Circle of (recruiting) life
A key member of UH’s 2010 recruiting class has four years of Division I-A experience and already has earned a bachelor’s degree.
In a twist only the NCAA understands, middle linebacker Brashton Satele, who is appealing for an exemption to play as a sixth-year senior, must count as part of the 2010 recruiting class. He also will use one of the 25 initial scholarships the Warriors are allowed this year.
Huh?
Well, as we have been told, Satele has exhausted his original scholarship because he completed his five years of eligibility and graduated in December. Assuming he is granted a sixth year, he would have to receive a new scholarship, which means he would count as a new recruit.
Once again: huh?
This must be a new rule since Lui Fuga did not have to count twice after he graduated and then received a sixth year.
The bright spot is the Warriors are so hopeful Satele will be granted the exemption they are willing to commit an initial scholarship.
Offensive tackle Laupepa Letuli, defensive tackle Rocky Savaiigaea and wideout Jovonte Taylor also are seeking sixth years. But they have not earned BAs.
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Luke Ingram and Bryant Moniz also will count as 2010 recruits.
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Here’s a link to a Q&A with Coach Mack on 2010 recruiting (not sure why it’s not posted in the online sports section):
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UH’s first practice of spring training is April 1.
The annual Green-White Game will not be played at Aloha Stadium because of renovations.
New turf?
Dunno. But we’re told the stadium won’t be available.
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Word on the street is Shawn Ching has been hired as a political analyst for Hawaii News Now (that KHNL-KFVE-KGMB mashup). His speciality will be election coverage in the fall. We’re assuming that means he won’t be available to do sports-related work for KHNL-KFVE-KGMB.
1st
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that’s weird.
then again the ncaa is weird.
then again anytime you give any governing body autonomy things like this happen.
just like s*** happens.
no make sense.
5th!
just another reason why the university of hawaii should manage the stadium.
Being 5th for the first time ever, I would like to thank all the small people that made this happen… All those Fresno State people who think we stink, but then again still live in Fresno. The Boise State people, great fans, lousy turf. And then we have the San Jose folks. Well…
Nough said….. Happy weekend all!
watching estes play….he dispelled the biggest question marked surrounding his pro potential. he could handle the big guys up the middle without any problems.
Ah screw it!!! Green and White Spring Game to be played on Ching Field AT NIGHT!!!
so if brashton gets his year back, then does this mean that the trickle down effect results in another greyshirt dropdown?
what would happen then if pepa, rocky, and jovonte gets theirs??
when did the rules change?
i know that there’s been discussion regarding just giving an athlete five years to play then poof. but, this is another ridiculous situation.
Good (early) morning everyone!
Hoping the best for Brashton Satele.
I read a few people are cheering for the J-E-T-S today… 🙂
i dunno….i was thinking about switching my allegiances to the c o l t s.
and how could one not think that the aints won’t win it by another crushing margin except my dog.
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
Re-posting this reply from yesterday’s blog:
Great that Brashton will probably get to play. The part about having to count as one of this season’s initials SUCKS! ncaa does it again.
gmorning Tsaiks!
It would be a blessing to have Brashton back for another year. He’d be like a seasoned freshman that will have an immediate impact onto the season.
That’s the kinda ROI I’d like to see.
al- your dog get some unreal faith and insights, eh? Buggah know sumtin we don’t? Or just playing devil’s advocate with you?
Must be your dog watching ESPN and cruising the net late at nite while the household sleeps. Or was dat D-1’s dog…
I do *not* understand why the NCAA would make Brashton’s scholarship count towards the initial 25 limit. That probably will require someone else to greyshirt that the coaches weren’t planning on greyshirting…
don’t know if it’s been mentioned already…but I found a very complimentary article by sports illustrated bout, Estes.
(http://sportsilustrated.cnn.com/2010/nfl/01/22/shrine/index.html)
and good morning all, from Marshall, Texas.
oooops!/…shud have been “sportsillustrated.”
It’s a conspiracy. Got to wonder why it would be so difficult to interpret these rules. Not having several compliance officers is one thing but it seems that with so many cases in the past involving medical hardship that you should be able to get idea of what the parameters to policies are. This policy seems to be very confusing.
If he is a new recruit does that mean we gain back a scholarship since he graduated? Isn’t it a wash?
So if Brashton hadn’t graduated in December, then he wouldn’t be counted toward the 2010 class? Very strange rule …
Hope we get our new recruit and seasoned “freshman,” as Ajoe said. Strange NCAA rules…
I was just having a conversation with a friend about who would do sports at Hawaii News Now, and said Shawn Ching. Guess I was wrong. Didn’t KHNL always have Dan Boylan? All the best to Liz…hope we see her back soon. She was classy and was very much a pioneer for women in broadcasting in Hawaii.
It sounds like UH is being penalized for Brashton graduating in a timely manner. Very counter intuitive.
Great Morning All!
Once again proving…No Clue At All!
New turf would be great…but then, so would a lot of other things in the State: no furlough Fridays; no new taxes; clear, blue skies…
A peaceful Sunday, everyone!
Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.
Looking to see if the J E T S can pull it off.
They penalize a player who was injured but still worked hard to graduate on time. Weird. I wonder about the reasoning behind the rule/decision.
So, should this situation againg arise it would it be wise to ge one class short, not graduate, and not count the 6th year scholarship against the current year?
Crazy.
I think that one factor is that the NCAA recently has been having several players use a loophole that allows a player who graduated from one school to play at another school right away without sitting out a year. There have been several examples of this recently, which some people have been calling a “loophole” that allows players to transfer schools and play right away.
So, since Brashton graduated he would actually be eligible to transfer and play for another school in 2010. When you take that into account, now I understand why he’d count towards the initial 25 scholarships…in the NCAA’s eyes, he’s a free agent (just like any high school kid) who is able to play for anybody next season.
Some players who lost out on playing time to another player on their team have graduated early to enable them to transfer to another school with this rule. If I remember correctly, there was some talk that they would change the rule to close the loophole but they didn’t change the rules yet.
arret
Is my thinking correct? Satele can be like a “free agent” if he chooses to attend another school, but not be considered one at UH? Maybe he should make wikiwiki and a contact SMU. I bet JJ would “snap” him up wikiwiki.
Somebody should have just advised brashton NOT to graduate. Yes, he could have had all his classes done, taken a few more extra ones and still be able to postpone his graduation to a later date.
BIK
good morning everyone,
Big Island Kurt – interesting strategy, i like it
Wafan – spoken like a true educator, hurrah!
d1 – is that the short version of ‘it’s a perfect world list’?
mc – Texas………brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr brother
addahjoe – brother, long time no see, i almost miss you…..hahha
expat – when it comes to UH, when does it ever make sense?
have a restful day everyone 🙂
I learned something. I cannot type with my right hand while eating a steaming bowl of udon.
Sorry for the typos.
Garret . . .
Thank you for the loophole information. It makes some sense if you tilt your head and stick out your tongue just right.
It would make sense not to impose the penalty if the player did not transfer schools. But, that would be asking and expecting too much.
66 days and counting……………or 65 days? either way, pretty soon it’s going to be snap, crack’em and pop time……….oh yeah
huh? what the????
Go Vikings.
They should send Shawn to analyze the NCAA.
Hilo Moon,
Brashton is considered a free agent for all schools and would be treated the same (count towards the initial 25) no matter where he goes. Most schools are close to filling all their spots for new recruits. Given how he knows the UH system and staying would probably be best for him athletically and academically, I don’t think he has any reason to transfer.
I’m trying to teach my 4-year-old to write a blog…so much work that I’ll go offline now.
Wait.. but that also means that Brashton “graduated” so his scholarship is freed up giving UH one more for the “85” so maybe it will pan out by Summer.
MIH:
A team is allowed 85 scholarships total, but only 25 new ones for each recruiting class.
Brashton counts against the 25 scholarships for 2010 class.
But he also remains as part of the 85.
Good Sunday Morning Tsaiko’s!
Just having a healthy Brashton Satele back in the saddle will be worth it.
Hmmm…sounds like a parking garage t-gate of Bentos ‘n Buckets of Brewskis’ for the G/W game!
(I think I might know a certain fan who will never make it down to field level after a few of those
Beverages). 😎
I guess the question is also how many of last year’s gray shirts will count against this year’s 25.
Here’s a Q & A with Mack on 2010 recruiting (not sure why it wasn’t posted online):
http://sports.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100124/SPORTS0201/1240385&template=UHsports
What does NCAA stand for?
Think UH volleyball.
N..on-sensical
C..onspirators
A..gainst
A..loha State
or
N..on-bcs
C..ontainment
A..lliance of
A..rses
or
N..ational
C..orrupted
A..thletic
A..SSociation
or
N..o
C..an
A..llow
A..dequation
Mahalo ST
GO WARRIORS
66 and counting …….
Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂
RedZone:
January 24th, 2010 at 7:34 am
They should send Shawn to analyze the NCAA.
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But Shawn Ching is our friend. We wouldn’t wish that mission on even our worst enemies. 😆
ST,
Thanks.. that’s a good article. So three from last year counts against this year’s 25. That leaves 22… that is.. if we have the full complement of 25 to offer in the first place.
Shawn has enough to do right now.
Isn’t he a lobbyist for school-bus service?
NCAA brings to mind that old saying: “If you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullsh*t.” 😆
It’s 22, but it’s not really 22.
You can grayshirt.
Some guys aren’t projected to make it.
And, of course, some are going to other schools.
As I understand it, there are enough scholarships for everybody.
Main teeng is we get back Brashton. Nuff said.
Howzit A-joe! Nice to see you on the ole WB!
Talked with Rich2176 yesterday. He was happy to report that his father, Rich Sr., is on the road to recovery after suffering post-op complications from hip replacement surgery. Rich Sr. says he cant wait to swing a golf club again. Keep him in your prayers.
You know what the say about the NCAA right?
“_____ THEM”
Healing prayers for Rich’s Dad.
Kazz ~ *PRAY* for THEM?!
It’s kind of weird to see a blimp being used for a domed game.
Nice view of the roof, though.
While the NCAA rule is puzzling, at least UH has a head’s up.
It would be bad if it learned of the rule after signing day.
At first glance it appeared that the NCAA ruling for Brashton was unfair, but, must agree with Garret that Brashton has already graduated and used up his initial scholarship.
If this new rule is close a “loophole” for those players who graduated and moves to another school, then it would seem unfair to penalize Brashton as he will remain at UH. But, Garret points out that the rule has not yet been adopted by the NCAA so how can they apply it to Brashton?
Similar situation when the NCAA “punished” UH VB team for using Costas and stripping away the title and banner. I was told that this was a way to “punish” other big name basketball schools from using players who participated in “pro-leagues” in their country before bringing their talents to USA.
This, IMHO, was more absurd because the NCAA adopted the rule months after the game and made it retro-active to a time 5-6 years before the championship game saying that UH “should have known”. How can UH “should have known” when there was no rule to begin with!
rule is close = rule to close
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
WOW TD Jets
No. 63:
A menehune just turned a frown upside down.
❗ JETS JETS JETS ❗
Wadda pass! Wadda catch! You could almost hear him break the sound barrier on the way to the end zone…
so just to clarify, all 5 of last year’s greyshirts are counted against last year’s totals? and brashton, moniz and ingram are the reasons why we are dropping from 25 to 22?
http://sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=34305&start=15
Get it? Jets? Breakin the sound barrier? Jets?
letsgo:
Something like that.
ST- Hope you’re taking your meds. NYJ putting up a Dog fight!
Bulla- Stay missing you too. We can’t wait for the Beast to be unleashed!
Powder Puff- Howz Chi-Town?
DPK- Miss you, Hawaiian! For real, kinda longtime, yeah?
Bigislandkurt I love your simple solution to a convoluted ruling. Mahalo, bull! Howz the natives up Kaumana and Ka’u- errybody on their best behavior? =)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!! Wata PLAY!
Watching Brad Smith throw, I wonder: Why didn’t UH have Funaki throw out of the wildcat last year?
TOUCHDOWN J.E.T.S!!!
WOW another one!
Johnny on the Spot Fumbo Recovery! J.E.T.S! Ball!!
J.E.T.S! Came to play! WOW!!
That was fast
A very engaging sporting event thus far I’d say!
Recruiting 2010 was an interesting read, helps to explain coach Mac take on recruiting and what UH is trying to accomplish in the recruiting war for local athletes. I guess his recruiting budget is much larger than JJ, I believe Glanville and Reinebold had to use the scouting bureaus for info on HS players on the mainland.
Morning all.
“Smiling Faces” by the Undisputed Truth. ST, you really are an old school soul guy, huh?
Any word yet on how the recruiting visits have gone? This weather sure hasn’t helped.
Good article, Mr. Tsai. Confirmed what you have been saying about the coaches and recruiting. Thank you!
Oui oui!!! GARCON!!!!
Sorry ST, I just don’t like Mark “Dirty” Sanchez… 😆
Since the BCS schools get to monopolize the greater amounts of moola$$$$ from bowl games, why does the NCAA not allow non-BCS schools the green-light to offer more scholarships to level the playing field, so to speak??
Why does Phil Simms sound like Tim McCarver?
OK.
I did not know that Simms and McCarver were both from the South.
So ST is this Amanda Gil girl from UCLA suppose to be at this weeks men’s VB match ?
Rumors are running wild in other places that she committed to Washington. Can we get some updated info from sources on this ?
The Who is performing at the Super Bowl?
When was their last hit? The 1970s?
I guess Grand Funk Railroad wasn’t available.
Let’s Go, Jets!!!!
McTruck- I like where you’re going with your thought. Makes sense. Seems only fair.
Good afternoon Tsai-kos!
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
a-joe – #90 – problem with that is the NCAA will say that they have no control over the BCS, so it wouldn’t be fair to those schools.
gloomy morning but still a rest day for the weary. alojah everybody hope you having a fine one even if your not a jet fan but if you are all’s good so far.
manning is just amazing and the cots team is always finding ways to keep jet offense off the field. excellent oline pass and run blocking, they work their scheme very well.
hope next game between vikings and saints is just as good
J-E-T-S, Jets! Jets! Jets!
jm2375, your #91:
Why would the NCAA not have any “control” over the BCS schools?
Are they not limited to the same 25 scholarship each year and a maximun of 85 scholarship players?
Seems like the BCS schools do a lot of “illegal” things that the NCAA closes its eyes on which makes it very frustrating for non-BCS schools and their fans!
I’m taking inventory:
A-Joe and Liz will be getting recruiting scoops.
Hey Mr. Tsaiko (Tsai) – I read your recruiting article with Greg McMackin this morning and it got me wondering. Did you have your eyes closed when you “puckered up” and kissed some “booty” ?
(lol)
I mean COME ON !
I love the work you do brother, I love this blog, I mean it’s fun, informative and sometimes eye-opening, but you have GOT to be kidding me.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but did you just take a hit for the guy ?
As far as we can all see, UH is getting NONE, ZERO, NADA of the top “blue chip” type Hawaii high school football players. To be honest, UH’s recruiting plan AND execution is very similar to the hiring of Greg McMackin as head coach, an OBJECT FAILURE !
Think about, a .500 coach for $2.2M over the last two seasons, ENUFF SAID right !?!?!
LOL 🙂 what passion!
I think I’m not going to protect Ralph from the Dessert Sprayer.
ENM:
I have no control over who they recruit.
Although I would love it if they gave a walk-on shot to Christian Tom, a receiver from Roosevelt.
I was at Zippy’s last night, and that guy was working hard, waiting tables.
Pllus, he’s a tall guy.
#96 Broken record, repeats himself over and over and over and over and over and over and over again … oh if I failed to mention over and over and over and over and over again….. getting old…..
what is the dessert?
Did Lagafuaina visit this weekend?
I think there was a perception that UH was overlooking recruits.
I don’t think that’s the case. I think the coaches do a good job of identifying the top prospects in the state. I mean, they were the first on those Waialua guys last year; prospects I don’t think many of us knew much about.
And I think many thought they weren’t on the Iolani d-lineman, when they were were.
That said, recruiting is a two-part system: creating a wish list and fulfilling it. We’ll know this year how good they were with their initial class (in 2008). We’ll know in a a couple of years how good this recruiting class is.
Who/What is a Dessert Sprayer?
Looks like it’s Utah or Utah State for VJ Fehoko. No mention of UH anywhere, I guess for obvious reasons.
LINK: http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=9886&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
I think it’s been well-documented about the dynamics that led to the head coach’s pay.
I don’t think that’s a problem.
I do believe that nobody is going to tolerate a sub-.500 season in 2010.
What also will be interesting is if UH implements a price increase for the USC game. If that happens, the game better be entertaining.
wowlaulau:
Well my friend, unlike yourself in so many situations, at least I know what the hell I’m talking about !
Mr. Tsai, you are correct, only time will tell who pans out, so remind me, when the time comes and if I’m wrong I’ll be the first to admit it, however, when I’m wrong, as I expect to be, I’ll be the first let you ALL know….I TOLD YOU SO !
yawn
Another Pandora’s box will be student fees.
That would be a great revenue source, but it also will mean that 17,000 students will feel like “investors.” I don’t care if you pay $1 or $200, every student will feel deserving of an opinion — not always kind — if a fee is imposed.
It’s a privilege to play college football.
It also is a privilege to coach one.
With money comes greater pressure.
Haha!
Our fay-rit sportscaster/Karaoke Guest just posted on FB:
A-house – what I meant was, the NCAA has no control over the BCS *bowls* who give out the money. Garans ball barans, they start giving more schollies to the non-BC$ schools, the crybabies gonna cry foul!
How come people say “enough said” — or even “ENUFF SAID” — when it’s obvious that they intend to keep talking and talking and talking about a subject? Particularly when it’s pretty much the ONLY subject they ever talk about. LAME.
Now if that person truly NEVER talks about that subject again, I will apologize sincerely for my cynicism.
Anyway, I’m excited to see what happens this spring.
Paipai Falemalu said he’s up to 255. I think he can be a pretty good pass-rusher.
I think Aaron Brown is going to be fun to watch.
Brett Leonard is going to be interesting. He came in as this really nice guy. But one of the managers told me to keep an eye out on him in practices. And I’m impressed. He’s developed a kick-okole attitude. And he’s a weight-room fanatic.
WM:
I think he made his point. I had to cut him off.
Although I did like the fact that he did call me “Mr…”
ENM #107 . . .
You expect to be wrong?
Me too.
wafan:
Absolutely NOT!
Mr. Tsai:
Wow, Paipai up to 255 Lbs, sounds like he too has become a weight room fanatic, and that’s a GREAT thing.
I think the thing with recruiting is that it’s based on projections.
In the NFL, you draft, for the most part, good-to-go players.
In college recruiting, a coach has to project where a player will be in two or three years.
Look at Tala Esera. UH took a chance on him based on the projection that his agility and long arms would help him develop into a capable pass-blocker. Same with Ray Hisatake, who didn’t play football in high school and was on the defensive side for the first three years.
The first UH gray shirt was Kaulana Noa. He ended up starting every game of his UH career.
Then again, there have been some fairly good high school players who couldn’t make the jump.
If you care about the program, the week before LOI day is NOT the time to be criticizing the coaching staff. Period.
I can’t recall too many true freshmen who were impact players.
Manti Teo.
Niko Noga.
Jason Elam, but he was a kicker.
Maybe Tim Chang.
Mojo,
’nuff said!
😆
BTW, was it Al Green Night last night?
Solomon Elimimian.
davone bess, but a couple years after HS.
Lets go Viks!
Lawrence Lagafuaina changed his recruiting visit to UH from this week to next weekend.
Here’s what Chris Fetters said on the WSN board.
LINK: http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=219&f=1136&t=5514541
Vince Manuwai?
This guy is a GENIUS!
A M E N
Scout.com reports that WR, Kaelin Clay have committed to CAL.
jm2375- Understood. Then if that’s the case all the more we’d have a case against both the NCAA and the BCS. Always remember, although the NCAA does not have a say over the BCS, they do condone and comply with their actions.
Pressing the issue to offer more schollies to so called “non-BCS” schools will bring to light the convoluted unbalanced system that’s now in place and force the NCAA to get involved and take a stand.
I swear if this, “haves and have nots” issue were gender or racially based, the NCAA would’ve stomped the BCS a long time ago. I’m always amazed just because it’s not, somehow it’s OK to openly exclude the less fortunate.
Lagafuaina is taking his SAT this late in the recruiting season. He’ll know if he has the scores needed just before NLI day if he is lucky. If not, the college takes a chance in accepting him not knowing if he has the scores needed in SAT.
I wonder why d-1 prospects take the SAT so late in the year — especially knowing their scores are so important to them and the program to which they sign.
Good luck to Lagafuaina!
According to the website, SAT scores for yesterday’s test will be available on Feb 11, over a week after NLI day. So schools won’t know if he’s a qualifier till after the fact.
Let’s not jump to conclusions that these kids are only taking the SAT’s for the first time now. It could be they took it earlier but didn’t have the scores – you can take the SAT’s multiple times. Or, they are taking it again to get a better score even if they have already qualified.
wafan,
It doesn’t say this is the first time he’s taking the SAT….
…prospects (or their parents) are “nimrods”?
My def of “True Frosh” is someone who just graduated from HS..
ie not a grayshirt, mission, millitary, etc.
Thus not Davone..
But guys like Abu Maafala, Jason Rivers, Dan Kelly, Adam Leonard, BJ Fruean, “Logo” Fonoti, Malcolm Lane, Richard Torres
richard torres grayshirted
Howzit WarriorMojo!…I’ve got another dramatic crime story for ya! This has a little ‘armed’ robbery, a dash of Kidnapping and a little WWF in it.
Have you got time to put your *ears* on after the game?
momona and d1 . . .
You are both correct. Still, to take it so late when it was offered earlier in the year . . . I hope he already has a qualifying minimum score from earlier attempts and is just trying to raise his score!
Again, good luck to Lagafuaina!
I understand about the SAT’s, but if an athlete already has a qualifying score acceptable to the school, why take it again. Kids take it again for better scores to get into a school of their choice, in this case, the school wants him and if he has a passing score, that’s it, doesn’t have to be a high score, just passing the minimum acceptable.
Dunachie, Waldsworth and Alo played as true frosh
Keomaka and Keao also started a few games as true frosh.
Spencer Smith was could have played anytime as a true frosh.
Did Vince Manuwai play as a true frosh?
Where’s Doris, PIAA, is he a qualifier?
Was John Estes a true impact player as a freshman, or did he redshirt his first year? How about Ingram?
Ralph – I would like to think that they would take it again to get a better score for personal reasons. That would show the character of the kid.
But maybe, I’m just dillusional.
Ralph,
The worst you gonna get from Doris is…”projected qualifier”
As for re-taking the SAT, imagine a HS Senior weighing the option:
“go beach” or retake the SAT;
“sleep late” or wake up early to retake the SAT;
“hang with my friends” or go in to school for a half a day to retake the SAT.
…additionally, IIRC from the parent meetings for SAT prep classes, January is one of the harder scored exams to take.
I’m going with common sense. He is PRESENTLY taking the SAT because he PRESENTLY is not a qualifier.
Oh Minnesota…
Ball on the ground… Ball on the ground… Lookin like a fool with the ball on the ground!!!
Yeah Kazz, but dey still stay tied!
Al- Your dog is UNREAL!!!!
Momona you’re a perfectionist or a purist, guys like me are happy just to gain the average SAT score for the school of choice
arf.
ajoe….nakoa (my dog) wants to know when you gonna bring him his bone?
Who dat!?!?!
Who dis?
Saints win………….oh my 🙁
Can Favre write off that pick as a charitable donation to the Saints??? Oh no… More Favre drama in the offseason again?!?!????
A prospect needs to take the SAT in order to go on a recruiting trip.
As for “qualifying” score, that’s not known until the school year is over.
There’s a sliding scale based on the correlation between the cumulative GPA and an SAT score. The cumulative GPA is not known until a person completes his studies. You can project what the ratio will be, but there’s nothing definitive until later.
So why not keep taking the test over and over?
This all goes back to my point that signing day should be in April, not in February.
afternoon to all who just finished watching a good game between saints and vikings. to bad someone had to lose.
corrected
By the way, I’ve seen some get puffed up about predictions that really aren’t gutsy predictions.
Like someone who says: Wisconsin will beat UH.
And then does the chest bump.
Well, duh.
I mean, gee, why not boast about pro-wrestling predictions?
Now if somebody said: SMU will blow out Nevada.
That’s a gutsy prediction.
looks like a fun week, then comes the hard part, are they qualified????
Saints #22:
After the interception, with 7 seconds in the game, why did he not try and run the ball for a TD?
It appeared that he had a clear lane down the right sideline, but he opted to run into the center of the field and take a slide as though he thought they were winning rather than tied game. Did I just imagine what I saw/thought?
jm2375:
I like your idea of allowing the mid-major conferences more scholarships each year to counter balance the BCS money schools.
100 is a nice round number!
Aloha from the Windy City. Spent the late afternoon yelling for ST’s Jets. Then watched the terrific NFC championship just now. Ten o’clock news is on and Chicago’s NBC5 is taking a look at the “25th Anniversary of the Super Bowl Shuffle.” Oh brothers…I guess that’s what happens when you’re not even close to the Super Bowl: reminisce about the good ‘ole days.
If the BCS were interested in fairness, it wouldn’t have the current setup.
It’s all about money, and the so-called major conferences don’t want to share.
I’d rather see a better division of profits from the NCAA basketball tournament. How about the I-A football schools receiving the lion’s share? I really think the schools with the bigger sports programs — like USC, North Carolina, Hawaii — should receive a bigger payout than Saint John’s or UC Irvine.
Nah… .schools with the greatest diversity of ethnic groups and minorities in athletics should get the lion share of all NCAA profits.
Add to that a few dollars per mile for the total miles from the point of origination of each athlete.
A-house – #165 – wasn’t my idea, it was McTruck’s (#84).
So, ST, you wanna see the FBS schools get a bigger payout from March Madness? Isn’t it given out by conference based on how many and how far their teams went? So, what would you do with the Big East, where at least half the schools are FCS (or lower) in football?
#159 ST
I agree, too much wiggle room for everyone, everything in the air……but such is the NCAA…..No Can Articulate Anyway…… haha
My Vikes lose. Damn. But how can anyone not be excited for the saints?
A-Joe — All is well in the homeland brother. Not in Kaumana anymore, but was up there for the game today. Ka’u? Same. Beautiful God’s country.
Re Brashton’s graduation: There must be something dealing with the NCAA counts or something like that that I’m not seeing. I work as an adviser at UH-Hilo. I offered that thought of he postponing his graduation because I see students do it all the time. They apply to graduate in the fall and then defer their graduation to the spring or later in order to finish a minor or certificate. I wonder if he being on a scholarship had anything to do with he being “required” to graduate. Because if not, it surely seems like he could have avoided the current hit to next year’s scholly class by simply choosing not to graduate…..just yet.
BIK
Bigislandkurt Always good to hear your insights. Next time you’re in town, we go to one Tsaiko Cattle Call. Malama pono, my braddah.
Wasn’t there also a possibility that Brashton was going to go pro despite the injury? Or what if something goes wrong and he doesn’t get the 6th year? In either case he’s better off with the degree because no one (even the NCAA) can take that away from him. I’m happy to see anyone earn their degree. The rule is the problem.
Guapo, it wasn’t like he wasn’t going to get the degree. All classes done, all requirements met. It would just be about delaying the confirmation of the degree. He was going to get the degree either way. Postponing the actual CONFIRMATION of the degree would only be to secure the scholly count. But you bring up a good point. He really didn’t know what was going to happen as the 6th year ruling was not a given.
Ajoe……yes brother, you know I one Na’alehu bradduh. I lived right by the dairy….cattle calls are just up my alley!
BIK
It is my perception that one’s perception on coaches overlooking recruits is based on one’s perception of Coach Mack and his staff. Since none of us really knows all the facts one’s perception is just that, and that perception may be unjustified. Let’s call a spade a spade, besides ST, no one here really knows what’s going on, and anyone claiming otherwise is full of it. That’s just perception.
so what Stephen is stating is that players with borderline grades in HS and SAT, their qualification won’t be known until after school is out, and their scores are predicated on a sliding scale. Same with the JUCO guys, those who have to finish summer school with an AA degree, before they can officially enter and play for UH. Do the JUCO guys need a GPA of 2.8 along with their degree to enter UH, HS applicants require a GPA of 2.8, along with SAT, etc. with exceptions, maybe a sliding scale with the GPA, SAT or ACT.
http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/tag/_/name/programs-of-decade-100121
Looking at the top programs this decade, it would be tough to find a program that even comes close to the dominance Boise State has shown since joining the WAC in 2001.
And while Boise State is the headliner for the non-AQ, there have been several programs this decade that have made their marks on the coalition of five conferences and the Independents. Below are the top non-AQ programs of the decade:
1. Boise State: The Broncos joined the WAC in 2001 and have been building a dynasty ever since. They’ve won seven conference titles and two Fiesta Bowls, had two undefeated seasons, four one-loss seasons and haven’t lost more than four games in any year.
2. TCU: The Horned Frogs have had just one losing season this decade and seven seasons of 10 or more wins. They were undefeated this regular season and played in their first BCS bowl. They’ve won four conference titles and have been the nation’s top defense four seasons this decade.
3. Utah: The Utes are one of only two non-AQ teams to post two undefeated seasons and play in two BCS bowls. They’ve had just two losing seasons this decade and haven’t had one since 2003. Since 2003, the Utes have had double-digit wins four times.
4. Hawaii: Under head coach June Jones, Hawaii was one of the most consistent teams in the WAC. From 2001-07, the Warriors had just one losing season. It went undefeated in 2007 and played in the school’s first BCS bowl game.
5. Navy: After struggling during the first two years of this decade, Navy started a streak of at least eight wins in every season since. Included in that streak are two wins over Notre Dame, the first since 1963, and two of the school’s three 10-win seasons.
And one more thing, from reading the article on recruiting by Coach Mack. UH does not give open ended offers period, to anyone.
BS as number 3? Alabama and Ohio State ranked higher.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=schlabach_mark&id=4804655
3. Boise State Broncos
Voters won’t have a reason to keep the Broncos out of the Citi BCS National Championship Game in 2010. Boise State finished its second unbeaten season and won its second BCS bowl game in four years by beating TCU 17-10 in the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. The Broncos will bring back 21 of 22 starters on offense and defense, losing only star cornerback Kyle Wilson. Quarterback Kellen Moore will be a Heisman Trophy candidate. Boise State will have two chances to prove its mettle to voters: at home against Oregon State on Sept. 25 and against Virginia Tech at FedEx Field in Landover, Md., on Oct. 2.
re#143….sorry, have been so busy with getting NLI day all set up, I havent been on often.
Yes, Lawrence is a qualifier.
#146…projected qualifier means on track to qualify based on current GPA, and if they’ve taken the SAT maybe they need to re-take.
back to work, making the seating chart which will have many changes between now and Feb 3.
thanks Doris.
What a day!
Time for nitey nite!
Sweet NLI Day Dreams!
Doris,
Thank you for the updates! I know that this time of year must be crazy for you and that you’ll feel a sense of relief after your PIAA NLI day event.
Another thing to consider about Brashton is that the NCAA requires sufficient progress towards a degree in the APR computation. So, if Brashton didn’t graduate after this 5th year, that could have cost UH in the APR and maybe UH would lose a scholarship if that happened too many times. However, I guess it might have been better if Brashton didn’t graduate until the Spring…but he might have had to try for the NFL if he wasn’t going to get his 6th year and he wouldn’t have been around in the spring in that case.
When you consider that UH seems to have a number of players each year that try for a 6th year and the Warriors want all players to take summer school, it stands to reason that some Warriors will graduate early. Normally December graduates are great for UH because they free up scholarships for mid-year transfers. However, in a case where a player comes back for a 6th year that could hurt UH instead of help.
After UH gets sufficient depth due to having more high school recruits (I’m happy with all the high school commits recently), then the 25 initial requirement won’t be the problem and the 85 total scholarships will be the limit. When that is the case, situations like Brashton’s won’t matter.
Many schools are limited by the 85 scholarships instead of the 25 initials, so this situation would never come up for them. For example, BSU lost so little seniors this year that they might take less than 10 recruits this year…but they are going for high quality ones.
kgmb will feature liz chun now on tv
What ever your disposition, I have a hard time respecting anyone who calls Tsai a booty kisser. Is that the best you can do in communicating your opinion?
Further more what do you have to say about the fact that UH is considered to have the best recruiting class in the WAC this year?
Do you care that you might be wrong in your assumptions and may be hurting UH’s recruiting?
HOYA SAXA on big monday, espn at 2 pm, replay on ESPNU at 8 pm, JMxxx set your DVR. Syracuse is favored.
is hauoli jamora feeling better these days?
Florida Ted, you are in our thoughts!
Hauoli Jamora… get well!
night all…
I suppose then, 85 divided by 5 = 17 per year… So the ideal scholarship ratio in a perfect world might seem to be: 17 gray shirts.. 17 redshirts…17 freshman, 17 sophmore, 17 juniors, and 17 seniors.
But a better scenario may be something like 14 gray, 14, redshirt, 16 fresh, 17 soph, 19 juniors and 20 seniors. (Higher numbers in the upper classes due to JC transfers to fill in gaps due to transfers and injuries, as well as to grant scholarships to deserving walk-ons).
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A great Monday morning to all!
Shucks, the Viks lost. Thought with Farve they might finally beat the curse.
Oh well.
Early night for everyone?
Three more wake ups to go. A three day weekend. Then the downhill side of the school year begins.
Whoo-hoo!!!
200!
Re Post 178:
ESPN’s College Nation Blog picked the top 10 Coaches of the Decade from non-auto-qualifying schools, Top 5 were Chris Petersen Boise, Gary Patterson TCU, Urban Meyer Utah, Paul Johnson Navy, and June Jones Hawaii/SMU. Dan Hawkins Boise, and Pat Hill Fresno State, also make the list.
#189 Eh, YOU no make:
– Hawaii best recruiting class in the WAC ?
You’re kidding right, dude, it’s time to get off the pipe.
– My assumptions wrong ?
You’re kidding again right, to be honest, I do NOT work with assumptions, don’t believe in them, don’t have time for them, don’ have the patience for them. I only speak on what I know, NEVER what is assumed.
Have a good day
Good morning
have a productive day. UH walk ons day of reckoning, waiting for ‘the call’. Good luck to one and all
Great Morning All!
Anybody seen whitey?
Have a terrific day erryboddy!
HiHo…
too bad there’s no ignore option on this blog. got someone in mind already…
For some reason Bulla? I’m not worried. The phone should ring at any time now and then PARTY time at La Casa Da Bulla!
Vog again?!
Good Morning gangeez! 🙂
i was really expecting to hear some early news about this weekend’s recruits.
no news is not good news in this business.
WR Kaelin Clay has committed to Cal and looks like VJ Feheko has pretty much narrowed his choices between Utah and Utah State.
but then, you already know that.
i guess “slam dunk” wr did go visit cal with a purpose.
AND with Luke Ingram and Bryant Moniz counting as 2010 recruits, it will be interesting to see how it all works out.
Mahalo for your kind words regarding Saturn The Dog’s unexpected death this past Friday. Would someone like his custom-made dog house? One of DrDoc’s contractor clients built it in exchange for accounting/tax work.
Am going to do some checking about the turf replacement project at Aloha Stadium since there seems to be an inconsistency between earlier announcements as to the start date, the return of the Pro Bowl, and the balance of the funding.
Also, there’s an interesting item on the City Council’s Wednesday Public Hearing Agenda which deals with the University of Hawai`i and its facilities – including all the lower campus athletic sites. Need to do some research on the proposal because I really don’t understand the reason why the City’s getting involved in what happens at state facilities.
Stephen – perhaps you can sic The Fourth Estate upon DaPowersDatBeto find out wassup.
Another busy day – have a productive one.
If we get 6th years for all the players applying, we will end up with the following in each class…
Seniors 35
Juniors 28 + 2 (Siaki Cravens and London Sapolu JC transfers)
Soph 19 – no redshirt years available
Redshirt to Freshman 15
Grayshirt to Freshman 5 (Redshirt year still available)
incoming Freshmen… 23 with 5 years to play 4 and grayshirt option.
mih….did your post #210 just appear out of no where?
i swear it wasn’t there a moment ago.
not including any new walk-ons
mih….so you aren’t believing that rumor that vj is visiting this coming weekend???
Good morning Tsaikos. Been “undercover”, so back to lurking.
al,
I thought your #211 was in response to my 210.. which I thought was a pretty fast reply.. cause when I refreshed it was already there.
Insofar as VJ is concerned, I’m don’t know anymore. From all the internet chatter, it sure sounds like he’s already decided to go to one of the two Utes.
If he does visit, it will all depend on what UH offers… gray shirt? red shirt? or fore go the two incoming options?
When is/did the Utah coach make/making a home visit to VJ? This weekend or was it last weekend?
must have posted within seconds of each other.
whitey….pls clarify.
were you under the covers or undercover?
there’s a glariing difference between the two.
when you “undercover”, you cannot say anything more cause if you do, you not “undercover” anymore. does that make sense???? sometimes “meds” do strange things to brain.
of course, no take much to make my brain go off course.
last minute wish list, rb and ot from fullerton jc sign with warriors!!!! hooooooooyeah!!!! that would be something.
Okay.. looks like the Aggie coach is planning a visit to VJ this Friday.
http://blogs.sltrib.com/usu/index.php?p=9940&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
Jeeze.. the countdown started yesterday….just 9 more days to LOI day.
Howzit whitey, al and mih!
I too thought that VJ was very “iffy”.
Morning DPK.
#202, I would agree with you.
This years recruiting class sukz bigtime.
ouch, the beancounters and koolaid sippers are out in force–all 6 of them, including Mr Misotsaikoyaki.
whitey….just getting one of those fullerton boys would be nice.
dpk….i am thinking vj is going to utah state and i am thinking we have enough olb’s.
they must be brothers.
Good morning gang….hope all is well.
Just wanted to again ask for your thoughts and prayers for my mom.
Although she is healing quite well and they actually have her walking around 5 steps now, part of her incision on her lower back isn’t healing as well as the MDs would like and they want to go in and clean and restitch the area. The procedure is supposed to only take about 20 minutes or so but they have to do it under general anesthesia so there is always a risk….
Anyway, we all know how the power of prayer works so I am asking once again for your indulgence.
Thanks….now, I have to get back to work. Talk to you guys later.
you got it my monarch brother and wishing all turn out well. keep us posted on her progress
morning gang!
continued thoughts and prayers for (J)J’s mom
Prayers for your mom, (J)J.
You too Florida Ted!
Jamora.. hope you’re feeling better.
Prayers for your mom (Jesse) James.
Prayers for your mom and you to (Jesse) James.
a TEXAS size prayer for JJ’s momma.
prayers of healing for your mother!
#202 en #230
Just what a few 18 19 year olds want to hear, “Eh you suck” you both need to put yourselves in their shoes.
Pomai…
Some are only 17 going on 18. Phew.. big decision for these young athletes.
very true mr. pomai.
sounds like somebody never played a sport or was involved in the recruit process.
(J)J – Thy Will Be Done.
…..your mom has/is always on prayer request list.
you take care, too, my brother.
I have a good feeling about this coming season, like maybe 11 an 2. The one that I am worried about is Colorado, I see us getting a good start with beating USC.
Eh Al,
Not only do I question if they where athletes or where part of the recruiting process, I also question if they are parents. I know if someone said my son sucked at something that he was actually pretty good at, I would be knocking down peoples doors.
Pretty crazy statement if you ask me.
And just to let you know this got nothing to do with being a koolaid drinker or a beancounter, this is real life. I just hope for these guys sake none of the parents of the recruits find out the real indentities of these goofs cause I would feel real bad for them.
And that you can say nuff said too.
sorry forgot to send out my morning alojah’s to tsaiko county especiall pride, al, hawnbod (how you bruddah, pomai, mih , loa and mctruck
you’all have a good day whether its working, relaxing, lurking or chasing a white ball somewhere
personally agree with those who stated these are youngings (18 & 19) leave dem alone and just wish them well in their endeavors. remember back and visualize the mistakes you made at that age.
James: Prayers for your mom coming from Kaupe’a. There are more of us taking care of our parents now days. We do the best we can for them. You are the ‘good’ son, and we pray for your health as well.
Florida Ted: You are in my daily thoughts and prayers as we’ve built a kinship with yoiu as members of this rag tag group of Tsaiko’s. Please keep your focus on getting well. We miss your input on the blog.
Good luck to all of the Walk-Ons for 2010.
Best of luck to the UH recruiting staff, “close the deal”
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