Bright decision
Wide receiver Darius Bright has decided to end his UH football career.
Bright will focus on completing work on his bachelor’s degree. He is expected to graduate in December.
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Quarterback Sean Schroeder is expected to be medically cleared to play ย in Saturday’s game against UNLV. Schroeder suffered concussion-like symptoms on the last UH play against Air Force this past Friday. Schroeder apparently had suffered such symptoms in previous games, but did not report them to coaches, trainers or doctors.
“That’s probably not the smartest thing,” Schroeder said.
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As part of a membership agreement, UH pays visiting MWC teams up to $150,000 toward charter flights.
According to Las Vegas reports, UNLV instead will fly commercial for this trip.
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Na Koa’s awards luau is scheduled for Sunday, Dec. 2, at the UH athletic complex.
Admission is $50 for ages 13 and older, and includes buffet luau dinner and entertainment. For ages 4-12, admission is $25 each.
The deadline is Friday.
Click on the link for the details: Na Koa luau link.
Good morning! Have a great Thanksgiving Tsaikos!!
Sunday, Sept. 2? Thats a long time to wait.
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Hehe!
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Is Dec. 2 the marathon day, otherwise known as: Hawaii Kai’s lawn-watering day.
Ohayooooooooooooooooooooooogozaimasu!!!!!!
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SS probably did not inform anyone of his concussion like condition(s) simply because he knew that this years was his first and only shot at being a starting QB. If he was out for a couple because he had to sit out and someone else came in and really managed a better output, he’d be where he was at Duke. He did it for a somewhat selfish but understandable reason, he simply did not want to be replaced.
I know a lot of student athletes hide injuries from coaches and medical staff, but now that he has admitted to having concussion symtpoms multiple times, how can they clear him? He may be clear right now, but isn’t there some kind of rule regarding multiple concussions?
Coach – School – Total Pay – Max Bonus
Chris Petersen, Boise State $1,593,500 $145,000
Jim McElwain, Colorado State $1,350,000 $150,000
Dave Christensen, Wyoming $1,200,000 $25,000
Troy Calhoun, Air Force $882,000 $247,000
Rocky Long, San Diego State $802,600 $805,000
Bob Davie, New Mexico $760,000 $350,000
Tim DeRuyter, Fresno State $650,000 $0
Norm Chow, Hawaii $550,000 $695,000
Bobby Hauck, UNLV $500,900 $140,000
Chris Ault, Nevada $493,093 $30,000
Source: USA Today
#5 no, marathon day this year its the 9th, the second sunday in december. according to Dr Jack Scaff, one of the founders of the Honolulu Marathon and the Great Aloha Run, the marathon will never run on dec 7 (for fear that the people of japan will not participate) so that’s why it’s always the 2nd sunday.
Should UH vote against letting Boise, SDSU and BYU back into the MWC?
#9 at least we are not overpaying like we did with coach mack.
#8….now days, its all about passing a baseline concussion management test. Athlete takes the initial test at start of the season, to get a baseline for the athlete.
When a concussion seems likely (symptoms, etc.), the athlete takes the test again. The results are then compared to the baseline to determine if the athlete can be cleared, or not.
However, if the athlete does not notify anyone of any symptoms, there really is no way of anyone other than the athlete knowing if a concussion has occurred.
Being “cleared” means that Schroeder passed the re-test, and his results were near his baseline results.
Oh, wait. I just noticed the numbers show that Chow gets a 695k bonus. Think the numbers are a bit off.
12. That is true.
#11 if there is an entry fee, no, but double the fee. if no entry fee, then yes, vote against. but i think byu has major influence over most of the members of the mwc (i.e. wac teams from the 70″s).
Mack brought him in to be a big target WR, but Bright just wasn’t a good fit in the Run n Shoot or in Chow’s offense. His attitude/work ethic was questionable at times and he’s had a bunch of nagging injuries. Unfortunately, Mack whiffed pretty bad on this transfer.
At least Bright is smart enough to go get his degree. Good for him. Sounds like he’s a smart kid off the field.
I think a good concussion test should involve putting on the helmet and doing headbutts against a concrete wall. You pass if you don’t start seeing double after the 30th impact.
#14 double digit wins and a bowl victory every season is worth the bonus. H revenue would do really good and make the greedy mongers at upper campus drool.
I say we welcome Boise and SDSU back with open arms and stipulations like no travel subsidies and crank that exit fee up to 10MIL….As for BYU I would Love A Renewed Rivalry on a yearly basis the rivalry with Fresno just doesn’t have the same history….
Don’t BSU and SDSU also have their “other athletic endeavors” parked in the Big West, like UH? If so, why would UH be singled out as being the only one who does not have it “all in” in the MWC if BSU, SDSU and BYU get back.
I know ESPN has reported that BSU and SDSU have shown interest in returning to the MW, but according to SDSU and BSU presidents, no contact has been made with any officials with the conference. I think ESPN may be starting rumours. They’re sneaky that way.
19. I’m not sure Chow’s bonus numbers are accurate. Haven’t seen the details of the contract in terms of the bonus provisions.
#4 9ers winning makes it easier to accept the losses on saturdays.
Yep. If you’re a Niners fan. Always good to have something to fall back on when your other teams are struggling in a season.
sam gordon, the greatest little football player, was a special guest with the 49ers last week.
http://www.49ers.com/media-gallery/photo-gallery/Sam-Gordon-Visits-49ers/6d7d4816-4aa1-4221-af78-3e34fe6770c9
Unbelievable, BSU and these other teams. Wanting BACK in MWc?
Pattern already — they’re trying to run from UH.
Bring ’em back in. Million dollar fine each, to be distributed among the MWc schools already in place. Just for kicks.
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#27 have them come back in, but with no UH subsidies for travel. That should really make them happy.
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ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
Yes, let those 3 teams come back but instead of Hawaii paying for their way here, they must pay for Hawaii to travel to those sites. That would go over like a lead balloon!
Interesting about Chow’s contract reported by USA Today.
Hawaii coach Norm Chow:
Chow can get $25,000 per home game win on national TV (two such games on 2012 schedule) and $40,000 per home game win on national TV (four such games on 2012 schedule). Unfortunately, Hawaii has only one win in 2012 โ and it came against Lamar, a game that didn’t fit into either of those two categories.
Think that might be $40,000 per road game win on national TV.
Chow gets $550,000 base + bonuses. Pretty safe to say he’s not getting much bonus money this season. $550k is a bargain for a head coach at the FBS level. I know UH will have patience with him because of UH’s budget situation.
McMackin was making $1.1 million base + bonuses. He was getting paid more than JJ.. which was completely ridiculous. I and many other fans were critical of the terms of Mack’s hiring. I didn’t start criticizing Mack as a coach until 1/2 way through the 2009 season, when I saw enough games to see the program was starting to slide. Mack inherited the program under the best possible conditions: 1. The program was at an all time high after 11 & 12 win seasons. 2. UH JJ had secured a couple solid recruiting classes in 2007 & 2008 (UH didn’t lose many recruits after JJ left). 3. Financially, UH was in good shape after the BCS bowl revenue.
2008 was going to be a rebuilding year, so 7-7 was about as expected, but the ugly loss to ND in the bowl game and the racial slur from Mack left an ugly mark to cap the year. 2009 was where we started seeing decline in recruiting and the development of the 2007&2008 recruits was slower than under JJ. When UH were co-WAC champs in 2010, it was the upperclassmen leadership of Jones’ guys that anchored the team (Salas, Pilares, Letuli, Meatoga, Paredes, Silva all had multiple years of starting experience). Once Salas, Pilares, Letuli and Silva graduated after 2010, Mack never came close to replacing their production.
Even though 2012 has been awful, I see the coaching staff making adjustments and doing what they can with what they have to work with. Kaumeyer using a 3-3-5 scheme last week was evidence of that. UH was also much more discipline vs the option on Saturday. In fact, they did not give up any big runs to the option. Falemalu stayed with the QB (he had routinely bit on the fake dive vs Reno & UNM). UH flowed to the ball much better vs AF in general with the extra speed on field. Air Force gashed UH on a couple of regular runs where the OL just flat out beat the DL.
On the offense, there’s not a whole lot Chow can do if the Oline performs like they did on Friday. Higgins was decent, but if UH can’t run the ball, they don’t have the talent at QB or WR to pass their way to a win. All Chow can do is continue to install the full playbook for next year… Which hopefully QB Tayor Graham is soaking up.
Watching the Bear’s performance on Monday Night was a prime example of what happens when the O-line doesn’t perform well. Granted, Jason Campbell sucks, but watching the Bears on Monday looked an awful lot like UH this year. There’s not much a QB can do if he can’t step into a throw. Even the Brady, Manning, Rogers, Brees struggle when under constant pressure, and they have the best WR’s in the world to throw to.
Here’s some bulletin board material for the Warriors:
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/nov/20/last-game-hawaii-perfect-chance-rebels-break-road-/
Monday’s lunch report is now up.
http://www.nakoa.org/2012/11/111912-lunch-report/
Chow commented in ST’s article that he’ll do whatever it takes to get that done(win). Is he willing to add a little option or QB running plays? Those are things he hasn’t tried. I know that’ll never happen, just wanted to get a plug in for Graves.
49ers ran some interesting offensive plays out of interesting sets. Tough to predict, little time to read, and difficult to defend. Very creative. Very entertaining. Everything we are not.
SS is the second coming of Jason Campbell — slow to read, no pocket presence, buys no time with his feet, doesn’t have an internal clock on went to get rid of the ball, vulnerable to sacks and picks, takes a beating, and looks lost. Why is there even a qb controversy?
So Higgins doesn’t throw the deep ball on a dart. Then don’t call that play. Call the plays that play to his strengths.
Chow clueless.
From what I see, we should be in shotgun formation every player and never run on first down until it becomes unpredictable.
Graves is by far the most athletic and dangerous qb on this team. If he was good enough to be chosen as heir apparent to Colin K, he’s good enough to lead us.
chow, do this:
1. get iosefa or who ever is back there to block on passing plays;
2. get four other runners into the backfield, running the ball to anyplace other than up the gut;
3. throw quick, st.louis like passes for five yards, and see what we can get with ATC yards;
4. mix it up with play calling, add more passes, even on first and second downs
5. tell your D if anyone is seen not wrapping, you sit on the bench
6. tell you D if you are standing around at the end of a play and your opponent is not on the ground, you sit on the bench
7. you have nearly 100 guys, use em all if you have to
8. let higgins be higgins, no huddle, pass, pass, pass.
…and ye shall have a winning game
Why you let dem know da Game plan?!?!
Geez….
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Why is Bright leaving the team with only 2 games left? Kinda strange.
He will miss out on the senior walk.
Now lava you make sense…Cayman or Graves. No more SS…he’s got heart and he’s tough but he ain’t a player that can lead this team under the lights. Higgins isn’t the answer either. Cayman or Graves. Give ’em chance.
…who said going get one Senior Walk?
If Boise comes back to the MWC I hope they make them get rid of the blue turf.
maybe das why he left?
So long Ted Tedford
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Jeff Tedford
Wow!
6.9M left on his contract
#41 where you was in september? don’t you think it’s a little late for sharing the winning secret? you must be one of the board of regents withholding information. now we know who is to blame. if you had shared this with norm, he would have been mwc coach of the year for winning 6 games. next year let chow know before the season starts, ok.
I say let them all come back, pay Hawaii subsidies to travel to their house and when we play them next, let’s pound them ๐
Good Morning Tsaikos!!! Okay, due to some situations beyond our control we’ve had some change in plans for the Christmas Party. Sooooo….
Tsaiko Christmas Party
Where: Aloha Beer Company
580 N Nimitz Hwy
Honolulu, HI 96817
(Next door to Sam Choy’s BLC)
When: December 8th, 2012
6:30pm until whenever
What: Buffet (menu to be announced)
Price: $25.00 all inclusive, buffet, tax and gratuity
No-host bar
RSVP: Please RSVP to jgo8464822@aol.com by 12/4/12. Payment needs to be made prior to the event. If we have your RSVP and you decide not to come and you have not paid, we will have to pay for you. Pay James at either of the next two tailgates, or if mailing address is needed, please request by email.
Parking: Free Valet, accepts a gratuity
Regarding #53 above. The menu is looking to include:
Tossed Island Greens
Char Siu Fried Rice
Yakisoba
Shrimp Cakes with Basil Aioli
Whole Smoked Turkey Leg
House Smoked Pork with Sweet Onions
Kalbi Beef Short Ribs
Wahiawa Pineapple Cheese Cake
Wassup Doc…#177 from yesterday. If you are coming after 9 p.m., it might be better for you to just order off of the menu.
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#53 aiyahhh. i’ll be away on that date.
sounds like a great place to party. oh yeah, the beers are really good stuff.
JJ said good passing and throwing strength is in the footwork, not in the arm.
Unlike norm, who was a lineman, JJ knows a little something about being a QB.
Here’s my gameplan:
(sans the all knowing strategies of the masses)
(cuz i not so akamai)
1. Tailgate with friends & family
2. Honor our Wounded Warriors
3. Cheer on our Warriors
4. Tailgate with friends & family
5. Give thanks
ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:
Hope to see chawan_cut and the MMs with signs extolling the “Fighting Sue” tonight. Johnny Cash did sing a song about a man called Sue, Chicken Grease would know!?
#60 hmmm, ss has terrible footwork. best throwing qb at UH: jarrett arakawa.
The inferiority complex runs strong among the braddahs. Those who can, do. Those who can’t, they employ sarcasm.
Sarcasm, by the way, is the clearest sign of a dull wit.
#62 miss chawan_cut ‘s football videos on youtube…guess no mo highlights
u so smut lol
see exhibit 66
I wonder if San Jose State’s Mike McIntyre will be a candidate for the Cal HC job? Seems to be someone who is able to make do and get with little resources, although it took some time and patience.
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Getting 4.5 million from a BCS Bowl to dig yourself out of the red is technically not being in good financial shape.
True financial โhealthโ stems from a solid flow based on literally what you have going for you and what you can count on every fiscal year.
The Sugar Bowl money.. (in an ideal financial situation for UH) should have been โbonus moneyโ and not money to dig yourself out of a hole for a short period.
#68 san jose is probably one of the hardest places to run a winning fbs program in conus, but what about gary andersen at utah st?
speaking of clearest signs…let me be clear sans sarcasm
I honor our Wounded Warriors with a heavy heart as it has touched home this week. My cousin and her husband Sgt. Major Willie Lubbers were on the wounded veteran float in Texas that got hit by the train. Willie died and my cousin, who was in critical is now stable, but has severe injuries and will be going through extensive rehabilitation for a long time. Her parents were vacationing at my house the day before it happened. Willie was a 3 tour veteran in Afghanistan with the Special Forces. We are honoring Willie this week and pray for all those affected by the tragedy. Give thanks everyone…give thanks.
texas a&m’s annual deficit is greater than double UH’s accumulated deficit. difference is a&m gets help from the texas legislature and BIG time donors.
๐ morning everyone
I humbly ask for prayer warriors to send healing messages to Akua for my brother. You may remember him from the tgates he has participated in. He luvs dem warriors and makes it over from Kauai when ever he can. He was admitted to the hospital and had surgery over the weekend.
Mahalo from my family and Blessed Thanksgiving to all
Aloha haka, to you and your Ohana
e kala mai for da interruption
Aloha koakane
Aloha Kakahiaka!
Sean Schroeder should not be cleared to play. I worry for his brain…
Football is not worth your life. Coaches – Please think of the students first.
And he’s not the only wounded Warrior I’m worried about.
How appropriate the uni’s are for this game.
God Bless!
Prayers for koakane’s brother!!!
omg… God Bless, haka. Heavenly consolation to your ohana.
Prayers to you and your family koakane.
For those of you who don’t want Boise back, why would you not want UH to be in a stronger conference? With Boise, BYU, and SDSU, that makes the conference stronger. Yeah, a lot of people don’t like Boise, but come on, it makes for a better conference. Play up!
Texas A&M has one of the largest endowments in the country. And I assure you, they do not get money from the Texas legislature for athletics.
Possible candidates for Cal job.
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/jeff-tedford-fired-watch/2012/11/16/3657298/jeff-tedford-cal-football-head-coaching-search-chris-petersen-hue-jackson-ron-rivera
Yep. Prayers for koakane’s brother and haka’s ohana as well.
mahalo d1shima, liz, all…
#64 . . . those who don’t recognize or understand sarcasm and take it to heart are the ones with “a dull wit.” People who don’t like sarcasm tend to be sensitive and take things too literally. Of course, there are those that use sarcasm for humor, and others that use it to insult. I prefer the humorous version.
Prayers to the Haka and Koakane family.
#72 Haka,
What a touching account. Sure puts things in perspective. Much love to your family.
Indeed, that art of sarcasm is a very hard to master.
Did you know that Charlie Weis, in addition to the money he is receiving from Kansas, Weis continues to get huge termination payments from Notre Dame, which fired him as head coach in December 2009. He received $2,054,744 from Notre Dame during the 2010 calendar year “under a separation agreement that includes additional annual payments through December 2015,” according to Notre Dame’s most recent federal tax return.
#60. That’s sarcasm, right?
The first time I heard …those who can do, those that can’t coach..
Is Will Gregory going to play? Every knows what he brings to the table and the type of plays he runs best among the backs/
Good morning everyone!
Prayers for Haka’s ohana and Koakane’s brother.
Last I heard, Gregory’s punishment was a one-game suspension, but it sounded like Chow was going to determine any further punishment will be based on his behavior moving forward. Could be wrong tho…
i wonder how well Chow knows Tedford. He would make a very good OC and qb coach.
If Coach Chow wants to salvage any of the last two remaining games he would be wise to reconsider David Graves as the QB. It appears that the O-line has limited protection for a pocket passer. And it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that a mobile QB has more of a chance. If we are going to re-visit “SS gives us the best opportunity for us to win”, then chances are we probably won’t win any more games. Would Coach Chow ever admit that he has been wrong? (Note: even the vaunted USC O-line couldn’t protect Matt Barkley)
Can’t afford Tedford unless UH is willing to pay him more than Chow.
It is being reported on the USC blog sites that some of USC’s bluechip verbal commits are bailing following USC’s loss to crosstown rival UCLA. My question would be “what young man would want to play for a 1-11 HAWAII WARRIOR team?” Don’t forget that young people are savy enough to check the on-line sites to find out about issues dealing with the coaches and players.
One puka puka!
Good luck to Darius in all of his future endeavors. Mahalo for being a Warrior.
Prayers for your brother koakane. Same to your ‘ohana, Lava. May the Lord be with all of you folks and your families.
Just read that Tedford’s contract has a clause stating if he’s terminated, the buyout (6.9 million) will be paid in installments. Guess thats similar to Charlie Weis’ contract with ND.
best wishes to Darius, bigger and better things, bro
So far, head coaching positions open at this point in the season.
-Kentucky
-Tennessee
-California
-Arkansas
-Western Michigan
-Idaho
-UTEP
Koakane…
Lots of aloha and prayers for your brother… may he recover quickly!
#99. Those that want to get on the field as quickly as possible. Chow is an equal opportunity coach except in maybe one position.
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I assume that Maryland’s Randy Edsall will be gone this season.
Haka,
So sorry to hear about your cousin’s accident… healing wishes for her and condolences for her husband’s ohana…
Idaho State football coach Mike Kramer has announced he is not retaining four assistant coaches after the team posted a 1-10 mark and went 0-8 in the Big Sky Conference.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/idaho-st-football-coach-fires-181244650–ncaaf.html
SMU offered Deion Sanders Jr.
http://smu.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1439328&PT=4&PR=2
I can see a law suit against UH for playing SS when they now know he is experiencing concussion like symptoms.
This is a tough young man’s life we’re putting in jeopardy. The concussion won’t kill him now, but his quality of life ahead is not favorable.
Shame in you Coach Chow!!!
Good luck Darius!! So glad you will be getting your college degree.
So if Schroeder is the starter.. how many will be in attendance through the turnstiles? The same 15K + 9000 imaginary friends as last time?
UH is too broke. Better to sue the NCAA.
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Shoko…
Just threaten to sue… that seems to work, too.
Last time UNLV played at Aloha Stadium, I think the attendence was over 30k.
119. You’re right. Threaten then take the settlement. Seems UH is good at doing that.
Along the lines of the discussion on player safety…
Ed Reed’s one-game suspension from yesterday was reversed today. Many views on ATH and PTI but the most cogent IMO came from Bomani Jones:
(paraphrasing)
If you make a hit like that (Reed’s hit vs the Steelers on SNF) you’ll be fined; if you let the pass get caught over the middle, you’re out of a job.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8657163/ed-reed-baltimore-ravens-suspension-reduced-50000-fine
Shoko
#120… I meant the last home game.. was that Boise? Sure looked like 15K and not the 24K they announced or 20K as reported later… I’d find it hard to believe that UNLV would be a greater draw.
TV showed the sideline in the sun, the shaded areas were pretty full.
25k seemed about right, although B$-You showed up widda lotta fans who thought this was their last chance to travel to Hawaii.
#41 (–see responses –)
1. get iosefa or who ever is back there to block on passing plays;
— They do, but have been ineffective, plus Gregory’s the better pass blocker (but was suspended Friday)
2. get four other runners into the backfield, running the ball to anyplace other than up the gut;
— I have no idea what you mean by 4 other runners (there’s only one football)
3. throw quick, st.louis like passes for five yards, and see what we can get with ATC yards;
— Many pass plays are for quick throws, but WRs aren’t getting open or there’s quick
pressure, so QB is forced to hold it longer
4. mix it up with play calling, add more passes, even on first and second downs
— See above comment
5. tell your D if anyone is seen not wrapping, you sit on the bench
— This isn’t peewee football. Plus there aren’t many healthy bodies on the bench
6. tell you D if you are standing around at the end of a play and your opponent is not on the ground, you sit on the bench
— see above comment
7. you have nearly 100 guys, use em all if you have to
— Chow has used almost all of them.
8. let higgins be higgins, no huddle, pass, pass, pass.
— Can’t pass, pass, pass if the OLine cannot block, block, block
…and ye shall have a winning game
123. Oh, you’re right. That 15k was against Boise. I was just thinking that the UNLV game might be even less.
Some fans know how to stand behind their team.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1BO0vAUD8&feature=fvwrel
A coupla weeks back one of the Talking Heads on the pre-game shows, a former DL, I believe, was saying that if he was to execute a tackle in the NFL today the way he was taught: square up, strike, wrap and drive through, he’d be fined or suspended.
No wonder cheerleaders no yell, “Hit ’em again, hit ’em again. Harder, harder!” anymore….
8. let higgins be higgins, no huddle, pass, pass, pass.
— Can’t pass, pass, pass if the OLine cannot block, block, block
Thats pretty funny.
Don’t understand Bright’s ending his career mid-season. Does this mean he won’t practice, suit up, stand on the sideline, take the Sr. Walk? Is he no longer a part of the team? Hurt or not, he should finish the season as part of the team.
“Clark County lawmakers have given conditional approval for transferring 60 acres to the University of Nevada, Las Vegas, for an $800 million domed football stadium.”
“The project is a joint venture of UNLV and Majestic Realty, the owner of the Silverton casino in Las Vegas and the developer behind Staples Center in Los Angeles.”
Hawaii needs to legalize gambling.
Shoko,
One article stated that it was the lowest attendance we’ve had in 35 years. BUT, if the 24K number announced first is correct, than the last Tulane game was lower. So, something doesn’t jive. The total attendance this year, however is much lower than recent years.
Word on the street at some local schools: “You don’t want to go to UH because of what’s going on with the football team.” What’s been happening to Mack’s recruits and other players and what they have been enduring this season. This is not the time to choose to play at UH.
Shoko,
They should legalize it for licensed cruise ships 5 miles or more out at sea… We’ll get more cruise ship business… Traffic won’t be all that much impacted…. and won’t have to build out too much, too.
Oh.. and a Lotto or Powerball, of course… ๐
Sports betting update…
UH vs UNLV
LVH Opened at UH (+3.5) today.
Overseas Consensus opened UH (-1) yesterday… now (+3.5)
UNLV starting QB Nick Sherry doubtful (back). Didn’t play last week. #2 QB Herring been taking all snaps in practice.
I always thought if Hawaii is going to legalize gambling, they should zone it out to beach resort properties, where there is an abundance of tourist. That way, you won’t find casinos in populated areas with locals and most of the gambling revenues would come from visitors.
But I’m sure the issue of legalized gambling will arise once again, just like the legalization of marijuana.
132. You know, I’m beginning to think that the Tulane game last season might have been lower than this year’s Boise game. According to one source, this year’s Boise game recorded 29k and the Tulane game registered 27k. These numbers might be tickets sold, rather than actual attendence.
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#131 Yeah, It’s been all over the radio here in Vegas. Pretty exciting for Vegas. 60,000 seats is way too big for UNLV, but it’s being designed for potential Final Four’s and as a major concert venue. Wouldn’t be surprised if Vegas gets a MLS soccer team also (which actually makes the most sense for pro team because of the Hispanic population).
This stadium proposal was passed by regents earlier this year and now Clark County has approved. It’s about time the local politicians approved a stadium project. They’ve dropped the ball on a couple privately funded stadiums in the past few years.
Condolence to Sgt. Major Willie Lubbers family and Prayers for Haka’s ohana and Koakane’s brother.
Our UH Warriors would be wearing New UA Uniform to honor all the Wounded Warriors around the world.
So anyone who havenโt attended UH Warriors @ Aloha this year, this is the game to honor one this Saturday vs. UNLV
GO Warriors!
#137… Maybe start sending letters to Larry Ellison now that he owns 98% of Lanai… I can see a thriving Casino/Resort for Pacific Rim tourists.
You would have to get either one (or more) Boyd Gaming, MGM, Sands, or Caesars involved, otherwise their lobbyists will shut down any Hawaii gaming proposal.
Warrior Dave….no lawsuit. If SS passed his concussion testing, and cleared to play, well…..he’s cleared to play.
That’s why they have the concussion testing…even local HS test ALL athletes in all sports, for obvious legal issues.
But agreed….if I was the coach, and Ive been told my QB has been suffering from concussion-like symptoms, even if he passed the test….he wouldnt play, especially when we’re 1-9, and well….he hasn’t played the greatest either.
Boise, SDSU and BYU back into the MWC?
If they are we shouldnโt have to pay for travel subsidy to any new members joining the MWC.
In fact they should pay us to travel to the Big Rock, Hawaii does 4 time a year the rest do it only once.
140. I think it was mentioned that the Nevada university system board of regents still has to approve it and the schools ability to obtain the funsing. Not to mention, the 60 acres is only part of the 150 acres needed to build the project. But, yea….its a good idea.
Casino’s builds not only another Casino but Arenas and Stadium as well.
With all the Hawaii gamblers flying daily to LV and dropping Big Bucks should name a section of the Arena and Stadium for Hawaiians Only.
I would think Boyd Gaming, MGM, Sands, or Caesars would probably be in favor of legalized gambling in Hawaii. Theywould have a better reach to foreign tourist like Japan, China, Aouth Korea and Singapore who have visitors that are willing to travel to Hawaii instead of Vegas.
Hope Bright leaving early not a start to replicate last year Basketball team
Which actually started with Zane not showing up for WAC Tournament in LV.
Then again it was for the better to clean house and get players who want to stay and play for Hawaii.
This year 7 Freshmen is a Breath of Fresh Air.
Then again it was for the better to clean house and get players who want to stay and play for Hawaii.
This year 7 Freshmen is a Breath of Fresh Air.
Navy having second thoughts of joining Big East.
“Weโve said since day one what is important to the Naval Academy is stability,โ Navy athletic director Chet Gladchuk said prior to Rutgersโ announcement, according to ESPN.com. โIf Rutgers is leaving, as has been widely reported, that would give reason for pause and cause for reevaluation. And I say reevaluation, not reconsideration, because conference affiliation is critical to the future of Navy football. What a conference can deliver in terms of television, scheduling and bowl affiliations is very important.โ
A winning and losing record tends to be the difference when some cite concern about a player’s health and ability to play the next game.
Thats how sports is whether people want to admit it or not.
When Colt got run over against Fresno State, face it… EVERYBODY was concerned if he would PLAY in Reno the following game.
Shoko,
UNLV BOR approved initial proposal in Feb.. Gave its full approval in May/June… Today it passed Clark County.
The UNLV stadium project still got some hurdles to clear before breaking ground, but it’s gotten farther than the previous proposals. There’s a multi-stadium project out in Henderson that won the bid for 450 acres of BLM land (south of the M Resort off the I-15) back in June.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/nov/20/county-weighing-land/
If I’m not mistaken, major issues gotta go through BOR first before it goes to the County. Same goes for UH.
What about players that wanted to play but weren’t given the opportunity. Or starters from the previous season and now are being “coached out the door”. Do you think that’s fair? It cuts both ways.
Okay, I think I’ve contributed enough to the blog to pat myself on the back for a good days work.
If only I was getting paid to do so.
My point is that our worded intensions and well-wishes arenโt so sparkly-clean when you get to the real root of what is really oneโs concern.
Sports is funny like that.
I for one firmly believe, based on what has been posted in the past is that if we were 9-1 or on the fringe of a bowl game and Schroeder or whoever the starter is is experiencing concussion-like symptoms, the mood of blog postings today would be more on the side of:
“Oh thank God, looks like he is ok to play”
As opposed to what is reality in a 1-9 record and a struggle-filled season for Schroeder which now translates as:
“Oh God, SAVE HIM!! Auwe on Chow for letting him even play if cleared…”
Like I said.. sports is funny.
Just got email on Rainbow Warrior basketball:
Almost forgot there’s a game tonight with ND no not Norte Dame but North Dakota.
It’s a Beach Party get free Neon (do they light up?) Green Sunglasses (UH Students Only) but they may still have Chevron towel to give away.
And also it’s fun to watch the fans dance away and win more bucks.
Men’s Basketball Wraps Up
Homestand Tonight
The University of Hawai’i Rainbow Warrior basketball team concludes its season-opening five-game homestand when it hosts North Dakota in non-conference action Tuesday, Nov. 20 at the Stan Sheriff Center. Tipoff is set for 7:00 p.m. (More)
Promotions: The California Hotel & Casino is the game sponsor and will award a Vacations Hawaii trip to Las Vegas at halftime. The student theme is โBeach Nightโ as students are encouraged to dress in beach attire. The first 200 students will receive neon green sunglasses.
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UH Student Theme Nights Set
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Student theme nights have been developed for 2012-13 University of Hawai`i men’s basketball home games to enhance the attendance and energy level in the UH student section and provide students the opportunity to win great prizes. The student theme for tonight’s game vs. North Dakota is โBeach Party Nightโ. The first 200 students will receive neon green sunglasses. (More)
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UH To Wear Special Under Armour
Football Uniforms Saturday
The University of Hawai’i Warrior football team will close out its two-game, season-ending homestand by hosting UNLV in a Mountain West contest, Saturday, Nov. 24 at Hawaiian Airlines Field at Aloha Stadium. Kick-off is 6:00 p.m. The game is dubbed โMilitary Nightโ and the Warriors will don special red, white, and blue uniforms and helmets by Under Armour.
The uniforms will be auctioned off following the game and proceeds will benefit the Wounded Warrior Project. The action begins at 10:00 p.m. on Saturday and runs through Sunday, Dec. 9 at HawaiiAthletics.com.
Watch Football Video – Special Under Armour Jerseys For Saturday’s Game; Auction Benefiting WWP
Promotions: Oceanic Time Warner Cable is the game sponsor.
The UH Band will honor the military at halftime with God Bless the USA and God Bless America sung by Staff Sergeant Samuel Hesch from the 111th Army National Guard Band.
Also, UH students have the chance to compete in the โQuarterback Challengeโ and win a Vacations Hawaii Trip to Las Vegas during the first timeout of the fourth quarter (register at Gate 7). One thousand (1,000) green & white pom poms will be distributed in the UH student sections. Fans are encouraged to visit the Chevron Family Fun Zone before the game in the parking lot across from the stadium ticket office. Also, register at Gate 4 or 6 to win the โBest Seats In the House,โ compliments of Papa John’s Pizza Hawaii and NAPA. The Farmers Hawaii Supa Bowzooka will be launching T-shirts into the stands between the first and second quarters.
If Gregory plays I expect Chow to run some plays out of the traditional pro set – two back I. He’s gotten away from that the last couple of games. Pretty sure he’s going to copy some Stanford plays. Run some to set up pass plays to the fullback.
Don’t know how Air Force did it but I hope Chow knows how to correct the amount of penetration AF got on our running plays. Joey rarely got into gear. Wonder if there’s some kind of key the D is reading that says we’re going to run.
153. Thanks for the link. Anyway, its a long time coming for a project such as this. After all, this is Vegas!
The box man in the chain gang signals, “Dis One!”
(sorry, I’m not one to criticize the HC, but that was too easy!)
Gotta hand it to Gib, doing a good job along with Dave Shoji in getting those students out to the arena.
Nice touch added to home basketball games with the PA announcer introducing the “Manoa Maniacs” as the 6th man on the floor as part of introducing the starting line-up.
@#161, Kevin: Also, the team after the game is making effort to acknowledge the student section by pointing or giving “fives”.
We hope more students will join tonight’s Beach Party
This year team will be exciting to watch after Illinois game buzz beater.
Lost my voice the next day.
Reading the state of Big East and Mountain West Conference would be on equal footing for playoffs by BCS decision:
Does that mean if BSU and SDSU decided to retrun to MWC that SJS and Utah Stae will be out the door again?
Just hope Hawaii don’t get left out again as only Football team in MWC.
Vander is real good at that, very animated towards the student-section. Got chicken-skin seeing him and nearly half the team rush towards the student-section after he nailed that buzzer-beater in regulation to send it into OT.
That is what the college atmosphere is all about!
Also glad they are capitalizing on Fotu’s hair style as well. The afro wigs were a huge hit with the students and… office secretary Bobbie Omoto!!! ๐
d1. Any idea how AF did what they did to get into our backfield so easily. Hitting any particular gap hard or running stunts or blitzes.
Mikey,
Very questionable for the ONLY football-only school in the MWC yeah?
Still better than getting stuck in the WAC…
Shoko,
UNLV BOR approved initial proposal in Feb.. Gave its full approval in May/June… Today it passed Clark County for 60 acres land use. The stadium structure is only about 10-11 acres, it’s the parking is where the land is needed.
The UNLV stadium project still got some hurdles to clear before breaking ground (mainly traffic issues), but it’s gotten farther than the previous proposals. There is a There’s a multi-stadium project out in Henderson that won the bid for 450 acres of BLM land (south of the M Resort off the I-15) back in June.
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012/nov/20/county-weighing-land/
If I’m not mistaken, major issues gotta go through BOR first before it goes to the County. Same goes for UH.
My ultimate dream is to be super rich and fund an on campus stadium at UH. There’s enough space to put a 40k-45k seat stadium on Cooke Field or build on the practice fields/softball field and build into the cliff dividing lower campus and Gateway/Friel/Johnson Halls. Then you could add a couple levels to the quarry parking garage and build a second garage where the ROTC portables and the hidden golf short game area behind Murakami Stadium. Then you re-route Lower Campus Rd to accommodate for the traffic. Then you can charge premium garage parking and a smaller fee for upper campus for added revenue. That way parking, food/bev revenue goes to UH, instead of Aloha Stadium.
That way drunk students can walk home, vs drive home… so there’s a safety improvement! Plus, UH could schedule Day/Night double headers with the other sports… which would boost attendance (thus adding more revenue)
Nope. I only go for watch the cheerleaders, try scoop one free t-shirt, and wonder if the commercial guy going wear red gloves!
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Former UH Athlete,
So where will the soccer practice field and softball stadium go?
Had pretty good student attendance at the football games for the first few home gamesโฆ then we all know what happened.
And people cannot really blame students when the masses themselves of similar tax-brackets stop showing up as well.
Also, you can re-route lower campus road all you like, but how will private funds effect the C&C infrastructure to accommodate for the in and out flow with the one freeway off ramp to University Avenue and the on ramp from lower campus onto H1 east and west bound?
Gonna need C&C influence to work that out.
Lower Campus is no longer viable due to itโs lack of space for a on-campus stadium.
Would have been plausible decades ago, but not anymore.
Would be cheaper and more effective for private funds to be used to boost facilities and coaching salaries to improve the football program to evolve into something that will bring in fans and revenue based on the W-L record year in and year out.
#171, If a new stadium were built on Cooke Field, then the softball field and practice fields won’t be affected unless the Lower Campus Rd is widened significantly.
If built on the practice fields… Cooke Field would be the primary practice field. You could probably still salvage the softball stadium if the football stadium is small enough. Point is, it is possible, and if at some point a campus stadium were to become a reality… they’ll make it work. Within the bowels of the new stadium would have new offices for the athletic department and coaches offices for all sports, new training room and football only weight room. Then the basketball/volleyball teams get’s their own gym at SSC.
Again, it’s a dream, but it’s not far from reality if the funding could be put together. Heck, maybe UH can turn to it’s architecture school for cheap labor on designing certain elements of the project.
Well if that’s word on the street and UH has to go to the continent to get players as those here refuse to stay and build, what some will say when UH starts finding success will be, “eh, how come no more local boys on da team?”
It is what it is, people have to choose whether the glass is half empty or half full, even when the wine (whine) is not to our standards. Coach’s style is not for everybody, that’s life, just like working. Not everybody going like the boss.
What about the land occupied by Hokulani Elementary? It seems to be in close proximity to several other elementary schools. I do like the idea of an on campus stadium, but the Manoa campus seems to fairly cluttered already. Hokulani is a hop, skip and a beer tap away from good times.
156 Kevin . . . that’s a very good point. I hope they don’t start SS because he has reported numerous concussion symptoms. ๐
Kevin: Still better than getting stuck in the WAC…
With all the Conference movement still to come
Hate to see UH back in secret 1999 Airport incident Hawaii got left behind
No need make the stadium as big as Aloha either. Add to the “demand” aspect of UH football.
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Tearing down Klum Gym and building a multi-story first class athletic training and academic facility would be a massive improvement for the student-athletes.
One floor to serve as the training area for treating and evaluating injuries and rehab following injuries, another for a larger academic facility for study-halls and tutoring sessions, two to three floors dedicated to weightroom and conditioning with lockers, showers and restrooms, and a lounge at the top floor.
There are 400+ student-athletes at UHM and the Nagatani Center and the Waterhouse Weightroom arenโt cutting it to meet todayโs demands and competing D1 programs.
I mean in June 2013, the womenโs locker room is finally getting post 1989-style lockers. Norm Chow talks about how he wouldnโt want to show recruits his locker rooms, ummmโฆ the wahine lockers make his look like something from Oregonโs facilitiesโฆ ๐
Build success from within.
Our student-athletes get by pretty well with what is available.
Imagine what they could do with MORE at their disposal?
Lilioukalani Elementary school was shut down.. is that big enough for a stadium?
Koakane – sending prayers for your brother
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@#174, former UH athlete: This may be before your time but the Cooke Field area is not the greatest because of potential flooding. I remember when it was the parking lot and cars got flooded. The area is very low and near the aquifer. Pumps take care of most of the storm water but only when they work. Drainage is dicey. I rather see your stadium at Ala Wai but golfers would have a cow. The only argument is that golf courses use more herbicide, pesticide, and fertilizer than the average farmer that’s why the canal looks like it does. I can remember when you could actually fish in the Ala Wai…and not glow! Check out the reef near any golf course…Waialae is a good example. Traffic is problematic…no matter where you put it.
darius bright and chow has a love n hate relationship….i gues it’s over now. bright said he can’t stand the coaching staff.
Deion Sanders Jr verbally committed to June Jones & SMU.
Can some of the smaller facilities in the lower campus area be re-located, combined into a new stadium? etc?
Of course.. you do realize that if a new stadium is to be built on campus they would have to rethink the stadium rail station in Halawa… ๐ And we know how much a study on the study for the study by a study committee would cost.
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It’s official – Rutgers football will be leaving the Big East.
Maryland’s departure to the Big 12 is being contested for failure to have open meeting by the Regents.
If enough teams leave the Big East there would they be able to leave without paying the penalty? Or will the remaning schools be very rich?
God bless your brother, you, and your family, koakane i5. Take care, much blessings. A Grease will pray.
Koakane: blessings and prayers for your brother and your Ohana!
Waiting for Garret to comment on the latest conference shake-up.
Conn and Louisville to the ACC?
Rutgers and Maryland to the Big 10(12)(14)
BYU the hope of the Big East? Will it make sense if BSU and SDSU abandon the Big East?
Will there be another meeting at the airport to talk about Hawaii? Do we have a $$$ clause should we be orphans again?
Only Garret can make sense of all this stuff!
CALL THE COACH with University of Hawaii Warrior head football coach Norm Chow will be on in a few minutes on ESPN 1420 on your AM dial.
Tune in.
Call up, on Oahu 296-1420.
Nytal.
200!
Heh, seems Cash did sing that, Annoddah Dave.
Will chawan_cut sing it for us? ๐
202. Palindrome of numbers!!!!!!!
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Aloha, everyone!
Wow, Haka! Devastating news! Prayers to your ‘ohana!
Prayers also for Koakane’s brother.
Heal up!
Hope that wasn’t one of you Tsaikos who called with that, well, it would lend too much credence to have called that a “rant” — sounded pretty undisciplined and disturbing you ask a Grease.
Chow handled that call well, so, you have been diffused, caller.
I’m sitting here watching “Matt Levi” files, the “Colt Brennan Story”…..
I think back to all his accomplishments as Qb @ UH, then I see and hear everything he has to say on this show…..
Should I feel bad about wanting to tell him “Shut the “F” up!!!”……?
Maybe, Bleed Green and White, he’s doing this for his inevitable . . . defense?
Let him talk. That’s all he pretty much has left. We all got to enjoy his best years.
Matt Levi’s reports are terrific. He doesn’t do ENOUGH investigative reporting; though, he’s a private eye or something nowadays, eh?
Drugs and alcohol can bring any good man down. Poor Colt.
(Chicken Grease)
I feel you sir – and I, like many, completely enjoyed watching Brennan’s heroics as QB under June Jones.
However, since he’s left, it almost seems he’s been on a constant slide.
Him sitting down with Levi, part of me waht’s to say “now that takes guts, considering all he’s been through”, but maybe it’s my “B-S Meter” running wild, because I find myself NOT believing a damn word he says. Not one.
I wish I would have heard him say, “I was stupid, a dumb ass for pissing it all way, even the Sugar Bowl, that’s on me too…”
Then I might feel a but better about the rest of the non-sense he babbled about.
(nanakuli)
Really?
I totally appreciate we all have opinions here, but drugs and alcohol, please don’t tell me stuff like “it’s a disease, he couldn’t help himself.”
To me, that’s nothing but a bunch of cr*p!
Those that DO have problems with drugs and alcohol, too easily claim it’s a “disease that took over me”!?!?!?!
Very true, hear hear, Bleed Green and White.
more like a damn choice if you ask me……sick of that damn disease excuse.
Again, just my opinion!
My God…. 35-13… Bows gonna run all over this team…
Wait so people with problems with alcohol are responsible for that???
I thought the alcohol itself is a problem? I mean by those people’s logic, everyone that took one drink should be out causing havoc and killing people.
I had two beers on Saturday and drove home but I didnt wreck my car… what went wrong?
I need help figuring this out.
Koakane ~
Prayers for your brother. He & I enjoyed talking about the way things were on Kauai back in the day. Some folks are STILL in that mode! Hehehe…
His country style preparation of meats for the grill was what made the world a better place for Tsaiko’s. His support of the Warrior team was like that of a proud grandpa. His choice of adult beverages as compared to you (kid braddah) was unmatched!
Here’s to a speedy recovery!
Happy Thanksgiving to the football team,coaches
and staff!!!!!!!! Imua beat UNLV!!!!!
Happy Thanksgiving!
I have sweet potato pie at my house… ๐
GO WARRIORS!!!
Hey, Slugger!! Tha’s how!!ow!!! Get those foods ready. Enjoy thou Thanksgiving, no need be these kooky koos waiting since last week to, what? Buy more clutter. Anyway, everyone know the stores put out all the stuff they ne’er when sell all year long out first, bwaahahahah. ๐
C’mon, b-ball Warriors, no let up, no let up!!!!!!!!
Install 30,000 temporary steel bleachers at Cooke/Ching Field. When the Warriors start winning and casual fans return, build permanent bleachers. The savings make sense for a cash strapped athletic department (so long Aloha Stadium). Something along the lines of Utah’s Rice Eccles stadium (45,000) would be the eventual goal. This would have to be done with private donations and an aggressive fund raising drive, as the general public would never support such an expenditure with taxpayers money. This would mean that a lot of fans would be able to walk or bus to the game if it’s on campus.
Or . . . rail it there!!!! [!] ๐
DII wouldn’t be so bad, too, you know? Been to some pally’s schools’ DII football games (no, not players; regular students) o’er ther’ Mainland . . . those DII games get ROCKIN’. Great turnout, lot of student pride, spirit, lotta laughs. Don’t have to walk through 3 different dimensions to get back to your car at the end of the game.
C’mon b-ball Warriors, too fu(kin’ close this score, FUUUUU(K!!!!!
Oh, $#17, sorry, gomen na sai [a Grease bows deeply in regret.)
Forty-fo-two!!!
#181
Amen!!! I used to play pick up games at Klum and it was like playing on a slip n slide. Gym 1 & 2 are just good enough to get by. Klum gm is completely obsolete and should be demolished. If I had the $$$, I would build a top notch weight room facility and upgrade the Nagatani Center. I spent a ton of time there but there needs to be upgrades… it’s very small
The locker rooms are pretty awful (at least when I was there 10 years ago). The athletic weight room is functional, but small. It’s far below average standards for good football programs.
Regarding the doubters about my lower campus stadium dream… We have an engineering school. I’m sure they can figure out the flood zone water table issue. Wth the stadium, many of the lower campus offices/portable buildings will ge integrated into the stadium… Many on campus stadiums have offices for the ATletic department. So that clears room for expansion.
If Wazzu (my parents alma mater) can have an Martin stadium (on campus) with no actual parking lot. I can guarantee UH can make a lower campus stadium work. WSU uses their campus parking for game day parking. you gotta walk a little but it totally adds to the experience walking around campus and seeing the school colors all over the place.
Yeah, I know, it’s been a rough football season for my family. Just to add to my misery, I’m a Charger fans and they suck too. At least I college BB is back and UH is very exciting this year and My hometown Gonzaga looks like a top 10 team this year.
UH desperately needs to upgrade facilities, but lacks he funds to do so on its own. UH needs donors to help…..
Too bad UH doesn’t have Punahou or Iolani’s donors helping the school.
hi my bloggy friend, a Grease! what is 44-2?
why is colt apologizing for da sugga bowl?
Great facilities helps recruiting, but no money to build. You need good players to sell more tickets to raise money to build facilities.
It’s the old, “what came first, the chicken or the egg” scenario regarding building facilities…
Unfortunately for UH, the chickens are all at the Filipino house getting ready to scrap in Waimanalo, and there’s no Foodland close enough to get eggs (although my in-laws prefer Times)
#218 SLUGGER – what was your address again? ๐
Um . . . answer: a UH football score, if not “42”? Bwahahah, hey, let’s laugh at this sometimes. ๐
Howdy, SAWARRIOR . . . bit of lull in politics and collegiate football almost pau.
thank god college football is soon to end, i dont think i can take much more. hawaii MBB looking good, im happy with their progress.
UH needs to revamp its fund raising strategy by reaching out into the community. Given the dilapidated conditions of UH campuses, I don’t see any taxpayer’s money going for something like upgrading athletic facilities. A temporary stadium on campus needs to be at least 30K to meet NCAA requirements for a Division IA program. If Chow can get this program to a .500 team next year, you could draw upwards of 30K regularly.
As crazy as it sounds, sometimes you have to take a step backwards in order to move forward.
Keep in mind that the land that the current stadium is on will probably go back to the Federal Government if a stadium is built elsewhere. So, wherever they decide to put the new stadium may be the last place it will ever be.
Yup. Focusing on a 20-30K stadium on land that is cluttered while not prioritizing obtaining private and legislative funds to build the resources to train and educate student-athletes and to lure talented prospects to play various sports for UH is indeed thinking backwards.
What does a bare bones stadium like that gonna cost? $30 million? TC Ching costs 13 mil. Then the suggested unfrastructure modifications like raising the parking garage, adjusting on ramps and off ramps to fit the traffic coming in and out?????
Building a top notch athletic and academic training and education facility will be cheap compared to all that and you solidify your basic infrastructure across the board in developing student-athletes and having something nice to present to recruits.
Giving student-athletes a great place like that also should help in developing pride in the future which should lead to future donors via alumni connections.
Bleed Green and White,
I know it is your opinion, and you are entitled to it, but I must also give mine.
Alcoholism and substance abuse is not a load of crap.
YES. Starting to use IS a choice. Addiction or dependency is a completely different thing. Not everyone gets addicted and not everyone becomes dependent. But before you make careless comments about it being some kind of joke, or “BS,” do a little research. I may not have sympathy for the “disease” excuse, but I do have empathy. And stopping is definitely not as simple as mind over matter as it appears some here think. Call it whatever you want . . . disease, illness, condition, whatever. Just fight it. It is real and won’t go away by itself.
Aloha, Tsaiko ohana!
I know everybody likes the idea of a on-campus stadium, but lots of smart people have looked at that and it really doesn’t work.
Traffic on game day at Aloha Stadium is bad; that same traffic converging on Dole and University would paralyze downtown Honolulu and H-1.
And stadiums don’t make money; generally, they lose money so it would just be another drain on the UH budget.
And squeezing in a stadium would screw up the facilities for a lot of other programs in the Quarry.
Back to lurking…esme woosh
Ok you want a on campus 40,000 stadium, you will need at least $700,000,000.00 to a $1000,000,000.00. It can be done for a price. Here it is
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a58/pomai44/renovation.jpg
As it stands, the majority of the fans will not tolerate temporary bleachers and that just doesnt present a serious D1 facade. Bad for recruiting.
UH cannot be so afraid to go after CIP funds needed to upgrade things we are decades behind on.
UH depends on programs to succeed to draw money, to succeed you need the student-athletes and coaches around to produce winning programs, to get that you need to present to them a proper D1 environment to thrive in.
Its a wonder some UH coaches are able succeed the way they do considering what is in front of them and in the back of their minds and its a wonder how we manage to land great talent in various sports.
Personally, would rather die kicking and screaming to get 10-15 million to build a top notch multi-floor academic and athletic training and education center/facility where Klum Gym stands now than shell out puka shells for some aluminum grandstands and dealing with parking and tailgating chaos because it “seems” impossible to get that funding.
It may seem impossible, but that remains to be seen…. we have yet to hire a new/different AD after all…. *ahem*
MBB has to work on 2nd half play. outscored by 13 by Illinois and 10 by SDS.
Stadium talk is like uniform talk. Fun to bring up from time to time.
Kevin: Points well taken. Good questions. I don’t believe it would cost that much to construct, could be wrong, though. I don’t know which is worse – having a full stadium of 30K on campus as opposed to having that many at Aloha where it would look somewhat empty.
So the options to move UH athletics in the right direction with regards to an on campus facility and investment looks like this, based on today’s blog comments:
-Build a 25-30K stadium at an astronomical cost to accomodate the proper and expected traffic flow.
-Build a temporary stadium around Ching Field (which will already have some grandstands)
-Seek anywhere between $10-15 million to build a multi-level multi-purpose athletic and academic training facility with a student-athlete lounge to enhance the academic and athletic talents of current student-athletes while attracting recruits.
Old School Dave,
I think at this point, what looks worse is what we have to offer to the current young men and women that play for UH and for those we want to come to play for UH.
Honestly, if the land at lower campus were twice as big, then I think more people, like myself would be more open to a new stadium on campus, but of course the on ramps and off ramps to and from the campus would have to be much more sufficient than what they are now.
The problem of a 50K stadium at only 30K full will solve itself once:
-We have nice on campus training facilities to attract prospects and coaches and to ensure the proper athletic and academic progress of the kids we have at UH Manoa now.
-Seek anywhere between $10-15 million to build a multi-level multi-purpose athletic and academic training facility with a student-athlete lounge to enhance the academic and athletic talents of current student-athletes while attracting recruits.
^^^ da winnas
kev-1 you are right it is all talk. Our state government and UH will never have the kind of money it would take to build a stadium in the lower campus area. If our state clowns were smart they would have already rebuilt Aloha stadium to a 75,000 capacity to get a super bowl here and keep the pro bowl alive and well here. There is no better place on the island for the stadium then where it is right now. It is centrally located for all areas of the island.
Diogenes Sinope ~
hahaha…
I had some nice guests last year who came to have a piece of sweet potato pie…
Hope you all have a wonderful meal with friends. Mahalo Ke Akua for the Tsaiko ‘ohana.
Night!
Kevin is right on, invest the money in on campus training facilities, all new up to date locker rooms for all sports and then take a trip out to a new pro stadium would do wonders for recruiting.
Just anything that having to look at SLUM gym. My God.. I wonder if UH coaches bring in their official visits past that thing and next to it are the portables… BLECH…
Plus I giggle sometimes at how that corner of Klum Gym just shoots right out over lower campus road over the right lane heading into campus. If people have seen this, Im just waiting for one of those Roberts Hawaii buses to scrape that thing while trying to maneuver on that narrow road.
In fact, tear down the Na Koa and Letterwinners Club portables to make more room for the epic training facility.
That way, the Nagatani Academic Center and the Waterhouse weight room can support Na Koa and the Letterwinners Club. Much swankier local than a portable right?
Ok enough of the fantasizing … gonna be more depressing with each year nothing happens.
I mean it will be the year 2013 and only now the softball stadium will have modern day lighting (May 2013 knocks on wood) and the womens locker room will have post 1989 lockers sans mildew and rust (June 2013).
Whoa! Danica Patrick is getting divorced. Gotta go talk to the wife to see if I can get myself back on the market.
#239 what is sds?
Boise and SDSU staying with Big East…
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/11/21/2354716/kustra-boise-state-stands-firm.html
Translation…scared of Hawaii
gobows…
Probably meant NDS…
SDS is next month at this time…
Kevin: An upgrade to the training facilities would also do wonders. Raise the funds for a Football Complex facility. Knock down Klum Gym or build it where the portables are next to Murakami Stadium (ROTC and ESL Program). Utah State has started construction of its new 20,000 sq ft Strength and Conditioning Center. Things like this are who UH will have to contend with in staying competitive. All funding came from private donors.
http://www.usu.edu/ust/index.cfm?article=51205
Interesting to note that three WAC HCs are mentioned as possible candidates to replace Jeff Tedford at CAL.
Sonny Dykes – LA TECH
Mike McIntyre – SJSU
Gary Andersen – USU
Pomai, the Pro Bowl may be abolished by the NFL in the next few years, so expanding Aloha would be a waste of money. None of the stars want to be there and the game itself is a joke. They only play in the Pro Bowl because they can bring their families on vacation.
UH can’t build a stadium on campus unless there’s a huge donor involved because Hawaii is too small of a market for corporate advertising rights to cover enough of the bill. Just shooting from the hip… I would guess that a lower campus stadium would cost $600M to build and re-configure the parking and Lower Campus Rd + any offices needed relocation. UNLV’s proposed 60k seat dome is about $800+Million, but will feature state of the art amenities/features designed to bring in top of the line sporting/concert events (They will be trying to get Final Fours and SuperBowls). Domes cost a lot more than open stadiums, and UH would probably only need 40k seats, and do not need A+ amenities. So the actual structure costs would be at least $100-$150 Million cheaper to build. If UH doesn’t expand the quarry garage or do much major renovation to lower campus, they could probably get the deal done for under $500 million, but that’s a pure slightly educated guess.
Mahalo Ted for asking some very good hard questions on Call the Coach…
Hope the Coach really ponders on them, reflects, before dismissing them. I think they were very valid question and the replies feeble without substance.
253 Laulau: Or maybe it is similar to JJ saying “he” was not talking to SMU, when his agent was. Technically, he was not telling us a lie.
#256, given what they’ve accomplished at their respective schools, they fully deserve to get looks at BCS programs.
Dykes took a perennial loser and turned them into a high powered machine (took 3 years)
McIntyre probably pulled off the most amazing feat of all at SJSU. After going 1-12 his first year… they have one of their best seasons in their history in 2012. SJSU has been a laughing stock program for it’s entire existence until McIntyre changed the culture.
Anderson took another terrible program and turned into a winner. Like Dykes and McIntyre, it’s taken 3 years to get them where they are now.
Dykes, Anderson, and McIntyre went a combined (10-27) they’re 1st years at their schools. Chow’s entering a similar situation as they did. All of these coaches inherited teams with poor talent and had to change the culture of the program.
In spite of all UH’s struggles this year… The one thing that shows me that UH will be ok in a few years (once Chow has his guys and his offense fully installed) is that the team is still fighting and playing hard for 60 minutes and it appears they have bought into what Chow’s been preaching. I don’t see the team packing it in or quitting on Chow (which happens at many schools when there’s a coaching change).
253: followup, I still remember the Georgia fan patting me on the back, just before going to my seat at the Sugar Bowl……”Sorry to hear your coach is leaving”
Former UH Athlete:
Are any of those three coaches basing their programs on the pro set? Just asking.
NOT a “football” complex facility. An athletic/academic facility for ALL UH programs.
Did any of those coaches get blown out in all their games?
San Jose State, once upon a time, was very competitive. Rivalry games against Stanford. Would win some of those too. I can’t remember but I think it was in the 70s.
(Kevin & kev-1)
As previously stated, I do really appreciate your opinions, your thoughts.
I do, however, completely, whole heartedly, 100% disagree.
Idiots who get caught up in drug use, casual or not, addiction (so called) or not, are well, idiots.
As for drinking, trust me, I drink too, but I’m by no means an alcoholic, hardly the case. I’m not against drinking, I’m not against others that do drink, I apologize if that was what was taken from that.
My “beef” I guess, and this is all stemming from watching Colt tell his sad, rags to riches story, pretty much looking for sympathy, it made me ill.
Anyway, my “beef” is when those tales turn into “the drug use, or the drinking made me do it”, that’s when I get totally turned off.
(kev-1) As for the “addiction” argument you make, and trust me, I’m not ignorant, read it all, heard it all before…..
But I say that’s a load of crap! Hogwash! I gotta call B.S. on that.
Don’t be an idiot! Don’t be a dumb as*!
That’s my take.
I never refer to is as addictions, but “weakness”, that’s it, plain and simple, “weakness”!
This Saturday’s game uniforms would be auctioned off to benefit the Wounded Warriors Foundation (?). I think they could make more money if there was names on the back of the jerseys. Mike Edwards, or Joey Iosefa, or Marrell Jackson’s jerseys would gather a few bids. So will family members of players. Just the numbers, well……… Even if that player is not too well known or doesn’t have much playing time or none at all, maybe, the public can gather some jerseys for a cheap price and for a good cause too. If a parent buys one for their child, then that child will probably grow up a Warrior fan for life and will secretly admire whoevers name is on the jersey.
kev-1…be careful of what you wish for.
Aw, this was a very nice post. In concept I would like to put in writing like this moreover taking time and actual effort to make an excellent article but what can I say I procrastinate alot and under no circumstances seem to get one thing done.
Merry Thanksgiving Eve!
Really awesome post, highly useful and professionally written.. Good Work
Former UH Athlete as far as the pro bowl is concerned your right they play the game at half speed so they don’t get hurt. But there is a way to spice it up and have them play at full speed, right now they are paid 40,000 each for the winning team and 20,000 each for the loser. New deal “WINNER TAKE ALL” to the players “You think your good prove it”.
Good Wednesday Greetings Folks!
All the best to Bright! SS heed those headache warnings & take care!
Looking forward to Wounded Warrior game vs UNLV! Go Warriors!
My condolences to Haka’s family, that is so tragic a loss. My prayers for Koakane’s brother for complete healing!
So many good posts & posters above! Good reading what everyone has to share, many thoughts and ideas about how to improve UH athletics, sports, student learning and experience. I love the humor and the comradarie here, and how Tsaikos reach out to each other and support each other!
This Thanksgiving, I’m grateful for so much! We all get busy sometimes but don’t forget to thank everyone you hold dear! So, I’m thankful for Tsaikos and how welcoming everyone is, and for the five F’s (but another F for me would be Faith)!
Have a Blessed Thanksgiving Folks!
comraderie=camaraderie
I can never remember how to spell that one, so much for all the French classes that were forced on us ๐
Bleed Green and White ~
Re: Colt
You’ve given us your opinion on Colt’s ‘weakness.’ You sound really angry that he fell from grace for something like drinking & drugs. You express your disdain for his lame excuses and sense he used this report to garner sympathy for his personal problems. Ok, that’s your take on this, I understand.
I’m just curious what we should do with the body now that you’ve thrown him under the bus?
Tsaiko Nation ~
Re: Colt
We’ve all seen what drugs can do to destroy people. All of us have personal stories to reflect on. All I’m saying is, find room in your heart this Thanksgiving eve for this young man who left his heart out there on that field for us.
Surely we can all can find some small kine forgiveness for him. I think Colt was baring his soul in the Levi report to let us know how sorry he is for disappointing us.
You’ve all felt the sadness as we watched the downward spiral of his life after UH. Let’s think of positive ways to give him a hand up.
I commend the Kahuku HS coach for stepping up to be the first person to lead the way back on the field. I thank coach Chow for allowing him on the sidelines for the Boise game.
Who knows, Colt just might show up at our next gathering like he did one Christmas!
Top of the morning mo and Kekoa! Time for a nap already ๐
(Hi Mo!)
Howzit Pomai!
pomai…
$40k isnt going to motivate Pro Bowl Players… $40k is nothing for NFL players. Ed Reed, who just had his suspension overturned makes $432,000 every week.
You’ve seen the fines handed out for violent hits… $50-60k doesn’t stop players from smashing a defenseless player.
Pomai ~
Re: Pro Bowl
You did mean winner take all…40 plus 20, right? 60k is nothing to sneeze at for a bonus vacation paycheck!
Hiyah Pomai & Kekoa!
Kekoa, I read the paper too late last night so missed that Matt Levi report with CB last night! It will be airing again Thursday so will definitely watch! My take even though have not seen show yet is, Colt messed up. He’s a known figure so it gets lots air time and news play. I don’t think any of us would like to have our screw ups as public as that, but “he who is without sin cast the first stone”. I’m thankful Colt is using his knowlege and passion for football at Kahuku! I hope he can continue to contribute to our community and recover physically, emotionally, and spiritually. That takes lots of support! I he does show at the Christmas party! Aunty mo has a hug for him!
I he= I hope he
Even after our fans dumped on him Colt still trying to give back to Hawaii… give em a chance. I agree with mo808. “he who is without sin cast the first stone”.
morning gang!
nice to see a lot of familiar faces this am
continued prayers for Koakane’s brother
Kekoa ~
Thank you for your depth of understanding and compassion shown in posts #275 and #276 regarding Colt Brennan.
I wonder if some of these posters truly know what it means to have 30 plus bones broken in your body and have head injuries so severe that it causes scarring on the brain. Trust me, if you’ve never had those kinds of injuries or if you are not a medical expert in the field of neurosurgery or neurology, YOU HAVE NO IDEA!
What Colt suffered is comparable to or more severe than what many of the members of our armed forces suffer in the heat of battle. Brave people, patriots all, who sought to serve our country and sacrificed so much in doing so. You’d be amazed at what many of these heroes, tens of thousands of them, have endured as a result and how many of them end up in prison or homelEss in the streets because of behavior changes brought on by PTSD and Traumatic Brain Injury (TBI). It is something which cannot be helped by those individuals, they are not making bad choices or excuses – their brains simply do not function properly and they cannot control how they behave. Their mechanisms for processing, reacting to and navigating through life are either severely impaired or non-existent. True, some can overcome the effects of TBI with proper support from loved ones and good medical care but more than 85% are unable to return to the quality of life they had, either in relationships or work, which they enjoyed prior to their injuries. Drug and achohol abuse becomes a SYMPTOM, not the cause of their TBI and they suffer as a result. Colt Brennan represents a text book case in this scenario. The NFL has many similar stories about strong, brave men who suffer concussions or other TBI and their lives are changed much for the worse as a result.
If anything, credit Colt Brennan for having the guts to share his story as a cautionary tale in some respects and as an explanation which he feels is due to the people of Hawai’i, whom he obviously loves deeply. It took a lot of courage to face the cameras and lay his soul bare like that. If you need a reference as to what Colt is truly like as a person, let’s not forget that this was a young man who left $25million or so on the NFL’s table so he could could return to Hawai’i and play to represent Hawai’i and its people during his UNDEFEATED senior season. Who here can say that they would have had the heart and the courage to do the same?
If you don’t think that his TBI and other injuries have played a major part in Colt’s “downward spiral” you are gravely misinformed. Colt gave his best to Hawai’i and deserves more respect than is being shown either by that “story” or by some posters here. He is not perfect and knows he has some challenges ahead. He is flawed hero, true, but it is only fair to him and to our state that his story be viewed with proper context and understanding.
I pray for Colt and his future and wish him all the best. I urge others to consider my points here and to do the same.
GO WARRIORS!!!
i like the idea of an academic and trainig facility … only thing is jm****’s alma mater will need to find a new venue for their indoor sports .. ๐
howzit dpk & hilosupaman – i’m with you guys on Colt
re: on campus stadium – to me will be a tough sell, not only cost but the current stadium will lose revenue’s w/o warrior football… might be cheaper to extend the rail all the way to manoa
As jojo would say –
Hi loa!
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