It’s not over …

How big were the smiles on the parent’s faces for senior night?
Down on the field their smiles lit up the stadium. This is part of the game as well.

I had a chance to speak with Frank Lloyd Sr. (parent of Jr. #70). He is right; playing for UH and getting your education is a great experience.

Who is the head coach right now? Who are the other coaches? Who are the players?
That is what we should keep in mind until the end of the season and keep up the support for the 2014 UH Football Program .

Now that we are both retired, hubby watches a lot of sports on TV.
He likes to explain the ins and outs of the NFL and NBA.
It’s like osmosis — I absorb all of this information whether I want to or not.

San Jose plays San Diego st
Unlv plays Nevada
Hope the impossible happens 🙂
But it’s all for not IF Hawaii doesn’t beat fresno.

Too bad the schedule worked out that SDSU and Nevada get the weakest MWC opponents this week. Chances are definitely slim on the things UH cannot control.

Lets hope for UNLV to get themselves up for their rivalry game. I think the rivalry game is the one thing that keeps UNLV from quitting on Hauck.

I don’t have much hope for SJSU at SDSU.

Glad to see there’s still a chance though… It’ll keep the players focused on the task at hand.

7.. .THat’s where it gets confusing…

If UH, SDSU and Fresno end up in 3-way tie at 4-4… Per MW tie-breaker for 3 way tie or more:
1st Tie-Breaker is win% vs tied teams: Everybody is 1-1 vs each other.
2nd Tie Breaker is win% vs MWC West Division: Fresno & UH would be 3-2, SDSU 2-3…(SDSU eliminated)

Once SDSU is eliminated via West Division record, it’s back to the 2-team tie-breakers which starts with head-to-head record. UH would have that over Fresno if UH, Fresno, and SDSU tie at 4-4.

Hope that helps…

If:
A defeats B;
B defeats C; and,
C defeats A…

Head2Head doesn’t work if A, B, and C play each other exactly once. If they play each other more than once (like NFL Division rivals, or College Basketball Conference rivals), then Head2Head works as a tie breaker for 3-way ties or more.

From my reading of the analysis, it is correct. if all three underdogs– San Jose, UNLV, and Hawaii all win in the last game, we win the tie breaker and play in the championship game. This appears to be an unintended consequence of the way the tie=breaker rules work– the tie-braker rules differ between two and three team ties. So the scenario works with a three team tie-breaker that eliminates the third team first, then goes to a tie breaker for the remaining two teams per the conference rule. The tie breaker would come down to us and San Diego State, and the tie breaker rule is best record in the division and if we beat Fresno, we end up with a division record of 3-2 while SDSU is 2-3 assuming they lose to San Jose State (note how the rule ignores the fact that head to head SDSU beat us). Every now and then these tie breaker rules cause head scratchers. But it comes down to do you take record in division (the rule) or do you override that with head to head like a lot of tie breakers do?

And… may the Gods of college football smile on our Warrior’s fate and fortunes!
Sometimes its just better to be lucky!

Kudos to The Team.
Marcus Kemp looked like he was in pain after
several of his earlier catches, like a dislocated shoulder
or something. What a Warrior 🙂

One huge …IF…

Keep Dreaming.

Good morning everyone!

My reaction: Let me get this straight… if the 3 teams in the bottom of the West standings all knock off their opponents in the upper half of the standings this week, then UH is the West champs…. 😯
…hey, get chance! (ala “Angels in the Outfield”)

Even though it’s a huge longshot, it’s nice to still have something to play for on the last weekend of the season.

ST,
I lived in California for 6 months in 1968 after graduating from UH, but never made it to Fresno. Wonder what it’s like.

As for Thanksgiving, roast turkey is the same everywhere. I am celebrating the holiday in Kahaluu.

Just too bad UH didn’t get Fresno earlier in the year back when they were a bumbling mess of an offense. Now that they have had the whole season to work on things, their offense is playing better.

The thing to key on is when the Fresno Oline tries to cut block, that tips off that a quick horizontal throw/screen is on. The DEs Yap & Kennedy need to read this and as soon as they feel the line going for cut blocks, they need to take a step back and get their hands in the passing lanes.

Good morning, Tsai-kos!

Awesome – for the butt squeeze continuation! Lol

Good luck, Warriors! Practice that team good and hard!

These diagram the stars alignment calculation; two links but same diagram; posted elsewhere (on FB):

http://m.imgur.com/lTTNcZh

http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46494

Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.

kind of wet but good for the garden…no need water today.

Great night for the seniors but why did the stadium people kick everybody out!?!!??
People were there to greet the players and the stadium was kicking people out!
Is Senior Night supposed to be like this? So much for hyping Senior Night. The public and the fans deserve better. The one night fans are able to show their Aloha and they weren’t allowed to. So what if you need to clean the place up by a certain time? If the game went into two or three overtimes you still need to clean up later than normal. Planning should have been in place to take into account the Senior Night festivities.

Those going to the Na Koa luncheon today, please try and get the Rainbow Dancers to give Coach Chow a dance lesson! He was so happy for the kids he was trying to dance with them. Well, I thought he was dancing. Rob Demello give “it” a name….he called it the “Norm”. It was great to see Coach Chow happy for a change.

ST….are the casinos open? I thought the Gaming Commission closed down the Indian casinos because they were fighting over money. Actually turned violent this past week.
Anyhoo, safe travels to the Warriors and those who travel. Mainland weather is not to nice lately.

Good Morning Tsaikos!!!

Like DPK said if can, can. Just take care of business that we can control.

What??? Still get chance?

It’ll be interesting to see if the confidence the team has gained from the last two wins
carries over to the FSU game. It has been said over and over Chow’s teams just don’t know HOW to win, maybe now they know.

In assessing the role of the three underdogs this week in the MWC, it would have to be that each would have to play a new flawless game and the collective opponents would have to lose the turnover battle, be on the wrong side of all controversial calls and play their worse game this season.

That would be quite difficult for such bad/good karma to descend on the participants. Would be fun to see, but quite improbable. Nonetheless, hoping for the best for the three underdogs.

I was reading the Las Vegas websites and it sound like:

1) UNLV coach was unhappy about the two penalties on them after they’ve scored their go ahead touchdown close to the end of the game. The two penalties allowed Hawaii to get the ball at UNLV’s 42. I was feeling sorry for UH at that time and did not pay close attention and not sure what UNLV did to get the two penalties. Can anyone fill me in?

2) Overall UNLV coaches, players and fans were unhappy about the clock. The coach actually use the video to time the incomplete pass before Kemp’s game winning touchdown and claimed that there is no way that play took less than 4 seconds. Was there 5 seconds on the clock at the time? Did we actually ran out of time? Did the clock operator stop the clock at 1 sec just because…?

3) I was wondering why UH did not get a penalty after the game winning touchdown for excessive celebration when players and fans were all over the field. I was worrying that the referees may deny the touchdown… Isn’t the NCAA has a recent rule which allows them to deny TD due to excessive celebration?

Overall, I am glad we’ve won…

ipu man… when u not have a ‘winning’ season..them buggas want to clean up n go home early…maybe…

seems like they not savor the win like most fans did….

n not fair to the seniors….. n especially their family n friends….

as 4 Hauck… when handed a bunch of grapes… you can make a wine or candy..or can add vinegar n make a ‘sour’ grapes…guess he chose the later…

Still chasing championships? Remote chance, but still a mathematical possibility. But, I doesn’t make a lot of sense. Say all of this happens (San Jose St., UNLV, and Hawaii), and we make it to the championship game. Our record going in is 5-8. Win it and be MWC champs then we’d be 6-8. Still a losing overall record and the last I checked we would still NOT be bowl eligible. Or am I wrong? Can a conference championship with a losing record go to a bowl game? Somebody’s got a lot of spaining to do. I was under the impression that a team has to have at least a .500 overall record, i.e. 6-6, or a winning record or better, i.e. 7-6 or better to be considered for a bowl game. Well, if San Diego State beats San Jose St. in the early game everything is a moot point.

stadium authority is not very ‘user’ friendly…
they make tailgate very difficult for fans to really enjoy…

take no hibachi n open flames….my guess it domes from the fire marshall…maybe sum one there can call n confirm…n if not.. then is the SA…THAT IS MAKINFG STUPID RULES…

why not just require that all those with open flames..must have a Fire Extinguisher present….n in working condition with up-to-date inspection tag…n if so.. if there are 50 people with Fire Extinguisher…there… should be able to put ne flames that may get out of control…

Hey BJ…YOU LISTENING…why not have a company there to inspect first game.. for free.. n give them free admission…that is called CRM….sumthing that os woefully lacking up there at UHAD….

There are lots of “if” concerning UH’s possibility of winning the West division of the MW. Good rhetoric but highly unlikely. UH will lose to Fresno State.

There were two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties after the last UNLV touchdown. One penalty was for the excessive celebration in the end zone. The second penalty was on #18, for leaving the sideline without his helmet. If you watch the replay…..you’ll see him in the celebration pile, WITHOUT a helmet on.

UH had the choice of either taking both penalties on the extra point try….and moving the try back 30 yards, or taking one 15 penalty on the try, and one on the kick-off, or taking both on the kick-off.

So let us say all the good stuff happens and UH is somehow allowed to get a waiver and go to the Hawaii Bowl as MWC Champs. The coaches could then get bonuses, right? As John Veneri likes to sing, “I’m lovin’ it.”

NCAA basketball tournament had a few teams with losing records going to the dance.

Being a former official…i know for sure you can penalize before the game…as many have done…

Not so sure after the game…been a very long time ago…rules change….but blatant ‘infractions’ will get a look at from the conference…but don’t know if can change the score…don’t think it has ever been done..

The Stadium workers like go home asap. Management no like pay them OT. Equals “No Aloha Stadium.”

Was that Jeremy Higgins, I saw suited up on Saturday? Emergency QB?

Norm Chow has already won the Oriental Coach of the Year Award. Two weeks ago, he was a candidate for OCYA. After winning the last 2 games, he’s hands down the winner.

Years ago, Fresno was a farm field.
I had to go out and dodge cow pies to figure out
where the shopping center would be.
And it was all possible thanks to the rail.
Bust to Boom and back to bust?

I am with you hossana although we may be the minority.

I’m watching the UH basketball game vs San Francisco. I really appreciate the camera work by our OC16 crew when our games our televised on OC16 compared to what I’m watching online. Man the camera work is really bad. Bunch of amateurs.

#68 no humor in your racist post.

Oldtimer808, where are you watching the game? Link please.

ahhh we are getting blized. USF out rebounding UH by a huge margin. Nevels still struggling with his shooting.

Wow #71 June Jones a loser. 12-1 Sugar bowl. 7,8 players who had a chance to play at the next level.

Get chance. Here’s how. San Jose St. beat San Diego St. the last time in San Diego. San Jose St. beat Wyoming in Wyoming. Wyoming beatFresno St. in Fresno badly. Fresno St. beat San Diego St. at home, so San Jose St. can win in San Diego.

UNLV beat Fresno St. in Las Vegas. Fresno St. beat Nevada in Fresno. So, it’s possible for UNLV to beat Nevada in Las Vegas.

Hawaii beat Wyoming in Hawaii. Wyoming beat Fresno 45-17 in Fresno. So, it’s logical that Hawaii has a fighting chance to beat Fresno St. in Fresno.

The difference in all the 3 games will be the turnover battle, and execution. Anybody can win if you give yourself a chance. Gotta believe, Hawaii!!!

me thought the ‘vandals’ were in idaho…

must have been sum of my relatives there…
them krauts are a nasty bunch…

SteveM:

UH cannot qualify for the Hawaii Bowl the past 4 or 5 years

perhaps, the fans would be happy even for the Hawaii Bowl – just as long as UH does not get blown out by a Tulsa

In 2011, Hawaii lost to Fresno State in a close game 24-21. Next year 2012, Fresno hires a new coach and we hire Norm Chow, and Fresno blows us out 45-10 (wins the MWC title and comes to the Hawaii bowl). That same year JJ brings SMU to the Hawaii bowl and they blow out Fresno 43-10. More than one lesson of history there.

Warriorfan2, although Chow should have made sure all the seniors played, I place all the blame on Naole for those 2 not playing. He is the one that subs the OL players in & out.

Fei J. Get chance is a fact. Nothing wrong in hoping that happens. When UNLV scored their last TD with 15 secs left I told my brother let’s go. I was thinking the Bows had no chance at that point. I didn’t know about the 2 unsporty calls and kickoff would be from the 10. I found out when I started the car and BC was saying there’s 5 secs left, ball on the UNLV 20, time for 1 more play.

I was thinking get chance. When the pass was incomplt I thought game over. To everyone’s surprise still had 1 more sec left. Again I thought get chance. The rest is history.

Most know the scenario for the Bows getting into the MWC champ game is very unlikely but undeniably still get chance. Then only thing the Bows can do is take care of their part and let the other two parts play out.

Unless you have a crystal ball and already know the future the only thing you can say for sure is probably not happening but you know in your heart still get chance.

Told my friend that while I was on the mainland, I bought lottery tickets. His son laughed and said what are the odds of winning? My friend interjected “your odds are 0 if y0u don’t play.” We still get chance? Gotta take it.

Wake up everybody! Not going to happen! Fire everybody and start allover. Fire Stadium authority too! Come on IGE, UH needs help. Would not have too much problems is they could operate the Stadium! Too many people making a profit from UH and not UH. Whats the DEAL!! Jon Burns is turning over in his grave I tell you!! Maybe we should allow people to donate to UH athletics in lieu of state taxes. EHHH! $2 from state tax payers from A thru L in odd years and M thru Z in the even years might help and make it madantory. Lets be creative. Plus, like I said before, raise the student activities fee and if they dont like it they can go to HPU, CHAMINADE, HEALD COLLEGE, PHOENIX UNIVERSITY, HAWAII HILO OR SOME EL CHEAPO mainland college. Whats the big deal! I used to pay 47 cents a gallon for Custom Supreme gas and now I pay $3.7something for some lousy supreme that has corn in it. GEE WHIZ!!!

Could someone please explain the MWC scenario again please? I missed it the first 75 times people explained it here today.

Kev1, Here it is (corrected version): If Hawaii beats FSU, then Hawaii is 4-4 in the conference, Fresno will also be 4-4 in the conference after their loss to us, and if SJSU beats SDSU, then SDSU will be 4-4 in the conference. If UNLV beats Nevada, then Nevada is eliminated at 3-5 in the conference. So there is a three way tie Hawaii, Fresno, and San Diego State all at 4-4. The tie breaker rules eliminate one or more teams until only two teams are tied starting first with winning percentage among the three tied teams, but we are still tied under this rule, then it goes to winning percentage in the Division and we are 3-2, Fresno is 3-2, but SDSU is 2-3, so they are eliminated. That leaves us tied with Fresno– at this point the two team tie rules apply and we win the tie breaker with Fresno on our head to head win over Fresno.

Opinion – No way in heaven or earth will UH win their division. The odds of that happening is about the same as Custer beating Sitting Bull in a rematch.

Fact – UH is still in contention for the division title.

Opinion – There are many who hope UH will beats the odds. But few believe it will happen.

Fact – There are people who won’t acknowledge UH still get chance.

Champ #96 I love u man!!!!! Now just a note on the screens that do not work. The “sell by the OL and Rb are key. Must sell downfield pass…Qb sets and then drifts or gives ground to draw rush creating separation. Most screens are lobs over Oncoming rush. It is all about timing……it has not been there. Now in order for a win this week no less than 28 points on O….D must get to Burrell and slow down run game….they have a chance but Fresno needs this to make post season. Go WARRIORS!!!!