Congrats to Princess Leila

Congrats to the newest mom — Princess Leila.

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In the past couple of weeks the Rainbow Warriors have secured commitments from two East Coast players —cornerback Nick Nelson of Suitland High (District Heights, Md.) and strong safety Aaron Glover of Princess Anne High (Virginia Beach) — and they might not be done in that region.

Daronte’ Jones, who coaches the defensive secondary, has been the point recruiter in the D.C. area and, depending on the need, has several more prospects that could be added to the recruiting list. Jones was crucial in signing Kwamane Bowens (Virginia Beach) earlier this year.

Combined with special teams coordinator Chris “Demo” Demarest, who signed wideout Keith Kirkwood (Neptune, N.J.) to the 2013 class, the Warriors have shown a willingness to go far and wide in search of talent.

It would appear distance would be a hinderance in recruiting six time zones away (five during standard time). But the supply-and-demand factor — more talent than scholarship opportunities — works in UH’s favor. In addition, there are some players who want to experience a different environment during their college years.


  1. 3-Prong November 27, 2013 6:01 am

    Good Morning…..

    Starting to get ono for turkey and a football game.

  2. pu'uwai November 27, 2013 6:02 am

    Aloha kakahiaka. Imua Rainbow Warriors!!!

  3. 3-Prong November 27, 2013 6:03 am

    Why so slow? Only me?

  4. PurpleMaple November 27, 2013 6:03 am

    Good recruiting.

  5. PurpleMaple November 27, 2013 6:07 am

    Don’t forget another from Florida – DE Marquis Fairchild.

  6. Maddog50 November 27, 2013 6:12 am

    Can not coach size and speed!!!!! Go gettem!!!! Go Warriors!!!

  7. UHfan808 November 27, 2013 6:44 am

    Good hump day morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers!!! 😀

    Welcome new Warriors, Nick and Aaron!!

    Stupendous job and on the strategy, coaches!!

  8. Slugger November 27, 2013 6:44 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Good news on the recruiting front.


  9. Sean November 27, 2013 7:32 am

    Good morning!

    Top 10

  10. jm2375 November 27, 2013 7:42 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    And the gorging begins. Dessert “tasting” at work today.


  11. A-House November 27, 2013 7:44 am

    It appears that the Warriors current record of 0 – 11 is not scaring recruits away.

    They may be under the impression that what they see so far gives them an edge to possibly start as a true freshman or contribute in their first year – if so, hope more of the top Hawaii talent decide to stay home.

    Now, if only the coaching staff will do their job 2014 and beyond may reap great benefits for the football program.

    I do expect to see some changes!

  12. A-House November 27, 2013 7:46 am


    How’s the weather in the “high country”?

    I know changes have occurred, but loved Flagstaff area with all the towering pine trees when I passed by on my way home from the Army in September 1968 – drove Hwy 66 from Fort Knox to Oakland to ship my car home

  13. Steve Paschal November 27, 2013 7:46 am

    I applaud Coach Chow’s coaching staff in their recruiting efforts. Being a fan for over 40 years I’ve always wondered why the UH recruiters didn’t go further to acquire talent, particularly from the East coast where there always seemed to be a plethora of talent. I always thought it short sighted to simply assume that young men in the east wouldn’t want to come to a gorgeous Island festooned with equally gorgeous women of all types and attend a great educational institution. Of course now we know that there are and they are more than willing to come and play.

  14. A-House November 27, 2013 7:49 am

    Keep warm and dry to all Tsaikos in the Pacific Northwest, along the East Coast, and down the way in Texas and Alabama.

    and Happy Thanksgiving to all Tsaikos on the mainland and around the world!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. Marleysdad November 27, 2013 7:51 am


    ST, still haven’t heard back from you.

    Lot’s of cooking tomorrow & prep tonight. Friday I’ll be smoking more food for the final tailgate Saturday. This week we’ll eat like kings!

    Good luck BB warriors tonight!
    Go FB Warriors!

    Play smart, play fast, play hard!

  16. Last Call November 27, 2013 8:00 am

    Thanks to some of you who have confirmed that the SA web site has turned into a pig in the poke and has a loading problem with all the SA blogs.

    I knew it wasn’t my computer or my ISP or my 4g cellphone hot spot because everywhere else I go it’s like greased lighting.

    OK,so now I am going to push the Submit Comment button and you should see this around Christmas.:-)

  17. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 8:10 am

    3… Slow on my computer also. Hope SA isn’t using the same hardware as 1420am and MW website.

  18. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 8:18 am

    Daronte’ Jones and Demo are doing an amazing job recruiting east coast players and opening a new area for Hawaii to recruit. With competition for local recruits difficult, UH needs as many places as possible to draw players from.

    Chow’s doing a great job at keeping the top locals, so talentwise, UH will be in good shape in the next year or two.

    Chow must shake up the staff (namely TK) and he and Ben Jay must add more to the offensive staff so he’s not overloaded like he is now.

  19. NorthShoreFan November 27, 2013 8:29 am

    Great to hear the ballers are coming to play because of the coaches and not some fans…imho


    BTW….LINK TO THE WARRIOR BEAT HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY, REALLY SLOW…hope dis not ACA peeps doing da maintenance…lal..

  20. Ipu Man November 27, 2013 8:36 am

    Great Day Before Thanks Giving to all the world.
    What kid on the frigid east coast would NOT want to go to school in Hawaii,
    winning record or not. It is a dream offer.

  21. wasabi November 27, 2013 8:37 am

    18….yes coach chow is the best thing to EVER happen to Hawaii football…rah rah rah. Did you fall on your head????? Lol

  22. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 8:49 am

    Just perusing stats across a few different conferences… here’s something interesting in terms of UH’s offensive production and lack of defense.

    UH is way ahead of last year’s offensive production across the board. So the progress is apparent even though the trolls completely ignore that fact.

    The area of concern is clearly the defense. The offense has scored enough points to win plenty games. Here’s the numbers that I researched…

    Mountain West teams (excluding Hawaii):
    Win 82% of games when the offense scores over 27 points. (58-21)
    Win 83% of games when the offense scores over 35 points. (39-8)

    SEC teams:
    Win 85% of games when the offense scores over 27 points. (76-13)
    Win 88% of games when the offense scores over 35 points. (56-8)

    MAC teams:
    Win 89% of games when the offense scores over 27 points. (57-7)
    Win 98% of games when the offense scores over 35 points. (39-1)

    Hawaii is (0-6) when scoring over 27; (0-3) when scoring over 35. Not to mention 5 losses within one score. Using the avg win % over these three conference numbers scoring over 27 pts (again, excluding UH’s record), UH should have 5 wins going into the season finale if the defense shows any sort of life.

    Nobody is complaining if UH has 5 or 6 wins in the 2nd year of the rebuilding. Obviously progress isn’t going to be evenly distributed across 100+ size rosters. The offense has progressed, the defense has not… yet.

    I see the offense taking the next step in 2014 even without a surefire QB… The OLine gets a much needed infusion with red shirting linemen becoming available and with Kirkwood, Kemp, Iosefa, Lakalaka, Haynes all returning as seasoned veterans. Plus the recruits are looking promising for the long term future.

    Defensively, I like the underclassmen talent, and I like the red shirts coming available in 2014, and I like how the recruiting class is shaping up at this point. The question is if TK (assuming he’s back in 2014) can put it together and clean up the numerous schematic issues UH has had this year and for God’s sake, clean up the 3rd down defense because that’s been a killer.

  23. RainbowCliff November 27, 2013 8:53 am

    Good morning Tsaiko Nation, East Coast recruiting vs. West Coast Recruiting which one ?

    Well being BIAS I will ALWAYS go with west coast because of the MAJOR talent that is here and the competition between Northern California and Southern California athletes that plays all year long with plenty of Junior College Talent and High School talent that stretches all the way from San Diego to the Golden State bridge, not to mention the pop warner leagues here in Los Angeles were Gary Allen son has developed like his Dad into a top notch back in the San Bernadino area. UCLA, USC and all the Pac 12 schools are heavy on their roster with Southern California talent and this year with CIF playoffs on the way Orange County, Long Beach Poly, Crenshaw, Carson and South Central are having banner years with MAJOR young talent of sophomore and junior players coming up the ranks. I do believe UH wide receiver senior Gant comes from Long Beach Poly and they are still alive in the playoffs seeking another State Championship.

    There was a time when UH recruited heavily here in LA as that has been abyss for quite some years now as what I have been told getting LA kids now won’t work because of top notch schools in the Pac 12 has a stronger chance getting these STUDS to sign as oppose to UH who won’t bother because they won’t have a shot at getting them and don’t want to waste recruiting money flying a kid out of Southern California fearing that they will take the trip as a “joy ride” with no intention to sign. Well if that’s the case then UH football recruiting has their own agenda and judging from this season is it the talent or coaching that has everyone on this blog shaking their heads in disgust of this 0-11 season ?

    Time will tell but judging from a recent article that I have read states “UH is Bad, Broke and Losing Hope with the first line reading “The University of Hawaii football team is a program in crisis, wallowing in the morass of ineffectiveness that makes mediocrity a worthy goal, the team is LOSING fans and financing. Former Head Coach Greg McMackin left a void of proper FBS talent and Chow has been hard pressed to make up for that shortcoming, but it would be a mistake to say that hasn’t happened as there are some studs on this team. Chow will get a third year if for no other reason that a buyout would be too costly. Fred VonAppen got three years and Chow DESERVES the same opportunity. But he needs to start winning now.”

    Well let’s just hope that winning starts against Army and leads into 2014 with his “good east coast recruits” that are coming in and he has red shirts and returning lettermen that are eligible for next season. To the seniors that are leaving this tough season I applaud them for not quitting and giving all they could fighting through tough obstacles as it will build character in what ever endeavor they seek after their UH football career is said and done. Losing is TOUGH as I have been there with this same situation trying to get ONE as I will be cheering the boys on with a VICTORY against Army the last game of this 2013 football season for all players. Hopefully you GREAT folks of Tsaiko Nation will be there too!

    Aloha and have a Happy Thanksgiving !

  24. (Jesse)James November 27, 2013 8:54 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….Hope all have a great day!!!

    Happy Thanksgiving to all tomorrow!!!

    Thankful for all I have, including my Tsaiko Ohana. 🙂

    A reminder about this weeks T-gate, per homey, we are doing an All-American theme so hamburgers, hotdogs, apple pie, and Chevrolet….LOL

  25. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 9:02 am

    sorry… MWC teams have won 73% not 82% of games when scoring over 27…

  26. slenzi November 27, 2013 9:05 am

    Keep the faith! Go Warriors! Happy Thanksgiving to all!

  27. jm2375 November 27, 2013 9:16 am

    (J)J – does that mean I no can bring bp? 😆

  28. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 27, 2013 9:21 am

    Makes sense. You figure there are players here that want to experience life away in a different culture/city/climate etc. There are bound to be players on the mainland interested in playing and living in a different place.

    Welcome to the new recruits!

  29. (Jesse)James November 27, 2013 9:48 am

    JM####s…Ummm, I think that’s American…LMAO

    BTW, I have your shirt and will bring it to the T-gate… 🙂

  30. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 9:59 am

    Ultimately, UH dug their own hole by failing to negotiate an extension with JJ before the 2007 season and SMU offered, and failing to improve the facilities as JJ begged for. With the wild success of the 2007 season, the price tag to re-sign JJ went way higher that what UH could have gotten him for before 2007.

    But that was then… this is now.

    IF UH fires Chow… which is the popular sentiment because of the record, but here’s what will probably happen…. Most of Chow’s east coast recruits will decommit. UH would likely lose at least a few local recruits. Like any new coach, there’s little time to put together any sort of recruiting class, so the 2014 recruiting class will likely be a disaster, further setting UH back.

    With UH’s budget, and having to buy out the rest of Chow’s contract, it’s highly unlikely UH would pay the next guy more than what they are paying Chow, so let’s say $500k is what the next guy gets. At that pay level, you can eliminate any proven head coaches, and hot coordinators (McElwain, from Alabama to CSU, makes over a $1M and Deruyter, from TxA&M to Fresno, started at $600k+).

    That leaves career assistants with little/no HC experience, totally unproven young coordinators, lower division coaches (i.e. Bob Hauck), or failed retread head coaches (i.e. Bob Davie). UH has not had success with career assistants at this point (Von Appen, McMackin, and now Chow).

    Nick Rolovich is a popular choice for fans clinging to the past, but a walk-on pizza delivery boy (Moniz) beat out all of his scholarship QB recruits, which is highly disturbing. Plus it’s been a very poor first year for Rolo/Polian for Nevada-Reno. Still too early to tell how he’s going to turn out at Nevada-Reno and from what I’ve seen, he’s not a strong recruiter. Like Chow, he’s had several moments where his play calling has been criticized by UNR fans this year.

    Lower division coaches are very hit and miss, and they won’t have FBS level recruiting connections unless they hire very good assistants. Bad/retread HCs are what they are.

    No matter who the next coach is and offensive system, there’s still a QB problem that likely isn’t solved by 2014. If there’s a offensive system change, fans can go ahead and wipe out 2014 and 2015 seasons. AND there’s a decent chance the next guy is worse.

    That’s the likely scenario if Chow is shown the door.

  31. jm2375 November 27, 2013 10:02 am

    (J)J – ok, UHfan808 can pay you for it. 😆

  32. (Jesse)James November 27, 2013 10:02 am

    ST…I also have your shirts….Should I bring them to the Na Koa Banquet???

  33. Whats up November 27, 2013 10:33 am

    Seriously, Norm Chow will be the head coach next season no matter how much some of the Warrior faithful complain. Thats a given, plus firing a head coach after just 2 years is insane and down right stupid for any AD. It takes a lot longer than 2 years to rebuild a roster/program for even the best head coaches like Nick Saban. Year number 3 will be huge for Norm Chow just like it was for McMackin or any other head coach for that matter. Some of us need to calm down and don’t over react just yet about firing Chow. Next year will be the make or break it year for the Norm Chow era as Hawaii head coach and a Hawaii Bowl invite should be the minimum expected.

    Kaumeyer on the other hand better improve the defense against Army or it’s time for a replcement DC. The Hawaii offense cannot overcome the defenses lack to stop anything and giving up points at SAM’s Club bulk volume. This defense is so bad I don’t think even June Jones offensive fire power could out score any opponent with Kaumeyer horrible defense. The defense needs to be fixed now!

  34. Mrs. SB November 27, 2013 10:36 am

    Tailgate rumor – SailorBlue’s New Orleans gumbo is one the menu. And there will be a special treat for the Early Crew.

  35. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 10:38 am

    Did this website speed back up or is it just my iPhone?

    On my iPhone, this page is fast again.

  36. papajoe2 November 27, 2013 10:45 am

    #35 nah, still slow.

  37. Jonj November 27, 2013 10:51 am

    FUHA come on man! Everything you say is so contradicting! I’ve heard from you you like this team becuz it’s young and has talent. But in 2011 when we LOST a few games by a little points with a very young team, you wanted Mack fired. Moniz didn’t beat out Rolos recruits becuz he’s was 3rd behind Alexander and Rausch who both got injured! JJ left the QB cupboards empty! And you claim our offense is hot now! Ya this past game we had offense but throughout the season offense has only come in the 2nd and 4th quarter. Chows offense for the most part killed our defense! Te San Diego st game our D gave up 21pts in regulation and 7 pts came off a botch play. Where was Chows offense??? And you notice how our defense started giving us chances throughout the season when the offense started clicking?!?!? Fresno, unlv game is an example. Our D kept us in he USC and Oregon state game. And now in the end of the season when our DTs and DEs are best up. You want to fire TK. Where was chows offense in the Nevada, San Jose st and Utah state game???? His offense is the reason why we lost those games and the recent close games we lost becuz he horrible play calling and mis management of the clock!

  38. oneseason November 27, 2013 10:57 am

    Let’s Go Bows … beat Army!

    then looking to next season … a good set of home games would generally bode well for season ticket sales.

    As long as the HC and AD do their jobs and ensure a complete experienced coaching staff and the play calling is better than mediocre, the 2014-2015 season looks good for bowl eligibility. But if we get another year of … “everything is just fine, nothing to see here, move along” … ???

    30 Aug 2014: Hawaii vs. Washington (Aloha Stadium)
    06 Sep 2014: Hawaii vs. Oregon St. (Aloha Stadium)
    13 Sep 2014: Hawaii vs. Northern Iowa (Aloha Stadium)
    20 Sep 2014: Hawaii vs. Colorado (Road)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. Nevada (Aloha Stadium)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. UNLV (Aloha Stadium)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. Utah State (Aloha Stadium)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. Wyoming (Aloha Stadium)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. Colorado State (Road)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. Fresno State (Road)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. San Diego State (Road)
    XX TBD 2014: Hawaii vs. San Jose State (Road)

  39. Jonj November 27, 2013 10:57 am

    I can’t believe we have lowered our expectations so much that almost beating mediocre teams means the program is moving foward! For god sake we fired Mack becuz he missed out winning one more game an the lost 3-4 games by a couple points with a beat up and very young team! How many seniors where on offense that season… 3 I believe moniz, pollard (both who go injured) and Brett leonard.

  40. Jonj November 27, 2013 11:02 am

    Also I blame Numba one son!! Past 3 weeks he comes on here in close games and bachis us by saying we gonna win garens. Lol… Stop!!!!!!

  41. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 11:20 am

    Looking ahead to Saturday…

    Army is 3-7 for the year. Army only averages 20.8 points per game on the road this year. Army has surrendered an average of 40.1 ppg on the road.

    On the flip side, Army hasn’t faced a defense quite like UH’s, so I expect another high scoring, entertaining game.

    Spread is Hawaii (-7 or -7.5). Total 60.5

    If you gonna make a play, make sure to shop the number because the hook might be important as UH has played a bunch of tight games.

  42. jm2375 November 27, 2013 11:21 am

    Congrats to Princess Leila!

  43. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 11:24 am

    40… I noticed that too.

  44. Rite80 November 27, 2013 11:26 am

    Been following recruiting for some time now. Fact is if another division 1 school offers a scholarship our verbals decommit. In general the mainland recruits sign with UH because they have not received another scholarship offer. This means if UH wants to make noise on the field players will have to be coached up. The 3 and 20 two year record reflects a coaching staff incapable of doing this.

  45. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 11:29 am

    40. Probably the same guy who thinks he’s being creative by coming up with derogatory user names bashing Chow.

  46. dannyp November 27, 2013 11:42 am


    If UH fires Chow at worst we’ll end up Norwood who probably hires Kendal Briles as OC… If you guys think recruiting is good now IDK how y’all would react to having a legit top ten recruiter in the nation as OC.

  47. oneseason November 27, 2013 11:43 am

    From what I recall, at the beginning of the season, the defense and special teams were the only thing keeping us in the game. Because of the anemic offensive play calling, the the defense was on the field a long time (e.g. time of possession UH 20:10 versus Oregon State 39:50). I will be looking forward to a healthy defensive unit in 2014 that can count of the offensive play calling to even out the time of possession.

  48. markazulu November 27, 2013 11:45 am

    despite the record this season has been the most disappointing yet exciting season i’ve watched as a fan.

  49. markazulu November 27, 2013 11:49 am

    Also very proud of Sean Schroder he has been having a good season i think he is one of the toughest UH qb to play of all time.

  50. kapakahi November 27, 2013 11:50 am

    Wouldn’t get too excited yet about these verbal commitments……until these East Coast recruits (Glover, Nelson, Fairchild) actually take their official recruiting visits to UH.

    Previous East Coast signees (Kirkwood, Bowens, Philips, Jackson, Higdon, DSJ) didn’t commit to UH until after they tripped.

  51. kapakahi November 27, 2013 11:59 am

    The tough thing with regard to recruiting efforts this year is……that the local Class of 2014 HS prospects just doesn’t have many quality prospects available……compared with last year (Tulimaseali’i, Wa’a, Wily, Pagano, Savaiianaea, Koehler, Correa, Goeas, Failauga, etc.)…..and with the upcoming local Class of 2015 prospects ((Uluave, Kaumatule, Noa, Tafua, Fehoko, Ulu-Perry, Manu, etc.).

    Makes recruiting efforts more difficult this year since local prospects still comprise the core of the UH team. As such, hearing that only just a very few open scholie offers out to local HS prospects……all the rest have already committed to UH or elsewhere…….so will need to recruit effectively from the mainland.

    In addition to the East Coast, been hearing that UH coaches also looking at HS prospects in Texas, Utah, and Cali……as well as Cali JC transfers at DL, LB, and CB…….to address their most pressing need……which is perimeter defensive speed……which is usually rare any how any year among local HS prospects.

  52. st. anthony trojan November 27, 2013 12:02 pm

    REMINDER…. this is a new day….we can all VOTE again for Ms. Emily Hartong…
    the second place creeping up on her and cutting into her lead…let’s not be like our defense.. n let her down…lets get her sum numbers….that will insure her VICTORY IN THE POLLS…


    go do it now… n send to all ur friends… n ohana.. we need
    this on fb i posted on fb.. get ur kids n grand kids to do so also..

  53. d1shima November 27, 2013 12:03 pm

    Great Afternoon All!

    Congratulations to Princess Leila and her Prince Dougie!

  54. Whats up November 27, 2013 12:04 pm

    As painful as it was this season we watched a very young roster/team grow and are starting to play at a high level. The key word is “starting” but next season those freshman and sophomores will be experienced sophomores and juniors. Add the Juniors that turn Seniors next season with the redshirt/transfers and this team should be playing pretty darn well in 2014.

    We won’t know until Feb 2014 about who is the incoming talent as far as High School/ Transfers and JC recruits. But these 2014 better be ready to play from day one because there are still depth issues in all positions because of most of the holdover players are gone from the McMackin era.

  55. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 12:05 pm

    44.. If you’re correct and W-L record is that important to recruiting, how did UH land top local recruits Tulimasealii, Wily, Wa’a (all top 10 local recruits), plus Allen, Barker, Higdon, Henderson, Tupai, St Juste, and more with a 3-9 record and UH was way less competitive than this year?

    If W-L was that important, how on earth did McMackin only have 1 winning season in 4 years after UH had it’s most successful stretch ever? How does SJSU or Utah St attract players after being horrible forever? It’s not like MacIntyre or Anderson carried a big reputation entering their 1st years as HC. MacIntyre inherited a 2-10 team and went 1-12 his 1st year. So how did he recruit players to build SJSU to one of their best ever years in 2012?

    Recruiting is all about relationships and salesmanship. If the coach and the recruits family have a good relationship, the player will likely hold true to the commitment. No school is immune because of scholarship limits. That’s just a fact of life. The big selling point for bad teams is that a coach can advertise immediate playing time, and that is a big deal for recruits.

  56. d1shima November 27, 2013 12:09 pm


    (jes in case you luuking)

    56 – 14 d1shima

  57. wasabi November 27, 2013 12:15 pm

    39..incredible and I would have to say gullible. #122 and 4 on espn bottom ten…but they can see improvement. Feels like the Stepford Fans 🙂

  58. st. anthony trojan November 27, 2013 12:26 pm

    FUHA… YOU ARE SO RIGHT…” When you say…”Recruiting is all about relationships and salesmanship.”

    Seems there is no salesmanship in the marketing dept there in the sports dept..
    Very “WEAK PROMOTIONS” if ne in all sports..

    Get sumone in there that will fill that stadium.. no matter the record..forgot who it was on here posted he went to a game at the “termite palace” back when.. not to see the game… but to watch the “chariot races” n was hooked after that n became a fan…we definitely do not have the “sports fan” population to get it filled.. but we definitely do have the bodies there to fill it…
    Please…why cant sumone acknowledge what he said..n go n read that post.. n start to work in that direction..there is mucho time till next season….a good promotion man or womasn can fill that stadium for every home game..regardless of record..records only counts for sports fans…there are a million others out there.. ready to be converted..IMUA…

  59. oneseason November 27, 2013 12:29 pm

    According to Ferd’s article today (“Teams face ax if fiscal troubles continue”;
    “The option is a “last resort” as the department has three years to balance its books”) … UH Athletics will face the possibility of cuts with significant impact. And this makes no sense to me.

    1) UH hires a first time football HC who has two nearly win less seasons and only one FBS win.
    2) UH fires (basically) their AD and brings in someone with no familiarity with Hawaii.
    3) After two seasons, the AD and HC have failed to provide a complete coaching staff.

    The UH administration should consider student athletics to be an important element of the University. They should not damage to the athletics program. They should step up and correct the problems that are creating (and that, arguably, they created) the bad financial situation.

    Finally, a few million dollars looks like chump change. Why not look at why the salary cost per student is so high at UH Manoa versus other campuses … seriously … $15K – $20K per student sounds pretty high;

    Not sure if this is an apples to apples comparison, but the University of California number looks to be around $5K per student (“The faculty salary component of marginal cost for 2009-10 was $5,115 per student.”)

  60. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 12:30 pm

    48… 2013 UH is definitely the most entertaining winless team in college football history.

    Just to add salt in the wound… Northern Illinois passed Fresno St on the BCS rankings, and knocking Fresno out of the BCS bowl slot for non AQ teams. Looking at the potential MAC and MWC title games… Should both NIU and Fresno win, NIU’s win will be viewed as the better win because Buffalo/Bowling Green will have a better record going into the title game than Utah St/Boise St.

    It’s going to be tough for Fresno to pass NIU because the computers have NIU much higher than Fresno even though Fresno is higher in all human polls.

    Just my opinion, but I think NIU is better than Fresno, but both teams will lose handily in the BCS game they get assigned to unless they play the AAC winner.

  61. A-House November 27, 2013 12:40 pm


    with your 2014 schedule – I do hope that the MWC will allow UH to play Colorado St after Colorado – this will save a ton of ‘air” $$$ and climate adjustment for UH

    selfishly, it would be good for me to complete my ‘bucket list” of visiting all 3 “academies” and visiting the casinos in Central City and Blackhawk – got about 20 + casinos all grouped next to each other – distance between Central City and Blackhawk is 1/4 mile – all down hill.

    however, will the MWC be kind to UH? probably not!!!!

  62. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 12:41 pm

    58… As far as filling the stadium… need a winning team. Especially when Hawaii fans are very fair weathered. Probably need 3 or 4 winning seasons in a row to get attendance back up to 35k plus (actual attendance, not tickets sold).

    In order to have a winning team, you have to RECRUIT! No talent on field will have losing teams no matter how good the coaching.

    I’ve said this a bunch of times, but a recruiting class is a glimpse of the future 2-4 years out. Not the next year. Ole Miss had the best recruiting class in the nation last year, but their record isn’t much different than last year. Still losing to all the top SEC teams. That might change in a year or two, when the #1 recruiting class matures into upperclassmen.

  63. Jonj November 27, 2013 12:43 pm

    FUHA JJ burned bridges in local recruiting, Mack started rebuilding those bridges and now chows crossing those bridges. I will admit I like chows recruiting… But his coaching sucks! I say hire a new HC and keep demo, jones and tuioti. All those guys are the main recruiters! Demo’s special teams are amazing! Idk about jones coaching I think Miano was better and move Tuioti back to DL. What does he know about LBs???

  64. dannyp November 27, 2013 12:51 pm


    Powell is probably our best recruiter…

  65. A-House November 27, 2013 12:52 pm

    Vegas says UH by 6 points

    ha, with the current OC and DC and their choice of plays – I would take Army and the 6 points

    why not? heck I was in the Army!!!!!!

  66. Rodney November 27, 2013 1:06 pm

    Tsai What time is the turkey day scrimmage?
    Imua warriors!!!!

  67. gobows November 27, 2013 1:08 pm

    Idk about army, but sean and the boys wont have trouble scoring on senior night.

  68. DownSpout November 27, 2013 1:11 pm

    Bring in Miano as DC and Associate HC.

  69. st. anthony trojan November 27, 2013 1:21 pm

    FUHA…. ME DISAGREE WITH YOU…Can you tell me how many sellouts we had when we went undefeated…There is not enough sports fans here to fill that stadium..will always have malcontents sport fans with the coach…even if the was our lord…like Archie would say “case closed”….30 to 40 thousand stadium with a consistent winning team… maybe…to much politics in the system.. we had a decent coach.. with a perfect WAC record….to much flaws in the system…I guess old Hawaiian would say…”to much huki huki”… have you heard that before.. fits well huh…BUT DO APPRECIATE YOUR OPINION.. but will not buy it… sorry…IMUA

  70. Former UH Athlete November 27, 2013 1:44 pm

    69. I believe we had 2 sell outs in 2007. BSU and Washington. It only took 3 years of Colt Brennan lighting up defenses to get attendance over 40,000. 2006 team was a better team in my opinion but they played a tougher schedule.

    Aloha Stadium and 50,000 seats is too big for UH football, so I don’t really expect sellouts when the team is good. But 35,000 is reasonable when the team is 6-8 wins. Stadium issues are another argument for another time.

  71. jjay November 27, 2013 1:45 pm

    Mcmackin last year was at 6-7 not too shabby considering presently for two years we are now 3-20 , that is pitiful.

  72. oneseason November 27, 2013 1:45 pm

    #61 … requiring one flight for both and Colorado / Colorado St. games sounds like a good idea and something I would think the AD could help with. It seems a lot easier to me than playing “groveling for dollars” with Hawaii gazillionaires.

  73. Think2Much November 27, 2013 1:46 pm

    Its interesting to say that UH is expanding its reach to the east coast, west, coast, etc. but isn’t recruiting really limited to where coaches/recruiters have contacts? So if you don’t have any contact in, say Ohio, then you really don’t or can’t recruit there effectively.

    Regarding defense, wasn’t there a few years when UH struggled on D in the JJ years? Then they brought in Glanville and Mac and the D was competitive again. Isn’t that an indication that the coach makes a difference?

  74. Whats up November 27, 2013 1:56 pm

    The problem is that even though you think Demo, Jones, Tuioti are the main recruiters? They are great recruiters in there area of the United States that is there stomping ground. But these great recruiters are selling under Norm Chows name. Chow name alone has brought in some really good talent local and mainland. Tuioti recruited under Mcmuffin as well and didn’t land a 4 star Kennedy Tuimaesali or switched Lakalaka commit from UCLA or John Wa’a or Afoga Wily. Norm Chow national name recognition in college football media and fans is a real thing. I don’t believe there are that many coaches that are well known like a Nick Saban for the Hawaii cheap paycheck.

    I hear some rumblings from the fire Chow fans about Dino Babers and Norwood as possible head coaches after Chow. But being serious if Norwood or Babers took over for Chow with this roster full of Norm Chow Studs in 2015. Of course they would do well with the talent left by Norm Chow. No brainer! Unlike McMuffin leaving a not full roster of studs for Chow.

    But thats old news, What about the future? Do you really think once all Chow recruits leave or graduate that Babers and Norwood are going to recruit locally and mainland like Chow name is right now? I seriously doubt it? Hawaii has about a dozen commits already, do anybody really remember a time Hawaii has so many early commits during the McMackin era? Because I don’t?

    As we all found out the hard way when the June Jones talent left McMuffin after 2010 it’s wasn’t the same RnS team we knew and loved anymore. Mack couldn’t recruit at June Jones level. I’m not saying that if Chow stinks up the place next season he shouldn’t get fired. Because if Chow does stink up the joint next season, then hell yes he needs to go! But we should keep in mind that if UH hires a new head coach in 2015 recruiting will suffer unless we get a June Jones, Nick Saban, Les Miles or Urban Meyer type nationally respected and well known name coach. Hawaii is hard enough to recruit geographically and add the soft Rainbow nickname to make it harder for land 3-5 star mainland high school recruits as well.

    Norm Chow just needs to focus on being a head coach and time/game management. His offense is putting up points and yardage. The defense stinks okole though!

  75. oneseason November 27, 2013 1:57 pm

    #71 … especially when 2 of the 3 wins came against teams that were not fully FBS.

    2012 & 2013 seasons: 1-20 against fully FCS teams
    2010 & 2011 seasons: 14-10 against fully FCS teams

    It sure is hard for me to believe that something more than a few graduations and recruiting issues has not been at work here

  76. KapaaWarrior November 27, 2013 2:09 pm

    IT STARTS AND ENDS WITH THE OFFENSIVE LINE !!!!!!! Period !!!!! Fix that first !!!! Too many 3 and outs and not being able to sustain drives leaves our defense vulnerable to gassing out way to early. Our defense started strong but too many 3 and outs killed them throughout the year. O-Line Pass pro is horrible ! We need to recruit top notch offensive lineman and keep their buts in the film & weight room and better their cardio & footwork! Simple adjustments like blitz pick up and on the line adjustments to check with me calls were obviously hard for this unit to recognize! People are talking about getting rid of Chow? No ! IT STARTS WITH FIXING THIS OFFENSIVE LINE !

  77. Warrior Dave November 27, 2013 2:25 pm

    Congrats Princess on your newest addition.

  78. WAR November 27, 2013 2:29 pm

    What’s going to happen when Chow gets fired at the end of the season?

  79. cocobean November 27, 2013 2:38 pm

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Kaumeyer is made the scape goat. Listening to Ben Jay on his last appearances on TV and radio he commented that Chow still has his support. He further commented that he and Chow would have a meeting after the season. One of the topics BJ mentioned both times was “evaluating personnel.”

    I’m just reading between the lines but I have a gut feeling the BJ is going to ask Chow to let TK go. BJ knows an overwhelming majority of the fan bases is not satisfied with what has tranpired under Chow. He knows sentiments run high on both sides of the arguement whether to retain or replace Chow. I really think BJ believes a sacrificial lamb is order to appease those that want to see a change and that he won’t renew TK’s contract.

  80. Jonj November 27, 2013 2:45 pm

    74 what’s up

    How can u say he didn’t leave a roster full of studs when the only studs on this roster are Mack’s! Joey iosefa, gant, Harding, Clarke defense Samia, matageies, JHT, yap. I also think if our Defensive scheme was better Woodard, laurel, taimatuia and Daley would play more to their potential. And what about the studs that transferred or weren’t allowed to play Graves, amadi, Aussie OL, freshmen RB last season, and a few others. Also nobody thought Samia was a great pickup by Mack but look at him now he was a gem of that class.

  81. Jonj November 27, 2013 2:53 pm

    Mike Edwards

  82. st. anthony trojan November 27, 2013 3:04 pm

    he is not scapegoat..he is the goat.. the excuse was first few games…defense was to complicated.. n we going to simplify it..

    so can someone tell me…how many 3 n out’s our defense had in the first quarter of ne game we won ?

    they should be conditioned to last at least one quarter….true our own 3 n out’s sure did not help..
    question.. did we hold ne one scoreless in the first quarter…n by sumone on the defense line.. “it seems some are not giving there all on sum plays”… coach should be able to see that.. n put in a sub…not so??

    FUHA.. N OTHERS WHO PLAYED… comment on that please..IMUA

  83. Jonj November 27, 2013 3:23 pm

    82 USC and Nevada was a three n out. I think we’ve had a few opening three n outs this season but it really doesn’t help when our O goes three n out averaging 19 seconds between plays. That’s every minute the D was back on

  84. Old School Dave November 27, 2013 3:26 pm

    Article about Jordan Wynn:

  85. oneseason November 27, 2013 3:35 pm

    The Defense was about the only thing keeping the Rainbow Warriors in the Fresno State game (below).

    “During UH’s big comeback, the Warriors forced four Bulldog turnovers – two interceptions and two fumbles which led to three scores. Hawai’i’s first four touchdowns averaged 33 seconds in length while three of its drives lasted only two plays.”;

    UH 3rd UH37 TD 2-63 0:17
    UH 3rd FS43 TD 2-43 0:24
    UH 3rd UH42 TD 4-58 1:01
    UH 4th FS43TD 2-43 0:30
    UH 4th UH20 10:01 PUNT FS00 07:51 TD 9-80 2:10

  86. Jonj November 27, 2013 3:35 pm

    I’m not defending TK becuz I don’t like his defensive schemes. But chows lack of offense in the past has been horrible if you take away the 4th quarter.

  87. oneseason November 27, 2013 3:42 pm

    Woops RE #85 out early …

    The stats point out that UH had great field position because of the defense. So while putting the blame on Defense might be expedient, I think it would be wrong without examining why it was clicking at the beginning of the season.

  88. Slugger November 27, 2013 3:59 pm

    Congratulations, Princess Mama Leila!!!

  89. Whats up November 27, 2013 4:09 pm

    80 Jonj

    Those few players don’t make a 104 player roster full of studs like future coaches would be inheriting from Chow. Anybody can name a few players and I can name a few sophomores and freshman that are playing at the same level and are starting or in the rotation. That alone should speak volumes that a ton of Freshman and Sophomores are playing at the same level or better as Macks upper classmen.

    I could except maybe 1 or 2 freshman or sophomores like a John Hardy could break into the starting rotation but Jeez the volume of Freshman and Sophomores getting playing time beating out Macks Upper classman speaks volume to the type of recruits Chow and his staff are bring in. Gant is having a great season but Scott Harding is the MVP and Scott will probably be the MVP next season as well. Sean Schroder (Chow recruit) is a champion and Joey Iosefa is a stud. Please don’t mention the Oline because the O line stinks doesn’t matter if it’s Chow or Macks recruits! We will have to see next season how the younger O line players pan out.

    But I’m not mentioning the defense or the defensive players Macks or Chows recruits because it is not worth mentioning this season. We can mention Samia or whatever upperclassman but the defense is atrocious. Some of it is Kaumeyers coaching but the players got to take some of the blame as well. I say that because the O Line stink okole and we blame the players and not Coach Chris Naole but the truth is both the players and the O line coach is at fault.

    I remember the begining of the season the defense was doing well and the offense stunk it up. We watched the 3 and outs and the defense get gassed. Then the Offense exploded in the Fresno game and the Defense imploded since! The injuries on both the offense and defense hurts every team at every level. Since Sean Schroeder took over as QB Chow offense is putting up huge points and numbers just like June Jones Run n Shoot type numbers.

    The defense on the other hand is giving up video game type numbers, so I wouldn’t be so fast to call Samia, Yap, Woodard, Laurel, Taimatuia, JHT, Daley, Matagiese studs like a Mike Edwards type player. They are really good upperclassmen players but not studs, maybe next season Chow and Gary Beemer can develop the holdover defensive players like Yap, Samia, Taimatuia; etc into studs like a Mike Edwards. The younger Chow recruits on defense need to develop as well but they are Freshman and Sophomores in the starting rotation after all.

  90. Jonj November 27, 2013 4:22 pm

    89 what’s up

    Who from chows recruiting classes can u call a stud?!? Nobody!! Schroeder a champ?!? Please he’s had a few good games in his career. I will give him a award for toughness tho. These freshmen and sophomores u talk about are only getting PT becuz chow promised these players reps. I would take Alex green Joey iosefa and that freshmen kid last season. Over all these RBs and I’d take DG over schroeder and graham any day! In Mack’s days we also saw a few freshmen standing out. JHT, BRS, TD, mike sellers, laurel to name a few.

  91. Jonj November 27, 2013 4:27 pm

    We will never kno how Mack’s recruits could have been becuz theyre gone! Like I said Samia wasn’t a highly ranker recruit but he’s solid and only a soph.

  92. Loa November 27, 2013 4:27 pm

    afternoon gang!

    congratulations Leila!

  93. Whats up November 27, 2013 4:39 pm

    I know it’s easier for the Fire Chow fans to say it’s the Offense 3 and out that are causing the defense to be gassed but that was true before part of the 3rd quarter and fourth quarter of the Fresno game. Since then the defense hasn’t stop anything, look at the body of work and you will see the defense stinks. Anyone can point out one quarter or one game the defense did ok, Shoot I can point out one quarter and many game the offense did ok too!

    Chows offense is evolving with different looks because of Sean Schroeder understanding and game experience. If you look at the offense the positions like Tight End, RB and WR all catch passes and scored TD’s. It used to be just Chris Gant and the long ball was the only scoring option or way to move the ball. Now, it’s Iosefa, Diocemy, Lakalaka, Harding, Kirkwood, Clark, Moleni, Bowens, Gant, Woosley, Bubba Puna, Kinglide and others that are getting the spread of the action on offense.

    While the defense has not because opposing coaches have figured out Kaumeyers scheme and the players weakness on the D line and in the Secondary. The LB corps has been pretty good but the D line and Secondary are iffy at times. But the defense as a whole is getting gashed left and right for 500+ yards even when the offense is putting up long drives and holding to ball for 30min and it’s Kaumeyers job to fix it!

  94. Whats up November 27, 2013 4:40 pm

    Samia is a Junior and will be a Senior next season!

  95. cocobean November 27, 2013 4:58 pm

    Moses is following in the footsteps of a lot of other outstanding players. 1st year – redshirt. 2nd year – see limited action/play some special teams. 3rd year get in the rotations. 4-5 yrs – starter. Freshmen like Solly and Nate J who can come in and start right away have been few and far in between.

  96. Jonj November 27, 2013 5:11 pm

    My bad ur right he’s a junior. And so is yap and malepeai. I would have liked to see tulimasealii RS this year. He hasn’t done much or played much to warrant not RS. Waste of a year.

  97. NorthShoreFan November 27, 2013 5:11 pm

    IIRC, the Rust Bucket seating capacity was not so UH could fill it each game. It was also for other events, MJ concert, Rain (da one dat neva happen) and other big name draws.

    Unfortunately nothing happening any more. Haven’t heard of any big events aside from the Fun Run, Pro Bowl etc.

    No foget to make donation for this Sunday’s banquet to Na Koa. How better to say “Thank You” to the Warriors than sending their parents to the banquet with them.

  98. Jonj November 27, 2013 5:15 pm

    And the only reason you are seeing more production from all the other players is becuz every team has to scheme against iosefa! He’s the sole reason out offense has clicked these past few weeks. Who’s recruit??? Mack

  99. kapakahi November 27, 2013 5:20 pm

    Even with the inconsistent recruiting efforts… least here locally with the local HS recruits…..under Mack, still gotta give credit where it’s due……for signing Alex Green & Mike Edwards……along with Joey.

  100. st. anthony trojan November 27, 2013 5:33 pm

    REMINDER…. this is a new day….we can all VOTE again for Ms. Emily Hartong…
    the second place creeping up on her and cutting into her lead…let’s not be like our defense.. n let her down…lets get her sum numbers….that will insure her VICTORY IN THE POLLS…

    seems like many in here are getting “gassed” like our defense…. come on guys…n galsa… lets get her unreachable n over the top…..

    go vote.. tell ur friends to vote…

  101. Think2Much November 27, 2013 5:55 pm

    In the last three or four games, UH had equal or better time of possession than the opponents. This was one of the goals for the team and they achieved it. So if they improved TOP, that means the D wasn’t on the field as long as before. Yet, the opponents score more points and yardage than the name brand teams we played earlier. Its a team sport and lots of things happen during the game but it seems the opponents spotted some sort of weakness in the D that they take advantage of. But they aren’t running up the middle.

  102. innocent observer November 27, 2013 6:18 pm

    head on tv that the uh fan involved in the wahine basketball mele claims to be a victim. are you kidding me, how can he be a victim when he started the fracas by denigrating the visiting team and when called down to say it directly to the coach, he went. why did he go? is he too stupid to know that there were too many of their fans there. they should ask the fans and coach, exactly what he said, don’t believe that he was being truthful in what he was saying. believe he said many denigrating things about their team and the coach got “fed up”. I am not defending the visiting team coach, but it takes two to tango – the wahine fan initiated the fracas by making denigrating comments about their team. sure he has his right to say what he wants, but to constantly make disparaging remarks is not nice. the uh does not need that kind of fan, he embarrassed the people of Hawaii and uh by his immature behavior.

  103. dihudfan November 27, 2013 6:47 pm

    congrats to Princess Leila… and congrats to UH, too……

  104. ai-ee-ssos November 27, 2013 7:49 pm

    … other news … CNNSI

    UNLV football coach Bobby Hauck has agreed to a new three-year contract that will run through 2016, the school announced Wednesday. Hauck is 12-37 since taking over the program — and began the 2013 season on the hot seat — but the Rebels are going to a

    *** bowl game for the first time since 2000. ***

    Taylor Burn of the Las Vegas Sun reported Hauck and the school were working on a new deal late last week, citing UNLV’s four-game winning streak earlier in the season and the team becoming bowl eligible with a 41-21 win over Air Force last week.

  105. nanakuli November 27, 2013 7:54 pm

    ST, is tomorrows practice open to the public?

  106. NorthShoreFan November 27, 2013 8:38 pm

    Can’t hold back,…..seems this team can call on anyone to dial up points…but if you need rebounds AND points call….Fotu-tu tu tu tu tu… I’ll go back under my rock

  107. Old Diver November 27, 2013 8:51 pm


    Sean Schroder is a champ but the o-line stinks? SS had some good games because the o-line was playing like champs.

  108. gobows November 27, 2013 9:15 pm

    mbb beats new orleans 91-58

  109. NorthShoreFan November 27, 2013 9:16 pm

    Once we get everyone playing like champs, we’ll be champs. Team game.

  110. Wes'side Warrior November 27, 2013 9:32 pm

    Howzit, Gang!

    Busy time of the year for us all, to be sure. Tried to slow down a bit to… well… who am I kidding? It gets worse during this time of the year! With that in mind, here’s to wishing you all a safe Thanksgiving weekend. As Kazz reminded us on facebook, it’s time to give thanks for what we have… and then go fo’ broke with reckless abandon in trying to acquire things over the weekend in a most greedy, selfish, and totally inhospitable manner… while maybe smiling at someone in the process… not because they deserve it, but moreso because you got the last of whatever it was that they were looking for too.


    Welcome, new Warriorz!

    Just be safe out there, Gang! And if you see me limping across the parking lot… well… at least count to ten before speeding up!

  111. kapakahi November 27, 2013 10:12 pm


    Gotta agree that OL has given SS the time needed in order to throw the deep ball.

    Don’t ever recall so many long TD passes before……like this season……ever……not even when in the RnS offense.

    But then again……never had as many deep threats at WR (Gant, Stutzmann, Kirkwood) like this season…….ever.

  112. wafan November 28, 2013 12:48 am

    Congratulations, to the Princess and Crown Prince!

  113. ai-eee-soos November 28, 2013 1:36 am

    Head coaching jobs are opening up …

    among them – North Dakota, James Madison, Eastern Mich (Jerry Glanville applied).

    I wonder why local guys don’t apply (i.e. Akina, Cabral, Miano)

    wot, they get stage fright? how come they only apply for the UH job?

    NO confidence working as HC on the mainland?

    ai yah …

  114. ai-eee-soos November 28, 2013 1:45 am

    # 113. — oops, I no tink Cabral applied for UH.

    so solly.

  115. Bulla November 28, 2013 3:52 am

    Happy Happy Thanksgiving 🙂

    Great article on Billy Ray, to the point. For the record, he chose to stay in Hawaii because of his family, his ohana. He wanted to play in front of them and for the state of Hawaii. I personally know this because I was blessed to walk him through his recruiting process and he had numerous offers before him.

    On this day of Thanksgiving, Billy Ray is blessed to have a strong family, and a family like all of ours that goes through trials and tribulations, struggles and challenges…but at the end of the day as the sun sets…..they are still family. THAT is what UH Warrior Football and even The Tsaikos are all about…..through it all, at the end of the day, we are still family.

    God-gratulations to Billy Ray and his ohana; it’s not about how you came into the program at Manoa, it’s about how you are leaving…..head high, chest out, and proud to be a Warrior.

    Blessings to each and every Tsaiko, both the normal and the challenged, we are all in this thing called ‘life’ together….make memories, make memories, make memories……..

  116. just saying November 28, 2013 4:40 am

    I feel that norm chows recruiting is very good , but his coaching scheme and play calling is questionable. He should hire an offensive coordinater or he might end up like usc head coach.

  117. gobows November 28, 2013 4:49 am

    Happy thanksgiving

    Up early for the turkey trot 10 mile run

    Beat Army!

    Mbb is looking real good, winning the winnable games by big margins

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