Game day: San Diego State




Questions, questions.

Can the Rainbow Warriors get their first victory of the season?

What will Joey Iosefa do for a hana hou following last week’s 35-carry, 191-yard performance?

Do the Warriors have an answer for the Aztecs’ Adam Muema, who is averaging 135.4 yards per game and 5.79 yards per carry the past five games?

Did we really look like that in the 1960s/1970s?

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OK, everybody get up, raised a “Hurricane,” Β and sing along to one of the best times:

Hawaii Aloha video


  1. Rambow November 16, 2013 7:42 am


  2. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 7:44 am


  3. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 7:48 am

    Good morning everybody!
    Whoooohoooo! Game day!

  4. tommui November 16, 2013 7:53 am



  5. Boolakanaka November 16, 2013 7:53 am

    Aloha all! No.4 is the new no.1.

  6. NorthShoreFan November 16, 2013 8:03 am

    Another Boootiful Day in Hawaii nei…..

    Won’t be able to make the game but will be watching it…please look out for my message to my “patnah” on the message board at halftime. Wanted to surprise her but…..the best laid plans of mice and men….

    Anyhoo……IMUA WARRIORS!!!!!

  7. UHfan808 November 16, 2013 8:07 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers! πŸ™‚

  8. egan.kawamoto November 16, 2013 8:12 am

    Gold pants and helmets.

  9. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 8:14 am

    Every practice is retro day for me.
    Whenever I see No. 4 in the backfield, I think … wait, no, that doesn’t look like Nate Ilaoa.

  10. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 8:15 am

    For retro game, they should have had Blangiardi/Leahey do the commenting.
    Or go back further: Paul Guanzon and Mike Vasconcellos.

  11. Da Punchbowl Kid November 16, 2013 8:15 am


  12. UHfan808 November 16, 2013 8:15 am

    Hehe IDK but I’ve seen pictures of such in history books called the 1978 Roosevelt High School Annual ehehehehehe πŸ™‚

    Hehe πŸ˜€


  13. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 8:16 am

    Member Guanzon?
    His license plate was: SPORTS

  14. Ipu Man November 16, 2013 8:17 am

    Robert Kekaula says UH ought to wear these all games from here on.

  15. Da Punchbowl Kid November 16, 2013 8:17 am


    One of the simple joys of an aging mind. πŸ˜‰

  16. Da Punchbowl Kid November 16, 2013 8:18 am

    Nice to see errybody this morning! Howdy gangeez!

  17. A-joe November 16, 2013 8:23 am

    You know you getting old when your high school days is considered “retro.”

  18. 3-Prong November 16, 2013 8:31 am

    I feel it it my bones! TODAY, is THE Day!
    Let’s Go Bows!

  19. koakane ip5 November 16, 2013 8:34 am

    morning and helllloooo how yyyyyou

    challenge dem RW will be playing close attention

  20. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 8:36 am

    Think about poor Brashton Satele.
    His high school (Word of Life) no longer exists.

  21. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:36 am

    Muema is SDSU’s best player. Slowing him down is the key for the defense. The DLine is a little banged up now, so UH needs a big effort from the front 7 today.

    Also, the retro uniforms look great. Hawaii played well last year when they wore special uniforms. Maybe the team does the same this year.

    Curious to see what the helmet looks like… that was the missing item on the uniform showcase video the other day.

  22. Da green mask November 16, 2013 8:38 am

    For this one game, we should have someone dress up like Rainbowman(70’s Japanese superhero) to be our mascot!!!

  23. gobows November 16, 2013 8:46 am


    kikaida, rainbow man, ultra man, zaboga, kamen rider v3…those was the bestest

  24. Slugger November 16, 2013 8:49 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!

    Let’s GO BOWS!!!

  25. Slugger November 16, 2013 8:59 am

    Hey, good idea! I agree with ST & Ipu Man…they should have Blangiardi & Leahy calling the game, and wear the “retro” unis for the rest of the season.

    Do they have the players names on the back of these uniforms?

    Hope UA made the shoes wide enough for the guys who need ’em.


  26. lava November 16, 2013 8:59 am

    Blangiardi coming to Chow’s defense this week on tv? Pathetic.

    The boycott lives. Stay home, nothing to see here.

    We move to 0-10, and remain in ESPN’s Bottom 10.

  27. Old School Dave November 16, 2013 9:01 am

    Too bad no mo Chunky’s Drive Inn.

  28. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:07 am

    #27 – Had the best cheesburgers and tuna sandwiches in town!

  29. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:08 am

    It’s not really a boycott if people come here to say they’re boycotting.
    If somebody wants to boycott, and I suppose that someone’s right, then make it a full one. Don’t watch on TV (even though it’s free today). Don’t read articles. Don’t write about it, think about it, or even think retroactively about it.
    Go play with your kids. Go hang out with your wife. Go throw a Frisbee with Fido.
    But, please, no need to say you’re not going to the game. I promise, only “Ferd” is keeping attendance.

  30. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:10 am

    Re: Chunky’s
    Wasn’t Chunky’s known also for those fat fries?

  31. A-House November 16, 2013 9:10 am


    Mrs A-House don’t care if it’s Joey running the ball – all she screams is, “go Nate”, “go Nate”

    no change tonight whenever Joey gets the ball

    happy hunting to all

  32. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:13 am

    Yep, the SDSU team that lost to Eastern Illinois is different from this one. New QB and Muema is healthy again.

  33. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:14 am

    It’s actually Lakalaka who wears No. 4, but I get the point about Mrs. A-House’s loyalty.

  34. Old School Dave November 16, 2013 9:14 am

    I liked Chunky’s burgers and fries. Things I shouldn’t eat anymore.
    Read that USC HC Ed Orgeron surprised the team with a spread from IN-N-OUT Burgers.

  35. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:17 am

    By the way, folks, retro night doesn’t mean retroactive bitching.
    If you don’t like decisions made in the past, you should have spoken up then.
    That’s why I was amused when Kitty Lagareta recently criticized Dobelle. She was his boss when he was at UH. If you don’t like the way the guy is spending, take away his gold card.

  36. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 9:20 am

    For instance, some have fantasies about JJ’s return.
    He’s not coming back.
    Why? He’s pissed UH sued him for the remainder of his contract after he left.
    He loves Hawaii. But he’s not going to come back here to coach.

  37. boolakanaka November 16, 2013 9:32 am

    As early ballot HOF Ray Lewis says, only a fool focuses on what is already behind him–good enough for me.

  38. Whats up November 16, 2013 9:34 am

    No need to completely boycott the Hawaii football team because Chow is the head coach or the nickname Rainbows. Every fan has to make up there own mind on how much they support the team. I don’t care for the Rainbow nickname because of the possibility of hurting recruiting for talented mainland high school recruits. I have a hunch it wont matter for local boys, JC and transfers because they are usually more mature and understanding of the Hawaiian Island culture.

    But Norm Chow is still in his 2nd year as Head Coach and I expected more like 4 wins this season. I have to say the team has improved but the coaches still need to coach the players up and out coach opposing coaches. I haven’t seen that progress this season so far, I have seen Norm Chow and Thom Kaumeyer get out coached in the second half consistently.

    Demo has been doing a good job special consistently, losing Harding was huge and we all know after the Navy game how important Scott Harding is to the team overall. I know injuries are always a factor but every team has injuries and it’s up to the coaches to make the best of what they have on he roster.

    I was watching ESPN talking about the fans wanting the Florida Gators Head Coach Will Muschamp fired. It reminded me of how some fans want Norm Chow fired. Next season will be crucial for Norm Chow because making a bowl should be the minimum expected in Norm Chow’s 3rd year as head coach with a ton of players returning on both sides of the ball. And the players will not be freshman and sophomores anymore but sophomores and juniors with a lot of seniors leading the team in 2014.

  39. Old School Dave November 16, 2013 9:38 am

    UW fans not happy with the prospect of another 7 win season under Steve Sarkisian – dubbed “Seven Win Steve” by Husky fans. Given the amount of $$$ they spend on football at UW and their upgraded facilities, I can understand why their fans are not happy.

  40. tommui November 16, 2013 10:10 am

    LAVA must be a big supportive UH fan – but only if we are winning.

  41. wafan November 16, 2013 10:26 am

    Aloha Byron.

  42. MattyBoy November 16, 2013 10:28 am

    Hopefully Babers will come here though.

  43. Andrew November 16, 2013 10:49 am

    Mad props to the Wahine basketball team last night on their win over wazu. They were obviously dealing with some injuries and had to shuffle players around but they outplayed washington state for the win. That freshmen guard looks promising

  44. Spisskyhrad November 16, 2013 10:54 am

    Last year the defenders and cheerleaders for Chow could hardly contain their disdain for those critical of their vaunted hero. Now that Chow has successfully lost/removed every single one of McMackin’s last recruiting class and demonstrated his abundant flaws, where are they???

    Chow time is tic, tic, ticking away along with the financial stability of the entire UH athletic department. Argh…..

  45. JaM November 16, 2013 10:58 am

    Good morning all!!!

    It’s Game Day!!

  46. pu'uwai November 16, 2013 11:11 am

    #29…Mahalo Stephen. You hit the nail right on (in) the head.

    Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!

  47. NotNasti November 16, 2013 11:23 am

    I love it when ST is active on his blog.

  48. NotNasti November 16, 2013 11:25 am

    We’re due for a W . . . aren’t we? AREN’T WE? Please? Man up above? Please?

  49. SteveM November 16, 2013 11:34 am

    Good morning everyone!

    ST: Did we really look like that in the 1960s/1970s?

    Yes, mostly. Today’s uniform version is significantly enhanced by design and technology, but the color scheme is the same. I look forward to seeing them tonight.

  50. wasabi November 16, 2013 11:38 am


  51. wasabi November 16, 2013 11:38 am

    Sorry for yelling πŸ™‚

  52. Bowwar November 16, 2013 11:59 am

    I was surprised by Blangiardi’s commentary…He’s a business man and we’re going bankrupt with the person at the helm. It’s a simple business decision. Cut your losses and bring someone on board and save the business. Otherwise, we’re all gonna be looking at a DII program in a few years barely hanging on to the memories of what things were and how we used to be.

    I like the article on Dino Babers and his success…I think we should seriously look at getting him and his brand of football back to the islands.

  53. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 12:00 pm

    Troll patrol is back…

  54. Bowwar November 16, 2013 12:02 pm

    One sidenote…I love our Warrior football players and their effort. I’ve supported them as a season ticket holder for over 30 years. However, with the downturn of the football program, I may have to give up my season tickets as I near retirement. It’s ether that or buy UH basketball season tickets, where the outlook looks alot more positive.

  55. Bowwar November 16, 2013 12:05 pm

    #57: I’m not a troll and I strongly support the UH program…However, I’m concerned about its current direction. The players are doing their best, so i’m all for them. Expressing my opinion and concern doesn’t make me or others trolls…We all have the same goal in mind, the best for the University, its student-athletes, and the athletic program…

    Meanwhile, I’ll be at tonight’s game yelling and cheering for the boys…Go Warriors!

  56. Fan November 16, 2013 12:06 pm

    I find a similarity between blog participants and farters. When some people have bad wind they find a nice remote place to deposit their wares so as not to offend others. But some people seem to like to stink the whole room up. Today the blog seems to have many of the latter variety of participant.

  57. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 12:21 pm

    Bowwar = not a troll

    Critical fans are fine…

    It’s the senseless name-calling, constantly changing user name, complainers with no real input are the ones that nobody likes or pay attention to.

  58. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 12:38 pm

    61… I think the “farters” think their gas don’t stink.

  59. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 12:42 pm

    Wait… How is Miami still ranked in the top 25? Well might not have to worry about that if they lose to Duke (currently trailing in 2nd half).

  60. Kapahulu November 16, 2013 12:46 pm

    Retro Night:
    I got my Ultimate Retro T-Shirt on ready for tonight’s game.
    It is Black with the front showing the UH Helmets for the last 100 years.
    There are 13 Helmets in all.
    Good conversation piece. Everyone has their favorites. Kinda cool!
    Go Rainbow Warriors!

  61. Kapahulu November 16, 2013 12:50 pm

    Under each Helmet, has the year in which it was used.

  62. st. anthony trojan November 16, 2013 12:54 pm

    Was on Oahu for a few days…went to Willows Monday 4 lunch…first time there..very nice place…but quite BIG DIFFERENCE from the chuck wagon days with Price as coach, and hoe the atmosphere has changed….No head table…no coach there to interact with boosters…very sedate..very small crowd.. no loud laughter…no one seemed to be having “fun”. is this all attributed to the current coach…or his record..or both?

    I sat alone cuz I choose to do so n not mingle..but I did the same in Price’s time…but back then
    I always recognized faces…from coaches (plural) to media people…to business people….to just
    regulars… this time recognizes ne one…1 coach that I thought came in kinda late to mingle…
    but was good in his short presentation..and to his credit took all questions…seems like at “RETRO TIMES” all tv stations were there plus the Advertsier n Bulletin…and lots of people having a pretty good luncheon…what happened ???

  63. gobows November 16, 2013 12:58 pm

    good job to coach beeman and the wahine on their 77-66 win over wasu last night.

  64. Moocher November 16, 2013 1:12 pm

    team is better then last year, wins will come.

    to say cut your losses in reference to business is not a shared opinion with me πŸ™‚
    i see it as a stock. yeah buy into it now while it’s low especially when you see the core is building and showing gains.

    a five year plan is exactly that, a 5 year plan. at best gauge things through the season next year and make a better assessment at the end of year 3.

    UH football stock will be golden next season, buy, buy, buy.

    today, man, i really want to see a win, we ALL need it.

  65. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 1:34 pm

    37… Just keep in mind who you’re quoting in regards to not looking into the past…. Allegedly

  66. d1shima November 16, 2013 1:37 pm

    Tough to win a CFB game. Half the teams in the country fail every week…

  67. 3-Prong November 16, 2013 1:40 pm

    Popup tent, two coolers, tickets, vintage logo wear, check, check, check, check! Today is the Day!

  68. d1shima November 16, 2013 1:44 pm


    Cliffhanger in Forest Grove today.

  69. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 1:45 pm

    36 ST…

    Totally forgot about that…. Pretty unbelievable that UH took JJ to court over him leaving. Even though UH had well over a year to work out the extension.

  70. Bowwar November 16, 2013 1:47 pm

    I’m going to wear my retro “Rainbow Warrior” hat from the Larry Price era tonight…

    FUHA: I agree there are some guys with pretty nasty opinions about the State of the UH football program which have “stunk-up” this Blog recently. One of them is an outright hypocrite leading the charge to get rid of Mack and hiring Chow, and now, he’s sooooo totally anti-Chow. And, I think he has made it a “cause” at times to get after you…

    All I want is what is best for the players and the program going forward. We gotta stop the bleeding and hopefully, we can start tonight by beating a good SDS team.

    Go Warriors!!

  71. Bowwar November 16, 2013 1:49 pm

    62: You forgot guys that apparently like to read their own posts and try to post as much as they can to drown out anyone who disagrees with their “expert” assessment of the program…

    WE are all fans, so let’s cheer for the same team…The Warriors!

  72. Slugger November 16, 2013 2:16 pm

    Go Bows! BEAT MIZZOU!

    Watching MBB. Nice to hear compliments about the Bows from the announcers.

    Waiting for UH FB game. Made Jamaican (coconut) Rice & Peas (red beans), so I’m ready for da game.


  73. jeff November 16, 2013 2:16 pm

    rainbow wahine basketball playing i think any update

  74. Slugger November 16, 2013 2:17 pm


  75. Slugger November 16, 2013 2:17 pm


    Miss da Tsaikos & da tailgate. πŸ™‚

  76. mo808 November 16, 2013 2:23 pm

    Game Day Greetings, Folks!

    My heartfelt condolences to LizK and Ohana at the loss of Byron. Keeping you all in my thoughts and prayers.

    Go Bows! Hoping for a W!

  77. Tazer November 16, 2013 2:46 pm

    I think they should play IZ song tonight. Before the game guess which one people. It for wishing “W” tonight would be good. Like rainboWs Warriors. And play nice here and have fun.

  78. clyde November 16, 2013 3:10 pm

    Jeff: Wahine down by one point late in first half; men up by one point at halftime.

  79. chopsueyboy November 16, 2013 3:17 pm

    FCSA shooting men basketball live. Hawaii leads Mizzou 46-45 at half. Rebroadcast 11 pm on FCSC

  80. chopsueyboy November 16, 2013 3:18 pm

    LizK take care, thoughts & prayers to you and your family

  81. PolyMom November 16, 2013 3:36 pm

    Just dropping by to read what the haters have to say. You know, you guys are the Hawaiian crab story!

    I agree with you ST about Kitty Lagareta. I was totally against her being on the BOR again. I blame her and another person for the demise of the Republican Party in Hawaii. The way they passed the Same Sex Marriage bill was just like the way Obama passed Obama Care. And look at the disaster of a mess he’s created. It’s a joke. The court battles will end up costing the tax payers huge money. Just like in California.

    Everytime I read about you guys wanting Dino Babers or other mainland coaches just makes me laugh. We don’t have the money to even afford his price as an assistant head coach. Get your checkbook out and donate money. Stop bitching. If I was Chow I’d be heading back to the mainland to collect his Million dollar plus paycheck. Some of you have been so disrespectful to him. Pound sand!

  82. obachan November 16, 2013 4:01 pm

    Nothing wrong with criticism. In order to post here, must one toe the party line? All head coaches know that criticism and arm chair QB’g go hand-in-hand with the job especially when the team loses so a “thick skin” is requisite for the job. I like Chow as a recruiter; not much as a head coach.

  83. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:25 pm

    Oh, don’t worry about anyone being silenced.
    People come back in many forms.
    That’s the beauty of knowing who each person is.
    But, anyway, the point I was going to make is that when somebody says “That’s it, I’m done,” then he can’t come back and keep talking about it. It’s like somebody saying, “That’s it, I’m outta here.” Then a half-hour, we all ask: “Uh, I thought you were out of here?”
    Boycott. Don’t boycott. I don’t really care. Just don’t talk about it over and over and over again.

  84. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:25 pm

    Or as the country song goes: How can we miss you if you don’t go away?

  85. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:32 pm

    Meanwhile, those unis look amazing.

  86. Boolakanaka November 16, 2013 4:33 pm

    69…FUAH, last time I looked, Mr. Lewis has not been in an iota of trouble for the last 14 years, whether you accept his previous incident to be alleged or not. For me, I much rather look at folks in the cumulative history, and not some splice in the aggregate. His entire history speaks for itself; both his place within the NFL and otherwise.

  87. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:34 pm

    What happened to those streamers?
    OK, what happened to newspaper programs to make streamers?

  88. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:37 pm

    We can see the numbers!
    Uh, oh, no names on the jerseys. Think Al Ginoza breaks even on this one.

  89. Jonj November 16, 2013 4:40 pm

    Polymom… Dino gets paid around $300000 at east illinious. I think he would glady relocate for chows salary. So take your own advice and pound sand becuz u were wrong about chow as a HC!

  90. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 4:43 pm

    PolyMom, I think former Rainbow Warrior player Coach Dino Babers is making less than $2000,000 a year as a head coach. I could be wrong though.

  91. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 4:46 pm

    Kickoff is at 5:30.

  92. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 4:49 pm

    Oooooppps, #94 should have been
    200K not $2million.

  93. PolyMom November 16, 2013 4:57 pm

    Babers now highest paid in athletic department
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    Posted: Monday, January 23, 2012 11:39 pm | Updated: 12:15 am, Tue Jan 24, 2012.
    By Alex McNamee/Staff Reporter | 2 comments
    Editor’s Note: This is the first story in an occasional series examining coaches’ salaries and budgets in the athletic department.
    New Eastern football head coach Dino Babers is slated to make $53,140 more annually than former head coach Bob Spoo made in his final contract, following the approval of his salary Friday.

    The Board of Trustees approved Babers’ three-year contract worth $170,000 per year – a total of $510,000 at the end of the deal.
    Babers was promised in his contract, which he signed Jan. 3, a handful of incentives that could be added onto his base salary – adding up to a potential bonus of $50,500, if he accomplishes all in one season.
    These incentives, which the contract calls “achievement compensation awards,” are one-time, lump sum payments; for example, if Babers earned one of the “awards” in his first season, he would receive that as a bonus, but his base salary would still be $170,000 the next year. The incentives are both academic- and performance-based.
    If at the end of any spring semester his team’s GPA is at or above 2.8, Babers will receive $2,000. Furthermore, Babers will receive $2,000 if the team’s Academic Progress Rate is at or above 950, starting with the 2013-2014 academic calendar.
    Academic Progress Rate is a statistic created by the NCAA to measure the success of college teams in moving student-athletes toward graduation.
    If the Panthers win seven games in a single season, Babers is promised $1,500; however if the team wins nine games, he will be given $3,000 instead.
    Babers will receive $3,000 for winning an outright regular season conference championship – only $1,500 if the team is co-champions with another school.
    Babers will receive $1,500 for being named Ohio Valley Conference Coach of the Year, as well as $5,000 more if he’s named the Sports Network FCS Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year, which is the Football Championship Subdivision’s national coach of the year award.
    Spoo won two OVC Coach of the Year awards, 2001 and 2005, and multiple other awards prior to 2001.
    For earning a spot in the FCS playoffs, Babers will receive $1,000, and will earn an additional $2,000 for each game played in beyond the first round.
    Babers will receive $5,000 for playing in the national championship game – an additional $10,000 for winning it.
    Based on the end-of-season rankings, Babers could earn $5,000 for being the No. 1 ranked team in the FCS Coaches Poll, $2,500 for placing in the top five or $1,000 for being in the top 25. These amounts are not cumulative; for example, Babers will not earn all three amounts for being the No. 1 team, rather only the $5,000.
    Babers will receive $2,500 per win against Football Bowl Subdivision teams. For example, Eastern played Northwestern this season but lost. Northwestern is an FBS school.
    Babers’ final incentive comes from summer camps. He will receive $2,500 at the conclusion of summer football camps on an annual basis if 150 overnight campers are housed in Eastern’s residence halls during the camps.
    Provided that Babers’ successfully completes all incentives, he could earn up to $220,500 in a single season.
    Babers is now the highest paid member of the athletic department. Athletic Director Barbara Burke makes $144,000 per year.
    Spoo’s last contract had him making $116,860 without any incentives.
    Spoo won at least a share of the conference title four times in his career. His team advanced to the NCAA first round seven times, and the quarterfinals once. The Panthers finished in the top 25 polls 10 times during his tenure.
    Babers’ three-year contract ends Jan. 1, 2015; however, if he’s still the coach Sept. 1, 2015, his base salary will increase to $185,000.
    Babers will announce his first Eastern recruiting class Feb. 1 on National Signing Day, and will start his career Aug. 30 at home against Southern Illinois-Carbondale.

  94. Jonj November 16, 2013 5:00 pm

    Polymom u hurt yourself with that article. Barbers only made $170000 a year. Chow earns 380000 more and has better incentives. Why wouldn’t he leave??

  95. PolyMom November 16, 2013 5:10 pm

    Keep reading Hon. Cost of living there is 25 percent for housing then here. Understand? Go look at housing cost there and in Hawaii. Huge difference. Plus he has several daughters. Then would have huge tuition bills. How much is Punahou and Iolani again?

  96. My take November 16, 2013 5:11 pm

    As negative as I am about the staff, I do believe this will be close and I hope I’m proven wrong in my pre ious prediction. I’m now settled down at my watering hole w about 18 others watching 18 flat screens. It’s spacious to say the least. The USC game was packed but not anymore.

  97. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 5:11 pm

    I think Eastern Illinois owes a lot of recruiting credit to Doris Sullivan.

  98. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2013 5:12 pm

    Isn’t the game showing for free?
    It’s always better to settle at home, in front of the big screen, and watch a game. No lines for the bathroom, either.

  99. PolyMom November 16, 2013 5:13 pm

    Babers has 4 daughters. Punhou x 4 = 100K plus the extras.

  100. Think2Much November 16, 2013 5:13 pm

    The early season success of the Wahine BB team and its improved performance last year is a good indicator of the impact of good coaching. A coach like Beeman, who had a proven, consistent record of winning, still has to prove herself in every new job since conditions are different but such coaches seem to know what it takes to win and are able to instill in their players. Coach Chow doesn’t have that pedigree as a head coach but certainly has the resume and the smarts to produce a consistent winner. Look at Cal Lee’s history as head coach where he started off 1-10 (?) but created a dynasty. Maybe the college level is a lot tougher, takes more time.

  101. boolakanaka November 16, 2013 5:14 pm

    85 With all due respect Polymom, while we should all maintain a decorum of respect and support for the the team, divergent opinion are also of high value to the discourse. Furthermore, to inject the Presidents health care plan, just months old in it passage, seems like a highly partisan and random analogy to bring into an exclusive sports conversation, and moreover is soley a non-sequitur, as it is not supported within the appropriate context and facts of the discussion. So, lets take an accurate look at history:

    A few weeks into the launch of the most sweeping health care reform law in a generation, John Boehner declared that the implementation was a disaster.

    “The implementation,” the Republican leader said, “has been horrendous. We’ve made it far more complicated than it should be.”

    Boehner, of course, was talking about the rollout of the new Medicare prescription drug benefit — known as Part D — enacted in 2003 by President George W. Bush. He discussed the implementation woes during a Feb. 6, 2006 appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” on his fifth day as House majority leader.

    But did he want to repeal the benefit? No. The future Speaker soberly acknowledged the problems but saw potential in the law and called for improving it. “The good news is that the competition that’s being created has lowered premiums significantly below where Congress thought they’d be when we put the bill together, so the competition side is good,” he said. “I think the implementation side continues to need to be improved.”

    It was a very rough time for the law’s proponents. The soft launch was “anything but smooth,” according to the Washington Post, marred by at least two delays along with other, deeper problems. (please note, more people, have signed up for Obama care than the schedule D at the same junction of time, on a per capita basis)Upon launch, the Bush administration admitted to receiving “tens of thousands of complaints by seniors, pharmacists and others” about implementation failures. Health and Human Services vowed to “fix every problem as quickly as possible.”

    Boehner was far from alone in pushing to fix the problematic law, rather than repealing or dismantling it. And his judgment was vindicated — the Medicare Part D program turned out to be a success, expanding medical coverage for millions of seniors at a lower cost than many expected. Today it is a fixture of the Medicare program. Fortunately for Bush and his party, Democrats were a willing partner in tweaking and improving the law.

    Nearly eight years later, Boehner leads a Republican Party that has taken a radically different approach to the troubled rollout of a new, ambitious health care reform law — this time enacted by a Democratic president. Four weeks into its pre-launch, Obamacare is under the gun for significant problems and glitches, and Republicans took turns excoriating the law during a GOP-led hearing Thursday. But while the Obama administration wants to fix the problems, a united GOP insists that the Affordable Care Act’s online enrollment woes suggest the law should be wiped off the books, or at least dismantled piece by piece.

    What Democrats are now saying about Obamacare — fix it, don’t nix it — sounds eerily similar to what many Republicans were saying on the dawning of Medicare Part D.

    “This is a huge undertaking and there are going to be glitches,” said Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) on Feb. 15, 2006. “My goal is the same as yours: Get rid of the glitches.”

    “Rather than trying to scare and confuse seniors, I would hope that we can work together as we go through the implementation phase to find out what is wrong with the program and if we can make some changes to fix it, let us do it and let us do it on a bipartisan basis,” Barton pleaded during an Energy & Commerce Committee hearing on March 6, 2006. “We owe that to all of the millions of Medicare beneficiaries.”

    Now, where the hell is Boola going with all this gooblegook? Well, I just want to paint a more complete picture, that the same platitudes and criticisms were almost exactly stated just 7 years prior on a similar subject. It is rather ironic, that depending where are true intentions and ideology lie, do we actually have patience and support for the things we view as important; whether that be politics and/or football.

  102. boolakanaka November 16, 2013 5:25 pm

    And again, Polymom, maybe you don’t mean it as offensive, but it certainly can be taken that way, when you make this rather putative assumption that the only quality education at the high school level is that of private school route; namely Punahou and Iolani. And while no doubt, these are fine schools, but there are not a singular option and should not be referred to as such. Much can be made from those of who have made an entire journey through public schools: from Dan Inouye to Ben Cayetano; so, please afford us a modicum of respect.

    I know for one, that being a a K-12 public school kid, who was raised in public housing, it is with some dismay that I read your post. This public school kid, had a JD, license to practice in three states, and a couple of other graduate degrees. Further, most of the folks I work with have similar backgrounds and pedigrees. I would ask you not to marginalize those of us who have disparate educational paths and history, as it is not so much where you start, but rather where your destination takes you, and what you are then willing to assist those who follow your footsteps.

  103. LizKauai (mbp) November 16, 2013 5:27 pm

    Mahalo, Tsai-kos! Lifting us up on Kauai!


  104. My take November 16, 2013 5:34 pm

    Yup it’s a Freebie!

  105. Matt November 16, 2013 5:35 pm

    Here we go game time!

  106. Warrior Dave November 16, 2013 5:44 pm


    Regarding JJ, never say never… The old UH administration is long gone.

  107. Matt November 16, 2013 6:02 pm

    3 offensive drives, 2 turnovers. Not going to win like that.

  108. Matt November 16, 2013 6:03 pm

    and just like that JHT recovers a fumble.

  109. Matt November 16, 2013 6:17 pm


  110. 3-Prong November 16, 2013 6:21 pm

    This is the week!

  111. Buffoman November 16, 2013 6:24 pm


  112. fshnpoi November 16, 2013 6:38 pm

    clarke needs to do better on snapping that ball or we better get under center…only bad things can happen w/snaps like he’s been making.

  113. slenzi November 16, 2013 6:39 pm

    Yeeee-Hawwww! Lets go Warriors!

  114. A-joe November 16, 2013 6:40 pm

    Boys playing with heart and pride tonight.

  115. slenzi November 16, 2013 6:44 pm

    I like PolyMom … you mean spirited people can back off and know your manhood is safe. But no style points for heaping da junks on PolyMom.

  116. A-joe November 16, 2013 6:46 pm

    Lizkauai– we love you!!!

  117. gobows November 16, 2013 6:47 pm

    They just quit on a play and sdsu ties it up.

    Riley Wallace is on the sidelines.

  118. gobows November 16, 2013 6:48 pm


    I say he’s wasted at CTR, move him to guard. Any other lineman can snap the ball.

  119. Bulla November 16, 2013 6:49 pm

    Liz Kauai
    From the Eastman Ohana, we love you and lift you and your ohana up. May the Warriors bring a victory and lift your spirits. Know that we are praying for peace for you.

  120. Slugger November 16, 2013 6:54 pm


    I hope you are able to watch the game.

    Harold Moleni! I knew you’d be contributing someday.

  121. Slugger November 16, 2013 7:00 pm

    Nice to see Coach Chow wearing the lei all through the game.

  122. wafan November 16, 2013 7:12 pm

    Go! Big! Green!

  123. gobows November 16, 2013 7:13 pm

    Al Noga coaching the boys in the huddles on TO’s

  124. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:23 pm

    Ok… So far so good.. SDSU’s only points came from a fluke play (no excuse for quitting on play after the offsides).

    Scott Harding has been very good in flipping the field position. That’s been huge. Still waiting for him to take off running on one of these punts…

    Now comes the dreaded 3rd quarter.

    Holy crap… Just saw the Auburn Hail Mary for 1st time today. Unbelievable.

  125. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 7:28 pm

    I thought I saw Al Noga on the sideline.

  126. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 7:32 pm

    Would like it if we could just fast forward to the 4th qtr. Just skip the 3rd qtr.

  127. PONO November 16, 2013 7:33 pm

    One more half of football for a WIN!

  128. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 7:34 pm

    Our middle linebackers seem to be blitzing just about every play. Hope SDS don’t exploit that by dumping passes over the middle.

  129. My take November 16, 2013 7:38 pm

    The passing game is anemic! I think The T – formation w St Juste taking a toss sweep would open up Iosepha between tackles. But what do I know being a couch coach!

  130. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:39 pm

    For you fight fans….

    UFC 167 Main Event: GSP vs Hendricks

    48-47 Hendricks,
    48-47 St Pierre
    48-47 for the winner by split decision…….

  131. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:40 pm

    Georges St Pierre retains Welterweight Title by SPLIT DECISION

  132. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:43 pm

    oh boy here we go…… Muema gets 3 first downs on 3 plays

  133. Buffoman November 16, 2013 7:43 pm

    Here we go. Third quarter big sleep.

  134. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:44 pm

    SDSU is manning up and running down UH’s throat on 1st drive of 3rd quarter.

  135. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:45 pm

    I see why SDSU is running the ball… SDSU’s QB stinks

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  137. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:49 pm

    And UH runs into kicker to erase good work on 3rd down… and SDSU picks up the first down.

    At this point of season, UH has run out of bullets after shooting themselves in the feet

  138. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:49 pm

    oh my god…

  139. wafan November 16, 2013 7:50 pm


    Dang it.

  140. Buffoman November 16, 2013 7:53 pm

    #141still look like we have a full magazine of bullets to continue to shoot our positive efforts.

  141. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:53 pm

    How did every LB get wiped out on that TD run? Marrell Jackson did his job and contained the edge to force the run back inside, but all 3 LBs weren’t in the same zip code. Zero pursuit.

  142. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:55 pm

    Yeah, Iosefa is a beast.

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  149. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:56 pm

    Lakalaka is a good player, but he just doesn’t move the pile like big #7.

    That 3rd down play was straight from the USC playbook…. and wow, did Iosefa light up the LB!

  150. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 7:59 pm

    This drive is exactly what UH needs… long, grinding, power football.

    UH has found something with Landkilde on the flat.

  151. wafan November 16, 2013 8:00 pm

    Dang it.

    Another ‘Bow down.

  152. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:01 pm

    yikes, Shigematsu down on turf… That’s two Right guards down tonight (starter Dew went out earlier)

    Just when the UH OLine was having some fun smashing SDSU, they lose another guy.

  153. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:02 pm

    This one hurts as there isn’t much more depth left on bench.

  154. WarriorNY November 16, 2013 8:02 pm

    Man, Watching Iosefa play these last couple weeks makes me wonder what if we had him all year…

  155. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:03 pm

    Oh boy… Hadden out for FG….

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  158. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:06 pm

    Jesus F-ing Christ…. another penalty takes UH out of FG range… Not that I had much hope Hadden was going to make it anyways… maybe better that Harding pinned SDSU deep.

    144… apparently the state of Hawaii doesn’t have magazine limitations for shooting yourself in the feet.

    At least Harding is having a monster game punting.

  159. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:07 pm

    This is the possession of the game for UH… If SDSU scores a TD on this drive, this game might spiral out of control.

  160. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:08 pm

    Nothing like 4 missed tackles to start the possession.

  161. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:08 pm

    make that 8 missed tackles on 2 plays.

  162. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:11 pm

    Blitz picked up by SDSU and just too much time to throw… even with the QB having happy feet.

  163. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:12 pm

    10 missed tackles on drive…

  164. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:14 pm

    As a side note…..

    Congrats to Under Armour for the retro uniforms… they show very well. I thank UA for giving us legible numbers on the backs.

    NEQUAN!!!!!! Wooo-hoooo

  165. wafan November 16, 2013 8:15 pm

    Byron must be smiling.

  166. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 8:16 pm

    Marshall Faulk?

  167. A-joe November 16, 2013 8:17 pm

    That fumble recovery was for UkuleleBoi! Compliments of Waimea’s pride, Siasau!

  168. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 8:18 pm

    UH first down. Yup, run up the middle.

  169. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:18 pm

    SDSU is so ripe for a playaction bomb

  170. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 8:18 pm

    171, A-joe~like!

  171. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:20 pm

    UH only lost the 3rdQ 0-7……. Jerry Jones would call that a moral victory

  172. Buffoman November 16, 2013 8:21 pm

    Its not pretty but if Joey can puond out 5 yards a pop, do it.

  173. obachan November 16, 2013 8:22 pm

    162 yes but you can bet your life that Hawaii limits you to 10 round max capacity on pistol mags

  174. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:23 pm

    Iosefa might break his attempt record from last week. He’s got 27 attempts through 3 quarters

  175. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:26 pm

    Langkilde is having a great game lead blocking and receiving

  176. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:29 pm

    oh my gosh SS got smashed on that play… gets up and keeps going

  177. wafan November 16, 2013 8:30 pm


  178. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:32 pm


    Touchdown UH on really well designed and executed dump pass to Iosefa.

    and the 2 dozen or so students in the student section go crazy.

  179. A-joe November 16, 2013 8:32 pm

    Here we gooooo!! Dig deep DEEE!!!

  180. wafan November 16, 2013 8:36 pm

    Big D!

  181. Slugger November 16, 2013 8:36 pm

    169 & 171 ~ My thoughts exactly.

    GO BOWS!!!

  182. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 8:37 pm

    Looks like families are back in the stands.

  183. mo808 November 16, 2013 8:38 pm

    Great job D!

  184. mo808 November 16, 2013 8:39 pm

    Rain Bows!

  185. LizKauai (mbp) November 16, 2013 8:39 pm


  186. A-joe November 16, 2013 8:39 pm

    179- FUHA- I agree!

  187. RB November 16, 2013 8:46 pm

    I got a feeling if Hawaii wins people are going to say it was the uniforms.

  188. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:46 pm

    WRs are having a tough time getting open in 2nd half… SS had nowhere to go on that 3rd down. SDSU decoyed a blitz and then dropped into coverage.

  189. My take November 16, 2013 8:49 pm

    It’s Chows game to lose. Too Conservative,,u lose!

  190. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:50 pm

    CMON DEFENSE… You actually had a chance to stop it and didn;t

  191. A-joe November 16, 2013 8:52 pm

    Here we go. Work some magic! Lets make memories Warriors!!

  192. Buffoman November 16, 2013 8:53 pm

    Wow. Defense need tackling drills.

  193. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 8:53 pm

    Ok Norm. Time to earn your pay!

  194. My take November 16, 2013 8:53 pm

    Kaumyer u dumb ass!!! 3 man front was begging for a run. Fire his ass!!!

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  206. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:56 pm

    Ok, moved the sticks… now it’s time to step on the gas…

  207. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:57 pm

    Wow… terrible officiating

  208. Eastcoast Warriorfan November 16, 2013 8:57 pm

    Spam much?

  209. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 8:59 pm

    193… that’s why Chow was conservative on the previous drive with the lead… SS can’t make the plays to win.

    At least they got a 1st down to milk some clock.

  210. wafan November 16, 2013 9:00 pm

    What the heck is up with the officials?

    They really want SDSU to win.

  211. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:00 pm

    Just be thankful SDSU has an equivalent talent QB as Schroeder…

    and they called a flag on Phillips?

  212. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:00 pm

    Finally, our First win of the season!!!!! Congrats men of Rainbow!!!!

  213. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:01 pm

    214… no kidding.

  214. wafan November 16, 2013 9:03 pm

    Oh my, oh my, oh my.

  215. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:06 pm

    Timeout before the first play of drive? ok….

    Yeah… that’s a smart play by SS to take the knee. Just nothing there deep on 1st play. Take it to OT.

  216. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:07 pm

    Congrats to Iosefa on his new record breaking 36th carry

  217. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:07 pm

    WE GOING WIN!!!!!

  218. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:08 pm

    Bring in Graham for the hail mary….

  219. Buffoman November 16, 2013 9:09 pm

    Wow what game are the refs watching?

  220. Slugger November 16, 2013 9:09 pm

    LET’S GO BOWS!!!

  221. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 9:09 pm

    Clock management is unbelievably horrible

  222. RB November 16, 2013 9:11 pm

    OT means Chow’s plays will be Iosefa right Iosefa left and Iosefa middle.

  223. A-joe November 16, 2013 9:11 pm

    UHfan808 just laid down the gaintlet-


  224. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:12 pm

    Could you imagine if Iosefa was playing a full season? Ride him and throw the short passes. WE GOING WIN!!!!!!!!!!!

  225. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:13 pm

    226.. That’s UH’s best chance to win.

  226. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:14 pm

    Did the LBs remember to get on the field this OT?

  227. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:14 pm

    Don’t hear/see any haters or lurkers! Ha ha! Where are you huys now!!!

  228. RB November 16, 2013 9:15 pm

    wow that was easy. Now UH’s turn lets see if they can do it..

  229. Hardy November 16, 2013 9:16 pm

    Enjoy the game!

  230. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:16 pm

    Somebody remind UH is playing in OT

  231. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:16 pm

    San Diego State is tired and pau. Ride Iosefa for the winning SCORE!!!!

  232. RB November 16, 2013 9:17 pm

    its over good game

  233. wafan November 16, 2013 9:17 pm

    Gosh darn it.

    So close.

  234. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 9:17 pm

    How did SDSU know that we were going to run up the middle on first down??????

  235. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:18 pm

    San Diego State is tired and pau. SCORE!!!!

  236. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:18 pm

    yikes… that was really ugly. Here come the trolls….

  237. Buffoman November 16, 2013 9:20 pm

    Defense not there when needed.

  238. sdbowfan November 16, 2013 9:20 pm

    No troll but someone who can call a spade a spade. Norm Chow needs to retire.

  239. Numba 1 Son November 16, 2013 9:22 pm

    Oh no…

  240. obachan November 16, 2013 9:22 pm

    trolling for any bottom fish by the name of Chow that is

  241. Chowpau November 16, 2013 9:23 pm

    Eh…. lose again? What’s new… Div III can beat you guys. You guys really suck!

  242. Tld November 16, 2013 9:23 pm

    Bobby Curran said they were booing at the end of the game

  243. WarriorNY November 16, 2013 9:24 pm

    I’m usually not one for saying officials are bad but the officials in this game were horrible… I’m not saying it influenced the outcome of the game one way or another… But the MWC should look at this game….

    Goodnight folks…

  244. jmor56 November 16, 2013 9:24 pm

    Are we really 0-10? Wow

  245. papajoe2 November 16, 2013 9:26 pm

    Kauai beats Iolani to reach the finals in DII football. Snaps Iolani’s 6 title win streak.

  246. Chowpau November 16, 2013 9:28 pm

    May UH can play Kauai and win 1 game. ha ha ha ha!

  247. Boya_jr November 16, 2013 9:28 pm

    I love our team fought to the end. Thanks for an entertaining night. 10 of my friends all watching this game in San Fran. I’m sad for the loss, but I can’t wait for next game. I don’t want the season to end.

  248. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 9:28 pm

    SDSU goes 3 runs to Muema, and have zero resistance to endzone in OT.

    Kaumeyer needs to go. The defensive breakdowns after halftime and now in this OT are just too much. 80% of the time, the defense does well… its the handful of complete breakdowns and penalties that kill the team.

    I don’t like to blame officiating because there are usually several other plays that swing a game, but this group of refs absolutely affected the game.

  249. RB November 16, 2013 9:31 pm

    252 I agree TK has to go.

  250. Chowpau November 16, 2013 9:31 pm

    CHOW = Can’t Hold On & Win

  251. markazulu November 16, 2013 9:32 pm

    I dont like the fact it takes 1 whole quarter for there to be adjustments because that 3rd quarter is when we let teams take the lead or put the game out of reach.

  252. markazulu November 16, 2013 9:35 pm

    on the bright side iosefa looks like a great back now to bad this season was a waste because he was out so long. Maybe he can get an exemption πŸ˜‰

  253. obachan November 16, 2013 9:36 pm

    Indeed, the refs in the Mtn West Conference are horrible. MWC officiating = Many Wrong Calls.

  254. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 9:36 pm

    We need new offensive and defensive coordinators. NOW!

  255. 808 warrior November 16, 2013 9:48 pm

    It’s Chow Time!

    Crowd was very frustrated and booed the coach.

    On their last possession before the over time, the coach did not realize to call a play and had to burn a tim out.

  256. Buffoman November 16, 2013 9:49 pm

    I was not so upset with the offense. They played well until Dew got hurt. That was a blow as timing was a bit off when he was not available.

    The penalty by KT was a turning point. I don’t know if we would have scored but they did and that turned some of the momentum away from us. He probably feels really bad but that is howcthings have gone for us. He’s a freshman and it was a mistake. He’ll not makecit again for sure.

    The defense was not up to par again. The linebacker play was not consistent and when they were out of position we paid dearly.

  257. 808 warrior November 16, 2013 9:53 pm

    Jack Flash

    It is not the coordinators. It’s the head coach.

    Chow needs to act and be the head coach.

  258. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 9:54 pm

    I feel bad for the players. They are trying their best with the horrible coaching they are receiving. It just sucks.

  259. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 9:56 pm

    Chow blew it late in the 4th quarter. How could he not know the frikken clock was running?

  260. 808 warrior November 16, 2013 9:59 pm

    It is time for Chow to have people around him succeed.

    The players need to succeed.

    The fans need the team to succeed.

    The families of the team need to succeed.

    At least Coach Mac did a better job.

  261. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 16, 2013 10:05 pm

    Had this been a game of horseshoe, id say we were close and did well.

    Hawaii’s coaching staff needs a massive overhaul. Cannot wait for this season to be put behind us.

  262. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 16, 2013 10:08 pm

    One of the best play calls of the game was the play-action pass with 26 seconds and 80 yards to go in the 4th.

    We only fooling ourselves.

  263. PolyMom November 16, 2013 10:10 pm

    #106 in all due respect we will have to agree to disagree.if you go back and look at these UH Coaches kids have gone to private school.
    I’m sorry I watched several days of the legislation in Hawaii. The sadness of the name calling, personal attacks I saw all over was way over the top! It broke my heart. Sorry but did you watch the House Amendment hearings? It really was atrocious. And I respectfully disagree with you that the Obama Care bill was rushed through with so little discussion. Even Barry, yes Barry I went to school with him has apologized. Many of those who pushed the bill through are now disengaging from the administration. Why? Many Americans have been hurt by this policy. I’m Sure you are one of the fortunate ones who still has their insurance. We do to. With no drastic rise in price. But it was heartbreaking for me to hear from son #2 who is employed at USC that his Kaiser Plan will be going up 175 bucks a month. You should know when you start in the academia world your pay is very low. That’s a big hit for him.
    Heck did you read in the NY Times that the model on the splash page for the government site has been getting death threats? She’s a model for heaven sakes! Why were the insurance big wigs escorted from the WhiteHouse meeting through the back door yesterday? Millions in California have been sent cancelation notices. Now what?
    Americans thought they were getting a single payer plan. But no it was not. They feel cheated. Have you read the 2400 page of legislation. Let’s say this when CNN, and the main stream media CBS, NBC and even ABC are covering this story daily, this is BIG news!
    If you’ve ever worked with the government like my husband has, and the RFPs are changed on a daily basis it should have been postponed one year ago. We can’t keep throwing more good money to fix what they have no idea in what is going on. But I give Barry big kudos for taking the blame and trying to postpone this for another year. But the insurance companies do not have time to back track.and he can’t change the policy without Senate and Congressional hearings. The clock is ticking and ticking fast.
    BTW one thing we can agree on is the Warriors looked great tonight. I know that last personal foul hurt the big boy. I’m expecting texts soon. But the improvement of the team grows every week. I’m proud of them. And the running game was just WOW tonight. Gotta run, getting text from the boy who needs emotional support.
    Aloha to you and yours.

  264. PolyMom November 16, 2013 10:14 pm

    BTW my boy is blaming himself for that last personal foul. He feels so bad.

  265. Jack Flash November 16, 2013 10:24 pm

    Your boy should not blame himself. They lost due to poor coaching, plain and simple.

  266. Think2Much November 16, 2013 10:32 pm

    The play action fake & pass, used once too often. There should be another plays to keep the defense honest. The SDSU runners, except for no. 40, weren’t big but the were moving the pile. One really bad pass interference no-call for SDSU. How can the refs be that far off? Regardless, this was a smash mouth football game and Hawaii can be proud even though another loss. Could not stop the run around the ends (all season). Too many game changing mistakes that SDSU took advantage off and Hawaii couldn’t. Let’s hope lady luck will smile on the Rainbows in the next two games.

  267. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 10:37 pm

    The OLine has responded well with Iosefa’s return. That’s two really good weeks in a row where the run game got going. Too bad the QB talent just isn’t there to balance it out. Next year’s QB situation doesn’t look overly promising either based on how Graham and Woosley have looked in their limited time. Tuileta might be a game manager at best, and he’s unlikely to be ready to start as a freshmen anyways.

    I know Chow is not relying on JC transfers for recruiting (which is very good for the program long term), but he may need to bring in JC QB to add to the depth, because the 2014 starting QB position appears to be going to the guy who sucks the least with the returnees. I’m not sold on any of the returnees next year.

    The modern football world requires good QB play to have winning programs.

    Just running down the top 25 and their QBs,

    1 Alabama 9-0 – McCaren – rock solid
    2 Florida St 9-0 – Winston – Best QB in the nation in my opinion
    3 Ohio State 9-0 – Miller – dynamic + adequate passer
    4 Stanford 8-1 – Hogan – subpar QB
    5 Baylor 8-0 – Petty – good system QB
    6 Oregon 8-1 – Mariota – elite talent
    7 Auburn 9-1 – Marshall – terrible thrower, good runner
    8 Clemson 8-1 – Boyd – top talent
    9 Missouri 9-1 – Franklin/Mauk – both quality college QBs
    10 South Carolina 7-2 – Shaw – quality college QB
    11 Texas A&M 8-2 – Manziel – Johnny Football
    12 Oklahoma State 8-1 – Cheif – quality system QB
    13 UCLA 7-2 – Hundley – Top talent (overrated in my opinion)
    14 Fresno State 9-0 – Carr – very solid
    15 Northern Illinois 9-0 – Lynch – fantastic college QB
    16 Michigan State 8-1 – Cook – he has surprised MSU fans with good play
    17 UCF 7-1 – Bortles – solid
    18 Oklahoma 7-2 – Bell – struggled vs good teams, but he’s solid
    19 Arizona State 7-2 – Kelly – rock solid
    20 Louisville 8-1 – Bridgewater – top talent
    21 LSU 7-3 – Mettenburger – good, not great QB
    22 Wisconsin 7-2 – Stave – easiest QB job in NCAA with their run game
    23 Miami (FL) 7-2 – Morris – top talent, but draft stock is plummeting
    24 Texas 7-2 – McCoy – decent college QB
    25 Georgia 6-3 – Murray – top talent

    only Stanford and Auburn have subpar QBs in the entire top 25 (as of today). Both QBs are protected with elite offensive lines and powerful run games.

    Basically, unless you have elite talent up and down the roster, you can’t succeed without a quality QB in modern football. Fresno would have at least 3 or 4 losses with their defense if not for Carr carrying that team. The 2007 Hawaii team probably has 4 losses (@SJSU, @Nevada, vs Boise, vs Washington) if not for Brennan carrying the load.
    Boise St is one of the few programs that still wins year in and year out without a good QB.

  268. Boya_jr November 16, 2013 10:38 pm

    Could we schedule Cal for an end of the season game in Honolulu?

  269. Slugger November 16, 2013 10:41 pm

    I still support the team. It’s college football, gang. They are improving. It’s what you look for in your own kids.

    Saui, that was awesome. Byron is proud of you.

    Get ready for the next game & enjoy watching it. Pretty soon we’ll have a dearth of football & you’ll be bored. Enjoy it while they are still playing.


  270. ChowIsPau November 16, 2013 10:54 pm

    rough one. Even I don’t want 0-12.

    Chow is pau though! Told you!

  271. A-House November 16, 2013 10:57 pm

    as the clock wound down, UH had ball, with less than 55 seconds, I turned to MasaBoy and said, “that Chow is playing for OT and UH would lose – why?

    SDSU in the 2nd half could move the ball nearly at will while UH struggled – any OT favors SDSU, period!!!!!!!!!!

    for the 10th straight game, coaches lost the game

  272. WarriorFan November 16, 2013 11:02 pm

    So close, but another heartbreaking loss. The players are playing their hearts out; if any fans are questioning that, they should stop watching college football, period.

    Coaching, on the otherhand – Again, we’re faced with a lifetime assistant coach given a chance to be a head coach. Some assistant coaches are just that, great assistants! The role of a head coach is extremely demanding and life consuming. Chow often looks confused or befuddled on the sidelines.

    Ben Jay, be a STRONG leader. Cut your losses before they grow exponentially.

    Go Rainbow Warriors!

  273. A-House November 16, 2013 11:02 pm

    net game is at Wyoming and it will be a loss because of the altitude and cold – it will be the same old story where “coaching” will make the difference

    I still can’t figure out why Chow decided to hire such young, inexperienced assistant coaches – one would think that if it’s a first HC job, surround yourself with experienced coaches to help you be successful

    again, I am disappointed in the DC who supposedly with NFL credentials would make a huge difference in teaching his assistants and players to become better – either the coaches are not doing their job or the players are NOT listening and doing their own thing or both

  274. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 11:25 pm

    260… I thought the line play was ok after Dew went out, but it definitely dropped off when his replacement Shigematsu got hurt later.

    As far as the last couple drives of regulation, I don’t have a big issue with them regarding play calling. On the 2nd to last drive, critics complain that the playcalling was too conservative… UH was leading by 7, and was smashing the ball down SDSU’s throat. There’s no reason to air it out/take chances in that situation when SDSU had trouble stopping Iosefa and UH’s defense was making stops the previous few drives. Do you really want to air it out with SS, who was having a poor day in terms of accuracy?

    On the last drive in regulation… definitely no reason to burn a TO before 1st play, but SS did do the smart thing and take the sack because he had nobody open to throw to and you must not take a risk with the ball in that situation. Since the game was tied, and the ball in UH territory… after a failed 1st play, the correct move was to make safe throws to advance the ball and maybe you get one shot in the endzone. Again, you cannot risk a turnover in that situation that would give SDSU a shot to win in regulation… so playing for OT was correct move after nothing on the 1st play.

    For offseason heading into 2014….

    I think the offense side will be fine if UH is willing hire an experienced OC, QB coach, and/or WR coach to take the load off Chow. For goodness sakes, UH doesn’t have an OC, QB coach, or WR coach on the staff. An OC can double up as a position coach, but having the QBs and WRs without a specific coach helping them out on a daily basis is just moronic. Grad assistants aren’t experienced enough to get by with them.

    Defensively, it’s obvious UH has talent there and it’s only getting better. However, I am now convinced Kaumeyer needs to go. I usually wait until year 3 to start making serious opinions on coaching, but the constant 3rd quarter meltdowns defensively have been just about every game. I like that Kaumeyer’s aggressive style, but it is not disguised well and offenses have been adjusting continually to successfully counter TK’s defense after halftime. Some of blame goes on the players for making mistakes, and that happens, but the mistakes have been persistent each week. Also 3rd down has been a backbreaker this year on defense. They just can’t get out of their own way on 3rd down.

    As much as I like NeQuan Phillips, he takes too many chances when he’s on an island in man. With no safety help, you just can’t get beat deep or allow inside release. You need to keep the WR on your outside shoulder and take the passing angle away. If it means giving up a 5 yard hitch, then make the tackle and move on. TK & D. Jones needs to remind NeQuan of this. I love NeQuan’s physicality and aggressiveness, but he needs to be taught when to take chances.

    UH was able to prevent SDSU from scoring on 1st drive in 3rdQ, but UH defense was not prepared for football when Muema went 35yards on 3 plays to start the drive. That is what’s disturbing.

    Also the OT defense was a complete no show… Muema carried 3 times and had the easiest TD of his career with no resistance.

  275. 3-Prong November 16, 2013 11:29 pm

    Close but no cigar again this week. We get em next week!

  276. Former UH Athlete November 16, 2013 11:47 pm

    277.. RE young/inexperienced coaches… part of it is budget issues. Chow is getting paid nothing as HC and assistants are also getting paid well below median income for their positions. Plus the cost of living is way expensive in Hawaii, so the already subpar pay shrinks more vs equivalent jobs on mainland.

    When you pay in peanuts, you get monkeys. or something like that…

    Just some perspective… according to USA Today, the average salary for FBS assistant coaches is about $200,000.

    A look at Boise State’s 2009 assistants then and now (From USA Today)

    NAME__________IN 2009 AT BOISE STATE______________ THIS SEASON
    Justin Wilcox __ $224,466 as defensive coordinator — $750,004 as Washington defensive coordinator
    Bryan Harsin___ $223,466 as offensive coordinator — $700,000 as Texas offensive coordinator
    Chris Strausser_ $204,725 as run game coord/TE coach $324,100 as Boise State associate HC and OL coach
    Brent Pease___ $183,590 as asst HC and WR coach — $600,000 as Florida offensive coordinator
    Jeff Choate____ $171,697 as LB and ST coach ——- $212,000 as Washington State linebackers coach
    Pete Kwiatkowski$164,473 as defensive line coach —– $341,404 as Boise State defensive coordinator
    Marcel Yates___ $154,156 as defensive backs coach—- $306,000 as Texas A&M co-DC and DB coach
    Scott Huff _____$141,087 as offensive line coach —–$246,956 as Boise State TE and special teams
    Keith Bhonapha $109,493 as running backs coach —–$159,312 as Boise State RB coach and recruiting coordinator

    By comparison, Aaron Price was slated to make abut $120k.. Kaumeyer about $120k also. The other position assistants are paid much less.

  277. Dan Nagami November 16, 2013 11:55 pm

    #277….hard to get experienced assistants for low-budget pay. But if Chow is still here next year, there must be a shake-up on the staff. If Chows not gonna take the fall, someone on his staff needs to.

  278. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2013 12:20 am

    thought I read somewhere that TK’s salary was in the 192 – 199K range.

    can anyone add to this salary question ?

  279. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2013 12:22 am

    on DEF side, need a DC and a LB coach. imo.

  280. ai-eee-soos November 17, 2013 12:29 am

    on OFF side – need plenty help. (coaching)

    The new OC or Offensive Assistant has to also be a good/excellent position coach.

    need RB, WR, QB coaching help. imo.

  281. MattO November 17, 2013 12:54 am


    And the boys played so hard.

    I agree with A-House: coaching failed them in the 4th, particularly with 2:30 left and in OT. I can’t remember when I’ve seen a game where the losing team won the turnover battle 4-2.

    Time to finish out the season and reassess our leadership.

  282. just saying November 17, 2013 5:01 am

    Dont know what it is but we seem to always have bad luck or bachi, maybe we should get somebody to bless the team.

  283. PolyMom November 17, 2013 5:37 am

    It’s the negativity and hate all over Hawaii that his this team losing games. The community reds Hooponopono. They need to do it and do it fast. It’s a football team. Not life or death.

    I’m sorry I blame Ben a Jay. Where are those big donors? Where is the community involvement? Sorry he was all talk and no action. I’m done with him.

  284. PolyMom November 17, 2013 5:39 am

    Thanks FormerUHAthlete, that was my point.
    And add the high cost of living here we don’t pay squat!

  285. Moocher November 17, 2013 5:57 am

    i think we are seeing that the bigger problem may TK on defense. the offense is ok, not the greatest, but ok. i can imagine chow and TK will go at it with chow saying the defense has to hold. in my opinion chow is the overall fall guy since he is the head coach, but chow is also taking heat because TK’s defense is giving up too many big plays, committing really embarrassing and costly mental errors, and it seems after half time the opposition adjusts and our defense does not really do so.

  286. wingt November 17, 2013 6:01 am

    We have good athletes that don’t know how to win. That’s on the head coach. It is sad but the real outcome from this game showed that coach Chow doesn’t have the “it” to win.

  287. wasabi November 17, 2013 6:18 am

    FUHA…You listed salaries of coaches in other conferences…the only team in the MWC you listed was Boise…Chow is a terrible leader, there are plenty of competent coaches out there that are making less and doing more. Polymom, funny you blame Ben Jay and not Chow. Ben Jay didn’t hire Chow. If he doesn’t get rid of Chow it will be impossible to raise money for the athletic program.

  288. Former UH Athlete November 17, 2013 6:32 am

    wasabi… Boise pays their assistants the best in conference… the other good teams are a little lower, but not significantly lower. Fresno pays their coordinators in the $160-$190k range if I’m not mistaken. That’s still about 40-50% better than what UH is paying, before you get into cost of living.

    I think UH, UNLV, New Mexico and SJSU are the lowest paid coaches in MWC – I don’t have numbers to support. But looking back over the decades these programs have always had problems generating a winning program.

    the point is it’s not easy to land a good coach when the pay is low. You get what you pay for in most cases.

  289. Buffoman November 17, 2013 7:17 am

    Last night SS was throwing the long ball like he did not want to get intercepted. Just overthrowing Gant on the streak too many times. His long completion to Harding was under thrown and we got lucky. He was struggling after that first interception.

    That was probably one of the reasons we kept pounding the ball, with some success until Dew got hurt. I was tough sledding when Dew got hurt.

    I think that the linebacking play has gotten worse. Maybe they are taking too many chances and not playing on their assignments but we seem to be out of position on many of those long runs by opponents.

    Regarding the comments on pay for assistant coaches. I agree that we are handicapped by what we pay and Chow did what he thought best when he first assembled his staff. It is a greater gamble as pay does determine who is available who has contacts to recruit, who can motivate and teach, who has experience and the like. Many of the coaches have been excellent in recruiting.

    I am in agreement that some changes need to be made on staff. And like a wise poster said previously, it is a game, we are fans and we need to support the team. ultimately, Ben Jay is the boss and it is his decision as to what happens to this “subsidiary”.

    I enjoy watching the team. I get frustrated but, I still look forward to watching them play on Saturdays and support the team.

  290. Former UH Athlete November 17, 2013 7:32 am

    If nothing else, this might be the most exciting winless team in history. Mostly very competitive games. Lots if action.

    Just glad we aren’t gettin blown off the field like last year. So if there’s any upside to 0-10, that’s it.

  291. Former UH Athlete November 17, 2013 7:43 am

    Buffoman… SS played very poorly yesterday. On the one deep ball to Harding that was grossly underthrown, in SS’s defense, he was absolutely smashed by an unblocked blitzer. Pretty amazing he wasn’t hurt because he took the full force of a big guy hitting him at full speed while he was unprotected. SS was basically folded in half.

  292. frustratedRaBoWar November 17, 2013 8:17 am

    this is what makes me angry. SDSU came into to town, had a four day vacation complete with tours, hanging at the beach and the hotel pool. walked into Aloha Stadium, played like crap and got the win. Its a total shame. A mediocre team like SDSU playing really badly (that QB was worse than SS) and we cannot make them pay. SDSU should have gotten spanked last night. Chow needs to go day after Army.

  293. frustratedRaBoWar November 17, 2013 8:18 am

    I forgot an important point. SDSU was totally over confident and flat. We should have beaten them.

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