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It should be no surprise players seeking to transfer from four-year schools are considering Hawai as a destination. Since Norm Chow was hired as UH coach in December 2011, these players became Warriors:
> Kaeo Alo, defensive lineman, Utah
> Duke Bukoski, receiver, Idaho State
> Jeremy Castro, linebacker, UCLA
> Nick Childs, defensive lineman, Avila
> Josh Gist, defensive back, Greensboro
> Taylor Graham, quarterback, Ohio State
> Ryan Hall, tight end, Duke
> Keahi Hogan, safety, Arizona
> Marcus Langkilde, running back/fullback, Whittier
> Daniel Masifilo, receiver/cornerback, Arizona State
> Jason Muraoka, running back, Franklin
> Quinton Pedroza, slotback, Utah
> Jordan Pu‘u-Robinson, tight end/defensive end, Washington State
> Kory Rasmussen, defensive tackle, Colorado
> Kapua Sai, offensive lineman, Utah
> Ceejay Santos, kicker, Weber State
> Sean Schroeder, quarterback, Duke
> Austin Slade-Matautia, tight end, Oregon State
> Iuta Tepa, defensive end, UCLA
> Haani Tulimaiau, defensive lineman, Montana
> Joe Uglietto, kicker, Colgate
> Brenden Urban, center, Adams State
> Willis Wilson, running back, Washington
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GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
So who is coming NOW?!
Good morning Stephen!
If you don’t care for where you are, you should really look at Hawaii. There is no better place.
Read the above list….NONE of the players listed have been program turners….
They are listed way down the depth chart……
Isleboy is a doofus.
The fact is some local kids just want to leave our islands but many of us end up wanting to come back… I believe making them feel like they have a great chance to play at home is important to making us a long term success.
True not many of the above players are “impact” players but as the numbers increase so will the quality. Thus far most of the “big” recruits out of Hawaii have stayed at their respective schools and have done well or chose to stay on the mainland. Next year’s recruiting class is said to be the best at least on paper in a long time if not ever. That being said I don’t think it would be a stretch that a couple of them don’t get the shot they are looking for or get home sick and want to come home.
Of course having a winning team could help immensely…..
common saying in Hawaii… Come come come but no forget to go home!
Well in athletics mainly fooball…. we should start saying, GO GO GO, BUT NO FORGET TO COME HOME!
hilo:
Bu La‘ia once said: I’m not homeless, I’m houseless, cuz Hawaii is my home.”
Stay stay stay, but if you go, go without burning bridges.
TSAI: Love the Bu quote! Exactly… this is our team our home bruddahs always welcome home!
Bugaz: good point… something a walk on at USC neva learn
Also, Kinda of Sort of..
2012-2013:
Clark Evans (Colorado then Cerritos College then Hawaii)
Tony Grimes (Ole Miss then Arizona Western then Hawaii)
2012 only:
Chaz Bajet (via Pacific University in Oregon)
Starr Sua-Passi (via St Francis in Pennsylvania)
Charles Clay-SMU
Charles Clay was at UH in 2011. But, for sure, he had a good year in 2013.
A change of scene/programs is what drives some of these transfers. And the old adage, “There’s no place like home” brings some of them back. In any case, glad to have them as Warriors.
Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day..before the rains..
now, ST that was a very provocative title
and from ST and me, YIPPIEEEEEEEEEE!!! hip, hip hooray, hip, hip at last, our roads have been newly paved for the 1st time in my 38 years in the valley
as the little, chubby boy says in TV ads, “things are looking up”!
same can be said about the rainbow Warrior football team -go get ‘um coaches – make us believers again!!!!!!
#12 – I don’t understand. Did someone burn his bridges at UH when deciding to walk on at USC? Did I miss something? Is that what coach Chow said? Did the AD Ben Jay say that. Auwe, if they did.
ST: The homeless advocates have adopted bruddah Bu’s philosophy. The term “houseless” is currently the trendy word bandied about at the state capitol when referring to the homeless situation.
By the way, what animal is never “houseless?”
Yesterdays blog was sort of question marks on Mr. Gouveia’s ability to coach…and I guess with good reason..as his experience so far is limited…
Me heard said that Mr. K’s….speech etc..is very compelling.. n if one listens to him speak..that
one would go through a brick wall for him…yet still wonder….why our defense was not to good last year…maybe to emotional.. when calm and confidence should be used???
As for Mr. Gouveia…I will say this…I AM ALMOST 100% CERTAIN… that no matter what offense you throw at him.. or what scheme you may use….or formation…he would have seen it before…
So… when our offense is on the field….maybe a few calm words from your linebacker coach.. n knowledge.. will be very beneficial…that is experience…it is a whole new ball game for our linebackers that will experience this year…for those of you that like to bet…put money on it…
Not to many with much playing experience, get to be super coaches…but this could be his start…hope so…IMUA….
with all these transfers and recruits, why aren’t we better than a 1 or 2 win team.
#23:
well grasshopper, the grass does not always bend to us – sometimes, we need to go to the grass
and, lava does not always flow down hill – just ask all those who witnessed lava moving up hill and over a rise on the Big Island about 7 years ago
it’s about coaching grasshopper – play calling, offensively and defensively, contributed heavily to all the losses
and, just because a certain QB coach called the Iosefa jump pass for a TD does not make him an innovator or “out-of-the-box” thinker – was it a good call?, hell yes! but I saw Tebow do this against Hawaii when we went to the Swamp.
Hmmmn, there are actually a great many coaches who have had stellar professional careers and had noteworthy coaching lives, from Art Shell to Fred Biletznokof, to Wille Brown to Henry Ellard to Jack Del Rio to Adrian Klemm. I don’t think it is so much an issue of know how, as opposed to whether they have the gumption to coach and the want to dedicate the exorbitant amount of hours associated with the profession.
Tuileta hasn’t signed anything so I’m sure if he wanted to go to UH it’s still possible. Plus, UH volleyball has an offer on the table.
People should do what makes them happy.
I’m not sure what makes or doesn’t make a good coach. If you’re a good recruiter does that make you a good coach? When I was growing up, everyone said Gene Mauch was a great manager. He never won anything but he was widely praised. I don’t think there’s any standard measurement.
#19 it is my opinion that by changing hats and signing LOI change last minute it definately burned bridges. Maybe not directly with the coaches but fans and teammates will always know what he did. I agree with Tsai that he must do what is best for him for him and his Ohana but the timing of the whole thing could have been done differently.
27. Good recruiter is def part of being a good coach. Probably half the battle of being a good assistant coach in college these days.
A good number of the people above will be eligible this football season due to the transfer rule and off of red shirt years. It has been said Pedroza, Castro and Rasmussen will be impact players this season. I’m hoping Sai will also improve the oline play.
This is the year that it must all come together for Chow or the consequences will be retirement or buyout.
Wrong four play. I was thinking of, um, er, uhh, golf.
All coaches are good, unless they are bad.
Happy camel day.
#28 Hilosupaman,
PIAA is responsible for the UH logo on his name plate as he didn’t tell them he was going to USC. ST reported that Chow and Tuileta had a discussion the night before LOI day. Based in that discussion, Tuileta was not give an UH LOI letter to sign. As a preferred walk on, there is no letter to sign. Therefore, it was not known what he was signing. For all we know it was a blank sheet for paper. He then put on the USC hat to meet with family and media.
Based on the last minute discussion between both parties, Chow is probably upset and rightfully so. Not sure if he would accept Tuileta on the team. However, ST said Charlie Wade has an offer in the table to him. I’m guessing it must be close to a full ride to play VB. Not sure whether he’ll accept. If he does, not sure if he’ll go out for football based on his discussion with Chow.
29… Recruiting is almost half the job… Coaching is almost the other half… the other slice of the pie is fundraising & media obligations.
30… The OLine guys coming off redshirts sound pretty exciting from what Tsai and others have reported throughout last season. Future appears good on the OLine front.
Maybe he will accept Mr. Wades offer .. n walk on for football here ??
Yes Kanaka… Spurrier m Lombardi comes to mind…
The reason it’s never good for outsiders to prod someone to go some place is what happens if the guy obliges and doesn’t play?
That’s why: To each his own.
If you’re old enough to go to college, you’re old enough to decide which college to attend.
Behind the scenes rumor is undercover conversations with June Jones to return to hawaii as coach and Rolo as OC and head coach in training.
How can this even be a rumor? UH sued JJ and the place is the same wreck (if not worse) than when he left. Fool JJ once, shame on UH; fool JJ twice, shame on JJ.
28, nobody signs a LOI to walk on. What did that guy sign? Hell if I know, but it was NOT a LOI.
This is a bad analogy, but coaches are like car dealerships. Part of the process is getting someone to buy the car. The other part is what happens after that. Are they helpful in making sure you maintain the car, that the ownership experience is enjoyable?
Anyway, if you’re an athlete who is going to school on a scholarship, you’d better come away with something: Degree, playing time, employment contacts, girlfriend. Something. I mean, use the system. Because the real world is a lot more stressful.
32 & 33, as was stated on LOI day, you cannot play football while on schollie of another sport.
32.. in any case, Beau Reilly looks way better than Tuileta on the videos I could find. So I think UH got the better deal. IMO, Tuileta looks like a 1-2 year project before being ready to compete for the starting job.
Reilly looks like he can compete for the job right away. Even if he doesn’t win the job, Beau could potentially redshirt, then he and Zwahlen (assuming he honors his UH commitment) will both be freshmen competing for the future QB job. UH will be in good shape at QB in the future.
As for next season, I’m not partial to any one QB, I just want the starter to be the most consistent player in spring and fall camp. I think the Oline will be better and hopefully Iosefa stays healthy. He proved to be very productive even with a below-average line last season.
I think the offense will be fine and will score enough to win several games…. Pretty sure everybody has their fingers crossed that Clune & co. can turn around the defense immediately. That’s the only way UH can meet expectations next year.
But you can play other sport ..while on football schollie??? wow seems strange huh ??
Hopefully we can add Wittek to that list soon.
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Mean joe green
#41 – the rule says simply you must be on scholarship in the sport that has the most scholarships to give which is always football. It is to keep teams from doing what UCLA softball did a few years back when they put softball players on soccer scholarships (they got caught and had to give up their title.)
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Shoji gets an “extra” scholarship because adolpho falls under basketball.
Miami used to give soccer and track scholarships to 2 sport football players to cheat the system.
44
Ucla softball had an ace named tanya harding (not the skater) from australia, she never attended any classes. She was ruled ineligible and ucla later vacated the title.
ST, Jeezy or anyone:
Who will be the impact players this year?
Of all the new players, red-shirts, etc. Here is my guess:
4 star LB Jeremy Castro
4 star WR Quinton Pedroza
3 star DE Kory Rasmussen
3 star WR Don’yeh Patterson
3 star RB Daniel Lewis
3 star RB DJ Riggins
3 star S Jerrell Jackson
WR Darrian Josey
MLB Simon Poti
WR Devan Stubblefield
LB Jahlani Tavai
OL Elijah Tupai
OL John Waa
OL Leo Koloamatangi
OL Dejon Allen
OL RJ Hollis
40. The problem with that is I’m sure you have watched a Punahou game or 2. People in Hawaii have gotten a chance to see the good and bad plays that Tuileta has made. Reilly only has a “highlight” tape. Which displays the highlight plays he has made. No one has really gotten a chance to see his weaknesses.
As far as upside and talent goes, Reilly probably has a higher ceiling. I am happy with what the pick up. But I don’t think its fair for anyone to say he is better than Tui based on a highlight tape and never actually seeing a whole game played. Not to mention he hasn’t played football in 2 years. One thing you can’t judge about Tuileta in his tape is his leadership, pocket presence, and how smart of a kid he is.
47. Nice list but I think Patterson and Riggins are more future guys. If Patterson has any impact, it would be similar to Kwamane Bowens as a FR.
I would probably add Tui Unga to the list of guys who can help very soon… I think Tavai is going to be a big time player someday. Not sure how soon though.
So as it stands now, Tuileta may play VB for UH but will not play football since his FB scholarship offer was pulled. Unless he comes to UH as a walk on and plays both. Highly unlikely scenario. Since Wade has an offer, he may play VB only due to NCAA rule for this upcoming year. Chow or 2015 Coach could always provide a scholarship next year.
Josey looks like the fastest recruit so I think you’re accurate in him getting on the field somehow. All coaches love speed.
50. If Wade wants Tui bad enough, Tui has enough leverage to say he will sign if Wade lets him play football. Only thing is I think Tui would have to skip 2014 season of football to play Volleyball 1st. Then would have to walk on in 2015. Could be wrong though.
According to the blog host, Rasmussen may be playing offense instead of defense, so may have a learning g curve there. I think he would provide us with depth on either side of the ball.
Hence why Stubblefeild is on FB scholie rater than BB & freeing up another FB scholie.
Tom- I’m hoping luke shawley makes an impact as well.
47, might add-
Luke Shawley
Malachai Mageo
#52:
say your game plan worked for Tui
what will happen to the VB scholarship should he gain a football scholarship in 2015? Give Wade an extra leverage to pay more for each player?
Please read #39 regarding playing dual sports. The scholarship has to come from the sport with the higher number of scholarships.
#48- nice post. So many people have made bold predictions on Reilly’s future as our QB. Time away from the game will require his re acclimation to the speed on the field. Remember guys, he last played high school football two years ago. TG was a big time recruit, had experience practicing with a top Div 1 program and then UH, and still displayed problems with game speed (Chow’s words). Let him redshirt and then see what he can do.
47 add
DE David Manoa
S Keelan Ewaliko
Tui is not going to change his mind to UH. He is a trojan now, what’s done is done. I’m sure he already spoke and made a deal with USC on his preference to be a dual sport athlete and he wouldn’t have chosen them if they didn’t agree.
Tui will be under the same rules if he goes to USC. If he gets a volleyball scholarship he won’t be able to play football, walk-on or not. If he plays for free, he can do both. Right?
47 add CB Barry Higdon
62–Not quite. Nothing prohibits him from playing another sport, except perhaps the HC of the sport offering him the original scholarship. The wrinkle is that if he is, say on a schollie for vball, and then plays also football, he will count against the 85 schollie number for football, regardless of the fact that his is on a volleyball scholarship.
Got it.
How about the freshman redshirt freshman…Is he able to unseat the incumbent placekicker or punter??? Both incumbent kickers truly underperformed, so I think the competition will be wide-open in training camp.
#47 Gary Beemer
Howzit Tsaikos!
Mr. A-house – #57 – that will depend on how much of a scholarship Charlie Wade gives him. 4.5 scholarships for 20 players isn’t much per player. Some get nothing, some get the equivalent of books, others get a little more. Almost no one gets a full ride in mvb.
GO WARRIORS!!!! Beat Cal Baptist!!
GO WAHINE!!
no worry, beef curry …
Texas: According to Mike Finger of the San Antonio Express-News,
Mack Brown will receive a buyout of $2.75 million in four installments,
in addition to earning $500,000 per year as special assistant to the president.
aloha 808 nice day it is
regarding the in comming recruits and coaches only time will prove how the plans will turn out. no use saying this or that, spring and fall practices will give a indication of the teams talents. just gotta be patient till then. the season wins and loses going tell all. don’t build the hype which latter bites you on the rear. let’s go with the flow and see what happens. nuff said mho
#47
I want to see how the Koloamatangi brothers do (line them up next to each other T/TE!).
Listing of USC recruit signings includes Tuileta as one of three preferred walk-ons. It notes the preferred walk-ons would have been scholarship players if not for the scholarship limits.
#70 – Someone told me that you are a retired educator? Wow. Scary thought. Not the retired part. But the educator part.
#73 – Just joking KK. See you latter.
odda kine news …
Derek Jeter retiring after 2014 season.
kifi – that number 70 guy is a very wise old educator!
Funny, I was also wondering what LT signed at that signing ceremony. Walk-ons have nothing to sign, from my understanding. Kinda silly. Agree with Stephen in “Not turning down a free education.” Anyway, we need to focus on the players that want to be here. I would assume that the UH coaches have moved on, too.
Too bad Beau Reilly wasn’t able to enroll for the Spring semester. Still, looking forward to seeing him in the fall. Spring ball should be interesting with the new DC, Mr. Clune and linebackers coach Mr. Gouveia. Hope Julian Gener’s rehab is coming along.
A team isn’t allowed to list walkons until they enroll in school. That’s a violation.
Are we going to get more recruits? Do we have any good walk-ons? It’s so tough without football… Where is football? Is it around the corner yet?
Wow, if all the players that were mentioned become impact players, we should have a good team unless we’re talking negative impact, j/k.
Interesting to note that a couple of commits that decommitted to sign elsewhere are still not signed in Sammy Lauaki and Issac Brutton. Maybe still waiting for a test score.
72: the USC website does not discuss Tuileta (or any other preferred walk-ons). What website are you looking at?
My daughter was at soccer practice yesterday at UH. She plays club soccer (Leahi 05) and our girls had the honor of being coached by Coach Bud (Michelle).
Adjacent to the soccer practice field I noticed a buch of student athletes weariing t-shirst with the slogan RISE on the front. Obivously they were part of the football team as they were busting major okole doing footbal drills. Not sure which coach was running the drills but whoever it was sounded stern but fair. There was even laughter coming from the players.
Point is, if you can get players and coaches to go balls out after this past season -having fun and busting butt-there may be much to look forward to. I know, its only Feb 12, 2014. Hope springs eternal when you see comitment first hand.
i’ve been on the road all day…
and yet there’s a post under my name#23.
kids…go find your own toys.
and beware i clicked the name and there is a phishing warning.
blog host i tried calling you and left messages but to no avail.
thanks
Al: i thought it was out of character for you to say what was said in that post.
Now how do we know that it will be really you in the future?
oh house of the sun thank you for your kind words.
ask him what he orders at Tiffany’s
#84 AL:
If someone poses under your name, it probably would have more people pay attention to it than, say “Fat Boy” (English translation).
Hoping that this local boy wants to come home……
http://jcfootball.scout.com/2/1374728.html
http://jcfootball.scout.com/a.z?s=87&p=8&c=1&nid=7257322
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/666221/highlights/69568395
Yay, VolleyBows!!!
Let’s Go Tui! Let’s Go Tui!!
Da Fat Lady Neva Sing Yet on Dis One….
Tui, cement your name in Hawaii Sport Lore!
Why a blog topic about how attractive Hawaii can be to transfers? And why provide a list of transfers that are already on the team?
My guess?
To wet the palette and get us ready for some exciting news about new transfers. Right ST? Al? Jeezy? Why else would he bring it up.
Me thinks something is brewing.
90…deja vu?
Good morning!
Remember, it is the eve of Valentine’s Day.
99.
100!
Whoo-hoo!!!
hello!
knock, knock – who’s dare — I dunno — I dunno who —- I dunno who is keeping ST shackled today!
Go WARRIORS!
Go VULCANS!