Northern exposure

The way former UH corner/returner Mike Edwards figured it, playing experience — any playing experience — is much needed this year. That was the thinking behind signing a short-term contract with the Montreal Alouettes of the Canadian Football League rather than wait for a free-agent invitation to an NFL training camp.

The CFL has two rookie offers: 1) A one-year contract with a team option for a second year, or 2) a two-year contract with a team option for a third year. Agent Michael Hoffman said Edwards chose the one-year deal, a decision that could lead to a quicker transfer to the NFL if he has a breakout season in 2014.

Edwards relinquished his senior year at UH to apply for the 2013 NFL draft. He was not selected, and ended up signing a free-agent contact with the New York Jets. But an injury limited his playing time, as well as provided little video evidence of his skills. After being cut by the Jets, he was invited to work out for a few teams. None of the auditions resulted in an offer.

“He needs to get on the field and play,” Hoffman said. “He understands that. He didn’t want to take the chance of not playing this year.”

With the CFL’s wider field, Edwards will be able to demonstrate his coverage abilities in space.

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In the early days of the Stan Sheriff Center, when it was known as the Special Events Center, there were two locker rooms — one for the home team, one for the visitors. The home locker, which was initially designed for women, did not have any urinals. Phase II included the construction of locker rooms. There are now eight locker rooms, including one for officials. (There are no locker rooms for coaches, though.)

The Sheriff Center’s start is a lesson in patience — a virtue that is useful as the Ching athletic complex takes shape. While offices and locker rooms have been certified, there is one glitch. There’s no locker room for the male assistant soccer coach. On the bright side, he gets more exercise using the locker room in the UH athletic complex across Ching field.

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Anybody else notice the forecast calls for rain every time UH plays a home men’s volleyball match?

The Rainbow Warriors take on UCLA tonight and tomorrow night in the Sheriff Center. First serve is at 7:05 p.m.


  1. Warrior Storm Brewin February 28, 2014 6:49 am


  2. Warrior Storm Brewin February 28, 2014 6:54 am

    Tear up the CFL, Mike. Good luck and we are cheering for you!

    Good morning all…

  3. tommui February 28, 2014 7:05 am


    Aloha Mike Edwards – good luck!

  4. tommui February 28, 2014 7:11 am

    Once more we have an example of the slipshod planning at UH – like the initial softball field. Good exercise for the male assistant soccer coach – I suppose in the interest of necessity, there is always the grass field – maybe by DPK’s tree? 🙂

  5. papajoe2 February 28, 2014 7:21 am

    Top 10. Aloha everybody!

  6. DaveLetterMan February 28, 2014 7:21 am

    Morning Tsaikos!
    Mike vs Chad
    Should be fun to watch.

  7. Shoko February 28, 2014 7:21 am

    Should be interesting how Edwards adjust to Canadian football rules. Good luck to him, though. Hope he gets lots of playing time.

  8. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 7:36 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 😉

    Judge Mui – Et tu, Brute? 😆

    Good luck to Mike Edwards!

  9. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 7:45 am

    Riley Wallace said he was given these options: More lockers or a permanent floor.
    He chose the permanent floor. Remember the dead spots on the old Blaisdell Arena court? BYU’s Russell Larsen sure does. He lost the ball, Phil Handy grabbed it, flipped it to Tes Whitlock, who hit a shot that became an ESPY nominee.

  10. old808 February 28, 2014 7:47 am

    Good morning to all have a great day and keep playing hard to our baseball bows.

  11. Old School Dave February 28, 2014 8:02 am

    Have you seen the new IT building on the upper campus? I wonder how long before the roof leaks?

  12. Ipu Man February 28, 2014 8:07 am

    Go “Rain” Bows and Mike Edwards!

  13. jm2375 February 28, 2014 8:17 am

    Good morning Tsaikos! Happy Aloha Friday!

    Best wishes to Mike Edwards in the CFL!


    Off-topic shameless plug, but for a good cause. Stop by before heading to Lower Campus tomorrow.

    Please join the University Lab School ‘ohana for the ULS Pa‘ina & Cultural Festival this Saturday at the ULS Campus from 4:00-9:00pm.
    Food, games, displays, and music – Maunalua, Holunape, Imua, Pomaika’i Lyman & Uhe’uhene, student performances, and so much more! See the school website for more info.

  14. Former UH Athlete February 28, 2014 8:45 am

    Good luck to Edwards in the CFL this year. Playing the CFL is a tricky path to the NFL. Very few guys make it back to the NFL once they choose the CFL. It’s like waving a white flag.

    If it were financially feasible for Edwards, I would have advised Mike to wait one more year before opting playing in the CFL. That way, he could potentially workout at UH’s pro day, improve on his numbers from last year, or at least show that he’s in playing shape for scouts to consider when the teams start picking up guys for fall camp.

  15. RainbowCliff February 28, 2014 8:47 am

    Good Morning Tsaiko Nation, rain has stopped for now as a dead silence looms here where I live. Los Angeles is still on the run with everybody having a car gearing it up driving the wet streets of Southern California. Hope all is well here on the Warrior Beat as it has been a while since I have posted. Have a GREAT day to all of you !

  16. Shoko February 28, 2014 8:50 am

    Interesting story about SDSU and Stephen Rivers. It doesn’t sound as if it would be a mutual fit for either. Rivers is looking for a scholarship that the Aztecs don’t have at the moment. However, there is a possibility that Rivers could be willing to walk-on if he really, really wanted to play there.

  17. Shoko February 28, 2014 8:55 am

    Houston, we have contact.

    Apparently Muema has surfaced and is heading home per source.

  18. Former UH Athlete February 28, 2014 8:57 am

    I think Edwards has the talent to make a NFL roster. I think his agent is not leading him on a good path. I still question why Hoffman lined up Edwards with the Jets. Where there were already 2 established CBs, and the Jets picked up a CB in the 1st Rd of the draft. I remember looking at the training camp roster and there were basically 8 or 9 CBs competing for 2 CB positions and the Jets already had a good punt returner in Jeremy Kerley. So basically it would have taken a minor miracle for Edwards to make the Jets last year.

  19. NorthShoreFan February 28, 2014 9:09 am

    Guud Morning Tsaikos…smoggy, humid day..


  20. al February 28, 2014 9:25 am

    former uh athlete…how you doing this fine day?
    perhaps i missed it, but, who are you?
    name, sport, and year?

    thank you sir.

  21. gobows February 28, 2014 9:40 am

    i thought this kind of bs only happened to hawaii…
    allen, texas’ $60 million, 18,000 seat high school stadium opened august 2012 is closed due to extensive cracking in the concrete.–60-million-texas-prep-footballs-stadium-built-in-2012–it-s-closed-160120213.html?vp=1

  22. Jeezy33 February 28, 2014 9:55 am

    18. You should question why he left early for the draft. All teams passed up on him so somewhere he was advised incorrectly ..

  23. koakane ® February 28, 2014 10:37 am

    good alojah friday everybody

    so Stephen when did men vball have a sand team

    Anybody else notice the forecast calls for rain every time UH plays a home men’s volleyball match?

    congrats to mens diamond and womens bball team on their wins yesterday

    jm# might stop by but got morning duties at Kaka’ako waterfront park for Kuhio day Hoolaulea. Not doing anything peeps drop by starts at 11

  24. jm2375 February 28, 2014 10:49 am

    KK – #23 – It’s from 4pm – 9pm!!!

  25. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 10:52 am

    I think it has somewhat of an impact on attendance.
    It’s just weird that it’s always a miserable day when they play at home.

  26. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 10:54 am

    CFL is a smart move for a lot of people.
    It’s also good to beat the rush.
    It’s like in basketball. I think guys should accurately assess their talents, then try to beat the crowd for European- or Asian-market contracts. Sometimes playing and earning a check are better. Bird in hand, and all of that.

  27. KAPAA WARRIOR February 28, 2014 10:55 am

    I think Edwards should have stayed for his senior year. His agent screwed him on that move! I know the COLTS need DB help real bad. Good luck up north Mike!
    So Wittek coming for his visit huh?

  28. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 10:58 am

    Wittek arrives this evening.

  29. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 11:01 am

    I think a lot of people asked why UH didn’t make a strong push to sign a JC quarterback. So I asked around, and here’s the deal: After a lot of evaluation — and a lot of video watching — the consensus was Ikaika Woolsey was better than any JC quarterback available. He’s got the arm, athletic skills and football IQ. What’s more, Woolsey actually came out of a very good JC program. He attended City College of a part-time student during his grayshirt semester.

  30. al February 28, 2014 11:04 am

    28…get the hula girls out to the airport!!!
    rainbow dancers!
    cheer leaders!

  31. al February 28, 2014 11:06 am

    haha…and don’t tell koakane ip5 and his sidekick james.

  32. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 11:07 am

    Competition is good.
    I’m sure Wittek thinks he could start here. I’m sure Graham, Woolsey, Higgins and Reilly think they each could start here.

  33. al February 28, 2014 11:10 am

    in fact getting a graduated transfer for two years to compete at the helm is a smart and calculated move. no academic hurdles now or in the future. possibly getting a much better prospect…..

  34. Stephen Tsai February 28, 2014 11:12 am

    There aren’t as many opportunities for a drop-back quarterback (Stephen Rivers) as there were a few years ago. Even in the NFL, everyone is looking for the next Russell Wilson or Colin Kaepernick.

  35. al February 28, 2014 11:12 am

    it was imperative for chow to bring in another guy. aside from woolsey’s potential everyone else is probably not up to snuff for varying reasons.

  36. kifi February 28, 2014 11:14 am

    #24 – KK not going make it past 4 pm.

  37. al February 28, 2014 11:14 am

    …and back then, guys like warren moon had a tough time cracking the ice because of the same skills sought today.

  38. al February 28, 2014 11:15 am

    wittek’s moving up the hawaii visit is an encouraging sign.

  39. PONO February 28, 2014 11:21 am

    Wittek is a nice insurance policy to have. He’ll have to choose an opportunity or the glitz and glamour of a large BCS school.

  40. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:29 am

    Meanwhile, speaking of UH Quarterbacks:

  41. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:31 am

    Still wearing #15! Interesting to note there are only 2 QBs on the roster.

  42. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:33 am

    Notice # 33 on the roster? 😉

  43. al February 28, 2014 11:42 am

    dpk…you gonna make it out to some spring practices?
    your tree will be happy.

  44. marleysdad February 28, 2014 11:47 am

    DPK, what about #8?

  45. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:48 am

    ha! Will make practices, but not for the reasons some of you are obsessed with.

    Just remember, Tsai started all that nonsense. He NEVER exaggerates or overstates, does he?

  46. PONO February 28, 2014 11:49 am

    You need to mark your territory, shi shi on the tree.

  47. jeezy33 February 28, 2014 11:53 am

    29. What you say makes sense but the actions don’t match that…

    My take… If you think that highly of Woolsey, he should have gotten reps this year whether he starts or platoons like other teams do. You can’t base everything off what you see in practice because things need to translate to game time as well. How else do you know what you have unless you see it in action??

    Yes SS gave this team the best chance to win. No arguing that But in the end, it still only resulted in 1 win. As a HC, you need to look out for the best interest in the program as well as your job. When you lose your first 7 games, you’re not going bowling or winning your conference. Your goals need to be reassessed. Winning 2 games isn’t going to save your job or make fans think any differently of you.

    This isn’t youth sports where you want to win it for the seniors or look out for whats best in your seniors. At some point you need to prepare for next season. They say you get 3 years to to show results in this day and age. Why not throw some of your younger guys out there to gain experience? Doesn’t mean SS has to sit the bench the entire game. Or bench BRendan Daley and Art Laurel for a entire game. But it wouldn’t hurt to see more Woolsey so the coaches have a better idea what they have at QB going into this season. Woolsey might impress at practice but he still didn’t against Fresno. Also came into game for a Wild Cat play in another game and the ball got hiked and hit the WR in motion. Those are small things where experience can pay off…

  48. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:53 am

    # 44 – Urban legend – no truth to the matter. I sat innocently on a tree, as if to hug it, especially because it was nice shade, and somehow, yellow journalist and slanderer Stephen Tsai turned it into another matter entirely. I played along out of pity for the host here, and other posters took it and ran. They’ve been obsessed ever since. Kind of sad actually. I am not nearly that interesting.

  49. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 11:56 am

    Pono – even if I wanted to, I can’t lift a leg high enough any more.

  50. PONO February 28, 2014 12:03 pm

    DPK- Funny stuff. If you really want to mark it just squat and go 2. No one will near that tree haha and you don’t have to lift a leg.

  51. Andrew February 28, 2014 12:18 pm


    One win is nothing to celebrate of course we all know, but I think starting SS at the end of the season was the right move, even though probably starting a younger QB would have been smarter for the future in getting someone like Woolsey more experience. Like you said SS gave them the best chance to win, and the program needed the wins badly. They of course were in a lot of close games in the 2nd half of the season that could have gone either way, but had they lost that last game to Army, although it would have been only a 1 win difference, I think it would have had a much bigger impact than we think. Everyone has their opinion, but to me going 1-11 is a lot different than going 0-12.

  52. Jman February 28, 2014 12:27 pm

    Patience is a virtue ? Come on Tsai ! Ching Field project is a disgrace such a small structure that took sonogram to build and guess what the contactor still ain’t finished. Poor building project management couples with a incompetent contractor and subs make for waste of public tax money. This is unacceptable. Or should I say normal if UH administrators are involved !

  53. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 12:36 pm

    Good point, Andrew. And look at where SS ended up statistically by the end of the season. I’m sure that point wasn’t lost to some of the new recruits we have. The great competition we are headed for at QB is due to the fact that players can see the potential for their own futures. I’m just wondering how Wittek is going to get a good overview of the QB competition after spring practice, for some of the schools he’s interested in.

  54. Andrew February 28, 2014 12:41 pm

    Plus I really liked that never give up attitude that the football team had. Yanking SS and playing Woosley or whomever for the future would be like giving up on the season. They were obviously not going to win the conference or go to a bowl game but they still they had games to play and they played to win. It wasn’t the most desired outcome but they fought until the end. I think had Chow made that decision also it sends the wrong message to the team. He would be basically saying indirectly that he has given up on that team and already playing for next season.

  55. steve February 28, 2014 12:52 pm

    If one attributes a 1 win season to QB SS’ limited ability when he was leading the team to put up 30 plus point a game, that’s nonsense. It was’n’t SS and the Offense that was losing the games, it was defense and special teams…not getting it done. When UH puts up 50 plus points and still looses, that says it all right there.

  56. jeezy33 February 28, 2014 12:53 pm

    54. It’s not yanking… Called platooning. I mean maybe some fans enjoy moral victories but its clear that the team has to be prepared to win for this coming season from a business perspective. Or fans are not going to buy tickets and we will continue to have bigger debt.

    I really don’t want to hear excuses personally in 2014 about Woolsey lack of game experience if things go bad. If Woolsey is your choice, he needs to deliver. Hawaii had a chance to give him game experience in 2013 is all I am saying. He didn’t have to start. Fans/consumers don’t want to hear excuses… I as well as most fans on this blog are going to continue to buy tickets and support the team regardless. But I am speaking of those fans who are in the middle and will buy tickets only if the team is performing. We need those fans back.

    Hawaii is going to have a good defense in 2014. I have no doubt about it. I just have no idea what to expect of our offense considering our QBs have next to 0 experience and we might get a summer transfer QB who will have very minimal time to get accustom to the new offense and players..

  57. jeezy33 February 28, 2014 12:59 pm

    55. Clearly not reading correctly. No one is blaming SS. It’s more along the lines of preparing some of the younger guys who will be important pieces to Hawaii in 2014…

    A lot of teams run a 2 qB system in order to get younger guys experience…

    Ex. South Carolina. Spurrier was high on Connor Shaw as a FR. He had a proven QB in Stephen Garcia. He platooned in order to give his QB experience. And they were a winning program. Duke has Renfree and played Anthony Boone still. Urban Meyer platooned Tim Tebow when he had Chris Leak. Notre Dame even mixes it up at times.

  58. Andrew February 28, 2014 1:01 pm


    I agree, if they choose Woolsey it should be because he is the best QB to lead the team to vistory. I personally am not a big Woolsey fan. He has good potential and skills but I’m just not buying into him being the guy for the team. If he turns out to be the starter that is chosen though, I will back him up and root for him 100%.

  59. Andrew February 28, 2014 1:03 pm


    Platooning is tough though. It can either work really well or can backfire very easily. Like in USCs case, I think he took too long to decide on his starter and playing both in the beginning hurt them more than helped.

  60. jeezy33 February 28, 2014 1:06 pm

    59. Hawaii was 0-6… How much tougher could it get…. If Woolsey was such a big drop off to SS, then I think we have our answer as to what we need to do about QB situation in 2014….But my point is if ST says Hawaii is VERY HIGH on Woolsey, then he should be able to go into a game and perform at a high enough level where the drop off isn’t big.

  61. jeezy33 February 28, 2014 1:09 pm

    You guys need to remember that this was the QB depth chart after fall camp.
    1. Taylor Graham
    2. Ikaika Woolsey
    3. Sean Schroeder

    So even coaches mistakenly evaluate their own QB situation incorrectly based off practices… The only way to truly know what you have in a player is to throw them info the fire at game speed sometimes… Practice All Americans don’t win games.. Also known as gym fighters.

  62. A-House February 28, 2014 1:21 pm

    speculate – speculate – speculate – you can do that forever

    only thing solid about UH starting QB for 2014 is that whomever is chosen, it will be the 3rd consecutive untested QB for Chow in his first 3 years as HC

    that is NOT speculation – only fact!!!

    wonder what game plan is in place to give more playing time to the 2nd and 3rd string players to allow for more experienced players at all positions? but, this is true for almost all football programs including the NFL

    say, if you platoon all players you would not have the problem of efficiency IF they practiced it daily – is this speculation or a plan to upgrade players?

  63. Buffoman February 28, 2014 1:42 pm

    While winning helps put buns in seats, Hawaii is a bit unusual in that we can be winning and people do not create sell out situations, even if the opponent is a marquee one. Look at UH basketball. They are near a 20 win season and the SS is not sold out. And that’s only 10k.

    Even if Chow’s teams win, the stadium will not be filled.

    It will take more than winning (although it helps, I won’t discount that) to fill venues. The marketing folks have to think outside of the box. Maybe line up sponsors to have a car giveaway at the end of the year, trips to Las Vegas, concert tickets to the next big concert, etc..

    The old days in Hawaii when winning filled seats does not appeal to the new generation of “fans”, the old guard will come when winning and grumble and leave when losing, but that marginal fan, who UH wants to make a die in the wool fan needs a different kind of hook to come, a different kind of incentive to stay and a different one to return.

    Winning will build a small base, but to fill the venue with new, marginal spectators (not fans), more marketing in a creative way needs to be done. Oh, and that by the way not only takes creative thinking, but risk taking and dollars.

  64. A-House February 28, 2014 1:45 pm


    I know you were joking when you called a certain blog host a “slanderer” – “your tree” is becoming vey famous! been a long time since I attended practice and hope to make it again – some day

    hmmm, Webster’s New World Dictionary define slander” 1. the utterance of a falsehood damaging to a person’s character or reputation: cf. LIBEL 2. such a spoken falsehood –vt. to utter a slanderous statement about”

    reminds me of a party I attended and this drunk guy kept making statements about another person who was not in attendance and word got back to him – guy sued the “loud mouth” for libel and slander and won.

    ok, back to regular programming – I think Woosley (sp) should be selected #1 going into Spring and Fall practice and Reilly should be given a copy of the playbook now so he can be up to speed when he arrives in June – he can “visualize” the plays at home, at a field, or where ever he chooses to visualize – even while running he can visualize doing an option play or lifting weights to strengthen his arm ( throwing a deep pass to a receiver )

    but, hey, I’m not the coach – only an fan

  65. HALEAKALA February 28, 2014 1:50 pm

    Buffo: In the old days, we did not have such a thing as pay for view so that fans can sit in the quiet luxury of their living rooms to watch the game and drink cheap beer. Well in the old days when we were going to Honolulu Stadium we could not even get live mainland games on TV. Times are different than before.

    Maybe there should be a secondary head count which takes into account the number of pay for view fans that watch each game.

  66. Inyoface February 28, 2014 1:51 pm

    When the schedules tough, people complain. When the schedule is weak, they still complain.

  67. tommui February 28, 2014 1:57 pm

    I apologize to DPK.

    Do not use his tree!

    The tree next to his needs the fertilizer.

  68. Bulla aka Rev Bu February 28, 2014 1:57 pm

    aloha to all the Tsaikos,

    had the pleasure of seeing koakane, pomai, and i think ralph at the women’s bb game last night at the SSC. from our seats they all looked great and in good spirits. our daughter sang the national anthem and hawaii pono’i so we were able to sneak into the arena unnoticed.


  69. Bulla aka Rev Bu February 28, 2014 1:59 pm


    are you going green at Spring practice? sounds interesting at the very least, i might have to find my way to the field with you per chance

  70. Inyoface February 28, 2014 2:01 pm

    Is the placekicker position open?

  71. A-House February 28, 2014 2:06 pm


    # 65 – hmmm, wonder how tv networks can determine how many tv sets on the mainland are tuned in to watching a UH game being played on the mainland (if it’s on TV) and Hawaii? maybe, the network can flash on the screen a message like if you are watching this game send us a tex or twit or call this #.

    someone once blogged that certain houses are selected to be the “eyes and ears” of networks and the family selected are sworn to eternal secrecy and this is the only measure for them which can be totally off-base if the family does not watch sports at all

  72. Da Punchbowl Kid February 28, 2014 2:15 pm

    This is what I mean about “obsessed”.

    And Colonel, would love to see you at practice. 😉 You can help fend off these cyber bullies! 😆

  73. Buffoman February 28, 2014 2:19 pm

    #65 I agree with that point, but back in the day, when we were younger we made sports a big part of our lives. Today’s young people do not see it the same way. Just drive by Moiliili Field of a Saturday and it’ll be empty. When we were kids, any open field was a calling card for a pick up football game (especially when it rained) and baseball season we all went to play. From as young as I remember through HS.

    We became the fans because we grew up with this stuff. The young ones don’t do that. I remember once when I first coached what stunned me was that a kid ready to go into a game asked for and got some deodorant and sprayed it on before entering the game. Huh?!?

    To be stink and sweaty was an weapon as nobody wanted to rub against you. Today, got to look good and smell good.

    Different times, different generation, but old folks are on fixed incomes or maybe don’t get out and around as much. There’s a need to engage the new “fan”, or maybe, the next step would be, no need seats and a stadium, everything can be “streamed” to a mobile device.

  74. al February 28, 2014 2:22 pm

    ahouse…as in life, military, and football, woolsey or any other qb hopeful will have to earn his stripes in r
    on the battle field. nothing will be handed to someone.

  75. al February 28, 2014 2:30 pm


  76. Down with... February 28, 2014 2:41 pm

    63.You don’t need to fill the entire stadium or SS, just get the place rocking. For the stadium it is almost impossible for it to sell out no matter what team was playing (1975-2013), there were only a few games where I think the stadium filled to capacity and those were in the 80’s and early 90’s, I believe (maybe in 2007-2008 also). We don’t need to sell out every game, no MWC or WAC team can fill out a 50K stadium every game, not even Boise (30+), I think the average for Div 1 is around 45K, MWC was at around 30K+, just get more people to the stadium and it will be rocking….remember the Fresno game this year the place was going off and had maybe 14K+ by the end of the “almost” comeback win

    Winning does help and is the single most important factor in filling seats. Marketing and gimmicks will bring in people but not to the level of selling the place out and it won’t make them mainstays (maybe some). Yes this generation of fans are different than yesteryears…especially with the comfort of my own home, lua and couch to watch the game on my clear LED TV with replay and record options….not too mention cheap beers and a smoking section not halfway down the entry gates…so what does this all mean….WIN and the seats will start to fill again, the hype will be “to be there in person” versus watching on the TV again, throw in some gimmicks, tail gating events, and fun half time events and things should start to turn….if the team does better, that is. We just got to start Winning!

  77. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 2:59 pm

    Haleakala… if have a cable.. they will know how many sets are turned on me thinks.. n what they are watching..n if roof top antenna.. then it is all free.. n cannot trace unless you are one of the ones for which ever company is keeping tract..

    buffoman…ur last paragraph me not agree with.. but the rest is spot on..
    not take much risk or dollars to offer seats in yellow section half price or kids in pop warner jersey..or to military with id..or to seniors with id…the idea with the kids are.. parents have to bribg them to the gams.. so maybe 2 or 3 tickets sold n one given away.. manawahi…seniors n military.. is for the most part …they will not attend by then selves.. so they will drag others along with the military…seniors.. maybe bring the grand kids etc…

    hjaleakala…”Maybe there should be a secondary head count which takes into account the number of pay for view fans that watch each game.” yea the break even point must also consider the moola they are taking in from PPV…BUT JUST..IF THEY EVER think outside the box.. a full stanley.. n a filled stadium.. they be sitting pretty as far as money goes…/IMUA QB’S

  78. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 3:12 pm

    DOWN WITH.. ME SO MUST DISAGREE WITH YOU… ne marketing manager.. will say.. i canm fill it.. then do a whole bunch of things to try his/her best to do just that..n for me it can be done..
    you must make it not just a football game.. but an “experience.. when you want just pizza …you go to pizza hut… when you want pizza n a “experience” you go to shakeys…that is marketing big time…

    it does not take much to fill murakami.. stanley…but pray please tell me… who up there in that inadequate ad office is trying.. you see them reaching out to the community 4 help ?? me say this over n over… mr. jay cant do it.. they need a marketing manager.. his background is “numbers” so close the yellow section.. n the numbers will look good..instead..of trying to fill it…

    you are right haleakala… we need more non “bleeding green fans”… to build our base.. ios thje only way it will get done…IMUA

  79. A-House February 28, 2014 3:20 pm


    but al, is there not an “anointed” person as the #1 QB going into spring and fall practice?

    since the “dead time” before Spring ball – no player can “earn his stripes”, yet the coaching staff always has a depth chart to follow – and I agree with others that they do overlook some because of “whatever”

  80. A-House February 28, 2014 3:21 pm


    to control the “cyber bullies” I will bring a certain friend who always told me to call any time I need assistance – he/she will be jonny on the spot!

  81. A-House February 28, 2014 3:24 pm

    Shakey’s Pizza:

    OMG, that was the rockin place back then, great pizzas, and pitcher full of beer!!!!!!

    good ole jolly times – and, unfortunately, too many!

  82. wafan February 28, 2014 3:25 pm

    Those bullies better watch out or Mrs. A-House will get involved.

    Good evening, everyone!

  83. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 3:27 pm

    there are so many negatives there at the stadium…. admission.. cost of concessions..parking.. women’s rest room..long lines.. no one is addressing these problems..

    first UH have to take over the stadium. ..then many things can be get it filled…

    IF MR. ELLISON BOUGHT OUT A GAME.. N ALL tickets were free.. do you remotely think a female would go.. knowing them lines are long when it is half filled.. now with free tickets.. she will miss the whole 3 n 4th quarters maybe..he he he ask ur wife n see her response?

  84. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 3:32 pm

    yea a house.. sum one had a marketing plan. n sold u n friends on it.. n now maybe ur paying for it huh he he he..

  85. A-House February 28, 2014 3:34 pm


    I have seen all too many silver spoons handed out without the person “earning” his stripes/place be it in school, in the Army, on the field –

    My friend went to Notre Dame with some ‘rich boys” from Texas who were handed silver spoons from their fathers – unfortunately he was not from a wealth family and from time to time they, Texas rich boys, would call and tell him send $500,000 on this oil venture in South America

    how many times in the insurance industry I see fathers handing over the company to sons who have little or no experience

    also saw this at a local bank where the daughter was some computer wiz in Frisco and came home to be the EX VP and part of her responsibilities was to “guide” an insurance agency – zero experience!!!

  86. Down with... February 28, 2014 3:38 pm

    78: have you been to Shakey’s recently? what’s the experience? video games/tickets/ and prizes? that MAY have been the hot item say 20-30 years ago, but don’t see the BIG TIME marketing you speak of…as of late Shakeys is down from 200+ restaurants to maybe 50 or so throughout the US (to my count, they’re not doing very good in MARKETING, probably because people rather just eat pizza at home). Like I said, marketing can help, but it won’t turn the turnstiles to equal sold out stadiums, or mainstay “bleed green” clients…you have to WIN, period with and exclamation point, THAT IS the marketing tool right there. that’s all I was saying….not arguing with you as I know many marketing managers who will THINK they can sell a place out, but of them very few if any can Actually sell the place out. Yes the SS, Les Murakami, etc maybe easier due to size, but still you need a winning program bottom line….and I won’t even go into the mess that’s running the UH show…Win and there will be more people in the stands, lose and well….it is what it is.

  87. Down with... February 28, 2014 3:56 pm

    Professional teams have empty stadiums and they have some of the best marketing pros around….but it’s hard to sell a losing product…

    Don’t get me wrong I bleed green….I sit in that seat win or ass whooping. But there are only about 14-17K of us (as can be seen at every home game the past several years), the rest just found other things to do with their money on a Saturday night

  88. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 3:58 pm

    down with.. not been in shakeys in usa for centuries… he he he.. but what you just described 4 me.. is exactly the same problem at UH…WHERE IS THE NEW BLOOD AT SHAKEYS.. WHERE IS THE NEW BLOOD AT UH…missing as in no action..
    n by ur admission.. the turnstiles will turn when they are fielding a winning team..
    but that will not fill it as so you pointed out.. so with that you need a marketing fill only half..
    lets say kpoi n tom moffat n mr. jacobs were in there prime now…i have no doubt in my mind.. that they would fill it..
    top of my head here.. have a dance maybe after the game.. can that be worked out..say in the parking lot.. with a stage there ? if uh ran the stadium it could be done..

    sure some of ur ideas would work.. but you need a captain at the helm for the stadium.. n a numbers man aint gonna do it..

  89. al February 28, 2014 4:00 pm

    79… if you were the hc and you know you need to have one more qb by fall camp and you are trying to convince at least one prospect to become a rainbow warrior.

    are you going to name a #1 before you receive a commitment?
    or after the competition in fall camp?

  90. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 4:10 pm

    yea me agree with you there… but they still do.. plus have to consider the cost of a ticket.. every major league ball club has a promo staff.. n many seats are empty also.. but my point.. not gonna be done with a ad.. whose background is numbers… no offense mr. jay…first have to get the stadium in UH name..or we will flounder…cuz the more they do to fill the profits go else where..
    nebraska has no need for a marketing manager.. cus been sold out for eons.. yet still seats are empty at times.. but paid 4..

  91. leron February 28, 2014 4:20 pm

    OCSports renews it’s TV contract with UH :

  92. Down with... February 28, 2014 4:23 pm

    Again St Anthony Trojan, not arguing the fact that Marketing can’t bring in new clients and maybe a few mainstays….never argued that point, I totally agree something new needs to happen to get the new young fan base in. I agree having events, tail gate parties, free admission, concerts whatever it is…is a plus to increase turnstiles. But in the end, a winning team will promote way more turnstile counts over the long run, than any losing team with great marketing managers and gimmicks. And really doesn’t have to always be a 10-2, 11-1 type team (although that would definitely help) it can be a 7-6 team but those 6 loses better have been at least entertaining or pretty damn close loses. and we better at least go bowling at our own home bowl….Speaking of bowls-smokeabowl! Go Bows, Warriors, and Go St Anthony Trojan reppin the Warriors in the PI

    the student section being empty these past several years doesn’t help either, boycott or not, that’s just plain ridiculous….that should never happen.

    it’s all good peace be with you…

  93. whitey February 28, 2014 4:46 pm

    ain’t political correctness great???

  94. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 4:51 pm

    yea.. n so easy to fill also… just take 3 people.. go to ne studentn ask… would you like free tuition for one semester..or 2 semester..

    the catch.. just attend a basketball game or baseball game football game etc.. n one lucky winner be drawn for that.. n if basketball .. all you have to do is hit a 3 pointer… 3 times in a row..or a 90 ft putt..(for the weak he he) n it is urs.. they can attend 4 free..n who knows they may enjoy the game n find a new form of entertainment..n all for only about 500 bucks…the a hole in one at golf tournament.. gosh have a gazillion things you could do to get people out..especially students there that live in dorms…ha can imagine ..that place would rock..during half time.. n so very easy to do… what say you mr. jay ?? is that something ur marketing dept can handle??…if is football have busses there to take students… make it easy n they will come..

    you be in charge down with.. u have very positive ideas.. he he he.. hope we can meet when me there in sept or oct… i think just u n me we could fill that stadium he he

  95. kawika49 February 28, 2014 4:56 pm

    Having the games start at 5:00pm with a concert after, by whomever would be nice. Would cut down on the traffic after the games.

  96. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 4:56 pm

    forgot… could hit a apple on our fearless leader head tsaiko here…say with a spear gun from half court.. that would work also he he he

    in serious… so many things can be done with insurance.. n sum pretty crazy..but fun to watch for all..

  97. kawika49 February 28, 2014 4:57 pm

    Or visa versa.

  98. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 4:59 pm

    kawika spot on… see what happens when people up about ideas..
    maybe even a numbers man.. will have a few ??

    or maybe TM as the designated spear gun shooter.. surely he has a steady hand ??

  99. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 5:02 pm

    whitey.. maybe so…. not here.. but cultural shock 4 me.. when me got here a few years ago.. n see ads.. women under 25 need not apply..n these are government ads…private ones are more restrictive…

  100. whitey February 28, 2014 5:03 pm

    sa trojan, been to an SM mall lately?? Before entering, men (boys) go through one door, women (girls) go througn a different door. Wonda which door the gays go through??

  101. whitey February 28, 2014 5:04 pm

    sa trojan, thas why the americans call it a turd world. little do they know, but the filipinos call the americans, the ugly americans.

  102. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 5:07 pm

    there must be hundreds of lurkers here.. that have ideas.. is ok to share ur opinion..
    tsaikos not bite.. up.. no need type good.. be like me.. use one hand only ok.. just don’t say u went punahou he he he

  103. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 5:11 pm

    you all have a good day.. where ever u are…me will
    shut up 4 a while… should make sum happy i guess..
    but is the problem.. when u give a podogee a open this…he he he
    no offense to the leahey’s.. n our super linebacker coach..n the podogee speaking QB..if he decides on hawaii…IMUA

  104. whitey February 28, 2014 5:14 pm

    that’s why i luv the filipino culture. they don’t stick their nose into your business and tell you how to live, but respect and treat you as long as you respect their culture. remember, you are a guest in their country and american attitude ain’t going cut it there. some say money talks, bs walks, but in the philippines, money and bs can get you killed. culture shock occurs when in a foreign country, you think like an american. just go with the flow, baby.

  105. Derek February 28, 2014 7:10 pm

    When I think about the Hawaii QB situation, I think about the word “HOPE”. What QB will give us hope that we can win football games? First, eliminate Phillips. I certainly don’t expect to have him win the job. Next, Higgins. He’s played some. Started against Air Force the other year in a 21-14 loss on the road. He’ll give it his best as an incoming senior. I “hope” he does well. Next, Taylor Graham. He’s been hurt a lot. Strong arm, but his accuracy doesn’t grab me. His long passes are too long, and his short passes are often are going toward the ground. Next, Woolsey. Based on last years action, Woolsey didn’t exactly lit up the scoreboard. He was inconsistent throwing the ball and threw too many picks considering how man times he threw it. At this point, nobody has given me a lot of hope that a 6-7 or 7-6 record is in the offing. Wittek. Well, he has the measurables and the publicity and the pub as a recruit coming in. But at USC, he hasn’t shown that he is a big winner. Sat behind Barkley and lost his job to Kessler. There must be a reason there. So, at this point, I don’t want to get my “hopes” up. Then, there’s Beau Reilley. He’s an unknown quantity. We don’t know how he’s going to fare in the fall.

    It doesn’t look like a good picture that raises our “hopes” for a successful season. A good QB raises our “hopes” to win games. We can feel it in our bones. In the beginning, Schroeder didn’t give us much “hope.” As he played better last season, he raised our “hopes.” To raise the “hopes” of Hawaii fans, the “new” starting QB has to demonstrate to us that he can make plays. As a 3 year started, Colt Brennan showed us that his accuracy was uncanny and his penchant for throwing touchdown passes at record levels. He played so well for us that we felt we could win every game, and we did in 2007.
    With Brennan, even down 21-0 against Washington he and his team still gave us “hope” that we can come back. The rest his history.

    The only guy that maybe give me hope, to me, is Reilley. Because we don’t know how he will perform. The other QBs doesn’t me a lot of “hope”. Again, no knock on all of them, but my assessment is based on the lack of demonstrated very good performance and winning. That’s the bottom line. So, I hope Reilley can come in and surprise all of us. If not him, “hopes” for a successful 2014 is diminished and we have to wait for Aaron Zwahlen in 2015 and see if he is the Holy Grail.

  106. A-House February 28, 2014 7:12 pm


    why not?

    if the QB recruit feels that it is a deterrent, then he should not even consider attending UH

    if he feels UH should give him he “silver spoon” because of his prior “lofty ranking”, then I do not and cannot have confidence is such a athlete, but who knows what Chow will do.

    just like the “ring knockers” or West Point grads who flaunt around thinking and acting like they are the best because they are graduates – pissed many of us off cause we knew that we were better and could out perform them at most if not all assigned tasks/missions.

    is this the kind of “holy grail” you are looking for? if so, I will not support your “holy grail”.

  107. A-House February 28, 2014 7:26 pm

    I do hope that Reilly reads this blog – will give him something to think about and may even create a burning inside to endure quality training to show UH fans what he is made of and give us hope for 2014.

    Reilly, if you have not received your play book, contact Chow and persuade him to provide you one

    say, if you were the HC, player has signed a LOI, would you give him a play book in advance? if yes, you are a “progressive” thinker – if not, why? Coach, afraid player will give copies of the plays to others? if so and if player does it, pull the scholarship.

    players who receive play books during spring and fall ball can also make copies and distribute to others including conference foes – not a cool thing to do – violating the “trust” coaches have placed in you is cause for dismissal, if proven true!

  108. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 7:39 pm

    1-0 vs #3 UCLA at the Stanley. Go Bows!

  109. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:07 pm

    22-22 game 2

  110. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:11 pm

    2-0 Babyyyyyy!

  111. al February 28, 2014 8:42 pm

    mr. ahouse…very abstract thinking.

    i don’t believe you heard the same thoughts that i did as i wrote them.
    1. we don’t feel as confident with the list of qb candidates going into spring.
    2. we feel the need to go out and get more able bodied and able minded qb candidates.
    3. we understand that it is too late to bring in any candidates at this juncture.
    4. we therefore understand that additional qb candidates will have to arrive during the summer.
    5. we understand that after all the candidates have been evaluated it is then and only then shall we make logical choice.

    hence, we will not name a #1 qb until after fall camp
    (this the subliminal message that lay beneath post #89)

    …nuff said1

  112. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:44 pm


  113. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:47 pm


  114. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:49 pm

    Let’s Go Bows!

  115. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:52 pm

    Stand up! 25-24!

  116. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 8:55 pm

    Ahhhhh 2-1

  117. al February 28, 2014 8:56 pm

    …and furthermore, if we were totally confident that we have enough great and capable qbs now, why then did we go out and get beau reilly and now pursue yet another albeit a seasoned one.

  118. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 9:30 pm

    Aloha Ball………All Pau. Down goes #3!

  119. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 9:47 pm

    thanks 4 that up-date 3 prong..if they beat them twice.. will not change ne thing.. they are stuck at 11 for over a month now..

    whitey.. the ladyboys .. well me never followed one.. but maybe they just go straight over the table.. he he.. but sure feels gd sum times to feel a cute lady guard “grope” me.. he he he

  120. Inyoface. February 28, 2014 10:00 pm

    Kinda early to be predicting the starting quarterback.

  121. bowwar February 28, 2014 10:17 pm

    Dunno what else to say except that renewing “pay per view” is a mistake…Always was…We’ll never fill the stadium with ppv. Pretty sad!

  122. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 10:19 pm

    st anthony trojan: Easy, glad to know someone listening…hehe
    Hana Hou tomorrow!

  123. st. anthony trojan February 28, 2014 10:23 pm

    bowar… now more then ever..they need them bucks in advance i guess huh..
    seems from what me read on here.. oceanic not really doing a good job ?

  124. 3-Prong February 28, 2014 10:51 pm

    91 leron: Mr Bilangiardi (sp) not a happy camper tonite.

  125. Warrior Dave February 28, 2014 11:50 pm

    Congrats OC 16 for holding on the the TV rights. Now I hope you reassess your list of broadcasters. I cannot under stand the reason to have both Artie and Tony do color. Too much talking over each other and one is so superior to the other. I won’t say who is superior IMHO. I also hope they do everything possible to have Kanoa Leahey do as many broadcasts as possible. It’s only a matter of time until he goes national full time. But a game here and there is a treat for Hawaii fans.

    Lastly, I love Robert Kekaula but he cannot be so soft on Chow during Inside Access. Liz Chun was a harder interviewer when she had the show. She was awesome and someone should see if she would like to come back and host the show. It’s not a slap on Robert. Just trying to improve the program.

  126. kapakahi March 1, 2014 12:23 am


    Most of the “Home Team” engineering and production crew……left or were let go……and/or now work for Oceanic.

  127. wafan March 1, 2014 3:46 am

    Good morning!

    Another day of meetings.


  128. el burro sabio March 1, 2014 6:07 am

    Mr. A-House, isn’t that like giving battle plans and troop positions to someone who hasn’t yet reported for basic training? 😉

  129. tanman March 1, 2014 7:30 am


    Thanks for sharing the “Texas” article.

    I was talking to someone about Ben Jay’s plan to use the Stan Sheriff Center to compete with Blaisdell for non-UH events to generate additional revenues. I thought, make sense! Then, I heard a rumor that the Stan Sheriff Center is actually leaking and it will be tricky to fix because of the way it was constructed.

    The leak was reported on KHON early Jan:

    I “wonder” how much it will cost to fix this one.

  130. koakane ip5 March 1, 2014 7:36 am

    morning have a nice day

    #24 jm you come to mine I go to yours

    #33 kifi yep gone are the days of hooting with owls and soaring with eagles

  131. koakane ip5 March 1, 2014 7:38 am

    yes anoddah day of ummmmmmm


  132. Rodney March 1, 2014 8:06 am

    Aloha Mr Whittek!!!!!
    We need you and you need us!!

  133. kev-1 March 1, 2014 9:05 am

    Warrior Dave #125 . . . I agree with your comment. I can’t foresee any changes to the broadcaster assignments, because you and I both know how these things work. BUT, I hope they give it an honest look.

    Regarding Kekaula on Inside Access, I’m OK with him there. I don’t think Chow is the type to give tough questions any play anyway. He is pretty good at re-directing and being non-responsive at times. I do think that Kekaula adds a nice balance to the show and keeps things in perspective at times when us guys get carried away.

    Play-by-play? That’s another story. No disrespect, big guy.

  134. kev-1 March 1, 2014 9:06 am

    Wittek must be wondering “What the heck? I came to Hawaii and it feels like I’m in Seattle!”

  135. A-Housw March 1, 2014 9:21 am


    maybe, but the coach must have confidence in the player that he will not violate their trust in keeping the playbook close to the heart and the player must feel the same

    current players who are given playbooks during training can also “give away” information” as easily as Reilly.

    how would you feel if this happened to you?

  136. al March 1, 2014 9:49 am

    mr. ahousw…again, very abstract thinking.

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