Pros and cons

There was an interesting debate yesterday between a scout and a coach over the value of  a pro day. The scout had argued that the “grades are in” before the pro day. The coach argued that a standout pro day performance can boost a player’s stock, citing how Ryan Mouton was selected in the third round last year. The scout argued that teams knew Mouton could play from his work against Florida in the 2008 UH opener. The coach argued that Mouton’s 11-foot long jump sealed the deal.

And so it went.

Both were correct. Yes, the grades might be in, but they also can be changed and, to further a bad analogy, the enrollment period does not end until draft day. Teams needing to fill training-camp rosters needed to see some of the UH prospects in person, particularly those who have limited work on video. Perhaps the most helpful aspect of yesterday’s UH Pro Day was when line coach Gordy Shaw gave scouts  his analysis of linemen Laupepa Letuli, Ray Hisatake, Aaron Kia and Raphael Ieru. Later, the scouts were able to see those players perform drills testing blocking and awareness.

Did that help? Sure. Did it change the players’ stock? Well, at least there’s more information — positive information, as it turned out.

Wideout Jovonte Taylor, who ran a 4.34 in the 40 (with a tight hamstring), and running back Daniel Libre, who had the top performance in three categories, are intriguing prospects for teams who go by the numbers.

The thing I liked most is that UH made the most to promote its players. Deep down, every recruit wants a shot at the big time, which is why many choose the Warriors’ offense or attacking defense. The UH coaches are doing their part to help, even if many are chasing impossible dreams. The players might not end up with NFL jobs, but they won’t have regrets, either.

* * * * *

If the polls closed today, Charlie Wade would be  the volleyball coach of the year. He’s done that good of  a job. He has the right coaches doing specific work, and he cured two big weaknesses of the previous two years: poor passing and inconsistent serving.

To be sure, opposite attacker Jonas Umlauft has factored in the improvement. He was trumpeted as the next Yuval Katz — a comparison because  he is playing Katz’s position. But Katz was the go-to hitter on an athletic team with good ball-control players. Umlauft, in contrast, is a good ball-control player. His ability to pass eases the pressure on libero Ric Cervantes and left-side hitter Steven Hunt. Also, because Umlauft is a threat on trouble balls and out of the back right, that opens the way for Joshua Walker on the other side. Umlauft’s value is in helping to make his teammates better. In that regard, he is everything the Warriors needed this year.


  1. myki April 2, 2010 5:55 am

    Good morning ST! How’s the weather up there? We’ll be off to the practice field in a few minutes. Hope the weather holds up in Manoa.

    Have a wonderful Easter weekend!

  2. bb April 2, 2010 5:58 am

    Who’s the coach?
    From what team the scout?

  3. d1島 April 2, 2010 6:01 am

    Great Morning All!

    Happy Good Friday…..

    Congratulations to those who helped themselves at Pro Day and best wishes to those who may still be in search of fulfilling their dreams.

  4. vakeleo April 2, 2010 6:03 am

    Hows the weather in Manoa? Kalaheo is raining this morning. I asked Vaughn if he was able to come home to help pour concrete for the carport and garage for the rental were making but I forgot he had spring training. I hear good things coming from Manoa, from the way the kids are conditioned and stuff to the attitude on the field. I hope to make it to a few practices this month. The team are coming to Kauai next Saturday so that’s one less trip I have to make. I got to meet Bulla (online) I heard he’s a funny guy. Anyways , have a good weekend and pray for sun.

  5. chopsueyboy April 2, 2010 6:18 am

    Happy Good Friday Tsaiko Nation!

  6. chopsueyboy April 2, 2010 6:21 am

    Always good to follow your dream to the fullest. No regrets. These guys are winners just for trying and giving their all.

  7. Stephen Tsai April 2, 2010 6:24 am

    It’s a nice sunny day in L.A.

  8. Stephen Tsai April 2, 2010 6:24 am

    It was kind of cool to see Bob Apisa at Pro Day.

  9. el guapo April 2, 2010 6:29 am


    You make a stand and you stick to it. I respect that!

  10. d1島 April 2, 2010 6:31 am

    Was Michigan St. invited to Pro Day?

  11. d1島 April 2, 2010 6:33 am

    Enjoy your stay in LA!
    You might really think about a Tommy Burger; it’s been years but memory says, “Yum!”


  12. expat April 2, 2010 6:48 am

    Umlauft could be completely dominating by the time he hits his senior year. It is great to see Charlie Wade back at UH and it is great he is having success.

  13. Pomai April 2, 2010 7:12 am

    Looks like rain over in Manoa.

  14. aurite April 2, 2010 7:16 am

    it is true that CHarlie Wade is doing a good job…BUT, and its a big one, it must be remembered that none of these guys are his players. Umlauft was recruited by Mike & Tino, if he can sustain this year’s success once he brings in his own players will tell us more.

  15. koakane April 2, 2010 7:17 am

    good aloha friday to tsaiko country

    ditto cwade for coach of the year. he and his coaches have done an excellent job with the warrior vball team. they are exciting and play hard. much mahalo to the seniors on the team.

    again good luck to all the warrior men who tried out in cali for pro day.

    keep dry to all those attending the spring ball today. but the rain is just blessings from the above. and if you need protection from it stand by bulla 😆 planning to join yu’all on sat. myki got scones I bring da kope?

  16. Garret April 2, 2010 7:17 am will officially change its name to on Sunday. I know that some people here watched Warrior games via ESPN360 in past years, and now ESPN3 will use enhanced video technology so it should give us a better picture.

  17. koakane April 2, 2010 7:18 am

    d1 spring ball sat?

  18. jm2375 April 2, 2010 7:27 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos! Happy Friday.

    Best wishes to all those who participated in Pro Day yesterday.

    See some of you at vb tonight. 😀 Before that, though, some of us do not have the day off and have to work. 😈

  19. Pomai April 2, 2010 7:32 am

    Mini cc for Saturday after practice, so far curveball, slugger and myself will be headed to Big City Diner after practice, so anyone who wants to join us is more than welcome.

  20. chopsueyboy April 2, 2010 7:33 am

    Redskins won’t tip their hand as Bradford, McCoy, Tebow visit

    Save the money on these visits and give Colt a raise with the starting QB job

  21. Slugger April 2, 2010 7:35 am


    I agree about Charlie Wade = Coach of the Year!

    Looking forward to the MVB games tonight & tomorrow.

    Good luck to the players who went to the Pro Day. Crossing fingers & toes for you.

    Off to campus…

  22. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 7:35 am


  23. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 7:41 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  24. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 7:42 am

    Wishing the best for all of the Warrior pro prospects. I hope Letuli has another year with the Warriors to raise his stock.

  25. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 7:43 am

    Good for Coach Wade! His team has been a real bright spot in UH Athletics this year.

  26. NYUH April 2, 2010 7:48 am

    I guess no news is good news re spring camp.

  27. Don Weir April 2, 2010 8:00 am

    Aloha Tsaiko’s

    Buenas Dias!!!
    5th of May = Cinco de Mayo
    Celebrating the victory of the Mexican revolutionary army over French forces at Puebla, Mexico

    Cinco de Mayo Fiesta at Tiki’s in Waikiki.
    Owner Kelly McGill (UH Warrior Football Alum #53) and his staff will be serving up great food and drink specials.
    ** Proceeds will be donated to the Warrior Football Program***

    More information to follow

  28. vballfan1 April 2, 2010 8:01 am

    In reply to comment #14, that’s whats impressive to me.
    He is turning a team full of players that finished in the bottom of the MPSF two years in a row, into winners. This team won no road matches last season, and while Umlauft is a big help the rest of the players have improved greatly.
    I think the team will be even better when Wade gets a few recruiting classes in. He and his staff are aggresive recruiters and have already signed a middle on the Junior national team from Florida.

  29. Kazz April 2, 2010 8:07 am

    To add…

    It is a valid point to say that it will be something else to see Coach Wade’s own recruits perform at a high level, but at the same time one cannot deny what Coach Wade has done with kids that were from another volleyball mentality.

    Coach Wade may not have recruited Walker, Cervantes, Umlauft, Nejc, Rawson, etc… but still to introduce them into a whole new approach to the game that has been very exciting and competitive compared to seasons past is nothing short of remarkable especially considering the quick transition from one season to another. We go from worrying about making the playoffs to being on the brink of hosting!!!

    Forget when the polls end!


  30. anonymous April 2, 2010 8:10 am

    I was pleasantly surprised that the HA sprang for ST trip to the UH Pro Day. Given the state of arrears that the HA is in, I didn’t think it was a priority for them in sending ST to cover the UH Pro Day. This may or may not be his last carnival ride, but you never know. Hopefully it’s not. Just wanted to say ahead of time in acknowledgments, in case a month or two months from now, there’s no bog or articles by ST that I do appreciate his work, including the WB show w/Leila, and especially of his apparent humbleness, witticisms.and tolerance for a wayward poster.

  31. papajoe2 April 2, 2010 8:29 am

    although i do like men’s vb, it’s not one of my very favorite UH sports. (football #1, basketball #2, w soccer #3, w volley #4, etc). What really like about this years mvb team is the adjustments that the coaches make, either during the game, or preparing for the follow up game the next night. This shows good coaching. The football team’s ability to do this was lacking. Maybe it was the organizational part with the coaches. Case in point: i’m not positive but, didn’t we “lose” every 3rd quarter and most 4th quarters? This to me, seems like a lack of organization among the coaches. Head coach Mac needs to organize the coaches so that they come to a better conclusion at half time, thus taking over the game in the second half. I believe that we DO have talented coaches, its just a matter of putting it all together, with the HC making the final decisions. The HC should have a clue during the game by talking with the OC and DC. or just by his experience in coaching, to put something together at half time for the second half. Something that seems minor was posted yesterday, in which all the coaches were wearing different types of clothing at practice. The coaches should at least, look organized with this being a multi million dollar comodity.

  32. Richie April 2, 2010 9:08 am

    From what I’ve read, it seems like John Estes is the only guy from last year’s team that has a shot of being selected in the late rounds of the draft. Regardless of the scout versus the coach debate, I am sure that there are those who have received at least free agent contracts based on outstanding Pro Day performances who otherwise would have never gotten a call. I am wondering if someone like Jovonte will actually get that chance for a free agent contract based on his Pro Day performance and whether someone like Blaze may still get a free agent contract, despite his hamstring pull, based on what scouts may have already known about him. I am glad to hear about the efforts that the coaches made for their former players.

  33. Daikon Fut April 2, 2010 9:14 am

    I’m guessing no practice reports today.

  34. Kazz April 2, 2010 9:18 am

    The anticipation continues…

    The Wahine head up to Las Cruces to face another team with a great team batting average, one that actually surpasses the Wahine. SJSU also had the same gaudy stats as well, but good pitching from Stephanie Ricketts put a stop to that and so did the improved play of the infield. SJSU really had about two players that could crush it, but NMSU has MORE and not to mention the thin air over there.

    That thin air has to have our batters drooling and Kelly Majam doing some Google Maps Satellite search of the nearest tennis courts on NMSU’s campus.

    A shootout perhaps?

    Nah! I’d expect Parnaby to have a better series than she did against SJSU in that lone outing and Stephanie Ricketts finds herself in the thick of WAC competition which is something she’s done before. 😎

    How do you stop home runs? Easy. PITCHING.

    How do you have/maintain good pitching outside of the pitcher herself? Easy. Maintain a steady performance in the infield. Well… Easier said than done.


    Saturday 04/03/10 at Las Cruces
    Game 1
    UH 9
    NMSU 7

    Game 2
    UH 4
    NMSU 2

    Sunday 04/04/10 at Las Cruces
    UH 8
    NMSU 3

  35. NorthShoreFan April 2, 2010 9:26 am

    Guuuud Morning Tsaiko land!…

    Much ado about measurements and times as the NFL gets into draft mode.
    Reminds me of some great players who do not measure up to NFL standards but are All Pros anyways.
    What measuring stick do they have to measure one of the most important characteristics…….HEART?
    Go check the stats and you’ll find a lot of “undersized” All Pros.

    Guuud day for football and baseball!….play nice peoples…

  36. Stephen Tsai April 2, 2010 9:37 am

    Princess Leila is covering football practice today.
    Dayton is covering men’s volleyball tonight.

  37. Don Weir April 2, 2010 9:41 am

    Automatic Payroll Deduction Information News

    I had a conversation with the CFO of the UH Foundation yesterday. The Foundation does not provide automatic payroll deduction activites from non-UHF employees. There is no plan to provide this service in the future as the Foundation is not set up for this function.

    As outlined before there are several work arounds.
    1. Auto deduction from an personal existing account into a personal savings account specifically set up to support UH Athletics on your own. Set it up so every quarter the bank sends a check to the University of Hawaii Foundation “UH Foundation (name of sports program or endowment)”
    2. See if your company has a matching donation program, to a 501 (c) (3), and do a payroll deduction where your company sends a check a month to UH Foundation (above).
    3. Contact a bank or credit union (I recommend contacting Scott Kaulukukui of Hawaii USA Federal Credit Union or Corbett Kamoa Kalama/Mitch Kai’alii of First Hawaiian) to explore how this may be done across the state.

  38. Stephen Tsai April 2, 2010 9:43 am

    This is my 10th season covering men’s volleyball, and I really find it to be a fascinating sport. I didn’t feel that way in the beginning. But Coach Wilton and then Charlie have made it easy for the media.
    The practices are always open, and the players are accessible right after matches. Also, the coaches are really good about explaining their strategies. I can understand why football and basketball coaches can get the war-room mentality. But volleyball is a close-community sport, and these guys, while competitive, also have a lot of history with opponents.

  39. Pride. April 2, 2010 9:44 am

    Thanks Don.

  40. papajoe2 April 2, 2010 9:47 am

    I hope the wahine don’t fall into that thin air trap. sometimes when UH goes to thin air country in all sports, they either lose it psychologically or press themselves and try go go for the fences and lose the focus on what needs to be done.

  41. Frieday April 2, 2010 9:48 am

    I hope SB management is not reading the blog. I’m sure the $800-$1,000 to cover a one day event like Pro Day could be better spent covering other things. But maybe that’s why Gannett is selling – bad decisions.

    Then again if SB management is not reading the blog, they’ll cancel it for sure.

  42. Bulla April 2, 2010 9:55 am

    #4 vakeloa,

    welcome aboard, boyz looking good at practice, little rain this morning to cool them off. tomorrow is pads, time to HIT SOMEBODY. vaughn is taking the leadership role for the DL, a few of them have to hit the cardio, too much huffing and puffing going on for some…..

    don’t believe everything you hear about me, look to the source, j/k jerry, haha. nah, life’s too short bro, what’s the irony here…….our wive’s names (lynette), our son’s # (#95), and we’re both stunning and handsome….

    need i say more? haha, happy good friday, see you real soon! and during the season, we’d be honored if you came to our Tsaiko-gate…….in fact, we’re practicing on april 17th, to make sure we haven’t lost our touch in tailgating 🙂

    be blessed my brother, good luck with the concrete……a formidable experience to say the least…….

  43. Pomai April 2, 2010 10:08 am

    #41 Frieday

    Lets see SB losing big time money, HA making money? The question should be why would the owner of SB bring over the same management who has lost money over the last few years to run something that has been making money? Seems to me that I would want the people who where making money to continue doing whatever it is that is making the money, hence a ticket to Pro day.

  44. SteveM April 2, 2010 10:13 am

    Good morning everyone!

    ST — good description of the rationale for Pro Day. I liked your last paragraph:

    The thing I liked most is that UH made the most to promote its players. Deep down, every recruit wants a shot at the big time, which is why many choose the Warriors’ offense or attacking defense. The UH coaches are doing their part to help, even if many are chasing impossible dreams. The players might not end up with NFL jobs, but they won’t have regrets, either.

  45. mctruck April 2, 2010 10:21 am


  46. Kazz April 2, 2010 10:37 am


    Not sure what the Wahine’s record at Las Cruces is, but the thin air is always a factor for our teams. More so in Reno though, as the Nevada softball squad is quite formidable in general. The overall series record against NMSU is pretty good and our Wahine have faced FAR better competition in the preseason on the road in Vegas and in Cali than what NMSU had.

    If Coach Coolen preaches to “sweat the small stuff” then preparation for such conditions would be expected.

  47. Daikon Fut April 2, 2010 10:48 am

    Is it just me or did Nate Ilaoa’s numbers look pretty good?

  48. Kimchee Fut April 2, 2010 10:50 am

    What’s the best place to watch practice? Is picture taking allowed?

  49. Kazz April 2, 2010 11:03 am

    There is only one side you can watch practice at. If at the grass fields, then on the mauka sideline on the grass hill and if at Ching Field, it’s on the bleachers.

    Last I recall, no photography allowed except for media and people with credentials. Again, last I recall and I don’t take photos so I don’t pay attention to details like that.

  50. Garret April 2, 2010 11:03 am

    With USC being UH’s first opponent of the season, it might interest people to know who was their #1 center in practice yesterday…

    “You just have to be prepared so you’re ready whenever it happens,” says the redshirt sophomore walk-on who started spring practice as USC’s backup center after the No. 2 man there, Michael Reardon, cracked a bone in his neck in an ATV rollover last weekend.

    Then starter Kristofer O’Dowd had his left knee rolled up on and had to leave practice Thursday with ice on his mild knee sprain. He’s day-to-day and could return Saturday for the first day of full pads work. Or maybe not.

    “AT USC, you’d better be ready to play center if you’re an offensive lineman,” says Markowitz, who can tick off the names of eight different Trojans the past two seasons who have played center — or could if called upon.

  51. Garret April 2, 2010 11:03 am

    Abe’s current backup has very little experience…

    Right now, backing him up could be redshirt freshman John Martinez, just 18, who Trojans offensive line coach James Cregg was hoping could concentrate on guard this year after playing three positions last season.

  52. d1島 April 2, 2010 11:12 am

    Boy, I can’t imagine what the Beast wouldn’t do to get on the field if *that* center plays for USC!

  53. Kekoa April 2, 2010 11:14 am


    I’m sure the $800-$1,000 to cover a one day event like Pro Day could be better spent covering other things. But maybe that’s why Gannett is selling – bad decisions.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you read all of the detailed information that ST provided for this event, you would appreciate the effort he put forth.

    We as fans of these young men care about their chances to go to the big show. It’s what some of them have dreamed of all their lives. This is the story behind the headlines. We are aware of his ties to the team, and his abiity to bring out the story the players share with him.

    For some, it’ll be their last hurrah. For the rare few, it’ll be like hitting the NFL Jackpot. For the friends and family, the photos and personal stories are priceless. We appreciate ST’s effort in bring home the story.

  54. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc April 2, 2010 11:15 am


    April 2nd, 2010 at 7:32 am
    Mini cc for Saturday after practice, so far curveball, slugger and myself will be headed to Big City Diner after practice, so anyone who wants to join us is more than welcome.

    What time is Saturday’s practice? Which Big City Diner – the one in Kaimuki or the one in Ward Center?

  55. papajoe2 April 2, 2010 11:16 am

    Local boy Micah Kia at UCLA is anxious and ready to go after blowing out his knee last year. At last count, 6’6”, 330 lbs. Imua Hawaiian!!

  56. Old Diver April 2, 2010 11:23 am

    Regarding #41

    Why do I buy the Advertiser? Well let’s put it this way. Most days I read the front page first and Sports ( specifically UH sports ) last because I want a treat at the end. Sometimes I like my desert first and never get to the main course. If the Advertiser did not cover UH sports ( specifically ST’s articles and blog ) then it would be like just eating bread for dinner.

  57. Bulla April 2, 2010 11:25 am

    #52 d1

    no worries, 2012 in the coliseum is good enough, haha, those that know….will enjoy the show……what better place, than in the coliseum….the beast forgives…but NEVER forgets……….

    Happy Good Friday to one all, be blessed not stressed.

  58. LizKauai m/ April 2, 2010 11:36 am

    Have a very GOOD FRIDAY and HAPPY EASTER, all!

    Today’s post is one of the best ever, I think.

    And Don Weir… keeps on tickin! Mahalo for the 411!


  59. jm2375 April 2, 2010 12:09 pm

    Congrats to the UH Academic All-WAC honorees for the winter season.

  60. Pomai April 2, 2010 12:11 pm

    #54 Wassup
    Practice starts at 7 pau around 9 I think, will be headed to the BCD on Waialae Avenue after.

  61. labratatouie April 2, 2010 12:14 pm

    Mack on espn radio now.

  62. Committed Road Warrior April 2, 2010 12:21 pm


    Check your e-mail.

  63. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc April 2, 2010 12:23 pm

    After going three levels into the UH Athletics Department website, I found the following information about the practices.

    Early morning practices are not possible for me because of transportation issues so I’m looking forward to April 17 and 24.

    Note that April 17 is the same day as the Spring Practice T-Gate as well as a 4 pm softball double-header with LaTech starting at 4 pn. All three are free so no excuses not to attend after PO Spring Practice.

    As for April 24, more about that date later on.

    Saturday, April 3 – 7 a.m.
    Monday, April 5 – 7 a.m.
    Wednesday, April 7 – 7 a.m.
    Saturday, April 10 (Kaua‘i) – 11 a.m.
    Monday, April 12 – 7 a.m.
    Wednesday, April 14 – 7 a.m.
    Saturday, April 17 – 3 p.m.
    Monday, April 19 – 7 a.m.
    Wednesday, April 21 – 7 a.m.
    Saturday, April 24 – 3 p.m.
    Monday, April 26 – 7 a.m.
    Thursday, April 29 – 7 a.m.
    Friday, April 30 – 7 p.m.

    Again, which Big City Diner for tomorrow’s mini-CC and about what time for those not able to attend the practice?

  64. Jason April 2, 2010 12:23 pm

    Hey folks,

    If you haven’t seen already, Esme’s leading the Hawaiʻi Moms Like Me group that is fundraising for the March of Dimes’ March for Babies.

    If you didn’t know, I was born ten weeks premature, so this is a cause that is big for me. Please consider donating to Esme or one of the other moms. Thanks!

  65. Don Weir April 2, 2010 2:01 pm

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc & Fellow Kailua Fans,
    I’ve landed on my feet and will be at UH on upper campus every day.

    You let me know when there is a transport issue and I will pick you up (and provide some fresh coffee) for the ride over the Pali to campus. Even better, I can go in to Lower Campus the back way and drop you off right in front of either field. This way we can listen to the Bobby Curran show, discuss the issues in the truck, and then call in and say hello to Bobby with point and counterpoint ready.

    Same e-mail as always, same cell as always.

  66. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 2:18 pm

    Spring Practice #2 Report

    Starters on Offense

    RT———-La Count
    RG———A. Thomas

    Starters on Defense

    ROLB—-A. Brown
    LDB——L. Davis
    S #1—–Smith
    S #2—–Silva

    Players to watch during spring training—David Graves and Cayman Shutter looked sharp throwing the ball during 7 on 7s today.

  67. Kekoa April 2, 2010 2:26 pm

    Thanks for the report BleedGreen808. Were you sitting with the usual Tsaiko Practice observers like myki & sj?

  68. al April 2, 2010 2:46 pm

    bleeds black…no qb, rb?

  69. d1島 April 2, 2010 2:49 pm


    Das how good the OLine going be! 😉

  70. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 2:50 pm


    I was sitting with a friend who left half way through and was left sitting by myself towards the end (such a loner…haha). Actually, I wouldn’t know who they are if they talked to me as I have never met any of the tsaikos at all…the only tsaiko that I know by face is the Grandmaster of them all, which by the way, I have never met myself. Only have seen him.

    Addition to #66…I had forgotten to include who the QB (Moniz) and RB (Green) is.

  71. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 3:02 pm

    Ok…more corrections. Meatoga was the LDT and not Correa and Satele isnt a DT rather his a LDE

    Just a bad reporter…should leave the reporting to ST.

  72. Mauimon April 2, 2010 3:02 pm

    Kevin O’Brien named new head coach for Kamehameha-Maui Football.

  73. al April 2, 2010 3:02 pm

    d1…we seem to have the skill personnel in place. the oline will dictate how many yards and points we will put up. the starting five with or without pepa has the potential to do well. i hope we can develop some real depth on the oline.

  74. al April 2, 2010 3:03 pm

    bleeds black…mahalo for the effort.

  75. jm2375 April 2, 2010 3:05 pm

    BleedsGreen – check out SteveM’s Tsai-ko website for pictures of Tsai-kos.

    Counting down the hours till first serve tonight….

  76. protector April 2, 2010 3:07 pm

    Don Weir,

    You are the epitome of class and graciousness!

  77. theDman April 2, 2010 3:10 pm

    Wow, Blaze did not lift well. Only 15 reps? Is that true?

    That is not going to go over well with the scouts.

  78. tom April 2, 2010 3:12 pm

    Mauimon……Good call on the utah state commit….you definitely got the inside scoop

  79. Pride. April 2, 2010 3:12 pm

    Draft Insider Positional Rankings(3-14-10):

    Five Players from the University of Hawaii:

    John Estes #6 Centers
    Aaron Kia #30 Tackles
    Laupepa Letuli #31 Guards
    Brashton Satele #33 Inside Backers
    John Fonoti #47 Defensive Ends

    Three Players from Mainland Colleges that played H.S. in Hawaii:

    Shawn Lauvao #3 Guards
    Tyson Alualu #6 Defensive Tackles
    Daniel Te’o-Nesheim #20 Defensive End

    Need to remember these ratings were posted a month ago before UH’s pro-day. Both Letuli and Satele posted some good numbers at the pro-day this week. Should they come back for a sixth year, if the NCAA grants them one? or should they go now, with pretty decent numbers for the scouts to work with?

  80. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 3:17 pm


    What is SteveM’s website?

  81. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 3:18 pm

    Sorry…What is the web address of SteveM’s website?

  82. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 3:19 pm

    Thanks for the reports, Bleedgreen!

    What a big O-line!

  83. protector April 2, 2010 3:20 pm


    Very much appreciate your report. Keep ’em coming!
    One small kine correction…Jake’s last name is Heun (not Huen);

    Look forward to meeting you at some future Tsaiko function.

  84. Da Punchbowl Kid April 2, 2010 3:21 pm


    LMAO @ #69! 😆

  85. Ralph April 2, 2010 3:32 pm

    La Tech beat San Jose State 2-0, Fresno State leading Boise State after 3 5-0, sb scores. UDUB Lawrie vs UCLA Kerr, another battle of pac 10 sb.

  86. jm2375 April 2, 2010 3:33 pm

    BleedsGreen – click on SteveM’s name on one of his posts.

  87. protector April 2, 2010 3:38 pm

    Pride on # 79,

    The sad part of the rankings are the ‘UH’ factor or perhaps the Rodney Dangerfield syndrome where they “can’t get no respect”. Imagine if our guys had played for PAC-10 teams or the Big-12 perhaps…I’m sure that they would’ve ranked in the top 20 (maybe with one exception) just as others with Hawaii high school ties (that went away) were ranked.

  88. postmanke April 2, 2010 3:42 pm

    I dont wanna count the chickens before they hatch but mbb recruit Godwin Okonji from Findlay Prep… – The Ron Artest type of player we need. On the fence but i think Gib has got him leaning.

    Gib has gotta feel good about his chances of getting this kid. Findlay Prep plays a national televised game on EPSN tomorrow morning.

  89. protector April 2, 2010 3:49 pm

    DPK, al, d1 & others,

    The O-line should be good if they can only avoid injuries. If they get ‘Pepa back, all the better, but they’d still do okay if it doesn’t happen. Opponents know all about UH’s passing game… what I hope is it’ll be awhile before they find out about Hawaii’s potential power-running attack. I think having that potential fits into Coach Rolo & Coach Mack’s attacking philosophy and Coach Shaw is greasing the wheels.

  90. postmanke April 2, 2010 3:57 pm

    I am a huge coach Shaw fan – his unit will be ready!

  91. d1島 April 2, 2010 3:58 pm

    The Ron Artest type of player we need

    Good ting I sit in the Upper Level! 🙄
    (…and prefer to drink rather than toss my beer)

  92. al April 2, 2010 3:59 pm

    #87,,,i have to disagree with that statement. hawaii has sent more than its share of lineman to the nfl.

    lauvao, alualu, teo-nesheim were all in the top three in there hawaii recruits class because they were talented and had the proper size. they would have been highly rated even if they stayed home.

  93. postmanke April 2, 2010 4:01 pm

    lol not THAT type.. this kid is grounded. smart kid, wont steal, perfect recruit.

  94. Kimchee Fut April 2, 2010 4:06 pm

    I really hope Brashton gets his 6th year approved.

    I don’t have confidence in Heun and Lolotai. Paredes wasn’t that great either.

    UH really missing the 2 linebackers that were academic casualties from last years’ class, T.J. Alofipo and Chad Lopati.

    I hope those 3 mentioned above can show some improvement this season.

  95. J-Dog April 2, 2010 4:07 pm

    I like Aaron Brown, and curious to see how George Daily-Lyles does.

  96. Bulla April 2, 2010 4:11 pm

    Daily-Lyles looks like the package, hope he can deliver. Brown is yet to be seen, but has a lot of promise. LB’s…..whew, gonna need some development there in the summer….they’ll be ready, but USC is the first test.


  97. PowderPuff April 2, 2010 4:17 pm

    Happy, Aloha, Good and First Friday! Hope to see the Stanley packed tonight and tomorrow. If you’re watching from home, listen for some familiar voices in the background.

    Thanks for your reporting from Pro Day, ST. Happy Easter everyone!

  98. Pomai April 2, 2010 4:29 pm

    Kimchee Fut this will be only the second year that Jake Heun will be playing MLB, but I think he will work out fine.

  99. wafan April 2, 2010 4:50 pm

    A great Aloha and Good Friday evening/afternoon!!!

  100. wafan April 2, 2010 4:51 pm


    It has arrived.

    Spring Break.


  101. wafan April 2, 2010 4:51 pm

    2nd Century!!!

  102. protector April 2, 2010 4:56 pm

    al on # 92,

    I totally agree they would’ve been rated highly had they stayed home. My point is that IF they had stayed home, their present rankings would (in all probablility) be lower than they are now and that had Estes gone to the PAC-10, there’s absolutely no way he would only be the # 6-rated center.

    Pomai on # 98,

    Agree that Heun will work out fine but I still hope Brashton returns. It would solidify & deepen the D. I also would like to see the both of them on the field at the same time (at times)!

  103. Slugger April 2, 2010 4:58 pm


    Look for the couple sitting under the crooked tree closer to the QB/RB practice to find sj-macro & myki.

    If you see a big, bolohead guy watching the defense, that be Bulla, and the ever-shrinking Lyn & Pam with him.

  104. OldDiver April 2, 2010 5:17 pm

    Regarding # 87

    What gets you to the next level is playing time. Sitting on pine wood just makes your butt sore. Many players who go away find they will have to sit for four years. I remember talking to a guy whose daughter was an all-state soccer player who went to the mainland. She was complaining that girls who went to UH were playing and getting more recognition than her. To his dismay I pointed out that if his daughter didn’t play until she was a senior the UH players who played four years will pass her by. He sadly agreed.

  105. protector April 2, 2010 5:18 pm


    With Trevor Wiseman and &Jordan Coleman coming in to join Hiram, Zane, Milovic(?) & Bill Amis (and also if they keep Lay), I anticipate that Coach Gib can keep his promise of an exciting, fast-break / high scoring offense. Wiseman & Coleman seem gifted with all-round skills & abilities; very versatile. The team shouldn’t struggle as much to help Hiram getting the ball down the court. It should also mean that full-court presses and traps should be less effective, too. I would think with the recruits being quick-handed ball-hawks that like to create turnovers that the D should improve also.

    Go Coach Gib! Get ‘dem recruits!

  106. al April 2, 2010 5:21 pm

    estes was not a highly sought hs center.

  107. al April 2, 2010 5:23 pm

    don’t forget that zane johnson should make an impact.

    also, there’s a rumor someone won’t be back. it has been reported that xiang will grad this may and not return. but, it sounded like there was another…..hmmm.

  108. protector April 2, 2010 5:27 pm


    Going with your thought, I wonder how long it’ll be before Ioane sets foot on the blue turf at Boise and when some of the prized & coveted 2010 recruits for U-Dub will get significant PT there? I truly hope it’s not too soon, especially for Ioane because it would gall me if he’s a thorn in UH’s side for the next 4 years.
    Rats! Really wanted him to come here; would’ve fit in nicely & could’ve been an impact player.

  109. Curt April 2, 2010 5:27 pm

    For MBB, it looks like we have enough Bigs. I hope Gib will be able to secure a quality point guard to challenge Hiram.

  110. Ralph April 2, 2010 5:33 pm

    Stanford beats Cal again, 5-1. Cal took 2 or 3 from UH, Stanford and UH split 1-1.

  111. protector April 2, 2010 5:39 pm


    I sure hope Hiram doesn’t leave. Could it be Milovic? I can’t see it ever being him or Zane, because they’ve already sat-out a year. Xiang is gone, so who is left? Lay? It may be harsh to say, but I don’t think too many would mind if Williams left. Other than them, weren’t the rest walk-ons?

    And re: Zane J, I totally agree he can be an impact player. I can see Hiram, Zane & Bill along with Trevor & Jordan – that starting five can do some damage. I would hope our turnovers would decrease and that there should be an increase in steals & caused-turnovers. Question would be how well they can rebound as a team. My guess is they would do fine because they’re smart players & for sure Bill can rebound. Already salivating and it’s so far away!

  112. al April 2, 2010 5:43 pm

    i am just perplexed that the team captain has not made a statement regarding the new coaching regime.

    it will be interesting as to who will not be asked back to the land of rainbows and warriors. a new coach can release anyone he wants to who was on scholie.

    some rumored thoughts were that the two jc guys were goners even before nash was let go.

  113. ai-eee-soos April 2, 2010 5:51 pm

    re #108

    From what I gleaned during the signing period,

    Ione accepted a grayshirt offer & will enroll in spring 2011

    at donkey u.

    thass all i know.

  114. whitey April 2, 2010 5:54 pm

    WOW!!! Three men from Maui will be in the major league this year, Shane V, Kurt S, and now Kanekoa Texeira. They are carrying on the baseball tradition from the Valley Isle which dates back to Wally Y, Andy Miyamoto, John Sardinha, Bobby Martin. UH has 2 players from the past who are very active with youth baseball, Jon Viela and Kahai Shishido, so if UH was truly interested in getting baseball players, those 2 would be a good start on getting future players.

  115. ai-eee-soos April 2, 2010 5:59 pm

    re #114. Jon Viela and Kahai Shishido

    chee, I wonder if Trap knows about them, or even cares.

    would help if Trap would connect with the BaseBows of yore.

  116. whitey April 2, 2010 6:03 pm

    ai-eee-soos, same thought about Trap and his asst.

  117. duffer April 2, 2010 6:30 pm

    Spelled the kid’s name wrong again………….not bad scores from the back tees and 30 mph winds at Kahili

    Also shot a 34 at Makena the day before

  118. Bulla April 2, 2010 6:53 pm

    103 slugger

    mahalo for the props, and yes lyn and pam are shrinking……they are still in ‘the biggest loser’ contest at work 🙂 i live and die by the D, so i try and ‘absorb’ all i can. lot’s of fans on the O side of the ball, led by the steady eddie, papa bill stutzmann on that side of the hill. bill cracked me up, ‘offense are really nice people, the defense people, they’re pretty wild..’ what is he talking about? haha

    full pads tomorrow, one on ones, eleven on elevens……..D is on the field at 0630….love it………….time for some crackahs for the jackahs…………..

  119. Hoohiki April 2, 2010 7:37 pm

    Whitey, don’t forget UH alum and former basebow, Jamie Aloy. I think he’s the HC for the LL Dodgers. John Viela is now the HC for the Baldwin Bears so his time with the LL is somewhat limited.

    How are you? Still hanging out at Tiffany’s?

  120. postmanke April 2, 2010 7:40 pm

    Hold on to your golfing helmets. What, Michelle Wie 306 yards driving average off of the ladies tees? That’s from the ladies tees? I like what they are cooking up in the Wie camp. Couldn’t happen at a better time. LPGA commissioner, wipe that smile off your face!

  121. d1島 April 2, 2010 7:43 pm

    WooHoo! Slaats strikes out the side in the 5th!


  122. Hoohiki April 2, 2010 7:47 pm

    My son has gone to the baseball clinics run by Trapasso and his players. Very few outer island kids attend. I guess it’s difficult financially for most families. Alot of the kids came from private schools. Only 3 from Maui went; 1 high schooler from Kamehameha Maui, 1 middle schooler, and my son from elementary (KMS, too). It’s a great way for Coach to get to know the kids and follow them as they develop. The kid from KMS drew oohs and ahs in the batting cage.

  123. duffer April 2, 2010 8:05 pm

    Hey Hoohiki

    You son goes to Kamehameha Maui too? What grade?

  124. d1島 April 2, 2010 8:06 pm

    BaseBows finally break through for 2 runs in the 5th but leave the bases loaded.

  125. wafan April 2, 2010 8:18 pm


  126. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 8:29 pm

    Thanks Tsaikos!

    Saw the Tsaiko pictures on SteveM’s website…you tsaikos do surely know how to have fun and it was nice to put a face with the names.

    Will certainly be looking out for the tsaikos at practice or at games as I have seen photos of some of you guys.

  127. d1島 April 2, 2010 8:37 pm


    Stephen is at The Stanley!?!?

    Look forward to seeing you, too, BleedGreen808.

  128. Frieday April 2, 2010 8:42 pm

    #43 – the Advertiser is not making money. That’s why ST and his colleagues took the pay cut a year or two ago. Also, if the Advertiser was making money, why would Gannett sell it. They haven’t made a principle payment on the $82M press.

    When advertising and circulation sales are down, you need to find other means to do an effective job of reporting. Jeff Portnoy is going to the Final Four and writing a column for the paper. The Advertiser is not paying him the same wages they would pay their own writer.

  129. d1島 April 2, 2010 8:45 pm

    No A/C in the Stanley? Good night to be watching BaseBows….

  130. Guys in the office April 2, 2010 8:47 pm

    #128 — Advertiser is not profitable? You must know something that we don’t.

  131. d1島 April 2, 2010 8:53 pm

    Linsky in for Slaats to start the 8th.
    Great night for Slaats
    10 K’s, 1 BoB, 0 R


  132. d1島 April 2, 2010 8:55 pm

    See erryboddy at practice!

  133. LizKauai (iPhone) April 2, 2010 9:02 pm

    Go Volleybows!!!
    Hoo da planny big noise when UCSD serves!

  134. whitey April 2, 2010 9:03 pm

    Hoohiki, absolutely right about Jamie A. His dad worked with my brother at Aloha and it was a very sad time when he passed away. Duffer knows his family too.

  135. whitey April 2, 2010 9:04 pm

    hoohiki, about twice a month at Tiffany’s, but mostly at the darkside merchants. hahahahaaaaaa

  136. Kekoa April 2, 2010 9:09 pm

    BleedGreen ~ Images may appear larger than real life on your monitor. (Not to be mistaken for photos that may be displayed at the Post Office)

  137. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 9:31 pm


    lol…the photos on the wall or on the stamp? haha

  138. LizKauai (iPhone) April 2, 2010 9:40 pm

    BleedGreen808- and pls ignore the milk carton pix too. Look forward to meeting you at a TsaikoGate!

  139. Hoohiki April 2, 2010 9:42 pm

    Hi duffer! 2nd.

  140. Kekoa April 2, 2010 9:58 pm


    BleedGreen ~ Dats why Facebook put ’em on da ‘wall!’ LizKauai get plenny more incriminating evidence of da Tsaiko’s at play.

    Congrats to the MVB team for their comeback sweep of sets 2-3-4 for the victory. I’ll be in da hale for Senior nite!

  141. BleedGreen808 April 2, 2010 10:24 pm

    I will certainly ignore the photos including those on the HPD DUI website. LMAO!


    No offense to all but out of all the tsaikos, you are indeed the one that I want to meet. Based on your posts, you seem to be gracious and an angel in your own right.

  142. protector April 2, 2010 10:51 pm

    Congratulations to the BaseBows & the VolleyBows tonight! That 4th game was too close for comfort , though.

  143. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc April 2, 2010 11:04 pm

    Great baseball game – because the Basebows won – but the failure to bring the runners around to home plate made it very frustrating to watch.

    Congratulations to Coach Charlie and the men’s volleyball team for their win tonight. Am watching the replay as I write.

    Tomorrow night we’ll be at the volleyball match live for Senior Night while a good friend & a Capitol colleague and his 12-year-old son will be using our baseball tickets.

    No one answered my earlier question: Which Big City Diner is the site of the Saturday post-practice CC – the one in Kaimuki or the one in Ward Center? There night be some Tsai-kos who’d like to join in even if they cannot make the 7 am practice.

    I’m going to stay in Kailua for the Final Four games which start at 8 am. DrDoc has to be at work at 8 am so I’ll ask him to drop me off at the Kailua BCD around 7:30 to watch the Butler/WV face-off.

    Hope to see some of you folks tomorrow night – I didn’t see any Tsai-kos this evening at The Les.

  144. Ralph April 2, 2010 11:33 pm

    Na Wahine on their first WAC sb road trip. Nine games in 8 days in three states. Lucky they’re young, good time to bond and let the time pass by quickly. Starts with a DH against New Mexico State at Las Cruces at 5 pm. Too bad, no live stats, no reporters on the road.

  145. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc April 2, 2010 11:47 pm

    Just got corrected by SigOth – the Final Four doesn’t start until 12 noon so I guess I’ll wend my way into town on my own. I wonder where I got the idea that the first game was at 8 am.

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  147. curveball April 3, 2010 12:12 pm

    Beautiful morning at Ching field to watch the Warriors. Its a bit to early to say much about individual players, but there is great emotion on the field. I would say the defense is ahead of the offense at this point which is the same as last year. The defense is definitely more together as a group and emotionally fired up. The practice is much more organized with little wasted time. On the 11 on 11″s I would say the QB’s looked about equal. No one really stood out at QB at this point. Defense pretty much dominated the 11’s. I did notice that the Beast was in the offensive backfield on every play he was in. He is not going to have to many offensive linemen as friends.

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  149. LizKauai (iPhone) April 4, 2010 11:03 pm

    Nitey nite and tsweet Warriror Dreams!!

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