QB Spain conquering injury


During afternoon summer workouts, it is “definitely in the 90s,” according to backup quarterback Kevin Spain.

Those are indeed promising conditions.

The number reflects the health percentage of Spain’s surgically repaired right shoulder. He did not play as a freshman in 2010 after suffering the injury during the summer. He will receive a medical hardship, and have four years to play four seasons.

“I’m getting to the point where I can lift more weights,” Spain said. “I was so weak before. I couldn’t lift enough to get any improvements. It was just stagnant type of stuff.”

Spain believes the injury was a culmination of playing safety in high school, lifting excessively and the “wear and tear” of throwing passes.

“When I came out here, I started lifting a bunch, doing hang snatch (lifts),” he said. “That’s when I think I really tore it. I was doing that and throwing a lot. That killed me a little bit.”

He underwent what he termed an intensive rehabilitation.

He gradually increased his workload during spring training, and threw during pass-route drills (against no defenders). But he did not take a snap during the Warrior Bowl.

“I don’t want to say  it was 50 percent (back then), but I threw a little more in the spring than I should have,” Spain said.

This summer, he has participated in the full conditioning program. In addition, he throws the half-ball — a football in which one end is flat, enabling the passer to play catch with himself by throwing the ball against a wall.

He also takes reps in unsupervised passing drills.

He expects to be ready for the start of training camp, which opens in a little more than two weeks.

“I just want to play football again,” Spain said. “I feel I’ve been a student for a year. This was the first year without football in my life.”



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Thanks you to djmitcho for providing us with photos of former Warriors Laupepa Letuli, Melila Purcell III and Ray Hisatake from last night’s AFL game between Spokane and San Jose.




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Interesting story on former UH running back Alex Green: Green story.

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UH football season tickets go on sale tomorrow: Football sales.

Unfortunately, the story does not list the cost of the premium fee. (Sort of like the sticker price not mentioning the extras.) Still, they are very reasonably priced.


  1. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:48 am



  2. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:49 am

    Healthy Healing thoughts for Kevin Spain.


  3. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:51 am

    d1: Hi guy!

  4. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:51 am


    Great Morning All!

  5. NYUH July 17, 2011 6:52 am

    Glad to hear about some of the other QBs although I have been a supporter of finding out what Forcier can offer.

  6. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:52 am

    Have a good day, everyone! Open your makas! Another wonderful day!

  7. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:53 am

    Midnight! 😀


    Hope you and Barbara are well…and managing to stay outta da heat!

    (btw, do folks there really say, “Texas Forever?”)

  8. ai-eee-soos July 17, 2011 6:53 am


  9. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:53 am

    Go Warriors!

  10. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:54 am

    Congratulations to WC Brian Viloria!

  11. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:54 am

    Barbara sez NO!

  12. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 6:55 am

    OK, here’s the “x”planation.

    I type on another system. When I transfer the story to the blog site, if I don’t bracket it initially with some type, then the pictures scrunch up.

  13. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:55 am

    15 consecutive days of 100+degree weather!

  14. NYUH July 17, 2011 6:57 am


    Buffs set on QB.

  15. d1shima July 17, 2011 6:58 am


    Oh, OK.


  16. Midnight July 17, 2011 6:58 am

    We get up early, do our walking, then take care of the lawn and plants so they don’t wilt in the heat. Watering must be done only between 6pm and 10am. Then we retreat into air-conditioned comfort.

  17. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:00 am


    Thanks for the link.

  18. NYUH July 17, 2011 7:01 am

    Good article on Green. I guess their is no debate about using the “pistol” anymore with the r & s in Hawaii. It’s too bad that LWJ, who proved its efficacy, did not have the chance to really benefit from it. He might have been in the pros too if it was incorporated faster.


  19. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:04 am


    JJ tried to Pistol, using LWJ, for two series in 2007. It wasn’t very successful.

  20. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:06 am

    😯 -ing photos!

    Nice….some exposure for Hawaii in Wisconsin, too!

  21. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:08 am

    That’s a very tiny “Shock” logo.

  22. haka July 17, 2011 7:09 am

    Go Warriors!

    The reign in Spain is plain!






    Go Warriors!

  23. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:14 am

    If they gave points for East-West yards LWJ woulda been pretty valuable for the Warriors

  24. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:15 am

    Clear eyes, full heart.

  25. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:16 am


    He should have been a kickoff returner.

    He was pretty good when he got the long strides going.

  26. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:17 am

    *snf snf*

    btw, did ya notice the “Street” reference?

  27. NYUH July 17, 2011 7:18 am

    ST: If you are talking about the Fresno State game I think you will find that he caught a couple of swing passes before breaking a big one of at least 40 yards for a TD.

  28. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:21 am

    …didn’t realize until the Finale that Riggins might be related to Glanville.

    “Seven’s in town?”

  29. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:21 am

    Without Google-ing it, does anybody know the name of the taxi company that uses Frank DeLima as the spokesman?

  30. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:21 am



  31. NYUH July 17, 2011 7:22 am


    I think LWJ run from the pistol is at about 1:38 here but the video is inconclusive.

  32. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:22 am

    …I guess it takes awhile for The Blog Host to look up stats

  33. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:23 am

    Da Cab?

  34. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:26 am


    Thank you.

  35. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:27 am

    I wrote “NYUH, thanks for the link,” but it wouldn’t post because it was a “duplicate comment.”

    So, we allow spam, but not duplicate comments?

  36. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:28 am


    Yep, sort of.


    I was watching the commercial and there’s a part that says “if you need a cab,” and then he breaks into his 2222 song.

    Sometimes personalities overwhelm the product.

    But enough about Chris Alt.

  37. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:30 am

    I’m Da simple guy.

    Da Cab

    Da Bus

    Da Stadium

    Da fuud…

  38. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:30 am

    I’m Da simple guy.

    Da Cab

    Da Bus

    Da Stadium

    Da fuud…

  39. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:30 am

    And if you were a district attorney?

  40. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:31 am

    Duplicate comments?

  41. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:31 am


    How come you can have duplicate comments?

  42. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:31 am

    I’m Da simple guy.

    Da Cab

    Da Bus

    Da Stadium

    Da fuud…

  43. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:32 am


  44. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:32 am

  45. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:32 am

    Getting ready for futbol?

  46. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:34 am

    Just got my newspaper delivered.

    I wonder if it has the Viloria fight?

  47. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:35 am

    Any idea how renewals did?

  48. NYUH July 17, 2011 7:36 am

    ST: I got that. thanks.

    That was the game Colt got leveled so I wonder if Graunke had worked out the foot work for the pistol.


    Anyway, looking forward to another 1000 yard runner this year.

  49. d1shima July 17, 2011 7:41 am

    Mack mentioned they are getting a new software for game film; do you happen to know the name of it?

  50. Jason July 17, 2011 7:47 am

    Here’s the pricing for tickets with PSCs:


  51. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 7:50 am

    Is the PSC per seat or per order?

  52. Jason July 17, 2011 7:59 am

    The PSC is per seat (as clarified by ʻAhahui Koa Ānuenue‘s website, and there is an additional $15 handling charge per order (as stated in the PDF).

  53. Jason July 17, 2011 8:00 am

    Forgot a closing parenthesis after website.

  54. BG July 17, 2011 8:09 am

    A “Good Morning!” and bbl…

  55. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 8:22 am

    USA! USA! How about some World Cup soccer? Lets go, ladies!

  56. warriorsun July 17, 2011 8:23 am

    looks like spain will be a 6-year player if he doesnt play this year, which is likely.

    shoulder injuries need careful rehabing. stay patient, using the time to mature and assimulate our offensive system. prolly see spain on the scout team this year. hang tough and stay healthy kevin, train smart…your time to show and tell– will come. best wishes.

  57. Robert July 17, 2011 8:32 am

    Getting ready for some football. USA! USA! USA!

    Can’t wait for some football. Go Warriors!

  58. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 8:38 am

    Kekoa, how did the mini cc at Nancy’s go? I was busy all day with our garage sale. Up at 5am., then off to coach, then brother-inlaw’s birthday. Didn’t read any posts until 11pm. I think, by then, you guys was already home. Except maybe for Koakane. bwhahahaha. Missed meeting some people I didn’t get to meet yet. Yyyyyyikes World Cup starting.

  59. huh? July 17, 2011 8:55 am

    coach m

    new field turf at aloha stadium

    does it need breaking in

    does it need to be taken on a test drive by the warriors

    will the warriors conduct more preseason practices on the new turf in getting use to it/breaking it in

    read where the former michigan coach was concerned as his team prepared for a season opener on new field turf at michigan stadium

    are the grounds crew going to water down the field to soften it

    or is good to go

    it doesnt matter

    just curious

  60. warriorsun July 17, 2011 9:10 am

    im going to spend time watching graves, shutter and higgins this camp–they represent the future and our 2012 mwc debut. for graves and shutter this will mark their 3rd year in the system.

    time to fish or cut bait. for the southpaw from kalaepohaku, he needs to display stuff that rises above the other two–tie-breakers will go to the QB with more vested in the system. that’s the way it generally works at manoa. we’ve been through this with rolo before.

    as far as tate forcier is concerned, we have learned that hawaii is in play, BUT the deciding factors are his michigan transcripts and summer results for make-up courses he took on-line…..im not comfortable with statements that say, “it’s in the mail”…..we are too close to camp and at this point, you start counting players that are present and accounted for.

  61. Slugger July 17, 2011 9:14 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Nice story on Spain, ST! Healing energy sent his way.

    djmitcho, great to see pics of the guys on the Shock. Mahalo!

    K, back to reading more pepah & drinking kope…

  62. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 9:21 am


    You’re correct in that if an injury takes more than a year to fully heal, then an extra year can be applied to the eligibility clock.

    I think Nate Ilaoa was given a sixth year for that reason.

  63. d1shima July 17, 2011 9:29 am

    What’s the O/U on the # of blown opportunities by the USA?

  64. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 9:39 am

    12 shots. Only 1 on goal. No saves by Japan goalkeeper because shots are all off target. I feel the momentum shifting. It may take only 1 goal to win it.

  65. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 9:48 am

    15 shots now, Papa.

  66. tommui July 17, 2011 9:51 am


    Nice story on Kevin Spain today.

    ST #36 – you sly!

  67. jm2375 July 17, 2011 9:54 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!!

    Congrats to Mr. Viloria!

    Hope Kevin Spain doesn’t overdo it.

  68. kawika49 July 17, 2011 10:02 am


  69. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 10:02 am


  70. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 10:02 am

    Any player who has to complete summer courses in order to be eligible is at the mercy of 1) the instructor’s prompt turning in of grades, 2) the admissions/records office prompt ability to input these grades into the official record and 3) the registrar’s prompt ability to send out an official transcript to UH. There are several key variables at play in order for these transcripts to be “in the mail. ” In other words, it’s best for a player to NOT put himself in a position where he needs to complete a summer class in order to be eligible. It’s not rocket science eh?


  71. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 10:02 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂


  72. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 10:04 am

    Given so, even though Edwards will be here this weekend to get a jump start on things, he will still need to go through the aforementioned process in order to be ready for camp. Hope his paperwork arrives on time.


  73. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:04 am




  74. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 10:04 am

    It’s plain the Spain has risen above the pain.

    Hope he’s at 100% soon!

  75. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 10:05 am

    howzit papa!

  76. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:07 am

    If USA can hold off Japan with good defense in the next 5 minutes, the flood gates will open. I predict more goals by USA, depending on the next 5 minutes. Japan cannot play to lose, so as time goes by, they probably will move more players “up” to try to score, leaving the “D” vulnerable.

  77. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 10:09 am

    Ten-q for da analyisisisis, pj2. 🙂

  78. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 10:11 am

    Papajoe, agree, continue to pour on the offense, forcing Japan to take chances, therefore putting pressure on their own defense.

  79. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 10:14 am

    Da announcer jus’ sed dat Japan will have to start taking more chances. Das wut you mean right PJ2?

    UH ooooooh.

    It worked.

  80. huh? July 17, 2011 10:15 am

    if spain was my son i would tell him not to say anything about an injury

    it doesnt make sense

    mostly because of the unpredictability of the ncaa, esp if he’s seeking a six year

    the part that spain said that he traced his injury back to when he played safety in hs i cringed

  81. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:16 am

    Japan scores.

    To me it looked like USA was sitting back on “D” trying to hold Japan to “not score” to win rather than trying to score to put it away. Backfires for USA. Either way its a gamble but, by laying back, you take your momentum away.

  82. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:18 am

    #66 tommui, what about me?

    Huzzit dpk, gma.

  83. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:22 am

    #81= momentum taken away on offense. Too much time was left to do that. Just my opinion. I don’t know if that was actually the plan.

  84. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:44 am


  85. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 10:45 am

    Hehehe, hi papajoe! GOOAAAL!!!

  86. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:49 am

    See #76 and 81. Same same.

    Lost connection on my computer that’s why comment late.

  87. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 10:49 am

    No sudden death?

  88. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 10:55 am



  89. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 10:58 am

    What determination, heart, for Japan.

  90. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:00 am

    No sudden death.Must play full 30 minutes of overtime. Local high schools and most club soccer is sudden death. You score, you win.

  91. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 11:00 am

    WOO HOOOOO!! Da neutralizer!


  92. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:03 am

    Red card Japan. Will play 1 player short but very little time on the clock.

  93. d1shima July 17, 2011 11:04 am

    Dey all short

  94. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:04 am

    Penalty Kicks.

  95. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 11:05 am

    Shoot out.

  96. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 11:06 am

    And it all comes down to this…

  97. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:07 am

    Although, Hope Solo blocked a key pk by Brazil, she guessed wrong on 3 other brazillian kicks. Still would rather have her in the goal than anybody else in the world, IF she is 100 %. She got tweeked late in the game.

  98. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:09 am

    Best of 5 to win it, rotating shots between teams. After 5, if still tied, then sudden death penalty kicks. Only players that was playing on the field when the final whistle can kick.

  99. d1shima July 17, 2011 11:09 am

    PK’s….sportsdom’s worst Deciding Factor

  100. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:14 am

    Congrats Japan. Well done.

  101. d1shima July 17, 2011 11:14 am

    1 of 26. Good grief…

  102. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 11:14 am

    Awesome match!

    Great effort both sides. I happy fo da Kepani sistas.


  103. Da Punchbowl Kid July 17, 2011 11:15 am

    Good job by Japan.

  104. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:20 am

    Back to Warrior football.

  105. Gmahoney via Ipad July 17, 2011 11:21 am

    Great match, lots of chances by the US. A worthy opponent who never quit.

  106. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:22 am

    Going back. USA will have to wait/prepare 4 years for the ultimate prize. Maybe Natasha Kai can get back in it?

  107. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 11:22 am

    Wambach’s classy for going over to shake hands. Very gracious.

  108. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:30 am

    This is like getting second in the Super Bowl, but the wait for redemption is 4 years. A lot of players will not be around.

  109. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:31 am

    I hope Kevin Spain keeps on keepin on. Positive thoughts to him.

  110. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 17, 2011 11:32 am

    From last night:


    July 17th, 2011 at 1:34 am

    A massive 7,000-unit residential development housing 20,000-odd people in the Aloha Stadium footprint would be insane. The concept reeks of the mainland urban “Projects” style housing developments of the 1960s that bred poverty, crime and social dysfunction. The solution to the need for more affordable housing is to upzone more land in the urban core to allow developers to build higher and denser but in diverse architectural styles and not all in one place: a quilt, not a straight-jacket. Areas like Mapunapuna and Kapalama are ripe for this kind of organic, patchwork community redevelopment and closer to employment centers. No Stalanist apartment blocks please!


    July 17th, 2011 at 1:41 am


    I think you are confusing affordable housing for like public housing projects or tenement housing haha.

    try go look at the “affordable” housing units that peter savio is selling at holomua and tell me if you think the “poverty stricken” could afford those.

    the definition of what affordable housing is, is quite remarkable.

    It CAN be different and geared towards middle class/lower middle class folks who make a decent living but can’t afford market rate housing. Not saying it will, but it can.

    Now the congestion and traffic and overall infrastructure is a totally different issue and one which could very well be disastrous.

    The core assumption being used by the Abercrombie Administration is based upon iwonderwhytheyhateme’s response.

    Furthermore, it will be part of Transit-Oriented Development. In addition to providing workforce housing for people who are currently employed in urban Honolulu, it will also attract commercial development in the surrounding area as well as out in West O`ahu.

    However, the infrastructure issues are ones which cannot easily be solved – potable water, sewer systems in particular.

    Unfortunately, the Mapunapuna area is not on anyone’s (re)development list because of the flooding which will get worse over time thanks to rising sea levels caused by climate change.

    As for Kapalama/Iwilei – that is already being planned/designed but primarily for economic development similar to the area around Costco plus significant upgrades to Honolulu Community College. Unlike the Stadium site, the area between downtown & Kalihi is well into the Transit-Oriented Development mode.

    Do I agree with Abercrombie’s plan for the Stadium site? No, which is why I have been pushing for the past 16 months to create a group of organizations & business leaders as well as decision-makers who can put together a realistic alternative.

    RE PRACTICE TIME ON THE NEW TURF: According to Stadium manager Scott Chan (telephone conversation on Friday) the coaching staff has not scheduled any practice time yet. The construction project itself is in its final phase of being checked out and should be ready to use well before the end of July.

    Perhaps Stephen can talk to the coaching staff to find out when the practices will be held and if they will be open to the public.

  111. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 11:36 am

    It’s sad ESPN didn’t bother to hire a translator for post-match interviews with the Japanese players.

  112. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 11:37 am

    Aloha Stadium practices are closed to the public.

  113. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 11:44 am

    ST — ESPN—- surprised?


  114. ya_think July 17, 2011 11:48 am

    Don’t get started on what King shorty has planned, the guy is a jerk.

  115. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 17, 2011 11:50 am

    112.Stephen Tsai:

    July 17th, 2011 at 11:37 am

    Aloha Stadium practices are closed to the public.

    Are you consider part of “the public” or will the media be allowed to attend?

  116. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 11:53 am

    Speaking of World Cup interviews, I missed Coach Pia’s. Did she say if USA went into a “sit back and protect our goal” strategy after scoring the first, or for that matter, both goals. After the 1st goal, it looked like it. Don’t know about the second goal but I would like to hear her thoughts. National soccer coaches change as much or more than NBA coaches. She may not be around for the next World Cup, but may not want to be around.

  117. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 12:00 pm

    Media are allowed to attend.

  118. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 17, 2011 12:04 pm

    Can I be your (volunteer) assistant go-fer?

  119. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 12:05 pm

    While soccer is at the world’s focus, I highly recommend ESPN’s 30/30, 2 Escobars. Although it is primarily about the Columbian National Soccer team, its also about a corrupt government, drug lords and their roles, Escobar the drug lord, Escobar the soccer player and his death following the game in which he scored the clinching goal for the USA, an own goal, in the World Cup eliminating Columbia. You don’t have to know a thing about soccer to enjoy this clip. Unfortunately, I don’t know how to access it.

  120. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 17, 2011 1:38 pm

    Is this blog still alive – last post was nearly one hour and forty five minutes ago.

  121. kawika49 July 17, 2011 1:43 pm

    Ist is called a Siesta.

  122. kawika49 July 17, 2011 1:44 pm


  123. HawaiiMongoose July 17, 2011 1:44 pm

    Capitol -ist, thank you for the response re Abercrombie’s plan.

  124. A-House July 17, 2011 1:50 pm

    I believe in any sport if a team has the mind-set “play not to lose”, almost always that team will lose. U hav to “play to win”.

    Have we seen this before with UH teams? Yep, yep, yep!

  125. A-House July 17, 2011 1:55 pm

    Personally, I hope that Forcier decidess to join UH. Why, becasue we need to change the “same 0, same 0” attitude.

    His commitment will certainly make the back-up QBs look up and decide how they can become smarter, stronger, and faster to make themselves and the team better.

    His commitment can also make a big difference in future recruits. Maybe even the 4-star WR who played with Alo in hs and made a “soft” commit to USC. What say U, al???

  126. madeinhawaii July 17, 2011 3:01 pm

    Are Forcier’s transcripts even in house?

  127. al July 17, 2011 3:18 pm

    well, today is sunday and the postal service is not working. fdx and ups don’t work either, do they?

    anyway, wouldn’t they, the fabled transcripts that is, need to be received by an upper campus administrator who’s office is closed on weekends.

    just wondering.

  128. HEINEKEN July 17, 2011 3:19 pm

    Breaking News:

    The Western Athletic Conference will invite Casey Anthony as the 11th member starting 2012

    Karl Benson quote

    “We are very excited to add Casey Anthony as the 11th member of the WAC starting 2012. We were very positive about the market Casey Anthony brings in. She has a national TV contract with a CNN & HLN TV contract that will bring some viewers to the Western athletic conference”

    Just my sense of humor 🙂

  129. al July 17, 2011 3:21 pm

    not a good situation because the chief recruiter on the forcier pursuit is going to be on the mainland.

    although that could be a good thing because a home visitation could help solidify the relationship.

  130. al July 17, 2011 3:23 pm

    this could come down to the wire because there are other prospects out there.

    usually a transfer or two becomes available right about now.

    since the force is one who’s to say another might not be available.

    just wonderng even more…or did i hear a subliminal message not to long ago.

  131. al July 17, 2011 3:23 pm

    i might run in to the little birdie tomorrow.

  132. papajoe2 July 17, 2011 3:23 pm

    I found it. If you have Oceanic cable, go to channel 957. Scroll to find ESPN then to 30 30. Click on the 2 Escobars. After watching this, you will once again realize that we are lucky we live in the USA. You don’t have to know anything at all about soccer as they don’t show very much of the games. Its more about a corrupt government and the drug lords’ tie in to the country and also its national soccer team. Very interesting. Warning, its 1 hour 45 minutes long, but the best happens in the end and involves the USA. Its a DOCUMENTARY.

  133. al July 17, 2011 3:25 pm

    ahouse…”…but you of little faith.”

    didn’t you tell me that he would never sign with hawaii?

  134. al July 17, 2011 3:30 pm

    124 …ahouse you picking my brains.

    i remember when we let cincinatti back in the game, mack learned a valuable lesson that day.

    a defensive minded coach plays not to lose. whereas, if he had that offensive mindset, he would have kept piling up the scores so that he needn’t worry about defense just the clock.

    i kept harping on that. it took him three years to play to win by keep scoring till your opponent bellies up.

  135. A-House July 17, 2011 3:31 pm

    ha! got you to respond and YES, I still say that the WR who committed to USC WILL NOT sign an LOI with UH. did i hear lunch to discuss its merits?

  136. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 3:36 pm

    Re: Spain

    No, he’s not seeking a sixth year. He’s trying to play this year.

    And, yes, it is better for him to discuss his injury. What hurt a couple of players seeking extra years was a lack of documented evidence. A printed story is documentation.

  137. al July 17, 2011 3:38 pm

    meanwhile it looks like our once awesome mbb recruiting class is getting knocked down by the academic hurdle.

    having first lost the best athlete of that class first, in deshawn mitchell and more rececntly 6’9″ c/f ronnie stevens, that list could grow even longer with two more “iffy’s” yet to qualify.

    two walk ons are in the picture. no scholies for them yet. gib is still trying to reload with a couple of under the radar guys yet to be named. (hint: arnold and arnold)

    however, patience is a virtue, stay tuned this still could be the best mbb recruit class in years. already hauns brereton and shaq stokes are tearing up the ncaa summer league. throw in davis rozitis who becomes eligible, he the seven foot c/f with skills, and this class will be great already.

  138. huh? July 17, 2011 3:41 pm

    #125,#126 etc.

    look at this picture, hypothesis, are they really waiting for transcripts or are they awaiting word of admissions acceptance..TF if he were to look at enrolling wouldnt he have to do this before the july 15 deadline?

    July 15 (F) Fall admission application deadline for post-baccalaureate unclassified students

    August 12 (F) Second session ends

    August 19 (F) Holiday: Statehood Day


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  139. huh? July 17, 2011 3:44 pm

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  140. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 3:48 pm

    They can get him in if he’s eligible.

    But they won’t bring him in for a visit until he sends transcripts. Ball is in his court. Or field.

  141. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 3:52 pm

    Players are allowed to discuss their own injuries. Nobody else is allowed to discuss another person’s injury without permission. Players sign waiver forms.

  142. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 3:57 pm

    There are some injuries we don’t disclose. One player played with a cracked rib. We waited until it was healed before mentioning it.

  143. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 4:03 pm

    Along those lines, because Austin Hansen doesn’t want to talk publicly about his suspension, we won’t disclose the violation.

  144. mctruck July 17, 2011 4:25 pm

    I was reading an article from the SJ-Mercury news paper and went back to see if I could find that article again to share with u’al……must have been a recent-older issue where one of their sports reporters mentioned that SJS weren’t about to consider recruiting Forcier because he has a long history of academic deficiencies.

    Considering he was declared academically ineligible by Michigan, and kept from playing in their bowl game last year before he decided to transfer to Miami?????…and then, closer to home, etc.??….I would say,(imo), UH will never see his transcripts…because he has none.

    He’s looking for some school who’s hungry enough to look the other way as far as his eligibility is concerned…(he believes in miracles). To which I say: DII, baby!!

  145. mctruck July 17, 2011 4:32 pm

    Is Rozitis the real deal???

  146. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 4:35 pm


    I do not know TF’s academic situation other than he was not eligible to play in the bowl game.

    Then again, there was a UH player who participated in the commencement ceremony, then a week later was not allowed to play in the bowl game. Not sure how a player was able to meet the requirements for graduation but not be academically eligible for the bowl game. But that’s the strange world of the NCAA.

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  148. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 4:40 pm

    The equation is pretty simple — if TF can come in for a visit next week, Rolo will simply need to change his flight plans for next week. Perrrrrrrty simple.


  149. mctruck July 17, 2011 4:41 pm

    back to Rozitis…have you seen him play in the summer leagues??, and good enough to play?, or just ride the bench kinda-guy??

  150. bigislandkurt July 17, 2011 4:43 pm


    Commencement ceremony is just that — a ceremony that students sign up to be a part of long before the semester is over. Consequently, the commencement usually happens the weekend following finals week. Instructors have until the following Monday to get grades in. Just because one participates in Commencement does not meant that they are all free and clear in terms of grades. That is how a player APPEARS to have met all the requirements needed for graduation and be declared academically ineligible for a bowl game.


  151. mctruck July 17, 2011 4:43 pm


    going full circle…..UH has to have his transscripts 1st, before they allow a visit.

  152. huh? July 17, 2011 4:43 pm

    Who’s Considered a Transfer Applicant?

    If you are currently or were previously enrolled at a college or university other than UH Mānoa and have completed 24 or more transferable credits, or completed at least 12 semester transferable credits and have at least 12 semester transferable credits in progress, you are considered a transfer applicant.

    is it hard to amass 24 transferable credits in 3 semesters?

    ic also-Late Application Petition Form

  153. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 4:44 pm


    Your theory is very good, as always.

    I just don’t know, for sure.

    There were some guys who were set to transfer to UH last year. They told me they were in good academic standing. Then they didn’t show up.

  154. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 4:48 pm


    Good question. Not sure of the answer.

    For sure, if you’re a non-qualifier, you need an AA and 48 transferrable credits.

    If you attended an NCAA school one year, then transferred to a JC, you also need 48 transferrable credits.

    Not sure what the requirements are for someone who is a qualifier trying to transfer from an NCAA school.

    He probably wouldn’t be able to play this fall, but then because of the transfer rules, he can’t play this fall, anyway. The key is where he stands in January 2012, I suppose.

    Anybody know the answer to this one?

  155. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 4:53 pm

    Mack had talked with TF for an hour. I’m sure he has a good understanding of the situation.

  156. mctruck July 17, 2011 4:58 pm

    If I was coach Mac, and if I actually got TF’s paper work in the mail…or a call saying it’s in the mail…like his mother said…for-sure-for-sure….I would be the 1st to make an announcement right quick…tick, tick….tick, tick.

  157. mctruck July 17, 2011 5:01 pm

    Bet he just sits out this year and gets his house in order to qualify…and then tsfrs to UCLA.

  158. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:02 pm


    He can’t comment publicly on a prospect.

    However, should TF not become a prospect, I’m sure he could talk.

  159. mctruck July 17, 2011 5:03 pm

    ur right….

  160. mctruck July 17, 2011 5:04 pm

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  161. Laura July 17, 2011 5:06 pm

    ST, if TF was really serious, mom could have faxed it over to UH. That would have been the quickest way.

  162. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:06 pm


    Thanks for stopping by.

  163. huh? July 17, 2011 5:09 pm

    who knows is a good question

    maybe ferd knows

    he can track down the answer

    in tf situation how many transferable credit does he need

    do i think both sides would go this deep into the game if tf was short

    i wouldnt think so

    #155 says the coach has a good grasp of the situation. i trust in this…for now.

  164. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:10 pm


    You are correct. That would have been the best way.

    I do not know if they tried that, or not.

    I pretty much wait for people to call me with updates. Nobody’s called in a few days. I didn’t go to UH Friday.

  165. Laura July 17, 2011 5:11 pm

    ST, btw, how did your dance rehearsal go?

  166. Laura July 17, 2011 5:13 pm

    ST, you do not go snooping around at UH anymore. 🙁

  167. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:14 pm

    UH just needs a transcript to bring him in for a visit. It doesn’t matter if he’s eligible or not, when it comes to the visit. If he were to commit, then his eligibility and credit count would matter.

  168. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:18 pm


    I can’t dance. Well, except for the Electric Slide, which everyone can do.

  169. Laura July 17, 2011 5:21 pm

    ST, the Warriors need to teach you the HAKA, so you know another dance. 🙂

  170. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:21 pm

    I imagine if there’s no progress in the next week, Mack will pull the plug on this. I don’t think he wants distractions entering training camp, which is a mere 15 days away!!!

  171. el burro sabio July 17, 2011 5:23 pm

    Tate would not be a post-baccalaureate unclassified student, which is an unclassified graduate student.

  172. Stephen Tsai July 17, 2011 5:23 pm

    OK, I’m going to do the yard now. Don’t want the A-Houses to keep wondering why I’m in the house blogging while the weeds are going wild.

    Great input today from everybody. Thanks again for stopping by. I’ll be back in a bit.

  173. al July 17, 2011 5:26 pm

    st…doing the yard.

    that should be the “job” of the other male occupants of your fine home. tell em you’ll pay them in breakfast, lunch, dinner, utility shared costs, and rent.

  174. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 17, 2011 5:28 pm

    Forcier has a twitter account and he posts there with some regularity.

    Wish he would update his “visit status” with UH.

  175. al July 17, 2011 5:29 pm


    he can bring the ball down on a fast break.

    he can finish.

    he can hit the three at least 1 out of three or better.

    he can hit the line at a 70% clip.

    he can bang, but.

    he can bang better/harder if he gained 20 lbs.

    he can defend the paint with his wing span.

    he can become the starting center if joachim does not return.

  176. warriorsun July 17, 2011 5:32 pm

    it’s becoming more and more apparent as the tate forcier adventure unfolds and dovetails into hawaiian waters, that mr forcier’s issues-in-transfer stems from academics. given the forcier gravitas for big name schools, uh is not only the furthest football program out west but perhaps, the last hope to secure acceptance. not the second chance kind, but “acceptance” in the world of academic qualification.

    this is a no brainer.

    on-line classes is an obvious clue.

    it’s not up to mac.

    the ncaa has transfer rules that apply equally in hawaii as it would in….say, miami.

    this we do know.

    mac would like to give tate a shot.

    forcier has run out of options and prolly would be willing to walk-on ala colt brennan.

    no one, iincluding miami and usc–will turn their back on academics.

    rules are rules….and this is a hole, young tate has dug and must climb out of–unassisted.

  177. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 17, 2011 5:36 pm


    I am not sure how far it got with the Miami thing…But if he was all set and ready to sign up for Miami and the NCAA rules for transferring are all the same, there shouldn’t be an issues with Hawaii right?

    Or does Hawaii have different requirements for academically eligible athletes.

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  179. warriorsun July 17, 2011 5:51 pm

    rozitis has shown game in the manoa summer league with muti-skills as advertized by arnold. how this translates to the college hardwood in november will be of keen interest. as far as rozitis starting if vander does not return–that is a decision only gib can make after roll-call is made in the fall. however, what is becoming apparent after two recruiting classes, gib recruits talented, but high-risk athletes. the attrition rate is noticeable. not sounding alarms, just raising red flags….

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  181. warriorsun July 17, 2011 5:57 pm


    you’re making a presumption with tate’s alleged “aborted” transfer to miami.

    idk, should you?

  182. iwonderwhytheyhateme July 17, 2011 6:01 pm


    Just going with what was published. He was going to Miami then changed his mind. He signed an “aid agreement” making his transfer official.


    So yeah huge presumption on my part…HUGE.

  183. warriorsun July 17, 2011 6:06 pm


    i believe it strongly matters to most fans if tate forcier is eligible or whether his pending eligigibility is close enuff to be rehabilitated prior to 2012. otherwise, why would his visit matter?

  184. jm2375 July 17, 2011 6:16 pm

    Laura – ST already knows the haka. 😆 😯 😆

    Here’s proof:


  185. Laura July 17, 2011 6:30 pm

    You are right jm2375, he diffinitely can do the Haka. ST’s problem is that he can do the Polynesian ones, just not the American ones. ST should do a few Polynesian ones for daughter’s wedding.

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  188. A-House July 17, 2011 8:23 pm

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