Now Apple and BJ. The last two should be fired if Chow isn’t removed. !!

  48. Dino November 29, 2013 12:51 pm

    fresno st in a dog fight right now at san jose st. fresno st BCS hopes (and potential hawaii share of the big $$’s) are on the line in a close game, with the bulldogs trailing the spartans, 42-41, at the half, in a wild back and forth 1st half that took over 2 hours and included 12 touchdown passes. fresno st.’s carr to WR burse hookups look very similar to brennan to bess back in the day. a close game, and of course a loss, by BCS#16 fresno st. would benefit BCS#14 northern illinois in the BCS computer rankings.

  49. Andrew November 29, 2013 2:07 pm


    I don’t think Fresno would get in to the BCS even if they win out. NIU is gonna get the bid before them and I don’t think any of the bowls would take a 2nd non automic qualifiying team as an at large either.

  50. Andrew November 29, 2013 2:10 pm


    yes agreed, too much of an offense heavy league. Hard to say how effective the offenses are considering how poor the defenses are as well.

  51. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 2:11 pm

    You can’t cut women’s sports. Gender equity.
    Some people just don’t pay attention.

  52. Andrew November 29, 2013 2:14 pm

    45. ST

    Great idea. I find it hard to believe that idea would ever come to reality though. Seems like it becomes such a battle for mostly anything to happen at UH.

  53. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 2:17 pm

    A mistake would be to drop a level.
    The expenses would be the same unless somebody figures a way to teleport teams across the ocean.
    But, yet, the competition would be not as marquee-like.

  54. Shoko November 29, 2013 2:23 pm

    Fresno’s secondary might be a weak link, but I didn’t think it was this bad.

    On the bright side, at least Fresno doesn’t have to worry about Deruyter leaving for bigger schools yet.

  55. gobows November 29, 2013 2:29 pm


    the swim team is pretty good, and the sailing team regularly competes with AND beats the top teams in the country. water polo is nationally ranked. cheerleading has won a national championship. kinda hard to say what goes, but certainly can’t cut any women’s sports.

    mens vb has the potential of making money.

  56. Marleysdad November 29, 2013 2:29 pm

    WOW, again?? Thank you Steven & Avis & Anonymous Donor.

    So far, so good. Luck has been on my side since shaving my head…….it’s only weird if it doesn’t work!

    See ya’ there sunday, unless you see me tomorrow!

  57. Kevin November 29, 2013 2:31 pm

    Stephen Tsai:
    November 29th, 2013 at 2:11 pm
    You can’t cut women’s sports. Gender equity.
    Some people just don’t pay attention.

    Meth is a helluva drug…..

  58. Marleysdad November 29, 2013 2:38 pm

    #55, without MVB, might not get Tuileta. Plus they just got a commit from that kid from Kalaheo?

    Hord to say what to cut.

  59. jimmy the lock November 29, 2013 3:22 pm

    Evidence points to the anonymous donor of the t-shirt to be DaPunchbowl Kid. Afterall, ST did name the pic dpk-300×225.jpg. Just playing detective.

  60. Rodney November 29, 2013 3:23 pm

    Ikaika I is the future!!!!!!!!

  61. Da Punchbowl Kid November 29, 2013 3:27 pm

    Gratz Marleysdad!

    Good idea about the UH sports TV package, Mr. Tsai. Reminds me of the old adage “How do you eat and elephant?” And the answer of course is “One bite at a time.” Small bites are best, five dollars a month aint much, and would encourage broader viewership and hopefully, by extension, support. Make it an automatic part of the OC16 package. And a slight bump in student athletic fees can’t be a deal breaker.

    Meanwhile, looking forward to a big win from our Warriors tomorrow!

  62. NotNasti November 29, 2013 3:36 pm

    Ellison = America’s Cup. Possible sailing team benefactor?

  63. Da Punchbowl Kid November 29, 2013 3:47 pm

    jimmy the lock –

    We both know that Stephen is a confused senior, a grand father a couple of times over. Perhaps what he meant to infer, and I’m just thinking like a confused old senior reporter here, is the “dpk” in the phrase you mentioned simply stands “da pixel kine”.

    Besides, WHAT IF I DID DONATE THE SHIRT?! Whatcha gonna do about it, Jimmy?! (Gee that really sounds like a line from a gangster movie: “Whatcha gonna do about it Jimmy?!”)

    Just kiddin’ with ya Jimmy – you and me, we know each other how long now, you’re alright kid. As far as I’m concerned you can say what ya want. 😉

  64. Shoko November 29, 2013 3:49 pm

    Kanoa Leahey in a suit and tie on ESPN 3.

    Guess you’re big time if you’re calling a game in a suit and tie.

  65. NotNasti November 29, 2013 3:52 pm

    UW Tuition Breakdown:
    Building: $464 x 3 = $1392/yr.
    Operating: $9830 x 3 = $29490/yr.
    Services & Activities Fee: $126 x 3 = $378/yr.
    Technology: $41 x 3 = $123/yr.
    IMA Bldg.(fitness ctr.): $32 x 3 = $96/yr.
    Facilities Renovation: $89 x 3 = $267/yr.
    What’s the relevance of comparing UW to UH? UW students are charged $328 more per year for their activities fee and do not receive free admission to sporting events. With an undergraduate student body averaging 32,000, that amounts to 12 million plus dollars. They are charged $267 for renovation of facilities ($8.5 mil/yr.). Get the picture?

  66. d1shima November 29, 2013 3:59 pm



  67. ai-eee-soos November 29, 2013 4:13 pm

    ai yah – no mo BCS money …

  68. d1shima November 29, 2013 4:20 pm

    Meh…I hope UHAD wasn’t banking on that happening fo right da ship.

  69. Shoko November 29, 2013 4:25 pm

    It’ not much. According to Craig Thompson, the conference would get 11 million and Fresno would get $4 million off the top before travel/ticket expenses, and the 12-team league would split the remaining $7 million.

  70. d1shima November 29, 2013 4:27 pm

    Lotsa (808) representation at Autzen tonight.

  71. Shoko November 29, 2013 4:28 pm

    Actually, I shouldn’t say its not that much. Comes out to approximately 630k or so.

  72. tommui November 29, 2013 5:08 pm

    #51 ST

    Must be nearly Christmas and you are behaving yourself with the patience of a saint.

    When people talk without thinking – or does not the capacity to do so – and you don’t slam them though no one would blame you – you must be on your best behavior and I hope Santa Claus notes it down.

  73. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 5:21 pm

    I won an award at the 1980 Rainbow Speech Festival. Basic rule of debate: Stick to the topic.
    Some people are so blinded by emotion, they lose focus.

  74. 3-Prong November 29, 2013 5:27 pm

    Pau Hana. Its Tirsty Time!

  75. jonj November 29, 2013 5:34 pm

    Samoe ole Taylor! looks like chow should “trim some more fat” as they say!

  76. jm2375 (iPad) November 29, 2013 5:36 pm

    Howzit Tsaikos! Hope you all had a great Thanksgiving!

    I’m biased, but you can’t cut men’s volleyball. UH ranks second in average home attendance, they compete in the toughest conference. Plus, I think Charlie Wade has done a good job recruiting with only 4.5 scholarships split among the 20 or so players, probably without too much help from upper campus.

    The team looks to be improved this year. For the first time, no transfers/JC players were brought in. There also seems to be a lot of depth this year. The new assistant coach brings a lot of international experience. I’m looking forward to the first game on Jan 2.

  77. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 5:51 pm

    They’re not going to cut men’s basketball, men’s volleyball or baseball.
    Like I said, the program on the bubble is swimming.
    And what do you save if you do that?
    I think UH needs to renegotiate the travel deals with MWC/Big West schools, and find other sources of funding.
    The other thing is I’d call security and send Vince Baldemor’s personal stuff to his house. He’s leaving, so get packing. Time to find a real fund-raiser.

  78. Doh Bell November 29, 2013 5:56 pm

    ST, what happened to the juicer Austin Hanson. It was funny when Alan Sampson kicked his ass. Hahaha.

  79. NYUHTx November 29, 2013 6:03 pm

    Oregon pulls ahead the Ugly Bowl. And I’m not talking about the play.

    Hawaii is going to cut swimming?

  80. kapakahi November 29, 2013 6:20 pm

    What ever happened to SB Allen Sampson?

  81. kapakahi November 29, 2013 6:22 pm

    What ever happened with Tony Grimes?

  82. kapakahi November 29, 2013 6:23 pm

    DE Iuta Tepa still a possible candidate for medical redshirt to regain another year of eligibility (for next season)?

  83. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 6:37 pm

    Allen Sampson has a torn hamstring. He graduates either Dec. 21 or in May.
    Tony Grimes is focusing on school. He could graduate in May.
    Tepa is pau after tomorrow, according to Tepa.

  84. Former UH Athlete November 29, 2013 6:43 pm

    Seems about on par for Taylor Graham this year…

    Anyways, regarding UH and money…. UH just lost their share of what would have been Fresno St’s would be BCS game, but alas, the team I called the worst undefeated team in the nation (4 weeks ago) is no longer undefeated. Their god awful defense finally cost them a game in spite of one of Carr’s best games of the year.

  85. kapakahi November 29, 2013 6:48 pm



  86. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 6:55 pm

    It was a little sad UH was counting on Fresno State to help its finances.

  87. Former UH Athlete November 29, 2013 7:22 pm

    On the bright side, I can stop rooting for Fresno. That was painful each week.

  88. gobows November 29, 2013 7:23 pm

    go vote for emily hartong to win the Lowes senior class award.

  89. kapakahi November 29, 2013 7:30 pm

    Losing 3 DEs (Woodard, Tepa, Cofer)…….returning Yap next season as only DE with significant experience……so hopefully Manoa & Castro step up……as well as Uti has these past 2 games.

    DE must be a priority area for recruiting……so hopefully UH still pursuing Mata’afa.

  90. oneseason November 29, 2013 7:37 pm

    From 2005 to Spring 2014, UH Resident Undergraduate tuition has almost tripled, with an increase of 161% (Ref.1, 2.). So it seems reasonable to look for areas of bloat. 4 year college tuition nationwide is rising at a rate greater that medical care (Ref.3). Whether a tuition increase is attributed to an “athletic fee”, “instruction”, “cuts by the legislature”, or the cost of avoiding a lawsuit, cutting “administrative bloat” would have to be looked at closely before I could justify tacking on another few hundred dollars a semester.

    2005-2006 …..$1,752………$3,504 (Ref.1)
    2006-2007…..$2,184………$4,368 (Ref.1)
    2007-2008 …..$2,616………$5,232 (Ref.1)
    2008-2009…..$3,048………$6,096 (Ref.1)
    2009-2010 …..$3,480………$6,960 (Ref.1)
    2010-2011…..$3,912………$7,824 (Ref.1)
    Spring2014….$4,572………$9,144 (Ref.2)

    “cutting administrative bloat by 5 percent would have saved the average student at a public four-year university $107 in 2007” (Ref.3)

    Ref 1.
    Ref 2.
    Ref 3. “Onward and Upward with the Cost of College”;

  91. Stephen Tsai November 29, 2013 7:44 pm

    There are a couple of surprises coming on board.

  92. Old Diver November 29, 2013 7:47 pm

    UH already has an underutlized source of funding, football tickets sales.

  93. Former UH Athlete November 29, 2013 8:01 pm

    90… That’s fun part of college football…. The roster turnover always keeps things challenging for coaches.

    If TK gets canned, that’ll open the door for UH to possibly go to a 3-4 defense. The returning DL sets up well for that alignment. Kennedy/Rasmussen are athletic enough and have excellent size to bookend the 3 man front. Yap could move to Rush-end/OLB along with Castro. Malepeai and Samia would rotate at NT. Then Moana and the others can rotate in.

    Moving Yap/Castro to OLB solves Art Laurel’s vacancy. JGW is the other OLB. I think UH has enough young LB talent to replace Daley + 1 more to fill out the 3-4. The other option is to go 3-3-5 on passing situations or full time vs RnS/Air Raid offenses. UH has plenty of DBs to play a nickel set.

    Looking back at this year, UH would have been better suited in a 3-4… Daley and Laurel’s lack of speed wouldn’t have been quite as big of an issue. UH did go 3 man front in some games, but they did it with Yap and Woodard at the DEs. That’s just not nearly enough size to hold up vs the run, and both Yap and Woodard have issues shedding blocks.

  94. Slugger November 29, 2013 8:19 pm


    #33 – ST, you are so smart. Your Dad would be proud of you. But, what’s the MWC contract agreement about the TV revenues? I forget what they agreed upon.


  95. ai-eee-soos November 29, 2013 8:33 pm

    # 93 … Jerry Glanville is available. He applied for HC at Eastern Mich.

    What I like about Glanville is that he teaches GANG tackling (and legally piling on).

    The past few games showed that our guys had a hard time stopping the big RBs;

    gang tackling would’ve helped.

  96. ai-eee-soos November 29, 2013 8:39 pm

    91.Stephen Tsai:
    November 29th, 2013 at 7:44 pm
    There are a couple of surprises coming on board.

    I hope the surprises are able to play right now (2014), and not have to sit out.

    … gotta win in 2014, odda wise ….

  97. 3-Prong November 29, 2013 8:54 pm

    Fotu’s finger affecting his shooting.

  98. st. anthony trojan November 29, 2013 9:18 pm

    i hope the “surprises coming on board” are for a DEFENSE coach..n sumone in the booth…with those 2…we go 6 – 4 next year..if both are ne good…we need coaches that can inspire n put sum fire in the gut of those men on the field…playing above ones head is a misnomer…one can only play to ones ability..but the concentration is what makes the difference….like chaminade did to virginia.. n uh did to nebraska .. beating them in lincoln…after the beating they took at the termite palace…..

    UNFORTUNATELY not to many seem to care about Ms. Hartong…if the trend continues… she will loose.. very sad that the people of the state of hawaii won’t back her….


    SHE HAD 20 kills tonight.. in uh win..

  99. wafan November 29, 2013 9:51 pm

    Go BasketBows!

  100. 3-prong November 29, 2013 9:51 pm

    Love how Gibs team is attacking on both ends of the court.

  101. wafan November 29, 2013 9:51 pm



    It has been a long while.

  102. wafan November 29, 2013 9:52 pm


  103. kapakahi November 29, 2013 10:21 pm

    #91. ST,

    Would be nice to get Mata’afa to come on board too!

  104. kapakahi November 29, 2013 10:24 pm

    #91. ST,

    Heard about at least one DL BCS bounceback (that saw significant PT his true frosh season) that UH is pursuing from the Cali JC ranks (with 3 to play 2).


  105. Derek November 29, 2013 11:12 pm

    I feel down after seeing Oregon State and Washington today, our first 2 opponents next year. We will be blown out big time at home so that’s 0-2 going into the 3rd game against Northern Iowa. Not a pretty picture. I want to be upbeat, but reality always kicks in. The big question is, who is going to be the starting QB next year? Sean Mannion will be a senior next year at Oregion State. Cyler Miles is the heir apparent at Washington and Biship Sankey, RB will be a senior next year too. UW has a bunch of young receivers who are good and fast.

  106. papololoco November 30, 2013 7:47 am

    I said this about a month ago but was anybody listening, NOOOOOOOO! The football is the Money Maker for the Univ. and it’s on life support. If it doesn’t generate any money then say goodbye to a lot of programs. The fact that we could lose 3 of our first 4 games next season doesn’t help. It’s like I said before, they can’t afford not to fire Chow and his staff. Just take the loss now and move forward or risk losing 3 times as much next year.

  107. papajoe2 November 30, 2013 7:47 am

    Good morning everybody!

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