Don't You (Forget About Me)

We’ll all be remembered for something.
Chawan Cut for that Dan Kelly sign. A-Joe for the C&K show. A reader for a tree.  Me? That would be apple martinis, hugging classmates who turned out not to be my classmates, and having an XXL forehead.
Each Hawai‘i governor also has left a sports legacy.
John Burns built Aloha Stadium and paved the way for UH to enter big-time athletics.
George Ariyoshi upgraded UH’s Lower Campus, building the athletic complex, Duke Kahanamoku pool and Murakami Stadium.
John Waihee built Stan Sheriff Center.
Ben Cayetano completed Phase II of the UH athletic complex.
Question: What will be Gov. Lingle’s legacy?

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Here’s Kenny Patton (carrying Finn Curran):



  1. Hoohiki February 16, 2009 11:09 am

    When is the speed and quickness coming to Maui?


  2. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:09 am

    Wow new post!

  3. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:09 am

    I don’t think that I have ever been Top 5!

  4. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:11 am

    Finn Curran is kinda…thick looking. Is that Max a little to the right of them, in the blue t-shirt?

  5. al ™ February 16, 2009 11:11 am

    glad to see st is okay.

    did you run too? or just the chaffeur?

  6. Da Punchbowl Kid February 16, 2009 11:13 am

    Top Ten!

  7. Da Punchbowl Kid February 16, 2009 11:14 am

    Are you feeling better today, Tsai?

  8. d1島 February 16, 2009 11:17 am

    Top Ten! 🙂

  9. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:17 am

    How’s the nose bleed now Stephen?

    Must be okay since you are posting today.

    How did the kids do in the race? I was thinking about how Ronnie and I probably traumatized your daughter at the Fresno State FB game. I was watching it on my DVR yesterday but then I didn’t have the end of the game!

    I’m not apologizing for the “lamest” comment I made the other night. Chawan owns that nickname so I didn’t want to offend. Apparently, chawan wants the nickname badder than the rest! 😆

  10. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:18 am

    Wow I am the only girl here right now!

  11. d1島 February 16, 2009 11:18 am

    Does GA also give demos of that Elway-esque helicopter flip into the EZ?

  12. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:19 am

    Hi guys!!

    d1: I was wondering what you were talking about but then I remembered the conversation about C_C being in the student section…forever. 😯

  13. roysan16 February 16, 2009 11:26 am

    All those youngsters smiling, some with their front tooth missing, made me smile. That picture is definitely a keeper.

  14. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 11:29 am

    hey Rob25- did you see what the boys wrote about you yesterday?

  15. Rob25 February 16, 2009 11:40 am

    Wait…someone other than ST wrote something about me?

  16. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 11:43 am

    I got stupid and blew my nose again this morning, and then I spent the next 30 minutes gurgling.
    But it’s OK now, I think.
    We’ll see during tomorrow’s video chat, if I’m staring at the ceiling the entire time.

  17. TOM February 16, 2009 11:45 am

    ST: Hope you get a chance to see your friendly MD!

    Top 20!

  18. d1島 February 16, 2009 11:59 am

    Cauterization: It’s Hot Stuff!

  19. d1島 February 16, 2009 12:01 pm

    Lingle Legacy: cupholders at Murakami Stadium?

  20. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:04 pm

    Question: What will be Gov. Lingle’s legacy?

    LInda Legacy = Heman Frazier Era

  21. chawan_cut February 16, 2009 12:05 pm

    i’m glad i can be remembered for something.

  22. Stretch February 16, 2009 12:06 pm

    February 16th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
    LInda Legacy = Heman Frazier Era

    so does that mean NOTHING??

  23. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 12:08 pm



  24. chawan_cut February 16, 2009 12:09 pm

    i had tons of nose bleeds as a kid for some reason. i had to end up going to a nose dr and got the things cauterized (i think). whatever he did, it worked. i haven’t had many nose bleeds since.

  25. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 12:10 pm

    LL- hmmm… Superferry

  26. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 12:11 pm

    LL- buffing out Aloha Stadium- and making it something the Pros love and UH can make $$ filling it up.


  27. duffer February 16, 2009 12:16 pm

    Hey ST,

    I’ll always remember you as being a nice guy, although I think we’ve only met once at Camelia’s.

  28. al ™ February 16, 2009 12:16 pm

    linda “lame duck” lingle………umm. ummm. ummmm.

  29. Rich2176 February 16, 2009 12:17 pm

    Howdy Prez Day to all.

    While most of you are taking the day off, it’s been a roller coaster ride for me the past few months. I just returned from Newport Beach on a “spy” mission for a few days for FOX, only to find out my dad is getting a brand new hip this Friday. So, it’s another weekend out of town. (Last weekend was a blast in Vegas seeing Elton John in concert for free. He put on a great show and his voice was excellent. He also had most of his original band. Every song sounded like what you heard on the radio.)

    Anyway, just wanted to pop in and say boo. I’ve only read the blog headers for the past few days, but noticed Curveball’s loss. Deepest condolences. Also, I didn’t realize it had been 7 years since ST drove himself to the hospital to save his own life. Until a few years ago, ST referred to me as the guy who said “let’s go”. He has always been good friends w/ Margo, but I’m honored to have gotten to know him better. A very generous and geniune person.

    I miss all of you and hope to be able to be back on a regular basis very soon!!

  30. al ™ February 16, 2009 12:17 pm

    st….c_c, d1, and others are correct. got to burn em. i did that too. no sore.

    and stop digging your nose!!!

  31. Kevin February 16, 2009 12:26 pm

    I wouldn’t blame Lingle for Frazier.

    As Frazier was hired by Evan Dobelle who was hired by Lingle’s predecessor Mr Cayetano (if you’re going to point the finger at the gov. for a UH hiring) back in 2001. Frazier himself was hired in 2002, but Lingle didn’t become the Gov till 12/2/2002 (according to wikipedia) which would effectively mean she had nothing to do with Frazier’s hiring.

  32. chawan_cut February 16, 2009 12:28 pm

    i just realized that the blog title is a song name

  33. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 12:31 pm

    Aloha Rich- Whew! Good to hear from you, my friend.

    I’m hoping both you and Margo can find your way back into town sometime soon.

  34. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:34 pm

    ST. Is that the Arizona Cardinal’s Aaron Francisco’s mom in today’s obituary in the HA?

  35. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:35 pm

    If it is or isn’t, my condolences to the Francisco family in La’ie.

  36. lava February 16, 2009 12:35 pm

    That’s nice how you built up what the govs pass on in terms of UH. Lingle is clueless. Insert obscenities here. Could some one would poke her with a pin and see if she’s alive, stuffed of if she’ll deflate. I’m going with deflate. She’s like a giant inflatable blow-up doll from Sensually Yours, that got drastically marked down because no one was interested. That’s not much of a legacy. If our next gov is a woman, I hope she takes an interest in education and athletics, and understands the relationship between the two at the college level. Hopefully we don’t get stuck with Mufi, who is all mochi, from brain to bells.

    But it is a nice day out. 🙂

  37. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 12:35 pm

    Theme song of the The breakfast Club (1985)

  38. al ™ February 16, 2009 12:42 pm

    c_c @#32 okay, you still lame.

  39. d1島 February 16, 2009 12:49 pm


    I noticed that obit, too.


  40. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:50 pm


    February 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    I wouldn’t blame Lingle for Frazier.

    As Frazier was hired by Evan Dobelle who was hired by Lingle’s predecessor Mr Cayetano (if you’re going to point the finger at the gov. for a UH hiring) back in 2001. Frazier himself was hired in 2002, but Lingle didn’t become the Gov till 12/2/2002 (according to wikipedia) which would effectively mean she had nothing to do with Frazier’s hiring.


    Does it irritate you that I didn’t do my homework?

  41. Rich2176 February 16, 2009 12:51 pm

    Al re:#38 – “you still lame” – Isn’t that the local title for Carly Simon’s “you’re so vain”?

  42. roysan16 February 16, 2009 12:51 pm

    This web site gives insight about the Laie community

    the message board, or Aloha center as theirs is called, has posts confirm the passing of Aaron Francisco’s mother

  43. d1島 February 16, 2009 12:54 pm

    Molly Ringwald.
    Interestingly exotic….

  44. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:54 pm

    Thanks Roysan16.

  45. Pride. February 16, 2009 12:57 pm

    By the way, that “high stepper “guy is a pretty big guy for a quarterback. Hopefully, he’ll have a decent enough year so that we can watch him in the 2010 NFL combine.

  46. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:00 pm


    February 16th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    February 16th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
    I wouldn’t blame Lingle for Frazier.

    As Frazier was hired by Evan Dobelle who was hired by Lingle’s predecessor Mr Cayetano (if you’re going to point the finger at the gov. for a UH hiring) back in 2001. Frazier himself was hired in 2002, but Lingle didn’t become the Gov till 12/2/2002 (according to wikipedia) which would effectively mean she had nothing to do with Frazier’s hiring.


    Does it irritate you that I didn’t do my homework?

    Most of what I post on the blog is done for fun and games. I apologize if I offended you.

  47. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:02 pm

    pride….that is true. it is aaron francisco’s mom obit.

  48. Jason February 16, 2009 1:05 pm

    The boy in the blue shirt at the far right — is he related at all to Kanoa Leahey? 😉

    chawan_cut: I had never heard the song before, but even I knew the title was a song. Stephen always does stuff like that. 😀

  49. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:06 pm

    more like you intimidated him rather than irritated him, i would think.
    of course, that is always subject to debate over lunch.

  50. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:07 pm

    Al, I hope that she got to see him play in the Super Bowl.

  51. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:08 pm

    Al, let’s try Japanese.

  52. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:09 pm

    i read that she was stricken a few days after coming home from the super bowl.

    now, she can watch every game.

  53. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:10 pm

    wasn’t that a david bowie song?

  54. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:11 pm

    al – let me know when lunch is, I might have to do a “site visit” on Oahu this coming week.

  55. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:13 pm

    don’t you forget about stretch and mr. potatohead.

    i wonder if nfa would hassle him if mr. potatohead made an encore appearance this year?

    if i were stretch i would. and first i would get an approval in writing from the ad. heh, heh.

  56. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:15 pm

    al ™:

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
    more like you intimidated him rather than irritated him, i would think.
    of course, that is always subject to debate over lunch.


    My daughters laugh and chuckle when they talk about me. And now I have a grandson who thinks that I’m his playmate. I don’t think that I can intimidate anyone.

  57. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:18 pm

    al ™:

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:09 pm
    i read that she was stricken a few days after coming home from the super bowl.

    now, she can watch every game.

    That’s just too bad, and unfortunate. She’s so young.

  58. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:21 pm

    tsukiji market?

  59. Kazz February 16, 2009 1:22 pm

    Seeing those kids with Kenny Patton does in fact make me think of what Linda Lingle’s legacy in Hawaii could be or won’t be.

    1) She’ll have a hand in STEALING JV sports from them.

    2) Or not.

    No doubt the whole issue of removing JV sports from PUBLIC schools will come up sooner than later.

  60. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:26 pm

    al ™:
    February 16th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
    don’t you forget about stretch and mr. potatohead.

    that was the old Stretch. The new one, who conforms to NFA standards, sits back, with hands under arse, and watches the games. No emotion, it could be viewed as taunting.

  61. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:27 pm

    No emotion?

  62. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:28 pm

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
    No emotion?

    None at all….

  63. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:28 pm

    al ™:

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    tsukiji market?

    Sounds Exciting.

  64. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:29 pm

    Just like Koakane. No emotion.

  65. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:29 pm

    imagine a stadium full of nfa’s?

    the whole stadium could hear a pin drop.
    the whole stadium could hear the coaches cussing
    or would that too be against nfa rules?

    let’s ask jd.

  66. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:30 pm

    coaches not cussing……….that’s just not football!!!

  67. Pride. February 16, 2009 1:30 pm

    Koakane = No emotion, but a little bit snoring.

  68. d1島 February 16, 2009 1:31 pm


    February 16th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
    al ™:

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
    tsukiji market?

    Sounds Exciting.

    Did someone mention being off every other Wednesday?

  69. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:31 pm

    February 16th, 2009 at 1:29 pm
    Just like Koakane. No emotion.

    that’s cause he was passed out…

  70. Garret February 16, 2009 1:33 pm

    Arkansas just added a punter that used to be at UH.

    The University of Arkansas adds a punter to its 2009 recruiting mix in the form of San Marcos (CA) Palomar Community College standout Briton Forester (5-10, 175), who started his career at the University of Hawaii.

  71. Garret February 16, 2009 1:35 pm

    I would love it if Gov. Lingle came up with money for big upgrades to Aloha Stadium (not just the money for the fixes that are required for maintenance) or to address the list of facility needs that I’m sure that JD has prepared.

    Otherwise, that attempt to end JV sports and the limited funding for facilities is going to stick out in her legacy…

  72. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:36 pm

    How about LL release the money to complete the Ching Complex??

  73. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:36 pm

    stretch….do you have mtg on thursday???

  74. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:37 pm

    al – i can “schedule” one

  75. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:39 pm

    d1…if you are working. no worry. need parts.
    we can always be the recon team and give you a review for next trip.

  76. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:40 pm

    thursday then 1200.

  77. Kekoa February 16, 2009 1:40 pm

    A tip of the coconut hat to anyone who ran down the street and around the corner to the Aloha stadium this morning?…and cheers to anyone still out on the course!

    MsLiz ~ I think if da Gov followed your advice and did follow thru on beefing up the stadium, she would leave a reputable legacy.

  78. Garret February 16, 2009 1:41 pm

    It looks like is in major financial trouble and they will be having major cutbacks on their coverage of college football soon. That will probably significantly hurt their recruiting coverage…

    It has been a downhill ride for Scout since Fox bought the company for $50 million in 2005. Ben Koo of Koo’s Corner writes that “it’s pretty clear the publishers had a strong case if an already negative cash flow Scout was willing to part with $5 million in this bad economy. This combined with the fact that publishers across the country took place in the lawsuit all harping on the same issues leads me to believe the boys up in Seattle weren’t acting in good faith.”

    Fox is most likely having a very difficult moment of truth: We spent a lot of money, we lost a lot of money, our strategy to monetize interest in college football didn’t really make any sense, this economy is going to break the camels back, and we should get our resumes ready.”

    As one person with a knowledge of legal law tells us, “You could probably buy [Scout] for a pittance of what Fox paid for it.”

    In the short term, Koo writes, expect Scout to “do a dramatic cost cutting (as if the message boards and UI wasn’t terrible enough), and bunker down during this economic atomic winter while upstart blogs and competing networks nibble on their market share.”

  79. OldDiver February 16, 2009 1:42 pm

    What Lingle will be remembered for? Jeez, I’m try to forget her.

  80. al ™ February 16, 2009 1:44 pm

    is it true that she plans to retire on the mainland?

  81. d1島 February 16, 2009 1:46 pm

    No need recon…been there already at dinner time.
    IIRC the only difference is lunch time no mo’ crab legs 👿

    …or more accurately, crab joints. I think they may try to save $ by getting a little “less than prime” pieces

  82. Kazz February 16, 2009 1:46 pm


    February 16th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
    Arkansas just added a punter that used to be at UH.

    The University of Arkansas adds a punter to its 2009 recruiting mix in the form of San Marcos (CA) Palomar Community College standout Briton Forester (5-10, 175), who started his career at the University of Hawaii.

    Eh, das da boy who wen shoplifff eh?

  83. Garret February 16, 2009 1:47 pm


    Because the donation that Tom Mui helped to get seems to count towards the Ching Complex matching funds, there is not that much left that needs to be raised. However, Aloha Stadium needs a *lot* of money for upgrades. I would hope that the Ching Complex money wouldn’t even be a worry for UH, and if the State was going to come up with Aloha Stadium money then adding the Ching Complex money to it wouldn’t be a big part of the overall funding granted.

  84. SteveM February 16, 2009 1:50 pm

    This semester, I am off every other Thursday. But it’s (finally) back to work week for me this week. Looks like I’ll miss the cattle call… 🙁

  85. Garret February 16, 2009 1:50 pm


    Here is a link to an Advertiser story that confirms your memory.

    A University of Hawai’i football player was arrested and charged yesterday for allegedly shoplifting earrings valued at $7 from an Ala Moana Center store.

    Briton Forester of a Makiki Street address was arrested at 4:03

  86. Stretch February 16, 2009 1:52 pm

    $7 earrings pales in comparison to the trouble JP is in.

  87. jm2375 February 16, 2009 1:53 pm

    al #80 – you mean she’s not gonna run for one of the Senate seats when one of the Dans decides to retire?

  88. Kekoa February 16, 2009 1:54 pm

    I look at the new facilities like in AZ, and TX, and I start salivating over what we could have if we went all-out!…or had a corporate giant to help fund it.

    We have our share of big wigs who hang their feedbag here, like the *owner* of Lana’i City. He’s looking for a way to harness more wind power to send via cable to Oahu. Sounds like Lingle could craft something that might result in stadium funding from him. He’s got the deep pockets to do it with the right incentives.

  89. OldDiver February 16, 2009 1:56 pm

    Totally off anyone’s subject. Has anyone tried the Roomba vacuum cleaner? You know the one that vacuums by itself. Was thinking about purchasing one.

  90. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 2:01 pm

    OldDiver- Inquire with Kekaula. He swears by it.

  91. d1島 February 16, 2009 2:02 pm

    Well, that brings back some memories…

  92. Rosette February 16, 2009 2:10 pm

    ROOMBA VACUUM well so long as you don’t step on it and trip over it ! IT takes a whole day for it to clean one room and you better close all your doors ..what if it over heats and you forget you spilled water! then if your chair is lower the vacuum can’t clenb it ..if you have a piles of rags on the floor better pick it up or it will get tangled over heat then WHaT NEXT ….sweeper on the wood floors is easier to use a dollar store sells those with refills.!

  93. A-House February 16, 2009 2:11 pm

    Me thinks Linda L is going to hang on Palin’s coat tails for 2012, hope she wins, and gets a Cabinet position.

    That’s OK with me – just get her out of Hawaii.

    When either Dan decides to call it quits, I believe the Democratic party already has individuals lined up to fill either or both seats.

    Should Abercrombie and Hirono move up, it will leave a big void for Hawaii in the House of Rep as the new ones would be bottom dwellers for a long time. Look how long it took Inouye to become Chair of the Senate Ways and Means Committee – nearly his entire political career in DC.

    I supported Ed Case because he had the correct idea; to bad the staunch, old time Democrats could not see the merit of his becoming a Senator early with years ahead of him to gain longevity/seniority. It will be Hawaii’s great loss when Inouye steps down.

  94. Rosette February 16, 2009 2:12 pm

    ROOBA VACUM try it then return it IN ONE PIECE if you are not happy!

  95. Rob25 February 16, 2009 2:12 pm

    Wow…al, I didn’t get an invite and I’m right down the street from there!!

  96. A-House February 16, 2009 2:15 pm

    There are now 4 final candidates for one of the O-line coach position?

    I thought ST says it down to 2 and Kani and Keith were not in the running.

    Maybe, I read the blog when I’m hazy and get things mixed up all the time.

  97. d1島 February 16, 2009 2:16 pm


    If you read it here, you’re invited…

  98. Rob25 February 16, 2009 2:19 pm

    Wait, I’m still going through FB withdrawls…seems like the only FB related issues we are talking about involves arrests.

    Thank goodness there is the Speed and Quickness clinincs…all those happy faces!!

    I guess I should schedule a “marketing” meeting with Stretch.

  99. A-House February 16, 2009 2:20 pm


    I don’t think Murdoc will donate to UH. He is only interested in himself and $$$$$$$$. However, if he does, then will extend my most heartfelt thank you.

    Be quite different from the Nike/Oregon or was it Oregon St that got the millions.

  100. 702WarriorNation February 16, 2009 2:21 pm

    OldDiver – re Roomba
    Good on hard floor but bad on carpet. Picks up lots of desert dust in the house.
    If you have pet(s), loose hair is hard on the Roomba that will require its brushes being cleaned frequently.
    Costco sells Roomba which incl. replacement items- if you don’t like it, return without problem.

  101. 702WarriorNation February 16, 2009 2:24 pm

    Your comment on Point After – Lee, is it Afuvai?
    If yes, his younger bro – Mai good friend that I ran/ski with.
    Would like to contact if possible – can you help?

  102. A-House February 16, 2009 2:27 pm


    Mrs A-House is concerned about your bleeding nose and says to gently squeeze your nose shut and put a “cold” pack on the back of your neck with your head slightly tilted backwards. If you feel you must blow your nose, do it very gently. Good luck!!!

    Worked for MasaBoy who had frequent nose bleeds when it became very warm.

  103. 702WarriorNation February 16, 2009 2:28 pm

    NCAA overlooking BCS schools.
    Just like financials/banks/wall street treated differently than ‘main street’
    have $ and have nut(s) – sorry couldn’t resist, shud be ‘nots’

  104. Kazz February 16, 2009 2:29 pm


    February 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
    $7 earrings pales in comparison to the trouble JP is in.

    $7.00… SEVEN DOLLARS…

    I wonder if Forester thought he was only going to have to run extra laps if he got caught?

  105. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:31 pm

    rob25…..good grief. as d1 says, you read it your invited.

    no excuses from you girl.

  106. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:32 pm

    702…….i haven’t seen mai in years myself. i’ll ask around. maybe he lurks, ahahaha.

  107. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:34 pm

    fact..the roomba only picks up the big rubbish. the tiny, microscopic dust and dust mites are still crawling all over the house.

    pay the price and get a dyson vacuum.

  108. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 2:36 pm

    A few years ago I had a talk with venture capitalist, Barry Weinman. He’s got tons of leads to deep pockets from Silicon Valley that have second homes in the islands all wanting to invest in a good profitable idea.

    I’ve said this countless times before, just building a new stadium is not enough. Such a structure sitting idle that long is a money pit. It needs to be a destination that generates revenue 24/7/365. It’s needs to be a diverse complex complete with a shopping mall anchored by two major tenants; restaurants; on-site hotel; meeting and ball rooms; city, state and federal offices. Events held within the stadium cannot be the only primary source of revenue. It needs to be diverse.

    The stadium can be built on the actual site in four stages. Each stage will be functional by football season and be used in conjunction with the remains of the existing stadium structure.

    Same principle can be applied to building parking structures. Each structure will be completed in stages and fully functional by the start of each football season. Imagine catwalks from upper parking structures that go directly to upper levels of the stadium. Easy access in and out.

    Jason- you still get those overhead stadium mock ups we made a few years ago?

  109. 702WarriorNation February 16, 2009 2:36 pm

    thanks al,
    Last I heard after Mai visited us in LA, he was in Tx and even might have been married.

  110. d1島 February 16, 2009 2:43 pm


    I doubt that he even considered being caught.

  111. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:45 pm

    702….did you go to mhs?

  112. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:49 pm

    ajoe….just got his engineering degree?

    jus jokin

  113. iwonderwhytheyhateme February 16, 2009 2:53 pm

    afternoon tsaikos,

    does anybody know (SteveTsai) how many coaches have applied for the vacant positions? So far I have read 2 names on the board that may have put their hat in for the jobs.

  114. kama krab February 16, 2009 2:54 pm


    Gotta agree with your assessment. I feel that there needs to be somebody out there that thinks outside of the box when it comes to these types of big projects. I do agree that there are people out there that are willing to shell out some kind of money if there was somebody out there with the type of vision that they would feel comfortable with. The type of big vision that made them deep pockets. These are the type of people we need in our administration, people that are willing to put it out on line to reach the big time.

    I think we have some of those people already in place and feel that with this new president search, we need to find a person that will put everything together to work as one. Some one with, as they say, star power, that has a name behind the title.

  115. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:54 pm

    i do agree with your idea about a multi-complex arena.

    for me, since i don’t golf, converting the ala wai gc is still the best option. for exactly what you describe to include the new athletic complex relocated in its entirety to this site which includes dorms, class rooms which btw can have adult classes at night, etc, etc. it should have been built before the convention center was made and the cc could have been a part of this complex.

    they could still convert the cc to an annex of the ala moana center.

    i know the golfer’s would be p’d off, but, hey do we service the masses or the retirees at ala wai?

  116. al ™ February 16, 2009 2:56 pm


    no wonder… weren’t paying attention. kani kauahi, keith uperesa, and gordie shaw are three names that have been mentioned here by st.

    who’s the fourth or second guy who took a visitation? i think he is the chosen one.

  117. d1島 February 16, 2009 2:57 pm


    There goes al’s chance to be governor 🙄

  118. Ralph February 16, 2009 2:58 pm

    with A/Joe’s concept, it would be best to build a new stadium on the ala wai golf course site….stadium, condos, hotel, shops, parking, promenade over the ala wai canal…public golf course in a prime location next to waikiki is not the best use of the property

  119. 702WarriorNation February 16, 2009 2:59 pm

    yes and left way before you, I believe.
    Grad the last year of Mr. Lum, my band teacher at MHS before he went to UH as the band teacher etc. Great memories esp. MHS dance band – we played at many other schools proms all over the island.

  120. al ™ February 16, 2009 3:00 pm

    ralph… been reading my posts?

  121. Pride. February 16, 2009 3:00 pm

    I wonder why they hate me has a great voice. He should be on the first Tsaiko CD.

  122. al ™ February 16, 2009 3:02 pm

    never took band so have no recollection of mr. lum.

  123. Ralph February 16, 2009 3:03 pm

    no Al, a/joe was the last post on my blog site, after commenting and submitting, wow, lots of comments…like lizK mentioned, the site batches comments.

  124. Da Punchbowl Kid February 16, 2009 3:03 pm

    My understanding is that there is something on the order of $180 million set aside for the refurbishment and upgrade of Aloha Stadium over the next couple of years. That’s far more than any of Lingle’s predecessors coughed up isn’t it? Does she get credit for that, or does the legislature? What is $180 mill gonna look like on the ole’ rust bucket?

    Other than that, it appears we can credit Ms. Lingle with trying to ensure that ceded lands are stolen from Hawaiians once and for all… I hope I’m incorrect about that.

    Oh yah- she also sat on her hands while her buddies, Kitty Lagreta et al, on the regents let June Jones get away.

  125. al ™ February 16, 2009 3:05 pm

    is bolla on leave or is bolla leaving or has bolla left?

    good to see trap recruit local kids for a change? i heard he had some advice regarding that.

  126. al ™ February 16, 2009 3:07 pm

    of course i have been pushing for ala wai gc for years now.
    for selfish reasons too since it is five minutes away.

  127. HiFlyer February 16, 2009 3:08 pm

    The stadium can be built on the actual site in four stages. Each stage will be functional by football season and be used in conjunction with the remains of the existing stadium structure.

    Same principle can be applied to building parking structures. Each structure will be completed in stages and fully functional by the start of each football season. Imagine catwalks from upper parking structures that go directly to upper levels of the stadium. Easy access in and out.

    I don’t know if this would work, when was the last time the State ever had a contract completed on or ahead of schedule.

  128. Da Punchbowl Kid February 16, 2009 3:09 pm

    Hmmmm.. The “Addahknowjoe Stadium Community and Commerce Center” has a nice ring to it.

  129. kama krab February 16, 2009 3:14 pm


    I feel that $180 million proposed to refurbish the rust bucket would be one of the biggest waste of money I’ve seen in a long time. I feel going forward with a new stadium will be the biggest savings for the state. I feel becuase the stadium is so old and outdated, who knows how much more money we will need to spend on regular basis to keep the old stadium up to standards.

  130. Jason February 16, 2009 3:19 pm

    addahknowjoe: Here are those graphics:

    Wow, seems like so long ago when I had no clue who made those images and let me put them on my site. 😀

    A-House: I forgot to answer your earlier question. The NCAA rules don’t dictate what title a coach must have.

  131. kama krab February 16, 2009 3:33 pm

    With a little bit of modification, I think the blue print that has been suggested by A-joe would be a big time hit. With such a big area to work with the potential of the area could be endless, but as I said, we would need somebody with vision to be able to put together a package that could get the founding for the project and the vision to make this a reality.

  132. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 3:50 pm

    HiFlyer- Privately funded.

    Here, take my hand. You back on the wagon, my friend.


    $180 million to do band aid work on Aloha Stadium.


    Stanford tore down their 85,500 seat stadium and built a brand new 50,000 seater for $90 million. And they did it within 9 months!

    We could easily do the same.

    Now, more than ever would be the perfect time to do it. Every facet of the economy is hurting BIGTIME for some stimulation.

    It’s just a matter of getting everyone together and agreeing on getting this project done. From designers, engineers, material suppliers, shipping companies, laborers and the unions to fricken agree on not lining their pockets but seeing this project through.

    Better to get a little something than to have nothing at all through these tough economic times.

  133. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 3:52 pm

    DPK- You funny! =)

  134. A-House February 16, 2009 3:55 pm


    like your idea, but the unions will NEVER allow it to be built in 9 months – that’s just life in Hawaii business ventures.

    unions must be prime movers – like a great EGO problem!!!

    since the population move is to the Wessai, the current stadium site should not be left out, but kept as an option for there in nothing wrong in moving the business and tourist “center” out West and reducing traffic in/around Waikiki

  135. kama krab February 16, 2009 4:00 pm

    Amen A-joe,

    The only problem with that is, I don’t think we will ever get all those facets to work as one. It is all about me when you dealing with the big wigs and the sad fact is we will probably go ahead with the band aid act.

  136. iwonderwhytheyhateme February 16, 2009 5:01 pm


    thanks for the info. looking forward to more updates and info from tsai.


    i got nuttin on you…especially your 1 in a million! awesome bro.

    hopefully lots of people can go down to genji’s for another bout of drunken karaoke on the 21st! cheeeehu!

  137. roysan16 February 16, 2009 5:34 pm

    Combine scheduled to start Feb. 18 this coming Wednesday.

    The 2009 NFL Scouting Combine will be held Feb. 18-24 in Indianapolis, Ind. More than 300 of the best college football players will be invited to participate.

    For six days at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, players are put through a series of drills, tests and interviews with more than 600 NFL personnel including head coaches, general managers and scouts.

    Last year I remember ST was at the RCA Dome providing updates to the blog. The stadium used to be the home of the Indianapolis Colts and has since been demolished this last December. Lucas Oil Stadium is the new home of the NFL franchise Indianapolis Colts and the NFL combine and is approximately a half a mile away from the old site (RCA Dome).

    The NFL combine has been in Indianapolis (at the old stadium, RCA Dome) since 1987.

    Players from the UH


    Teams UH faced this past season and the number of players those teams have at the combine

    Florida– 4 players
    Fresno–2 players
    Cincinnati–6 players (and to imagine we were in this game)
    San Jose–4 (what a surprise)
    Oregon State–5
    Notre Dame–1
    Boise State–2


    How are the players selected for the NFL Combine?

    Participants are determined annually by a Selection Committee. The Directors of both National and BLESTO scouting services, which combined represent twenty-six NFL teams, are joined by members of various NFL player personnel departments to form the committee. The participating NFL executives can rotate on a yearly basis, and remain anonymous. ALL eligible players are reviewed and voted on by the committee members. Each athlete receiving the necessary number of votes, by position, is then extended an invitation. While it is not a perfect science, the goal of the committee is to invite every player that will be drafted in the ensuing NFL Draft.

    What goes on at the combine?

    Workout and drills.

    40 yard dash, Bench Press, Vertical Jump, Broad Jump, 3 Cone Drill, Shuttle Run(20 and 60)

    Position Drills.

    Physical Measurements

    NFL Team Interviews

    The Wonderlic test (50 question test testing the player’s IQ)

    The Cybex Test ( tests flexibility)

    Injury Evaluation, Medical History, Physical Exam, Emotional and Psychological Testing (MRI, X-Rays, Blood test)

    Urine Test (test to determine banned substance)

    Final notes-

    As comprehensive the test are of the workout and position drills– what I heard on ESPN is that a greater emphasis now of days is on the NFL interview, medical history and all of the other testing as opposed to only looking at workout numbers (like 40 times). Mega workout jockeys with great numbers at workouts– history has shown doesn’t always equate to paralleled success in the NFL. (this is quote from one of the ESPN guys).

    For the UH contingent this is your big chance to set your foot inside the door. So take this very important first step. And prove that you belong.

  138. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 5:36 pm

    Actually, I put out the gov’s legacy for debate because I wasn’t sure of the answer. Maybe sombody could enlighten me. (Admission: I voted for her twice.)

  139. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 5:39 pm

    I think Mouton and Ingram will do well in the interviews.
    Veikune is a little shy, but he’ll do OK. It won’t matter, anyway. He’s looking more like a first-day player. He’ll probably be picked during the autograph phase of the Green-White spring game.

  140. TOM February 16, 2009 5:44 pm

    JASON: Besides the stadium on the Ala Wai golf course, do you still have the drawings of how a stadium could be built on the UH campus? Could you send a copy of the files to my e-mail address?

    As all of you may realize, Puck’s Alley and the whole area around there, including the Varsity Theatre site is Kam School/Bishop Trust land. Some sort of cooperative effort on behalf of the UH and Kam School to develop the area for supporting structures like parking etc in exchange for some quid pro quo (free tution for Hawaiians?)

  141. d1島 February 16, 2009 5:50 pm


    speaking of Quid Pro Quo (say that 5X fast)

    I mentioned before that probably the only idea I’ve ever liked outta Kneel Aimazombie is to exchange building a stadium over in the Wessai for development rights to the present stadium site by a private developer.
    It would get done fast!

  142. al ™ February 16, 2009 5:50 pm


  143. SteveM February 16, 2009 5:57 pm

    February 16th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
    I wonder why they hate me has a great voice. He should be on the first Tsaiko CD.

    Pride. — such a CD would have at least 20 tracks… and a separate “Side B” CD… 🙂

  144. Committed Road Warrior February 16, 2009 6:00 pm

    With regards to the Stadium issue:

    Methinks the State is gonna go with the band-aid approach and pour money to fix up the existing stadium infrastructure. Bad idea, IMO. It only prolongs the inevitable, heaven forbid if the stadium has to be condemned for safety reasons, which we certainly hope won’t ever occur.

    I like a-joe’s idea of rebuilding the existing stadium site and seating arrangements in four separate stages. Is that structurally feasible? How about putting in metal bleachers with seatbacks and cupholders (and armrests if you really want ’em) so that the State doesn’t have to go through the process of replacing seatchairs on an annual basis?

  145. Jason February 16, 2009 6:00 pm

    Stephen: I’m not sold that Veikune is a probable first day player just yet. He certainly could be, but it’ll depend on how he does at the Combine and at Pro Day. Remember that the first day is just two rounds now. I think he goes in round three. But really solid measureables would probably put him into the 2nd round.

    Tom: All the pictures I have are at that link. I think the one you want is the third link. If you want copies, save them to your hard drive by right-clicking, then choosing “Save Picture As.”

  146. SteveM February 16, 2009 6:34 pm

    Want to see SteveM’s musing on the first Karaoke Call and the person at the bottom of Tsai-ko Karaoke? If so, click here. Anyway, he’s coming back for the…

    Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:00 PM – closing
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  147. A-House February 16, 2009 6:38 pm

    Will we know tomorrow or next week who was selected as one of the O-line coach?

    And, if there are 2 open positions, why not give one to each of the final 2 applicants rather than conduct another time-consuming process?

  148. OldDiver February 16, 2009 6:39 pm

    Stanford stadium is not comparable to Aloha Stadium. Stanford stadium was built in a huge dirt hole with wooden bleachers on the dirt. They replaced the wooden bleachers with aluminum bleachers, still on the dirt.

  149. al ™ February 16, 2009 6:41 pm

    i am not sure if the second position was officially posted. as such, there is no position until the job vacany is announced and the proper “open dates” are satisfied.

  150. TOM February 16, 2009 6:41 pm


    Does someone still have those drawings of how a 40,000 seat stadium could be built on the campus?

    I like the idea of a stadium at the Ala Wai – correct! I don’t golf!

    And if someone was brave enough to do a stadium on the west side, it’s OK with me – need to have the infrastructure though. This may justify the Mayor’s train!

    However, we would have to have a consensus as to where it should be.

  151. Jason February 16, 2009 6:57 pm

    al: It was posted.

    Tom: Are you sure this isn’t it?

  152. addahknowjoe February 16, 2009 7:05 pm

    Standford stadium is absolutely comparable.

    However inferior, Stanford got a brand spankin’ new stadium for $90 million. We can only patch up Aloha stadium for double that amount.


  153. momotaro February 16, 2009 7:09 pm

    Stanford stadium is not comparable to Aloha Stadium. Stanford stadium was built in a huge dirt hole with wooden bleachers on the dirt. They replaced the wooden bleachers with aluminum bleachers, still on the dirt.

    Yes, plus it would take a while to ship the supplies and equipment to Hawaii. It would probably take nine months just for the contractor to mobilize.

  154. OldDiver February 16, 2009 7:10 pm

    OK then, which is a better buy, a roomba vacuum cleaner or a upgraded Aloha Stadium, heh.

  155. al ™ February 16, 2009 7:41 pm

    olddiver….surely you jest.

  156. al ™ February 16, 2009 7:51 pm


    btw, i did catch that one at post #48 regarding the kanoa look alike.

  157. Kekoa February 16, 2009 7:52 pm

    OD ~ Forget the Roomba, get a housekeeper. Stimulate the economy with a real person instead of a robot.

  158. al ™ February 16, 2009 7:54 pm


    i was under the impression that the fulltime asst coach and the grad asst were the two positions that were posted.

  159. Jason February 16, 2009 7:58 pm

    al: Three positions were posted. There were two assistant coaching positions and one graduate assistant position. I believe they are all closed, cause the links don’t work, and I can’t find them anymore.

  160. MeiLing February 16, 2009 8:17 pm


    Oh, no! I’ll stop wearing mu’umu’us!

    I like the idea of building a stadium on the Ala Wai golf course. (The golfers might not like losing the public course.) Once it’s built, they could raze Aloha Stadium & place a golf course there. A stadium closer to Waikiki would help to entice the NFL back for Pro Bowl games since it’d be convenient for touristas. You’d need multi-level parking. Expanding the project to include shops and maybe meeting/conference facilities might be lucrative, but may compete with the convention center. Interesting idea.

  161. FloridaTed February 16, 2009 8:33 pm

    MeiLing (160),

    and the entire surrounding neighborhoods would scream bloody murder about a stadium there, but I’ve said that last year, when we all had the same discussion.

    Rebuild or refurbish, the Stadium is in the right place, imho.

  162. Kekoa February 16, 2009 8:33 pm

    The Debartolo family is developing the largest shopping center on island in the new Hawaiian homestead area of Kapolei. The center piece is going to be the world class hotel that will anchor the complex.

    Since this was supposed to be the 2nd city, it’s time to start planning the infastructure for it. The old Barber’s Point airport runway has already been extended to handle jumbo traffic. There is plenty of space around it for parking and airport hotel facilities.

    Senator Abrecrombie had proposed building the West Side stadium near the Kunia exit. It was planned to go in on the Northwest quadrant of that exit which has lots of room for a huge stadium and lots of parking.

    The new interchange that is opening in Jan of 2009 to add another outlet for traffic relief of Ft. Weaver Rd, plus the light rail planned for the area with other major road improvements would help, but certainly not be enough for such a major project as a super stadium.

    A major widening of old Farrington Highway to help take the load off H-1 West and another land bridge built across Ford Island to continue shifting the flow of traffic to a new corridor running East/West across Oahu, had been considered and will be re-visited. I’ll leave the engineering problems for Stretch, Jason and Garret to work out. Me?…I’m just stirring the pot!

  163. roysan16 February 16, 2009 8:38 pm

    Looking at basketball recruiting in the WAC

    Boise State Broncos-2 recruits (including a PF ranked #72)
    Fresno State-2 recruits (including a PF ranked #22)
    Idaho Vandals-4 recruits (including a C ranked #52)
    Louisiana Tech Bulldogs-2 recruits (including a ranked SF#60)
    Nevada Wolf Pack-3 recruits (including a PF ranked #59, a C ranked #38)
    San Jose State Spartans-3 recruits
    Utah State Aggies-1 recruits
    New Mexico State Aggies-0

    >>>Hawaii Warriors-0

    Top teams

    UCLA Bruins-5 players (all recruits ranked in the top 50)
    Florida Gators-3 players (all recruits ranked 12th or better)

    Come on UH coaches don’t wait for the left overs. Go out and explore, pound the pavement like your football counterparts. Knock on some doors, do something. Don’t sit. Do some smmoozzing, something…pull a rabbit out of your hat…I don’t care…work some magic…come on let’s go, now!!!

  164. roysan16 February 16, 2009 8:50 pm

    why I like the idea of a stadium on ala wai gc is because it’s near waikiki and for the potential of drawing the walk up traffic to the games. foreign tourists never having been to a US stadium or football game might just go because of the novelty and curiosity of it. Add the close proximity to the stadium and the foreign tourists might just go to game just for thrill of it and for maybe for the taste of concessionaire foods.

  165. MeiLing February 16, 2009 8:51 pm

    Wessai stadium (Kekoa #162) sounds feasible.

  166. TOM February 16, 2009 8:53 pm

    JASON: Sorry – I downloaded the AlaWai picture! Thanks!

  167. whitey February 16, 2009 8:53 pm

    roysan, you probably hit the correct button on why UH bb has not been very good over the past years. UH used to recruit players from areas east and west which had excellent basketball programs, but somehow are stuck in first gear when it comes to recruiting. i am not sure, but maybe the problem is with the coaches because they are new and have not established a program or it could be that they just wait to see who wants to come to UH. either way, is not good.

  168. whitey February 16, 2009 8:56 pm

    the idea of a new stadium for uh sounds good, but how are you going to do it when cannot even finish ching field????

  169. d1島 February 16, 2009 9:00 pm

    Senator Abrecrombie

    ??? 😯



  170. whitey February 16, 2009 9:06 pm

    with the number of graduates, undergrads, part time students, and friends of uh, you would think that uh would be able to raise the necessary funds for academics and athletics. the alumni and friends program for uh is probably one of the weakest in the nation. you look at other universities and how they get their money from alumnis and friends because they make it a point to contact and maintain those contacts. another weakness is uh’s marketing strategies. example, field turf for ching field. imagine is uh athletic dept had sent out flyers to all alumnis and past athletes asking them to buy 1 sq ft and uh would recognize them by putting a donor’s plaque with their names on it. i don’t know what the cost was for the field turf, but i would estimate it to be around $50 per sq ft.

  171. Kekoa February 16, 2009 9:08 pm

    I know D-1…kinda creepy, but he is our short stack, no neck senator until anodda one comes along. Of course there’s always Amazie…

  172. al ™ February 16, 2009 9:08 pm

    okay….the golfers will be mad.

    how’s this then. build the new stadium/multi complex at kapiolani park.

    it may be one of the largest parks that we have, but, per square footage it is probable the least used in the honolulu area/

  173. OldDiver February 16, 2009 9:11 pm

    I believe trust rules will forbid a stadium in Kapiolani Park.

  174. OldDiver February 16, 2009 9:16 pm

    A stadium on the Ala Wai or West Oahu could only be up for discussion if the rail is built. Location wise though you can’t beat Halawa.

  175. chawan_cut February 16, 2009 9:19 pm

    For those of you that are new and don’t know what Stephen is talking about, or for you old timers that just want another laugh to end your evening…
    here’s the old blog that where it all started:

  176. Ralph February 16, 2009 9:23 pm

    no commericial entity on Kapiolani park per will….even burger king was not allowed at the zoo.

  177. Niche Marketing for Newbies February 16, 2009 9:28 pm

    Found this site almost by accident and now discovering the great content here – thanks!

  178. roysan16 February 16, 2009 9:28 pm

    Taking a look at the Womens Recruiting in the WAC

    Boise State-3 recruits (1 guard rated #39)
    Fresno State-1 recruit
    Idaho-2 recruits (including Kanisha Bello, Guard Hilo H.S. (HI))
    Louisiana Tech-2 recruits
    New Mexico State-3 recruits
    Utah St.-3 recruits
    San Jose State-1 recruit


    Well at least we don’t have to worry about other teams poaching our recruits…hehe.

  179. Garret February 16, 2009 9:32 pm

    Discussing the needs of the Dolphins, this article again mentions how Samson might be better suited for guard in the power system that Parcells brought in. Samson fit at center in Cam Cameron’s system, but it really sounds like the new system might force him to move to guard. If Miami drafts a center or signs on as a free agent, we’ll know what their decision is.

    Sign or draft a bigger and stronger center, possibly moving two-year starter Samson Satele to guard?

    The Dolphins struggled running between tackle all season, and Satele’s inability to open holes at the point of attack was part of the problem. The two-year starter isn’t a forceful lead blocker, and this team needs that kind of presence to facilitate the running styles of Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams.

    Centers usually aren’t in great demand in free agency or the draft, and that’s good for the Dolphins considering there are plenty of talented players in both groups this year. Baltimore’s Jason Brown and Minnesota’s Matt Birk are the free-agent studs, and there are six centers in the 2009 draft that scouts say could become immediate starters.

  180. Garret February 16, 2009 9:34 pm

    Georgia’s head coach promised one of his recruits that signed a NLI that he would attend his high school graduation if the recruit was valedictorian. Unfortunately, the NCAA would declare that a violation so he cannot attend the graduation.

    Georgia coach Mark Richt made a promise last month to Troup County offensive lineman Chris Burnette: If you’re the valedictorian, then I’ll be at your graduation to hear your speech.

    However, as it turns out, NCAA rules will prevent Richt from attending the high school graduation. But he still plans on hearing Burnette’s speech.

    “If Chris is the man and he gives the speech, hopefully they will tape it … I would absolutely watch it, I’d be excited to watch it,” Richt said. “I’ll make sure to check with compliance, but I can’t imagine that being [an NCAA] violation.”

    Burnette decided against enrolling early at Georgia so he could stay at Troup to compete for the No. 1 academic honor. Burnette has a 5.012 GPA and slight lead over two others in the valedictorian race. He has made straight A’s since kindergarten.

  181. Garret February 16, 2009 9:38 pm

    Cutbacks in University funding is requiring coaches to take unpaid leave, from BCS schools like Arizona, Clemson, and Maryland, to the WAC’s Utah State. I’m sure that JD has been looking over this option and will have to weigh this type of thing vs. layoffs if things get worse.

    The economic downturn is becoming a leveling force between some NCAA Division I athletics departments and their universities at-large. Arizona State, Clemson, Maryland and Utah State are in the middle of mandatory furlough programs that apply to all school personnel, including coaches.

    But even at Arizona State — whose athletics program is financially self-supporting except for “very nominal” assistance from the university, says athletics director Lisa Love — football coach Dennis Erickson and men’s basketball coach Herb Sendek are being forced to lose 12 days’ pay between Feb. 2 and the close of the school’s fiscal year, June 30.

    Utah State employees also are being furloughed for five days, mostly during the university’s spring break in March. As needed, athletics employees will be able to take the furloughs closer to a June 30 deadline, athletics director Scott Barnes says.

  182. Garret February 16, 2009 9:43 pm

    A *lot* of money is needed for a new stadium, and I don’t see Gov. Lingle, the Legislature, or others seriously attempting to come up with that money…even when the economy was much better it was decided to put the $180 mil band-aid. That is cheaper than building a new stadium…but a new stadium will be needed eventually and the cost will go up each year.

    As WassupDoc and others have pointed out, infrastructure projects are being prioritized due to how that type of construction project puts people to work during a tough economy. However, the Gov. and Legislature seem to be looking at spending really won’t get a new stadium.

    Finding a location for the stadium is less critical to me than finding the money. Without that, everything is just plans and photoshop…and the cost of the stadium rises each year.

  183. MeiLing February 16, 2009 9:44 pm

    Kapiolani Park is on landfill. An engineer would know better than I if that would present a problem when building a stadium on the site. I was wondering if the Ala Wai golf course was built on sand-based soil.

    Inland on the ceded lands? Kekoa?

  184. Garret February 16, 2009 9:44 pm

    Free play link time. Please ignore my next 5 posts if you do not want the off-topic stuff.

    UK and French nuclear submarines were severely damaged when they collided earlier this month. Both subs had nuclear-tipped ballistic missiles, so this could have been a very dangerous accident.

  185. Garret February 16, 2009 9:45 pm

    Nevada is on the lookout for people counting cards via their iPhones. Aren’t all cell phones banned anyway when people are at the tables? That has been the policy at every casino I have been to.

  186. Garret February 16, 2009 9:45 pm

    421 TV stations will switch to digital only over-the-air on February 17, joining the 220 stations that already ended their analog signals.

  187. Garret February 16, 2009 9:45 pm

    NBA player was caught going 90mph in a 35mph zone with his 3-year-old son in the back NOT in a child seat!

  188. MeiLing February 16, 2009 9:46 pm


    Please check your Facebook messages. There’s an opportunity for your moms, actually their kiddos, coming up this Saturday. Mahalo.

  189. Garret February 16, 2009 9:46 pm

    This last one is related to a stadium issue. Article on Texas switching from grass to FieldTurf for their football stadium–I didn’t realize that injuries would be down so significantly on FieldTurf as compared to grass!

  190. Garret February 16, 2009 9:46 pm

    Free play links pau.

  191. d1島 February 16, 2009 9:47 pm

    Speaking of university funding….

    did anyone else notice the mention on the 6 o’clock news about how much the UH lost in its endowment last year due to market losses?

  192. Jason February 16, 2009 9:53 pm

    d1: It’s funny (or maybe not), cause I attended a talk the other day about the new Master’s in Financial Engineering program. The department chair mentioned that potential thesis topics could include an optimization of some UH endowments. He mentioned he hadn’t been at UH long (he was most recently at HPU), but he was pretty sure UH was not using state-of-the-art optimization techniques. 😀

    If I weren’t going into education, that would be a really cool program to enter. I hope it develops into a top 10 program.

  193. SteveM February 16, 2009 10:01 pm

    Isn’t there an extinct volcanic crater that would get partially blocked from Waikiki if a stadium were built at Kapiolani Park? 😕

  194. d1島 February 16, 2009 10:03 pm


    IIRC, no. But there is a dormant one….

  195. al ™ February 16, 2009 10:11 pm

    building a stadium within the dormant crater would be cool.

    of course the high rent district would never allow the politicians to build it there.

  196. SteveM February 16, 2009 10:22 pm

    I can see a lot of civil defense/natural catastrophe scenerios where a facility like a stadium within the crater would not seem absurd. Won’t happen though–lot of logistical and emotional drawbacks. But Diamond Head would have a interesting back glow on game nights. 🙂

  197. iwonderwhytheyhateme February 16, 2009 10:22 pm

    re: new stadium

    I think a new stadium would be an idea worth considering. 2 theories, 1) a 40K-50K seat stadium w/ lux boxes. 2) 75K-90K w/ lux boxes. The former would be suitable for attendance now. The later obviously brings us up to par with superbowl/bcs bowl size requirements with the ability to fill the stands should we bring our program up to par with the elite teams in the country. Although expensive I like the later as it gives room for growth and options. Maybe not the best example but people thought the SSC was waaaay to big at 10K. We want to be a big program?…then we gotta think like a big program.

    as to the ala wai example. absolutely not. im a golfer haha =). plus, that would be incredibly expensive for the state to buy that prime land from the city. not to mention for planning purposes it may run against the city’s Oahu General Plan and the Development/Sustainable Communities Plan…along with a plethora of land use/zoning policies that must be addressed.

    west oahu would be much more sensible and easier to work with imho.

  198. d1島 February 16, 2009 10:22 pm


    and forget about the 10-minute commute for you….
    ….unless you plan to run down Kapahulu Ave!

  199. d1島 February 16, 2009 10:28 pm

    Back to work tomorrow.

    ….gotta be sharp to check for any parts that may need replacing later this week 😉


  200. iwonderwhytheyhateme February 16, 2009 10:29 pm

    sorry forgot to add…

    parks, golf courses are open spaces. its nearly impossible to switch from a open spaced zoned parcel to another type i.e bmx or r-1 residential etc etc.

    its easy to go from others to open space, but not the other way around.

    hopefully this clears things up a bit.

  201. iwonderwhytheyhateme February 16, 2009 10:42 pm

    ooooops. big mistake.

    i forgot that the ala wai might be owned by the state.

  202. Sabut20 February 16, 2009 10:42 pm

    What about Linda Lingle’s Legacy being updating the playing surfaces of Aloha Stadium in 2003 and Murakami Stadium in 2007?

  203. al ™ February 16, 2009 10:45 pm

    wouldn’t that just be repair n maintenance?

  204. Jason February 16, 2009 10:49 pm

    Sabut20 reminds me, I forgot to mention my thought earlier. Gov. Lingle’s legacy, according to Jim Leahey: Hey look, cupholders! 😀

  205. roysan16 February 16, 2009 10:50 pm

    ST-Regarding the picture of the youngsters smiling. What or how did you get them to smile so nicely?

    …I mean like was someone behind you making a goofy face…( my guess maybe someone like Robert K) ?

  206. Kekoa February 16, 2009 10:53 pm

    MeiLing –

    #162 suggests the use of the ceded lands in the Kapolei area, and close to the new UH West Campus. As several peeps pointed out, it goes back to the funding, and how the compliance issues drive people away.

    If you saw tonite’s KGMB news, UH has already lost 38 million dollars in endowments for scholarships in just the last half of 2008. That’s minus 143 million dollars for the entire 2008 year.

    The funding of schollie’s are so complicated that I recently gave up trying to get one started for the Tsaiko’s because of the red tape. We did find it a bit easier to donate directly into the Na Koa fund. It just needed to be earmarked specifically for the Wahine Softball team.

  207. Sabut20 February 16, 2009 11:12 pm

    Is it just repair n maintenance? Isn’t upgrading and repair two different things?
    I don’t know I’m trying here! lol this is hard…

  208. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 11:13 pm

    What a busy day!

    OldDiver- I like the Roomba from Costco. Try it. Take it back if you don’t like it. I have 2 cats… it works fine.

  209. Kekoa February 16, 2009 11:19 pm

    Liz are you SURE you still have 2 cats?…I thought I heard that Roomba burp!

  210. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 11:25 pm

    You know, I was always one of those in favor of a convention center at the current location. But that traffic is horrible, and there’s no parking.
    So, to build a stadium at Ala Wai? Forget about that. Don’t know about you, but right now there’s no rail. Traffic is a mess. And I would be ticked having to sit in Waikiki-area traffic for an hour after every game (well, if I were a fan and went to a game for fun).

  211. Kekoa February 16, 2009 11:25 pm

    Sabut20 ~ Don’t mind us. This is the *stadium* speculation dance we do every year just to fill blog space, and keep ST’s numbers up.

    ST are you now?…

    You scare us all when you tell us you can nut bread!

  212. Kekoa February 16, 2009 11:27 pm

    Eh what happened to ‘ok’ as in “ST are you ok now?”

  213. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 11:27 pm

    Hey- time for a fuud break!

    yum yum!

  214. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 11:29 pm

    I think they should just renovate Aloha Stadium. First, lock it into football configuration. Then renovate it in sections. One year, it’s the makai sideline. The next, it’s the mauka sideline. So that means attendance takes a big hit for two years. But I figure even the state can build a half in one year, right?
    Then I’d build one of those Pearlridge-like monorails from Kam Drive-In to the stadium.

  215. Stephen Tsai February 16, 2009 11:33 pm

    I still can’t blow my nose without bleeding, which should make tomorrow’s video chat quite interesting.
    Anyway, on Sundays, Princesss and I get the “script,” which is an outline. Then on Monday, they send us a revised one. Then Monday afternoon, we get a revision to the revision. Then Tuesday, we get a “final” one.
    I noticed two of the topics are subjects we don’t cover — Bolla and Wie.
    The ad-libbing should be interesting, especially if I start bleeding.

  216. al ™ February 16, 2009 11:36 pm

    i assume that any new facility whether on or off campus would have to include traffic alleviating byways.

  217. Ralph February 16, 2009 11:37 pm

    ST you’ve got chad owens as guest but your topic with him is bolla and wie…very interesting to hear chad’s take on bolla and wie….:)

  218. al ™ February 16, 2009 11:41 pm

    i had that same condition for years. then one really hot summer i find myself in las vegas. for five days and four nights i kept getting a bleed nose. oh, i had had them for years but, with the dry heat it got worse.

    i finally saw an ent specialist upon our return who cauterized the ruptured vessel. its been good since.

    of course i have hmsa and not summerlin, so i paid ten bucks.

  219. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 16, 2009 11:46 pm

    ST- when I was a kid, I used to get nosebleeds when I did not get enuf sleep… something to ponder.
    Sweet Warrior Dreams, Ka Kou!

  220. Pride. February 17, 2009 12:00 am

    Will you stand above me?
    Look my way, never love me
    Rain keeps falling, rain keeps falling
    Down, down, down

    Will you recognize me?
    Call my name or walk on by
    Rain keeps falling, rain keeps falling
    Down, down, down, down

  221. Kekoa February 17, 2009 12:00 am

    ST ~ The Princess can wear her Mardi Gras Nurses outfit. Makeup will have a tough time plugging dat leak from your shanoz!…but nevah mine, da show muss go on!

    I guess I should submit my questions for your show early.

    For Bolla: There are far too many turnovers being made, when can we expect to see a more ball control type offense take the court? Oh and when can we expect to see you back on the sideline?

    For Ms. Wie: To what do you attribute the huge improvement in your game? What do you see as the biggest change, and would you say it was mental or physical?

    Thanks ST. Good nite!

  222. Pride. February 17, 2009 12:01 am

    Sorry gang, wrong blog.

  223. Pride. February 17, 2009 12:04 am

    12:00 midnight, right on time.

  224. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 17, 2009 12:21 am

    Pride. that was the right song… 🙂
    Luvvit- will you sing it on Saturday?

    Nice remix:

    Simple Minds… that’s us 😆

  225. Pride. February 17, 2009 12:27 am

    That’s ST’s song. Although I can hear Jesse James singing it. I’m no sure if Jesse will be in legislative session or not on Saturday night.

  226. Pride. February 17, 2009 12:43 am

    Chad Owens is one of the best football players to ever put on a Warrior uniform. He certainly was the most exciting. Sometimes playing in the NFL is just a matter of timing and being in the right place atthe right time. I never thought that Chad was given a fair chance to make it in the league as a receiver. As good as Wes Welker is, I think that Chad Owens is every bit as good.

    No one said life is fair, especially in the NFL.

  227. al ™ February 17, 2009 12:44 am


    i believe that bolla and wie will be the topic of discussion by the co-hosts and the live chat guest will be chad owens.

  228. al ™ February 17, 2009 12:52 am

    do you think at this stage that chad owens has still a legitimate shot at the big show?

  229. Kekoa (iPhone) February 17, 2009 12:56 am

    Thanks Al…I was on the wrong page!

  230. al ™ February 17, 2009 12:59 am

    how is your lovely wife doing?
    how about pops?

  231. addahknowjoe February 17, 2009 2:14 am


    Would you know Genki get ST’s new theme song?


    Gotta ask them to upgrade their selection by this weekend if nomo. =)

  232. Stretch February 17, 2009 4:22 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos!!

    February 17th, 2009 at 2:14 am
    Would you know Genki get ST’s new theme song?

    We going to eat sushi and sing karaoke this weekend??

  233. jm2375 February 17, 2009 5:59 am

    Good morning Tsai-kos!!

    Happy Tuesday, even tho it feels like Monday.

  234. bighilofan2 February 17, 2009 6:17 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.
    just a quick one.

    Doug R, your dad’s friend, passed. Dodo’s Sat 9-11am. one good guy.

  235. d1島 February 17, 2009 6:32 am

    Great Morning All!

    Hoping only the proper things flow well for the video chat today!

    My question for Chad Owens:

    Who was the last OL Coach candidate that was on campus recently? 😉

  236. d1島 February 17, 2009 6:33 am


  237. LizKauai [iMac] BELIEVER February 17, 2009 6:36 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Prayers needed- please check out my blog entry today and, if interested, the first blog on the list to the left.

    Mahalo and Hi Ho!

  238. whitey February 17, 2009 6:47 am

    Good morning Tsaikos.

  239. wafan February 17, 2009 7:16 am

    Good morning everyone!!!

    Kind of late. Ahhhhh, so this is what it feels like to sleep in. I definitely cannot get used to this.

  240. koakane± February 17, 2009 7:16 am

    quickly checking in and morning to you’all

    have a nice day and play nicely 8)

    out esmeeeeeeeeeeeee whooshhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  241. A-House February 17, 2009 7:44 am


    ST must be on a “gag” order just like the entire UHAD on the Bolla situation.

    Off to class………………

  242. Kevin (not that Kevin) February 17, 2009 9:45 am

    Sorry, I was camping this weekend so I am behind on reading the blog. I usually read but don’t respond. Any how, I was thinking about the Gov. Lingle question, I wasn’t sure, but didn’t Lingle have something to do with giving UH more control of the stadium and ending the paying of users fees? I hope someone with the answer is still monitoring yesterday’s blog because I am not sure and would be interested in the answer.

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