Pass contest begins

The competition for the next UH starting quarterback begins today with team and position meetings this morning, and a light practice this afternoon.

Shane Austin, a fifth-year senior who is 1-0 as a starter (over San Jose State in 2009), and David Graves, a third-year sophomore, are the competitors.

* * * * *

Quarterback Bryant Moniz was upbeat entering this morning’s surgery for a fractured fibula in his right ankle. Moniz, who is taking a hula class, mused: “It’s going to be hard to get ready for Merrie Monarch now.”

The recover period is between four and six weeks.

* * * * *

Nevada’s Cody Fajardo was named the WAC’s Offensive Player of the Week.

Two years ago, he was on the Warriors’ evaluation list, but was not recruited.

* * * * *

As reported this morning, there is growing concern about the Warriors’ lagging attendance. One teeny omission: UH is now getting moolah from student fees. It doesn’t translate to more bottoms in the seats, but it does helps the bottom line


  1. wafan November 14, 2011 7:28 am


  2. wafan November 14, 2011 7:29 am

    Back to work.


  3. Wes'side Warrior November 14, 2011 7:30 am

    Backups gotta step up their game.

    Heal up, all you wounded Warriors!

  4. mauifarmdog November 14, 2011 7:30 am

    Speedy recovery for Moniz.

  5. tommui November 14, 2011 7:33 am


    Get well MO!

  6. Garret November 14, 2011 7:33 am

    I hope that Bryant Moniz has a speedy and full recovery.

  7. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 7:35 am

    fire mack.

  8. Wes'side Warrior November 14, 2011 7:35 am

    Kudos to Kevin, Pomai, and Duffer, for doing what you do for UH Athletics in general, and Wahine Softball in particular!!!

  9. Garret November 14, 2011 7:35 am

    The student fees were supposed to plug the existing deficit that UHAD had. If attendance declines, either budget cuts or increasing the student fees will be required to cover for it.

    It should also be noted that this decreased attendance is counting all the students that get into the game for free…that means that paid attendance is down more than what is indicated in the article today.

  10. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:35 am

    On the one hand, most thought UH would be 8-2 at this point.

    On the other hand, Fresno State and Tulane are key opponents for the Warriors.

    When the schedule was set, the WAC had hoped the Fresno State-UH game would be for the league title.

    And that’s why they play the games, as they say.

  11. Garret November 14, 2011 7:35 am

    I don’t like the idea of Austin and Graves getting equal reps in practice this week and the coaches putting off a decision on a starter until game day. The coaches should make a decision (you know, a DECISION) early in the week about who they believe gives UH the best chance to win, and arrange for that QB to get maximum reps with the starting receivers.

    That will maximize the likelihood of the chosen starter being physically ready and mentally prepared for the game. Moreover the team will benefit from having a specific individual to rally around.

    Putting off a decision means the preparation work will be less focused and the team will spend the week grappling with uncertainty. This is fundamental leadership stuff and it’s mystifying to me that the coaches don’t grasp it.


    I agree what you say, it makes perfect sense. Whatever QB is chosen to start will need as much reps as possible to get ready for Fresno. Neither QB has had close to the reps that Moniz had, so every practice rep is crucial.

    However, I think that the criticism may be unwarranted. The UH coaches say that Austin and Graves will be “splitting” reps, but they have not emphasized that they will be getting “equal” reps. Who says that the coaches have not actually decided on which QB will start and will be giving that QB the majority of the reps? Austin and Graves are *very* different types of QBs, so forcing Fresno State to prepare for both of them is good for UH and will hurt Fresno State’s defensive preparation under their new DC.

    So, it is quite possible that the QB “competition” will be over by Tuesday and the team will have time to rally behind the QB chosen to lead them against Fresno State. We should not assume that the coaches cannot make a decision, that would be like not being able to decide on a play and then being called for a penalty or burning a timeout…

  12. Garret November 14, 2011 7:37 am

    I indicated last week that I thought that UH would lose to Nevada and then would beat Fresno State and Tulane. I hope the 2nd and 3rd parts of that prediction are true…that would clinch the winning season and Hawaii Bowl spot and would make for a good crowd at the BYU game.

  13. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:40 am

    You have to include part of the student fees toward ticket revenue or else UH then took an automatic line-item cut because it would have gone from the budget including a minimal ticket income from students ($3 or $5 per ticket) to zero.

  14. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:42 am

    UH won’t be putting off a decision.

    It will be putting off an announcement.

  15. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 7:43 am

    did we burn KVA’s redshirt? or is game participation wrong and it was Lolotai in the game?

  16. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:45 am

    Unless there is a significant separation between the quarteracks, there are a few lines of thought:

    • Because of his experience, Austin could start and, if he struggles, Graves would be available for relief.

    ª Because of Austin’s experiencing coming off the bench, he could retain the closer’s role.

  17. Garret November 14, 2011 7:48 am

    It is interesting that the gamblers seem to be betting heavily on UH this week. The line started with UH being a 4 point favorite over Fresno State, and the line now has UH as a 5.5 point favorite.

    Last week the line actually opened as Nevada being a 13 point favorite, then moved to 15 after the gamblers bet heavily on Nevada early in the week. That means that the gamblers that bet heavily on Nevada early in the week actually covered the spread and won. Now the early gamblers evaluated both teams and are picking UH over Fresno State…I hope they are correct.

  18. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 7:49 am

    i wonder if anyone was able to get in at reno -13 and hawaii +16. wow, big money!

  19. Garret November 14, 2011 7:50 am

    UH won’t be putting off a decision.

    It will be putting off an announcement.


    That was what I was thinking would happen. That is exactly what the UH coaches should be doing, make Fresno State prepare for both QBs.

  20. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:53 am

    Van Ackeren has not played this year.

    His best opportunity to play would have been against Washington. But he wasn’t on the travel roster for the game.

  21. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 7:54 am

    good. was Lolotai? i wonder why hawaiiathletics has him on game participation.

  22. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 7:54 am

    It shoud be interesting to see what happens to FSU after its defensive coordinator “resigned.”

  23. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 7:55 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    That yellow thing showed up in the sky again this morning.

    Get better soon, Mo.

    May the best QB win. This week, nextweek , and for the rest of the season.


  24. tommui November 14, 2011 7:57 am

    GARRET #11

    We should not assume that the coaches cannot make a decision, that would be like not being able to decide on a play and then being called for a penalty or burning a timeout…

    Your ellipsis is duly noted!

  25. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 8:01 am

    I’m not so sure the sun came up over the Meadowlands.

  26. longdistance808 November 14, 2011 8:14 am

    The sun rose over Seattle and Denver. Yeah! Ok, maybe not Seattle. Probably raining.

  27. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 8:17 am

    Wonder what the weather report from New England is…

  28. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 8:18 am

    You’re killin’ me your Honor, just killin’ me. 😆

  29. HawaiiMongoose November 14, 2011 8:24 am

    Garret, re #11, LOL.

    ST and Garret, re #19, I agree. If the plan is to make a decision but not announce it so that Fresno State’s new defensive coordinator has more to think about, great.

  30. Kevin November 14, 2011 8:31 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 14th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    UH won’t be putting off a decision.

    It will be putting off an announcement.



    Oh wait, you referring to the QB situation or the head coaching thing?

  31. RedZone November 14, 2011 8:32 am

    I remember seeing a number 52 blocking on special teams. I thought that it may have been Lolotai because of his size.

  32. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:33 am

    If this weekend’s game against Fresno can’t bring fans to the stadium we should just forget about being a Division 1 school. I was impressed by the spirit & support of the Nevada fans for their team. Our team needs our support NOW, so I hope we fill the seats this weekend…

  33. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:33 am

    If this weekend’s game against Fresno can’t bring fans to the stadium we should just forget about being a Division 1 school. I was impressed by the spirit & support of the Nevada fans for their team. Our team needs our support NOW, so I hope we fill the seats this weekend…

  34. Slugger November 14, 2011 8:34 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Prayers for a successful surgery for Mo today. That Merrie Monarch comment sounds like Mo. Two words: hula noho.

    Warriors, go out and win the next three regular games!


  35. Slugger November 14, 2011 8:35 am


    Mahalo for getting the treats to friend Ken!

  36. Kevin November 14, 2011 8:36 am

    Westside Warrior,

    Hope the stars align and you can come out to softball senior night at least in the spring!

  37. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 8:36 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 14th, 2011 at 7:42 am

    “UH won’t be putting off a decision.

    It will be putting off an announcement.”

    Very interesting.

  38. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:37 am

    About to leave Reno…

    Dunno if anyone reported this but a Reno TV sportscaster was runover & killed in the traffic mess after our game…It was truly a mess & makes our Aloha stadium concerns seem minor. It was a “hit & run” accident, but they caught the guy, who was probably drunk.

  39. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:38 am


    UH 42 – Fresnecks 37

  40. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 8:40 am


    UNR’s fan base isn’t the best example of “loyal and spirited”…It’s probably one of the worst.

    One needs to go as far back as last years “magical season” in Reno to see what I mean.

  41. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:40 am

    Prayers for Moniz…I hope he someday gets the recognition he truly deserves. Austin & Graves have to step it up!

  42. kalani November 14, 2011 8:41 am

    IMO Shutter’s the best of the three and should be put in the mix.

  43. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 8:42 am


    UH 41 Pups 21


  44. Slugger November 14, 2011 8:43 am


    La iluna in Miami…


  45. Kevin November 14, 2011 8:46 am


    I think ST was referring to the QB starting situation and not the other BIG PRESSING ISSUE. 🙁

  46. Bowwar November 14, 2011 8:46 am


    Dunno…I walked the town & attended the game and found many friendly and loyal supporters. UH could learn a bit of marketing & merchandising from these folks as you could find Wolfpack items (quality stuff) in alot of the stores & malls. The stadium was packed & we were tired of hearing the Wolfpack fans saying ” another first down”.

  47. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 8:48 am

    Let’s hope UH fans can say, “Another touchdown”…

    over and over and over again.

  48. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 8:49 am


    I personally can’t speak to what the atmosphere and marketing is like, so I gotta defer to you on that one. But just pure turnstile numbers is kinda blah.

    As for the merchandising and marketing, yes, UH needs some help. I’m not sure if they have hired a professional public relations firm but if not they should.

  49. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 8:50 am


    damn. my coffee was tasking so much better for a moment. 🙁

  50. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 8:50 am


  51. RedZone November 14, 2011 8:52 am

    Mo has been our leading rusher. If we put in a quarterback who can’t run we will have to step it up in other areas of our offense. Or we could go with a qb who can run.

  52. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 8:59 am

    Let the seniors win it…

  53. RedZone November 14, 2011 9:01 am

    Tulane’s interim coach is being considered for the job at Eastern Illinois. I wonder if he will be around when we play them?

  54. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 9:01 am

    Slugger –

    Nana i kala iluna no Bess a me na Naia! Hulali, hulali! 😆

  55. al November 14, 2011 9:02 am

    its time.

  56. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 9:03 am

    #50 –

    If coffee tastes good, isnt it doing its task?

  57. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 9:06 am


    not necessarily. one of my friends drinks it for its diuretic properties.

  58. King Katonk November 14, 2011 9:12 am

    Fajardo was the L.A. Times player of the year in which he took Servite High to the California state championship. There is loads of talent in the CIF Pac 5 division. In fact, out of the top 25 high school teams in SoCal nearly half of them are from this league. UH would do well to focus their recruiting on those schools.

    A speedy recovery to Bryant. You’re still the soul of the team.

    Warriors 28 / FState 13

  59. Warrior Expat November 14, 2011 9:14 am

    Haven’t been to Aloha Stadium since last year’s Hawaii Bowl. Quick question, and I apologize in advance for my ignorance:

    Is alcohol allowed in the parking lot during pre-game tailgating? I remember during the Hawaii Bowl they were really cracking down, with police in “Liquor Enforcement” jackets. But my friend who has been attending games all season this year says that people are openly drinking during tailgating time and he hasn’t seen any of those Liquor Enforcement jacketed police.

    Which is it?

  60. recruiter training November 14, 2011 9:17 am

    lol funny

  61. warriorwriteup November 14, 2011 9:18 am

    Opposing defenses don’t respect our offense. Here’s why:

    Best of luck to #17. Hope his ankle gets better soon. Here’s to hoping #9 can come around to win the starting job and pull out a couple of victories in the next two games.

  62. Wes'side Warrior November 14, 2011 9:20 am

    Kevin, I hope I’ll be able to make it home for Softball’s Senior Night too. All depends on when our kids go on break here. Hope the timing is right.

  63. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 9:21 am


    The sauce is freely being poured and consumed.

  64. uhfan09 November 14, 2011 9:21 am

    All I will say is SEND MCMACKIN PACKIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  65. LizKauai November 14, 2011 9:23 am

    Prayers and Healing Energy for Mo.

    Your last season of football is one thing but wanting to please a kumu… well… GET WELL SOON!

    Looking forward to SATURDAY!!!

    Chee Hoo!


  66. Pomai November 14, 2011 9:25 am

    If you posted a pix for this game before this time please post it again, my laptop just lost my screen and I can’t use it, so i am back on the old desktop and have to redo the spread sheet.

  67. ai-eee-soos November 14, 2011 9:26 am

    Frezznecks digned up at safety.

    Rotation changes coming?

    By Robert Kuwada

    on November 14, 2011 9:18 AM. … At safety, the Fresno State Bulldogs don’t really have much choice. Free safety Zak Hill broke his left hand in the first quarter of the loss at New Mexico State and will have season-ending surgery, the third of the Bulldogs’ top three safeties to go down with an injury this season.

    Read more:

  68. LizKauai November 14, 2011 9:27 am

    Bowwar: OMG…. God Bless!

    Metzker, 41, died just before 1:30 p.m. today.

    From KTVN:

    — “JK was part of the Channel 2 News family for nearly 14 years. He leaves behind his wife, Jaimie, and three young sons Tommy, 11, Tanner, 10, and Luke, 7.

  69. ai-eee-soos November 14, 2011 9:29 am

    # 67

    that’s “… dinged up … “

  70. Old School Dave November 14, 2011 9:36 am

    Still get chance to go 8-5. When the going gets tough, the tough get going (corny, but so true). Get well soon, Bryant!

  71. LizKauai November 14, 2011 9:39 am


    49-35 LizKauai

  72. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 9:47 am

    “ka la” e kala mai.

  73. Da Punchbowl Kid November 14, 2011 9:47 am

    Pomi 41 UH 21 pups

  74. LizKauai November 14, 2011 9:49 am

    From facebook:

    Bryant Moniz:

    “Iʻd like to give a shout out to all who have taken the time to send me a message. I really appreciate it through this humbling time. I never thought my UH career would end like this but I understand that God has a plan for me. I wish I could be out there with the rest of my brothers but I know that they will continue to fight until the end like warriors. Itʻs been a true honor to represent HAWAII.. BUT THIS WONʻT BE THE LAST TIME YOU HERE ABOUT ME… IʻLL BE BACK (arnold swarchenegger voice)”

  75. Kevin November 14, 2011 9:50 am

    Let me tell you something about atmosphere….

    TONIGHT. 11PM.


    A TRUE home court advantage for UH for once!!!! The ENTIRE lower bowl is fill to capacity with hundreds of students and those willing to make it out for such a unique game atmosphere.



  76. Kevin November 14, 2011 9:54 am

    Coach Gib has a new contract and if we get things going tonight on national TV, it would suit UH right if they POUNCE all over the men’s basketball season and push this thing to the moon.

    Where there is concern and disenchantment in one area, now is the time to STRIKE gold elsewhere.

    UH should capitalize and exploit those that feel “miffed” about the football season at this point and should really push men’s basketball. It sounds “sneaky” but that’s how it is.

  77. LizKauai November 14, 2011 9:58 am


  78. al November 14, 2011 10:01 am


  79. PolyMom November 14, 2011 10:01 am

    What announcement? Sorry I must have missed something.

  80. Old School Dave November 14, 2011 10:03 am

    Go Warriors!!

    Just BEAT BYU!! Can’t stand those guys. That would make up for a lot.

  81. PONO November 14, 2011 10:03 am

    What’s the scoops on recruits. I don’t like the fact that we only have 2 verbals at this point. Lots of schools are pau or close to it.

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  83. Kevin November 14, 2011 10:15 am


    We should consider the recruiting situation for what it is. As a head coach is almost wrapping up his second to last year of his deal with no clear vision of the future until the end of this season, recruiting will take a hit.

    Earlier I said retaining or not retaining Mack was the least of my concerns for this reason amongst many. That last home game and subsequent short comings over the past two years put the rubber stamp on my personal view about retaining him or not so now a decision has to be made.

    BUT alas, we know it will be decided upon AFTER December 3rd at the earliest.

  84. bb November 14, 2011 10:21 am

    i need to make a sign for tonight…..

  85. Kevin November 14, 2011 10:23 am

    CMU … re-arrange the letters… Never gonna forget that one!

  86. bb November 14, 2011 10:28 am

    lol CMU…good times. Ive been told to “keep it clean” 🙁

    With that said, i have an idea on “Pouncing” on the hype of hoops.

  87. Kevin November 14, 2011 10:36 am



    YOU DID!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  88. PONO November 14, 2011 10:52 am

    I know the contract situation has to make recruits nervous but I think we should have more guys locked up by now.

  89. Bulla November 14, 2011 11:13 am


    Such adversity, and now the QB situation. Leave it on the field boys, it is what it is….


  90. Wassup November 14, 2011 11:39 am

    The funny part is that I have been just as guilty as most

    in calling for Mack’s job. But on second thought, he is a

    great person, and I would definitely miss him if he left.

    I think I’m starting to get soft with my old age.

    If he got better at making quick decisions and stop making

    lame excuses, I would still support him despite his Coaching


    That being said, I feel it would be wise for both him, and UH

    to offer about half of what he currently makes, with performance


  91. Kevin November 14, 2011 11:43 am

    What is the issue here?

    The shortcomings or the salary?

    I find it odd and worrisome I some are inclined to accept what has happened this far if Mack’s salary wasn’t in the seven figure range.

    Whether it’s 1.1 million dollars a year or 100,000.00 a year, the results are the SAME. Numerous national television blowouts, odd positional substitutions, questionable attention to development of depth at positions, etc…

    The problem is NOT the salary price tag.

  92. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 11:45 am

    mack sucks as a coach. fire him.

  93. Wassup November 14, 2011 11:48 am

    It’s the tax payer money. Yours and mine.

    We can all have an opinion, and interest in where it’s going. Look around, is it fiscally responsible to keep it at that level?

    I’m just as disatisfied as anyone else, but the $ makes it worse. Just stating my opinion. My second thought is based on the fact that the next may be worse than Mack.

    That is all.

  94. Kevin November 14, 2011 11:50 am

    Bob Nash was an outstanding individual and a real gentleman.. VERY rare in today’s sport’s world.

    Met him NUMEROUS times and he always treated me and others with as much respect as anyone else.

    Much like Coach Mack, I cannot recall how many times I passed him in the halls or on the way up to watch practice and he’d greet people or acknowledge them in kind.

    But enough was enough. basketball support was down as as a revenue sport, that was just unacceptable after a while and now football revenue is at serious risk which ultimately equates to ALL of UH athletics at financial risk.

    No can already.

  95. Kevin November 14, 2011 11:51 am


    Must be the age…

  96. Kevin November 14, 2011 11:52 am

    Full moon lasts longer than I thought I guess….

  97. SteveM November 14, 2011 11:56 am

    DT wrote: As reported this morning, there is growing concern about the Warriors’ lagging attendance….

    I would not blame the coach or team for lagging attendance at Aloha Stadium. I have been ranting for years about how the heat and sun-in-the-face scenario from the well-intentioned (but ignorant bonehead) 5:00 pm starts for 2 years sent many people (mostly seniors) to PPV heaven. I even managed to slide over to 50 yard line seats since the section vacated.

    Study the SA graph and see the trend when you identify the year the 5:00 pm start began and the sunsequent years. How were season ticket sales, especially on the mauka side, the following years?

    Then this year…6:00 pm start is better, but note how many earlier starts we have at home due to TV. I suppose you can blame TV for the lack of attendance. But I would not blame falling attendance solely on the team performance. Administrative haplessness is a contributing factor.

  98. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 12:03 pm

    i got another excuse mack can use. COD MW3. lol.

  99. Bowwar November 14, 2011 12:14 pm

    I still believe strongly in MACK…I’m not so sure I believe in our fair weather fans.

  100. Bowwar November 14, 2011 12:18 pm

    I agree with Steve M…The earlier starts, pay per view, and our tough economy have affected our football attendance. It doesn’t help that life-long parking problems continue to dampen the football experience at “No Aloha”.

  101. anklebiters November 14, 2011 12:25 pm


    UH – 17

    FS – 37

  102. 22Tokyo November 14, 2011 12:32 pm

    I’m coming home to catch the Fresno St game in person and to eat some turkey the following week.


    Here’s my prediction, UH 27 – 20, in OT.

  103. RedZone November 14, 2011 12:32 pm

    I still support Mack and Co.

    Go Warriors.

  104. Not an Expert November 14, 2011 12:35 pm

    Coaching is a big part of the success in winning and losing when the calibar of competition is equal. Looking at this year’s results it could be stated that UH’s coaching staff has been out coached. If UH had the athletes like the top schools in the BCS conferences coaching and winning would be a lot easier. No problem winning the WAC with average coaching ability or less than average coaching ability.

    Whatever direction UH takes by continuing with the current HC or hiring a new HC, the question and direction that needs to be answered is what results do they want as a football program? Do they want UH to be a top 20 program each year or continue to be what they have been for the last 30 plus years?

    If so spell it out and commit the dollars, the faclities and action to that plan of being a top 20 team year in and year out. Or just state we will do our best to continue what strides that has been taken over the last 30 plus years. If the latter no matter who the HC is at UH the results will continue to mirror the last 30 plus years. Coaches will win and will lose and the good ones will leave for better opportunities. The opposites, will be given assistance to leave for better opportunities.

    We had an opportunity when Tomey was hired back in the 70’s and when Jones was coaching. However the institution did not take the opportunity to upgrade with the success on the field. It is a back and forth kind of thing to create and maintain a top program. Winning on the field is not the only ingredient. It will also take the best of facilities and the continuance of money and more money to come in through all sources. These areas are lacking and until we upgrade things off the field any coach at UH will have the same results and problems that have existed over the last 30 plus years.

  105. huh? November 14, 2011 12:42 pm

    If we were undefeated or 9-1 and if we played with efficiency.

    Had we played with calculating precision in our game management.

    We would have 40K plus every home game regardless of economy, ppv, or early game times. It’s what a good program commands.

    I am afraid we have taken one step forward and two steps backwards for the past few years. Before any get on my case, I am not hanging this on the student/athletes of this program. They are out there busting their behinds week after week. But, they are equipped with the “tools” to become a consistent winner.

    Hang this on the direction or misdirection this program has spiraled down to.

  106. A.M. November 14, 2011 12:44 pm

    I’m with you Bowwar (on both #99 & 100). If the fair weather fans (including sportswriters) promote the program as much as they do grumbling & ripping about it, a positive contribution can be made to helping the recruiting effort & making the program better each year.

  107. al November 14, 2011 12:47 pm

    ah…the natives are restless today.

  108. LizKauai November 14, 2011 12:48 pm

    Adding to SteveM’s discussion- I bought my season ticket on the Makai side. Can’t handle the sun any more.

    And I bought my plane tickets several months ago when the fares were relatively reasonable. Hawaiian has a virtual monopoly because Go/Mokulele has been unreliable schedule-wise. Suggestions that extra sections be offered to enable neighbor islanders to get to the game and go home the same night fell on deaf ears.

    If not for the kokua hospitality of fellow Tsai-kos, it would be impossible for me to attend any games at all and my $$ would be best spent in sports bars to watch the games on Kauai.

    It’s not easy to be a Warrior fan today.

    But we just do what we gotta do.


  109. J November 14, 2011 12:51 pm

    PPV will affect not only current game attendance; but for another generation as well. If potential fans can’t see the product, how will they be enticed to attend and experience it in person?

    I grew up with a parent who always said, “No one is paying us to watch.” So no exposure to UH sports via attendance. What did get me to the stadium, Klum, etc…? Being able to watch games on TV because that was free. Staying up for the delayed broadcast on Saturday nights for football and praying for it to be soldout so it would be shown live.

    Simple, I was introduced to the product and then paid for it by attending games later. I had to ask other relatives to take me to the games with them. Then later, when I was legal to drive, I got my friends to go too.

    Every now and then, UH needs to toss a freebie game into the mix. Think of it as one long commercial for the program as well as the university. They need to grow their fanbase and not just try to figure out how to squeeze more funds from their already loyal fans.

  110. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 12:52 pm


    UH 31 Fresno 21

  111. Pomai November 14, 2011 12:58 pm


    21    –    10    Pomai

    27    –    20    22Tokyo

    31    –    21    wafan

    31    –    37    Bowwar

    41    –    21    DPK

    49    –    35    LizKauai

    58    –    28    d1shima

    59    –    21    Ipu Man

  112. Pomai November 14, 2011 1:03 pm

    My 2Cents – it’s not the sun,TV, PPV, parking or early starts, it’s all about winning, like the man said if we had a 11 – 1 in 2008, 2009, 2010 and a 9 – 0 this year there would be 50,000 in the stands every game. It’s all about winning with our type of fans sorry to say.

  113. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 1:04 pm


  114. Pomai November 14, 2011 1:05 pm

    Stopped by Mr. A-house’s rock garden looks good, now you need to add a Hawaiian garden next…….

  115. Lose $ November 14, 2011 1:13 pm


  116. chawan_cut November 14, 2011 1:13 pm

    speaking of students. where were they at the USU game? i maybe saw 30 total in the sea of orange brand new seats? free admission, free bus rides. are they scared of rain? that’s the only reason i could think they didn’t show up.

  117. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 1:19 pm

    The students may have “drifted” over to the better empty seats…

  118. Hoohiki November 14, 2011 1:20 pm

    I think Coach Mack will resign before he gets fired. And Rolovich and Aranda will follow. They’ll find another team that has a bigger budget, has better facilities, more administration support, and most of all, better fans!

    If they leave, who do you think would grovel to come here to all you adoring fans? June Jones (he didn’t want to be here, remember?)? Norm Chow (hah!)? Are you guys hoping for the Punahou Mafia to intervene? How about the recruits? Honestly, after the support they get on this blog, I don’t see why all the big time local recruits don’t stay home. Remember Timmy Chang (Boooo!)? Oh, yeah, and then there was last week when it was Mighty Mo’s turn. I don’t think any of you fair weather fans deserve any time on this blog or a football program to “support”.

  119. A.M. November 14, 2011 1:22 pm

    UH was 10-2 going into the last game of 2010 season. Attendance at that last game: 37820 (nowhere near 50000 unfortunately).

  120. expat November 14, 2011 1:24 pm

    Oregon State is currently 2-8. They have one home win (against 2-8 Arizona). Their home loses so far have been Sacramento State, UCLA, BYU, and Stanford. Sac State is 4-6.

    Attendance has yet to dip below 40K at Reser Stadium. Mike Riley is generally considered a good coach with a good staff.

    There are some things about our coaching staff that frustrate the heck out of me. What do I know though? Coaching is a hard business. June Jones had two losing season out of nine. There were two pretty magical seasons, but especially in 2007 there was a lot of luck involved. Most of the time though we were a 9-10 win team, which is to say a 3 to 5 loss team.

    McMackin will have three years that look about the same at around 50% and one pretty good year at 10 wins. That compares pretty favorably with our Div 1A history.

  121. funny November 14, 2011 1:25 pm

    @118 – Mack, Rolo and Aranda have no market value to any program with a bigger budget than UH. In fact, Mack would be a fool to walk away from his remaining contract because any future head coaching prospects rest on much lower competitive levels and any D1 prospects will likely be as a DC, not a HC.

  122. A.M. November 14, 2011 1:32 pm

    Re #119: Correction – UH was 9-3 going into last game.

  123. 808bowler November 14, 2011 1:36 pm

    Best wishes to moniz. Heal up braddah.

    Was thinking bout this past game. Austin seems to stay in the pocket alot longer then moniz. Thus letting his receivers get open. Seen Austin jus stay in there and his receivers were able to get open. Idk if da line played better or wat. I think Austin going be fine and think hawaii wins this game.

  124. tommui November 14, 2011 1:37 pm

    POMAI #121

    It’s all about winning with our type of fans…

    To a certain extent, Pomai, you are correct. But our typical fans, assuming a 13-0 or 14-0 record, will complain that we are not playing USC, Alabama, Florida, Texas, Michigan etc, and when we do, complain that we are not beating them!

    And the typical fan doesn’t contribute to any of the groups like Na Koa (well,maybe a $1 or two) but expect us to be “big time”.

  125. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 1:37 pm

    i support the program and players. and i feel mack is a terrible coach for the program and players, thats why he should be fired.

  126. tommui November 14, 2011 1:38 pm



    FSU- 3

  127. 808bowler November 14, 2011 1:40 pm

    I do hope they let Moniz carry out the hawaiian flag these remaining games. He represents The people of Hawaii well. I am proud of him.

  128. 808bowler November 14, 2011 1:42 pm

    I do not think he should be fired.

  129. Bryson November 14, 2011 1:53 pm

    so Al has your little birdie been chirping lately?

  130. Pomai November 14, 2011 1:54 pm

    A.M. if you noticed I said consistent, if we had at least a few 11-2 and a 13-0 in a row then yes I think we could fill the stadium 40 to 50 thousand, and yes they would have to include some top out of conference games/wins.

  131. AlaWai November 14, 2011 1:58 pm

    Our fans are quitters. They don’t focus. They don’t perform in the stands like a 12th man. They complain about the sun, the rain, the prices, and the team. They make lame excuses for not showing up to support their team. They cause dissension and disruption. They gave up on the season and are letting down their team mates. The answer is to fire the fans and hire a new group.

    Warriors 50 FSU 0!

  132. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 1:59 pm


  133. LizKauai November 14, 2011 2:01 pm

    A coach gets fired because…

    well, look at Penn State.

    Popularity isn’t everything…

    I like Coach Mack because I see what I am looking for.

    Others hate Coach Mack because they see what they are looking for.

    We can choose to love or not to love.

    For the sake of the kids and their families…

    It’s LOVE, baybee.


  134. Pomai November 14, 2011 2:01 pm

    Both UH and Coach Mack are kind of between the rock and the hard place with this deal.

    1. UH – If they get rid of Mack what then they will not be able to get any experienced Head coach for the amount of money they want to pay (400,000 or less) if they do hire someone for that money it will be an up and coming OC/DC so you have to kiss a few season goodbye while he builds his team and knowledge, hard to do with our fans.

    3. Coach Mack – If he doesn’t get his extension he will retire because he will not find another HC job for that kind of money (1mil to 800G) He could possibly find a DC job for a lot less.

    Not any easy solution to the whole thing, one way or the other fans will suffer.

  135. LizKauai November 14, 2011 2:02 pm

    AlaWai… AMEN!

  136. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 2:04 pm

    actually i want mack fired bc i see what im NOT looking for in a coach. lol.

  137. 808bowler November 14, 2011 2:05 pm

    Ya Ala Wai LizK!!!!!

  138. 808bowler November 14, 2011 2:06 pm

    Gud point. Pomai

  139. Longboard Wheels and Bearings November 14, 2011 2:08 pm

    Obviously I like your web-site, however you need to take a look at the spelling on several of your posts. Many of them are rife with spelling issues and I find it very bothersome to inform you. On the other hand I will surely come back again!

  140. Dan-O November 14, 2011 2:10 pm

    Re: #118….true dat!

    Gotta be careful what you wish for…..much like how people were calling for Wagner’s head after a losing season (attendance was dropping off too), we landed with the man that set the program back a couple of years.

  141. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:13 pm

    Longboard Wheels and Bearings, since when did website or web site become hyphenated?

  142. 808bowler November 14, 2011 2:17 pm

    Think getting a new coach would be suicide going in a new conference. unless they run the same offense all these players and program that we have installed would go to waste. would be starting from scratch. prob go winless next season if they do this. mack runs a clean program. Idk

  143. kev-1 November 14, 2011 2:20 pm

    #75 Kevin . . . . Aww man, I love cosmic bowling. What bowling alley are you talking about? I’ll be sure to come.

  144. kev-1 November 14, 2011 2:22 pm

    nah, I’m excited about the basketball season too.

  145. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:23 pm

    SteveM, you are kidding right? sun and heat causing drop in attendance? how many games are actually played at 5:00 p.m. or earlier at the stadium? plus you gotta consider that some may opt to stay home and watch the game since an earlier start is likely due to an espn broadcast.

  146. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 2:24 pm

    ummmm, Couch Potato

    just incase u not kidding, #139 is a spam bot………..


    seats not filled in Aloha Stadium? Just Win Baby!

    only way to bring in the non hard core fans and band wagoners

    can’t do it by losing half of your games

    best i can do here is buy Warrior gear and pay Oceanic’s fee to watch the game

  147. WarriorMojo November 14, 2011 2:25 pm

    The problem with many Hawaii “fans” is that they too often try to validate themselves by how well the team does. These fans somehow feel that the team’s success is a direct reflection of their own existence or self-worth. If the team is a winner, the team’s fans must also be winners. These fans want to bask in that winning glow.

    On the other hand if the team loses, suddenly it’s “Hawaii sucks!”. These fans do not want to be seen supporting a losing team for fear that other people will think they are losers. Kind of pathetic really, but I think this is a large part of why so many kids want to play on the mainland. “Wow, you must be somebody since you play for Colorado or Washington.” “Wow, you must be nobody since you play for UH.”

    Remember how horrible our attendance was for most of 2007? It was only when people realized the Warriors might be on the verge of something special that suddenly EVERYONE wanted to be a UH fan. We sold out the last few games and stormed the field twice. Where are those people now?

  148. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 2:29 pm

    Wow…it is war on Warrior Fans day.

  149. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:29 pm

    if the admin want a change then change it will be. whether it is an entirely new coaching staff or someone within moving up the ranks it will still be a fresh start.

    who’s to say a coaching change will be a bust or take the program to a higher level? no one can predict the future, just gotta go with the flow. just gotta support one way or the other.

  150. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 2:32 pm

    Some people like to have coach Mac back…some don’t.

    No need to crucify either person. Everyone has the right to

    their opinion. I myself hope Mac stays. We know that we

    will have the run and shoot and a twist or two more. Rolo

    and Aranda, too.

  151. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:32 pm

    Rasu Begasu, i was kidding. not the first spam i replied to and not the last. problem is when st deletes the spam then that makes me look like i’m taking to ghost posts.

  152. jackyamada November 14, 2011 2:35 pm

    sadly the UH student section was empty at the Utah State game. Not gonna be much better this week. Heard there is some beach rager and a concert @ Kakaako that they would rather attend.

  153. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:37 pm

    APEC almost pau? good.

  154. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 2:37 pm

    Would it be just as easy to drop down to FCS?

    We could cut out some wahine sports and be a powerhouse

    with just local kids on the roster

  155. Buffoman November 14, 2011 2:37 pm

    #124 You are probably correct. The interesting thing about your assessment is that if that kind of winning occurred, you’d still have more “buns in seat”. And yes, the complaining will continue. But they would have paid to complain.

    #131 The current situation is currently doing what you’re suggesting. “Fans are being fired”. The bad thing is that no one is replacing them. Seats are still empty as there is not a crop of new fand willing to buy the old product.

    That, is the puzzling predicament the UH finds itself in at the moment. Likeable, friendly does not appear to translate into buns in seat like consistent winning.

    If coach does leave, on his own or otherwise, a good look at winning coaches at D-II or D-III who may be looking to step up may not be a bad moves, as opposed to seeing if there are miles left in another old coaches tank. I believe that folks like Chip Kelly once were at a lower division school.

  156. Ipu Man November 14, 2011 2:37 pm

    A lot of people can’t go to games because they are dirt poor.

    Some are too busy with two or three jobs and too tired to

    try to squeeze in a trip to the stadium. I supposed most die

    hard fans are the poor in this state…(probably enough to fill

    up the stadium) but unfortunalely they

    cannot afford to attend the game. Also some are handicap

    or taking 24/7 care of someone… So please don’t knock fans

    who can’t come. Occupy Bishop Street with your game complaints.

  157. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 2:39 pm

    Couch potato, glad to hear that, on this blog you sometime have to wonder…..

  158. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:41 pm

    pretty sad when a small subset of the population of uh manoa students can’t even fill up the orange seats in section qq.

  159. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 2:44 pm

    #155, UNLV’s coach came from a FCS school (Montana) wher he was a big winner

    Except for his wins over Hawaii and CSU, he pretty much is stuck in quicksand.

    Less than two years and a “Fire Bobby Hauk” movement has started among the few remaining Rebel fans

    Sometimes those FCS masterminds don’t pan out too well

  160. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:48 pm

    maybe a high school coach like gerry faust would work, not.

  161. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 2:54 pm

    Truth is, when living in Hawaii, I only went to a few UH games.

    Most Saturday nights I would take a load of screaming Japanese tourists to PCC

    (yes, screaming, those busses were big and Kam Hwy is sooo curvy at times)

    That would be the big money night, pay the mortgage, pay the car, a few bucks for Thuy at Saigon Passion etc

    At 5 am I would watch the video taped delay broadcast

  162. WarriorMojo November 14, 2011 2:54 pm

    Re #148 and #156

    Don’t know if you were referring to my #147, but it’s absolutely not war on Warrior fans day for me. I’m just pointing out that the mentality of Hawaii fans needs to change if we are to have a sustainable program.

    Every time I see one of the “fans” post about how “Hawaii sucks” or so and so is a “wasted scholie”, I freaking cringe. This mind set that certain fans will only support the team when the team wins is pathetic. Don’t just wait to eat the finished product. Help MAKE it. Help FINISH it. If you live in Hawaii, you have a direct personal interest in athletic and academic success at UH, even if you and your family never went to school there.

    “Protect Da Aina”. It’s true now more than ever, lgw, whether you want to believe it or not, whether you want to accept it or not.

  163. Couch potato November 14, 2011 2:55 pm

    disappointments this past weekend,

    obviously the loss to nevada.

    pacquiao’s lackluster win.

    lack of first page coverage in the star advertiser for Wahine vb senior night.

    forget to record ufc on fox.

  164. Fridge Filter November 14, 2011 2:59 pm

    Thanks, I really appreciate your wisdom on this one. Have a great day and I look forward to coming back again.

  165. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:00 pm

    obama should have told the leaders he’d be honored it they wore the exclusive aloha shirts for the group photo. THIS IS HAWAII! that’s our brand!

  166. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 3:02 pm

    Re:Pacquiao’s lackluster win,

    The Pinoy nurses were all abuzz about

    his fight and possible break up with his wife today

    Hey! They gotta know

  167. letsgowarriors November 14, 2011 3:04 pm

    yeah Protect Da Aina. we need to rid ourselves of Mack before he sinks the team!

  168. 808bowler November 14, 2011 3:06 pm

    New coach or not I’m at the games. Winning or losing I’m at the games.

    Go Warriors!!!!

  169. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:07 pm

    Rasu Begasu, pacquiao’s wife was praying for a positive decision from the judges, she looked worried. that was his wife right?

  170. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:10 pm

    i should take a nap now so i can watch the uh basketball game tonight.

  171. WarriorMojo November 14, 2011 3:12 pm

    Re #167

    That may be true.

    But we also need to rid ourselves of excessive negativity. Support the team. Support the school. Support the State.

  172. Stephen Tsai November 14, 2011 3:13 pm

    So, APEC ends and gas prices go back over $4.


  173. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:14 pm

    ST, you talking costco regular gas price?

  174. Bryson November 14, 2011 3:16 pm

    Why so much negativity? This season reminds me of “05 when JJ had to break in Colt,DB,RGM into the R-n-S offense….what happened the following 2 season’s was amazing….extension or not Mack is gonna be here next season and he’ll need the support…

  175. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 3:17 pm

    Couch potato,

    yup, his wife, I think she was praying for 60% of the purse

    and the estate, and the servants etc…

  176. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 3:18 pm

    gas is $3.59 out here

  177. Contingency Plan November 14, 2011 3:18 pm

    Mark Banker(58) – D.C. Oregon State***

    Jay Locey(56) – Asst. Head Coach/WR’s Oregon State***

    Nick Holt(49) – D.C. University of Washington***

    Doug Nussmeier(40) – O.C. University of Washington***

    Beau Baldwin(39) – Head Coach Eastern Washington***

    Mark Farley(48) – H.C. Northern Iowa***

    Robb Akey(45) – H.C. Idaho Vandals***

    Dirk Koetter(52) – O.C. Jacksonville Jaguars**

    Steve Kragthorpe(46) – QB’s LSU**

    Brent Pease(47) – O.C. Boise State**

    Dana Dimel(49) – Co. O.C. Kansas State**

    Rocky Seto(35) – Defensive Quality Control Seattle Seahawks**

    Duane Akina(53) – DB’s University of Texas Longhorns**

    Brian Cabral(55) – LB’s Colorado Buffs**

    Keith Uperesa(55) – Offensive Line Nichols State**

    Keith Burns(51) – DB’s Ole Miss.

    Mike Stoops(50) – formerly H.C. University of Arizona

    Dan Hawkins(50) – formerly HC Colorado/Boise State

    Karl Dorrell(48) – WR’s Miami Dolphins

    Tom Cable(47) – Asst. Head Coach Seattle Seahawks

    Scot Linehan(48) – O.C. Detroit Lions

    Gary Crowton(54) – O.C. University of Maryland

    Jack Bicknell Jr.(48) – O.L. New York Giants

    Jeff Tisdel(55) – Head Coach Rocklin J.C.

    Jeff Horton(54) – Asst. Head Coach San Diego State Aztecs

    Dave Baldwin(56) – O.C. Utah State U.

    Brent Guy(51) – D.C. University of Tulsa

    Mike Sanford(56) – Formerly O.C. Louisville

    Chuck Long(48) – O.C. University of Kansas

    Robert Anae(52) – O.C./Run Game University of Arizona

    Kalani Sitake(36) – D.C. University of Utah

    Jeff Monken(44) – Head Coach Georgia Southern

    Pete Kwiatowski(46) – D.C. Boise State

    Jim Leavitt(54) – LB’s 49ers

    Mike Leach(50) – ???

    Tommy Bowden(57) – ???

    Larry Porter(39) – H.C. Memphis Tigers

    Dave Clawson(44) – H.C. Bowling Green

    Paul Wulff(44) – H.C. Washington State Cougars

    Jeff Tedford(50) – H.C. Cal Bears

    Rob Ianello(46) – H.C. Akron

    Jeff Quinn(49) – H.C. University of Buffalo

    Everett Withers(48) – Interim H.C. North Carolina

    Kevin Wilson(50) – H.C. Indiana Hoosiers

    Mark Hutson(45) – Interim Head Coach Tulane Green Wave

    George Barlow(43) – Interim Head Coach New Mexico Lobos

    Dan Enos(42) – Head Coach Central Michigan

    Randy Edsall(53) – Head Coach Maryland Terrapins

    Aaron Price(??) – WR coach UTEP

    Eric Price(??) – O.C. Memphis Tigers

    Robin Pflugard(53) – H.C. Montana Grizzlies

    Craig Bohl(53) – H.C. North Dakota State

  178. 808bowler November 14, 2011 3:18 pm


    Hows Kevin Spain doing?

    Herd he supposed to be gud.

  179. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 3:22 pm

    Don’t know what that list of coaches is for but

    Mike Sanford is to UNLV what Von Ap was to UH and N Turner was to the Redskins

    the wrong choice at the wrong time

  180. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:22 pm

    Rasu Begasu, lol.

    Bryson, i think it is just people voicing their opinions rather than negativity. it just depends on one’s perspective on the subject. while some may see it as being negative for wanting the coach to be fired, others see it as being negative in keeping the status quo.

  181. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:25 pm

    Contingency Plan, what do the asterisks represent?

  182. Rasu Begasu November 14, 2011 3:27 pm

    This season I’d be happy with a berth in the bowl game

    and not gettig blown out again on national tv

    Can you hear me June?

  183. Pride. November 14, 2011 3:30 pm

    Continue having positive thoughts gang. Think healing thoughts for our injured Warriors. Think healing thoughts for our entire football program. Think healing thoughts for all of mankind. Think healing thoughts for mother earth. We all need healing from the everyday trials and disappointments. Lift our chin up, put our shoulders back, put a smile on our face, and say to ourselves with conviction, we have a great football team, we play with passion and enthusiasm. Ke Akua will watch over us and guide us. We will be in the Hawaii bowl. We expect to be in the Hawaii bowl. Think and act in a positive manner.

  184. haka November 14, 2011 3:37 pm

    I believe in the Warriors!

    I believe in the Coaches!

    I believe in the Team!

    Go UH!

    Go UH!

    Go UH!

  185. Couch potato November 14, 2011 3:38 pm

    healing thoughts is a given, no one in their right mind would think otherwise.



  186. RedZone November 14, 2011 3:47 pm

    If Edsall comes here do we get the Kikaida unis too?

  187. AlaWai November 14, 2011 3:48 pm

    Pride – Amen. We live in the best place on earth. Everything else is gravy!

  188. haka November 14, 2011 3:52 pm


    If you can keep your head when all about you

    Are losing theirs and blaming it on you;

    If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you,

    But make allowance for their doubting too;

    If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,

    Or, being lied about, don’t deal in lies,

    Or, being hated, don’t give way to hating,

    And yet don’t look too good, nor talk too wise;

    If you can dream – and not make dreams your master;

    If you can think – and not make thoughts your aim;

    If you can meet with triumph and disaster

    And treat those two imposters just the same;

    If you can bear to hear the truth you’ve spoken

    Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,

    Or watch the things you gave your life to broken,

    And stoop and build ’em up with worn out tools;

    If you can make one heap of all your winnings

    And risk it on one turn of pitch-and-toss,

    And lose, and start again at your beginnings

    And never breath a word about your loss;

    If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew

    To serve your turn long after they are gone,

    And so hold on when there is nothing in you

    Except the Will which says to them: “Hold on”;

    If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,

    Or walk with kings – nor lose the common touch;

    If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;

    If all men count with you, but none too much;

    If you can fill the unforgiving minute

    With sixty seconds’ worth of distance run –

    Yours is the Earth and everything that’s in it,

    And – which is more – you’ll be a Man my son!

    Rudyard Kipling

    Go Warriors!

  189. WarriorNY November 14, 2011 3:55 pm

    I hope UH holds on to Mack for at least one more year. Mack’s luck taking over has been just awful… 2008 – QB situation(from Graunke to Inoke to Alexander to Rausch) and an inexperienced offense… 2009 – Starting QB who was one of the best in the country goes down midway through season. Finished the year with 4 string QB.. 2010 – Actually had a healthy team—-WAC Champions! 2011 – More injuries than any other team I can remember…

    I’m not trying to make excuses for the guy but look at his tenure from a realistic point of view.

    I mean the guy has only had one year where he had a solid QB for the entire season…

  190. Stretch November 14, 2011 4:01 pm

    It’s going to come down to more than just the wins and losses

  191. Tyson F. Gautreaux November 14, 2011 4:01 pm

    Article very cool.thanks and wished a good day!

  192. al November 14, 2011 4:06 pm

    bryson…the little birdie said that there will be no news on recruiting for awhile.

    and his mouth, or is it his bill?, is full of crackers that he can’t sing right now.

  193. al November 14, 2011 4:07 pm

    is it mouth, bill, or beak?

    should it be sing or whistle?

    anyway you get the point right…?

  194. al November 14, 2011 4:09 pm

    177…impressive list. looks like you been doing your homework or hearing a lot of tweets.

    banker could bring in cav as his associate/oline guy.

  195. huh? November 14, 2011 4:10 pm


    One word, ineptitudeness.

  196. huh? November 14, 2011 4:17 pm

    189. huh?

    After four years, who’s fault would you lay blame for not building depth?

    Perhaps we need a coach and a whole staff that will go out and recruit all year round. Aren’t they paid a salary?

    Isn’t a salary for a whole year?

    We have a staff who feels that they are paid for only six months. They go home and play instead of doing their job. We should pay them part time money if thats the case.

    We have position coaches who haven’t improved their position players? They get into combines and camps and the experts there scratch their heads. They see amazing physical specimens who still haven’t learned the basic rudiments of the game.

    So who’s responsible for all this?


  197. huh? November 14, 2011 4:18 pm


    There are some coaches worth every penny and yes they recruit all year round.

    Rolo, Tuioti, Smith, Aranda for example.

  198. hon2255 November 14, 2011 4:22 pm

    how can the coaches miss out on Fajardo, the guy can run and pass accurately, great athlete, another failure in our recruiting!

  199. al November 14, 2011 4:29 pm

    i heard that fajardo sent his recruit tape and a letter of interest.

    i guess he was too fast for us (4.7/40).

  200. al November 14, 2011 4:29 pm


  201. Buffoman November 14, 2011 4:30 pm

    The question is, if we passed on Fajardo, do we have a Fajardo or better in the wings? If so, it was okay to pass. If not, oh well…

  202. al November 14, 2011 4:31 pm

    197…we have been repeatedly told that “we have gone to every high school in hawaii and spoke to every football coach and made contact with every outstanding player.”

    okay, so maybe we couldn’t remember their names. both coaches and players.

  203. Buffoman November 14, 2011 4:35 pm

    I think that there are real gems in the junior class. That QB from Baldwin is a great athlete. He could be outstanding as a receiver. I think that Wiley, the running back from Kahuku is the real deal. He is so smooth. I may have a bias but I think he’s the best in the State right now.

  204. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 4:51 pm


    what a tease to Warrior fans to mention Cav as a possibility. What a wonderful x-mas it would be if Cav came back to paradise.

  205. Hawaiianbod November 14, 2011 4:55 pm

    LizK – WOO HOO! Your facebook comment re APEC was just resd on HawaiiNewNow.

  206. sockpuppet November 14, 2011 5:24 pm

    Since all the sock puppet keep popping up … thought I’d get into the spirit also … get some allas guys ……

  207. bigislandkurt November 14, 2011 5:28 pm

    If the Mack gets canned, it would be heartbreaking to see some of these coaches go. Especially Tuioti. He is a head coach in the making. I would love to see him lead the warriors one day.


  208. madeinhawaii November 14, 2011 5:44 pm

    For most positions, we have good depth, unfortunately they are young and green because Mack has been recruiting primarily out of high schools since 2008. Mack doesn’t want to burn their red shirt years and put them out too soon. I respect his decision. Some need to bulk up, others may need to focus on academics in their first two years, and still others may need more time to learn the play book. Don’t forget we lost a number of key players at the last minute due to enrollment issues, too. Players that would easily qualify elsewhere.

  209. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 5:47 pm

    Tuioti is the only coach I actually see emote. I like that. You can tell when he is excited. He shows it. Energy+Passion. Good speaker too.

    Well aside from Mack when he gets those crazy eyes when the refs screw up.

  210. Markazulu November 14, 2011 5:50 pm

    Shouts out to Moniz! BUT most people are over REACTING with Mcmackin first of all I say wait till the end of the season to judge IF we win out an win a bowl game then ok offer him a 2 year extension but If we lose then oh well. We won a wac title last year an still the stadium was horrible a 10-4 team we blew out everyone BUT Boise St! An well I do agree with the sheraton Hawai’i Bowl performance in parts of were a coach should produce an he didnt but Overall Mac has done a good job. I wish we were better than a .500 team every year but its gonna take time I mean the same fans calling for Mcmackin’s head also called for June Jones to be fired in 04 after we lost to a division 2 team but until we won our final 4 games he was on the “hot seat” now are CALLING him arguably our BEST COACH EVER! An the same fans called Colt Brennan out during the 05 season jumped on the bandwagon till the sugar bowl. Our Fans are just fickle an only support when they can be Nationally recognize me to but I still cheer an support! I think though getting rid of our coaches right now is horrible to do. Mac an the boys just need to keep playing an winning people will jump on the bandwagon if WE GET that national recognition again!

  211. papajoe2 November 14, 2011 6:00 pm

    Anybody know what happened to Justin Alo the greyshirt recruit?

  212. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 6:02 pm

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  213. papajoe2 November 14, 2011 6:10 pm

    What if the University of Hawaii offered free seats to the next game to anybody? Just come on down and you get in free and sit wherever there are open seats. No need ticket takers, but connot sit in a seat if somebody has a ticket. I still don’t think that the stadium would fill up. Just the inconvience of traffic, parking, security trying to get into the stadium, cannot bring in outside food, work till 5 o’clock, and on and on.

  214. madeinhawaii November 14, 2011 6:11 pm


    I’m kind of glad only one or two of our coaches really emote and get caught up in the moment. If all of them did, things might get out of hand, or the coaches not taken seriously. We wouldn’t need team leaders then, either. They’d only get in the way.

  215. RedZone November 14, 2011 6:12 pm

    Kanoa said on the news that he is going to do the play by play on tonights game on ESPN.

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  217. Wassup November 14, 2011 6:22 pm

    Looking ahead… The only team I hate more than Fresno is BYU. Redemption in the form of beating ‘um both would be awesome.

  218. cocobean November 14, 2011 6:23 pm

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  219. madeinhawaii November 14, 2011 6:23 pm

    Hopefully Basketball will be a good distraction tonight… something to perk us all up.

  220. funny November 14, 2011 6:29 pm

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  221. mauifarmdog November 14, 2011 6:31 pm


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  222. Ralph November 14, 2011 6:32 pm

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  223. tom-warriornation November 14, 2011 6:43 pm

    Just spoke with Bryant Moniz’ dad; said his surgery went well–took only 45 minutes– it was a clean break and needed 3 pins. My sister was there Queens as my father needed a 2nd surgery just now also.

  224. tom-warriornation November 14, 2011 6:44 pm

    oops; I meant at Queens.

  225. RedZone November 14, 2011 6:45 pm

    Get well Mo.

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  229. el burro sabio November 14, 2011 7:11 pm

    I’ve posted this before – Division I and I-AA schools are looking for about 5000 new players every year.

    That’s a lot of kids to sort through so I don’t get too hung up on the ones that got away, the ones that the coaches looked at but didn’t offer, the ones that the coaches didn’t even look at, or every single player who want to transfer from another school. All that matters is that the coaches can find 25 new players every year who can play and play well, fit in, and be good citizens, and who cares where they come from or how they are found (in other words, don’t knock the walk-ons).

  230. Old Diver November 14, 2011 7:15 pm

    Every week I pick UH to win just because I want UH to win. Many times I will come up with some outrageous score cause it’s just for fun. This week I have that feeling. I can’t explain it, I can’t describe it, it’s just a feeling . The Warrior’s are going to put everything together this week.



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  231. Derek November 14, 2011 7:27 pm

    The attendance being down is not a surprise. A lot of people are just disgusted. Losing is one thing, but how we lost is the thing that bites people’s ass. And, it’s not like we are losing to real good teams. UNLV, San Jose St., and Utah St.??? These are teams we beat badly last year. Don’t under estimate Fresno State. They are desperate for a win and they can score a lot of points. Their problem is that they give up a lot of points too. But, we lose our starting QB so that has got to hurt. I can see us losing to Fresno St. in a game that will go down to the 4th quarter, and maybe the last possession and if you look at our season has been going I think we will screw it up in the end. Take the 6 points on Fresno. Fresno State – 34, Hawaii-31.

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    1) Ian Johnson, former Boise St. great RB is on the practice squad of the San Francisco 49ers.

    2) Aaron Rodgers played at Butte junior college before getting a scholarship from California, the same junior college that Alex Green went to. Coincidentally Rodgers and Green are teammates on the Packers.

    3) Jordon Rodgers, Aaron’s brother, is the starting QB at Vanderbilt. He’s a clone of his brother. Throws the same way, runs like him too. He’s also very good. I predict he will be in the NFL in a couple of years.

  232. kev-1 November 14, 2011 8:04 pm

    #177 . . . talk about just making a list for lists sake. How about stating your preference? Oh, wait. Some people might call you a fair weather fan if your opinion contrasts theirs.

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  234. Derek November 14, 2011 8:12 pm

    UH hasn’t covered the spread since they beat La Tech. That’s a long time ago. This UH team is not to be trusted. I wouldn’t be surprised if we lose to Tulane too. Remember, Conference USA teams are a lot better than WAC teams that’s for sure. Examples, Houston and Southern Miss are ranked. Tulsa is a very good team and getting some votes. SMU is good. Central Florida is good. UTEP ain’t bad. Marshall ain’t bad. Rice is half decent. Hawaii has bad karma this year. Too many injuries and bad coaching spells disaster. But, don’t lament. Boise St. has kickiung problems too, in fact, 3 bad kicks cost Boise St. 2 BCS bids and 2 undefeated seasons. Chris Peterson and Kellen Moore must be shaking their heads and saying “oh, so close”. But, credit TCU. They kept coming back and made the all important 2 pt. conversion. Gary Patterson is a very good coach.

    Interesting list of possible candidates for the next Head Coaching job. 1 possible is not on the list who I shall not name, but when my friend mentioned his name to me it made a lot of sense and I would have never thought he might be interested. But, he might be interested and my friend knows him personally so I trust my friend’s opinion.

  235. AlaWai November 14, 2011 8:18 pm

    If the reason why attendance is down because we are losing games, then how does anyone explain 2007 when we were winning and there were still many open seats in the stands? Is UH football now a business of entertainment for bettors? Are we now a football mill where winning at all costs is priority one? Is our APR more important than our graduation rate? I may be an unrealistic idealist, but I always thought that supporting your state school was just as important as going to your kids soccer or little league game. I stayed loyal to my high school teams through thick and thin, win or lose. If this is what we have become we don’t deserve a football program. We should dismantle our AD, lower tuition and become a community college. Legalize sports betting here so we can at least raise revenue rather than debating the worth of a football coach. Everyone would then be united in our disdain and disgust.

  236. papajoe2 November 14, 2011 8:23 pm

    #220, I know that those with tickets will be mad and UH will never let all those people in for free, but the point is, I don’t think that the stadium will fill up even if its free. Just ask the students. And they get free transportation.

  237. papajoe2 November 14, 2011 8:26 pm

    Ralph, yep, I wen go public skul, but one coach said no worry, I no need pay, cuz he wen put me on skolarship.

  238. admrvt November 14, 2011 8:30 pm

    #104 Not an Expert makes some good points, but let me add to them. The root of the problem is not coach Mac, but goes much deeper. There are many factors but they are inter-related.

    Remember – a “house divided against itself cannot stand.” How successful we will be as a program and as a team, year in and year out — at least how we “feel” about being successful, is the result of several factors: 1) our expectations, 2) funding, 3) recruiting, and coaching.

    What are our realistic expectations for this program and team? 9-3 or 10-2 EVERY year? A conference championship every other year?

    Are we committed to funding this expectation every year? Does our administration support this level? Before we think about our coaching — is this important foundation in place? Do we have 200 fans who donate $10K every year to drive this expectation? If we do not retain coach Mac, we expect to have a more successful successor by cutting the salary to a base of $600 – 700K? Someone posted a list of successors. How many on that list can we realistically get? Many of the OCs or DCs on that list already make more than this base range, yet we think they will apply?

    Until a few years ago, when Mac came one, what funding did our admin give our coaches to recruit with? $20,000? Gee, I wonder why recruiting was so dismal? Mac got better funding, and has now tried to focus less on JCs and more HS recruits, but it takes time for HS recruits to be able to compete when we expect winning seasons against better competition each year.

    In spite of all our deficiencies in lack of adequate funding, lack of support by UH admin, high expectations, etc., June gave the team a chance by bringing in a system — the RNS, that didn’t require physical superiority to compete against the haves. But, that can only go so far, with luck and avoiding injuries.

    Critics say its is time to change coaches. Fine, but there are more fundamental problems that need to be solved and still have not been. Until you find a way to get fans to show up and average 40,000 per game, you will not get the funding you need to meet expectations of these critical fans. Another 15,000 fans per game x $30 per fan x 7 home games = might generate the funds to improve changes of meeting the high expectations these fans want.

    But, be careful. The next Von Appen is waiting for his chance to lead.

  239. palolo November 14, 2011 8:38 pm

    Did anyone listen to Bobby Curren today. He is a nut in love with QB Mo. He said Austin is bad, and is not close to Mo in talent. He wants us to all give up and not go to anymore games? Bobby needs to listen to himself and be more positive towards our football team. I love the Rainbows and will love them when all these punks go collect there gambling winnings betting against UH like Mo’s family.

  240. Slugger November 14, 2011 8:44 pm

    I don’t listen to Bobby Curren. Not worth it.

  241. AlaWai November 14, 2011 8:46 pm

    admrvt: Right on. The question is how to get another 15K fans in the seats. Do we ban alcohol sales to make games for family friendly? Will a family of four shell out $120 for tickets. $80 for food. Multiply by seven games and you have annual expenses of over $1,500 per household. Somebody has to foot the bill for a better program and our state has shown diminishing interest in doing so.

  242. Shoko November 14, 2011 8:50 pm

    Two more hours till UH plays CS Northridge. Man, eyes getting heavy already. If no can, then I guess no can.

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    That’s good to hear regarding Moniz. Now I hope it all heals up without any complications. I wish him the very best.

  245. al November 14, 2011 9:09 pm

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  250. Hawaiian November 14, 2011 9:28 pm

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    …I rest my case!!!

  251. Old Diver November 14, 2011 9:34 pm


    I hope his next quote is not something about slipping on a bar of soap. Very sad situation for the victims.

  252. Hawaiian November 14, 2011 9:35 pm

    Attendance is down…everyone keep enjoying PPV, it won’t be around soon! Then you’ll have no choice but to go to games like all true fans! Attendance will increase due to the team being good AND no more PPV!

  253. Shoko November 14, 2011 9:42 pm

    Sandusky said about the incident in the PSU locker room that the kid turned on all the showers and turned the showers into a “Slip-N-Slide” which he said would explain the slapping noise McQueary heard.

    Hmm, really?

  254. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 14, 2011 9:43 pm


    How about our O-lines were good when he was here and his O-lines up in OSU were pretty damn good too.

    There, I rest my case….

  255. AlaWai November 14, 2011 10:04 pm

    Meant RPI not APR…

  256. RedZone November 14, 2011 10:38 pm

    Go Rainbows.

  257. madeinhawaii November 14, 2011 10:54 pm

    Ala Wai,

    Somebody has to up our local economy so that more can afford to go to the games and watch it live. Even those that watch for free at the Kaneohe food court aren’t eating much… most don’t even have a soft drink in front of them after the first qtr. Worse, they are still occupying the seats.

  258. PowderPuff November 14, 2011 11:16 pm

    I can’t believe I’m up watching basketball…this is crazy late for an old lady like me. Who was mentioning…that wouldn’t it be cool (or maybe not) if President Obama showed up to the SSC? Maybe it was al?

    Obama says aloha tomorrow. This weekend, Fresno State and Pac-Man. I don’t even know if I heard right, but did someone say Pacquiao is going to the Fresno State game this Saturday?

  259. al November 14, 2011 11:30 pm

    no not me miss pp.

  260. tommui November 14, 2011 11:44 pm

    Hawaiian: #252 Why is it that physically able people have no feelings for people with disabilities?

  261. LizKauai (macbook) November 14, 2011 11:52 pm

    What’s happening at the BB game?

  262. LK November 14, 2011 11:52 pm

    Congrats to Slugger who won 200.00 for shooting basketballs at halftime.

  263. LizKauai (macbook) November 14, 2011 11:53 pm

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  264. LizKauai (macbook) November 14, 2011 11:54 pm

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  265. LK November 14, 2011 11:56 pm

    She was so excited, she couldn’t remember where her seats were after coming off the court.

  266. AlaWai November 15, 2011 12:06 am

    Liz, PPV should be free to those with Disabilities verified by Parking Permits. Many households economically strapped by caring for disabled and kupuna. Also Student Tickets are for 4 – 18 yr olds are way too expensive at $24 as well as for Sr. Citizens at $30.

  267. LizKauai (macbook) November 15, 2011 12:07 am

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  268. SteveM November 15, 2011 12:09 am

    Just saw Kevin jumping and cheering on ESPN (UH basketball game).

    …kinda .close-up too 😆

  269. SteveM November 15, 2011 12:13 am

    RE: #261

    Congrats to Slugger!

    …Maple Garden? 😕

  270. LizKauai (macbook) November 15, 2011 12:22 am

    AlaWai- Until there is balance to the force, there will be these difficulties…

  271. AlaWai November 15, 2011 12:25 am

    Sadly true, but unless dogs bark no one hears them.

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    Sorry forgot to bark. Kanoa doing a great job.

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    OK… set my dvr… gotta go to sleep…

  276. Slugger November 15, 2011 1:23 am

    It was fun… I was shooting against Christy who is my community garden neighbor. Two short women who can’t shoot baskets. Lay up? No way… BUT… thanks to Myki, I got to the game. Na Wahine is getting some of this kala!


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