McMackin retires as UH head coach

Head coach Greg McMackin has retired as UH head coach.

McMackin has a year remaining on a five-year contract that pays $1.1 million annually. He will receive $600,000 as a separation fee, forfeiting $500,000 that he would be owed.

A national search will begin, according to UH. Rich Miano, the associate head coach, has been named interim head coach.


  1. al December 5, 2011 12:02 pm


  2. al December 5, 2011 12:03 pm

    i guess you heard right afterall.

  3. primo123 December 5, 2011 12:04 pm


  4. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:04 pm

    Does he meet with them to say he is staying? Or does he meet with them to say he no longer will be retained as the Head coach? Hmmmmm???? We shall see.

  5. primo123 December 5, 2011 12:05 pm

    he’s out……..

  6. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:06 pm

    Haha I guess he did huh. He misinterpreted his misinterpretation.

  7. primo123 December 5, 2011 12:06 pm

    why meet with the coaches first………….to tell them he’s out………….then meet with players ….

    otherwise, if he was still in…he’d meet with all of them at the same time to tell them he’s renewed.

  8. Woozuuu December 5, 2011 12:06 pm

    Mac= done cakes

  9. primo123 December 5, 2011 12:08 pm

    God Bless Coach Mack…..he will land on his feet somewhere. He’s one of the good guys.

  10. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 12:10 pm


    Maybe someone else or a few others is/are leaving?

  11. kev-1 December 5, 2011 12:10 pm

    If meetings about the offseason program were not held, it seems like he will be out. He’ll coach somewhere. He is a good DC. IF of course that is what happens. Speculation still.

  12. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 12:10 pm

    or all…

  13. rich2176 December 5, 2011 12:12 pm

    Al – I got your point on the last post in that June took the program from the outhouse to the penthouse. All I was doing was comparing the job both coaches have done the past 4 years taking over a new team.

  14. al December 5, 2011 12:12 pm

    7…that seems to be the subliminal message here that coupled with allowing only 15 minutes for his staff.

    needs to be done, but, still a somber moment for all.

  15. al December 5, 2011 12:13 pm

    i would imagine one or two staffers will be kept on to maintain some kind of continuity as well as to retain the few commits that we have.

  16. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2011 12:14 pm

    Hope that all parties involved are in agreement.

  17. al December 5, 2011 12:15 pm

    rich2176…got ya on that one.

    i was looking forward to sitting next to you at the sjsu game.

    well, regardless, i hope you make it to a game next year.

  18. LizKauai December 5, 2011 12:15 pm

    vili is posting on fb that it’s Miano…



    God Bless and


  19. al December 5, 2011 12:16 pm

    interim coach perhaps…

  20. kev-1 December 5, 2011 12:17 pm

    Miano? Oh HELL NO!!!

    I would rather keep Mack. That would be horrible.

  21. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:19 pm

    Do you think Vili is serious??? Or just being stupid? That would be a very bad decision in my opinion.

  22. Souljah December 5, 2011 12:20 pm

    seems like many people are saying that Mcmackin sucks as a head coach but a good DC….so since we have to pay him anyway make him our DC and find a new head coach. He’ll just be the highest paid assistant in the MWC.

  23. Wes'side Warrior December 5, 2011 12:21 pm

    Whatever the decision, I hope the fans will still be supportive. Fan base is quite polarized at the moment. Need to come out with a solid decision. If Coach Mack is kept, what does he need to do to change directions? If released, what is the UHAD’s planned timeline? Need substantive info to rally behind, not vague statements.

  24. rich2176 December 5, 2011 12:21 pm

    Well, if Mack is gone, how much does this cost the tax payers to buy him out and hire a new coach? Hawaii has a pretty good business college. One of the students should write a quick extra credit paper on how this negatively affects the fiscal bottom line for the entire UH system and the trickle down effect on the tax payers.

  25. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 12:22 pm

    Maybe tuioti as interim coach.

  26. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:22 pm

    Yup itll also show that we are paying our assistants handsomely as well too

  27. Ed December 5, 2011 12:24 pm

    #22 good point, I agree unless his contarct stipulates otherwise.

  28. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:25 pm

    Or coordinators for that matter

  29. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 12:25 pm

    ESPN radio reporting a decision has been made and a announcement will be made this afternoon.

  30. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2011 12:27 pm

    Brian Smith is on the mainland recruiting.

    Nick Rolovich is scheduled to go to the mainland tonight.

  31. al December 5, 2011 12:27 pm

    no not tuioti…but, i’d keep him if i were the next guy in.

    it’ll probably be miano as the interim hc until the new hire is in place. hopefully fast tracked in.

  32. al December 5, 2011 12:28 pm

    22…that won’t happen.

  33. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:29 pm


    So are you saying Mcmackin will be retained being that those coaches are still out recruiting?

  34. al December 5, 2011 12:29 pm

    good to see smith and rolo still pounding the pavement, it behooves them and the program that they do.

    tough sell, but necessary.

  35. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 12:31 pm

    Mack’s strengths may ultimately be his downfall…

    APR is high so UH can take risks

    Defense is still in good shape and can be patched with a few JC recruits

    QBs we got a ton and there is enough difference in talent to run just about any offense

    RBs .. we got at least two good ones and a few promising ones

    Receivers, getting better, lots of promise… and some good ones in the wings…

    O-line ecruits … the redshirts and returners look very promising…

    The cupboards are pretty well stocked and the program is in good standing academically, these are players that might attract a number of coaches.

  36. LizKauai December 5, 2011 12:31 pm

    I hope we let Coach Mack finish out his contract and play the wonderful Warriors he has recruited.

    Next year’s team could really be something special.

    This year’s team was very special.

    They are all OUR WARRIORS!

  37. Couch potato December 5, 2011 12:33 pm

    differences between jj’s initial season and macks?

    jj brought in a new offense. mack inherited the same offense. kinda no brainer for mack. he didn’t improve the product.

    here is my guess for the meetings. mack will announce he is stepping down as hc and take over special teams. tomey will be hc. 😆

  38. Souljah December 5, 2011 12:36 pm

    losing potential recruits

    Mike pennel to Arkansas

  39. Wassup December 5, 2011 12:39 pm

    #37 Hope not…

  40. Wes'side Warrior December 5, 2011 12:39 pm

    Just wondering… trick plays were practiced (just in case), but never implemented. Too conservative. Were we just afraid of calling those plays and failing? We were about as vanilla as ice cream, with near zero creativity this year. One exception was the fake dive TD a couple of weeks ago.

    Then, we practice hurry up, but don’t run hurry up when necessary. We let other teams dictate tempo. We gotta mix it up better.

  41. al December 5, 2011 12:39 pm

    lizk…are we reading the same material?

  42. Kevin December 5, 2011 12:42 pm

    Sounds like they’ve decided on an interim within the staff for 2012.

    I imagine they will use next calendar year to seek a permanent HC amd as usual the interim may apply as well along with any other current staff if they wish.

    Mack will get $1.1 million no matter what anyway right?

    UH can use the extended search time to fish for funds for the new HC as well.

  43. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 12:43 pm

    Lizk….are we in the same world???

  44. Kevin December 5, 2011 12:44 pm

    Will an interim HC amongst the current staff take ANY edge off losing recruits?


    Better than seeking a new individual now?

  45. Graham December 5, 2011 12:44 pm

    I respect what Coach Mac stands for and I am sorry to see him leave but in my opinion it is the only move. Extending him isnt the answer and you can’t have a head coach out there with a year left on his contract. I wish him luck in his future endevaors. Hope they keep Tutoli on staff

  46. A-House December 5, 2011 12:45 pm

    maybe, just maybe the “recruits” who visited but who are committing to other schools NEVER had any intention of signing with UH come NOLI – just taking a free ride to Hawaii – many have done it before and many will do the same in the future – the “coaching staff” nedds to weed out those who will not sign with UH – let’s not make this a big deal – they will go where ever they feel most comfortable.

    jus my opinion.

  47. Kekoa December 5, 2011 12:46 pm


    December 5th, 2011 at 9:29 am

    @Kekoa, no worries had a little turkey and salad. But made a big plate of that Ono bread pudding. I don’t know how we would do this, but I felt bad for the boys with no ohana there last night. Got to figure out how to get a parent there for all the boys. Not like the old days when the players had host parents on the island. Heck some of the former players from those days are still so close to their host parents.

    Poly Mom ~ One word solution to including the Ohana. *Video* already in use in the room…so just stream it over the net to the folks at home. The boys can continue to give thanks at the podium…to the folks who really matter.

    Standing next to Robert Kekaula…I was like a little tiny person. He always cracks me up with his great sense of humor. Team meeting this morning for the boys at eight. But now they really got to hit the books.

    Poly Mom ~ That was the buzz heard on the escalator. RK emphasized the team meeting a 2nd time.

    Have a safe and pleasant trip home to LaLa Land. The fire buzz will be driving us all crazy for the next few weeks I’m afraid.

  48. Kevin December 5, 2011 12:46 pm

    Interim HC usually goes to next in command i.e. associate head coach.

  49. A.M. December 5, 2011 12:48 pm

    If Coach is not HC anymore, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the current staff (like Aranda & Shaw) packing for greener pastures. (Maybe that’s why Aranda was on the phone at the banquet?)

  50. Kevin December 5, 2011 12:48 pm

    Removal of an unfavorable individual, in the eyes and POCKETBOOKS of paying customers (see attendance figures this season), is the wisest move.

  51. Buffoman December 5, 2011 12:48 pm

    If they are going interim, it would be better to have Tomey. He has the HC mentality and knows how to organize. If interim means, go get the HC in waiting for the following year, get that OC from Oregon letting him know that year one will be your settling in and year two will be yours.

    I don’t think you could do that scenario of an interim with Miano as the lead. Tomey does not want to be “Joe Pa” and coach until he is 85. He wants to help and enjoy the work. Miano may want to rise to HC one day and I do not believe it should be with the UH. I don’t see that as being a good choice.

  52. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2011 12:48 pm

    I got to meet Poly Mom last night.

    And, yes, I confirm that she does exist.

    And she’s a wonderful woman.

    Always great to put a face to a name.

  53. Dan-O December 5, 2011 12:51 pm

    I’m hoping JD and the brain trust already had a contingency plan in place. I dont see the logic in hiring an “interim” coach. That will kill recruiting just as much as not having a coach. Who is going to commit to a school that doesnt even know who their head coach will be?

    But a meeting with coaches first, then players can’t be good for Mack. I’m sure he will make an announcement. BUT is UH making one????

  54. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 12:54 pm

    Maybe Tomey as interim would be OK. When the new coach comes in, I wouldn’t mind seeing Tomey in the recruiting coordinator position. I do hope Tuioti will remain with UH in some coaching position as well.

  55. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 12:54 pm

    For a maximum $650K… if UH cannot find someone with better promise than Coach Mack.. what then? Are we downgrading?

  56. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 12:56 pm

    KITV reporting that a “Decision has been made…”

  57. A-House December 5, 2011 12:57 pm

    what’s to lose if you allow Coach Mack to burn his final year or use an “interim” HC for 2012?

    recruiting? if a current coach is selected for 2013, will that change the minds of recurits? Will this allow players, the young ones, to transfer now or in 2012 without having to sit out a year? does this mean that all 2012 committed recruits are now free to go where ever?

    if Coach Mack is allowed to finish his 5th year and has an excellent record at mid-year, UH will change their mind and grant an extension?

    Do I think Coach mack is a very good HC? No. Does he have to work on becoming a better HC? Absolutely! so does every HC in college football!!!! perhaps at age 67 or 68, it’s time to call it quits and let some one else take all the flack.

    it would be a sad day for UH if they select a new HC that was fired – go find a young, energetic coach who has exhibited leadership, knows the game, offensve and defense, and willing to build a program.

  58. al December 5, 2011 12:58 pm

    presser at 3:30 pm

  59. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 12:59 pm

    So, no one remembers Oregon State’s DC Mark Banker when he was an assistant here at UH?

  60. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:00 pm

    Would we want Tomey as a head coach?

    Keep Mack as a d-coordinator with pay cut (agreed upon)

    Keep Rolo at offense

    let Mouse go

    Put Aranda as special teams

    jus think out loud….slap me if i’m nuts….

  61. A-House December 5, 2011 1:01 pm

    I for one may have suport concerns for UH football if Tomey is named interim HC.

    after all, he did not support UH in 2007 – for whatever reason, he never voted UH to be in the top 25 teams.

    many will disagree, but that is your right to do so. thus, allow me to have mine!!

  62. Really? December 5, 2011 1:02 pm

    Someday the fans on this island will realize that when the head coach goes in this sport, so does the rest of the staff. This is the only program in the country (due to its isolation and politics) in which every time a head coach is fired the assistants start lobbying immediately for the right to stay on with the next coach. It doesn’t work that way. You want a great young head coach? He’s gonna demand he picks his own staff. For those of you who don’t understand college football that’s his right and overall why you hire him, for that complete staff he brings. You don’t hire him and then say, Oh by the way, here’s your DB coach, here’s your D-Line coach, here’s your O-coordinator, EVER. Especially when their overall body or work in both games and recruiting in the worst conference in college football is barely above 500, half of them have second jobs and most of them won’t recruit in any way shape or form resembling D-1 coaches. They ride a gravy train here and have been fooling the fans for years. As for “needing” guys who “know” Hawaii to be successful here that is nonsense that goes back to plantation owners and missionaries. Hawaii has never kept blue chip recruits home EVER and no one on this current staff has established himself as the guy who can change that. Lastly this island is the richest in the country in high school lineman, tight ends, fullbacks and H backs. We need to wear our big boy and girl underwear and admit the run and shoot was run well by June (who had his junk seasons too, and somehow people seem to forget that),. go to Jucos and mainland high schools and get big tail backs and big fast receivers and play football with mainland mentality. That is we are gonna smash the ball into your mouth all night, play action for big plays, use our Poly stud prototype tight ends all day on ya and outhit you. On defense we go to the mainland for our DBs and maybe speed rush guys or outside backers but stay home up the middle on the d-line and backers and probably safeties. Give them a chance to stay off the field more than 2 minutes at a time, and turn them lose. It’s what we have recruiting wise, and if we had the insight to do this, you’d see a bunch more kids staying home and playing for the green and black. Throw the run and shoot into the garbage, and let’s play, sell and recruit Hawaii football. June Jones is the run and shoot, it wasn’t our identity before it isn’t now and never should be again. If I were a 6’5 325 pound stud from these islands, the last thing I’d wanna do is set up as a passive aggressive pass blocker 66 times a night playing on my heels all game when I could be pawing turf like a brama bull getting ready to go to war every play and driving enemy defenders into the turf like lawndarts. We can still throw the ball with great success out of a big physical offense, and if you don’t believe me watch Wisconsin some day. We have the same kind of kids here, they just eat poi instead of blocks of cheese all day. Oh, and our big boys can dance and surf, something Badgers woudn’t dream of! LOL Think about it.

  63. d1shima December 5, 2011 1:04 pm

    I am mystified by all the suggestions that a guy who has a done deal contract to receive $1.1M in the coming year, whether he spends that year here or in the desert, is gonna be inclined to “renegotiate” anything.

  64. Dan-O December 5, 2011 1:05 pm

    Agreed A-House….the interim would have to be someone that can keep the “ship afloat”, much like Mack was able to, when JJ left.

    I don’t see all the players being close to Tomey, as he just came on board this year.

    Hate to say it….but looks like Miano, if they go the interim route.

  65. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:09 pm

    i dont think UH can compete with the mainland schools for our big studs that wanna play at more presitgious schools with history and limelight.

    only way we can compete is if we imploy a gimmick type offense. ie. run option, ie. navy, airforce, army. like those teams, we simply cannot get the type of studs to run anything else.

    maybe the pistol…………

  66. Old Diver December 5, 2011 1:10 pm


    “This is the only program in the country (due to its isolation and politics) in which every time a head coach is fired the assistants start lobbying immediately for the right to stay on with the next coach.”

    Nope this happens is just about every case.

  67. d1shima December 5, 2011 1:10 pm


    Come on. Some people see the glass half full, others see a potential venue for a great pool party! 😉

  68. Old Diver December 5, 2011 1:11 pm

    Only one thing is certain. I will be in the stands next year to cheer on the Warriors.

  69. Bulla December 5, 2011 1:12 pm


  70. huh? December 5, 2011 1:12 pm

    Don’t they teach paragraphing in school anymore?

    Makes for tough reading.

  71. d1shima December 5, 2011 1:13 pm


    Nevah know you was KS alum.



  72. Really? December 5, 2011 1:14 pm

    61 I meant “local football mentality, not mainland mentality) but take at look at your BCS teams, smash mouth run games, which open up the pass. It’s called football. June went 7-6 this the year with his fabled run and shoot and his recruits at SMU and if it weren’t for the bag of recruits Jucos and D-1 retreads Reinebold and a GA brought in, he wouldn’t have ever sniffed a Sugar Bowl. Mouse Davis never won a major championship with it and neither has any other coach. Let’s quit talking about the run and shoot like it’s what we are.

  73. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:15 pm

    My friends was joking they tomey would take over. God I hope not.

  74. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:16 pm

    ahhhhhhh….808BOWLER….now we know who to BLAME!!!….haha..kiddin

  75. Really? December 5, 2011 1:17 pm

    No it don’t Old Diver, take any coach fired this week and count up how many assistants stay on staff for the next guy. It only happens if they worked together sometime back in the past on staffs. We have a staff that should be Unionized.

  76. Couch potato December 5, 2011 1:17 pm

    jd: what and who do i look for in a hc? i know, i’ll go read st’s blog for some awesome info. 😆

  77. al December 5, 2011 1:19 pm

    an interim hc will be able to keep things afloat as well as possible UNTIL the new coach is selected. this is not something permanent or a prolonged assignment.

    my guess is that it will be miano for interim. he could apply for the “job”.

    running the program is more than x’s and o’s. somebody needs to adminster the office.

    i am confident that we will have a new coach before the end of the year.

  78. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 1:22 pm

    If the post about Chow is true, I guess he will always be a brides maid and never the bride. Surprising that he hasn’t been a HC at least once at the Div-1 level.

  79. al December 5, 2011 1:22 pm

    i am more curious as to who conducts the press conference.

    that will determine who else stays and who else leaves. it could be more than the hc and his asst’s.

  80. d1shima December 5, 2011 1:22 pm


    Remember to take your meds!

  81. al December 5, 2011 1:23 pm

    hopefully, this time we aren’t in a panic attack mode to hire a coach.

  82. wait a minute December 5, 2011 1:23 pm


    I remember Mark Banker. I just don’t care.

  83. Committed Road Warrior December 5, 2011 1:24 pm


    The staff is unionized…they’re all HGEA members, IIRC – even the HC.

  84. Old Diver December 5, 2011 1:24 pm


    Read your quote again.

    “This is the only program in the country (due to its isolation and politics) in which every time a head coach is fired the assistants start lobbying immediately for the right to stay on with the next coach.”

  85. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 1:26 pm

    So are we done with the RnS? Do we move on to something else?

  86. CHEE! December 5, 2011 1:26 pm

    #62 In 2009 Wisconsin’s offense pounded UH 51-10. RB John Clay ran for 172 and 3 touchdowns. Wisconsin scored 7 rushing TD’s .

  87. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:27 pm

    Wonder wat Jeff Reinbold doing? Is he still at smu? Ex Nfl Europe coach. jus wondering.

  88. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:28 pm

    Lol primo.

  89. Darren December 5, 2011 1:29 pm

    If we are able to recruit and sign offensive lineman like Wisconsin, then yes, we should no longer utilize the R&S.

  90. seriously? December 5, 2011 1:30 pm

    um… miano as HC? there’s a reason why some coaches are 50 yr assistants… look at mack. let’s repeat the same mistake — typical UH decision making

  91. Buffoman December 5, 2011 1:32 pm

    #75 If by “Unionized” you’re inferring they could not be terminated when the HC is terminated, I would then say, you’d have an almost impossible task of getting a new HC to come knowing that he cannot infuse his philosophy with his team of assistants, he picked and was stuck with his predecessors or his predecessors staff.

    I can tell you that a Ken N. from Navy would not come if he was saddled with a R&S staff and his philosophy was more triple option.

  92. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 1:32 pm


    That’s nice. *clap*

  93. Old Diver December 5, 2011 1:33 pm




    I should have said Rough Riders. In three years there we had 1 win and 1 tie. Tough going when you have a steady diet of Onosai Tanuvasa’s and Arnold Morgado’s.

  94. LizKauai December 5, 2011 1:35 pm

    Hey, armchair coaches – any of you happen to sit in L Yellow last Saturday?

  95. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:37 pm

    what happened in Yellow L?

  96. 99club December 5, 2011 1:38 pm

    Yellow makes me sad.

  97. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:44 pm


  98. (Jesse) James December 5, 2011 1:48 pm

    Yellow bird…up high in banana tree….LOL

  99. Garret December 5, 2011 1:49 pm

    Very interesting…but is UH really going to have Miano be an interim coach for a year or just until a permanent replacement is hired? How will the team recruit if recruits don’t know who the head coach will be in a year and don’t know whether or not they will fit whatever system UH will use then?

  100. Curt December 5, 2011 1:49 pm

    I was in the yellow section, LizKauai.

  101. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:50 pm

    I know its rude to ask but wats the age variance in here? Me I’m 33.

  102. Pomai December 5, 2011 1:51 pm

    Having Tomey as the HC would be a bigger mistake than keeping Mack.

  103. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:52 pm

    if miano is the interim….then he’ll probably keep the system the same.

    that 5star cb might still come if miano is around. i wonder how much that played into it.

    is the problem coach mack? the offense? the defense? the special teams? a. b. or all of the above?

    keep all…just change the coach and see how it goes.

    why miano? why not tomey?

    questions questions…..soon to have answers by 330pm or so.

  104. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 1:52 pm

    Interim bruddah, Interim.

  105. Derek December 5, 2011 1:52 pm

    Personally, I think Rich Miano is a very good coach and a good recruiter. If I am mistaken I think Miano was the one who had the first contact with Colt Brennan to try to consider coming to Hawaii and recommended him to June Jones. Miano also has worked tirelessly with the walk on program, the UH NFL Pro Day, and the speed and quickness program. He is always accessible and is straight with people. He has developed some excellent defensive backs, including Mana Silva, Myron Newberry, Ryan Mouton, Nate Jackson, and a host of others. If anything, he’s the epitome of a true Warrior, a walk-on from Kaiser, to scholarship player, 1st team All-WAC safety, and played in the NFL for 11 years. He has his blood, sweat, and tears in the Hawaii program. When he could have gone to work with June Jones at SMU he want to stay here because Hawaii is his home. That’s loyalty to the MAX in my book.

    Is he Head Coach material? You never know until someone gets the job. Is he qualified, yes. Does he have a stake? Yes. Does he have sweat equity? A lot. The question we need to know is his coaching philosophy, his organizational and leadership skills, and how effective he will be in selecting and coaching his assistants. What is his offensive and defensive philosophy and special teams also. He not young and he’s not old, maybe just right!!!!!! And I think we can get it for a reasonable salary, say around $500 to $600 thousand. The “Management” team can decide to make the next coach “interim” to keep the continuity going and the recruiting process. Yes, I think Mack is done. You don’t talk to the staff then to the players to say he’s coming back. If he’s coming back, Donavan would just make an announcement that he’s coming back. Simple. No problem. He was going to get only 1 more year anyway. He wasn’t going to get an extension. It doesn’t make sense for that too because it is still uncertainty the following year and recruits are on the fence. Whatever it is, gotta hurry up because recruiting prospects are taking visits and making their decisions. Mike Pennel was never going to come here anyway in my opinion. Whoever is the new coach some assistants should be retained and some will leave. That’s what I think. IMO, Tony Tuioti is someone who has done a great job.

  106. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:53 pm

    i was 12 once

  107. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:53 pm

    Was in orange on the 50 yard line. Man BYU talked alot of crap.

  108. Bwhaha December 5, 2011 1:53 pm

    LizK – Mack will join you in L Yellow next season

  109. Pomai December 5, 2011 1:54 pm

    Bowler I just turned 22, Hhhhhmmmmmm(for the third time)

  110. manoa December 5, 2011 1:54 pm

    #72 Really

    JJ went to a balanced offense and used a tight end, even double tight ends on some plays.

    He has had two 1,000 yard runners (one is in the NFL), although one got hurt. And he is recruiting running backs as much as QB’s.

    In SMU’s last game they ran more running plays than pass plays and won, but they are not scoring and passing like they were (they probably should).

    Take a look at You Tube and watch their runner Zach Lane in SMU’s win over TCU (the team that beat Boise).

    Nevertheless, maybe JJ had to go to the run, but he really needs to get back to more pass to get more success.

  111. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:55 pm

    make Miano the interim. no problem. he earned it.

  112. Couch potato December 5, 2011 1:55 pm

    i moved to the blue section and i felt sad over there.

    Warriors scored a touchdown late in the 2nd qtr. band already left their seats to prepare for halftime, therefore, no fight song was played.

    one final thing on vili. either get rid of him or someone educate him on the significance of the fight song. then have him, the band, the cheerleaders, the scoreboard operators, and the fans get in sync and coordinate a stadium-wide cheer after a Warrior score. not that difficult to know when to spell out W-A-R-R-I-O-R-S…GOOOOOO WARRIORS.

    no make sense, and this has been said many times by many, to have the fight song playing and vili on da odda side making the fans cheer.

    it’s the final countdown…tick, tock, tick, tock.

  113. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 1:55 pm

    Yup answers coming soon.

  114. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 1:56 pm

    In the absence of any HC/interim, can the AD take over all responsibilities and recruit, offer scholarships etc etc? Just curious.

  115. DownTownHNL December 5, 2011 1:57 pm

    McMackin has tentatively accepted the DC position at Washington State under Mike Leach.

  116. Kevin December 5, 2011 1:57 pm


  117. rich2176 December 5, 2011 1:59 pm

    Just saw this little tidbit on wikipedia:

    Both of Hawaii’s WAC championships during former coach June Jones’ tenure at Hawaii came during both of McMackin’s two years as defensive coordinator for Hawaii.[5] That would be 1999 & 2007.

    Here’s a little chart I put together showing year, record, points scored & allowed per game.

    Points Per Game – Scored/Allowed


    1999 9-4 29.0  27.7 

    2000 3-9 24.5  33.5 

    2001 9-3 40.2  26.5 

    2002 10-4 35.9  27.8 

    2003 9-5 34.7  30.5 

    2004 8-5 35.9  38.4 

    2005 5-7 30.7  35.7 

    2006 11-3 46.9  24.1 

    2007 12-1 43.4  25.5 

    2008 7-7 24.6  28.9 

    2009 6-7 22.8  29.5 

    2010 10-4 39.6  25.5 

    2011 6-7 31.5 29.1

    It’s interesting that the oppents were outscored this year, yet UH had a losing record.

  118. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 1:59 pm

    I read a tweet that Jon Gruden from Pearl City is interested in the UH job.

  119. primo123 December 5, 2011 1:59 pm

    tick tock….tick tock…tick tock……

  120. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 2:00 pm


    That wouldn’t be surprising. Do you have a link?

  121. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 2:00 pm


    28 here.

  122. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:00 pm

    Derek, you write like how kate from “kate plus eight” talks. she asks a question then answers it herself. just an observation. 😆

  123. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 2:01 pm

    Kate from 8 is a mean person.

  124. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:02 pm

    derek is kate?

  125. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:02 pm

    kate from 8 is a bitch…..oops did i jus type that?

  126. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:02 pm


  127. d1shima December 5, 2011 2:04 pm


    Just informed that I have a meeting at 3pm!

    ….eh, maybe I going be da nex Coach! 😆

  128. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 2:04 pm



  129. Garret December 5, 2011 2:04 pm


    You did make some good points in your post in the last blog–I just read your post and was about to respond when I realized there was a new blog up already! Some things to consider:

    1. UH’s fans voted by not attending the games, with the turnstile count being really bad this season. That would indicate a huge loss of revenue next year in ticket sales.

    SMU has had their attendance increase every year. They are still far below most other schools, but the bean counters understand how a situation where ticket revenue increases each year is quite different than one where the revenue is decreasing. The biggest demand for SMU tickets is in their luxury boxes, which bring in more money than many sections of the regular seats.

    2. UH’s SOS was rated as the weakest D-IA schedule on some impartial sites. If we go by Sagarin, UH had the #112 hardest schedule while SMU had #75. Comparing schedules needs to also account for SOS.

    3. The recruiting classes between the 2 schools have been quite different over the past 2 years. A factor this season was probably Mack’s contract, but that doesn’t explain last season. UH needs to do something to salvage this recruiting season–as ST mentioned earlier, UH needed to make a decision to extend Mack or go another direction.

    Just letting Mack coach out the final year would have killed the recruiting class and made it very difficult for Mack or any other coach to overcome that in future years. However, I don’t see how an interim coach will solve the recruiting for this year unless UH hires the permanent coach before February.

  130. rich2176 December 5, 2011 2:05 pm

    er….I know I spelled out “opponents”…

  131. d1shima December 5, 2011 2:05 pm

    Me, I’m 33, too. But for be able to breathe I bettah take 42.

  132. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:06 pm

    #127 SHIMA….leave your number and we’ll text you the report as it happens…

  133. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:06 pm

    rich2176, thanks to uc-davis.

  134. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:07 pm

    Wonder if that post is real. Don’t think so.

  135. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:07 pm

    Does anyone know and can post Jim Donovan’s Coaches Guidelines?

    1. Graduation Rate




    5. Wins

  136. Garret December 5, 2011 2:08 pm

    In the absence of any HC/interim, can the AD take over all responsibilities and recruit, offer scholarships etc etc? Just curious.

    Only coaches can recruit. An AD offering a scholarship would be violating NCAA rules.

  137. Derek December 5, 2011 2:09 pm

    If Norm Chow wants to be a Head Coach maybe this is the time. But, he would have to swallow his pride and take a big pay cut. I don’t think so. The guy has a big ego.

  138. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 2:09 pm

    I guess the only way around that would be for the AD to appoint himself the interim.

  139. d1shima December 5, 2011 2:10 pm


  140. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:12 pm


  141. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:12 pm


  142. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:12 pm

    Sheesh long line at yb…….don’t they know its the holidays and companies got to get there products Out.

    Herd was a somber mood at the team meeting this morning.

  143. al December 5, 2011 2:13 pm

    reiteration of sorts…

    miano named interim coach as he is second in command already.

    he will run the ship until the new guy is on board, this should be done in minimal time within the current hiring processes at uh/state.

    hopefully, the new guy is on board before the new year. my guess is that it will.

    again interim coach somebody’s got to sign the checks in the meantime.

  144. d1shima December 5, 2011 2:13 pm

    Hawaii News Now breaking…

    it’s over

  145. al December 5, 2011 2:14 pm

    norm chow is not in the picture…at all.

  146. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:14 pm

    Surprising no leaks of the ‘DECISON’

  147. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:15 pm

    How the heck does an interim head coach help recruiting? I think it hurts recruiting. If you are a recruit, you would rather know who the long term new guy will be instead of the interim coach. Why would you commit to a school who is going to change coaches in a year. STUPID decision by UH if that is the path they take.

    I am starting to get pissed, and all we know is speculation. I have a vested interest in this program succeeding, and this whole situation is bothering me.

    And yeah, Kate Gosselin is a huge BIT__!!!

  148. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:16 pm

    resigned? hey, i was half right. 😆

  149. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:17 pm

    O well thats one way to get out of buy out clause.

  150. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    Resigned . . . does anyone else have that bad, awkward feeling you get when you break up with a girlfriend/boyfriend?

    Nope? Me either.

  151. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    interim doesn’t have to be for an extended time period. like al said, someone needs to be in control until a new hc is signed sealed and delivered.

  152. Old Diver December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    If it’s Miano, I wonder if he has the ability to make coaching changes. Ashely Lelie WR coach, Colt Brennan QB coach and an o-line coach versed in pass blocking. Talk Tomey into retirement and put Cal Lee in charge of special teams.

  153. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    Just kidding, I kinda do. But he will coach again somewhere I’m sure. He is a good defensive coordinater. Bet he ends up with JJ.

  154. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:18 pm

    University of Hawaii head football coach Greg McMackin is meeting with his players and staff this afternoon to tell them he has resigned, Hawaii News Now has learned.

  155. bigislandkurt December 5, 2011 2:19 pm

    So does that mean Rich Miano will be the “interim” head coach?


  156. al December 5, 2011 2:19 pm

    kev-1…interim coach. not one year, not half a year, one month or so.



    interim coach.

  157. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:19 pm

    if given the chance, i would date kate. 👿

  158. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:20 pm

    If her resigned so UH doesn’t have to buy him out, that is ONE HELL OF A RESPECTABLE MOVE.

  159. CHEE! December 5, 2011 2:20 pm

    If UH did not fire him and Coach Mack resigns as the news states, does UH still pay him $1.1million?

  160. cocobean December 5, 2011 2:20 pm

    If they do let Mack goI hope they have all their ducks lined up in a row.

    Things like a list of likely candidates they have made contact with who in return has shown some interest. Commitments from donors who will help defray the costs of Mack’s buyout or help subsidize a “name” coach’s salary.

    If these are things they’ll start working on now, it’s too late.

  161. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:20 pm

    #158 . . . thanks AL, I needed that.

  162. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:21 pm

    He, could end up in wazzu. he has ties with leach.

  163. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:22 pm

    SA is now reporting the resignation.

  164. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:23 pm

    #159 if you b— her, be sure to use protection.

  165. Old School Dave December 5, 2011 2:24 pm

    Don’t think Norm Chow has UH on his mind anymore. Burned bridges when he applied for the job in 1995 thanks to Hugh Yoshida. Chow will probably finish out his coaching career at Utah where he took a major salary cut to coach at after leaving UCLA ($275,000 now compared to $640,000 at UCLA) and is content being where he is.

  166. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:24 pm

    Ya if he resigns no need pay the buy out clause. Resign usually means voluntary. that a hell of a move on his part. Maybe they both agreed to a lesser buyout. Got to wait for the specs.

  167. Stretch December 5, 2011 2:26 pm

    Mack is taking a buyout for less. Respectable.

  168. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:28 pm

    Should be a pretty emotional presser. Mack is an emotional guy. Starting to feel bad. Somebody slap me.

  169. Uce 2 December 5, 2011 2:29 pm

    I would not take seriously any comments made by any of the regulars here with regard to the future and Mac. After all, these are the same people who said Colt was a God and Mac was great. Miano should take the reins. If not him, then Cal Lee. If not him, then Tokuda from Leilehua. If not him, then some other local coach. That works for me.

  170. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:30 pm

    no local high school coach should be a head coach for UH

  171. Garret December 5, 2011 2:30 pm

    Short-term interim designation does make sense because someone needs to be in charge now until a new head coach is hired. The walk-on tryouts are in 2 months or so, and coach Miano will definitely be in charge of that.

  172. Garret December 5, 2011 2:32 pm

    Buyouts for less than the full amount remaining on the contract is how many other schools have done it, so I’m guessing that the negotiations came up with a dollar amount that both sides could live with. I wish Coach Mack well in his next job or in his retirement in Vegas, whatever he decides to do now.

  173. Dan-O December 5, 2011 2:35 pm

    Anyone with a heart with have mixed emotions. Bottom line, Mack was a nice, likeable guy. He had the best interests of the team and state, even to the very end. His resignation speaks volumes to the type of man he is….maybe not the right coach, at the right time, but nonetheless….a man of good character.

    We won’t realize how much, until he is long gone, which is quite sad.

  174. Uce 2 December 5, 2011 2:35 pm

    Great news. Now, the more important decision. The future. Do mess this up Hinshaw and Donovan.

  175. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:37 pm

    Ya I agree primo.

  176. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:38 pm

    GOD BLESS COACH MACK. We know where is HEART is at.

  177. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:39 pm

    Ya in going miss mack. Good luck coach and best wishes to your future endeavors. U will be missed.

  178. A.M. December 5, 2011 2:40 pm

    Breaking news: Ferd Lewis & Dave Reardon have requested and been accepted to be Co-Head Coaches for the upcoming year.

    p.s. Just kidding.

  179. TaeBo Jackson December 5, 2011 2:41 pm

    Let the guessing begin!

    Pat Hill?

  180. RedZone December 5, 2011 2:41 pm

    This is a sad day for me. I liked coach Mack.

  181. primo123 December 5, 2011 2:42 pm

    no! not pat hill

  182. Old Diver December 5, 2011 2:42 pm

    Coach Mack kept true to his only rule. Don’t embarrass the program. He is stepping down with class. Good luck.

  183. Couch potato December 5, 2011 2:42 pm

    3:00pm news conference,

    reporter: coach mack, any departing words?

    coach mack: psych! (tsaik)

  184. Old Diver December 5, 2011 2:43 pm


    Lucky for us you put in the p.s.

  185. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:43 pm

    Going be tough for the next coach. Going have high expectations from him.

  186. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 2:44 pm

    Good luck to Coach Mack and the rest of the staff! Thank you for all the hard work.

  187. jeezy33 December 5, 2011 2:46 pm


    we might as well just recruit the whole starting lineup at Waimea if thats the case because as long as the team shows heart and character, that’s all that matters. lol

  188. A.M. December 5, 2011 2:46 pm

    Nah, S.T. might prefer to be Chancellor of Athletics.

  189. LETS GO BOWS December 5, 2011 2:46 pm

    mac just resigned checkout the advertiser.

  190. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2011 2:47 pm

    Officially, it is called a “retirement.”

  191. funny December 5, 2011 2:47 pm

    Mack has a track record which will allow him to land on his feet and live comfortably. I anxiously await further news regarding the HC position.

  192. kev-1 December 5, 2011 2:49 pm

    who’s televising the press conference? it is 3pm, no presser

  193. Iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 2:50 pm

    Best of luck to Mack.

  194. Darren December 5, 2011 2:51 pm

    There was never a question about the man’s heart and intentions…best wishes to Coach Mack in the future.

    Thanks to the entire staff for their time, energy and effort in giving us Warrior football.

  195. Slugger December 5, 2011 2:51 pm

    It’s sad to lose a good person like Mack, but if Athletics & the Admin are looking to have a better record in the tough MWC, I guess they are gonna take a bet on someone else. Good luck to Coach McMackin (and his family) whatever you do.

    Saw Coach Mouse Davis and his lovely wife Mary Lou at the Na Koa lunch today, along with Coach Rolo. Mouse is not coming back next year. Maybe we’ll get to see them at away games. Hope Rolo stays as well as some of the other coaches. I don’t know enough to compare so I just appreciate the work they all put in.

  196. Haleakala December 5, 2011 2:51 pm

    Greg McMackin is a good man, the type that you would like as a neighbor and friend. But it’s a tough business which like any other business is dictated on the bottom by revenues versus costs. Unfortunately revenues have been dropping and will continue to drop unless a change was made. Meanwhile costs will increase next year. The next coach will need to bring hope and excitement in order for the fans to re-embrace the program. Meanwhile best wishes to Coach McMackin.

  197. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 2:52 pm

    Truly a classy guy.

  198. Old Diver December 5, 2011 2:52 pm

    I guess rubbing salt in the wound is the new normal for some around here.

  199. rich2176 December 5, 2011 2:53 pm

    #176 – Excellent!!!

    I’ve had the pleasure of meeting Mack at a couple of golf events, Pro Days here in L.A., and a few road games passing by in the hotel lobby. He is a man of the utmost character and class. We’ll miss you. Many blessings to him and his family.

  200. 99club December 5, 2011 2:53 pm

    Mahalo, Coach. Best wishes to you and yours in the future.

  201. Souljah December 5, 2011 2:54 pm

    Tony tuioti, Jeff Ulbrich, and Adrian Klemm should all highly be considered to be a part of the future staff in my opinion. All will be great coaches of football and life, recruiters, and motivators!

  202. A.M. December 5, 2011 2:55 pm

    I like Coach Mac. I’m very saddened that he’ll be leaving. Best wishes to him & his family – I’m sure he’ll do well wherever he goes.

  203. Derek December 5, 2011 2:56 pm

    Greg McMackin is a first class guy all the way. He could have been fired and got paid the full amount next year. He worked with the university on an acceptable agreement for less to resign gracefully. He has said all along in his words “I love this University, I love my players, I love my coaches, and I love our fans.” And he truly means it. He graduated his players, ran a clean program. He just had 2 mis-steps in his tenure. One was the pre-season coaches media day a couple of years ago and the other was the Hawaii Bowl banquet

    when he said something about Notre Dame. He was never “quick with the wit” and wasn’t always eloquent, nor a smooth talker. I looked at him as more of a “doer” rather than a “manager”. Don’t get me wrong. He did manage people and he was a manager being in a leadership position. I was a manager at a bank, and I was measured on results and production. The bottom line was the bottom line. College football is no different just more in the limelight because it is big business. Don’t produce to somebody’s expectations, gone today, or tomorrow. People move on. Greg McMackin will find another job somewhere soon.

    Maybe at Washington St. where he worked under Mike Leach at Texas Tech. Maybe he will be reunited with Erickson someplace. Above all, I think we can safely say that Coach Mack has our respect and we thank him for his service to our univerisity. He said at a gathering when he first got to be Head Coach that his goal was for the University of Hawaii to be the Miami(Fla) of the West. I was at that gathering at the Kahala Hilton. A strange thing happened along the way. The old Miami(Fla) powerhouse teams of the 1990s and early 2002s is now playing more like the Univeristy of Hawaii. Maybe he is a prophet.

  204. Bulla December 5, 2011 2:56 pm

    mahalo to coach mack, god bless and god speed


  205. Uce 2 December 5, 2011 2:56 pm

    Mac is a good man, but that is not what this is about. This is about football and winning. End of story. Jesus is a good man; Buddah is a good man; ST is a good man; and, on and on and on, is that your point, Old Diver?

    Good luck to you, Mac.

  206. kapakahi December 5, 2011 2:57 pm

    Rough for assistant coaches. Hope everything works out for them. All good guys!!!

  207. Old School Dave December 5, 2011 2:57 pm

    Coach McMackin did the best he could with what he had. I’m sure he really cared for his players. I’m also sure that he will land on his feet at a BCS school as a defensive coordinator where he really excels at.

  208. Stretch December 5, 2011 2:57 pm

    Live stream from UH website. 330pm press conference.

  209. Dan-O December 5, 2011 2:58 pm

    In regards to the coaches, it depends on who the next head coach is…..that person will have the option of retaining coaches, bringing in his own, and letting others go.

    I assume it will be pretty obvious that Rolo and Aranda will not be the coordinators next year. Mouse and Tomey wont be back…..I think we’ve seen the last of Lumpkin, Cal Lee and Brian Smith.

    This just leaves Miano and Tony Tuioti. I would assume that Tuioti would be retained, as he’s the recruiting coordinator…and the next coach would need to retain some of the current recruiting ties. Miano would assist with the transition from old to new.

  210. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 2:59 pm

    Would be a gud staff souljah. But doubt all those guys would come here. Tuioti and Ulbrich as asst could happen. Don’t see Klemm coming. But who knows…..

  211. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:00 pm

    deese guys say the gonna live stream at 330pm

  212. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:01 pm

    i thought i saw….S TSAI is up for Women’s locker room monitor…..??….wtf!!

  213. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:02 pm

    I hope they get a coach soon. So recruiting can go on.

  214. eagle December 5, 2011 3:03 pm

    Good Luck to Coach Mack & Staffers (both staying — hired interim or by next coach — and leaving) …

    Will be Watching and Enjoying Your Progress (assuredly) over the coming years … The successful ‘Alumni’ coaches & players are a source of Pride (recent & past) … No Doubt you’ll land on your feet and some even land full-speed runnin’

    Aloha & Mahalo

  215. Souljah December 5, 2011 3:04 pm

    thanks 808Bowler…was just dreaming for an awesome recruiting staff, and they all would be assistants.

  216. cocobean December 5, 2011 3:04 pm

    Fans better be patient for the next few years. Competing in the MWC is going to be more difficult than the WAC.

    When you look at our talent level in the three deeps you find some good starters but not many quality backups. The MWC might be a small stepup from the WAC but it is a step up.

    We’ll need more good athletes to compete there.

    If you thought LaTech, Utah State, Idaho and San Jse were difficult road trips, go back to the old WAC and check what our road record was at SDSU, Wyoming, Air Force and CSU. There were seasons we went Ofer the road.

    Unless the new guy is someone currently on staff ( and I hope it’s not) there’s going to be a loss of continuity. New staff for the most part. New systems. The new guy will have to get the current players to buy in to whatever he’s selling and have some time to recruit the athletes that fit his systems.

  217. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:06 pm

    Coach Mac the best to you and your family.

    UH now is the time to establish a map with goals to achieve of where they want the UH football program to be 3 years, 5 years, 10 years from now, etc. etc. Like a business you need a business plan of what the university wants to achieve with their football program.

    The UH football program is our racing car. Our racing car is not the fastest and most reliable. At times we have a good driver (coach) at times not. Remember the vehicle that we are creating to establish a continuous winning program is lacking. Commit to the type of vehicle we will be riding & racing with. What’s the sense in having the greates driver when your vehicle does not belong on those race tracks of the BCS. If our vehicle is not improved UH will be spinning their wheels and after a while us fans will be tired of the same o same o.

  218. Wes'side Warrior December 5, 2011 3:07 pm

    Well, good luck, Coach Mack and ‘ohana. Mahalo for all you’ve done and tried to do! We will probably never find another as genuine and well-meaning as you. There were lots of great things begun by you and your staff in trying to reconnect with local high schools… with fans on the neighbor islands… in getting all seniors to graduate… etc. I hope these things continue.

    I grew up with aloha, ahonui, lokahi, etc. I feel lots of cynicism now.

    Any coach we have from this point forward better not have a losing record, no matter what. OC, DC, Special Teams, injuries, no excuse will be acceptable. If UH wants to win big with better recruits, we better lower our admissions standards to match those of the big money schools. It’s all about winning and money now, nothing else matters.

  219. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 3:10 pm

    I wonder if Rob Akey or the Utah St. head coach would be interested.

  220. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:12 pm

    UH women’s volleyball, we think national championship again soon.

    UH football, we think of winning and going to the Hawaii Bowl.

    Will we ever think of winning a national championship in football. Slim and none based on the mindset of those in charge of the major decisions.

  221. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:12 pm

    #223 – We had that driver with JJ, and the head mechanic (HF) forgot the jack.

    BTW, did anyone see where Peterson is p!$$$ed at the current BCS system. Boise has been hosed 3 years. And everyone thought Hawaii got no respect.

  222. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:13 pm

    That’s what im saying too coco.

  223. Wes'side Warrior December 5, 2011 3:13 pm

    Live Stream now on HNN of the locker room… what a depressing place at the moment.

  224. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 3:13 pm

    Looks like most of the team showed up to support Mack. What a contrast to Colt’s conference.

    And yeah, Colt was god-like in many respects. You don’t agree?

  225. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:15 pm


    It is a conspiracy. Those with the gold makes the rules, meaning kala and power.

  226. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:15 pm

    I just had a visual that would give me nightmares – Pat Hill as the UH coach standing on the sidelines with a lei. But, I love his attitude – Anyone, anytime, anywhere!! That should be the Warriors mantra.

  227. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:15 pm

    How bout Jeff Reinbold. Any thots on him? Just curious. Was a coordinator in nfl europe and here and smu.

  228. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:15 pm

    BCS will never let us win a national championship.

  229. Dan-O December 5, 2011 3:16 pm

    im not getting anything on the stream….except the dumb commercial

  230. Redondowarrior December 5, 2011 3:17 pm

    Mahalo coach! Best wishes

  231. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:17 pm

    how about Gib’s basketball?….we need to win one in the dance!

  232. AlaWai December 5, 2011 3:17 pm

    I remember when Bob Wagner was fired to head in a “new” direction. I remember the eloquent and erudite “philosopher” coach we brought in. I remember the promise of a WC offense and elevation to the “next level”. Be careful of what you wish for; it could come true.

    Coach McMackin, mahalo for staying here when the invitation to SMU was on the table. Mahalo for being involved in the players lives especially academically. Thank you for being a good citizen of Hawai`i. Thank you for the recruits you have brought here to keep our program strong.

    God Bless You and your family and find great success in your future endeavors.

  233. MattyBoy December 5, 2011 3:17 pm

    God Bless you coach Mack! Thank you for all that you have done for the Warrior program!

  234. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:18 pm

    no more commercials on this stream

  235. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:18 pm

    #231 – Like the ESPN radio guys I listen to here in L.A. say – The bubbas made the rules and unless you got the same kind of truck and gun as them, you can’t play.

  236. Stephen Tsai December 5, 2011 3:19 pm

    Nationwide search begins now. I think it was nine days in landing Gib Arnold.

    No word yet on the salary range.

  237. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 3:19 pm

    Live Stream on UH siote just showing the empty podium.

    Live Stream on Hawaii News now showing static shot of the players. Funny, they don’t look happy.

  238. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:20 pm

    Men’s volleyball. Put a banner up stating winner of the final four (can’t remember the year). See how the NCAA makes us forget. In small print “not acknowledged by the NCAA.” Anything wrong with that?

  239. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 3:20 pm

    Starting now.

  240. AlaWai December 5, 2011 3:21 pm

    Live feed at UH.

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  242. cocobean December 5, 2011 3:25 pm

    #226. We’re not in a BCS conference. No chance of playing for the NC if we aren’t in the right conference. JD would sell his soul to the devil to get into one of those conferences.

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  247. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:29 pm

    did he say hes’ DONATING 500K to the football program?????????????

  248. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:29 pm

    BS . . . that is not a voluntary resignation speech. He was not happy with retiring, that was obvious. Pretty shady of the ADMIN to keep saying “his decision.” If it was, he would have had more to say.

  249. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:30 pm

    wow LAU LAU

  250. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:31 pm

    dont state the obvious…..we all KNOW he aint retiring cuz he wants to………


  251. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:31 pm

    Bumbai da truth come out.

  252. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:32 pm

    256 . . . of course it is obvious, I am just pointing out that they kept saying it was “his decision.” Why didn’t they just speak the truth? That’s all I’m saying.

  253. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:33 pm

    Why can’t they say the truth? He not coming back cuz the stadium empty.

  254. Hiflyer December 5, 2011 3:33 pm

    primo123 – I think he said that he is going to forgo 500k of his 1.1 mil salary as part of the settelment to retire.

  255. sean (aka pcwarrior) December 5, 2011 3:34 pm

    God speed Coach Mack, thank you for your dedication to the athletes, coaches, and school.



  256. tommui December 5, 2011 3:34 pm

    Thank you Coach Mac!

  257. numbah1 December 5, 2011 3:34 pm

    #43 No . . . she’s in her own dreamy world.

  258. LizKauai December 5, 2011 3:34 pm

    Sad day for Hawaii Football. Mahalo for everything you did for the kids, Coach Greg McMackin.

    We are all in God’s Hands.

  259. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:35 pm

    Hi…yeah i know….he’s going out in a blaze of glory….

  260. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:35 pm

    which God?

  261. LizKauai December 5, 2011 3:35 pm

    Wonder who the haters are going to hate next…

  262. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:35 pm

    A class person.

    A giving person.

  263. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:35 pm

    Ya really shady and dirty. Miano named interim.

  264. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:36 pm

    We close one Chapter…..Another will soon Open…..God has a Plan…..

  265. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:36 pm

    Miano, that’s who.

  266. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:36 pm

    If I heard right, he started by saying “I’m here to announce my resig…retirement…” Anyone else catch that?

  267. Dan-O December 5, 2011 3:36 pm

    Coach Mack giving up $500,000? He’s a bigger man than many of us…..

  268. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:37 pm

    #266…Kev…this God plays a 4-3…no worries….

  269. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:38 pm

    #272….YUP!!…CAUGHT DAT….FREUDIAN SLIP DERE….BUT….coach mack’s trademark’s been slippage of the tonguage…..oh my..

  270. kev-1 December 5, 2011 3:38 pm

    primo . . . like em! too funny

  271. al December 5, 2011 3:39 pm

    aloha mack…you gave it your best shot.

    God bless you and your family!

  272. AdmrVT December 5, 2011 3:41 pm

    Al, don’t think new coach will be on board before New Year’s. They need to post, and “National search” tells me they will have a “committee”, review applications, interviews, etc. Lucky if they have coach in place before LOI.

    And, even then, until they pick a coach, what is the current staff going to say to a recruit? They don’t even know if they will be retained.

    Who to blame? Upper Campus. They only begrudgingly continue to have an athletic program. Just a matter of time before “doomsday” scenario plays out for UH athletics.

    Unless there is a turn around in their thinking of the salary range, the new head coach will either be a re-tread, or an assistant coach they decide to take a chance on with no track record as a head coach.

    Everyone has thrown out a bunch of names – none so far seem realistic.

  273. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 3:42 pm

    Liz you got such a nice way to say things to people that show hatred.

  274. A.M. December 5, 2011 3:42 pm

    I hope this move doesn’t bite us in the rear & put the program 10 steps backward just for the sake of change. Finding good coaches now (especially when you got so many schools ‘shopping’ for coaches) aint going to come cheap (and it seems this administration can only afford cheap):

    “Arizona paid its assistants $1,506,510 in base salary in 2010, which ranked seventh in the conference. The money available to Rodriguez for assistants likely will increase by about a third.

    “Salaries in the coaching world have exploded,” Rodriguez said last week, talking about money for assistant coaches.

    “I’m not complaining, because they have been good for head coaches, too,” he added with a chuckle. “But the assistant coaches are what have really taken off. That’s just part of the market.”

  275. UHbacker December 5, 2011 3:42 pm

    UH football will rise again, and soon you all will have a new coach to cherish, ALoha to Mac.

  276. Hiflyer December 5, 2011 3:42 pm

    Did JD mention anyone as the interim caoch?

  277. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:43 pm

    I have NEVER heard of anyone receiving over 50% of their contract salary if they decide to “retire” prior to the end of the term. I would LOVE to find his employment agreement and read the contract language for “retirement”. UH was in a catch-22 ‘cuz if they fired him, he’s owed $1.1m. Since he retired, people gonna say “why is he still getting $600k? He retired. Is this some kind of parting gift?” No win for either side.

  278. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 3:44 pm


    “McMackin had one season left on a five-year deal worth $1.1 million annually. As part of the agreement, McMackin accepted a buyout for $600,000. The university will begin a national search for McMackin’s replacement immediately. UH assistant coach Rich Miano will serve as interim head coach.”—–

  279. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 3:45 pm

    Didn’t take long for ESPN an headline

  280. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 3:45 pm

    Yes. Rich miano is interim

  281. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:45 pm

    lack of attendance….wins….not gonna cut it in JD’s watch…..if you dont win….and if they dont come……you will be replaced…….its written in stone.

    what was his coaches criteria again?…..anyone got it?

  282. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 3:46 pm

    What a turn of events. Coach Mack went from negotiating his extension to resigning.

  283. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 3:46 pm

    I think I heard Donovan state that Mack was going to help the program in the interim, something that he wanted to do out of his own generosity.

    Curious as to what he meant by that. Or I heard wrong.

  284. AdmrVT December 5, 2011 3:46 pm

    And, the spooky thing is, we had 26 seniors. Many of the players this year are freshmen who are redshirting, or sophomores. But, given they are so young, how many may transfer out during the spring and summer?

    We are now embarking on a 3 year rebuilding program, and will be just like New Mexico St. and Utah St. a few years ago. This is going to be a major rebuild. But, we get what we asked for — only problem is, we are looking for someone to lead this effort, and don’t know if we will get a “June Jones” savior, or another Fred Von Appen. We don’t know as it is likely we will end up with an assistant coach from somewhere looking for his chance at a head coaching job. Don’t think the critics fully realized where they were going to end up in advocating change.

    Did someone say we should maybe try Fred Lewis or David Reardon? Maybe. They sure talk like they know better. May as well give them a try. Can’t be worse than Von Appen, right?

  285. bigislandkurt December 5, 2011 3:47 pm

    People need to remember that Miano’s Interim tag may only last as long as a week or until the new coach is named. Now if he is an applicant and gets the job, that is a whole different story. But very rarely do new coaches get appointed from the former coach’s regime….especially if the coach left under bad circumstances. Now the language involved says that mack retired……this may not constitute a bad circumstance, but for all those involved, we know how this came to a head. Yet I’m not going out on a limb to say that Miano won’t be the future coach because this is Hawaii….and anything is possible in Hawaii.


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    This is Mrs. Momo. I gave the recipe for mochi-making to your mainland friend. I realize I forgot to mention that Pam or some such spray needs to be put in the bottom of the glass tube pan. Could you pass on that info. Thanks.

  287. primo123 December 5, 2011 3:50 pm

    at least Mack didnt leave the program in shambles like VON APPEN did. We have the system, offense and defense…we jus need to find the PLAYERS now.

    we shall see.

  288. A-joe December 5, 2011 3:50 pm

    To our Warrior athletes:

    Now is the worse time to sit around, sulk, feel sorry for Mack and wait for changes. It’s counter productive and doesn’t change the inevitable.

    All you have control over is yourself. Set your sights on next year. Get out there and start lifting. Start running. Engross yourselves in your schoolwork. Keep the program moving forward.

    Once the dust settles and all the puzzles fall into place, you better be more than ready take this program to a new level!

    A new dawn has risen. I MUA!!

  289. rich2176 December 5, 2011 3:51 pm

    Dang – google is great:

    Ferd wrote this in February 2008:

    It would cost Greg McMackin half a year’s salary, $550,000, to leave his University of Hawai’i head football coaching position before the expiration of his five-year contract, according to a copy of the agreement recently made public.

    It looks like it cost UH another $50k??? HUH?????????????????

  290. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 3:52 pm

    Well no one knows if anyone is going to be a schools savior. It’s all a gamble. That’s the problem with not being able to look into a crystal ball and telling the future. I blame the crystal ball manufacturers on this one.

  291. Buffoman December 5, 2011 3:53 pm


    Maybe nobody wants to address the obvious.

    If football is football and we all love football,

    and if all of our “blue chip” players play away from home,

    and if we only want to pay small dollars,

    and no real “name: conference wants us,

    Maybe the question is, “are we at the wrong dance?”

    Maybe we should be the best at DII or DIII, so that,

    we can pay a get a good DII or DIII level coach,

    so, our no “blue chip” local players have a place to play,

    so, we don’t have to worry because we not going to BCS Bowl but will go to a play off,and,

    we can play at Roosevelt Stadium and sell out there and not worry about having to fill Aloha Stadium and not worry about swap meet or parking or being shafted by the State.

    The last part was a bit of sarcasm but for the most part why doesn’t the “Powers that be” up on the Hill be Regents and make the tough call. Can’t be in this half A__ed situation and expect different outcomes. That’s insanity.

  292. CoolEthan December 5, 2011 3:59 pm

    If Coach Mack continues to pursue coaching, he will be snatched quickly. He’s a good man and coach.

    He committed and did re-shape a program, but I still don’t believe he was sastified with the complete product of where he wanted it. That first year was a doozy with hiring the wrong coaches out of appeasement to the community.

    It was time to move on.

    Difficult circumstances trying to build a circle of coaches out here in the islands, appeasing to the community, boosters and such. Plenty of distractions and different customs.

    Just time to start fresh and morph into what is evolving around CFB, a faster operating offense, If you wan’t to keep up.

  293. LizKauai December 5, 2011 4:01 pm

    Buffoman- actually, I almost posted last night that UH may have to step away from the D1 conference insanity and save some semblance of football by dropping to DII and lowering academic requirements.

    If a glorified high school audience is what everyone wants… that may be what Hawaii gets…

    As a step towards eliminating the program all together in about 10 years…for $$ reasons.

  294. A.M. December 5, 2011 4:01 pm

    I’m with you Buffoman. I don’t want to see us go below Div I but I surely question the wisdom of UH’s “Powers that be.”

  295. CoolEthan December 5, 2011 4:03 pm

    Good point Rich > 50K differential

  296. Thomas December 5, 2011 4:04 pm

    If Mack really is choosing to retire, why is the state buying him out of his contract for $600,000? Greg McMackin is choosing to quit after 4 of his 5 year contract, and taxpayers are paying him over half of the remaining salary for work that he isn’t going to do.

    So not only is Greg McMackin a bad coach, he is also a quitter who gets paid to quit. Don’t give me these lies about him being a nice guy by leaving $500,000 on the table. He should leave the entire $1 million since he is choosing to retire.

  297. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 4:05 pm

    A $500,000 to $600,000 salary to the new HC at UH will be in the lower 3rd of college football HC’s pay.

  298. koakane December 5, 2011 4:05 pm

    kden peeps nuff with the coach mac bashing he has resigned. now it up to where the real problem lurks and that is the UH. We’ll now see how much “commitment to excellence” will be made to improve the program.

    mahalo to mac for allowing the fball program to grow. thanks for leaving the fball program with a better opportunity in planning its future. always looked out for the best of others. class with dignity. good luck in your future endeavors.

  299. LizKauai December 5, 2011 4:05 pm

    Ditto A-Joe.

    WARRIORS. You have been trained how to deal with every kind of adversity by a coach who taught by example. It is your turn to make your own destiny.

    The best way to show appreciation for your coach is by staying UNITED and FOCUSED on LOVE.


  300. CoolEthan December 5, 2011 4:05 pm

    Many of us here shared the same excitement of a balanced run and passing offense. Time to put the traditional R & S to rest, and hybrid it up to the coming 2012 speeds.

  301. primo123 December 5, 2011 4:14 pm

    I WONDER wen STSAI’s gonna post some SCOOPS.

  302. Da Punchbowl Kid December 5, 2011 4:19 pm

    Thanks for all you have done for our state and our team Coach Mack. You have helped build championship teams here and molded true scholar athletes.

    You came with your eyes and heart wide open and your head up. You go the same way.

    God Bless you and yours always.

    “May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back, and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.”

    Old Irish Saying

  303. wait a minute December 5, 2011 4:19 pm

    Isn’t it obvious? If they fired him they have to pay him all $1.1 million. He’s agreeing to retire for less than that. If both parties agree they don’t have to follow the contract. Ask Counselor Mui for heaven’s sake.

  304. tommui December 5, 2011 4:19 pm

    #302 – he did not chose to “retire”. Anyone that thinks that is obviously IQ deficient.

    He could have chosen to be fired – and that way he would get his 1.1mil.

  305. chopsueyboy December 5, 2011 4:22 pm

    Mahalo Coach Mack. Take care of yourself and the Mrs.

  306. Manoa Mist December 5, 2011 4:22 pm

    God bless Coach Mack. Giving up $500,000 for the University is more than most of us will ever do for the school in our lifetimes. We wish him and his family the best.

  307. jonj December 5, 2011 4:23 pm

    JJ took 2 of the worst teams ever and turned them around into something relevant. We had him we messed up and lost him! JJ is probably the best coach ever and I hope he gets a BCS team to show us what we really had! But to fire coach Mack and say he was a shitty head coach really makes me mad at all of you haters! He realistically was the one who made our program go into the right direction! 99, 2007, 2010 were all products of macks! He got us into MWC and this is how we repay him??? I was down all of last year mainly becuz we didnt know where we were headed and he had a great season with really no INJURIES and 3 seasoned NFL recievers. Now look at the talent we have coming back:

    David Graves soph

    Trevor Davis true freshman

    Joey Iosefa RS freshman

    Justin Clapp soph

    Billy-Ray Stutzman soph

    Allen Sampson soph

    Miah Ostrowski junior

    Sean Shigemastu RS resh

    Chauncy Winchester-Makainai soph

    David Lefotu RS fresh

    Jordan Loeffler RS fresh

    All started this past season and gained valuable experience. With this YOUNG group right here we have or had the future of the RnS and Now I dont know where we are gonna go with these guys or if these guys will be good in another system.


    John Hardy-tuliau soph

    Mike edwards soph

    Mike Sellers RS fresh

    Art laurel soph

    Paipai falemalu junior

    Beau Yap RS fresh

    Moses Samia RS fresh

    Haiku Correa junior

    Geordon Hanohano junior

    All these guys contributed and had good season! Especially Art laurel and John hardy-tuliau. Cant wait to see brendan daley, george daily-lyles

    So where do we go from here?? I believe if we want instant success we have to either stay in some sort of passing offense or maybe the spread in order to utilize the current players on the team.

  308. A.M. December 5, 2011 4:23 pm

    Maybe Ferd Lombardi (alias Lewis) & Knute Reardon (alias Dave) will apply & get hired (since UH could probably get them for a $1 over their current salary). If we lose, no problem – just toast them & fire ’em after the first game. (If they can dish it, they can take it, right?)

  309. duffer December 5, 2011 4:26 pm

    MAHALO and ALOHA Coach!

  310. Roosevelt Warrior December 5, 2011 4:28 pm

    #302 – get the facts right… he has a contact that would have paid him the 1.1 million $$$

    Quitter.. what the hell you know… before you call someone a quitter know the facts…

    He could have took the money and run…. I have been going to games since 1975 missed maybe 2 home games… How many games have you gone, have long have you supported the team…

  311. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 4:30 pm

    We lost a good coach in Greg McMackin. This season was quite baffling. One play here and there and this team could’ve been 9-4.(Mike Edwards missed INT’s) Mack did the best with what he had. Thanks Mack for getting us our second WAC championship in 3 years… Good luck to Mack on future endeavors…

    I hope the guys who were calling for his head put their money where their mouth is and actually pay to go to the games next season… Or will they just start complaining after we play USC…

  312. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 4:32 pm


    Spot on with your post…

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  314. Kaimuki Kid December 5, 2011 4:34 pm

    I guess all the loud ones and the ones that like to pick on the positive people are estatic that the coach has retired. You got what you wished for, me I’ll just keep supporting the team and hope that next coach has a fast start and connection with Hawaii in order to keep the vultures and the whiners happy.

    I am hoping that JD and Upper Campus gets it right this time and puts the new coach in place ASAP. Foot dragging is a diesease here.

    Coach Mack and Staff, thank you for all your efforts in producing good student atheletes that are graduating on time and plyed without quitting. Mahalo and Good Luck in the future.

  315. Chee Hoo December 5, 2011 4:42 pm

    JD and Hinshaw are full of it! Voluntary resignation, yeah right! Mack ain’t donating his $500k willingly.

    It only gets worse for UH football. Did you hear JD’s comments on posting the job for 10 days due to state/federal regulations! There’s no such thing as a federal posting. Let’s cut the red tape and b.s. and hire a coach el pronto! Washington St. hired Mike Leach in a matter of 48 hrs! We don’t need the BOR and some search committee to sit on the hiring process! They’re clueless in regards to football.

    Gotta love JJ and Herman Frazier, they’re laughing at UH now!

  316. AlaWai December 5, 2011 4:42 pm

    Football has an economy of scale. If the core fan base is 15,000, a budget should be established to fit the base. The non-premium seat prices should be dropped to make it more affordable for everyone. Keep the alcohol prices high but drop the food and soft drink prices.

    Our goal should be seven wins a season to qualify for the H. Bowl. Forget the RPI, because unless there is a NC playoff system, we don’t have a prayer. Schedule similar schools at home who want to treat the Hawaii game as a bowl game.

    Hire a HC at $500K and look for double-dipper retiree types who want to come here to coach. He doesn’t need to be local, just a gentleman and a people person.

    Tweak the RNS so it is uniquely ours and intern coaches who want to learn to coach it. Remember JJ went after St. Louis players because they ran the same offense. Anyone who thinks we can recruit for a pro set or WC offense should remember the very well spoken, football genius who replaced Bob Wagner.

    Heavily market Hawaii football camps that are affordable or free to local players.

    Keep the price of PPV for seniors low but raise the commercial prices for bars and venues showing the game. They can afford to pay it.

    We’ll get the 20K fans at each game, make it to the Hawaii Bowl, get lucky every few years with a high level surprise player and maybe get on TV.

    Go Warriors!

  317. LizKauai December 5, 2011 4:42 pm

    From the people who really count:

    Paipai Falemalu:

    Today a terrible thing happened they released our head coach Greg McMackin… first of all i would like to tell coach Mac thanks for all that you have done for me and bringing me into the program that i always dreamed of playing for THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING COACH MAC…to all you haters out there you wouldn’t be able to do what these coaches do…ALWAYS BACKIN MCMACKIN…

    Corey Paredes:

    For those people that wanted coach Mac out I pity u, Because u didn’t even know him!

    Brashton Satele:

    Always backin McMackin!


  318. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2011 4:44 pm

    apply for the HC job # 0080110

  319. expat December 5, 2011 4:44 pm

    What is the official date of McMackin’s contract? If it is March like the assistants he would be owed quite a bit more than 1.1M for the remainder.

  320. RedZone December 5, 2011 4:46 pm

    Jim Donovan was on the radio. He is in no rush to find a new head coach. He said it is more important to find the right fit.

  321. Kevin December 5, 2011 4:46 pm

    I’ve been reading blogs long enough to know that when someone starts off saying “we the TAXPAYERS” the rest of the post is usually CRAP.

  322. AlaWai December 5, 2011 4:51 pm

    Mahalo Liz for sharing the Players’ mana`o. They knew the character of the coach. They knew the adversity faced this year. They lived it. And now we know, they read the blogs too. Coach Mac will be the first to tell his team and coaches to stay together as a team and to keep believing. We can only hope that the new HC is of the same mold.

  323. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2011 4:54 pm

    MQ (minimum qualifications) – they’re looking at 5 years college level.

    D 1 “desireable”.

  324. Garret December 5, 2011 4:55 pm

    Buffoman and Liz,

    UH *cannot* drop down to D-IA or D-II. Those schools cannot afford to send their teams to Hawaii to play. UH can afford travel subsidies to MWC schools, but can UH afford to pay travel subsidies to D-IAA schools? The reduced competition, reduced BCS trickle-down money (WAC and MWC gets BCS money even when no non-AQ school goes to the BCS), and reduced TV ratings will kill UH’s revenue.

    UH’s women’s teams would also be devastated by the drop in football scholarships. The 22 less scholarships for Title IX would probably result in 2-3 or so teams being eliminated…with a very good chance that there would be no more softball team, for example.

  325. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 4:57 pm

    I don’t understand this attendance excuse to fire someone. Attendance may not be where UH wants it but since when has UH been able to fill up the stadium every game. Even during the sugar bowl year, UH wasn’t able to fill the stadium. It doesn’t matter who the coach may be, UH will never be able to fill the stadium game after game. Why? Hawaii fans only come out when the good times are rolling and sit idly during the bad times and starts calling for the HC to be fired.

    June Jones at one point during his stay in Hawaii had a disappointing season and many Hawaii fans were quick to come out and have his head. I bet some of those fans are the same ones who called for Coach Mack’s head.

    The problem with attendance starts with the fans. Good or bad season, get your okole in the stadium and support the student athletes (unless there are circumstances beyond control not to be in the stadium).

  326. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 4:57 pm


    Good post… I hope these guys that were calling for his head have a viable option for Mack’s replacement…

    However with Ferd and Reardon, they’ll probably come up with the same moronic candidates of Norm Chow, June Jones and Cal Lee…

    Next season’s team will be a true representative of a coach Mack team.

    Mack may not have been the sharpest knife in the drawer but he surrounded himself with a great mixture of experience and potential… This year was marred by injuries and fumbles.

  327. primo123 December 5, 2011 4:59 pm

    Coach Mack is the nicest kindest guy. Fans gave up on the team.

    If we’d have 40k average in the stands…..even at 6-7, he’d still be here.

    Only got the fans to blame.

    All you naysayers and frontrunner……look in the mirror……you are the cause.

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  329. Slugger December 5, 2011 5:01 pm

    Sorry that Coach Mack couldn’t stay to see how his recruits would do next year. This is a football “business” decision. I think he did a decent job. Not all seasons can be winning seasons if you don’t have the bucks behind the program. Lots of players were injured this year; can’t play great games if you are lacking experience on the field. I really loved Mack’s support of his players and getting them through school, after all, this is a COLLEGE team.

    Na Koa is trying to get to a membership goal of 1,000 people. If you support UH football, put your money where your mouth is. Join Na Koa and give kala.

    Good luck to Coach Mack and his family in their transition. I hope some of the current coaches can remain on staff with whoever comes in as the next HC. Thank you, Coach Mack and all associated coaches and staff!

    I’ll be out there supporting the students.


  330. LizKauai December 5, 2011 5:02 pm

    Garret- exactly… unless something radically wonderful happens in the upper campus… athletics may be history…

  331. Kevin December 5, 2011 5:02 pm

    Very disappointed in the short-sightedness of some people here today.

    Relegated the UH football program and ultimately the REST of UH athletics to D2 or FCS status?

    Are any of you familiar with supply and demand? The concept of supply and demand is simple enough so I know you MUST know it, but are any of you aware it is an inadvertent give and take “relationship”.

    You will receive what you offer. You offer up sub FBS football, you will get SUBPAR results and that DOES NOT equate to a more “simpler” lifestyle FULL of freebies for the kiddies and old folks. As the financial constraints of being isolated in Hawaii are a burden enough, the FACT remains… the FACT that we have a DIVISION ONE university that competes on a DIVISION ONE level presents… ALWAYS presents the opportunity for growth and financial prosperity. It’s as simple as that.

    For those that admonish the UH administration on their short-sightedness… some people are completely fine being hypocrites to their own personal insecurities or selfishness.

    You all know it. You want better, the people want better, we all deserve a division one program. It IS all we know.

  332. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 5:03 pm

    Change is a strange thing,

    It cannot be denied.

    It can help you find yourself

    Or make you lose your pride

  333. primo123 December 5, 2011 5:03 pm

    Dont blame Ferd and Reardon….they only trying to do their jobs and sell papers…business is down bytheway….and if nobody reads their stuff, they dont have jobs.

    Hey, same as UH football…..if nobody shows up….they wont have jobs either…….

    ya think?

  334. LizKauai December 5, 2011 5:04 pm

    Yup, Slugger, for us, it is all about the “kids”.


    GO *.BOWS!

  335. primo123 December 5, 2011 5:05 pm

    if they relegate UH football to D2 or lower status…..they might as well play the games at Roosevelt HS…….you might have a full crowd there….but I seriously doubt it.

  336. BowsForever December 5, 2011 5:06 pm

    Coach Mack’s contract extension basically came down to one game. It’s unfortunate given the several chances throughout the season to have gotten that one extra win, but that’s just how it went down.

    The timing’s pretty awful. Rebuilding right when we’re about to head to the MWC (which, granted, is looking more and more like the WAC from a few years ago).

    Best of luck to you, Coach.

  337. A.M. December 5, 2011 5:08 pm

    Coach Mac is a good man and coach. For many, you don’t know or appreciate what you really had until it is gone.

  338. Jason December 5, 2011 5:09 pm

    The level of delusion here is unreal.

    Yes, it’s the fans fault because we chose not to support a coach who could not win a bowl game.

    Yes, it’s my fault for bailing on a team that couldn’t even go 500 in a terrible WAC conference.

    Get real. I’m just glad the adults in admin have a bigger perspective them some of the people on this blog.

  339. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 5:09 pm

    I still don’t know how Mack won a WAC championship last year and forced to resign this year. Just curious how many coaches at Hawaii have won the WAC and had a 10 win season? People, realize this isn’t LSU or Alabama. We aren’t going to have 10 win seasons EVERY YEAR…

    What kills me is that he got fired because of expectations of the team this year… The only reason why they had high expectations was because of Mack’s 10-4 record last year…

    Sorry for posting so much… I’m just pissed that the “hater fans” won on this…

  340. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 5:11 pm


    The fact that you “bailed on the team” makes you a bandwagon fan… Not a true fan…

  341. BleedGreen808 December 5, 2011 5:14 pm

    Always backin McMackin!

  342. rich2176 December 5, 2011 5:14 pm

    Job posting mentions academic achievement/progress three times. Also states the candidate must be able to work with assigned assistant coaches. That’s gonna be a deal breaker for any experienced coach who wants to bring his posse with him.

  343. Jason December 5, 2011 5:15 pm

    Mr. WarriorNY,

    The “hater fans” did not win today. The program won. The state of Hawaii won.

    And yes, I am a bandwagon fan. But guess what? That’s what this program needs. Because clearly, there isn’t enough “true fans” out there to support the program. If there were, then there would have been more then 21,000 people at the stadium for the game against Tulane.

    This whole concept of “true fan” and supporting the team win or lose is just simply not possible based on the economics of this island. We don’t have enough people who are willing to go to every game win or lose.

  344. FattyMcButterpants December 5, 2011 5:18 pm

    McMackin is the football version of Bob Nash. Great guy, caring guy, great assistant, but average as head coaches. It would be nice to get a young up and coming coach in the mold of what Stanford has in David Shaw. Maybe Brian Norwood. He has the pedigree, personality and understanding of Hawaii.

  345. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2011 5:19 pm

    Brian Norwood has a LOT of experience.

    currently assistant Head Coach at Baylor.

    mebbe he should apply.

  346. duffer December 5, 2011 5:21 pm

    Where were the assistant coaches in this retirement? You’d think they would have been supporting Coach Mack.

    They were just as responsible for the 6-7 record as they were when we went 10-3.

  347. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 5:21 pm

    Mr. Jason,

    You think Hawaii needs bandwagon fans…

    When things aren’t going well, the bandwagon fans disappear… That hurts the program… That hurts the state of Hawaii…

    I think your argument that true fans cannot exist because we’re located on an island is absolutely ridiculous…

  348. ai-eee-soos December 5, 2011 5:23 pm

    posting Brian Norwood’s Baylor profile –

    his son is playing in the NFL.

  349. ugg on clearance December 5, 2011 5:24 pm

    I cannot thank you enough for the article.Much thanks again. Fantastic.

  350. AlaWai December 5, 2011 5:24 pm

    Warrior Post.

    London Sapolu

    I would like to thank coach Mac for everything these past two years I have been in Hawaii. You gave a Junior College transfer a chance to play football at the highest collegiate level when no one else would. Not only did you give me my shot to play football but you gave me my opportunity to have a college education and a chance receive my degree. You are by far the most kind hearted man that has ever coached me. People from the outside will never understand what goes on in the WARRIOR family. You just let go of the only person who would fight for players from Hawaii and would give a scholarship to walk on/local boys.(Bryant Moniz,Corey Paredes,Richard Torres,Royce Pollard) I would have to say he made great decisions. Much Love to the McMackin and to the underclassmen, keep your heads up.

  351. Derek December 5, 2011 5:26 pm

    You have to wonder what if Mack did not retire or resign. What would the “management team” would have done? Now, we’ll never know because Mack made the decision for them. To Mack’s credit, I think he knew things weren’t going well. The knew the attendance was down, and he knows we gotta win. I also think he felt the pressure. That’s human nature.

    He said he’s retiring for now, meaning he’ll surface someplace else soon enough. Good luck to him in the future.

  352. funny December 5, 2011 5:28 pm

    It is pretty hilarious reading the whining and foot stamping going on right now. Blaming “hater” fans and opinion columnists is just downright immature. Those who portray themselves as the positive posters on this blog are acting rather nasty. I imagine that it is easy to be positive when things go your way but it seems that positivity goes out the window when others offer a differing opinion or decisions are made that you do not agree with.

    It is the AD’s job to find a new coach, not yours, mine of the media. While the buck stopped with Mack regarding team performance, it stops with JD in regards to the HC position. While players feelings are important, it is fan support that ultimately provides an avenue for their scholarship funded education and their facilities. While many may not like it, that support was waning due to the lack of fan confidence in the former HC.

  353. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 5:28 pm

    Hawaii needs fans that are willing to pay to watch football. Bandwagon, chorusboat, accapellazamboni…Whatever you want to call them, we need them if they going to pay to play.

    It’s nice to want to have an ideal fan who is willing to go no matter what, but reality dictates that UHAD welcomes them all.

  354. AlaWai December 5, 2011 5:28 pm

    Warrior Post

    Miah Ostrowski

    Would just like to thank Coach Mac for giving me the opportunity to be a Warrior… Great man that always stood up for his players no matter the situation.. Great coach that made all the right moves.. Much Respect to you Coach!!

  355. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 5:28 pm

    Re #344

    I don’t know if “fault” is the right word, but clearly the REASON Mack “retired” is because he lost the support of too much of the fan base. Too many people were jumping ship. Too many people were staying home. So, in that sense, this move was CLEARLY made to appease the fans who wanted Mack fired. So to those guys I say this: YOU guys wanted Mack gone and you got it, so YOU guys better support the team next year. Will you?

  356. Stretch December 5, 2011 5:31 pm

    People wondering why Mack “retired”?? Having him retire allows UH and Mack to highlight the positives he was able to accomplish. If he was fired, that press conference would have been to justify the firing with negative stuff. It was going to happen and everyone saves face….

  357. XKamaaina December 5, 2011 5:35 pm

    Mahalo Coach Mack! No one can question your love for UH and the team, a person of lesser character would have taken the full $1.1M and forced an ugly firing. We didn’t get the results we wanted in the W/L column, but you always stood by the players and tried to represent the 808 state. You’ll always be welcome in the Warrior ohana.

  358. Jason December 5, 2011 5:35 pm

    Just wanted to say that the above Jason is a different Jason from me (everyone’s favorite evil math teacher).

    I wish Coach Mack the best, and I’m looking forward to hearing about the future …

  359. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 5:36 pm


    I understand and respect your point…

  360. Stretch December 5, 2011 5:36 pm

    There is no doubt that Mack was a great guy and took great care of the players. Those are great qualities to have as a coach. BUT, those qualities don’t necessarily translate to an effective HEAD coach.

  361. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 5:38 pm


    Thanks for verifying that, Jason, but those of us who know you and what you are about could tell straightaway. That other guy is wearing a hockey mask, no doubt.

  362. Redondowarrior December 5, 2011 5:38 pm

    I think hiring a new coach is the right move for UH. I believe that Mack had done as good as he could do. I want UH to be the best that they can be. Are there better coaches out there, I believe there are. If that makes me a hater then, I’m a hater. Fans calling other fans haters, because they want what they believe is the best for UH, now who’s the hater.

  363. Dan-O December 5, 2011 5:40 pm

    Bandwagon fans are good for attendance figures only….cause when the going gets tough, they’ll never be around physically, emotionally and spiritually for those that need it most; THE TEAM!

  364. WarriorMojo December 5, 2011 5:41 pm

    Re #368

    Call yourself whatever you want. Labels are cages.

    WILL you show up next year? WILL you support the team?

  365. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 5:41 pm


    You’re saying the “opinion columnists” can write whatever negative opinions they want but when we want to write a negative comment on these same columnist, we are immature… Um… That doesn’t make any sense….

  366. d1shima December 5, 2011 5:43 pm

    Best post this afternoon:


    This is Mrs. Momo. I gave the recipe for mochi-making to your mainland friend. I realize I forgot to mention that Pam or some such spray needs to be put in the bottom of the glass tube pan. Could you pass on that info. Thanks.

  367. d1shima December 5, 2011 5:47 pm

    Best wishes to Mack and his Ohana.

    Mahalo for running a clean program.

    Mahalo for making a clean departure.

  368. d1shima December 5, 2011 5:48 pm

    Who needs some Pam for their posts?

  369. wafan December 5, 2011 5:52 pm

    Good evening Warrior fans (true or bandwagon)!!!

  370. AlaWai December 5, 2011 5:52 pm

    Dan-O: and importantly, Financially. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme not how can I help the team.

  371. Capitolist/WassupDoc December 5, 2011 5:54 pm

    Mahalo Jason364 for clarifying that you did not make the #344 statement. I was about to post a query as to who this person really is when I read your response.

    Although I have never played football, let alone coached it, I did set out about eight years ago to learn the sport and what needs to be done to win consistently. The upgrades in television coverage allowed me to understand its complexity. What I continue to find unbelievable is the willingness to be physically attacked again & again & again.

    According to sources at UH, there will a measured but active search for a new coach. As for the rest of the coaching staff, some will move on, some will apply to stay, some will retire, and some will be ignored.

    Mahalo to Stephen Tsai for keeping us up to speed.

    Remember that the SWEET SIXTEEN/ELITE EIGHT will be playing this weekend – including Na Wahine. Getchertixnow and Rock The Stan.

  372. Redondowarrior December 5, 2011 5:56 pm

    #371 My belief that we need a new coach labeled me a hater by other posters.

  373. Ed. December 5, 2011 5:56 pm

    Coach Mac is a gracious and honorable man that will truly be missed. He may not have been the best head coach for Hawaii as far as wins and loses, but he was kid for our state and warrior family. I for one will miss his genuine nature. Lol coach Mac !!

  374. wafan December 5, 2011 5:57 pm

    Most tumultuous day. Hopefully the change ends satisfactorily for the players, community and university.

  375. wafan December 5, 2011 6:01 pm

    Labels. Does it matter what you call yourself or what others have called you? Just be there with your money in hand to purchase season tickets when they go on sale! The team needs your help and support.

  376. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 6:01 pm


    I second..

  377. hillmok December 5, 2011 6:02 pm

    The bottom lin is the bottom line 1.1 million is way too much for a .500 coach. No matter who we get 500K s more affordable to go .500

  378. wafan December 5, 2011 6:02 pm

    Looks like Mr. Tsai will depress the button and lock the doors soon.

  379. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 6:04 pm


    Last Call?

  380. d1shima December 5, 2011 6:04 pm

    I’m a hater.

    I hate showing up at games and watching indecision, wrong decision, no decision p*ss away the effort of the players.

    I hate listening to nat’l TV talking heads speak about Hawaii as a “challenge” in the pre-game show and “just a step behind” in the post-game.

    I hate ruining the anticipation of a great end to a season by watching the players get put into bad positions and getting blown out to end their careers.

    I hate when “fans” who no remember the color of the Hawaii helmet before it was black, green, or white (it was gold) tell me I one bandwagon fan.

  381. Redondowarrior December 5, 2011 6:09 pm

    d1 – right wit you

  382. WarriorNY December 5, 2011 6:16 pm


    You are NOT and bandwagon fan… Not in the slightest… If you wanted Mack gone, that’s fine. It’s your opinion, I have no problem with that. You are not a hater. I get that.. if you have watched every game, despite your negative opinions towards the staff, I respect that. I see you on here everyday. I know you follow this team and follow it as closely as I do…

    However, if you were a fan that only shows up when the team is winning… There is no other word for you but bandwagon fan… People who were calling for Mack’s firing that actually still supported the team I have a lot more respect for, then people who were just waiting for Mack to fail to jump on him…

  383. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 6:18 pm

    For turnstile count not having per pay view when we join the MWC might be a blessing to have more people in the stadium. People who are fans from years past although older may make the effort to attend although there may be some health issues.

    Having a stadium fan base is not created only by winning. It is cultivating the fans yearly generation after generation. I believe you need to promote parents to bring their young children to the game. Need to make if affordable in today’s cost of living standards. As they say the future is the children.

    In addition the players need to go out to the schools and help promote their program. The university should designate 10 elementary school student body be able to attend a game every week of the season. Some of these keiki(s) will become fans one day paying fans that is. The university and the stadium association need to give in order to get the return one day. When UH starts to garner the reputation as a winning and successful program this idea should continue because we humans do not live forever.

  384. Not an Expert December 5, 2011 6:21 pm


    Need to make it affordable due to the high cost of living here in Hawaii.

  385. PeteJek December 5, 2011 6:22 pm

    Mahalo Mack.

  386. jonj December 5, 2011 6:22 pm

    I hate when we loose our starting QB, 2 WR’s, 2 OL, for the season and we had Austin Hansen our Starting LT gone B4 the season started. And people expectations are still high?? get Realistic people!! Your still a hater and if u dont go to the game and only come out when the going is good and dig out when its bad…. your a bandwagon fan! FYI his only 2 seasons with no bowl game he LOST his STARTING QB. BTW 2009 Bryant Moniz thrown in to action due to injuires… 2010 bryant Moniz takes us 10-4… 2011 david graves thrown into action due to injuries… 2012???? looks like we could have had another good one… especially with all the young players getting action this year!

  387. gmahoney December 5, 2011 6:24 pm

    D1, you are not a hater.

    Haters don’t go to the games, and sit in the midst of the enemy and support their team. Haters will find something wrong, even if they win. They forget that the student athletes they call slow and stupid are someone’s son, brother, cousin.

    I respect your opinion that a coaching change needed to be made but I don’t agree with it.

    Hey, I’ll see you and your prettier half next year in the N Endzone!

  388. A-House December 5, 2011 6:26 pm


    funny that you mention it, but someone posted that in the NCAA office with MVB championship placques, it has Hawaii as the “national champs” – was it 1996 or 1997?

    if that’s the case, the NCAA should have the alas to go back and rescind their decision and make UH the Offical MVB champs – have the moral courage to do so!!!!!!

  389. 808Bowler December 5, 2011 6:27 pm

    Boy o boy wat have hawaii got its self into.

    Should be a intresting next couple if months.

    None the less GO WARRIORS!!!!#

    GO WAHINE!!!!!#

  390. eagle December 5, 2011 6:32 pm

    Late – Tommui — thanks for setting 302 straight …

    some will Never Understand the Concept of Giving, especially that rare version called “Giving it everything you’ve got … ” or at least everything you can … Mack is not only leaving it all on the field plus a bonus half a million (similar to the way JJ took pay less than half of what he was offered elsewhere), he’s still leaving it in the smart program changes (fighting for the players), trying to continue building something solid versus the ‘big-talk’ smoke and no follow-up band-aid scratch and dent programs built by many in the upper campus and most of the legislature …

    Similar Example: the APEC fix-up ‘overnight successes’ (EX: Ala Moana/Nimitz Gateway improvements were 30 year old nothing-much-happening projects until President Obama/Senator Inouye pumped Federal Dollars in … similar to how JJ got his own ‘financing’ for anything he was able to do (despite all roadblocks set up by “upper help”) …

    Yeah, it’s hard to please All or even Most of the people Most of the Time …

    especially from The Front of the Room with the bright lights on and visibility …

    Look at approval ratings … The President, The Legislature, The Governor, Your Cell Phone Company …

    The Boo Birds talk as if they think they would (or even already do) a better job …

    WAC Championships:

    – Coach Tomey (who i admire & respect, Winningest Coach for Two Programs including Arizona which he took to #1 in the Country) 0;

    – Bob Wagner 1;

    – J.Jones 2;

    – Mack 3 …

    Two Fired — Still Four of The Best Ever …

    Mahalo, Coach Mack (and Tomey, Wagner and Jones)

  391. oldie December 5, 2011 6:32 pm

    Class. . .I’m glad Coach Mack took the high road and “retired” with dignity. He could have taken his 1.1 million and no one could fault him for it. I believe Coach Mack did what he did because that’s what his heart told him to do. I believe he wants to leave on good terms with the football program, his players, and the public.

    If Coach Mack has any flaws, at least one is his listening to his heart and not his head. Every year we are left with many new starters because Coach Mack couldn’t get himself to start a younger player over a Senior. While other coaches would look toward solidifying the team’s future, Coach Mack showed his loyalty to his players.

    Aloha, Coach Mack. Thanks for all you’ve done.

  392. obachan December 5, 2011 6:35 pm

    Best wishes to coach Mac

    I think the UH admin would be wise to proceed in the same way that they did in hiring basketball coach Arnold–someone with strong recruiting skills and connections as the ability or inability to recruit is usually the bottom line

  393. slenzi December 5, 2011 6:37 pm

    Godspeed to Coach Mac. Looking at salaries around the NCAA, UH may have to pay at least what Mac was getting to land someone with the skill, heart and soul to lead our Warriors in our island culture.

  394. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 6:38 pm

    So far here are a few names that people have commented on as being Mack’s replacement.

    Pat Hill

    Dick Tomey

    Rick Neuheisel

    Jack Del Rio

    Mike Stoops

    Jim Tressel

    Tommy Turberville

    Bill Cowher

    Gene Stallings

    I would like to add a few of my own. Mike Holmgren, Jon Gruden, Pete Carroll, Jim Mora, Mike Ditka, Tony D’Amato, Jesus

  395. FriedRiceMoco December 5, 2011 6:39 pm

    392. I agree with a lot that you say. Cultivating generations of fans stands as a primary building block for fiscal health of the program. But we’re different. Because we are even on this blog shows we are fans.

    That being said, I differ on the pay per view. Truly it is a money grab for the Athletic Program that really needs it. However, if your household doesn’t have it, you’re not going to miss it. If the philosophy was at least show every away game for FREE as well as every locally produced Home game delayed (like they used to) for FREE, then you have names like Moniz, Graves, Ostrowski, Stutzman, Pollard, Hardy-Tuliau, Paredes, Brown, Torres, etc. being heard, every Saturday night for at least 13 weeks.

    Hawaii needs to have UH Football heroes. If fans are not exposed to the team, then they won’t know any better. That 7th grader that is home on a Sat. night to watch the game with his dad, or that 5th grader that wants to be Bryant Moniz during recess, that’s your potential season ticket holder. If they don’t have an easy, cheap, exposure to the team, then they’ll just play Call of duty on their X Box. Also, imagine Ojisan, Popo, and Tutu, getting jacked about Warrior Football?

  396. d1shima December 5, 2011 6:39 pm

    Jesus is busy now; he’s sending Vince Lombardi

  397. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 6:39 pm


  398. eagle December 5, 2011 6:48 pm

    Here’s Hoping we get Lucky or Fortunate …

    That Once Again AD J.Donovan can pull a Rabbit out of the Hat … and Find a Good-to-Great Coach (like Gib, and previously Shoji, Tomey, Trapasso, Coolen) whose willing to put out Top-Notch Effort and Results @ Cut-Rate Salary …

    so we don’t have a repeat of the Tomey-Wagner lesson (FVAppen) with the JJ-Mack successor …


    IWWTHM — That would be a great service — to track all the names thrown in … maybe we should start a list of why they would take the downgrade in Pay and Status to come here … [we got JJ, Mouse, Tomey, even Mack because this is a great place to “play” — do what you love, coaching, after you’ve already earned all you need for life …]

  399. Kevin December 5, 2011 6:52 pm

    We shouldn’t waste our time trying to prove our UH dedication to people on this blog or anywhere else. It has NOW gotten to the point where there is a division between the DENSE with holier-than-thou attitudes declaring themselves the end-all and be-all of what is a real UH supporter.

    If people are going to be ARROGANT, just at least embrace it and not try to hide behind the guise of something completely different.

    For us that pay for tickets and plop a few bucks for the program here and there and still believe that the program is BIGGER than and ONE individual the only thing that matters is that the program is getting the support.

    Seeing the program you support is a greater reward than having some other person pat you on the back giving you their stupid little “nod” of approval.

  400. Kevin December 5, 2011 6:54 pm


    Nevermind already… it’s like talking to a wall for some already.

  401. iwonderwhytheyhateme December 5, 2011 6:56 pm


    I like the idea, but it sounds a little bit like you want us to be the Arcadia or Ponds at Punaluu of the college football world.

  402. jonj December 5, 2011 6:56 pm

    Watching Monday night football and they keep mentioning how hard san diego has it due to all their injuries on such a talented team! I say fire their coach! lol… theres no excuse to loose! i guess the man cant draft

  403. AlaWai December 5, 2011 6:58 pm

    Would like to see Coach Mac retained as Assistant Athletic Director, Football Operations. His skill may not translate to the field, but his Aloha for the program would maintain the integrity of what he dreamed, or maybe having a winning football program with successful academic athletes is not possible.

  404. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 7:00 pm

    Wouldn’t be surprised if Mack ends up with Mike Leach or even JJ, if JJ moves to Arizona.

  405. admrvt December 5, 2011 7:06 pm

    IWWTH – re: #404. Off your list, the best bet is Jesus. At least he walks on water.

  406. Garret December 5, 2011 7:07 pm

    Watching Monday night football and they keep mentioning how hard san diego has it due to all their injuries on such a talented team! I say fire their coach! lol… theres no excuse to loose! i guess the man cant draft


    Both the Chargers’ head coach (Turner) and GM (Smith) *are* getting fired when this season is over. The Chargers are already investigating their replacements, with Bill Cowher already in discussions where he has told the Chargers what GM he wants if he takes their coaching job.

    But they aren’t just getting fired for what happened this season–there has been a steady decline in their results from past seasons…when there were no major injuries to point to. Going from winning playoff games to losing the first game to not making the playoffs to a LONG losing streak means the coach and GM know they are out of their jobs soon.

  407. Garret December 5, 2011 7:09 pm

    Would like to see Coach Mac retained as Assistant Athletic Director, Football Operations.</blockquote.

    Mack already has the 2 houses in Vegas that he plans to live in with his family after he leaves Hawaii.

  408. Chee! December 5, 2011 7:09 pm

    Like #409, #414

  409. Garret December 5, 2011 7:10 pm

    Would like to see Coach Mac retained as Assistant Athletic Director, Football Operations.

    Mack already has the 2 houses in Vegas that he plans to live in with his family after he leaves Hawaii. I don’t think he’d want to stick around for a non-coaching position…and I don’t think that UH can afford to pay another Assistant AD salary.

  410. NYUH December 5, 2011 7:15 pm

    I really like Coach Mack but you have to protect the Hawaii Bowl. He failed to win one and lost two chances to get in. The blowout from Tulsa after the 10-4 season was unforgivable. He had to get in. We were up at halftime against BYU and we blew it – at home. I thought they should have renewed after LT. But they didn’t and now we have to move on. All the best to the coach and his family!

  411. Really? December 5, 2011 7:18 pm

    You want to start getting a young excited fan base concerning UH football? Get the damn games off of pay per view and broadcast into every home on this island for FREE. You should hear the UH games booming out of every house on the islands at gametime. This is how you reach new fans, how you get the keiki excited about being Warriors. Pay per view is a crime when tagged onto a public University. We have a whole generation who have never watched UH at home with their Uncles and Aunties grinding and rooting on the Warriors and should be. Get off your ass Donovan and do the right thing. That would be a nice start.

  412. Eric December 5, 2011 7:18 pm

    November 17th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

    The word from Lower Campus Road is if Hawaii doesn’t qualify for the bowl, Coach Mac is fired right after the BYU game, If Hawaii loses the bowl game, Coach Mac is fired the next day.

    Sometimes the reporters that people chastise know exactly about what’s going on at UH.

  413. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 7:25 pm

    JJ may have spoiled the fans… if we don’t win 4 of the first five games, we don’t pack the house. We don’t pack the house, we need to fire the coach. Simple as that. So, maybe we should just stay in the WAC and book easy games for our OOC schedule. Like HF did.

  414. el burro sabio December 5, 2011 7:26 pm

    I thought roy-san was banned from here.

    Since so many people are pulling the names of coaches out of their butts, I will get with the program – I pull out Brian Cabral. I know not much about him except he played at St. Louis and recruits away several local kids each year. What are the pros or cons about him, aside from that he may not want to come home?

  415. Redondowarrior December 5, 2011 7:26 pm

    Will there be an active search or are they only looking at applicants?

  416. madeinhawaii December 5, 2011 7:30 pm

    You mean like the yellow pages and google? I think UH has a Yahoo who uses BING-oh… and when they’ve exhausted their search, they’ll ask Alibaba.

  417. cocobean December 5, 2011 7:34 pm

    Hope this coaching change isn’t like my previous diets. Positive results in the short term but after a while back to sqaure one and in a couple instances worst.

    My health adviser always tells me the only way to maintain a healthy weight is to change my life style. To stay away from those fad diets. To eat balanced meals and exercise.

    Hope JD and his crew realize that changing coaches and continuing business as usual is not a solution. Same as going on the latest fad diet with the same yo-yo result. Back to square one…or worst.

  418. BigHiloFan2 December 5, 2011 7:38 pm

    I saw this yesterday and its worth reposting.

    Thank you coach Mac for taking the reigns as a tsunami was building. JJ ran a terrific double reverse and we were left scrambling. Thanks for stepping in and stablizing those rough seas. A different twist could have you pondering a DC position at ASU…for a similar salary. What happens next happens. If you should be on the sidelines next year, I know we will be successful. If you should be absent, I know we will be successful. We are the aloha state and I have much aloha for you. Thank you for taking care of our sons.

    okay Jim Donovan. Now is your chance to make like Coach Mack. The smaller print output in the Hawaii Tribune Herald for UH Football this past season, for instance. We can work on that. If you want all Hawaii to stand behind UH Football, you gotta promote the media.


    Coach McMackin.

    Again, thank you for all you did for the State of Hawaii. You were Johnny on the spot, when we felt dispair and the feeling of holding a empty bag. Thank you.

  419. Ipu Man December 5, 2011 7:40 pm

    Actually, Jim Donovan may be one of the best candidates…

    He could wear two hats like the AD at Reno…

  420. papajoe2 December 5, 2011 7:47 pm

    Does anybody know who Jim Donvan’s hires were and how they are doing?

  421. cocobean December 5, 2011 7:53 pm

    JD is not a boat rocker. A good company man in the mode of Hugh.

    Wish he would set goals such as a new 10k seat on campus arena and achieve it.

    Simpler goals might be improved workout faicilties or updatesd locker rooms.

    Something out of this world, an indoor practice facility, if accomplished would bear his name.

    JD at least set a goal of 28K FB season tickets and accomplish it.

  422. al December 5, 2011 7:54 pm

    425…i see you watched the kitv news tonight, too.

  423. el burro sabio December 5, 2011 8:00 pm

    JD is going to hire a Japanese woman to coach football?

  424. cocobean December 5, 2011 8:03 pm

    JD has input but no decision making power on the football HC.

  425. Derek December 5, 2011 8:03 pm

    Brian Norwood would be an interesting candidate if he applies. He’s definitely qualified. There’s another coach who is definitely qualified, but I won’t mention his name. The only thing I will say is that this person is a former Super Bowl Champion.

    #404 Humorous list. Tuberville still at Texas Tech unless he got canned recently. You can add the list of Gary Barnett, and Dan Hawkins too. Also available “they are what we think they are” Dennis Green, Herm Willingham, and “I know it all” Skip Bayless.

    Serious list, Adrian Klemm (SMU), Joe Seumalo (Oregon State), Jeff Ulbrich (Seattle Seahawks). Also, Blane Gaison (Kamehameha), Jesse Sapolu. All of these guys could be assistant coaches who would do a nice job.

  426. Eric December 5, 2011 8:03 pm

    Wahine Soccer did pretty good this year (3rd in the WAC regular season). Wahine BB not so good. Only connection is both are women, have Japanese last names and under 5’7 ft. Charlie Wade is also JD’s hire. This is a defining year for him as well as Wilton’s stud recruits Umlauf and Walker have graduated.

  427. FriedRiceMoco December 5, 2011 8:04 pm

    440 your comment is sad.

  428. kev-1 December 5, 2011 8:05 pm

    People are just getting stupid already. A coach got shown the door, or “retired” and now people are predicting the end of UH athletics all together? Ridiculous! Drop down to D-1? Just plain silly.

    I am human and felt just as bad as anyone else did for Coach Mack the man. But reality of the situation, he didn’t get the job done. If the AD let it continue for that amount of money, he wouldn’t be doing his job.

    Now everyone else who wanted a change is labeled a “hater” or “moron” or whatever else names some of you (as kevin said) “holier than thou” people choose to throw out. Running a football program is about money, wins and losses, and graduating students. Mack made progress in one of those areas and has caused steps back in the other two.

    I feel for Mack the MAN, and wish him well. I am excited about a new coach, provided the UH make the right decision.

  429. AlaWai December 5, 2011 8:05 pm

    Clowns Nose: Why would a top notch athlete + student choose Hawaii when they get ragged on for underperforming by bloggers and playing in front of a half empty stadium?

    UH should go after the same type of baller from cities like ours that don’t support their local university.

  430. kev-1 December 5, 2011 8:09 pm

    And as for the players comments that a poster wants to throw at everyone who wanted Mack out . . . where were those before it happened? I am glad they support their coach. That is what we should all expect. Players don’t want to lose a coach who they have grown attached to, respect, and admire.

  431. kev-1 December 5, 2011 8:11 pm

    If a football player can’t take random fan bantor from a blog, they aren’t tough enough to play the game.

  432. papajoe2 December 5, 2011 8:12 pm

    Wasn’t there a coach from the water polo team or swim team?

  433. el burro sabio December 5, 2011 8:15 pm


    So what’s your point?

  434. gmahoney December 5, 2011 8:17 pm

    Hey, Clown. STFU!

    Translation: Stephen Tsai Fans Unite!

  435. AlaWai December 5, 2011 8:18 pm

    Dave Shoji seems to have the recruiting formula down. The WVB fans are totally committed.

    Let’s ask him.

  436. A-TEAM December 5, 2011 8:29 pm

    Coach Mac-

    We will forever be grateful to you for providing the dream of a young boy’s lifetime to become a U of H Warrior. Kody will continue living his dream and his passion for playing the game of Football with thoughts of you. Mahalo nui loa

  437. cocobean December 5, 2011 8:32 pm Clownsnose, thought you changed.

  438. FriedRiceMoco December 5, 2011 8:41 pm

    If those redshirts could have contributed he would have played them. Fool – he get’s paid to win.

  439. Bryson December 5, 2011 8:46 pm

    My only hope now is that none of these talented young Players decide to transfer…but what’s done is done and now we will wait and see what will become of the program…

  440. Bryson December 5, 2011 8:48 pm

    465#:So what your saying is Trevor Davis would have the same grasp of the offense in the beginning of the season as he did when he got the chance to start…

  441. 808 December 5, 2011 8:52 pm

    how about brian cabral?

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