Quick turnaround

It will be a quick turnaround for the Warriors, who will have 12 hours between the end of yesterday’s twilight practice and the start of this morning’s practice.

Because of the past weekend’s bye, the Warriors were able to squeeze in a 70-minute practice at Ching field yesterday. On the usual Monday of game week, the Warriors would only have weight-training and conditioning drills. Yesterday, the offense and defense worked against the scouts portraying Rice’s schemes.

The Warriors’ secondary should be strengthened this week. Safety Trayvon Henderson, who did not play against Colorado, is back. Nickel corner Nick Nelson is expected to be cleared. Daniel Lewis is back at safety after a game at running back. The Warriors also have been giving a lot of reps to first-year Warriors, such as cornerback Jalen Rogers.

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Former UH defensive backs Ryan Mouton, Myron Newberry and Gerard Lewis said they will be attending the Rice game.


  1. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2014 6:00 am

    Sounds good.
    Hope all of this personnel propels UH forward.
    It’s time to be optimistic.

  2. whitey September 30, 2014 6:14 am

    good morning tsaikos.

  3. UHfan808 September 30, 2014 6:31 am


  4. UHfan808 September 30, 2014 6:35 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos!

    Sounds like things are progressing as they should!

    Good going, Warriors!


  5. UHfan808 September 30, 2014 6:39 am


    Sounds like a nice get-together!

    Don’t forget to snap a group photo of the three former defensive backs!

    Btw, all day yesterday I could not get BBQ ribs outta my mind hehe 😀 ..yumz!

  6. 3-Prong September 30, 2014 6:49 am

    Mouuuuu! Remember seeing Mouton outside the stadium when he was hurt. Couldn’t believe how small he was. Just goes to show it ain’t the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog. Mou coud play!

  7. A-House September 30, 2014 7:08 am


    thank you for the quick link in your “last post” to get to the new post!

    very nice day in the valley!!!

    see you at the Rice table

  8. letsgowarriors September 30, 2014 7:14 am

    quick recovery by nelson!!!

  9. SC September 30, 2014 7:19 am

    UH 14 Rice 28

  10. Kris September 30, 2014 7:21 am

    Charlie Rice got fired after 2+ years and a 6-22 record this week. Norm Chow is 5-23 in his tenure at UH. Two of his wins are over FCS opponents, while a third was against non-scholarship Army. How can anyone justify him keeping his job much longer?

  11. tom-warriornation September 30, 2014 7:30 am

    Rice tailgate info from my buddy Mel:

    Hi folks,
    the Rice parking lot opens at 3pm so we will be there at that time. We will be looking to setup the tailgate at the following locations in descending order of preference, West Lot 2/3 upper left corner, West Lot 2/3 Upper right corner, Greenbriar lot upper left corner. The Rice university stadium map can be found at http://www.riceowls.com/ot/rice-parking.html. Look for the Hawaii State flags.

    Remember, BYOB, and a dish. Weather forecast calls for sunny skies high 84 degrees, perfect football weather.

    Cougar04, please bring the lomi salmon, I do not believe anyone else will bring that dish. The wife is waffling between chix adobo, cone sushi, or juk, we should bring them all, lol.

    We will have fun, and we hope to see everyone there.



  12. NorthShoreFan September 30, 2014 7:31 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.

    Franklin BBQ.. http://www.yelp.com/biz/franklin-barbecue-austin
    lady waited 3 hrs to get in?…nutz.

    hope the Warriors are healed up and ready to rumble…IMUA WARRIORS!

  13. tom-warriornation September 30, 2014 7:33 am

    Still got tix for the SDSU game on Oct. 18–come sit with over 250 Hawaii fans (including the families of Kody Afusia, Malachi Mageo, Tyler Hadden, & TJ Tamatuia) at the 30-50 yard line 10-20 rows behind our Warrior bench @$20 each. Text Tom at 415-324-0585.

  14. NorthShoreFan September 30, 2014 7:41 am

    Houston bbq guide.. http://www.thrillist.com/eat/houston/best-bbq-restaurants-best-places-for-bbq-in-houston

  15. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2014 7:43 am

    Meanwhile, hubby and I enjoyed our lunch at Gyotaku in Pearl City yesterday.
    It wasn’t Tony Roma’s, though.

  16. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2014 7:56 am

    Here are photos of the lunch special at Gyotaku:


    Not bad for $11.95.

    My first time there.

  17. hatakeman September 30, 2014 8:02 am

    Is the latest move of Daniel Lewis back to the secondary a signal that they have the running back depth resolved? If so, then who is No. 2 behind Lakalaka? Is there a No. 3 RB for the Rice game?

  18. gobows September 30, 2014 8:15 am

    Kris 10

    1 reason is money…but the real reason is the guy in charge sked pull da trigga…same reason why gib is still here.


    norm will be back next year, it’ll be an amazing feat to recruit with only a season left.

  19. Wes'side Warrior September 30, 2014 8:34 am

    Morning, Gang!

    As long as we can consistently move them chains, they can move anyone anywhere. Let’s get this offense moving! Heal up, Warriors!

    Wow, Gigi! That food looks ‘ono! Maybe I should make another cup of coffee…

    Have a great day, everyone!

  20. 3-Prong September 30, 2014 9:03 am

    Gigi: the early bird special W-Fri before 6:00pm. Pretty much same as the lunch special, but 3 shrimp temp with no salad 12.95 i think. Winna winna das one cheap dinna! hehe

  21. jeffdman200 September 30, 2014 9:06 am

    Rice 48 hawaii 24

  22. gigi-hawaii September 30, 2014 9:09 am

    Wow, haha.
    I would gladly trade a veggie salad for 3 shrimp tempura!

  23. jojo September 30, 2014 9:19 am

    Back to back practices are good! I wish I could make my workouts 12 hours apart. Very beneficial!

    Happy end of September, folks!!

  24. (Jesse)James September 30, 2014 9:49 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!!
    Hope everyone has a great day.

    Nice to see some of the moves being made. If the offense can just step up and click, we can win some games…something just doesn’t seem cohesive with that unit yet. I think the D will step it up and have that “perfect” game that Coach Klune is looking for soon. I’m a defensive kind of guy so I may be biased on that point though…LOL

  25. beans September 30, 2014 10:33 am

    I understand Puu-Robinson is back and traveling with the team to Rice.

  26. Shoko September 30, 2014 10:39 am

    I thought it was interesting when Charlie Weis was terminated at Kansas his offensive coordinator was John Reagan who was Rice’s offensive coordinator last year and helped the Owls win the 2013 CUSA championship. Makes you wonder why a coach would take a chance leaving a program that came off a successful season to work for a head coach that’s on the hot seat.

  27. Andrew September 30, 2014 11:08 am


    More $$$. Plus if he went to Kansas and helped to make them successful, then that makes him look even better considering it would be in the Big-12

  28. Shoko September 30, 2014 11:14 am

    27. Yep, more money and better financial support. Reagan seems to be a young up-and-comer, though, and probably wouldn’t have problems finding another job. If he’s not retained by the next coaching staff, Chow should make contact.

    In other news, first case of Ebola virus confirmed in Texas (Dallas) of all places.

  29. Andrew September 30, 2014 11:26 am


    I’m not surprised it has reached the U.S. What I am surprised about is their lack of control of the disease in Africa. As inhumane as it sounds, I think they should have border locked the area and not let anyone leave to contain it before it had spread.

  30. cocobean September 30, 2014 11:26 am

    #24. I have a feeling this may be the breakout game for the D. The coaches should have gotten a feel for what each player brings to the table and will fit them into the proper packages. The players should be more comfortable with the schemes and I expect the timing on their blitz’s should be improved.

    I’m just a little worried that the starting corners and safeties are playing nearly every snap. Clune may add a nickle or a dime but rarely rests a starter.

  31. hatakeman September 30, 2014 11:27 am

    I thought this was an interesting insightful view of coaching, results and recruiting: “Anyway, that kind of record can get you fired midway through your third season and, in Weis’ case, it did just that. And even of [if] he rattled off three or even four wins in 2014, the program’s perception would have barely changed. Convincing recruits that Kansas is a healthy program and an ok place to spend your college career was going take a change at the top, so letting Weis finish the season made little to no sense.” reference rivals.com, Rob Cassidy, September 30, 2014.

  32. Shoko September 30, 2014 11:28 am

    I think what makes it so hard is that these Third World countries usually don’t have the resources like other more developed countries therefore making containment more difficult.

    Just notice on the Rice football roster they have a running back that’s 4’9″ 140 lbs. I assume he must be pretty fast.

  33. Shoko September 30, 2014 11:35 am

    And on the flip side of early coaching changes…

    “In a society that has little to no patience for underwhelming performance, people seem to forget that to truly give a coach a chance you need to give him 4-5 years (i.e. a complete recruiting class). Instead, though, everyone wants their “ommpa loompa now” and if a new coach doesn’t roll in with an immediate bowl game then he is a complete failure and it’s on to the next one. This is no way to turn a program around.” (Brandon Tobias – Sports Illustrated)

  34. Shoko September 30, 2014 11:38 am

    Wow, this guy looks tiny on the field.

  35. Former UH Athlete September 30, 2014 11:45 am

    Mouton, Newberry and Lewis will add about 5% to the projected game attendance.

    Shoko, If you mentioned “Rice” and 4’9″ RB to anybody on the islands, they would think you were talking about Hawaii Division 2 High School Football.

  36. ai-eee-soos September 30, 2014 12:07 pm

    …. w-a-a-a-y off-topic …


  37. (Jesse)James September 30, 2014 12:54 pm

    #30…agreed. Although I do think, or at least it looks to me, like the players are in better condition than in the past. I thought I had read that a number of players had played for a large percentage of the snaps in during the first few games …and that some of them played all of the snaps….at least in the first two games of the season….or something like that….

  38. oneseason September 30, 2014 1:13 pm

    #33 … Almost never winning should not be the only criteria for lack of progress. And while 4 to 5 years could be argued as being necessary to fully evaluate recruiting, I think it is reasonable to ask what is meant by “underwhelming performance”.

  39. C-Pop September 30, 2014 1:40 pm

    #33 – Kansas cutting their expensive losses, they’ve seen enough again.

  40. kawika49 September 30, 2014 2:01 pm

    When will they (any team) hire a female coach (in any capacity). They always out think us guys, and are more meticulous.

  41. kawika49 September 30, 2014 2:14 pm

    How about the H store, have a trade up week. You bring in any MWC conference T-shirt; you get 20% off. You bring in any other FBS team T shirt you get 10 % off.

  42. Boolakanaka September 30, 2014 2:38 pm

    More compelling and starkly sober news about football and it’s effect on the brain.

    As the NFL nears an end to its long-running legal battle over concussions, new data from the nation’s largest brain bank focused on traumatic brain injury has found evidence of a degenerative brain disease in 76 of the 79 former players it’s examined.

    The findings represent a more than twofold increase in the number of cases of chronic traumatic encephalopathy, or CTE, that have been reported by the Department of Veterans Affairs’ brain repository in Bedford, Mass.

    League of Denial, FRONTLINE’s investigation into the NFL’s concussion crisis airs tonight on many PBS stations. (Check local listings.)
    Researchers there have now examined the brain tissue of 128 football players who, before their deaths, played the game professionally, semi-professionally, in college or in high school. Of that sample, 101 players, or just under 80 percent, tested positive for CTE.

    To be sure, players represented in the data represent a skewed population. CTE can only be definitively identified posthumously, and many of the players who have donated their brains for research suspected that they may have had the disease while still alive. For example, former Chicago Bears star Dave Duerson committed suicide in 2011 by shooting himself in the chest, reportedly to preserve his brain for examination.

    Nonetheless, Dr. Ann McKee, the director of the brain bank, believes the findings suggest a clear link between football and traumatic brain injury.

    “Obviously this high percentage of living individuals is not suffering from CTE,” said McKee, a neuropathologist who directs the brain bank as part of a collaboration between the VA and Boston University’s CTE Center. But “playing football, and the higher the level you play football and the longer you play football, the higher your risk.”

  43. SteveM September 30, 2014 2:51 pm

    tom-warriornation has obtained info on the UH-Rice tailgate at the stadium (see #11 above). While I believe it will be a large one and generally open (especially to Hawaii fans), I suggest you contact tom if you plan to attend.

    tom also has first-hand info on the UH-SJSU tailgate. That one is open to everyone, as usual.

    If you plan to attend any UH football road game this year, please let me know for inclusion on the 2014 Tsai-ko Away game planner and logistics page at

  44. Pomaikaikeolahou September 30, 2014 3:12 pm

    UH vs Rice
    12    –    24    AlaWai
    14    –    28    SC
    15    –    27    Whats Up
    17    –    28    HiFlyer
    17    –    00    Ipu Man
    17    –    28    Derek
    17    –    28    4-Prong
    21    –    17    Lawaia
    22    –    21    BigWave96744
    24    –    21    Pomai
    24    –    10    kawika49
    24    –    10    tommui
    24    –    14    Masatoshi-san
    24    –    16    boolakanaka
    24    –    21    hatakeman
    24    –    23    bowwar
    24    –    31    C-Pop
    24    –    23    Silva
    24    –    48    jeffdman2000
    28    –    24    kev-1
    31    –    10    protector
    34    –    31    3-Prong
    35    –    14    UHfan808
    37    –    09    akuhead2
    38    –    14    Jack Flash
    38    –    21    wafan
    42    –    10    mo808
    42    –    21    oldtimer808
    56    –    14    d1shima

  45. AllG September 30, 2014 3:40 pm

    We seem to have more then enough depth in the Secondary, not sure why they don’t just leave Daniel Lewis at RB?? Our depth and quality of depth is really lacking there.

  46. jr September 30, 2014 3:50 pm

    how is joey doing.when is coming back.

  47. islandman September 30, 2014 4:15 pm

    #45 — Norm said on sports animals today the wants to give Diochemy some more time since he’s healthier now and also Pereese.

    He said Henderson is back for the defense and Pu’u-Robinson at TE.

    #46 –Norm said Joey is running a little bit and maybe next week or so he can try cutting .

  48. hatakeman September 30, 2014 4:47 pm

    We got thunder and rain here in Ewa.

  49. kawika49 September 30, 2014 4:58 pm

    I’ve seen fire and I’ve seen rain. I’ve seen sunny days that I thought would never end. I’ve seen lonely times when I could not find a friend, but I always thought that I’d see a win by, the Bows again. Let’ eat rice.

  50. hatakeman September 30, 2014 5:30 pm

    Well, that didn’t last long. Gone is the thunder. Gone is the rain. I see blue skies. But no rainbows. I hear they’re gonna ‘Show Up’ in Houston on Saturday.

  51. islandman September 30, 2014 5:31 pm

    Norm said he wants Woolsey to take more chances to make more plays instead of being so conservative, granted that he has not turned over the ball much, so far. Will we be grumbling about interceptions then ?

  52. pollypicador September 30, 2014 5:42 pm

    How has Hawaii played after bye weeks under Chow.


    9/21/13-Played at Nevada; Lost 31-9.

    9/15/12-At home against Lamar; Won 54-2.

    10/27/12-Played at Colorado State; Lost 42-27.

    Another known fact:

    Of Chow’s to-date-record of 5-23…14 of those losses have been by 14 points or less.

    19 of Chow’s 28 games the team has either won the game or hung close.

    2 of the losses to USC and OSU in 2013 the team hung close.

    7 of other losses were blowouts (20+ point losses).

    Of the teams on both the 2012 and 2013 schedule at least half the teams Hawaii played went to bowl games.

    My question:

    Can the argument can be made, in defense of Chow, that his record is not as bad as it seems and it’s unfair to label Chow as worst Hawaii coach ever (lower than VA).

    My answer:

    I think you can defend Chow. 75% of the games Chow has coached while at UH his team has really hung toe to toe with the opposition. Although Chow has not met expectations I think it would be unfair to say Chow is an embarrassment to the Hawaii program. Add a prolific QB, RT, DE, DB to Chow’s teams from the start (and have minimal injuries) , and I would bet money Chow’s team instead of being 5-23 could easily be 17-11.

    Reading the Na Koa luncheon report for 9/22-post Colorado game.

    The OC, Wynn, conceded part of the problem to the offense is the center snap to the QB. Absolutely. 100% spot on. The quarterback needs to get the shotgun snaps to the QB quicker, not hanging up and slow because that slows down the QB. (former C, Tiwanak, was one of best I’ve seen at snapping the ball).

    My prediction for the game.

    I have a real good feeling about this game. Grab the 6 points in a heartbeat.

    I think the outcome can be a 1-3 points either way.

    UH over Rice 28-25.

  53. islandman September 30, 2014 5:48 pm

    #52 — good analysis. Close only counts in horseshoes though.

  54. 808WarriorFan September 30, 2014 6:23 pm

    If Ikaika struggles early, Chow had better yank him in favor of Taylor Graham. Can’t afford to let the game get out of hand early in Rice’s favor…..

  55. kawika49 September 30, 2014 6:50 pm

    I have a dream, that the (opposing) offense never reaches; the field. Yet wins with the opponents got zip.

  56. Fei Jai September 30, 2014 7:28 pm

    Hi Pomai,

    Rice 21, UH 17


  57. 4-Prong September 30, 2014 7:34 pm

    pollypicador: i bet if you add a prolific QB, RT, DE, DB to von appen’s offense, he probably would’ve had more success too.

  58. oneseason September 30, 2014 7:41 pm

    #52 … The UH Athletics 2014 Football Roster says Jordan Wynne is the QB Coach. I thought he was announced as the OC, but can’t find any evidence. Three years without an OC, and absolutely no indication things will change in the future. Whether that is due to lack of funds or otherwise, Coach Chow still ends up being general, the president, the king of the sea. This doesn’t seem to be working out very well.

    Of the 5 wins, only 2 have been against full FBS members (UNLV in 2011, and Army in 2012). A lot of the loses have been fairly close, but if its just a matter of luck, it ought to break our way too.

    The Coach was on 1420 and noted that certain key players needed to step up their play. He praised the defensive players and noted the contribution of the defensive coaches. As usual, there was no mention that offensive coaching or play calling needed to improved. So that says to me that he is pleased with the current offensive coaching situation, and we should not expect him to add an OC.

    I think the coach should be defended unless the losses make the Rainbow Warriors not eligible for a bowl game. With UNLV (#6), Rice (#18), San Jose St (#20), and Fresno St (#24) all in CBS Sports bottom 25 teams, that seems to give Hawaii a good chance for at least 5 wins. Since Hawaii is currently ranked #25, those 2 extra wins won’t necessarily be easy. 2 more wins would tell me things are looking up. Otherwise … not so much.


  59. tempmanoa September 30, 2014 8:19 pm

    There were blowouts where we were outmanned, but in many games Chow was competitive and in the game– proven by the close score, yet we lost and we lost 23 of 28 games. Clearly, something was wrong. Part of it was Chow learning how to coach and finding the right staff and players– it was just harder for Chow than some because he lacked experience at our level and was never a head coach. For Chow it really starts now– he has to start winning after the nose dive he took us on. We got the D, now get the O, and fix whatever caused us to lose those games in the past, and win starting now.

  60. cocobean September 30, 2014 9:11 pm

    #58. Tommy Lee held the title in 2012 but he was just a paper tiger. 2013 and this year no one has held that title. I’ve been pretty repetitive in saying Chow/WE really need an OC.
    I really feel Chow is in the same boat as Monte Kiffen. Both are well respected as Coordinators who’s philosophies and schemes have not held up to the evolution and adjustments football has made. Chow’s philosophy and schemes seem to be made to handle Kiffen’s Tampa Two and Kiffen’s D was meant to handle the Pro
    Set and the West Coast. Going head to head with each other it would come down to talent, execution, avoiding mistakes and field position. Both have tried to adjust their schemes but have not strayed too far from their basic philosophies. Neither has had recent success in the area of expertise. Things changed but at their core they haven’t.
    I don’t doubt Chow could “fix” what’s wrong with his offense if he were just a full time OC. There in lies the most basic problem with the offense over the last 2 1/3 season. He just doesn’t have the time to be HC and fulltime OC. He’s too much of a micro manager getting involved with too many mundane tasks that should be delegated or disregarded all together. The most recent example is prepping a pregame or half time “snack.” There he was on game day overseeing the production and packing of PBNJ sandwiches. Pitching in making sandwiches all the while directing other what to do. I couldn’t decide whether to laugh or cry when I heard the news that on their only practice day at the stadium prior to the Udub game was spent familiarizing the new comers with the locker room and facilities. Then rehearsing how they would enter the field on game day.


  61. 808.AB.BC September 30, 2014 9:12 pm

    Best wishes to the Warriors at Rice. Get a win! The players need to feel success. Hopefully they can springboard themselves into a successful MWC season. Go Warriors!

  62. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2014 11:18 pm

    Jordan Wynn is the QB coach who also has a play-calling role.
    Basically, the offensive staff — Chow, Wynn, Naeole, Matthew and Moses — contribute to producing the game plan. It’s basically a menu of plays they expect to use against an opponent. Then Chow, I believe, scripts 12 plays. It’s actually 24, I suppose, because the plays flip-flop depending on the hashmark. Wynn, who is in the booth, largely calls the plays, although Chow can over-rule or make requests.

  63. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2014 11:23 pm

    It’s not unusual to use the stadium day as a dress rehearsal.
    Every UH has done it that way: McMackin, Jones, Wagner, Tomey, etc. Besides, even on the road, most teams use the stadium day as a walk-through to familiarize with lighting, background, etc.
    As for the pre-game sandwiches, that’s just an everybody-pinch-in effort during the down time. (It comes after the pre-game meal, when players, coaches, support staff, etc. have free time.

  64. Stephen Tsai September 30, 2014 11:26 pm

    Beginning this week, the level of competition — finances, recruiting, etc. — is more equitable. Now I’ve traveled everywhere, and it is true that other MWC teams have made tremendous gains in fund-raising and facilities, but this is the level where UH is and it needs to be competitive. The next nine weeks will be the test.

  65. cocobean October 1, 2014 12:42 am

    ST. In your opinion do you think Chow has a tendency for micro managing? I just can’t see Wagner, Tomey, Jones putting so much gusto into what was shown on Inside Access. To use Chow’s words it’s a task below his pay grade. Get the GAs to handle the “snacks.”
    I understand the familiarization of facilities. But to rehearse how to enter the field. I thought it would be more important to see how his team performs at night under the lights. They practice in daylight with blue skies and low stands. There should be some adjustment to sighting the ball whether it’s fielding punts, kickoffs or passes.

  66. Stephen Tsai October 1, 2014 5:45 am

    The time of that practice made sense because they had a 4 p.m. kickoff for the opener. They also did practice that day. It wasn’t like they walked out a few times, then headed back on the bus. They actually did the routines, practiced and then ate dinner at the stadium.
    I don’t think Chow micro-manages. But I think there are some responsibilities that come across his desk that he didn’t have to worry about when he was an offensive coordinator. For instance, he once was handed a bill for fertilizer for the practice field. He also has had to spend time looking over contracts for the portable towers used to film practices. I’m sure he would rather worry about game plans than ordering fertilizer, but that’s life for an under-funded athletic department.
    But this isn’t unusual at UH. I think every UH head coach has more off-the-field duties than the counterpart on the mainland.

  67. Stephen Tsai October 1, 2014 5:47 am

    Hey, now that you’re awake, please join us on this new post: http://hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=24303

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