Back to work

Three prospects — two from Florida, one from Arizona — arrive in Hawaii tonight for the start of their 48-hour recruiting visit.

The trips are nicely scheduled. Nobody will miss watching the Super Bowl.

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Norm Chow said he adheres to the 4-minute rule. He noted that audiences begin to lose interest the longer a speech goes. Expect more news conferences to be like yesterday’s concise session.

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Agent Ken Zuckerman said Hawaii’s pro day has been moved again. The official date is now March 5. All seniors on UH’s 2011 roster are invited to participate.


  1. GT February 2, 2012 7:12 am


  2. wowlaulau February 2, 2012 7:13 am


  3. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 7:13 am

    top 3. 😀

  4. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 7:15 am


  5. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 7:15 am


  6. Da Punchbowl Kid February 2, 2012 7:16 am


  7. Da Punchbowl Kid February 2, 2012 7:16 am

    sixt and sevent! Top ten anyway…

  8. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 7:16 am

    more linemen? great!

  9. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:17 am

    Boise State’s 17 recruits:

    NAME POS HT WT CL HOMETOWN (High School/Jr. College/Sr. College)

    Chaz Anderson CB 5-10 164 Fr. Los Angeles, Calif. (Loyola HS)

    Travis Averill OL 6-4 270 Fr. Anaheim, Calif. (Servite HS)

    Steven Baggett OL 6-3 225 Fr. Arlington, Texas (Martin HS)

    Darien Barrett DE/LB 6-3 215 Fr. Inglewood, Calif. (Inglewood HS)

    D.J. Dean WR 6-1 180 Fr. Eagle, Idaho (Eagle HS)

    Donte Deayon CB 5-9 155 Fr. Fontana, Calif. (Summit HS)

    Devan Demas RB 5-9 176 Fr. Houston, Texas (Cypress Creek HS)

    Jack Fields RB 5-10 196 Fr. El Paso, Texas (Americas HS)

    # Tyler Gray LB 6-3 215 Fr. Templeton, Calif. (Templeton HS)

    # Elliot Hoyte DL 6-4 275 Fr. Tavistock, England (Bristol Aztecs FC)

    Chanceller James S 6-2 190 Fr. Spring Valley, Calif. (Steele Canyon HS)

    # Demarcus Lawrence DL 6-4 248 RSo. Aiken, S.C. (Silver Bluff HS/Butler CC)

    Sam McCaskill DE 6-3 230 Fr. Eugene, Ore. (Sheldon HS)

    Armand Nance FB 6-2 245 Fr. Houston, Texas (DeKaney HS)

    # Nick Patti QB 5-11 195 Fr. Orlando, Fla. (Dr. Phillips HS)

    # Connor Peters TE 6-4 245 So. Antioch, Calif. (De La Salle HS/Laney College)

    Andrew Pint LB 6-1 220 Fr. Highlands Ranch, Colo. (Valor Christian HS)

    #* Hayden Plinke TE 6-4 240 Fr. Hillsboro, Ore. (Glencoe HS)

    Christopher Santini S 6-1 208 Fr. San Jose, Calif. (Leland HS)

    Sean Wale K/P 6-2 175 Fr. La Habra, Calif. (La Habra HS)

    Ben Weaver LB 6-1 225 Fr. Klein, Texas (Klein HS)

    Shane Williams-Rhodes WR 5-7 160 Fr. Spring, Texas (Klein Collins HS)

    Mario Yakoo OL 6-4 320 Fr. San Diego, Calif. (Steele Canyon HS)

  10. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 7:17 am

    okay Coach. I’ll really pay attention when get a 4.4 lineman. 😆

  11. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 7:18 am

    Hope that all the Warriors who want to, will be able to particpate in Hawaii’s Pro Day.

    Good Luck to all.

  12. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 7:20 am


    you must be feeling great like me. i line up Coach Chow’s gang, and I choose our gang.

    you agree?

  13. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 7:20 am

    have a great day gangeez. a great day!

  14. Manoa Maniac February 2, 2012 7:21 am

    Top 20?

    Congrats to all student athletes that made their commitment yesterday.. and here’s hoping the best for those starting their visit tonite! A great first recruiting class considering the late start… with a full year under their belt, we should have a better chance of keeping the cream of the crop at home!

    Coach Chow said this morning on BC that they have already offered 14-15 scholies to local juniors… way to go!

  15. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:25 am

    Big Hilo, yup, I agree. Coach Peterson only got one big guy over

    300 pounds. The rest are really light. Poi versus potatoes to gain

    weight…UH should win if they ever meet again.

  16. Sdbowfan February 2, 2012 7:31 am

    Great job Coach and welcome new warriors.

    Day late and a dollar short 1420espn. No can li’dat.

  17. chawan_cut February 2, 2012 7:36 am


  18. 702WarriorFan February 2, 2012 7:41 am

    Congrats to the new Warriors.

    Thoughts and prayers to JD parents.

    UNLV got some big HS linemen – looks like everyone is heading in the same direction on larger(but are they fast?)

    Nine of the players are lineman. Hauck says he’s trying to transform the physical makeup of the team.

    Bobby Alvarez , ol, 6-6, 330, Barstow (Calif.) HS

    Dominic Baldwin , dl, 6-6, 230, Ernest Righetti HS, Santa Maria, Calif.

    James Boyd , qb, 6-5, 250, West Los Angeles College

    Justin Chandler , te, 6-3, 225, Kingwood Park HS, Kingwood, Texas

    Tom Clarkson , ol, 6-6, 275, Mission (B.C.) Secondary School

    Marcell Frazier , dl, 6-5, 225, David Douglas HS, Portland, Ore.

    David Greene , db, 6-0, 195, Skyline HS, Dallas

    Troy Hawthorne , qb, 6-3, 185, Centennial HS, Peoria, Ariz.

    Parker Holloway , dl, 6-3, 235, Trinity Valley CC, DeSoto, Texas

    Charles Howard , dl, 6-4, 320, Lincoln HS, Stockton, Calif.

    Trent Langham , lb, 6-2, 200, Pacifica HS, Garden Grove, Calif.

    Matt Lea , db, 5-10, 200, Central HS, Fresno, Calif.

    Marc Philippi , db, 5-11, 210, Bishop Gorman HS, Las Vegas

    Andrew Price , te, 6-6, 230, Blaine (Wash.) HS

    J’Ondray Sanders , ol, 6-5, 270, Basic HS, Henderson, Nev.

    Ron Scoggins, ol, 6-2, 325, Bishop Gorman HS, Las Vegas

    Michael Thomas , wr, 6-2, 175, Consumnes Oaks HS, Elk Grove, Calif.

    J eremiah Valoaga , dl, 6-5, 225, Channel Island HS, Oxnard, Calif.

    Anthony Williams , wr, 5-11, 190, De LaSalle HS, Brentwood, Calif.

    Jonavaughn Williams , ath, 6-2, 200, Junipero Serra HS, Rancho Santa Margarita, Calif.

  19. letsgowarriors February 2, 2012 7:41 am

    so marrell jackson is not visiting today?

  20. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:48 am

    UNLV really tall…so we got the leverage.

  21. NYUH February 2, 2012 7:49 am

    I don’t really follow recruiting in detail but do note Chow’s positive impact on the program. JJ focused on lineman because they used to protect him. Chow because he was one.

  22. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:49 am

    USC supposedly got a couple of speedsters from Florida…

  23. al February 2, 2012 7:51 am

    19…he looked good didn’t he?

  24. 702WarriorFan February 2, 2012 7:55 am

    Ipu, same thoughts I had. It will be interesting to see our line

    against their line. Will be interesting to see large pancakes bodies on the field.

  25. mikey February 2, 2012 7:59 am

    Hope all 3 linemen sign with Hawaii.

    Welcome to Hawaii and become a Warriors you know you can be.

  26. letsgowarriors February 2, 2012 8:00 am

    i mean his teammate is the #1 CB in the nation. might be good to start mirmar connection and yeah, looked good.

  27. Warrior Toa February 2, 2012 8:04 am

    1420 all about supper Bowl Giants!!!

    Wow tas weak!

  28. tom mui February 2, 2012 8:07 am


    @18 702WarriorFan

    Thoughts and prayers to JD parents.

    What is this about?

  29. mikey February 2, 2012 8:09 am

    We need more help on Defense hope at least 2 are D Linemen.

  30. mikey February 2, 2012 8:12 am

    BC is from NY who else would he root for?

    For me without the 49ers in SB don’t know if I watch it this year.

    No SB party at our house. maybe I go to Ohana and watch?

  31. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:18 am

    Have to disagree with Coach Chow.

    No speech is ever too long… as long as the speaker has something to say and is speaking to the RIGHT audience that wants to listen.

    Having taken MANY lecture courses at Manoa I think I developed a tolerance for rambling but one of my history professors was EXCELLENT. Oddly enough it was a writing intensive course, but was more like a lecture course.

  32. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:19 am

    If people start to lose interest when someone is speaking:

    1) The speaker sucks.

    2) The people are not and never have been interested.

    So in referene to the above, I think Coach Chow is a good speaker.

  33. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:23 am

    You know what speech was WAAAAYYYY too long?

    Dick Vermeil in 2009 for the 100th Anniversary UH Football fundraising dinner.

    Sweet merciful crap that was painful.

  34. Couch potato February 2, 2012 8:27 am

    “1) The speaker sucks.

    2) The people are not and never have been interested.”

    just like some of the posts on here! 😆

    who are the visiting recruits?

    for curan, GO PATRIOTS!

  35. VonAppen February 2, 2012 8:28 am

    Lectures are incomplete learning . It’s what you DO with what you hear and what you share. As a university professor with a Phd. in Education, lecture style learning is incomplete!! And the rule of thumb these days is to NEVER lecture more than 10 minutes, the typical attention span. You can’t be a good coach or football player by listening to someone tell you how to do. The Internet is proving there are many better ways to learn than listening to a lecture.

    Get in the game!

    Right on Coach Chow!!

  36. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:30 am


    Who was doggin Alan Miya yesterday and somehow IGNORANTLY blaming him for Curran’s choice of topic yesterday morning???

    People should seek out factual info before they start naming names just because that’s the only one they could remember at the time. Too often I keep hearing the WRONG people getting blamed for UH-related things and the incorrect statements usually are said with such confidence as if they do know what they are talking about and more than half the time it’s wrong as hell.

  37. al February 2, 2012 8:32 am

    keeping that dominguez hs pipeline is very important for the future.

    will gregory, dejon allen

  38. Couch potato February 2, 2012 8:36 am

    speaking of speeches, MLK in my opinion had the best, “I have a dream”.

    some others that are stuck in my brain:

    “ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country.” – JFK

    “four score and seven years ago” – AL

    “duty, honor, country” – Gen. DA

    “we will win football games and we will chase championships” – NC

  39. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:37 am

    Ummm… VonAppen,

    You know that in the right context something being spoken can be meaningful even if it is more than “10 minutes”.

    ST’s mention of Coach Chow’s 4 minute rule had NOTHING to do with talking to his players, but fans or media so that is what I was eluding to in my post at 31.

    So with that being said, it’s one thing if you are a coach and talking for more than 10 minutes during practice to your players as opposed to speaking infront of an audience and in that context if one cannot pay attention for more than 10 minutes, they should seek medication or treatment for adult A.D.D.

  40. Garret February 2, 2012 8:39 am

    I hope that the linemen have good recruiting visits and that UH signs the recruits that are best fits for the needs of the program. It is clear that Coach Chow focused his first recruiting class on linemen–everything starts in the trenches and if you lose the line of scrimmage it doesn’t matter how well your “skill” position players play.

  41. cheepono February 2, 2012 8:40 am

    #36 unless there was something else, this is what i posted yesterday:

    i’m in agreement with everyone here. to say the lack of recruiting coverage by 1420 is disappointing would be an understatement.

    alan miya is the exec producer for 1420. @alanmiyaespn

    ESPN 1420 – Business Office

    1088 Bishop Street, Suite LL2

    Honolulu, Hawaii 96813

    Programming Department: 808.275.1047

    couldn’t find any email info.

    how ironic to claim other posters as being ignorant and “doggin alan miya.” check your own facts before you spew ignorance. like i said, unless there was another post that was “doggin alan miya” and your statement is not directed at me then disregard this. no where in what i wrote blames him for curran’s choice of topic. just stating that he lists himself as the exec producer of 1420, and if one wants change who better to voice their concern to than the exec producer of the show. relax.

  42. Sdbowfan February 2, 2012 8:40 am

    I emailed Chris Hart yesterday about feedback but never got a response. He asked for it and I was happy to oblige. What is the harm about broadcasting the LOI for UH. I only see upside for all party’s. The SB is a national holiday but yesterday was the beginning of the Chow era and 1420espn whiffed. Curran should not be the lead in local sports. Go Warriors.

  43. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 8:44 am

    Re: Talk shows.

    If I were a regular listener I’d prefer to have more players and coaches as guests. I think it’s too easy to schedule reporters or Internet hosts.

  44. Garret February 2, 2012 8:45 am

    For those who criticized UH’s recruiting class on the last blog, specifically comparing things with Mack’s first class, some things should be kept in mind:

    1. Mack took over after UH’s Sugar Bowl season where statewide interest in the Warrior program was never higher. Coach Chow took over after a losing season when attendance at Aloha Stadium was far down from 2007. The way that recruits and their families initially viewed the program was very different.

    2. Coach Chow had to fill a lot of holes in the roster because the needs of the program changed after the systems changed. Coach Chow did an excellent job in getting TE recruits, for example, and that was crucial for this first recruiting class.

    3. Coach Chow did an excellent job in getting top-tier Hawaii recruits–I think that Sai, Lakalaka, and Fonua are excellent recruits to get in such a short period of time.

  45. Garret February 2, 2012 8:46 am

    Article on where Stump Mitchell ended up.

    One of the biggest Navarro coups was the addition of quarterback Stump Godfrey. The 6-1, 190-pound signal caller from Gilmer started four games as a freshman at the University of New Mexico. But he left the program and walked on at Hawaii last fall. After a regime change in the Rainbow Warrior program, Godfrey headed home. Godfrey guided Gilmer to a state championship in 2009, passing for 3,581 yards and 42 scores and rushing for 848 yards and 22 more TDs. He completed 71 percent of his passes and had only six interceptions.

  46. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 8:47 am

    My bad. Marrell Jackson is visiting.

    I misread the list. Chester Brown was supposed to visit, but he signed with Florida International.

  47. Sdbowfan February 2, 2012 8:48 am

    Great points as usual Mr. Sports writer of the year.

  48. Garret February 2, 2012 8:48 am

    Article on Dustin Adams. It looks like he made his decision based on the OL coaches at both schools.

  49. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 8:50 am

    I like the idea UH will have two types of tight ends: an on-line blocker and an H-back.

  50. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:50 am


    I literally didn’t know who it was, but someone asked me today and swears it was on the blog yesterday to which I cannot find now upon looking for it, unless it was deleted somehow. So therefore I ask.

    Not too long ago I had my own beef with Curran’s choice of words when he advised people to use the wahine bball radio broadcast as a way to find out when they should head over to watch the men play afterwards INSTEAD of encouraging them to try to check out the wahine game in addition to the men’s game.

    Instead of an email, I sent an actual hand-written letter to the address on file with ESPN 1420AM KKEA expressing my discontent and disappointment with this apparent lack of respect for the female brand of basketball played by UH student-athletes.

    I am pending a response.

  51. Garret February 2, 2012 8:51 am

    The key for Coach Chow will not be how well his staff did in their first abbreviated recruiting season, but how well they do over the next few years when they have the full amount of time for recruiting. It is great to hear that so many juniors are getting offers from the UH coaching staff already–having a whole year to form relationships will result in a much stronger base (and much less poachable at the last second by Pac-12 schools) between coaches and recruits.

  52. Graham February 2, 2012 8:52 am

    Is Davonte Neal the one visiting from Arizona. He didn’t sign yesterday. Lol

  53. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:56 am

    If people want to listen to more interviews with UH student-athletes, every Wednesday at 7pm there is the Manoa Underground Radio Show.

    They always have features on UH student-athletes and at least one different student-athlete live in their studio for an interview.

    Recently baseball player Zach Swasey asked listeners to send in their suggestions for his walk-up song this season and just last night they had a 45-minute two part interview w/Kelly Majam and then touched on Jessica Iwata’s inclusion into USA Softball’s Top 50 preseason watch list for National Player of the Year.

    All of their shows are archived and it’s updated Fridays I believe.

  54. Couch potato February 2, 2012 8:56 am

    Kevin, lol

    “and in that context if one cannot pay attention for more than 10 minutes, they should seek medication or treatment for adult A.D.D.”

    or like you said:

    1) The speaker sucks.

    2) The people are not and never have been interested.


  55. al February 2, 2012 8:57 am

    fehoko fanaika, “still reviewing options…”

  56. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 8:57 am

    Re: Talk radio.

    I think 1420 needs to hire a reporter.

    It’s nice that they have hosts who can discuss a variety of topics, but they actually need to hire someone to get their own stories. It shouldn’t be that difficult. 1420 already had a contract with UH, so it probably can get good access.

    The way it is now is they’ll try to get people from other news outlets to discuss topics. So for LOI day, no reporter wants to go on radio when they have their own work to do.

    If I were running 1420, I would hire Cal Lee or Rich Miano to discuss UH’s recruiting. They have the most insights on the subject.

    But I digress . . .

  57. al February 2, 2012 9:00 am

    chester brown ended up in central florida

  58. al February 2, 2012 9:04 am

    lost in the shuffle…for me, perhaps the guy who could make the biggest impact in 2013 that is a part of this chow list is none other than future “holy grail” candidate; taylor graham.

  59. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 9:05 am

    Re: Women’s basketball.

    The program will never get the respect it deserves until it is treated fully as a separate entity.

    Doubleheaders have the feel that the Wahine are an opening act.

    UH doesn’t worry about promotions because it is the only show in town. Well, that’s fine for football and men’s basketball. Those teams will get covered whether UH sends out a press release or not. Not so with sports with limited interest. UH needs to really promote those programs, and not just with H-mail blasts or videos on its Web site. News outlets should be alerted to feature stories.

    Just sayin’ . . .

  60. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 9:06 am



  61. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 9:07 am

    It is interesting that Boise State just made offers to 2013 prospects.

  62. Kevin February 2, 2012 9:09 am


    That is ALL true.

    But, honestly, how hard would it have been with a live mic to say:

    If you have the chance, make it a day out at the Stan Sheriff Center, check out the Wahine as they play _______ at ___. If you go early, you’ll get better parking and beat out the majority of the men’s crowd and it’s a good way to support the Wahine.

  63. al February 2, 2012 9:10 am

    it is refreshing that hawaii has made offers to over a dozen local boys of the talent laden class of 2013.

  64. al February 2, 2012 9:11 am

    60…you welcome.

  65. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 9:14 am


    I wanted to go to, but forgot the “o.” is news for Alabama.

    OK, maybe not so interesting.

  66. A-joe February 2, 2012 9:17 am


    that’s talent! Awesome!

    Mac needed someone like you. Oh well… too late…

  67. Kevin February 2, 2012 9:17 am

    They’ve flubbed up before with opportunities to “cross-sell” the women’s bball program.

    Think back to 2007 with all the MESS with trying to organize autograph signings with Colt Brennan and Co.

    I emailed a certain department with a suggestion and CC’d the former HC at the time about using the Wahine basketball game as a source.

    In short suggested to hold an autograph session at the SSC AFTER the Wahine bball game. The way it would work is, if you buy a ticket to the Wahine game you have just been given first priority for autographs simply because you are there in the arena ready to go once the tables are set on the court and tickets are only on sale up before halftime I believe so sit in your seat, watch the wahine and get your autographs. People can try to come into the SSC after the game, but good luck!!!

    Now I do NOT think it overtakes NCAA compliance because people are paying the set price for a women’s game and not ONE single penny for signatures because people can still come into the SSC AFTER the wahine game for free, but again good luck!!!

  68. uhbooster February 2, 2012 9:18 am

    This is from a Ohio State sorts blog regarding 4 Star Davonte Neal:

    “Another tie to the Neals is Norm Chow, the new head coach at Hawaii. Chow played some football with Neal’s father. Davonte said he might visit Hawaii.

    Other teams high on his radar for potential visits are Auburn, USC, FSU, Miami and North Carolina, as well as in-state schools Arizona and Arizona State.”

    Davonte Neal:

  69. Sdbowfan February 2, 2012 9:18 am


    That’s great listeners have an option to listen 7pm when TV reigns supreme during that time slot. But everybody knows that morning drive shows and afternoon drive shows are sports radio gold. Yesterday, Chris Hart gave his contact info on the blog, so if anyone wants to give him feedback give him a shout and we will see who gets a response first. So far I have not. 🙁

  70. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 9:19 am

    Re: Promotions.

    Movie trailers don’t say: Go see the movie and support John Smith the director.

    I think UH’s marketing should focus on the event being the attraction, not attending because the team needs support.

  71. al February 2, 2012 9:20 am

    it is a curiosity that wbb does not have a better draw considering girls basketball programs has been on the rise for well over a decade.

    i would have as many hs tournaments in the ssc as possible. it is proven that we can turn out a few d1 caliber girls each year. for now, at least the state tournament should be held at the ssc.

    maybe an all island all star tournament over three days would work.

  72. SteveM February 2, 2012 9:20 am

    Good morning everyone!

    In my experience, a professor of Educational Psychology is never a boring speaker.

    Already, Coach Chow has us wanting more… 🙂

  73. rog February 2, 2012 9:20 am

    Saw this on the Scout board, is the other Florida kid visiting WR Nesly Ovincy? He recently decommited from a school and this articles says Hawaii was showing interest.

  74. Derek February 2, 2012 9:20 am

    Patriots will be going “ALL THE WAY”. All in.

    Good Luck to Chow and staff in getting more recruits. ST, how many more does UH have left to give this year?

  75. A-joe February 2, 2012 9:21 am


    Fricka! You get ‘um!!

    We need a redo.

    Eh! JD- Bring back Colt n Co. and lets do this thing right!!

  76. Jayson February 2, 2012 9:21 am

    I dropped CH an email too, will keep you posted if I get a reply.

  77. urbankid February 2, 2012 9:28 am

    NeQuan Phillips, CB out of Miami?

  78. kruzen February 2, 2012 9:29 am

    40. Garrett

    I agree with your comments regarding the trenches. I remember the hogs for the Redskins did so well that their quarterbacks played like all pros and those quarterbacks didn’t do as well with other teams.

  79. mikey February 2, 2012 9:30 am

    Too bad about:

    Chester Brown, a 6-foot-5, 340-pound offensive lineman, didn’t start playing football until his freshman year of high school. But he was a natural with his athletic ability, and many think he will make his way to the NFL someday.

    He would have made a fantastic find for our DT position he looks like a killer of a sacker!

    Congrad to Central Florida for a fantastic catch.

  80. urbankid February 2, 2012 9:43 am

    Re:NeQuan Phillips. His sister tweeted that a school from Hawaii is flying him in today and that he will be back Sunday. Plus, Coach Demos main recruiting ground at Rutgers was Miami

  81. BigWave96744 February 2, 2012 9:43 am

    I wish Stump Mitchell played for Hawaii

  82. d1shima February 2, 2012 9:46 am


    February 2nd, 2012 at 9:17 am


    that’s talent! Awesome!

    Mac needed someone like you. Oh well… too late…

    ROFLMAO! 😆

  83. Garret February 2, 2012 9:47 am

    It is interesting how the dominoes fall in all of this realignment mess. The Big 12 released their 2012 football schedule yesterday that *includes* West Virginia, even though West Virginia was supposed to give 2+ years notice or pay a huge buyout fee. It turns out that West Virginia may be paying $24 mil as their buyout fee to play in the Big 12 this season.

    That leaves the Big East with 1 less team than their TV contracts require and they really do need to add a team for this season to have a regular conference schedule. Jon Wilner says that the Big East wants Boise State to join them in *2012* instead of 2013…that would be possible if Boise State pays a huge buyout fee–something like $5 mil to $10 mil if I remember the MWC bylaws correctly.

    This means that Boise State may not play the game in Aloha Stadium this season like what was planned. Since the MWC would have 9 teams instead of 10, they could just have every team play the others. That would mean that UH would be trading their home game against Boise State with a game against Wyoming.

    Source: Boise State under pressure from Big East to join in ’12 to offset WVU departure. AF likely to join Navy in BE; question is when.

  84. d1shima February 2, 2012 9:49 am

    Reporter for 1420?

    They had a pretty good one years ago. Gym rat kinda guy.

    Heard he got married, had a coupla rugrats, every now and then can be spotted doing a “show face” at practice that doubles as a chance to let said rr’s get some needed exercise. 😈

  85. Garret February 2, 2012 9:50 am

    If Boise State plays in the MWC in 2012, their buyout fee is apparently just $2 mil and they get to keep the BCS money if they make a BCS bowl.

    Boise State will pay $2 million to join the Big East, payable over a five-year period with deductions from the school’s year-end revenue distribution, and $1 million to rejoin the WAC, payable over a three-year period. Boise State left the WAC in July after 10 years in the conference.

    To exit the Mountain West, the Broncos will forfeit their 2012-13 revenue distribution — about $2.2 million. Boise State says it will not have to forfeit its bowl payout if it reaches a Bowl Championship Series game next year.

  86. d1shima February 2, 2012 9:51 am

    Holy smokes, Garret!

    …any more “good news”? 🙁

  87. Garret February 2, 2012 9:53 am

    If Boise State plays in the Big East in 2012, their exit fee will be about $8 mil. If West Virginia pays the Big East $24 mil, they can give $8 mil to the MWC to pay for BSU’s exit. UH won’t get a penny of BSU’s exit fee if they leave the MWC now.

    A member who gives less than one year’s notice — the deadline is June 30 in any given year — must forfeit revenue sharing and pay a $5 million penalty or match the revenue-sharing amount, whichever is greater. This year’s revenue is expected to top $3 million per school.

  88. 702WarriorFan February 2, 2012 9:53 am

    Tom yr #28

    was catching up reading

    Stephen Tsai:

    January 31st, 2012 at 7:44 pm

    By the way, folks, prayers for Donovan.

    His mom and his dad have been ailing.

  89. Garret February 2, 2012 9:54 am


    I actually heard about this a few days ago…but I thought it would be good not to post it before NLI day. The MWC losing Air Force and losing BSU early would not be good for the conference.

  90. Otto February 2, 2012 9:57 am

    The PacWest has wahine bball too (not the only game in town). Doubleheaders saves money… no need open the Stanley on multiple nites (give workers a full nite work). Couch Potato – I was wrong. I checked UHAD website… no Nogas in the CoH… I must have been hallucinating… I could have sworn Al got inducted a few years ago when I was at a BBall game… getting dementia. BC had Coach Chow on his show this a.m. to discuss the signing yesterday….

  91. al February 2, 2012 9:57 am

    thats scary if bsu left this year…we’d only have an eleven game schedule.

  92. Garret February 2, 2012 10:00 am


    The MWC plays just 8 conference games. Instead of every school not playing a team (UH isn’t playing Wyoming for 2 years in the current schedule), every team would play each other.

    That is why I said that UH would be substituting Wyoming for Boise State.

  93. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 10:08 am

    I hope the Big East gets taken apart by the bigger BCS conferences and Boise State ends up an independent because of all the bridges that they have burned in the last few years… But that’s just me.

  94. al February 2, 2012 10:11 am

    thanks garret, i didn’t read through your post.

  95. Buffoman February 2, 2012 10:12 am

    Can this be a possibility?

    If BSU and AFA exit to the Big East. Have WAC, MWC and CUSA all merge as opposed to cannibalizing each other.

    Then have a commissioner and two major Director of Operations. One for football only and the other for all other sports. The new alignment would have two divisions with some teams getting invited and others not to be a part of the new conference.

    Seem like all three are being weakened to some degree by different levels of conference poaching. Why not combine now and stop the bleeding? Would this be a more attractive package for ESPN? How many bowls would these folks control? How many NCAA BBall invites?

  96. jkjones February 2, 2012 10:16 am

    im fairly certain CHRIS DEMAREST is behind the florida pipeline. That was an area he excelled.

    If so, good to see coach chris back in the swing of things. i can hardly wait for him to get up to full swing….

  97. Bigislandkurt February 2, 2012 10:22 am

    Tsai….you on a roll today brother.


  98. Garret February 2, 2012 10:35 am

    It looks like Jeff Reinebold is looking for a new job. The Houston OC that SMU hired specializes in WRs (he played WR in the NFL under JJ) and Reinebold was their WR coach. SMU hired UCLA’s former OL coach to replace Klemm (who is UCLA’s current OL coach) so they have a full coaching staff without Reinebold.

    Among those who have interviewed for Montreal’s vacant defensive co-ordinator position is former Winnipeg head coach Jeff Reinbold.

  99. Couch potato February 2, 2012 10:36 am

    off the record and way off topic:

    i don’t get it, why would iran with so much oil and sunshine need nuclear power?

    back to football:

    hope Coach Chow and Co. land those visiting recruits.

  100. Couch potato February 2, 2012 10:37 am

    al, was that a subliminal message? 😆

  101. al February 2, 2012 10:37 am


  102. al February 2, 2012 10:38 am

    cp…ummm. no. i just read parts of it.

  103. FattyMcButterpants February 2, 2012 10:40 am

    Do people here like Stump Mitchell so much just because his name is Stump?

    Patriots suck. That is all.

  104. Couch potato February 2, 2012 10:41 am

    boise boise boise…do what you gotta do. so many dominoes waiting to fall.

  105. Couch potato February 2, 2012 10:43 am

    the last 3 teams i picked to win the SB lost. so here goes, GO PATRIOTS!

  106. TheMan February 2, 2012 10:45 am

    Day after LOI and Bobby Curran still blabbing his mouth on the Giants. I WANNA HEAR ABOUT UH RECRUITS!!!

  107. Couch potato February 2, 2012 10:52 am

    adding to jkjones on Lancelot Williams, i like this player too. he’s going to get better and nastier after the staff coaches him up. add a few more pounds and i can see him playing on the edge and rampaging the qb. he has good size, speed, quickness, and tons of potential.

    these governors make an excellent lb demolition squad.

  108. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 10:53 am

    Me, I like that Boise is doing well and succeeding as they have been. It embarrasses the hell out of programs like UH and Universities like UH, as well. It could have been us. It SHOULD have been us. But the powers that be didn’t have the foresight, the gumption, the decisiveness, direction, and fortitude to get us on track and keep us on track. I hope they continue to be that light just out of our reach, taunting us, daring us, provoking us to do better. “I can, why can’t you?”

  109. d1shima February 2, 2012 10:56 am


    since you asked.

    “Iran’s motivations are: to create hegemony in the region; deterrence; and to become an international player,” Kochavi said. “They claim that they are developing the program for peaceful purposes but our intelligence shows without a doubt that Iran is continuing its work on developing a nuclear weapon.”

  110. d1shima February 2, 2012 10:57 am

    …and btw, I wouldn’t plan any Meditteranean cruises this summer.

    Sorry SteveM.

  111. jm2375 February 2, 2012 11:00 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Good riddance to B$U.

    ST – are you going to Pro Day?

    My non-football-related question of the day – Where’s da cheerleaders? They have not been at any Warrior volleyball games this season.

  112. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:01 am


    Looks like we are right on schedule… 12/21/2012.

    Next up.. that thing about the “God Particle”.

  113. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:03 am


    ANY? Not even ONE game?

    I know they had a the National Cheer competition, but that was earlier in the month.

    I do remember some ahem… season ticket holders whining about how the cheerleaders don’t need to be at volleyball because it’s “an added distraction”… 🙄

    Maybe one of these stuffy and snobbish fans complained often and loud enough????

  114. Couch potato February 2, 2012 11:03 am

    d1shima, thanks for the read.

    hopefully israel’s intelligence is better than the one used to sniff out those wmd’s. 😯 😆

  115. mikey February 2, 2012 11:07 am

    I’m suprisised that no other Pac-12 school gave Davonte Neal an offer other than Arizona?

    He’s visiting them late this month. Hey, Davonte want to come to Hawaii?

    I think OSU miss counted with too many prime time recruites? This would be an interesting story to follow.

    I think ESPN was doing some high profile recruits signing on national air time Live today?

  116. Couch potato February 2, 2012 11:09 am

    from what i read on the blog, no need cheerleaders, hecklers mo bettah.

  117. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 11:12 am

    Happy groundhog day!

  118. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:19 am

    RUSTON, La. (AP) – Louisiana Tech running back Tyrone Duplessis has been found dead at his off-campus apartment

    By Derick E. Hingle, US Presswire

    Tyrone Duplessis played in two games last season after recovering from knee surgery.

    Hazel Woods, the chief investigator for the Lincoln Parish coroner’s office, says the cause of death is not yet known and an autopsy is pending.

    Duplessis was 21.

    Duplessis’ profile:

  119. Haleakala February 2, 2012 11:21 am

    My best wishes to all Hawaii high school graduates athletes or not, on their journey to the next phase of their life. They have a full life ahead of them and I always hope that they can make the best of it.

    I also am moving on to the next phase of my life by entering retirement after more than 40 years of full time work. Today is my first official day of retirement. Somehow I’m going to have to live without stress and making deadlines except for being on time to make our flights to where ever we do decide to go to.

    I always think about how the next generation will cope on dealing with issues such as the economy, housing, the cost of living, foreign conflicts, over population, the environment, etc. in the future. My feeling is that the future generations may have larger problems to deal with than what my generation has experienced. I hope I am wrong and there are indeed a lot of smart young men and women who will become leaders of society in the future. I can only wish them the best!!

  120. 808Bowler February 2, 2012 11:21 am

    Morning everyone. Another great day in paradise.

  121. Buger February 2, 2012 11:26 am

    Kev-1, regarding the Mayweather-Pacquiao comments from yesterday, it is not accurate that the Mayweather team is willing to go 50/50 with Pacquiao (at least not yet). Below is from

    Pacquiao: 50/50 is reasonable

    By Nick Giongco

    Photo: Chris Farina/Top Rank

    Manny Pacquiao told Fightnews and Manila Bulletin on Wednesday that he has turned down Floyd Mayweather’s newest proposal, an offer that the Filipino ring hero found to be ridiculous. Pacquiao said Mayweather continues to insist on getting the lion’s share of the revenue but he immediately expressed his disapproval, putting negotiations in danger of collapsing completely. Mayweather had called on Pacquiao last week and urged him to fight him. Pacquiao said it is just right that they equally share the revenue, something that did not augur well with Mayweather. Reports have it that Mayweather is now willing to make it 60-40. Still, Pacquiao is not impressed and might very well explore other possibilities, including a rematch with Miguel Cotto on June 9. “I still believe that I am being reasonable in asking for 50/50,” said Pacquiao.

    It was also pure posturing and a ploy of Mayweather to try and publicly dictate that their fight will be at a small venue at a date which he chose, intead of entering earnest negotiations to make things happen.

    The history on these 2 is pretty long but until the JMM fight, Mayweather has been doing a lot of posturing and talking but always backing down when the fight was about to be made. He actually got quiet and “retired” when Pacquiao earlier agreed to his drug testing demands previously. Arum is a definite problem also as he would rather Pacquiao face other fighters of his rather than Mayweather (who left him previously). But Mayweather and Pacquiao talked in teh above mentioned article and Mayweather still won’t agree to 50/50.

    Breadman on has some evenhanded commentary on the issue in the archives also.

  122. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:31 am

    The sooner BOTH Mayweather and Paquiao admit that deep down they are both SCARED of losing to the other, the sooner they can let their olos drop and become men again and the paying public will get what they want… no matter how pathetic and watered down it is by now.

  123. jm2375 February 2, 2012 11:31 am

    Kevin – #113 – nope, not even one. For the USD games, I thought it was because school hadn’t started yet. Then they were on the Mainland for the cheer competition during the Outrigger tournament. But last weekend they weren’t there either, so… It ain’t the same without them. Hope to see them next weekend, especially since it’s usually only about 3 guys and 2 or 3 gals.

  124. Dubturbo February 2, 2012 11:31 am

    Thanks for this excellent post. I’m a rapper who loves your website 🙂

  125. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:35 am


    For a sec I thought if there was some kind of NCAA limit set for cheerleaders as far as participation days go since it is a competitive sport. Kind of like how practices in NCAA are limited to certain hours a week kind of thing.

    But that supposedly isnt the case since the cheerleaders started returning to add Warrior volleyball to their set of games they partcipated in during Wilton’s last two seasons.

  126. Pomai February 2, 2012 11:35 am

    Well it looks like we will have a cc tomorrow at Ft. Shafter anyone is welcome to join us. cc is at 11:30 at the Hale Ikena.

  127. A-House February 2, 2012 11:38 am


    congrats on your retirement – well deserved, I’m sure.

    hey, maybe you will see/meet up with TYAiea in Vegas!

    some day it will be my turn – would be interesting to me of the number of years working, part or full time – started the Monday after I graduated from grammer school.

  128. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 11:39 am

    What is a “cc”?

  129. War E Or February 2, 2012 11:39 am

    If im not mistaken a part of Boise States success is due to them having a good economy. Isn’t Idahos economy better than ours at the moment? And also I don’t think their loosing money within their program and if they are, then it must not be no where near as much as UH. Boise has a lot of money, brings in a lot of money and saves a lot of money

  130. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:43 am


    February 2nd, 2012 at 11:39 am

    What is a “cc”?

    Usually when there is one, some people not present will notice a ringing in their ears.

  131. jm2375 February 2, 2012 11:50 am

    Kevin – #130 – don’t forget the cardinal rule of cc’s: what’s discussed at a cc, stays at a cc. 😀

    Pomai – I’m in.

  132. d1shima February 2, 2012 11:53 am


    I’m in.

    (places WELCOME mat out for anyone who has never come out to a cc )

  133. papajoe2 February 2, 2012 12:00 pm

    masatoshi-san, cc is cattle call. Fuud, fun, friends and football. Get together to eat. Shucks I would join you folks but my wife made an appointment for somebody to fix our tv. No moa kala to buy new one.

  134. duffer February 2, 2012 12:02 pm

    Hey I’m,

    Is their a WBB game? 🙂

  135. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:03 pm


    cc is the infamous Tsaikos Cattle Call….

    Bloggers here get together for lunch at various venues throughout the year. Anyone is welcome to join. Been going on for years now. I’ve been to a few, I need to go to another soon…. only problem is, I’m on a pretty restrictive diet –dang! and between my wife and I, we eat 1 plate, not two, so those all you can eat places are a bit too much for us. The other option is the Karaoke get togethers, except my wife keeps reminding me that I am the only person who thinks I sing on key.

  136. duffer February 2, 2012 12:04 pm

    I’m = jm

    Auto complete. No good

  137. Abunai February 2, 2012 12:05 pm

    #61 ST? Boise made offers to 2013 recruits from Hawaii??

  138. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 12:06 pm

    Thanks papajoe 2. I can’t make it either. I work from 8-5 Mon through Fri. But tomorrow I will be at the hospital. A loved one isn’t doing well and is going to be taken off life support tomorrow.:(

  139. jm2375 February 2, 2012 12:06 pm

    duffer – Wahine bb plays Idaho TONIGHT and USU Saturday night (Alumnae game preceding). You on Oahu?

  140. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:09 pm


    Come football season, join the Tsaikos at one of their tailgating get togethers… food to broke your mouth… awesome people, good fun, and ‘special’ parking.

  141. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 12:09 pm

    #137 Abunai: Don’t worry about that. Even if they did, the Hawaii recruits will decide to stay home after Hawaii SMASHES Boise next season.;)

  142. jm2375 February 2, 2012 12:09 pm

    mih – #135 – no need sing at Karaoke Kalls. You neva know when da lion going sleep. 😀

  143. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 12:12 pm

    #140 madeinhawaii: I love food, I love fun, I love people and I DEFINITELY love good parking… That sounds like a plan.

  144. mikey February 2, 2012 12:19 pm


    congratulation on your retirement

    I have few friends who retired and says it gets old fast.

    Join a club or go volunteer for some worthy organizations. I’m sure they could use your knowledge and experiences.

  145. d1shima February 2, 2012 12:20 pm

    Congratulations Haleakala!

  146. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:22 pm

    War E Or:

    Boise makes money cause they keep winning. Their economy is on a downswing as more and more of their bigger sponsors move out of the area. Until 2001, UH always balanced their books. Then 9/11 came and things changed. Frasier came and did some interesting bookkeeping that hid 6.5 million or so of debt… and it looks like an additional 3 million followed since his departure. Apparently, though the Athletic Department balanced their books in 2010 (We also won 10 games that year).

    We gotta win to make money. Plain and simple.

  147. Haleakala February 2, 2012 12:22 pm


    Thanks for the good words. I am on the board of some non-profits and some other organizations so I will stay busy in some respect.

  148. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 12:23 pm

    Congratulations on your retirement Haleakala!!!

  149. BayAreaWarrior February 2, 2012 12:23 pm

    Aloha, gang….

    It’s been awhile sicne I’ve posted anything, but trust me, I’ve been a full-time lurker! In any event, I was reading the online edition of the Seattle Times RE the UW and WSU recruiting classes and noticed a photo from a LOI signing yesterday at Mercer Island High School. Tell me if the logo looks familiar to any of you :

  150. BayAreaWarrior February 2, 2012 12:24 pm

    RE 149

    sicne = since

  151. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:25 pm


    Best years are yet to come!… Congrats on your retirement. Though, now you gotta go find a new mission in life… to keep the brain cells alive. But it don’t have to be stressful. Enjoy your retirement, you earned it.

  152. Ralph February 2, 2012 12:26 pm

    Coach Bud secured commitments from nine recruits for soccer…

    She fielded a roster of 29 last season, 6 seniors finished their eligibility, and now with 9 newbies..they will open Fall with at least 32 players if everyone chooses to return.

  153. Bowwar February 2, 2012 12:29 pm

    Winning cures everything…Over inflated expectations kills everything as well…

    Hawaii couldn’t stand for “mediocrity”, so MACK and staff are gone…So, what is the expectation of Chow? Just win…

  154. mikey February 2, 2012 12:29 pm

    War E

    I’ve been to Boise and they have nothing but Idaho Potatoes and Boise Cascade. Come to think of it I don’t think they’re even located in Boise.

    BSU does well because of their disciplined and closely controlled work ethics.

  155. SteveM February 2, 2012 12:31 pm

    Example and history of Tsai-ko Cattle Calls:

    Usually refers to a lunch gathering of various size, usually with short notice. But is occasionally in the morning or evening. Karaoke Calls are usually in the evening.

    Larger Tsai-ko Cattle Calls have also been held in Los Angeles, the Bay Area, Portland, Seattle, and Las Vegas. Also on Maui, Kauai, and the Big Island. BTW, think major Cattle Call on Maui in April 🙂

  156. duffer February 2, 2012 12:32 pm


    No gotta Watch the streaming video

  157. 808Bowler February 2, 2012 12:32 pm

    Well nc said he offered 13 scholies to Jr’s through their coaches.

  158. slenzi February 2, 2012 12:33 pm

    Must have missed something? Is this the “Boise Envy” blog now? Oh yeah, and last time I checked Bobby Curran works for ESPN radio, not UH. Grow up, grow a pair, move on.

  159. mikey February 2, 2012 12:33 pm

    In todays economy I don’t know if I can retire anytime soon. Only the lucky ones can.

    Just got a call to fix and need a new tire and battery costing me $1200. dang.

  160. Kevin February 2, 2012 12:34 pm


    If you ever find “Da Ala Cart” lunchwagon… GO!!!

    Bacon-wrapped shishamo and the miso pork grilled musubi… WINNING!!!!

  161. Kevin February 2, 2012 12:42 pm


    I hear you. I myself recently spent 395 on a troublesome oil leak and nearly 900 on new tires. Got over 100K miles on my 2004 car (thanks to all the trips from home to Manoa and back and THEN SOME…. 🙄 )

    Times SUCK.

  162. Stephen Tsai February 2, 2012 12:49 pm

    UH shouldn’t have used a timeline for yesterday’s Signing Central posts.

    It sort of revealed the poster’s work schedule. The first post is at 8 a.m. (although the first fax arrived at 4 a.m.), and there’s a nearly 2-hour gap around lunchtime.

  163. turfwar February 2, 2012 12:51 pm

    Will be interesting to see how successful Boise will be in convincing young players in the Western US and Hawaii to sign on to a program that will be playing their games in the Big East. The closest games will be with San Diego and Air Force then it’s trips to Texas and beyond. I wouldn’t even be thrilled if I was just a fan. Road trips in the MWC or the WAC were at least doable to the average fan. Even the Big East won’t be a walk to the championship if they can’t convince players to live in Boise and play in Texas or further East.

  164. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:53 pm


    Aren’t those fonts copyrighted? Then again, it’s nice to see a touch of Hawaii being adopted everywhere… just gotta ride the wave and keep reminding people where the idea came from. We wanna be the originators, not the copy cats.

  165. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:55 pm


    Boise can still make it attractive with their Out of Conference scheduling. Currently they have BYU and Washington on their future schedules for a number of years.

  166. Steve February 2, 2012 12:56 pm

    ST, WOW, no wonder things take so long to get done, in the UHAD. They take 2 hour lunch breaks. I should have worked in the UHAD, so I could’ve taken 2 hour lunch breaks, too.

  167. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 12:57 pm


    HGEA working hard for you…

  168. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 12:57 pm

    Well, in all honesty I have a lot of respect for the Boise State football program. I have a few friends who went there and they liked it up there. I just have been turned off to Boise as of late due to a few VERY obnoxious, outspoken Boise State fans. Kinda like the small percentage of Hawaii fans who show up at games super drunk and ruin the experience for whatever section they decide to sit in. I remember sitting next to Blaze Spares’s aunty one game a few years back, and a drunk fan behind us ended up spilling his beer on her… Not fun.

  169. Kevin February 2, 2012 12:58 pm

    Mercer Island Football logo looks stupid.

    Cheap knockoff.

    BTW, if anyone thinks that that M logo thing will have people thinking “Hawaii” or “UH”, they will think the triangles look cool and have NO concept of the tapa geometrical design based off the Hawaiian culture.

  170. mikey February 2, 2012 12:59 pm

    I’ve never been to any Cattle Calls but seem like a fun group.

    Is anyone holding one for next month in LV WAC Tournament @ Orleans or near one?

  171. masatoshi-san February 2, 2012 1:00 pm

    #168: “Soares” not “Spares”

  172. BayAreaWarrior February 2, 2012 1:05 pm

    @ Kevin –

    Agreed. The only flimsy connection anyone could make is the fact that they are called the “Islanders.” There is no cultural connection at all. It was just something that caught my eye…

    @MIH –

    I feel you RE representing and reminding people about the origin! RE copyrights, I’ve looked into that in the past but never nailed down a definitive answer.

    Locally (here in the Bay Area) there’s a semi-pro football team in Pacifica that are also named the Islanders. You’ll never guess what their logos look like:

  173. mikey February 2, 2012 1:07 pm

    mih –

    don’t we have BYU and Washington on our schedule for number of years too?

    That’s one reason why many of the local boys went to Washington so they can come home.

    We got to make sure they pay and beat them to kingdom come, when they come home.

  174. Kevin February 2, 2012 1:08 pm

    That “I” looks like a BAD photoshop job. Almost made me cross-eyed for a sec.

  175. jkjones February 2, 2012 1:09 pm

    Norm Chow is old school. For those of you that dont have a clue, think of the fundamentals your papa and tutu taught you: respect for elders, consideration for others (kokua), character building, goal orientation, no-short-cuts (work ethos) or short-circuits (playing around, drugs, late-night clubing or partying), organization and most of all–get ready–cleanliness is next to godliness.

    Tommy Heffernan has already stepped-up the work routine and put the brick to the pedal.

    The locker rooms have new rules in appearance, organization and cleanliness. LOL!

    If you are a UH player and are trying to get a feel for your new coach and are somewhat puzzled–think, “actions speak louder than words” and you are not being slighted–you are being observed. For those that were accustomed to JJs relaxed rules and MAC’s rubba slippa approach–well, surprise! Norm Chow’s background is deeply-rooted in building habits and discipline that lead to success. The next 5 years are goin to be fun. Kindda like watching your children grow up. better yet, watching Hawaii’s program grow up. Me thinks the gansta era is on life support and actually, most insiders are chuckling and believe parents will rejoice to know that their Johnny boy is in good hands.

  176. mikey February 2, 2012 1:15 pm

    No matter the arena or stadium whenever you have drunken fans, it gets old fast and not fun to many families with kids.

    That’s why there are so many places now with no drinking area or beer only area in many Pro games now.

    Did anyone see yesterday soccer match in Egypt? 70 Dead!

  177. Tonofsushi February 2, 2012 1:15 pm

    Regarding copyrights, isn’t there something about if you don’t defend them, they become public domain and anyone can use them? I thought I read somewhere where you need to contact them and make them sign a licensing agreement (it can be for no charge) and that way you protect your rights…

  178. mikey February 2, 2012 1:23 pm


    Yes, you only need one word ‘Discipline’ just look at BSU.

    When Norm Chow praise a new recruit coming in with white shirt and tie you know where he’s coming from. The Old School.

  179. al February 2, 2012 1:27 pm

    st…i was wondering about that timeline. i remember chow wanted them faxed in as early as 4 am. wasn’t dejon the first one in?

    oh, how come they left out taylor graham in the video?

  180. al February 2, 2012 1:28 pm

    so is alo counted as a 2011?

  181. kev-1 February 2, 2012 1:30 pm

    121 Buger . . . thanks for that post. I thought I read somewhere that Mayweather called Pacman to make the 50/50 offer, but then again it could have been Mayweather’s camp making that claim.

    Regardless, those two need to stop bickering over MILLIONS and fight for crying out loud. They are doing a disservice to the sport.

    Bottom line . . . if Dana White and the UFC (like him or not) were in charge of boxing, those two would have fought already and we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

  182. EA February 2, 2012 1:32 pm

    Hope NC and staff bring in a decent placekicker. We cannot expect to improve overall if our kicking game continues to rival a high school’s.

  183. mikey February 2, 2012 1:34 pm


    I think they counted 4 greys and a transfer – Graham.

  184. mikey February 2, 2012 1:35 pm

    I didn’t think Alo was on scholorship last year.

  185. Kevin February 2, 2012 1:36 pm

    Rainbow Wahine SAND VOLLEYBALL

    The majority are off the current Rainbow Wahine volleyball roster (including Liz Ka’aihue of course) and mix of others I do not recognize.

    (No Falyn)

  186. Kevin February 2, 2012 1:37 pm


    If VINCE MCMAHON were booking this thing, we’d have the initial match plus several rematches by now. 😆

  187. Kevin February 2, 2012 1:39 pm


    I tell ya. They’re both COWARDS hiding behind the guise of financial figures and negotiations and previously drug test issues and scheduling blah blah blah….

    Just like when Michael Johnson and that other guy were in heavy debate about being the fastest athlete alive at the time and what was the result??? NOTHING.

    same thing here, their egos feed their fear of losing to the other. everything else is smoke and mirrors.

  188. kev-1 February 2, 2012 1:53 pm

    kevin . . .

    I guess when you both claim to be the greatest fighter, the one who loses would no longer be able to make that claim. Somehow, I suspect that if Muhammad Ali were one of the fighters in question, he would say something like “fool, I’ll fight you for free! Anytime, anyplace.”

    It doesn’t matter, soon one of the fighters will be sucked into the realm of corruption that characterizes the government of the Philippines, if he hasn’t already. And the other will be in jail, getting his a$$ kicked by someone much larger than him who thinks he’s cute. Wait, that probably won’t happen because Mayweather will either serve a Lindsay Lohan type jail sentence or just pay off his attacker.

    BTW . . . if Vince was McMahon were in charge of this fight, he might have them both get their butts kicked for being so egotistical.

  189. Couch potato February 2, 2012 2:00 pm

    in my opinion i don’t think they fear losing to the other. they have been at this sport for most of their lives. if you have a fear of losing to an opponent in boxing then you shouldn’t be in the sport. any sport for that matter.

    how many on this blog have feared losing to an opponent? sure there may be fear facing someone or team with a rep, is bigger, is badder, or just talks the talk. the bottom line is you prepare, do your best, and whatever the outcome know you gave your 100%.

    if anything blame the money handlers.

  190. Kevin February 2, 2012 2:00 pm


    February 2nd, 2012 at 1:53 pm

    kevin . . .

    I guess when you both claim to be the greatest fighter, the one who loses would no longer be able to make that claim.

    This is why I suspect a very VERY disappointed boxing match that will go all 12 rounds leading to a decision at the end. No flash, NO Kos, nada.

    Fear is the most PRIMAL of human instincts.. It also can be the most dominant.

  191. mikey February 2, 2012 2:00 pm

    Comparing with other members of MWC and former WAC, coach Chow staff can be proud of our new Warrior signees. We did well than most for short time given.

    But I though WAC new member Texas State did very well. Texas sure has slew of great players still left on the table.

  192. Kevin February 2, 2012 2:04 pm

    There is NO doubt that Mayweather or Pacquiao feared their past opponents in the manner I am suggesting. They killed them all.

    There is a difference when you don’t fear the manini ones you’ve conquered before and now you face a mako or a tiger shark head on.

    It really is more about EGO than fear really.

    Both men have TREMENDOUS egos and those with egos also can be the most insecure so when you are faced with an opponent that is your equal, you wonder… is he better???

    If they never fight, they can continue their verbal taunts towards each other. If they do fight.One will lose and that is guaranteed and the fear of EGO being destroyed on a 50/50 chance speaks volumes.

  193. Buger February 2, 2012 2:04 pm

    181 Kev-1, I would like to see the fight also. I’ve thought for years that Mayweather would outbox Pacquiao but Pacquiao is something special. He isn’t your typical elite fighter with the high connect percentage and boxing ability. But he has proven his pedigree many times by doing things his own way.

    I’m a MMA fan also but realize that Dana White has increased the popularity of the UFC by keeping most of the money and paying the fighters peanuts. Some fighters have had problems with the paychecks but it is his way or the go to a smaller rival organization.

    If Dana White were magically in charge of boxing, he would never want to pay Mayweather and Pacquiao 10s of millions of dollars so they would never fight. He is successful as MMA fighters are willing to fight for next to nothing and even the top guys make very little.

  194. Kevin February 2, 2012 2:05 pm

    When you get to the level of Mayweather and Pacquiao there is NO going back. Both Mayweather and Pacquiao can both FIRE their advisors and managers if they wish and book this fight themselves if they wanted to really duke it out.

    IF they wanted to.

  195. Buger February 2, 2012 2:11 pm

    Kevin, I don’t think Pacquiao fears Mayweather. He is on record many times saying he wants to fight him but he just thinks that 50/50 is a fair split for the fight. Regardless of the amount of money, that doesn’t sound like an outrageous expectation given what both bring to the table.

    Mayweather and his dad made assertions that they couldn’t believe Pacquiao’s performances at welterweight were possible unless he was on some sort of steroids. They did not want to face him and brought up all kinds of excuses and even retired at one point. I’m pretty sure he has always thought he can outbox Pacquiao but he knows he could get caught and in the past has never thought it was worth the risk to fight him. After Pacquiao’s fight with JMM, he has gotten braver but is still doing a lot of posturing. He thinks Pacquiao is dumb for letting Arum make too much money off of him and thinks he can do the same thing by offering Pacquiao the short end of the stick also.

  196. Couch potato February 2, 2012 2:12 pm

    Pacman’s last fight wasn’t what i expected. lackluster i would say.

    the one thing that would put a big damper on a fight between Pacquiao and Mayweather is if they lose a fight before their fight. Mayweather will face Cotto in may. Can’t underestimate Cotto though, he is a very good fighter. Pacquiao will fight in june against…i don’t know.

    after that we’ll see how the money dangles and whose ego gets bruised.

  197. papajoe2 February 2, 2012 2:24 pm

    Mikey, Kevin, Have you renewed your car registration yet? Talk about shock.

  198. Couch potato February 2, 2012 2:26 pm

    papajoe2, you missing an arm and leg now?

  199. Kevin (under duress) February 2, 2012 2:31 pm


    No. Im gonna declare sovereignty and tell the DMV to produce documentation that they have jurisdiction in the Kingdom of Hawaii.

  200. al February 2, 2012 2:31 pm


  201. Couch potato February 2, 2012 2:31 pm

    Fehoko Fanaika still sitting on the fence?

  202. TYaiea February 2, 2012 2:32 pm

    Aloha Tsaikos, finally read all the posts. CP re 105; this time you going be right.

    Haleakala the advise given by others, keep yourself busy, is the only way to enjoy your retirement. I retired from HPD over 20 years ago, but have been working all this time, part time (or when I feel like it). if you’re a gambler…vegas whenever you like. Wife and I go to vegas at least once a month. Not a big gambler, but just enjoy gambling. plus I think it’s cheaper than going to the neighbor islands. Only pay for airfare, rooms (suite) and meals all free. Happy retirement to you. IMUA

  203. Haleakala February 2, 2012 2:39 pm

    I saw one game years ago when Norm Chow was playing basketball for Punahou. A player went up high to block a shot from some other player and came down on Chow’s back and sort of was stuck there for a moment. Norm just shook him off with a shrug. I thought this guy is a strong and tough dude. He still is.

  204. bleedgreen February 2, 2012 2:40 pm

    Mountain West = WAC II w/o BSU, AFA and SDSU. Although the projected “merge” with C-USA will make things interesting.

  205. maddog50 February 2, 2012 2:43 pm

    Coach Chow and company are very “coy”regarding this class. Some of the unsung and considred raw are going to be huge. This staff will elevate the existing roster that is talented to be what they can be…..everybody should be dielighted with this latest group and it is not over…..I can not wait till next year….Congrats to UH….Coach Chow….the staff and the team both current and new…this is going to be reall exciting….

  206. Haleakala February 2, 2012 2:47 pm


    Thank you for the best wishes on my retirement.

    TY, I’m not much of a gambler but my friend is. He just told me this morning that he goes to Vegas 12 times a year, stays at the Golden Nugget and never sees the outside of the hotel until he is ready to go back to the airport.

    I thought not too many people go to Vegas every month, but you’re the second one that told me that today. I think I will be traveling with my wife to where ever SHE wants to go to. New York and Yosemite are lined up so far this year. But we’re not traveling every month like the Vegas – Hawaii folks do. Plane fare is getting too expensive.

  207. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 2:54 pm

    Mike Smith ???

    New York Jets: West Virginia co-defensive coordinator / linebackers coach Mike Smith has decided to return to the Jets as outside linebackers coach.

  208. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 2:57 pm

    how you figgah ?

    Akron: Jim Tressel’s title at Akron will be vice president of strategic engagement. He will be paid $200,000 annually.

  209. eagle February 2, 2012 2:59 pm

    99 – Couch: Late — On Battlefield Topic

    (Football is a Good “Safe” Simulation, evokes very guttural survival instincts which probably helps SB and overall ratings …);

    There could be significant interest (more than four minute attention span) for a Country with a Long History of Wars, surrounded by enemies on many (all?) sides, to pursue the capability to “Process and Enrich Uranium” — one of several possible uses — nuclear warheads (of course they say, this isn’t what we’re going to do)…

    Until mankind (significantly) focus solar, wind or oil energy, hard to wipe out entire cities (even countries) without large collateral losses …

  210. MattyBoy February 2, 2012 2:59 pm

    I guess Fehoko is out of the picture if they’re tripping lineman eh?

  211. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 3:01 pm

    Utah: Defensive coordinator / linebackers coach * Kalani Fifita Sitake * has added the title

    of assistant head coach.

  212. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 3:06 pm

    2012 HHSAA Girls State Soccer Tournament

    Kamehameh-Hawaii 2

    Seabury Hall 0. 1st half

    Waipahu 0

    Kappa 1. 1st half

    Radford 0

    MPI 3. 1st half

    Kalaheo 0

    Kauai. 1st half

  213. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 3:09 pm

    Kalaheo and Kauai tied at 1-1

    Kapaa 2

    Waipahu 0

  214. 808Bowler February 2, 2012 3:13 pm

    So anyone know if jt turner coming to uh?

  215. mikey February 2, 2012 3:13 pm


    Yosemite is a great place to visit if you want to go in style stay at Ahwahnee.

    We rented a cabin and brought our own hibachi for barbecue.

    Guess what the Forest Ranger came and said ‘No Fires please’ in Yosemite.

    Good thing we were finished with cooking.

  216. wafan February 2, 2012 3:19 pm

    Happy retirement to Haleakala!


  217. wafan February 2, 2012 3:19 pm

    Prayers to JD and the family.

  218. Not an Expert February 2, 2012 3:22 pm

    Boise State & San Diego State maybe looking at the Big East as a stepping stone to use to seek membership in the PAC 12. If they become succussful in that league they will be given strong consideration for the PAC 12. Just my opinion.

    However they will find it to be very difficult to win traveling that distance to the east. Similar to UH having to play on the continent. They will need to be extraordinary to win when traveling. Already known that most team loses 60 to 65% of the time on the road.

    With the Big East looking to create a western division that may make it a little easier for these schools.

  219. Couch potato February 2, 2012 3:32 pm

    it’s nike time.

    also can’t wait to see some pics of strength and conditioning workouts.

  220. d1shima February 2, 2012 3:32 pm

    Has a Cal State institution ever been considered for Pac-xx membership?

  221. madeinhawaii February 2, 2012 3:33 pm

    Not an Expert:

    Wasn’t the creation of a Western Division part of the criteria for Boise and SDSU to join, in the first place?

  222. d1shima February 2, 2012 3:34 pm


    Like I send you pikchas from next time I go to the Y? 😆

  223. Couch potato February 2, 2012 3:35 pm

    d1shima, what you go to the Y for? 😆

  224. d1shima February 2, 2012 3:35 pm

    free coffee!

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  230. rog February 2, 2012 3:54 pm

    Found it interesting that in ST’s article today it said that Taylor Taliulu didn’t even let the coaches know he switched his commitment. Shows you the kind of character he has.

  231. al February 2, 2012 3:59 pm

    cp…yup, ff still sitting. his okole must be sore by now or at least get one major wedgy.

  232. al February 2, 2012 4:01 pm

    matty boy…only one lineman, i think the birdie said. one really top notch safety big, fast, hits, quick feet, could be a late find. after all one door closes another one opens. happens all the time.

    we still want one more db.

  233. mikey February 2, 2012 4:09 pm

    There are lot of great kids out there without any offer. Taliulu only choice was offer from WSU.

    There were many great kids before him left Hawaii because that was the only offer left on the table.

    We wish all of them great things to come and represent Hawaii well.

  234. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:15 pm

    So…who’s gonna do the kicking next year?

    I bet a big lineman could boot it thru the uprights

    on kickoffs…

  235. huh? February 2, 2012 4:16 pm

    231…oh wow. no rebounding for him.

  236. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:17 pm

    What would be great is to find (dig…) a veteran

    with one of those new fangled artificial legs who

    not only can run but kick a ball with it.

  237. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:17 pm

    Any age…

  238. HawaiiMongoose February 2, 2012 4:24 pm

    I don’t think Boise State or San Diego State will be Pac-12 candidates in the foreseeable future. All of the current Pac-12 members are very high research doctoral universities (as is UH). BSU isn’t even rated as a doctoral university, much less one that conducts a high level of research. And SDSU, despite being a good research school, is part of the master’s-level California State University system rather than the doctoral-level University of California system. Perceived academic shortcomings will keep both of them out.

  239. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:32 pm

    …saw one UH “research” professor on the news who got

    caught with a prostitute using his apt…

  240. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:33 pm

    smart fellah…

    high research…

  241. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 4:34 pm

    wait…I’ve got to get this banyan tree out of my eye…

  242. slenzi February 2, 2012 4:44 pm

    jkjones #175

    Thanks for putting the three programs in perspective. Each time the coach brought what he thought the young men needed. June Jones following Von Appen “Poly-pride and family first”; After JJ and Frazier, MAC needed to communicate “Everything is going to be alright”; and now Coach Chow (i agree with jkjone) is clearly communicating, “This is what a real D1 football program needs to look like, and you need to play your part, not just slide along for the ride.”

  243. MattyBoy February 2, 2012 4:45 pm

    Al, is one of the recruits tripping Nequan Phillips? That kid does some serious damage!

  244. Bigislandkurt February 2, 2012 4:56 pm

    Could one of those remaining scholarships be for Kapua Sai — current Utah Ute and brother of Kiha? There was talk of him graduating this summer, making him eligible to transfer and play immediately.


  245. ai-eee-soos February 2, 2012 5:11 pm

    #244 – that was who I was thinking of, when the term “re-bounder” was used.

  246. al February 2, 2012 5:22 pm

    whoa. its getting warm in here.

  247. al February 2, 2012 5:31 pm

    mboy…i thought this guy lewis was tripping but the stuff keeps changing as recruits commit and don’t commit. it was four now its three. who knows tomw it could be back to four.

    the last few picks are to fulfill needs or the best athlete out there.

    for one, you can never turn down a big lineman.

    two, nor can you ignore a shutdown corner.

    three, a linebacker of note usually makes up for most of your special teams guys these days.

    four, an elite runner is hard to ignore.

    five, any guy who can run 4.3 something deserves a long look

    six, you never close the door on the holy grail.

    this class is a great one already. anymore additions will just be the frosting on the cake. imagine this, if you will, we got lineman on average way bigger than we have been used to. the next bunch of lineman will just get bigger each year as the staff has more time to seek out the big talented guys.

    not too mention the skill dudes.

    oh yes, yes indeed.

    afterall these are exciting times!

  248. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 5:47 pm


    i ain’t afraid to say it. Taylor Taliulu is gonna find it hard to get any respect from Hawaii faithful. I don’t care about da offa elders who wanna me to calm down. i ain’t calming down. no sir. he went disrespect our coaches. he went disrespect our team. peeps like me don’t forget dat kinda disrespect. and da wassu coaches gotta no dis right now, right here: we don’t like you disrespecting our boys, leaving them out to hang against peeps like me. especially Kamehameha boys. 9 of my siblings went Kamehameha. 3 of them set State champ records in their sport.

    read my lips. no more poaching Hawaii, Washington State University !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    you left Taylor Taliulu out to dry, plain an simple! and i ain’t gonna let him forget, because i want da next class not to forget.

    and i ain’t afraid to use my real name. you first!

  249. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 5:57 pm

    boy o boy. we got killa guys done with their missions.

  250. d1shima February 2, 2012 5:57 pm


    Wadda scoah now?

  251. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 6:04 pm

    Kapua Sai. come join us my brudda. and some ah da Tongans, da Talitini, Motuapuaka ohana, da Sione ohana, tell brudda Sione come play wit us, we can use his calming influence and skills 😀 his…. winning ways…. 😆 his ….. you know… his …. punch em in da face kinda ways….


  252. Ralph February 2, 2012 6:17 pm

    Tsai on ocean 12 at this time covering FB with Santi and Davone (sp)

  253. Warrior Toa February 2, 2012 6:34 pm

    Masese Masese Masesayyyyyy??? cheeehoooo!!!!!!

  254. kakaako kid February 2, 2012 6:36 pm

    No blame any keiki fo choosing the “BIG” Island teams ova UH. Go my sons and learn, play and educate. No worry, no shame. You gotta do wut you gotta do. Gotta respect da keiki wen they listen to da elders. No? Chillax, I hope you make it to the big leagues. Enjoy, you only young little while. If you made one mistake, we forgive dat kind stuff and going cheer for you again when you on HAL field.

  255. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 6:41 pm


    Left after the first half…had to pick up niece and nephew from school

  256. rb February 2, 2012 6:52 pm

    248 Beautifully stated

  257. Bryson February 2, 2012 7:03 pm

    I was thoroughly dissapointed that Taliulu didn’t have the courtesy to give Coach Chow a call about decommitting especially after the talk about wanting to be a building block for Norm Chow and Hawaii…Not dissapointed he chose WSU more dissapointed in his actions or lack there of…

  258. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:13 pm

    …interesting comments about how cold it is in Pullman:


  259. Keoniana February 2, 2012 7:20 pm

    Calm down on Taliulu,

    So Taliulu screwed up, give him a break!!! People forget these are still 17-18 year old KIDS! Have some common sense, even grown ups make mistakes.. Give the KID a break, They are gonna make mistakes..don’t be hating on him cause he changed his mind. Besides – there’s choke talent locally and more better players than him next year!!!!

  260. Keoniana February 2, 2012 7:25 pm

    SDSU is a Cal state school and will never make it to PAC-12 cause UCLA and Cal Berkeley Are UC schools. – UC schools don’t associate themselves with Cal state.

    Boise Academically doesn’t qualify

  261. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:31 pm

    It is your life Taylor Taliulu. Don’t let anyone tell you

    how to live it. You sure have guts. Now prove everyone wrong.

  262. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 7:33 pm

    Wahine Rainbows bb team have an eleven point halftime lead.


  263. Kevin February 2, 2012 7:46 pm


    Send that crybaby little b**ch Jon Newlee sobbing back to Idaho!!!!

  264. tom mui February 2, 2012 7:52 pm

    Except there is courtesy by letting the Coaching Staff at UH know of your change of mind – specially if they were counting on you. There would be courtesy of letting players who might have been influenced by you that you were not going to be part of the team. There would be the courtesy of letting the people of Hawaii to know you had changed your mind specially when he got your 15 seconds of fame on TV saying you were going to UH.

    There is nothing wrong in wanting to play for yourself. Just don’t make it sound like you were going to play for the people of Hawaii.

  265. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 7:55 pm

    KS-Kapalama 3

    KS-Maui 2 end of 1st half

    Maui was leading 2-0 with 15 min remaining at the half.

  266. urbankid February 2, 2012 7:56 pm

    wonder if the third recruit is Arizona OG Viliami Koloamatangi

  267. Steve February 2, 2012 8:00 pm

    Since, ST is at the SCC, he should know who those 3 players. They are suppose to be arriving this evening, according to Coach Chow.

  268. jkjones February 2, 2012 8:01 pm

    anyone know if either john ursua or gus lavaka are going on mormon missions?

    i read a 2010 utah article (the salt lake tribune by tom wharton, 8/31/2010) quoting ursua(then a 10th grader) as saying he was planning on going on a church mission when he graduated from high school.

  269. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:03 pm

    girls soccer, neigbor island seeds fall in quarterfinals- Miliani 2, #4 Kealaheke 0; I’olani 1, #3 Baldwin 0. #2 Moanalua defeated P.C. 2-1.

  270. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:05 pm

    is Duffer hyperventilating by watching wbb?

  271. urbankid February 2, 2012 8:05 pm

    hey ST, is there a team meeting at 10:30pm on the field?

    Hadden_27 Tyler Hadden

    Team meeting at 10:30 pm tonight on the turf #Whaaaaaaa

    12 minutes ago Favorite Reply

  272. kev-1 February 2, 2012 8:06 pm

    I hope Ursua’s “mission” is to embarrass opposing defenders when he puts that Warrior uniform on.

    As much as I respect people’s religion, you have to admit that football has become a “what have you done for me lately” sport. Kids get so easily forgotten. I don’t pay that close attention, but do kids top prospects still seriously consider the missions?

  273. urbankid February 2, 2012 8:07 pm

    Ne’Quan Phillips has arrived

  274. Ipu Man February 2, 2012 8:16 pm

    under 4 minutes…Hawaii Wahine trailing by 3

  275. Buffoman February 2, 2012 8:16 pm

    Maybe Messrs. Taliulu both called Coach Chow and apologized for the misstep. That would be a proper thing to do and was probably done at this point. People do make mistakes in the moment of excitement. I’m sure that the parents have good local kine upbringing and would have already done the right thing and called and along with their son, the coach(es) to mend fences.

    Let’s give people the benefit of the doubt.

    Okay? All pau, move on.

  276. Steve February 2, 2012 8:23 pm

    I truly hope this is Coach Dana’s last year. She has no idea how to make adjustments. Extremely disappointing!!!!

  277. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:23 pm

    Jackson with 19 rebounds, outstanding performance, a Bill Russell like performance.

    Idaho comes in 0-6, they were down by 18, but they lead by 3 with 2 minutes left.

  278. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 8:25 pm


  279. Steve February 2, 2012 8:27 pm

    This game is on Coach Dana, up by 18, now losing by 9. EXTREMELY BAD COACHING!!!! JD needs to do something NOW!! Like call Coach Dana, into his office and give her the what for.

  280. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:27 pm

    wbb, we were up by 18, now we are down by 9, that is a 27 point swing. Mind boggling!

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  282. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:32 pm

    Duffer, you need to join Whitey and have a cold one in Happy Valley- Na Wahine just blew a golden opportunity to notch a victory.

  283. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 8:34 pm


  284. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:36 pm

    Dew Named Capitol One CoSIDA Academic All-District 8 First Team

    Congratulations to Rebecca, you’ve got your priorities straight!

  285. jkjones February 2, 2012 8:37 pm

    Chow made it clear on LOI day that if a potential local recruit doesnt have the passion to be a warrior, he doesnt want him. he cited fonua and lakalaka as prime examples of warrior passion. taylor taliulu didnt have that passion burning in his heart. he did hawaii a favor. taliulu’s turnaround was non-violative. until a recruit signs and faxes, the deal is fluid, verbal notwithstanding. that is the rule. a good rule that gives a recruit protection from overwhelming pressures under duress. it gives a kid time to reflect, discuss fully with their parents and render a final decision. taliulu may have acted with impetuous emotion, but he acted within the parameters allowed by the ncaa.

    personally, i am of the belief that the vissitudes of staying or leaving has changed and favor local athletes that elect to play for the hometeam. you play for only four years but you work for the remainder of your life. exposure of hawaii football has grown to bigtime status locally and name recognition in the job market provides huge advantge. i know of two players in the von appen era who gained access to federal jobs because of that local name recognition. one is a secret service agent and the other an ATF agent. there are many more examples of football players who went away and came back home with no networks.

  286. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:38 pm

    Bello scored 11 first half points, didn’t see much playing time in the second half. 🙁 Feed the hot hand!

  287. Ralph February 2, 2012 8:42 pm

    Wahine with 58 rebounds, 18 more than the Vandals, but shot a poor 27%. Okay, Utah State on the board, they are in second place and they will be a big challenge for the Na Wahine.

  288. Kevin February 2, 2012 8:42 pm

    Newlee is still an ass.

  289. Steve February 2, 2012 8:44 pm

    Any way of talking Coach Goo out of retirement. Maybe, have all the golf courses conspire to not allow him on their golf course, unless he Coach’s the Wahine Team.

  290. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 8:51 pm

    KS-Kapalama vs Mililani

    Moanaloa vs iolani in the semis tomorrow

  291. d1shima February 2, 2012 8:52 pm

    Mahalo for the updates!

  292. Ralph February 2, 2012 9:03 pm

    ILH vs OIA, let’s go public school! Come on Papajoe 2, time to bring out your mojo and do your chant.

  293. kev-1 February 2, 2012 9:13 pm

    jkjones 285 . . . very well put.

  294. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 9:15 pm

    kauai and kapaa will be playing against MPI and HPA. So, Kauai public schools against Oahu private schools for the D2 semis.

  295. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 9:17 pm


    You should have said, “Newlee is still an (_!_)”


  296. al February 2, 2012 9:19 pm

    so ralph was worried that michelle nagamine would not have enough taller girls on this year’s recruit list.

    well, ralphie, i am happy to inform you that 2/3 of the recruits are taller than you.

  297. BleedGreen808 February 2, 2012 9:21 pm

    Congrats to Radford for defeating McKinley for the OIA white tittle.

  298. jm2375 February 2, 2012 9:25 pm

    BG808 – HPA is dat private school on “Hawaii Island”.

    GO OWLS!

  299. papajoe2 February 2, 2012 9:28 pm

    #292 Ralph, public skool no had chant. Only smoke signals coming from the cigarette smoke in the bathrooms.

  300. papajoe2 February 2, 2012 9:28 pm

    3 huxxitrit.

  301. GondaOhana February 2, 2012 9:29 pm

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  305. kev-1 February 2, 2012 9:37 pm

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  307. 808Bowler February 2, 2012 9:56 pm

    Boring night at work. Blah……

  308. Ralph February 2, 2012 9:57 pm

    Al 4 of 7 field players are shorter than me…the goalies are usually the taller player on most teams.

    last season, 16 of the players were shorter than me, and that’s 16 or 29 roster players.

  309. 808Bowler February 2, 2012 9:57 pm

    Almost time to screen chronicle and woman in black.

  310. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 10:39 pm



    you wen lose me wit vissitudes. :mrgreeen:

    all dems good points.

    kakaako kid


    i understand da part about everybody makes mistakes,

    and forgive and forget

    and he’s only a kid

    and lay off the kid, he’s only a kid


    i understand dat by now

    i should give da kid and his parents the benefit of the doubt

    and i should move on.

    and i know that Coach said if you no like play fo us, he no like you play fo him.




    okay, my lips are sealed :mrgreen:

    for now :mrgreen:

  311. al February 2, 2012 10:59 pm

    ralphie…did you grow?

  312. urbankid February 2, 2012 11:00 pm

    wish I could hear NC’s speech at the 10:30pm team meeting on Ching Field, all the players’ reactions on twitter sound like they are inspired

  313. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 11:03 pm


    i wish i was there.

    i can live off the inspirational fumes. 😀

  314. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 11:04 pm

    you know i meant 312.

  315. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 11:07 pm


    watch da coaches.

    if day can go all day an all nite

    wit short hops, you can too.

    I can too.

    Go Warriors!

  316. BigHiloFan2 February 2, 2012 11:16 pm

    have a good night Tsaikos.

    see you in the a.m..

    Coach Norm Chow

    we got your emotional back!!!

    continue to be the nice guy


    and cold as stell 😀

    leave da dirty work to peeps like us ….


  317. Ralph February 2, 2012 11:20 pm

    Al I’m using the heights on the UH athletics web, if the 2″ rules apply to women, than I’m taller than a lot more soccer players. You need to come to the Waipio complex, our team is small, or at least the RWSS, the soccer team practices on the adjacent field.

    Height matters on corner kicks and set plays that require winning the ball in the air, once on the ground, speed and quickness takes over…Also when the goalie punts, on contested balls, size and height matters.

  318. papajoe2 February 2, 2012 11:37 pm

    Last season it was obvious that the Wahine soccer team lacked Div. 1 talent. I’m kind of disappointed that the coaches first full year of recruits are more short players. They will be hard pressed playing against top notch teams like BYU who seem to average about 5’8″. I’m not really sure of that, but it seems that way. I know they have a few 6’s and some 5’10, 11′ inchers and a whole bunch to 5’8″ers. Lets hope that the Wahine can overcome pysical shortcomings with outstanding footwork and speed.

  319. Not an Expert February 2, 2012 11:41 pm

    So I like hea everybodies idea how UH going get membaship in da PAC. If tinking going create we gotta plant seeds into da leadas mind. It is Friday da 3rd.

  320. Kevin February 2, 2012 11:47 pm

    RE: Heights.

    For some reason some of the Wahine volleyball heights seem out of whack. Pretty sure Hartong and Hewitt are their listed heights. Croson has to be a legit 6’1″ though and NOT 5’11”.

    Then it is inconsistent across the board as the softball heights are more accurate than the volleyball ones.

  321. al February 3, 2012 12:05 am

    all of the women’s teams suffer from a similar plight as do the men’s teams.

    a. playing in the wac has been a detriment to recruiting. the level of play is not conducive towards recruiting the top tier american girls.

    b. many are afraid of the pacific ocean.

    c. local coaches need to work doubly hard to recruit. need to estblish a base.

    what to do….

    a. playing in the big west will open some doors to the cali kids.

    a. and b. recruit more australian girls. brazil, puerto rico, new zealand, etc.

    c. coaches need to learn gibbers and chow’s work ethic and recruiting regimen.

  322. SteveM February 3, 2012 12:23 am

    Blast from the Past (Early 2007–the formative years)…

    Comment from: 702WarriorNation [Visitor]

    Imagine both starting in the backfield, then shift into new formation- defense don’t know who or how to cover- speed or brawn and still have a blocker for backside/blitz.

    New twist/dimension.

    ok, just dreaming- Sept too far away.

    02/02/07 @ 12:50

    Comment from: Rokko [Visitor]


    We go way, way back. I’ll send you an email. Good to see you have other interests besides IT. Living in Japan now near Kobe.

    Now, back to my natto and rice.

    02/02/07 @ 18:16

    Comment from: Stephen [Member]

    Uh, oh. I think I started a border war.

    Oh, wait. I’m in Hawai‘i. We have no border neighbors.

    Anyway, I didn’t mean to air our paper’s dirty laundry. But when our sports editor Curtis Murayama said: “Please don’t write anything . . . ”

    Well, what was I to do?

    02/02/07 @ 18:27

    Comment from: las vegas [Visitor]

    I hate to ask this, but what the heck. How big did you get at while doing Sumo, las vegas?

    Guess what? I left Kaiser HS a 5 11 240 pounder.

    I came back after 5 years a 6 0 240 pounder.

    Six months later i weighed 290 lbs! Go figure

    02/02/07 @ 23:22

    Comment from: bulla [Visitor]

    long time, i migrated down from the heights of kapalama in 1977…

    gigi, mahalo for the kind words, 2/20 is a date, need to get more people out and about

    al, no dibs on my poke, right now i am worried if Kid has licked the top of the container, he sounded as though he was frothing at the mouth last night before he put it in the fridge…..going to have to do a quality control test today, haha.

    prideperiod, got your email, you still da man, humble as ever….glad to see you about. Derby would be happy to hear from you, they have a great thing going on, my son loves it….tell Beasely keep playing rball, and stop letting his better half beat up on him, good to hear from you bro…..long time no hear

    kid, get up, you don’t need anymore beauty rest…i am ready and ripping already so jump in!!!

    my 3 sense (it’s saturday)

    02/03/07 @ 08:01

    Comment from: gigi-hawaii [Visitor]

    hey, guys, there is a new entry by ST. check it out and post comments there.

    02/03/07 @ 11:09

  323. al February 3, 2012 12:24 am

    …and the euro girls.

  324. admrvt February 3, 2012 12:24 am

    Coach Nagamine’s recruits are, in my opinion, a step in the right direction. Combined with last year’s freshmen, she is building depth and with one more class, this team will be competitive in the Big West. It would be nice to add height — but there aren’t a lot of Amby Wambach’s around. So getting shorter, more athletic players with speed and quickness will go along way and should enable her team to control tempo better — until she can find another Wambach type player.

    She has two keepers in this class, and a commitment from another top keeper next year.

  325. Pomai February 3, 2012 12:26 am

    Don’t forget folks we will have a cc tomorrow at Ft. Shafter anyone is welcome to join us. cc is at 11:30 at the Hale Ikena.

  326. al February 3, 2012 12:27 am

    i wonder if the arizona kid is davonte neal?

  327. Nida Francios February 3, 2012 1:37 am

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  328. jkjones February 3, 2012 2:02 am

    @310. that’s bc i mispspelled the word–vicissitude. change of circumstance. dont act, i know you are a word doctor.

  329. wafan February 3, 2012 3:02 am

    Happy Aloha Friday!

  330. wafan February 3, 2012 3:03 am

    This week felt like the longest month.


  331. wafan February 3, 2012 3:05 am

    Hoping the new visitors get to see a lot of things and that they love what they see.

  332. wafan February 3, 2012 3:06 am

    The meeting last night must have been interesting.

    Definitely a wake up call to the returning Warriors. Exciting changes are here!!!

  333. Mikel Dayan February 3, 2012 4:12 am

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  334. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 4:42 am


    at some point in my life I had dreams of being a geniecologist. 😆

  335. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 4:42 am

    Good morning Tsaikos everywhere.

  336. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 4:44 am


    its only 5 am, no mo kope yet

    an i’m already INSPIRED and

    i know

    deze are EXCITING TIMES!!!!

    go Warriors.


    Go Tom Mui! 😀

  337. djmitcho February 3, 2012 4:46 am

    Happy Aloha Friday Tsaikoland!

  338. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 4:55 am

    a 1030 pm team meeting at Ching Field last night?

    3 prospects arrived last night for official 48 hur visit/

    planes land when? last night? hmmm….

    maybe da prospects went to da team meeting.

    inspired? I am…

  339. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 4:56 am


    howzit my friend. hope all is wel in Cali wit you.

  340. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 5:06 am

    betcha ST was at da meeting last night.

    betcha he’s all excited tooo…

    betcha we gonna get extra frosting on da recruit cake now. 😀

    an you wanna know why errybody excited?


  341. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 5:10 am

    remind da Warriors, coach.

    one game atta time.

    da fight at USC is 60 minutes long.

    da hardest part is da end part.

    and da second hardest part started yesterday.

  342. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 5:10 am

    back laters gangeez.

  343. A-joe February 3, 2012 5:48 am


    How is it that it’s OK for a gynecologist to do art as a hobby and yet, when an artist does Gynecology as a hobby people freak out.

  344. duffer February 3, 2012 5:56 am

    Hey Good Morning BigHilo,

    Whitey is in Lost Wages for Super Bowl.

  345. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:15 am



    you too deep for me dis early in da a.m. my brudda.


  346. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:23 am


    good morning back atcha my friend.

    are you there with Whitey?

    take Pats if day giving 4. 😆

  347. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:28 am

    i hope da band is learning da song too.

    wait for it. wait for it.



  348. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:33 am

    hey… hey… hey…

    da team is getting stroonah….

    da runnah going get strongah tooooo.

    team’s gonna take us hiiiiigha…..

    he’s gonna take us hiiigha twooooo.

    hey…. hey…. hey…



    and i gotta wait samoa fo da good times… f#/x?

  349. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:37 am


    my mrgreen neva work. i porget da : : :mrgreen:

  350. jm2375 February 3, 2012 6:37 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    OK, ST, I just read the Warrior vb story. Does the SA have it right or does UHAD? According to UH website, Averill is a redshirt freshman and Nick West is a redshirt sophomore.

  351. BigHiloFan2 February 3, 2012 6:42 am

    have a great day Tsaikos. gotta go. hi ho hi ho. woooshhhhhhhhhhhhh

  352. Slugger February 3, 2012 6:48 am

    Morning, gang! Have a great Aloha Firday!

    Saw Darius B. at Long’s yesterday. His little boy just made 3. Happy birthday to the Deuce!


  353. d1shima February 3, 2012 6:51 am

    Great Morning All!

    I see that the prognostications seem to favor the G-men but are they relying a little too much on deja vu all over again? 🙄

  354. 702WarriorFan February 3, 2012 7:08 am


    Sun god landing in Canada.

    Montreal Alouettes: SMU wide receivers coach Jeff Reinebold accepted a position with the Alouettes’ organization.

  355. PolyMom February 3, 2012 7:11 am

    Happy Friday! Wish us luck moving day.

    Team meetings at 10:30 at night. Good way to keep kids on campus.

    I think Tom Mui said it best about decommits.

  356. Kevin (under duress) February 3, 2012 8:04 am


    February 3rd, 2012 at 12:05 am

    all of the women’s teams suffer from a similar plight as do the men’s teams.

    what to do….

    a. playing in the big west will open some doors to the cali kids.

    a. and b. recruit more australian girls. brazil, puerto rico, new zealand, etc.

    c. coaches need to learn gibbers and chow’s work ethic and recruiting regimen.

    Ahem… some programs have been doing the first two things for a while now and some coaches have developed and established their OWN brand of work ethic and recruiting regimen for QUITE a while now as well…………………………

    The FALLACY projected here seems to insinuate that other UH head coaches work ethics don’t match up to that of Chow and Arnold and that is quite inaccurate. QUITE INACCURATE.

  357. papajoe2 February 3, 2012 8:18 am

    Kevin, it cannot be that the women’s sports have the recruiting budget as a Chow or Arnold. I noticed that Coach Chow himself did a lot of traveling for recruiting and I think Coach Arnold did too. Are the women’s sports limited to mostly phone calls and internet, twitter, etc., for recruiting purposes? Do they bring in recruits? I hope their budget allows that but, with a non-income producing sport, I imagine that would not be the case or at most, very limited. Too bad, otherwise I think most women would love to live in Hawaii while getting an education too.

  358. Stu Padasso February 3, 2012 8:23 am

    I still wish Taliulu the best, but calling a spade a spade…he was classless in how he handled the whole situation. Brostek chose to go elsewhere, and nobody is giving him a hard time about it, because he did it with class. He didn’t make any bold comments and get the UH fans hopes up.

  359. Kevin February 3, 2012 8:25 am

    Holy crap this is REALLY bothering me…

    So Al in your opinion, describe how you perceive the work ethic of the coaches for wahine volleyball, basektball, softball, soccer, tennis, track and field, etc…. Compared to Gib and Chow?

    Make no mistake Chow and Gib are workhorses, but to insinuate that other women’s coaches must follow in the footsteps in their recruiting and overall work ethic just simply says those other coaches won’t be successful unless they follow Gib or Norm. Then you have to disprove the success of some of the women’s programs while keeping certain limitations in mind (i.e. lack of institutional support, lack of media coverage, smaller booster corps, smaller overall community interest). Im not necessarily making “excuses”, but Im just saying you don’t have the Governor speaking at a UH track and field or tennis or softball related function declaring his support for an updated LOCKER ROOM that is nearly 27 YEARS OLD….

    Anyway, back to the issue I have with your statement… it’s just not completely fair or accurate. While I personally am not too familiar with the other women’s programs, there is at least one that I am more familiar with recently and when it comes to the work ethic overall and with recruiting… I’d would LOVE to see an un-biased legitimate challenge to his efforts over the last two decades.

  360. Kevin February 3, 2012 8:30 am


    No the recruiting budget of most women sports are a drop in the bucket compared to that of the top revenue sports.

    But my PROBLEM with Al’s statement that the women’s coaches supposedly need to match the work ethic of Gib and Norm is not correct as it suggests that all the coaches of female sports programs don’t have a worthy enough work ethic and that is B.S.

    Again, while I cannot speak for all, I do know of one coach that does quite EXHAUSTIVE work himself when it comes to overall work ethic and recruiting for his needs with the budget he has and if he had the recruiting budget of UH football or men’s basketball.. My God……..

    “nuff sed”

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