Eve of construction
I have no idea what a nitty or a gritty is, but the Warriors apparently are down to the nitty-gritty in this recruiting season.
Austin Webb, a 6-foot-8, 312-pound offensive tackle from Dallas, said he has accepted a scholarship from the Warriors, will sign a letter of intent tomorrow, and will move to Hawaii in July.
The Warriors also are prepared to finalize a commitment from a decorated defensive end/outside linebacker if any prospect de-commits. Even with that, the Warriors should have enough room for a late addition.
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Foist! Any NTs??
if the DE/OLB is decorated, shouldnt we get him regardless if anyone decommits?
What we need are recruits that can play right-away, as the challenging schedule will dictate that we are ready to compete. Is Holmes a sure commit or is Fresno still in the picture? Do we have a DC selected (but not announced) yet? So much intrigue…
Is it safe to say Ulu Perry will be signing with UCLA then?
3. If anyone is in the picture, it’s most likely SDSU, not Fresno
Anyone with a guess on who this DE/OLB guy is? JC-prep-transfer…
hopefully this decorated DE/OLB is Kamalei Correa hahaha
Would Jared Afalava fall into this category?
Nah. Kamalei is having a great career at Boise.
yes i know
Issac Saviianaea would certainly find more playing time here.
Lamone Williams?
Tigi Hill finally arrives…
OK. I’m done.
I doubt it’s a transfer…
Decorated can be interpreted in many ways. OIA second team can be considered a decoration.
Guud Morning Tsaikos…bootiful day.
winds a howling, trees doing da hula, things flying all over da place, got me a bunch of beer n soda cans delivered to my yard by da winds…so making some $ just watching da storm…
Anyhoo hard to post, keyboard not typing to good. funny but only on dis site. my puter or dis page?
Go Warriors! Max Wittek just joined our Facebook group (Hawaii Football Warrior Nation); come say hi to Max. I was going to tell him to tell Chow to run New England’s offense of quick passes to the running back breaking out of the backfield; and short crossing patterns that they use with Edelman & Amendola. Hopefully Chow listens!
I know alot of coaches do this but Petrino is a really bad guy. I was disappointed that Lousiville rehired him.
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/03/louisville-asks-south-carolina-rb-to-grayshirt-at-a-tough-time/
Turfwar,
Don’t think that Savaiianaea ever played DE……nor Williams OLB……but Afalava does seem to fall into this category.
……as does Mika Tafua……
graham im sure chow will ask at least 1 kid to greyshirt too
Pono…hey lots of OIA 2nd team guys end up as very good college players. I know back in my day, the all-star teams, (and ST conform this) were basically selected through very informal conversations with some HS coaches, and not the majority of them. So, guys like Gaylord Kuamoo ( honrable mention), David Fonoti ( 2nd team oia west)—were PAC-8 starters. Even, Mike Akiu was just an honorable mention.
19. Yep, most unfortunate but it seems to happen all the time. Elliot Porter comes to mind when Les Miles asked him to grayshirt. In his case, Porter was already enrolled so he was up the creek so to speak.
Pretty sure the commit has been mentioned here before…
Then again I could be wrong 🙂
I have no idea what a willy-nilly is.
Actually, hoping we get a big boy for an interior D-line position.
This s*** is killing me!!! Gonna be on the watch tomorrow all day. Gotta think it is gonna be a good day for the Warriors!!!
Going be deja vu all over again…NLI, hype, spring training, practice reports, hype, summer workouts, who da man, hype, fall practice, more reports, more hype, season starts, complaints, season ends, more complaints…
30. Been going through that for years now… but I think signing day is the one day a fan like me has hope. So I just enjoy it while I can.. Because when season starts, I start waiting for next year and look for to signing day all over again..
It will be great to have a guy who is 6 ft 8 in tall on the team.
Go Warriors!
#32 – It would also be great if he can block!
We need good blockers for chowball. Gotta give the punter enough time to punt.
I think I’m looking more forward to the announcement of new hires to the coaching staff than I am recruiting, which should be next week?
Why would it be great to have a 6’8″ guy on the team? Care to share your reasoning?
jeezy33, yeah it seems like a yearly groundhog day movie. But every year should get better…right?
Still don’t see any big ready-to-play DTs on the recruit list. That’s our biggest need IMHO.
aloha morning all !! lets hope and pray its going to be a great day for UH football program tomorrow !! let hope that there some change of hearts that some of hawaii big names stay home and chose to play football at home !! and lets hope chow did make some mins steals !! lets go bow !!
Like the old song goes, “the waiting is the hardest part”. Mahalo for the posts folks, some good info.
Do like ur sense of humor # 34…LOL…double LOL …. blocked punts can lead to a few points…in close games ….with Ohio State n Wisconsin… could be a win or loss difference…
Good noonish everyone!
“Twas the night before LOI Day and all through the house…”
…what’s the next verse, DPK? 🙂
36…in a pinch, he could take fotu’s place.
41 good one !! but last i checked the score board only go till 99 then got start from 0 again so that punter / kicker looking good in 0-3 game or 100-3 game !! lol only joke !! trying to speed up the day!!
…anticipation. It’s making me wait.
A 6’8″ tight end? A 6’8″ tackle eligible?
Last two guys I know that were around that height Jim Mills and Mark Nua, both played on Sundays.
If you cannot coach, it doesn’t matter who you recruit.
They have some talented players in the State of Utah. In the past, Utah high school players rarely ventured out of state and D-I recruiters were not frequent visitors. No longer the case. This USC LB commit looks like he’s ready to step right in for the Trojans at 6.5 248 lbs.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2325452-porter-gustin-to-usc-trojans-land-4-star-lb-prospect
48. But what if your assistants can? I would take a HC that can evaluate and recruit great players if he had leadership skills and good assistants that can teach.
Okay, so we know that the heights and weights of the athletes can be inflated or deflated like Patriot balls, but the main question is bare feet, slippers, shoes, cleats or stilettos?
https://twitter.com/thebiggestguy78
The most prized recruit out of Utah this year, if I’m not mistaken, was my rommie’s son Austin Kafenztis…3-4 star on most boards. Kyle told me already had an offer 3 years ago, so not Norms fault on this one…..
no way boola. Osa Masina, Porter Gustin and Andre James were probably the top prized recruits in Utah this season.
Kafentzis is good but wasnt in demand like the top 3.
Look at Hawaii’s recruits tomorrow and then look at Ohio State’s recruits. It doesn’t matter getting 2 more days to prepare for the Buckeyes. That is the most stupid reasoning that I have heard. It will be so ugly and my friends are planning to go there, because they said they wanted to experience being in a 106,000 stadium and say “they were there.” I’ll be in LV and putting in a wager on the Buckeyes. Prediction: OSU 77, UH 0. If Hawaii gets sloppy it could be 100 to 0. You are talking about the the defending national champs, a very young national champion team, and a Head Coach doesn’t mind running up the score. Unfortunate, the UH adminstration from the top and on down to the AD who makes the decisions, have been so poor. Committees after committees and their selections are a failure, including hiring Chow and Arnold, the 2 most important Head Coaching position in football and men’s basketball. One’s gone, and the other will soon to be. Yes, I am disgusted about the whole UH fiascos. It doesn’t take 6 months to find a new athletic director. I will watch UH sports, for free. I will not support the program financially further until I see some positive changes are made in the leadership. I will not renew my basketball season’s tickets after this season. It’s too bad really. UH is all we have here. I feel for the players, all players. They deserve better coaching and better leadership at the top. I’m not talking about all the sports. Some programs are doing well. Can’t complain about them.
It’s tough, it’s a business.
Recruiting looking gooood!!!
Now if we can recruit a new OC!!!!
Keeping fingers crossed.
Is JJ available ???
Porter Gustin committed to USC
the guy’s a beast
Ron Lee?????
#55, JJ is available to be head coach.
“UH deserves better coaching and better leadership at the top” . . . and better fans.
#58, Lee is available to be JJ’s assistant.
True #58. But Chow has no defensive and
offensive coordinators at present. What decent coach
will come to UH if this is likely Coach Chow’s
final year of coaching at UH?
53-Did not follow, but I thought the demanded went down as he committed over a year ago to WI–in any event, I know he was the national fresh and soph player of the year by Maxpreps.
Hmmmmm thanks # 44… me not think that one…was only thinking 72-3….
Nah…not to worry..our boys will do well…
They are not quitters..
And besides…Mr. BJ…WENT GIVE THEM TO EXTRA DAYS TO practice….just to make A-HOUSE HAPPY…..he he he
Mr. Derek…leta make a sorta friendly bet… give me 77 points.. me take UH.. N WE ARE BET A WHOPPER MEAL..WITH regular fries n coke zero….if me or you loose.. me pay off next time me in Hawaii….or when ur here in Manila….howzit…we on ???
And if you are here..me promise me will try n find you sumone to relieve ur ‘stress’…if ur wife ever allows you….he he he
52..Oh wait, didn’t someone here say that offers are not official until they take an official visit or receive an in-house visit?
Hopefully the Easter Bunny shows up at Chow’s door tomorrow and brings a great class of recruits (and a DC, OC and DB coach). Envision how happy Chow and the fans will be. Chow doing the bunny hop, passing out jelly beans and showing the effervescence of happiness for hitting a homerun with recruiting and assembling a top notch staff. The fans are, likewise, ecstatic. There’s a buzz in the air…Chow’s walking on rarefied air. No. Stop. This only happens in fantasy land (and at Boise, Fresno, San Jose…not Hawaii) , where every year Warrior fans, fanatical as they are, fantasize about the incoming recruiting class. But when you look at the cycle of past recruits they’re not at the top at making the all-conference teams. In fact it’s to the contrary, and it’s stretching it for a few of the players to make it on the third team. Or having players enter the NFL It’s a shame. It’s all a mirage. It’s all hype. It’s also holding onto a prayer (from my perspective) that some miracle does happen…soon.
possibly boola, but he didnt have much options after Gary Anderson left Wisconsin. Anderson/Oregon State wouldnt guarantee him a starting spot next season, so he stuck w Wisconsin.
wouldnt mind having him though, if things dont work out in Madison.
I believe the two positions with good recruiting are offensive line and linebackers; position coaches Chris Naeole and Kurt Gouveia, respectively. Might add running back to the good list; position coach Wayne Moses. Just waiting to see what Mel Davis and D J Riggins can do.
Derek, do what you gotta do. Rant all you like. You can take your money elsewhere while others will support the “team”. See ya.
Warbow huh?
UH needs younger coaches
UH needs more experienced coaches
UH needs JJ
UH no need JJ
One thing UH needs is new younger fans to replace the grouchy old fans
UH created a 2015 signing day central at their website.
http://www.hawaiiathletics.com/news/2015/2/3/_0203152029.aspx?path=football
Yea spot on there.. Mr./Mrs. ‘WHAT’…..yea many of us here are ready 4 the glue factory.. n have the waist line to prove it…he he he…
Just be patient there… tomorrow will come soon enough…then a fresh round of rumblings…from many…is good…keeps this blog hopping..like the Easter Bunny that go visit Mr. Chow soon….
Does anyone know what the knock on Webb is? His tape looks pretty good and is a good size. I think he should have more offers but I feel like I am missing something.
I am excited aboit this class. Getting Perry and Holmes would make it something special
Z…. thanks for that link….sumone is doing good work there at the UHAD office…
should be commended …nice to see it all in writing like that…
Be nice if they could put all the ‘prospective hopefuls’ … n if we got them or not…or is that a no no ?
RE: #54
Derek — I’m a bit more optimistic, but I’ll bet a Maple Garden lunch and you only have to give me 43 points. But I am scratching my head over the Thursday game. I thought it was because of a MWC TV deal and I was asking how much are we getting. I dunno. The extra two days to prepare did sound very lame. 🙁
It’s always a fun time of year with NLI quickly approaching. Also good to hear all the blog voices ringing out with optimism, pessimism and everything in between. Here’s hoping we have a great recruiting class and a better 2015. If the recruiting class doesn’t measure up and all the hopes go down the drain we can always innovate and introduce the “first down punt” as a radically novel football strategy. The punt was our most interesting play last year, maybe we just need to use it more…..ok, sorry!
DEREK #54
I disagree with your position. It is extremely short-sighted. It is only if we continue to support UH athletics with money, with ticket sales and with our aloha/blessings/prayers that we will succeed. If we deliberately bankrupt the program, there will be no recovery.
Please reconsider and continue to support the athletic program.
Looks like a very mediocre recruiting class at best. But what was to be expected from a lame duck coach who is running a losing program. We should have let him go after the season.
Football depression is setting in. Maybe a spring football season isn’t such a bad idea.
Higdon has been tweeting about a lot about Baylor within the last hour. Did I miss something about him heading there?
82. April fools?
Wouldn’t be the first time we’ve lost someone to Baylor. Difference, i guess, is that Muir proved himself to be good enough for a Power 5 team
Is john ursua still on board? I no there is a compliance issue, but if that gets figured out is he still coming here. Wats the issue anyway?
SAT I am also a grouchy old fan and nearly ready for the glue factory too. We do need younger fans, otherwise where will the grouchy old fans of tomorrow come from?
Couldn’t they figured it out in the 2 yes he was in a mission? Y only now is there an issue? ST?
Auto correct…Couldn’t they figured it out in the 2 yrs he was on a mission? Y only now is there an issue? ST?
Looking at John Ursua’s twitter, elderursua5 which I assume is him, there’s a tweet saying I have cancer. What is that about?
Not a lawyer but Gib Arnold’s 2011 contract Termination Without Cause “lump sum” calculation appears more or less consistent with his $1.4M claim. I don’t recall this “lump sum” being mentioned before, but hope UH’s hired legal experts accounted for this. … http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/20150203_Gib_Arnold_says_UH_owes_him_14_million.html?id=290734881
#71 … and younger fans need $$$ to replace older fans, grouchy or otherwise
#90. You mean the UH attorneys that draft such sloppy language?
Afalava and Wily to UNLV? Sad days here when UNLV steals your recruits.
Graham:
It’s a big country. Not everyone can get recruited.
#92 No. UH hired a “high-powered Alabama law firm” to address “potential fallout from the ongoing investigation of its men’s basketball program” … and $1.4M sure seems fallout-ish … http://www.staradvertiser.com/s?action=login&f=y&id=270859741
Help me on this, but I’m really puzzled by Gib Arnold’s complaint.
It seems the $1.4 million would be in order if he signed his extension, but he never did.
Or did he?
Shame on those 2 for the last minute switch.
I think UH did try to go after Austin Kafentzis.
Oh, well.
By the way, I think there’s a fund to help Kent Kafentzis, who is in a horrible battle with cancer. He’s a good guy.
I read some of the contract of Gib Arnold. The 1.4 million also says it cannot be guaranteed. There are several portions in the contract that I think Gib cannot win a law suit, but Gib knows the history of UH, maybe thinking they will pay him off. He said that he needs the $1.4 to fight the charges as people who testified is throughout the U.S. and it would be very expensive. It also says the he is part of HGEA. Shouldn’t he file a grevience and let the HGEA fight for him? Again, better the payoff for him. I am not a lawer and was cut off from reading the contract after 3 or 4 pages. This is jmho.
#74.
Austin Webb is a late bloomer and will be a building project for sure (he bench presses 275 and runs a 5.5 40)… Didnt start until his senior year. He was over shadowed by OL teammates with more recognition. According to Texas sources, he is underestimated more than overlooked. Although sources concede both maybe equally likely. That can happen easily in a big State like Texas. The baby faced OT made a verbal to Montana State in December. According to Webb, a wannabee outdoors man, MSU had all the natural terrain he longed for. His decision wasnt based solely on national geographics. He also cited MSU’s OL coach as being some one who produced good OLM and an NFL product over 12 years at MSU. After sorting through his BIO my conclusion is this recruit is a late find and the gamble is he will continue to improve. Personally, I like the kid. He is bonafide intelligent and understands the commitment to get better. He sounds like he knows he has a lot to prove and is looking for a good mentor to make himself better. Webb hails from a solid family (father is a transplanted NY cop) and was raised to be independent. At least this recruit wont get homesick and run home after one year removed from mom. Webb is adventurous, personable and humble.
Texas A&M offered Austin a preferred walk on. At 6’7″ and 305, UH is throwing the die…no immediate impact here. Like his attitude if that counts.
Read page 13 B., i., a., b. Again, I am not a lawyer but it does say something about NCAA violations that UH can terminate his contract. Read it for yourself as I get confused with all this legality talk and make your own conclusions.
I am excited for Webb, I liked his tape. I was just wondering why he didn’t recieve that many offers. I know some slip through the cracks every year, and this could be one. Welcome Austin Webb- Work Hard
kimo browner, I agree with you about Mr. Webb being a building project. I am glad that he chose UH, but being a huge guy entering Div. 1, if the stats are correct, he can’t even bench press his own weight and his 5.5 40 needs to improve. By his junior and senior year, I think he will contribute, hopefully sooner though.
#93.
UNLV has a new coach backed by Las Vegas $$. He was a local high school coaching messiah for Bishop Gorman. Sounds like he has recruiting skills too. Question is can he make the transition to college football. Remember NDs Gerry Faust? I like the odds for Tony Sanchez. Vegas does too.
#96 & #102 … as I read paragraph “i” of “A. Termination without Cause” (top of page 12), the lump sum damages amount is equal to the total compensation received up to the point of termination. So basically, the closer he is to the end of the contract, the larger the damages are. He seems to be saying that, at the time of termination, UH had paid him $1.4M under that contract, and thus they owe him that much more in damages.
I wonder if the Kahuku kids are having second thought about going to UH cause the Kahuku boys there are not having much PT. Fonua is having a hard time cracking the starting lineup and will even get less time with Russell Williams..Keoni Bush Loo……Manly Wiiliams and JGW coming in/coming back.Waa was talked about a lot but was never a regular in the starting lineup. He was all over the place..guard/tackle/center. Aofaga Wily had to retire.
Maybe the Kahuku boys want to go someplace where they can play. I would like for them to stay home and represent but if their heart is not there then maybe its better they go where they feel comfortable. Our LB/DB Corp should be solid. Alo Wily would help but Kau Gifford and Kennedy T. should be solid for the next couple of years.
107…. Don’t think that’s the reason. If anything its because they have no clue who will be coaching them next year in Hawaii.
The contract clause on termination without cause is poorly written, it appears. It should have been reviewed by the UH legal department, but maybe it was. This may come back to bite UH in the pants.
Would love to have Ulu Perry playing for us! He seems like a solid UCLA commit. What are the chances of him changing his mind tomorrow?!
I wouldn’t be surprised if UNLV is dangling the “this is a new staff and everyone will start with a clean slate” line at them. Cannot blame them for feeling excited at the potential to play as a freshman.
We’ll see where their heart’s at tomorrow. Won’t lose sleep if either or both chose to go away.
2 Red Raiders going to be Rebels not Warriors
http://www.hawaiiprepworld.com/football/source-kahukus-wily-afalava-choose-unlv/
Tomorrow’s headline should be “Day of Destruction”
If you think no DC or DB coach doesn’t matter, time to put down the doobie.
When will good news come? How long must fans be patient?
Won’t be surprised if 75% of this class are JC or D1 transfers.
Some signed after LOI day after getting no offers
#109. It would be disturbing if UH’s legal staff and experts from Alabama didn’t comprehensively review the coach’s contract before selecting the “Termination without Cause” option.
Have to agree with kahuna on the Kahuku boys. If they wanna go they should go. Their scholarships will be a blessing for another couple of athletes who will treasure the opportunity to be Warriors. And I too will not lose any sleep. In fact I can’t wait to see who takes the offers on signing day.
I heard NAIA Menlo college shutdown their football program. Expect a lot of local boys at the Walkon Tryouts
what time does the signing start tomorrow?
Lots of local boys wanted to go to UH, but there are too many damn uncertainties. This started back in November and any changes were for the worst
Let’s be perfectly clear. The fact that the Kahuku boys changed their commitments to UNLV instead of UH does not reflect negatively on them. Rather, it reflects poorly on Chow and his staff. When your program is losing recruits to UNLV with a first year HC without any college coaching experience, you know you’re in the dumps.
There will be a lot of negative comments about these kids that choose to go away. What do you expect these kids to do? And let’s leave the loyalty argument out of this.
I have held out hope for tomorrow, but am starting to realize that it will be pretty glum.
We are down to getting excited over prospects that no one else wanted. We are stoked about guys that we are stealing from walk on offers and FCS schools. We are touting back up plan players in case our left overs change their minds. Seriously? Wake up call guys.
And for those of you who are still pretending that UH has a chance in hell of signing Ulu-Perry need to take BigWave’s advice and put down the ganja.
Kev-1, I agree with everthing you just said. When you lose 9 coaches, including 2 OC’s and 2 DC’s, in a 3 year span, the flags goes up for any parent. Hawaii is on 4 Year Bowl eligible skid, something only New Mexico can hide in shame in the MWC.
At this point there isn’t Anything even fans can get excited for.
How can a recruit with other offers get excited.
losing players to UNLV is the canary in the coal mine.
#118, does it really matter? We already know who committed, well we hope they sign.
The Chad Owens, Ashley Lelies, James Fendersons, Diamonds in the Rough, Kids Small in Stature but Big In Heart are bonuses, not something you build your recruiting class around. Not putting down anyone, but at this point in the recruiting season, the talent pool for D1 guys who can contribute in Sept is rather low.
Seeing Utah St, UNLV, SDSU, SJS, UCDavis, Cal Poly out recruit you is rather sad.
One last question before I tend to something way more exciting, who besides Chow, Powell & Naeole is doing the recruiting? Having heard a peep about Demo & Gouveia since December. Ok, gotta go hang laundry now. Woohoo!
Go Bows. sign on the dotted line. Lets see who’s in.
the Red Raider Kids Are Winners they Don’t want to be a loser like Coach Chow and the Warriors, I Don’t Blame them for leaving the Island.
gotta a lousy feeling about UH football. “Like a chinese fire drill”
Hate to say it but I’m convinced holding onto Chow for another season was a huge miscalculation by the UH administration and we will see part of the fallout tomorrow.
Ulu-Perry posted this 2 hours ago..
Jim Mora Press Conference Live Stream: Feb. 4 at 4:30 p.m. PST
http://www.uclabruins.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30500&ATCLID=209866721
Dang! SOOO much talent in Hawaii but many leave..
I didn’t see anything in that post that says he committed. Ulu-Perry does retweet a lot of UH and UCLA stuff.
Bingo.
Kahuku recruits Parents to let your sons go to Unlv
Really ? ??????????? What the . Xxx are you thinking.
Good fortunes.
131…blame it on Ben Jay.
He alone is responsible for creating ill will on the national scene for our football program. First, when he declared that football at hawaii could soon be non-existent. Secondly, when he kept Chow because he didn’t want to pay the buyout costs.
And if that wasn’t enough…he blew the NCAA investigation as well. He should have suspended both Brendyn AkanaAnd Glib Arnold well befor the summer and released him for cause when the LETTER came down.
But then, how do we blame him when his superiors are just as incompetent for not firing BJ. Allowing him to continue as a lame duck AD through June is preposterous.
…nuff said!
Believe it or not…there are many awaiting the opportunity to right the broken ship and turn this football program 180.
There are many frothing at the mouth to steer the Athletic Department towards financial solvency.
However, we all know that the University’s hierarchy needs an overhaul as well.
Well I pray that the fax machine has already started to burn up.
gne
DeSean Holmes will announce his choice at 1:00 PM (PST) [11:00 AM (HST)] on Fox Sports Prime Ticket…..
http://hscalifornia.scout.com/story/1509770-who-s-still-left-on-the-board-out-west?s=153
If there are de commits from long time verbals at the last minute you have to look at the circumstances. What is the motivation for the last minute offer after all this time. Essentially you are just a toss in to fill out the class. Shabby when you bribe somebody by tossing in an offer to a teammate. It is different when you get a last minute call to step up in competition. We will have to wait and see. Still overall when it is said and done I think it will be a good group regardless of who joins and who defects. As far as coaches making the move from high school to. College, I have seen a couple dozen go that route…..all the ones I personally saw were nothing short of dismal failures…..we will see. Go Warriors!!!!!!!
The jump from HS to college HC is profound–and it is not, per se, the coaching. It is dealing with the administration, alum, parents, assistant coaches, fundraising, marketing/sponsorships…etc
The problem with having an outside financial beneficiary (as the case is with UNLV) is his relationship, and then potential tension, with the institution. Now, I am not sure whether he is even a UNLV alum, and this may present problems down the road. So while everyone likes money and boosters, the booster’s money comes with its own clauses, either implicit and/or explicit, and usually, at some point, they come into to contrast with the mission of the institution.
Now, like anything else in this world–there are exceptions to the rule. So, lets consider the donation of Boone Pickens to his alma mater, Okl State. One, he was an alum, and already knew much of the politics and inner workings of not just the university, but also the leadership of the state. Two, the gift was so large, at the end of the day, close to 200 million, that it was actually over half the size of their total endowment (which is close to 380 million). Three, he has many strings attached–and not all were altruistic. For instance, he negotiated that he actually also financially manage the money.
So, what’s the big deal on that? Well, he still get a huge deduction, which in turn helps his tax position in the short and long run. But, it also means, he gets paid for it at the same time, as he takes a management fee, plus a percentage of profits (which is the usual compensation structure for hedge funds etc). Long-story short, he was moby dick, the giant whale, in which he become indispensable to OSU. Not quite sure, whether the UNLV fellow is in the same class or has that type of liquidity (many folks have a large net worth–not many have liquidity). What I will say, is that once you notch a couple of losing seasons in W-L column, we will have a much better vantage on his ability to see if he is in this for the long haul.
Boola, like your logic. Even though UH has some issues with staff and support I truly believe it has bottomed out. In the coming weeks certain issues will be addressed. Do not fault a kid for looking elsewhere but it needs to be for the right reasons. Glitter or promise thereof is not a good reason. I believe UNLV has a program winning percentage of around 400, that essentially makes it systemic. I sure hope all factors are taken into consideration. Go Warriors!!!!!!
127: EXCEPT FOR BEING RACIST, THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A “CHINESE FIRE DRILL”. THIS WAS COINED IN THE 1930’S CHARLIE CHAPLIN MOVIES. WHICH USED NON-CHINESE ACTORS. AS FOR FIRES IN CHINA, HAVE YOU EVER BEEN TO ONE?
Maddog50–well, we are both obviously biased. But, that said, I agree with you that if you were to look with both a historical lens and in the contemporary, the systemic problems of UNLV are much more deep rooted, and I much prefer our set of problems compared to theirs…..holomua bows!
Can’t blame the kAhuku kids for picking unlv. Chowball is all about good punting. Only guys who want to play for us now are punters.
Trifonovich anyone?
Thought that……decorated DE/OLB TJ Fehoko was no longer on UH’s recruiting radar……and vice versa……since UH wasn’t among his 5 official recruiting visits (Colorado, Wazzu, Nevada, UNLV, North Carolina State) already taken.
Hmmm…..
Turns out that……TJ didn’t trip UNLV after all…..but is still supposed to announce his choice this morning.
New post is up but I don’t know how to link from my phone.