Dress rehearsal

It is no coincidence that today’s practice at Aloha Stadium has the same 5 p.m. start time as next Thursday’s season-opening kickoff. Of course, for the game, the Warriors will arrive much earlier to the stadium. But today’s dress rehearsal will give the new Warriors a feel for playing on the Aloha Stadium’s fast turf, as well as getting used to the backdrops and setting. Remember the Warriors did not play their past spring game at Aloha Stadium.

* * * * * 

For fans wishing to attend the season opener, today would be a good chance to test the traffic. Or not. Face it. Going ewa on a weekday is going to be difficult. Some theories do not need to be tested. 

* * * * * 

There doesn’t appear to be any visible concern, but the Warriors are nearing the point where they need to see some some key players return to practice. 

Running back Alex Green has been held out of contact drills for about a week because of a concussion and abrasions suffered in a non-football accident. Right tackle Laupepa Letuli has missed time because of a minor leg ailment. And linebacker Aaron Brown, a key in so many defensive packages, has not practiced at all during the preseason. 

The absences have provided more work for running back Chizzy Dimude, tackle Kainoa LaCount and linebacker Po’okela Ahmad. But the Warriors would feel better if their depth wasn’t tested so much before the first real snap. 

* * * * * 

UH also is going to have to make a decision on slotback/returner Allen Sampson. He has looked really good as a receiver and kickoff returner. But the Warriors are stacked at slotback — Greg Salas, Kealoha Pilares, Ryan Henry, Dustin Blount, Miah Ostrowski, to name a few — and Royce Pollard is the speed returner on kickoffs. UH does use two kick returners, but the second one is more of a blocker. Then again, with the new no-wedge rule, maybe it would be innovative for UH to have to speedy deep returners.

* * * * * 

Word on the boulevard is Cory Daniel is not enrolled in school because his financial-aid package has yet to be approved. Daniel was on the list of players invited to rejoin the team this week.

* * * * * 

Slugger offers these pictures from lsat night’s Heather McMackin football clinic for women:



* * * * *

We’re going to miss UH assistant basketball coach  Serenda Valdez, because, well, we always miss cool people. Best of luck to her in her future endeavors.

* * * * *

Good news/bad news: I have a desk phone at work, but I don’t know my number. Call the switchboard at 529-4700 if you need to reach me. But don’t leave my message. I don’t know my access code. 

I did find the phone charger for the work cell. But, again, I don’t know the cell number. And I can’t access messages because, well, I don’t know the number. 

Aaaah. Just call my personal cell at 256-0223 if you need me.


  1. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:08 am

    Woke up with a stuffy nose.

  2. djmitcho August 26, 2010 6:14 am

    Wow..top 5! Good Morning everyone. Hope everyone has a good day!

  3. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:16 am

    Denver Post sticks to their guns and says BYU on the verge of staying in the MWC.If they do will the MWC go to 12 teams as earlier reported.

    Salt Lake Trib says answer could come today or tomorrow.

    “Its governing Board of Trustees — members of the LDS Church’s First Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve — will hold their weekly meeting this morning, the last scheduled meeting before the Sept. 1 deadline. A move away from the status quo would require the LDS Church’s approval; a decision to stay in the MWC most likely would not.”

  4. Hank August 26, 2010 6:20 am

    …let Allen Sampson play!…the time is now…

  5. Hank August 26, 2010 6:21 am

    …Taeao maunia!…

  6. haka August 26, 2010 6:24 am

    Go Waipio!

    Go Wahine Soccer!

    Go Wahine Volleyball!

    Go Warriors!

  7. haka August 26, 2010 6:31 am

    With the future in question, I don’t think any player that can help, right now, in any way, is a good idea. Play the best even if their contribution is limited. The future is now!

  8. haka August 26, 2010 6:33 am

    Uh let me rephrase that…

    I don’t think any player should be reshirted if he can help now.

    I need to be reshirted.


  9. haka August 26, 2010 6:34 am

    i agree with hank! 🙂

  10. whitey August 26, 2010 6:35 am

    Good morning Tsaikos. I see see d1 went ho hi already.

  11. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:36 am

    The bad thing about redshirting is that a decision has to be made before the season. If a player plays in even one game, he can’t redshirt.

    He can apply for a medical hardship if he does not play in more than three of the first six games because of a documented season-ending injury.

    So, basically, UH has to decide whether Allen Sampson and Darius Bright play in the first game.

  12. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:37 am


    By requset.

  13. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:39 am

    Dave Shoji Show

    I guess there is some new banner hanging from the rafters of the SCC commemorating the history of Wahine VB,must be a pretty big .

  14. Michigan Warrior August 26, 2010 6:42 am

    Good info, but I hope we can heal quick and keep injuries to a minimum this year. Last year, the injury bug hit us real bad. Would rather not experience that again, although our team grew up some during that adversity.

    I’m the same way with my phone… I have to look at “Features” to find my phone number.

  15. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:43 am

    No did I really say SCC meant SSC ? Got USC on my mind also.

  16. haka August 26, 2010 6:46 am

    The great thing about the football clinic is that it shows the armchair coaches and fans what it is like during a play. Knowing where to go and what to do in a few seconds amidst the violent chaos. So many times you hear fans in the stands yelling nasty things to the players if they make an apparent mistake and yet, they have no idea what the play is about or what it is really like down there. It ain’t as easy as yelling from the bleachers that’s for sure. Perspective is a beautiful thing.

  17. Hank August 26, 2010 6:46 am

    …yeah haka!…let Darius Bright play too…if he shows that he can make plays (even on special teams) that other guys can’t…play him….a crushing tackle on a punt or kick off coverage can make a big difference in the game…

  18. haka August 26, 2010 6:47 am

    I think that if Sampson and Bright can, at the very least, help with the special teams, then they should play!

  19. haka August 26, 2010 6:49 am

    we are one hank! lol

  20. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:49 am

    I’ve got two feelings on redshirting:

    I think redshirt years would have helped Nick Rolovich and Adam Leonard.

    On the other hand, UH needs a big season. Can’t hold back.

  21. haka August 26, 2010 6:51 am

    Wasn’t there a time when you could play something like no more than 3 games in order to be eligible to redshirt?

  22. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:51 am

    Coach Mack said he appreciated the turnout for the clinic for male fans. He said the attendees were serious and asked great questions. He marveled at the 80-year-old guy who was runnng pass routes in the rain.

  23. Bstunna2002 August 26, 2010 6:53 am

    I say Sampson should play and Given the situation at the X n Z position Bright should redshirt I would hate to waste a year of eligibility for someone to play special teams….If BYU stays and MWC goes to 12 we may as well say Aloha to Utah State….that is unless the PAC 10 doesn’t allow Utah in….

  24. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:54 am

    More photos of the jug machine, maybe in a bikini ?

  25. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:55 am


    The three-game limit was always tied to injuries.

    If you don’t have documented proof about an injury, and you play even one snap, you can’t redshirt.

    I know some people griped yesterday about injury reports on the blog. But, hey, those count as “documented proof.”

    There have been many instances when a player gets hurt, and when I ask about it, he’ll say: Nothing’s wrong. I’m fine. Then later, when he wants to apply for a medical hardship, he’ll ask: Can I get that article on my injury?

    And then I have to be like: There is no article. You said you were fine.

  26. Pomai August 26, 2010 6:56 am

    #22 – does he have any eligibility left?

  27. Hank August 26, 2010 6:57 am

    ….i think special teams will be the difference against troy….

  28. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:57 am

    Last week, there were two freshmen out with injuries. Coach Mack walked up to them and said: Make sure you get documents.

  29. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:58 am


    You know, if he never ever enrolled in college, and maybe can prove he was in the military — Civil War? — I suppose he could be eligible.

  30. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:59 am


    I think you’re right. Special teams probably will be the difference .

  31. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 6:59 am

    …. Well, one of the differences.

  32. chopsueyboy August 26, 2010 7:01 am

    If we go independent on football, one of the excuses we have to overcome is teams not wanting to come here during their conference schedule. Could we play a “home” game or 2 in Las Vegas against a BCS school like how WSU played in Seattle against us last year?

  33. Kekoa (iPhone) August 26, 2010 7:09 am

    Good morning all!

    Thanks for the pics Slugger….You look Mahhhvelous! Hope to see you run a slick pass route on CofK at the t-gate.

    DJmitcho ~ E kala mai! Gotta upgrade my phone to link with your tweet request. Can do aftah a biz meeting today.

    Go WAIPIO! Challenge them, and shut ’em down!


  34. haka August 26, 2010 7:17 am

    #25 ST

    Ah! That’s it! Thanks.

    Some people gripe about anything. It seems it’s their critical nature. Some of it is for the good and some of it is, well, griping drivel nonsensical trash without merit. 🙂

  35. dopaco24 August 26, 2010 7:26 am

    #32, yes we can play a “home” game at a neutral field. In fact you can play as many as you want. However, only one will be counted towards your minimum of 5 home games as required by the NCAA for FBS competition.

  36. greenthumb August 26, 2010 7:35 am

    #32 & #35, Garret had mentioned “home” games on the mainland on a neutral field as a way to boost attendance, program visibility and help with recruiting. Also a way to widen the appeal of booking home-and-home games with teams we’d like a relationship with. IIRC, a couple of the places we talked about were the Rose Bowl and maybe the Coliseum because those are geographically good recruiting areas. Am I understanding right that NCAA rules allow you to give prospective recruits tickets to home games but not away games?

    Might additionally be a way to stretch the UH travel budget, add to the attractiveness to recruits (you will have a home game at this marquee location to look forward to and for your family/friends to be able to go to) and add to fan base?

  37. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 7:41 am

    Stephen Tsai: August 26th, 2010 at 6:51 am Coach Mack said he appreciated the turnout for the clinic for male fans. He said the attendees were serious and asked great questions. He marveled at the 80-year-old guy who was runnng pass routes in they rain.

    Yikes! For some people, the sting of never making their high school football team never goes away…

  38. RedZone August 26, 2010 8:00 am

    ST I once read an article by a Big Ten team (i can’t remember who it was) where they wrote that they kept a log to document every time a player went in for treatment for injuries by their trainers.

  39. Jun Tao August 26, 2010 8:00 am

    ….didn’t a Freshman by the name of Chad Owens find his way onto the field via special teams first? I don’t see why Allen Sampson could do the same….

    On another note, there are many successful people here in Hawaii… maybe not born and raised but they make Hawaii their current home. Why can’t UH seek these people out to invest in the local economy (more importantly UH) to see if they could donate some of their funds? A great example is the Clarence T.C. Ching foundation. At least publicly, they have donated the most to Hawaii athletics and other organizations in the state.

    Lets take it one step further. How about we find a bigger partner in the realm of Ebay Founder — Pierre Omidyar? He is currently living here in Hawaii and I’m sure he has some vested interest in supporting the local economy. Why can’t we at the very least ask him to see what interest level he has in supporting the State’s only Division 1 athletic program? We need someone like him (in my opinion) to move forward.

    Just a thought…. Have a great day!

  40. (Jesse) James August 26, 2010 8:08 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos…hope all have a good day today….

    I too am in a quandry about redshirting. I would hate to have a year of eligibility wasted as well but if they can help the team right away then I say play them. Like ST said, this is a make or break year and we have to go all in. The Warriors need to understand this as well and leave no doubt on the field.

  41. (Jesse) James August 26, 2010 8:10 am

    Jun Tao…

    Agreed. We could also seek financial assistance from those peeps who were born here…(i.e. Kelly Preston, Bette Midler, Nicole Kidman….)…or have some kind of fundraiser with those peeps in attendance to draw interest in the program…..I know KAZZ would double down on that one….MWAHAHAHAHAHA

  42. RedZone August 26, 2010 8:13 am

    I thought Kidman came from down under?

  43. Bulla August 26, 2010 8:15 am

    Good Morning Tsaikos,

    Well, the countdown continues, one week from today…..


    BEAT USC 🙂 🙂 🙂

  44. RedZone August 26, 2010 8:17 am

    Oh okay I checked Kidman was born here but went to Australia at the age of 4.

  45. d1島 August 26, 2010 8:19 am

    Mahalo Stephen.

  46. roysan16 August 26, 2010 8:21 am

    # haka:

    August 26th, 2010 at 7:17 am

    #25 ST

    Ah! That’s it! Thanks.

    Some people gripe about anything. It seems it’s their critical nature. Some of it is for the good and some of it is, well, griping drivel nonsensical trash without merit.

    Great post. What else do you have to say? Your predictable.

  47. haka August 26, 2010 8:25 am

    that would be “you’re”.

  48. LizKauai m/ August 26, 2010 8:28 am


    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Wow- nice pix, Slugger!

    ST- enjoy seeing your comments in the body of the blog. Keeps us all on our toes.

    Have a great day, everyone!

  49. OldDiver August 26, 2010 8:31 am

    I could be wrong but it is my understanding that there is nothing to file or for that matter any paper work to fill out to redshirt. It’s just a matter of not playing that year. That is why the decision to redshirt is a more difficult one later in the year not at the beginning of the year. Do you use up a players year of eligibility with two games remaining?

  50. greenthumb August 26, 2010 8:32 am

    #39 Jun Tao and #41 (Jesse) James — to carry this one step further, in 1961, Elvis did a benefit concert here that gave new life to fundraising for the Arizona Memorial. So maybe the message is to look for new ways to unite passion with talent … which *ommmmmmm* universities as places of learning and dreams should be doing anyway. 😉

  51. LizKauai m/ August 26, 2010 8:36 am

    ST- can you explain how the College Football Store ad at the top right side of the page helps UH? Are they paying a royalty for use of the logo?

    Just kinda thinking that adspace would be a good location for Rainbowtique to feature their newest designs and closeout sale items.

    I know the HSA needs to generate revenue too so it could be good for both entities.

  52. Last Call August 26, 2010 8:36 am

    The Hawai`i Supa Bowzooka ? Check it out at


  53. rage777 August 26, 2010 8:37 am

    Another point about redshirting is that if a player ahead of him on the depth chart gets injured, they can’t come off of the redshirt year and start playing. But then again, since a lot of those slotbacks are graduating you can get 4 solid years out of Sampson if he redshirts.

  54. roysan16 August 26, 2010 8:42 am


    Posters here had valid points, supported by facts. But nope here you go again attacking the messengers not the message. By now.. you’re infamous. Talk about drivel? Look at your posts this morning.

  55. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 8:43 am

    How about asking the guy who bought Obama’s

    vacation digs—I think his family is very wealthy

    here in Hawaii…And they do contribute…a lot.

  56. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 8:44 am

    I like drivel since I was a baby…

  57. haka August 26, 2010 8:44 am

    It may be best that the athletes decide if they will redshirt or not. The coaches and players lay out the scenarios and in the end, the player makes the choice.

  58. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 8:44 am

    Also…chit chat is wonderful!

  59. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 8:45 am

    And The Lord’s command, “Judge not lest YOU be so judged.”


  60. wafan August 26, 2010 8:48 am

    Good morning!

    Well, apparently it is for most of us.

  61. Jun Tao August 26, 2010 8:49 am

    #41 & #50

    YES! The thought process is to change the way we (as a state) think! I was thinking along the lines of T. Boone Pickens type of money.

    A great sales person can sell anything… even a pet rock. =) I’m not that old. But I know that we have very bright people here and around the world who could sell the University of Hawaii as a product to benefit both the academic and athletic programs.

  62. Stretch August 26, 2010 8:49 am

    Everyone has the freedom to be here or not. If people don’t like the content of the blog, by all means, save your precious time (and others) and don’t read the site. There must be information here that interest people if they keep coming back.

  63. haka August 26, 2010 8:53 am

    uh…#25 is ST

    speaking of being under attack…

    here i thought my posts were motivational, profound and noteworthy


    Go Waipio!

    Go Wahine Soccer!

    Go Wahine Volleyball!

    Go Warriors!

    …is a bit predictable.

    have a nice day!

    oh, and

    Go Waipio!

    Go Wahine Soccer!

    Go Wahine Volleyball!

    Go Warriors!

    sorry for the drivel 😉

  64. (Jesse) James August 26, 2010 9:05 am

    #50 greenthumb….or we could even have a mega-concert type thing with the local musicians and such (i.e. Willie K, Amy Gilliom, C&K, etc.) Like they do for the KCCN Birthday Bash. Have it at the SSC and have the proceeds go to athletics. That maybe would draw interest into the athletics side and eventually free up money for the academic side of UH. Although I think that there was some issue about using the SSC for concerts since it conflicted with the use of the Blaisdell (a city facility) or something like that…

    And you are right, Elvis did hold a benefit concert here to raise funds for the Arizona Memorial….

  65. Unkanesson August 26, 2010 9:07 am

    Howzit Tsaiko Nation!

    #39 – I’m all in favor of creative ways of generating financial support for the UH Athletic program. I’m sure there are staffers in the department, as well as Na Koa, working on just that. Omidyar’s name comes up often because of his high profile and financial resources, but just because you haven’t heard about it doesn’t mean he hasn’t been approached. In fact, I’d be surprised if they haven’t approached him and every other well-heeled member of the community they think might be interested.

    We fans should continue to come up with innovative ideas to support our UH athletic programs and communicate them to the people who can implement them. With the nationwide representation on this blog, we should also be finding out about fundraising techniques that have worked at universities across the country.

  66. al August 26, 2010 9:14 am

    do you think that if byu returns to the mwc after all this havoc they created that the mwc would still have an interest in utah state?

    i think utah state’s potential membership was tied to the utah tv market and with byu going back to the mwc that would leave utah st out in the cold with the rest of us wac-ky leftovers.

    it is also interesting that the pac10 could technically disapprove of colorado and utah when the offical vote goes down in october. although that would be highly unlikely since it would definitely lose credibility if they did a turn around.

  67. dopaco24 August 26, 2010 9:16 am


    This is not NCAA football on your PS3 where you can remove players from your roster for the year. A redshirt can practice and dress with the team. If injuries occur to players ahead of him in the depth chart, he could be thrust into a role of significant playing time. George Daily-Lyles was in that situation last year and was on the travel squad for the WSU, UNLV, and LA Tech games. However, he hurt his hamstring and the coaches decided to keep him on the redshirt path.

  68. Pauoa Boy August 26, 2010 9:16 am

    Allen Sampson needs to play. Coach Mack doesn’t have time to mess around and needs to put his best players on the field and get the W’s this year. If we go through another season and miss another bowl game, I believe his days will be numbered as head coach. Allen Sampson is another Chad Owens waiting to burst onto the college seen. Chad had the quicks and instincts but Allen Sampson has both and is much faster too. Same with Darius Bright…he is due for a breakout season and with his size and toughness how can you not get this guy on the field? Yeah we may be stacked at the wideout position but I would have Darius in on certain packages and especially in redzone area where he can abuse lil DB’s with his height. He’s also a beast on special teams from the few practices I’ve seen. I think both these guys are stars waiting to breakout and I would unleash them onto the field as soon as possible.

  69. d1島 August 26, 2010 9:17 am


    Make that: Double drivel 😆

  70. wafan August 26, 2010 9:19 am

    PB . . .

    Are you still in CA or now in AZ? Hope things are going well!

  71. wafan August 26, 2010 9:19 am

    Snivel drivel, anyone?

  72. wafan August 26, 2010 9:20 am

    Sun’s out. Darn.

  73. bb August 26, 2010 9:21 am

    Traffic is gonna suck next week.

    It’s bad already but put a ton of cars and people headed in the direction of the stadium and its going to be horrible.

    Then you have those people who are coming from the east that will “cheat.” You know who you are. When the traffic is backed up in the right lane (for the Stadium Exit) all the way by Bob’s Big Boy and Moanalua Gardens you are in the next lane. You pass the entire line and then sneak in right at the Halawa Exit. With all the schools in session now plus the game I wouldn’t be surprised if it is stop and go by the Likelike exit. For sure there will be a ton of those cheaters next Thursday.

    I purposely hug the left side of the lane and make sure i watch my spacing with the car in front of me to prevent those who are lazy.

  74. al August 26, 2010 9:23 am

    yup. i agree with that. suit em up.

    if pollard’s value is at wr, then let sampson be the speed guy.

    if pollard’s value is at speed guy, then let bright be ready in case of an oweee.

    special team’s play is so critical and accounts for 20% of the game. each play on special teams has the potential to be a game breaker whether it is fg’s, pat’s, ko, and punt teams.

    this should be a no brainer given the fact this is a very crucial year for warrior football because you can bet your dollar that win/losses played a huge role in our wac or no wac predicament this year and the year’s to come.

  75. Slugger August 26, 2010 9:25 am

    Good morning, gangeez!

    Mahalo for putting up the pics, ST. It was good to see that Alex Green is feeling better.

  76. al August 26, 2010 9:26 am

    escape the traffic next week.

    attend the tsaiko tailgate.

    beat the crowd.

    5 f’s






  77. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 9:28 am

    I agree with Pauoa Boy #68…

    so we can go “weeeeee weeeee weeeee!”

    like the little happy pig

    all the way home to the Christmas Sheraton Bowl!

  78. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 9:29 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Judge not lest ye be judged. I like that.

    As far as redshirting goes, if its a tossup, why not ask the players involved what they would like?

    Also, in the case of Allen Sampson for example, what’s the projection for his positions in the 2011 season? Would he be of better used and more helpful to the depth chart at that time?

    Saying that we should play him now because we need to win, and then have him sit out most of the time, doesn’t seem like the best and highest use of what appears to be a great talent.

    At the end of the day, redshirting should be something a player is toyaly comfortable with.

  79. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 9:33 am

    Another thought on redshirts – If Bright and Sampson look likr they could crack the starting rotation, then they need to play this year. If they can beat out the great talent we alreday have, then our team will be all the better for it.

  80. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 9:34 am

    Give me a “D”…

    Give me a “R”…

    Give me an “I”…

    Give me a “V”…

    Give me an “E”…

    Give me a “L”…



    Go Warriors!

    Go Rainbows!

    Go Waipio!

    Go home happy!

  81. Pauoa Boy August 26, 2010 9:35 am

    Coach Shaw said he looks like a genius??? Okay sorry Coach I have to disagree. First of all our offensive line is really the weakest link on the offense at this point and has been somewhat horrid the past few years. We may have had a star in John Estes but even so we got murdered and led the nation in sacks??? Rotating interior lineman still when your season opener against USC is next Thursday is asking for a miracle to happen. USC is salivating right now waiting to use our boys as an example that they mean business this year despite all the hu hu nonsense surrounding them. Our track record against them proves that we are in dip kim chee if we don’t get solidified with our personnel and game plan quick, fast, and in a hurry! Our offensive line is not really experienced playing with each other either with most playing a different position from before except maybe Pepa. But lucky he got that exemption or else we’d be very inexperienced somewhat. What gets me is that Sila went down and immediately you input Tiwanak. Tiwanak through most of training has been the number one guy and then you want to throw Brett in the mix??? For what? Wasn’t Brett already solid at the guard position? I know Bulla is a beast too but why move Brett last minute? What happened to the other center backups like Sapolu, Afusia??? I dunno to me I don’t like all the shuffling around when this OLine should have been solid after spring. Hope Brett makes it back soon. It also tells me that maybe Tiwanak isn’t the guy and doesn’t have Coach Shaw’s confidence. Regardless I hope Tiwanak is that guy and proves that he can be our starter. We’ll see but at this point I’m a little skeptical especially with USC coming to town…

  82. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 9:36 am


  83. Stretch August 26, 2010 9:37 am


    August 26th, 2010 at 9:21 am

    I purposely hug the left side of the lane and make sure i watch my spacing with the car in front of me to prevent those who are lazy.

    Come on bb, you not going let me cut in front of you?? hahahaha

  84. Bulla August 26, 2010 9:37 am



  85. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 9:39 am

    like* and already* above. sorry

  86. gigi-hawaii August 26, 2010 9:40 am

    re traffic — or you could all live up the hill from the stadium like me…

  87. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 9:41 am

    Hey bulla! Howzit stretch! Hello al!

  88. bb August 26, 2010 9:43 am

    #83–I forgot to mention I have a “Friends and Family Rule.” If I know you I will let you in. I’ve done this many times.

    Stretch, you may cut. I interpret your message as “asking nicely.” Give me the make and color of your car and you are more then welcome to cut in front of the green tacoma with the H logo on the sides.

    All cute girls, women driving minivans with children, and “older” fans who may have gotten blocked out of the lane way back may be waved through as well.

  89. d1島 August 26, 2010 9:43 am


  90. d1島 August 26, 2010 9:46 am

    Pauoa Boy,

    I agree….but no worry, the refs going take care us! 😆

  91. Pauoa Boy August 26, 2010 9:48 am

    wafan – in Arizona for the time being


    Howzit…garrans babbarans if our receiver corps wasn’t so deep with stars like Salas, Bradley, Pilares, etc…both these guys would be starting. Darius Bright with his size has that NFL look and I’m sure he’ll prove that he is the next one to make it happen. To me he was beastin during camp and stood out along with Salas Bradley, and Pilares. He also looked the best on special teams coverage, etc… Allen Sampson could also start, but why not just make him the permanent return guy for punts and share the kick return duties with Royce? I mean if Royce is the starting wideout, garrans he going have planny PT already…but does he have enough stamina to field kicks too? I would have Sampson be my primary return guy to get him on the field and use his ability. He could spot Kealoha or Greg a few plays here and there when needed too. I mean with his speed and quicks I would use him like Dexter McCluster from Ole Miss. Same smallish built but was a hybrid RB/WR/PR/KR too. Anyway, we’ll see but I say put your best players on the field regardless of situation. Same goes for John Hardy-Tuliau, this kid is a beast and needs to be on the field. He has that knack for blocking kicks too and proved it during training, he’s a must on special teams!

  92. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 9:51 am

    Dey you go, PB!

  93. Stretch August 26, 2010 9:52 am

    bb – “H logos on the side”??!!?? No tell me YOU picked up my two magnetic “H” logos that fell off my truck on the freeway after one of the games. They were pretty big, about 18″x18″. Look for me, I have a gold Tundra and will have two flags flying on the back window, a “H” and Tapa “UA” stickers on the tailgate.

  94. Derek August 26, 2010 9:55 am

    The question is, will Sampson and Bright be contributors this season.? My answer is yes, both in terms of special teams and in the offense. In Sampson’s case, being from Florida and so far away from home I would want him to be involved in the program and be actively participating with the team so that he has a good feeling about his commit to Hawaii. You don’t want to be like Andrew Pearman from Virginia who was a highly touted player, but never made it through for 4-5 years. Same for Kevin Konrath from Illinois. We want Allen Sampson to finish his career with the Warriors. If he gets injured while playing then he can always fall back on the reshirt year. If he’s good enough to play this year I say let him play. He might make a huge difference. From what I hear and from what I saw at practice, this guy is a playmaker and can make some big plays, and big plays wins games for you. Same goes for Bright. Greg McMackin does not have the luxury of saving good players who can play right away. He has to win this year and make it to a bowl game at the very least. What’s also at stake is Hawaii’s perception in football which will impact money, TV, recruiting, scheduling, conference affiliation, etc. Win pretty big and Hawaii becomes more attractive on all fronts. A losing record does not improve your chances for more TV games and being wanted by other conferences. The old saying of “just win baby” is so true. If we had a record like Boise State I would wager that the MWC would have been calling us to invite us. See, the MWC is all about trying to get BCS AQ. That’s what they want and they have very open about it. Unfortunately, Fresno St. and Nevada in my opinion doesn’t help their chances and Utah State doesn’t either. MWC losing Utah is a pretty big blow. If they lose BYU it’s double whammy. If TCU leaves for the Big 12, what you have is something like the old WAC. Hawaii in the future will be in a better place, I really believe that.

  95. Mad Dog August 26, 2010 10:00 am

    The way I see it is if BY-boo huu goes independent, then the MWC will take Utah State to fulfill it’s television commitments for the state. If BYU goes back to the MWC, Utah State might still get an invite. In either case, it’s like the Titanic WAC crashed into the Mountain West iceberg. It’s sinking fast and there are only a few lifeboats remaining. Some WAC teams will be left trying to stay afloat in the icy water.

  96. R Smoke August 26, 2010 10:05 am

    Since Rausch didn’t play at all last year due to and injury to his finger, is he elgibile to apply for a medical hardship? That would mean he’d be around next year too.

  97. al August 26, 2010 10:06 am

    for many who feel that genetics have nothing to do with talent then you need to check this one out.


  98. roysan16 August 26, 2010 10:09 am

    # haka:

    August 26th, 2010 at 8:44 am

    It may be best that the athletes decide if they will redshirt or not. The coaches and players lay out the scenarios and in the end, the player makes the choice.

    Is this what you mean by profound statement?

    I don’t think any coach would agree with you.

  99. Pauoa Boy August 26, 2010 10:10 am

    Seems like BYU holds the key right now. As much as I dislike the Cougs for our obvious past rivalries, I hope they can be our alliance and join us in making the WAC credible. I know its a long shot as they look to go independent and have the means to do it but man that would be a great start if they rejoined the WAC. MWC is all about trying to get that automatic BCS bid by making their conference somewhat strong with the addition of BSU but without Utah or BYU that thought will be out the window. Oh well, hope JD leads our program in the right direction as I would hate to see UH football dissapear…

  100. roysan16 August 26, 2010 10:14 am

    Sorry for all my statements, I am an idiot

  101. mctruck August 26, 2010 10:16 am

    According to ESPN ticker-tape….BYU is staying put in the MWC. Forget all hopes of any WAC alliance gangieesss!!

  102. roysan16 August 26, 2010 10:17 am

    # roysan16:

    August 26th, 2010 at 10:14 am

    Sorry for all my statements, I am an idiot

    Good one haka

  103. roysan16 August 26, 2010 10:18 am

    btw haka you masqueraded as playa and jack, too?

  104. al August 26, 2010 10:22 am

    yup, rausch may have that opportunity if he kept all of tsai’s articles.

  105. Stretch August 26, 2010 10:22 am

    Damn roysan – you are a walking dictionary. good thing for google

  106. mctruck August 26, 2010 10:22 am

    I say again……don’t wait for Benson to try to bring into the WAC, schools east of the rockies who can ill afford the travel costs to be in the WAC.(Same ol’story in the end). If it happens to us a third-time…just call us stupid.

    Time for JD and Hinshaw to request UH inclussion with Big West in all sports except fb…..and take our chances as an indie-school in fb. End story.

  107. Pauoa Boy August 26, 2010 10:24 am

    #104 – lol, documentation is key

  108. al August 26, 2010 10:28 am

    rausch should apply for it next year. i think he graduates this year and he could work towards his master’s at the expense of the state of hawaii.

    besides as the number two he is but one snap away from seeing the field. after all his time here, he deserves a look sooner or later. he could be another dan robinson i believe.

  109. Last Call:

    August 26th, 2010 at 8:36 am

    The Hawai`i Supa Bowzooka ?

    Someone is gonna hurt by that thing.

    HA! 😆

  110. al August 26, 2010 10:29 am

    good to see you pboy. hope you can make a game this year.

    off to meet duffer to watch the waipio team at tiffany’s.

  111. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 10:29 am


    Tsai-kos are 😎

  112. d1島 August 26, 2010 10:30 am


    If the OL doesn’t gel quickly, any Hawaii QB could look like Dan Robinson!

  113. Stretch August 26, 2010 10:33 am


    August 26th, 2010 at 10:30 am


    If the OL doesn’t gel quickly, any Hawaii QB could look like Dan Robinson!

    CORRECTION…. If the OL doesn’t gel quickly, every Hawaii QB will NEED Dan Robinson

  114. 😆 Good one Stretch! I had to think about that for a sec.

    (oh yeah he’s a dentist now)

  115. al August 26, 2010 10:41 am

    too funny.

    good ones.

  116. Mad Dog August 26, 2010 10:41 am

    If UH football disappears or if it’s level of competition is reduced, the resulting diminished income will affect the status of the other athletic teams. Some teams will be cut. In the worse case scenario, the entire athletic program would end or be reduced to club level competition. That’s how important/urgent the next week will be.

  117. A-House August 26, 2010 10:42 am

    J(J): #41

    agree that UH needs to look outside the box and discuss support with as many as possible – not only the obvious ones, but there are many who appear to be “average” yet their wealth is hidden.

    Talk to Bette Midler – no harm, but I don’t think she will donate as she was very unhappy as the only non-Samoanploy family growing up where Aloha Stadium now sits. She never mentions growing up in Hawaii on any interview. If the interviewer brings it up, she “brushes” it on the side.

    NO HARM IN ASKING! Be prepared for some, many to say no and move on.

  118. A-House August 26, 2010 10:45 am

    If the distance for the “super bowzuka” is only 45′, is this any difference to the one now used at games? This will never reach the “upper levels”.

  119. A-House August 26, 2010 10:46 am

    Wonder how the “movers ‘n shakers” are doing? Will they announce a plan shortly?

  120. Bulla August 26, 2010 10:46 am

    Aloha all,

    Let’s give a big shout out to our team from Waipio….gotta dig deep or else go sleep…..

    triumph = next time you try, put some umph into it for the victory….. 🙂

  121. gigi-hawaii August 26, 2010 10:47 am

    bulla, tri-umph…love your play on words!

  122. NCAA August 26, 2010 10:49 am

    Mr. roysan16 a walking dictionary? I don’t think so.


    August 24th, 2010 at 5:12 pm


    …Please except the fact I wanted you to be angered….


    August 25th, 2010 at 4:25 am

    #272 jack

    …But don’t worry about me jack for I’m no treat to this blog as I don’t post as much as I used to…

    But then again, maybe he meant to spell those words like that.

    Go Waipio

    Go Wahine

    Go Warriors

    Go Mr. roysan16

  123. roysan16 August 26, 2010 10:51 am

    # Stretch:

    August 26th, 2010 at 10:22 am

    Damn roysan – you are a walking dictionary. good thing for google


    good one. good use of a cryptic message. mull on this-its a small island you know that right?

  124. Bulla August 26, 2010 10:52 am


    hope all is well, a pleasant surprise to see you again….your neighborhood is going to be busy this time next week, haha. GO WARRIORS

  125. (Jesse) James August 26, 2010 10:56 am

    A-House #117…I never knew that, in all the interviews I’ve seen of her, and her bio-done by E Network, she spoke of only good things about living in Hawaii….and growing up here, and I know the times she appeared on Johnny Carson, she brought him a lei each time….even when she was there as his last guest….

  126. Stretch August 26, 2010 10:57 am

    roysan16 – I know it’s a small island, come by say Hi anytime.

  127. NCAA August 26, 2010 10:58 am

    Hi Mr. Stretch.

  128. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 10:58 am

    OK, I shouldn’t have had that energy drink. I feel like I’m about to have a heart attack.

  129. aka El Padrino August 26, 2010 10:58 am

    As I listed to the Curran Show this morning all of the UH talk was about the lack of interest shown by the MWC: travel costs, timing, academics.

    Another topic of interest is recruitment. UH is out recruiting in all of the same sports as MWC members. Compete on the field as well as compete in getting players is a no win, at this time, for the MWC.

  130. aka El Padrino August 26, 2010 10:59 am

    listed should be listened

  131. expat August 26, 2010 11:04 am


    In Shaw’s first year Hawaii had a significant improvement in sacks allowed. The guys were tied with SMU at 36 over 13 games according to the official NCAA stats. (Boise was first with a paltry 5 over 14 games) Hawaii wasn’t even the worst in the WAC (SJSU). 2008 was a different story at 4.07 sacks allowed (and ranked last)

    Interestingly, during the 2007 season the line was at 2.69 allowed (ranked 100) — not much different from last year.

  132. Slugger August 26, 2010 11:05 am


    Nice piece on Barry Sanders, Jr.. Mouse Davis instructed us on this point last night when he was talking about a player’s stance, as well as weighting for a directional start from the line. (From the article you posted:)

    Sanders responded when asked about his best attributes on the field. “I would also say balance. Balance is a key part. I have got to be balanced to take hits and break tackles. As a running back that is something that you have to have to break tackles and get away.”

  133. roysan16 August 26, 2010 11:05 am


    why waste precious time? today’s bantering stimulating for you? must be.

  134. greenthumb August 26, 2010 11:06 am

    #61 Jun Tao and #64 (Jesse) James — exactly! The inspiration of what someone would want to contribute that others would want to donate to support happening. Huge concert would be great. Dream big, then fine tune. If we can’t use SSC, how about reviving the Crater Festival, except turn it into a day of sports clinics for adult fans, like the ones that just happened for football? Sports stuff for kids and teenagers, too, and then in the afternoon/evening a concert with multiple performers? Make it fun, and you’d probably attract a lot of former UH players from a bunch of sports to turn out.

    (Side trivia note, Elvis helped with the Arizona Memorial in part because of his WWII service; he later also helped with a Kui Lee Cancer Fund fundraiser. So just because people have volunteered in the past, doesn’t mean they won’t be willing to again.)

  135. SteveM August 26, 2010 11:10 am

    Good morning everyone!

    dopaco24 — Welcome to the blog! Thanks for the info in #35. Would you know what minimums a current D-1A team must meet to maintain their status if they went INDEPENDENT?

  136. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:11 am

    Am I missing something?

    I don’t think anybody is attacking anybody.

    Or shouldn’t be.

    I think all people have valid points. I think some people think their points are more valid than they really are. But, you know, opinions are just opinions. It’s part of our makeup, and you can’t fault people for feeling the way they do.

    Anyway, let’s all get along. Because the opener is a week away, and I’m pretty excited about that.

  137. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:15 am

    Back to redshirting:

    I really think the NCAA needs to just give each player five years to play five seasons. No redshirting. Because it’s unfortunate if a player is redshirted as a freshman, then gets injured as a junior. That’s two wasted years. And it avoids the dilemma of whether to hold Sampson or not for the season opener. Because, on the one hand, he’s good enough to play as a freshman. On the other, with the redshirt rules, he also could be penalized if he’s not on the two-deep at slotback. Right now, he’s not. Even Bright probably is running third at left wideout, behind Rodney Bradley and Joe Avery. Would I like to see Bright have two years after this? Of course. But I’d like to see him play this year, too. I’m torn. Coaches are probably more torn.

  138. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] August 26, 2010 11:21 am

    Good Day!! Need to find a way to check into this on my cell phone…. Help anybody, advice??

  139. RoyGBivs [Terence Twk Wong] August 26, 2010 11:23 am

    Hopeful I can leave early next week for the game, maybe like after lunch…..

  140. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:25 am

    If Brett Leonard can get healthy, then the Warriors will rotate four players at the three interior-line positions and three players at the two tackle spots. The wild card, as mentioned before, is Chauncy Winchester-Makainai, who was supposed to be in the mix at tackle and guard but fell behind while trying to learn center. And then he was hurt for a bit.

    So, in review: There are seven players considered first-team guys; a number that swells to nine if you count Winchester-Makainai and injured center Matagisila Lefiti. There are five second-teamers. In all, there are 12 to 14 players getting serious reps.

    The Warriors probably will hold out the five freshman o-linemen for the first three games, saving their red-shirt possibilities. A second big decision will come after the Warriors return from the Army-Colorado trip.

  141. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:27 am

    Last year, Fonoti was ready for the UNLV game, but not the earlier Washington State game. The Warriors don’t expect to do any roster switching between the Army and Colorado road games. So, again, the active roster for the Army game will remain in place for the Colorado game.

  142. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:30 am

    Who are the newcomers who make it?

    Definitely, cornerback John Hardy-Tuliau.

    Dee Maggitt is on the bubble, but I think he makes it.

    Bubba Poueu-Luna is drawing raves, too. I think he makes it.

    Siaki Cravens is a lock.

    I think T.J. would have made it if it weren’t for the injury.

    I’m pretty sure Dustin Elisara will redshirt.

    Tyler Haddon? The way Scott Enos is kicking, Haddon might be able to redshirt. Not sure what happens with Kyle Niiro.

  143. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:41 am

    Off topic:

    Yes, it erodes Congress’ power when those who testify lie to lawmakers.

    But what exactly was accomplished with Congress’ hearings on steroids, except to criminalize users and force confessions? It didn’t do anything except devalue the Mark McGwire’s 62nd home run ball.

    I don’t think people should use steroids because 1) it gives an unfair advantage, and 2) it is harmful to the user. Nor do I like Roger Clemens, because I’m a Mets fan, and he never played for the Mets. I just don’t understand the point of those hearings except to force public confessions. Or was that the point?

    Anyone have an opinion on this?

  144. ezhawaiian August 26, 2010 11:41 am

    ANYONE know whats the PA announcers name for the University’s game? he came to my vendor area at the swap meet! i’m selling an INFLATABLE WARRIOR that i designed with blessings from a kumu and a couple of halau’s. He complimented me on it, and said the University should have this warrior on the field, He thought it was cool! ! ! !.

    ANYONE know his name and how i can get a hold of him? MAHALO! GO WARRIORS! KICK SOME TROJAN OKOLE!!!

  145. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 11:42 am

    Ross Smith?

    I think he’s the one who calls out the plays, and says stuff like: Say “Yes” to “Noh,” and “Say Hello to Best Buy.”

  146. ezhawaiian August 26, 2010 11:53 am

    Short guy…i think thats him! he says he’s does all the PA stuff!!!! thank you! very much!!! now lets see if he can hook something up to get an inflatable 8 foot warrior on the field for the game!!! (the produced 100, don’t come in till right after Labor Day) if you wanna see a pic Stephen, send me your email addrees, mines is warriorsxcetera@aol.com

    thanks for the quick answer!! aloha!! and also, i think condoms should be passed out at the game, to make fun of the TROJAN condoms!! heeehee! just a thought!! aloha!!

  147. ezhawaiian August 26, 2010 12:02 pm


  148. Coconutchaser August 26, 2010 12:06 pm

    Happy Birthday to the Warriors #54, Siaki Soliai-Cravens!

  149. dopaco24 August 26, 2010 12:06 pm

    Thank you, SteveM. I’ve been a long time reader of the blog. I just never really wrote or posted until now. I had the minimum requirements saved to my computer in a PDF file. I can’t remember which folder I saved it in. Well anyway I’ll try to go by memory.

    To be FBS, you must:

    1)hand out 85 full scholarships to your football players.

    2)have an average paid or actual game attendance of at least 15,000 over a running 2 year period

    3)play at least 60 percent of your games against other FBS schools

    4)play at least 5 home games against FBS competition. Allows for 1 neutral site home game to be allowed to the 5 game minimum per year.

    5)play at least 9 games.

    I think that’s it, however, I may have missed something.

    Anyway, Hawai’i is has no problem meeting any of these requirements.

  150. Souljah August 26, 2010 12:10 pm

    BYU might have decided to stay with Houston to follow…


  151. Last Call August 26, 2010 12:15 pm

    From Twitter

    Nevada AD notified Mr. Peanut at the WAC that they are leaving the WAC in 2011 according to Brian Murphy at the Idaho Statesman .


  152. Last Call August 26, 2010 12:16 pm

    Take dat Mr. Peanut.

  153. A-House August 26, 2010 12:19 pm


    maybe roysan16 likes to do it phonetikly?

  154. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 12:23 pm

    Can someone clarify if Nevada and Fresno State can leave for the fall of 2011 without approval from the WAC presidents?

  155. SteveM August 26, 2010 12:23 pm

    dopaco24 — thanks for the info! That’s exactly what I was looking for…

    so, no matter if we play 12 or 13 games, we would need to play at least 8 FBS schools.

    … the 5 home games against FBS requirement could be iffy….

    but we’d need only 3 body bag games on the road.

    But we could schedule up to 5 D-1AA’s!

    Tsigh… 🙁

  156. Last Call August 26, 2010 12:24 pm

    Sounds like they are telling the WAC we’re leaving in 2011 and if you don’t like it sue us.

  157. Last Call August 26, 2010 12:26 pm

    All I can say is don’t mess with us we got da Supa Bowzooka .

  158. ezhawaiian August 26, 2010 12:27 pm

    i say change the name of the wac, get some texas teams (SMU?) and make the best out of mess!!! the WAC will die soon…i can feel it! so restructure the WAC and make it WESTERN TEXAN ATHLETIC CONFERENCE….or something, since the SWAC is taken! whatchya think?

  159. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 12:29 pm

    Last Call: August 26th, 2010 at 12:24 pm Sounds like they are telling the WAC we’re leaving in 2011 and if you don’t like it sue us.

    Then I hope we do.

  160. A-House August 26, 2010 12:32 pm

    Is there a difference of opinion when Nevada can leave? If a school decides to leave after 7/1, by conference rules, must wait an extra year before leaving?

    Boise St did so before 7/1/10 so they stay for 2010.

    Fresno and Nevada decided on/about 8/3/10 and therefore can leave after the 2011 season is over?

    What’s da beef with Nevada? Feeling the heat that Colorado and Utah will not be confirmed by the PAC 10 presidents?

    or, now with BYU staying, worried that their position is tenuous?

  161. Last Call August 26, 2010 12:36 pm

    I don’t care what Nevada or Fresno State does I want to know what we’re going to do.How long does it take to weight our options and study the studies.

  162. aka El Padrino August 26, 2010 12:40 pm

    Concert talk is already in the works via the Letterwinners Club.

    SSC is available since it is a fundraiser. Schedule needs to be worked out but a good date seems to be May 15. I believe that to be the day after graduation. Seems like the seating might be left up for the concert.

    Makaha Sons have been contacted and they in turn will contact their fellow musicians for a benefit kanakapila.

    Makaha Sons have their own Foundation so it is possible to have all proceeds go to scholarships: some to their Foundation that sends students to UH, some to Letterwinners for the scholarship fund.

    This is in the preliminary talk stage only, at this time.

  163. OldDiver August 26, 2010 12:41 pm

    Speaking of traffic, any tips on what time I should leave for the USC game to arrive there about 4:15? I’m coming from Wilder Ave and parking in the outer circle. I don’t drive that side at all during the afternoon.

  164. OldDiver August 26, 2010 12:44 pm

    Nevada can say what they want about when they are leaving. In the end, if they want out it will have to be negotiated. If no one can come to an agreement then the courts will decide.

  165. haka August 26, 2010 12:45 pm

    Just to clear things up a bit.

    #102 was not me

    #103 no


    I know you really care. I believe that. Like me, you want the Warriors to do well. I am wrong to negatively question your beliefs directly or indirectly. I will refrain from doing so forthwith. Supporting the Warriors and all of Hawaii really, is what it’s all about.

    Much aloha to you,


  166. Silky Voice of the Gorn August 26, 2010 12:49 pm

    From yesterdays blog

    #281 roysan16:

    What I like about Silky Voice of the Gorn is that he tells things like the are, no sugar coating and no brown nosing.

    I don’t like sticking my head in the sand and prefer looking at things from multiple point of views including taking the devils advocate approach. It makes you think about the various issues that much harder when looking at things with a contrarian view. FYI, the last time I posted here was at the tail end of the 2009 season.

    #39 Jun Tao:

    On another note, there are many successful people here in Hawaii… maybe not born and raised but they make Hawaii their current home. Why can’t UH seek these people out to invest in the local economy (more importantly UH) to see if they could donate some of their funds?

    Can I be downright blunt in answering this question? I have personal experience in dealing with the upper layers of the UH (systemwide and Manoa) bureaucracy as well as the middle level director level and let me tell you, the elevator does not go all the way to the top floor with a larger majority of them. Proactiveness is NOT a quality that exists in the workplace culture in the UH system. There is far more promise as you head into the trenches but many of the bright minds who have useful and workable ideas are shoved off into the corners of the campus. The inside joke is they are known as mushrooms (kept in the dark and growing in the doodoo that is crapped on them from above).

    I think I read recently in a previous blog posting that Garret VOLUNTEERED to help assist the UHAD in some manner but didn’t receive any sort of response. Sounds typical. At least administratively, someone should respond back as a courtesy (politely declining, saying they will need to look into the proper procedures, etc). Seriously though, you’d have to be an idiot not to find a way to work with someone as smart and sharp as him.

    Anyway, regarding BYU, they will use everyone else as pawns in the process as their ultimate goal is a higher ambition like the Big 12; IMO, it is not only about AQ status but also, a higher level of competition and prestige (the larger revenue potential also doesn’t hurt). That draft memorandum is telling as to what BYU really thinks of the MWC (i.e. the clause they likely agreed to that if the MWC were to gain AQ status, that BYU would not return to the MWC). In a nutshell, BYU just served the MWC notice. From BYU’s view, the tactical move by Thompson to take away Fresno and Nevada to make the WAC less appealing just nuked their plan A. Now BYU is likely evaluating plan B which is independent and rest of their sports in the WCC. Thompson has little ammo as far as that goes and all he did was take on added dead weight with Nevada (at least Fresno has more value). Oh how even more appealing this makes the MWC to BYU… NOT! So even if BYU decides in the interim to stay put, the terms they will get from the MWC will likely have clauses beneficial to them at the expense to the rest of the conference members.

    I also need to elaborate on what I said when I mentioned I’m okay with UH being a part of a neutered WAC. I did say “initially” for a reason as it relates to giving UH time to get its own house in order. Yes, it may be initially very unappealing BUT as I also mentioned, things cannot be business as usual going forward in that scenario. UH can no longer be satisfied with the status quo as that line of thinking is one reason we weren’t better positioned for possible future changes. UH as the senior conference member needs to fight for terms that are beneficial for them considering they’ve been instrumental in having to help save the conference twice. Included in that premise of trying to make the conference work is the two major sports need to start winning (especially OOC games) and gaining respect. This is key to recruiting. Being in a conference initially while doing this is a far more stable platform when it comes to scheduling.

    It’s easy for the talking heads on ESPN to flippantly say Hawaii should go independent because they would be able to line up higher quality teams. These folks barely understand the simple fact that it is not just the dollars to travel here but the time it takes to get here and back (not to mention time zone differences). UH would need to make the payout high to consistently get those teams to play here. Like potentially buying out the coaches contract, exactly where is that money going to come from? Else, UH will have little choice but to play most of these body bag games away. Recently, we’ve gotten our asses kicked to hell and back in our home stadium by such teams. Realistically, just how much losing will the fair weather fan take and exactly what sort of impact will that have on interest in the program and recruiting? As things stand now, we need to crawl before we can walk. The progress of this years team should help to answer whether or not the UH football program is ready to even take the leap as an independent by 2012.

  167. NCAA August 26, 2010 12:50 pm

    Why Congressional Hearings on steroids? It stems from the investigation that found steroids are being used at an earlier age to gain a physical advantage.

    But why pick on MLB? Because baseball is America’s pastime. Baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet. Throughout the decades baseball had an image of being pure (never mind the Blacksox scandal). To protect the integrity of baseball, the hearings were held.

    I just made that up. Please don’t crucify me people.

  168. Silky Voice of the Gorn August 26, 2010 12:51 pm

    Sorry for the odd formatting…. cut and pasted from a text document did that…

  169. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 12:52 pm

    If Fresno and Nevada slither away to the MWC after this season then it might force UH’s “hand” early.

  170. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 12:55 pm

    #100…I forgive you a hundred times…

    no worry…

    just like family.

  171. A-House August 26, 2010 1:03 pm

    Reading Reardon’s column this morning stirs my ire again about the term “travel expenses/costs”, but nobody ever releases “figures”; only generic termanology.

    C’mon, tell us in writing the estimated expenses to fly a football team with coaching staff to Hawaii – 60 players and 15 staff!

    always the “generic” excuse (actually, reason to them), but nothing to back them up. I projected about $45,000 per trip ( air and hotel ) and $22,500 over 2 years. Will this broke the bank account for the better off teams? Hell, I’m sure that they can clear more than $22,500 for an extra home game. or, is that expecting too much?

  172. A-house,

    Irritating yeah? The thing is, even if we offset 100% of the travel COSTS, other school can always fire back and cite the travel time as an issue and there is nothing we can do about that.

    I think it’s how the issue is presented.

    That’s what concerns me about the cash-strapped Big West Conference. With all the schools in the BWC in the state of California, the travel subsides we’ll offer SHOULD be enough to satisfy their budget concerns, but all those schools so accustomed to travel by bus for in conference play so how do we present them the issue of hopping on a 4-5 hour plane ride for a conference game in Manoa?

    To me, the added value of a UH program like Wahine volleyball and softball is a plus, not to mention our baseball facilities and fan following. That’s just for starters…

  173. USC T-GATE!!!!




    If you are not aware of the change please e-mail me at tsaikotailgate (at) gmail (dot) com.

    I believe SailorBlue already posted the needed info before, but just checking again to cover all bases.

  174. Glad to hear on the tail-end of the Call The Coach Show w/Dave Shoji that there IS a new banner up in the Stanley recognizing the Wahine’s dominance in the WAC and their presence in the NCAA Final Four.

  175. Steve August 26, 2010 1:20 pm

    That banner should make Papa Leahey extremely happy tomorrow evening.

  176. The banner should be noticeably larger than the NCAA National Championship ones.

    I still think it would have been better to have one banner for EACH WAC title and EACH NCAA Final Four appearance.

    Gaudy and tacky I know, but imagine walking into that place as a fan, a recruit, or a rival in volleyball and knowing you are setting foot in THE STAN SHERIFF CENTER: WHERE VOLLEYBALL LIVES!!!.

  177. Speaking of Jim Leahey…


    I hope its just a regular sports talk show with Papa Leahey and Pal and not a show dedicated strictly to Makule League Softball. 😆

    (Don’t crucify me! I play slowpitch! … sometimes. 😆 )

  178. Steve August 26, 2010 1:32 pm

    If it is anything like what happens when they do baseball it should be quite a show to listen to.

  179. d1島 August 26, 2010 1:34 pm

    Missed the tag!


  180. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 1:43 pm

    ST- about your phone situation… perhaps you could use this!


  181. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 1:47 pm


  182. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 1:54 pm

    al – no look. Waipio doing good… so far 😆

  183. Just found the article about Coach Valdez leaving the program.

    It has not been a perfect road to the start of the 2011-2012 Rainbow Wahine basketball season for Coach Dana. She just replaced Patrick Knapp and now another spot opens up.

    At least the players look to be ready to play. We should see some more improvement with the additions of Kuehu, Ayabe, and Tinin back in the line up.

  184. SteveM August 26, 2010 1:59 pm

    LizKauai (iChrome):

    August 26th, 2010 at 1:54 pm

    al – no look. Waipio doing good… so far

    OK, Al has been warned!

    So what’s happening in the game and what’s the score? 👿

  185. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:00 pm

    Benson said Nevada and Fresno State cannot leave next year if it causes a hardship to the WAC. Both schools may negotiate early-exit deal, I suppose. But the deadline for leaving is pretty clear-. Could Nevada and Fresno State win a lawsuit? Maybe. But why risk it? IF you lose, not only are you on the hook for breaking an agreement, you’re also legally exposed if the WAC folds because of those actions. That means you have to calculate the millions in potential lost revenue (everything from possible money for games to loss of enrollment), and, well, that’s going to add up. If I were both schools I would help the WAC find replacement teams, and then do the time. Fresno waited 12 years to get into the MWC. What’s another year in a league (without Boise) that it can dominate?

  186. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:03 pm

    Silky Voice:

    I think the best route for Garret would be to e-mail Donovan directly. He’s very good about responding.

  187. Kaimuki Kid August 26, 2010 2:03 pm

    A-House #171

    It is not just the Football Teams coming into Hawaii to play but “all sports” coming into Hawaii to compete. It is a bunch of kala…

  188. If Fresno and Nevada leave for the MWC in the fall of 2011, it WILL cause hardship for the WAC.

    Unless Benson has two teams ready to come in that quickly, there is no way around it.

  189. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:09 pm

    Re: Travel.

    It doesn’t matter whether UH thinks the travel isn’t so bad or the value of the 13th game.

    Bottom line is nobody has asked UH to join — the MWC, Big West, WCC, C-USA, Ala Wai Makule League.

    UH, concerned about the WAC’s future, has been exploring the possibility of arrangements with other conferences.

    When you’re not on the A-list, sometimes you have to over-pay or work really hard to become appealing. That means, at the minimum, offering travel subsidies, even to the Big West. It might mean other sacrifices, too.

    The reality is only one conference wants UH — the WAC.

  190. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:14 pm

    All of this goes back to money. The students, when asked, didn’t want to pay the activity fee. Think they want to pony up more money?

    So where’s the travel subsidy money going to come from? The Legislature? Hmm. Not when furloughs still are in place.

    ESPN? They’re still trying to hammer out a deal with Time Warner.

    Silky Voice has a point about too many money games. If UH gets clobbered too often, who’s going to watch those games?

  191. Slugger August 26, 2010 2:15 pm

    Happy birthday to Siaki Cravens!!!

  192. haka August 26, 2010 2:17 pm

    i’ll watch! 🙂

  193. Jeff August 26, 2010 2:17 pm


    So the question is can DI football survive in Hawaii? What will the economic impact be to the state without football?

  194. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:17 pm


    Waipio 5-0

  195. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:17 pm


  196. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:18 pm

    Make that 5-1

  197. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:19 pm

    OK… no mo sco

    only 😆

    or 🙁

    from now on

  198. WarriorBasketball August 26, 2010 2:20 pm

    Thanks for the scoring updates….

  199. SteveM August 26, 2010 2:21 pm


  200. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:22 pm


  201. SteveM August 26, 2010 2:23 pm

    Liz — how about putting the number of smileys for each Waipio run and the number of frowns of the opponent on the next line.? 🙄

  202. Everyone’s gonna have to pay. Starts with the students. Why? Because there always will be students at UH Manoa and they will be subject to fees set forth and approved by the BOR.

    Then UH will have to carry their weight of the workload to work with corporate sponsors, old or new, to assist with travel expenses like Hawaiian Airlines (especially IF we are courting the California-based Big West Conference for our other non-football sports). Perhaps waiving six-figure donations in lieu of travel discounts for visiting teams. Then you figure the hotels like the Outrigger for rooms.

    Then the fans pay. I see an increase in individual tickets as well as premiums for season tickets.

    Everyone pays.

  203. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:23 pm


  204. A-House August 26, 2010 2:23 pm


    Believe only the city & county of honolulu still has furloughs.

    State reached an agreement with all to stop furlough days for 2010 school year.

  205. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:25 pm


    It’s one of those deals where you won’t miss it until it’s gone.

    It’s not so much the economic impact — there will always be some level of football here, such as high schools — but Division I football just makes everyone feel better. And it does give Hawaii some status. All of those magazines that proclaim a school to be good in this or good in that, well, the easiest rating to understand is I-A. (And, yes, it’s not called I-A, anymore, but there are a lot of official names that are ignored in favor of nicknames.)

  206. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:26 pm

    GA is changing picherz

  207. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 2:27 pm

    Thanks, A-House.

    No wonder I was told I couldn’t renew my car registration tomorrow.

    But, yeah, try to get the Legislature to subsidize travel for other teams.

  208. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:27 pm

    If BY-Who alum Vai Sikahema has a say, they would be outta the MWC but you really gotta love his forthright viewpoint overall.

    What of the other sports? Does it matter? They exist because of football. Do you care if BYU tennis plays Hawaii and SMU or SDSU and Wyoming? In fact, basketball may have an easier road to the tournament, which is all that matters, via the WAC than the MWC.

    BYU-TV can take Cougar Football to Polynesia where kids in Nuku’alofa and Pago Pago walk around in throwback royal blue jerseys with the names Heimuli, Sikahema, Tuipulotu, Mili, Atuaia and Salanoa stitched on the back.

  209. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:28 pm

    🙁 dbl play

  210. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:29 pm

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂


  211. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:31 pm


  212. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:32 pm

    😀 😀

  213. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:34 pm

    😀 😀 😀

  214. haka August 26, 2010 2:34 pm

    I love smiley faces!

    Mahalo Liz & d1

  215. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:35 pm


    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂


  216. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:36 pm


    It’s all just drivel….


  217. Jeff August 26, 2010 2:37 pm

    I guess when comes down to it, do the people of Hawaii really WANT D1 football, and if they want it are they willing to pay for it? If put to vote I have a bad feeling that it wouldnt’ turn out the way most on the blog want it to.

    But there are more pressing concerns for the state right now. Furloughs ended for the DOE, but continue for other state and county workers until June 2011. Money to pay for the end of furloughs will (and should) have a higher priority than anthing spent on capital improvements or travel subsidies etc.

  218. Student athletes are student athletes.

    From Colt Brennan to Annett Wichmann and all in between. From Al Noga to Brooke Wilkins, they are all equal in my eyes.

    I don’t give a rat’s “you know what” what anyone says.

    All Warriors and Rainbow Wahine deserve a chance to represent Hawaii.


  219. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:40 pm

    Wow, the guy’s doing really good in South Bend but this headline really grabbed my attention…

    “Manti wants to sell street block to LDS Church”

  220. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:41 pm

    ESPN is giving Wai pa hoo stats… amazing…

  221. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:41 pm


  222. I am sure there are BYU tennis players that don’t give a rip about Mr. Sikahema either.

  223. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:43 pm

    LOADED, baybee!

  224. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:44 pm

    GA was saving their best arm for the next game…

    Now they have to change peechas again!

  225. haka August 26, 2010 2:45 pm


    what inning is it? tanks!

  226. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:46 pm


    ….not to mention how Jose Canseco feels (or doesn’t feel)! 😆

  227. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:46 pm

    top of the 6th

  228. haka August 26, 2010 2:46 pm


    It’s all in the inflection! Ha!

  229. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:46 pm


    Top 6th

  230. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:47 pm

    😆 yeah!

  231. haka August 26, 2010 2:47 pm


  232. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:47 pm

    2 outs

  233. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:49 pm

    🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂



  234. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:49 pm

    😆 x7


  235. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:49 pm

    hahaha d1

  236. Slugger August 26, 2010 2:51 pm


    No worry about Al. He’s watching the game at Tiffany’s with whitey.

    GO WAIPIO!!!

  237. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:52 pm



  238. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:54 pm

    uhoh Shackles is tired…

  239. Slugger August 26, 2010 2:54 pm

    ESPN crawl keeps reporting that BYU will probably not leave the MWC.

  240. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:55 pm



    Making errors.

  241. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:56 pm

    main ting, cool head.

  242. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:57 pm


  243. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:57 pm

    Need another out…

  244. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:57 pm


  245. Slugger August 26, 2010 2:58 pm

    Oops… not whitey, but duffer…


    August 26th, 2010 at 10:29 am

    good to see you pboy. hope you can make a game this year.

    off to meet duffer to watch the waipio team at tiffany’s.

  246. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:58 pm

    WAI-Pi-OH – can hear the crowd!

    3 outfielders crash after a fly ball and 2 are down.

    GA scores

  247. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 2:59 pm

    oh poop.

    AL- NO LOOK!

  248. d1島 August 26, 2010 2:59 pm


    Can whitey be far behind? 😉

  249. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:00 pm


  250. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:01 pm

    Last batter for Noah Shackles (pitch count)

    2 away…

    Sac fly…run in

    …cool head.

  251. Slugger August 26, 2010 3:01 pm

    These Waipio kids need to calm down…

  252. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:01 pm

    2 outs. New pitcher for Waipio.

  253. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:02 pm

    good ting I get one Granola bar handy!


  254. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:03 pm

    any base is an out

  255. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:03 pm

    I gonna make kope

  256. 😯












  257. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:06 pm

    2 strikes….

  258. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:07 pm

    gap is closing

  259. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:07 pm


  260. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:08 pm

    presha mounts

  261. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:08 pm


  262. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:08 pm


    My DVR was set ’til 3pm.

    3-2 count…

  263. Slugger August 26, 2010 3:08 pm


    No worries, beef curry…

    From al this morning: “off to meet duffer to watch the waipio team at tiffany’s.”

    Come on, WAIPIO! One more out…

  264. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:09 pm


    7-4 😆

  265. Slugger August 26, 2010 3:09 pm

    WheeHa!!! Friday at 8 am HST

  266. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:09 pm


  267. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:10 pm


  268. haka August 26, 2010 3:10 pm

    Wai Peeee Ooooooooooo!

  269. LizKauai (iChrome) August 26, 2010 3:10 pm



  270. jm2375 August 26, 2010 3:12 pm

    Congrats Waipio!!

    HANA HOU!!

  271. gigi-hawaii August 26, 2010 3:13 pm

    so Waipio faces Texas next?

  272. greenthumb August 26, 2010 3:13 pm

    I was doing some “research” and saw a mention in an article from a week ago (sporting news) about Montana being attractive to the WAC if it can get an exemption from the NCAA to join division 1 either at its current status of 14 teams or maybe a promise to increase # of teams in a specified time period. There was also a comment that the WAC might need to take Montana State as well. Was that a hiccup or is this being pursued?


  273. jm2375 August 26, 2010 3:14 pm

    gigi – nope. they gotta play GA again tomorrow – double elimination.

  274. greenthumb August 26, 2010 3:16 pm

    Kazz, thank you for the framing suggestion and for the animated smileys. Glad to know how to make them here and will try not to overdo. 👿

  275. RedZone August 26, 2010 3:17 pm

    wow what a way to end a game. excitement to the last out. whew.

  276. NCAA August 26, 2010 3:18 pm

    I believe only the schools do not have furloughs.

    Other State workers are still on a furlough schedule. Either that or my girlfriend is fooling around 2 Fridays a month.

    Go Waipio!

  277. NCAA August 26, 2010 3:23 pm

    I also believe GA will be throwing their ace tomorrow.

  278. greenthumb,

    I believe the most recent publically released comments regarding Montana and a possible package deal with Montana State remains as you found it and it’s not new news either.

    The same was written within a week of BSU’s announced departure of the WAC.

  279. Waipio faces Texas?

    Will Texas back out citing travel expenses and travel time? 🙄

  280. chawan_cut August 26, 2010 3:25 pm





  281. chawan_cut August 26, 2010 3:26 pm

    what do those numbers represent?

  282. Chawan,

    I give up. What do they rep?

  283. Pomai August 26, 2010 3:37 pm

    ****OFF TOPIC*****

    All of you who donated online to the Na Wahine Bracelet fund, please please email me at pomai@tsai-kos.com. I had all of your email address but when my computer crashed all was lost. We have some important information to get to you.

  284. haka August 26, 2010 3:37 pm





  285. haka August 26, 2010 3:38 pm


  286. Bulla August 26, 2010 3:39 pm

    til UH defeats USC….

    now that is getting handle on your time chawan…..

  287. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 3:49 pm

    Thanks everyone for the LL updates.

  288. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 3:49 pm

    Getting ready for the Aloha Stadium practice.

    Sure there’s no tailgate?

  289. d1島 August 26, 2010 3:55 pm

    How’s traffic?

  290. madeinhawaii August 26, 2010 3:57 pm


    hmm.. must be…

    7 times you asked

    1 girl out

    28 days she ignored you

    and on the

    30th day she said no?


    7 times you had sex with

    1 girl

    28 days later she told you she still didn’t have her period..

    on the

    30th day, you found out why?

  291. wafan August 26, 2010 3:57 pm

    From where does the term tailgate originate? Is it from stationwagons and trucks? Else would it be more correct to call the gatherings bumpergates? Heck, as several Tsai-kos have seen and experienced for some it should be RVgates.

    Sorry, just mindless driveling as a result of the humidity and heat.

  292. madeinhawaii August 26, 2010 3:57 pm

    sumptin like dat.. ?

  293. wafan August 26, 2010 4:01 pm

    Will the UH will leave Manoa at 10am to arrive at the stadium in time for pre-game warmups? Let USC know traffic will be minimal for their 10-minute drive.

  294. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 4:13 pm


    No AC?

  295. gigi-hawaii August 26, 2010 4:17 pm

    i have my AC on full blast. Smell of brown rice cooking fills the air. My 6 mo old grandson is still napping. Waiting for my daughter to arrive.

  296. wafan August 26, 2010 4:22 pm

    DPK . . .

    A/C only when the wind blows. And a while ago it was not. Well, according to the kids, it would be correct to say that the wind blows.

  297. Da Punchbowl Kid August 26, 2010 4:29 pm

    In other news:


    Hole in one for Michelle as she leads.

  298. cocobean August 26, 2010 4:34 pm

    Re: Travel subsidies

    Repeating something I said before. UH should take the Pro Bowl approach. Pro Bowl brings in xx,000 fans for the game that spend $xx,000,000 that produces $x,000,000 in tax revenues. Therefore it’s in the State’s interest to pay the NFL $3-4 million for that game.

    UH should say visiting teams (all sports football to water polo) bring in xx,000 fans, family and friends to see them play. They spend $xx,000,000.00 and produce xamount of tax revenue. There fore the State should help with travel subsidies beacuse of the economic benefits visiting teams produce. JD should always talk up the economic value of visiting teams. He should calculate the economic value just the USC game is producing and make it known just how UH is beneficial to the State’s economy.

  299. CoolEthan August 26, 2010 4:40 pm

    I believe that Da Bronks, Bulldogs, and the wolfpack did us a favor.

    Allowing Hawaii to move on to the promised land.

    The WAC is dead. Let it be and bury it 6 ft. under.

  300. madeinhawaii:

    August 26th, 2010 at 3:57 pm


    hmm.. must be…

    7 times you asked

    1 girl out

    28 days she ignored you

    and on the

    30th day she said no?


    7 times you had sex with

    1 girl

    28 days later she told you she still didn’t have her period..

    on the

    30th day, you found out why?


  301. CoolEthan,

    I don’t think we’ll be sharing that beer and poke anytime soon. 🙁

  302. Slugger August 26, 2010 4:47 pm


    Picnicing off the tailgate of your truck…you still here? or are you back in a classroom without AC?

  303. wafan August 26, 2010 4:51 pm

    Slugger . . .

    Still here. At school the HVAC works. There were a few days when I used to go in during the hottest days just to cool off and get some additional work done. Well, at least I used to be able to turn it on before the fuel and prices went out of sight. HA!

  304. FRESH AKULE!!!

  305. NYUH August 26, 2010 6:06 pm


    I’m not a fan of a playoff, but to have it in Hawaii would be nice.

    As loser of a conference championship game, Florida would be ineligible for a playoff; instead, they would receive an invite to a non-playoff BCS “Best of the Rest” bowl game along with Iowa… to be held at a suitably tropical location, perhaps Hawaii (as a stand-alone bowl game, no worries about making multiple trips).

  306. HawaiiMongoose August 26, 2010 6:16 pm

    Re #299, the WAC isn’t dead if the remaining members choose to rebuild it. In fact, UH may have no other choice if both the WCC and Big West refuse to admit Hawaii as a non-football member. Going independent in football is one thing but it would be financially suicidal for the entire program to go independent.

    If circumstances play out such that a commitment emerges to rebuild the WAC, it will have to be done with FCS (formerly 1-AA) football schools. At least eight have indicated some interest in moving up to the FBS (1-A) level. They are:


    UC Davis

    Cal Poly

    Sacramento State

    Portland State

    Texas State

    UT San Antonio


    The single advantage the WAC has in convincing most or all of these schools to seriously consider joining is that none of them has any realistic alternative to the WAC if they really want to advance to the FBS level any time soon, if ever. NCAA rules taking effect next year require an FCS team to be invited by an FBS conference in order to advance. And, regardless of what conference realignment brings, no FBS conference other than the WAC is likely to be seeking to add FCS schools in the foreseeable future.

    To bring the WAC back to life it would be best to add four of the eight schools above. This would ensure the conference’s continued survival and stability even if LaTech were taken by CUSA and/or Utah State were taken by the MWC.

    Moreover, rather than stretching out the invitation process over an extended period, it would make sense to do it all at once, to create a “competition” of sorts that would give all eight schools maximum motivation to apply. It would also give them the confidence of knowing that if they make the leap to apply and are one of the four schools accepted, they will be part of a WAC that’s once again large enough to serve as a reasonably stable home.

    To start the competition, the WAC should invite all eight candidates to present their long-term plans for facilities improvements, program expansion, financing, etc. Give them a few months to prepare their presentations so they can do a quality job. Make it clear that they don’t have to be FBS-ready by 2011 or 2012 to be selected; there can be a transition period to as late as 2013 or 2014 for schools requiring expanded stadiums or needing to add multiple sports. (To get through the transition period, the WAC might have to seek a temporary waiver from the NCAA minimum of 8 FBS schools to make up an FBS conference, but I think the NCAA would grant such a waiver given the circumstances of the past week.)

    When all is said and done, this process should yield a reborn WAC that doesn’t look too different from the one we had a year ago: it would stretch from Honolulu to Louisiana, with most members in the west and two or three “bridge” schools in New Mexico and Texas. It would take several years for the new members to become competitive, but at least a couple might emerge as FBS powers in 5-10 years if given the opportunity.

    Living through yet another round of WAC rebuilding is NOT what most of us want to see, but it may end up being UH’s only option to preserve its athletic program.

  307. Kazz on DROID X August 26, 2010 6:34 pm


    What do you personally feel are the chances the Big West turns down UH’s request to join as a full member sans football, water polo, and men’s volleyball?

  308. Argentina Erner August 26, 2010 6:48 pm

    Good Blog This may be of some use for you. Few things after reading this I must say for safe and even christian valued dating and advice http://www.linegod.com is a good place to start.

  309. greenthumb August 26, 2010 6:49 pm

    #306, HawaiiMongoose, the idea of competitive applications for one of a specified number of spots in an “incoming class” makes lots of sense for the current WAC members for all the reasons you name. College administrators already are familiar with this in terms of their student bodies, so it should be very achievable for a dynamic conference administrator to spell out the whats, the whys and the hows.

  310. Last Call August 26, 2010 6:54 pm

    No one wants to be in a conference with


    UC Davis

    Cal Poly

    Sacramento State

    Portland State

    Texas State

    UT San Antonio


    It’s time to leave the WAC.Our best option is to go independent.

  311. madeinhawaii August 26, 2010 7:13 pm

    Problem with Montana is that they have a very limited TV audience. Cal schools make sense in terms of building an attractive sellable TV market base, Texas as well. TV market share is critical in rebuilding as that is where the network $upport will come from.

  312. HawaiiMongoose August 26, 2010 7:15 pm

    Re #307, I really don’t have a feel for our chances Kazz, but I know we’re fooling ourselves to think if we just knock on the door they’ll let us in. Even if we offer travel subsidies, and even though our presence would raise the Big West’s profile in sports like volleyball and softball, they might just not want to have to commit all of their athletes to flying five hours and three time zones every season to play a single match or game. I hope we can convince them otherwise.

    Re #310, that may be fine for football Last Call, but what about the other sports? The premise of my post was that we get turned down by the WCC and Big West and basically have no choice but to rebuild the WAC.

  313. Last Call August 26, 2010 7:20 pm

    But the Big West wants us.

  314. Last Call August 26, 2010 7:21 pm

    Good Read

    Documents and e-mail correspondence between the parties, obtained by The Tribune from USU through an open records request, show how close the plan came to being finalized;


  315. RainbowCliff August 26, 2010 7:22 pm

    News from USC: Freshmen Robert Woods will probably start at two positions when USC opens it’s season next week at Hawaii. Woods will return kick offs and is on track to start at receiver opposite senior Ronald Johnson.

    Coaches told Woods along with CJ Gable that both players would return kicks as Woods stated ” If I get one I’m going to try to go to the house” !

    Jr. Tailback Marc Tyler #26 the son of ex nfl pro Wendel Tyler continues to get the majority of reps and barring injury, will almost certainly start at tailback against Hawaii. Senior Allen Bradford recovering from injuries looked good on long runs as the Trojans will be deep at running back with ALL backs able to catch, run and block extremely well.

    Malcom Smith, Michael Morgan, Devon Kennard and Chris Galippo are expected to play the majority of snaps at Linebacker. USC defensive line men are HUGHE, athletic and very fast

    as the Warriors offensive line must maintain their leverage and not get blown off the ball as this USC D-line is skilled and excellent tacklers who will give Moniz a difficult time in the backfield if offensive line protection breaks down.

    Trojans had a mock game today at the Coliseum that was closed to the public.

  316. HawaiiMongoose August 26, 2010 7:27 pm

    Re #313, how do you know? I’m not challenging you, it’s just that I haven’t seen any concrete indications of which way the Big West is leaning. Do you have a link or source? This would be exciting news if true…

  317. roysan16 August 26, 2010 7:28 pm

    This is my last post.

    And as a motivation in weening myself off the WB blog if every appear again (in any shape or form, alias names included) I pledge to donate $1000.00 to Na Koa.

    This blog has been intoxicating for me, and it shouldn’t have been. It’s was my own fault.

    You good folks can breath easy now. I’m out.

  318. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 26, 2010 7:56 pm

    Well, today has been SUPER-special.

    Good news first: Got a $100 donation towards the purchase of 1,000 trees to plant all across the island of O`ahu on Sunday, October 10, 21010, between the hours of 1 pm & 4 pm.

    Good news #2: Since we started generating publicity about the PLANT (PLant A Native Tree) Campaign, we’ve received over a dozen requests to make presentations at various community, Neighborhood Board, and service club meetings.

    More good news: Made a number of interesting contacts at today’s GREEN MARKET including one of ESPN 1420’s ad salesmen. We spent ten minutes talking about intercollegiate sports rather than about Green Stuff.

    Evem more good news: More than two dozen members of a local church have stepped forward to volunteer to form 12 two-person teams + two luna. Only 238 teams left to go and approximately two dozen luna.

    Great news: Our second fundraiser to purchase the trees will be held at the Pali Lanes in downtown Kailua in their special events room on Sunday, September 19, from 4 to 6 pm. Art Machado, the owner, is also donating coupons for free games to all who attend. More information to come.

    Not so good news: My e-mail program has gone belly up. Don’t know what to do about it. Can receive the e-mail on my iPhone, but I still haven’t begun to master writing e-mails, let alone sending them.

    Pretty bad news: The grant application to underwrite 50% of the PLANT Campaign has been turned down. Now I have to raise $22,000 instead of $11,000. Not sure that I can do it in six short weeks.

    Really sucky news: While at today’s GREEN MARKET, our car – which was parked on Nu`uanu across from Foster Botanical Garden – was stolen sometime between 8:30 am & 1:45 pm. Not only does this put us in a bind from a work perspective, it will impact our ability to go to football games and on-campus nighttime sporting events because of the limited bus service to Kailua after 9 pm. It will probably take us about six months to save up enough money to buy another beater.

    Oh, well, it could have been a car-jacking.

    Lots of interesting things going on at the Capitol over the past couple of days; keep your earballs tuned.

  319. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 26, 2010 7:56 pm

    That’s 2010, not 21010

  320. d1島 August 26, 2010 7:58 pm


  321. d1島 August 26, 2010 8:01 pm

    That’s a lot of, and a wide variety of, news there WDoc….

    Very sorry to hear about the car theft.

  322. gigi-hawaii August 26, 2010 8:02 pm


    too bad about the car. Thank God, nobody wants MY car.

  323. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 8:05 pm

    Last Call,

    Yup. Any sort of “proof” would be comforting.

  324. Stretch August 26, 2010 8:06 pm

    WDoc – not sure exactly where it was parked but are you sure it wasn’t towed away?? If you filed a police report, hopefully they checked for you

  325. jm2375 August 26, 2010 8:07 pm

    WDoc – #318 – keep me apprised of the situation. If you can get to UH on weekdays, I could probably take you guys home if I’m going to the game. You have my contact info.

  326. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 8:16 pm


    Sorry to hear about your stolen car. I had my first car stolen right in front of the house.

  327. Ipu Man August 26, 2010 8:16 pm

    Let’s all be like Betty White…

    Take a deep breath…

    and eat a snickers bar.

  328. Hank August 26, 2010 8:21 pm

    Thought you guys would be interested…



    “It appears the MWC attempted to kill the WAC. It really goes well beyond any conference raid I have seen in that it appears to have been designed to ensure the remaining schools were isolated and were immensely crippled in their efforts to rebuild.”


  329. Stephen Tsai August 26, 2010 8:34 pm

    Good practice.

    Offense kicked butt.

    Referees were there, but it wasn’t a scrimmage.

    But Bryant Moniz was on fire.

    Aaron Brown, Laupepa Letuli and Alex Green are back. Full report tomorrow.

  330. Slugger August 26, 2010 8:41 pm

    Watching the GB-Indy game: Finley, GB receiver, catching balls using “the noose” & #89 just now. Now I just have to train my eye to see routes…that’s gonna be the hard part.


    The car I know that’s being sold is older (’85) than your car; not solidly reliable. Probably not one you want to buy. Your’s could have been stolen for parts. Bachi on the perp(s).

  331. Slugger August 26, 2010 8:43 pm

    ST ~ Good to hear that the boys are back on the field and lit up.

  332. birthday supplies August 26, 2010 8:45 pm

    Excellent blog! I actually love how it is easy on my eyes and also the facts are well written. I am wondering how I might be notified whenever a new post has been made. I have subscribed to your rss feed which must do the trick! Have a nice day!

  333. Hank August 26, 2010 8:47 pm

    …good to her that Aaron, Laupepa and Alex are back…;)

  334. Hank August 26, 2010 8:48 pm

    oops…her = hear…

  335. d1島 August 26, 2010 8:55 pm

    Aaron Brown, Laupepa Letuli and Alex Green are back.

    HeeYah! 😀

  336. mctruck August 26, 2010 9:05 pm


    Bachi on whoever(s) stole your car.

    Thank goodness, most insurance companies cover for rentals nowdays.

    It’s unnerving when things like this happens as it makes one wonder about safety issues as well.

    God bless you and be safe.

  337. Kazz blogging via DROID X August 26, 2010 9:08 pm

    Stephen Tsai: August 26th, 2010 at 8:34 pm Good practice Offense kicked butt Referees were there, but it wasn’t a scrimmage But Bryant Moniz was on fire Aaron Brown, Laupepa Letuli and Alex Green are back. Full report tomorrow.


    C.F. MY BRADDAH!!!

  338. Hank August 26, 2010 9:15 pm

    interesting from the LA Times today…



    “After USC finished its mock game at the Coliseum on Thursday, quarterback Matt Barkley said the Trojans had come a long way. Just how far was unclear. Again playing what amounted to touch football in an effort to avoid injuries, the first-team offense and defense did not overpower the scout team.”

    “The running game remains a mystery, and Coach Lane Kiffin won’t know if his defense can tackle until the Trojans play next Thursday at Hawaii.”

    “The passing game also is far from sharp.”

    “Barkley passed for three touchdowns, but he had two passes intercepted, one that walk-on linebacker Will Andrew returned 25 yards for a touchdown. It was the second consecutive scrimmage that a Barkley interception was returned for a touchdown.”

    “I would have expected it to be more lopsided than it was,” Kiffin said after watching the first team outscore the scout team, 30-7. “So it’s apparent, as we all know, that we have a lot of work to do.”

  339. protector August 26, 2010 9:42 pm

    Did anyone / everyone receive their season tickets? This makes it 5 straight years that (one week before the opening game) I still don’t have my ticket in-hand. It sucks!!

  340. Garret (traveling) August 26, 2010 10:08 pm


    Among the ways that I attempted to help UH was e-mailing JD on June 2 (I looked up the date in my sent mail folder) with my offer to help with research or in any other way that UH might need. I was just volunteering my effort and I would have been working for free of course.

    I never heard back, but it is possible that UH’s e-mail system never delivered my message to JD and others. I know when I was at Santa Clara I missed over 100 e-mail messages over the years, mainly due to hiccups in the system. Sometimes I got a message a few *months* after the sender sent it…things got so bad that my Department Chair switched to gmail for all work messages.

    Or it could be that the craziness in early June just kept UH too busy and they didn’t want the help from outsiders. It is quite possible that my help wasn’t needed because JD and others were on top of everything. Or that maybe non-disclosure agreements or confidentiality clauses would prevent a non-UH employee from giving input or doing research to help out.

    Anyway, things probably worked out for the best because I might have been more useful to others who were interested in the help–the Legislature, others in Hawaii and the mainland, some efforts that involved Tsaikos and others that involved people who have never even read this blog.

    All I know is that I never got a response to my e-mail and Texas sends someone to buy me a meal and talk with me face-to-face whenever they have some new initiative starting up. The contrast is clear and I’m not going to push my help on anyone.

  341. Garret (traveling) August 26, 2010 10:10 pm


    I am very, very sorry to hear about your car being stolen. I hope that your insurance will provide the help you need to get a replacement car and that your lack of transportation will not prevent you from getting to too many events until you get a replacement.

  342. Garret (traveling) August 26, 2010 10:12 pm

    La Tech’s AD talked again about how they are trying to join the C-USA.

    “It’s really kind of been that way all along,” he said. “It’s always been our intention to align ourselves with a conference that is a better geographic fit for us, but offers the same opportunities, power rankings, academic reputation, research — all the things that are important to the university.”

    Of course, for Tech to join Conference USA, the feeling has to be mutual. Conference USA not only has to want to add a new member — and it may need to if any current members jump ship — but also has to choose Tech from a pool of several candidates. Temple, Troy, North Texas, and Middle Tennessee State are among the schools that figure would be in the running.

  343. Garret (traveling) August 26, 2010 10:15 pm

    I referred to this issue a couple of days ago–the news came out when BSU’s invitation to the MWC would be delayed that they could decide to leave the WAC *after* July 1 and still join the MWC for the 2011 season. This article is interesting because *Karl Benson* specifically states that BSU could miss the July 1 deadline and still join the MWC in 2011. If Benson says that it would be okay for BSU to miss the deadline, I can see why Nevada and Fresno State would take the position that they can leave the WAC after this season.

    WAC commissioner Karl Benson on Monday opened the door for Boise State to leave the league for the 2011-12 school year even after a deadline this July 1.

    Boise State would forfeit its 2010-11 league revenue even if it gives notice by July 1. If the school gives notice after that date, Benson said, the WAC board of directors likely would allow the move with some additional penalty.

  344. Capitol -ist/WassupDoc August 26, 2010 10:41 pm

    Mahalo, everyone, for your good thoughts & comments. Slugger – thanx for checking on the car.

    Unfortunately, our stolen car is a 1988 Toyota Camry. Nothing worthwhile in it except my carry-around coffee mug and our clean but used workout gear. My shoes may have been worn a dozen times, but still…

    Anyhow, DrDoc checked with the HPD Chinatown sub-station – the car was definitely not towed away. It seems that Camrys – no matter what age – are very stealable.

    Anyhow, with a car that old, we just carried the minimum required no-fault insurance so we are definitely out of pocket.

    Guess we’re lucky that we didn’t spend $375 for a trailer hitch last week. We were going to do it next week when DD is on vacation.

    The officer taking the complaint says that stolen Toyotas are frequently driven until the gas tank is empty and then left somewhere on a street.

    DD says that if we aren’t called by HPD within the next couple of days, then we’ll have to look at other options.

    If you happen to know of someone who has a reliable car for sale or is an ethical used car dealer – I assume that this is not an oxymoron – please e-mail me at swood at hoku dot com. We really need a car given the complexities of our lives – work/school/community activities/gym workouts/UH sports – so using the bus exclusively is really not a long-term option.

    Finally got my e-mail program working again – it’s on its last legs so I have to use the password login every single time on five different accounts. El bummerlo. Since we were planning to get a new computer system in October – an Apple desktop + a Mac notebook – I was willing to put up with the e-mail humbug, but now I’ve got to look for a new software system instead because the hardware money will have to go for a new-2-us set of wheels.

    With respect to Friday & Saturday’s volleyball match, as long as we can get to Ala Moana Center by 10:30 pm, we can catch the last bus to Kailua.

    What’s the official latest on the conference realignments?

    Protector – yes, we got ours for both volleyball & football last Saturday. You might want to call the ticket office Friday to file a complaint.

  345. Slugger August 26, 2010 10:54 pm


    I received my season tickets toward the end of last week, I think. They were mailed 8/17.

  346. Mad Dog August 26, 2010 10:56 pm

    Protector: got my football season tickets last week.

  347. LizKauai (iPad) August 27, 2010 12:21 am

    WDoc. Sorry to hear about your car. Hope you get a reliable one soon!

    As for email, I suggest you get a free gmail account. You can check it online with any browser.

  348. LizKauai (iPad) August 27, 2010 12:23 am

    One of our Tsaikettes has just lost her husband to cancer. Please remember James Rodrigues in your prayers.

  349. Pride. August 27, 2010 12:28 am

    Condolences to the Rodrigues family.

  350. LizKauai (iPad) August 27, 2010 12:32 am

    From Oakland- qA with Hue Jackson:

    “Q: What is the No. 1 quality you look for in a quarterback?

    Jackson: His ability to lead men. I think it’s very important that the quarterback is able to take players and get those guys around him to follow him, to understand exactly what the message is that’s being sent, not just on the field but also off the field. And I think we’ve got four very capable guys, and they’re working at it each and every day, and I feel good about direction that we’re going in.”

  351. SteveM August 27, 2010 12:58 am

    LizKauai (iPad):

    August 27th, 2010 at 12:23 am

    One of our Tsaikettes has just lost her husband to cancer. Please remember James Rodrigues in your prayers.

    Condolences to blogger GMA Honey and family.

  352. Michigan Warrior August 27, 2010 3:47 am

    WDoc… so frustrating to hear about news like stolen cars… especially when it involves such giving, hard working members of our community! I hope you guys find it and won’t have to spend extra money on a replacement, or on repairs to that Camry.

    Yes, James & ‘ohana have been in our prayers throughout his courageous battle. His story, and that of his family and friends, is truly filled with inspiration. So much love and aloha shared with so many of us from hanabata dayz, despite all of their struggles. James was a fighter to the end, and now that his pain is gone, our thoughts and prayers continue to go out to his family. God bless you, Alz!

  353. Michigan Warrior August 27, 2010 3:52 am

    I like how USC’s coach is questioning his defense’s ability to tackle. We need to *try* to run through them and break tackles to make things happen. I hope we can pick off their QB’s a couple of times too. Would be good to win the turnover battle in every game this season. As for their return guy hoping to take it to the house… isn’t that the mentality of every returner? I sure as heck hope we’re thinking the same thing on punt and kickoff returns! Otherwise, we don’t have the right guys back there receiving those kicks.

  354. Wavy Hairstyles August 27, 2010 4:34 am

    Why is a boxing ring square?

  355. Bulla August 27, 2010 4:48 am




  356. Ipu Man August 27, 2010 7:24 am

    “…catch the last bus to Kailua”.

    Sounds like a song should be written with that title…

    Or a book and screenplay.

  357. loose weight fast August 27, 2010 5:40 pm

    Your header is a bit wonky in Chrome, mate.

  358. ugg austalia August 27, 2010 9:45 pm

    I agree with some of the other people about this news.

  359. […] The Warrior Beat| UH football, University of Hawaii athletics … […]

Comments are closed.