In search of short-term answers
Let’s look at the small picture.
There are four regular-season games remaining. Forget the offseason, or next year, or even three weeks from now. What does UH need to do to beat Colorado State on the road?
Ikaika Woolsey actually had his best statistical game against Utah State, throwing for 356 yards. Quinton Pedroza caught eight passes for 123 yards. Keelan Ewaliko showed he was a vertical threat — once — on a 54-yard catch. But the Warriors committed too many penalties, most notably the one that nullified Scott Harding’s punt return for a touchdown. Of UH’s 79 offensive plays, 16 required the Warriors to go at least 11 yards for a first down, including five first-and-long situations. The defense allowed a true freshman to complete his first 12 passes, including all 11 in the first half, and another true freshman to rush for 150 yards.
Again, forget long term. What does UH need to do this week?
The sun rose again!
What do they need to do to beat CSU?
Run it. Run it. Roll out pass (not necessarily in that order). Punt. Oh wait, that’s Norm Chow’s answer.
My answer? Heck, who knows. Just do something different. Anything.
Recruit like crazy.
pay the refs.
Figure out a way to punch the ball in when in opponent’s territory, say within 30 yards or so of the goal line.
Don’t rough the kickers.
Try not to commit false start penalties.
Try not to give up fumbles for TD’s
Try to improve pass defense.
Catch the balls better, someone said some passes were dropped.
Throw some passes with more accuracy.
( Don’t believe radio commentators who said UH has a better chance because a 4th string QB was starting )
UH only gave up 7 points in the 2nd half.
Joey, Joey and more Joey.
Put in some set running plays for Woolsey.
First of all, props to all of the Warrior players for putting it on the line week after week in spite of a lot of adversity.
Play Beau Reilly now. Let him get some live action – the future is now.
Put Keenan Ewaliko at QB – a la Blaine Gaison (79-80).
Move Ben Clarke back to center.
I thought that the offensive had been a strength, but yesterday’s performance shot that. How many off-sides have the UH centers been called for this season? Fifth year senior linemen being called for off-sides. Chop blocks.
Start recruiting the State of Texas – many more talented high school and even JUCO players than the BCS schools can sign. Direct flights from HNL to Houston.
Ben Jay needs to get on the phone and put together a short-list of capable and experienced head coaching candidates. Recruiting for 2015 or salvaging what’s left of it will be the key, motivating factor.
Fans need to direct their anger and frustration to people who actually have a say in the hiring and firing of the head coach (not radio/TV play by play announcers, your family, your dog, next door neighbor, drivers who don’t signal when turning, etc).
Well ST I appreciate your point about this week and the short term perspective. And while it is important that preparations are made the longer term solution is what is currently relevant. This season is done. We may win a game or two more and I hope we do. But what is needed now is VERY thoughtful planning about the way forward.
Norm Chow is unable to win football games. I don’t really care about why this is (age, stubbornness, lack of football acumen, poor assistant coaches, bad luck etc. etc) it is not really relevant except as a way of kicking him when he is down or supporting him in the midst of his failure. For those who want to engage in that discussion it is fine but to me it is time to look ahead.
Ben Jay and the wizards behind the curtain now need to behave intelligently and strategically. They cannot make the same assinine mistakes they are making with the basketball program. When a change in needed strategic thinking is needed. You do not have to destroy a program when making needed changes. Discussions about a replacement coach need to happen now and it is probably best that NC is removed of his duties now. This sets up a change of staff that can try to preserve the recruiting year and try to retain those recruits already committed by at least letting them know what the new coaching regime will look like.
I have little faith that the leadership at UH has this capacity. They may have world class expertise in narrow academic areas but that does not qualify them to understand the world of college athletics. Putting people like that in decision making posts for the athletic dept is just plain dumb. BJ demonstrated a long time ago that he is either not in charge or unable to assert himself (eg. name change situation: we are the warriors well, no we’re the rainbow warriors).
So yes the game against Colorado State is relevant but the relevance pales in comparison for the need for intelligent leadership as our ship continues to sink.
I don’ think that Coach Naeole’s position meeting this week will be of the warm and fuzzy variety.
Heck, getting rid of Chow and naming an interim coach could be a short term answer. Maybe the players will play up under different leadership?
I don’t buy the argument that coaches fighting on the sidelines is “no big thing.”
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Hard to remain positive. Beat Colorado State? Not a chance. You can’t fix overnight what ails the football team. Think about it. The losses started 2 and a half years ago and except few a few wins, it has looked the same, smells the same with the same results. And Ben Jay continues to sit on the pot. Change? Need to start at the top.
Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.
Whew! what a busy, busy, past week.
Warriors fought but didn’t win out but I know each and everyone of them will be back on the field ready for battle this week.
Coach Chow has been taking a lot of bullets as of late but I do know he doesn’t coach all the players or positions. The only thing that’s been a constant is the support from all of the true Tsaikos!
IMUA WARRIORS!
CSU, like USU is another example of what happens when the university administration makes a renewed commitment to athletics. I get the impression that many in the UH Upper Campus administration, like the previous president, would love to see the football program just go away. It’s a very sad state of affairs.
“Players sleeping on cots during fall camp? Eh, think of it as a camping trip.”
Thinking back over NC’s time at UH. Is there a UH football game that was played that any of the fans left satisfied? Lamar? But they are a small school. Cheerleaders and people who don’t know the game don’t count.
I do hope that they have only football people that understand the “now” game on the selection committe to hire a new coach. We cannot have another coach who goes by the philosity of 3 yards and a cloud of dust or “pro style” because it would be hard to recruit that type of players to Hawaii. Maybe at Ohio State or Michigan but not Hawaii.
Everybody relax about the coaching sideline discussion. This ain’t Pop Warner! hehe
No. 15 — How about the Wyoming game, we won 38-28 .
Wyoming blasted Fresno St. 45- 17 yesterday.
islandman~ you right. How quickly I forgot. Maybe it was from the disapointments that followed. Any others?
Replace slow big receiver with Ewaliko. Force teams to cover his speed. I can see using big receiver if he was a physical player like Jason Rivers but he is not. Need to have him develop more physically. Sorry but Lakalaka is not a pass blocker. I don’t know why they leave him in there to pass block. Our runningbacks overall need to improve on this. It is not about the size of the blocker. I remember JJ saying how Michael Brewster was one of his best blocking backs. As a former oline coach said about blocking it is all about want to.
Everybody just talking. JUST DO IT ALREADY!!!
The roughing the kicker penalty was the single dumbest thing I have seen a Hawaii player do. The punter was at the back of the end zone. You just need one guy to make sure he kicks it (and a fake from the rear of the end zone is unlikely). Even with no return, we have the ball in very good field position. It .represents to me all that is wrong with Hawaii football – no discipline and no coaching.
You know you’re in deep trouble when you’re bleeding all over and you have to second guess where you have to stop the bleeding first.
Wasn’t there a roughing the kicker penalty against Nevada, too? If it’s the same player, that player needs to be held out for a couple of games.
Aloha mai kakou – Mr. Tsai, Tsaikos, other UH supporters. I’m a longtime reader, first time poster, all the time UH lover.
Here is something that we UH fans, supporters and critics can do this week….
Since many of us suspect a lot of decisions and indecisions are originating somewhere at the top, here’s a chance to kindly and constructively participate in a conversation with the current Manoa Chancellor. The content below was an email sent to all faculty, student and staff of UH – Manoa.
Email start:
You are invited to a Campus-wide Conversation with UHM Chancellor Robert Bley-Vroman on Monday, November 3, from noon to 1 p.m. in the Kuykendall Auditorium.
The topic of discussion will be UH Manoa’s responsibilities as an educational institution.
The gathering will be live-streamed.
See the Events calendar listing at http://www.hawaii.edu/calendar/manoa/2014/11/03/25284.html?et_id=33320.
Email end.
Even if we cannot attend in person, we can watch for an hour and see what direction our beloved University is headed with current leadership. It’s a day before election day and another way to make our vote (voice) heard.
I am with all of you everyday posters and non-posters (who just read the blog) who hurt in these dark times. I believe in and support all of your opinions no matter what, for this is our University of Hawaii – past, present and more importantly the future. It’s a kakou thing. Let’s all continue to support our University in our own unique individual way.
Malama Pono.
me thinks to much have been said about the ‘4th string’ QB..
JUST BECAUSE HE WAS 4TH ON THE DEPTH CHART…DOES NOT MEAN HE HAS NO TALENT…
he is only a freshman.. n proved his worth…that is why they signed him to a scholarship…he just had a chance to play n showed his mettle..
we have 4th string…just that…he cant get in the game…n given a chance to show his ‘stuff’…
short term is…those 2 or 3 accused of bullying.. should not travel…
defensive player who swore at clune… should not travel..
guess ‘thugs’ rule up there…n they are not all same page ne more…
ikaika had his best game…
n we had our worst loss….is there sumthing to that ?
21. Hodad. On the player’s interview last nigh, Lance Williams said the punter was about 5 ? yards closer to the line of scrimmage than usual due to Utah St. being so backed up near the goal line. And they practice blocking punts, but he said the UH player should have avoided smashing into the punter.
btw … this is the second week in a row that Lance Williams has said that the players need to decide if they like the game or love the game. I think he is alluding to some players having given up.
HO DAD… “no discipline and no coaching” YOU SPOT ON WITH THAT…
re: yesterday’s post #145 by “Just Asking”.
Norm’s post game interview was very terse, i don’t blame him, what can he say more ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCSo610Cb6A&feature=youtu.be&list=UUIdMh3LfMj9yEjM6t3B6m6A
Treat Chow like he treated the players when his highness set foot on campus. The experiment is over and I wonder where all those defenders of “Chow time” are? It is a tragedy how he treated the players and that he has brought the program to the brink of being eliminated.
Hazing, abusive uncaring communication with young men that are busting their butts to compete is why he has failed. He is justt a mean mormon ooops meant “moron”……
If losing a game by 21 points comes down to one mistake midway through 3rd quarter, then things are pretty dicey to begin with. This was game 9 of season 3, with a total of 3 conference wins. Pointing to one play or player doesn’t seem valid.
I think this is a moot question. Two things: Norm Chow has said over and over that he doesn’t read the comments, doesn’t hear the boos, etc., so even though there may be good suggestions here – one, he won’t read them; and two, he has demonstrated an incredible amount of stubbornness. Even if he were to hear a good suggestion and know it is a good suggestion in his head, his pride wouldn’t allow him to change the way he has been running things. He is going to continue on this same course not only until the ship is sunk, but it until it reaches the bottom of the deepest depths of the ocean. There is no turning back as long as Norm is head coach.
I can tell everyone here why we are losing. It’s becuz everyone on the team doesn’t believe in chows play calling. This causes each player trying to do something extra and makes them think a little more. If we can get new leadership in that the players believe in then and only then will the team start winning
Well it has been a lifetime the last three years with Chow. Where are his supporters?????? He changed the face of Hawii spirit and the football team went somewhat competative they were #1 in the league when our son was recruited by Mac to this day at LAST in the leaguue 3 years running. Chow came on campus and desimated the team. He got rid of recruites and anyone who wasn’t up to his ridiculous standards……..wait what standards??? this man had NO experience with a head coach position. His cruel old style tactacts of hazing and ridicule of players in an effort to recruit his own island team has backfired on him and he has destroyed a once fine program…………..where are the Chow supporters now.
x2 with #8.
My Fresno Team got blown out by Wyoming we all are struggling.
lets face it the only reason they letting norm chow finish the season is because he is a local boy, great guy, not so great head coach at this time. the economics of uh isnt set up for success, its going to take an great coaching staff just to be a average football team because you already are behind the curve- poor recruiting budget facilities etc… we should a donate a 1.00 of our paycheck to na koa- if the whole state does it we be a nice bonus
#31. Re.:Chow supporters
They were too busy calling anyone willing to question Chow and his methods Trolls. Remember…ITT.
I wanted to believe in Chow. BUT the players deserve better. I only started blogging the for several months. But, I use to read all the comments to anyone who dared to question Norm Chow during his 1st year in 2012. Where are Chow supporters?…
I guess we all were Chow supporters at the start. But, 19k. Let’s see if attendance can reach 5K. That way they can justify downsizing.
“Again, forget long term. What does UH need to do this week?”
Nero would fiddle.
Pat Hayden would install an interim coach.
After 3 years of failing in the search for “short-term answers”, 2 (not 3, sorry) conference wins and 18 losses, good dental hygiene is always important.
bench Nequan Phillips… Put Henderson as his replacement.. Start Ewaliko… Throw some screen plays… Go back to the 4-3 defense.. Bad thing about the 3-4 is that you don’t really get pressure on the QB without blitzing.. Utilize our TE’s more in the offense.. Put in Anguay as well.. I’m sorry but Marcus Kemp isn’t cutting it…
What UH needs to do right now is come in my back yard here in LA and get TALENTED studs from my INSPIRING teaching and recruiting efforts !
Signed 811 high school and junior college students filling out interest cards to UH at various college fairs that upper campus e-mail me like clock work to volunteer my efforts. USC and UCLA reps regret seeing me as they both know I bring the ALOHA!
Since early February through May 2014 I sent over 30 athletes to uh athletic dept from my efforts at various college fairs with 17 of them football STUDS !
I even indicated on the card who they are what sport they play thorough my brief conversation with them. To this day cards are thrown in the trash or ignore from upper campus sending them over to indicated athletic sport office. Heck, I even got connected to the UH football recruiting coordinator, left a detail message who I was and what I am doing for UH upper campus and the coach NEVER called me back !
There is no excuse for this as JJ took advantage from my uh former bow Frank Strong who got you Greg Salas as he is the MAN down in Chino and you see the results from it. Your former players will always be your best asset and there are plenty of us out there that are HEAVILY connected with young athletes . I have now a 6’5″ sixth grader that wears a shoe size 15 and run the 40 in 4.3 seconds. How I know I am his PE Teacher and he is dunking the ball left or right handed. His first love FOOTBALL and believe me after my conditioning program he will be a LEGIT division one level player with grades as I teach at a college charter middle school sixth, seventh, eighth graders and believe me I have some young talented studs that are natural athletes with college prep classes !
One thing for sure USC and UCLA know my abilities as they have a college representative coming on campus legit setting up their table display to recruit students to their perspective colleges. What makes them so NERVOUS they know I am from Hawaii and I know the rules of the NCAA policy recruiting younger athletes. They come out and watch my conditioning / sport programs and are AMAZE of what they see. Personal business cards are offered with tickets next weekend to UCLA / UTAH game at the Rose Bowl that I and Mrs. Rainbow Cliff will be attending. Won’t ALLOW none of my young studs to attend any of their games with a CHARTER BUS both schools are willing to provide. I have the support from both Principal, Dean Of Discipline and College Guidance Counselor directing there PE programs. Next year they are building a GYMNASIUM for me as Normandie and Raymond Avenue are full of ATHLETES both male and females!
Can’t do NO more for you as I have been PREACHING this same old sermon on this blog for years so UNTIL you get a Coach at UH who acknowledge former athletes who are WILLING to help you the results you see will be the same.
Stupid is as Stupid does !
Defense has to be able to stop the run period! Make the offense one dimensional… Do that and we’ll beat CSU
And replace Chow.. I been a Chow supporter but he’s not producing.. And why haven’t we offered a scholarship to Milton Mckenzie.. Vavae Malepeai & Tua Tagovailoa?? And the multiple studs balling for the Kahuku Red Raiders Defense? C’mon UH! Don’t let his players leave the rock!!
*These*
During my years at UH (I think I’m about the same age as ST), we drew 41000 for Abilene Christian. Any big name opponent would be a sell out. It’s pretty sad that we struggle to get 20000. There are more empty seats than fans…that’s a sad testimony. BJ, you need to act NOW. Short-term, put in an interim head coach and start building for next year. This year is a lost season, again. I’m tired of hearing the proverbial…we are playing for pride now. Pride doesn’t win games. And UH is not winning. The Chow experiment should be recognized as a failure for 3 consecutive years of perenial losing. No one is questioning his effort but the bottom line, it isn’t translating into W’s. Make a change NOW or you will continue to erode the disenchanted fan base.
play with…
Discipline
Fire
Guys who will bust their okole on every down.
Play an all freshman online except for Ben Clarke. Chung, Wa’a, Tupai, Allen, Koloamatangi. Unga at tight end.
…nuff said
Well Gangee….in laymen’s terms–the writing is the wall.
So as for the future, well the past has already dictated much of what is about to transpire for our beloved bows. Excuse me for being a tad esoteric, but alas perhaps the ancient revered ones can help us in parsing down and understanding what has occurred. Plato, in his dialogue Alcibíades (circa 390 BC), uses the expression ta esô meaning “the inner things”, and in his dialogue Theaetetus (circa 360 BC) he uses ta exô meaning “the outside things. Ahhh, whaa dat mean fo us guys boola?
Simply, Chow is merely the outside of many other deficiencies within the rather awkward and painfully inept UH administration. So, while he may have been the wrong guy at the wrong time, he is but one cog in this puttering machinery. So, at this point, I’m much more concerned and exasperated with the “inner things”, as it proves the capacity, or lack thereof, and framework for things to be corrected and in the long term productive.
But, as always just my two cents…,
Play the same ole same, you will get the same results. We have seen the same ole things 9 games into the season. Is Joey going to play this week and is he healthy? Either way, play Beau Reilly and get him all the first team reps this week.
Play calling. Go for the big plays when they are in plus territory. Who knows, if the receivers do a good job acting they can create some pass interference calls. Do more reverses, man in motion, deception. Time for Harding to do a fake punt and run for a first down or pass. My point, what do you have to lose at this point. And another thing, 2 times we had 3rd and 1 and both times we passed and both times
it was incomplete. I mean what kind of play calling is that. Run the ball to pick up the first down. My God!
I love my team. But somebody’s got to have the b……s to be a leader and say, enough is enough after 3 years and go in a different direction, and I don’t mean Djou either.
June jones would say, the best defense is a good offense.
#28 post game classic Norm Chow……..was he even at the game his flipant attitude towards the players and the reporters. Of course he has no answers…….he doesn’t know anything!!!!!! He said they played their hearts out!! I beleive that they played their hearts out under leadership that could care less. He is so arrogant and rude!!! what a classless person
sorry rainbow… one glaring error…last line…
VON APPEN…IS.. AS VON APPEN DOES……maybe like the movie ” Twins”
same nomenclature … same results…
you know ur spot on… same goes for the AD….
don’t worry.. wait till next year….
short term…long term…no term…
maybe in this case..them dudes up there are making like a ‘junken po to find out who will replace him he he he
for me.. when ron lee left..i had a hunch..we be in trouble…then when cal left.. i knew we would be in big trouble…they are all ‘friends’ but different styles n Philosophies…
for me…running will open up the passing…is CAPITAL BS…
how about Passing will open up the running game…
when teams play a JJ …CAL OR RON LEE TEAM….they know the ball will fly all game long..they have to really prepare for that…they they will be in a game…this team not so…very rare balls go down field much past 20 yards…that is a problem…one of many on offense…
think back when schroeder was back there…bombs all game long…but at least they were fans in the stands…even with losses…not to many 3’s n outs.. more like 2’s n extra point…seems that way ne way…
Hawaii needs to pass more on early downs, pick up the tempo, and have more creative runs like we had early in the game.. Fake hand off to fullback, pitch to St Juste. Reverse, fake reverse, etc. Woolsey is much more effective passing on earlier downs. And what is wrong with our O line and Afusia snap infractions?? Those mistakes are high school level… Can’t have that
On the plus side, the traffic to the stadium was non-existent 2 hours before kickoff. There were plenty of parking stalls. So why spend $200 or so for Inner Circle parking? We sat in our seats, but there were plenty of good seats. Some fans might just get cheap season tickets and find good seats during the game though. So why pay for premium seating? … another good question might be “When will the perpetual fiddling create supply/demand realities that will drive revenues to unprecedented lows?”
USU coach said that his dline was able to shut down our running game making us one dimensional. Our oline still a problem.
Jeezy, I want your opinions.
1) would you play Reilly? Why or why not?
2) would you want a coaching change now?
3) if yes to 2, release him now or after the season (knowing how Hawaii takes so long to hire somebody).
I value your thoughts. Thanks.
Good morning everyone!
…this is a greeting, not to be taken literally in the UH football realm. 🙁
Wow–we have advertising in the middle of the blog now? Right between ST’s entry and the blog comments. Tacky.
Maybe this is what UH administration really wants to do. BJ is just following orders.
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/headlines/20100505-Huge-garden-helping-Paul-Quinn-College-7246.ece
Anyone know why Dejon Allen was benched in the second half? Didn’t appear to be injured.
But in my view that was the cause of the second half O woes. Lloyd was getting overpowered AND out quicked. Then when Shigematsu got hurt, Lloyd shifted to T and Lefotu came in at G and drew a penalty on his first snap.
Whatever happened to Waa and Tupai?
Nice change of subject…
http://www.si.com/college-football/2014/10/28/college-football-playoff-marcus-mariota-inside-read?page=2&devicetype=default
Allen was injured.
Hire ex-UH players.
ie. June Jones as AD
Rolo as Coach
Rainbow Cliff as Recruiting Director (Mainland)
_________ as local Recruiting Director
etc. etc.
short term:
Gary Dickman said that Chow didn’t know where to play Ewaliko.
Wide reviecer, you play him at wide receiver. I don’t give a rats butt if he doesn’t know the offense 100%. I don’t think Woosley makes good QB decisions 100% of the time so let’s just cut the crap and play Ewaliko more.
Tired of excuses that have kept him out of the game. #FreeEwaliko
1. No. Woolsey has improved a lot over this season. He is not the problem. Coaching, WR play, play calling is a bigger issue. O line was biggest problem vs Utah St. Wrs played pretty good this game but haven’t played good most of the season. Reilly hasn’t played football in 2 years… I really don’t think he is close to ready…
2. Yes. Chow has proven he doesn’t have what it takes. Get rid of him now, let Clune be interim HC to see what he can do with the team. Clune signed a 2 year deal if I remember correctly.
3. Release him now. We are already guaranteed a losing season. Whats point in keeping Chow? Attendance continuing to drop. I actually think some fans might show up if Chow is released. Lot of boycotters out there I know of that won’t go to games until Chow is gone.
RainbowCliff, I really appreciate your post which provides another insight into the Chow era. I am just amazed his staff has not had the interest, nor courtesy to contact you. But then again, you’re a UH alumnus, not BYU or Utah. Go Hawaii Utes !!! Ahhhhhh…..Cougars?
Woolsey has made strides in recent games. However, he is still pretty late in his decision making. Even on pass completions, the receivers have to stop and wait for the ball to get there too often. He is late on his reads, delaying the completion and allowing the defender to close in. That is why it always looks like our receivers are covered so tightly. That isn’t always necessarily the case. If they was better anticipation by the QB, the receivers could be hit in stride and have a better chance at some YAC.
iwonderwhytheyhateme….yea me agree you that one..
2 to 3 years from now…people will be saying..what a wasted year he had as freshman..only being used as a ‘spot’ player at different positions…
really wasting away talent…
And there is absolutely no reason why mainland schools are offering local boys FIRST. I understand that Tua Tagovailoa is an underclassman, but he has already been offered by a PAC12 school. No excuse for that kind of stuff. Even if the player has not intention of going to UH. You still offer. There are local boys that do want to at least consider staying home and playing for family here. At least make it a consideration.
61. He has absolutely no time to throw. He was scrambling for his life last night.
64. That is true. I still think he may be over thinking in the pocket too, though. When there is one, that is.
My 2 cents. Get receivers with good hands that use them to catch the ball. Kemp is not one of these, he uses his body primarily and he his slow off the line. Need a HC that can make adjustments at the half and stops trying to play not to lose.
#17, the Wyoming HC is a proven winner with a lot of experience as a head coach. He has 3 NCAA Championships before moving up @ Wyoming. His system and philosophy taking place. Big difference from Chow, his inexperience as a leader is really telling to date.
Saw CSU @ SJSU game yesterday. Warrior’s chances kinda slim with past results compared to the Rams. CSU QB leads a proficient control passing offense; he is very accurate, good touch and makes all the throws. Throw in an excellent running back and the Warrior D has a big challenge at a little altitude.
I used to be a season ticket holder for 32 years and had to quit because of my work schedule. It is a shame that the Von Wat Happen era has made a resurgence under Chow.
ne one with a suggestion.. or want to help ..is a ‘nut job’ to them..many on here say they have sent e-mail etc.. n no reply…
dang they have secretaries..that is what they are there for…at least acknowledge the effort put forth by fans n friends…
I was very critical of Woolsey’s play the 1st 5 games of the season… With the exception of Washington because he played decent that one. But I give him credit for improving a lot since IMO. He’s not a good QB by any means but the progress I see gives me hope that his confidence is going up and the game is slowing down a little. The coaches can’t go conservative anymore and need to let him try win some games early with throws… He made the throws early vs Utah St. then we get conservative and penalties screwed us. He is starting to put touch on some throws though ..
Stop the almost getting sacked and throw the ball away play.
short-term and long-term solution – replace chow now!! while you at it, replace bj now too.
Give Clune the HC job and Chow up in the booth calling the plays.
short term…get rid of Chow now. lets face it Chow, good/great coaches win games. it doesn’t matter who they playing, where they playing, the assistant coaches they got, the players, the facilities. again good coaches win games. Sorry Chow you’re not one of them. i’ll still support the UH, still buy my season tickets…but i do not support Chow.
me not think clune is the answer right now…
Unless UH get all new players for next weeks game then there will be no short term solution. This is what we get for the rest of the season, it is what it is.
wow. jamming ads in the middle of the blog site, and not even setting the ads to run on silent. classy. i guess the blog and star advertiser needs to monetize somehow.
Of course messages are ignored when sent to the wrong email address.
Try benjay@hawaii.edu
Some great offensive coaches do not make good head Coaches. #71 may have a point. Paying off Chow is worth it if a new HC can bring fans back. After every game it’s “I (we) have to coach better”.” We (I) have to make better decisions. “We (I) have to play better.” “We (I) have to play harder”. How about playing smarter, not harder? Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is the definition of insanity.
Make Harding Special teams coach next year.
Maybe we can borrow Gib Arnold from the Basketball team. He already is getting a salary.
#57 IpuMan: Right On Bruddah Man !
Upper campus is having a field day with my recruiting results. Previously just 4 College Fairs and I signed 811 high school and junior college students. That comes out to 202 students per fair in only FOUR hours with visible known colleges and universities right next to me. Even had their reps come up asking me “how can I come and become a bow”!
Already book for Santa Monica College Fair, LA High School, South Bay and Mira Costa. UH upper campus takes care of me with various thank you cards and plenty of UH wear and merchandise. Ate VIP at UHAA San Diego Tail Gate. Got introduced publicly to all fans in attendance as I stood up to an appreciative display of affection from a large UH supporting audience. That felt real good as in all reality that is want we want as former players to be appreciated to our love for our alma mater.
Got the PASSION for it and can judge/recruit talented athletes !
All my efforts has lead me to nomination for the Distinguished Alumni Award 2015. First ever student athlete from the mainland to bestowed this honor. Hopefully I can win a spot of 6 winners to be named after the New Year.
Got a lot of supporters who are writing on my behalf. I feel good for all of my work helping UH and what I do here at Al Wooten. Hope the selection committee feels the same. Going against some heavy hitters but I can hit too with lasting results.
22 years of professional service with out ONE day being absent from the task at hand. Dedication, Compassion, Professionalism at it’s highest. All learned at the University Of Hawaii At Manoa !
Imua Warriors !
Multiple ads playing simultaneously. That is ridiculous. One is bad enough.
Good way to chase away folks.
el burro sabio… there is a e-mail address listed for all at the UHAD site… should we not use those u r saying ?
When I watch the game, it seems like the defense knows our snap count better than our offense cause it looks like they get a pretty good jump on the snap every down. Maybe we need to vary the snap count more. It also seems like our receivers don’t have a cutoff to their route if they see that the defense is blitzing. My guess is that is why Woolsey gets sacked a lot. Just a couple of observations. Go UH.
Short term, give coach Chow a family leave of absence to take care of his wife. Let someone on the current staff run the team. See how the rest of the season turns out. If at the end it’s worse, Chow’s presence “might be” appreciated more. If it turns out better, Chow “might be” willing to give his assistant coaches more latitude, and or, learn that there may be another way to run things than his alone.
The ads were irritating the hell out of me too. Go to your browsers plug-in settings and set them to “click to play” instead of “auto play.”
Here is a link to some help.
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/how-to/internet/3497991/how-stop-autoplaying-ads-videos-media-on-web-pages/
Islandman–thanks for the link. Couldn’t find it last night.
Spisskyhrad, I am a Coach Chow, Staff, Na Koa Anuenue and University of Hawaii loyal fan. Just to answer your question.
#60 hatakeman: It is a crying shame but their EGOS from there “suppose to know better then me” about recruiting athletes won’t let their pride be upstaged by a former player of yesterday years. Not mad at them as feel sorry for them with these results for the past 3 years “LOSING PROGRAM” !
In all reality does not bother me one bit as Pac 12 conference cleans up here in LA and you see the results when we play them lost after lost after lost. Will see in the next years with UH as I only have 9 more years remaining before retirement. By that time my 6’5″ inch sixth grader will be a major division I junior talent at two sports football and basketball on course to graduate with honors. Hopefully who ever is Coach will not trash my interest cards and return my phone call.
Easy said then done !
There was no short term answer once the Titanic struck the iceberg and there is no short term answer for the football team. Only thing that can be done is to rescue as many survivors as possible and not hire the same type of Captain again.
I think one thing is to be less critical. I have been watching the Warrior march into the stadium regularly and they just seemed defeated this week. These are students and few are over 22 years of age. They are trying their best but while some of these comments are not directed at them…I am sure they are taking some personally.
Good morn..er..afte..yikers..early evening, Tsai-kos!
Aww shucks about last nite’s game 🙁
Was hoping for da win!
Well, hope they can do better for this coming Saturday’s game!
Hoping hoping hoping!
GO WARRIORS!!!
ST, the best short-term strategy to improve the team’s chances of winning its remaining games is to give the players hope. HOPE. As the cliche goes, the game is as much mental as physical, and despite all the platitudes to the contrary, the players no longer believe they can be winners with their current head coach. To give them hope, there needs to be a change at the top. Not in December, but now, despite Ben Jay’s stubborn assertion that he will wait until season-end to evaluate Coach Chow’s performance. The fans have already evaluated Coach Chow’s performance and that’s why there were fewer than 20,000 in the house last night. If that’s not ringing alarm bells, not only in the Athletic Department but in Bachmann Hall, and if no change is made as a result, then the outcome at Fort Collins and in the remaining games to follow will be no better than what we’ve already seen in this season of failure.
#87 Sharene…..I agree that the team looked demoralized last night and that critical, mean spirited comments are not helpful. I feel for the players as they have been through a lot and have almost nothing to show for it. This is sad. I also feel for coach Chow. Failure is difficult and painful. But, in my humble view, it is time for a change. It is unrealistic to think things will be different moving ahead. We can move ahead and make a change in a dignified and respectful manner or we can find ourselves in some sort of chaotic and dysfunctional situation that will be harder to recover from. I appreciate that coach Chow tried. Personally I thank him for this. But I think it is time for desisive action and change. I even think such desisive action can be undertaken with respect and aloha. But I also recognize that I am not in a position to implement this strategy and that those who are don’t care what I think. Nonetheless I do appreciate your comments.
Rainbow Cliff,
It is a good thing you are the UH side
Making plans for next year’s UH/UNLV game and the UHLWC hosting the Friday night pre-game event!!
Can some tuna. Nope.
Make p&j sandwhiches. Nope.
Can norm. Not bad.
Frankly. Don’t see what can he done. Norm won’t allow it.
So. Back to square one. Can tuna or can norm.
He he he.
The way I see it, BJ ought to let go of Chow. The more BJ does nothing he guarantees himself a job he will be terminated also….unless that’s his goal? Maybe his goal has changed from trying his best to make a difference to seeing that nothing he tries will work in Hawaii because of the old boy network and culture. Maybe BJ is wanting to get fired too so he can have a buy out?
Nah, cannot be. but I did lose faith in BJ when he went wishy washy from warriors to rainbows. I knew then and there his vision would be blurred to what others want.
I lost faith in Chow as well this season. If we lose we lose. However, please show improvement. If we keep losing and there’s no improvement and no changes in how the team plays the game, then 100% that’s on the head coach.
Short fast answers for this team…yes, go behind closed doors, make a deal with Chow, bring in new energy, and I’m sure the boys will respond. I know Chow means well. Although sometimes as hard as it is personally, for the greater good it may be tine to step down as HC.
In the end I don’t think it’s likely Chow will be remembered as the winningest coach of all time. I don’t think he will be remembered as a turned it around coach either. Basically, it’s all negative and I do feel for the man. That’s why I hope Chow can make the decision to walk away before someone makes that decision for him. At last if he makes that decision first, I’m sure the people will support him more then ever. I know I will.
#76 el burro, the problem is we got to get rid of him too.
RE: #82
Thanks Kev-1!
Darn, those autoplay videos are annoying!
I found another site on turning off the autoplay. It has links for older version of SAFARI too– two “extensions” (see Safari preferences) to control all autoplay and Flash autoplays…
http://www.addictivetips.com/web/stop-auto-play-in-chrome-firefox-opera-safari-and-ie/
Interim Chancellor vroman@hawaii.edu
For those who are still thinking of boycotting MBB, reconsider.
From warrior insider:
Thomas said he realizes that there are many disgruntled fans and followers of the team, but the players are still looking for support at home games.
“We love you guys, we want you to cheer us on,” he said. “We’re behind you as much as you guys are behind us.”
SteveM and Kev-1 neither of these worked for IE, when you refresh or come back to the blog page the autoplay kicks in.
They NEED a new HEAD COACH. NOW, forget long term.
#7 “Old School Dave”…agree w/ your last 2 paragraphs. Don’t forget though that there are also nonstop flights Honolulu to Dallas-Ft Worth. I was on one a few weeks ago. Texas is great recruiting grounds and while we may not get the 4 or 5 star guys we might get lucky with a good 3 star recruit.
#39 “Warrior Fan”…I saw Mac Milton’s dad in Sept. and we had a chance to “wala’au” a little. One of the first questions I asked him was has UH been in contact with Mac and he said no
sharene: i doubt that any of the players spend their time reading this blog and following it. And if they do happen to scroll through every now and then, I’m skeptical that they go back to their dorm rooms, weep, and talk to their moms about it. If the players look dejected and demoralized (and yeah, they’re not professionals, but they’re adults, not high school kids), it probably has more to do that the program is 6-27 over the past three seasons and can’t win games than any specific “mean spirited” comments on this blog.
#91 Doctor Don: I am there Mr Fisherman and the Sea !
Will have my turbo ready to ride as this year is DONE !
Now IF you are at San Jose or Fresno will drive down to support you once again. Had a GREAT time with you in San Diego. Just love watching you make the rounds to each table. NO one can touch your oratorical skills !
Stay well and stay in touch !
The good news – we still got 4 games left. The bad news – we still got 4 games left.
Re #73
Totally agree with Jeezy. Ikaika may never be a great D1 QB, but he HAS shown improvement during the course of the season.
Again, the Oline was horrible in the second half last night.
Re #107
Yeah, because when you’re dealing with adversity a bunch of idiots yelling at you and saying “you suck” is always helpful.
The only thing more helpful than that is when your kid is dealing with adversity and a bunch of idiots are yelling at him and saying he “sucks”.
You do know that family members read this blog right?
Not my blog, but you’re welcome to go back to WSN yesterday as far as I’m concerned.
von Chow is such a sour puss. 3 seasons and every Saturday night makes me miserable for the rest of the week then the cycle starts all over again. Hard to be optimistic when we know BJ will not move. Come on UH AD give us some hope and fire the guy. You look at Chow and you can see he never wants to take responsibility. It is never his fault better coaching turns into better execution. Mistakes are getting worse.
UH can win this weekend if CSU forfeits the game. However, I don’t anticipate that will occur. Therefore, UH will not prevail this weekend.
If UH wants to win, they need to actually take advantage of Woolsey’s mobility and make him a threat to run. For a QB with running ability and an offense that struggles, they don’t use him nearly enough on read-options and such to make the defense have to account for him. I dunno if this would be the difference between winning and losing any of the next four games, but it would be a better use of resources. If they never intended him to be a rushing threat, they should never had made him the starter in the first place.
After watching it over and over again and using my very below average lip reading skills, I am pretty sure that Chow told Demo at one point during their argument … “bye, you’re fired!” Right when he made the brushing off motion with his hand. Try check um. We need more drama to talk about.
frustrated old man…he should pack it up.. n make shibai… care 4 my wife… but really that is what he should do…
hey FJ…u know the words of Aloha ‘Oe…?? me 4 got to old..
Seemed like Utah St. was blitzing on every down.
Why didn’t we do plays to slow down this pressure–like bubble screens like they did to us (seemed like they gained 8+ yards each time)–when we ran the screen to our TE, it was right “up the middle” into the blitz. Or swing passes to our RB coming out of our backfield? Or fly-sweeps?
Also their trick play worked (lateral pass; then pass back to the other side for a TD) because our offense never does this in practice–and probably don’t have this in their playbook; BECAUSE OUR OFFENSE TO TOO PREDICTABLE WITH NO CREATIVITY WHATSOEVER!
Get Chow off the field now.
If they don’t want to pay him off, he can teach classes: Losing 101, Stubbornness 201, Excuses 301, Mormon Nepotism 401. He could have a full schedule teaching!
Short term? Run wide more to set up the counter play– we need more misdirection in our running attack with someone like DSJ or Ewaliko. If they start to stop the counter we go wide– simple, basic misdirection like USU, SDSU, and Rice did to us. Cannot stubbornly keep running the inside zone with Lakalaka (or Joey).
Add something like the bubble screen that USU ran so well against us. Look at film and find the defensive alignment that we ran that let USU run the screen and look for it in CSU (or a different CSU alignment that lets us go to the flank with the bubble screen). Has Chow taught DSJ to catch yet? If so get him wide for screens and wheel routes from a hybrid back position or off motion.
Run simple patterns with Ewaliko (he should be getting better at it by now) to isolate him one on one and just foot race the DB with the upfield throw– maybe open under or other plays as CSU adjusts to the long threat of Ewaliko.
We can learn a lot from what teams have done to us– incorporate it– no shame.
#111: sure it doesn’t help, and personal attacks are one thing. but critical comments on an anonmyous online forum for a big money sport, well ,welcome to the internet in the year 2014. I’m sure if you asked players “is morale low in the locker room? why?” high on the response list probably won’t be “because anonymous users on warrior world are being mean and not flooding the blog with posts like ‘I BELIEEEEEVE!!!'” if they even think about what’s going on in this blog or other online forums at all.
the media is the media and the fans are the fans.
for the record, i don’t think the comments in warrior world are bad at all. unless you’re saying that “the o-line played terrible and woolsey isn’t a very good quarterback and it’ll be a miracle if he averages above a 50% completion mark this season” or “nequan philips needs to get benched. he seems to forget that he needs to cover the deep man” constitutes personal attacks and unacceptable online behavior because family members and players might get hurt feelings.
i have no idea what WSN is.
i mean dee maggit… i mean… you know what i mean.
Sidenote: USU’s defensive line coach is former UH assistant (under McMackin) and Kamehameha & UW grad Ikaika Malloe. Too bad he didn’t hang around UH for very long. Malloe shows a lot of promise as an up and coming coach.
http://www.utahstateaggies.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/030414aab.html
If we keep running like we do and cannot pass more, then we lose. We keep playing teams that run better than us and are weaker vs pass then run. So we play into their strengths and let them cover their weakness in defending the pass. Need to run as well as we can very simple misdirection– counter plays easy to add, but pass much more consistently to force teams to defend the pass and open the field more. Or we keep losing like we have to teams like Rice, San Diego State, and Utah State. Other teams find and exploit our weakness which is pass defense and we need to do the same if we expect to win.
2 and 7 record. We can still make it out of the season with a 6 and 7 record.
“I believe.”
Old School Dave–Ikaika was coaching with bruddha Semones, at boola U; actually one of the reason I took my appointment. I was really disappointed when they were let got with the previous HC. Doug is doing a great job as the HC at tiny but tony Occidental College at LA, and has they vying for their first championship in several decades.
Both those guys can coach…..
#125 – Don’t know them well, but they are good people.
GOOD MORNING, HAWAII!
Good morning Kifi!
Not sure what I believe.
But one thing I do know, you fire people at your convenience – conversely, you retain them at your convenience.
UH could go 6-7 this year if the remaining opponents forfeit their game against UH. That would be great!
say what you may about current UH football team – and all of you are probably correct to a degree
underlying question is “does BJ have the allas” to recommend letting Chow go?
neva mind about the lack of $$$ – either way, IMHO, the $$$ loss will be about the same and what about the declining fans? will they return with a new HC? it’s better than what UH has now!!!!!!!!!!
attitudes are very difficult to change – good or bad.
any takers on a wager that UH will NOT win the last 4 games?
#130 – I’ll take that wager A-House.
If by chance UH is not in the position to make a change at the HC position, given their financial situation, BJ may force changes to the staff positions, which would not create as heavy a financial burden as a contract buyout.
That may help somewhat. It may be “micromanaging” but at this point it appears that there seems to be a issue with the development of the offensive side of the ledger.
Good Morning, my fine brother Kifi!
So, as we go through this collective disappointment of the bows, it just makes the joy of success, deferred, and like all things in life–this will pass.
Oh, so while we struggle with consistent success on the O side, Boola U has this tough buggah a running back, name Varga, and dis bruddha already has 18 scoring TDs with 4 games to go…..over 100 plus points scored for a RB, in any division of play is impressive!
Joey’s suspension seemed to fly by rather quickly which, I suppose, means the season is too.
I’m not sure terminating Chow right now would be a good idea. It would be if there was a suitable interim like an experienced offensive coordinator on the staff, or there is a high-demand coach that is interested in a head coach gig and UH needs more time in the search process. I think firing Chow now would create more harm than good.
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#133 – Tyler Varga, Canadian lad. If he doesn’t make it into the NFL, then certainly will get an opportunity in the CFL.
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