Leaving the Beavers
Warrior football will miss Mike Riley, who will leave Oregon State to be Nebraska’s head coach.
And Warrior football won’t miss Riley.
Riley always had a good relationship with the Warriors, largely because of his willingness to play in Halawa or Corvallis. Sure, much of it had to do with wanting to using the games as a recruiting tool. But a lot of schools recruit in Hawaii without the willingness to actually play here.
How Riley’s departure will affect OSU’s recruiting in Hawaii — particularly if Mike Cavanaugh and Joe Seumalo go to the Midwest — remains to be seen. Because of its Pac-12 membership, OSU has a fat bank account — but not as fat as Nike-fueled Oregon. UH has been relatively competitive with OSU in recruiting. Will Riley’s departure slide a few more percentage points Hawaii’s way? The answer will be apparent when recruiting hits the home stretch in a few weeks.
I would look for Mark Banker to take the reigns at OSU unless someone spectacular comes along or shows interest…
Which means Oregon St will still recruit Hawaii hard…
First! Interesting choice for Nebraska.
Chow should get rid of his special team’s coach.
He, Chris Demarest, is not only a cancer to the team. But for all that yelling, swearing at his players (I’ve seen this), and intimidating tactics- the net worth of the coach isn’t very much. The yield, morale wise especially, isn’t there. Chow can find, do, better.
Statistically the numbers favor Demarest when he had player anomalies on his side-Harding, Dunnachie, Mouton. But without these type of players… he is not as good of a coach as people think-although my contention is that this coach is not good for the overall morale for the team. There have been numerous eyewitness reports describing the coach as berating his players, using abusive language, and bumping into said players that made a mistake during games.
Personally I’ve seen the coach yell, cuss, and in one incident abuse a player during a practice with the initials BH (true freshmen at the time) over kickoff play, where the coach appears as a madman, instructs the player off the field, yells some more… and then yells at the ball girl that was trying to give the player water. Add on deprivation tactics.
Case in points.
This season kickoff return defense ranked near last (125). In the preceding two season -83rd and 75th.
Another below average grade -the kickoff return team ranked at 102nd.
Add to the fact that the special teams during Demarest tenure has been more exposed by the opponent’s fake punts and onside kickoff, where I am hard pressed to remember when the Warriors done likewise to their opponent’s.
Still, Demarest, has had his shining moments-a couple blocked kicks this season and the stellar play of his player anomalies during the three season the coach has been here…but I have bad ominous, cancer-like, feeling of his overall presence to the team. In other words I have no admiration for temperamental coaches like Demarest that I have to ask this question-who would want to look up to, respect or even play for this type of coach . This type of person you can sniff a mile away, or better yet check the past internet of Demarest’s detractors and other evidence of the coaches temperament.
Until now people have suppressed their tolerance for Demarest. There have been whispers. There have been reports. Chow has chosen to look the other way. This has to stop-Chow and players need better for the sake of better team morale and coaching.
It’s likely we will some Hawaii kids going to Nebraska now. Especially Riley/Cav (if he follows) want to continue recruiting Hawaii, maybe the AD can approach Nebraska and set up a home and home series.
Mark Banker has 0 chance of landing HC job at OSU
Riley to Nebraska is an interesting move… It wasn’t that long ago that Riley was close to being fired for a few seasons of mediocrity. Riley has always been able to land a couple game breaker-type players. The timing for Riley’s departure was good because Sean Mannion is done after this year and 2014 OSU wasn’t his best team in terms of talent.
Now he’s got to deal with a fan/booster base that has unrealistic expectations. Riley has never had a hallmark defense, but Nebraska was once know as the “Black Shirts” or something like that to describe their once formidable D (pre-Pelini). Given Nebraska has a history of firing coaches following 9 win seasons, I don’t know if Riley can live up to Nebraska’s lofty goals, but few can. Sheesh, they forced out Tom Osbourne for cryin out loud.
If Riley can get Muschamp as his DC, they could potentially be really good in a couple years.
Hmmnn, seems it was a surprise to most everyone—both near and far, see: http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2014/12/oregon_state_beavers_commits_s.html#incart_maj-story-1
As my man, Omar, use to frequently say on the The Wire…”all in the game, yo”
5. Riley and Cav may still spend some time recruiting Hawaii players they are already in contact with, but given that they are Nebraska, they don’t need Hawaii recruits. They now have great access to Texas and the south, which is a much larger population base and deeper talent pool to pull from. Not to forget the big corn-fed farm boys from the Mid-West. The long tradition of Nebraska already puts them on the radar for many more recruits than they could have ever dreamed of at OSU.
What makes you say that Jeezy?
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Surprised about the move too. Riley’s pro style game was not competitive with the spread style PAC-12 schools with comparable recruiting.
8… That’s the fun of sudden coaching changes. It’s impossible to inform everybody in a coordinated manner.
Coach Arnold found out about his firing from internet/social media about an hour or two before anybody from UH told him.
10. Couldn’t even get the Hawaii job. There are much better candidates is the biggest reason though. He’s not a high profile defensive coach to begin with. I guess anything is possible but I would be absolutely shocked. Guys with Bankers profile usually take low end D1 jobs before getting a BCS gig.
12. That’s what Gib said… I have a hard time believing he didn’t see it coming when I knew he was being fired the night before.
I see Florida sucked it up and paid McElwain’s buyout of CSU.
Nice to see a university (CSU) handle its business properly for a change.
Oregon State did NOT have comparable recruiting w the rest of the Pac12, except for maybe CU.
Riley is a great coach i hope he does well at Nebraska.
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I think regardless of them being in Midwest they will still recruit Hawaii. Over the years they have seen the talent that has been coming out of the island and the value that those player have added to their teams. I mean already you’re seeing the teams that are coming here to recruit coming from schools further east like Clemson, Alabama, Texas A&M ,etc.
Raiola Tata and Tagoai
GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!
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GO BOWS!
Our kicking and punting game were excellent under Demarest (with Hadden and Harding). But our kick and punt return and coverage were bad– bottom of the MWC and they made him yell a lot without results. Will be interesting to see how he does without Harding and Hadden. We may have more punts and kicks returned and that will expose our poor coverage. If Chow lets Demarest keep using our starters for returns, it will be interesting to see if Demarest can move us from the bottom in that department.
Rumor: Tim Deruyter going to Oregon State
#4- I like coach Demo I think he is a good coach and he is also one of the better recruiters on the staff. If the players cannot take his cursing and being tough on them tell them to join the soccer team.
Rumor: Coach Chow going to Fresno State
How about this? Find another Australian rules football player, offer Harding a GA position (he has one more year to graduate) and have him coach up the player on his style of punting.
D1 and Boolakanaka. Remember Linfield legend Daryl Agpalsa? Now the O-line coach at the University of Buffalo. Imua!
We should think of bringing in Ole Miss Asst. AD Corey Batoon back to Hawaii in some capacity.
June Jones returns to his home state for the Oregon St job.
Cav is already there…
Coaxes Ulbrich to be his DC
ah, someone would have said it sooner or later
This is either a absolute genius hire or a what-were-we-thinking hire. Wonder what Husker fans are thinking about this decision.
So which brother did UNLV hire? Was it Lorenzo or Frank?
Lorenzo’s money
Kifi, 3prong and d1shima, dis ones for you guys—-see; http://www.catdomealumni.com/legends/Legend_Agpalsa.html
#29 – sorry, wrong blog.
Thanks Boola.
So many changes…good for the eyes n ears n toes…these rumors…
makes interesting reading…
As for the meeting with the ‘two’ leaders up there at UHAD…no rumors…
nothing…nada…only peep me heard was Larry Price was coming back….
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OSU fans complain regularly that Banker couldn’t defend spread offenses.
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If true the Nebraska hiring is even more questionable. Last thing you want is a HC who is can’t recruit.
20. Kinda agree. I would hold my breath every time Hadden’s kickoffs did not make it into the endzone.
Wow Riley to Nebraska. I would be surprised if he recruited here.
Jones won’t being going anywhere. He has too many red flags. Arizona State double checked, confirmed the rumors…and pulled it’s last day offer to Jones. There were hurdles. The professor’s notorious written article said it all-otherwise ask yourselves the question why Jones didn’t sue for slander. Jones is marked. OSU,UNLV or any other school would be selling their morale turpitude in hiring Jones. Say no to coaches that have no morals, accepted behaviors.
If I were DeRuyter I’d try to get out of Fresno.
Things were falling apart before the late surge this year.
Apparently Banker was in flight — to Honolulu, by the way — when it was announced Riley accepted the Nebraska job.
any news on our staff shakeups?
39. Good … Probably on his way to visit Salanoa Wily… Wasted trip
# 15. FUHA, Note: ” In addition, McElwain has agreed to pay $2 million to Colorado State over time, sources told McMurphy. “
With Riley headed to Nebraska, question is if he takes any of his OSU staff with him & who. Cavanaugh or Seumalo? I believe Seumalo’s daughter is going to OSU.
This may impact OSU’s recruiting until staffing issues are settled. JC LOI upcoming, and regular signing date in April.
Will OSU name a head coach by Christmas?
Wonder if Riley will continue a pass dominated offense at Nebraska. The Cornhuskers were balanced, leaning towards the rush. It will be interesting to see how he deals with the situation, and with what success.
Too good to be true???? Ben Jay next to be out?
http://collegead.org/hawaii-athletics/
44. That’s a misconception of Riley… What makes Riley a good coach is he plays to his strengths…. When he has RBs like Jacquizz Rodgers and Steven Jackson, he uses them and rides them. But he hasn’t been able to get those type of RBs every year so he calls plays to his personnel. He has had Brandin Cooks, Markus Wheaton and some big TEs, and a good QB so he has aired it out with Mannion.
#7 FUHA … sounds like you are describing Sarkisian … but with Riley getting 5 wins in 2014 and only 2 of those in the PAC12, it would seem Nebraska is either doing some very sophisticated calculus or added when they should have subtracted.
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Just looked up the press clippings… Florida to pay $5 million (largest school to school buyout ever) + McElwain to pay $2million over time.
However, Florida’s $5 million isn’t up front. $3 million is spread over six years and guaranteed a CSU vs Florida game in Gainsville for $2 million.
CSU isn’t going to have a ton of cash to steal a coach away from somebody, but they will have an extra $600k for additional salary or whatever. Since they were paying McElwain $1.5 million, theoretically, they presumably could afford over $2million/year without breaking a sweat. That puts them in the upper half of Power 5 conference coaches pay.
My guess is they would use most of the buyout money to upgrade facilities and try to find another coach in the same $1-1.5 million range they were paying McElwain. If CSU were smart they find a coach in that $1-1.5 million and raise the salaries of the assistants to get a better overall staff. Also upgrading the training table is the one area where you can go crazy on without fear of NCAA backlash (for now).
I would think having a kickass menu would be more than make up for substandard facilities. Maybe that’s just me think with my stomach.
46. That makes sense. I only compared 2014. Thanks!
My UW friends never thought too highly of Sark. He wasn’t able to maximize some good talent he had at UW, plus he had a bunch of off the field issues. From what my friends told me, Sark is kind of a sleaze bag.
Regarding Riley at Nebraska, I don’t know how he’ll do. I think he’s a good X’s and O’s guy. His recruiting has been a little inconsistent vs his peers. Nebraska football is definitely a much easier sell than Beaver ball to recruits. As long as he can haul in some elite DL talent and continue to find some playmakers like he has at OSU, he’s got a chance to last at Nevraska. The spotlight is certainly more intense in Lincoln than Corvallis.
Thanks for the link Jeezy. I wish these stories would come from local media but whatever. Jay was on Gary Dick Man’s show last night. He said he hadn’t had “time” to meet with Chow, as the meeting was supposed to be Tues or Wed. Jay would not commit to keeping or firing Chow.
I found that rather difficult to believe. Football program collapsing, and he don’t got time to meet with the coach?
Something is up.
Donovan was incredible in his hiring of Fib, right off the heels of the USC sanctions for paying OJ Mayo. Fib was the recruiting coordinator. Fib said Tim Floyd was his mentor and Floyd admitted paying Mayo. How we pick up Fib after that still stuns me.
Then you got Jay, I forgive the dude because he just is not capable of doing the AD job, proposing to give Fib – already the highest paid Big West coach never having finished higher than fourth – a RAISE AND CONTRACT EXTENSION in the face of the NCAA investigation.
If that isn’t lack of institutional control, it is sheer madness.
I hope the article is right and Jay is out. But what a mess at UH.
Christmas came soon…. Time to celebrate!
Kifi,
By all accounts, Agpalsa is deservedly amongst the most legendary of names mentioned in Linfield football history.
After listening to The Herd, Reilly seems to be jumping from the frying pan into the recruiting fire by going to Nebraska.
Incredibly swift falling dominoes for this one as many assistants were caught flat-footed as they were making contact call today and being informed by the recruits about the change! One recruit even said that Reilly himself had dinner last night at his home and never once mentioned Nebraska.
http://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2014/12/oregon_state_beavers_commits_s.html#incart_maj-story-1
Makes one wonder what the back story is that precipitated such a hasty decision?
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Wow that time frame is coming up very shortly too. How credible is that site though? Never heard of it
Jeezy, thanks for the link. All very interesting. My view about Jay is that under his reign, the student-athlete graduation rate has been rising. So he should get credit for that. On the other side of the spectrum, I fault him for even mentioning a DII option due to finances. That should never have been vocalized where the media got a hold of it. And they have been running with it into the ground. Instead, the AD should have been selling the public the cost was and is a small price to operate a 21-sport athletic program. The cost of $3.5 million (E) is the amount needed to balance the operating budget. The other $30 million is derived from ticket sales, concession sales, H-Zone sales, corporate donations, public donations to the UH Foundation, and other incoming revenue. Essentially, the UH athletic burden to the UH operating budget is the deficit of $3.5 million (E). For that, we get threatened with the possible closing of the football program; move to DII; or cutting some sports. All smoke and screen threats. Bottom line, I feel we have an AD without a vision to restore UH football among the leaders in the Mountain West and how to go about getting there. Plus no gumption to make a football coaching change when it has become too obvious one is necessary to reinvigorate confidence and public support that will revitalize football ticket sales/revenue.
It will come as no surprise if Ben Jay is fired, as indicated in the AD article…It’s been a series of “blunders” over time since BJ has been here inclusive of the Warrior name change, the football program/Chow, the mens BB team, and his handling PR situations (i.e. shutting down football). I think we need to go in a different direction and find someone who as a more “positive can-do” attitude, who is able to unite boosters, and has an affinity to the islands…I don’t know if Tomey is too old or unavailable, but I would at least hire him as an “interim” director till we are able to sort things out…
Hopefully, Chow is not far behind and we can move forward in reviving the football program…
The suggestion on here by sumone…makes MUFI a better n better candidate for AD .an he knows athletics.. n has the smarts to talk to the ‘brown nosers’ also…and he plays politics….3 ingredients that is necessary for that job…
If I was OSU I would give Pelini a call.
56. I honestly don’t know what the graduation rate has anything to do with Ben Jay. I mean, I played sports in college…. I don’t think my AD had any help in that. I think once Hawaii was close to getting probation for having low scores, all the coaches had to step it up to make sure the kids were going to class, studying harder, not taking as many risks on borderline recruits. Not sure I credit the AD for that though..
Ben Jay has been a disaster from day 1 and haven’t seen anything accomplished under his lead
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I would think the coaches, asst coaches and tutors would be more responsible for the better graduation rates
very much sporting football news 2 day…makes 4 a lot of chatter…
Good afternoon Tsaikos!!! Hope all have a great day!!!
Quick question for Kifi and Boola….Dang, I must be getting old. Was trying to tell someone about a player from Damien who played with you guys back in the day at UH and for the life of me I can’t think of his name. I can see his face though….LOL
Thanks.
#58: Mufi wouldn’t be a “bad” recommendation for AD, as it is “all about politics” and he is a sports figure as well. Another “off the wall” suggestion would be Neal Abercrombie, as I still think he wants to build his “legacy” and he is intimate about the University and State government. Not a “sports figure”, but someone who might have clout to turn the ship around.
jeezy33 me respectably disagree with you…
from what me read on here… seems like he holds the
‘record’ on most tweets SENT in a day.. for a AD …??? HE HE HE
And maybe the most all time most ‘divisive n isolating’ AD we ever had….
Frazier looked like a ‘angel’ next to him…
OSU would’ve been nothing in the June Jones days.
Beavs looking at Utah State Coach Wells and Wyoming Coach. Doubtful Banker has a chance, the fans don’t like him. The Nebraska forum board not happy with Riley hiring. Hard place to coach with Pellini going 9-3 and gets fired. Riley will have lots of blue chip athletes to work with, easier place to recruit. He should have stud 4 star OLine and DLineman.
Hawaii Gatorade POY finally gets an offer…
http://usatodayhss.com/2014/hawaii-football-poy-mckenzie-milton
From Paul Honda…
http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/hawaii-offers-mililani-qb-milton-scholarship/
#2, Jeezy, okie dokie. Happy Holidays, Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year.
Oh, that kind of beaver…
Jesse James aka gunslinger…the two names that come to mind (for at least my period) are Ana Tuiasasopo and Sam Moku. For Kifi, you might be thinking of the silent monarch assassin Scotty Voeller.
Ironically, I would be a strong supporter of Sam Moku as the next AD. He is former player, has solid business experience, educational credentials (MBA), currently a SVP at HPU, and literally knows everyone in Hawai’i–and really well liked.
For whatever 2 cents it’s worth, having a bit of personal insight into both Mufi and Neil, they would never really consider the AD position, but moreover, they don’t have really compatible skill sets.
They want to be the big luna, and the AD answers directly to the chancellor….
60, 61…
It’s on the coaches to stay on top of the athletes on the academic side. The Nagatani Center has tutors to help with most lecture hall classes and common core classes.
When I was at UH I don’t think I ever saw Hugh Yoshida before he retired. I did see Herm Frazier a few times crossing paths but never did the AD ever say, “how are classes going?”.
Possibly Mark Banker, Mike Cavanaugh, and Joe Seumalo going to Lincoln with Coach Riley? If so, there will likely be a number of coaches wearing “Red” recruiting the 50th State.
USU’s Matt Wells is among the names mentioned to replace Riley at OSU.
66.. UH split games with OSU under JJ. UH is 1-5 vs OSU since 1999
Under JJ:
1999 UH defeated OSU 23-17 @ Aloha Stadium
2006 OSU defeated UH 35-32 @Aloha Stadium
Under Mack:
2008 OSU defeated UH 45-7 @ Reser Stadium
Under Chow:
2013 OSU defeated UH 33-14 @ Reser Stadium
2014 OSU defeated UH 38-30 @ Aloha Stadium
Matt Wells would be a surprising move if OSU gets him especially for a guy who’s only in his 2nd year as a HC. He doesn’t really have enough of a track record to warrant getting a Pac-12 job unless OSU is going the super cheap route, which they don’t have to with their massive tv deal with the Pac 12. He’s still riding the coat tails from Gary Anderson’s recruiting so it’s too early to tell if Wells is the real deal.
69 boo: what year did Voeller graduate from Damien. Might have played against him.
Thanks Boola…I was thinking about Ana…. 🙂
#75 – Damien High School 1974
#77 – Might be the very best inside linebacker ever at the University of Hawaii. Might be between him and Ulbrich.
There will be two new head coaches in the Mountain West Conference next year. One is Colorado State and other one UNLV. But the UNLV had already signed they’re new head coach already. It’s high school head coach from Bishop Gorman. UNLV really think that playing college football is just like high school!. But really one thing that University of Hawaii football team really needs?!. 1. A new experienced quarterback coach!. 2. A other new offensive coordinator an assistant coach. they don’t need defensive coaches . University of Hawaii football program for next year they have a five star quarterback from USC. And a four star quarterback who coming back from missionary mission. He pass over 4,000 yards doing his last year in high school. Hawaii also have a four star runningback and three or more three star players for other position. Because they’re were grayshirt last year! . You really have to remember this that? Norm Chow is a Mormon. He had former players like Steve Young, Jim McMahon, Robby Bosco and other from BYU. And he also had great quarterback from USC and UCLA too. By given him a chance to show you all of you people of Hawaii. The new air attack like the old BYU use have!. You will be in shock that Hawaii can be 12-0.
3 prong Scott Voeller is 75 grad
Kifi, in one of the many games I snuck in (i.e. climbed a not so hidden wall in Halawa) Scotty was the Jedi master of the coil and strike–dat boy could hit–I think we all remember his 20 tackle USC aka, bye bye Charlie game….
#79 – are you smoking some pakololo? I want some of that.
#81 – That was an awesome performance.
#79. Wow, UH 12-0 for next year? The likelihood UH will be 0-12 in 2015 is far greater than for UH to go 12-0.
I’d like to see your score prediction for the games at Ohio St and Wisconsin and a brief keys to the game on how UH will win those games.
Another 2015 prediction/guess (and worth what you paid for it) .. but based on the status quo. 5 wins – 8 losses, and not much to sell season ticket holders on upgrading their seats. Lets hope that status quo gets augmented with additional leadership, thought, and capital.
Team (2014 Win-Loss): Location – 2015 Prediction
San Diego State (5W-3L): Home – Loss
Fresno State (5W-3L): Home – Loss
Nevada (4W-4L): Away – Loss
San Jose State (2W-6L): Home – Win
UNLV (1W-7L): Away – Win
Boise State (7W-1L): Away – Loss
Air Force (5W-3L): Home – Loss
New Mexico (2W-6L): Away – Win
Colorado 2W-10L (6th of 6 in PAC12-South): Home – Loss
Ohio State 11W-1L (1st of 7 in Big 10-East): Away – Loss
UC Davis 2W-9L (13th of 13 in Big Sky Div 1-AA): Home – Win
Wisconsin 10W-2L (1st of 7 in Big 10-West): Away – Loss
Louisiana-Monroe 4W-8L (7th of 11 in Sun Belt): Home – Win
What happened to dominique small? never really heard anything about him after he got injured
So Kifi and Thimas, is it 74 or 75? I know not 76 because Monarchs went to a 4/4 stack that year o hide the linebackers since the stud middle was gone.
Norm Chow will win 7 games if he gets rid of the QB and WR coaches. Chow must use his connections to get some experienced coaches to come to Hawaii.
It could be worse. It could be 0-13. However, it would be an improvement. With that record of 5-8, Chow would be back for his 5th season. And then in his 5th season UH could be 6-7. That would make it the same as McMackin in his last year. See, it would be as if UH never skipped a beat.
The power brokers and people in influence of decisions made regarding UH football are to blame. Their decisions has led this program to where it is now. The fans are the consumers. Put on a crappy product and people stay away. I guess only the true fans will be at the game. The rest will be watching on PPV or listening on 1420 ESPN or just waiting for the delay broadcast. The greatest message someone can send to UH is not spend money on tickets. Ticket sales says it all.
nanakuli…it seems to me he has no connections…or would they not be here already…he let 2 go last year…
the post on here yesterday with his record…pushed out..fired…fired…etc…is pretty compelling…
#90 808~Even PPV is losing money with UH football. More and more people are no longer interested.
So if Gib did something terrible, like the higher ups are thinking, why is he still getting paid?
No way az warrior…Mr. BJ is just to busy to meet him… maybe next year
he will find time to meet the ‘coach’ n see what his problem is… maybe nort enough fan support…he he he…wonder why that is….
Like I said, Mack was fired for many, many reasons.
92. Imagine if UH loses the money from Oceanic because the people at Oceanic feel UH football is no longer a profitable investment.
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If and when UH do make a change, BJ should be let go also. Instead of promoting the program, he paints a bad picture for the program. If he was a sales representative for a company trying to sell his product to a national store. This would probably be his sales pitch: “Oh, please buy our products. I need this sale because if not, our company will close. We need your help. Will you sign on with us. We really need the money.”
I don’t think he’s a great ambassador and leader for UH athletics.
The Oceanic/UH deal has, I think, six more years left.
Oceanic isn’t going away. That’s $2.3 million per year, minimum, even if there’s only one subscriber.
Papajoe:
Dismissing somebody without cause is a legal tactic. Basically, it’s paying out the rest of the contract.
If it were “for cause,” then UH could save money — that’s what happened when it fired Bolla — but it also could lead to having to prove its case, and then there are appeals, and lawyers involved …
Sometimes, it’s easier to say, “we’re moving in another direction, here’s your money.” That way they can part ways, Gib can leave without an demerit on his resume, and he gets paid. He can’t challenge his dismissal if he’s paid in full, which he will be.
There probably were a lot of grounds for dismissing a recent offensive coordinator. It was just easier to pay off the contract, let the person leave with a little dignity, and move on. Of course, the problem was it left UH short-coached in 2013. But, hey, you lose one guy or you lose four guys.
Back by “Popular” Demand?
“How I learned to Stop Worrying and Love the FCS Wins”
Act 1: Preseason – Things look much improved.
Act 2: Early season – It’s still early in the season.
Act 3: Mid season – We can still be bowl eligible.
Act 4: Late season – Decisions will come after the last game.
Act 5: Post season – Mostly silence.
Fin
Anyone else find Ben Jay’s reaction to the article online about his possible firing from the University odd? He was surprised that someone in the department let it slip that serious sanctions are coming due to the NCAA being misled or lied to in interviews considering the NCAA has not released its statement of findings/punishments. I could be wrong but if he’s that surprised and standing behind the idea that they have no idea what the NCAA is going to do our found, then why did they take the extreme actions of firing the coaches and declaring Fotu as ineligible in order to “beat the NCAA to the punch”. Obviously they knew something. To me it seems that he’s not completely in the loop with things going on at UH and that there may be something brewing in the background.
should ask rockne..he is always ‘in the loop’
As for the sanctions…they are coming…hopefully this year..so all can move on…
been hearing for over a month now…’sanctions coming this week’
It’s a shame though that the team could do well for the rest of the season but be banned from postseason. I’m curious as to who are the alleged people that misled for lied to the NCAA (if it’s true, and I’m thinking it is). If any of them are still employed, then they should be fired immediately.
#103 … sooner the better. The post wonder-blunder smears against Donovan & Sheriff didn’t build a good foundation for trust.
Maybe with the recent coaching change at OSU the UH coaches can circle the wagons and try to re recruit Harris Ross I believe he gray shirted this year so he’s open game and wouldn’t have to sit out a transfer season
Not sure what the NCaA will do to UH. On one hand all the people involved in the infractions are gone via self punishment… On the other hand is that the NCAA may still elect to smack UH hard to show that they are tough on rule breakers vs the mid-majors/have-nots, meanwhile in the background, let big name programs slide by that have major obvious infractions.
Notice how UNC’s massive academic fraud has been pretty much been swept under the rug already… Jimbo Fisher is the poster child for “Mr Lack of Institutional Control” for his handling of J. Winston’s numerous violations of NCAA rules, along with FSU code of ethics violations (which obviously doesn’t mean anything), and breaking laws.
I mentioned on the MBB blog that Tennessee (re: Bruce Pearl and Lane Kiffin numerous infractions) set the blueprint on how properly self punish and avoid major sanctions by the NCAA. UT self imposed about 20 very minor penalties. For example, they cut down the number of official recruiting visits they brought in…they voluntarily cut down the open recruiting period by a week or two… Little stuff that was easily worked around. The only major self sanction was firing Bruce Pearl… And that only happened because it was uncovered that Pearl had covered up players criminal arrest by saying they were injured. UT said they were prepared to fully support Pearl to the end until that info got out.
Wasn’t Sam Moku the one that ran back an Air Force mid-air fumble, for a stunning victory, on UH’s 4 yrd line for a TD very late in the 4th quarter? I think there was less than 2 min. left. Think Tomey was coach or was Wags. In any case, hire him as an AD. Im assuming he has sales skills like a marketing guy needs. Good idea from earlier blogger. Also, the MAIN REASON we have not been creative on the O side of the ball is because we have no one that can be creative PERIOD or someone may be shunning anyone that did have diff ideas. U thinking what Im thinking?
It was Robert Lan who ran it back.
People sing a different tune…now.
When Price abruptly departed the reasons that were given were that the coach was leaving for “personal reasons” (where some reasoning’s circulated that the coach was having marital problems) . I read it here on this blog…the reason given by the author, then, seemed emphatic. At that time it didn’t make sense.
Tonight I read that ST let on that- “There probably were a lot of grounds for dismissing a recent offensive coordinator.”
That makes more sense than the initial reasons. Hooray, hooray. The truth came out of the closet.
What I can only speculate, and how it might tie in with Prices departure, is remembering a public report made by Jay that he made sometime around May 2013, denouncing unauthorized expenditures by (a) member(s) of Chow’s coaching staff. Nothing ever publicly became of that wrongdoing. Or did it? Perhaps the UHAD handled this situation internally.
The reason for speculation is that the day after Jay’s report I saw Price, along with Jones, carrying a flat screen television and walking towards the entrance of
Walmart (as if to return). Maybe this is coincidental. Maybe it doesn’t have anything to do with anything. But I wouldn’t eliminate something by the aforementioned lines that may have been the catalyst for Price’s departure.
Price by his nature, and what I can see and profile, is that he really is the type of person that is yeller at practice, full of energy. But what stands out is that he seemed to be the type that also beats to his own drum, goes in his own direction type, and is a leader not a follower type. I think both him and Chow coexisted, tolerated each other even though Price added such a polar presence to Chow’s staff. Gathering all that’s been discussed about Price’s departure, and adding my own intuitive thinking, I think Price crossed the lines, violated a rule, maybe even Chow’s rule and was released.
Gooooood morning, Tsai-kos!
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Hmmmn, as already previously mentioned, JJ in the mix??? See: http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2014/12/who_is_next_at_oregon_state_be.html#incart_maj-story-1
USU’s Matt Wells or EWU’s Beau Baldwin would be good choices for the OSU job. Both are proven winners at their respective schools.
we should all expect the NCAA to drop the bomb on UH because it’s a “little guy” – NCAA always dumps on the little guy and the “big boys” get away with a tiny and I mean a very tiny slap on the hand
NCAA is controlled by the now P5 conferences – why should they “dump” on their kind/big boys?
some day an energetic young lawyer will challenge the NCAA by filing a “discrimination” action for their flagrant disciplinary practices and there are mountains of examples – me likes “Federal” discrimination action because it can open the entire NCAA to scrutiny
NCAA always like to interview all the disgruntled players who left the program because it creates may more avenues to “stick it to the school” – these are the ones most prone to spill their guts for everything they disliked about the coach(s) and it could be a very tiny, tiny thing, but if enough former players say the same thing it becomes a BIG thing for the investigator.
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