McMackin retires as UH head coach

1st

3rd

he’s out……..

why meet with the coaches first………….to tell them he’s out………….then meet with players ….

otherwise, if he was still in…he’d meet with all of them at the same time to tell them he’s renewed.

God Bless Coach Mack…..he will land on his feet somewhere. He’s one of the good guys.

If meetings about the offseason program were not held, it seems like he will be out. He’ll coach somewhere. He is a good DC. IF of course that is what happens. Speculation still.

Al – I got your point on the last post in that June took the program from the outhouse to the penthouse. All I was doing was comparing the job both coaches have done the past 4 years taking over a new team.

i would imagine one or two staffers will be kept on to maintain some kind of continuity as well as to retain the few commits that we have.

rich2176…got ya on that one.

i was looking forward to sitting next to you at the sjsu game.

well, regardless, i hope you make it to a game next year.

interim coach perhaps…

Do you think Vili is serious??? Or just being stupid? That would be a very bad decision in my opinion.

Whatever the decision, I hope the fans will still be supportive. Fan base is quite polarized at the moment. Need to come out with a solid decision. If Coach Mack is kept, what does he need to do to change directions? If released, what is the UHAD’s planned timeline? Need substantive info to rally behind, not vague statements.

Maybe tuioti as interim coach.

#22 good point, I agree unless his contarct stipulates otherwise.

ESPN radio reporting a decision has been made and a announcement will be made this afternoon.

no not tuioti…but, i’d keep him if i were the next guy in.

it’ll probably be miano as the interim hc until the new hire is in place. hopefully fast tracked in.

ST,

So are you saying Mcmackin will be retained being that those coaches are still out recruiting?

Mack’s strengths may ultimately be his downfall…

APR is high so UH can take risks

Defense is still in good shape and can be patched with a few JC recruits

QBs we got a ton and there is enough difference in talent to run just about any offense

RBs .. we got at least two good ones and a few promising ones

Receivers, getting better, lots of promise… and some good ones in the wings…

O-line ecruits … the redshirts and returners look very promising…

The cupboards are pretty well stocked and the program is in good standing academically, these are players that might attract a number of coaches.

differences between jj’s initial season and macks?

jj brought in a new offense. mack inherited the same offense. kinda no brainer for mack. he didn’t improve the product.

here is my guess for the meetings. mack will announce he is stepping down as hc and take over special teams. tomey will be hc. 😆

#37 Hope not…

lizk…are we reading the same material?

Lizk….are we in the same world???

I respect what Coach Mac stands for and I am sorry to see him leave but in my opinion it is the only move. Extending him isnt the answer and you can’t have a head coach out there with a year left on his contract. I wish him luck in his future endevaors. Hope they keep Tutoli on staff

131.PolyMom:

December 5th, 2011 at 9:29 am

@Kekoa, no worries had a little turkey and salad. But made a big plate of that Ono bread pudding. I don’t know how we would do this, but I felt bad for the boys with no ohana there last night. Got to figure out how to get a parent there for all the boys. Not like the old days when the players had host parents on the island. Heck some of the former players from those days are still so close to their host parents.

Poly Mom ~ One word solution to including the Ohana. *Video* already in use in the room…so just stream it over the net to the folks at home. The boys can continue to give thanks at the podium…to the folks who really matter.

Standing next to Robert Kekaula…I was like a little tiny person. He always cracks me up with his great sense of humor. Team meeting this morning for the boys at eight. But now they really got to hit the books.

Poly Mom ~ That was the buzz heard on the escalator. RK emphasized the team meeting a 2nd time.

Have a safe and pleasant trip home to LaLa Land. The fire buzz will be driving us all crazy for the next few weeks I’m afraid.

If Coach is not HC anymore, I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of the current staff (like Aranda & Shaw) packing for greener pastures. (Maybe that’s why Aranda was on the phone at the banquet?)

If they are going interim, it would be better to have Tomey. He has the HC mentality and knows how to organize. If interim means, go get the HC in waiting for the following year, get that OC from Oregon letting him know that year one will be your settling in and year two will be yours.

I don’t think you could do that scenario of an interim with Miano as the lead. Tomey does not want to be “Joe Pa” and coach until he is 85. He wants to help and enjoy the work. Miano may want to rise to HC one day and I do not believe it should be with the UH. I don’t see that as being a good choice.

I’m hoping JD and the brain trust already had a contingency plan in place. I dont see the logic in hiring an “interim” coach. That will kill recruiting just as much as not having a coach. Who is going to commit to a school that doesnt even know who their head coach will be?

But a meeting with coaches first, then players can’t be good for Mack. I’m sure he will make an announcement. BUT is UH making one????

For a maximum $650K… if UH cannot find someone with better promise than Coach Mack.. what then? Are we downgrading?

what’s to lose if you allow Coach Mack to burn his final year or use an “interim” HC for 2012?

recruiting? if a current coach is selected for 2013, will that change the minds of recurits? Will this allow players, the young ones, to transfer now or in 2012 without having to sit out a year? does this mean that all 2012 committed recruits are now free to go where ever?

if Coach Mack is allowed to finish his 5th year and has an excellent record at mid-year, UH will change their mind and grant an extension?

Do I think Coach mack is a very good HC? No. Does he have to work on becoming a better HC? Absolutely! so does every HC in college football!!!! perhaps at age 67 or 68, it’s time to call it quits and let some one else take all the flack.

it would be a sad day for UH if they select a new HC that was fired – go find a young, energetic coach who has exhibited leadership, knows the game, offensve and defense, and willing to build a program.

So, no one remembers Oregon State’s DC Mark Banker when he was an assistant here at UH?

I for one may have suport concerns for UH football if Tomey is named interim HC.

after all, he did not support UH in 2007 – for whatever reason, he never voted UH to be in the top 25 teams.

many will disagree, but that is your right to do so. thus, allow me to have mine!!

I am mystified by all the suggestions that a guy who has a done deal contract to receive $1.1M in the coming year, whether he spends that year here or in the desert, is gonna be inclined to “renegotiate” anything.

i dont think UH can compete with the mainland schools for our big studs that wanna play at more presitgious schools with history and limelight.

only way we can compete is if we imploy a gimmick type offense. ie. run option, ie. navy, airforce, army. like those teams, we simply cannot get the type of studs to run anything else.

maybe the pistol…………

al/MattyBoy,

Come on. Some people see the glass half full, others see a potential venue for a great pool party! 😉

PRAYING FOR THE WARRIORS, THE PLAYERS, THE COACHES AND THE ADMINISTRATION

OD,

Nevah know you was KS alum.

😉

j/k

My friends was joking they tomey would take over. God I hope not.

No it don’t Old Diver, take any coach fired this week and count up how many assistants stay on staff for the next guy. It only happens if they worked together sometime back in the past on staffs. We have a staff that should be Unionized.

an interim hc will be able to keep things afloat as well as possible UNTIL the new coach is selected. this is not something permanent or a prolonged assignment.

my guess is that it will be miano for interim. he could apply for the “job”.

running the program is more than x’s and o’s. somebody needs to adminster the office.

i am confident that we will have a new coach before the end of the year.

i am more curious as to who conducts the press conference.

that will determine who else stays and who else leaves. it could be more than the hc and his asst’s.

hopefully, this time we aren’t in a panic attack mode to hire a coach.

#75:

The staff is unionized…they’re all HGEA members, IIRC – even the HC.

So are we done with the RnS? Do we move on to something else?

Wonder wat Jeff Reinbold doing? Is he still at smu? Ex Nfl Europe coach. jus wondering.

If we are able to recruit and sign offensive lineman like Wisconsin, then yes, we should no longer utilize the R&S.

#75 If by “Unionized” you’re inferring they could not be terminated when the HC is terminated, I would then say, you’d have an almost impossible task of getting a new HC to come knowing that he cannot infuse his philosophy with his team of assistants, he picked and was stuck with his predecessors or his predecessors staff.

I can tell you that a Ken N. from Navy would not come if he was saddled with a R&S staff and his philosophy was more triple option.

#71

Heh!

d1shima,

I should have said Rough Riders. In three years there we had 1 win and 1 tie. Tough going when you have a steady diet of Onosai Tanuvasa’s and Arnold Morgado’s.

what happened in Yellow L?

2:00pm

Very interesting…but is UH really going to have Miano be an interim coach for a year or just until a permanent replacement is hired? How will the team recruit if recruits don’t know who the head coach will be in a year and don’t know whether or not they will fit whatever system UH will use then?

I know its rude to ask but wats the age variance in here? Me I’m 33.

if miano is the interim….then he’ll probably keep the system the same.

that 5star cb might still come if miano is around. i wonder how much that played into it.

is the problem coach mack? the offense? the defense? the special teams? a. b. or all of the above?

keep all…just change the coach and see how it goes.

why miano? why not tomey?

questions questions…..soon to have answers by 330pm or so.

Personally, I think Rich Miano is a very good coach and a good recruiter. If I am mistaken I think Miano was the one who had the first contact with Colt Brennan to try to consider coming to Hawaii and recommended him to June Jones. Miano also has worked tirelessly with the walk on program, the UH NFL Pro Day, and the speed and quickness program. He is always accessible and is straight with people. He has developed some excellent defensive backs, including Mana Silva, Myron Newberry, Ryan Mouton, Nate Jackson, and a host of others. If anything, he’s the epitome of a true Warrior, a walk-on from Kaiser, to scholarship player, 1st team All-WAC safety, and played in the NFL for 11 years. He has his blood, sweat, and tears in the Hawaii program. When he could have gone to work with June Jones at SMU he want to stay here because Hawaii is his home. That’s loyalty to the MAX in my book.

Is he Head Coach material? You never know until someone gets the job. Is he qualified, yes. Does he have a stake? Yes. Does he have sweat equity? A lot. The question we need to know is his coaching philosophy, his organizational and leadership skills, and how effective he will be in selecting and coaching his assistants. What is his offensive and defensive philosophy and special teams also. He not young and he’s not old, maybe just right!!!!!! And I think we can get it for a reasonable salary, say around $500 to $600 thousand. The “Management” team can decide to make the next coach “interim” to keep the continuity going and the recruiting process. Yes, I think Mack is done. You don’t talk to the staff then to the players to say he’s coming back. If he’s coming back, Donavan would just make an announcement that he’s coming back. Simple. No problem. He was going to get only 1 more year anyway. He wasn’t going to get an extension. It doesn’t make sense for that too because it is still uncertainty the following year and recruits are on the fence. Whatever it is, gotta hurry up because recruiting prospects are taking visits and making their decisions. Mike Pennel was never going to come here anyway in my opinion. Whoever is the new coach some assistants should be retained and some will leave. That’s what I think. IMO, Tony Tuioti is someone who has done a great job.

Was in orange on the 50 yard line. Man BYU talked alot of crap.

Bowler I just turned 22, Hhhhhmmmmmm(for the third time)

make Miano the interim. no problem. he earned it.

Yup answers coming soon.

McMackin has tentatively accepted the DC position at Washington State under Mike Leach.

Just saw this little tidbit on wikipedia:

Both of Hawaii’s WAC championships during former coach June Jones’ tenure at Hawaii came during both of McMackin’s two years as defensive coordinator for Hawaii.[5] That would be 1999 & 2007.

Here’s a little chart I put together showing year, record, points scored & allowed per game.

Points Per Game – Scored/Allowed

YEAR RECORD HAWAII  OPP 

1999 9-4 29.0  27.7 

2000 3-9 24.5  33.5 

2001 9-3 40.2  26.5 

2002 10-4 35.9  27.8 

2003 9-5 34.7  30.5 

2004 8-5 35.9  38.4 

2005 5-7 30.7  35.7 

2006 11-3 46.9  24.1 

2007 12-1 43.4  25.5 

2008 7-7 24.6  28.9 

2009 6-7 22.8  29.5 

2010 10-4 39.6  25.5 

2011 6-7 31.5 29.1

It’s interesting that the oppents were outscored this year, yet UH had a losing record.

tick tock….tick tock…tick tock……

808,

28 here.

Kate from 8 is a mean person.

kate from 8 is a bitch…..oops did i jus type that?

😯

Just informed that I have a meeting at 3pm!

….eh, maybe I going be da nex Coach! 😆

Rich,

You did make some good points in your post in the last blog–I just read your post and was about to respond when I realized there was a new blog up already! Some things to consider:

1. UH’s fans voted by not attending the games, with the turnstile count being really bad this season. That would indicate a huge loss of revenue next year in ticket sales.

SMU has had their attendance increase every year. They are still far below most other schools, but the bean counters understand how a situation where ticket revenue increases each year is quite different than one where the revenue is decreasing. The biggest demand for SMU tickets is in their luxury boxes, which bring in more money than many sections of the regular seats.

2. UH’s SOS was rated as the weakest D-IA schedule on some impartial sites. If we go by Sagarin, UH had the #112 hardest schedule while SMU had #75. Comparing schedules needs to also account for SOS.

3. The recruiting classes between the 2 schools have been quite different over the past 2 years. A factor this season was probably Mack’s contract, but that doesn’t explain last season. UH needs to do something to salvage this recruiting season–as ST mentioned earlier, UH needed to make a decision to extend Mack or go another direction.

Just letting Mack coach out the final year would have killed the recruiting class and made it very difficult for Mack or any other coach to overcome that in future years. However, I don’t see how an interim coach will solve the recruiting for this year unless UH hires the permanent coach before February.

Me, I’m 33, too. But for be able to breathe I bettah take 42.

rich2176, thanks to uc-davis.

Wonder if that post is real. Don’t think so.

In the absence of any HC/interim, can the AD take over all responsibilities and recruit, offer scholarships etc etc? Just curious.

Only coaches can recruit. An AD offering a scholarship would be violating NCAA rules.

I guess the only way around that would be for the AD to appoint himself the interim.

#140….lol….

Sheesh long line at yb…….don’t they know its the holidays and companies got to get there products Out.

Herd was a somber mood at the team meeting this morning.

Hawaii News Now breaking…

it’s over

norm chow is not in the picture…at all.

How the heck does an interim head coach help recruiting? I think it hurts recruiting. If you are a recruit, you would rather know who the long term new guy will be instead of the interim coach. Why would you commit to a school who is going to change coaches in a year. STUPID decision by UH if that is the path they take.

I am starting to get pissed, and all we know is speculation. I have a vested interest in this program succeeding, and this whole situation is bothering me.

And yeah, Kate Gosselin is a huge BIT__!!!

O well thats one way to get out of buy out clause.

interim doesn’t have to be for an extended time period. like al said, someone needs to be in control until a new hc is signed sealed and delivered.

Just kidding, I kinda do. But he will coach again somewhere I’m sure. He is a good defensive coordinater. Bet he ends up with JJ.

So does that mean Rich Miano will be the “interim” head coach?

BIK

if given the chance, i would date kate. 👿

If UH did not fire him and Coach Mack resigns as the news states, does UH still pay him $1.1million?

#158 . . . thanks AL, I needed that.

SA is now reporting the resignation.

Don’t think Norm Chow has UH on his mind anymore. Burned bridges when he applied for the job in 1995 thanks to Hugh Yoshida. Chow will probably finish out his coaching career at Utah where he took a major salary cut to coach at after leaving UCLA ($275,000 now compared to $640,000 at UCLA) and is content being where he is.

Mack is taking a buyout for less. Respectable.

I would not take seriously any comments made by any of the regulars here with regard to the future and Mac. After all, these are the same people who said Colt was a God and Mac was great. Miano should take the reins. If not him, then Cal Lee. If not him, then Tokuda from Leilehua. If not him, then some other local coach. That works for me.

Short-term interim designation does make sense because someone needs to be in charge now until a new head coach is hired. The walk-on tryouts are in 2 months or so, and coach Miano will definitely be in charge of that.

Buyouts for less than the full amount remaining on the contract is how many other schools have done it, so I’m guessing that the negotiations came up with a dollar amount that both sides could live with. I wish Coach Mack well in his next job or in his retirement in Vegas, whatever he decides to do now.

Great news. Now, the more important decision. The future. Do mess this up Hinshaw and Donovan.

GOD BLESS COACH MACK. We know where is HEART is at.

Breaking news: Ferd Lewis & Dave Reardon have requested and been accepted to be Co-Head Coaches for the upcoming year.

p.s. Just kidding.

This is a sad day for me. I liked coach Mack.

Coach Mack kept true to his only rule. Don’t embarrass the program. He is stepping down with class. Good luck.

#181

Lucky for us you put in the p.s.

Good luck to Coach Mack and the rest of the staff! Thank you for all the hard work.

Nah, S.T. might prefer to be Chancellor of Athletics.

who’s televising the press conference? it is 3pm, no presser

There was never a question about the man’s heart and intentions…best wishes to Coach Mack in the future.

Thanks to the entire staff for their time, energy and effort in giving us Warrior football.

Greg McMackin is a good man, the type that you would like as a neighbor and friend. But it’s a tough business which like any other business is dictated on the bottom by revenues versus costs. Unfortunately revenues have been dropping and will continue to drop unless a change was made. Meanwhile costs will increase next year. The next coach will need to bring hope and excitement in order for the fans to re-embrace the program. Meanwhile best wishes to Coach McMackin.

I guess rubbing salt in the wound is the new normal for some around here.

Mahalo, Coach. Best wishes to you and yours in the future.

I like Coach Mac. I’m very saddened that he’ll be leaving. Best wishes to him & his family – I’m sure he’ll do well wherever he goes.

mahalo to coach mack, god bless and god speed

GO WARRIORS

Rough for assistant coaches. Hope everything works out for them. All good guys!!!

Live stream from UH website. 330pm press conference.

http://hawaiiathletics.com/sports/2011/12/5/GEN_1205113225.aspx?id=325

Would be a gud staff souljah. But doubt all those guys would come here. Tuioti and Ulbrich as asst could happen. Don’t see Klemm coming. But who knows…..

i thought i saw….S TSAI is up for Women’s locker room monitor…..??….wtf!!

Good Luck to Coach Mack & Staffers (both staying — hired interim or by next coach — and leaving) …

Will be Watching and Enjoying Your Progress (assuredly) over the coming years … The successful ‘Alumni’ coaches & players are a source of Pride (recent & past) … No Doubt you’ll land on your feet and some even land full-speed runnin’

Aloha & Mahalo

Fans better be patient for the next few years. Competing in the MWC is going to be more difficult than the WAC.

When you look at our talent level in the three deeps you find some good starters but not many quality backups. The MWC might be a small stepup from the WAC but it is a step up.

We’ll need more good athletes to compete there.

If you thought LaTech, Utah State, Idaho and San Jse were difficult road trips, go back to the old WAC and check what our road record was at SDSU, Wyoming, Air Force and CSU. There were seasons we went Ofer the road.

Unless the new guy is someone currently on staff ( and I hope it’s not) there’s going to be a loss of continuity. New staff for the most part. New systems. The new guy will have to get the current players to buy in to whatever he’s selling and have some time to recruit the athletes that fit his systems.

Well, good luck, Coach Mack and ‘ohana. Mahalo for all you’ve done and tried to do! We will probably never find another as genuine and well-meaning as you. There were lots of great things begun by you and your staff in trying to reconnect with local high schools… with fans on the neighbor islands… in getting all seniors to graduate… etc. I hope these things continue.

I grew up with aloha, ahonui, lokahi, etc. I feel lots of cynicism now.

Any coach we have from this point forward better not have a losing record, no matter what. OC, DC, Special Teams, injuries, no excuse will be acceptable. If UH wants to win big with better recruits, we better lower our admissions standards to match those of the big money schools. It’s all about winning and money now, nothing else matters.

UH women’s volleyball, we think national championship again soon.

UH football, we think of winning and going to the Hawaii Bowl.

Will we ever think of winning a national championship in football. Slim and none based on the mindset of those in charge of the major decisions.

That’s what im saying too coco.

Looks like most of the team showed up to support Mack. What a contrast to Colt’s conference.

And yeah, Colt was god-like in many respects. You don’t agree?

I just had a visual that would give me nightmares – Pat Hill as the UH coach standing on the sidelines with a lei. But, I love his attitude – Anyone, anytime, anywhere!! That should be the Warriors mantra.

BCS will never let us win a national championship.

Mahalo coach! Best wishes

I remember when Bob Wagner was fired to head in a “new” direction. I remember the eloquent and erudite “philosopher” coach we brought in. I remember the promise of a WC offense and elevation to the “next level”. Be careful of what you wish for; it could come true.

Coach McMackin, mahalo for staying here when the invitation to SMU was on the table. Mahalo for being involved in the players lives especially academically. Thank you for being a good citizen of Hawai`i. Thank you for the recruits you have brought here to keep our program strong.

God Bless You and your family and find great success in your future endeavors.

no more commercials on this stream

http://hawaiiathletics.com/sports/2011/12/5/GEN_1205113225.aspx?id=325

Men’s volleyball. Put a banner up stating winner of the final four (can’t remember the year). See how the NCAA makes us forget. In small print “not acknowledged by the NCAA.” Anything wrong with that?

Live feed at UH.

http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/category/198303/livestream

#226. We’re not in a BCS conference. No chance of playing for the NC if we aren’t in the right conference. JD would sell his soul to the devil to get into one of those conferences.

Bridge program for newcomers, summer school, connection with Japan, among those listed above.

Class.

BS . . . that is not a voluntary resignation speech. He was not happy with retiring, that was obvious. Pretty shady of the ADMIN to keep saying “his decision.” If it was, he would have had more to say.

dont state the obvious…..we all KNOW he aint retiring cuz he wants to………

AT LEAST HE DIDNT SAY HE WAS GOING TO SPEND MORE TIME WITH HIS FAMILY…..

256 . . . of course it is obvious, I am just pointing out that they kept saying it was “his decision.” Why didn’t they just speak the truth? That’s all I’m saying.

primo123 – I think he said that he is going to forgo 500k of his 1.1 mil salary as part of the settelment to retire.

Thank you Coach Mac!

Sad day for Hawaii Football. Mahalo for everything you did for the kids, Coach Greg McMackin.

We are all in God’s Hands.

which God?

A class person.

A giving person.

We close one Chapter…..Another will soon Open…..God has a Plan…..

If I heard right, he started by saying “I’m here to announce my resig…retirement…” Anyone else catch that?

#266…Kev…this God plays a 4-3…no worries….

primo . . . like em! too funny

Al, don’t think new coach will be on board before New Year’s. They need to post, and “National search” tells me they will have a “committee”, review applications, interviews, etc. Lucky if they have coach in place before LOI.

And, even then, until they pick a coach, what is the current staff going to say to a recruit? They don’t even know if they will be retained.

Who to blame? Upper Campus. They only begrudgingly continue to have an athletic program. Just a matter of time before “doomsday” scenario plays out for UH athletics.

Unless there is a turn around in their thinking of the salary range, the new head coach will either be a re-tread, or an assistant coach they decide to take a chance on with no track record as a head coach.

Everyone has thrown out a bunch of names – none so far seem realistic.

I hope this move doesn’t bite us in the rear & put the program 10 steps backward just for the sake of change. Finding good coaches now (especially when you got so many schools ‘shopping’ for coaches) aint going to come cheap (and it seems this administration can only afford cheap):

“Arizona paid its assistants $1,506,510 in base salary in 2010, which ranked seventh in the conference. The money available to Rodriguez for assistants likely will increase by about a third.

“Salaries in the coaching world have exploded,” Rodriguez said last week, talking about money for assistant coaches.

“I’m not complaining, because they have been good for head coaches, too,” he added with a chuckle. “But the assistant coaches are what have really taken off. That’s just part of the market.”

Did JD mention anyone as the interim caoch?

Hiflyer–

“McMackin had one season left on a five-year deal worth $1.1 million annually. As part of the agreement, McMackin accepted a buyout for $600,000. The university will begin a national search for McMackin’s replacement immediately. UH assistant coach Rich Miano will serve as interim head coach.”—–staradvertiser.com

Yes. Rich miano is interim

What a turn of events. Coach Mack went from negotiating his extension to resigning.

And, the spooky thing is, we had 26 seniors. Many of the players this year are freshmen who are redshirting, or sophomores. But, given they are so young, how many may transfer out during the spring and summer?

We are now embarking on a 3 year rebuilding program, and will be just like New Mexico St. and Utah St. a few years ago. This is going to be a major rebuild. But, we get what we asked for — only problem is, we are looking for someone to lead this effort, and don’t know if we will get a “June Jones” savior, or another Fred Von Appen. We don’t know as it is likely we will end up with an assistant coach from somewhere looking for his chance at a head coaching job. Don’t think the critics fully realized where they were going to end up in advocating change.

Did someone say we should maybe try Fred Lewis or David Reardon? Maybe. They sure talk like they know better. May as well give them a try. Can’t be worse than Von Appen, right?

Slugger:

This is Mrs. Momo. I gave the recipe for mochi-making to your mainland friend. I realize I forgot to mention that Pam or some such spray needs to be put in the bottom of the glass tube pan. Could you pass on that info. Thanks.

To our Warrior athletes:

Now is the worse time to sit around, sulk, feel sorry for Mack and wait for changes. It’s counter productive and doesn’t change the inevitable.

All you have control over is yourself. Set your sights on next year. Get out there and start lifting. Start running. Engross yourselves in your schoolwork. Keep the program moving forward.

Once the dust settles and all the puzzles fall into place, you better be more than ready take this program to a new level!

A new dawn has risen. I MUA!!

Well no one knows if anyone is going to be a schools savior. It’s all a gamble. That’s the problem with not being able to look into a crystal ball and telling the future. I blame the crystal ball manufacturers on this one.

If Coach Mack continues to pursue coaching, he will be snatched quickly. He’s a good man and coach.

He committed and did re-shape a program, but I still don’t believe he was sastified with the complete product of where he wanted it. That first year was a doozy with hiring the wrong coaches out of appeasement to the community.

It was time to move on.

Difficult circumstances trying to build a circle of coaches out here in the islands, appeasing to the community, boosters and such. Plenty of distractions and different customs.

Just time to start fresh and morph into what is evolving around CFB, a faster operating offense, If you wan’t to keep up.

I’m with you Buffoman. I don’t want to see us go below Div I but I surely question the wisdom of UH’s “Powers that be.”

If Mack really is choosing to retire, why is the state buying him out of his contract for $600,000? Greg McMackin is choosing to quit after 4 of his 5 year contract, and taxpayers are paying him over half of the remaining salary for work that he isn’t going to do.

So not only is Greg McMackin a bad coach, he is also a quitter who gets paid to quit. Don’t give me these lies about him being a nice guy by leaving $500,000 on the table. He should leave the entire $1 million since he is choosing to retire.

kden peeps nuff with the coach mac bashing he has resigned. now it up to where the real problem lurks and that is the UH. We’ll now see how much “commitment to excellence” will be made to improve the program.

mahalo to mac for allowing the fball program to grow. thanks for leaving the fball program with a better opportunity in planning its future. always looked out for the best of others. class with dignity. good luck in your future endeavors.

Many of us here shared the same excitement of a balanced run and passing offense. Time to put the traditional R & S to rest, and hybrid it up to the coming 2012 speeds.

Thanks for all you have done for our state and our team Coach Mack. You have helped build championship teams here and molded true scholar athletes.

You came with your eyes and heart wide open and your head up. You go the same way.

God Bless you and yours always.

“May the road rise up to meet you, may the wind be ever at your back, and until we meet again, may God hold you in the palm of His hand.”

Old Irish Saying

#302 – he did not chose to “retire”. Anyone that thinks that is obviously IQ deficient.

He could have chosen to be fired – and that way he would get his 1.1mil.

God bless Coach Mack. Giving up $500,000 for the University is more than most of us will ever do for the school in our lifetimes. We wish him and his family the best.

Maybe Ferd Lombardi (alias Lewis) & Knute Reardon (alias Dave) will apply & get hired (since UH could probably get them for a $1 over their current salary). If we lose, no problem – just toast them & fire ’em after the first game. (If they can dish it, they can take it, right?)

#302 – get the facts right… he has a contact that would have paid him the 1.1 million $$$

Quitter.. what the hell you know… before you call someone a quitter know the facts…

He could have took the money and run…. I have been going to games since 1975 missed maybe 2 home games… How many games have you gone, have long have you supported the team…

@313,

Spot on with your post…

I guess all the loud ones and the ones that like to pick on the positive people are estatic that the coach has retired. You got what you wished for, me I’ll just keep supporting the team and hope that next coach has a fast start and connection with Hawaii in order to keep the vultures and the whiners happy.

I am hoping that JD and Upper Campus gets it right this time and puts the new coach in place ASAP. Foot dragging is a diesease here.

Coach Mack and Staff, thank you for all your efforts in producing good student atheletes that are graduating on time and plyed without quitting. Mahalo and Good Luck in the future.

Football has an economy of scale. If the core fan base is 15,000, a budget should be established to fit the base. The non-premium seat prices should be dropped to make it more affordable for everyone. Keep the alcohol prices high but drop the food and soft drink prices.

Our goal should be seven wins a season to qualify for the H. Bowl. Forget the RPI, because unless there is a NC playoff system, we don’t have a prayer. Schedule similar schools at home who want to treat the Hawaii game as a bowl game.

Hire a HC at $500K and look for double-dipper retiree types who want to come here to coach. He doesn’t need to be local, just a gentleman and a people person.

Tweak the RNS so it is uniquely ours and intern coaches who want to learn to coach it. Remember JJ went after St. Louis players because they ran the same offense. Anyone who thinks we can recruit for a pro set or WC offense should remember the very well spoken, football genius who replaced Bob Wagner.

Heavily market Hawaii football camps that are affordable or free to local players.

Keep the price of PPV for seniors low but raise the commercial prices for bars and venues showing the game. They can afford to pay it.

We’ll get the 20K fans at each game, make it to the Hawaii Bowl, get lucky every few years with a high level surprise player and maybe get on TV.

Go Warriors!

apply for the HC job # 0080110

http://www.pers.hawaii.edu/wuh/nadvert.aspx?rn=13697&si=1249636&pn=1&sn=postdate&so=desc

Jim Donovan was on the radio. He is in no rush to find a new head coach. He said it is more important to find the right fit.

Mahalo Liz for sharing the Players’ mana`o. They knew the character of the coach. They knew the adversity faced this year. They lived it. And now we know, they read the blogs too. Coach Mac will be the first to tell his team and coaches to stay together as a team and to keep believing. We can only hope that the new HC is of the same mold.

Buffoman and Liz,

UH *cannot* drop down to D-IA or D-II. Those schools cannot afford to send their teams to Hawaii to play. UH can afford travel subsidies to MWC schools, but can UH afford to pay travel subsidies to D-IAA schools? The reduced competition, reduced BCS trickle-down money (WAC and MWC gets BCS money even when no non-AQ school goes to the BCS), and reduced TV ratings will kill UH’s revenue.

UH’s women’s teams would also be devastated by the drop in football scholarships. The 22 less scholarships for Title IX would probably result in 2-3 or so teams being eliminated…with a very good chance that there would be no more softball team, for example.

@314,

Good post… I hope these guys that were calling for his head have a viable option for Mack’s replacement…

However with Ferd and Reardon, they’ll probably come up with the same moronic candidates of Norm Chow, June Jones and Cal Lee…

Next season’s team will be a true representative of a coach Mack team.

Mack may not have been the sharpest knife in the drawer but he surrounded himself with a great mixture of experience and potential… This year was marred by injuries and fumbles.

You made a number of good points there. I did a search on the topic and found the majority of persons will consent with your blog

Garret- exactly… unless something radically wonderful happens in the upper campus… athletics may be history…

Change is a strange thing,

It cannot be denied.

It can help you find yourself

Or make you lose your pride

Yup, Slugger, for us, it is all about the “kids”.

GO WARRIORS!

GO *.BOWS!

Coach Mack’s contract extension basically came down to one game. It’s unfortunate given the several chances throughout the season to have gotten that one extra win, but that’s just how it went down.

The timing’s pretty awful. Rebuilding right when we’re about to head to the MWC (which, granted, is looking more and more like the WAC from a few years ago).

Best of luck to you, Coach.

The level of delusion here is unreal.

Yes, it’s the fans fault because we chose not to support a coach who could not win a bowl game.

Yes, it’s my fault for bailing on a team that couldn’t even go 500 in a terrible WAC conference.

Get real. I’m just glad the adults in admin have a bigger perspective them some of the people on this blog.

@344,

The fact that you “bailed on the team” makes you a bandwagon fan… Not a true fan…

Job posting mentions academic achievement/progress three times. Also states the candidate must be able to work with assigned assistant coaches. That’s gonna be a deal breaker for any experienced coach who wants to bring his posse with him.

McMackin is the football version of Bob Nash. Great guy, caring guy, great assistant, but average as head coaches. It would be nice to get a young up and coming coach in the mold of what Stanford has in David Shaw. Maybe Brian Norwood. He has the pedigree, personality and understanding of Hawaii.

Where were the assistant coaches in this retirement? You’d think they would have been supporting Coach Mack.

They were just as responsible for the 6-7 record as they were when we went 10-3.

posting Brian Norwood’s Baylor profile –

his son is playing in the NFL.

http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/norwood_brian00.html

Warrior Post.

London Sapolu

I would like to thank coach Mac for everything these past two years I have been in Hawaii. You gave a Junior College transfer a chance to play football at the highest collegiate level when no one else would. Not only did you give me my shot to play football but you gave me my opportunity to have a college education and a chance receive my degree. You are by far the most kind hearted man that has ever coached me. People from the outside will never understand what goes on in the WARRIOR family. You just let go of the only person who would fight for players from Hawaii and would give a scholarship to walk on/local boys.(Bryant Moniz,Corey Paredes,Richard Torres,Royce Pollard) I would have to say he made great decisions. Much Love to the McMackin and to the underclassmen, keep your heads up.

It is pretty hilarious reading the whining and foot stamping going on right now. Blaming “hater” fans and opinion columnists is just downright immature. Those who portray themselves as the positive posters on this blog are acting rather nasty. I imagine that it is easy to be positive when things go your way but it seems that positivity goes out the window when others offer a differing opinion or decisions are made that you do not agree with.

It is the AD’s job to find a new coach, not yours, mine of the media. While the buck stopped with Mack regarding team performance, it stops with JD in regards to the HC position. While players feelings are important, it is fan support that ultimately provides an avenue for their scholarship funded education and their facilities. While many may not like it, that support was waning due to the lack of fan confidence in the former HC.

Warrior Post

Miah Ostrowski

Would just like to thank Coach Mac for giving me the opportunity to be a Warrior… Great man that always stood up for his players no matter the situation.. Great coach that made all the right moves.. Much Respect to you Coach!!

People wondering why Mack “retired”?? Having him retire allows UH and Mack to highlight the positives he was able to accomplish. If he was fired, that press conference would have been to justify the firing with negative stuff. It was going to happen and everyone saves face….

Just wanted to say that the above Jason is a different Jason from me (everyone’s favorite evil math teacher).

I wish Coach Mack the best, and I’m looking forward to hearing about the future …

There is no doubt that Mack was a great guy and took great care of the players. Those are great qualities to have as a coach. BUT, those qualities don’t necessarily translate to an effective HEAD coach.

I think hiring a new coach is the right move for UH. I believe that Mack had done as good as he could do. I want UH to be the best that they can be. Are there better coaches out there, I believe there are. If that makes me a hater then, I’m a hater. Fans calling other fans haters, because they want what they believe is the best for UH, now who’s the hater.

Re #368

Call yourself whatever you want. Labels are cages.

WILL you show up next year? WILL you support the team?

Best post this afternoon:

Slugger:

This is Mrs. Momo. I gave the recipe for mochi-making to your mainland friend. I realize I forgot to mention that Pam or some such spray needs to be put in the bottom of the glass tube pan. Could you pass on that info. Thanks.

Who needs some Pam for their posts?

Dan-O: and importantly, Financially. Gimme, Gimme, Gimme not how can I help the team.

#371 My belief that we need a new coach labeled me a hater by other posters.

Most tumultuous day. Hopefully the change ends satisfactorily for the players, community and university.

@382,

I second..

Looks like Mr. Tsai will depress the button and lock the doors soon.

I’m a hater.

I hate showing up at games and watching indecision, wrong decision, no decision p*ss away the effort of the players.

I hate listening to nat’l TV talking heads speak about Hawaii as a “challenge” in the pre-game show and “just a step behind” in the post-game.

I hate ruining the anticipation of a great end to a season by watching the players get put into bad positions and getting blown out to end their careers.

I hate when “fans” who no remember the color of the Hawaii helmet before it was black, green, or white (it was gold) tell me I one bandwagon fan.

@389,

You are NOT and bandwagon fan… Not in the slightest… If you wanted Mack gone, that’s fine. It’s your opinion, I have no problem with that. You are not a hater. I get that.. if you have watched every game, despite your negative opinions towards the staff, I respect that. I see you on here everyday. I know you follow this team and follow it as closely as I do…

However, if you were a fan that only shows up when the team is winning… There is no other word for you but bandwagon fan… People who were calling for Mack’s firing that actually still supported the team I have a lot more respect for, then people who were just waiting for Mack to fail to jump on him…

Correction:

Need to make it affordable due to the high cost of living here in Hawaii.

I hate when we loose our starting QB, 2 WR’s, 2 OL, for the season and we had Austin Hansen our Starting LT gone B4 the season started. And people expectations are still high?? get Realistic people!! Your still a hater and if u dont go to the game and only come out when the going is good and dig out when its bad…. your a bandwagon fan! FYI his only 2 seasons with no bowl game he LOST his STARTING QB. BTW 2009 Bryant Moniz thrown in to action due to injuires… 2010 bryant Moniz takes us 10-4… 2011 david graves thrown into action due to injuries… 2012???? looks like we could have had another good one… especially with all the young players getting action this year!

#244:

funny that you mention it, but someone posted that in the NCAA office with MVB championship placques, it has Hawaii as the “national champs” – was it 1996 or 1997?

if that’s the case, the NCAA should have the alas to go back and rescind their decision and make UH the Offical MVB champs – have the moral courage to do so!!!!!!

Late – Tommui — thanks for setting 302 straight …

some will Never Understand the Concept of Giving, especially that rare version called “Giving it everything you’ve got … ” or at least everything you can … Mack is not only leaving it all on the field plus a bonus half a million (similar to the way JJ took pay less than half of what he was offered elsewhere), he’s still leaving it in the smart program changes (fighting for the players), trying to continue building something solid versus the ‘big-talk’ smoke and no follow-up band-aid scratch and dent programs built by many in the upper campus and most of the legislature …

Similar Example: the APEC fix-up ‘overnight successes’ (EX: Ala Moana/Nimitz Gateway improvements were 30 year old nothing-much-happening projects until President Obama/Senator Inouye pumped Federal Dollars in … similar to how JJ got his own ‘financing’ for anything he was able to do (despite all roadblocks set up by “upper help”) …

Yeah, it’s hard to please All or even Most of the people Most of the Time …

especially from The Front of the Room with the bright lights on and visibility …

Look at approval ratings … The President, The Legislature, The Governor, Your Cell Phone Company …

The Boo Birds talk as if they think they would (or even already do) a better job …

WAC Championships:

– Coach Tomey (who i admire & respect, Winningest Coach for Two Programs including Arizona which he took to #1 in the Country) 0;

– Bob Wagner 1;

– J.Jones 2;

– Mack 3 …

Two Fired — Still Four of The Best Ever …

Mahalo, Coach Mack (and Tomey, Wagner and Jones)

Best wishes to coach Mac

I think the UH admin would be wise to proceed in the same way that they did in hiring basketball coach Arnold–someone with strong recruiting skills and connections as the ability or inability to recruit is usually the bottom line

So far here are a few names that people have commented on as being Mack’s replacement.

Pat Hill

Dick Tomey

Rick Neuheisel

Jack Del Rio

Mike Stoops

Jim Tressel

Tommy Turberville

Bill Cowher

Gene Stallings

I would like to add a few of my own. Mike Holmgren, Jon Gruden, Pete Carroll, Jim Mora, Mike Ditka, Tony D’Amato, Jesus

Jesus is busy now; he’s sending Vince Lombardi

Here’s Hoping we get Lucky or Fortunate …

That Once Again AD J.Donovan can pull a Rabbit out of the Hat … and Find a Good-to-Great Coach (like Gib, and previously Shoji, Tomey, Trapasso, Coolen) whose willing to put out Top-Notch Effort and Results @ Cut-Rate Salary …

so we don’t have a repeat of the Tomey-Wagner lesson (FVAppen) with the JJ-Mack successor …

———–

IWWTHM — That would be a great service — to track all the names thrown in … maybe we should start a list of why they would take the downgrade in Pay and Status to come here … [we got JJ, Mouse, Tomey, even Mack because this is a great place to “play” — do what you love, coaching, after you’ve already earned all you need for life …]

Stretch,

Nevermind already… it’s like talking to a wall for some already.

Watching Monday night football and they keep mentioning how hard san diego has it due to all their injuries on such a talented team! I say fire their coach! lol… theres no excuse to loose! i guess the man cant draft

Wouldn’t be surprised if Mack ends up with Mike Leach or even JJ, if JJ moves to Arizona.

Watching Monday night football and they keep mentioning how hard san diego has it due to all their injuries on such a talented team! I say fire their coach! lol… theres no excuse to loose! i guess the man cant draft

jonj,

Both the Chargers’ head coach (Turner) and GM (Smith) *are* getting fired when this season is over. The Chargers are already investigating their replacements, with Bill Cowher already in discussions where he has told the Chargers what GM he wants if he takes their coaching job.

But they aren’t just getting fired for what happened this season–there has been a steady decline in their results from past seasons…when there were no major injuries to point to. Going from winning playoff games to losing the first game to not making the playoffs to a LONG losing streak means the coach and GM know they are out of their jobs soon.

Like #409, #414

I really like Coach Mack but you have to protect the Hawaii Bowl. He failed to win one and lost two chances to get in. The blowout from Tulsa after the 10-4 season was unforgivable. He had to get in. We were up at halftime against BYU and we blew it – at home. I thought they should have renewed after LT. But they didn’t and now we have to move on. All the best to the coach and his family!

November 17th, 2011 at 7:38 pm

The word from Lower Campus Road is if Hawaii doesn’t qualify for the bowl, Coach Mac is fired right after the BYU game, If Hawaii loses the bowl game, Coach Mac is fired the next day.

Sometimes the reporters that people chastise know exactly about what’s going on at UH.

I thought roy-san was banned from here.

Since so many people are pulling the names of coaches out of their butts, I will get with the program – I pull out Brian Cabral. I know not much about him except he played at St. Louis and recruits away several local kids each year. What are the pros or cons about him, aside from that he may not want to come home?

You mean like the yellow pages and google? I think UH has a Yahoo who uses BING-oh… and when they’ve exhausted their search, they’ll ask Alibaba.

I saw this yesterday and its worth reposting.

Thank you coach Mac for taking the reigns as a tsunami was building. JJ ran a terrific double reverse and we were left scrambling. Thanks for stepping in and stablizing those rough seas. A different twist could have you pondering a DC position at ASU…for a similar salary. What happens next happens. If you should be on the sidelines next year, I know we will be successful. If you should be absent, I know we will be successful. We are the aloha state and I have much aloha for you. Thank you for taking care of our sons.

okay Jim Donovan. Now is your chance to make like Coach Mack. The smaller print output in the Hawaii Tribune Herald for UH Football this past season, for instance. We can work on that. If you want all Hawaii to stand behind UH Football, you gotta promote the media.

jmo.

Coach McMackin.

Again, thank you for all you did for the State of Hawaii. You were Johnny on the spot, when we felt dispair and the feeling of holding a empty bag. Thank you.

Does anybody know who Jim Donvan’s hires were and how they are doing?

425…i see you watched the kitv news tonight, too.

JD has input but no decision making power on the football HC.

Wahine Soccer did pretty good this year (3rd in the WAC regular season). Wahine BB not so good. Only connection is both are women, have Japanese last names and under 5’7 ft. Charlie Wade is also JD’s hire. This is a defining year for him as well as Wilton’s stud recruits Umlauf and Walker have graduated.

People are just getting stupid already. A coach got shown the door, or “retired” and now people are predicting the end of UH athletics all together? Ridiculous! Drop down to D-1? Just plain silly.

I am human and felt just as bad as anyone else did for Coach Mack the man. But reality of the situation, he didn’t get the job done. If the AD let it continue for that amount of money, he wouldn’t be doing his job.

Now everyone else who wanted a change is labeled a “hater” or “moron” or whatever else names some of you (as kevin said) “holier than thou” people choose to throw out. Running a football program is about money, wins and losses, and graduating students. Mack made progress in one of those areas and has caused steps back in the other two.

I feel for Mack the MAN, and wish him well. I am excited about a new coach, provided the UH make the right decision.

And as for the players comments that a poster wants to throw at everyone who wanted Mack out . . . where were those before it happened? I am glad they support their coach. That is what we should all expect. Players don’t want to lose a coach who they have grown attached to, respect, and admire.

Wasn’t there a coach from the water polo team or swim team?

Hey, Clown. STFU!

Translation: Stephen Tsai Fans Unite!

Coach Mac-

We will forever be grateful to you for providing the dream of a young boy’s lifetime to become a U of H Warrior. Kody will continue living his dream and his passion for playing the game of Football with thoughts of you. Mahalo nui loa

If those redshirts could have contributed he would have played them. Fool – he get’s paid to win.

465#:So what your saying is Trevor Davis would have the same grasp of the offense in the beginning of the season as he did when he got the chance to start…