Not-so-fond farewells

Every homegrown star football player who goes to a Mainland school experiences, to some degree, the LeBron-like backlash.

Is it fair? Probably not. Island sons have a right to do what’s best for themselves and their families.

Would it be different for UH fans if a Hawaii-raised player plays two years for the Warriors, then decides to transfer because he wants  to go a team with a better chance to go to a BCS game?

Your thoughts.

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Wanting to gauge the mood in South Florida, a call was placed to our Miami correspondent.

“Everything’s great,” Davone Bess said. “But I’m in California. It’s great out here in the Bay Area.”

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Is it a marketing thing, from the Super Bowl to LeBron’s signing, that Miami is always referred to as South Florida? And if so, if that makes it more inclusive for surrounding towns, then should UH marketing folks refer to Hawaii as South Pacific? Or, as TrueGreen correctly points out, North Pacific?

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In keeping with the theme of  Warrior-related LeBron items, Robert Kekaula said he thinks Anthony Carter would be the perfect point guard in South Florida. AC plays defense, and would prefer to pass than shoot.

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Back to football. Talking story with a slotback and defensive  back the other day, the subject turned to UH quarterbacks. Both agreed that Brent Rausch is the hardest thrower. “He deserves a chance,” the slotback said. Both also agreed that Bryant Moniz has the best touch on his passes. The UH coaches have said that Rausch, Moniz, David Graves and Shane Austin will open training camp in the first tier of quarterbacks.

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Interesting that in 11-on-11 scrimmages during UH’s unsupervised workouts, the defense is always aligned in a nickel scheme. Here’s the first group (tentative, of course, since Paipai Falemalu is expected to be a starter somewhere):

Left end: Elliott Purcell

Left tackle: Vaughn Meatoga

Right tackle: Haku Correa

Right end: Kamalu Umu

Weakside linebacker: Corey Paredes

Strongside linebacker: Aaron Brown

Nickelback: Richard Torres

Left cornerback: Lametrius Davis

Strong safety: Spencer Smith

Free safety: Mana Silva

Right cornerback: Jeramy Bryant

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Time to give away another $25 RainBowTique certificate (compliments of Stretch and our karaoke-singing readers).

To enter, please post: I want to win a championship.

Avis Yasumura, our favorite cardiac nurse, will choose  the winner.


  1. d1島 July 9, 2010 6:34 am

    I want to win a championship.

  2. truegreen July 9, 2010 6:34 am

    No, cuz Hawaii is NOT in the South Pacific. It’s north of the equator so wouldn’t that make it the North Pacific?

  3. d1島 July 9, 2010 6:34 am

    …and I am ready for football.

  4. jm2375 July 9, 2010 6:35 am


    Good morning!

  5. jm2375 July 9, 2010 6:35 am

    dang. ok top 5!

  6. d1島 July 9, 2010 6:35 am

    …maybe South America?

  7. jm2375 July 9, 2010 6:36 am

    I want to win a championship.

  8. jm2375 July 9, 2010 6:37 am

    d1 – #6 – bwahahahaha!

  9. truegreen July 9, 2010 6:37 am

    Sorry, one of my pet peeves. Right along side people who misuse the word “ironic” when they talk about a “coincidence”. NOT the same thing…

  10. d1島 July 9, 2010 6:37 am

    UH fans cheer for UH players, nuff sed.

  11. truegreen July 9, 2010 6:38 am

    Oh, and I want to win a championship

  12. d1島 July 9, 2010 6:38 am

    really gotta go HiHo now….

  13. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 6:40 am

    South America does make the most sense.
    That d1 is smart . . . for a Damien guy.

  14. Garret July 9, 2010 6:40 am

    I want to win a championship.

  15. Garret July 9, 2010 6:42 am

    You can drive very easily to Miami from anywhere in South Florida, with the freeways making it a quick drive. Can you get to Hawaii from Samoa and Tahiti in 30 minutes for $3 in gas?

  16. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 6:42 am

    I avoid “ironic” since I don’t know how to use it.
    But I think I was correct on my “affect change” yesterday. Isn’t affect a verb, and effect a noun?
    Then again, I’m still trying to figure out Hawaii’s location.

  17. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 6:43 am

    I guess South Beach Diet sounds better than Miami Diet.

  18. Garret July 9, 2010 6:44 am

    So, no MLB is used during UH’s offseason 11-on-11 practices. With relatively little experience at MLB this season, might some scrimmage time be useful for them? Maybe UH’s problems at MLB last year can be partially attributed to a lack of practice time due to the offense UH runs…no scout team in the offseason.

  19. Garret July 9, 2010 6:46 am

    “He deserves a chance,” the slotback said.

    Rausch has had some really bad luck with injuries and his time is running out. I’d like to see him get a chance, but UH has so many QB options so I don’t know if he’ll ever get a real shot in games before his Warrior career ends.

  20. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 6:48 am

    What I don’t like about “Miami” is the word play on Miami Vice.
    The Golden Girls? Miami Nice
    Cool reception? Miami Ice
    Scandals? Miami Fleiss

  21. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 6:49 am

    Rausch reminds me of Jared Flint.

  22. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 6:49 am

    I want to win a championship. And since this is BSU’s last year with us, let it be this season!!! Go, Warriors!!!

  23. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 6:55 am

    I want to win a championship.

  24. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 6:55 am


    effect is a verb, also.

    Effect a change == make a change happen

  25. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 7:01 am

    I guess I’ll effect an apology.

  26. chopsueyboy July 9, 2010 7:04 am

    I want to win a championship.

    If only I was 30 years younger, taller, and with talent, maybe I could win a championship

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!

  27. chopsueyboy July 9, 2010 7:05 am


    Frank Mow had a son named Phillip.
    flowergirl said your mom stopped by but I was out on deliveries

  28. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 7:05 am

    If we can overcome the “little school” moniker, then perhaps, eventually, local studs leaving for mainland schools will become a non-issue. It will definitely take a concerted effort by everyone, from fans up through to the top of our state government. It’s up to us as to how badly we want to improve and progress.
    So, we’re always in the nickel in summer. For the benefit of both offense and defense, we need to work on a couple of other “looks” on defense, for familiarization, if nothing else. Don’t we have an inkling on how USC will line up against us? How about practicing against that for a bit?

  29. Bigislandkurt July 9, 2010 7:07 am

    Moniz is the man. He will be the starter.

    As for the discussion you posed, I think we did have a kid transfer out of Hawaii after starting off with a pretty good showing: Abu Ma’afala. I remember some small chatter here and there, but for the most part, he was merely an afterthought when he left.


  30. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 7:13 am

    You’re right. I forgot about Abu.
    His situation was a little more complicated. I think he wanted to redshirt, only he expressed that during the summer, and JJ got irked.
    He was a good guy, and good player
    I also thought Jeremy Inferrera was going to be a star at UH.

  31. Maverick July 9, 2010 7:14 am

    Geographic correctness – East Pacific

  32. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 7:14 am


    Regarding Anthony Carter: Isn’t Steve Nash a better point guard? I wish he would go to Miami. What a team that would be!

  33. Pomai July 9, 2010 7:16 am

    affect, effect, uffect, dffect who cares

    I want to win a championship.

  34. chopsueyboy July 9, 2010 7:16 am

    I don’t have a problem with local kids choosing mainland schools.
    I wish them well, just not when they play UH.

    If Hawaii would win more championships
    that might make them regret they left and future children of Hawaii might stay home and play for UH

  35. Pomai July 9, 2010 7:19 am

    Mav dat depends on which side of da map you stay looking at??? LOL

  36. Slugger July 9, 2010 7:20 am

    Good morning!

    I want to win a championship.

    At practice, you can hear someone yelling, “The face of UH football!” Dat you, Vaughn? 😛

  37. haka July 9, 2010 7:28 am

    As much as I wish all local athletes well wherever they play, there is nothing like having local athletes, especially the upper tier studs, stay and play for the home team. Retaining the cream of the crop means so much that it really stings when they help put another state or city’s name up in lights when their impact could mean so much more to the people of Hawaii.

    Hawaii faces such an uphill battle for respectability due to our unique geographic and economic circumstances that retaining its top people resources is a must if we are to get to the highest level in any field.

    From a purely local sports perspective, one can only dream of the day when ALL the top local studs get together and collectively realize that the sweetest of dreams can come true when you represent the home team!

  38. mctruck July 9, 2010 7:30 am

    I demand a Championship!!!, and dats-uh-fact!!!

    and I’m sticking wit-it!!!

  39. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 7:31 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!!!

    I want to win a championship!

    BEAT USC!!!

  40. djmitcho July 9, 2010 7:34 am

    Good Morning and Happy Aloha Friday Tsaikoland!

    I want to win a championship really bad!!!

  41. mctruck July 9, 2010 7:37 am

    haka, ur#37…..sorta like Lebron seeing the need to gravitate to miami to play with WADE and Bosh….now they have a very good chance to win a championship together.

    All it takes is if a couple two/three of our top local boys putting their heads together because there are possibilities and boom!!!, maybe, just maybe, things like that changes the whole complextion of the team to boot.

  42. Bulla July 9, 2010 7:37 am

    #37 haka,

    i agree

  43. Bulla July 9, 2010 7:38 am


    you’re right, it has to start somewhere, and just maybe, maybe….this could be the beginning? i am just throwing that out on the table………..

  44. LizKauai [iMac] m/ July 9, 2010 7:48 am


    LeBron is not Colt… there is but one Colt…. 😆

    But if there are to be memorials, for me it is Captain Phil. God Bless and HiHo!

  45. LizKauai [iMac] m/ July 9, 2010 7:53 am

    What’s good about Miami?

    Focal Point Dance Studio – my cousin Amanda Tae’s place – where Jeanine Mason, Jakob Karr and Billy Bell got going in dance! (So You Think You Can Dance participants over the last 3 years.)

    ok… shameless bragging off!

  46. (Jesse) James July 9, 2010 7:55 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos….Hope all have a pleasant, dry day….LOL

    ST, #13…I think d1 went to “lower campus”…also known as Farrington….MWAHAHAHAHAHA

    I agree it would be great for the local kids to stay home and play and with increased costs of college and the college life, they may start to do that. But I don’t fault them for going if they do. As I’ve said before, many of the people I know who went to mainland schools be it for football or otherwise did it more to get away from Hawaii and live on their own for a while. They wanted to be independent. I know at Damien, we were constantly being told to go to mainland schools and seize the opportunity to experience life outside of Hawaii before returning home. Friends of mine who went to Punahou, Iolani, Mid Pac, Sacred Hearts, St. Francis, and Maryknoll were all told the same thing…or something similar.

    As a result, probably 80 percent or more of the 98 percent of my class that went to college did so on the mainland. Not sure how to stop that from happening or if we even should try.

  47. haka July 9, 2010 7:57 am

    Bulla, McTruck,
    We probably all have been dreaming for just that, for a long, long time. Every year we look at the graduating class and hope and just pray that the “blue chip” recruits all pick Hawaii. The impact would immense! Elephant! Bumbucha! Volcanic! Dreams can come true!

  48. Slugger July 9, 2010 7:59 am


    Different Mow family then. That wasn’t my mom who was in the shop yesterday; it was someone else’s mom. Sorry. My Mom was bowling.

  49. BIGWAVE96744 July 9, 2010 8:01 am

    Kimo Von Oelhoffen -> Molokai HS -> UH -> JC -> Boise ST (then DIAA) -> NFL

  50. Bulla July 9, 2010 8:02 am


    it’s the classic paradigm shift….not the pair of nickels, but a paradigm shift.

    perceived value is greater than investment cost; what package are they being presented and what package is getting delivered.

    a good scenario to put on the table is the amount of players getting an opportunity at the next level, and also the increased academic improvement the football team is experiencing.

    one day, one day, one day…………we shall see…………

  51. BIGWAVE96744 July 9, 2010 8:06 am

    BUT the most LaBron like was former Kailua HS OL Joseph Hauoli Wong who left UH for….. BYU.. then played years in the NFL.. But remember he left after Wags got fired & the team was really down.. I THINK George Ornellas also quit after the 95 season

  52. RedZone July 9, 2010 8:15 am

    Joe Wong – UH – BYU – NFL

  53. haka July 9, 2010 8:15 am

    I am with you Bulla! I am with you!

    When you play for Hawaii you play for so much more. You play for the people. You play for an entire state. Everything is more emotionally charged because of the cultural representation that is involved. In Hawaii, pride is the tears that flow on an exchange of breath…it’s Aloha. As you say, one day…

  54. orioles4eva July 9, 2010 8:19 am

    I want to win a championship.

  55. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 8:22 am

    Equatorial Pacific? Hawaii is of course north of the equator, but not by much. We could also be described as being tropical.

  56. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 8:23 am

    LeBron’s first response when asked where he was going to play was “South Beach” so I thought it was Ala Moana or Waikiki but it could also be Ewa Beach.

  57. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 8:26 am

    I want to win a championship. Pot Belly = “I want my daddy’s records.” Sanford & Son.

  58. islandgirl July 9, 2010 8:29 am

    Good morning! I want to win a championship!!!

  59. al July 9, 2010 8:30 am

    I want to win a championship.

  60. PONO July 9, 2010 8:31 am

    I want to win a championship

  61. omilu July 9, 2010 8:34 am

    I want to win a championship

  62. Sats July 9, 2010 8:36 am

    I want to win a championship.

  63. Manoa Mist July 9, 2010 8:36 am

    Men have died on the battlefield so that people have the freedom to go wherever they want to go and do whatever they want to do in America and that includes wherever they may want to play college or pro ball.
    The problem with LBJ is that he hyped the process to an incredible level, asked for a national television audience for “The Decision” and then stuck it to Cleveland after stringing them along for months and after all the previous BS about being an Akron guy and bringing a championship to Ohio.
    That is heartless.
    Colt turned down cold hard cash to bring a title and national exposure to Hawaii.
    That is heart.

  64. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 8:37 am

    It’d be nice if we could keep all the best kids here to play, but at the end of the day, its about opportunity.

    If a player’s goals in education are better served at a mainland school, its hard to fault him for going away.

    Don’t get me wrong. I’d love it if all of the good ones or at least a vast majority of them stayed home.

    And what about our athletes who leave school early to play in the NFL? Can we blame them?

  65. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 8:38 am

    can we compare the lebron thing with JJ leaving? resurrecting a program, bringing it to previous unknown heights and then gone. talks about loyalty, love for the area, etc? sure there were different reasons for the departures, but we were hurt just as cleveland is feeling now. mixed emotions. thanks for the memories, but why’d you have to leave?

  66. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 8:42 am

    If we really wanted to be technical about LeBron and the “South Beach” thing he could have been talking about South Point in Ka’u on the Big Island. As US beaches go, you can’t get any more southern.

    What would he do there? Pick opihi?

  67. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 8:45 am

    Great points c_c! Excellent analogy!

    The JJ thing was like leaving the bride at the altar because you didn’t like her father. (The Fumbler)

  68. ezhawaiian July 9, 2010 8:47 am


  69. Petey July 9, 2010 8:48 am

    I want to win a championship.

  70. ezhawaiian July 9, 2010 8:49 am

    anyone hear about an Inflatable warrior coming out in August? Dunno if it’s an official UH Warrior, but i think it’s a traditional one….saw pictures….looks pretty darn good! any thoughts? GO WARRIORS!

  71. Franny July 9, 2010 8:50 am

    I want to win a championship.

  72. d1島 July 9, 2010 8:50 am


    Thanks for clarifying the alma mater….I think! 😉

    I know at Damien, we were constantly being told to go to mainland schools and seize the opportunity to experience life outside of Hawaii before returning home.

    As I hear more stories from parents of recent HS grads talk about how their kids are “counseled” it seems that a large element of the emphasis on going to schools on the mainland seems to be creating an impressive list for the high school’s brochure.

    Being able to show incoming parents that graduates are going to Ivy League, major East Coast, celebrated Pac-10 and well-known Midwest colleges helps to improve the chances for the Admissions Director or, at least, helps to keep up with other secondary schools in a very competitive market in this tough economy.

  73. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 8:53 am

    I want to win a championship.

  74. Garret July 9, 2010 8:55 am

    chawan_cut and DPK,

    I disagree that it is a good analogy for the following reasons:

    Did Cleveland wait until the last minute to offer James a contract? No, they offered the maximum amount possible on the first day possible.

    Did James offer to take *less* money to sign an extension? No, but UH turned down JJ’s offer to reduce his salary.

    I can go on and on, but the 2 reasons above make the Cleveland situation NOTHING like UH’s situation with JJ.

  75. ezhawaiian July 9, 2010 8:58 am

    UH blew it by letting June Jones walk!!!! and should have gotten norm chow as the coach IF jones walked!! just MY opinion! GO WARRIORS!

  76. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 9:00 am

    I hate to disagree with a rocket scientist, but JJ’s beef was with the Fumbler, not the people of Hawaii. And the people of Hawaii suffered. That’s my point.

    In all honesty its hard to fault JJ for his decision.

  77. ezhawaiian July 9, 2010 9:04 am

    UH screwed up JJ’s departure!! If Donovan was the AD at the time, he probably would have signed a long term contract!!! now….we start at the bottom again…and work our way up!!

  78. Tunaluvr July 9, 2010 9:07 am

    I want to win a championship

  79. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 9:11 am

    It also depends on the field of interest. One of my kids wants to be a paleoanthropologist. Where will she find the best overall education in that particular field?
    Most student athletes are a cut above when it comes to physical attributes and/or athletic prowess, and their dreams usually consist of performing at the uppermost levels of their respective sports, at some point in their lives. To achieve that goal, they seek a school that will best groom them for the next level.
    There is a huge misconception when it comes to UH. We have many great examples to prove this point… the newest being Brashton Satele. We don’t get the amount of draft picks we should, just because we’re Hawaii. But yet, coaches around the country end up amazed by the young men they get from UH. Go figure. This culture is fed by the so-called experts of the big conferences and the media… plain and simple. We just have to overachieve every year to gain recognition.

  80. biggestuhfan July 9, 2010 9:14 am

    I want to win a championship

  81. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 9:15 am

    that’s true, we did have the extra HF factor that didn’t handle the whole contract thing and overall situation too well.
    i was thinking more the mixed emotions on the fans side. some of us are still not sure what to feel about JJ.
    right now most of cleveland is still in the anger and why oh why did he leave mode. will they ever get to the point of realizing what lebron had done for their team and thank him for 7 years of good times? or will he be forever scorned like modell?

  82. Garret July 9, 2010 9:15 am


    The only person who was negotiating with JJ was HF until the very end when it was too late. It is UH’s fault that HF was allowed to let things slide and you can blame Pres. McClain and the Board of Regents, among others, for messing up. Those people ARE UH in this matter. They represented the people of Hawaii and the people of Hawaii were paying them to represent them to JJ.

    Some people in power only woke up after JJ left. Others did not wake up until UH was almost left behind in conference realignment a month or so ago. At least they are awake now.

    The Ching Foundation would not have donated without the publicity of his leaving, so at least that and HF leaving are positives.

  83. RedZone July 9, 2010 9:16 am

    I saw dinosaurs at Peal Ridge. I was walking pass a couple of small ones and they started screaming. I almost had a heart attack.

  84. RedZone July 9, 2010 9:17 am

    peal = pearl

  85. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 9:17 am

    can’t blame JJ for leaving too. and i do thank him for where we are right now.
    (i still can’t believe someone would hire HF after all that he didn’t do. i guess thats what connections and networking and friends in high places get you.)

  86. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 9:20 am

    Garret –

    Everybody who counted in the JJ matter just sat on their hands when things were most critical.

    I wish we could have seen a little more leadership from our elected officials at the time. Could you imagine the same scenario if John Burns had been Governor?

  87. Kazz July 9, 2010 9:21 am

    Would it be different for UH fans if a Hawaii-raised player plays two years for the Warriors, then decides to transfer because he wants to go a team with a better chance to go to a BCS game?

    The resentment would be bad and at the college level it’s different than the pro level.

    Would it be worse if Kanani Danielson transferred to Penn State?

    Would it be worse if Kelly Majam, Jessica Iwata, or Kaia Parnaby transferred to UCLA?

    Would it be worse if Jonas Umlauft transferred to Stanford?

    Would it be worse if Kolten Wong transferred to ASU?

  88. ezhawaiian July 9, 2010 9:22 am

    i say mcmackin doesn’t get to a bowl in the next 2 years….HE’S GONE!

  89. tommui July 9, 2010 9:23 am

    Good morning Hawaii!

    I have to confess that AL and I seem to have a game going on – nom de guerre sort of thing.

    Hobes Malmsbury is Thomas Hobbes of Malmsbury, a really reactionary philosopher England – the King is always right etc. – So names like The Piper’s Son, Watch Godiva all have Tom involved in the name. (Hobes is Old English).

    I want to win a championship

  90. HiFlyer July 9, 2010 9:24 am

    Good morning.

    I want to win a championship.

  91. Kazz July 9, 2010 9:24 am

    I want to win a championship.

  92. Garret July 9, 2010 9:24 am


    James hyped his leaving on ESPN after tormenting Cleveland fans about his leaving. He deserves no sympathy in my book.

    JJ had his team go 12-0 while HF was messing up on his contract. ST mentioned how UH’s buyout clause meant that JJ basically coached the 2007 season for free. JJ earned much less than Mack and JJ subsidized many things at UH while also having donors cover half his salary. Fans that cannot get over it and blame JJ for UH’s failure are spending time and energy that doesn’t help UH…and if they are just blaming JJ then they aren’t focusing the energy on how to solve UH’s problems.

    We have to acknowledge past problems to be able to deal with them. Sweeping things under the rug or forgetting them will NOT help UH. I’m glad that my meeting in an hour may be a big help to UH, but that meeting would never have been possible if people were just focused on JJ and did not understand the major systemic problems at UH *that have still not been fixed*.

  93. tommui July 9, 2010 9:29 am

    D2 or DKK would be a good pseudonym but no Tom is associated with those – except at CCs with D1 and DPK!

  94. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 9:30 am

    We could just call ourselves… “Central Pacific” after all we have our own time zone.. Not many teams can clam that.

    I want to win a championship.

  95. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 9:33 am


    When you are feeling a little dour, you could always come on as Cracked Seed… Maybe the association with “Tom” isn’t there but there’s always the Li Hing side of things.

  96. Pomai July 9, 2010 9:37 am

    Da Punchbowl Kid:
    July 9th, 2010 at 8:45 am
    Great points c_c! Excellent analogy!

    The JJ thing was like leaving the bride at the altar because you didn’t like her father. (The Fumbler)

    Sorry DPK your wrong, the problem was that the father was screwing the groom.

  97. cheepono July 9, 2010 9:40 am

    I want to win a championship.

  98. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 9:40 am

    Before JJ’s final year, he openly said that contract negotiations was in progress and he needed it done before the season started as he will not negotiate during the season. Right after the season’s Sugar Bowl, he signs with SMU. His marketability grew because of the publicity of that amazing season. If not SMU, with its huge booster club, then it could have been some where else. We were warned. Again, we had the signals with all that was NOT done for the football program ala the soap issue, etc.. I guess the Fumbler and whoever blew that one big time. JJ, while a lot of fans and the UH miss him, has been pau for 2, going on 3 years now yet we still fretting over him. Let us look forward to Coach Mac’s upcoming season, be positive with the program and support them.

  99. Randy F July 9, 2010 9:44 am

    Just think if most the the local football high school players stayed home, UH would probably be in the BCS picture and winning WAC championships and also be considered for membership in other conferences. We would be the winners rather than Utah or Boise State.

    Oh yes:
    “I want to win a championship.”

  100. Hilo-Warrior July 9, 2010 9:48 am

    I want to win a championship.

    When does fall camp open up? I probably missed the announcement of camp. But I figure early August sometime.

  101. Pomai July 9, 2010 9:48 am

    First let me say JJ is number one in my book. papajoe2 I think the reason a lot of fans are still fretting over his leaving is that IMHO he had us on the first step of the next level that all of us had been screaming for for the last 20 years. Again IMHO had he stayed we would be well into the next level and it would have been UH that the other conferences would have been going after to join them. I truly believe that he would have had us in the top 25 consistently.

    But as people say that’s all water under the bridge, but still I fret.

  102. walter July 9, 2010 9:50 am

    suffers from low self-esteem – I want to win a championship!

  103. AlaWai July 9, 2010 9:51 am

    I want to win a championship.

  104. haka July 9, 2010 9:52 am

    No huhu!
    No plikia!

    One Snap & Clear!
    Go Warriors 2010!

  105. haka July 9, 2010 9:52 am


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  108. HawaiianTime July 9, 2010 9:54 am

    I’m rooting for David Graves and 4yrs of Colt like success. The boy/young man has wheels, let’s hope he’s a 65% accuracy or better passer. Go Warriors.

  109. Pride. July 9, 2010 9:55 am


    July 9th, 2010 at 9:50 am
    suffers from low self-esteem – I want to win a championship!

    Believe me I know what low self-esteem is. Plus no respect. I wouldn’t mind winning a championship, but I don’t think that I can. I’m not sure if I’m good enough to compete.

  110. Kazz July 9, 2010 9:58 am

    One slap and tear.

  111. tommui July 9, 2010 9:58 am

    MADEINHAWAII: re: #95. Interesting thought. If I used cukr švestka, it might really get AL going!

  112. haka July 9, 2010 9:58 am

    Pride you using dat psychological reverse mortage ting again eh?

  113. haka July 9, 2010 9:59 am


  114. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 10:07 am

    yeah, i don’t agree with the circus that Lebron caused in conjuction with ESPN (which they always overdo anyways). he didn’t have to do that. he wanted the attention and the world to be focused on him. he got soo many teams and their fans to put so much hope that he just might choose them that he’s created more enemies than fans. it’ll be interesting in the east next year. they’ve watched the west fight it out, but now there’s a shift and with all this drama in the offseason, it could get interesting on that side of the Mississippi again.
    i’m glad things got shaken up here and people woke up to realize how it was down there. i’m happy we have JD and Hinshaw and the right people that want to make it all move in the right direction and make things happen.
    but yes, papajoe2, we are here in the present. we shouldn’t dwell on the past. we are 55 or so days out from what’s in front of us. from what the players are showing in the voluntary work outs, they see the opportunity that’s staring at them. the goliath that will be toppled, come sept 2nd.

  115. Pride. July 9, 2010 10:08 am

    Ah Haka, I no tink I qualify for one reverse mortgage. I don’t even know how to spell mortgage. But I one smaht guy though, I do know dat da mortgage rate stay low. Auwe, I wonder if da mortgage rate is low, then that means dat the reverse mortgage rate is high? Hmmm, let me ponder.

  116. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:14 am

    JJ may have coached 2007 for free, but he also recruited like it as well. putting all his chips on tyler graunke and 2 QB recruits that never showed up (because he left), along with never hiring a real o-line coach so that he could keep his friends on staff really set us back, and it has had long-term effects that spanned several seasons (and we are still feeling the effects). he could have also announced earlier in the process that he was leaving so that we could have started looking for a replacement a little sooner. but instead, he waited until AFTER the bowl game – perhaps he would not have left had we won? while he deserves a lot of credit for the success he had here, he’s also done a lot of things that could have been done differently.

    my biggest gripe about the guy is that as much as he loved building a winner, he never seemed interested in maintaining a winner. either it was boring to him, or he didn’t like the criticism that comes with being the coach of a team expected to win (you can do no wrong when you are rebuilding a team. see: SMU 2008-2009, UH 1999). Here’s a quick breakdown of the JJ era:

    1999 – no expectations coming off of an 0-12 season. exceeds everyone’s expectations, becomes the hero of hawaii. can’t do no wrong.
    2000 – reality sets in and we have a losing season. things are still alright, though…
    2001 – jj nearly dies in an accident, but survives. this overshadows football and gives the season a magical feel to it. again, expectations are lifted and the team does very well.
    2002-2004 – timmy chang takes over as the full-time starter… sorta. the quest for the passing record overshadows everything (including winning, some would say). once the monkey was off his back midway through the 2004 season, the team starts playing well again and wins out to qualify for a bowl berth. we even go for 2 seasons without a real DC because JJ wants to hire his buddies. on top of that, instead of naming rich miano DC he makes him share the DC duties with george lumpkin just to not step on the toes of the elder coach. JJ starts talking about leaving, until…
    2005 – jerry glanville and june jones mend the fences and glanville joins the staff, giving us a real DC for the first time since lempa left after the 2002 season. having a new friend around keeps jj motivated to coach here. injuries and circumstance allow for the season to be for a ton of underclassmen (colt, db, rgm, sol, adam leonard, etc) to get lots of experience with (wait for it…) no expectations! even though coach cav leaves, people are cautiously optimistic…
    2006 – even though cav was never really replaced, the o-line has enough experience to coach itself and they continue to play at a high level. the offense hums like never seen, and produces numbers we’ll never see again (not even in 2007). we finish just a few points away from going undefeated. could we ever top 2006? probably not… JJ start thinking about leaving again…
    2007 – until Colt Brennan decides not to enter the NFL draft (and gives up being a 1st round pick and the millions that come with it. how JJ let him stay is beyond me). though expectations are high, the magic of colt sacrificing to stay another season combined with the weak schedule and the return of mcmackin’s defense allow the team to reach it’s “destiny” – a BCS bowl berth, in spite of very shaky offensive o-line play. somehow, the team manages to win games in incredible ways – overcoming huge defecits, last second FGs, etc., which only help to enhance the “magical season” vibe that was going on. everyone, including JJ, must have felt like they were a team of destiny and that they could not lose, because there were a lot of comments from people who travelled with the team to new orleans that the team wasn’t really practicing hard and they seemed to be taking things very lightly. personally, i saw players out very late at night in the nights leading up to the game. either way, the team seemed like they didn’t need to prepare very much and it showed on the field and we were blasted with a dose of reality. on national tv, no less. there were a lot of questions for jj to answer, but he left town on his harley before ever having to answer any of them.

    there was money, promises from the school and the government, and the most realistic chance ever to take UH to the next level as a football program on the table, but he walked away from it all to go somewhere where the expectations were low again and where he could be the unquestioned hero. and because of the way he left – with herman frazier being the bad guy, he got to be the hero in two towns at once. he never had to answer for anything we heard about what happened before and during the sugar bowl. he left us for another girl, and we patted him on the back for it. things could have been done differently.

  117. Gus Henderson July 9, 2010 10:16 am

    Little birdie says that NFL teams are interested in Dave Aranda’s. Birdie says Aranda will be in the NFL in about two to three years. Shot birdie with taser gun. Pulled the wrong gun. Birdie lived a good life.

  118. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:18 am

    unmentioned throughout all of this is the pissing match between HF and JJ. JJ was too proud of a man to go public about his problems with HF (though he did privately, all the time). HF wanted to prove that he was the man in charge. personally, i don’t think HF ever really wanted to re-sign JJ as he didn’t like having one of his employees be more powerful than he was. i think his plan was to let JJ’s contract expire and then blame it on JJ for not wanting to accept their offer. the plan bit him in the butt as he got fired for not keeping JJ under contract.

  119. Pride. July 9, 2010 10:20 am

    Why would the NFL be interested in Aranda? Didn’t he just start coaching?

  120. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:22 am

    on players going away for college:

    having some of our young athletes go away for school is beneficial to our local society, for those who come back bring back their knowledge and experiences and blend them with the knowledge and experiences of those who did stay here for school. there’s more to life than football, unfortunately.

  121. tommui July 9, 2010 10:22 am

    When people ask me about the UH law school, I usually tell them that if we ship the students to the Mainland, buy them books, pay their tution, purchase a condo for them to live in, the State would be better off financially and the students would get a better view of the world, rather than just being limited.

    For whatever reason (selfish, I admit), the local football players should play for and in Hawaii. Only exception is for Ivy League/small Ivy/Northwestern.
    Maybe Stanford. The UH can stand up academically with other schools.

    I also think it is bogus when someone says “we are playing for Hawaii” when they go to BYU, Notre Dame or other schools.

    Double standard? Probably but when it comes to professional schools like law, you got to get a more universal outlook. Not so much for med schools.

    And yes, if you want to be an cultural anthropology major, that is a different story.

  122. Ralph July 9, 2010 10:23 am

    I want to win a championship

    Papajoe2 people like me fret over JJ because our record over the last 2 seasons is 13-14, we are not getting closer to the next level, and we haven’t won the WAC. UH is picked anywhere from 5th to 8th in this year’s preseason picks.

  123. Kazz July 9, 2010 10:28 am

    I agree with Mr. Mui.

  124. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 10:30 am

    Ralph, I agree with you on the mediocre record thing. I just think we should be positive until after this season is over. If they have another mediocre season, then I’ll be asking for Mac’s buyout, but I no moa money to help. The season is coming upon us, so we have to make the best of it and try to enjoy it. I know you are not happy with the results with Mac at the helm. but I know you will be cheering on the Warriors just as most of us will. Enjoy the season. Imua Warriors.

  125. Paka July 9, 2010 10:31 am

    Hawaii is in the middle of the Pacific.

    As for JJ leaving for SMU. It wasn’t about the money, although we all get paid a lot more than when we were at UH. It wasn’t just HF. And it sure wasn’t the State of Hawaii, which we all still love and miss, me most of all since I’m from Hawaii and am a Native Hawaiian.

    It was just very difficult to work for the University of Hawaii. The lack of soap in the showers was just the tip of the iceberg. The apathy of the school made even the most mundane tasks a hassle to accomplish.
    We face some of the same problems at SMU today.

    The allure was more a chance to turn a hopeless program around. It was obvious that nothing would change at UH if JJ stayed. JJ is a man of vision, and it’s hard for a guy like him to not see any change forthcoming.

    That’s my take on the situation, but what do I know. I just work for him.

  126. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:32 am

    but regardless of major, if there’s a kid from an economically depressed area and he has a chance to go to somewhere like Penn St. and he actually wants to go to somewhere like Penn St. and he wouldn’t otherwise had the chance to go if not for football, he should go. even if his major is liberal arts. well, that’s my opinion.

  127. WR UNIVERSITY July 9, 2010 10:33 am

    I want to be a winner

  128. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:34 am

    If JJ had stayed, he probably would have landed Kevin Craft, and he probably would have convinced Ryan Grice-Mullins to stay in school.
    But he wasn’t going to stay as long as the AD was in place.

  129. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:36 am

    he would have gotten Craft and Bo Levi Mitchell would have come here. The QB debacle of 2008 would never have happened. a lot of things would have been different.

    but he wasn’t going to stay as long as HF was here, and HF wasn’t going to get fired unless JJ left. there was no way for things to work out.

  130. Kazz July 9, 2010 10:37 am

    Kevin Craft… hmm.. A lot of good he did for UCLA… No thanks.

  131. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:39 am

    As for LeBron, it would have been better if he didn’t just emphasize that he wanted to win a championship. Yes, he does play for himself, as does every athlete. But cities feel there’s an entitlement, too, because in some form they are paying the salaries. But back to the point: LeBron should have said he wanted to win a championship for South Florida. Sounds a little too selfish, even if true, to imply he just wants to win a championship for himself and his legacy. That might be honest, but it doesn’t sell T-shirts, and it certainly doesn’t put Cleveland in a forgiving mood.

  132. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 9, 2010 10:43 am

    I want the Warriors to win a championship.

    As for me, I already have my horseshoe championship with my partner koakane.

  133. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:43 am

    It was because of JJ’s influence that Colt spoke out about the conditions at UH. Colt never meant any malice. Colt’s point was this: If the Warriors can do well without resources, how much better would they be if they had resources.
    Instead, the administration downplayed Colt’s suggestions — the next day they were refilling the soap dispensers — and basically defended the status quo. At that point, JJ knew he would be going.

  134. aaronavilla July 9, 2010 10:44 am

    UCLA is a totally different situation and different offense. it is impossible to tell if he would have done good or bad here. either way, it would have given us another option and maybe we wouldn’t have had to bring in last minute replacements like greg alexander (i like the guy, though).

  135. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 9, 2010 10:46 am

    Hmmm, I wonder if my Lebron toy sports figure went up in price? Time to check ebay.

  136. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:46 am

    How much time is the team spending on RedZone offense in the uw’s?

  137. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:48 am


    Probably Alexander and Rausch never woulda landed here…maybe a couple of OT’s instead?

  138. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:49 am

    This is my lowly opinion, but what I think UH needed to do was to allow the athletic department to bring in Keith Amemiya as an associate AD. Amemiya would have helped as a fund-raiser but, more importantly, he has connections to work with both businesses and politicians. Honolulu is still one of the most political cities, and if you don’t have somebody working the back rooms, little will change.

  139. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:50 am


    Check your MSG stocks while you at it. I heard that they still taking a beating since LBJ passed on NYNY as well….

  140. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:51 am

    UH closes every 11-on-11 session with red-zone drills.

  141. Paka July 9, 2010 10:51 am

    As for recruiting, we recruited the best players that fit our system. If you think recruiting was bad with us, then it hasn’t changed because some of the same coaches that recruited for us is still on the staff. We recruited some really good players. Just look at some of the guys playing in the NFL as proof. With the QB position, about 100 teams in the country wishes they can have an all-american back there. You hit and miss on some of them, but you coach up and stick with the players you have. We won with guys that we had. Maybe other coaches wouldn’t have won with the same players. But we recruited our tails off. Don’t believe the hype that we didn’t.

  142. LizKauai m/ July 9, 2010 10:51 am

    Go, Garret- good luck with your meeting!


  143. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 10:52 am

    I imagine most of the red-zone problems will have to be addressed in training camp, when the players can wear pads.

  144. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:52 am


    Wouldn’t it be easier for KA to get an appointment with his new title instead of ADA?

  145. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:53 am

    Thanks for the RedZone info…

  146. SteveM July 9, 2010 10:53 am

    Good morning everyone!

    I want to win a championship.

  147. LizKauai m/ July 9, 2010 10:54 am

    Star-AD powers that be:
    MAHALO for making BREAKING NEWS more easily viewed on the home page. That is what online newspapers are for… at least for me…


  148. d1島 July 9, 2010 10:55 am


    As always, it’s good to get your perspective.

    btw, is it hard to keep saying, “Pony Up!” without having visions of Pa’u riders go thru your head? 😆

  149. Paka July 9, 2010 11:00 am


    Pony up is more a booster term for everybody to Pony Up the cash. What I have enjoyed with regards to coming here, is that we were able to instill our Hawaiian values on these mainland kids, and they have bought into it. The team believes in ohana.

    But this site is more about the Hawaii Warriors so I don’t like talking about SMU much. But I like that me and my teammate Adrian Klemm was able to connect with the players here by telling them our experiences at UH.

    I agree with the Pa’u riders. Dallas isn’t exactly Paniolo country.

  150. haroldwah July 9, 2010 11:03 am

    What I wonder is how we would have done if Greg Alexander did’nt get hurt. I think its safe to say we would have been playing SMU in the Sheraton Bowl. Bottom line we have to support the coach and players we have now. It’s great to speculate but what does that accomplish.

  151. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 11:04 am

    #138… ST…
    Actually, to this day, I am still amazed that Keith Amemiya isn’t on board. And each day that goes by, we fall farther and farther behind!

  152. Kazz July 9, 2010 11:06 am

    Keith Amemiya would have been a great addition or replacement in a lot of positions at AKA and the athletic department.

    I’m practicing biting my tongue as hard as I can and I’ll just leave it at that.

  153. Addahknowsports© July 9, 2010 11:07 am

    Morning All!


  154. SteveM July 9, 2010 11:09 am

    Paka — thank you for sharing your insights. I appreciate them very much… as does everyone who watched events unfold here on The Warrior Beat during and after the 2007 season.

  155. Wahine_Fan July 9, 2010 11:11 am

    I want to win a championship.

  156. Kazz July 9, 2010 11:16 am

    I think the season and career ending injury to Greg Alexander was one of the more significant injuries the UH football program has ever dealt with but it also kind of fell under the radar of a lot of fans as compared to other previous injuries that didn’t have as much of an impact on the season.

    Granted the Warriors weren’t fighting for an undefeated season, but a WAC title and bowl game were goals in mind and the loss of a starting QB is huge.

    If Alexander wasn’t hurt we would have had at least two more victories last season.

  157. RedZone July 9, 2010 11:22 am

    i thought the biggest loss was Satele.

  158. Slugger July 9, 2010 11:24 am

    I want to win a championship.

    #138 ~ Brilliant suggestion.

  159. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 11:25 am

    Speaking of Rausch –

    I saw him last month at Walmart. We chatted for a bit, and repeated several times that all he wants is a chance to get on the field and show what he’s got. Super nice guy. I’d love to see him get some game reps at some point.

  160. tkd2frek1 July 9, 2010 11:27 am

    I want to win a championship.

  161. Pride. July 9, 2010 11:28 am


    July 9th, 2010 at 11:16 am
    I think the season and career ending injury to Greg Alexander was one of the more significant injuries the UH football program has ever dealt with but it also kind of fell under the radar of a lot of fans as compared to other previous injuries that didn’t have as much of an impact on the season.

    Granted the Warriors weren’t fighting for an undefeated season, but a WAC title and bowl game were goals in mind and the loss of a starting QB is huge.

    If Alexander wasn’t hurt we would have had at least two more victories last season.

    Injuries are always part of the game. But last year’s season ending injuries to five impact players was very unusual. First Brashton Satele, then Aaron Brown, then Greg Aexander. Of course there was also Rodney Bradley, and then Pepa Letuli. Those were five impact players that we were without for large portions on the season. The UNLV, Idaho, and Nevada games may have played out differently, had we had two out of the five guys that were injured.

  162. Pride. July 9, 2010 11:29 am

    I believe that Aaron Brown and Rodney Bradley are big play type of guys.

  163. Paka July 9, 2010 11:29 am

    I agree that injuries were a factor in some of the losses this year. But you earn your paycheck as a coach by getting your back-ups ready to play just in case.

    This has happened on 3 different occasions since I’ve been with JJ and all three season were record setting ones. The 2001 season when Timmy went down and Rolo took over, The 2007 Sugar Bowl season, when Tyler had to win, I think 3-4 games for us(one a crucial one on the road in Reno), and this past year at SMU when Kyle Padron took over mid-season during the toughest part of our schedule.

    Injuries are an unfortunate part of the game, but you still have to play(and are expected to win) regardless.

  164. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 11:30 am

    I still think we need to wait till 2011 to really see if Coach Mack’s approach for the Warriors is what will take us to where we want to be. After this season, most of the players will be his recruits — many will have game time experience. The team will be stacked in favor of his vision of how a teams should be. Every football head coach deserves at least 4 years to show what they have to offer.

    When you can only recruit 20 – 25 per season and you need to fill in holes with no depth, you really are limited as to what you can do in the area of recruiting during the first two years. We are a mid-major. We get 3-stars and unproven at best in most recruiting years. As such, we need depth in every position to compensate for any lack of size and or athleticism. If Mack and Company are moving in that direction, and it seems that is the case, it will take another two seasons of recruiting to get that depth.

    That also means that some blue-chippers may not get the “love” that many might expect. Especially if they don’t fill the voids as demanded by the roster.

    BUT.. that doesn’t mean I expect mediocrity this season. Not at all. This is a doable season. USC is in turmoil, Colorado and Army don’t have the toughest of teams. We may have an inexperienced O-line, but that also means that they are very trainable and open to coaching. We have QB depth. We have Wide Out, Slot, and RB depth. We should be able to score often enough to win more than 50% of our games.

    On Defense, our returnees look to be stronger and hungrier than ever. We have solid leaders and some players that look like they might make an impact in their first year. We will have surprises this year… Unexpected performances by some new faces that may be enough to make some of our opponents fumble through their play books.

    I’m excited and yeah…

    I want to win a championship.

  165. BleedGreen808 July 9, 2010 11:31 am

    Good morning to everyone!

    South America is used to refer to Mexico and below.

    South Pacific sounds much more appealing than North Pacific.

    Didn’t Tyson Alualu play for UH before transferring to Cal or was that another Alualu?

  166. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 11:32 am

    and he*

  167. […] Original post by Stephen Tsai […]

  168. GRM July 9, 2010 11:33 am

    I want to win a championship.

  169. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 11:34 am

    Paka –

    No worries. We still got mad love for JJ and the things you guys did for Hawaii.

  170. ai-eee-soos July 9, 2010 11:34 am

    Speaking of Rausch –

    ST & DPK:

    I always felt that if Brent put on some weight, he would be able to throw

    “much stronger”.

    Q: Has he put on some weight? Does his arms/shoulder look stronger?

    He “won” the starting job 3 years ago; and I was hoping that he could break the starting

    line up again.

  171. roysan16 July 9, 2010 11:35 am

    Yesterday I saw a checklist of the things the Warriors needed to work on during the off season. Working in the red zone was one of them. Improving on the turnover battle was another.

    My question to someone in the know is how does a team improve on it’s third quarter scoring. Last year the Warriors were anemic in the third quarter, having only been able to score 26 points in thirteen games.

    Are the players coming out of intermission cold? Flat? Uninspired? Tired? Tight? Unconditioned?

    For the coming year, hopefully, the Warrior brain trust finds a solution to this problem. UH can’t spot it’s opponents the third quarter and expect to win.

    From what I’m seeing so far in the off season Coach Mack has been approaching in improving the team with diagnostic type of thinking, included should also be examining on improving the scoring productivity in the third quarter.

  172. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 11:36 am

    Pride –

    Don’t kid yourself, you’re a winner. Everybody knows that.

    Did you figger out that reverse mortgage thing? 😆

  173. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 11:38 am


    Looking at Rausch last month, he seemed plenty tall. His frame doesn’t look like it would allow much bulk though.

  174. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 11:40 am


    The problem is, though, Mack didn’t have enough scholarships and recruiting time to fill the voids and build depth during his first year and many his second year recruits are going to play in a D-1 game for the first time this year.

    So, this is the year to judge. Injury or no injury. Next season should be the season to demand higher expectations. This season, we should hope for a WAC title but be happy with a Bowl game and Bowl Win.

    The good news is that the Warriors will have 4 games to fine tune and tweak things before starting WAC play.

  175. ╦╤─ homey ︻╦╤─ July 9, 2010 11:42 am

    Diagnostic thinking? whoooosh! Please enlighten me.

  176. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 11:42 am


    I think it was depth. I think the players were running out of gas. Hopefully that won’t be the case this season or in any other season to come

  177. GRM July 9, 2010 11:43 am

    Hawaii = Mid-Pacific

  178. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 11:44 am

    #164 sounds like me!!!

    Go, Warriors!!!

  179. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 11:46 am

    In the Hawaii Bowl, I just thought the 1st long pass that SMU’s QB threw was so thrilling to watch. Leave it to JJ to thrill us!

    I miss you, Coach!

  180. Paka July 9, 2010 11:58 am


    Mack and a lot of the coaches were on the staff for that whole 2007 season to recruit the guys for the next year. Plus the team just came off of a BCS bowl. The players on the team knew how to win, and the Sugar Bowl could be used as a recruiting tool. I don’t want to sound like I’m attacking Mack right now, because I’m not. I’m just talking as a person from a different perspective. People don’t care about all of that in the long run. As a coach, people expect you to win.

    When we came here to SMU, we had even less time to recruit, as we didn’t have contact with players all year like UH coaches did. They(UH coaches) were not a new coaching staff. Plus players here were way worse, from a different system and were accustomed to losing for 25 years. You think people gave us a free pass during that first season? Hell no! People were talking smack, saying JJ was a waste of money, and “All hat, no cattle” whatever that means. But we knew that we would win here, and in typical JJ fashioned he even stated that fact to the media. People laughed at him and joked about it until the Hawaii Bowl win when we had the last laugh.

    Bottom line. No one cares unless you win. I cheered for UH all season. All of us hoped to play them in the Hawaii Bowl. But if they don’t win, no will say they didn’t have the players to win, nor should they do so. It’s what we get paid for. Win or go home.

  181. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 12:04 pm

    #165… I thought South America was anything south of Panama? While in the Army, I had the good fortune to have served with guys from Mexico and Panama, among other places. One thing that always came up was… this Mexican guy always said he was from North America due to his hometown being on the northern area of the Baja California peninsula. He used to always point out that the southern section of Mexico is where Central America started on political maps. I remember looking it up once just to educate myself, but I never got into their discussions.

  182. Paka July 9, 2010 12:08 pm

    I believe there is technically only a North and South America. Everything South of Panama is South America. But the area from Mexico to Panama is usually referred to as Central America. Not an expert but I think this is correct. Garrett probably knows more than I do on the subject.

  183. Pomai July 9, 2010 12:09 pm

    #125 Paka:
    July 9th, 2010 at 10:31 am

    It was just very difficult to work for the University of Hawaii. The lack of soap in the showers was just the tip of the iceberg. The apathy of the school made even the most mundane tasks a hassle to accomplish.

    You ain’t kidding there. For real!!!!!!!!!!! I too am biting my tongue, and it hurts like he!!

  184. Paka July 9, 2010 12:12 pm

    I feel your pain. Us Hawaiians deserve better. But UH was a great college experience for me. Working there on the other hand, except for the games, was a different experience.

  185. Pride. July 9, 2010 12:13 pm


    July 9th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    I believe there is technically only a North and South America. Everything South of Panama is South America. But the area from Mexico to Panama is usually referred to as Central America. Not an expert but I think this is correct. Garrett probably knows more than I do on the subject.Oh don’t be so modest Paka, I heard that you are an expert guitarist and a nuclear engineer.

  186. Pride. July 9, 2010 12:15 pm

    Apathy? That’s not good. We need Pomai, Slugger, and Kazz to be on the UH payroll.

  187. Paka July 9, 2010 12:16 pm


    That’s my brother. I have no musical talents whatsoever, unless you consider singing karaoke very badly a musical talent. Both of my brothers were the smart, talented ones in the family. I was just the jock.

  188. Pride. July 9, 2010 12:16 pm


    July 9th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
    I believe there is technically only a North and South America. Everything South of Panama is South America. But the area from Mexico to Panama is usually referred to as Central America. Not an expert but I think this is correct. Garrett probably knows more than I do on the subject.

    Oh don’t be so modest Paka, I heard that you are an expert guitarist and a nuclear engineer.

  189. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 12:16 pm


    Is SMU going to use the same quarterback as last year? Is he now a sophomore? He’s terrific!

  190. haka July 9, 2010 12:17 pm

    how’s your golf game coming along? 🙂

  191. Pride. July 9, 2010 12:18 pm

    Paka, your brother is in the category of “rippa”. I watch him on Fridays at the Row bar.

  192. Bowwar July 9, 2010 12:19 pm

    I want to win a championship

  193. roysan16 July 9, 2010 12:19 pm

    Came across this on

    Some early opening lines from the Golden Nugget

    According the odds UH is a 3 pt. underdog to Fresno St. (?)

    And a 17 point underdog to Boise.(?)

    Am I reading this right?

    Wow is all I can say. What’s noteworthy is that UH are the visitors at Fresno and Boise St. Reading into the early lines the hypothesis is that the odds makers have the Warriors as a much stronger team (it seems).

  194. Paka July 9, 2010 12:20 pm

    I would say he has the upper-hand going into fall camp. But we have 3 very good QB’s on the roster. I just watched our new freshman from St. Louis, and he can throw the ball with some zip and accuracy. I don’t like talking about us much here though. Let’s stick to the Warriors.

  195. Pride. July 9, 2010 12:22 pm

    Paka sounds like, “Once a Warrior, Always a Warrior.”

  196. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 12:23 pm

    On the Leahey and Leahey Show, prior to the Hawaii Bowl, JJ praised Moniz. He liked his talent. Moniz should be proud that he got some kudos from the coach!

  197. Pomai July 9, 2010 12:23 pm

    186 Pride:

    I shall remember that when the time is right!!!!!

  198. Da Punchbowl Kid July 9, 2010 12:24 pm

    Speaking of Warriors:

    Love the article on Brashton Satele and the J-E-T-S in today’s SA. Good job Tsai!

  199. Kazz July 9, 2010 12:25 pm

    I eat apathy and crap anger.

  200. Paka July 9, 2010 12:26 pm


    My golf game is not as good as I would like. There is a place called Top Golf here where you can get lots of practice, but my schedule is really busy most of the time.


    i don’t get to see him play much as I’m rarely home. even when I worked at UH. But I heard he could play. I saw his band play when my niece graduated from Kamehameha. I’m glad he’s going back to paying the traditional Hawaiian music. I played some Peter Moon, C&K, and other Hawaiian artists in the stadium here, and the fans, although confused, really liked it.

  201. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 12:27 pm


    haha! Hawaiian music in Tesas??? Wow!

  202. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 12:27 pm


  203. Paka July 9, 2010 12:28 pm

    I was impressed by what I saw on film from Moniz as well. He looked like he maybe lacked some arm strength but he made plays. I hope the off-the-field issues don’t affect the team. That can be an x-factor.

  204. A-House July 9, 2010 12:28 pm


  205. Ralph July 9, 2010 12:29 pm

    thanks Paka! I keep stating that there are people on the WB and other forums who stated that Jones didn’t recruit, and if so, then how come he was accused of leaving the cupboard bare, because his staff must have recruited. Others said he didn’t recruit qbs for the 2008+ years, JJ not recruiting QBs, laughable, he did, unfortunately when he left the recruits moved on to other schools. Lack of depth, UH has 105 players on roster, not all of equal talent, but if you don’t give players reps to gain experience you don’t develop depth. I know, D1 told me he wants the best to play and he doesn’t want to pay to see the second string or third string play but there are times when you got to give a player some reps to rest the first stringers or when we are getting blown out. What was Mac’s response, oh, they didn’t want to come out during the blow out, “fight on, great spirit”, but tell me what athlete would want to sit out, the coach got to make the call for the team, not ask. Paka, I’m am glad that you spoke up and wrote that the current Mac staff were JJ’s staff and they did the recruiting so there shouldn’t be any cries that Mac did not have time to recruit his type of players for the r n s.

  206. Shoko July 9, 2010 12:29 pm

    Greetings gang!

    Warrior’s will win a championship!

  207. Shoko July 9, 2010 12:31 pm

    Oh wait, I screwed that mantra up. Try again…

    I want to win a championship!

  208. puuloke July 9, 2010 12:31 pm

    I want to win a championship.

    Whose practicing on the offensive side? Interesting to see which QB’s, RB’s and receivers are turning out for reps.

  209. greenthumb July 9, 2010 12:31 pm

    Good to revisit our history to see what went right and what we don’t want to repeat. 🙂

    #180 “All hat no cattle” sounds like something John Wayne would say about someone who says he is a rancher, wears the big hat but doesn’t have the gazillion heads of cattle.

  210. Paka July 9, 2010 12:32 pm

    What we learn from our past is what makes us men. Once a Warrior, always a Warrior indeed.

  211. Paka July 9, 2010 12:35 pm

    Aloha to all. Time for dinner.

  212. Curt July 9, 2010 12:36 pm


    Thanks for your insights. We appreciate it.

  213. haroldwah July 9, 2010 12:36 pm

    I really feel bad for Brent Rausch. Talk about hard luck. It would have been interesting to see what he could have done when Alexander went down.

  214. Shoko July 9, 2010 12:36 pm

    From my understanding, the expression “All hat, no cattle” means someone who talks alot, but isn’t able to back it up.

  215. Curt July 9, 2010 12:36 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  216. protector July 9, 2010 12:37 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  217. BIGWAVE96744 July 9, 2010 12:42 pm

    for non local boys, MANY have left but only few have found success… Of the few:
    Kenyotta Marshall -> UH -> Grand Valley St -> NFL (drafted by the Eagles)
    Mike Harrison -> UH -> LSU
    Korey Reynolds -> UH -> JC -> East Carolina
    Britton Forrester -> UH -> JC -> Arkansas

  218. BIGWAVE96744 July 9, 2010 12:43 pm

    btw: I want to win a championship

  219. Randy July 9, 2010 12:46 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  220. Mrs. A-House July 9, 2010 12:46 pm

    I want to win a championship!

    I want any or all of the fine athletes who choose to represent the State and residents of Hawaii to REALLY want to win a championship and commit to working hard and doing whatever it takes to do it! Dream BIG…then JUST DO IT!!

    Haka –

    Your post #37 mirrors comments that Mr.A-House would have posted. For those very reasons, the A-House Ohana hold in the highest esteem local athletes like Craig and Billy Ray Stutzmann and Timmy Chang, among many others who have unquestionably chosen to play for UH and no other school. Forgive me, but may I squeeze Colt Brennan in front of the Stutzmann brothers and Timmy in my list above as THE most revered person in our household. As far as I’m concerned, Colt-y (that’s my pet name for this sweetheart) embodies the qualities that I would expect from my own son…grandson…whatever. That makes him one of the “local” boys who by-passed a lucrative pro contract to return for his senior year at UH to lead us through our “Perfect Season” and to the Sugar Bowl. Do we dare expect a repeat? WHY NOT!

  221. BIGWAVE96744 July 9, 2010 12:49 pm

    also belated 63rd R.I.P. Anniversary to the E.T. who was FUBAR @ Area 51 on 7/8/47…. Phone Home….

  222. CHEE! July 9, 2010 12:50 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  223. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 12:54 pm

    #217 BW96744, I know there are more players who found success after transferring out of UH but one that sticks out in my mind was kicker Peter Kim who went to Alabama after UH. I’m not sure but I think he won a national championship or played in one of the bigger bowl games at that time.
    ps. Peter was the founder of a nationwide, popular Korean drive-in/resturant. Peter, if you are reading this, I will accept a free catered dinner party for all the Taikos for the publicity.

  224. Shoko July 9, 2010 12:57 pm

    I think my depth chart for QB would be Moniz, Austin and Rausch. I like a QB who can take a hit and get back up. Case in point, Moniz against Wisconsin. Bryant must have been sacked at least 7 times during the game and still managed to finish. He might have been hurting the next day, but I give him props for taking those hits.

  225. Shoko July 9, 2010 1:07 pm

    I like David Graves too. Kid looks fast and could be a dual threat.

  226. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 1:10 pm

    It’s not like UH can’t compete with the Fresno States and Boise States, it’s just that things always happen against Boise (except in 2007). It’s all about discipline. Broncos love to shift and move different personnel groups. But to paraphrase the Orlando Magic GM, you only play with one ball. Be disciplined. Make your reads. Follow the ball.

  227. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:11 pm

    #182… The CIA lists 7 countries that make up Central America.
    Prior to looking it up, my input was based on conversations through the years with soldiers who were originally born and partly raised there.
    Things change… as I am a Campbell HS grad, but those who now live where I grew up now attend Kapolei HS. When thrown into a unit with people from literally all over the US, with the occasional sprinkling of foreign-born soldiers, discussions always turn to home and everything you can imagine as topics. I was often the lone Hawaii rep, and you’d be surprised how little other Americans know about us, even to the extent of Hawaii being the 50th state!

  228. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:16 pm

    I’d still like to see what Rausch can really do. He did, after all, win the starting job for a little while, but just never got to show what he could do after that injury.
    Another that I’d like to see, who could be an energizing force, is David Graves. I could see him giving us that extra dimension to break open a game. I understand that he needs to find some patience to let the offense develop, but if we’re against too much pressure or a defense too fast off of the corner, I say give Graves a chance to do some Michael Carter stuff.

  229. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 1:18 pm

    #227 MW, while in a Alaska on a cruise, I met and Alaskan native. She asked my wife and I where were we from. Alaska, being the 49th state, i responded “from the 50th state.” Her response? ” and where is that?”

  230. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:19 pm

    #227… hahaha!

  231. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:21 pm

    You should have said “Vladivostok”!

  232. Lux Painter July 9, 2010 1:22 pm

    I want to win a championship

  233. Old Diver July 9, 2010 1:24 pm


    I hope this isn’t a stupid question. Does “Hui Kako’o Pa’ani Pohili” stand for softball champion bracelet?

  234. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:24 pm

    You know I meant #229, hahaha! It’s my arthritic keyboard again. Sometimes it just types what it wants to type. So hard head dis machine!

  235. Shoko July 9, 2010 1:26 pm

    Hehe, I remember this guy from a small ozark town in Missoura, which is the correct speling according to him, found out that I was from Hawaii and curiously asked very slowly if I spoke english. My response was, “que?”.

  236. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:28 pm

    hahaha! good one!

  237. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:32 pm

    I used to get harassed by this tall popolo guy all through basic training. After graduation, while standing in line for my last lunch on Fort Dix, New Jersey, he came up one last time, pushed me, and said something like he couldn’t believe this pineapple got through basic training. Since he was so tall, I used all the leverage I had and gave him one good gut punch. While he rolled on the ground gasping for air, I ominously stood over him and chanted the state motto. Some haole guy on the side said, “oh dang, I think that Hawaiian guy just put a curse on this here fella”.

  238. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 1:35 pm


    As a female, I would’ve complained to the officer in charge. haha. But, that’s what hubbies are for. I married mine to buss up my enemies. He’s 6’1″

  239. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 1:36 pm

    You guys need to come to the Wednesday’s workout. It starts at 7 a.m., but it usually has the largest turnout. The stars have a way of shining in these settings.

  240. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 1:38 pm


    are there bathroom facilities available to those who come to watch?

  241. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:40 pm

    #238… Gigi… It was our graduation day, and most of the drill sergeants were nowhere to be found. We were freed from the place and nearly half had already departed with family, friends, or on greyhound buses. Plus, I was about as tired and irritated as can be following a couple of months of the constant badgering by that one fool.
    The state motto was the first thing that popped into my head. I just stared at him with big, bulging eyeballs, and went into a mean-looking chant, complete with convulsing body movements. It must’ve been a sight. I’ve never had the need to repeat the performance, thankfully.

  242. Shoko July 9, 2010 1:41 pm

    Thats pretty sad that a popolo would say something derogatory especially since he probably heard his fair share of racial epithets. I bet he think twice about saying that to another local boy.

  243. rolee July 9, 2010 1:44 pm

    I want to win a championship

  244. Shoko July 9, 2010 1:46 pm

    Didn’t the WAC asked the media to issue their preseason football picks for the order of finish in the conference and offensive and defensive players of the year projections? Did you take part in that process or did Ferd give his projections?

  245. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 1:49 pm

    The irony of the whole thing, Shoko…
    They are the very ones who complain about racism and equality, and yet turn around and perpetuate it whenever they get a chance or things don’t go their way. Believe me… we have lived here for 14 years, and have heard it all. They don’t know how to class us, so they call us Chinese or Indian, and then are surprised when our english is better than theirs. LOL

    ST… there’s your “Ironic” story!

  246. NCAA July 9, 2010 1:51 pm

    Mrs. gigi-hawaii,

    Six-feet-one-inch sometimes are big for nothing. Just like the tall popolo who Mr. MichiganWarrior put a curse on.

  247. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 1:52 pm


    my cousin graduated from U of Michigan, Ann Arbor, School of Dentristy 1980s. He said it is number one among dental schools.

    He’s now a dentist in New Mexico, of all places, and doing very well.

  248. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 1:54 pm


    Not disagreeing with you, but when JJ left, so did the Dreadlocks and a few of the expectant new recruits as well? Offensively, I think the morale dropped some… maybe that got Graunke thinking he was a shoo-in and he lost focus, too. I just remember a lot of scrambling to replace the QB and receivers. LW Jackson wasn’t working out as well as we all wanted, too. Foot injuries… (dunno if that was because of the change of apparel sponsors, but it sure coincided with it too conveniently). Tons of injuries and some critical holes to fill that shifted the Recruiters’ time and emphasis from balanced recruiting to JuCi and quick fixes for Mack’s first year. Seems to me that that has to have a trickle down effect down the road.

    But, you know better than me, was there really ever a 4-5 year recruitment plan at UH?

  249. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 1:54 pm


    nobody has ever attacked my husband.

    But being 5’1″ myself, I was robbed at gun point in an elevator in New York.

  250. Kazz July 9, 2010 1:56 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    July 9th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
    You guys need to come to the Wednesday’s workout. It starts at 7 a.m., but it usually has the largest turnout. The stars have a way of shining in these settings.

    Awesome!!! I am on vacay starting next Wednesday!!!!

  251. Shoko July 9, 2010 1:56 pm

    Yep, like I tell everyone, there isn’t one specific ethnic group that has the monopoly on racism. I see that with hispanics on the West Coast. One thing racist have in common, regardless of ethnicity, is ignorance. That seems to be the commanality of such disgrace.

  252. tommui July 9, 2010 1:57 pm

    MichiganWarrior re:

    You should have said “Vladivostok”!

    Well, you can’t see Hawaii from Alaska but I have it on good authority that
    you can see Russia from (Juneau) Alaska

  253. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 2:00 pm


    yup, Sarah said she can see Russia from her backyard.

  254. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 2:02 pm

    I do have a ballot.
    As for the AP vote, Paul Arnett turned it over to Ferd this year.
    The AP vote used to alternate every other year between the two daily papers. But now that there’s only one paper, Star-Advertiser rep will always do the picks.

  255. SteveM July 9, 2010 2:04 pm

    Yup, Hawaii is northern hemisphere. The South Point of the Big Island is around 1,140 nautical miles North of the equator. Who here has sailed/cruised over the equator?

    Crossing the equator by sea is a rite of passage. I have never done it, although I have come within 231 frustrating nautical miles. 🙁

    I have reason to believe that Hobes Malmsbury has done this, besides SailorBlue. 🙂

  256. Hobes Malmsbury July 9, 2010 2:15 pm

    Re #255 – crossed it twice.

  257. SailorBlue July 9, 2010 2:17 pm

    SteveM ~ actually I have done it 4 times including at the International Date Line…first time was in 1991…last time was in 2006…

    Also I want to win a championship…or at least for UH to win a championship…

  258. Rainbowbozowarrior July 9, 2010 2:18 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  259. Hobes Malmsbury July 9, 2010 2:18 pm

    Sorry re: #256 – three times by air and once in a cruise.

  260. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 2:18 pm

    I have heard of such rituals. As well as for the one up north.

  261. Shoko July 9, 2010 2:19 pm

    Okay, I came across other WAC blogs that mentioned this. Most of them had Kellen Moore as Offensive Player of the year, while others had Nevada’s Colin Kaepernick. As far as Defensive Player of the Year reigning Nevada’s Donte Moch was the favorite. Was just wondering what you or Ferd thought.

  262. SteveM July 9, 2010 2:19 pm

    While I’m on a geography kick, ever notice that Juneau, Alaska is approximately the same latitude as Stockholm, Sweden? myki will be cruising there from Copenhagen in a few hours.

    Bon Voyage, Myki!>/b>

  263. warriorsanddolphins July 9, 2010 2:28 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  264. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 2:33 pm

    #252… tommui…
    That was what I was getting at. Kind of like telling them that the 50th state is within spitting distance to you, and yet you didn’t even know it.

  265. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 2:34 pm


    I crossed the equator by air twice enroute to Thailand, and from Thailand to London.

  266. Paka July 9, 2010 2:43 pm

    #248- I can see how that could complicate things. But those things are all a part of coaching College Football. The 9 years that we spent at Hawaii was basically trying to build the program to those Sugar Bowl heights. If you recall, when JJ first accepted the Hawaii job, everyone said he was crazy. They said there was no way we could ever recruit any big-time recruits to play here. They said the location made it impossible to win. When he left, the perception was a lot different. People were saying how our location worked to our benefit, and who didn’t want to come to Hawaii to play football.

    The type of recruits that we drew were rarely heavily recruited. College football is different than the Pros in that you can’t just recruit for 4-5 years down the road, but you also have to fill holes. Especially when you were in the situation that we were in in that we weren’t exactly stacked with talent in every position. You lose kids every year to graduation. USC, Florida, and all the other big schools kind of have that luxury, but even they have to fill holes. That’s just the nature of College Football. Also, recruiting isn’t always a science, and I’ve stated earlier that you miss on a few. That why they give you 25 scholies a year.

    You make your living as a Coach in keeping a balance in recruiting for the future and filling the most pressing needs with JC players until you can start recruiting kids to start right away. I’ve sat in all of the recruiting meetings and Assistant Coaches and myself included would disagree with decisions that JJ made with regards to scholarship offers sometimes. But in hindsight, JJ was usually right most of the time.

    There would be times when, I won’t mention names, but an assistant coach would complain that a guy needs to be playing say DB instead of receiver because he would never see the field. But JJ would predict, correctly, that if this kid learns to pick it up, he’ll be unbelievable. There would be other times when a coach would complain that he has nobody who can play and we need to recruit more of a certain position. JJ would always say that anybody can coach the Vince Manuwai’s. You earn your money by getting the troubled kid to play and perform. I learned a lot from those experiences.

    Bottom line is, there can be no excuses in this business. Especially when you now had a program on the National level that kids want to play for. Since we came to Texas, all everyone ever talks about is how they would watch our games at 12 midnight and loved seeing us play. That comes from the 2006-07 season.

    Some people may not agree with everything JJ does. That’s even on his own staff sometimes. But everyone respects his decision in the end and follows through, because you can’t question his success. He’s won everywhere that he’s ever been and turned losers into winners. And kids will jump off of a cliff for him. If he did this once, maybe twice, people could say he’s just lucky. But he won twice now at schools that everyone said was impossible to win, and 7 out of 9 years at Hawaii had a winning record. Plus beat teams with way more talent than his. Hard to argue with that.

    We get paid a lot of money, and people expect results. I can understand the difficulty in doing it, but that’s why we get paid the big bucks.

  267. Kekoa July 9, 2010 2:49 pm

    I want to win a Champioship

    …and I want to have a great time doing it. Especially when it comes at the expense of a team like Boise State!

  268. Jun Tao July 9, 2010 2:54 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  269. Garret July 9, 2010 2:56 pm

    UH really needs Aloha Stadium to get luxury suites and for the money to go to UH…the Stadium Authority could have the money from the luxury suites for other events (concerts, Pro Bowl, other special events), but UH is being left behind in this *important* revenue area.

    UH spent their Sugar Bowl money to cover their deficit, BSU used the money from their first BCS game as seed money for their luxury suites, loge seats, and club seats that will be available this year. They will get around $4 million per year for this…that is three times the profit they make from going to a BCS bowl! That is also 3x more than MWC schools get from their TV contract and 9x more than the WAC gets from its TV contract (not counting the $50k or $75k bonuses for playing ESPN games on days other than Saturday).

  270. Garret July 9, 2010 2:57 pm

    If we don’t want to compare UH to BSU, maybe we should compare UH with Wyoming. Wyoming is spending $22 million on stadium renovations–most of the money is going to things like shoring up the structure and improving access for people in wheelchairs, but they are getting 256 club seats and 12 luxury boxes. I think that the state of Hawaii is spending $60 million on just renovations to Aloha Stadium, but no seating upgrades are being done.

    How much is Wyoming getting from just 256 club seats and 10 luxury boxes? If they sell them all, it will be slightly over $1 million per year for a small investment (it looks like about $5 million is going to pay for the club seats and luxury boxes) in their stadium. That doesn’t include the luxury box that the AD gets and the luxury box that the President gets–they both gets luxury boxes twice the size of the ones fans can lease, which I assume they will use to wine and dine the big donors.

    If *Wyoming* can get luxury boxes and club seats, the Hawaii market is not too small for it!

  271. NCAA July 9, 2010 2:59 pm

    Mrs. gigi-hawaii,

    I didn’t know airlines take a southerly flight path from Thailand to England.

  272. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 2:59 pm

    #269 and #270… Fo’ Realz!!!! Spending a little will get us a lot in the long run. Gotta have that vision!

  273. Garret July 9, 2010 3:01 pm


    You also have to remember that the recruiting budget went from $50k under JJ to $120k for Mack. Hawaiian Airlines also gave $50k worth of plane tickets after JJ left and the problems at UH were publicized. That is more than 3x more money for recruiting!

    Under HF, JJ never had a recruiting coordinator and HF even turned down JJ’s offer to reduce his salary to fund a staff position for football. Under JD, Mack has a recruiting coordinator–salary plus benefits costs the Athletic Department over $100k for that position.

    So, are you honestly saying that you expect the same type of recruiting coordination when one case has a full-time recruiting coordinator and the other does not? That one case should be able to do the same thing with $50k that the other case can do with $170k? Throw in the recruiting coordinator position (have to include overhead that UH charges for each position) and you have between 5x and 6x *more* money for recruiting for Mack than JJ had.

  274. Garret July 9, 2010 3:06 pm

    Spend $5 million to get $1 million per year.

    Spend $36 million to get 2,000 more seats, a new (and much bigger) press box, club rooms, a room for a *faculty club*, and luxury suites, club seats and loge boxes. The luxury suites, club seats and loge boxes by themselves generate $4 million per year, not even counting what they will get from the 2,000 seats.

    These examples makes it seem like a quick way to get a huge return on investment.

  275. SteveM July 9, 2010 3:09 pm

    July 9th, 2010 at 2:18 pm
    I have heard of such rituals. As well as for the one up north.

    chawan_cut — your last reference made me curious so I looked it up. Found it at the bottom of this page…

    Crossing the equator via ship has always received the most attention. The old rituals sounded like my CPO initiation back in the late 70’s. 😐 Much better to cross today on a modern cruise ship, I think…

    Those that have crossed the date line by sea are of the “Order of the Golden Dragon”. I got that twice in 1967.

    Didn’t know I am also in the “Order of the Ditch”. Other members include Tom Mui, papajoe2, and hawnstln.

  276. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 3:11 pm


    No denying that JJ was and is something special. I would think though that every coach has their own method through all this madness. The Mack and Ron combination were no JJ. But, so far Mack has had 1 Bowl season and 1 losing season. If the seasons were reversed, I think we would have heard less criticism towards him. I just hope he can pull this season out and get us to the Sheraton Bowl. I’d hate to see us goring through another coaching change and rebuilding so soon after JJ left. The program needs stability and the time to grow. Unfortunately, the undercurrents towards Conference expansion might not allow for the kind of “time” one would want.

  277. Kazz July 9, 2010 3:19 pm

    The CANCER that is conference expansion really has shortened the timeline that some programs have to improve and it’s not just us, but the rest of the WAC, especially in USU, NMSU, and SJSU.

    With three more years left including this coming season, I don’t know how much it would make a difference if we’re left looking for a new head coach in 6 months or in two years, but again, the timetable is smaller than it has ever been.

  278. Paka July 9, 2010 3:19 pm

    I don’t disagree with you at all. and I wish for the same things. I’m just saying that in this business, no one wants excuses, and when they commit to you in pay and facilities or whatever, they want to win now. It is just the third year of his contract so you are right, this is the season to really judge what we have. But fans like results. It never ends. Even after you win.

  279. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 3:28 pm

    Paka, while you were at Hawaii, did the coaching staff ever envision the shifts of schools in the BCS, WAC, or MWC? If so, what did you guys hear about and what is your views on what happened with Colorado, Utah, and Boise State?

  280. tom July 9, 2010 3:37 pm

    MICHIGANWARRIOR: re your #264. Unfortunately lots of people are ignorant of geography and Hawaii’s relationship to the world and to the Nation.

    I get some long distance phone calls from the East Coast too early in the morning because they think Hawaii is just a few miles off the California coast and on Pacific Standard/Daylight Time.

    My daughter went to school and in some social, this guy was talking about Hawaii and the reason why houses here were mostly on stilts was to let the lava flow through!

  281. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] July 9, 2010 3:38 pm


    Every player has to do what is best for themselves!! If a UH student-athlete plays for us for 2-years, we should embrace that, this person choose to come here. If the person does not WANT to be here, that player would probably be best to move on, because it’s only wasting their time doing something that they don’t want to do.

  282. Pride. July 9, 2010 3:40 pm


    July 9th, 2010 at 2:34 pm

    I crossed the equator by air twice enroute to Thailand, and from Thailand to London.

    When I was a youngster, I passed over the Pali five times. Three times to go to La’ie. Twice to go to Hau’ula. That was an adventure.

  283. Protector July 9, 2010 3:43 pm

    #280. I don’t doubt it at all. Some people in Calfornia think Hawaii is too long a distance to travel yet have no problems going to NY or other East Coast states.

    Those people don’t realize that the distance to Hawaii is about 500 miles less.

  284. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 3:43 pm

    Pride #282 was that with or without car?:)

  285. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 3:45 pm

    #283 Protector, That’s because if the plane crash, they cannot swim.

  286. (Jesse) James July 9, 2010 3:48 pm

    LOL..Well, I had a person from NY ask me once what the closest state to Hawaii was???

  287. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 3:48 pm

    did we ever find out where blaze went to? was that the J-e-t-s too?

  288. NCAA July 9, 2010 3:53 pm

    Mr. Pride,

    When you came back from La’ie and Hau’ula you took a different route? Around Hawaii Kai or through the scenic North Shore?

  289. Paka July 9, 2010 3:55 pm

    Truthfully, we never envisioned the conference shake-ups that has happened this year. We all wished that we could get invited into the PAC-10 one day, but never thought that it was an attainable goal. Ironically, JJ always mentioned to me the possibility of having to go independent if the WAC ever folded. We always thought that Boise would try to get into the MWC, and that Fresno would also try but could never get accepted. I was really surprised that the PAC-10 invited Utah and Colorado. Although a lot of their players come from PAC-10 cities, they don’t seem to fit the mold of the conference. I thought that if the PAC-10 didn’t get Texas/Texas A&M, that they wouldn’t expand at all.

    There has been a big push for SMU to get into the Big XII, but honestly, I don’t see that happening. Although we have some heavy hitters that can come up with the $$$ and are connected in a big way, they are just now coming back into the fold at SMU. I don’t believe the school has dedicated themselves enough to big time athletics on that level. We need improvement in facilities and institutional support. I also think we need to get a baseball team and track team. TCU went the baseball route, while SMU decided to go the Soccer route.

    I know a lot of people blame Benson for not being pro-active, but there really isn’t much that he can do to be pro-active. The good schools are looking for a way out of the conference, and there isn’t any desirable teams that the WAC can really lure into it.

    UH needs to set itself up to move because I’m not sure if the WAC will survive for very long. But the commitment also needs to come from the State of Hawaii unfortunately. I think if UH could get into the MWC, that could be good and bad in that it is a better conference but not necessarily a better profile nationally. Even Utah, BYU, and TCU didn’t get a lot of National coverage until last year.

    Somebody in the State government, whether it be the Governor, Mayor, anybody with a lot of juice needs to seriously up the funding to the University. I think that’s the only way, because there are no “big-time” donors to the University to be able to fund the Athletics program at a level to go either to a bigger conference or independent.

    That’s just my take on it.

  290. Pomai July 9, 2010 4:02 pm

    #233 Old Diver – no it means

    “the group that supports baseball”

    They didn’t know how to say softball LOL

  291. Pomai July 9, 2010 4:12 pm

    Paka, MIH, bottom line JJ is a special kind of coach.

  292. roysan16 July 9, 2010 4:25 pm

    The question I would have for Paka,

    When it comes to strength and conditioning does Coach Jones push any buttons? Does he look over the shoulder of the strength and conditioning coach and say what he wants done? Or does he stand back and watch and leave it all up to the strength and conditioning coach to lead the team and the program? I was curious as in knowing what influence Coach Jones has on strength and conditioning.If I had to guess it would seem like it was good one.

  293. 808ike July 9, 2010 4:29 pm

    I want to win a championship!

  294. redhill July 9, 2010 4:33 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  295. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 4:40 pm

    each young athlete, like any young adult needs to find their way their own way to their future. whether to grow up at home or on the road on his/her own.
    ST brings up a good point though if he/she pulls a lebron and leaves after 2 years to want more. that would be just as hurtful. he/she probably would be scorned and not forgiven too.

  296. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 4:45 pm

    which is unfortunate, because we are sorta selfish for our team but is it fair for the athlete to want to make the best for his/her future?

  297. Kazz July 9, 2010 4:45 pm


  298. Paka July 9, 2010 4:48 pm

    As long as I’ve been with him, the Strength and Conditioning coach is in charge of putting together and supervising the workouts for the team. The only thing JJ would say is like a certain day of the week he wanted to rest their legs, so don’t run them. Or give them this week off after the season or before the season and then start the workout schedule. But everything was handled by the Strength Coach. He also wanted updates on who was missing workouts and who was improving or not improving. He also kept track of the weight of players. He would say, I want so-and-so to weight xxx amount before camp starts. Stuff like that. He also said what he wanted the punishment to be for guys who had strikes against them. Basically, if you were put in charge of something, like I’m Video, Mel’s Strength, we are basically responsible for it. The only time he says something is if we either fail to get the job done, or he wants something specific. But we report to him on everything.

  299. Kazz July 9, 2010 4:49 pm


    I sympathize with the hardcore fans of Cleveland.

    On the Sports Animals, Chris Hart said it was wrong that someone held sports in such a high regard in their own personal life to take things like free agency personally.

    Well… speaking as someone who’s weekly mood is defined by how UH does, I can understand.

    I have no kids and I am not married, which does make things easier for me to place UH athletics at such a high pedestal in my life and it’s almost to the point where I wonder if I would be able to have a family at all! 😆

  300. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 4:52 pm


    WDoc is a true fan, just like you. She has season tickets to more than one UH sport. Yet, she has a family.

    It can be done, trust me.

  301. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 4:56 pm

    i wonder the same thing.

  302. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 4:59 pm

    #299… Kazz… I can relate. I do have a great family with a few kids. One thing’s for sure… if we lose a game that we should have/could have won, I find myself mad and depressed for a few days. likewise, when we win, I’m happy. But, when we win one that we weren’t supposed to win, or we come from behind to win, I’m on cloud 9 for a week.
    I love UH sports… no matter what!

  303. Kazz July 9, 2010 5:00 pm


    Knowing my luck, if I had kids and they played some kind of sport, they’d want to go to some place like Stanford.

    If I had a girl, I’d personally encourage softball.

    If I had a boy, I’d personally encourage volleyball and this probably means my wife would have to be significantly taller than me to balance out the ‘short’ gene.

  304. Life is Good July 9, 2010 5:00 pm

    The Cleveland Cavaliers owner sounds like a hateful woman having a hissy fit after a bitter divorce because her husband left for a younger and prettier one. But this isn’t a marriage vow that was broken; Lebron’s not obligated to stay even though he is an Ohio native. Lebron gave his best for 7 years and felt he had a better chance for a title somewhere else, which was his right. Cleveland management’s ineptness and lack of foresight is what cause the deal to fail. Lebron wasn’t looking for more money, he wanted to win a championship. Instead of doing everything it took to bring the right players to build a winning team, they banked on that Lebron was going to stay if they threw more money at him and changed the coaching staff. A dollar too late and a change too short. I’m pretty sure he weighed his decision and didn’t make up his mind until the night before he made the announcement….just like JJ, I don’t believe he really wanted to leave, but his heart was telling him he it was time to go somewhere else. They didn’t break any contract, and they didn’t break any promises, it’s just that they felt a greater calling somewhere else.

  305. Kazz July 9, 2010 5:03 pm

    I laughed at the comments of the Cavs’ owner. Some things shouldn’t have been made public and for the love of God, don’t go swearing on championships when you’ve already FAILED to retain a superstar like James by not even attempting to surround him with a supporting cast that could make it all the way.

    It’s like Karl Benson promising the WAC would be making a BCS appearance every year for the next 10 years and winning a BCS National Title before BSU does.

  306. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 5:06 pm

    You guys saw the commercial… when she throws a hissy fit, just give her a Snickers bar, and she’ll snap out of Diva mode.

  307. Paka July 9, 2010 5:07 pm

    I agree with you on the Cavs owner. That was an emotional knee-jerk reaction by him. The problem with that is, he needs to be a bit more dignified for a man in his position. Basketball owners are kind of that way though.

  308. Kazz July 9, 2010 5:09 pm

    Anyone seen the commercial for “Kitten Mittens”? 😆

  309. Kazz July 9, 2010 5:10 pm


    It was entertaining for us to read and hear though!!!! 😆

  310. Kazz July 9, 2010 5:12 pm

    One of my favorite commercials:



    DOUBLE SUN POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  311. Paka July 9, 2010 5:14 pm

    My message to all the Cleveland fans is this: “Life- you don’t know how long it’s going to be, and you know it’s going to be a bad ending, but you have to move forward anyway.”

  312. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 5:15 pm


    Thanks for your take on all of this. Can’t wait for the season to get started…

  313. Mad Dog July 9, 2010 5:22 pm

    I want to win a championship.

    I’ll be happy with a bowl game.

  314. d1島 July 9, 2010 5:26 pm

    # gigi-hawaii:
    July 9th, 2010 at 1:52 pm


    my cousin graduated from U of Michigan, Ann Arbor, School of Dentristy 1980s. He said it is number one among dental schools.

    He’s now a dentist in New Mexico, of all places, and doing very well.

    Was your uncle a well-known local golfer?

  315. MichiganWarrior July 9, 2010 5:32 pm

    Fo’ realz, Paka. Mahalo for sharing with us. Sometimes, it’s good for us fans to hear stuff from staff, whether it’s to confirm or absolutely blow up what we may be thinking, hoping, and wishing for. It helps us to be more appreciative, knowledgeable fans.

  316. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 5:32 pm



  317. d1島 July 9, 2010 5:33 pm



  318. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 5:35 pm


    I sent you email about 30 mins ago. Don’t know if you changed your address…

  319. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 5:37 pm

    Paka, Mahalo for your info and input. See you at the Sheraton Bowl.

  320. Paka July 9, 2010 5:41 pm

    Thanks everyone. Aloha. I going hiamoe. papjoe2, here’s hoping for that Hawaii Bowl match up. I’ll be down at “RumFire” having a few cocktails that week leading into it hopefully. Come join me.

  321. JaM July 9, 2010 5:41 pm

    Good afternoon to all!

    I want to win a championship.

  322. JaM July 9, 2010 5:42 pm

    Hiya gigi…

    Long time!

  323. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 5:45 pm


    hi, hi, hi!!!

    good to see you again.

  324. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 5:47 pm

    Any idea how many scholies we might have for the offering at the end of this season?

  325. Matt July 9, 2010 6:42 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  326. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 7:01 pm

    mih, i could be wrong but probably 25 since we didn’t lose any from poor academics.

  327. ai-eee-soos July 9, 2010 7:07 pm

    I want to win a cardiac championship.

  328. Bowbooze July 9, 2010 7:08 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  329. Slugger July 9, 2010 7:19 pm

    #310 ~ Kazz,

    I like the new Old Spice commercials with the ex-football player. Woohoo! But then, that’s from a different perspective than your’s.

    I want to win a championship.

    I want our teams to win the WAC championship.

    I want a football WAC championship!

  330. Slugger July 9, 2010 7:20 pm


  331. Mike July 9, 2010 7:33 pm

    Tiff wants to win a championship.

    Hey, I know this conversation went stale hours ago but if Miami is South Beach, Hawaii should be called “All Beach.”

    And as a Celtic fan, I’m proud that the LeBron diss-fest started when he quit at the end of our second-round series. Our Big 3 can beat up your Big 3! Not really. Actually … our Nine Other Guys can beat up your Nine Other Guys!

  332. Curt July 9, 2010 7:37 pm

    That be great to meet Paka & SMU at the Hawaii Bowl. Gotta get that offense smoking! Also, we gotta stop da big boys from just plain running over us like Wisconsin did.

  333. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 7:37 pm


    I am a Celtics fan, too. I so wanted them to win the championship!

    But, realistically, our Big 3 are so old compared to Miami’s Big 3. I have a feeling we will run out of gas, frankly.

  334. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 7:39 pm


    wouldn’t it be great if it became an annual rivalry?

  335. Curt July 9, 2010 7:43 pm


    Tiff wants to win a championship? But, she already has that Warrior helmet. I’m still jealous after all these years. Ha-ha.

    Hope you and Tiff are doing well. It’s great to be newly wed.

  336. Momo July 9, 2010 7:43 pm

    I want to win a championship

  337. Curt July 9, 2010 7:47 pm


    Yes it would be great if it became a rivalry. Even better if we beat them every year in the bowl. Student (Rolo) meets and give good lickin’s to teacher (JJ). Yes sir; dat’s my dream and I’m sticking to it.

  338. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 7:48 pm

    I didn’t know Mike and Tiff got married. When did this happen?

    I met her at the blog bash in 2008 at the SSC. Cute!

  339. Curt July 9, 2010 7:55 pm

    I think they got married about a couple months ago.

  340. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 8:02 pm

    Has anybody seen two teams competing against each other, using the run and shoot system?

    Can you imagine them both passing the ball all night?

    I think the game would last longer than 4 hours!

  341. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 8:13 pm

    we were one win away from that last year.
    i am jealous of that helmet too.

  342. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 8:17 pm


    Yeah, I just realized what you meant.

    One win away from facing SMU and the run and shoot in the bowl.


  343. sportsbow July 9, 2010 8:20 pm

    193. roysan16

    Your post and link referring to Phil Steele’s point spread were from last year’s schedule, not this years schedule. It says July 9, 2009.

  344. gigi-hawaii July 9, 2010 8:22 pm


    sharp eyes you have!

  345. roysan16 July 9, 2010 8:43 pm


    good p/u sportsbow. hmmm. i had gone to the wash. site. hmm. how did that go wrong. nm.

  346. roysan16 July 9, 2010 8:46 pm

    tks Paka on the info regarding S&C w/coach Jones.

  347. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 8:57 pm


    When Hal Mumme was coaching NMSU, I suppose that’s as close as we got to two RnS teams shooting it out.. unfortunately, NMSU didn’t have much of a defense so it wasn’t as interesting as it could have been.

  348. BG July 9, 2010 9:06 pm

    Been awhile posting…Hi everyone!

    Very belated welcome back to GG. Good to see JaM too. Missed C_C when he was away.

    Also belated congratulations to Duffer (aka Ace)!!!

  349. BG July 9, 2010 9:07 pm

    Thanks Paka! This clubhouse thrives on a balance in perspectives.

  350. BG July 9, 2010 9:10 pm

    GG…#341 C_C was referring to the autographed Colt helmet that Tiff won at that blog bash. Broke everyone’s heart. That was the most coveted prize ever!

  351. BG July 9, 2010 9:14 pm

    OK…hit and run..uh, meant “esme”. It was nice taking a short break and visiting the Tsaiko clubhouse. Everyone play nice!

  352. wafan July 9, 2010 9:19 pm


  353. wafan July 9, 2010 9:20 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  354. wafan July 9, 2010 9:20 pm

    Good to see Paka and JaM back!

  355. wafan July 9, 2010 9:21 pm

    Goofy wifi.

  356. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 9:27 pm

    If anyone is interested, we’re going to roll the rock (bowl) at Pali Lanes at about 10:15.
    Be there or be … jmxxxx.

  357. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 9:29 pm

    That’s 10:15 tonight.

  358. Ralph July 9, 2010 9:40 pm

    ST looking for gimmes to whop since Devon and JMxxx aren’t giving him any love on the lanes.

  359. jm2375 July 9, 2010 9:49 pm

    ST – you looking for lickin’s ain’t ya? Devon’s gonna kick your okole again and again and again and again…

    Once flew from Miami to DC. Check-in desk girl asked if I wanted to join the frequent-flyer program. I filled out the form and gave it back to her. She said I needed a *domestic* address… I think I gave her the biggest stink eye…

  360. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 9:49 pm

    Jmxxx is making it. Brother Mike is staying home with Tiffany, Colt’s helmet and the memory of the Celtics.

  361. Bandit July 9, 2010 9:49 pm

    Is anyone at liberty to disclose who Paka is? Really enjoyed his posts. Lots of hints in the blog but just can’t figure it out.

  362. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 9, 2010 9:50 pm

    I want to win a championship

  363. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 9:51 pm

    We’re watching Dateline. We’re leaving a little bit after.

  364. jm2375 July 9, 2010 9:51 pm

    I want to win a championship.

    off to whoop ST.

  365. Stephen Tsai July 9, 2010 9:52 pm

    Paka is the former UH video coordinator. He now works with JJ at SMU.

  366. Bandit July 9, 2010 10:08 pm

    Thanks ST. I kind of thought it was him but didn’t realize he went to Texas.

    Good luck you to you Paka.

  367. chawan_cut July 9, 2010 10:10 pm

    aw dang, its already 1015. have fun you bowlers.

  368. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc July 9, 2010 10:12 pm

    What a day – mark it in your calendars – July 9, 2010. In about a month, you’ll find out why – and when you do, give a Big Chunk of Aloha to two Tsai-kos for pulling the wagon out of the hole.

  369. Curt July 9, 2010 10:21 pm

    I thought the helmet that Tiff won was a replica Colt helmet…not da real mccoy. In fact, I thought Kazz was the one who “made” it. Kazz, what say you? Whatever it was, it was the most desired prize.

  370. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 10:23 pm

    #368 C-ist.WD, What? what? WHAT??? You killing me with the suspense. Now I no can sleep.

  371. Curt July 9, 2010 10:45 pm

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc,

    Papajoe2 is right. You’re causing us to lose sleep. And I need all the beauty rest possible. 🙂

  372. Curt July 9, 2010 10:51 pm

    Hmmm. I think it might have to do with Wahine softball.

  373. Slugger July 9, 2010 10:53 pm

    I want to win a championship.

    WDoc! What?!?

  374. Curt July 9, 2010 10:53 pm

    I won’t guess anymore. Let’s wait and see. Now, if I can only go to sleep.

  375. Curt July 9, 2010 10:55 pm

    Who would go bowling at 10:15 at night? Didn’t mom tell you that “nuthing good happens after 10 pm?”

  376. Curt July 9, 2010 11:02 pm

    Maybe ST fell in the gutter while bowling and 2 Tsai-kos pulled him out.

  377. Bigislandkurt July 9, 2010 11:09 pm



  378. Curt July 9, 2010 11:14 pm

    Eye lids are getting heavy…….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  379. HiFlyer July 9, 2010 11:16 pm

    I want to win a championship.

  380. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 11:35 pm

    eh, late already. you guys no sleep or what. i no can because of C-ist/WD keeping me in suspense.

  381. madeinhawaii July 9, 2010 11:37 pm

    CFN Warrior Preview

    link courtesy of Sportsbow on Sports Hawaii Forum.

  382. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 11:41 pm

    SteveM, I’m just curious. How many posts did we have on the last day of the HA blog? I went to sleep after we broke the record (almost midnight) cause I had to get up early (5am) to golf the next day. I shot my best first 9 holes that day, but then fatigue set in and I pulled a Michelle Wie on the second 9. I usually take about 8 holes to warm up, then, after about 12 holes fatigue sets in.

  383. Ralph July 9, 2010 11:56 pm

    papajoe2 you need some 5 hr energy drink, or red bull.

  384. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 11:57 pm

    midnight! nite all.

  385. papajoe2 July 9, 2010 11:58 pm

    Ralph, I might need more than some. how come you still up? oh yeah, only old guys go sleep this early:)

  386. SteveM July 10, 2010 12:05 am

    July 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
    SteveM, I’m just curious. How many posts did we have on the last day of the HA blog? I went to sleep after we broke the record (almost midnight) ……

    papajoe2 — good question. The answer depends on when it is considered ended…. in my opinion, the old blog was supposed to end at midnight and disappear (but it didn’t).

    So, based on the midnight criterion, the record is 1,475 posted by J.

    The blog entry was left up throughout the next day and after noting the 2,100 poster, I stopped recording since it was not so much a matter or setting a record anymore…it was more a situation that no techie took down the blog as announced.

    BTW–Al owes a lunch to J for being the last poster at midnight…and she’s on Oahu visiting now? I still owe one to Slugger for making the 1,000 post.

  387. Slugger July 10, 2010 12:08 am

    Night gang!

    I want to win a championship.

    I get to watch my family bowl on Sunday…wonder how the bowlers are doing? The young’uns are probably whooping them.

  388. Slugger July 10, 2010 12:10 am

    J is back on the mainland.

  389. papajoe2 July 10, 2010 12:23 am

    SteveM, lets just use that midnight number because it didn’t go off until the next day. That was fun but I couldn’t last.

  390. papajoe2 July 10, 2010 12:33 am

    #381 mih nice article about the warriors. good to see what the nation perceives UH to be.

  391. papajoe2 July 10, 2010 12:35 am

    I wonder if ST is still bowling. If was me, fatigue after 8 frames.

  392. jm2375 July 10, 2010 12:49 am


    Back from bowling. Ahem, clueless wahine beats blog-meister 3 games to 1. 😀 Blog-meister, clueless wahine and screecher #1 beat the Tsai boys by *1* pin. Fun had by all.

  393. protector July 10, 2010 12:49 am

    Protector on 283,

    I wish you would choose a DIFFERENT blog name – I’ve blogged sporadically for around 2 years with this moniker now and would prefer that you change, respectfully, to avoid confusion. Mahalo. Ray (protector)

  394. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:22 am

    may as well go for 400


  395. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:23 am


  396. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:23 am

    5 more to go

  397. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:23 am

    4 – 3 – 2 – 1

  398. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:23 am

    3 – 2 – 1

  399. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:24 am


  400. jm2375 July 10, 2010 1:25 am



  401. ai-eee-soos July 10, 2010 2:16 am

    Chad Owens – if this hasn’t been posted yet …

    Chad had a 117 yard TD run, off a missed FG.

    per Kanoa Leahy, on the news (re-play).

    That’s 117 yards ……

  402. ai-eee-soos July 10, 2010 2:26 am

    another source called it a 118 yard TD run by Chad Owens.

  403. RainbowCliff July 10, 2010 5:29 am

    Good Morning Tsaiko Nation !

    Beautiful weekend ahead for all of you where ever you may be SO get up breathe that fresh air and stretch your arms to the sky as you SMILE to the words “I AM ALIVE” and bless to be LIVING !

    PRAYERS to go out for Hawaiianbod as he faces the battle for his 14 year old son who’s life is in grave danger with a most unfortunate accident. I urge all to keep your spiritual faith for him as we lift the whole family that they may get through this difficult time and that UNIVERSAL prayers can reach the young boy’s heart and soul with his eyes awakening and seeing the LOVE surrounding him from family members and friends as “Lord Hear My Prayer” !

    We must always give thanks and praise as LIFE is so precious and is not promise BUT while we are here “make it count” and share the true meaning of compassion and greet God’s people with a smile and kind gesture of empathy and sincerity as God loves a cheerful giver and he LOVES all of us in our own creation regardless of race, creed or color !

    Have a BEAUTIFUL morning Tsaiko Nation and remember to touch, hug and feel as there is no better physical feeling in the WORLD when we reach out and show CARE to each other as my ALOHA is on this morning and all I want to do is seek and greet everyone with a warm smile and words of “THANK YOU” as it goes a long way in making a day happy for this GREAT planet we call earth and the BEAUTIFUL people who we have the privelage of being our neighbors, friends and associates !

    Vaya Con Dios !

  404. d1島 July 10, 2010 6:16 am

    Great Morning All!

    Prayers for hawaiianbod and his Ohana.

  405. 702WarriorFan July 10, 2010 6:24 am

    Thoughts and prayers to Kea for his recovery.

  406. koakane iphone4 July 10, 2010 6:29 am

    I want to win a championship.

  407. d1島 July 10, 2010 6:38 am


    Up early or still up late?

  408. d1島 July 10, 2010 6:55 am

    Can’t find video of Chad Owens’ 117 yd FG return.

    He’s flourishing on those huge CFL pastures!

  409. Calvin from Kona July 10, 2010 8:45 am

    Good Morning…if it’s not too late..


  410. Calvin from Kona July 10, 2010 8:46 am

    By the way, when is the Blog Bash again?

  411. roulette system July 18, 2010 5:19 pm

    This is the greatest nonsenese I ever heared off.

  412. rulett July 26, 2010 11:54 am

    This is the greatest nonsenese I ever heared off.

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