Gener is on the mend

There is a possibility inside linebacker Julian Gener might be available to play this week.

Gener suffered a fractured fibula against Rice, the Warriors’ fifth non-conference opponent of the season. He has missed five games — all against MWC teams — while recuperating. He was running sprints on the sidelines during practices last week.

Gener was the Warriors’ second-leading tackler (33 stops) when he suffered the injury.

After transferring from Mount San Antonio College in 2013, Gener played in three games before suffering a season-ending elbow injury that required “Tommy John surgery.” He has missed 14 of 22 UH games because of injuries.

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More will be learned today about the availability of running back Steven Lakalaka and defensive lineman Marcus Malepeai. Both left the Colorado State game with injuries.

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Drew Kobayashi, a junior receiver from Saint Louis School, has received a 2016 scholarship offer from the Warriors.


  1. Kanole November 11, 2014 6:23 am

    First? Good morning!

  2. sl1322 November 11, 2014 6:23 am


    Glad they offered Kobayashi.

  3. 3-Prong November 11, 2014 6:23 am

    Good Morning Hawaii and Hawaii at Heart.

  4. Buffoman November 11, 2014 6:24 am

    It will be interesting to see how the end of season evaluation goes. I do think the lack of dollars may force the hand. I am okay with another year for coach and if a change comes instead I can go in that direction. As I’ve said this is my team; in its entirety.

  5. Kanole November 11, 2014 6:25 am

    We need you Julian! Stay healthy!

  6. Old School Dave November 11, 2014 6:29 am

    Welcome back, Julian. The team needs your enthusiasm and fire out there.

  7. Old School Dave November 11, 2014 6:52 am

    Regarding the UH AD deficit, how about take 1 percent of student tuition to pay for gender equality (Title IX women’s sports) at UH? UW does that and receives $3.3 million a year that same way to fund their women’s programs.

  8. ArcumFortis November 11, 2014 6:54 am

    Sometimes a comment tells it all. In referring to the current (and growing) UH budget deficit Chancellor Bley-Vromen notes that the “university has a more educational function” when contrasting with the athletic department. So from this chancellor’s perspective athletics is not “educational.” It some “other” kind of activity that is peripheral to the main goal of the university. Perhaps to be tolerated but not taken as seriously as say the subtle nuances of linguistics and their critical importance to our state and culture (sarcasm intended). Perhaps athletics from this chancellor’s perspective athletics is for barely literate neaderthals who have no sense of the really important things in life (like sipping sherry over a nice game of bridge while discussing etymology). I would challenge this as a very limited perspective and question the judgement of the person who thought such an individual was capable of overseeing an athletic department. I have no problem with an academic who is interested in linguistics. I would just propose that such an individual is uniquely unsuited for providing leadership when it comes to Athletics. Add to this an AD who has come to seem more and more limp wristed and unable to advocate for his own vision (eg. Warrior name change, contract extension for coach Arnold) and the athletic department is in big trouble.

    So between a chancellor who has no idea what athletics even is and a AD whose leasership is leading us into more and more red ink, UH athletics is in serious trouble

  9. Shoko November 11, 2014 7:27 am

    I think it would be easier if they raise student athletic fees to lessen the financial burden of a struggling athletic department rather than getting an increase in state subsidies. Yet, I understand that raising fees is like raising taxes but sometimes in dire situations that’s the only option.

  10. Tempmanoa November 11, 2014 7:29 am

    The problem for schools like UH Is that athletic departments are funded by football revenue. When football revenue drops, the whole athletic department suffers. And football revenue drops with a team like ours which has lost almost all its games for close to three seasons now. There are no big television contracts and big conference contracts and sold out stadiums like big time schools that can carry you over bumps. So the pressure is on football to win– if we neglect that role for football, the entire athletic program suffers. We let our program slide, and now we are paying for it.

  11. 3-Prong November 11, 2014 7:40 am

    Gener is one of my favorite players. Big time playmaker.

  12. 3-Prong November 11, 2014 7:48 am

    Shared sacrifice. Raise ppv prices, ticket prices, student fees, and licensing fees. Everyne will grumble but hey, that’s what its going to take to pay for a winning product.

  13. Kapahulu November 11, 2014 7:58 am

    Happy Veterans Day.
    Thank You for your service.

    Went to cheer on our Rainbow Warriors at Colorado State.
    Only saw a handful of UH fans there
    At least the weather was good.

    On the way to watch the Rainbow Warriors play at San Jose State.
    May see some of you at the 2 Tailgates.

    On to Vegas First !

  14. oneseason November 11, 2014 8:03 am

    UH is the flag ship educational institution for the State of Hawaii. It has a lot of resources to draw on for short term financial burps and farts. To go chicken-little for this “surprise” deficit seems absurd.

    “University of Hawai‘i Foundation (UHF) is the tax exempt charitable organization contracted by UH to be the central organization that receives and holds all donations made to ‘Ahahui Koa Ānuenue (AKA) and booster clubs that support UH Mānoa athletics programs” … like Na Koa Football Club

    In the 2013 Annual Report, the UHF had $66,312,644 in “raised funds”, and distributed $36,313,000 to UH. They also spent $11,117,000 on “Support Services” ( Development, Management & fiscal services). Of the distributed funds, Athletics got $3,700,000 (of the $4,016,254 raised for Athletics Support). Total assets are listed as $374,586,000. …

    Currently, the UHF website shows “raised funds” increased to $98,583,866 (2014) from $66,312,644 (2013 Annual Report). Good funding times for many. Seems like enough resources for an appropriately motivated leadership to take care of business in UH Athletics.

  15. Warbow November 11, 2014 8:12 am

    Gener was the key to Hawaii’s defense both this year and last year. Just look what happened when he went down with injuries, the defense went from good to average.

  16. Old Diver November 11, 2014 8:13 am

    Makes no sense to change captains after the ship in sitting on the ocean floor.

  17. cavewarrior November 11, 2014 8:22 am

    Seems the situations encountered by this UHAD in trying to manage their department are not very different from recent past ones. Too many chiefs! No authority! Very tough position to be successful in….which ever way one wants to define success.

  18. WarrioR Fan November 11, 2014 8:26 am

    congrats to Drew on the offer! Now let’s get them other skilled players… Kanawai Now.. Mckenzie… Vavae Malepeai … Timoteo … Tagovailoa etc…

  19. Andrew November 11, 2014 8:26 am

    Anyone else surprised to see in the paper today that the softball pitcher also got a DUI?

  20. tom November 11, 2014 8:28 am


    UHF has the money – unfortunately much of it might be designated funds.

    If you donate to UH and you don’t designate what fund it goes into, it goes into (general) designation. If you designate that it goes to Arts & Science Department, it goes to A&S ONLY.

    So if you want your $ to go to the AD, better designate it specifically – and of course if you want it for a specific purpose, like women’s softball, you have to designate the subset – i.e. women’s softball or otherwise it goes into the general AD fund.

  21. Z November 11, 2014 8:36 am

    I thought Chow said that Lakalaka and Malpeai were both pau? Nice to see Gener on the mend. Having all three back will help.

  22. oneseason November 11, 2014 8:40 am

    Hats off the the UH Foundation folks that figured out how to trim the Support Services in 2009 & 2010 while increasing the distribution to UH (and growing Assets). A million here, a million there, … (as the old saying goes).

    Year Assets Dist_to_UH Sup_Serv SS_%
    2005 $181,285 $18,655 $6,457 34.6%
    2006 $207,409 $19,376 $6,803 35.1%
    2007 $273,081 $23,124 $8,108 35.1%
    2008 $295,418 $28,724 $10,161 35.4%
    2009 $267,906 $29,183 $9,745 33.4%
    2010 $288,304 $31,655 $8,733 27.6%
    2011 $326,629 $30,846 $9,582 31.1%
    2012 $336,463 $35,010 $10,223 29.2%
    2013 $374,586 $36,313 $11,117 30.6%

  23. kaleo November 11, 2014 8:45 am

    aloha kakou,

    Iʻm just wondering- and I believe it is a legitimate question, why Coach Chowʻs staff have not followed up with a certain Kaiser High School Junior offensive lineman who was the MVP for lineman at the All-Poly Camp in Utah, has received an offer from Colorado and I believe Utah is called every week (or two) by Florida State, Arizona, Arizona State, received interest from Stanford, Clemson, etal? The family has actually sent his video clips to the UH staff and reached out to contact the staff, because they would like to see if there is an option to play at home in front of families and friends and have received no interest. Why?

  24. hwnstyll November 11, 2014 8:48 am

    The structure of our allocation of funds and clarification of revenue is the problem and not a very accurate way in reporting the value of our football program, coupled with the negative perception from last year through this year in the media is also a factor. Then you have the mismanagement of the AD’s office the last ten years makes one sigh with wonder how something so coveted could always be in such disarray.
    Until the legislature and the Stadium authority correctly give the UH football team money generated from their sport, this game of UH always asking the legislature for money will always continue.
    You cannot tell me that the ILH and OIA generates enough money to cover costs when games are played there. The stadium subsidises everyone else using the Stadium at UH’s peril. Stop this and you stop haveing deficits at UH athletics.

  25. Maddog50 November 11, 2014 8:53 am

    Was at CSU and probably estimate fan total of 250 to 300 in a couple different sections pleasantly surprised just FYI

  26. tom-warriornation November 11, 2014 8:59 am

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    Here is the new, working link to purchase these premium tickets behind the Hawaii football team (Same price: $25 per ticket/ Use Code: ALOHA to get access to seating):

    As an option, you can also purchase your tickets via telephone. Please call (408) 924-7589 (SJSU ticket office) to order you premium discount tickets for seats behind the Hawai’i team. Call Monday-Friday, 9 am to 5pm only.

    Limited number of tickets available. Excellent seating.

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    We have a beautiful, covered pavilion that can accomodate up to 1,000 fans. Live Hawaiian music, ono local kine food being sold, famous Green Cups promotion with Budweiser, and fabulous raffle prizes. NO OUTSIDE ALCOHOL PLEASE.

  27. Andrew November 11, 2014 9:06 am

    “Waiting list: I-duh-ho (1-8), Waked Forest (2-7), My Hammy of Ohio (2-8), R-O-C-K in the UTSA (2-7), Huh-wai-yuh (2-8), dropping the ball off at the 1-yard line.” – ESPN.COM.

    Wow, I’m shocked that we are not on the ESPN bottom 10 this week, although we are still on the waiting list to get in.

  28. oneseason November 11, 2014 9:08 am

    Coach McMackin was fired within days of it becoming impossible for him to lead his team to a bowl game for a second season in a row. While it is true that this corresponded with the end of the season, as I recall anyway, the firing was on hold until the possibility of becoming bowl eligible disappeared; UH ended with 6 Win – 7 Loss season. With a 14-35 loss to Utah State’s true freshman quarterback in his first starting game, Coach Chow achieved a 3rd losing season in a row on 1 November 2014. Any remote possibility of a bowl appearance was extinguished with the 8 November 2014 loss to Colorado State University, and this year’s record so far is 2 Wins – 8 Losses.

  29. azwarrior22 November 11, 2014 9:17 am

    If BJ is a good bean counter, he will realize that UH cannot afford not to make a change in HC. He would make a bigger splash if he didn’t wait until the end of the season. The fans are losing interest and it is hard to watch when the final outcome is already pre-determined.

  30. oneseason November 11, 2014 9:21 am

    #29 … I am not certain there won’t be issues with the double negatives 🙂

  31. 808WarriorFan November 11, 2014 9:38 am


  32. Z November 11, 2014 9:38 am

    Coaching matters. Watching Sanchez play for the Eagles makes me wonder how he would have done if Eagles coach was the Jets coach when he was there? Must be tough for the Jets fans to see this happening.

  33. Andrew November 11, 2014 9:43 am


    I don’t think the issue is what Ben Jay thinks of the coaching issue, it’s more of what upper campus thinks. I’m pretty sure Jay knows that they can’t really afford to keep the current regime, but will he really be allowed to make he decision, that’s the question.

  34. st. anthony trojan November 11, 2014 9:44 am

    tom-warrior-nation….tip of the coconut papale to you.. n whomever else helps you…with all you do there organizing ur tailgate..

    now if the marketing dept up here in our neck of the woods would do same…from what me can tell…it is sailor blue n his crew that does it here…

    just wonder how much support they receive from UHAD…from its paid staff…if ne….why is it so difficult for them to promote ‘tailgate’ at home games.. n try n bring back sum of that aloha spirit again…banning of hibachis… should be repealed,,if sum one had testicles…should be sumthing for future review..n change…just takes sumone that cares to make extra effort…n please don’t give us that ‘fire safety’ crap…

    thanks again TOM 4 all you do…if u need transfusion sum time be very hard to find ‘ur color of green’ stay healthy there in san jose…nice swap meet they got there..he he he…

  35. Andrew November 11, 2014 9:44 am

    be allowed to make that decision*

  36. hatakeman November 11, 2014 9:44 am

    The evaluation is not about Coach Chow’s performance. It’s about whether UH Athletics can suffer further economic erosion. As reported yesterday, AD Ben Jay now predicts the athletic department’s projected deficit will rise to $3.52 million, up from $1.52 million. Donations are down $700,000 and football ticket sales are off $400,000. It’s a gamble for UHAD to retain Norm Chow. That’s obvious. But if they think Chow can turn the corner next season, he will remain the head coach. It’s a huge gamble. The safer path is to rebuild enthusiasm by announcing a new head coach that will bring new optimism and consequential increase in football ticket sales revenue and donations.

  37. 808 November 11, 2014 9:48 am

    Maybe on the final bottom 10 rankings UH will make the list.

    Norm Chow will get his team to the bottom 10 by seasons end.
    In terms of funding at UH it is a zero sum game. Someone or some persons gain is another person(s) loss.

    If it came down to keeping scholarships to help students in undergraduate pursuing a medical degree or sciences or funneling money into a dysfunctional athletic program, I say give the monies to students that are eventually pursuing graduate degrees in the medicine and sciences.

    Most of the funds in UH foundation are already allocated for a specific purpose. It is obvious the vision of UH is far more than athletics. Thank god for that.

    If UH really doesn’t have money because of all the recent buyouts and the Wonder blunder fiasco, then it is sad to say but maybe UH should wait until Chow’s contract ends.

    It’s like credit cards, if you continue to live on credit hoping to pay it back, then sooner or later the available balance will have vanished.

    Or, do like some would like to do, tax and spend. Let’s tax for the income. Eventually it works at the start. But the very people or entity that are being taxed will leave for greener patures where they will be taxed less.

    UH football is entertainment. That’s it, no more and no less.

  38. pollypicador November 11, 2014 9:53 am

    Of all the candidates for the next UH coaching job very few mention Aranda. Why? Aranda’s very underrated. Imo Aranda’s might be the most unpopular but I say he might turn out to be the most effective.

    Instead we hear Rolo. Rolo. Rolo.
    Why? Or we hear the Bowling Green coach. Or some others. Keep in mind Aranda’s stock is on the rise, he’s a proven winner, and he coaching against the top competition in the country.

    Aranda trumps Rolo. And perhaps a lot of other candidates, too.

    Aranda’s upward trajectory keeps soaring. Can the same be said of the others?

    Here’s a coach that’s been described as a computer nerd, meticulous, hardworking, perfectionist and teaches from a 500 page playbook.

    The first time I saw Aranda at practice I could see he looked the part (studious, serious, stern) but I was bored, unimpressed. He was too slow, redundant, over teaching…practicing the same play over and over until it was perfect. Now I understand why…always drawing up plays on his clipboard. He had his players attention.

    I would hope that Aranda’s the next UH football coach. UH fooball needs a head coach that’s has a mind that’s expanding and open, and one whom is proving to be a good leader.

  39. Andrew November 11, 2014 10:04 am


    I think many forget about him because the defense here during his tenure was not that great. He had his bright spots like the game against Navy that one season but for the most part they were mediocre. He did better at Utah State and I’m guessing Wisconsin too (although I haven’t been following Wisconsin all that much) but that was with upgraded talent.

  40. oneseason November 11, 2014 10:04 am

    While 3 seasons of making almost any FBS game a guaranteed loss for a team is really bad, even worse from my perspective is the complete lack of acceptance by a “leader” that they bear responsibility for the losses. It seems questionable conclude that an individual will correct fundamental problems if they refuse to even acknowledge their existence.

  41. Inyoface November 11, 2014 10:19 am

    Hey guys, will we win this weekend?

  42. amela November 11, 2014 10:21 am

    Congrats to Drew, we need more of the best local players to commit and stay home and make us a better team and also get the local fans to come to the games. We need a following like Kahuku where the community comes out to support the local players.

  43. Shoko November 11, 2014 10:23 am

    Given the financial constraints the athletic department is operating under, whoever replaces the the existing head football coach, UH won’t be able to afford someone that has a credible track record of success at the Divisions I level. Might have to look to the FCS or lower to find an affordable coach. I don’t think UH will ever pay a head coach close to a million dollar salary without outside help.

  44. sponger76 November 11, 2014 10:33 am

    First off, I do want to say that I love UH football, even with this rough patch we are enduring. That being said, how is it that we go through 43 comments to this point and only ONE person has mentioned Veterans Day? Sorry, but if it weren’t for the veterans, most of us probably wouldn’t even know what football or our other favorite sports are.

  45. Old School Dave November 11, 2014 10:39 am

    EWU’s Beau Baldwin earns somewhere in the area of $150,000. He may also have to teach PE classes, could be wrong (I’m sure some of his assistants do to supplement their income). Speaking of which, my friend took a PE class (Swimming) from Coop DeRene, the former UH baseball assistant who was a professor in the department of kinesiology and leisure science at UHM. Really cool guy, according to my friend. I really thought that Coop would take over for Coach Les, but it was not to be.

  46. al November 11, 2014 10:40 am

    Polly…I like aranda, too. However, I doubt we’d have enough to entice him to become our HC. For one, he’s already at a salary that we’d struggle to top. Secondly, I am sure he has his sights set on a major program’s head cheese’s job.

  47. al November 11, 2014 10:41 am

    Btw, drew Kobayashi was offered but did not commit.

  48. st. anthony trojan November 11, 2014 10:49 am

    why would ne one commit..knowing what is going on up there…be insane to commit not knowing who will be coach next year…but really.. can he de-commit if norm is not there next year.. n new coach can ok that or not ? he will have to sit a year if he does leave ?

  49. ArcumFortis November 11, 2014 10:56 am

    #37…808…your comment cuts to the core of this issue. If football is “just” entertainment then it can be seen as a frivolous drain on valuable resources. I think this is the prevailing view from the current UH admin leaders. And while I think football “is” entertainment I don’t think it is “just” entertainment.

    Athletics have been a respected part of western civilization since it’s very beginnings in ancient Greece. Athletics have been held as part of what makes a well rounded and compete human being. In modern universities the emphasis has been placed on intellect and intellectual pursuit as somehow the most important thing. I am not saying intellect is not important. I spent many years in post graduate education and respect intellect. But I would suggest that it is not the only kind of knowledge that is valuable or the only part of education that is worthy of community support.

    There is as much a sublime beauty and worth in athletic achievement as there is in intellectual achievement. I would propose that the lack of this sort of value calculation is at the heart of where the confusion is at UH and one reason that excellence in this arena will be hard to achieve at UH. A linguistics professor may not have any idea of what athletics is for. It may be seen as simply entertainment for the “lesser ones” rather than a noble and important part of what it is to be human. I find Michael Jordan’s achievements no less great than Mozart’s. Different yes but both sublime in their own ways.

    So for me Football is not “just” entertainment but is the public face of this universities athletic department. A department that needs enough support to have a chance at excellence. When we make it “just” we reduce the chance that it ever will be excellent and in so doing we diminish the breadth of the institution’s educational reach. Can’t we have both great scholars and great athletes?

  50. Boolakanaka November 11, 2014 11:10 am

    12-3prong, I totally agree! Oh, when’s the last time the boxers beat the cats?

    Polly, I do agree that Aranda is a on the rise, but it is for that very reason why he will be most likely be out of our orbit. He makes already about 500k, and so the professional upside would be for him to go to a higher profile program. The same rational applies to Dino, who I think, is a more valuable, as he has already demonstrated he can win as a HC at two programs.

  51. tom November 11, 2014 11:16 am

    #48 ArcumFortis:

    It could be that the intellectuals at UH (Chancellor and UHAdminLeaders) don’t know what Mens sana in corpore sano means,

  52. A-House November 11, 2014 11:27 am


    perhaps that is the “reason” why MRC Greenwood wanted so badly to get rid of Virginia Hinshaw who was so supportive of athletics as Chancellor

    see, Hinshaw, saw the “educational” aspect(s) of student athletes unlike the new chancellor who is from the “rigid” academic spectrum

  53. SteveM November 11, 2014 11:28 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Hope Gener comes back this week and best healing thoughts for the injured!

  54. A-House November 11, 2014 11:34 am


    does the UHF also keep deposits from educational grants given to a particular Prof or school?

    if no, then whatever is “raised” is funneled only to those “programs” designated by each individual donor?

    for example, if I donate to softball, does it go to UHF and stays there until softball wants $$ to purchase equipment?

    does the “kept” funds draw any interest? is invested in whatever? who gets the “spoils”?

  55. HawaiiMongoose November 11, 2014 11:36 am

    Re #8, I had the same thought when I read Bley-Vromen’s comment. It suggests he’s yet another administrator who doesn’t “get” the intrinsic link between athletics and academics that exists at universities like UH, that are viewed as good but not elite schools. Like it or not, the fact is that such universities are in perpetual competition with their peers for more applicants, more public gifts and donations, and more financial support from politicians who control purse strings. A thriving athletic program that is woven into the fabric of the university’s life and enjoys the support of students, faculty and administrators draws positive media attention and improves both the local reputation and national profile of the institution, giving it a leg up in attracting outside support. Simply put, winning is a money magnet. Hopefully Bley-Vroman understands that a moderate investment in athletic success can produce a return that substantially benefits not only student-athletes and fans but the university as a whole.

  56. SteveM November 11, 2014 11:41 am

    RE #51
    A-House — I’ve thought that too, but getting Hinshaw out of the way was necessary for her to get a clear shot at Donovan, who opposed us paying travel subsidies to join the MWC. In the present I have faith in David Lassner and while I not know the Chancellor, I have faith he is not a micromanager and is supportive of athletics.

  57. d1shima November 11, 2014 11:48 am

    Great Morning All!

    Oh, when’s the last time the boxers beat the cats?

    Never in the “Modern Era”! 😆

    Playoffs, baby!

    GO ‘Cats!

  58. A-House November 11, 2014 11:52 am


    you speaking of the Pres or Chancellor who is not a micro-mgr and supportive of athletics?

  59. A-House November 11, 2014 11:55 am

    if athletics was unimportant why do schools like Stanford or Cal Berkley so supportive of sports?

    cuz it brings recognition to the school and hopefully significant donations from former student athletes

    even the high mucka maka Ivy league support sports

  60. Boolakanaka November 11, 2014 12:03 pm

    Ahouse–exactly. Boola U fields 33 varsity teams-yes, 33. In fact, most of the Ivies sport near the same number. Additionally, top ranked liberal arts schools like Amherst and Williams encourage everyone in the student body to go out for a sport while in college.

    Finally, U of Chicago just brought back football, and it’s the Mecca of nerdy.

  61. d1shima November 11, 2014 12:03 pm

    The HC came in with his recipe book and the cupboard was minimally stocked with the wrong kine ingredaments.

    He got a B10 QB who never played a game and, if he nevah get injured, mighta had enuf practice/game reps to fit the bill.

    In the meantime, the OL play is much improved under Naeole and prolly will get better still next year wen the Pac12 QB becomes eligible to run an offense like the HC runs.

    If you flush all that, what?

    Hire one HC who going run spread option? With who? The USC guy? The current QB1? 😈

  62. SteveM November 11, 2014 12:04 pm

    RE #57
    A-House — the President is not a micromanager. The Chancellor I do not know. But did you see them on Leahey & Leahey a few months back? The Chancellor was so enthused that poor Lassner was barely able to get a word in… 🙂

  63. champ November 11, 2014 12:28 pm

    As I have said before, as #9 possibly looked at my post earlier, raise the student fees! Look at a bunch of the other schools on the continent, they take a hell of a lot more! And if the students dont like it they can go to HPU, Chaminade, BYU and other mainland schools that dont have athletics. Whats the big deal!! And let UH take at least 50% of all profit that the stadium generates. Whats the big Deal! What, they protecting the jobs at Aloha Sta? Do we have political implications that provide cushy jobs for connected people? Come on Gov. lets try to fix the situation that has existed for decades. Lets try to hit the Boyd Gaming Group for more donations as they would be more than happy to donate to UH. After all, most of the UH fans go to LV and make many deposits over their lifetime and Im talking BIG DEPOSITS!! Try millions!!! Tired already. The solutions are simple. Wake up everybody!

  64. islandman November 11, 2014 12:49 pm

    #28, oneseason. Not two seasons in a row. Just one season before, in 2010, Mac led the team to the WAC title and the Hawaii Bowl, and a 10 -4 season.

  65. oneseason November 11, 2014 1:00 pm

    #53 … I just skimmed the Annual Reports for trends, and don’t know the mechanics of disbursement. The 2013 Annual Report gives the Funds Raised and Funds Distributed on pages 32 & 33. The information isn’t super granular, distribution seems to be in line with donations. I wish my salary/credit union had the rate of return the endowment funds are earning (Piketty is on target IMO) … … Na Koa & WVB donations (and others) go to those programs if I understood the websites. Would expect each program has investment returns accrue based on its principal & board determines how much to distribute.

  66. oneseason November 11, 2014 1:08 pm

    #63 … Islandman … I think we agree. … I said … “Coach McMackin was fired within days of it becoming impossible for him to lead his team to a bowl game for a second season in a row.” … the point is that he led the team to a bowl game in 2010, the year before his firing. If he would have managed to get one more win in the 2011 season, the team would have gone to a bowl game for two years in a row.

  67. Shoko November 11, 2014 1:10 pm

    Didn’t UH use their capital investments from its endowment to pay off the 12 million athletic deficit it forgave a few years ago?

    I remember BJ saying when he first got hired the athletic department should at least break even in terms of its budget. So much for that promise.

  68. ArcumFortis November 11, 2014 1:20 pm

    50 Tom…..could be that I don’t know what that means either….but I do now…..thank you google and thank you Tom.

  69. Shoko November 11, 2014 1:32 pm

    That game against Idaho 2011 doesn’t seem that long ago. Fan weren’t too happy with that win, if I remember correctly.

    “The Rainbow Warriors (2-8, 1-4 MW) have lost 17 consecutive road games spanning four seasons with their last road win at Idaho in 2011.”

  70. Old School Dave November 11, 2014 1:48 pm

    Looks like the Utah Athletic Director’s gamble will like cause the Utes to lose their DC, Kalani Sitake:

  71. Shoko November 11, 2014 2:02 pm

    Appears Fotu has signed a three-year deal with a team in Spain, CAI Zaragoza.

  72. nutmegger November 11, 2014 3:57 pm

    There has always been a divide between academics and athletes. I believe much of it stems from high school time when athletes got awards, letter sweaters, write-ups in the local newspaper and the academically gifted got few awards, no banquets and very little was ever written of their accomplishments in the paper.

    When the students matriculated to college the academics finally got recognition from their peers. Although finally achieving notoriety they soon become bitter at the value/salary difference between professors and coaches. High school all over again.

    There is enough ego on both sides. Both need to step back and recognize that sports fill an important need in the college experience. A team is a rallying point for all in the university and the community. It brings together the students and the alumni. This can be a source of pride and a source of funding.

    UH is one of many universities with financial difficulties. There is no easy fix. It seems that the only solution is to raise the tuition. With many schools in the $28k region for tuition and room and board per semester, UH is cheap at about $10k per semester for in-state and $18.5k for out-of-state.

    Raising tuition will be the only way to cover UH’s deficit if the legislature and the Stadium Authority will not.

  73. UHfan808 November 11, 2014 4:04 pm

    Good early evening, Tsai-kos!

    Happy Veterans Day! Thankful for the past and present folks who protect our country everyday!

  74. UHfan808 November 11, 2014 4:05 pm

    Wow, I hope all of the Warriors get needed rest to heal up and complete their studies all at same time! Sounds like they’ve gotta do even tighter efficient time management! Wahoo yahoo – This challenge will build the mind and boday even stronger, yup!

    Warriors – No forget to listen to your coaches and trainers! 😀

    – me, I still believe! <3

  75. UHfan808 November 11, 2014 4:26 pm

    Did you know this about the Denver Broncos?

    The Denver community has a lot to be proud of. They once (way back when) almost lost their team then banned together to focus on bringing their team back on track – thru thick and thin – year after year over very many tough years (yes, think decades!). Now looks like they have finally attained their vision; here’s their story 🙂 :


    Although the first decade of the Denver Broncos, a charter member of the AFL, was less than stellar, the team has been one of pro football’s leading teams since the AFL-NFL merger in 1970. Overall, the Broncos have claimed seven American Football Conference championships (1977, 1986, 1987, 1989, 1997, 1998 and 2013) and posted wins in back-to-back Super Bowls (XXXII and XXXIII).

    – See more at:

    The Denver Broncos have been one of pro football’s biggest winners since the merger of the American and National Football Leagues in 1970. The Broncos’ on-the-field success is more than matched by a spectacular attendance record of sellout crowds (except for strike-replacement games) every year since 1970. Denver’s annual sale of approximately 74,000 season tickets is backed by a waiting list in the tens of thousands. The Broncos now play in the new INVESCO Field at Mile High which opened in 2001, but for 41 seasons played on the same plot of ground on which the original AFL team performed in 1960. This, however, is the only similarity of Denver teams of yesteryear and today. The upstart AFL was the target of many jokes and jeers by the established National Football League in the early 1960s, but the Broncos were the most laughed-at of all.

    Bob Howsam, a successful minor league baseball owner who built Bears Stadium in the 1940s, was awarded an AFL charter franchise on August 14, 1959. Severely limited financially, Howsam clothed his first team in used uniforms from the defunct Copper Bowl in Tucson, Ariz. Making the uniforms particularly joke-worthy were the vertically-striped socks that completed the Broncos’ dress. Two years later, when Jack Faulkner took over as head coach and general manager, the socks were destroyed in a public burning ceremony.

    While Denver’s on-the-field experience during the 10 years of the AFL was for the most part bleak, the Broncos did have some bright moments. On September 9, 1960, they won the first-ever AFL game with a 13-10 victory over the Boston Patriots. On August 5, 1967, they scored the first win ever for an AFL team against an NFL opponent with a 13-7 triumph over the Detroit Lions. But at the end of the AFL’s decade, Denver’s 39-97-4 record was the worst for any of the original eight AFL teams.

    Denver’s current attendance bonanza can be traced to a remarkable turn of events in 1965 that first threatened and then assured the future of pro football in the city. Several minority partners formed a majority voting block to sell the Broncos to Atlanta interests, but, at the last minute, the Phipps brothers, Gerald and Allan, who had been left out of the voting block, bought the team and 34,657-seat Bears Stadium. Excited fans showed their appreciation by purchasing almost 23,000 season tickets, compared to 7,996 the year before.

    Before the 1968 season, Bears Stadium was purchased by the city and renamed Denver Mile High Stadium. It was expanded to 51,706 capacity that year, then to 63,532 in 1976 and to 75,100 in 1977. As the stadium grew, so too did season-ticket sales fill every extra seat.

    In their 14th season in 1973, the Broncos under Coach John Ralston finished 7-5-2 for their first winning season ever. Thus started a trend that saw the Broncos fall below the .500 mark only three times in the next 20 seasons. In the 14-year period between 1977 and 1991, the Broncos won seven AFC Western Division titles and AFC championships in 1977, 1986, 1987 and 1989. It was the kind of success the Broncos’ founders could not, with good reason, possibly have imagined.

    The Broncos reached the pinnacle of the pro football world, as the team captured its first world championship with a victory over the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl XXXII. With a victory over the Atlanta Falcons in Super Bowl XXXIII, Denver accomplished what only five other teams had achieved — back-to-back Super Bowl championships.

    – See more at:

  76. Ipu Man November 11, 2014 4:34 pm

    If they can cut coaches, they can cut professors.
    At least their pay. 🙂

  77. JustAsking November 11, 2014 4:46 pm

    Funny article in SA about increase in projected shortfall. One of the reasons is the loss of revenue from a bowl game?!?! UH budgeted for a bowl game this year?!?! Holy cow, that is funny!!!! We all wished and hoped for it, but I don’t think anyone would have included “bowl game revenue” in a budget.

  78. innocent observer November 11, 2014 4:50 pm

    the SA should ask to see the make up of the $3.52 budget deficient; maybe in there, there is a buyout amount for chow. pretty sure there is a buyout for Arnold.

  79. Pomai November 11, 2014 4:51 pm

    #54 – A-House
    If you donate to softball it goes into our(booster club) account an stays there until it is used by the program, now I have no idea if it draws interest, but I imagine if there is any interest paid it’s not to us.

  80. L Lowel November 11, 2014 5:02 pm

    UH, Manoa tuition is a bit different than stated above:

    $4,572 – 2013-14
    $4,920 – 2014-15
    $5,292 – 2015-16
    $5,688 – 2016-17

    $13,356 – 2013-14
    $14,316 – 2014-15
    $15,348 – 2015-16
    $16,452 – 2016-17

    Perhaps surprisingly for some, the faculty is underpaid by mainland standards, and they have trouble attracting and retaining quality faculty. The recent raises approved by the governor do little to correct this problem, but they will greatly affect the growing budget issues at the university.

    UH has already declined to raise tuition. UH is not in a position to raise tuition because the students attending UH who could, would go elsewhere due to the reputation of the school lagging behind many other schools.

    Remember too, UH faculty brought in $300 million in new extramural funds for research in 2014 alone (the operative word being new, there are more ongoing funded projects that further augment the $300 million annual bottom line) . The faculty drives the financial viability of the university, the athletics department is a minor player in the money game, and one that has been a net drain of late. The faculty dump a lot of federal money into the local economy, but get little recognition for this.

    We need to remember that the state’s population is aging rapidly with thousands of people entering retirement each year. This means more and more people on fixed incomes who will not tolerate tax increases to fund things.

    Couple this will the fact that Hawaii has relatively few opportunities for young workers outside of low paying service industry jobs, so the best and brightest young people leave the state and thus the tax base.

    Lastly, nation news sources are indicating that military bases in Hawaii may be cut back in the near future. If this happens, Hawaii tax revenue will shrink with the reductions.

    There is no pot of gold awaiting the program if a friendly politician directs it to UH athletics. Hawaii football needs to re-brand itself and find new avenues of funding that are outside the traditional funding streams.

  81. NorthShoreFan November 11, 2014 5:19 pm

    #61…d1 Lots of injuries this year. 3 wr’s, 2 lb’s, rb injury & suspension, qb got hurt in scrimmage before season. starting center replaced by walk on.
    results, wr’s can’t hold on, oline slow to make adjustments, qb slow to make reads. after all these games d is beat up and tired. seems we lose another rb and d line guy.
    not sure how many teams have to go through this.

  82. 808 November 11, 2014 6:01 pm

    I agree football is the face of the university and I believe both can coexist. However, I don’t believe taking allocated money from other programs to support athletics is the answer.

    The power brokers and decision makers at UH failed to steward the school’s money. The bubble has burst. For years and years, wasteful spending has caught up with them. I think it is a testament to Tomey, Wagner, and Jones that they have won with less.

    Raising tuition to support athletics is not the answer. I know that Title IX prevents UH athletics from being run like an actual business. But, if a business has a finite amount of income, difficult decisions must be made. These athletes are students first. Money from UH Foundation allocated to other programs should not be touched.

    For the time being because of a lack of responsibility from the power brokers and leaders at UH that make decisions, everyone suffers and we are seeing the result of mismanagement of funds.

    Thirty years ago, I probably would have said, “we have to do everything we can to improve UH football.” But now I am at a different time in life with much more responsibilities to think about. Football for me is entertainment. If the product on the field is good, then I would watch several games a year. If it is not good like now, I won’t watch and spend money on a 6-28 football program.

    For some of the players, losing football games will be the only thing they experience at UH. Chow said we’re going to chase championships. It was nice to think about. But, reality has set. There is no money to buyout Chow because they spent it on the Wonder blunder and all the other buyouts of other HC.

  83. spisskyhrad November 11, 2014 6:55 pm

    Chow is a problem created by a bigger problem. Narcissism and arrogance run deep in the pseudo intellectuals occupying the seats of power at UH. Chow’s Phd bears testimony to Goethe’s quote “there is nothing more frightening than an educated idiot”.

  84. Inyoface November 11, 2014 7:19 pm

    There’s always next year guys!

  85. Inyoface November 11, 2014 7:23 pm

    I guess we’re seeing Woosley play the remainder of the season.

  86. champ November 11, 2014 9:42 pm

    Forgot, disband the stadium authority entirely. Make Jeff Portnoy (he has a lot of common sense) Chancellor and head the board of rodents to keep em in line or fire em all, and Bobby Curran (also lots of common sense) Athletic Director then life will be better. Only then I’ll say I am a proud UH graduate of 1973.

  87. Nanakuli November 11, 2014 10:41 pm

    Artie Wilson for AD.

  88. st. anthony trojan November 11, 2014 11:21 pm

    be nice if he had a schroeder’s arm huh …. bomb’s away all game long..instead of …run down the middle n short passes no one catches ne way…

  89. Z November 12, 2014 12:20 am

    So I am scratching my head. Why does coach feel the need to protect/shield Jordan Wynn? Did he do that with the other coached he got rid of? Potential does not equal ready to do the job but isn’t that what we need right now? So now that we have coaches who are learning how to do their jobs all we can do as fans is hope that learn to do a better job? But why?

  90. boolakanaka November 12, 2014 4:09 am

    Aloha all-with all this talk between the balance (well, in balance) of academics and athletics, this is an interesting article–University of Michigan President Mark Schlissel told a group of faculty Monday the school has admitted athletes who weren’t skilled enough to be students at the public institution, the Michigan Daily reports.

    Speaking before the Senate Advisory Committee on University Affairs, a faculty governance group, Schlissel lamented how too many football players were coming to the prestigious public university who weren’t academically ready to be in college.

    “We admit students who aren’t as qualified, and it’s probably the kids that we admit that can’t honestly, even with lots of help, do the amount of work and the quality of work it takes to make progression from year to year,” Schlissel said. “These past two years have gotten better, but before that, the graduation rates were terrible, with football somewhere in the 50s and 60s when our total six-year rate at the university is somewhere near 90 percent. So that’s a challenge.”

    Schlissel spoke for the first time since the university’s athletic director, Dave Brandon, was forced out from Michigan. Schlissel was also speaking in light of a University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill report showing two decades of academic fraud, especially concentrated in that school’s football program, released in late October.

    Schlissel suggested athletics at Michigan were trumping academics, and complained that no one is following the 20.5 hours per week limit set by the NCAA for how much time athletes can spend practicing in-session, according to the Detroit Free Press.

    A CNN analysis earlier this year found most schools have between 7 and 18 percent of revenue sport athletes — football or basketball — who are reading at an elementary school level. CNN requested information from UM on the ACT or SAT scores of athletes playing football or basketball, or the number of specially admitted athletes, but the university said in May it did not have documents with that material.

    “The incentives are really strong for them to be as successful on the field as possible, and some of those are in dollars and others are in performance,” Schlissel said. “If we had won Nobel Prizes this year, we wouldn’t have gotten as much attention as did our A.D. It’s sad but it’s really true.”

    And Artie would never be seriously considered for AD (no relevant experience and no graduate degree)

  91. Inyoface November 12, 2014 5:25 am

    Chow would’ve done good his second year if we had Clune here.

  92. UHfan808 November 12, 2014 5:41 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos!

    Have a good day and be nice pls!

  93. Stephen Tsai November 12, 2014 6:34 am

    New post:

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