No furlough

Kudos to linebacker Blaze Soares and center John Estes for organizing yesterday’s unsupervised players-only practice. The turnout was excellent, and, most important, it fostered team bonding.

The coaches were correct in giving the players time off, especially after having been on the Mainland for 17 of 23 days. But it was nice to see the players take the initiative to try to improve.


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Belated happy birthday wishes to Nalani Choy.

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What happens to former Roosevelt pep squad members? They become adorable bosses:



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One of our copy editors dropped fried rice on the ground. Our sports staff is waiting to see how long it will stay on the floor.



  1. PONO October 4, 2009 6:58 am


  2. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 6:59 am

    doze or tres

  3. wafan October 4, 2009 6:59 am


  4. wafan October 4, 2009 7:00 am

    Oh well . . . top 10!

  5. wafan October 4, 2009 7:01 am

    Happy belated birthday, Nalani!!!

    Wow, 28 already?!?!

  6. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 7:04 am

    Happy birthday to Nalani.Enjoy the day!

    Hey – top 10!

    Don’t forget ESME’s challenge!

  7. wafan October 4, 2009 7:07 am

    WSU is going 56 days between home dates at Pullman. Their record shows it.

    Who put UH’s 2009 schedule together — particularly the three straight road games?

  8. warriortranny2 October 4, 2009 7:13 am


  9. d1島 October 4, 2009 7:19 am

    Top Ten!
    Great Morning All!

    Belated Happy Birthday wishes to Nalani!

  10. d1島 October 4, 2009 7:19 am

    Great to hear there is some leadership in place on the team.



  11. βρεω808 October 4, 2009 7:24 am


  12. βρεω808 October 4, 2009 7:26 am

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  13. βρεω808 October 4, 2009 7:28 am

    Hey…. 🙄

  14. βρεω808 October 4, 2009 7:29 am

    ~~•~~~~•~~~~•~ ★ ★ ★ Go WARRIORS!!! ★ ★ ★ ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~

  15. whitey October 4, 2009 7:32 am

    Happy Birthday Nalani and have many more!!!!!!!!

  16. d1島 October 4, 2009 7:33 am

    Howzit βρεω808!

    No game this weekend. Missing the 100% Kona. 🙁

  17. d1島 October 4, 2009 7:36 am

    Part of coaching/teaching is giving your charges room to grow.

    I’m willing to leave open the possibility that Mack was giving the team some “space” for them to come together on their own when they needed to the most.

  18. 99club October 4, 2009 7:40 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Good point about the length away from home, ST. I imagine there were family considerations as well with the tragic events in Samoa.

    I’m stuck with either the Giants at KC or Oakland at Houston for early games choices. Ugh. Looking forward to tonight’s Pitt v. San Diego game.

  19. 99club October 4, 2009 7:41 am

    #12- Good ‘ting I get one wide screen for ‘dat one. 🙂

  20. 99club October 4, 2009 7:43 am

    games=game. Ai-goo.

  21. chawan_cut October 4, 2009 7:44 am

    this is the point in the season where we will remember this. it will make a difference.

  22. Committed Road Warrior October 4, 2009 7:50 am

    Currently have the ‘Skins-Bucs and Ravens-Pats games to choose from on local TV. Campbell has already thrown 2 INTs through 1.5 quarters of play.

    Now looking at my Fantasy Football team, looks like I forgot to acquire a new QB. Warner’s on BYE on Pennington is on IR. Oops. Looks like I’ll be chalking this week’s fantasy matchup as a loss.

  23. The Atitude Adjuster October 4, 2009 7:52 am

    Is WarriorTranny gurgling ? >>> “gg” He rises from a late night on hotel st.?

  24. EH NO MAKE ! October 4, 2009 7:59 am


    Thank you for your post regarding offensive coordinators. A few weeks ago I tried to make the same VERY valid points and some folks went all haywire. However, it’s a LEGITIMATE question that has an IMPOSSIBLE answer. NO WAY can three voices be heard and a play decided on in such a small time frame.

    It is I’m affraid, RIDICULOUS.

    ONE voice is needed, and STOP THE SHAM, this offensive by committee non-sense is an absolute farse.

    Clock management issues are VERY evident, confusion is VERY evident, the outcome is VERY evident. Remember third down near the goal line versus LA Tech, after 2 run plays came a fade, after a timeout, with the play clock almost expiring, UN-ACCEPTABLE.

    Head coach gets paid $1.1M, not his fault, can’t fault a guy for getting what he can get, but the school, Chancellor Hinshaw, HOW DARE YOU…
    How do you sleep at night knowing you are FLEECING the people of Hawaii in a time economic un-certainty…?

    $1.1M per season and THIS is what we have to show for it. It’s not about losing, because that is part of the game, that’s acceptable…it’s about competing and not embarrassing the home-folk. Well, that happened. Egg on all our faces.

    Fair question I think: How long will we (UH FOOTBALL FANS) stand for this…?

  25. tattoo October 4, 2009 8:05 am

    You have all earned a trip to my island.

  26. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 8:10 am

    How come the J-E-T-S/Saints game isn’t on TV today?

  27. warriortranny2 October 4, 2009 8:16 am

    i like my eggs in da mouth

  28. Slugger October 4, 2009 8:20 am

    Hau’oli La Hanau, Nalani!

    Great leadership, Blaze & John E., to pull together a practice.


  29. kokua October 4, 2009 8:24 am

    maybe the coaches needed the rest.

  30. Da Punchbowl Kid October 4, 2009 8:25 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Last week, many here wondered about why the Warriors were taking so much time off, and whether we had leadership on this team. Yesterday’s practice resolves both issues. Good for the team!

  31. Da Punchbowl Kid October 4, 2009 8:29 am

    Happy to see Kamehameha pull it off last night. Who was that young DB who intercepted for the Warriors late in the game? Micah Choy?

  32. Slugger October 4, 2009 8:30 am

    Good morning, everyone!

    Watching the NE-Baltimore game. Wish I had the ‘Bucs game on, CRW!

  33. NYUH October 4, 2009 8:32 am


    Good point about the clock management, but you get off track with your critique of the coach.

  34. Addahknowsports© October 4, 2009 8:32 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos and Tsaikettes!

    Happy Belated Birthday Nalani!

  35. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 8:35 am

    Remember when JJ abandoned ship? Program was in disarray and the recruting season was fast approaching?
    We needed a head coach really fast. We needed a coach that knew the program so that there would be no delay in continuity.

    We looked at the amount that a Head Coach gets all around the circuit.

    A decision was made – perhaps it was not the greatest decision in the world but Saban and those guys were not available and those that work for cheap didn’t meet the criteria of getting a captain that would save a floundering ship.

    The HC made a mistake – said some obscure word – and now his salary is less than a million (10% reduction).

    So I wish people would stop belly-aching. Hawaii has some great players.
    We have some that are not. It isn’t as if we were 10 deep in 4-5 star rated players.

    Give the coaching staff some slack – at least for another year. Again – physical superiority cancels all theory.

  36. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 8:36 am

    seven coaches were on the mainland recruiting, so UH wouldn’t have had much of a coaches-run practice the past couple of days.

  37. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 8:48 am

    When JJ was “debating” whether to leave, he had a $2 million a year offer on the table from SMU. UH was willing to pay up to $1.7 million per. JJ probably would have taken a little more than a $1 million per, but he wanted assurances of change.
    I don’t think UH really thought JJ would go. So the opening offer was $1.1 million. When the prez heard about that, he then pushed aside the AD and decided to negotiate himself. He then offered $1.3 m, 1.5m and then 1.7m.
    After JJ left, UH hired Mack. His opening request was to receive what UH’s first offer was to JJ — the $1.1m.
    UH said, OK. But it also changed the terms. Instead of half being paid by private donors (re: Na Koa), the entire amount would come from UH.
    Anyway, bottom line is that his request was within what UH had budgeted.
    It kept continuity.
    And the money isn’t coming from fans, well, at least not directly.
    It takes a while to build a program. Mack’s first recruiting year shouldn’t count, not with three weeks of lead time.
    So, he should be judged mostly on his work in season 3.

  38. d1島 October 4, 2009 8:53 am

    …and we got change.

    ….just gotta keep everyone believing in it. 😉

  39. Konaboy October 4, 2009 9:00 am

    Nice to see the boys taking the intiative. When does Rausch return?

  40. Don Weir October 4, 2009 9:18 am

    From Yesterday
    100th Celebration on December 2 sells both tickets and tables.
    Tables are $10k, $5k, and $2.5k.
    Individual tickets are $300 at whatever time you buy them. Many of us predict a sell out so a walk up ticket is not highly advised.
    Get a group of 10 together and then the ticket price drops as you get the table rate.
    Dick Vermeil as guest speaker, Robert Kekaula giving a video history of UH Football (thanks to Scott Kaulukukui for getting to me a 1947-48 game on DVD that has video/audio for Robert to splice in the program).
    Did anyone mention the beneficiary of this fundraiser? Na Koa.
    I believe that 40% of the net will go into the Na Koa 2009 fiscal budget and 60% will go into a new Na Koa endowment for future sustainability.

    For neighbor island and mainland Tsaikos, Sheraton Hawaii has some very good room rates for this function.

    For more information:

  41. A-House October 4, 2009 9:20 am

    Nalani, a most Happy Birfday to you and many more to come!!

  42. d1島 October 4, 2009 9:23 am

    For neighbor island and mainland Tsaikos, Sheraton Hawaii has some very good room rates for this function.


  43. A-House October 4, 2009 9:24 am

    Reading the morning paper:

    1) it was great to see Blaise and Estes “leading” the players – something that should have happened long ago!

    2) congrats to K.Mark Takai on his promotion to Major and seeing his pic in the paper with Afgan children.

    3) contrats to Coach Dana on her 2 most recent recruits – Adolpho and Haydel – excellent start to her 2010 recruiting class!!!

    also, kept my promise to Coach Dana by purchasing season tickets for Wahine BB.

  44. BowsForever October 4, 2009 9:27 am

    Maybe the “fair” thing to do is give Mack three years.

    But you know what they say about life.

    If the offense struggles under Moniz and the mistakes on defense and possibly coaching continue to add up, so will the scrutiny.

    Right now, it’s losing season and no bowl until the Warriors prove otherwise.

  45. BowsForever October 4, 2009 9:28 am

    Like I said before, it’d be awesome if Moniz turned out to be the next Rolo. But you have to be realistic, too. Recall Colt and the 5-7 season his sophomore year.

  46. jm2375 October 4, 2009 9:29 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!

    Happy Sunday!

    Happy belated Birthday to Nalani!

    Skins leading for the moment. Like bhf2’s better half, I’ve been a long time fan, but I’m ready to give up. I’ll come back when either Colt starts or ownership changes. Synder may not be as bad as Mr. Davis in Oakland but he’s close! 🙄

  47. PowderPuff October 4, 2009 9:31 am

    Haha, d1! I’m sure during those dates, “Brand H” has some great rates too. 😀

    Love the initiative of Soares and Estes to organize their own players-only practice. We need the team to bond now more than ever….

    ST – the J-E-T-S/Saints game isn’t on because it’s all about the COWBOYS! 🙂

  48. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 9:34 am

    ST: # 37 Right on!

  49. PowderPuff October 4, 2009 9:35 am

    I am exhausted from screaming at the computer over Jason Campbell’s woeful performance. BUT, ‘Skins may just pull it out.

  50. BowsForever October 4, 2009 9:41 am

    The Redskins somehow won. Improving from an atrocious to a merely lousy football team. Oh well, at least they’re .500 for now.

    I still wonder if Colt is the right fit for this team.

  51. A-House October 4, 2009 9:44 am

    Hawaii have many big and strong Poly players, but they have slow feet.

    How can this be improved? coaching/players techinque? Mental/physical connection?
    Practice, practice, practice or repetition, repetition, repetition? studying/anticipation of opponents moves? counter moves to this? a combination or all of the above plus more?

    Like LaTech, UH had 5 5th year seniors on the Oline, but Tech’s Dline was much faster while their Oline held off the Warrior defense. Question is: what does the “d” coach from the upstairs “box” see and what is relayed to the field and then to the players? Does UH have the correct personnel upstairs and on the field? Again, a young coach may have great vision/instincts/knowledge versus an older coach who may be “tunneled vision”.

  52. duffer (iPhone) October 4, 2009 9:46 am

    Hey Nalani…..

    Happy 21st!!!!

    How was the fair?

  53. SteveM October 4, 2009 10:01 am

    Good morning everyone!


    Congrats to Rep. K. Mark Takai on his promotion to major!
    (per A-House)

  54. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 10:10 am

    Morning all!!

    Jeeze.. when will people stop harping on how much Coach Mac makes.. or any other coach? It was budgeted and deemed fair by the UH Board. It is what is is. Football is a profitable sport, which means the money paid to the coaching staff is covered by the revenues generated. What other government post can say that? Furthermore, unless we drop to a lower division, whomever we get in the future as our football coach will be paid as much or more (probably more).

  55. ai-eee-soos October 4, 2009 10:10 am

    October 4th, 2009 at 9:41 am
    The Redskins somehow won.

    I still wonder if Colt is the right fit for this team….”
    – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –

    Bows – Right now, I think the Saints would be the best fit for Colt.

    He and Breese (sp) are similar – ACCURATE passing,

    and while irrelevant, about the same size.

    I like the Saints offense – attack- move the chains -score.

  56. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 10:21 am

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY NALANI!!! :mrgreen:

  57. A-House October 4, 2009 10:28 am


    your post #223 from yesterday – eh, you shoeah you neva live next door to me kid days? we did the same stuff to make speah and go poke fish – holehole, manini, etc.

    den, high school time, we used “pasture wire” to make our speahs, bigga plastic tubes, door hinge for da trigga, and 2×4 lumba for the handle (drill puka in the middle and makum kinda round)- then we went afta da big stuff – sometimes down to 30-35″ free dive – auwe, tho because nose bleed and sometimes blood from the ear. no wonda i sta all hommagaj today!!!

  58. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 10:28 am

    Since we’re not going to be undefeated this year and we weren’t last season, it’s gonna be the same crap just a different day from the same people…

    Some gonna harp on Coach Mack’s salary with relation to the win loss record and it’s going to never end and in the same return those same people are going to blame other fans for not pretending to be “watchdogs”.

  59. tattoo October 4, 2009 10:36 am

    we have exotic koolaid for our guests on my island.
    y’al will feel at home.

  60. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 10:37 am

    My questions on leadership have been answered.

    Sure Blaze and Estes, even Alexander, in the past, have done post game interviews and such, but while some of us go to practice, etc… No one not directly involved can really see the inner workings of the program, everything is assumption on our part, some right, some wrong.

    Good article today.

    Nice “fist-pounding” type stuff to read while thinking the same thing as a fan! :mrgreen:

  61. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 10:38 am


    thank you for your #37

    Made in Hawaii.

    my sentiments exactly.

    I’ll be da first to crack da slow pokes. trust me on dat. but I agree, gotta give da coach chances. he changed coaches this past year. that was a big positive.

    and its not like he was missing da tackles last Wednesday.
    he gotta get Ron and Rolo and Brian and Gordy on da same page.
    for one side.

    but I also know that you can take the exact same people and move em around and you get a better result. you just gotta have vision, and da
    visionees gotta believe in you. not talking about us here in da talk stink anytime anykinda wayz, da visionees i’m talking about are da coaches.

    I BELIEVE IN COACH MACK. I REALLY HONESTLY DO. Like ST said, he came along in da nick of time.

    Thank you Coach. Now go crack some heads.

  62. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 10:39 am

    Personally speaking… if this was 6 years ago and I was able to be a player on this team after a lackluster performance on Wednesday night… I’d probably make it my goal to injure someone of significance on Fresno State in the next game…

    That’s just me.

  63. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 10:40 am


  64. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 10:41 am

    brudda Kazz,

    wat happened to brudderly luv?


  65. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 10:41 am

    Michelle Wie: six birds, one boogie and two more holes to go.

  66. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 10:43 am

    Diogenes Sinope:

    October 4th, 2009 at 8:35 am

    So I wish people would stop belly-aching. Hawaii has some great players.
    We have some that are not. It isn’t as if we were 10 deep in 4-5 star rated players.

    Eh… some people automatically expect it without much thought. 1.1 million a year head coach = 11-13 wins a season INSTANTLY with no time for “turn around”. Instantly some people expect him to reel in ALL the top recruits in the state to a program that previously had not-so-good record of locally recruiting the top guys on a consistent basis with the previous coaching staff.

    Same s**t, different season.

  67. The Attitude Adjuster October 4, 2009 10:44 am


  68. Dirty Commish October 4, 2009 10:52 am

    Very awesome to hear about the personal acoountability the team leaders are taking. Having pride and taking it upon themselves address these tackling problems.

    And when Blaze speaks you better listen. What happens when you don’t? Nobody knows, because there are no survivors.

  69. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc October 4, 2009 10:54 am

    Thanks, Don, for the clarification regarding ticket prices. Hope that all goes well at the event.

    Unfortunately, whether it’s $250 or $300 per ticket, both are more than a little out of our Double A league. We’re still trying to deal with not just left-over medical bills but also reduced income from a year ago.

    That is the primary reason we volunteered to work on a different type of special event fund-raiser – using our time and talents instead of money to contribute to the program.

    CHANGE OF SUBJECT: Coach McMackin, along with all administrators at the University of Hawai`i on all campuses, took a 10% salary cut because of the state’s financial situation. Win or Lose – he would still have taken a 10% salary cut.

    The salary suspension following the remarks during the WAC press conference was directed only towards him. That ended in September.

    Off to work – back around 11 pm tonight.

  70. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 11:02 am

    Starting in the weight room, if the Warriors take up this training routine, NO TEAM WE FACE WILL HAVE A CHANCE!!!

    EURO TRAINING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Free weight EURO TRAINING:

    MORE free weight EURO TRAINING:


  71. EH, NO MAKE ! October 4, 2009 11:38 am

    How naive….

    Loike coach Mack’s $1.1M annual salary is meaningless, it’s EVERYTHING for crying out loud.
    In these economic times, seriously, $1.1M means nothing, wow, how naive.

    Is coach Mack the answer…? Well, let me see, his overall record 9-9 in two seasons, and THAT’S worth it to some of you…!
    Wow, such mild expectactions…..

  72. Not an Expert October 4, 2009 11:43 am

    Just an observation:

    Should Hawaii suffer a losing season its not hard to imagine the blasting the head coach and some of his staff will be laden with. True no one to blame but the coaches.

    The football program has been quite competitive for the type of budget it has. There are a lot of reasons why it is difficult for the football program to be in the top 15 every year. It has been there a few times over the last 20 years. The team has come a long way since the 60’s.

    If the leaders of the state, university and big business wants a top 15 team each year, a plan must be laid out and money committed. A plan that could be as far out as 10 to 15 years plus to accomplish and maintained.

    With all the studies that are made by the government and colleges around America has there ever been a comprehensive study made for Hawaii so that a blueprint for success as a top team year in year out can be achieved.
    There must be a process and formula that each football power follows and maintains. Generally most of us understand the ingredients. Money, facilities, athletes, coaches, historical appeal and great marketing.

    So is there anyone(s) out there in Hawaii that can take this undertaking and be that chef to blend these ingredients together to create a great football program for our state?

    If there will not be anyone in power to undertake such an endeavor, us fans should enjoy the wins and bear the losses with the utmost respect to the players and coaches. Yes we are entitled to our opinions.

  73. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 12:27 pm

    The only one naive is to expect two back to back 11+ win seasons when one season has NO returning starters on offense and the other season that isn’t even halfway done yet has NO returning starters on defense.

    1.1 million or not, let’s see someone else do SIGNIFICANTLY better with the same resources. Let’s see the evidence of written or recorded record of the same EXACT scenarios with SIGNIFICANTLY results.

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion and my opinion is idiots are born everyday and I’d hate to be the children of those with such lofty expectations without regards to facts.

    I can see it now… there’s that one kid out there that gets his wrists taped up together while “angry daddy” that got cut from his high school football team throws footballs at him after the game he lost forcing him to catch before he can eat dinner. 😆

  74. Willie October 4, 2009 12:43 pm

    Mentioned Wie’s MO this year on Friday and she choked on Saturday on command as usual. Yesterday mentioned she would shoot lights out 3 to 6 under as she was out of contention with no pressure. Today she shot 6 under to finish a respectible 2nd to Lorena Ochoa. Too bad she cannot break that cycle, but with school has very limited opportunities left this year.

    With Idaho beating a good Colorado State team does not seem to be any real breathers out there. Even Utah State is playing well. Only so called win at this point is NMSU, that’s it.

    Just want the team to play with pride, play hard, leave everything on the field. Really impressed with discipline this year, very few penalties. Go Warriors, cage da Dogs!

  75. Jn October 4, 2009 12:46 pm

    Fans need to stop defending Mac for his blundering inabilities as a head coach. Something is wrong when my wife can call better plays and she does’nt even watch football. For crying out loud he can’t even adjust to the situation at hand during the game when you know there going to run. Everyone is entitled to there opinion and mine is these coaches can’t change. In these tough times Mac is undeserving of a million plus salary. If JJ did’nt leave he would of found a way two have 2 more winning seasons so I can’t give a thumbs up or pass to the present coaching staff. If you say I’m too hard on them well we all should be because Hawaii football is our NFL. We need to demand better coaching because you can’t blame the kids, they do what the coaches teach. Anyone know how to get the point across to the coaching staff? Either shape up or ship out.

  76. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 12:50 pm

    i said this before,

    we’ve got geniuses for friends. we’ve got idiots for friends. we’ve got some people we’ll never please. we’ve got some people we’ll easily please.

    get some people who’ll boo you even if you gave their town the land and a school for free.

    thats because each of us are entitled to our opinion and can change our opinion in the blink of a win. in America, at least at present, you can speak your opinion, and disagree and agree whenever you want, for the most part.

    what is frustrating for the particular kool aid crowd of which i am a member, is that we got debacled da odda night. my face went from :mrgreen: to 😛 in da blink of a smashing, and dat no can, no can dat kine.

    i no a person who got arrested saving da drunken team members, and no one else got arrested. da arrest went away, da apology came, dare is no criminal record; but da main ting is dat da day was saved. 😀 a true story.

    c’mon Mack, you can save da day too. 😀

  77. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 12:56 pm

    im so happy to see the team out there practicing on their own! looking forward to saturday.

    go warriors!

  78. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:02 pm

    i know if i was a Warrior today I’d hope my fans would be talking like they backing me up through this season.

    and Id hope that those who talk $h*t about my team would have the guts to let me know who they are, so that I can see all da agendas, so I can decide fo myself if da man is right. cus right now all i see is whats in front of my face. and in front of my face is FSU.

  79. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:06 pm


    changes come a little at a time. dats just how it goes. a little at a time.

    no can change da hole ting one time. some times a little change makes a big bang. but not all da time.

    patience grass hopper. :mrgreen:

  80. Jn October 4, 2009 1:15 pm

    Just as I expected, the truth hurts and no ones blaming the warrior that puts on the pads. I better watch out I’m getting rounded up by the blog police.

  81. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:28 pm


    you ain’t getting rounded up, and i’m farthest from being a blog policeman. I’m just saying, who am i listening to?

    if you wuz a Cal Lee, I’d be saying, sheesh, I’d better listen. and plenty of us would be saying the same thing.

    maybe its too early for us to be saying Identify Yourself.
    by the same token its too early for any of us to be hammering the coach. Timing is everything. Now is not that time. IMHO.

  82. wafan October 4, 2009 1:29 pm

    DPK was right.

  83. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:31 pm

    by the way, never played organized football in my life.

    biddy boxing. 😀 street fighting 😀 talking 😀

    and a long time UH Warrior football fan. 😀

  84. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:34 pm

    by the way,

    I like the coach because he talks like me. 😀

    very eloquent.

    just ask da Notre Dame peeps. :mrgreen:

  85. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 1:35 pm

    an i hear he can kick in da locker! mean!


  86. Jn October 4, 2009 1:46 pm

    You know what, I am just a fan and I have been watching UH since I was a Keiki born and raised Hawaii. Went to St. Louis High School and I know the Lee’s. I am just giving my opinion. I am an old local too. Just because I no speak da pidgeon doesn’t make me less of a UH fan. I respect everybody’s opinion just giving mine.

  87. postmanke October 4, 2009 1:48 pm

    heck give em 2, 3 or 5 years. from day 1, I still believe Mack was in the right place at the right time. I dont care, you “believers” can get pissy. =) BUT if he HAD not been at UH that year he would have not landed the head coaching position. For consensus purposes, If we were to put out a mock posting for a Head Coaching position at UH today would the army of applicants be tempting enough to question do we truly have the right coach? I like to to go the by the old adage; “if you gotta ask, the answer is usually no”

    Is he worthy of what is considered the zenith of college coaching, (Div 1A football coach position) at that salary and at the “learning the head coaching role” at UH’s expense? I’ll leave that to speculation. The way its looking, I’d be talking exit strategy vs contract extension. His legacy is on the short side of “there’s a long way to go to tell” if he is good D1 coach. And my guy feeling still tells me that we landed the Don Strock of college coaching. ~ great back up and assistant but could never put it together as a starter.

    just my opinion, because 2 years ago I knew this conversation would be coming up..

  88. CouchP October 4, 2009 1:53 pm

    Props to Warrior Team for practicing, shows leadership and unity that is sorely needed as the team moves forward against Fresno State. One game at a time.

  89. Unkanesson October 4, 2009 2:10 pm

    Howzit Tsaiko Nation!
    I was away from the computer this week ’til Thursday (when I had the morning after LaTech hangover). Just now getting caught up with all the blog comments. Here are a few opinions to add to the discussion.

    The QB situation — Best wishes to GA for a successful recuperation and transition to his post-football life. Mahalo Greg for all the effort and commitment you gave to the Warrior football program! And I have to say I saw some very promising things in Bryant Moniz during the 4th Quarter at Ruston. Most impressive to me is his throwing mechanics — he has a very quick release and, when protected, throws a nice accurate catchable ball. He’ll get better with more time on the field.

    The coaching situation — I count myself among those willing to give Coach Mack some time to turn the Warrior battleship around. Especially having lost 2 captains (Brashton and Alexander) and both starting DE’s, not to mention his starting QB and possibly others (Laupepa?). Injuries are part of the game, but this is an exceptional casualty list for a coach to deal with in a mid-major program where depth isn’t all you’d like it to be. I too am concerned about clock and other game management issues. I am hopeful that the coaching staff will learn from their mistakes and eliminate these issues. If they continue next year, then UH will have to consider alternatives such as not retaining the present staff. It’s premature to do that now.

    JMHO. To Jn and others who assert that their posts are somehow more than that (“…the truth hurts…”), I say your OPINION is no more or less valid than mine or anyone else’s on this blog. That ho’okano attitude that what you say is “truth” is what rubs us the wrong way. Consider: when you say “…you can’t blame the kids, they do what the coaches teach…”, I’d say you CAN blame the kids — there were numerous situations in which the “kids” failed to perform their assignments. The coaches can only teach and motivate, then it’s up to the players to learn and do. So you have one opinion, I have another. That’s all it is. Truth will be determined in the future, with the benefit of sufficient hindsight, by those who have ALL the information, which is not you, not me, none of us (except maybe ST). Try relax. Ho’omanawanui.

  90. d1島 October 4, 2009 2:23 pm

    These flashes of pink on the screen all day keeps making me think something is wacky with the color adjustment on my TV.
    Is this gonna last all month in the NFL? 🙄

  91. d1島 October 4, 2009 2:25 pm

    Still recall watching Mendenhall’s 40 video from the combine last year….scary! 😯

  92. Derek October 4, 2009 2:31 pm

    Holy Wolfpack!!!!! Nevada slaughtered UNLV yesterday scoring 63 points with 773 total offense and 559 yards rushing! Does that spell trouble for the Warriors? You betcha! The weather will be cool to cold in Nevada when the Warriors play them, but the pistol will be blazing hot!
    I can’t wait to see that game. UH’s problems can be traced to 2 things, the lack of a good offensive and defensive lines. Period. In any football endeavor it all starts w/ the line. Either you push the other guys back or not. You can’t say experience, but I think experence is overrated. I gotta believe the talent level is not what it should be and thats a result of
    not so good recruiting. You can’t put the blame on Gordie Shaw because he just joined the staff this year, but I hope Coach Shaw can recruit some good offensive line players for the future. Defensively, we don’t have the pass rushers that we’ve had in the past. I seem to recall a number of years ago what Punahou Aina said….”Things can’t be any worse.” I hope so.

  93. Unkanesson October 4, 2009 2:32 pm

    A couple of further thoughts:

    ST — Thanks for your insights regarding the QB situation’s recent history (yesterday’s post). That kind of background information is so valuable to us in understanding what’s going on with the program, and I think gives some validation to the job the coaches are doing. Also I agree with your comments about giving the players a break, and the players’ self-motivated response. Good signs, I think.

    And I just have to get this little rant off my chest — watching the ESPN telecast from Ruston, I got so p.o.’d with the announcers during the ten minutes (or so it seemed) with Karl Malone. They were ignoring the game, sucking up to LaTech and Malone’s contributions to the program, and goofing around so much that I gave up on them, turned down the TV volume and listened to Bobby & Robert while I watched the game. The radio broadcast was delayed by about 10 seconds which was irritating, but not nearly as much as those ESPN babooses.

    Whew, okay I feel a little better now…I think I’ll go mow the lawn.


  94. d1島 October 4, 2009 2:36 pm


    Eeezee tygah!

    We go worry about da Wolf-snax bumbai.

    Da Fres-necks get plenny for think about now!

  95. d1島 October 4, 2009 2:43 pm

    …which, btw, I have full faith and confidence that after a quarter-and-a-half of attempting, with some success, to cram the ball down the UH defense’s throat, Pat Hill will start to have them throw the ball. At that point, things should get interesting….

  96. d1島 October 4, 2009 2:45 pm

    Boy, how good do the Steelers look on offense?

  97. A-House October 4, 2009 2:49 pm

    OK, OK, who the heck deleted my post regarding the QB situation at UH? I sent it and poof the magic dragon!!!!

    Will ever appear?

  98. NYUH October 4, 2009 2:50 pm

    1 Eric Decker, WR MINN 43 639 14.9 53 5
    2 Vincent Brown, WR SDSU 37 631 17.1 78 6
    3 Mike Williams, WR SYR 41 623 15.2 66 5
    4 Golden Tate, WR ND 33 602 18.2 77 4
    5 Greg Salas, WR HAW 26 601 23.1 66 4

  99. postmanke October 4, 2009 2:51 pm

    FSU 24 UH 38

    These are the types of games you want to play in and be a part of. These are they types of games you tend to find out your boundaries, your limits, your character. Never mind playing for the state. This game is for themselves, for the team and your coaches. You serve to the best of your ability in these type of games and end up “defining” your character. At the end of the game you usually find out you have not limits you have no boundaries.

    Man this is going to be a good game!

  100. The Attitude Adjuster October 4, 2009 3:08 pm

    Kazz, how many more years before you can vote?

  101. Don Weir October 4, 2009 3:11 pm

    In 1972 I was on a long plane ride home from Tennessee. We suffered a loss on national TV.
    Players on that plane were sore, hurt/injured, and in poor spirits. But as I look back on that loss I know that all of us played at 100% on the field. I know that the coaches gave 100% on the sidelines and up in the box.
    On Wednesday my fellow UH Warrior football bretheren had a long plane ride home. The conditions were much the same as in 1972. I can look at each player I saw in that game on Wednesday and I didn’t see less than 100% that was given on the field. I know the coaches gave 100% on the sidelines and up in the box.
    Warrior Football players you have your teamates; a call out to all former Rainbow Warriors and Warriors football alums & fans as well as current fans to let this team (players and coaches) know we have their backs.
    My bumper sticker on the truck says
    ‘I Support Warrior Football’
    This is not a conditional statement and it is not negotiable.
    Go Warriors!

  102. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 3:12 pm


    I’m inviting you t sit by me, CC orange, row 3. on da bottom to the right of the UH tunnel. demonstrate how fo yell up da troops.


    Fresno gonna have a bummer of a long night. get 3 big chances for fire up da coaches and Warriors. going out, coming in, going out.

    da mayor might not know my name, but dat bugga gonna no my face when he goes back into da tunnel all smiles!

    da firing it up starts right here.

    Go Warriors!

    pstt…. i’m still habut about LaTech.


    no worries. da pigeon is not wat i learned in school. years of OJT.
    you just gots to practice.


  103. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 3:15 pm

    Don Weir,

    good job Don!

    anna good speech too!

    Go Warriors!

  104. tattoo October 4, 2009 3:18 pm

    fresno state 0
    hawaii 3

    come to my island and your wish shall be granted.

  105. The Atitude Adjuster October 4, 2009 3:28 pm

    Ok. I’m an Mideot. You know what that means, ya?
    Ok, Let’s try Idgit. Are you getting warmer?

    I feel like a dope changing names to get my point across, but these are the times of hope and change, right? At least thats what I voted for. Reward the non-working.
    It’s not working.
    Should I try to stick to my gameplan with only one identity and emphasize my beliefs until the end? I’ll try better next time.

  106. royvic October 4, 2009 3:35 pm

    Re-UH is 61-2 since 2001 when the offense scores 34 points. That’s it 34 points.

    From 2001 til now UH is 61-2 when scoring at least 34 points. The 2 loses coming at the hands of Boise State in 2005, 2006 by the scores of 44-41 and 41-34.

    With this in mind wouldn’t it make sense for UH to play a no huddle/hurry up offense in getting as many offensive plays in a game and maximizing more scoring opportunities? Percentage wise doesn’t this make sense, especially when you calculate that UH is victorious about 96% of the time when it scores 34 points?

    This is what the Florida coach had to say about the no/huddle hurry up offense:

    “We want to make that part of our offense. Oklahoma did a good job against us using it, and we watched a lot of their film. … We’ve stressed that it’s our offense, it’s what we do. It’s not just something we fiddle around with.”

    “The no-huddle offense can make substituting difficult, can force defenses to stay in the same formation, challenges defenders to line up properly and has a tendency to wear down anyone unaccustomed to playing at such a frantic pace.”

    This is something I wish UH would unveil.

    From the historical perspective it would seem logical to strive on reaching 34 points a game.

    And playing quick, stretching the game clock and allowing your team more scoring opportunities would seem logical and gives the team a greater shot of winning.

  107. Don Weir October 4, 2009 3:36 pm

    Na Koa Update
    Tsaiko Fund Financials

    Deposits $1960 (double check with UHF to make sure all checks cleared will be done on 10/6/2009)

    Expenses $1354 (this represents two bikes)

    Shipping from LV to HNL as of yet not encumbered.

    $606 on the books as available.

  108. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 4:18 pm

    Every time I get stressed, I talk to my friend, Deb, who always says: What can ya do?
    No, the emphasis isn’t on: what kind of changes can you make?
    It’s more of a resigned: oh, well, what can you do. Basically, it’s the ol’: It is what it is, so deal with it.
    People can get mad. They can get frustrated. But the situation is the way it is. They’re not going to sign a new quarterback. Rausch won’t be back for at least another two weeks.
    So the best thing to do, for a Warrior fan, is to hope the Warriors improve their play. And things should get better now that they are past that ridiculous road schedule.
    What probably isn’t a good idea is to misdirect anger and frustration. If you’re mad at the team or play-calling, it really doesn’t serve any purpose to yell at another fan for being loyal. Well, I guess, that makes some people feel better.
    It reminds me of a co-worker. A bicyclist cut him off. So he starts swearing at the bicyclist. Only the window is rolled up. So I tell the co-worker: Really, I know this makes you feel good to vent, but because the windows are rolled up, you’re basically yelling at me. What’s the point?

  109. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 4:24 pm

    Here he comes
    to save the day
    that means that mighty mouse
    is on the way


    wat? you no believe in lil green fairies?


  110. bighilofan2 October 4, 2009 4:25 pm

    wish you guyz wuz here,

    i’d invite you to my nephews house

    we going pound da keg he just wen buckaloose.


  111. Da Punchbowl Kid October 4, 2009 4:29 pm

    # The Atitude Adjuster:
    October 4th, 2009 at 3:28 pm

    Ok. I’m an Mideot. You know what that means, ya?
    Ok, Let’s try Idgit. Are you getting warmer?

    I feel like a dope changing names to get my point across, but these are the times of hope and change, right? At least thats what I voted for. Reward the non-working.
    It’s not working.
    Should I try to stick to my gameplan with only one identity and emphasize my beliefs until the end? I’ll try better next time.


    Be who you are, come as a friend and fellow fan and forgive those of us who see things differently than you might. Changing nics diminishes the genuine-ness (not sure if that’s a word) of what the blog’s over all message becomes.

    Let’s face it. The Warriors are in a tough spot, and what they do in the coming weeks will truly define them as a team and as individuals. What is most important at this point is how they respond in the face of such discouraging adversity. How we respond as their fans will also define us. This doesn’t mean that you have sugar coat anything or censor your feelings. Just use the same rules that you would in the real world: respect for all, and a basic regard for others.

    Most importantly, don’t forget, that we are ALL Warrior fans here. Let’s enjoy that bond.

  112. Da Punchbowl Kid October 4, 2009 4:33 pm

    Mr Tsai-

    Where does the WB stand in terms of reader views per day/month/week. The last time you mentioned them the numbers were staggering…

  113. OldDiver October 4, 2009 4:33 pm

    Regarding #106

    This is the point I have been making since the end of the La Tech game. The defense did it’s job point wise, the offense didn’t do it’s job point wise. One would think since we pass almost every play a no huddle would be rather easy to implement. I always wondered what Rolo was telling Greg Alexander on every play. ” Throw to the guy you think will be open ” ya think?

  114. A-House October 4, 2009 4:43 pm

    My QB post dealt with having no “experienced” QB to start the season if Alexander went all the way in 2009.

    Then the injury to Rausch and finally to Greg himself ending his college career.

    Now, UH will have at least 2 or 3 experienced QBs going into the 2010 season with 3 redshirt QBs with 1 year under their belt.

    And, with the high school QB committing, Coach Mack’s recruiting/manpower plan seems to be solid for that position.

    Next step it to do the same for all the other positions and this has already begun with the current freshman/jc transfers redshirting and the commitment of the 2010 class.

    Give Coach Mack another 2 recruting years and he will have a talented team with capable back ups to the 3rd position. With the stability of coaches, they can now transfer their knowledge/widsom to the players.

  115. A-House October 4, 2009 4:47 pm

    U know it would be very interesting if all the “disappeared” posts whould appear on a blog years into the future and those reading it will say, “what the hell is this all about”?

    Generations down the line they will say “this is what happened to the Warriors in their ascent to national power”.

  116. Not an Expert October 4, 2009 4:50 pm

    Regarding the radio announcers.

    Could they ever do the play by play as close as it unfolds.

    Example a play is already pau and it could be for a 10 to 15 yard gain and a lst down depending on the noise of the crowd at times, you know what the outcome might usually be. Prior to that they could be discussing a thing or two and not allow the radio listeners to have a picture in their minds what could be happening on the field.

    Could they ever be like the announcers of 30 to 40 years ago when a play by play of football was in the moment.

    Example: Santos in the shotgun, he’s looking downfield steps up into the pocket fires a pass downfield to Salas who has it on the 30, he sidesteps the defender breaks away to the 20 15 10 5 touchdown!!!

    Today really not a play by play thing but a conversation by 2 announcers watching a game and telling us folks what has happened, not what is happening by the moment. Due to the technology today with everything on screen, the day of the radio broadcaster is a non exciting experience.

    I remember the days when a game was on TV and the radio broadcasting being substituted for the TV announcers. I guess a good exciting broadcaster on radio is a thing of the past. A last resort communication to know what’s unfolding by 2 spectators not realizing they should be broadcasters.

  117. Jn October 4, 2009 4:54 pm

    What I have noticed reading this blog is that I have no right to an opinion. Mr. Tsai, I am not yelling at anyone, I am not judging anyone for their opinions but it seems that even though I am not the only one frusturated about the coaching, I am the one that is being called out. Look how many times others have come directly after me by name and no one else who has the same opinion. I am a loyal fan and I have been since the 60’s on up and I always will be. I remember going to the games when I was young and the thrill of watching our team win. Over the years I have seen many changes and some were good and some were not. I am not judging the team, I just want to see a change in the coaching. I am tired of seeing us lose. I don’t see you telling others to stop going after those of us with different views. Isn’t this what it is all about? Diversity is part of growing up Hawaii.

  118. d1島 October 4, 2009 4:58 pm

    Shikata ga nai

  119. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 5:04 pm

    You can always say what you feel.
    Everybody makes good points.
    I don’t mind people speaking out. And I love good debates. I just don’t want people to get so worked up that it makes them all stressed. That can’t be healthy.
    I think critiques of coaches are OK, because they’re getting paid, but not so OK with players, because they’re young. But let’s not forget the situation is the way it is, and it’s not going to change after four games.

  120. warriorfan4ever October 4, 2009 5:05 pm

    interesting to see what’ll happen in the next few weeks…Austin beat out both Rausch and Moniz in the spring, and if it weren’t for a head-on, hit and run moped accident the day before fall practice, he’d likely still have been #2 at the start of this season. it’s a good thing Austin is back and healthy again. i believe in both Austin and Moniz to see us through…

  121. d1島 October 4, 2009 5:07 pm

    On this team, we’re all united in a common goal: to keep my job.
    Lou Holtz

  122. d1島 October 4, 2009 5:08 pm

    When all is said and done, more is said than done.
    Lou Holtz

  123. Kazz (blkberry_storm) October 4, 2009 5:11 pm

    Wow! Chancellor Hinshaw here in person at WPSS to cheer on the Wahine and the FSU female mutts…

  124. Jn October 4, 2009 5:19 pm

    Stephen, I am not stressed out at all, I am completely in agreement about the players as you will see in an earlier blog where I stated you can’t blame the players because they are only doing what they are told by the coaches. Right after that blog someone else, not me, stated they blamed the players. So I dont want you to get the wrong idea. My criticism is only with the coaching. Never ever with the players. They are kids and I know that. The coaches get paid alot of money to win. So I expect them to adjust. Lead a good game and teach the players what they need to win. I agree the situation is the way it is but the coaches need to adjust the situation during game time. If they can’t learn from their mistakes then how much time do we give them? How many losing season’s will it cost before we see the need for change? Thank you for taking the time to answer me. Aloha, from a loyal fan.

  125. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 5:20 pm

    It’s way too early to judge coach and coaching staff. It’s like telling a genetics engineering farm or a farm heavy in synthetic fertilizer use to be organic the next year. It just ain’t gonna happen overnight. You got to condition the soil naturally which takes 5 years. Less than which, it just ain’t organic, no matter how much you huff and puff.

  126. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 5:20 pm

    this might be a stupid question….

    lets say Rolovich is offered another coaching position at X-University and assuming Ron Lee is not the favored offensive play caller (as it seems now)…….would McMackin still push for the Run and Shoot or would the immediate needs of a new “offensive coordinator” (using quotation marks) open up the field to a somebody who would bring a Spread or WCO style offense etc etc etc to UH?

    I know i know i know this is hypothetical…but like with June Jones, we knew unless he himself left we would always have the RnS offense. Now with a defensive head coach…….?

  127. Kazz (blkberry_storm) October 4, 2009 5:25 pm

    Losing seasons? Last year we were 7-7 and this season is no even halfway done.

  128. Jn October 4, 2009 5:29 pm

    Your right but .500 isn’t a winning season. And unless we make adjustments quick we are heading for a losing season, because it seems like our division is getting better. Aloha Jn

  129. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 5:33 pm

    i will always have faith in our football program…but it stops right there…

    “Faith must be enforced by reason. When faith becomes blind, it dies”

    – Mahatma Gandhi

  130. jm2375 October 4, 2009 5:38 pm

    Re: calling for Mac’s head – do people forget that (probably the very same) people were calling for JJ’s head (and booing TC) for a couple of years? C’mon people, it’s part of sports. It’s only a game, don’t sweat the small stuff. The events of the past week should’ve put some perspective on it.

  131. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 5:41 pm

    Good points, Jn.

  132. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 5:44 pm


    Rolovich will eventually go somewhere else… (primarily for the money) and McMackin will urge him to take the offer, just as JJ urged McMackin to take the offer 9 years ago. BUT, Ron Lee and McMackin go back 35 years as a coaching duo. So I seriously doubt that McMackin would dump Ron Lee and the RnS.

  133. Stephen Tsai October 4, 2009 5:46 pm

    In 2004, the Warriors were hammered by Fresno State, 70-14.
    One of the top editors decided she wanted a story about how the program had deteriorated and that a coaching change might be necessary.
    We argued that we should wait, because UH was going to be playing Idaho, and that it would likely win.
    But noooo. They went ahead.
    And, so, UH beats Idaho, Northwestern and Michigan State to close out the regular season, and then defeats UAB in the Hawaii Bowl.
    I think it’s too early to judge this season. I’m guessing the halfway point, after the Idaho game, would be a good starting point.

  134. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 5:52 pm


    I have no doubts that McMackin would keep Ron on staff. There are reasons why Rolovich is doing the play calling now (not 100% totally because the receivers need help by Ron)

    So again hypothetically if Rolovich leaves….the responsibilities go back to the person who currently has been released of said responsibilities? Or are we posting openings?

    obviously im bored right now hahahaha. coming up with all these wut if’s.

  135. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 6:06 pm

    Me? 1) I think Rolovich is calling plays because they deemed he was ready for more responsibility and both Ron and Greg really like Nick and were willing to take a chance on him. 2) The WRs needed more guidance – of that there is no question. 3) No other WR coach was available on short notice that knew the system. 4) Last but not least, it hurts my wee little brain to imagine otherwise.

  136. royvic October 4, 2009 6:08 pm

    Read ST article today describing yesterday’s impromptu practice by the players.

    The message conveyed by Soares is that he felt the players needed to practice.

    “We have to grow some.” And he goes on, “We don’t deserve four days off.”

    Soares conceded that the players are tired, but we needed to practice fundamentals (they did tackling drills).

    At the end of practice the other co-leader of calling the practice, Estes, along with Soares gave a 10 minute talk.

    I got to hand it to these two, for they can see the over all picture clearer than their head coach.

    Little I know of these two young players, I’d venture to say they’d probably be great candidates to someday be coaches just by observing their attitudes.

  137. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:09 pm


    While we want immediate fixes you are right. I think its a little to early to judge the season at this point. Whether is 12-1 or 7-6 it means the same thing….Hawaii Bowl. We still have a shot at the hawaii bowl so lets make the necessary changes to have a winning season.

    If we come out with a winning season after all thats been going on with injuries, blunders, 3rd string QB etc etc I would be pleased as punch.

    Sugar sugar, we are all too hyped up that we are BCS material. I dont think anyone can argue that fact that we are not BCS material. First thing first lets start to win the WAC and win the Hawaii Bowl. Those should be the immediate goals for the next few years. In 2008 we had a whole lotta luck and fortune on our side.

  138. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:11 pm


    I think Rolovich was probably ready for more responsiblity, hence he is the designee. I can say with the certainty of a former semi-high profile UH coach who is still within the “inner circle” that those reasons arent purely it ;-).

  139. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 6:18 pm

    Could it be that “iwonderwhytheyhateme” has something in common with my airless power paint sprayer?

  140. Rich2176 October 4, 2009 6:19 pm

    To everyone calling for Mac’s head. Think about this. JJ left UH for a $2m payday. His team won ONE game last year against 11 loses. Mac’s salary was half of JJ’s and he was able to get the team to a bowl game. This year both SMU and the Warriors are 2-2. Which team is getting it’s money’s worth based on the coach’s salary???

    The other thing is that there has been the loss of great players on both sides of the ball due to either graduation or injuries. Is that the coach’s fault? Like I’ve said in an earler post, Mac’s only problem is including everyone in the decision making, therefore it looks like disorganization. In reality, he’s not alienating anyone – one of the knocks on JJ.

    Best of luck to GA and a speedy recovery. Too bad it had to end this way, but he left it all on the field, and that’s what leaders do.

  141. Garret October 4, 2009 6:21 pm

    I don’t like to criticize the players because they work extremely hard and have to handle all of their athletic responsibilities in addition to their academics. Road trips (as we have just seen) cost the players a lot of class time, which makes the challenge even greater.

    When I was an undergrad I lived in the same dorm as the Texas football players for 3 years, including being just 1 floor below the football team for a year. I got to know some of the players and saw first-hand the amazing amount of work they put in. In addition to the heavy athletics/academics workload during the season, the work they did during the offseason was amazing and I’m sure that the Warriors put in a similar amount of work. I also took a couple of (engineering and math) classes with Stanford football players and saw first-hand how hard they worked to keep up with school.

    The only players that I think deserve great criticism are those that embarrass the program with off-field incidents. For example, if a player was arrested and convicted for Michael Vick-like dog abuse or Mike Tyson-like female assault, I definitely wouldn’t feel like the program should take them back after they got out of prison.

  142. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:25 pm


    i dunno…could it? when you figure it out make sure to let everyone on here who doesn’t care know about it. 🙂

    the end =)

  143. Garret October 4, 2009 6:29 pm


    I’ve seen that argument used a lot comparing the records that JJ and Mac have, and I really think that argument is flawed for a few reasons. JJ took over a team with *very* little talent and played a lot of freshmen and in his first season…and remember, he had a month to recruit and those players weren’t exactly highly rated.

    If you compare the depth chart for the two schools, you’ll see a majority of the 2-deep chart at SMU are freshman or sophomores. I think that their entire 2nd team OL is 19 years old or younger, and they have just 1 senior on their starting OL with the rest either freshmen or sophomores. UH’s entire starting OL is made of seniors. Before Alexander got injured, UH was starting a senior and SMU was starting a sophomore.

    I doubt that anyone expected SMU to win much last year, with very little talent and players on offense that were recruited for an entirely different system. The team had also lost for 20 years and had to change their entire attitude. They also have to learn to win, not something to be overlooked.

    If you look at their recruiting class, I think they have 19 commits and I think that 11 of them are rated 3-stars by rivals or scout.

  144. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:31 pm


    Yep agree. Criticisms for players come when they exercise some sort of unethical or embarrassing behavior.

    We haven’t had those personal foul penalties called on us like we had in the past so far. I think our players are showing a lot of respect and character.

  145. Garret October 4, 2009 6:33 pm

    My biggest criticisms of JJ:

    1. Failure to make home visits after his first few seasons at UH. Big problem with the former Kahuku coach (maybe he wasn’t fully at fault, but it would have been good if he could have patched that up) also hurt recruiting.

    2. Some crazy gambles where the risk/benefit ratio didn’t make sense to me, like fake punts while on the wrong side of the 50.

    3. Failure to stress academics enough (awarding scholarships to walk-ons, etc.) and over recruiting QBs (resulting in transfers) until the APR scholarship losses hurt badly.

  146. Slugger October 4, 2009 6:33 pm


    Did you hear any tidbits from the other table at Genji?


    Still no email from you on either site. FB seems to be the most reliable right now. Glad you & Peaches has a great time cruising; just not the thing for me.

  147. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:38 pm


    Hey were you there to?! Sorry I am not familiar with the scree names etc. =)

    Yea, a few of us Tsaikos were there and we heard some VERY interesting stories from the “other table”. Some really caught me off guard in both good and bad ways hahaha.

  148. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 6:39 pm

    Steve M,

    you got a facebook?! searching you now! hehehe.

  149. Garret October 4, 2009 6:47 pm

    My biggest concerns about Mac:

    1. Clock management was a problem at times last season and instead of getting better it has been a bigger problem this season. It hurt the team during the UCA and UNLV games this season.

    2. Special teams decision making seems to be slow at times. The coaches decided extremely late on the 1pt/2pt conversion decision in the UCA game so they had to call a timeout, and they decided so late in the UNLV game that they couldn’t get the timeout called before the ball was snapped. This was a problem last season also during at least one game, but again this problem has gotten worse, not better this season.

    The decision process on going for a FG in the UNLV game was done so late that Coach Tormey admitted after the game that they rushed the FG unit on the field and that the coaches mistake was the reason for the missed FG. The coaches said that they should have called a timeout because they made the decision too late. That cost the team 3 points and UH lost by 1. If UH won that game the team would be 3-1 at the worst right now and the critics wouldn’t be this vocal.

    3. Public speaking mistakes (WAC media day, ESPN halftime interview) provide ammunition for critics and I worry about the way that teams could use that when they are recruiting against UH.

  150. chawan_cut October 4, 2009 6:53 pm

    this week’s UH’s schedule of opponent’s schedules….

    773 yards by nevada over unlv?????

  151. Garret October 4, 2009 6:59 pm

    Bottom line is that *no* coach is perfect, and that UH doesn’t pay enough and doesn’t have the facilities to get an Urban Meyer or Mack Brown. UH was lucky to get JJ at below his market value…and if HF had been competent UH would have accepted JJ’s offer of a *pay cut* so that UH could use the money for the football program’s budget. How many winning head coaches offer to cut their salary if the money is used for his/her team’s budget?

    After getting JJ for less than his market value (and ST said today that JJ would have taken slightly more than half of SMU’s offer to stay at UH if he felt that UH would have made the changes needed to improve the program), I think that UH overpaid Mac. Sure Mac asked for UH’s opening offer to JJ, but UH could have countered at JJ’s previous salary at UH ($800k) plus generous incentives. For an athletic department that is so budget strapped that volleyball players sleep 3 to a room and take a red-eye and play the day they get off the plane, that $300k is significant…something like the entire recruiting budget for all sports combined? Imagine what could be done if the recruiting budget was doubled for every team?

    I think that Mac would have taken less than $1.1 million, especially if incentives (bowl game, graduation rate, conference title) were there that could have brought him near that number. Given his desire to be a head coach and how defensive coordinators make *much* less than $800k, I think he would have taken less in light of the UH budget situation. But I do not blame him for taking what he was offered…the blame goes to the other side of the table in those negotiations.

  152. postmanke October 4, 2009 7:03 pm

    re: 145

    The biggest things I like about JJ:

    Leads medical missions that have brought about $800,000 in medical supplies to American Samoa

    Transforms irrelevant doormats into BCS contenders with his trendy pass happy offense.

    Takes relatively unknowns who forge their way into the Heisman conversations

  153. Garret October 4, 2009 7:06 pm


    After UNLV beat UH they lost to Wyoming and got blown out by Nevada. The thing that worries me is that Nevada was losing their confidence and now they are feeling good about their team again. 559 yards rushing and 214 yards passing will make an offense feel really good about themselves…

  154. Garret October 4, 2009 7:06 pm


    I agree with all of your post #152.

  155. postmanke October 4, 2009 7:06 pm

    If tickets sales continue to decline, does Mack step up and take more of a cut in salary leading into next season?

  156. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:10 pm


    I guess it does take a rocket scientist sometimes to figure these things out hehehe :-P. just kidding.

    No but honestly I couldn’t agree with you more. At the time I feel like UH was a dear in the headlights. They were so shell shocked that I think they just acted out of desperation rather than rationale.

    Was Coach Mac a good pick? Maybe yes, maybe no. It was what made the most sense to a very defensive University in hopes of settling a P.O. public. Is he worth $1.1M? What is Chris Peterson worth? What is Saban worth? I personally dont know.

    My honest feeling is that Mack should have been offered an interim position at the 750-800K range. Take the time to breath, and let cooler heads prevail see if it was really the best thing we could do for the University. If in the end everyone believed that Mack was the go to guy I would have much rather seen him take a 750K salary with the condition to infuse much much more capital into facilities and recruiting budgets.

  157. Garret October 4, 2009 7:10 pm

    I have a long list of what I like about JJ and Mac, but since the discussion today was on negatives and what can be or should be said, I figured I would say some things to get people on both sides of the issue mad at me.

    Talking with Tsaikos in Vegas and via e-mail and phone calls throughout this season, I know that there are a lot of people who choose not to post their unhappiness about certain things or concerns/criticisms because they don’t want to get attacked by others.

  158. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:17 pm

    maybe someone can help me do some research for another “what if” question. its always fun to think of.

    Garret, maybe you already have this answer. What can we get for $1.1-1.5M a year in terms of coach3w? Current headcoaches, offensive coordinators, nfl, college etc. What is that money worth and to whom would bite if the offer was made in your opinion?

    And to the haters, im not saying I want to replace mcmakin, this is just a question of how much $1M is really worth.

  159. Garret October 4, 2009 7:22 pm


    I agreed with the decision to hire Coach McMackin at the time and still agree with his selection over the alternative candidates we heard about at the time. If UH had structured his contract differently, then they could have saved money…and maybe we would spared the complaints about his salary.

    The Las Vegas Sun last year published UNLV head coach Mike Sanford’s salary…$150k.

    According to Sporting News, Louisiana Tech head coach Derek Dooley made $400k last year, though according to Bloomberg he makes an extra $50k for being the Athletic Director. He is greatly underpaid for both jobs!

  160. Garret October 4, 2009 7:25 pm

    Sporting News last year had Mike Sanford’s salary at $435k, so maybe the $150k was just what came from UNLV and the rest is from boosters or coaches’ show or something.

  161. Slugger October 4, 2009 7:28 pm


    I was sitting next to you. :)) But you were closer to the other table, so I didn’t hear the scoops.

    K, gotta go finish painting nails. No typing for a while.


  162. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:28 pm

    ok ill start with the info regarding head coaches. this isnt a complete list though.

    at the $1M-1.1M range:

    Dennis Erickson (ASU)
    Dan Hawkins (Colo)
    Mike Gundy (Okla St.)
    Dabo Swinney (Clemson)
    Mike Stoops (Arizona)

    at the $1.15 – 1.25 range:

    Dan Mullen (Miss St.)
    Pat Hill (Fresno)
    Rick Neuheisel (UCLA)
    Skip Holtz (E. Carolina)

    at the $1.3 – $1.5M range:

    Gary Patterson (TCU)
    Bret Bielema (Wisconsin)
    Jim Leavitt (USF) *talk about taking a team from nowhere to somewhere*
    Randy Shannon (Miami)
    Joe Paterno (Penn)
    Chip Kelly (Oregon)

    at the $1.75 – $2.0M range:

    June Jones
    Lane Kiffin (Tenn)
    Gene Chizik (Auburn)
    Bo Pelini (Nebraska)
    Jeff Tedford (Cal)
    Steve Sarkesian (Washington)
    Steve Spurrier (S. Carolina)
    Mark Dantonio (Mich St.)
    Mike Leach (Texas Tech)

    Of course just because we offer the money doesn’t mean people will come. There always is much more to why a coach will coach at a particular place. But its interesting to see what the going rate is for coaches. Note: this does not include the bonuses and what not.

  163. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:31 pm

    yeah dooley is underpaid for sure….but heck look at paterno…$1.5M haha. I guess the bonuses and incentives and what not are really really fatty.

  164. Kazz (T-H-R-E-E more for Coach Shoji) October 4, 2009 7:34 pm


    Just got back from the WPSS and another tough loss for the Wahine soccer team! 🙁

    At least three good opportunities to bury the ball in the back of the net and nada.

    Seen it all the time in hockey in games where the goalie would stand on his head and win the game all by himself, but tonight wasn’t the case as FSU had some decent opportunites to extend their lead themselves.

  165. Garret October 4, 2009 7:35 pm


    In my opinion, there are some extremely underpaid coaches right now and some overpaid coaches, so I could give extreme examples that would skew the results. Given WAC budget limitations, it shouldn’t be a surprise that coaches like Chris Ault, Derek Dooley, Dick Tomey, and Robb Akey are extremely underpaid compared to what I think they are worth (Tomey makes about a third of Mac, Akey makes about a fourth).

    GIven C-USA budgets, JJ is overpaid in my opinion…but the boosters are paying him and not the school. A certain Big 10 head coach got a *crazy* contract extension recently with a salary far out of line with his record on the field.

    When I look at Tennessee’s assistant coach salaries, it just blows my mind. A big problem for non-BCS conference schools is that they constantly lose their top assistants to bigger budget schools. Mac left for Texas Tech after one season and Coach Cav left for Oregon State. If UH had the budget to keep *both* Mac and Coach Cav for JJ’s entire tenure, JJ would have had a much better record and people would think about him differently. I think losing Coach Cav really hurt, both on the field and in recruiting battles. If UH had an extra $300k to spend back then, UH could have matched their salaries and kept them…but then everyone else on staff would have needed raises and UH couldn’t have afforded that.

  166. postmanke October 4, 2009 7:36 pm

    1-1.5M could possibly lure some top assistants in the country. But then again, prob not.

    Charlie Strong – Florida
    Brent Venables – Oklahoma

    I would love to see a Charlie Strong type of coach at UH

  167. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:41 pm


    You gotta agree though, $1M for Monti Kiffin is a steal. Tennessee needed to make a statement I think after being the downers of the sec. Tampa’s defense was prety darn amazing. Your basically getting another college if not nfl quality head coach to run your defense at the nfl level.

    Look what they did to neutralize Florida. Could it be they lacked that running back? maybe…but I think they had a defensive scheme that was ready for the Gators.

    Though I am not a lane kiffin fan =(

  168. Garret October 4, 2009 7:42 pm

    There is no point in blowing the budget on a head coach and then having no money to pay for top assistants. A head coach needs great assistant coaches to do well, at least those in key positions (coordinators, OL, recruiting dynamos). A lot of the high-profile coaches listed wouldn’t come to UH unless the assistant coach salaries were increased significantly…which prices them out of UH’s reach.

  169. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:43 pm

    i agree


    you gotta pay to play. 🙂

  170. Garret October 4, 2009 7:43 pm


    From what I read, Lane Kiffin took *less* than what he was offered and asked for that money to be used to increase the pool of money for assistant coaches. He was a very smart man to do that…I do not like Lane Kiffin but I do recognize that was a good decision.

  171. Garret October 4, 2009 7:45 pm

    Where is the love?

    I cannot believe that ST wasn’t mentioned when so many others were mentioned!

  172. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:46 pm


    Tennessee’s defense was a joke under Fulmer. What Lane did to bring on his dad Monti was genius. I still think Monti is underpaid even if he is only an assistant.

  173. A-House October 4, 2009 7:47 pm


    what is “BCS material”?

    accepting an invitation to join a BCS conference would instantly make a team BCS material.

    the “bottom dwellers” of the BCS conferences are BCS material because they were a member of the conference when the BCS was born.

    the BCS conference is a conference who took the gamble to form this “new” status, looked to all means available to “stock” their own pockets with boku $$$, and have a lock on who plays for the mythical national championship – they control college football like no other has and I would like to see a more equitable distribution of $$$ to all conferences – even create a “new” mid-major conference status with their own bowl games. but, they need someone or many someones who have all the right connections, especially $$$ and media, to make it work. until the BCS is really challenged, they would be nuts to have others join their feast!!!

  174. postmanke October 4, 2009 7:51 pm

    The way I see it, you have to take chances at some young up and coming coaches if you’re a team in the WAC. If you can recognize talent in a person you can get good bang for your buck. I am confidant that JD can recognize talent. I am sure the next hire will fit the budget and with exceptional talent. The problem will be keeping them. But that’s the game you play. Utah, Boise St does a great job of recognizing talent. Or you can get under paid guys like Ault at Nevada and go nowhere for quarter of a century.

  175. Garret October 4, 2009 7:52 pm


    BCS Conferences make big money because their schools fund their Athletic Departments more and because of their *regular season* TV contracts. They had big regular season TV contracts even before the BCS existed…for example, the Rose Bowl was just the Pac-10 and Big 10 for decades and paid out huge money relative to the Oahu Bowl/Aloha Bowl/Hawaii Bowl.

    You could split up the money from the BCS bowl equally among *all* D-IA schools and the disparity would be greater now between the SEC/Big10 and the WAC than it was *before* the BCS. If we go back to the old system of bowl games, UH would have *less* money than before!

    The TV networks pay for eyeballs and schools that own the big TV markets get the big money. The Big 10 created a network and makes billions…the MWC created a network and makes far less (but still much more than what ESPN pays the WAC).

  176. Garret October 4, 2009 7:54 pm

    Anyway, I’m writing too much tonight and need to spend some time with my wife…sorry if I wrote too much when I had some free time tonight.

  177. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 7:55 pm


    Therein lies the problem. For example I dont think WSU is BCS material but like you said they are in the Pac-10 so they are “bcs material”.

    Maybe instead of BCS material I should say “premier” or “highly regarded” team like a Boise or BYU would be.

    I guess referring to teams as a BCS team is way to controversial. Hawaii as a team isn’t in the same category as a USC, Florida, Oklahoma etc (obvious). Even compared to Boise State in our own conference it is difficult to compare to Hawaii to them…I dont know how to exactly convey my thoughts here.


    Can we get to a level where Boise St, BYU, Utah is? Meaning respect w/o being in a BCS conference? Yes we can! but we aren’t there yet. That is why I said we need to focus on being the WAC champion and winning the Hawaii Bowl and if at the end of the regular season we are in the top 12 or whatever and we get a BCS invite so be it. But I personally dont see it as a realistic goal for the next few years.

  178. d1島 October 4, 2009 7:56 pm

    “Where’s the love?” indeed! 🙄

  179. Derek October 4, 2009 8:00 pm

    Oh, Oh! If anybody keeping up, Idaho beat Colorado St. yesterday, now making the Vandals 4-1 on the season and very impressive. They also won a road game the prior week at Northern Illinois, who also had beated Purdue at Purdue badly. Bottom line, Idaho is very much improved and will cause teams problems. UH at Idaho on Oct. 17 is a very tough game and in fact Idaho will be favored in that one.

  180. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 8:07 pm

    I dont think many coaches agree with the BCS system…heck even BCS coaches dont. Look at Mark Mangino at Kansas and even Joe Paterno.

    however I think Paterno summed it up pretty good when he said

    **I dont like the way we do it…I’d like to see us sit down and find a better way, but do I have a better way, can I give you a way that everybody will stand up and give me a standing ovation when i say it, probably not…..but i dont like what we got.**

  181. royvic October 4, 2009 8:11 pm

    Earlier when the line for the UH-Fresno game came out it was Fresno giving 7. Now the odds are up to Fresno giving 9 (which means a lot of heavy betting is on Fresno).

    Me I would take UH and the 9 points.

    One of the reason why I like UH is that in 4 games Fresno’s defense has only registered 3 sacks. And anytime the UH QB has time to throw and isn’t facing a big pass rush the offense can get up and down the field.

    Plus Fonoti, Falemalu having an additional 10 days to heal helps.

    Meatoga, Letuli out for the Latech game would be huge additions if they are ready for the Fresno game.

    Purcell I’ve been watching looks like he’s been being playing hurt and having some time off may help him heal too.

    Likewise with Javonte.

    Soon as the shrewd betters catch wind (like being at tomorrows practice and seeing the aforementioned players practicing well I would think the line would go down.)

  182. royvic October 4, 2009 8:20 pm

    In addition to post #181

    UH has confidence in beating Fresno (they did last year)

    Last when they played Fresno

    “It’s Football Friday. The UH football team has its work cut out for it with a visit to Bulldog Stadium against 21st ranked Fresno State. While the Warriors have won two of the past three meetings there, this time the odds are stacked against them. The Bulldogs enter as 22 point favorites”.

  183. Garret October 4, 2009 9:09 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want to read the off-topic stuff.

    The swine flu is rapidly spreading throughout the US, so it is good that the swine flu vaccine began to be available on Tuesday. It is scary that pregnant women have a 6x greater chance to die from the swine flu, with 100 pregnant women in the US sent to emergency rooms between April and August (when the swine flu was much less widespread than it will be this Fall and Winter), with 28 pregnant women (and almost certainly the kids they were carrying) dying.

  184. Garret October 4, 2009 9:10 pm

    German scientists developed a nasal spray that improves memory if a person gets a good night’s sleep afterwards. Young men taking this nasal spray remembered more things that they were studying the night before when they woke up the next morning…the market for college students alone could be huge for this!

  185. Garret October 4, 2009 9:11 pm

    Study found that certain forms of arsenic that are contained in seafood may be toxic. Even worse, the researchers found that the arsenic seems to build up inside of some people over an extended period of time.

  186. Garret October 4, 2009 9:11 pm

    5-year-old boy caught an 12-foot-long, 800-pound alligator.

  187. Nalani October 4, 2009 9:11 pm

    Thanks everybody for the BDay wishes. The best present I got was Pono’s interception and Kamehameha’s win v St Louis last night. It was superb!

    Re: UH, they need to improve and heal on the DL, or every team in the WAC will be setting running records on us for the rest of the season. But we still cheer for the men in Green/Black and wish them much success against Fresno this coming weekend. GO WARRIORS!!!

  188. Garret October 4, 2009 9:11 pm

    Polygamist circumcised his 3 sons and himself…he used box cutters and gave his boys *no* anesthesia, doing such a bad job that they had severe pain and one son bled for 11 hours!

  189. Garret October 4, 2009 9:12 pm

    Free play links pau.

  190. Hitman 24 October 4, 2009 9:12 pm

    Hey, what about the ex-Roosevelt cheerleaders? I’d rather be talking about them than football right now!

  191. Garret October 4, 2009 9:12 pm

    Happy Birthday Nalani!

  192. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 9:26 pm

    “Where’s the love?”

    Maybe for two weeks, we should boycott The Warrior Beat and use our emergency one – LIZ, are you ready???

  193. Garret October 4, 2009 9:26 pm

    This is what Duff wrote on WSN:

    I personally took Miano to Shiloah Keo’s school his senior year. I was recruting for a JC and let Miano piggyback with me in Washington as a friend and recruit the same schools with me. I would have signed Keo as a no brainer and told Miano that and if fact that’s why I took him to the high school. Keo was a player and had a very special field vision and was a tough physical kid. I loved him. I had kept a promise to Adam Leonard who I signed to Dixie State JC out of Ranier Beach that I would get him to a Division One A school as soon as humanly possible. Before his freshman season I came to Hawaii to see my wife’s family and vacation, I drove up to UH and showed film of Adam to June and Miano and they flew him in and signed him. He was supposed to fly to Fresno State that weekend but Adam loved Hawaii and with me and Coach Croshaw from Dixie supporting his decision fully he committed that weekend. He never played a down for us at Dixie and we acutally needed him, but promises are promises and a young man’s future is more important than a win to two. That’s all I’ve got to say about it. Don’t want a bunch of Kook Aid drinkers jumping on me for being honest. UH could have had Keo no problems. But you’d have to actually want to recruit and make football your primary job to get a player or two. If it weren’t for Reinebold and me, there wouldn’t have been any DBS the last 3 years. That’s a fact, not my own personal view. Aloha Duff

  194. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 9:27 pm

    Well, with the 7%? pay cut and the 1 month without pay, didn’t it come out to about $800 K for this year, anyway?

  195. Kekoa October 4, 2009 9:28 pm

    Aloha Nalani!I’ve been busy today. Barely time left to sign in and wish you a very Happy Birthday!

    Thank your youngster for making that outstanding pick, allowing KS to prevail over those pesky Crusader rabbits! What a great gift for your birthday!

    I’m sure that DPK, Rob25, Bulla & Pride have already added their thanks as well.

    I know that GO WARRIORS! is serious stuff in your hale!

  196. Garret October 4, 2009 9:29 pm

    I just signed up to read WSN over the weekend after a comment that Kazz made about WSN, but now I think I shouldn’t have posted the above quote. Blog timeout for me.

  197. labrat October 4, 2009 9:37 pm

    The way I see it is it is not how you start. It is how you finish. I just look for improvements game to game and hope things get better.

    I am just a fan and I go to the games because I enjoy it. i have been doing it for over three decades and I am not about to stop now. I will support the Warriors win or lose.

  198. madeinhawaii October 4, 2009 9:41 pm


    So, on your opinion — given Hawaii’s somewhat ‘unique’ geographical hurdles, what do you think we really need to do and/or can do to take UH to the level that Boise is at? That is, playing consistently good football?

  199. Kekoa October 4, 2009 9:44 pm

    Diogenes Sinope ~

    Re: #192…There was some discussion, but with our cruise director (SteveM) out of the loop, Ha! No chance. Besides, Liz can be brutal when she’s in charge of moderating. No mercy! Bwhahahaha!

  200. protector October 4, 2009 10:05 pm

    In discussing salaries, I see that most of the discussion deals with quantitative issues. What some are forgetting are the qualitative issues that that are integral to the coaching situation here. Would any of the candidates mentioned hypothetically be as culturally sensitive and as user-friendly as Coach Mac?? He’s embraced Hawaii & its culture & he’s accepted & embraced back by most of us. There are those of course that pretend to be true UH fans, but their overly critical & attacking nature points out their hypocrisy. If I say I like you and I’m slapping you in the head at the same time, are you naive enough to believe only the words coming out of my mouth?? If someone says that the coaches should “shape up or ship out” (after only a season and a third), do we have to agree to this rush to judgement? Do we have to agree with someone that says his wife can make better coaching decisions than our HC?

    I also want to ask ‘jn’ why he feels people are “calling him out” or are denying him the right to an opinion when they choose to disagree with him. If you express an opinion, another may choose to express their opinion by disagreeing with yours-often with good rationale or reasons. I’ve always felt that you should be able to take what you dish out. I’ve always lived by that and not just “talked” about it. People have a right to express their opinion as long as it doesn’t degenerate into vicious personal attacks. I know that at times when people like ‘alice’, ‘Mach5MotorSport’, and other haters come on the blog, that I have to remind myself not to resort to just pure personal attacks & venom because I’m probably just giving them the negative attention that they pathetically crave. It’s hard not to take the bait, though.

  201. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc October 4, 2009 10:27 pm

    Back from another day of doing good and well at the same time

    Now that we’re less than five days away, start saving your HI-5 cans & bottles to bring to the next T-Gate on Saturday, October 10.

    The beneficiary this time is the Hawaii High School Athletic Association’s SAVE OUR SPORTS Drive.

    The bin(s) will be set out no later than 11 am and all the recyclables – including donations brought from home – will be stored during the breakdown before the opening ceremonies at Aloha Stadium so that they won’t “walk away” with someone looking to pick up some spare change. We’ll set the bin back up at the post-game party.

    We’ll also pick up quantities in excess of 250 containers anywhere on O`ahu on the Sunday following the T-Gate provided that arrangements are made no later than the Friday since might have to borrow a truck. Please e-mail swood at hoku dot com and include your daytime and evening phone numbers along with your real and blog names.

    On Saturday, October 24, is the BOISE STATE T-Gate. The beneficiary of that HI-5 Drive will be the “Serving Up 1,000” Fundraiser honoring Coach Shoji’s 1,000th win.

    Coach Shoji should have his 1,002nd win the night before (October 23)since his 1,000th win will most likely be on Wednesday, October 14, against LaTech at the Stan Sheriff Center.

    Here are the recipients at the remaining home games:

    Saturday, November 7, UTAH STATE – Dole Middle School’s Cross-Country Fall Semester Program;

    Saturday, November 14, NEW MEXICO STATE – Pacific Islands Athletic Alliance;

    Saturday, November 28, NAVY – Koa Anuenue Scholarship Program/Men’s Sports other than football;

    Saturday, December 5, WISCONSIN – Koa Anuenue Scholarship Program/Wahine Sports other than volleyball.

    The T-Gate recipient for the Sheraton Hawai`i Bowl will be announced after the regular season.

    Again, ALL of the redemption fees will be made on behalf of the Tsai-kos & will be sent to the designated recipients within 48 – 72 hours of each T-Gate.


    NOTE: We’re coordinating a major recycling drive at three different sites in Windward O`ahu on the morning of October 24 to benefit the after-school sports programs at Castle, Kalaheo and Kailua High Schools ass part of the Hawaii High School Athletic Association SOS Fund-raiser.

    More details to come, but please encourage your friends, co-workers, relatives, etc., who live in Waimanalo, Kailua, Kane`ohe & Kahalu`u to support the event. by saving their HI-5 cans & bottles. Our goal is to collect 60,000 containers in three hours at the three sites combined.

    Mahalo in advance for supporting these youth and UH athletic programs.

  202. Diogenes Sinope October 4, 2009 10:39 pm

    KEKOA – your #199. I think SteveM should be home by now. The last posting seem to indicate that he had landed in SFO – that was 2 days ago I think.

  203. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 4, 2009 10:43 pm


    first of all if i knew that answer, i would be the most highly sought after coach in NCAA history.

    however if i had to choose a single thing to bring us up to speed – MONEY. Our special geographical circumstances means everything costs more. June worked with so little and was able to accomplish many winning seasons and a very fortunate BCS birth. Its scary to think what not only he could accomplish but what he could sustain with even more resources. We need more of it to be on the same playing field.

    we need more of it to build up our facilities, recruiting efforts, selling the brand (one of the things june i think will always be remembered for is that, he turned Hawaii football in a brand name).

    yes money is not the cure all, but not needing to worry about how to spend your money or not having enough of it makes things a lot easier. Money doesn’t necessarily cure your ills but it can help to open opportunities that weren’t there when you didn’t have the money.

    I dont think we will be able to keep up with USC or Texas in recruiting etc etc but I think we have the ability given the right resources to keep up with the Boise’s, TCU, and BYU’s.

  204. Jn October 4, 2009 10:48 pm

    Howzit, read all the posts and you will have your answer. I’m not a hater I am a true Hawaii fan and they are and always will be #1 in my family.
    You gotta admit though debate is good and healthy and alot of great information was given about coaches,coaching,salaries and what ifs. Now I ask you, are you a hater of people who have their own opinions?
    Maybe we should all just chill. Looking forward to next weeks game,GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!

  205. Jn October 4, 2009 10:59 pm

    I agree with Steven to give it until the Idaho game to see where the team is going.

  206. LizKauai [iMac] WARRIORS! IMUA! October 4, 2009 11:25 pm

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Hail to the Redskins!

    Any team can win on any given Sat- er- Sunday!

    Nitey nite and SWEET WARRIOR DREAMS!

  207. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc October 4, 2009 11:56 pm

    The primary way to get the kind of money to make significants improvements in the athletic programs at UH is from the private sector via rich alumni & community leaders who will leave their money to UH such as Clarence T.C. Ching; from businesses which will profit from people coming to Hawai`i to see the game or match or tournament and then spend time & money in beautiful Hawai`i before & after the sporting event(s); and, finally from businesses such as Costco which do very well in Hawai`i or who are interested in developing a new kind of business here in Hawai`i such as solar energy research or biotech stuff.

    We cannot compete against Stanford or USC or Notre Dame or BYU because UH is a publicly-funded land grant institution; however, there is no reason in the world why we cannot do as well as UCLA or UDub or Ohio State or Nebraska or UTexas or Tennessee.

    What is needed is to strengthen the connections between the academic and the athletic aspects of higher education – and we have someone who is already doing that – Virginia Hinshaw.

    Meanwhile, how many regulars on this blog are graduates of the University of Hawai`i? Of that number, how many are members of the UH Alumni Association? The best way that these connections will be strengthened is for UH grads who are passionate about intercollegiate sports to take on a leadership role in the UHAA. The Letterwinners Club cannot do it by themselves.

    If we want to improve the athletic programs at UH over the next 10 -15 years, then it’s time to walk the walk – expecting someone else to do something is not going to achieve very much.

  208. al October 5, 2009 12:56 am

    was it leila or ferd that you were riding with?

  209. al October 5, 2009 12:59 am

    on a very serious note.

    what is the current situation with the fonoti family?

  210. al October 5, 2009 1:04 am

    just heard that fonoti’s mother and brother have been found and are okay.

    still others learning to hear some positive news about their families.

    praying for their discovery.

  211. bighilofan2 October 5, 2009 2:23 am

    if i was a fly on da wall, it’d be interesting to hear how the recruiting trip went.

    if i was a fly on da wall, i’d try to find out from da odda semi “insiders” da particulars of how Iwonderwhytheyhateme got into da circumstances of how his moniker came to be. 😉

    if I was a fly on da wall, i’d go visit Jn’s house to see if his wife could increase my wife’s winning percentage in Pick of the Pros; she went 11 of 13 yesterday.

    den again, i’m guessing dat no football team or group of assistant coaches at da pee wee level would listen to her eeda. too much ruuge.



    maybe das da prolem. too much leadership from 2 leaders = confusion.

    buzzz buzzz i tink i hit da lottery.

  212. bighilofan2 October 5, 2009 2:32 am

    going back moe moe.

  213. wafan October 5, 2009 3:19 am

    Good morning to all!

  214. wafan October 5, 2009 3:22 am

    Tsigh. Monday.

    At least the sun will be out. Highs in the mid to upper 60’s!


    Out the door.

  215. whitey October 5, 2009 4:49 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. Good morning d1, time to wake up and get to work. hahahahaaaaa

  216. mctruck October 5, 2009 5:03 am

    Goodmorning all,

    Mmmmm!!!, fried rice…how I love it!!
    I might be a little biased, but my grandmother could wip-up the best fried rice ever!!

    Dallas Cowboys?!….wow! laulau, manhandled last night!!??

    Does anyone recall if Devon Bess has been credited with a td so far in his nfl career? Someone was saying earlier that when Pennington got hurt, that Henne would pass less especially being from run, run, Michigan, and sure as shootin that’s exactly what happened in the Dolphins win this past weekend,(maybe because the dolphins are just trying to work Henne in). Good thing they got that wildcat deal going for them.

  217. mctruck October 5, 2009 5:09 am

    Just my observation; when JJ was at UH. the shovel pass was like a staple in the offense….and I’m not seeing much of it anymore, am I imagining things?

  218. bighilofan2 October 5, 2009 6:31 am

    Good morning Tsaikow everywhere.

    nope, you ain’t imagining things. rolovvich is getting the qbs to do like he did, downfield. thats what i sees anyways. then again, i need to see my ralph soon.


  219. Jn October 5, 2009 8:43 am

    BigHiloFan, Let it go already, your like a broken record. Sorry for stooping to your level.

  220. Аршавин October 6, 2009 5:05 am

    У меня депрессия

  221. Майк Тайсон October 6, 2009 9:41 am

    Вино и женщины приносят нам,

  222. Uhtu October 6, 2009 1:50 pm

    да, вот и у нас начались увольнения.. говорят, что после нового года еще круче будет

  223. Warix October 6, 2009 5:56 pm

    Ты как обычно радуешь нас своими лучшими фразами спасибо, беру!

  224. asji October 6, 2009 7:06 pm

    очень занимательно было почитать

  225. Автомобилист October 6, 2009 10:57 pm

    круто..взяла почти все))

  226. fallout October 7, 2009 1:58 am

    неужели? поразительно.

  227. lexus October 7, 2009 6:46 am

    круто..взяла почти все))

  228. Challenger October 7, 2009 9:15 am

    а в каком это городе,какой стране??очень креативненько!!!!!)))))

  229. Путешественник October 7, 2009 12:26 pm

    “замечательные посты”

  230. FontSky October 7, 2009 3:35 pm

    “Мало кто может похвастаться такой смекалкой, как у автора”

  231. MuzikYes October 7, 2009 5:31 pm

    “утро началось с замечательной статьи, спасибо!”

  232. felix October 7, 2009 8:31 pm

    Красиво написано, мне понравилось.

  233. images October 8, 2009 1:04 am

    их больше было О_о

  234. Инвестор October 8, 2009 4:30 am

    Спасибо огромное, статья супер.

  235. Дизайнер October 8, 2009 7:24 am


  236. Owoman October 8, 2009 8:03 am

    да,но это еще и не все… надеюсь будет ещё

  237. Предприниматель October 8, 2009 11:30 am

    ммм)) так клёво))

  238. Forex October 8, 2009 1:03 pm

    Я от них безума!

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    Хм… Мне пригодится…

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