Clapp had collapsed lung
Slotback Justin Clapp reportedly underwent a procedure last night to repair a collapsed lung, which was the result of a fractured rib suffered in Saturday’s game against Utah State.
On his Facebook page, UH associate athletic director Carl Clapp wrote: “He is going to spend a short time in the hospital and it may be a few weeks before he will be able to play. No one wants to be with his teammates and coaches and contribute more than Justin. He will be stronger as a result of this temporary setback and back with everyone soon.”
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The Warriors were back on the field this morning. Of note:
• Quarterback Bryant Moniz was not at practice because of a variety of ailments. He will practice tomorrow, and start in Saturday’s game against Nevada.
• Darius Bright returned to the lineup. He was at left wideout, with Joe Avery as the No. 2.
• David Graves took reps at quarterback and left wideout.
• Brett Leonard is back … at left tackle. Matagisila Lefiti and Andrew Faaumu split reps at left guard.
• Kicker Kenton Chun said his left knee (tendinitis) is much improved, and he should make the trip.
Is Carl saying that Justin is going to play again this year?
Justin Clapp is a true WARRIOR!
Justin, speedy recovery and thanks for being a warrior!!!
get well soon Justin. u da man!
a true warrior this justin clapp is.
Godspeed.
so whitey…i dropped you some lines on the previous posts.
justin’s story is slowly evolving to the stuff that legends are made of.
#1 – Five more games. Last game at the end of December.
pride.,
what to you is the one glaring change you would make to our staff to effect a positive improvement in the future or immediately for that matter?
Best wishes for Justin
Wow! Get well and heal up, Justin! Healing prayers for you and the rest of the Warriors!
Justin Clapp: Hang in there; get well soon.
Actually, we did control the game. We dominated time of possession (36:37 to 23:23) and first downs (28 to 15). We ran 76 plays, while USU ran 56 plays.
healing prayers for Justin. You are a true Warrior!
I would take less road trips. Road trips make for tired legs.
1. Hawaii played well against Colorado. Scored points in all three quarters and won the game.
2. Hawaii got a slow start against Washington and after spotting them 21 points in the first quarter, outscored them 32 to 19 in the remaining three quarters.
3. Hawaii played against UNLV on the back end of a two game road trip and that was just too long on the road. Tired legs.
4. Hawaii came home and slept in their own beds for a couple of days before taking it to town against Davis.
5. Hawaii with rested legs and confidemce from the week before got a fast start agianst LaTech, and won that game.
6. Even though Hawaii had a bye week before playing San Jose, it still was another road game. Third trip, fourth away game. Tired legs.
7. Back home against a WAC opponent in NMSU. Home game, familiar beds, good win.
8. Fourth trip, fifth road game was to Idaho. Not easy to get to. Offense struggled, defense kept Warriors in the game. Good win.
9. Slow start, down 7 to 0 after the first quarter against Utah State. Long trip the week before, tired legs, now getting a weary mind. Outscored by Utah State 28 to 3 in the second half.
10. Sixth road game, fifth trip. Warriors under Coach Mack were 9 and 2 in the month of November before last week’s loss to USU. Odds are on Hawaii’s side that they will continue their November productivity and win this one against a hostile crowd. Nevada doesn’t lose at home??? Ainokea!
11, 12, 13. Fresno, Tulane, and BYU will be up against a bunch of well rested Warriors who have strong legs with etraordinary stamina and endurance. Four wins in the last four games. 14. Too much for SMU.
Season ending record 10 and 4.
Remember 11-12-2004 when Hawaii lost to Fresno State to give June’s Warriors a 4 and 5 record. They went on to beat Idaho, Northwestern, Michigan State, and Alabama-Birmingham in the Hawaii Bowl. Ended the season with an 8 and 5 record.
Pride ~
Re: #16
Did they do it with a rag tag group of survivors? I bet they had a healthier team. Look at the roster of wounded warriors. We gotta dig deeper is all i’m saying. Can do, no…WILL DO!
Morning, everyone!
Wow, some guys are up late!
Go, Warriors!
As Coach Tony said, “Believe and Be the Light!”
Justin Clapp is a true Warrior. I hope that his collapsed lung and fractured rib are healed up soon. It would be amazing to see him play again this season…but I hope he doesn’t rush back before his body is ready.
When the travel subsidies were announced, the Star-Advertiser explained that UH would be paying $150k for schools coming from the Pacific Time Zone and $175k for schools coming from the Mountain Time Zone. In Ferd’s article today, he says that the deal requires UH to pay $175k for any school not in California…that raises the travel subsidy cost for UH!
For example, in the terms previously announced, UH would pay $150k for Nevada, UNLV, and others…but now they would cost UH $175k. Did Vegas and Reno move since the deal was announced or did fine print in the contract cost UH some extra money?
UH was very, very lucky before that schools didn’t need to worry about money and could play road games at UH without asking UH to play at their stadiums. That was before Title IX changed the economics of college sports and before salaries went crazy.
Now the only way a school will not require a home-and-home deal is if you pay them–$300+k for a D-IAA school, $1 mil or more for a D-IA school. Because the Hawaii Exemption has been rendered almost worthless due to the increase in the number of games of the season and the conference title games taking away a bye week, it does NOT make sense for schools to play games at Aloha Stadium and give up a home game and the revenue it brings.
So, UH will play 6 road games at a minimum every year. A possible exception is when the season has 15 weeks (like in 2013), but UH owes road games to all the schools traveling to Hawaii in 2013…so, UH could have 7 road games some years if there are less than 5 road games in other years.
UH either needs needs to make a lot more money from home games (hello luxury boxes!) so that it can write $1+ mil checks, or it should get used to playing 6 or 7 road games every year.
Justin…Mahalo for what you do, and heal well young man…you are a Warrior.
Justin,
Prayers of healing to you, mahalo for your Warrior efforts. Good luck Warriors, you still control the destiny of your team, the path is in front of you. Seniors, step up, man up, get up and lead your team to victory. Don’t read the hype, you guys know deep down you are Warriors, come together as one and do what you know how to do….. WIN
Wow,
That’s a Warrior… JC, Get better but don’t rush yourself back on the field. There’s always next year…
ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
We are so buss’up, I hope the ones that play can make the team proud. Go Warriors!
Great Morning All!
Heal well Justin Clapp.
GO WARRIORS!
GO WILDCATS X 2!
Hope all the shifting around gets worked out by today.
“When the travel subsidies were announced, the Star-Advertiser explained that UH would be paying $150k for schools coming from the Pacific Time Zone and $175k for schools coming from the Mountain Time Zone. In Ferd’s article today, he says that the deal requires UH to pay $175k for any school not in California”
Yea, that confused me as well. Ferd might want to clarify.
Oh, morning folks!
Let me understand, we ran 76 plays to their (USU) 56 plays and were outscored in the process 28 to 3 in the second half, and the defense was not a part of the problem we lost?
Not trying to affix blame, but how does one explain how a third of the team concept in a game’s outcome is not a part of the overall equation?
Buffoman,
Ummmm.. You just said we had way more plays on offense to theirs.
We managed only 3 points.
Don’t you think offense was a problem in the 2nd half?
3 and out 3 and out 4 and out 4 and out… missed FG, Iosefa and Jackson run their okoles off and still 0 points to show from it.
We could have easily had two TDs in the second half, and ONE would have done wonders to quell their momentum, but NO….
As for the defense… if Mack says they werent prepared for a pocket passer … well, WHO’ S fault is that for lack of preparation???
Best wishes Justin.
Poly’s Mom just came out of the hospital and is on the way home!!
I haven’t received any responses to my question from yesterday….
Anyone know any other D1 or NFL Offensive Coordinators who call plays from the field and aren’t also the Head Coach?
Kevin,
I agree that the offense could not score, but completely giving a “hall pass” to another who could not keep 28 points from the board seems a bit unreasonable, doesn’t it? And to say, we prepared for one type of QB and not the other seems a bit risky and it proved so. Good leaders have several contingency plans. Do we have one if our #1 went down and the #2 was not as adept at “escape” as our #1? Or do we still line up the same way and do the same things when a piece is obviously not the same fit?
Just asking.
fyi – Broken ribs with collapsed lung can bring on pneumonia from all the fluid and mucous that is produced inside the lungs around the infected rib area.
Chinese cupping is an aid of moving the possible infection away from the break
Buffoman,
Hall pass? I didn’t read Mack’s press conference. Kinda don’t have the stomach for it.
It was reported that Miss coach Huston Nutt would resign at the end of the year.
Is it safe to assume that Miss had in Coach Nutt’s contract statements that essentially stated if we fire you, you get this, if you do was we say and resign you get this plus a little more?
AND, we do not have those lines in the contracts we’ve constructed here?
Or, is Coach Nutt a true professional and saw that his plan and overall coaching method would not work at this institute and did what an honorable professional would ideally do when in the same situation and would resign.
Kevin,
“Hall pass” in that to paraphrase the comment, it was not the defense that was the issue, it was that we could not keep scoring with their offense with the new QB. Something along those lines.
See.. These are the kinds of questions we shouldn’t HAVE to be asking at this stage of a coaching regime…
Tired of the BS already. Been tired since December 24, 2010.
I dunno why I feel the need to elaborate again, but the college landscape is changing faster than we can keep up.
Winning must happen sooner than later. Yeah we got into the MWC, but we need new blood to lead us to another plateau AFTER that as well.
Nothing and no non-AQ conference and their programs are safe.
The stakes have NEVER been higher and my personal tolerance has NEVER been lower as a result. We got a BIG scare in August of 2010. I feared for the MANY UH sports I support emotionally and financially on top of purchasing tickets.
Enough is enough. People that I have come to know over the last year and a half in various areas related to UH athletics are people I don’t want to see have to struggle or worry about employment because while they are busy doing their jobs, someone else is LACKING in theirs.
Other coaches that scrimp and get by with little to work with compared to others going about their business and handling it while others that mess up are inadvertantly dictating how much LESS the have-nots have to work with even more. How fair is that?
I make NO APOLOGIES for what I have said and WILL CONTINUE to say in the near future unless something changes. My concerns, unlike others, extend BEYOND the football field.
11/17 Lunch Report:
http://www.nakoa.org/2011/11/11711-lunch-report/
Utah State game photos:
http://www.nakoa.org/2011/11/110511-uh-vs-utah-state-photos/
Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂
Justin Clapp should be nick named “Iron Man”. Get well soon Justin.
Pride,
I love your analysisisis above. Thanks for keeping us in a positive outlook. Get Plenny more games and the Warriors need our support!
GO WARRIORS!!!
Kevin,
My apologies to have been a source of aggrivation. It was not intended. My question(s) were just to probe for comments to things that did not, on the surface appear to make sense. And like others, I do not coach and am probably misinformed.
As fans and taxpayers we are grateful that there is a forum like this to ask questions and post comments.
Get better justin. Don’t rush back. Still have 2 years left. U r I think da best slot reciever we have.
Buffoman,
I’m agitated all the time. No worries. Been constantly on edge since August 2010.
Besides, I think people apologize too much on here. 😆
Goin2Play,
#33,
Charlie Weis @ Florida.
Again,
Jim Donovan will be chatting at SportsHawaii at 11am for those interested. I will stray away from the heavy topic of the week as there will more than enough people sharing their opinions on the matter with the AD.
Good morning, gang!
Get well soon, Justin!
Prayers for PolyMom’s Mom, too.
Kevin #45 –
Sorry you feel that way.
OOPS! Sorry! You said not to be sorry, so I apologize for that. 😆
Buffoman,
You good brah! You should see Kevin when he’s really mad!
mike martz was on the sidelines. clemson’s oc was on the sidelines. Pete Carmichael was on the sidelines.
according to reseach done by the Ravens public relations department, only 5 of 32 offensive coordinators made calls from the box in 2010.
Get Well Justin Clapp.
i think viginia tech oc is on the sidelines.
i think the 49r’s oc is on the sideline.
byu’s oc is on the sideline.
I’m sorry we have “fair weather” fans! We’ve had some tough losses, but we shouldn’t throw our team under the Bus. If you really want to change things, how about showing up for the football games & putting your $$$ where your mouth is…
I’m looking forward to freezing my buns off in Reno & I’ll be there backing our team!!
not sure now but georgia’s oc was on the sideline.
Get well wiki-wiki Justin Clapp. You remind me
so much of Salas…and you are just getting started.
Go young man, go!
Will Vili The Warrior be roaming the sidelines at Reno?
Brrrrrrrrr….
in other words get plenty oc’s on the sideline. now i’m tired of looking at all those youtube vids for oc’s.
Reading comprehension……..
Ipu Man,
Speaking of… Vili was also NOT present this past weekend on the sidelines….
For those attending the Reno game on Saturday, weather forecast is 34 degrees at game time and snow – not snow flurries, but SNOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The thing that bothered me most about the USU game was the number of hits to the head that our guys were taking. Not a single one was called too. On the play that Clapp got injured he got hit so hard in the head that his helmet popped right off. The coaches should make a formal complaint to the league because the officials were not protecting our players the way that they are supposed to. A broken arm, or any injury, is bad news but concussions can affect these guys for the rest of their lives.
Good morning Tsaikos!
Best wishes to all the ailing Warriors! Listen to the doctors and don’t try to come back earlier than recommended! Use the time to catch up on your school work.
GO WARRIORS!
GO WAHINE!
early signing period tomorrow. anyone signing from the other sports?
Expat,
Iosefa got BLASTED in the head too after one of his long runs. Not to mention the times we got CHEAP SHOTTED out of bounds…
if you feel a slight whoosh today don’t worry it’s just an asteroid flyby.
Couch Potato,
Expect 5 for softball, maybe four, shouldn’t be less.
Two of which will be pitchers with one of them possibly another 1st base candidate. The rest are infielders.
#33 I also thought I saw USU’s OC Dave Baldwin on the sideline calling plays Saturday.
thanks Kevin. Wahine vb get one. guess i’ll read on thursday who’s in.
Last post about USU game:
fake punt – Midori was quick to point out that #41, the kicker, was not in the game and it would be a fake; 2nd time, she did the same, including myself, and the same result – UH was caught flat footed and USU got a 1st down with plenty of yards to spare.
??? is why did not UH coaches, any one of them, see the same thing and warn the players? not once, but TWICE!!!! that is totally unforgiveable!!!!!!!!!
but, then to my last point which refers to Coach Mack’s comment about the USU’s next QB where they were scrambling to find info on him at Aloha Stadium – too late!!! – this type of information or intelligence, for military types, should be gotten while preparing for the opponent (like Sunday, 10/30/11) – this is a prime example of how the coaches are not truly prepared for any opponent – hate to say this, but true. Others have mentioned game and time management.
if I had a G2, Intelligence chief, who did that to me, he/she would be fired on the spot – unlike football, a mistake like this cost unnecessary losses to men and materiel. But wo on me if I did not insure that we knew all the information about the enemy – especially, the lead officers at every level to 3 units below – however, it should be noted that many other militaries have a very shaky chain of command which does not help their succession of command and control.
if I were to bet for 11/12/11, a safe one would be take Reno and give the 13 points – UH never does well on ESPN, it will be in the low to mid-30s at game time, and snowing!!!
Best wishes to Justin Clapp for a complete recovery!
I’m going to have to disagree with UH getting caught flat footed on the second fake punt. It looked to me like UH was playing the fake. A tipped pass and lucky catch is not being caught flat footed. Utah State was getting the lucky bounce all night. Sometimes things like that happen.
punt fakes were covered but the first one the faker made a good run. second fake was lucky. Warriors had it covered, even tipped the ball. game pau, no fret.
cheaters should be fired too.
Justin: Get well and speedy recovery. I enjoyed your games.
Anybody else see he space shuttle yesterday at about 6:50 pm. It was very bright in the southern sky. It moved very fast and was visible for about 30 seconds in an area that didn’t have cloud voer.
#63 and #66
Yeah, I didn’t want to bring this up, but I totally agree with these posts. Utah State has some dirty players. That CB #1 is definitely one of them.
Re OC on the sidelines
Not sure where he is now, but Marc Trestman was OC for the Raiders and another NFL team and he was on the sidelines.
Keiki Carlos, Loie Kesterson – pitchers
Alyssa Villalpando, Cheyanne Garcia, and Kristina Akiona – infield
All took their visits a few months ago.
Good morning people!
Glad to hear Poly’s Mom is out of the hospital.
A-House: point well taken – be prepared.
Good morning everyone!
Best wishes and “Get Well Soon” to Justin Clapp!
Hard to believe the “wasn’t prepared for Kennedy…we got our information from Higgins” statement.
I mean I know it’s true and Mack said it but still, it’s so hard to believe.
Speaking of thrown under the bus…
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defense is defense, rush the passer, tackle the runner, cover the receivers. some statements shouldn’t be said in public. makes it sound like an excuse.
anyway, game pau, i know, stock up for saturday’s pupu.
Kevin, now i gotta go google those names. 😆
Justin Clapp..a speedy recovery to you!..a Warrior fan…go Warriors!
Haleakala – That was the International Space Station, no more the shuttle already.
WAIT!! Mack said he doesn’t give excuses for the loss. This must be some kind of misunderstanding, it can’t be that he wasn’t prepared.
JUSTIN – you are a true Warrior! Get well soon.
Aaron Rzadczynski just relocated Stamford and moving to Reno. Currently vacationing in Pomona
The Hartung license plate auction ends; priciest sale tops $200k
Couch Potato,
Carlos would be one most familiar to us. For those that watched her take MPI to the state title against current Rainbow Wahine Leisha Liilii and Castle everyone saw that she was one the best local players around and she was honored with Gatorade’s High School Player of the Year Award for the state of Hawaii.
You can find a lot of local articles on her and some YouTube interviews that talks about her background in hula, softball, and her family.
The rest are California products and easiest way to Google their stats and whatnot is to type in their name followed by “Hawaii Softball” or just “Softball”.
Kevin, from the info off the internet, Kristina Akiona is a good one from the continent.
Couch Potato,
I am quietly excited about 2013 already though. There are two very capable and what appears to be very skilled individuals that have verballed to Coach Coolen already.
One from a PROMINENT travel club in California that has produced top notch D1 softball players across the PAC 12 and a few in the SEC I believe. The other’s stats also displays great potential and her brother is joing Coach Trapasso and the Bows this season I believe.
2013 won’t exist. 😆
i bet there is one individual with multiple personalities and gender out there just itching to comment about Na Wahine softball.
Back to football.
Aaron Rzadczynski…
Aaron Rzadczynski Lake Park Mesquite located near Mesquite. Primary home is in Dallas …
Patriots cut Haynesworth! Wow! What happened to that guy? What happened to the beast from the Titans?
Kevin,
2012…remember? Katoooosh! I mean Kaboom.
Haynesworth ??? – he don’t give a rip – he’s a multi millionaire.
He’s got it made; he don’t have to work the rest of his life.
Unless he blows it all; which could easily happen.
Why isn’t Scott Harding being mentioned at all? I thought he was next on the depth chart at slot…
What time will the Nevada game be on here in Hawaii?
cool post , thanks for writing it
EWAGIRL,
5pm HST I believe.
Earlier in the year, I believe Harding was pegged to start. Not sure what became of it. He might have had a few snaps and that’s it.
WarriorNY
If he moves to slot, who takes up the slack as kick returner?
THANKS
alternate iosefa and jackson in the slot, tight end, and h-back positions and play smash mouth football in the snow. throw in some play actions and hit the tight end over the middle, tight end screens and slot crossing patterns.
coach couch plays of the day…back to dreaming.
slot and kick returner don’t play at the same time.
just like db and kick returner don’t play at the same time.
Harding just seems like he’d be able to pickup some YAC. Who was our kick returner last year? Wasn’t it Pilares or Salas? I seriously can’t remember…
Yeah but the last time we had a slot do double duty.. he got knocked out of the game on the first play and there went the game plan.
Both played kick returner… but Salas pretty much did the fair catch thing. Then in the Sheraton Bowl they gave the green light for Pilares to run with the ball and he got injured on the return.
dustin blount, ryan henry (punts)
you don’t hope for injuries and play with what you have.
Think 315 da game on. Didn’t daylight saving time changed? Idk…ya usu had alot of breaks. Juts one of them years. hopefully we get da breaks in fda last 4 games.
GO GET’M WARRIORS!!!!!!!!
Give’m hell in a place so cold!!!!!!
First, best to Justin, heal fast. You are a consumate receiver that does his job to the best, runs precise patterns, make the right reads and most of all catch everything you touch.
A-House, right on with the fake punt. Have posted twice on this and not much response. This is the 3rd & last. After the 1st fake I was watching the USU sideline on each punt. On the 2nd one saw #11 coming from the sideline; about 6 to 7 seconds before the punt; how come coach(s) responsible for opposing personnel did not call time out?
On the intel on backup USU QB, da buggah is 6 ‘5″ & about 240 pounds. He did not have Vick or Young speed, you could tell right off. With a QB that only had 5 passes to date, how come no pass rush to force the issue, make him uncomfortable? On Laurel’s sack I believe it was all him as only 4 down lineman rushed on that play.
With both placekickers injured and deemed unable to play just an hour before kickoff, Tennessee coach Derek Dooley had to call up his third team kicker who was asleep in his frat house. With the help of the police, he made it to the game and received the game ball.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/story/2011-11-08/tennessee-finds-emergency-kicker-in-unusual-place
Jim Donovan makes a statement on SportsHawaii:
http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=40762&start=15
Over the years, my impression is that Jim Donovan is a good man. He’s come a long way since the shouting match as Assistant AD with Riley Wallace back in 98. He’ll do what’s right and in a professional manner. If there is a problem, he’ll give you an opportunity to correct it or improve the situation. If you don’t, well……… Not an easy job, to say the least.
ok, so then, is there going to be a private forum to discuss potential coaching candidates?
Well stated by Donovan. During season, support the Warriors. No say stuffs dats goin bachi dem or discourage dem.
After the season is pau, let it fly if you must. But be loving and respectful of the players at all times. Dats how I see it.
Couch potato –
Get plenny. Try co to a CC with Tsaikos someday. Free speech is encouraged between mouthfuls of food.
“try go” that should read above.
Da Punchbowl Kid, i thought you were trying to talk samoan. 😆
Donovan goes to cc’s and makes free speech?
cp –
“Aole maopopo olelo Samoa. He Hawai’i o wau.”
Donovan doesnt go to any CCs that I’m aware of.
Amen DPK!! Those who take the opportunity to harshly criticize the program now are not Warrior fans. As a stated earlier, we don’t need fair weather fans in our islands, but true warriors. The team needs your support right NOW, not your negative comments. You’ll get your chance at the end of the season to evaluate & criticize if you must…
IMUA WARRIORS!
A lil something to fire up the Warrior fans for Satruday’s game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfTB11eCK6o&feature=youtu.be
ok, so you don’t speak samoan.
i was talking about a private forum with donovan to discuss non-public issues.
God Bless!
Healing and POSITIVE ENERGY to all our Warriors!
You think you got it tough?
Yesterday, 27 Waimea Menehune varsity football players played their hearts out til Kapaa scored an FG with 9 seconds left to win the KIF.
The stands were FILLED on both sides of the stadium- for a 3pm Monday game (nuke the birds…). After it was over… BOTH teams got standing O’s and nobody blamed anyone for the loss…
Some fans put love ahead of disappointment.
Good examples for all of us.
GO WARRIORS!
Back to slot nd kick return folks. There was a local boy who sported a Mighty Mouse tatoo who did fairly well as a kick and punt returner and did some time at slot. Tough as nails was he although he did cough it it on occasion, he was quite spectacular. Probably the best we’ve had in a long while.
Speculating on the JD pre-speech speech, I’d say Coach has to really turn things around in quite a big way. I’d speculate that getting to the Hawaii Bowl may not be enough if another Tulsa result is in the offing.
So, we may have to eat on recruiting season (as did JJ) but if there is a change at the end of the year, at least we have three years to watch something different unfold. If it remains the same, we’d know that the coach had a remarkable turn around, won the Hawaii Bowl and all is happy in Hawaii.
WOW – “nuke the birds”? where’s the love? peace? unity?
Refuse a paycheck? Don’t think that will happen. How dey going afford the plate lunches..lol. Dey gotta eat too!
cp –
JD had a talkstory session with the Tsaikos about a month or so back. What he said there, stayed there.
Can’t stand the attitude of Nevada’s coach. Hope we absolutely kick their tails on national TV this week.
Then all would be good and our blog host could go back to being his usual jovial self.
Then again, folks would ask why we didn’t do that all season long. The game of football is not always that simple…
Difference between Mack and a quality coach.
Mack: injury problems. Not once but twice has to address our injury problems to our fans on our starting o line in the la tech game versus the Utah st game… Do we really need to hear it? We are watching the same game..
Next. We were prepared for a option type qb who was good at short passes. When he hot hurt this Jc guy wr know nothing about cam throw the ball down field…
Quality coach: loses qb for the game. Rallies his team around.. Let’s keep fighting, next man up step up.. D comes out to shut out the offense. Rb makes huge run . Wrs makes huge catches.
So while Mack is looking at our injuries as a disadvantage, the other teams injury was a advantage to them as well.
In the end is our team hurting by injuries? Yes. Does Mack need to repeatedly state the obvious? No.
Is our banged up o line the reason we lost? Not even close. Moniz was protected well all game.
#135
Would have been great if the Wall Street Bankers who gambled and lost trillions of our dollars took the same attitude when bonus time came.
RIP
Good to meet you today and share views.
See you on the water fishing.
Let’s just beat Nevada.
Conclusion…
I wonder if Gary Anderson would be a possible coaching candidate. Good recruiter. Great passion. Prepares players well.
Huh? Moniz hasn’t been protected at all in any game this season, aside from the UC-Davis game.
If I said that and suggested my boss take a pay cut due to my shortcomings, then the dominos would fall on my…. OH!!! (I see what you’re saying)
I believe the injuries are responsible for our poor offensive performance. While we don’t want to hear any excuses it is a fact that injuries to the o-line and receivers are hampering the team. You aren’t going to win many poker games with a pair of deuces. The complaints should be focused on what are the coaches doing to compensate with the hand dealt to them. Do they insist on bluffing with a pair of deuces the whole night or do they change their tactics i.e. trick plays, more misdirection, slot reverses, fake punts, option etc. I don’t know what the answer is, but I just hope the coaches have a plan which is different from the one currently not working because of injuries.
Jim Donovan’s “Criteria for coaches”
“My expectations for these two coaches will be the same as all of the other head coaches: to recruit good student-athletes; to make sure the student-athletes do well in class and graduate; that they interact with the community often and develop a positive relationship with their sports’ fans; that they abide by NCAA, University and State rules; that they participate as a member of the “athletic department team” just as they expect their student-athletes to participate on “their team”; and that they win — and this expectation is defined by participating in post-season play (and as I’ve said in previous answers today, if they don’t have the resources to be competitive in their sport, then our job is to go and get them — but if they have the resources, they’re expected to win more often than not).”
per sportshawaii
A-House #71…. You da man… No sugar coat on that one..
DPK – sooooo, when will we be seeing your handsome face at one of the tailgates? 😆
145 did u not go to the game??? He was under barely any pressure… The short out to miah was open all game… I don’t recall any int that the defense caused due to pressure or any fumbles… Protection was the last reason we lost that game.
Utah State is a 3-5 team that should have started Adam Kennedy ahead of Chuckie Keeton. Don’t think that’s the model of success.
#150 –
When I have a handsome face to show at the T-gates. 😆
Actually, Sweety and I will be making at least one if not two of these last home games.
Utah st is also very young for the most part… Very close to being a good squad.
When Mack was hired, he said it will be the 4th season where his recruits will be in place. This is the 4th season and our finished product..
Next year is like starting all over again.
Lose moniz, pollard, Torres, parades, meatoga, tuipulotu, lefiti, laurel, satele, sapolu, tank, Leonard, faaumu, brown…
Taking steps backwards needs to end already. If we wait another year, it will only get worse.
So I’m transferring VHS taped pgms to DVD…2007 UH-Washington game. Down 21 in the 1st Qtr. Boy, what a game of errors in that 1st Qtr. But we won…
I believe. We can do it.
GO WARRIORS!!!
#152 . . . good point. That QB should have been the starter. Unless he is not usually that consistent and just happened to have a good game. I think a lot of coaches nowadays are turned on by the dual threat QB and maybe sacrifice other traits, like accuracy or whatever.
BW96744,
A-house very seldom uses “sugar”. 😉
Our offense requires the QB in most situations to get rid of the ball in under 2.5 seconds. Longer than that and the slots have finished their routes and many times end up standing around. In most cases if the primary receiver is the slot receiver the ball must be thrown in 2 seconds or less. After 2.5 seconds the slots and the QB are playing backyard football and are scrambling. Even the long passes must be thrown in about 2.5 seconds. Releasing the ball at 4 seconds would require a 70 yard pass from the point of release. Like Jezzy33 said the short routes are generally open all night. The problem comes when Moniz looks long first and then decides to throw short after the 2 seconds have elapsed.
Da Punchbowl Kid, not everything stayed there as some reported on the blog what was reported.
156. It was 1 game. Let’s see how he does the rest of the way before jockeying him like he’s a great qb..
Those 2 bombs he threw could easily have been picked off.. Those catches were also ridiculous. Not to mention we almost picked off that option run to the house .. On the final drive, tank had no business interfering with the wr on that one play
Looks like the hot seat under Andy Reid is starting to heat up even more.
When you got 80 year old grandmas in the stands shaking their heads in disgust…its bad.
couch,
what was reported was things that you could pull from media and stuff thats already public or things like “how is the Ching complex coming along”.
the juicy stuff wasn’t split. as far as i can remember.
Let’s face it. We are not a good football team. We are not a good coached football team. When you look at the schedule so far, most would say that we should have been 8-1 at this point and already bowl eligible, instead of being 5-4. In the last 3 games, we are out coached at UNLV, at San Jose St. and at home against Utah St. When it was 28-7 at halftime I think the coaches thought we had the game won. They forgot the old adage of beware of the “wounded” animal. They will fight til their death and do anything to have an edge and Utah St. did. They had nothing to lose so they went out there and just played easy and free. Then good things happened to them, and they got more confident as the game went along. Conversely, we started saying “oh my god, let’s not blow this…they’re coming back”. As fans, we could feel the momentum change to USU. When Utah St. had their last chance when they got the ball back, you pretty much knew that they were going to score. Something happened at halftime and whatever Coach Mack or the other coaches said, it did not sink into the players mind because they came out flat. To me, that’s a part of coaching.
iwonderwhytheyhateme, he did say what was said there stayed there. i’m just saying not everything stayed there.
#58. Good comment about the short passes.
“The short pass is almost as good as a run. It’s definitely the same, in terms of a play-calling mindset, of what you’re trying to accomplish. When you call plays and devise schemes, there’s a risk in what you’re trying to achieve. The highest rate of efficiency should be in the running game and short passing game. To determine if those play calls operate at a high rate of efficiency, we utilize the negative play statistic. I would say the short passing game is an extension of the run game, but running the football definitely presents the lowest risk. The next safest aspect of offensive scheme would be the short passing game. I’ve always felt the short passing game is a long handoff.”
from Mike McCartney.
http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/article-1/Tuesdays-with-McCarthy/12b912c5-5ec4-4deb-8d54-216be57cb33a
#154
Actually next year will be the real fourth year since Coach Mack and staff had only three weeks to recruit in his first year. 80% of the recruits Mack picked up were recruited in those three weeks. Sad commentary on the recruiting during JJ’s last year. In effect UH’s recruiting efforts were hampered by two consecutive years of less than optimum conditions. Looking at next year the team will be in better balance (freshmen to seniors) than the past 15 years or so. Mack has been recruiting less JC and trying to focus on HS recruits. The main thrust of his high school recruits are now sophomores. Yes I hear the “Fire Mack Now” complaints loud and clear, but if one looks at the whole picture Coach Mack had to right a sinking ship and has finally patched the holes. Now is not the time to get rid of the Captain.
After much thought, I realize: I don’t know what to think.
I think the AD’s in a tough spot because of the money problems.
I think the head coach has to win.
The Utah State loss is mystifying.
I’m pretty much stumped on this one.
But the good news is the Modern Warfare game came out today.
And something is wrong with my laptop. I keep losing words.
Kev-1
Kennedy was highly regarded in junior college.
OK, I’m confused: Is Kev-1 and Kevin the same person?
I totally agree 165. Now is not da time to fire him.
I don’t think Moniz is doing badly. In fact, I think he’s performing just as well as last year. The reasons why the team is not going as well, record wise, is because of basically 4 reasons.
1) No Greg Salas, 2) No Kealoha Pilares, 3) No Alex Green, and 4) No Scott Enos. Have those 4 guys we probably will be 9-0 at this point. And, let’s remember all of those 4 guys played practically the entire season. We had 3 guys now in the NFL, and Enos had pretty much an almost perfect season kicking the ball, in fact perfect on extra points. That’s a lot to overcome. No such luck this year. Also, Kamalu Umu was very underrated as was Rodney Bradley. And you can’t forget the guys of the senior starters in the secondary, Jeremy Bryant, Lametrius Davis, Mana Silva, and Spencer Smith. That’s a lot of senior leadership on the team to lose.
Changing offenses would be crippling going to a new conference. unless u bring in fda same offense. Idk…..I still back mack.
808bowler, what is fda?
808bowler,
it depends. we have a lot of “brand new” next season.
it could either be the perfect time or the worst time. just depends how you look at it.
ST’s updated header:
The Warriors were back on the field this morning. Of note:
• Quarterback Bryant Moniz was not at practice because of a variety of ailments. He will practice tomorrow, and start in Saturday’s game against Nevada.
• Darius Bright returned to the lineup. He was at left wideout, with Joe Avery as the No. 2.
• David Graves took reps at quarterback and left wideout.
• Brett Leonard is back … at left tackle. Matagisila Lefiti and Andrew Faaumu split reps at left guard.
• Kicker Kenton Chun said his left knee (tendinitis) is much improved, and he should make the trip.
All I know is this is killing my Reno buzz.
Can’t have bummed-out readers while I’m getting ready for the craps table.
Joe Avery – show em what you can do.
Out of 120 FBS teams, we are 118th in sacks given up. We have allowed 31 sacks in 9 games, with an average of 3.44 sacks per game. We have also given up 61 tackles for loss so far on the season, with an average of 6.78 tackles for loss per game.
http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/1034/p3
Moniz was sacked twice in the 3rd quarter. In the 4th quarter, he was sacked once.
Aside from the 2 rushing TD’s Moniz scored on, he was chased out of the pocket and gained positive rush yards an additional 5 times at least. This is not counting the numerous times he scrambled to buy extra time for receivers to get free, and then fire passes down field for either a completion or incompletion. This also does not count the 4th and 3 play in the 4th quarter in which he neither gained nor loss yards.
http://espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=313090062&period=4
The 3 sacks plus the 5 scrambles for positive rush yards are already more than 10% of our total plays. Again, this does not account for the numerous other scrambles in which he attempted passes.
ST,
Don’t worry about it. Once you get on the craps table your mind will be only focused on rolling numbers.
ST #175 – accept with grace that which you cannot change.
Your readers will always be individually bummed-out for one reason or the other!
Again… The o line was not the reason we lost the game… No excuses…
Blowing a 24 point lead is on coaching, not players… It wasn’t huge sacks that out us in 3rd and long situations to y we blew it. We were constantly in Utah st territory. We settled for a fg. Missed a fg. And didn’t convert on 4th and short. Our punter punted once maybe twice if I remember … I’m on a cell now so I can’t pull up exact stats..
To point out our injuries to our o line over and over is just a sorry excuse is all I’m trying to say at this point. That was not the reason we lost.
Jim Donovan coming up on 1420.
At least we not Penn St.
ST #168 . . . I am a Kevin, but not the same one that posts as “Kevin.”
Watching that Roll Tide/War Eagle special on ESPN right now.
Ummm yeah you know “Big Time” programs we all been having discussions about…Yeah, me thinks they graduated from “Big Time” a while back.
These people are nuts.
#181 TRUE DAT!!!!!!
ST . . . stop by the roullette wheel and put $50 on Black (to represent the Warriors). you get em. Warriors will bounce back big time against Nevada to shut up people like me. I like the fact that this game represents a statement server for this team. This is not last years Nevada. CAN.
Hawaii v. Florida was shown for like 3 seconds on that special…highlighting Cam Newton.
Kev-1,
You shouldn’t have answered that, of all people ST should be able to tell. 😆
Apparently, the injuries do need to need to be mentioned because some people keep wondering why the offense wasn’t in sync.
Moniz wasn’t under pressure? What game were YOU watching?
Re: #181 – Couldn’t agree with you more. There’s always someone worse off, as the saying goes. The Penn State story is just “icky” (for lack of a better word) and nauseating.
That is a problem I have to find more information about, many thanks for the blog post.
#187 . . . I no like get blamed for all the crazy stuff that you say, vice versa. NAH, NAH, NAH . . . all in fun
Had our last Na Koa Board Meeting of the year today. Lots of discussion on what we are doing to support the team, and what we will look at doing in 2012. Talk about supporting the team, does anyone want to join a VERY fun table at the Alec Waterhouse Memorial Football Awards Banquet on Sunday, December 4? And I mean F-U-N?!?!?
Strangely, I’ve been to the Men’s Basketball Banquet numerous times, but never a football one. Always good to see what a great feeling it is to honor the athletes. For December 4th, Robert Kekaula’s the emcee and Chris Tanaka will be doing special videos highlighting the season. So again I ask…anyone want to join some really FUN Tsaikos?!??! 🙂
One game there is criticism because we tried an FG on fourth and three. The next game there is criticism because we went for it on forth and three.
Last year there was criticism because we only threw short and there was not even a threat of going deep. Now people are grumbling because we didn’t throw short.
There are LOTS of objective criticisms that can be raised, lots of legitimate questions that can be asked. This ex post facto second guessing, however, is bogus. Hind sight is always perfect. Let’s see how good you are going FORWARD.
193.
Whoever thinks that going for it on 4th and 3 as to why we lost knows nothing…
Hawaii had a chance to make numerous plays which would have sealed the win…
Batting down one of the balls on the 2 long tds. Making the play on the 2nd fake punt. List really goes on… Going for it was smart. Just didn’t execute well enough. Inch short
Go Warriors!
Go Warriors!
Go Warriors!
on another note…
what about the “boo birds” that chirped in on Saturday?
sad…really sad
as a coach…you gotta deal with it
as a player…totally depressing
as a fan…disgusting
as a matter of fact…pisses me off!!!
Go Wahine!
Go Wahine!
Go Wahine!
Go UH!
Go UH!
Go UH!
Imua Hawaii!
Hope the football game vs. Nevada doesn’t keep too many people away from the SSC for the Wahine volleyball game/Senior Night. Maybe they can show ESPN in the arena just like they did for “Hawaii Five-0?”
Get better Justin…damn, that is scary!
Lister, Jackson, Iosefa. Three relatively healthy bodies. Use two at a time for better pass protect, run blocking or some trickery. Formationally, just use your imagination.
For those who play Football Fever
On a week like the one just past, if you had a perfect entry, would you claim your prize? 😉 😀 😈
If I recall correctly, if we had made the forth and three, the game would be relatively out of reach, forcing the USU to make three scores within the limited time left.
Unfortunate that we did not make it nor did we make the FG; in the latter, I can’t blame the coach – he did not kick the ball; in the former, I can’t blame the coach as he was not (1) on the line blocking or (2) carrying the ball.
In either event, the call was probably correct, the fault was either in execution or good defensive play.
Never liked the sacks per game stat. That’s not comparing apples and apples when we fling it 40+ times a game and a team like Army does it like 7 times a game. Of course Army is going to get sacked fewer times per game than us.
So according to the customized stat of sacks per 100 pass attempts, we come in ranked 78th at 7.4 sacks per 100 pass attempts. Not as horrific when looking at it in that manner. Oklahoma is ranked 1st at 1.0 sacks per 100 pass attempts and Boise is 4th at 1.4 sacks…pretty darn impressive for those two schools that fling it quite a bit. No. 120 is Ohio State at 17.4 sacks…now that’s a team with protection issues.
Oh, and Army actually comes in at No. 119 with 14.1 sacks per 100 pass attempts. That compares to coming in tied for 16th at 1.0 sacks per game.
Bad spot on the 4th and 3 attempt.
Second-guessing is well, second-nature. When you dont make a first down or touchdown on fourth down, it was a bad call.
Call a running play, and its stopped? Bad call…..if it works, great call!
If you succeed on a fake punt, it was a great, gutsy call. If it doesnt work….all hell breaks loose!
Well I waited till most settled down:
UH vs Reno
39 – 10 Pomai
56 – 13 Kekoa
59 – 28 d1shima
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Pomai,
35 – 29 WarriorNY
Darren… I just threw those sacks and tackles for loss stats up there, along with what we “allowed” in the USU game, because Jeezy said Moniz wasn’t under any pressure the whole game. Not trying to compare us to anyone else. Just that we have so far given up that many sacks per game (and total so far this season). Just trying to show that Moniz was under duress during the game… and in fact, during just about every game except for UC-Davis. That’s all.
Pomai-
35-21 LizKauai
Well…
that’s a deep subject.
😈
So is it safe to say that the Warriors have experienced a disproportionate number of injuries as compared to other D-1 teams? And of so, why is that so? We got a bad mojo? Curse? We just softer and more injury prone than other teams? We are crazier and play with more reckless abandon? What you guys think?
BIK
Besides, if you take that revised approach of sacks per 100 pass attempts, you gotta figure it for every single FBS team, not just us, and then find where we’d fit in the original Sacks Allowed list.
No worries Wes’side…it was always something that I was just curious about and found kind of interesting.
And yes, Moniz has been constantly under pressure this entire season. OL breakdowns, receivers not getting open, wrong reads…who knows. Just get all 11 guys working together (this week’s starters at least) and let’s get this thing straightened out.
Yeah, I did the listing for all 120 FBS teams. We come in at 78th compared to 119th in the official sacks per game. Moniz does a pretty good job of throwing it away to live for another down when he needs to.
The game of football is played by players not coaches. Any one looking at UH problems would not touch the job. a down year but we are still on a good track with this staff
Keep on being Warriors.
True, and like I said, these numbers do not reflect how many times he’s had to scramble just to buy extra time, which then leads to pass attempts. The true number of times he’s been under pressure and has had to take off out of the pocket will probably be some outrageous number. A less mobile QB would probably lead to our Sacks Allowed numbers to double, at least.
Pomai, hmmm, somehow my score was lost…maybe deleted?
Anyhow: It was something like this
UH 49 UNReno 27
This should not be a surprise to anybody. The new information here is that Utah State has already informed the WAC that they will be going to the MWC when BSU/others leave.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/52863974-77/state-conference-football-east.html.csp
New Mexico is apparently interviewing 3 football coaches on Saturday.
1. Jim Leavitt
2. Mike Leach
3. Tom Bowden
I thought it was Terry and not Tommy…the other son. The one that got canned at Auburn.
What is so. UH lost.
Why they lost? Good question that many has shared answers for.
Will they win again? Yes. Will they lose again? Yes.
Will comments be abound on both outcomes? Yes.
Will UH ever be a consistent top 20 team? No.
Will we ever average over 43,000 fans again in a season? Yes, No, Maybe So.
Will UH end up with a winning record for 2011? Don’t know.
What makes this blog interesting? The people with their opinions, their outlook and the insightful information shared.
Let the saga continue on. Enjoy the journey of UH football.
If New Mexico can afford Leach, sign him up!
No where to go but up…
up up and away.
Oh yes, I have a dream.
If UNM can afford Leach, we can afford Jon Gruden.
With Pirates of the Caribbean being filmed here and all, I bet Leach would love this place.
Pomai 41 – 21 UH to win!
Tanks.
POMAI UH -21
NV – 7
I guess hiring Sandusky is out of the question.
It’s only Tuesday and ST is already playing craps in Reno?
Side note: Weber State HC Ron McBride announced his retirement effective at the end of this season. McBride was always a big fan of Hawaii players when he was at Utah and at WSU. He even arranged to allow UH to practice at the Weber State campus last year on their road trip to USU. People may remember that McBride was a candidate for the UH HC job back in 1998, but it went to June Jones, instead.
#228,
I remember that.
Anybody remember when Tommy Bowden was actually INTERESTED in the Hawaii job? I know fellow blogger krump_1_protector remembers this well.
And there was talks that his father (Bob) was prepared to send 2 of his top assistants to help with his son’s new career.
Again, I have a dream.
Any good throwin Samoan coaches out there?
Didn’t somebody say Colt Brennan was interested in coaching?
What’s Dennis Green doing nowadays?
“Then crown their ass!”
Did you all know that fellow Warrior Keith Bhonopha coaches running backs at Boise?
I was just looking at their website and was a little bit surprised to see that.
I wonder if he is in charge of recruiting Hawaii.
Dennis Green ? He was supposed to be coaching the
Sacramento Mountain Lions of the United Football League.
Don’t know if the league actually got off the ground.
Colt Brennan was supposed to play for Jerry Glenville at Hartford(?), but they folded.
that’s Jerry Glanville, if anyone cares.
Touchdowns in the MAC much be cheap sale or something…Send some over our way please.
I wonder why Jon Gruden hasn’t got back into coaching.
I listened to JD on Da Animals show earlier. He sure does have the talent to stretch “no comment” into one helluvah long sentence.
I am confidant that we are the only school that doesn’t play the 7 Nation Army song at football games.
ai-eee-soos #234
Monday, October 17, 2011, 1:21pm PDT
Related:
Sports Business, Sacramento
The United Football League is cutting its season short, and the Sacramento Mountain Lions will be playing one more game in a consolation match.
The Mountain Lions, which won their first game of the season Saturday against the Virginia Destroyers, will face the Omaha Nighthawks in Omaha on Friday.
The championship game between the Virginia Destroyers and Las Vegas Locos also will be Friday in Virginia Beach.
The UFL originally planned for six games. And before the beginning of the season, one of the league’s teams was disbanded, bringing down the teams to just four.
The league also was plagued by a delayed start of the season because of the National Football League lockout, which also kept the UFL from arranging television agreements.
UFL founder and Locos owner Bill Hambrecht said moving to the championship game was the best way to move forward.
“We faced many challenges during the off-season but were still able to kick off our third season,” Hambrecht said in a statement.
Plans for the league include beginning the next season with a minimum of six teams.
Integrity???? Penn State is a Big 10 institution.
While shocking and pathetic, the fact that something.. ANYTHING was rotten there does NOT surprise me.
IWWTHM,
So let me get this straight? Some guy at Penn State takes a whole bunch of kids to his own “HAPPY VALLEY” and all of a sudden you wanna start questioning what kind of integrity UH has?
Sorry man, gotta say that’s uncalled for and borderline bulls—.
#242,
Just makes you wonder though. What things get swept under the rug. Unfortunately that’s life ah.
Kevin,
Im not questioning. Just wondering what happens across the country in general.
Stranger things have happened.
I don’t link Penn St or Ohio State to UH. I link the fact that UH are run by people. And it has been in existence for over 100 years and I’ve come to realize people make mistakes.
Its just a thought like “I wonder if aliens exist” kind of thought.
It only makes you wonder if you hold Penn State in such HIGH REGARD and apparently you do.
Years ago when Paterno was cited as cutting off some students in his car while on campus and getting into a tirade about “DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM????”, it’s small inkling of the arrogance and the untouchable feeling institutions and athletic programs like these that get so bloated with power that they and those involved feel like they can do no wrong while their friends hide the truth for them.
Just reminds me of the NBA holdout and the NFL issue earlier. In today’s economy where hard working everyday people are getting boned, we have to sit and listen to millionaires fight with billionaires… STUPID. Yet the majority still drool over these pro athletes that display such disregard for common sense and are obviously not appreciative of their God-given talents that have afforded them the LUXURY to get stinking rich playing a sport that college student-athletes do for the love of it.
Dude, you did link UH when referring to Penn State’s current dilemma. Citing that those sick allegations now lead you to wonder what happens at UH amongst other institutions.
And if Im being too sensitive, I make no apologies, my interests and my concern and my FOUNDED loyalty has been expressed before and I don’t think I have to explain it again.
Kevin,
Nah your entitled to your opinions. Watching the Penn State thing on tv just now just made me think of things.
The thoughts just came from my own experiences. Don’t expect you or anyone to understand what I was thinking.
My bad if I offended you or anyone else.
JD wants to wait until after the season to evaluate the coaching staff. Sometimes you gotta pull the trigger if you want the best guy to take the program forward. Would it be unprofessional to send out feelers on some coaches that are out there? Would you pay 1 million for Mike Leach (he might take it, if somebody else doesn’t offer 1st)? Snoooze you lose….
Boise State has to do what it has to do.
I don’t think the Big East is a good fit at all, but I think these are all Kardashian weddings, anyway.
Teams will continue to move around.
One of the rules of television popularity is familiarity. If you can’t follow which team is in which conference, it waters down the product.
Boise has a terrific head coach and a sound program, but it’s in a small TV market and isolated. Think UH is under pressure? Last year was considered a bust for Boise after the loss to Nevada. So, it is in Boise State’s best interest to strike while it’s hot.
I also think Boise has some leverage, and it should try to work out a good cut of the TV pie or help in placing its other sports.
I feel for Idaho and New Mexico State. But that’s the problem with isolation. Just hope nobody figures out that Hawaii is in the middle of the ocean.
Oh, and one other thing: Joe Paterno has to go.
Ron McBride is a very good coach with close ties to Hawaii’s high school coaches. Best wishes to Ron on his retirement.
I wish I could retire too..
So who will Penn State hire? Maybe a woman?
Goldie Hawn comes to mind. She coached the “Wildcats”…
Yawn…good night. Go for 300 somebody.
First of all, love to Justin and here’s to a speedy recovery and secondly… Happy 21st Birthday to Alex Dunnachie on the 9th November, have a great flight and fantastic win in Nevada. xx
and thirdly- thanks to everyone who look out for the Warriors especially those who live a great distance from their families.
Happy Birthday Alex Dunnachie.
Oi,Oi,Oi.
No worries, Aussie Mum. Once a Warrior, always a Warrior. We take care of our own. Happy Birthday, Alex! Keep booming them.
Sorry my swype feature types fda when I want it to say da.
Thankyou gmahoney.
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Warriors 33 – Ratpack 31
#250,
I think Boise in general may be quite fragile even amid its success.
Hawaii can sustain the hit from bad seasons. Even during the VonAppen years we have seen 25K+ fans show up.
That is something I don’t think Boise has. It takes a while to develop that kind of “loyalty”.
You have a small population to begin with, you have bandwagon fans in Boise too believe it or not.
A few mediocre under 10 win seasons and you might see a significant drop in attendance and off course the nation isn’t going to watch you play so-so football.
Interesting article about how San Diego State might apparently need BYU’s support to get into the Big East…shortly after the email was revealed where SDSU put down BYU to try to get a spot in the Big 12. Apparently, if Air Force declines the Big East invitation then SDSU needs to hope that BYU picks them to bring along…
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/nov/08/would-byu-want-sdsu-big-east-west/
I have already pointed out a number of times why I thought that going to the Big East makes sense for BSU, as the extra visibility and revenue will shield them from declines they will have if they start to lose. We should also note that Chris Petersen seems to be enthusiastic about BSU going to the Big East and is even openly talking about having BYU go with them.
If BSU gets into a Western Division with BYU, SDSU, Houston, SMU, and Cincy, they will have a core group in case the Big East blows up. BSU/BYU/SDSU/Houston/SMU could pick and choose teams from CUSA/MWC if they needed to start their own conference later. So, if there is a Western Division of the Big East, the schools have a safety net if the Big East implodes.
BYU/BSU/SDSU/Houston/SMU and any 4 teams from the MWC/CUSA/WAC could get a TV contract that would be more than the MWC, WAC, and CUSA together. The biggest TV draws in a conference bring most of the TV money, and those are most of the biggest TV draws from the 3 non-AQ conferences in the west. BSU alone was responsible for 75% of the WAC’s TV contract according to ESPN…and BYU’s TV money will just about equal the entire TV revenue for the MWC (or CUSA since they get basically the same TV money).
So, if BSU gets that Western Division, I don’t see the downside for them going to the Big East. They are looking at 1 or 2 road games to current Big East schools for a year, not a big deal…those cities are easier to get to than Ruston.
Interesting study on how well Athletic Departments do when you take into account their budget. This is something that UH fans have been talking about for a long time now…and I hate to point out that for the WAC, UH is a big budget school, not nearly one of smaller budget schools. At least UH doesn’t have to ask for fans to bring juice boxes for the players to drink during training camp like NMSU, and UH can afford to give all of their scholarships unlike SJSU could.
Utah State was #3 in 2010 and #1 in 2009 when you take into account athletic success and athletic budget. For the WAC in 2010, La Tech was #2, BSU was #3, SJSU was #4, NMSU was #5, and UH was #6.
UH was #31 in the country but just #6 in the WAC…attesting to how efficiently WAC schools have to spend their money to do more with less than big budget schools.
http://lsia.tamu.edu/2010%20Excellence%20in%20Management%20Final%20Results.pdf
If the Big East throws in a basketball scheduling agreement for BSU, BYU, and SDSU, that would bring in a lot of extra visibility and revenue for those schools…Big East basketball is a huge draw for attendance and TV.
The attorney representing the NBA players says that “the owners treat players like plantation workers.” What a f_____n moron. I never heard of a plantation worker getting paid millions upon millions of dollars to play a game. What a historically and culturally insensitive comment. Hearing stuff like that makes me lose more sympathy towards the players (what little I had left).
#268 Garret . . . you make a good point. The way you illustrate it, it sure does seem like the makings of another conference in the middle of all of this fluidity. Either this is all coincidence, or someone is a pretty smart planner. If you think about it too, that is a nice core to build a conference around – BYU, Boise, SMU, and Houston (not sure I agree as much with SDSU, but it still fits). That core would be stronger than what either the MAC, WAC, or Big East have to offer now.
ST I agree . . . Joe Paterno needs to go.
I nominate sandra bullock for o-line coach.
As one can conclude by having a western division in the Big East. The ESPN network is dictating and wants the Big East to survive in football. Why can’t BYU, Boise, Air Force, Houston, SMU, SDSU, and 4 other schools create a division within a conference with the WAC or CUSA conference.
The MWC is the demise of what is going on because of the lack of investment from their TV network. ESPN have too many connections to the Big East which is their first priority. The other division within the WAC or CUSA to be built on their merit as time goes on. However in the meantime it would behoove the schools mentioned to spread some of the wealth to the so called other division to help them build which in time will help the overall conference whichever is used since no new conference can be created which I think is “bull”. ESPN will make sure Big East football survives.
What exactly is ESPN’s interest in the Big East that leads to this grand conspiracy theory?
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#35 CoolEthan re: cupping / treatment
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Garret,
So, we all gotta hope that somewhere along the way the Big East does blow up and it’s Western Division forms it’s own conference. THEN, with any luck, Hawaii will be back in the running — provided Hawaii does well in the next few years to come. If not, we’ll be stuck with the bottom dwellers of the MWC, WAC and CUSA, eh?
#223 The entire state would go ballistic! Recruiting? No problem.
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