Change of pace
The Warriors’ weekly scrimmage goes on hiatus for a week.
Instead of practicing today, as they have on past Mondays, the Warriors will work only on conditioning drills and lifting sessions today.
The intent is twofold: 1) It’s late in the season and there are numerous injuries; and 2) it’s a change-up from the usual practice schedule.
The Warriors will have a full, physical practice tomorrow.
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What we got from Inside Access was Chow’s unwavering support for Sean Schroeder. While everyone saw what Jeremy Higgins can bring to the game, Coach Chow remains steadfast in his decision. What he refuses to acknowledge are the fans. Right now he needs to put on his public relations and marketing hats. He is losing the fan base. And if his product for 2013 fails once again to capture the enthusiasm from the fan base, he will go down as the worse head coach for the Hawaii football team. I hate to see this happen. Coach Chow is a local. We don’t want this season to be his legacy.
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Wow, top 5 again. Yea, saw that also. As much as I may disagree with that steadfast position, I support the fact that he is the coach and he is responsible for the outcome of those decisions. He knows that and has stated it in the past. If the administration and fans don’t like it they can make the change (to paraphrase).
change of pace is good – fast break em
Watching some of the top teams play on television, I come to realize that on defense they have something that we have not had for as long as I can remember: A very large, athletic, space eating defense tackle.
That person makes a heck of a difference in how successful one’s defense is. I am not saying that’s the only or main thing, but as an important piece, having one or two is such a huge difference maker in having consistent defensive success.
Anyone on the horizon we’re going after can fill this “job opening”?
ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
Our whole society and culture is about change. Some embrace it, others see it as a temporary distraction. But belief in what is right is more often very much a steadfast situation…like religion, either you have it or you don’t, no matter what the evidence.
Go Warriors!
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Tired of beating a dead horse. I do not believe Dr. Chow will waiver from his goal to instill his system into the team. Every practice, game and session is focused on this. Recruiting is focused on locating capable young men willing to go to UH. He will play the best available at each position for his scheme.
Upper campus needs to focus on fixing all the shortcomings of facilities and admin support needed in this 5 year plan.
If this is stubborn, it is a trait born on years of experience which he brought to the interview table and was approved and signed by Manoa’s execs. To waiver from this process now would be surrendering to public opinion, something I do not forsee for at least two more years.
I am not approving or disapproving of this logic. This is simply my observation.
Someone set this into motion and it does not show any of the former ADs fingerprints.
I hope UH football will survive this tumultuous time and we will succeed. Until then I will continue to support the Warriors by attending games and hoping and praying for the best.
GOOD MORNING HAWAII!
Don’t forget to vote tomorrow.
I Voted early 🙂
I get to watch da boys play on Saturday, good luck warriors!
Give ‘um hell boyz!
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It is my understanding that the previous AD wanted another HC but the Upper Campus and the money people downtown wanted Coach Chow.
So the fingerprints are strictly those people and not that of Jim Donovan.
In order for Coach Chow to do the job that the Upper Campus/Moneybags had envisioned, they MUST give him the tools to do that job, namely fix up and improve the facilities, if not blowing up the building(s) and building up-to-date facilities, increase the budget and stop hoping for high class results on the cheap. This means $$$.
If the Upper Campus/Moneybags do not, they cannot expect miracles, no matter who is the coach.
Good morning Tsaikos!!!
Hope all have a great day!!!
UH’s statistical rankings: 104th passing (188.1 per game), 109th rushing (114 per game), 107th points scored (20.3 per game), 122nd points given up (42.6 per game). in summary, UH can’t throw, can’t run, can’t score, and have the worst defense in the nation.
if mack wasn’t so hard headed and allowed rolo to modify/evolve the offense like he wanted to (multiple backs, tight ends) this team wouldn’t be THE WORST IN THE NATION.
mack and chow are examples of the saying “you can’t teach an old dog new tricks.” the cement has dried and they are set in their ways. that doesn’t work in football, the game has been evolving since it was invented.
chow is doing the exact same thing that fred did, but UH will win a few games next year (if graham is qb). without blue chips, you need to be “out of the box”. what is UH’s gimmick? chow would be a lot more successful at UH if he brings back the “pass happy times” of the rns, not necessarily the rns, but just pass, pass, pass, pass, and pass some more with a little run. balance sucks if you can’t pass and you can’t run.
simple math: qb completes only 50% of his passes, then you need to throw more to get more completions.
passing the ball gives smaller teams a chance (e.g. castle beats kahuku, iolani beats st louis).
The most frustrating part is that this team could be exactly where they are but show signs of improving week to week we could look ahead to what can happen with more time and experience. However unless you dig deep and look between the lines you can’t see that they have improved any, if at all, from the start of the season.
Great Monday Morning! Top twenny!
Go Warriors!
Did anyone watch the UCLA/Arizona game on saturday night?Jeff Ulbrich went vili style on the sidelines. http://coachingsearch.com/component/content/article/1636-photo-ucla-assistants-wear-face-paint-in-blowout-win.html
What a season. What a debacle
Praying Mike Edwards’ MRI goes well today…
Worst part about everything is we hear the same excuses….
1. Rebuilding. Team is young.
2. We are learning a new system.
1. That is bullS%$&t. People said we were young last year. If anything, our O line has more experience than last year. Our WRs are the same WRs we had last year. Our RBs are the same RBs we had last year. Defensively, We did lose some beef up front but at some point you have to expect replacements to fill in for players that graduated. Or every team would use the excuse of losing players. I don’t recall any past UH defense letting QBs have career rushing days against us.
2. Who cares about new system. Fresno learned a new system. Does that mean Carr and all those WRs look like crap because they learn something new? Penn St has a bunch of stars leave the program while learning a new system and are playing at a high level. Teams learn new systems all the time and don’t look half as bad as we do in any system. We still need to block, Throw accurate passes, and catch the ball.
Do we lack talent? Yes. We failed to recruit play makers under Mack. Should we be this bad because of talent? No. We had more talent on the field than Colorado St and New Mexico. New Mexico had a safety that was 5-5 starting and we could not expose him. We had a 4th and goal at 5. needed a few inches. No Nose tackles playing over the Center and we dont sneak.
We are entering Von Appen repeat. Hate to say it but a solid recruiting class this year isnt going to save the program. A bunch of freshmen and soph starting can only do so much.
Good morning everyone!
Monday, Monday…
@tommui Some people get it! Now we’ll see what card they play for a new AD. I think the team would have shown progress if injuries had been avoided. Injuries exposed one of our major weaknesses – Depth. OL & DL depth have hurt us in years past, regardless of the HC.
Facilities, Training Table, Off-season programs build 6’4″ 230# OLs and DLs into 6″6″ 300# Behemoths.
Go Dr. Chow keep collecting those recruiting tapes!
The football alumni series continues with Karl Kleinkopf. Kleinkopf was an offensive tackle on the 1968 and 1969 teams which went 13-6-1.
http://www.nakoa.org/2012/11/football-alumni-karl-kleinkopf/
What happened to patience and understanding? We all knew that it wouldn’t happen right away. Icuave seen pockets
plays that make me have hope. I do think the Coach Chow should perhaps sit SS
A couple of sets and let him watch from the sidelines, get a breather and himself together
because it seems that the more he gets hit the more that he seems to hold the ball longer
Wow. Watched Chow on Inside Access just to hear him say it. You can tell Chow doesn’t really believe what he’s saying. He’s just saying it because *he backed himself into a corner* and is too big a *coward* to admit his mistake. Chow can’t even look Kekaula in the face and say it.
Chow, eyes averted, eyes shifting, feet fidgeting (paraphrased): It’s Schroeder, Schroeder, Schroeder until god knocks Schroder out of the game so I have an excuse to replace him with (insert ____ name here).
Pathetic.
25. Patience doesn’t include taking steps backwards as the season moves along. When your team is getting worse every single week, throw patience out of the window. I can care less about the losses. But when a team isn’t competitive, it’s straight out embarrassing and you start feeling bad for the players who have to go through it. Our coaches are putting our guys in position to not succeed.
What kind of message do you send to your team when you get blown out almost every week and coaches are too stubborn to make changes or adjustments? Players start to doubt what they been told and working for.
I know as a defender, I would like to see a spark on the offense and knowing coaches are just gonna throw SS out there, it would just show coaches aren’t willing to try something new.
The shocking thing is the passing offense. Now we are on the bottom, in past years Hawaii was a good bet to be in the top 10 under JJ and most of the Mack/Rolo era. As bad as the scoring defense (worst in the country) is, statistically it doesn’t look as bad. We are ranked 15th in passing defense and 95th in rushing defense. What has happend is that our offense is not scoring enough to complement the defense and special teams. Our turnover ratio is very bad and that’s another reason why we are getting blown out too. Let’s call a spade a spade. The QB performance is terrible and therein is the problem. If we had good QB play we could have won both at least the New Mexico and Colorado St. game for sure.
And note, the Atlanta Falcons are 8-0 with new offensive line coach, Pat Hill, and new Offensive Coordinator, Dirk Koetter. That same Dirk Koetter who was in the top tier of Head Coach candidates at Hawaii. That same Dirk Koetter who did can excellent job at Boise St. who parlayed that success to get the job at Arizona State. That same Dirk Koetter who did a good job at ASU and took them to the Sheraton Hawaii Bowl against Hawaii and Colt Brennan and then lost his job for not winnikng enough. Say this about Koetter, he’s got a very good offensive scheme and he’s very creative. Did UH make a mistake in choosing Norm Chow? Let the debate rage on. I say old school football won’t do it in the 21st century. We need younger blood, risk takers, high energy guys, creative on offense, spread the field, and athletic skill playmakers. Remember this name: Hugh Freeze.
He’s the first year Head Coach at Mississippi. He’s going to be terrific. Great offensive playcalling. Another very good coach is Butch Jones at Cincinnati. He’s not nationally well known but he’s a very good. He followed Brian Kelly at Central Michigan and at Cincy when Kelly good the job at N. Dame.
#23 if UH had players that worked half as hard as richard torres did, they would look like boise state. the problem is the players lack the necessary drive off the field that will get them to be better on the field. 2 years ago kealoha pilares (200 lb wr/rb) was THE STRONGEST PLAYER on the team. nothing new. several years back brad kalilimoku (205 lb lb/s) was the strongest player on the team.
they lack facilities overall yes. but they still got a damn good weight room. go jump in the pool if you need a shower. there is some sort of training table for the scholarship players. all football players can get free protein shakes when they workout. AND tommy h. puts out a good strength and conditioning program. it all comes down to the players. are the players making improvements in the weight room, probably not. the effort to improve comes from each player. as a whole, there is not a lot of effort. UH should hold a “bench your body weight” contest every year. i was at 60+ reps, probably is better than 98% of the team.
And I don’t blame Chow either. Imagine the repercussions if Higgins actually turned Hawaii’s offense around. By around, I don’t mean dominant, just competent.
Coach, why didn’t you try Higgins earlier?
Chow: Because Sean was da man in 3 practices and 3 practices deserves 12 starts.
28. Big mistake. Even if Norm had a few average years, its not like he’s young enough to be here for the long haul. Would much prefer Koetter or a coach who has had recent success the way the game is evolving.
We are not Alabama and we will never get Alabama type players so it only makes sense to put your offense in the best possible way to succeed.
It would be like Kaiser high school trying to run a pro style offense going against Kahuku. We all know what the out come will be.
You wonder why teams like Leilehua are always playing for a championship. Coaching understands how to get their best play makers the ball in space. Find miss matches.
We need to spread our offense out and get our best play makers the football. If that means TE used to block more for now for protection, so be it. Still gives us 3 WRs out in space and RB as hot read. So many more ways to be creative then what we have been seeing.
If we try running this pro style offense against Boise D, expect 0 Tds.
Just waiting for news that DeWayne Walker gets his walking papers. NMSU needs to terminate so they can initiate a national search ASAP, especially since they’re going independent in football.
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Koetter? Ugh. Do you even know what happened at ASU with Koetter in charge? Rape. Murder. Mayhem. I’m not making this up. Google it. I wanted Chow based on the Manoa’s shortlist. Question is, why was the shortlist so short? Nobody should ever have to consider someone like Koetter to run a college program again. Even a program as remote & financially disadvantaged as Hawaii.
Dino Babers doin pretty good at Eastern Illinois.
Shroeder’s situation reminds me of a person that asked Terry Bradshaw, “Whats the worst thing that could happen to a QB?”.
Bradshaw replied, “He loses his confidence.”
Schroeder may have a the football IQ, but I think he lacks confidence, which is understandable considering the way the season is going.
33. I would like to think a coach like Koetter is competent enough to learn from prior past experiences on how to handle off the field trouble. At least we know he can coach a offense. Crap like that can happen at any school. Happened to Urban Meyer at Florida and I don’t think Meyer is a bad at handling his players. Les Miles has off the field troubles with his guys and can’t always control off the field issues.
I would like to think the environment in Hawaii would allow incidents like that to be minimal.
Some on this blog have said that players on the 2011 team had no talent. Let’s compare 3 games:
2011: Nevada 42 UH 28
2012: Nevada 69 UH 24
2011: Fresno 24 UH 21
2012: Fresno 45 UH 10
2011: BYU 41 UH 20
2012: BYU 47 UH 0
It seems to me that UH did a lot better in 2011 against Nevada, Fresno, and BYU. All 3 games were played after Moniz got injured in the first quarter of the Nevada game on Nov 12. Shane Austin went in to replace him. Austin had not seen much game time. On Nov 26, 2011, UH beat Tulane 35-23.
Chris Tormey had the same problem at Nevada with disruptive players. One of the reasons why he was fired by Ault.
Is the UH the university of second chances for head coaches that have a problem instilling discipline in his players?
gobows, the problem with the general preparedness of the players is two fold.
One, is that player weaknesses are not being addressed, and have not been for a very long time. Mobility is probably the most poorly enhanced capacity. The training program has resulted in many players making little or no progress for 2-3 years at a time. Its not the 1 or 2 exceptions that should be looked it, its the majority. The players largely do what they are told to do and the summer attendance has been very high the last few years.
Two, this year the coaching staff has taken over the conditioning program. The prescriptions are entirely outside of the needs for the sporting task. Players have gotten weaker, slower and less powerful because of the over-prescription of volume.
Lastly, the nutrition provisions for the players are wholly unsatisfactory. The coaches acknowledge this but there is not much that can be done. The players on campus in particular do not get enough to eat because their meal plans are the same as the regular students. The result, as I say, is weaker, slower, lighter and less powerful players.
Its not a hard work thing, its a smart work thing. Players are pushed until they vomit, a stupid sadistic training methodology.
FYI. Wahine WVB up 2 notches (from #9 to #7) in this week’s AVCA Coaches Poll [ www. t.co/6P3UfPO ]
#36 I don’t get the fixation with Koetter. Happy for Koetter that he’s succeeding as an NFL asst. Von Appen won 2 x Super Bowls as a 9er asst. too. What’s the point? To me, Koetter is history, old news. I don’t like what I’m seeing from Chow but if/when the time comes to replace him, Manoa will hopefully have better, stronger leadership to find real gems, not retreads or tired “names” looking for a comeback.
#31 thanks for the tip.
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#39 Really. The thing with Koetter is he had a direct hand in forgiving eventual killers/rapists/miscreants who should’ve been punished & banished for earlier pilikia. Koetter was sued for doing that. And so was ASU because of Koetter. Hawaii doesn’t need it.
strange….. no Chicken Grease today.
Penn State – scandal ridden program. Players bailed to other schools. No bowl game for ?? years. Packed stadium.
Old School Dave…
For Penn State you gotta look at the Football culture to truly understand what transpired. There was no one in the upper campus bureaucracy that would have pulled the plug for fear of falling out of favor with the public and State. So rabid were the fans about football that it paralyzed the admin. The football players and coaches could do no wrong.
It’s pretty much that way at the top tier institutions. If we could get half way there, we’d be contenders. That Sugar bowl year, we got close and the bureaucracy were on scrambling at the end.
If QB ss is the best QB during practice and get all this game experience but not showing improvement in passing or running the offense,why Higgins who is not the best QB@ practice with no game experience for this year but manage to move the offense and scored ??
And yet Penn State still packs their stadium.
HOW COME THERE WUZENT AN OFFER TO MATCH 2-3 YRS OF WAITING WITH PATIENCE FOR A NEW PROGRAM TO DEVELOP WITH SOME KIND OF POSTPONEMENT OR REDUCTION IN TICKET PRICES? FAIR IS FAIR.
I wouldn’t mind giving the next HC job to a young and hungry OC who is thriving. I know everyone will say Rolo but I don’t think Rolo can recruit. My only issue.
We had a chance to get Cody Fajardo and we didn’t offer him. Which is the QB Rolo is working with now. Considering his eye was on players like Justin Alo, Ikaika Woolsey, David Graves, Kevin Spain, etc, he wouldn’t be my 1st choice. I think he would make a great OC though.
I would love a style similar to Kevin Sumlin. No matter who his QB is, QB always thrives. He finds a system that suits his QB. Tweaks it. Johnny Football is much different than Case Keenam. Hopefully we can hire one of their coaches who knows the system and we can run a high up tempo offense.
chow is really being hardheaded about changing the QB, nothing will be lost but everything to gain. continuing with Sean there will be more losses, and he will not be the number one QB next year as graham would likely be. there was a reason why sean did not see any playing time his whole 3 years at Duke. Yet, he is proclaimed by chow as the best QB we have, this is very hard to understand. i can see if Sean is seen as the future QB so he is taking his lumps now, but don’t think so. nothing against Sean, he tries his best and is a tough cookie, but it appears his best is not enough to win games. really the decision is chow’s but he appears to be digging his demise. changing the way you practice, how you travel, etc. are not the remedy. it is the personnel who are leading the team. we have to find someone who can be more successful than Sean, chow may not think so, but there really no hurt in trying.
chow is really being hardheaded about changing the QB, nothing will be lost but everything to gain. continuing with Sean there will be more losses, and he will not be the number one QB next year as graham would likely be. there was a reason why sean did not see any playing time his whole 3 years at Duke. Yet, he is proclaimed by chow as the best QB we have, this is very hard to understand. i can see if Sean is seen as the future QB so he is taking his lumps now, but don’t think so. nothing against Sean, he tries his best and is a tough cookie, but it appears his best is not enough to win games. really the decision is chow’s but he appears to be digging his demise. changing the way you practice, how you travel, etc. are not the remedy. it is the personnel who are leading the team. we have to find someone who can be more successful than Sean, chow may not think so, but there really no hurt in trying.
Aloha Kakahiaka!
I don’t care who the coach is at this point…
DO NOT HURT THE KIDS.
THIS IS NOT WAR. IT IS COLLEGE.
Happy Monday… Looking forward to next weekend in Tsai-ko land… and Softball/Basketball/Football!
GO WARRIORS/WAHINE/ *.BOWS!
#47 & #50. Yes, we saw State College at its finest, i.e., Emmert is Lucifer, Jesus Mary & St. Joe, “We did nothing wrong,” “What’s the big deal about child rape?”. Did you expect different?
Kind of reminds of termite tackle in a way were the coach sticks with his starting QB which part of reason is because the QB is coach son.Come on chow!!lets see what the other QBs can do in real game situations.You would never know unless you throw them in the fire!!Really, what do we got to lose-well keep goin the same rout we might lose some backup QBs at the end of season!!In my opinion.
#48 Exactly. Except as much as Warrior fans crave success, true ohana still maintains its compass. Example: sure, the Cult of Colt lives on; but more fans no longer excuse or enable Colt’s persistent disregard for others thru unfiltered worship.
If the State of Hawaii did not see fit to improve/build/renovate the Athletic Facilities after JJ left what makes you think that they will do so in this bad economy? Outside of big donors providing the cash, it ain’t going to happen. Wer’e a mid-major with a limited shoestring budget. We were blessed when we got invited to the BCS Sugar Bowl.
#40 HawkPeter,
What is your football training background that you can properly diagnose the players? Have you coached? Played? You make some very detailed observations.
The team needs to back to basics. Learn how to tackle and block. They’re already in good shape.
#40 @ Hawkpeter,
You are spot on with why we are not improving . . . we are getting weaker, slower and physically beat on archaic methods of training at practice. And Coach repeatedly states he doesn’t know what else to do. He is physically breaking down his players during the football season.
If Cody Fajardo accepted a scholarship to Hawaii, he would be in the same position as David Graves. Besides, Fajardo wanted to be closer to home (Cali) and having the oportunity to learn from Kaepernick made it even more inviting.
What interesting, if Graves didn’t decommit from Nevada he would be starting for the Pack and Fajardo would be at SJSU starting rather than David Fales. Or he could have possible ended up at UNLV starting instead of Nick Sherry.
Funny how things happen that can change the course of one’s college career.
This is not a war? LOL…
DUH! And Sheep dont fly… Thanks for the education.
Unfortunately, football is a contact sports and people will get hurt.
Graves could cause havoc given a chance to play in the Spread. Give him a chance to zone read with a dynamic RB and have him make simple throws on the run….. Could be scary… He isn’t super accurate but he should be in the run and shoot system. I guess that was his mistake for changing his commitment.
We could have Marcus Mariota running our offense at this point and it wouldn’t do much.
Those responsible for what happened at Penn State will get their just punishment. There’s no need to indict the entire school and their football fans as I’m sure they are as repulsed as anyone when the facts came out. They have to pick up the pieces and move on and they are packing their stadium and showing support for their players.
Nice to see Deforest Buckner in rotation @ DE for Oregon against SC.The fact that Deforest Buckner and Kennedy Tulimasealii went to the same intermediate school and from the westside,I would think Oregon may steal Kennedy if they offer him loi!
Upgrading UH’s facilities will have to come from an aggressive fundraising drive and from private donors, plain and simple. The general public in Hawaii will not support such a project. Unfortunately, we don’t have a Gov Burns, who was an avid UH supporter and fan, to help with things. Having the head coach pay for fertilizer out of his pocket to prep the grass practice field is unacceptable for a Div-I Mid-major program. UH will need to decide if they want to put forth the effort to raise the necessary funding or let the existing facilities fall apart, thus chasing away potential recruits. I remember during the Larry Price days when they brought in recruits, the only thing the coaches would show them was the brand new (at that time) Cooke Field with it’s artificial turf. There was nothing much else to show them.
Back in the late 80s Oregon HC Rich Brooks decided that if they were to move beyond a series of 5-6 or 6-5 seasons, they would have to raise funds and invest money into their football program in terms of recruiting budgets and facility upgrades. It was Brooks who set the foundation and got things moving for Mike Bellotti and now Chip Kelly.
Debunking some myths:
Curran the apologist
Curran likes to say a lot on his show he is not skilled enough, astute enough, or courageous enough, to call a spade a spade, to question chow’s decision to go with shroeder. To this I say if you are going to be a commentator and you don’t have the balls to call a spade a spade, you should either stop being an apologist for chow or not talk about uh football at all. Am frankly tired of so-called commentators not having enough cajones to call a duck a duck.
Recruiting
Chow likes to say he needs a few years worth of recruiting to build his team. Really? Be real, coach. Who in their right mind would want to come here from the mainland to play for a coach who goes 1-7 playing a Duke reject as the starter? Who locally would want to play for a coach fixated on recruiting from the mainland when the islands are full of talented players? Does anyone really think a lifetime career assistant coach can successfully recruit for positions other than QB? If chow does manage to recruit, it will be limited to people interested in playing QB for chow in a program at the bottom of its conference. Local kids with talent will take those talents to programs where their talents are appreciated and used, not allow to waste away on the pine in favor of a duke reject.
Higgins
I’ve said all along Higgins can play. He played three years at Aloha Stadium. He can play and it showed this past weekend.
Chow
If Chow starts shroeder in the next game, it will show he has no clue what you have to do in order to win games. He does not know how to make adjustments midstream. He is still only an assistant coach in his mind and his thinking.
As one local recruiting observer said. “Once those local high school players visit Oregon (Nike U.) and see the facilities, it’s all over. Talk about lose fight.”
Come to think of it, what is Tommy Lee doing. Is he the supposed offensive coordinator or quarterback coach? We haven’t had a peep from him since the season started. No interview, no comments, nothing.
Interesting fact: The leading rusher so far in college football, Divisiion I (FBS) is QB Jordan Lynch from Northern Illinois with more than 1,300 yards. He runs out of a spread offense . Their record so far 8-1 and leading the MAC division.
No matter where Tulimasealii goes, he will make a huge impact.
Jeremy Higgins played very little at Utah State as a freshmen. I’m not sure what went into his decision to give up his scholarship and transfer to UH, where he’s a walk-on. Maybe he was homesick? Perhaps he saw the writing on the wall when USU signed Chuckie Keeton. Of course he transferred here when McMackin and Rolovich were still the coaches and UH was still a RNS offense.
http://www.cfbstats.com/2010/player/731/1034638/index.html
Frustrations aside, I would really like to see if Chow can turn UH into a winner. Give him a chance guys. I don’t have wool over my eyes either (is that the saying?). I see all of the problems. But you have to be a little more patient than one season.
GO WARRIORS!!!
YES! Early game on Saturday. That means I can watch. Cheehoo!
#60 Mr Shmo.
Coaching T&F, Olympic Weightlifting and Gymnastics pays the bills but coaching football is my love and preparing players is my passion.
Regardless of who I am, the observations speak for themselves. It doesn’t matter who I have coached or what international awards I have won, there’s far too much credential and cronyism over competence going on these days.
There is no biological sense in how the players are trained. The S&C staff are rather understaffed, but regardless, I disagree with how the players are prepared. Adding in the take-over by the football staff the whole bloody thing is a mess.
There are a lot of young football bodies being offered up as sacrifices to the football gawds at the moment. Its all part of the original error.
Thought I heard that Higgins wanted to come home. Guess he missed the plate lunches.
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Plenty grumpy faces around here.
No happy people on this blog?
Smile. 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂
Nah keep it coming. I like reading everyone’s comments. It helps bring some humor to our hectic days. 🙂
Facilities and money will help the UH only on a limited bases. I believe that UH will only improve when the coaches run a system that fits the type of players they can recruit. If you can’t recruit the 6’5-6’6″ offensive linemen why are you staying with a pro type offense. If you don’t get the space eater d-tackle or big db’s that can take your head off why are they playing the defense that they are running. The coaches with smarts run a system that fits their players like Boise, Texas Christian, Nevada etc. They don’t get the NFL first round draft types but they are successful because their system fits their players.
The current offensive line was recruited for the run and shoot which we all know means pass, pass and more pass. So why is their pass blocking so bad this year. Is it the coaching
Now we definitely know that Hawkpeter is SOMEBODY. I say pay him and Chad Ikei a retainer or hire them as coaches. Lot of talent right here at home.
I was at the Fresno game and saw it in person SS took another beat down. He was on his back alot and some of the hits he took where huge. So SS has got toughness and heart but it the hits he is receiving contantly is taking a toll on him mentally and physically. Chow and his staff called a good mix of plays and schemes but the offense with a battered SS was just not moving the ball and the defense was on the field way too much. Fresno quick strike offense hit on big plays over and over and the defense could do nothing to stop them because the offense was lacking. Special teams was a bright spot, Mike Edwards is a beast! The running backs Lister, Iosefa and Gregory are awesome. The O line get beat up with multiple injuries during the Fresno game. Shutter played in the 4th Quarter for 2 series but most of the plays where running plays for Shutter. The Higgins came in and was hitting passes with zip and quickly too. I mean Higgins didn’t waste alot of time holding onto the ball and got it out quickly. And both Shutter and Higgins displayed something the was lacking and thats QB mobility by scrambling in the pocket to buy some time or ran when the play wasn’t happening.
So, I don’t see why not put in Higgins or someone else, at this point what does Hawaii have to lose. It’s not like Sean Schroeder is winning games as the QB, so why not build depth and let someone else get meaningful game reps. Every other position on the team has everyone playing and rotating. And many other schools use 2 QB’s for example Notre Dame. SS looked slow and beat up from the repeated hits he has been receiving. When he throws there was no zip on the ball, he so beat up that his doesn’t really want to take off and run and when he does his is slow and the poor guys has taking such a beating all season that he looked indecisive. SS has the guts and heart of a champion but his body has taking a beating and it effects on how he plays.
Now putting in Higgins or rotate a few other QB’s else at home against Boise State defense would give them valuable experience and against such a good defense Chow can really evaluate who is ready for possibly as a starter or not. I still think that SS should start the game and play in the 1st Quarter, Higgins 2nd Quarter, 3rd Quarter Shutter and 4th Quarter Woosley/ Graves. Of course if for some reason Hawaii is actually in the game and not getting blown out by end of the first quarter or half time. Then split reps between SS, Higgins and give Shutter a few reps too. But again Im not an expert just thinking outside the box.
Until June Jones’ RNS came along, the Hawaii offense was never noted for scoring a lot of points. But, yes, defense wins championships, at least a good defense. Utah State, statistically, has a good defense and is among the the top schools. The run a spread offense. Their record so far, 7-2. That’s pretty good. And they should have beaten Wisconsin at Wisconsin if the kicker made the critical field goal, losing 16-14. They lost at BYU 9-3. If UH was to play Utah State right now, in Hawaii, Utah State would win 49-10. That’s how 1 year has changed. Last year, Hawaii had a big lead at halftime but couldn’t hold it and lost.
Hmm, a 4-QB system. That would be a first.
Funny that Coach Chow so willing to change up practice schedule but not QB?
Ahh well I’m going to South Bend Next Week!
Funny that Coach Chow so willing to change up practice schedule but not QB?
Ahh well I’m going to South Bend Next Week!
#71 tommy lee is drawing a paycheck. he shows up to work, watches film, takes a nap, watches practice, eats a snack, takes a nap, watches film, reads the warrior beat, goes home. lee is only on the staff so that chow isn’t 1 coach short of a full allotment. june did the same with his qb coach (dan morrison?). but morrison was slightly involved in the huddle at practices (while june orchestrated the looks for the defense). i haven’t been to chows practices (except the spring game) but I wouldn’t be surprised if lee has little or no involvement (or coaching).
Hawkpeter hit the nail on the head. As I have said before nutrition is sooo important. You can’t compete eating cup o noodles.
Kifi-I hope he chose U.H.!!Kennedy if you read this blog please pick U.H.For a high school football player that have so much drive and sportsmanship you sure made a lot of fans.Come U.H so you can help the Defense SASA da other team!!
#87 are katooshes a part of SASA?
Please. I am begging you. No more. No more. Please, please, please do not schedule Temple. We can’t take it. We suck. We are the worst football team in America. We are an embarrassment to the university and state. Do not play any more teams. In fact, if we can, let’s not show up for Boise. Cancel the rest of the season. Make shame. Wait till next year!
If thats Coach Lee’s daily schedule, I wonder what he does up in the box during game time.
Chow has lost the team and the fans. Not much else to lose. His wife doesn’t follow football or she’d probably walk out.
Aloha bowl going to be a huge bust. Only way to save that game is have Chow volunteer to sit in booth and have pies thrown at him for $10 a pop. I’d buy me a ticket and pop a hundred. Short of that, not much to talk about in terms of local football, except maybe the success stories of the boys who had the smarts to go away.
Vele at FB? Please.
The few times that I watched the team practice coach Lee was very involved with the offense, if I remember correctly he was coaching the recievers. Chow said when he hired Lee that he would be his eyes up in the box while he would being calling the plays from down on the field.
#75
“There is no biological sense in how the players are trained. The S&C staff are rather understaffed, but regardless, I disagree with how the players are prepared. Adding in the take-over by the football staff the whole bloody thing is a mess.
There are a lot of young football bodies being offered up as sacrifices to the football gawds at the moment. Its all part of the original error.”
Then please enlighten us on the biological sense?
Football players are not Olympic Lifters, they are not Track Sprinters, and DEFINITELY not Gymnasts! They need to be good at their position, be mentally tough, and in shape to hold up at their position for a long season. There is a lot of experience on the UH staff and we trust in everything they do.
I have attended a few off-season workouts, and practices, and the team goes thru a 15 minute warm-up, flexibility, mobility, and pre-hab circuit, so your claims against their lack of certain qualities is not because of a lack of training, it may be a lack of physical talent, and previous injuries from high school!
They are NOT conditioned by the coaching staff, but if a player needs to be disciplined certain “conditioning” activities are used (just like every school in the country).
Bottom line is we need better players. You can’t make chicken salad out of chicken sh**. If we have lesser talent it will show on the the field, no matter.
Training style, offensive system, defensive system, lack of facilities, poor meal plans…all of these “shortcomings” can be quickly erased with better talent, and WINNING!
Many local fans know that JJ ran a VERY, VERY loose and sometimes undisciplined program, BUT he managed to win, and when you win, the questions are erased.
#79 Kifi. Writing on a blog doesn’t make me a somebody. I suggest people work the problem and be skeptical of everything including me. Questioning the method and analyzing the data leaves no room for an argument from authority, a fallacy of correlation or ad hominem attack.
Why aren’t some players getting better? Why aren’t they any stronger than 3 years ago despite doing all the prescribed programming? Why run a power offense then condition the players outside the demands of the sporting task and have them drop so much weight?
What was not great in the last few years is terrible now.
chow stated that they tried to change their practice schedule, how and when they travel, how and when they do the haka, etc.and does not understand why they don’ win. real coaches know that only players and coaches can win games – not these extraneous items. it is real surprising that chow would make those statements. I was quite flabbergasted hearing him make these statements.
#74 I give chow chance if he give the other QB chance!! Send um in and see what they got in a game.Couple series can can.Who knows maybe that one backup QB can start the fire burning and the fire just spread to the rest of the offense!!If not then there is a good chance the only repeat game they show on oc16 is UH vs Lamar!!I hope i am wrong.
Mr Shmo,
I’m so glad you used the following argument…
‘Football players are not Olympic Lifters, they are not Track Sprinters, and DEFINITELY not Gymnasts! They need to be good at their position, be mentally tough, and in shape to hold up at their position for a long season. There is a lot of experience on the UH staff and we trust in everything they do.’
Football players train generally and specifically. There are general physical capacities that are shared and overlap with the general preparation of other sports. Being strong, flexible and having good running skills correspond with the football sporting task.
15min of quantity may not be 15min of quality. Use all the physical punishment drills you like, but from a biological stand point you are not fixing the problem, you have to concede that it is making it worse.
I agree with you that with better talent you can have a lot more false positives. They would be better despite poor training…. see the problem with that? I do. Getting away with inefficient training practices and program management because you might have elite genetics is a terrible concession to make.
My request, and I believe it is what is really wanted by everyone, is for the team to play its best. Questioning the methods and asking ‘can we do this better?’ is what makes humans what we are. The most important question in any pursuit; why do I do what I do? or is it that I have always just done it this way?
Ok. Be real, people.
Season is worst since Fred. Likelihood that UH is attractive to possible recruits very miniscule. Be real. No b.s. Who in their right mind is going to accept a scholarship to UH under chow except for players no other programs want. Example, shroeder.
Next year being “the year” is a pipe dream. Not gonna happen. 2014? Not gonna happen. Chow can neither coach nor recruit, for the reasons previously stated.
So, why don’t we wipe the slate clean, bring in someone who knows a little something about winning championships, about building teams with players who believe in themselves, and who has a history of championships as head coach? Could it get any worse than it already is?
I don’t think so.
I say fire chow, hire Cal Lee. Give Cal a chance. Not easy to overlook what the man has accomplished as a head coach, even if only at the high school level. I say UH wins more games under Lee any day compared to chow. Lee knows how to win; chow doesn’t. College players are only a few years removed from high school, and Lee has shown he knows how to win with these kinds of young players and he knows how to motivate kids to play this game like champions. I say get rid of chow, get Lee to lead the troops.
Can if possibly get any worse than it already is?
kifi –
Just for you –
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“Better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.” – Adlai Stevenson
#88 Yup!Sometimes they say “SaSa da muli”lol!
good convos today.
i wonder if Chow would ever be open to tweaking his offense, whether its tweaked toward a spread option or RnS or Air Raid offense.
also, i wonder if those “high tempo” practices, where corrections were made in film instead of on the field, wore our players out for the season. it does seem like we are getting weaker and slower as the season goes on. we peaked in the first 2 weeks of the season? and are now on the decline. possibility, but i still think the major factor of our problems are schematic and Chow’s hard head.
Was Lynn Swann of the steelers a ballet dancer?
I notice the word “shame” is being used more and more in describing this year’s football team…I remember the word being used when UH lost to UNLV last year, when everyone expected them to win the game. That UNLV game alone led to the end of a contract extension for MAC and eventually, his termination. Now, “shame” is becoming more and more prevalent when sitting in the stands watching the Warriors…In fact, I don’t think they’re Warriors anymore (i.e. proud and cocky), rather, we have reverted back to being Rainbows. (i.e. a drop in pride here) It’s gonna be tough going to the rest of the home games…My wife has refused to go because of the “shame” and I’m feeling bad for the guys who were recruited by Mac being relegated to the bench. Yes, I’m sorry to say I’m feeling the “shame”…Probably even worse than during the dismal 0-13 year under Von Appen. At least we got to see the fights in the stands as entertainment.
Hope they find a new AD fast or there won’t be a football program to fund the rest of the programs. Who ever said this was supposed to be a 3 or 5 year program??? I don’t recall that ever being agreed to. Wasn’t the main reason we removed Mac because of his “pay” (1.5 million/year) and his “average” win-loss record? Wasn’t the charge to “win” games and improve the program? Isn’t it all about wins? No fan is going to stick around too long for a losing team/program. The Von Appen years had people asking whether we needed to go to Division II. If we keep losing this year and there is no improvement, I think we need to cut our losses and get someone who knows how to win with the material he has.
Losing breeds frustration, discontent…..and well, salty fans. I agree with some of you, disagree with a few of you.
But regardless, I still support the team…still wear my UH gear proudly in public, and my butt will be baking in the sun at Aloha on Saturday afternoon.
For those that feel Mac did not recruit talent, here are three QBs recruited in 2009 by Hawaii, Nevada and Freno St., respectively:
Kevin Spain (Hawaii)
QB Phoenix, AZParadise Valley 6’3″ 190 4.7 3 stars 5.6 6/23/09
Cody Fajardo (Nevada)
QB Anaheim, CAServite 6’2″ 195 4.7 3 stars 5.5 1/30/10
Derek Carr (Fresno St)
QB Bakersfield, CABakersfield Christian 6’3″ 200 4.8 3 stars 5.6 5/25/08
All are rated 3-star recruits by Rival.com. Kevin left the Hawaii program early this year. Recognize the other two?
Aaron Brown and Alex Green were also 2009 recruits. Both are in the NFL now. Mac actually recruited well.
106.. Stop it…. having stars out of high school doesn’t make you talented. Spain actually only had a scholarship to Northern Arizona. He recruited a few good JC guys. But you build your program around Freshmen that you develop so the turnover in graduating players every year isn’t so bad and you fill in your immediate needs with JC guys.
Mack left us with no QBs, WRs, and pretty non athletic O linemen. His prize was Mike Edwards but he can’t do it by himself. Beau Yap is pretty good too but even he needs help on that D line.
#91 I myself don’t ‘think’ coach has lost the whole or even most of the team. Whenever I see players interviewed on camera, they all sound upbeat, optimistic, happy to be competing. Of course, I don’t really *know* what 109 student-athletes actually think about coach & neither does anyone else. But I also think the only reason coach doesn’t replace Schroeder is the corner he backed himself into by waiting too long. What’s he gonna say if Higgins starts, plays well and then predictably asked why he didn’t change sooner? Just say, “We had our reasons for sticking with Sean. Sean is still an important part of our team and has the respect of every player in this locker room. But Jeremy showed us some spark and Sean was taking too many hits. So we decided to make a change. Period.”
What’s up, whats up!
Mahalo for the live report from RaisinLand.
Soccer is a contact sport.
Basketball is a contact sport.
Football is a collision sport. Bad things frequently happen in collisions.
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Pomai:
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Boise is GOING DOWN.
GO WARRIORS!!!
Healing Energy to all the hurts…
Esp. Mike Edwards… #1
Oh- and the Cult of Colt is still alive – esp. at Kahuku.
GO COLT!
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Another factor which I often overlook — recruiting psychology. Chow probably has at least 1 or 2 blue-chip QBs on his radar. HS QBs and/or their parents still perceive Chow as a QB guru. It may not say much to Hawaii fans (me included) starving for wins, but it probably says plenty to recruits or their parents gauging the depth of Chow’s commitment to their kids.
I mean, I can even see parents/prospects admiring Chow for *not* yo-yoing QBs in a losing season. It sends the message Chow would give them/their sons every opportunity to succeed.
Jeezy33, that’s why teams like USC, Florida, etc. etc. etc. recruit four and five star players. Because those players’ talents were recognized. You don’t see them recruiting 2-star players because the odds are the majority will be average to above average players. Can you build a team around them. Sure. They can be a good team, but they won’t be beating the Alabamas any time soon. In any case, the point I tried to make is that Mac recuited good players to build a good team. This team is a debacle and the excuse is that there is not enough talent.
@102 Tapuaora:
Lynn Swann was not a ballet dancer BUT was ballet trained.
There has been various articles stating that ballet dancers are just as athletic as football players.
Finesse is just as important as brute strength – movement and the use of your body.
Now everyone see why jd wanted dirk koetter as hc instead of chow. Because the transition from a RnS to a spread is much smoother then going to a pro set. RnS n spread can mask talent. Pro set u need loads of talent at every position.
I do believe chow will turn it around in the coming years. Esp next year with Graham at Qb.
115. Im not an idiot.
Identifying 4 and 5 star players is like saying Peyton Manning if a hall of fame QB. Obvious.
But when you start picking out 1 star, 2 star, 3 stars, you’re really just speculating someones opinion over another.
Jerrol Garcia Williams had 2 stars and Marrell Jackson had NR. When I saw video, I viewed them much higher rated than the scouting services.
Kiha Sai has a 3 star ranking. I view him as a 1 star.
All opinion.
And the obvious is Isaac Savaiinaea. anyone of us can go watch a Punahou game and notice he’s a 4 star talent. Please don’t try and talk to me about recruiting when I put in enough time trying to follow Hawaii recruiting in general.
114. That’s a good point. Chow’s philosophy might involve representing to prospective recruit(s) that he is willing to develop a player and not flip flop when that player has a bad game(s). Chow sticking with Schroeder shows a commitment that alot of young players look for in a coach.
Hello.
We have players that are going to college now and are members of this team.
The teachers need to teach the students they have and help develop their talents and skills.
That’s what teachers in schools are supposed to do.
Not
Oh- can’t do anything with these students… lets get other students we like and develop those next year….
What’s the point?
If I were treated like that, I would find another place to go to school.
Just sayin.
well thats exactly what chow wants u to do, leave and find another place to go to school/play.
You would be surprised the amount of student-athletes that transfer due to lack of playing time or coaching changes. Its nothing new in college football. Its even worse in college basketball.
The MWC didn’t want Hawaii because they felt that we really didn’t have much to offer. We are proving their point by being firmly entrenched at last place. From Pay-per-View, to Pay-to-Play… from debut.. to de butt… from Run and shoot to … just shoot me….
Remember that fat defense lineman that had a pick-6 against BYU and scored the only TD giving the Broncos a close win? He’s out for the season with a torn ACL.
http://voices.idahostatesman.com/2012/11/05/ccripe/boise_state_dt_mike_atkinson_out_year_with_torn_acl_k_jake_van_g
Quote from Bronco receiver, Chris Potter.
On the Hawaii trip: “Everyone’s on vacation but you. It can be distracting at times. Your family doesn’t want to come to a game until they find out Hawaii’s on your schedule. … They’re sitting on the beach and wanting you to come say hi.”
Mr. Grease,
Nice joke yesterday… Haha…
Sorry I couldn’t take the tone of yesterday’s blog. I had to stop reading. That one was harsh… I think there were two people with family members on the team on opposite sides of the Chow argument who have more at stake than anyone else…
Oh and Mr. Grease…. 303-235… Obama… I figure if there were one day for some politics, today would be it…
^^ that’s my guess at electoral college
125. it could be worse for BSU, they could be 1-7. 😉
Romney by wide margin 🙂
I feel sorry for Schroeder. Takes more hits off the field than on. It’s not his decision how much playing time he gets.
Chow was brought in to right the ship called Warrior Football. Seems he decided to scuttle the old and build a brand new ship according to his specifications. He thought he had 5 years to complete this daunting project. Boy was he wrong. Whoever hired him should have let him know the patience span of most fans is only 7-8 games long.
One flaw in his blueprint, which many posters have pointed out, is in this day and age it may not be the wisest choice to uses sails and oars to power his ship. Some fans have advocated going back to nuclear power(R n S) or turbo jet (spread option). Just something that fits the 21 century.
Jeezy, how would you rate Tulimasealii and Wily? Also, Taumua? And Kanawai Noa (he’s only a sophomnore I think)? Do they have the grades to get in at UH?
Shoko, you are very funny!
I last time I went to a UH game in person was the 2007 season. In fact, that year I went to at least 5 games and at least a couple of road games in 2006 and 2007, all because I knew we had a good team and I had so much confidence in Colt Brennan and the offense to score just about every time they had the ball. That brings the fans out. But, I order season’s package for pay per view and watch every UH game ever since Oceanic Cable has offered it. I don’t want to see the team in person now, not with the kind of team we have.
It’s too frustrating. We still support the team in a different way. I hope, one day again that I can be proud to watch the team in person with a great team before I die. But, if the 2006 and 2007 UH teams were the best, then at least I experienced the greatest moments in my mind. An undefeated season, coming back from down 21-0 in the first qtr and beating UW 35-28 to cap the regular season. Making it to the Sugar Bowl. Colt finishing 3rd in the Heisman Ballating. Dan Kelly making clutch field goals, two of them in fact against Nevada. On and on. Yet, in my mind the 2006 UH team was even better. Ah, those were the days, my friend.
To be completely objective,
I hate to say it but our talent level is just not what it was in past years. Mix that in with the our ridiculous amount of injuries and we’ve got a serious problem… You could see it last year when Royce Pollard went down, our numbers just plummetted… We’ve had many NFL quality receivers every year for the past 5 years. We have none on this team. I like Trevor Davis but he wouldn’t have even played on our 2010 team..
What annoys me is that Darius Bright is not targeted more. He’s the only one who creates mismatches…
Coach Chow wants to win by shortening the game and playing good defense… Unfortunately, we just aren’t that talented up front(especially with the injuries on the dline) on defense.
SAWarrior,
Let’s make a friendly wager about presidential election… Loser has to say something nice about the winners candidate on Wednesday… At least a paragraph…
Btw,
Does anyone on here play scramble or gems with friends?
How do the military academies compete on D when their DT’s top the scales at 265lbs or less? Kinda get the picture on O with their similarily sized linemen.
Cocobean,
Discipline and the team buys into the scheme and plan the coaches have built to deal with the personel they have.
133. warriorNY…. how about the loser doesn’t post for 48 hours. 😉
500 generals and admirals can’t be wrong.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/nov/4/retired-top-military-brass-push-romney/
SAWarrior,
Nah I like some of your posts… Don’t want to deprive you of warrior beat for two days…. 🙂
135. coco….. it’s what some of us been saying. coach’s schemes/philosophy is wrong, it’s not the players, they have talent to compete.
Blog getting interesting again. Friendly wagering on election. Does Saw cover?
Finally got to see Inside Access. I don’t think the “anger” expressed here is any more or less than outside. I think the WB is a microcosm of the entire fan base.
When Chow was at Utah, just a year ago as OC, he told reporters he could not run his system because due to injuries he had to use a third string QB (I think he was a walkon) and because he did not have the players to run his system. But he said not to worrry because he would run what he called a “Utah Offense” which would be made to use the skills of the quarterback and the players who were recruited to Utah to run a spread offense (after Chow left, they went back to the spread). Chow put together an offense which he tailored each game to his players, QB, and opponents, and got Utah to a bowl game.
Why didn’t he do that here? I think because he did not have a head coach telling him to do it.
Utah was 8-4 in the freakin PAC 12 last year… Coach Chow named utahs offense in the spring that year….
Utah was 8-4 in the freakin PAC 12 last year… Coach Chow named utahs offense in the spring that year….
@116-Thanks Tommui for clearing that up. –
3-prong,
What do you mean if Saw covers?
Haha
138. warriorNY…. yeah, not being able to post on the warrior beat would plunge me into a deep depression, but i don’t think i could come up with a paragraph of nice things to say about obama in a timely manner.
Writing nicey things about obama would cause me to call-in sick to work, and i would really have to apply myself for the first time since grade school. The stress of it all may be too much for my fragile mind to handle. 😉
Speaking about the PAC12…….Colorado is to the PAC12 as we are to the MWC.
We’re almost mirror images. Bottom of confernce in wins, points scored, points allowed.
The scary part is this is their coach’s 2nd year. He was hired on the basis that he would instill discipline, play tough defense and have a establish the run offense. Very old school.
It’s not working there as of yet.
SAWarrior,
I understand your point. Lol…
I think i might be able to get a paragraph together about Romney… But I just don’t know which Romney to talk about… The pro choice Romney in 2000 or the “severely conservative” Romney in 2012… The Romney that would “not gone after Bin Laden in Pakistan” in 2007 vs the “of course I would’ve hit gone after bin laden” in 2011…
Against the auto bailout in 2008 and for it in 2011
Against FEMA in 2010 and for it two days after a national storm…
I just don’t know which one to talk about…
Saw: Wondered if you would take the initial bet. Was trying to imagine what you would say. Hehe
Ok. I’ll accept your friendly wager to not post for two days if I lose…
Deal?
#85: Thank you. LOL. You forgot his ability to say “Yes, Norm,” although now I’m not even sure that’s necessary unless he is shagging balls.
In my opinion, Tulimasealii is 4 star talent. I’d take him over Pagano. I don’t remember Wade Keliikipi being as dominate as Kennedy while in high school. And Keliikipi is doing very good at Oregon.
Rbs I cant really tell. I don’t really know how fast Taumua or Wily are. And Kahuku just mauls over opponents. Rb wouldn’t be a huge need in my opinion. Could see Wily being a solid safety though.
Noa to me is for real. HE would be a huge get if we could get him in the future.
#85. Reading between the lines……are you saying Chow should make Rolo an offer he cant’t refuse or am I reading too much into your post.
120.
Isn’t this a warrior football blog?
Servers are supposed to serve. Pilots are supposed to fly. Writers are supposed to write.
Thanks for informing us what students and teachers do.
151. warriorNY…ok, deal…. now i know u want me to plunge into a deep depression 😉 j/k
i hope all yous east coasters doing as well as can be expected… i just did the text “red cross” to 90999 donation thingy. I been watching all the sad and frustrating people stories on the news, and it sux what folks going through up there.
Who plays in the UH weekly scrimmages ? Is there tackling in the scrimmages ?
SAWarrior,
We may be on opposite sides of the political spectrum… But i def agree with you on the red cross issue….Thank you for a very good post…
I wasn’t hit hard here… But there are a lot of people that lost their homes, lots of people without power and heat…
Very nice post…
After 8 games, its pretty clear the direction of Warrior football.
They played their best game of the season in the first game vs. USC. Even if the team is “rebuilding”, a good coach would have the team improving game to game as the players buy in to the system. This is not happening. Very ominous. When a team puts up 42 points on you in the first half and doesn’t play its QB in the 2nd half, do you think the players believe in the system or the coach? Doubt it. they may say they believe publicly, but ….. This is actually worse than Von Appen’s years. I don’t remember consistenly getting blown out this badly. Only during Larry Price’s years with the Hula T.
Give Chow one more year but pray for June Jones return. He will return.
kifi,
Hawkpeter is in Australia, not Hawaii. He’s been involved in training a lot of great athletes, some of whom have been Warriors.
Larry Price beat BYU and Fresno State.
All anyone needs to know about Hawkpeter and his knowledge of football training is…..that he trained and developed a former 2-year starting Warrior OG/OT Adrian Thomas.
….as well as current redshirt frosh starting Warrior OT Blake Muir (who never played OL until he got to UH).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITAJwXRU5ok
BTW, just so that everyone knows…..TH runs the S&C program the way that Chow wants it done…..not how he did the previous 2 seasons.
“THESE ARE THE FACTS OF THE CASE. AND THEY ARE UNDISPUTED.”
hey, boise has it’s own “A-Joe”.
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/177409181.html?id=177409181
Good reading, might have more about this here. enjoy. It is good also to learn about Tibia and what it does to you. Thank you!
…and ours can TJoe widda best of ’em!
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# 126 — WarriorNY.
Mahalo for your queries of a Grease’s presence up in hea, up in hea of a The Warrior Beat.
Quite busy today.
Brace yourself for a Romney victory, WarriorNY 🙂 . Better check your Rasmussen and Gallup polls, both of which can usually be trusted. Statistical dead heat — which an INCUMBENT might overcome, you might say? Well, Obama didn’t exactly win by the landslide many predicted he would in 2008.
Add to how the bad unemployment situation is a VERY real thing, the Benghazi thing still very fresh on voters’ minds . . . and you got, instead, an incumbent in election trouble.
Glad you liked the joke WarriorNY.
Larry Price for DC !!!
Why not ? – he’s ONLY about 79 years young.
Betcha he can do better than ……………….
Oh, and, uh, heh, silly Grease forgot to mention, ahem, Rasmussen and Gallup have Romney . . . in the LEAD. 😀
Get ready for a better lifestyle, America.
The players are learning how to be accountable .
How to be discipline How to represent themselves.
Be students, go to class.They are all learning valuable lessons.Thats why many parents want
their boys to be exposed to coach Chow.
We don’t have the talent this year but given a
full recruiting year and the one after that,
It will be fun!!!!!
Rasmussen and Gallup polls actually show that Obama has closed the gap… wasn’t he down by 6 or 7 points a week ago? So a 1 point difference clearly shows the momentum shift in Obama’s direction.
The mere fact that Romney’s ahead should be very worrisome for the incumbent.
You want Obama to lose. He’ll only end up having a horrible 2nd term.
Election Day.
One of those days where most aren’t NOT “Americans”.
Just simply divided and defined as either Republicans or Democrats.
Anybody else notice how almost the whole team congratulated Higgins, including the defensive players, after he led and scored the only touchdown, except a qb? Maybe the players just don’t have it in them to play for somebody who came from another program, beit a losing one and without 1 second of game time, and was handed the job after 2 practices. When the other qbs went in, notice how it gave the team a lift and renewed energy? Sorry, I don’t think its the current qb’s fault, its probably the coaching. The dline has been decimated with injuries, but don’t we have reserve d-tackles on the team, like other teams, that just have to step up, instead of moving players from other positions to fill in, thus making those other players’ former position weaker too? I’m sure that those reserve players, whether on scholarship or are walk-ons, practice hard and are waiting for the opportunity, only to see somebody else go into their position. Sounds like a great morale builder (sarcastic). Sorry about being negative, but I watched every game this year and we are pathetic. Some of you guys on the blog are being too nice, what game are you watching? Even Stevie Wonder can see we are probably the worst team in D1. Maybe we were spoiled on what the former coaches look for in a qb. Quick release, mobile, strong arm, and smarts. I don’t see 3 of the 4 that I just mentioned and maybe all four. Watching Coach Chow on the news made me feel sick. I remember that BHF2 mentioned last year or a couple of years ago about how some fans were laughing at the Warriors at a home game. I caught myself dong that in this last game because whatever we could do wrong went wrong. I still love the team but we are pathetic.
Hey, I think your site might be having browser compatibility issues. When I look at your blog in Ie, it looks fine but when opening in Internet Explorer, it has some overlapping. I just wanted to give you a quick heads up! Other then that, very good blog!
here’s this week’s results of our opponent’s results….
http://www.sportshawaii.com/sh/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=42783
171. That bump for Obama was for the initial sandy super storm disaster. Americans rally round the pres when stuff like that happens. But look now, sandy is turning into obama’s Katrina. It’s a disaster the response to the super storm.
Thank you, SAWARRIOR, # 177.
Here. Go to yur breitbart dot com page and look for the hot off the press story Obama Ends Campaign in Half-Empty Arena; here, from that account:
I heard t’ings, I heard t’ings!!! 🙂
What is happening. What is HAPPENING with an Obama campaign? Realization. That’s what.
They told Biden to set his clock back Saturday night, so he moved it to the far end of his bedside table.
-Dennis Miller
Vote for The Four…Stevens…Woods…Doherty…Smith
We will see what happens tomorrow. I know who’s going to win, but won’t say, except to say I trust one person who does the math and he’s been doing this a long time. Wait for tomorrow. Popular vote doesn’t count. It’s the electoral college. Comes down to the battleground states (Nevada, Colorado, Iowa, Wisconsin, Ohio, Florida, Virginia, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania). Have a good night’s sleep. I’m going golfing tomorrow at my favorite course. As sure as I am, I also know Boise St. will be coming in here ready to take it up a notch on our poor Warriors after losing last week against San Diego State by 2 points 21-19.
@179. 😆
There is a way to write a lot and say nothing at the same time.
It’s hard for everyone to accept the end result right now but I think in the
Long run (2-3 yrs – time for a player to adapt new changes) which I’m willing
to sacrifice to see the finish product. It is what it is right now and totally support
Coach Chow & Staff. Please understand, IT WILL TAKE TIME. GO WARRIORS!!
From the opening credits of the HBO series Treme:
Hold FEMA to it, WarriorNY!!!!
GO WARRIORRRRRRRRS!!!!!
🙂
Amen!!!! Not enough posts like this!!!!! Thanks J-Force. GO WARRIORS!!!!!!!!
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Mitts 59 Barrys 41
Key Plays OH and PA
Mr. Grease,
Romney surged After the first debate I’ll give you that… But Obama has regained his ground. (and he never lost his lead in the swing states.)
He never lost his electoral college lead because Ohio voters have been behind Obama consistently…. even before Sandy, Romney was up a point or two nationally but the Electoral college had Obama winning…
As Jay Z said earlier I got 99 problems but Mitt ain’t one…
Go figure.
You might have dashed the hopes and dreams of faceless people everywhere. 😆
We’ll see tomorrow fellow sportsfans, we’ll see! Hehe
Election predictions?
For the POTUS:
The two-party circus : 45
AMERICANS: 0
What “key plays”? I thought my vote counted?
I thought if I don’t vote “they” win.
No one told me I’d have to live there to make the difference.
I thought if I vote, I can make my voice heard?
# 190 WarriorNY.
If you can — all of you — watch the end of The Candidate TLefty Robert Redford film, oddly enough), where he tells his handlers . . . “what do you we do now?”
That’s Obama if he wins tomorrow, heh.
All the same . . . hope things are going steady and surely; THIS is the time to raise that infamous verbal East coast voice like never before. 🙂
Boise is not unbeatable. Maybe it’s time for the fans to step up and inject some energy into the team. Make it a real home field advantage. It’s worked for the VB Wahine when they have been the underdog at home.
Silly Grease.
Supposed to be “what do we do, now?”
There. 🙂
@178,
Youre not talking about andrew breitbart’s blog, are you? I was sad to hear he passed because he always made his opinions known… I Never agreed with him but I always respected that he would go on liberal shows and defend himself…
Hey mr. Grease and SAWarrior,
Im glad we can have a little political banter on here (though ST may not like it) but I think we have a much better tone in the comments yesterday…
Sorry thats supposed to say
We have a better tone THAN in yesterday’s comments…
Mr. Grease,
Would you take up my friendly wager? If My candidate wins you’d write a paragraph of something nice to say about him… And if he loses, I’ll write a paragraph about your candidate…
The coaches, the O, the D and SP teams should have a firm resolve not to let Boise score first. Eight games into the season is time enough to start reacting and doing your assignment rather then thinking.
If Chow is not about emotional fiery speeches to pump up the team I suggest he get Nate Jackson to talk to the team about toughness and mind over matter. He’ll tell the boys no sked um.
Coach, Xs and Os do not matter at this point. It’s about raising the playing emotional level of your team.
OK, here is my last two cents for tomorrow. Colin Powell, former Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under President George W. Bush in 1989 and in 2001 became Secretary of State under George H.W. Bush. Who is this Republican voting for? He’s voting OBAMA! Even he recognizes that we’ve come too far to go back……………result tomorrow.
p.s. I only gave 2-cents,…keep the change! Hehe
3-prong…
Well said!
Hey, C Grease, NY, SA. I heard ESPN is going to cover election results natiowide. Their management feels they’ll have a more entertaining way of giving out the “scores.”
Locally KITV is reporting their High School Blitz team will be presenting the local highlights.
Cocobean…
A little political banter at least changes the mood from the angry posts that have been on the blog the past few days…
Cocobean,
Yes fans should show up, but cannot compare Wahine volleyball.
When the Wahine are underdogs, that means there are like 10 or less teams in the nation better than them via rankings.
As you and most people know #10 or #7 vs #3 or #1 isnt like #100 something #27 or #25.
Yeah I thought a little dry humor wouldn’t hurt.
WarriorNY, I want some action too. I’ll bet any of the Romney folks. Winner gets to personally place his candidates bumper sticker on the Losers car/truck for a week. Any takers?
Cocobean… Haha I got you now… I didn’t read your comment right the first time…
Apologies to ST for prior political posts…..Go Warriors!
ST, sorry for political posts but to get to change the subject for a couple hours in one day is nice…
All I read on the blog lately is SS is so bad or Chow is FVA again… You see parents of players get swarmed by bloggers when they they support the Coach…
I’ll take political banter and dry humor above all of that…
#201 Powell’s allegiance to the Repubicans has always been suspect so his endorsement of Obama is no surprise. It also pales in comparison to the page ad in the Washington Post today by almost 500 former Generals and Admirals endorsing Romney. A survey by the Military Times found that active duty military, reservists and National Guard members prefer Romney by a 2 to 1 margin. The current Commander In Chief lacks the support of those he commands. Sounds just like the UH football team -just kidding! 🙂
If Romeny was such a good leader, why did Mass kick his a$$ to the curb after one term???
Obachan, I’ve got a FORWARD bumper sticker itchin to attach to your car. (see 207) care to make tomorrow more interesting? Pretty quiet on the part of the rest of your group. Hehe
WarriorNY, I don’t see any takers on your bet either.
True allegiance to your country beats any allegiance to either party.
Haha 3 prong you’re right…
Its all good though…
Kevin,
If there are only these two parties that control every aspect of government, it’s really not to pick one side.
That’s supposed to say…
It’s really Hard not to pick one side..
Picking a side per se is NOT the issue.
Its BLIND loyality and succumbing to all the propaganda provided by both parties to attach themselves to special interests for big support dollars.
Both parties have great ideas.
The Republicans, for example, are on the verge of securing more and more younger Americans but you know what is stopping that?
Answer: Their staunch ideals wrapped around old religious dogmas that simply do not work in modern day society in the most diverse US population in decades.
Only a BLIND FOOL restricts their voting decisions based on party and party alone thinking their party’s crap dont stink.
When Obama pronounced corpsman as “corpse man” you just gotta shake your head and wonder how this guy graduated from Punahou much less became Commander In Chief.
@222,
You remember prior to 2008 when GWB was pres right?
Last thing I’ll say about politics tonight. It’s 12:12am here in Hawaii and soon people will continue the tradition that got us where we are today…
Two Party Politics 45
AMERICA 0
Happy Election Day everyone!
In a few hours I will cast my vote for Obama and Caldwell.
Hope everyone goes out and votes! =)
I must admit that after watching coach Chow’s interview press conference on the 10 oclock sports news tonight, he is one stubbern but yet 110% committed buggah. I gotta admire that and give him some respect fo dat right dea, he’s won my vote. Even doe da kine, Shroader going still be da starting qb, to bad he not one local product or has one polynesian name some wea in dea. Would have probably made tings a little bit less uptight on da situation. At least he not making the dramadic changes like Von Appen or being too soft hearted like McMackin.
See the way my Tutu always told me to never take crap from no one and if de neva like it, they can get da heo out of dodgy! sheeehooo!
Coach Chow no play around and if the rest of the world don’t like it, he would still turn to the world and say, “KISS MY OKOLE!”, oops! is dat word legal on dis blog? fokiff mee, LOL
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Kevin,
How did Benghazi affect you? Ten years earlier affected me.
I’m a liberal that doesn’t even like Michael Moore. I think his films show one side of an argument from an exaggerrated perspective… But the basic premise of his films are right…
Sorry that’s 11 years earlier..
Not to take away accomplishments away from both coach Appen and Mack, they both where unique in there own ways, but coach Chow is surely unique in his own ways and all my years of playing and being a fan of the UH program, I have never seen a coach that was like him who brought hard nox, get your okole out of the kitchen if you can’t take the heat, discipline back into a program that never had any since the hay days of the maybe 50’s and 60’s.
He’s old school alright and thats always a good thing. Sometimes our young kids now days need to learn some of the old ways in order to become more successful young adults in todays society. Every single day that goes by, we lose a piece of history, tradition, heritage, and the way our young kids are being raised with all the new technology, spoiled if you ask me.
Learning how to coach and play under a great coach like Norm Chow is always an honor. He has a gift of sharing experiences in life and in coaching that many of us don’t have. He has brought his gifts back home to his people here in Hawaii. We see some of it know, and thats only the begining. We haven’t even started yet.
Look past the loses and look at what he’s doing with the young players we have. He molding them into becoming more than just the game of football, he’s molding them to become successful young men above and beyond in life.
So continue to support! It’s not about coach Chow, his staff, or the UH program, It’s about our young student athletes that are the next leaders in our country tomorrow.
#155 there’s only room for 1 cook in chow’s kitchen and it’s chow. rolo would have to hope rich miano becomes head coach at UH for him to have any chance at returning as an OC.
#131 the 2006 team is the best UH football team (i never saw the 1992 team play) the 2007 team is not even close, i would even say the 2002 team was better than 2007. after the 2006 season colt should have entered the draft, that would have secured his future and given UH a little credibility with qb’s. timmy chang never really was given much of a chance in the nfl, and he was better than koy detmer.
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Gobows 233: Good point. You know what the say about old dogs and new tricks.
06 was better than 07. Better OL.
Great Morning All!
GO VOTE!
Okay, what the frikk is Coach Chow thinking seriously. Does he honestly think that by moving times around for showing up to games, playing music loudly in the locker rooms, doing the haka before, after, whenever, changing the way they prep for a game going to put wins on the board. What the F–k!!! You gotta be kidding me! Every week it seems the coaches are getting more clueless and di-di-di… With all that coaching experience and all they can come up with is hmm… maybe we should change when we do the haka, or hey lets show up to the stadium preicisely 2 hrs. and 10 mins. before the game…maybe that will help us get a win cause I have no clue what else to do. This is what we’re paying these coaches to do, sit around a frikkin table and come up with boneheaded decisions on how to win football games.
How about studying your team during film sessions, see what’s working and what’s not. How about moving personnel in positions that best utilize what they bring to the table. How about noticing your current starting QB does not give you the best chance to win when you Mr. Offensive Guru has your offense ranked at the bottom of all college football and you can barely get in the endzone thus a 1-7 record. How about noticing your Defensive Coordinator isn’t coordinating crap the right way as we continuously cannot stop anybody running the football, yet we’ve known this from the 3rd game on. I’m not saying it’s simple cause there’s more to it but holy crap fixing other BS like a haka, or show up times is not going to produce wins. That is probably the most idiotic shit I’ve ever heard from a Head Coach!
Good Morning Gangeez!
“Do the unexpected. Take 20 minutes out of your day, do what young people all over the world are dying to do: vote.”
Good morning Pauoa Boy, d1, 3prong and errybody else. God Bless America. God Bless us all.
AlaWai, Rodney, and J-Force I second your thoughts. As painful as it is I want it to play out. All the negative stuff does nothing but damage. There is enough talent out there to get this thing going in the right direction. Turn-around has its fun…..it will turn around-
In line to vote b4 work. Back at ya DPK!
Howzit DPK,
Hope the misses had a good BDay. Time to go Rock the Vote! Be easeh errybody, time for a change today, lets git “r” done…
#131 & 154,
Nike Combine testing results…..
– Aofaga Wily (Feb. 2010 test results)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/127707/aofaga-wily
– Tyler Taumua (Feb. 2012 test results)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/150281/tyler-taumua
– Abraham Silva (Feb. 2012 test results)
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/150266/abraham-silva
NOTE: I would expect that Wily is now faster than he was 2 years ago. I would also expect Taumua to be faster now since he’s 15-to-20 pounds lighter now than when he tested 9 months ago.
Aofaga Wily’s Nike Combine test results are from 30 months ago…..almost 3 years ago.
Auntie Sweety had a great birthday, Pauoa Boy.Thanks for your well wishes.
Heh, thanks for this, cocobean. Politics can be sport, then. 🙂
Actually, ESPN will post election results in the ribbon at the bottom of their screen, on election day. This is a first, methinks, if they’re going to send actual ESPN reporters to do coverage.
Wasn’t Aofaga clocked consistently in the 4.5 range??? Still his speed is deceptive because his running style is so smooth it doesn’t look like he’s running, more like he’s gliding on the field.
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