Merry (?) Christmas

Not much to say after that one last night.

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OK, maybe there are a few things. Repairing the pass protection is obviously the No. 1 priority entering the offseason. UH acknowledged a statistical miscalculation in the Washington State game — two more sacks should be credited — meaning the Warriors did indeed set the NCAA record for most sacks allowed in a season with 59.  Not good, but this could be partly written off because of the musical chairs at quarterback and on the offensive line. There will be no excuses if this happens next year.

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At least the Warriors went down fighting. R.J. Kiesel-Kauhane played despited a wrist injury. Adam Leonard had a great game despite suffering an elbow injury. Ryan Mouton also sucked it up despite being injured inadvertently by a teammate. “Friendly fire,” Mouton said afterward. And Greg Alexander played the entire second half with a subluxed left (non-throwing) shoulder.

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After the game, I asked David Farmer about his plans for the spring. “I’m going to work,” he said. I figured it meant “work out,” as in train for Pro Day, as in what every other senior planned to do. Nope, he meant work, as in get a job. He’s also going to remain in school. He is set to earn a bachelor’s degree in May. Farmer did things the right way in his UH career. He joined as a walk-in. He never complained about his playing time or scholarship status. He finally earned a scholarship last year. This year, he came back from a knee injury. His return, as a backfield blocker, coincided with Alexander’s improved play. He might not have been the best player, but he had one of the best attitudes.

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If you wish to dress like a Notre Dame coach, here’s where to go:


  1. EastManoa December 25, 2008 9:42 am


  2. Mui December 25, 2008 9:44 am


  3. lava December 25, 2008 9:47 am

    All in all it was a successful year for the UH Warriors.

  4. dj December 25, 2008 9:47 am

    wow top few posts. merry xmas!

  5. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 9:58 am

    Merry Christmas everybody!

  6. LizKauai (iPhone) December 25, 2008 9:59 am

    Top 10?

  7. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 10:00 am


  8. addahknowjoe December 25, 2008 10:02 am

    A nui Mele Kalikimaka to my Tsaiko ohana.

    To those who gotta work today- mahalo for your sacrifice so that others may spend the time to enjoy this special day with family and friends.

    Das some major good karma points, you know!

    Now the season’s over I look forward to all the offseaon Tsai-ko adventures that lay ahead and the many other UH sports to support!

  9. LizKauai (iPhone) December 25, 2008 10:04 am


    A couple more hours and we will be cooking a bird and peeling potatoes.

    Mahalo everyone for a great year!

    (I agree w/ Nalani about halftime show. Ukuboi says at least they performed for the Hawaii side- since we were the visitors. )

  10. Jerome December 25, 2008 10:04 am

    Get rid of Ron Lee, no more high school coaches on this staff. Mack is getting paid 1 million per year, Hawaii fans deserve better. Miano can leave too, dude should stick to speed and quickness clinics.

  11. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 10:05 am

    Merry Christmas Braddah Joe and Sistah Liz! Hows yous guys today?

  12. Maverick December 25, 2008 10:05 am

    Hail, Hail to OUR WARRIORS!

    Merry Christmas & Happy Hanukkah everyone.

  13. LizKauai (iPhone) December 25, 2008 10:07 am

    Oh. It was great to see curveball and his sweet watermelon! Still praying for Kristin.

    808Ike- mahalo for slaving over your hot wok and preparing your great shrimp and kalbi!

    Ok boarding soon. CU L8r.

  14. A-House December 25, 2008 10:08 am

    What can I say that has already been said?

    I really believed that the Warriors would do better against Notre Dame then that shown at the Swamp. UH scored more points, but was totally over matched for this game.

    One thing is for sure, Greg Alexander may be a good player, but he is not the leader I expected. Hope he takes this as a motivation to work on this aspect of his “game”. However, it takes years to be a good leader, guts to “call out” his teammates, and let his performance speak volumes for his attitude or passion for Warrior football.

    While some have argued that it is a “team” effort on sacks, one occurrence jumps out and it’s the inability of the OTs to fend off DEs. To many times the DEs are piling on the QB before 3 seconds. Perhaps, Alexander cannot get into the mind set that he has to deliver passes within 3 seconds because his O-line cannot keep defenders out.

    Why did it seem that the O-line HELD, in nearly a straight line, the D-line allowing Funaki to make quick passes to the flats? Why can’t they do this most of the time for the quick outs?

    Or is it that the “pocket” is not being set correctly to allow the QB to step forward to throw longer passes.

    From my perspective, Coach Mack will have to take a very long look in the off-season to objectively review what happened, why, and what’s needed to improve the team for next season. This is for all coaches and players.

    We will continue to support Coach Mack and the team!!!!!!!!

  15. brew808 December 25, 2008 10:11 am

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    ~~•~~~~•~ 😀 😆 Happy..Birthday..SteveM.&.C_C!!! 😆 😀 ~•~~~~•~~

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  16. A-House December 25, 2008 10:22 am


    How come you know the B-days for SteveM and Chawan? You’re GOOD!!

    Therefore, I add my Happy Bifday wishes to both!!

  17. ryan December 25, 2008 10:23 am

    I think its time we dump the run and shoot. If we play a team with athletes on defense they can easily stop our offense. It’s not the Olines fault when they blitz 6 and we only have 5 blocking. We need a more balanced offense with play action so we can keep the defense honest. The run and shoot works well against teams like Idaho and New Mexico State but not against teams with an actual D.

  18. las vegas December 25, 2008 10:24 am

    Funaki got better protection because the game was over.
    No one should read anything into “trash time” scores.
    I agree that GA should be more vocal and act like a leader, but how much leading can you do when you are getting the cr*p beaten out of you every single play?

    Finally the O-Line, we know the OT’s would be over matched, thats a given, however time after time the Guards and Estes completly missed the inside blitzes and the D-Line stunts

  19. las vegas December 25, 2008 10:26 am

    Cheee, my birthday was yesterday, but nothing from you.
    No happy faces, no letters in blue, no nothing>

  20. A-House December 25, 2008 10:28 am

    Jim Donavan:

    Please continue to schedule the best opponents possible to give the Coaches and, especially, the players the opportunity to play against the best to become the BEST.

    May their experiences translate into more hard work, academically and athletically, to continue their upward journey in life to become the best!

  21. chawan_cut December 25, 2008 10:28 am

    Merry Kalikimaka
    to all of you out there wherever you are!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  22. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 10:31 am

    Happy Birthday to SteveM, chawan_cut and Jesus! 😉

  23. ryan December 25, 2008 10:31 am

    I don’t get the blame on the Oline. Yeah they missed some blocks but they were sending more rushers than we had blockers. Its the scheme that caused those sacks. We were a one dimensional team and Notre Dame took advantage of it.

  24. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:32 am


    I agree. The 0-line and the team effort thing. I dont really buy it the way they are making it sound. . If EVERYONE on the offense is causing these sacks then whats the sense. At some point you have to narrow down the problems to a person or few persons, in this case the OFFENSIVE LINE. Particularly the Tackles. Sure everyone wants to be positive, so do I, but i dont sugar coat things and i am the type of person to say it like it is. But it does not take a football genius to realize where you have to point the finger.

    Dont get me wrong. we have a whole lot of problems.

    Should we give a pass to ALL coaches this year? Yes thats reasonable. Should we close our minds off to other talented coach should they be available? especially at O-line? NO absolutely NO. If Coach Cav were to show interest in this job next year and Hawaii declined…i would assume Hawaii has lost its bearings.

    I guess what I am saying is…Mr. Donovan, KEEP POSITIVE BUT KEEP ALL OPTIONS OPEN.

    Winning Season and a Bowl Game. GO Warriors.

  25. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:33 am


    have you not seen the o-line this entire season?

  26. ryan December 25, 2008 10:35 am

    yeah I saw it. I also saw them D’s blitzing 6 guys when we have 5 blocking. What are they supposed to do? The run and shoot doesn’t work.

  27. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 10:37 am

    Howzit Gang…

    Aaron Bain – Thank you very much for playing like a true Warrior and going balls out like a Senior should, too bad some of your teammates weren’t on the same page!

    Disgusting game but whatever, looking forward to big things next year. I hope the underclassmen take this to heart and start working now! Next season has already started and it’s time to put in work, everyone from the Coaches on down, DO WORK!!!

    Much Mahalos to all the Seniors for many great football memories and continued success as you all move on in your lives whether it be in football or the work force!

    Ryan Mouton, Jameel Downling, Michael Washington, Tyler Graunke, Erik Robinson , Tyson Kafentzis, Jake Santos, Solomon Elimimian, Guyton Galdeira, Alonzo Chopp, Calvin Roberts, Desmond Thomas, Daniel Libre, Khevin Peoples, Dane Porlas, C.J. Allen-Jones, Ryan Perry, Keao Monteilh, Adam Leonard, Nate Nasca, David Farmer, Tim Grasso, Francis Maka, Lafu Tuioti-Mariner, Jake Ingram, Nathan McKay, Keith Ah-Soon, Keoni Steinhoff, Dylan Linkner, Aaron Bain, Dan Kelly, Keala Watson, David Veikune, Fale Laeli, and Josh Leonard…

    if I missed someone sorry…

  28. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:37 am


    6 guys blocking 5 is one thing, but u also have farmer in there in the backfield. you also have to look at footage of Washington bring 3 and getting pressure on the qb. Just because we cant block them doesnt mean the Run and Shoot doesnt work. Have you heard of a team called Texas Tech?

  29. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:38 am

    sorry t-tech was just one example. there are a ton more but im reading about their bowl game rite now haha.

  30. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 10:40 am

    Dowling = Downling

  31. ryan December 25, 2008 10:40 am

    Yeah I have heard of Texas Tech, why don’t you go look at how much rushing yards they have this season and how they go more under the center now and do play action? Hawaii ran the ball once last night against one of the worst run defenses in the nation. It’s easy for any D to get sacks when all you do is past.

  32. Kekoa December 25, 2008 10:42 am

    Merry Christmas Morning Tsaiko’s!

    I’m all pau being nuha with the team. Time to sweep out da hale and rebuild.

    1. Like I toll BHF2 last nite, discipline must be their cornerstone. No more personal foul penalties. Jerk that player out of the position and give the next guy a shot. Those who have played the game know how painful it is to ‘sit.’

    2. We already know it’s all about the O-line. But what about the coaching of that crew? Do we have the patience to watch them build a more cohesive unit? I look at them separately from the other coaches because this is the weakest link.

    3. It was, after all, the 1st season for the ‘new’ coaching staff. I’m for giving them all a chance to work with what they have another year and double their effort to re-group.

    Just those 3 simple things to look at for now. No piling on. No heavy critical comments. Just take the small steps it takes to get ‘better’ as coach Mack likes to say.

    (Thanks Stretch…Diana and I appreciate what you did!) jez had to slip that in.

  33. AlaWaiPipelayer December 25, 2008 10:42 am

    Mele Kalikimaka! Having great expectations for the Hawaii Bowl, I was disappointed by the results of the game. For the most part, the Warriors put out a good effort against a physically superior team. You would be hard pressed to find a more talent laden team in the country. Notre Dame had twelve games to get their ship right and it culminated in one great effort yesterday. It will be interesting to see how they fare next year.
    As for our Warriors, the biggest improvement must be made in the space between their ears. We continue to be plagued by penalties and mental errors. Personal Foul penalties are not excusable especially if they occur after the whistle. Discipline means playing all out from the snap to the whistle. It requires complete focus on the moment in order to achieve success. The fault herein lies with the coaching staff and how they operate practice. Every snap of the ball, every drill must have a specific goal. The OL must stay totally in tune with the play at hand. The QB must “see” his box and under duress must be able to escape it and throw the ball away. The Warrior Team was faced with numerous obstacles before and during the season. Personell changes and losses required finding and installing inexperienced and less talented players into the system. Instilling a new culture into the team takes a lot of time, especially after a successful season. It takes a long time to break a paradigm and Hawaii had the “Jones” for a long time.
    In evaluating the 2008 edition of the Warriors, I hope that Coach Mac and staff will sit with non-partisan football consultants for an assessment.
    I believe it will go a long way in developing a new culture and hopefully a brighter future. Go Warriors 2008! Wait til next year!

  34. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:43 am


    we only ran the ball once last night? sorry i was watching the wrong game then. again how do you expect to run the ball if you dont have a proper o-line to make holes for you? it comes down to that. if you watched the games this season teams were bringin in 4 sometimes even 3 and getting through to the qb.

  35. A-House December 25, 2008 10:44 am

    las vegas:

    “how much leading can you do when you are getting the crap beaten out of you”

    My friend, sounds like John McCain, this is when the “true” leaders step forward and are counted. Never played collegiate ball, but I reflect on my military training. Maybe that’s why Mrs A-House always say that I run the house like the military. My response is, “when there is an emergency, you do exactly what I tell you without questioning”.

    And, I agree that the interior lineman did a piss-poor job of keeping the DTs and blitzing LBs out most of the time. Question is WHY? Was it the poor planning to address this facet of the defensive scheme? Did the players disregard coaches and did their own thing or completely miscommunicate to cause the sacks?

    One has to further quietly ask if this is happening with the other parts of the team. If so, then Coach Mack has some really heavy duty work in the off-season. He should also talk to the apparent “seniors to be leaders” on what he expects from them starting today!! Tomorrow is too late!!!

  36. brew808 December 25, 2008 10:47 am

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    Re: #19 – Ehhhh… brudda las vegas – No sulk! I did send you greetings brah! Not my fault if you no read your greetings, or more importantly, ALL of the Warrior Beat! Okay – the border symbols apply to brudda las vegas….. 😆 😯 😆

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  37. ryan December 25, 2008 10:48 am

    They only ran it once in the first half and Pilares got 16 yards off of it. Give all the blame to the Oline if you want to but it makes it a lot easier for any D when all you do is pass and it takes your QB 3 seconds to release the ball with his slow release. After these last couple of games I can see why Alexander was sacked 76 times in 2 seasons of JC.

  38. addahknowjoe December 25, 2008 10:48 am


    what do you specifically propose as a solution? You seem to know all that is wrong with the run and shoot.

    Please share. I’m interested in your perspective.

  39. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:48 am

    ok the break down in STATS

    T-TECH : Passing About 5000 yards total, Rushing: 1427
    Hawaii: Passing 3518 and Rushing, Rushing 1323

    Sooo….T-Tech 3.5 yards passing for ever 1 yard running
    Hawaii 2.69 yards passing for every 1 yard running…

    there you go Ryan. thanks, always good to check stats.

  40. las vegas December 25, 2008 10:50 am

    post # 33 Ditto

    btw our coaches have to play with the hand they were dealt
    just have to go out and find aces and kings to replace the deuces and jokers

  41. ryan December 25, 2008 10:50 am

    By the way, how many rushing yards did Texas Tech have this season?

  42. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:52 am

    sorry forgot the attempts and carry

    T-Tech: Pass Attempts 604, Carr 303
    Hawaii Pass Attempts: 446, Carr 393

    hey I think Ryan meant we should check T-Techs stats to see that the Run and Shoot works well when you SHOOT the ball a whole lot more =)

  43. ryan December 25, 2008 10:52 am

    That’s it you convinced me, the Oline is to only blame.

  44. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 10:52 am

    Coach McMackin,
    Please huddle up the Coaches and get one thing straight with them, that the players are not your friends. You are there to coach, mold, and mentor these young guys to be the best student/athletes they can be and continuosly push them to exceed there own abilities! I love it that you have a big heart and the Aloha spirit but on the field it’s business. Get into your players when they are continuosly f-in up! It is pretty embarassing as a fan and even more as a player when we are known as a team that leads the conference and possibly the nation in penalties, personal fouls, unsportsmanlike conduct, sacks given up, turnover ratios, etc… I’m not bagging on you, but seriously Coach this years team lacked discipline big time! Maybe I can have one of my Drill Instructor buddies come down and instill some much needed discipline in the boys! Regardless, I love this Warrior Team and could care less about what people say about us…but instead of our opponents embarassing us in the last 2 bowl games our team is embarassing themselves on national TV in front of the whole nation!

  45. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:53 am


    post 39 and 42 lay out the stats for running and shootin

  46. las vegas December 25, 2008 10:54 am

    I stand chastised, in the corner.
    But in my defense, did not feel like reading anything after the third quarter.

  47. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:54 am


    i dont think that only the o-line is the problem on the ENTIRE team. but that is an area of grave serious etc etc concern, and the most obvious. there is always room for improvement at all positions.

  48. ryan December 25, 2008 10:55 am

    you convinced me, Oline is to blame for all the O’s problems.

  49. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 10:58 am

    also, ron lee stated that he would like to run a more balanced offense. so we should be seeing more running in the coming years ahead should he be calling the plays.

  50. addahknowjoe December 25, 2008 11:01 am


    Can you still propose a different system that would suit the current players and staff for next year.

    I’m interested in your insights.

  51. Bulla December 25, 2008 11:01 am


    in the aftermath of yesterday’s debacle, i hope that UH does not lose it’s grip on a lot of the recruits that have committed. the game opens the doors for a lot of programs that are rebuilding to ‘grab’ those that are ‘sitting on the fence’.

    Wahington has been coming hard the past 10 days, and with yesterday’s performance, I feel that UH’s stock has fallen a little.

    whew, what a game to blow up…..National TV, Christmas Eve, USA under a blanket of snow……

    we’ll survive, strap it up again and move forward, but this one still hurts….and i wasn’t even there, i was yelling at my tv’s like a maiac or a Tsaiko…..

    Merry Christmas to all the Tsaiko ohana……let’s regroup and move into 2009 with a better focus for our Warriors.

  52. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 11:02 am

    btw how rude of me,



    Eo na toa, eo na toa,e!!!

  53. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 11:05 am

    Is it time for Spring Training yet? You dayum right it is! Lets go boys get in shape, focus, discipline, do what you gotta do to take us to the next level!

    Can’t wait to see the up and comers next year step in and get this team where it needs to be.

    I’m excited to watch Paipai Falemalu in action…Manti who???

  54. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 11:07 am

    Anyway Gang,

    Mele Christmas or Merry Kalikimaka

  55. Mei Ling December 25, 2008 11:10 am

    Merry Christmas!!!

    Hau’oli la hanau, SteveM & Chawan!

    It’s a wonderful day in Hawai’i nei! Great Christmas present.

    More work in the off-season for the team. Merry Christmas to everyone.

  56. roysan16 December 25, 2008 11:18 am

    Good Morning

    The Ugly Statistical Truth
    Posted by Ian Ruder November 12, 2007 13:03PM
    Categories: Football
    The numbers from Portland State’s 2-8 season speak for themselves:

    48 sacks allowed: Out of the 242 teams playing at the Division I level (FCS & FBS), only one team has allowed more sacks with 49. Guess who … your Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Talk about keeping great company …

    And guess who was the OL coach for Portland State last year?

    The same person that is our OL coach this year.He took over an offensive line that returned this year as a seasoned group.Sorry, but …hello…you suppose to do better than this. 59? Coupled with last year’s total of 48 makes how many in two years? Angry? Yes.

    So many people make excuses. And I hate hearing excuses. In fact I have a better respect for coaches like Von Appen(sp?) because he was the type that would just say it like it is.And not sanitize the situation because the head coach wanting to be such a nice guy.I can imagine hearing Coach Von Appen laughing at this group, saying to himself…”gees I haven’t seen them execute one good screen play, shuffle pass, sweep, lateral or wide receiver screens all year long…59 sacks…led the conference in penalties..huh?.”

    Part of the problem, obviously, the head coach hired what I believe is not the best available personal on his staff. I’m a firm believer if your a CEO of a company you take full responsibility for your hirings. So far what I can see this is not good. Building the foundation for a good team starts of with your coaches and assistants…and then I think the recruits will more so be attracted to your program.

    For the Notre Dame fans a hardy congratulations. For the Hawaii fans I stand beside you in times of glory and grief.But I’m deeply sadden of what I saw yesterday. And I guess it’s back to the work shop for all of the coaches. I know publicly Coach Mac would never make retractions, but if he wants to go up and not down he can’t cling on to favoritisms, namely coaches that he hired that he had friendships with, because as he has been quoted as saying, “I wouldn’t trade this group for anything in the world”. Extrapolating from this last statement then, I’m thinking, we’ll never get better.

  57. jm2375 December 25, 2008 11:26 am

    Merry Christmas everyone!!

    Happy Birthday SteveM & Chawan! So, when you were kids did you get double presents or did you celebrate your “half-birthday” in June?

    At the risk of being SMU’d, I’m not going to think about UH football till LOI day. Focus now on basketball and volleyball.

    Rest of family not up yet, haven’t even had breakfast yet. So just killing time. 🙄

  58. Momo December 25, 2008 11:29 am

    Yes it was a long game with many area of weakness on our team.All season long we have those after the whistle fouls which cost us or stop a on going drive…We need to address this for a team wfithout sound control lf their temper will in the end self destruct ASs a long time season ticket holder, it is getting harder to watch this sort of display.

    This was our first year with this Tsaiko group and we had a very grand time, maybe the best in all our years of waching Warrior Football. Mahalo gang…

  59. SteveM December 25, 2008 11:30 am

    Thanks for the birthday wishes.

    I’m surprised Peaches posted before I woke up. She lurks 😐

    Merry Christmas!

  60. drew December 25, 2008 11:31 am

    when the season started, UH was planning to take snaps from under center and feature the running game more in their offense. 14 games later, every snap was from shot gun formation and they only started calling designed running plays when they were 5 td’s down. why are we so insistent on passing every down? UH coaches always answer “passing is what we do.” fine. passing is what you do, but if you always get thumped by bcs teams like this, maybe you should rethink how you do things.

  61. Jason December 25, 2008 11:32 am

    I just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas! Despite the loss, it was great to spend time both pre- and post-game with awesome friends.

  62. Unkanesson December 25, 2008 11:33 am

    Aloha Kalikimaka, Tsaiko Nation!
    And best wishes to all for the new year! (gObama!!)
    Just want to say I appreciate the effort and spirit of the 2008 Warriors — coaches and players — over a tough schedule this season. There are issues to work on — penalties, O-line, etc. — and I’m as disappointed as anyone with the outcome of yesterday’s game, but overall I think they had a good season, and I look forward to improvement next year (a little concerned about attrition on the D side).
    GO WARRIORS in 2009!!
    A hui hou kakou!

  63. SteveM December 25, 2008 11:33 am

    jm2375 — Usually two presents, but I always got at least one 🙂

    Gotta run…lunch at Peaches’s parents house…

  64. Jason December 25, 2008 11:35 am

    Oh yeah, and happy birthday to SteveM and chawan_cut. And happy belated birthday to las vegas. And of course, let’s not forget the reason for the season — Merry Christmas everyone.

  65. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 11:44 am

    ohhh happy b-day steveM!!

  66. HiFlyer December 25, 2008 11:49 am

    Happy Birthday to SteveM and chawan_cut, belated Happy Birthday to las vegas.

  67. Pomai December 25, 2008 12:06 pm

    Just want to thank all members of the WARRIOR TEAM for the past season, it might not have ended the way we all wanted, but they did what all good teams do and left it all on the field.

    Now on to another “Perfect Storm”

  68. Long Time UH Fan December 25, 2008 12:12 pm

    Merry Christmas to everybody! Another beautiful day in Hawaii Nei!

    Happy Birthday to SteveM and chawan_cut and belated wishes to Las Vegas

  69. GRM December 25, 2008 12:12 pm

    Shinen Akimashite Omedetogozaimasu!!
    Mack and the coaches have a lot of work to do. Next year they’ll be better. Go Warrors!!

  70. A-House December 25, 2008 12:13 pm

    Before I continue posting – Merry Christmas to all Tsaikos near and far – may you be blessed this day and every day to come!

    What is it that other good BCS team defensive coaches see that makes them so effective against UH? They see the same game film as Coach Mack and his staff. To be an effective coach, one must make “attention to detail” the most important part of the team – from scouting, to off-season training, to Spring and Fall training, to techniques, to route running, etc. A coach with excellent analytical skills makes it easier to develop players and they, IMHO, should be the ones in the upstairs box. Offensive and defensive coordinators should be “upstairs”, reveiwing a list of probabilities of opponents, and relay the message to the field. Let the “technicians” relay the play into the game and discuss itsy, bitsy things with players. Players who spend time reviewing opponent film may see “tendencies” of their direct opponent which can make or break a play.

    To question WHY is important, but to find the correct solutions, the WHY must continue until the “boss” is satisfied. The “boss”, on the other hand, must possess the WHY skills to know when subordinates know what they are doing and WHY.

    Two things I asked of my staff – bring pencil and paper every time they come to my office and make sure that you are totally ready to brief me or else be prepared to answer many WHYs. Look at a pebble dropped into water and see the multiple rings that radiate outward, and sometimes inward, and see what it touches. When you cover ALL the possibilites, you have arrived! This holds true only if the person in charge has also arrived and is now in the “teaching mode”.

    As a line coach, I would first list all the “great” linemen, gather as much film I can find on each, completely disect what they did from the time they left the huddle until the play is done – position of hands and feet, blocking techinque, etc. Then, teach the skills to players so they learn about the best and how they succeeded. Game day, continue to evaluate and make necessary changes depending on each Individual opponent.

    In OCS, we were taught, “Mine is not to reason why, Mine is but to do and die”. I accepted this, but a time went on, early in my career, I began to question this phrase. Why is it not mine to question why if you are asking me to die for you. This, I’m sure will not sit will with many, however, tell me why it’s not mine to reason why?

    Some one once wrote: “Tell me and I will forget. Show me and I will remember. Involve me and I will understand”.

  71. lava December 25, 2008 12:16 pm

    A lot of lively posts around here.

  72. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc December 25, 2008 12:16 pm

    Transferred over from yesterday’s blog – I was the last person to post

    Mele Kalikemaka Kakou:

    My general take on the situation:

    First of all, there is the Rule Of Three. Every new leader who comes into an existing organization – business, academia, sports, education, ministry – has to deal with this.

    Year One is essentially dealing with the Former Leader’s stuff – and trying to patch the holes, mend fences, and take care of bidness while making change. Watch how Obama handles Year One.

    Year Two is the transition or the bridge year. By now, a lot of things have been changed in terms of policies, but there’s still a lot of stuff left to do and people to replace or shift around. In the case of a sports team, there is also a need to recruit to replace people who are moving on.

    The Second Year is the critical year – look at the difference Bob Nash has made so far this season compared to his first.

    Year Three is the litmus test year. The Boss has been on the job for two full years, the major gaps have been addressed, and lesser priorities have moved up to the top of the list. If, by the time Hawai`i football wraps up its season in December 2010, we haven’t moved along in significant & substantive ways, then it’s time to move McMackin along instead.

    There is a lot to be said about studying organizational management styles so this coming transitional year is when we need to stay on course and make sure that hard decisions are made.

    Turning now to yesterday’s game – this neophyte analyst was truly disappointed at the coaching as well as the playing. I was embarrassed for the fans, the sponsors, and especially for the players.

    That’s it – off to work in the yard before the weather tunrs bad again. We’re recording the Celtics/Lakers game so we can take Saturn The Dog for his final Christmas hike along the Maunawili Trail this afternoon. Last year, I was still not recovered from my accident & the year before that DrDoc was visiting his family in Tennessee. I know Saturn doesn’t understand how important the tradition is for us, but for our first three Christmases together, taking the holiday hike really made us feel good.

    Hope everyone has a safe and happy celebration. With only two of us, it doesn’t make any sense to put up with all the hassles of cooking and then cleaning up. Any suggestions for where to go out for dinner?

    Remember to support the Rainbow Warriors baskeball team – look forward to seeing Jason and the Orange Traffic Cone.

    PS Happy Birthday Orange Traffic Cone and SteveM and Las Vegas

  73. Jack Flash December 25, 2008 12:17 pm

    Aloha and Merry Christmas! I too was excited at the start of the season about the prospect of an actual power run game to complement the pass. But alas, many injuries and player shuffles later, here we are- a predictable offense easily out-manuevered and out-coached. Let’s hope for less predictability next season (and less injuries to our Warriors!) Also- any player that can run a 4.4 40 or better gets moved to cornerback or safety. We need speed!

  74. djmitcho December 25, 2008 12:19 pm

    Mele Kalikimaka to Everyone. Hope everyone stays safe and has a good one.

  75. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 12:21 pm

    Thanks to all of the Warriors for playing hard this year. As fans, we celebrate glory with you, and stand behind you in times of challenge. The bottom line is, thank you, especially to the Seniors. To dedicate your lives to the team the way you have is no small feat, and we all appreciate your sacrifices, which were made so you could be Warriors. Our Warriors. Through good times and bad, you were always there for us, and we are here for you. And to the Seniors once more, a special mahalo. You have been a part of UH’s greatest football moments over the last few years and will always be remembered fondly for that. To the underclass men, it’s there, it’s in you, and we look forward to the coming season as you now take up your roles as leaders and Warriors.

    Blessings on all of the graduates, best of luck in all of your future endeavors.


  76. Jack Flash December 25, 2008 12:23 pm

    DPK- well said. I get nitpicky sometimes about things, but when everything is said and done, the Warriors will ALWAYS have my loyal support!

  77. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 12:27 pm

    And I can personally say, that the Warriors are blessed to have fans as devout as you and so many others who post here, Jack Flash! Merry Christmas, bro.

  78. Garret December 25, 2008 12:27 pm

    Happy Birthday chawan_cut!

    Thank you for all of your videos and for all of the other great stuff that you contribute.

  79. Garret December 25, 2008 12:28 pm

    Happy Birthday Steve_M!

    Thank you for your awesome website and for your hard work tracking all of the mainland Tsaikos and events.

  80. Garret December 25, 2008 12:30 pm

    Happy Birthday las vegas!

    I wished you a Happy Birthday a blog or two ago, but wanted to make sure you saw it here. Thank you for organizing the Cattle Call and transportation to the UNLV game, that really took the Tsaiko group to another level.

  81. Kazz December 25, 2008 12:31 pm


  82. Garret December 25, 2008 12:31 pm

    Merry Christmas everyone! We had a really fun and tiring day so far…kids are napping soundly now. It is raining here so we spent the entire morning home together as a family, which is what we had planned. Great day so far…helps me forget what I watched last night.

  83. Garret December 25, 2008 12:36 pm

    I see a lot of posts focusing on the OL, but it wasn’t all their fault. On several occasions Alexander should have thrown the ball away and he had well more than 3 seconds on a number of occasions. One play that stuck out was when Alexander rolled out on what I think was a screen pass–the play was covered and he could have thrown the ball away because he was outside the tackle box. Eventually the pass rushers got to him, but that was after more than 4 seconds had elapsed after the snap.

    There were obviously problems with the pass protection, but there were also problems with the blitz adjustments. The run-and-shoot is supposed to have sight adjustments for blitzes to provide for quick options when the defense sends more than 4 pass rushers…however, either those routes were not being used or the QB/WR sync was off for those routes.

  84. XxFaithxX December 25, 2008 12:37 pm

    Merry Christmas to all and if I forget, have a safe and happy new year.

    With that out of the way… regard to the o-line coach. I think we were sold a lemon on purpose. When smith was about to/just hired, didn’t our lovely and FORMER o-line coach, “Uncle fester” say that Smith was a good coach, yada yada. Ya know why he said that?? So he can recruit the o-line here easier@!!

    I don’t trust Uncle Fester….no matter how “Local” he acts….that right…”Acts”

  85. Garret December 25, 2008 12:42 pm

    What bothered me even more than the struggles by the offense was the struggles UH had on D. The coaches on the defense are basically the same coaches UH had last year, and Mac had full control of the D last season. The D had mainly seniors who understood Mac’s system and were in their second year in the system…it was *not* a transition year for the D.

    UH couldn’t stop Notre Dame from running or passing. I think at one point Jimmy Clausen was 18-20 (90%!) with the only 2 incompletions being dropped passes. The screens were so effective against UH’s D that they could run them multiple times in a row with no adjustment by UH. The deep passes were effective, the TE was open, etc. Notre Dame scored TDs on 5 straight posessions…it doesn’t get worse than that on D.

    Some are just pointing to the OL for the loss…but the defense was supposed to be the strength of the team and compensate for the struggles on offense. However, the D just couldn’t stop Notre Dame. So, this was a team loss.

  86. Kazz December 25, 2008 12:45 pm

    Now that I got that out of the way, the boys had a good year but ended it on a pilau note.

    No matter how much credit Notre Dame is given, the FACT is that they are still not a “great” team nor are they the kind of team that should have beaten us so badly.

    There is no excuse at all for what happened yesterday.

    I firmly believe this is the worst loss of the year. Worse than San Jose State and the Utah State losses. There are 35 seniors on the team, they were hungry for redemption after almost beating the #13 team in the country, they had MORE time to prepare for the bowl than Notre Dame had, and they didn’t have to travel long distances for this game.

    We had MORE things to build on in the intangibles, but still nothing. We looked like the ones who were distracted. I’m sorry but there seemed like there was no effective game plan in the works at all. What the hell did they do all this time from the Cincy game to Sunday?

    I think we all know how talented this team is and this just makes it more frustrating. For the first time since 2005 did I leave a game before the final whistle blew.

    It was embarrassing. It was like watching a family member being mugged while you can’t do anything about it.

    2009 spring camp is not too far away and it’s back to square one for Coach Mack and Co.

    Still it will take a lot more for my “fandom” to waiver… a lot more.

    In terms of pass protection, ST says it best, “there will be no excuses if this happens again next season”.

  87. Garret December 25, 2008 12:47 pm

    Don’t forget the struggles that the special teams had in this game. Notre Dame blocked a punt, returned a kickoff for a TD, and returned a punt for a TD (thankfully called back due to a penalty that did not actually affect the punt coverage). Special teams struggled all season and is one area in which coaching can most directly compensate for talent.

    Again, this was a team loss and there weren’t many bright spots (Aaron Bain, Sol, Adam, Fale had a couple of great individual plays, Inoke had a great drive at the end, etc.).

  88. 808ike December 25, 2008 12:54 pm

    Thanks. I’ll keep practicing to improve. Hopefully the UH football
    team will do the same.


    It was a pleasure conversing with you. We both agree, it is
    unfair. The BCS was never formed to be fair but out of greed and to
    have a larger separation between the haves(they) and havenots(us).

    It was great to meet more Tsaikos at this T-gate and reacquaint with
    others. Had an incredible time. THANKS!

    MERRY X-MAS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!

  89. Garret December 25, 2008 12:54 pm

    It is nice that Bess is mentioned when they talk about NFL Offensive Rookies of the Year. He is the only player who wasn’t drafted that made the list–most of the others were high draft picks.

    Offensive Rookies: Matt Ryan, Atlanta and Joe Flacco, Baltimore (tie).
    You can’t really separate two rookie QBs taking their teams to the playoffs.
    Runners-up: Chris Johnson, Tennessee; Matt Forte, Chicago; Steve Slaton, Houston; Eddie Royal, Denver.
    Honorable mention: Jonathan Stewart, Carolina; Kevin Smith, Detroit (yes, Detroit); Ryan Clady, Denver; Jake Long and Davone Bess (undrafted), Miami; Dustin Keller, Jets; John Carlson, Seattle.

  90. Garret December 25, 2008 12:56 pm

    This Fantasy Football site thinks that Bess will have a big game against the Jets this week.

    Davone Bess is a fine option against the Jets. He’s developed a tremendous rapport with Chad Pennington over the second half of the season, and the Jets have had tons of difficulty filling the CB spot opposite Darrelle Revis. Revis, by the way, usually covers the opponent’s No. 1 receiver and can be counted on to shut down Ted Ginn Jr.

  91. Garret December 25, 2008 12:58 pm

    Bess is the fourth most productive rookie WR this season…imagine how things would have been if they had used him more in the first half of the season. *12* WRs were drafted in the first 3 rounds and Bess has outproduced 9 of them.

    Of the 12 WRs selected in the first three rounds, four of the first six taken are among the top five producers. Philadelphia’s DeSean Jackson is second (866 yards, two TDs), and Green Bay’s Jordy Nelson (357 yards, two TDs) is fifth. Undrafted rookie Davone Bess (515 yards, TD) is fourth.

  92. XxFaithxX December 25, 2008 12:59 pm

    Agree w/garret #83. Alexander was holding the ball too long and not checking off his receivers…., BUT if you get hit as often as he does/did, then you too would not be thinking quickly….imho

  93. jay December 25, 2008 12:59 pm


    December 25th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
    I see a lot of posts focusing on the OL, but it wasn’t all their fault. On several occasions Alexander should have thrown the ball away and he had well more than 3 seconds on a number of occasions. One play that stuck out was when Alexander rolled out on what I think was a screen pass–the play was covered and he could have thrown the ball away because he was outside the tackle box. Eventually the pass rushers got to him, but that was after more than 4 seconds had elapsed after the snap.

    There were obviously problems with the pass protection, but there were also problems with the blitz adjustments. The run-and-shoot is supposed to have sight adjustments for blitzes to provide for quick options when the defense sends more than 4 pass rushers…however, either those routes were not being used or the QB/WR sync was off for those routes

    garret, espn’s andre ware said the same thing about qb holding the ball far too long. also, the oline did give enough protection on many occassions but the receivers were not open or qb did not see them. andre ware gave me impression that hawaii qb lacked poise, mobility to buy time in the pocket, and was panicking. ware said hawaii qb was looking at the notre dame defensive lineman instead of looking downfield to find open receivers. only looking at game tape will the coaches know what really went on. i tend to agree with you that the oline did not play that bad the whole game. inoke funaki showed a quicker release, better pocket prescence, and feel to the run n shoot off. i think the qb position will open up in 2009 and i really believe that after this game, a new qb will start the opening game next year. hawaii made notre dame look better than they really are, but give credit to the irish for playing their best game in years. i think both claussen and notre dame are good but nowhere near as great as hawaii made them look.

  94. SteveM December 25, 2008 1:00 pm

    December 25th, 2008 at 12:30 pm

    Happy Birthday las vegas!

    I wished you a Happy Birthday a blog or two ago, but wanted to make sure you saw it here. Thank you for organizing the Cattle Call and transportation to the UNLV game, that really took the Tsaiko group to another level.

    Bravo! I am looking forward to September 2009 when las vegas and Rich2176 take us up yet another level with the largest gathering(s) in Tsai-ko history!!!

    I am still Wishin & Hopin’ for the largest Friday night Cattle Call yet in Vegas — in addition to the largest Tsaiko-gate (which still has not been beaten in numbers). Stuff to look forward to next season, along with the UH Warriors team! 🙂

  95. jay December 25, 2008 1:00 pm

    garret, why do u feel the defense struggled so much?

  96. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc December 25, 2008 1:07 pm


    You’re the computer tech – is there some way to do video conferencing for the T-Gate for a half an hour for those of us who cannot afford to travel to Las Vegas or who have family or work commitments which preclude our attending? I’ll be glad to coordinate the Honolulu end with a location and facilities.

  97. Garret December 25, 2008 1:21 pm


    I think that the secondary just couldn’t keep up with Notre Dame’s receivers. Aside from Mouton (who wasn’t the defender on those long passes by Notre Dame), UH’s DBs didn’t have the speed too keep up with Tate. The sad thing is that Tate isn’t Notre Dame’s speed WR–that is the freshman Floyd. Clausen looked at whoever Dowling or Roberts were defending for those TD passes.

    UH’s DBs were good enough against WAC competition (aside from Utah State), but the CBs and safeties had problems with Notre Dame’s scheme and speed yesterday. Weis made far better adjustments to UH’s coverage than the UH coaches made to stop Notre Dame’s offense.

    Recruiting is the first key. The deep passes were a problem all season, which surprised me since Mac is the head coach and the safeties all played last season. Speed is needed in the secondary…though when I think of safeties from last year I think of Patek who is probably slower than the safeties who are playing now, but Patek read the play quicker and got into position better in my opinion.

  98. Garret December 25, 2008 1:23 pm


    Last year’s tailgate was at Makino’s in Vegas and I don’t think there was WiFi available there. Plus, we were all spread out so I don’t think that a single camera at anywhere in the restaurant would give a real feel for what was going on.

  99. A-House December 25, 2008 1:25 pm


    Meant to and forgot to ask if you can handle the Wazzu tailgate/cattle call on Saturday morning (9/12/09), maybe a buffet “brunch” before the game at a place close to Qwest Field? We arrive late Friday night or early Saturday morning ( like 1 am ).

    We will probably stay at the Travel Lodge near the stadium which has a buffet and shuttle ($10 round trip) to and from Qwest Field.

    Still working on finalizing travel/lodging in Seattle and Las Vegas.

  100. al December 25, 2008 1:32 pm

    100 merry christmas

  101. Jack Flash December 25, 2008 1:33 pm

    Garret- i agree. Some of our secondary players were slow and out of position alot. Patek made up for his lack of speed by being in position to make plays. Plus, his bone jarring hits made receivers pay!

  102. chawan_cut December 25, 2008 1:34 pm

    here’s last night’s news coverage

    the world’s not over. the sun rose again today. so the team lost, but one team has to. unfortunately we did. what’s important is we thank the team for all their hard work this year. wish the seniors the best of luck in whatever they do, and hope that we’ve learned and grown this season to make us a better team next year.

    Mele Christmas to all !!

  103. LizKauai (iPhone) December 25, 2008 1:39 pm

    Home at last. Turkey in the oven and potatoes are peeled (mahalo, #2 son).

    How I appreciate Colt. He earned his place as a starting QB and did his job well.
    Our guys need to step up to that level. Right now they seem to be beautiful off-the-bench guys who can save the day in a pinch.
    The starter bears the weight of the team 24/7. He must build relationships off the field that translate into a relationship on the field. We laugh about Colt buying pizza for his oline, but he is a relationship-builder. He understands omiyage. It’s in his nature now but someone had to teach that willing student.

    I’m looking forward to seeing who will step into the spotlights of leadership next season. Looking forward to see who is willing to be the learner that ends up being the leader.

    Warriors, Imua!

  104. chawan_cut December 25, 2008 1:40 pm

    wow, how’d so many people know it was my birthday?

    Happy Birthday to SteveM as well.

    and mahalos to all for the well wishes.

    i used to get double presents as a kid, which was cool, but now only one. its not really my day, its everyone else’s as well. hope everyone has a great one with your friends, family and loved ones.

  105. Hilo Rain December 25, 2008 1:42 pm

    Thanks to all the Tsaikos (football knowlegeable or not) who offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism because you offer possible answers and solutions to whatever you see as problems. To those who just state the problems and offer no answers or solutions and just “put down” the players and coaches, you are using KUKAE criticism. Instead of processing your great observations in the brain, those observations get sent straight down to your da kine.

  106. jay December 25, 2008 1:44 pm

    thanks garret for your answer. do you think we could have done anything differently to put pressure on clausen, seemed like he had all day to throw the football? this game is one of few times where the warriors defense did not seem to attack the qb or were unable to, and that surprised me very much.

  107. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 1:46 pm

    Jim Donovan

    please continue to schedule the best so we can play the best.

    make the tough call, Jim. LET GO Mr. Bolla. 75 people on a Monday nite in the SSC? That is not acceptable, sir. The young women deserve better. We deserve better!

  108. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 2:01 pm

    roysan16 posted this above, and it is worth repeating because it is extremely telling at this point, year 3.

    The Ugly Statistical Truth
    Posted by Ian Ruder November 12, 2007 13:03PM
    Categories: Football
    The numbers from Portland State’s 2-8 season speak for themselves:

    48 sacks allowed: Out of the 242 teams playing at the Division I level (FCS & FBS), only one team has allowed more sacks with 49. Guess who … your Notre Dame Fighting Irish. Talk about keeping great company …

    And guess who was the OL coach for Portland State last year?

    The same person that is our OL coach this year.He took over an offensive line that returned this year as a seasoned group.Sorry, but …hello…you suppose to do better than this. 59? Coupled with last year’s total of 48 makes how many in two years? Angry? Yes.

    if roysan16’s stats are accurate, then … no amount of bluffing and hype will make me feel hope for a better oline. i wanna feel attitude. i wanna feel confident… i wanna feel we have a winnah. i don’t feel dat way, sorry.

  109. Garret December 25, 2008 2:03 pm


    I think that UH didn’t blitz as much as normal, especially early in the game…later in the game some of the blitzes were effective at getting to Clausen (Sol sack, lots of other effective pass rushes). Maybe the coaches were expecting Notre Dame to pound the ball a lot to start the game and were scheming for other things. I know that I was surprised that they threw the ball so much and so effectively instead of trying a power running game with their huge OL. I thought they would establish their running game and play-action first, especially considering how badly Clausen did in the games before the Hawaii Bowl…maybe the UH coaches expected the same thing. Or, maybe the UH coaches thought that Notre Dame would scheme for their blitzes so they would surprise them by blitzing less.

    Or, maybe they had decided that they were going to rely on the front 4 for the pass rush and live/die with that. Remember an earlier game this season they had to do that, as the blitzes resulted in too many big plays by the other team. Unfortunately in this game, Notre Dame’s OL won the battle when UH just rushed 4.

    When you are worried about the rushing attack, you cannot just overload one side and blitz the passer. Notre Dame was multidimensional, a much different situation than teams like NMSU.

  110. Garret December 25, 2008 2:09 pm


    Check out this article about Portland State’s final game of last season. roysan16’s stats were correct.

    The numbers from Portland State’s 2-8 season speak for themselves:

    48 sacks allowed: Out of the 242 teams playing at the Division I level (FCS & FBS), only one team has allowed more sacks with 49. Guess who … your Notre Dame Fighting Irish.

  111. curveball December 25, 2008 2:10 pm

    MERRY CHRISTMAS to everyone.. and again thanks so much for the prayers, emails and positive thoughts.
    Curveball and Kristin…………

  112. al December 25, 2008 2:15 pm

    still a merry christmas….

    this game, quite frankly, i never expected us to beat the irish given the incentives that lay in front of them: play for the coach, play for a winning season, play to break their dismal bowl streak, play to establish the foundation for next year, play in front of a national audience.

    the irish are one of the top 5 programs in terms of talent, money, and faciities. on paper as well as on the field you could see the difference between a national elite program versus an upstart program on the rise like ours.

    the irish was bigger, faster, and stronger. there is no denying that and they came to play. and play they did nearly flawless football for four quarters.

    i am proud of our team and what they accomplished and endured this year. they battled. as stephen mentions there are things to fix and it may take several years just by looking at what we have. but, i like what we are doing and i do believe in three years we will be competitive with anyone we strap it on against.

    go warriors!

  113. Garret December 25, 2008 2:18 pm


    This recruiting class will establish an excellent foundation for the Warriors to be competitive within three years like you state.

  114. warriorfan4ever December 25, 2008 2:20 pm

    I love Hawaii football. I love the fact that we have on our roster a talent that is much like the action we saw with Jimmy Clausen during the Hawaii Bowl game. Shane Austin played in the same area that Jimmy did…Shane set high school records during his senior year and drew many favorable comparisons to Jimmy who was the #1 rated QB in the country the year they graduated. Shane has the quickest release of any of our QB’s, the quickest feet of any of our QB’s, and the eyes of a champion. I love the future of Hawaii football…because we have a secret weapon ready to be unleashed…and I can’t wait to see what Shane will do during spring camp and hope to see him in action during the upcoming warrior season!

  115. al December 25, 2008 2:21 pm

    it is christmas, thus, the 12 hour rule should be in effect instead of the 48 hour rule. i hope the young men of our football team are not hanging their heads today.

    …nuff said

  116. warriorfan4ever December 25, 2008 2:22 pm

    One thing is for sure…we won’t be seeing so many sacks anymore 🙂

  117. al December 25, 2008 2:22 pm

    garret…..your folks made the meanest pan lau lau ever.

  118. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 2:23 pm

    talkin about coachin…

    last nite i saw GA get clocked, and when he stood up he looked at the sidelines..

    there are different ways to look at the sidelines.

    look #1 is like you’re in control, and looking for the next play.

    look #2 is the look like you’re looking for help…

    from where I sat in the South end zone, looking 6t0 yards down the field, i saw GA give the body languate look #2. he looked like he just got clocked….

    coaches left him in….

    at that moment, my mind reconfirmed what i already kinew,

    the man/men in charge was not paying attention to what was happening on on the field and not making the necessary adjustments in the real time. i wuz so disappointed….

  119. Hilo Rain December 25, 2008 2:25 pm

    Sorry, I forgot my manners earlier. To everyone, a MERRY CHRISTMAS and CONGRATULATIONS to all the student-athletes of all sports who graduated this fall. A special thanks to all the non-scholarship students, who give of their time and their efforts for the love of their sport and for UH. Aloha to you and Mahalo for a job well done.

  120. what's wrong December 25, 2008 2:28 pm

    Eh, what’s wrong wit you guys?

    How can you blame Brian Smith?

    He is not the one on the field.
    He is the one who inherited and already, rather, porous oline from last year.
    He is not the one who recruited these guys.
    He is not the one who jumps off the line of scrimmage, time and time and again.
    He is not the one who loses his head after missing a block and getting a fifteen yard penalty.

    And by the way, isn’t there another coach involved with the oline? oh yah, forgot about all this stuff huh?

    Give him a break.

    Oh, and same thing at Portland State.

    Know the facts first before you insert your size 12’s in to your mouth.

  121. d1島 December 25, 2008 2:28 pm

    Happy Birthday SteveM!
    Happy Birthday chawan_cut!

  122. what's wrong December 25, 2008 2:31 pm

    Nope, what’s wrong?

    GA as does all of the qb’s was looking for the next play that the coach was signaling in.

    C’mon now, what’s in your coffee this morning?

    Know the facts first.

  123. Buffoman December 25, 2008 2:31 pm

    I had to read BHF-2’s message twice. I take back my count, the o-line coach has swung and missed BIG TIME, twice. There is absolutely no way he stays, no way.

    Loyalty is one thing, but blind loyalty in this business is suicide.

    I will still hold to my thought on the Q-back race next year. It has to be absolutely wdie open with no lean toward Alexander, none. He did not display any leadership in the toughest of times and that cannot continue, especilayy if we are going to play from behind at times and expect to emerge winners on a high percentage of times. We need leadership.

    Regarding the offense. I believe that Oklahoma has the best offensive scheme if a team is going to depend on the spread. They do 5 wides, one or 2 tight ends, etc. mostly, if not always in a spead scheme. Look at how many point they score, how accurate the passing % is (well they have a terrific q-back). They run well, too and their o-line men are quick.

    I believe that they do this to keep defenses off balance, something that we have failed to do in recent times as the other coaches (as perviously stated) view film of us and see patterns, obvious patterns repeated.

    I am not for dumping the system but stubbornly keeping everything intact is unwise.

    Oh, and while Patek could deliver licks, I still say that no one laid out licks like that skinny kid from Waianae who put a tatoo on Gesser a few years back. Now that kid had wide outs remembering the Waianae license plate number of that truck that just smoked ’em.

  124. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 2:32 pm

    so this is my Christmas present to myself.

    Mr. San Cho Lee, gimme a present fo next year. Gimme a coach or 2 or 3 or 4. gimme somebody who like fight fo Hawaii. I no like him be my fren. I like him be my hero! My grand kids’ hero. My friends’ kids’ hero. Our State’s hero. Na Koa’s hero.

  125. al December 25, 2008 2:33 pm

    happy birthday c_c!
    happy birthday stevem!

    is that why you missed the last tailgate? the cake was good,tho.

  126. d1島 December 25, 2008 2:34 pm

    Agree with Garret re: our DB’s. Too big of a mismatch…”physical superiority cancels all theory”

    If the QB can simply play pitch and catch with a WR irrespective of coverage, it’s over.
    Safety help? Forget it. They were too busy getting beat by the 6’6″ athletic TE….
    If your Safety is running 270 degrees around the TE searching for the ball and comes up empty, it’s over.
    If their DE’s can beat our OT’s (both of ’em) around the edge at will, it’s over.

  127. TOM December 25, 2008 2:36 pm

    I don’t know who posted #2 but I don’t mind the credit!

    Just wondering why, if we were having problems blocking 6 on 5, why we kept insisting on having five receivers instead of keeping one back for blocking. Five receivers would work if we were using more short stuff and a QB that would be quicker in passing but that was not the case.

    The team members have sacrificed much physically and mentally and are to be commended for their time and effort. Thanks Guys!

    To all, a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

  128. d1島 December 25, 2008 2:37 pm

    All that said, with so much superior talent, I can see what all the ND fan complaints are about. How are they coming into yesterday’s game 6 and 6? 🙄

    Maybe more proof that, “you’re never as bad as your last bad defeat or as good as your last big victory.”

    …time for a nap!

  129. 808ike December 25, 2008 2:39 pm

    A-House #70

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc #72

    Very wise individuals.

    One more year may be needed. UH did not put it’s best foot forward by
    recruiting from video tapes in JJ last 2 years. In Coach Mac’s first year,
    only 3 weeks to recruit. That is 3/4 of the class next year.

    Looking for improvements in decision making by the coaches. Nothing
    will matter if coaches can’t make good decisions. In business or
    athletics, one cannot have:


    When good/right decisions are made, then all the other situations discussed
    in the past and present can be rectified.

  130. al December 25, 2008 2:43 pm

    i still hold firmly to the belief that we need to raise the level of talent before we can do anything with it.

    i am not sure if we will ever see the likes of the offense of 06 and 07. we had become spoiled with the oline of 06. also, gone are an nfl quarterback, a starting wr for the dolphins, a wr who got looks at nfl camps(inspite of injury) and later a place on the a cfl team, a wr on a practice nfl team, and a fourth wr who also got an invitation.

    we are paying for the fact that several recruiting years went awry and was soft.

    you can’t coach up how big, fast, or strong a football player is.

  131. Stephen Tsai December 25, 2008 2:45 pm

    I agree with the post about discipline.
    The personal fouls, particular by fifth-year seniors, were inexcusable.
    This is the turning point of the program. I remember after the 11-2 season in 1992, the Warriors went 6-6 the next year. The situation always will be fragile in Hawai‘i. The offseason will go a long way to showing the direction of the program.

  132. XxFaithxX December 25, 2008 2:45 pm

    I think that ND knew, from game tapes, that our Safeties were suspect so they lured UH into thinking that they would run more often, as other teams have on us. That would bring the S’s closer to LOS and then BOOM, drop the bombs deep.

    Very easy game plan and against a coaching staff that does not do IN-GAME adjustments very well at all, the best one.

  133. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 2:47 pm

    Whats wrong….

    Yup, I like you speak up like dat! and speak up for Coach Smith. maybe you right. I hope you right! I not saying fire any coach. I’m saying move em around. At the least, get the coach to ask questions, no give us da brush off like he no what he doing. brudda, da truth is, get plenny peeps who feel he dunno what he doing.

    I really have no factual basis, only my impression from what I’ve seen this whole year, to criticize any of the coaches.

    but this is a fact. I’m gonna do my bestest to make our team a better team. I ain’t waiting for next year to help make em a better team.. I’m going off now, so I no feel like I feel now in da next year.

  134. al December 25, 2008 2:50 pm

    if you still think it is all on the coaching then you got it wrong.

    would a kalani hs (sorry greg) ever, ever have a chance to beat kahuku or st louis or punahou?

    no way.

    …”physical superiority cancels all theory”…l. price

    ps don’t know if greg taguchi is still the kalani hs coach. but, he is an excellent coach with no numbers nor football players.

  135. Lynne December 25, 2008 2:54 pm

    Now that the season’s over, does it mean the end of 17-hour workdays for you? Ha! Merry Christmas, Tsai!

  136. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 2:55 pm

    what’s wrong,

    you know, my cuz said dat da Iolani oline coach could give Brian tips on runnin da o line scheme and yet, we’re supposed to be at the next level.

    i know i know. the oline is only part of the offense. but there were soo many discipline infractions on the offense. the buck stops at the top.

    and most imortant, no cry babies allowed.

  137. al December 25, 2008 2:56 pm

    btw, my comments are not directed at any individual. just airing my opinion.

    i don’t think we can hang this on mack and staff. i do agree that next year should have more of mack’s stamp on his team as well as in the year’s to come.

    what i did like was that he gathered his team in the 3rd qtr and they did seem to play more like a team than individuals.

    i am sure each returning player will know that the next year starts today. it is good that a lot of competition has been recruted.

  138. Jason December 25, 2008 3:05 pm

    The coaching can get better. The coaching NEEDS to get better. There are things I’d like to see, like better grouping on the sideline (for example, get all the QBs together with Rolo — I saw Tyler one place, Rausch one place, Austin one place, Inoke one place). Makes for more effective communication when they are all together; after all, one of them is just one snap away from being in the game. And that’s just one example of how we can get better coaching. But they are growing into it.

    Of course, discipline needs to get better. That goes without saying. I was very disappointed in that last night. I can deal with losses, but I don’t deal well with undisciplined play.

    But don’t forget that we are limited by the talent that we have. It’s not to say the guys we have now are bad, cause they aren’t. And it’s not to say that they don’t work hard, cause they do. But we don’t have Nate Ilaoa in the backfield, Bess/Rivers/Grice-Mullins catching passes, Tala/Herc/Samson/Estes/Uperesa blocking, Leonard Peters playing safety. Players with that kind of talent have gotten or will get into NFL camps. The players we have now aren’t of that caliber.

    I have, for a long time, strongly subscribed to the three year schedule that WassupDoc mentioned earlier. Give Mack his three years to recruit, establish his system and his coaching staff. Everyone is growing into this. It even happened with June Jones — he won in his first year because of talented players he inherited, and because nobody had seen the R&S for a while. (Parallel that to this year, but consider we played a much tougher schedule, and we still could have arguably have had ten wins.) I call this the “overachieving year.”

    Second year is the year everyone leaves, and you need to start building from the ground up; at the same time, everyone starts getting wise to what you do, and they adjust accordingly. That meant three wins for Jones; I wouldn’t be surprised if we struggle next year in a similar manner. The easier schedule will help, but we’re still replacing both slots, both guards, looking at new tackles (and I believe we should look hard at Rausch), and totally revamping our defense and kicking game. I call this the “rebuilding year.” This is the year that will define Mack’s tenure. See also the 2005 season, which was the catalyst for 2006 and 2007.

    Third year is the year I have hope for. The JC guys Mack brought in this year that redshirted will be seniors. The guys he’s bringing in now will be a year into the system. Schedule will be tougher, with games at Fresno, Boise, and Colorado, and hosting USC, but I think they can do well. I call this the “referendum year.” Either we do well, or it’s time to start considering change. Not every great coordinator is a great head coach. I like Mack personally and I think he can be a good head coach, but he has to show it, too. Same as how we all like Colt and think he can be a star, but he’s got to show he can play at the pro level or he may be out of the league in a few years.

  139. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 3:07 pm

    OK, 808Ike- did you hire a typist?
    I’m so glad to see you sharing your mana’o and getting past the technophobia!
    I got a sneaking suspicion that some of our newest Tsai-kos will take the value of this blog to yet higher levels.

    OK…time to get the dinner ready for a drive to Lihue.

  140. Jason December 25, 2008 3:08 pm

    Even Fred von Appen got three years. I’m tired of what we see nowadays, getting rid of coaches after one year. Lane Kiffin, Art Shell; every other coach in the NBA this year, it seems. It seems like everything nowadays is about instant gratification. Well, the world doesn’t work that way.

  141. dom December 25, 2008 3:19 pm


    earlier post wrote about warrior qb shane austin, comparing him to jimmy clausen and has quick release and feet. is he any good?
    have u seen him in practice and can he realistically challenge for the
    top job? your thoughts, i know you have gone to warrior practice before and had a few opinions.

  142. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:20 pm

    whats wrong,

    to a degree you cant blame coaches for everything. a good coach does not a good player make, but a bad coach can sometimes make a good player bad.

    we just played a team that kicked our a$$…ironically their recruiting class is consistently top 10 in the nation and from what i remember may even have been #1 a couple years ago. Yet they didnt do toooo well the past couple of years.

    re: Brian Smith, you can either blame lack of talent in the player or lack of developmental coaching from the coach. Maybe in our case its both. You cannot teach size, 6’4-6’7 would be desirable, but from a technique perspective there is a lot coaching helps improve.

    maybe Smith is a superb coach…but maybe a lot of things in life could have, should have and would have. we can only base his performance on what we see and what we know i.e. portland. sometimes its fun to take risks on people and it works out, other times it plain stupid cuz itll blow up in ur face. Bottom line, the coaches are the captains, they make the money and they have to step up to earn their paychecks.

    Maybe it sucks, but blaming the coaches for the problems is fair game IMHO.

    I look it this way…given a choice who would i rather have Brian Smith a maybe great coach or Coach Cav a proven o-line coach?

  143. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:23 pm


    i hear you. unfortunately thats the way the world is. bang for the buck. also i think when the contract for mack @ $1M came out. I was honestly shocked. I guess nowadays coaches are playing or so much money they are almost expected to get that return on investment.

  144. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:24 pm

    being paid so much money*….having to much x-mas juice.

  145. Stephen Tsai December 25, 2008 3:25 pm

    Wow. Merry Christmas. Lynne Chang has visited the blog!!!

  146. mctruck December 25, 2008 3:28 pm

    I think for all intense and purposes, it would be safe to say that Alexander does well against sub-par and mediocre defenses, but does terribly against teams beyond mediocre.

  147. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:33 pm

    to the 3 year rule. yes its agreeable. but like ALL THINGS IN LIFE nothing is set in stone. you cant just take any coach and automatically and blindly give them a 3 year pass. you still need to analyze, criticize, and all the while be patient and understanding.

    I think that people have a harder time applying the rule more towards highly touted coaches i.e. urban meyer going to florida, neuheisel, etc etc. they see successful careers and assume instant success.

    on the other hand you want to give a chance to “new” coaches…that 3 year pass of sorts. but at the same time if ur not squeezing thinking “is this gonna be another von oppon” then well you have the faith of a Franciscan nun.

    I think for me, i like playing the percentage. Get the highest quality players and coaches money can buy. Look at the record, look at the past successes, the history etc etc and buy accordingly. THis is true for our athletics program, we dont have the resources to take huge risks, we need to play by the percentages.

  148. mctruck December 25, 2008 3:34 pm

    Maybe there was wisdom involved in JJ taking (x-said) coaches with him and leaving the rest behind????…hmmmmmm??

  149. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:36 pm

    one more addition to my

    POST #147

    re: risks.

    see an auburn, a UCLA, a tennesse, a florida etc etc. they can afford risk. you have a few losing seasons and guess what you still get some of the best recruits, some of the biggest budgets etc.

    in Hawaii, you have one losing season and you need to work 5x as hard and be 10x better than the season before that too get back the support. ITS SAD no doubt. but its what we have and its what we gotta work with. knowing that, its important that we put ourselves in the best position to make the most out not season 2 or 3 or 10…but season NOW.

  150. Rainbows DI December 25, 2008 3:38 pm

    I’ll try to take a positive spins on things with the UH program. A 7-7 record after losing most of their offense, a new coaching staff, not a bad performance, in fact commendable considering the schedule.

    Things that need to be done in the offseason:

    Need to drastically improve the physical strength, speed, and quickness of the team. Team speed will be addressed with the influx of JUCOs.

    Offensive line play MUST improve next season. O-Line looked slow, physically weak, out of shape, and undisciplined (game 14 and still having offsides penalties). Why not move Alex Gerke to offensive line since that’s all he’s coached during his career. Maybe move Brian Smith to RB’s coach.

    The Lee brothers need to step it up next season. Perhaps visit some of the more successful programs in the offseason and pick the brains of the OCs and DCs at those schools. Offensive play calling needs to be much better. This isn’t the ILH. Same goes for defensive calls and coverage, (although Coach Mac is there to oversee things).

    Team intensity needs to injected. This year’s team seemed to play without a feeling of urgency and almost lackadaisical at times, IMHO.

    Enough with the personal fouls and unsportmanlike play. That falls on the coaching staff and lack of senior leadership.

    Lastly, it’s apparent that the team’s offseason strength and conditioning program needs to be turned up in terms of intensity and players doing what’s asked of them in the offseason.

    “Oh oh, plastic garbage cans conveniently located at conditioning drills. This is gonna get ugly.”

  151. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 25, 2008 3:41 pm


    winning season and a bowl invite. pretty damn good. proud that hawaii was able to turn things around from the begining of this season.

  152. ai-ee-soos December 25, 2008 3:50 pm

    re: QB Shane Austin

    ST has made comments about Shane Austin, since 2008 spring drills.

    1. You readers should have taken note of what ST said.

    2. ST – will you give your impression of SA, now, while some of us are on the topic?


  153. Edward December 25, 2008 4:03 pm

    I don’t believe that players should ever be dissed. They are the product of recruiting and are only as good as their innate abilities and the coaching they receive.

    Coaches, however, are different. They are paid to put teams on the field that are well-prepared and highly motivated to play and win. When this doesn’t happen, it is reasonable to question whether or not they have fufilled their responsibility.

    From all accounts, the head coach is well-liked and was a positive selection by the players. His position requires him to evaluate his staff and their performance given the talent level they have to work with. The question that needs to be answered is whether or not the head coach can make changes in his staff, if indeed changes are needed.

    Well-respected coaches must often make difficult decisions. Sometimes, being well-liked can be a detriment.

  154. Jason December 25, 2008 4:04 pm

    dom : Austin deserves a shot. I was watching him warm up yesterday during the game, and he’s definitely got a live arm, but the mechanics could be tightened up a bit (and I’d like him to magically grow three inches, too). Same with Alexander, I’ve never liked his side arm and his footwork, and that was really apparent against Cincinnati (although the knee had something to do with that too). Rausch looks the most natural in terms of release, but his long legs complicate things.

    If I’m Mack, Ron, and Rolo, I let those three compete in the spring. They all bring something good and something that needs work on. It’s important that they not only know the offense, but that they work on their physical problems as well. Colt was natural at that, which is why he made things work despite his wacky arm angles. These three, however, need to actually work on it in order to get better; it won’t come magically.

  155. whitey December 25, 2008 4:26 pm

    Merry Christmas to all of our Tsaikos and their families. Was truly an honor to meet and see so many Tsaikos at the tg. I enjoyed the company and game. I believe that Coach Mc will evaluate each coach’s performance and will have his staff do a much better job. I believe discipline starts from the very first day you join the Warriors and this is something that needs to be taken care of right away. I don’t think UH will lose any recruits, but could gain some because of Coach Mc’s personality. May you all have a wonderful dinner and sharing your friendship with all.

  156. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 4:44 pm

    “…son, rememba da wurds ah da mastah”


    December 25th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
    A-House #70

    Capitol -ist/WassupDoc #72

    Very wise individuals.

    One more year may be needed. UH did not put it’s best foot forward by
    recruiting from video tapes in JJ’s last 2 years. In Coach Mac’s first year, only 3 weeks to recruit. That is 3/4 of the class next year.

    Looking for improvements in decision making by the coaches. Nothing
    will matter if coaches can’t make good decisions. In business or
    athletics, one cannot have:


    When good/right decisions are made, then all the other situations discussed in the past and present can be rectified.

    Dare you go. Now da coaches know that WE KNOW what they’re working with. DIS WE KNOW: WE GET PEDIGREE RECRUITS, like da LOFTONs, an da Coaches are NOT making OVA-ACHIEVAHZ of a sizeable number of deze recruits on da team. NOTRE DAME must have done a lot of deep pass patterns in practice, because their timing was down pat in da long pass routes. We do dat?

    and i know this is also the truth. the penalties are the result of the fact that these players were frustrated alot of times. and why were they frustrated?

    ahhhhh the answer is not really rocket science stuff…

    an So so Jason my son my son, i ask you dis in da most sincerest of meaningss… :mrgreen:

    “and what is wrong with instant gratification?”

  157. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 4:51 pm

    an jus wen some taut da mental superioritee ah da Tsaiko constituency wuz fallin down :mrgreen:

    Edward and Rainbow D1 show up wit prose and geneeosity

  158. Jason December 25, 2008 4:53 pm

    Nothing wrong with instant gratification; there is, however, a problem with demanding it and always expecting it. If it comes, then it comes. If not, it’s how you deal with the problem that dictates how things will be in times to come. If we win the WAC next year and win 10+ games, that would be great. If we struggle to 5-8 or 6-7, then the question becomes, How do the Warriors respond to that? The 2005 team responded well, establishing the nucleus of the 2006 and 2007 teams …

  159. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 4:57 pm

    if you don’t risk, you ain’t gonna win.
    you only going get what is handed to you.

    we see that in our late play, when we’re playing conservative.

    Its also like… the difference between a herbivore and a carnivore.
    Both have excellent representatives of their constituency, i prefer the blood thirsty varieties myself. :mrgreen:

  160. Ralph December 25, 2008 5:08 pm

    Jason no wonder you are a 49’er fan, you don’t demand or expect a win, no instant gratification, just the pure joy watching your team even as they go down in flames….

  161. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 5:18 pm

    good one Ralph

    dat was a big kaaaahhh toooosshhhhh!!

  162. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 5:28 pm

    you wanna know what really gets my gawwls 2day?

    da idea dat get one kuku pile buncha pale rydahz whoopin it up in Waikiki while pooah me an sum frenz get da Christmas bluez 🙁

    SCROOGED! CHRISTMAS BEATING doze wurds like 1 keawe thorn deep between the knuckle joint.. dat bugga sore!!!! makes me super irritated!!! and i no more one household to abuse… 👿

    nah nah nah 😀
    keep talking lie dat, i no mo anybody fo blame but myself. 😀

  163. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 5:31 pm


    you gotta no wen fo make da big trowdown. da truth or dare.
    like me fo instance..

    1000 posts befo midnite 2359 hours HST and I go bollahead. 😀

  164. el guapo December 25, 2008 5:42 pm

    Pride. had a great post a couple of weeks ago on his assessment of the O-Line. He is one of the few here who actually played at that level, so just maybe he knows more about the subject than the rest of us.

  165. Pauoa Boy December 25, 2008 5:42 pm

    Ralph – LMAO @ 160 haha…

  166. Brie December 25, 2008 5:51 pm

    Merry Christmas Everybody 🙂

    HEY ST ! This is what my dad does on Christmas Morning 2008.

    ^ 5 Birds. (1 Pheasant, 1 Ring neck pheasant, 2 Gray Francolins, & 1 Black Francolin.) * Two grays actually look brown. 2 Dogs. (Hana- left. Pomaika’i- right.) & My dad.

    ^ The edible parts P:

  167. bighilofan2 December 25, 2008 6:06 pm


    I’m in dis fo da long haul. 5 mississippi. 😀

  168. GA Warrior December 25, 2008 6:11 pm

    Had a few hours to cool down after that embrassment last night. In hindsight a few good things and some bad things. First of all with all the indecision on the coaching staff with the QB situation(too bad Tyler didnt get another chance after proving himself last year) and two awful games against two very beatable teams(SJST and Utah St.), to still go 5-3 in the WAC, tied for second, and get to a bowl game was pretty impressive.

    But I am still not sold on GA, to much indecision, seems to not read defenses very well, takes too many sacks. Too many things have got to change for this to improve. There is plenty of blame to go around, especially on the offensive line. Say what you want, they were not well coached at all. A well coached unit doesnt make the same mistakes over and over again and what was worse there seemed to be no punishment for continued screwups. Having two returning starters, your most experienced guys, constantly being called for illegal procedure and blatant late hits (which just are inexcusable, yet Mac or Smith didnt do anything to discourage it) left us in some too many bad positions this year. You dont change the head coach, but you can change assistants and Smith needs to go.
    Keep the overall system in place, we throw the ball, that is what has gotten us where we are, but Ron Lee is over his head and play calling in crucial times this year has been awful. Hopefully Mac will take a look at his staff and make some needed changes, there is ABSOLUTELY no reason why we cannot be 6-2 in the WAC every year and making a run at the title if we catch some breaks. There is way to much talent on the islands and coming in from the mainland. I hope this disaster leaves a bad taste in everyone’s mouth over the next 8 months so they can know what they are working for in the weight room and on the practice field. Merry Christmas to all of you in the islands and GO WARRIORS.

  169. A-House December 25, 2008 6:32 pm


    your #160 post – ouch, but us 49er fans still hold unto hope as Dwight Clark told me 3 years ago, “our team is down now, but they will be back’!!!

    so Jason, hold them head up high for our time will come!

  170. 808ike December 25, 2008 6:34 pm

    bighilofan2 #159,
    BINGO! DITTO! Right on! 1 area of decision making.
    Many more right decisions must follow to step in the direction towards
    success on the football field.

    LizK #139,
    Can’t believe it, just set personal record for posting in a day
    (3). Previous record (1). HAHA.

  171. Rich2176 December 25, 2008 6:44 pm

    Merry Christmas Everyone!

    Been very busy, and just returned from visiting my folks for Christmas. Watched the game last night during dinner. I’m sure it’s been discussed many, many, many times, but the glaring weeknesses this year that MUST be fixed 1) Special Teams, 2) Consistancy with O-Line Blocking, and 3) Secondary was burned TOO MANY TIMES.

    All in all, it was still a fun team to watch at times and congrats to Coach Mac for a winning regular season with all of the new coaches and personnel.

    Happy New Year to all, and looking forward to meeting many of you during the 2009 Season.

  172. roysan16 December 25, 2008 7:02 pm

    Somewhere on the internet I found this item:

    But there’s a new trend for wide splits, and that’s with air-it-out passing teams like Texas Tech. Traditionally passing teams took very narrow splits to stop inside penetration, Texas Tech takes exceptionally large splits. Their rationale is a few-fold: (a) make the pass rushers come from farther away and enlarge the pocket, (b) open up throwing lanes for the quarterback, and (c) because they throw so much, all they need is a block or two to have an effective draw play — the defensive ends aren’t even really a factor.

    Hawaii as I see it this year having such narrow splits. Having wider splits wouldn’t this have helped Alexander with the passing lanes being wider open, and having less of his passes blocked. Plus opening up lanes where he can take off and run. Wouldn’t this also take some pressure off the offensive line? The Texas Tech coach, Leach saying,”the wide splits were necessary to take those extra rushers out of the play”…. To me this makes sense. And I would defer to the experts, but wouldn’t having a little variation in your offensive package keep the other team on their heels by having the OL mix it up w/both wide and narrow splits? And cut down on the sacks and making the OL so vulnerable to all out blitzes? As I see it we’re one brand which leaves us exposed to excellent defensive coordinators who know how to counter a team with little variation in their offense. And that is, obviously, to blitz all the time.

    A Bill Walsh quote:

    If you have built a tendency (like running inside whenever you go wide splits), you simply self-scout, figure that out, and then confuse the defense by breaking your own tendency. Some of his biggest plays came when he broke his own tendencies.

    How often does Hawaii go away from it’s own tendencies, when it hasn’t even adopted a sound philosophy? The bread and butter plays which require a lot of technique and practice we haven’t done well. When I hear the ESPN announcer tell the story of how Florida practiced a fake punt play 78 times in spring practices tells me that the good teams and coaches don’t stop until they do it right. The bottom line is how many times do we practice a play until we do it right? Judging by not seeing that many new wrinkles in the offense and seeing simple screens and counters not working I’d say not too many. The lack of continuity is so agonizing to watch in all phases of the game this year that as season opened at the power houses Florida, Oregon State, Boise, and ending with Cincinnati and Notre Dame the lack of any ingenuity and variation in our offense and how the OL is so vulnerable(by the play calling-not being deceptive and keeping the opponent on their heels so the oppossing defenses come with all out blitz to the QB) made these losses a lot bigger than they should have IMO. I agree that all the coaches have three years. And I agree with my own thoughts that if the offensive package can execute a few screens, draws, counters, traps and sweeps then it would surely take the pressure off the OL. If this can be accomplished then you’ll see the sack total respectfully back in the twenties. As agreed the coaches have their work cut out for them. And it will be interesting how Coach Mack handles these problem areas.

  173. 808ike December 25, 2008 7:03 pm


    Share more of your wisdom.
    New record(4).

  174. Ralph December 25, 2008 7:24 pm

    A House you got to wait another 50 years for a 49’er awakening-Tittle, Wilson, john Henry Johnson, Nomellini, Joe Perry, McElhenney, Arenas, Moegle, or more recently, Montana and a very good coach with a new offense. The WCO doesn’t work for every coach, ask Wafan and Dimitcho about the seahawks…

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  176. Trev December 25, 2008 8:32 pm

    As has been discussed throughout here, the O-Line is a definite weakness. Go back to last season and you’ll see BCS teams constantly putting pressure with limited personnel, Georgia was able to sack with 3…that’s ridiculous same with ND too. It’s obvious how weak Hawaii is when the line can’t block a sole especially on the corners or when the DB’s give up on a play and plain out get smoked off the line. Aside from coaches being over their heads the payers too are just not up to par with true football programs with the athletes to make big impacts with limited personnel against mediocre non-BCS teams, sorry to say, ’07 was a fluke.

    Teams such as Hawaii have to be better at player development than these other schools since they have to make due with less. Hawaii is a program unclear of its future. Will it become the next powerhouse non-BCS team capable of rivaling the consistency of Utah, Boise St., BYU, TCU… or will it sink down to this level of play. Hawaii needs a huge overhaul, especially practice wise. How can you have players giving up on a play to result in a TD or have 4 missed tackle in which you got a hand on the opposing player…it is obvious practice is lacking. Practice smarter not harder.

  177. jay December 25, 2008 8:44 pm


    December 25th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    I think that UH didn’t blitz as much as normal, especially early in the game…later in the game some of the blitzes were effective at getting to Clausen (Sol sack, lots of other effective pass rushes

    thanks garret

  178. Kekoa December 25, 2008 8:48 pm

    #175 ~ Friggen Spamers! ST get the spam knife out and cut deep and long!

  179. Kekoa December 25, 2008 8:59 pm

    Lots of comments out that match up with the general concensus. I say SACK BHF2! He’s a Rabble Rouser and a miscreant! We don’t need his kind wandering around the Hacienda. Move on Big Hilo…or I’ll have to move you!

    Eh! Sound good eh! I knew I would get your attention big guy. Just cuz you one law man, no make you mo smaht den us guys brah.

    Any wayz…send me a good email addy so I can give you the official photo of your lovely wife holding up her *Christmas Bannah’ for your son during the Hawaii Bowl. I wen spot ’em near da front office of a major Polynesian nupepa representative.

  180. Kekoa December 25, 2008 9:12 pm

    h Mahalos to D-1 & A-Joe for effort to make da “Vanna White” Letters. We had several individuals that were dyslexic, blind, and hard of hearing. Oh?…what side da lettah goin’ be hah?). We gotta hole ’em la’dis oh wat?

    We got a LOT of work to do before the Vegas game! Omigoodness, had couple pukas and even wrong lettahs inside da sentence! Afraid to show the photos taken by a World Class Photo-journalist from field level.

  181. 808ike December 25, 2008 9:15 pm

    Hi Kekoa,
    Thanks for showing your gadget, yesterday. When it comes to techie
    items, I am an imbecile.

  182. whitey December 25, 2008 9:20 pm

    Forgot to thank all the Tsaikos for making our trip to the big city a most enjoyable one. Thanks al and #2 son for being our chauffeur. Thanks to Ralph and Stretch for thinking about our trip home. There might have been a problem at Kahului Airport, but it was due to an unknown craft carrying one fat guy in red suit and powered by 8 reindeers that was landing.

  183. A-House December 25, 2008 9:20 pm


    It may be sooner than 50 years!!!

  184. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 9:24 pm

    oh, hiya.

    so I fas-forwarded through the SHB with hopes of seeing a familiar face or two. Didn’t see much more than BarryM in the corner when a ND TD happened.

    Shore did look nice in HD tho… nice bright colors and such.

    I guess it’s a football tradition but it struck me that the guys sometimes spent a little too much energy on self-congratulations.
    I think a big group congratulations at the end of the game might be more in order.
    Keep head down, nose to the grindstone, take each play as it comes, get the job done and then offer thanks.

    Jason, sorry buddy, but I will not be cheering for the 49ers on Sunday. Nuttin personal, yu unnerstand…

  185. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 9:30 pm

    whitey- glad you guys made it back ok. There was a line of 200 or so people from a bumped Delta flight at the Airport Ohana Hotel last night.

    808Ike never ceases to amaze 😆

    Rich2176- Hiway bud! Hows da camera?

    Trev- thanks for blogging!

    Kekoa- thanks for the wonderful T-Gate yesterday. I fell asleep sooner than I wanted. Glad to see Mrs. Kekoa having fun too!

    A-Joe and Sports- mahalo for everything!!!

    So- after I delivered the turkey and taters to the KEO feed, I came home, stripped the carcass, made gravy, made instant mashed taters for us and opened the homemade cranberries my daughter made for T-Giving. WOW.

  186. jon December 25, 2008 9:31 pm

    quotes from chicago-tribune-“They’re still talking about: Hawaii’s horrendous pass defense, especially playing the ball in the air. On at least three first-half plays, two of them Irish touchdown catches, the Warriors defenders were agonizingly out of position when there was a play to be made. Cornerback Jameel Dowling, in fact, complained about a push-off while Irish receiver David Grimes was still in the process of making a touchdown catch.”

  187. old warrior December 25, 2008 9:48 pm

    Enjoyed the effort our players put out this year! Anyone question why we want the shade in big afternoon games? It doesn’t seem to affect good teams. Better to wear our home uniforms, be the home team at home, don’t you think?

  188. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 9:51 pm

    The best thing about yesterday – besides the Tsai-ko fellowship, of course- was the huge turnout for the SHB.
    Mahalo to everyone who showed up- especially those who came from distant lands.

    Mahalo to Sheraton Corp. for sponsoring a very important event…and congratulations to Dave Maitlin and his crew for putting it all together!

  189. 808ike December 25, 2008 9:58 pm

    Tsaikos are intelligent in addressing situations/problems on the
    football field. Many of the items discussed or solutions brought to
    the forefront, are valid. Situations/problems are the end result. A
    decision must be made to obtain a result. A mentor shared a
    wisdom of his:

    A decision one makes is a reflection of what will happen in the future.
    Decision coaches make is a reflection of what will happen on the field.


    One sees the area of improvements the TEAM needs to pursue
    next year. All situations/problems can’t be rectified in 1 year because
    some have higher priorities than others, but observe the progress. If
    progress is made, the equation above is manageable and the TEAM
    is advancing in the right direction. If little or no progress persist, then
    an evaluation of the problem area must be addressed and changes
    must occur. Don’t want to point fingers at anyone, just want to give a
    chance and opportunities to find solutions to the problems.

    If this is unacceptable, another mentor shared this wisdom- veridical
    but rash:


    new record(6)

  190. 808ike December 25, 2008 10:06 pm


    Wish had someone to type the last post for me. Took 5 Hrs to type.

  191. Kekoa December 25, 2008 10:24 pm

    Egads 808ike! Great post at #189.

    So now we have an organized mind to go with the exceptional culinary skills! Hmmm…Tsaiko for sure! Nevah mind the techie toys, you got it goin’ on my brutha!

  192. chawan_cut December 25, 2008 10:28 pm

    UH bball team sings Jingle Bell rock

    more post hawaii-bowl game news

  193. Jason December 25, 2008 10:35 pm

    Ralph: Ouch. That was cold. When your Raiders suck as much as they do, I guess all you can do is knock the other teams down with cheap shots like that. 😀

  194. LizKauai (iPhone) December 25, 2008 10:40 pm

    Jason, Bwahahaha. OMG. 😈

    I’m uploading pix to Picasa.

  195. Kekoa December 25, 2008 10:40 pm

    Hiya Liz! ~

    Thanks for the props, but I gotta pass all the accolades on to Koakane, Ralph, Hi-Flyer and our newest member, 808ike. This was the reserve, backup grill crew for Kazz & company.

    Glad you noticed Mrs. Kekoa was having a good time. She’s had some problems with her meds lately, trying to get them balanced. Even while we tail-gated, she was doing her lab work and exams because her doc was leaving for Christmas vacation last night and wanted to help her get better. Glad she was able to come back and play cards with Koakane & crew aftah da game.

    Hey!…you wave a pretty good *letter* sign yourself! BTW Thanks for helping make the Warrior cheer a resounding one from Section ‘C’ You notice how we kinda got some support from the fans around us, and even da 2 haole guys in da front!

  196. Kekoa December 25, 2008 10:59 pm

    Now Jason…mind your manners when addressing your senile citizens. They can’t remember how long it’s been since they had a decent owner…oh try wait…NEVER! Hehehehe.

    Ralph, we know there are other long suffering Oakland Traitor fans on the blog, so don’t mind us. We’re just funin’ wit cha! As far as having to deal with the Coltster coming to the gay bay…well, he will just have to wait his turn.

  197. addahknowjoe December 25, 2008 11:01 pm

    ST- You need to work on your “exit stage left” from the T-Gate. It’s too “Batman” like. We’re talking to you when suddenly you just vanish! Perhaps a simple, “OK I going. Goodbye everyone” would be suffice.


    At first everyone thought you may have caught a ride with your brother on his bike. Which got us all thinking: When your brother is packing you, do you:

    A.) Hold on to the back of your seat.
    B.) place you hands on your brother’s waist
    C.) give him a full bare hug (Your right arm crossing over his pectorals, your left arm crossed over his abdomen) and bury your face and cheek into the nape of his neck


  198. al December 25, 2008 11:08 pm

    yah, i didn’t even see batman nor did he even greet those relegated to the ahouse tent. then, i find out he was dea? hey, i wasn’t in the restroom that long was i?

    oh well, the #2 son wanted to meet him.

  199. Jason December 25, 2008 11:08 pm

    My bro-in-law asked me today, “What do you and your friends call yourselves?” I said, “Tsai-kos.” He said, “Spell it,” so I did. He said he saw a guy yesterday wearing a Tsai-ko shirt, with something written on the back. We figured out that it was addahknowjoe that he saw. 😀

    Speaking of which, he might e-mail you about something. Said he wants to get a banner for a family reunion; I figured send some business your way. 🙂

  200. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 11:20 pm

    OK- So I gotta also recognize Mr. A-House’s bro Ed and his wife. What a fun couple! We covered the 6th F topic pretty thoroughly afterhours (Fishing).

    AND! Mahalo to Momo! I am getting pretty jazzed about a hydroponics project. My #2 son even spent a bunch of hours in the back yard today making it look like a place Momo might like 😉

    T-Gate pix and a few videos are up:

  201. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 25, 2008 11:24 pm

    Haha- Kekoa.. When W-Doc with us in tow pulled up to our favorite guard, he said “password”? We said the usual… then the unusual, as he consulted his clipboard… finally I remembered your real name and he said, oh, ok….

    You know you are really Tsai-ko when you remember only blog names!

  202. Mad Dog December 25, 2008 11:32 pm

    I happen to sit next to a Notre Dame fan at the game. He flew in from the mainland Tuesday for the game, and was returning on the red eye flight after the game to get home for Christmas. Before the game, we had a great conversation comparing our teams. We agreed it was going to be a good game.

    After our first defensive and offensive series, it was obvious we were losing the battle of the lines. We have complained about our O-line, but our defensive line was pushed into the ground. Their blockers were literally blowing the linebackers out of the way. I told my Notre Dame fan it does not look good for the Warriors. Without strong line plays, everything else suffers.

    At the half, I told the Irish fan that we make good half time defensive adjustments, but not so for our offense. After a few minutes, it was obvious nothing was going to change. It was downright embarrasing. The Notre Dame fan felt sorry, and even offered to buy me a beer.

    I’m glad I sat next to that supporter. He gave me insights to the Irish team. His presence probably calmed me from becoming a negative lunatic. We agreed that Notre Dame has lots to look forward next season while our future looks grim.

    Coach Mac has his work cut out for him. It’s not like he brought in a new offensive and defensive scheme. It’s still the run and shoot. And it is still his defense from last year. The learning curve should not have been that great. This team has come a long way from it’s first game with Floriday, but they still did not improve on some major points.

    I remember our last outing with Notre Dame during the Von What Happen days. That gave was more exciting. And the Notre Dame fans were respectful and a joy to be with.

    Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas.

  203. Kekoa December 25, 2008 11:35 pm

    Liz ~ Thanks for jogging my memory! I finally got to meet our distant veteran blogger from the “Land of the Morning Calm.”

    Good to see you at the t-gate representing the *FBI* Whew!…I thought maybe Homey would have to do an ‘Esme’ if you were there on business. Then I realized maybe that’s the real reason he didn’t come.

    You looked like you were very happy to be home TC, even if it was very just a short visit. Happy trails to you my friend, on your return.

  204. Kekoa December 25, 2008 11:41 pm

    Liz ~ I forget my real name sometimes myself, and have to refer to my Ceded Lands Passport issued from the Kingdom of Hawaii.

  205. SteveM December 25, 2008 11:42 pm

    Liz — I have found that at the spur of the moment, I will say the blog name — even if I know the real name. Somehow, recalling the real name takes concentration… 🙂

  206. Kekoa December 25, 2008 11:45 pm

    Calling Big Hilo Fan numero dos!

    Check your email for photos from the SHB and your “Bannah” as seen from the un-forgiving lens of the world reknown photo journalist we all know and love!

  207. Mad Dog December 25, 2008 11:47 pm

    And another thing. Except for the opening ceremony with the impressive helicopter flyover and the great half time show, didn’t it seem like a regular UH game? There were the same sideline ads, the same promotional events between quarters, the same displays on the jumbotron. There were no battle of the bands. Heck, Notre Dame didn’t even bring their band. No drum line. No cheering battles between the two teams. No special bowl banners. No fireworks, except the illegals. Even souvenir items were lacking.

  208. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 11:49 pm


    Listen to me carefully. Your name is Kekoa! And you’re a Warrior Beat Blogger! A damn good one too! 😆

    Sweety sez to tell you that she’ll be giving you a call soon. Things have been kinda hectic round here lately…

  209. Da Punchbowl Kid December 25, 2008 11:56 pm


    Continued prayers for the Missus. Nice to see you back on the blog.

  210. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 12:01 am

    Sooooooo um… Does anybody think that Notre Dame is going to have a good team next year? I couldn’t help but feel like I was watching them “turn the corner” as a team. Granted, UH made it look easy for them, but they did seem to have some talent and it showed.

  211. 808ike December 26, 2008 12:06 am

    Roysan16 #172,

    This works well for Texas Tech because of the skill set of the o-line.
    UH o-line is not the same as theirs. IF UH widens the gaps, one
    creates a bigger problem. It makes it easier for the blitzing LB to
    shoot the inside gap or a looping DT. O-line wasn’t the only ones
    causing QB sacks, RB missing their blocking assignments. RB’s
    forgot about the delay blitz by LB’s. RB helps OT blocking DE and
    forgets the delay blitzing of LB. Can’t see everything because too
    many things are happening at once. Notice a few things.

    Another situation of note, the SB and WR can’t read blitzes. When
    a blitz is on ,they need to cut their routes or run shorter routes. COLT
    and company ran the offense to near perfection. When the QB is
    in trouble, the short receivers go long and long runs to the QB to
    create chaos in the secondary. A DB may run into another DB and
    have a receiver wide open, which we experienced for 2 years. Don’t
    see it in this group. RGM and company continuously ran to find holes
    in the defense. With this group when the route is completed, they
    stand around and wonder what to do next. When Colt ran out of the
    pocket, he generally threw the ball to a receiver. Greg runs with the
    ball because generally there is no receiver open. The conclusion,
    the entire offense needs work. Others have provided valid
    situations and this is only one area of improvements. Not a coach,
    just played organized football.

  212. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 12:08 am

    *listens to the crickets for a while…*

    Good night everybody.

  213. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 12:11 am

    Good stuff, 808ike.

  214. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 26, 2008 12:13 am

    Mad Dog- since you brought it up…
    I was very disappointed that Notre Dame’s band did not come. One of the highlights of the Sugar Bowl for me was the “battle of the Bands”. I was counting 22 Sousaphones for the amazing UGA Band!

    But I must say that the UH Band is one of the best ever. They represented to the MAX.

    Mr. Maitlin, please encourage next year’s teams to Bring their Bands for a good old-fashioned college half-time blastoff!

  215. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 12:16 am

    Hey Liz-

    Have a good night!

  216. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 26, 2008 12:18 am

    DPK- love to Sweety and yourself! Hope all your projects find great success!

  217. las vegas December 26, 2008 12:28 am

    ND lost money coming to this bowl game, thus no band.

  218. 808ike December 26, 2008 12:28 am

    Da Punchbowl Kid,

    Thanks. I’m venting.

  219. Jason December 26, 2008 12:31 am

    808ike: Awesome, someone who understands. I love talking football with you. 🙂

  220. 808ike December 26, 2008 12:32 am

    Good night to all!

    New record(10)

  221. 808ike December 26, 2008 12:34 am



  222. las vegas December 26, 2008 12:53 am

    I think the O-Line issue has been beaten to death.
    I have joined the chorus complaining about them, but truthfully we start five guards every game.
    These young men try their best, but are SLOW and non-intuitive blockers playing out of position.

    The biggest reason for UH’s downturn this year is Tyler Graunke’s screwing around.
    Class room difficulties and whatever other unmentioned issues he had, kept the obvious starting QB off the field.
    TG knows the offense inside and out, has great mobility, and has proved that he can be a winner and a leader.
    GA and the other QB’s could have sat on the bench learning the system instead of getting his bell rung weekly.

  223. 808ike December 26, 2008 12:55 am


    Previous 4 receivers blocked down field for each other. Haven’t noticed
    it in this group. NO YAC!!!!

  224. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc December 26, 2008 1:10 am

    Has next year’s schedule been finalized? If so, where can I see/download it.

    All I know are the dates for the two away games in September – Washington State and UNLV. What other non-conference games are scheduled? Any other BCSers in 2009 who might have a slight chance of finishing over .500?

    It’s been interesting to read the comments & analyses here; however, in the words of our late unlamented Athletic Director, at the end of the day, we will have zippodezero impact on what the coaching staff will or won’t do.

    Sorry, I should have said former unlamented Athletic Director unless he’s shuffed off this mortal coil without saying anything.


  225. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 2:22 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    i going look my email laters. thanks.
    btw, i’m on da ceded lands too. so no make fun ah my backstreet
    linguistics. 😀 wat, just because i live upcountry now? 😛

    but getting back to Warrior football. this coming season starts now. had one football league just went katoosshh! get coaches available. we have coaches that now have time to study self evaluate, inspire. recruiting is one phase of coaching. .

    Roysan172. Trev176, Mad Dog202., thanks for the insights. When Chicago is writing like that, it tightens my jaws.

    this is no time to be resting on your laurels. no moa laurels right now.

    quitters never win. WINNNERS NEVER QUIT. some of our guyz stopped playing before the whistle blew. Happened right in front of me.
    I swear, I wuz crucified as our guy got TORCHED on national tv.

  226. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 2:35 am


    my addy is gleeloy at gmail dot com. no mo pix yet.

  227. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 2:47 am

    whitey reminded me of a very good point. my friend is not his friend. he had a crappy experience with my friend. i understand his point.

    so how does one help our team? someone said that coaches don’t listen to us. but i know for a fact that is not true. so, in keeping things positive, this is my 2 cents.

    we want the University to have a great 2009. UH Fball is our State team. We have time to bring in teachers. And if our coaches don’t want to be taught, or are afraid to be taught, or have some kind of mental block about being taught, or are too good to be taught, then I say to Coach McMackin,

    get some coaches who can be taught. you can’t be a good leader if you can only smile, talk nice but cannot be taught.

  228. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:02 am

    on XMas eve, on national tv, our secondary got torched. our d got torched. our o got torched. our special team got torched.

    so I say to all da football coaches:

    don’t be afraid to fail, if you can learn from the experience. so go learn from the experience. don’t blame the players. blame yourselves.
    go ask others besides yourselves, what they see is the problem with your teaching method.

    you are great people, coaches. us Tsaikos want you to succeed. we want you to be our heroes. i’m looking for heroes on my football team’s coaching staff. I’m not looking for yes men, I’m looking for scrappers who’ve got each other’s back.

    But first of all, I would thank all the coaches for giving 101% to UH and each other and the State this past season.

    Go Warriors!

  229. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:04 am

    i’m tinkin ah ah nu record but modesty is in day way….

  230. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER December 26, 2008 3:04 am

    sleep is good

  231. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:16 am

    who said our guyz wuz out of position on 3 plays, 2 resulting in TDs?

    what you think they saying about UH Football now? Central Arkansas is thinking they get chance! Even Weber State, Portland State, Linfield think they would get chance cuz day can outcoach us? 😀
    nuttin like gettin da motivational juice going. 😀

  232. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:19 am

    ahem, bring da lips closa 😀

  233. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:25 am

    fastga no mean nuttin if yu goin da wrong way or yu outta position.

  234. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:26 am

    coaching young people…it starts with the mind!

  235. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:27 am

    sleep is good. nite all.

  236. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:41 am

    Coach Mack,

    We wish you a Happy New Year! reminder: with the same 6 people in a canoe, moving them around you can go from last to first place. no fooling. but you gotta move em around once you’ve had a chance to evaluate each person. their strengths. and weaknesses.

  237. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:44 am

    coaches have to remain driven. the team is countin on you. team, that includes us.

  238. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:55 am


    you got flexibility besides retirement option to improve your coaching staff. the money angle is the least of your problem with the coaches, the ego is the biggest problem. even the mightiest lions retire or grow out of their domain. timing isn’t everything, but on the other hand it is everything. timing for an improvement is now, January 09. giving notice is an honorable thing. don’t be wishy washy about this one.

  239. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 3:59 am

    I not lookin at Jim D for help on this one. He already get his hands full wit Bolla. 75 at last Monday’s game in SSC. tisk tisk. He gotta deal wit da coach and da coach’s wife. tisk tisk tisk. tanks Herman yu wascal yu

  240. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 4:09 am


    maybe you go Jamaica man! cool runnings. 2 ahda fastest buggaz at China Olumpics. tell em we got Bob Marley wannabeez here, sollyz wit ovastufft pantz, talk funnee kine. 😀

  241. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 4:13 am

    ho boy

    tunda an lightnin ova heah big time, pourin rain on da Hamakua.

  242. Stretch December 26, 2008 6:14 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    Almost pau the 48 hours so need to move on to next year already. Enough talking about the Hawaii Bowl. I am sure Mack knows what needs to be done to improve the team and he will do what he can to take care of them.

    It’s going to be a little slow period right now until the LOI day. I wonder what ST will be talking about??

    Time for me to get ready for another busy day of marketing. I hope everyone had a great Christmas.

  243. jm2375 December 26, 2008 6:15 am

    Good Morning Tsai-kos!! *banging on the clubhouse door*

    Wea errybody stay? Time fo go work, gunfunnit. 🙂

    Hope you all had a great Christmas.

    Gotta do somethings and den head ova da mountain. Stops to make at a couple of stores before heading in to da office. See ya in the next post, unless ST no going get up till noon. 🙂

  244. jm2375 December 26, 2008 6:16 am

    Howzit Stretch. So where’s marketing today? Wessai?

  245. Kekoa December 26, 2008 6:25 am

    jm2375 ~ I heard you da 1st time my dear! Thanks for the gentle wake up call…I’m outside nailing my old rubbah slippahs around da club house to soundproof it from you, Esme and BHF2 makin’ al kine noise!

    Good Aloha Friday Tsaiko Ohana! (Can you believe Christmas is pau now?)

  246. Kekoa December 26, 2008 6:32 am

    Good Morning Stretch!

    Much mahalos again my friend. Very unique, very clever and most memorable are only a few words we use to describe that special offering. Have a great *last* day of work for the week.

  247. whitey December 26, 2008 6:32 am

    bhf2, hope you and your family had a great and merry Christmas. I went to see the rest of the families and it was very nice.

    Good morning Tsaikos and a post Merry Christmas.

  248. Kekoa December 26, 2008 6:48 am

    BHF2 ~ Try check your email again! Get limo ‘ele’ele hangin’ all ovah da buggah cuz you wen holoholo wale wit da *Ho-Ho man* da pass couple dayz.

  249. Kekoa December 26, 2008 6:54 am

    Great Maui Morning to you Whitey!

    Got a call from da stadium mgr yestahday. He said you left your letter sign unda-neet your chair in Section ‘C’. It’s ok ’cause he goin’ give ‘um to Vanna ‘fo use on top da Wheel of Fortune.

  250. Garret December 26, 2008 6:57 am

    Has next year’s schedule been finalized? If so, where can I see/download it.

    All I know are the dates for the two away games in September – Washington State and UNLV. What other non-conference games are scheduled? Any other BCSers in 2009 who might have a slight chance of finishing over .500?


    The WAC hasn’t finalized their 2009 schedule yet–they are always late, probably because WAC teams (especially UH under HF) are normally late in finalizing their non-conference schedules. However, the non-conference games are set.

    09/04 Central Arkansas
    09/12 @ Washington State (in Seattle, not Pullman)
    09/19 @ UNLV
    11/21 Navy
    12/05 Wisconsin

    I don’t think that Washington State will finish over .500, but Big 10 Wisconsin quite likely will end up over .500. None of the other schools are in BCS Conferences, but Navy will probably be going to a bowl game (they actually already have their bowl tie-in set).

    Navy is probably my #1 wish for each year for UH’s home schedule, given that they are a good team, get great media attention, have a natural tie-in with Hawaii, and they aren’t as worried about losing money due to travel costs. It is too bad that Navy likes to end their regular season with Army (I understand that tradition, it is a great one), as playing Navy during the first week in December would be great since their team could be at Pearl on 12/7 to pay their respect.

    For the WAC schedule, BSU and Fresno State will be at Aloha Stadium and SJSU/Nevada will be road games for UH.

  251. Garret December 26, 2008 7:02 am

    I think that it is great that Obama took the time to do this:

    Before sitting down to his own Christmas dinner yesterday, President-elect Barack Obama spent about an hour shaking hands and taking pictures with more than 100 Marines and sailors gathered for a Christmas Day meal.

    Obama, wearing a blue short-sleeved shirt and dark slacks, walked from table to table greeting people, many of whom stood up to shake the president-elect’s hand, snap a photo with him or grab an autograph.

  252. Garret December 26, 2008 7:06 am

    This is really, really bad news for the Hawaii Bowl, especially because a team like Notre Dame is highly unlikely to be available next year. Until the Hawaii Bowl pay-out is increased, teams will continue to lose money on the bowl game and conferences will be reluctant to give the Hawaii Bowl a top choice of teams.

    The Hawai’i Bowl is scheduled to get the seventh pick of bowl-eligible Pac-10 teams, if the conference qualifies that many for the postseason.

    Had Matlin not been able to land the Fighting Irish, UH would have likely been matched against a team from the Mid-American Conference or Conference USA.

  253. Kekoa December 26, 2008 7:07 am

    Howzit Duffer! ~ Was good to see you and your ‘Pi-loot’ Pahtna at da t-gate. Thanks for helping us make big noise inside da Aloha slaughter house.

    Had good fun aftah da game! Prolly see you guys in Maui end of Jan.

  254. whitey December 26, 2008 7:13 am

    Good morning Kekoa and Garret. Braddah Kekoa, i may have had plenty biru, but my letter card neva have any letters. was blank on both sides.

    Garret. was nice to meet your mom and dad. they were kind of shocked because i told them i knew your uncle kaname from a long time ago. thanks for the travel schedule. will try to make the 9/19 game at UNLV.

  255. Postmanke December 26, 2008 7:14 am

    I am one who is anticipating to watching the Navy game and view it as a sneak peak of what our offense will be like in a few years.

  256. Garret December 26, 2008 7:28 am


    I’m glad that you got to meet my parents and mentioned that you knew Uncle Kaname!

  257. whitey December 26, 2008 7:32 am

    ok, it is time to join the gang for some breakfast of champions on a very dreeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrryyyyy day. raining and no look like going give up. have a great day and take care.

  258. roysan16 December 26, 2008 7:43 am

    Good Morning

    Congratulations to Rick Ellerson

    I just heard on the radio that Rick Ellerson was named the next Army head coach. A ’77 grad of UH/ a 4 yr. player at LB. Is that now 5 head coaches with ties from Hawaii that are now head coaches in D-1?

    One of the highlights I remember seeing this year is his Cal Poly team almost upsetting Wisconsin. The Navy-Army game will be interesting, with the Navy coach also from Hawaii. It’s even good that some of the boys from islands might end up playing for Army. This is good all around.

    His coaching resume is impressive.
    Army, Dec. 26, 2008-Present
    Head Coach

    Cal Poly, 2001-Dec. 25, 2008
    Head Coach (56-34)
    Seven winning seasons
    2005 FCS Playoffs
    2005 Eddie Robinson Award Finalist
    2008 FCS Playoffs (No. 8 final national ranking)
    2008 Eddie Robinson Award Runnerup

    University of Arizona, 1997-2000
    Defensive Coordinator
    1997 Bowl Champions
    1998 Holiday Bowl Champions

    Southern Utah University, 1996
    Head Coach (4-7)

    University of Arizona, 1992-1995
    Assistant Head Coach
    Defensive Line/Special Teams
    1992 John Hancock Bowl
    1993 Fiesta Bowl Champions
    1994 Freedom Bowl

    University of Hawai’i, 1987-1991
    Defensive Coordinator

    Calgary Stampeders (CFL), 1986
    Defensive Coordinator

    British Columbia Lions (CFL), 1984-1985
    Defensive Line
    1985 Gray Cup Champions

    University of Hawai’i, 1981-1983
    Defensive Line , Outside Linebackers, Special Teams

    Cal State Fullerton, 1980
    Defensive Line, Special Teams

    University of Idaho, 1979
    Linebackers, Special Teams

    Arizona Western College, 1978
    Defensive Secondary

    University of Hawai’i, 1977
    Defensive Line (Graduate Assistant)

  259. FB Fan December 26, 2008 7:46 am

    time to get rid of UH’s O-line coach

  260. Buffoman December 26, 2008 8:01 am

    First, Edward was spot on with his comment. We do not chastise players they are ther doing the coaches bidding.

    Great article by Ferd. He must not be too happy. Good to see raw commentary. Hope someone is listening and not shoot the messenger.

    I see where Coach Mac is stating that GA is his #1 going to camp. Reasonable. That being stated, someone better sit with this young man and have a crash course on Leadership 101. Final exam question: When you’re getting you a$$ kicked, fans screaming at you, team out of sync, what do you do? !). Make monku face when walking to the huddle to let your teammate know that you’re with them and just want it over. 2). Start watching out for yourself to avoid being hit again by one of those oncoming d-line guys and not adjusting to a quicker read? 3). Suck it up, do the Peyton Manning and WILL the team to out perform?

    If this leadership stuff does not happen, no strong arm, “Some good things done” in winnable games will help GA make that next step up such that when things start slipping as we saw in the Cincy game and recent ND disaster when he is on the big stage in a bigger game. Real leadership happens when stress goes way beyond what is normal. Haven’t seen that.

    So as all seem to be saying, let’s give the coaches another chance for 2 more years (3 years to show, right?). I’m okay with that, but be aware that real, noticable improvement is expected.

  261. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 8:11 am

    Goood morning Tsaikos everywhere.

    I am not going to cry just because its cold and wet outside. Gotta think ah da bright side. when the rain lets up and the clouds go away, going get kuku pilah snow on da top ah da 2 mountains. 😀 Happy Weekend coming, everyone!

  262. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 8:21 am

    Howzit BHF2!

    I saw you wakin up da chikkins again dis morning. Hows yous doin today? Did you read Da “Ferd’s” column?

  263. (Jesse) James December 26, 2008 8:24 am

    Good morning Tsaikos…well, that was a pretty ugly ending to a season where I thought we did better than expected. Things will need to get better next season….especially on the O-line…hopefully the recruits we are getting will make an immediate impact….

  264. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 8:34 am


    good morning, belated merry XMas and happy holidays from da hale my friend! hope and wishing all is well with you and your family.


    did you read Ferd dis am? i’m telling you, da bradda is reading da blog.
    one mississippi, 2 mississi… check out #167 above.


    ferd has it right. instant gratification

  265. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 8:43 am

    okay okay, i have identified the problem. you gotta put da 2 Lees on the same side ah da ball, defense. one on top da odda. and remind them both: no favoritism. and put Miano in charge of offense.

    Miano is a great role model. but he lets the players talk back to him. the next time that skinny kid yells he not interested in school, only football, I’d be making that bradda run around the whole school and miss practice that day. you gotta get control of the reins. you da rulah! rule!

    on da positive side, get plenny graduates. Dat is VERY VERY GOOD! 😀

  266. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 8:45 am

    and I wore my IRELAND shirt to da game too. 🙁

  267. TOM December 26, 2008 8:46 am

    Good morning good people!

    Hope everyone had a good and blessed Christmas!

    Where was the t-gate? Nice pictures Liz!

  268. koakane iphone December 26, 2008 8:52 am

    Good morning

  269. koakane iphone December 26, 2008 8:55 am

    wishing everyone a belated merry Christmas to all.

  270. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 8:55 am

    the real problem is we got a late start last year. we had to get rid of HF. check. we had to choose a head coach. check. he had to recruit players AND coaches. check he had to hold his head high, give us hope. check.

    and now the real problem sets in. Hawaii, we have a problem!

    “Come together, all Hawaii, now and forever
    let the banners flly


    we can gix this. we CAN!

  271. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 8:56 am

    Why would you wear an “Ireland” shirt to the game BigHilo? Maybe that’s why we provoked the “Ire” of Notre Dame. See Braddah! Was all your fault! 😆

  272. Da Punchbowl Kid December 26, 2008 9:00 am

    Hilo, mebbe you should print up official T-shirts for the team during the off season. Print a big bold message on the shirt; “Nui ka Hana”. That means “Big is the Work”, as in the Warriors and their staff have lots o’ work to do in the off season.

  273. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 9:03 am

    tHREE of the things on my list of things to fix for next year:

    these are coaches’ rules. rule da coaches, coach! 😀

  274. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc December 26, 2008 9:04 am

    Ye Gods & Little Fishes – the greenwaste guys woke us up at 6:15 am – are they crazy? By the time we got through peeling the cats off the ceiling, making coffee and calming down Saturn The Dog, the sun was up and my hands had stopped shaking.

    Garret: Mahalo for the information re the non-conference games. The away games in 2009 will also include LaTech and Idaho while the home games will be Utah State & New Mexico State.

    Re your comment yesterday about the Las Vegas Cattle Call. Why not plan to get a private room at one of the kazillion hotels or restaurants there so that people can be in one private area. With nearly 10 months’ notice in a really shaky economy, I bet some good deals could be made with respect to both facilities and costs.

    I know that there were some bad feelings after the last Cattle Call held at the Makino’s here sometime last summer because the manager wanted to have the group vacate the tables. I didn’t observe it but only heard references to it here on the blog.

    The trouble with having to sit in a public location with people spread out over a large area with other guests is that it’s very difficult to do any circulating to meet`n`greet without disturbing other folks.

    Anyhow, we won’t be going so there’s no sense in trying to shape the event. I was just responding to SteveM’s comment about the size of the event and how much fun there will be.

    BACK TO SPORTS: Jim Donovan is really committed to customer service in its broadest definition. Perhaps it is time for rational, reasoned and signed letters to be sent to him expressing both concerns as well as compliments about the various sports programs as well as the facilities. Perhaps he might be willing to set up an evening get-together to talk about these issues.

    I definitely share BHF2’s concern about Jim Bolla. I realize that many of you do not have much interest in NCAA sports outside of football, but two of the three women’s power sports – volleyball and softball – perch on the edge of being great. Basketball could be, but until the coaching staff is changed, that is not going to happen. In addition to his failings as a coach, Bolla lacks the innate skills to work with young adults.

    Anyhow, got a kazillion items on my List Of Things To Do so I am out of here for awhile.

  275. koakane iphone December 26, 2008 9:05 am

    had to take two days to let the lost and bitter
    taste settle. since it was the day to celebrate being joyous didn’t was to read or hear anything from da game.

    I don’t know if I have moved on yet.

  276. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 9:08 am

    its not like the fire all pew.

    we getting some good players coming, and we got some great players already. but dare has to be a record of who is doing what. and sprinting from sideline, groups of o and d, and watching who is in front at the halfway point is a good indicator of speed.

    and asking the players what they think would help the team, that would be a big plus. i would love to be a fly on that wall.

  277. addahknowjoe December 26, 2008 9:10 am


    Two days?! You still at the Cabana?

    Braddah, go home already! Nuff.

    All pau.

  278. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 9:11 am

    okay den, gotta work! have a nice day all.

  279. brew808 December 26, 2008 9:25 am

    Eh… it’s never pau! Some of us will always be waiting for the “POW!”. Oh…. Ralph will probably label us as “Niner Faithful”…. 🙄 😯 😀

  280. brew808 December 26, 2008 9:29 am

    …actually…. This should be considered a new beginning! Spring comes early to Manoa! 😀 😯 😆

    ~~•~~~~•~~~~•~ ★ ★ ★ Go WARRIORS!!! ★ ★ ★ ~•~~~~•~~~~•~~


  281. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 9:36 am

    every year going get new begiinings for some
    every year going get new players

    always going match up what those four are doing with what those three are doing and what those four are doing

    and always going match up what those 5 are doing with what those 2 are doing with what those 4 are doing

    every year dat no change.

    da mind coach! you gotta start with the mind!!!! and for me that means no let coach Brian look the other way. same for Rolo. make em look everrybody in the eye. including us. especially us! day no scared us, day no scared anybody.

    we want them tall to succeed coach. i don’t believe anyone has reached the pinnacle of the peter principle yet, unless you say so. but you gotta at least move em around in da seats of your boat.

    Happy New Year Coach

  282. bighilofan2 December 26, 2008 9:41 am

    Dear Jim Donovan,

    the Irish were losing big time for along time, and Michigan was coming. and Lou Holtz stepped up. and gave an Irish speech.

    let me hear your irish speach, Jimmy D. Start it off with “dear Mr. Bolla.”
    😆 You’ve had a year to look things over. remember the Alamo. remember the SSC last monday nite. 75. 75 . 75. the place wuz empty.

  283. Brian December 26, 2008 9:52 am

    The O line was the most glaring problem this season. No discipline along the line at all. Why was one player reinserted in the game after getting his 2nd then 3rd personal foul/unsportsman like conduct penalty? There was also a moment when an ND player ended up in the UH bench area, and two UH players jumped off the bench and ran towards him to say something to him. Now I’m a UH fan but that was bush league, classless if you asked me.

  284. (Jesse) James December 26, 2008 10:01 am

    Brian…I agree with some of your comments…UH needs to stop the personal foul business. I don’t know what is going on with some of those guys but they need to just shake it off, no matter what may be said or what may be instigated….realize that it is just baiting and if you react, you will get caught….so don’t do it, you only hurt the team….

    Notre Dame also had some instances of not showing respect. I understand that it was a “monkey off their back” type win and they were excited…but when UH (or any team for that matter) is playing their alma mater…you don’t run around the field with your school’s flag and cheer…I mean, ND is not the first school to do this at Aloha Stadium….but just thought I’d mention it….and I am an ND fan on any other game unless they play Hawaii….

    Just some thoughts….

  285. koakane iphone December 26, 2008 10:04 am

    Ajoe since everyone abandon me I had to finish the beeru myself and what better place to do it. Neva figure it would take me that long. Bwhaaaaaaaaa

  286. Kekoa December 26, 2008 10:42 am

    Hang on pahtna! I’m on my way down to the Cabana now to get you home. Jez remembah, da season all pau. We gotta let go! Move on…

  287. Brian December 26, 2008 11:32 am

    One other point that might make a difference for the future. Ron Lee needs to be down on the sidelines to guide the offense face to face. Seems like there’s miscommunication between the press box and the coaches on the sidelines. Wouldn’t it be better to utilize Coach Lee’s experience with the players on the sideline?

  288. Kekoa December 26, 2008 11:47 am

    Brian ~ I goin’ tell you what Coach Mack sez about all us wannabee coaches. “When you get your own team, then you can do what you want!”

    He’s reading all these comments and evaluating them I’m sure, but mark my words. It’s food for thought, and I’m sure he knows we all have the best intentions.

  289. Kimo December 27, 2008 10:18 am

    Any one who says that game was a suitable end to the season can’t be a true fan. In fact, it may have been one of the most embarrassing losses in UH football history.

    First of all, let’s remember that this isn’t your uncle’s Notre Dame. This was not Jerome Bettis and Tony Rice out there. I’d like to think that by now, most of football-educated America knows that Notre Dame doesn’t have the top notch athletes they once did.

    The fact that UH could go out there and give that half-hearted performance against a MEDIOCRE AT BEST team with no momentum and no confidence was absolutely embarassing. Don’t get me wrong. I’m not placing all the blame on individual players’ efforts (Although let’s face it, the entire offensive line could be blamed for a lot fo this).

    The amount of mental prep in the time between the end of the regular season and the bowl game is huge. A lot of big time coaches make or break their careers in this time. Think about how many times you’ve heard, ” Well, if Pete Carroll has a month to prepare, he can beat any body.”

    Or, “Urban Meyer is one of best big game coaches in his time.”

    I firmly believe that the Hawaii Bowl was played between equally talented teams, with UH just having a less experienced coaching staff. I hope this was part of a learning curve for them, but if this turns in to a trend, I’d start calling for heads to roll.

  290. train December 31, 2008 10:35 pm

    wow! NCAA record for most sacks. I find that not too surprising. Good news is that there is a quarterback on the roster who has very quick feet and his high school stats show very few sacks in in his senior and junior season season. Under 10, i think and the quarter back before him averaged 6 sacks a game and they had the same line. next year looks hopeful if the right decisions are made. He’s been here 2 years so he knows the offense. I’m reserving my # 10 jersey now. GO WARRIORS

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