Laurel, Clapp out for season

Head coach Greg McMackin confirmed this morning that left tackle Clayton Laurel and right slotback Justin Clapp will be lost for the remainder of the season because of injuries. But then at his news conference today, McMackin said Clapp would miss four weeks, which equates to the end of the regular season but leaves open the possibility of a return if the Warriors qualify for the Hawaii Bowl.

Against Utah State, Laurel suffered a broken left arm, and Clapp suffered two broken ribs.

McMackin said an MRI showed right wideout Royce Pollard has a torn meniscus in his left knee. Pollard will undergo a second MRI today. Offensive coordinator Nick Rolovich and Pollard have not ruled the senior wideout out for the Nevada game. McMackin indicated Pollard would not play.

McMackin also said one of the scenarios is to use David Graves as an emergency wideout. Graves will practice there tomorrow.


  1. Buffoman November 7, 2011 6:27 am

    What will the traveling team look like with all of the injuries?

  2. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 6:30 am

    The sun always rises. It’s a new day, a new opponent to focus on. Strong finish, Warriors!!

  3. Old Diver November 7, 2011 6:36 am

    Yup, a strong finish will be so much more fun.

    Go Warriors!

  4. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 6:40 am


    Should have a clearer picture of the travel roster tomorrow.

    But there might be some game-day decisions.

    There will be some empty slots. Why not add Jett Jasper? He’s a senior.

  5. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 6:42 am

    I think APEC paid for the sun to rise today. It’s part of the Hawaii travel package.

  6. jm2375 November 7, 2011 6:44 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    It’s the start of a new week. Time to focus on UNR.



    Busy weekend at the SSC with Wahine VB Senior Night on Saturday vs NaMaSU. Wahine bb opens their season on Friday vs UH-Hilo.


  7. Shoko November 7, 2011 6:46 am

    Ole Miss’ Houston Nutt has been notified that this is his last season.

    Wonder who’s next?

    Morning folks!

  8. tom-warriornation November 7, 2011 6:47 am

    Come out to Reno everyone this Sat–our Warriors need our support more than ever now–email me if you need tickets at:

    Still get plenty good seats in the Hawaii section L, right behind the team, on the 25 yard line.

  9. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 6:53 am

    If he came to Hawaii, he’d have to change his name to “Kukui.”

  10. PolyMom November 7, 2011 6:55 am

    Any folks live on Hilo? Will be there this week. Post to me and let’s have lunch. Family emergency.

  11. Buffoman November 7, 2011 6:55 am

    I had a difficult time understanding Dave’s article this morning. Was it dripping with sarcasm or there some truth to it that was buried just beneath the surface of what I thought was a tongue in cheek expose?

    I’m sure his lead line did not sit well with some.

  12. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 6:56 am

    Good Morning Gangeez! 🙂

    Have a good practice Warriors! Regroup, refocus, lick your wounds and work as hard as you can to be ready.

  13. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 6:56 am


    Sorry to hear about the family emergency.

    Hope all goes well.

  14. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 6:57 am

    Thanks for all you do, Tom.

  15. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 6:58 am

    #13 –

    Same here.

  16. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 6:58 am

    Something positive to take looking forward towards Nevada… Our Run Defense is very good this year…

    It’s a shame every QB looks like Aaron Rodgers against us…

  17. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 6:58 am

    Good Morning Mr. Tsai.

  18. Buffoman November 7, 2011 6:59 am

    I like Coach Nutt when he was at Arkansas (did I get that right?). I think he’d fit here, but I do not think he’d be interested nor could we afford him. “Kukui” would be a great nickname.

  19. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:00 am


    Morning. Time change through me off.

    Rarin’ to go at 6 a.m., then found out the conference call was moved back, first for the time change, second as part of the WAC’s new schedule.

  20. jkjones November 7, 2011 7:02 am

    time to focus on mac’s replacement.

  21. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:05 am

    Stephen –

    What makes you early for an event isn’t a bad thing I guess. 🙂 I myself have a tendancy to be punctuality challenged from time to time.

  22. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:07 am

    # 11, Braddah Buffo –

    Drug this over from yesterblog:


    Dave Reardon:

    November 6th, 2011 at 7:43 pm

    Regarding “Punahou Mafia” … a friend of mine told me it was being discussed here today. Coincidentally, I just finished a column about the Punahou Mafia and its relationship with UH sports for tomorrow’s paper. I hope it is received by all in the spirit it is intended.

  23. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:10 am

    Am I the only one that thinks our current staff is just fine? We have just been killed with turnovers and injuries this year…

    Sad news on Greg Salas being out for season… The guy was just starting to get some notice in St. Louis… Next year Amendola will be back and Greg will get moved to the bench… Man, our Hawaii skill position players are cursed when they go to NFL… Other than Bess…

  24. haka November 7, 2011 7:11 am

    Go Warriors!

    When you’re under fire

    When you face the worst adversity

    When external chaos tries infiltrate your character

    When nobody believes but you

    You must remember…

    Keep the faith

    Stay together

    Have each others back

    Remain TEAM!

    Go Warriors!


    Go Warriors!

  25. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:14 am


    A coinky-dinky?

  26. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:15 am

    Reardon’s playing tounge in cheek obviously. Or is he…?

  27. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 7:15 am

    John L. Smith is looking for a HC job. I’d like to see him punch himself in the face again 🙂

  28. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:17 am

    The Warriors Rush Defense is ranked 26th in the nation and giving up an average of 117 yards per game. Not too shabby.

  29. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:17 am

    Anyway, I don’t want no trouble, so I’m just gonna stop talkin’ about the whole thing…

  30. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:18 am

    However, Nevada’s Pass Defense is ranked 54th and gives up 217 yards per game.

  31. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:23 am

    What I find much more suspicious is the fact that all SA on-line content will be free until the 14th. Is APEC trying to buy the silence of the many folks who won’t be able to leave their houses due to APEC’s massive security cordon? Free on-line content will surely make those long hours of sitting around the house go much faster…

  32. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:26 am


    Good points. It makes certain losses even more frustrating. We have the players.

  33. Kevin November 7, 2011 7:28 am

    Why hasn’t Jett been on the travel roster? Wasn’t he traveling before prior to getting a scholarship this year???

  34. Buffoman November 7, 2011 7:28 am

    I happen to believe that we have great, and I mean great kids on the Warrior team. And at times they are just young men who loose focus, make mental errors and fail to respond properly to changing situations. They are great young men.

    It then is the responsibility of the mentors, the coaches to recognize, understand and institute new thinking, all as a part of growth, to help these young men realize their fullest potential and act accordingly; on the field, in the classroom and in the community: all important and especially so since they are spotlighted.

    I believe the questioning that continues here is, are all facets being properly implemented for our young men.

    Make no mistake, being exceptional in all facets is a daunting task and there are but a few who have been able to accomplish that. I believe that former HC Tomey was one who could and did, not just at UH (SJSU is now seeing the body of his work).

    I will do as DPK and will just read.

  35. el burro sabio November 7, 2011 7:29 am


    November 6th, 2011 at 11:49 pm


    My biggest gripe is that as a whole our program has more resources, more support, more of everything than previous coaches ever had, yet we are churning out at best the same product. Off course the “same product” can easily be ripped to shreds by a multitude of facts and statistics about who we are really beating. But I tend to look at it in simple W-L records.

    Mack can’t go on a radio show and say how “if we had more resources, more money etc. that we would be more competitive” all the while being handed a program with exactly that and expect fans to not wonder for 2 seconds why we can’t beat beatable teams and why we only wipe one butt cheek before we flush.

    This is fine if all other schools had not done anything to improve themselves over the last 5 years. Surely most of them did not stand pat and not try to improve.

    No one is going to sit there and wait for them to beat you, not in facilities, program support, coaching, or on the field. Some posters (not speaking about IWWTHM) complain about things like the line missed a block, the coaches were outsmarted on this play, we didn’t get this recruit, etc. etc. Hey you’re playing against someone who is trying just as hard to beat you as you are trying to beat them. No team wins every single battle or succeeds on every play, and some people need to get real and realize that.

  36. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:29 am


    Where’s our Pass Defense at? I would like to see what our opponents average rushing yards per play is. The 26th in the nation number at rush d is actually misleadingly low because it does not take into account that teams typically play more possessions against us… We’d probably be in top 20 in average rush per play… (Just a guess)

  37. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:30 am

    John L. Smith would be interesting.

    But since he doesn’t like to play games in Hawaii, there would be a 13-game road schedule.

    I suppose that would resolve that one reader’s dilemma about whether to cancel his season tickets.

  38. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:32 am

    Know what the most misleading statistic is?

    Total defense, because it does not factor points allowed.

  39. 702WarriorFan November 7, 2011 7:32 am

    Morning Warrior Nation

    Besides playing against Reno after their bye, believe the weather will be an issue for the Warriors. Bring the warm gears and hope our receivers can catch hard ice footballs and running backs hold the ice ball too. Need to think warm too. Won’t be going to the game, need to give the team a chance to win this weekend since I’m 1 for 5 in live game. 48 and sunny in LV – high in low 50’s, so all is well in the desert.

  40. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:33 am

    Our D is also in top 20 in Sacks and interceptions…

  41. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:35 am

    By the way, since this appears to be the place where people vent, never start a sentence with: “My biggest gripe …”

    That’s like a hostage-taker saying: “My biggest demand is …”

    Because after that, every other demand seems petty.

    It should be: “One of my gripes is …”

  42. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:36 am


    Very true… I always liked points per possession but I can never find those stats…

  43. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 7:38 am


    My number 29 – I was talking about the unahou-Pay afia-May. 😆

    But I do agree whole heartedly with your #34 . Great points, well stated. 😉

  44. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:39 am


    Hawaii’s pass defense is ranked 78th and give up 238 yards per game.

    If want to keep track of stats, check the NCAA website.

  45. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 7:40 am

    Mike Sewak? Former UH assistant, former HC at Georgia Southern, now at Georgia Tech.

  46. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:42 am



  47. Hank November 7, 2011 7:43 am

    …I think it’ll be interesting to see how the Warriors finish…a winning season and a Hawaii Bowl win will give Mack an offer to stay I think. And I’m one who thinks that he and our Warriors can do it.

  48. Bryson November 7, 2011 7:44 am

    In all honesty if your a season ticket holder and are threatening to not renew next season midway through this season even when there is still a possibility of having a 9-10 win season…then by all means please do cause it seems like your support for this team changes like the tide…I mean really it’s not like we are 0-9….

  49. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:44 am


    We’re 117 in nation at fumbles lost… that’s ridiculous… Lots of cool stats on that website.. Thanks Shoko..

  50. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 7:45 am

    Just curious, but didn’t June Jones’ contract include having his children’s tuition paid for at a certain private school here in Honolulu?

  51. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:51 am

    McMackin confirms Clapp and Clayton Laurel are done for the season.

  52. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 7:52 am


    terrible news…

  53. Wes'side Warrior November 7, 2011 7:52 am

    As the Rascal’s sang:

    “It’s a beautiful mornin’… ahhh… I think I’ll go outside awhile an’ jus’ smile…”

    “Kukui” Nutt! Hahaha! Good one!

    Heal up, Warriors! We know you guys fight to the end. Keep at it!

  54. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 7:54 am

    Nevada has won 15 in a row at home.

  55. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 7:56 am

    Are Mouse Davis and Chris Ault still not talking to each other after all of these years?

  56. Slugger November 7, 2011 7:58 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Healing energy to Clayton Laurel, Justin Clapp, Royce Pollard, and all of the other ailing Warriors. Also healing & prayers for Tsaiko ‘ohana.

  57. Shoko November 7, 2011 8:00 am

    Pretty sure the confrontation between Ault and Davis has been put to rest. That was a long time ago, but then again…Ault tends to hold a grudge. 😉

  58. Shoko November 7, 2011 8:00 am

    What’s the deal with Pollard? Is he out for the season?

  59. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:01 am

    Rap Reiplinger, Henry Kapono, Don (the Magnificant) Muracco, Curtis (The Bull) Iakea, Peter Moon, Pal Eldridge. Some of my favorite Punahou grads.

  60. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:02 am


    They’re not sure beyond this week.

    But it’s better news than expected. This is a non-surgical recovery.

  61. Kevin November 7, 2011 8:05 am

    KGMB will be airing a Rap’s Hawaii-like special soon. Cant remember when, but I’ve seen the advertisements.

    “Haunted Hotel”

    “You Get Change???”

    -Some of my favorites when I was a kid.

  62. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:06 am

    Old School Dave:

    Does Peter Moon sing lead, or does he have other do that?

  63. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:06 am

    Sad to hear about Clapp and Laurel. Gonna really really miss Clapp out there. Let the healing be quick and painless.

  64. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:06 am

    As I’ve said before, a bunch of us got sprayed once when he gurgled: “Fate Yanagi … I love you!”

  65. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:08 am

    Is Garret going to weigh in?

    How long do we hold this time slot?

  66. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:08 am

    Stephan: I remember him from the Sunday Manoa days later the Peter Moon Band, and he was mostly a backup singer. Someone can correct me if I’m wrong. Those were some talented guys.

  67. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:10 am

    “Russell, you get pen?”

    “Hoa, you going get it when I tell the supavisah.”

    “And dats for a Mr Frog Tree?”

  68. Kevin November 7, 2011 8:12 am

    Peter Moon???

    Far away.. And out of touch… simple errors that I HATE so much… I do believe this bowl game… is far toooooooo hard for thee…..

    Sorry couldn’t resist.. 😆

  69. Kevin November 7, 2011 8:13 am

    “Russell!!!! Wot u going make fo da special????”


  70. Kevin November 7, 2011 8:15 am

    Justin Clapp is as tough as a $2.00 steak.

    Must come from his dad… Anyone remember him hobbling into work THE NEXT DAY after his bike accident with a car????


  71. Shoko November 7, 2011 8:15 am


    Thats good news that its non-surgical.

  72. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:15 am

    Do they still talk UH football on the Bobby Curran show?

    If not, anybody know of a radio program in the morning that does?

  73. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:16 am


    Curran is going to bring in a San Jose reporter to talk about the Kardashians next!!!

  74. Kevin November 7, 2011 8:17 am


    Between the hours of 6:00am and 6:20am.

  75. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:18 am

    The Sunday Manoa wrote and sang a song for locally produced commercial for United Air Lines years ago. There was also another local UAL commercial with Rockne Freitas playing a local pro football player named “Killer Kahapea” flying back to training camp on the mainland.

  76. tom mui November 7, 2011 8:18 am


    PolyMom – sorry to hear about your family emergency! Hope all will be well.

    Coach Mac said last night that the UH offensive team that played well at LA Tech is not the same as that which played on Saturday – that only one starter (other than Moniz, I think) was in the Saturday game against Utah State.

  77. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:19 am

    I just love Lamar Odom’s pained look when he had to pick up his sister-in-law at the airport. It was like: Get this darn lockout over with!

  78. ai-eee-soos November 7, 2011 8:21 am

    ST: What’s up with WR Joe Avery ?

    Isn’t he on the travel roster.

    Others have asked about him too.

  79. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:22 am

    I think he meant UH ended the game with Moniz and Legay as the only starters playing the same position they played against Louisiana Tech. I’ll have to check, but that would mean Jackson and not Iosefa started against LaTech.

  80. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:23 am

    “Unda da foaming merciless sea I could only tink of one ting…….. air…….an den her, Fate Yanagi – head cheerleader at Furtado Memorial High School.”

    Ah, Fate Yanagi. Love those scotch tape eye-lids, circa 1960-70s with local Asian girls in Hawaii. Brings back memories.

  81. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:23 am


    Pretty sure we had players like Stutzmann, Iosefa, Jackson, Clapp in the La Tech and Utah St. game.

  82. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 8:23 am

    Joe Avery was added to the travel roster for the last trip.

    He’s a great guy, works hard, and will be a future doctor. But he’s not high enough on the depth chart.

  83. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:24 am

    I never really enjoyed the skit with the robots in the church.

  84. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 8:27 am

    god dammit. Clapp and Laurel are huge losses. u can play with a torn meniscus, so i expect Pollard back ASAP.

  85. Garret November 7, 2011 8:28 am

    Sad news about Clapp and Laurel. UH’s OL has had so many injuries this season and LTs are crucial for any passing offense. Clapp went from a walk-on to a huge contributor that earned his status as a fan favorite.

    At least the news on Pollard isn’t as bad. I hope that he can play in the Fresno State game…that game will be crucial for both teams.

  86. Garret November 7, 2011 8:30 am

    Is Garret going to weigh in?

    How long do we hold this time slot?

    What was I supposed to weigh in on? I just finished a couple of big things for work and haven’t had time to post for awhile.

  87. PowderPuff November 7, 2011 8:30 am

    ST – you and your airport pick-ups eh? Oh my, BAD news for our injuries, especially Clapp. Shoot, and Pollard.

  88. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 8:34 am

    Garret –

    Ya know, the usual. Pretty much everything. Now get busy! 😉

  89. Garret November 7, 2011 8:36 am

    I don’t see why people are saying that UH may not make the Hawaii Bowl. UH just had to win 2 of 4 games, and 3 of them are in Hawaii. I think that UH will definitely win the Tulane and Fresno State games and have shots to win at Nevada and against BYU. So, I think UH will end up between 7-6 and 9-4 and will be in the Hawaii Bowl.

    Tulane is really bad right now–they are playing like how UH played towards the end of the Von Appen years…except that Tulane’s head coach already quit and their assistant coaches are living in month-to-month rentals because they know they are gone after the season also.

    Fresno State isn’t the Fresno State that UH has seen all these years. Fresno State is 3-6, is below UH in the WAC standings, and has to travel to Aloha Stadium for the game. UH won at Fresno State 49-27 last year, with the coaches coming up with a really good game plan and the players executing it well.

  90. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 8:39 am

    Garret, u do raise good points about home games and Tulane and Fresno sucking. but UNLV, SJSU and USU all suck too.

    plus we are now without our best OLM, best slot and best WR (for at least 1 games). D is gonna have to carry us like usual. JMO, i dont like Aranda’s double a gap blitz. it has burned us in 2 crucial situations already this season. SJSU game and the USU last drive. fix it.

  91. d1shima November 7, 2011 8:41 am

    Great Morning All!

    Poly Mom, best wishes for you and your Ohana.

    Always tough to hear about season-ending injuries.


    Please stop “setting the stage” for Tulane and CSU-F. I no can handle anymore “slam dunk” wins….

  92. Garret November 7, 2011 8:42 am

    Looks like the teams in the Western Division of the Big East want BYU to replace West Virginia in the Big East. BYU’s head coach just confirmed that talks are going on…and when public confirmation happens then we know that talks have been going on for awhile.

    The Big 12 wanted Air Force for all sports but they wanted to go football-only, so they prefer the Big East. BYU may want to go football-only for the Big East since they don’t want to leave the WCC so soon after joining.

    On Oct. 25, reported that the Western contingentof possible future Big East members was making a push to add BYU

    “There is a push,” Mendenhall said Monday. “And there are conversations that are in place for the Big East to convince or to have BYU join that conference. I trust our athletic director (Tom Holmoe) and President (Cecil) Samuelson to deal with all that. I’ve been informed along the way.”

  93. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 8:43 am

    Will there be a sell-out for the BYU game? Attendance is definitely a concern and troubling, especially after Saturday’s gate numbers of 26,000.

  94. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:43 am

    Holmoe is da man.

    Holmoe for burger King.

  95. Garret November 7, 2011 8:47 am

    letsgowarriors and d1shima,

    I hear what you are saying. I just choose to believe in this team and that they will win at least those games. The alternative is saying that the team will go 5-8. I honestly don’t think that will happen.

    Utah State showed spirit this season, losing a lot of games in the 4th quarter.

    Fresno State just lost by 20 points at home to La Tech.

    Tulane is the last place team in CUSA West and lost their last 4 games by 37, 16, 21, and 21 points. Their next game is against Houston.

  96. Garret November 7, 2011 8:51 am

    JJ says that SMU will play in the Hawaii Bowl if UH will be the opponent. ESPN wants that matchup and the media blitz that ESPN will do will give both schools a lot of free publicity.

    If UH does *not* qualify for the Hawaii Bowl, SMU isn’t going to play in Hawaii either. How many people would show up for Southern Miss vs. La Tech in the Hawaii Bowl? Zero TV draw and zero appeal for attendance would be horrible for the Hawaii Bowl’s bottom line and would not give the state any economic boost from traveling fans.

    So, the alternative to UH not making the Hawaii Bowl has huge implications beyond Mack’s contract and recruiting.

  97. Stretch November 7, 2011 8:54 am

    David Matlin better be making a Plan B

  98. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 8:56 am


    When we gonna have one?

  99. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 9:04 am

    Another coach (position) with Hawaii ties who may be available soon.

  100. Kevin November 7, 2011 9:04 am

    I could not understand Saturday’s TURNSTILE attendance of less than 27,000.

    I know Hawaii folk are softies when it comes to the rain, but geez.. I have NEVER seen attendance that low before for a D1 opponent. And no matter what ANYONE says, I HAVE NEVER SEEN THE STUDENT SECTION THAT EMPTY BEFORE EITHER. I mean we’re talking ONE row at the bottom and pockets here and there.

    MANY other student-athletes were MIA, I know for sure some were tucked away preparing for midterms for sure and for FACT, but the rest… I dunno.

    I’ve heard two rumors:

    -Students took exception for Coach Mack singling them out for “fighting” last home game, felt offended and boycotted the game.

    -Aloha stadium and UH authorities took the seating privilege away for this one game due to the fight last home game also.

    Both rumors don’t make sense because:


  101. Kevin November 7, 2011 9:05 am

    Head coaching criteria and “Hawaii Ties” are OVER-RATED.

  102. Garret November 7, 2011 9:06 am

    Actually, I just read up on CUSA bowl slotting and it looks like a school like Marshall would be coming to Hawaii if SMU doesn’t come, not Southern Miss. Tulsa came last year, Houston and Southern Miss look to have more prominent ($$) bowls, which leaves a group of CUSA schools that are currently 4-5 and hoping to get bowl-eligible so they can get to Hawaii.

    So, it is SMU or a school that is currently has a 4-5 record who has zero TV draw.

  103. Kevin November 7, 2011 9:07 am


    November 7th, 2011 at 8:56 am


    When we gonna have one?

    There are two more regular season home Wahine volleyball matches and one more fall exhibition softball game.

  104. d1shima November 7, 2011 9:08 am

    Yep. As I suspected, no USU fans are saying that they were fortunate that 3 Hawaii starters left the game so they had a chance to win; that Hawaii graduated three NFL’ers from last season; that Hawaii has a patchwork OLine.

    None of that seems to matter from the USU viewpoint.

    Went bed at 1/2 time disappointed and absoultely sure the Aggies fate was doomed. Read the news this morning now I’m stunned and disappointed in myself that I just missed probably one of the greatest comebacks in USU history.

    Congratulations on the comeback for a win at Hawaii. The Aggies finally win a close one and that late in Hawaii when the Warriors usually have a big advantage.

    This has to be a BIG upset as Utah State has blown too many 4th quarter leads.

  105. Garret November 7, 2011 9:10 am

    Wow, is BYU’s coach actually using the term “renouncing their football independence?

    There is a “push” for BYU to join the new-look Big East, according to BYU head coach Bronco Mendenhall. The coach also told reporters at a Monday press availability session that there are “conversations in place” for the Cougars to renounce their football independence and flee for the ever-expanding BCS automatic-qualifier conference.

    BYU would be the “western partner” that fellow Big East aspirant Boise State is seeking, and could certainly follow the Broncos’ footsteps by aligning itself with the Big East as a football-only school.

  106. Kevin November 7, 2011 9:10 am


    As the UNLV game progressed, the mood in the standing room only Manoa Gardens bar on campus wasn’t good. Every TV shot of Coach Mack on the sidelines drew laughter and snide remarks from the students.

    Conversations between groups of them echoed my uncomfortable sentiments over the past year since Hawaii Bowl 2010.

    (And before anyone says anything… older Hawaii fans for the most part say the same thing anyway…)

  107. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 9:11 am


    very true. haha.

  108. jm2375 November 7, 2011 9:11 am

    For those of you who will be attending the Reno game in person, be sure to look up my cuz at either of the eating establishments she’s employed at. Famous Dave’s BBQ and Firkin & Wolf (pub). She’s a die-hard UH fan from Palolo. 😀 Look for a tall hapa girl named Sherra.

  109. Old School Dave November 7, 2011 9:11 am

    Gary Anderson is quietly building a solid program at USU. He has a clear plan and his recruiting strategy is starting to pay dividends. It’s not easy to recruit players to Logan, Utah. He’s also a Utah guy who understands how the returned missionary program can be a plus in the long run.

  110. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 9:12 am


    So someone gave him a thesaurus for his birthday…woot

  111. Stretch November 7, 2011 9:13 am

    d1 – as many said last week, “a win is a win”. For Utah St, it doesn’t matter how they won, or who was out of the game for UH, they won.

  112. Stretch November 7, 2011 9:15 am


    November 7th, 2011 at 9:11 am

    For those of you who will be attending the Reno game in person, be sure to look up my cuz at either of the eating establishments she’s employed at. Famous Dave’s BBQ and Firkin & Wolf (pub). She’s a die-hard UH fan from Palolo. Look for a tall hapa girl named Sherra.

    Is she going to give me a discount??

  113. d1shima November 7, 2011 9:15 am

    They do have some comments about Hawaii though…

    How bad is Hawaii. They lost to UNLV who SUU beat. UNLV could beat USU as could SUU on any night. SO what does this mean for Hawaii? I don’t know but they need to think hard about next year.

  114. d1shima November 7, 2011 9:18 am

    Well, it could be worse.

    We could be season ticket holders in Happy Valley! 😈

  115. d1shima November 7, 2011 9:20 am


    Like I said, I ain’t into watching visiting teams celebrating on Hawaiian Airlines Field!

  116. Haleakala November 7, 2011 9:27 am

    I’m sorry to hear about all the Warrior injuries including that of Justin Clapp. I recall his breakout game in Las Vegas. When he caught a ball I would call out “Clapp again”, and clap my hands. The guy sitting next to me gave me a look like okay, nuff already.

  117. kev-1 November 7, 2011 9:28 am

    #104 . . . all of those things are true, but NO they don’t matter to a USU fan, not does it really matter for UH.

    Those things you list are not the reason why UH lost that game. Regardless of the loss of starters to injury, this team is good enough to hold on to a 28-7 lead. They just blew it.

    And we need to stop using the loss of Salas, Pilares, and Green as excuses already. This team has underachieved. I’m not saying they are a terrible team, but they have underachieved for sure. SO FAR. Still can make the Hawaii Bowl.

  118. kev-1 November 7, 2011 9:30 am

    IMO the loss of Clapp will have a greater impact than the absence of Pollard. We just lost a very reliable receiver.

    Clapp . . . sorry to hear about your injury. You were having a very inspirational season. You epitomize the results of hard work and determination. You will be missed.

  119. duffer November 7, 2011 9:30 am

    Other than kickoff/punt returns, did Scott Harding get to play?

  120. Hiflyer November 7, 2011 9:37 am

    Who’s going to the Na Koa lunch today?

  121. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 9:42 am


    I am going to make it but might be a little later. 11:15ish.

  122. Bowwar November 7, 2011 9:45 am

    Have faith, we have young men who have to dig deep in facing adversity. Crap happens sometimes & there is nothing you do about it except pick yourself up & get back into the game. All four of our losses were hard fought & our team never quit. Now is the time for our FANS to step up & back the team!!


  123. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 9:46 am

    Just spoke with Rolo and Pollard. It’s slim but Pollard not ruled out.

  124. Garret November 7, 2011 9:47 am

    It is interesting to see that it appears that BYU and SDSU may be competing for the final spot in the Big East, or both could join if the Big East loses 1 more team or Air Force decides not to go. Tulsa World used an FOIA request to get copies of e-mails that schools sent to Oklahoma…and SDSU’s associate AD shows how SDSU was trying to get into the Big 12 over BYU.

    Is there anything that Jim or I can be doing to share the message about all San Diego States advantages? Or for that matter sharing all the disadvantages of being in the conference with BYU!

    Thanks Joe. Talk to you soon.

    Go Aztecs! Jenny

    Jenny Bramer

    San Diego State University Associate Athletic Director

  125. Garret November 7, 2011 9:49 am

    Note on the first page of that link is an e-mail from a BYU alum to Oklahoma telling Oklahoma why they should *not* invite BYU to the Big 12.

  126. Buffoman November 7, 2011 9:51 am

    Hey Garret, why couldn’t JD do the same? Do we have advantages over SDSU (I’d include travel subsidies to begin to level the distance and travel playing field).

  127. Kevin November 7, 2011 9:54 am

    Backing the program and the student-athletes are a given for REAL fans. No ONE man is greater than ANY UH program.


  128. HawaiiMongoose November 7, 2011 10:00 am

    When it comes to the receiver corps I’m not too worried about the slot positions. Clapp is a big loss but Miah and Billy Ray are both productive. If necessary Paclebar and Harding can fill in.

    However the situation at wideout is very concerning. Trevor Davis is still raw and in the USU game it looked like he hurt his shoulder and was favoring it. At the other wideout the next guy on the depth chart is Bright who’s still badly dinged up. Who’s left? Charles Clay, Joe Avery and Jett Jasper… anyone else?

    I hate to see it happen but I think another player is gonna lose a redshirt year… either Cecil Doe or Chris Gant or both.

  129. koakane November 7, 2011 10:03 am

    gloomy monday everyone

    well waited the mandatory 24 added another 12 plus the one snap ……. but no can. still no believe what I witnessed on saturday. One time even two time can but three times give me a break. Imho seriously think warriors will not make the mandatory 7 wins so besides no repeat WAC champions say adios to Hawaii Bowl. Asking akua to help and if it happens so be it.

    On the other hand hard to say it but we need a change mahalo for the memories but gotta move on.

  130. Garret November 7, 2011 10:05 am


    I would be surprised if JD isn’t talking with other conferences. Saying it in public is not a good idea unless the other conference is receptive.

    SDSU beat Navy in a bowl game last season. SDSU is 5-3 this season, with a Sagarin ranking of 72 (UH is 109). SDSU is in a bigger TV market than UH. SDSU gets higher TV ratings for their football and basketball teams than the Pac-12 gets…so they actually can claim this huge TV market for themselves.

    If UH was rated highly this season, I could see JD having a stronger case. But SDSU right now has a better football team, a bigger TV market, a stronger recruiting area, and lesser travel than UH. No matter how great a sales pitch JD might give, those are hard things to overcome.

    Back to work now…hope that was enough weighing in for ST.

  131. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 10:06 am

    if anyone wants me to ask a question at the lunch, please post it here.

  132. Stretch November 7, 2011 10:07 am

    For someone to keep a promise….

    Hawaii needs to win at Nevada AND against Fresno St

    Nevada will have to lose an additional game against La Tech, Idaho or at Utah St

    La Tech would need to lose a game at Nevada or NM St.

  133. Old Diver November 7, 2011 10:08 am

    If Pollard is not 100% he needs to sit. We will need him for the Fresno State game. We have to play the percentages. Like Garret said the Hawaii Bowl is not out of the picture yet. Let the injured rest this week, this will give the reserves a chance to get game experience, and for the team to be as near full strength as possible against Fresno State.

  134. Stretch November 7, 2011 10:10 am

    iwonder – can you ask Tuitoi, “When Mack says that he takes full responsibility, as he did with the other 2 ugly loses at UNLV and SJSU, what does that really mean?”

  135. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 10:11 am

    ask if mack is pecked off.

  136. madeinhawaii November 7, 2011 10:13 am

    Huge losses for the team.. ho boy… Hope they heal up well.

  137. al November 7, 2011 10:13 am

    not going to happen. too many variables.

  138. koakane November 7, 2011 10:14 am

    Garret no disrespect to #89 but wasn’t your preseason pick 11-2

    no matter still appreciate you researches and sport info’s

  139. Darren November 7, 2011 10:17 am

    Ask if he really feels that this team is: 1) overachieving, 2) playing to full potential, or 3) underachieving?

    If we can ascertain that it’s (1) or (2), then there is no need for change.

  140. Darren November 7, 2011 10:17 am

    Also, don’t want to see the blame being placed on the players (Mr. Bobby Curran)…they’re playing their guts out each and every snap. We seemed to have some prior teams that just checked it in when things went south. This team is not one of them.

  141. al November 7, 2011 10:19 am

    we should be 7-2.

    losing twice in the waning moments are losses you hang on the head coach.

  142. Old Diver November 7, 2011 10:20 am

    Adding to my #133:

    It should be made clear to the injured starters that they will not be playing in Nevada. This will allow the reserves to practice with the mind set that they will be starting. That alone works wonders on their concentration and moral during practice. Guys will step up if given a chance.

  143. koakane November 7, 2011 10:22 am

    hemolele pipi agree with # 137 ………. bwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  144. BigWave96744 November 7, 2011 10:22 am

    Garret Wrote:

    I don’t see why people are saying that UH may not make the Hawaii Bowl. UH just had to win 2 of 4 games, and 3 of them are in Hawaii. I think that UH will definitely win the Tulane and Fresno State games and have shots to win at Nevada and against BYU. So, I think UH will end up between 7-6 and 9-4 and will be in the Hawaii Bowl.

    Tulane is really bad right now–they are playing like how UH played towards the end of the Von Appen years…except that Tulane’s head coach already quit and their assistant coaches are living in month-to-month rentals because they know they are gone after the season also.

    Fresno State isn’t the Fresno State that UH has seen all these years. Fresno State is 3-6, is below UH in the WAC standings, and has to travel to Aloha Stadium for the game. UH won at Fresno State 49-27 last year, with the coaches coming up with a really good game plan and the players executing it well.


    WOW, are you serious? Only have to win 2 of 4? Definitely beat Tulane and Fresno St?

    I would put Tulane Better than UNLV..

    BYU Beat Utah St. They are 6-3 with loses to Texas, Utah, TCU.

    Fresno State Smoked Idaho by 24 at Idaho and beat Utah St by 10

    and @Nevada??? Pack is 5-3 with loses to Oregon, Boise St and 1 point lost at Texas Tech

  145. RedZone November 7, 2011 10:23 am

    No one can predict the future. A guess at best.

  146. koakane November 7, 2011 10:24 am

    wow two times now # 141 …… luv u man

  147. LizKauai November 7, 2011 10:24 am

    Hateme- just tell the Coaches at lunch that THEY ARE LOVED and the TEAM IS LOVED and WE ARE ROOTING FOR THEM TO HEAL AND WIN!

    Tell ’em it’s from me if you don’t feel that way personally.


    In the meantime… today is Waimea Menehune Day… I have shed Warrior (Kapaa) Green and am all in Blue. GO BIG BLUE!!!

    Playoff game at Vidinha Stadium at 3

  148. koakane November 7, 2011 10:26 am

    BW# sad and sorry but must agree also but hope I’m wrong

  149. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:34 am


    I have 8 questions:

    1) Really?

    2) really?

    3) REALLY?

    4) ReAllY?

    5) WTF?

    6) Again?

    7) Why?

    8) REALLY?

  150. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:34 am

    Actually, Stretch has the BEST question.

  151. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:35 am


    Can you ask Mack that Gerry Santos is wondering if he’s heard about the watershed.

  152. Pride. November 7, 2011 10:38 am

    Eyes closed while facing Manoa chanting, “only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, ea, ea.”

  153. BigWave96744 November 7, 2011 10:39 am

    Al, if the Idaho kicker makes the FG at the end, it would be 3 come from behind games that we would have lost to the bottom feeders of the WAC… Not good at all..

    Under Mack we have lost to UNLV, SJSU and Utah St, twice, Idaho once and almost twice.

    See the link below for the worst losses in the Mack Era

  154. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:42 am

    Big Wave Dave,

    Upon further review, with the evidence at hand and SOLIDIFIED a few days ago.. It appears that the program’s overall record under Coach Mack is NOT indicative of the true progress or lack thereof we have made.

  155. LizKauai November 7, 2011 10:46 am

    It’s a sad day when Tsai-kos turn into haters…

    What do you want? Want the coach, the team to quit now and not finish the season? Will it make you happy to be “right” about blaming someone?

    It is easy to point out in hindsight what went right or wrong…

    I leave that to the Warriors because they can DO something about it for the next game.

    But if you want to kill the spirit of this team- just go on doing like you are…

    But please take it somewhere else or shout into your pillow or write an email to someone…

    I want to see the boys finish their season with WINS just like you do… and I will do my part to provide POSITIVE, UNCONDITIONAL LOVE and ENERGY.


  156. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:51 am

    Times are changing in college football and college athletics.

    Winning is MORE important than ever for football. Softball and baseball can go to their respective World Series, volleyball can reach the final four or win another NC, we can land another national high jump champion, and basketball can make their return to the NCAAs, but still….

    It all rides on ONE sport and for that… I don’t think the expectations are “too much”.

    People have commented that football is king and makes the money for the other programs they feel are worthless bottomfeeders that leech off football’s earnings and during times of heavy football cash flow, they get all monku monku about the costs of other sports, even the smaller revenue producing ones and quietly or openly wish the other sports be relegated to home made uniforms or intramural status with coaches being paid McDonald’s type hourly salaries….

    If football is king and we can accept that, then one needs to understand that the pressure, NOWADAYS, of football to win has HIGHER stakes outside of the program itself. Now is that fair??? I don’t think so, but it is what it is and some people shouldn’t gripe about that added expectation from the football head coach.

    TODAY and going forward, that is a new responsibility and expectation.

    If it’s not fair, we only have ourselves to blame.

  157. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 10:55 am

    Not to change the subject, but the verdict on MJ’s Doc is going to be announced within minutes on CNN.

  158. LizKauai November 7, 2011 10:55 am

    PS… When the team loses… it does not make me look bad for supporting them.

    Why would anyone act fearful and ashamed and attack the coaches and players for losing?

  159. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:56 am

    Follow the $$$$$$$$$$$$….

    Football wins or loses it effects not only 100 something student-athletes, it effects 400 something of them.

    More money football loses, less to go around and LESS accomodartions for other student-athletes as well. Budgetary cuts to other programs, etc…

    I didn’t make the rules, but gotta play by them…. that or one can get out of the game, but I don’t like that option.

  160. LizKauai November 7, 2011 10:56 am

    MJ is in the heavenly choir… don’t care about who gets blamed for his passing…

  161. funny November 7, 2011 10:58 am

    Considering the fact that they have shown that they could play as poorly at home as they do on the road and the injuries incurred this past weekend, it is entirely possible for the Warriors to fail to qualify for the Hawaii Bowl. Nevada and BYU will be very tough teams and the two lesser teams, Tulane and Fresno, are not gimmees. Going 2-2 over the last four is a tough nut.

  162. LizKauai November 7, 2011 10:59 am

    We have lost our way when $$$$ means more than human beings… Where there is love and unity, a way will be found.


  163. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:59 am

    Spoiler Alert:

    The jury calls upon MJ’s Dr. and reveals he’s been PUNKED. Ashton Kutcher and Michael Jackson come dancing to Thriller out from the backroom.

  164. LizKauai November 7, 2011 11:00 am

    163 😆

  165. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:03 am


    Monies for student-athletes (via athleic scholarships and athletic program donations) and the materials in tutoring and athletic development which allow them to compete in the classroom and on the field or court cannot be paid for with bits of string and lolipops.

    I didn’t make the rules and trying to change it only sets back the goals of financial support that are urgently needed today.

    Personally, Im not too much concerned about what SHOULD be done as opposed to what CAN be done.

  166. PolyMom November 7, 2011 11:05 am

    Verdict is guilty.

  167. Garret November 7, 2011 11:06 am

    Garret no disrespect to #89 but wasn’t your preseason pick 11-2

    no matter still appreciate you researches and sport info’s


    I understand your point. I have already stated that I am *choosing* to remain optimistic about the season. I have been working hard to provide what I think is the most defensible optimistic projection. My prediction went from 12-2 with a WAC title to 10 wins to 7 wins.

    Given the Utah State loss and the injuries, I expect UH to lose at Nevada on Saturday. That would put UH at 5-5 with 3 home games to end the season.

    There are a lot of people that assume that UH won’t win 2 out of those 3. I am *choosing* to not think that could happen. The implications for UH would be significant and long-reaching if it did, going way beyond Mack’s contract and situation with UH. I am choosing with my heart, not my head, in deciding to remain optimistic.

    Others clearly think that UH will go 6-7 or 5-8. That is their choice and given the losses to SJSU and UNLV especially, I can see why they might think that. I hope that what they think does not happen.

    So, no matter what happens in Reno this weekend, I am choosing to remain optimistic that UH can win 2 out of the last 3 games at Aloha Stadium. I don’t think that Fresno or Tulane are better than La Tech, for example.

    If UH loses to both Nevada and Fresno, then my optimism will be gone. But not until then…and I hope that doesn’t happen.

    There is a whole other discussion that can happen on whether or not 7-6 would be worth $1.1 mil or a contract extension. But I rather focus on my hope that the Warrior players will get to play in the Hawaii Bowl and the seniors won’t have their careers end against BYU.

  168. PolyMom November 7, 2011 11:06 am

    Thanks for the warm thoughts. Much appreciated.

  169. Garret November 7, 2011 11:10 am


    Sadly, all of the nonrevenue sports are dependent on football revenue. It doesn’t make their hard work and sacrifice any less worthy of our support, but it is a fact that without enough money being made from football then other sports would get cut. And without football there would be 85 less scholarship female athletes…that would decimate the entire UHAD.

    I understood your happiness last year’s success and how that helped the nonrevenue sports get the Big West spot that makes so much sense for them and will reduce the travel burden on all non-football teams. So I also understand your perspective on this season…that is why I’ve been indirectly saying that the consequences of this football season go well beyond the football team.

  170. LizKauai November 7, 2011 11:13 am

    Understood, Kevin.

    We live in times when antiquated solutions don’t suit modern problems.

    The doctors are running around with bandaids while the patients are hemorrhaging.

    There is no easy fix. It will require something we have never done before. It will require truthfulness, love and unity. Those are qualities that every person can achieve in their own lives to contribute to the benefit of the whole of our ailing society.

  171. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 11:14 am

    the thing is, i think we SHOULD win at least 2 of the last 4 games. in fact, it should be a non discussion, bc like al said, we should probably be 7-2 right now. i got faith in the players, but i have no confidence in Mack and the staff. we have the talent, even with injuries, to win at least 2 more games. but will the coaches put the team in the best position to win those games? based on history, i dont think they will.

    we should have beat all those shitty teams like UNLV, SJSU and USU. but we didnt. we should beat mediocre teams like Nevada, Fresno and Tulane, but will we?

  172. expat November 7, 2011 11:16 am

    There is a big difference between accepting responsibility for a situation and being accountable for it. When Mack says that he accepts “responsibility” it means nothing. He is already responsible as he is the guy driving the bus. The question is how accountable he is.

  173. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 11:16 am

    shoot, we should be 8-1 right now.

  174. jeezy33 November 7, 2011 11:22 am

    When will Mack stop making excuses???

    Saying we have a tons of injuries and throwing in i’m not making an excuse doesn’t cancel out your excuse. That is the reason this football team is so inconsistent because the head coach just finds reasons as to why we aren’t playing at a higher level. It’s not all about the wins to me. It’s how poorly prepared our football team is.

    Injuries aren’t the reasons we couldn’t run the football in the 2nd half after doing so in the 1st. Not the reason we couldn’t cover 2 obvious fake punts. Not the reason our DB’s can’t bat balls on plays right in front of them instead of trying to get a big hit or pick. Our O line protected Moniz good and there is no excuse to putting up 3 points in the 2nd half.

    What’s the next excuse, we prepared all week for a running QB who didn’t throw well and all of a sudden a QB could throw the long ball and we weren’t ready for it?

    Well teams know we can’t throw the deep ball so maybe is Shane Austin is out there, it will give us a new element in our passing game.

  175. WWF November 7, 2011 11:23 am

    What looks like problems to some are opportunities for others. Show them what you can do, in Nevada, Corey, Joe and Jett!

  176. BigWave96744 November 7, 2011 11:23 am

    #171, LetgoWarriors, you hit it on the head and I concur with you 100%…

    Players bust their butts and are put into position by the coaches.

    All those last minute defeats are faults of the coaches not the players.

    The lack of offensive production is not the players fault, it’s the play calling.

    Regardless of the injuries, this is one of the weakest schedule since 2007.

    Fresno St and Nevada have killer OOC opponents.

    Conservative play calling and bad special team has haunted the team since 2008. Now it’s come to a head and taking it’s toll on the outcome

  177. jeezy33 November 7, 2011 11:29 am

    Does it bother anyone how many steps back this program is taking???

    Next year, we will have a younger offensive line, new QB, new D line and LBs. Tougher schedule.

    When are the excuses gonna stop instead of just putting together a team that can win?

    Mack is trying to sell that we are 5-4, I don’t see the problem with the fans.

    Those wins:

    Colorado- 1-9 . Could care less what conference they affiliate with

    UC Davis- Supposedly they are giant killers.

    NMSU- 3-6

    La Tech- only win against a winning opponent and we blew them out. Where is that team?

    Idaho- 2-7

    This just isn’t acceptable unless we want to enter the Von Appen era sooner or later.

  178. LizKauai November 7, 2011 11:29 am

    “The saddest summary of life contains three descriptions: could have, might have, and should have.” ~ Unknown

    For personal health…

  179. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 11:30 am

    jeezy33, LMAO, look wat mack has to say…

    McMackin said the injury to Utah State starting quarterback Chuckie Keeton that resulted in the insertion of backup Adam Kennedy, “sort of flip flops your game plan because he (Kennedy) is a thrower and he made two great throws and they made great catches. We were sort of set up for the freshman (Keeton) who was a liitle more inaccurate (in) his passing game and this guy came in and really did a good job. He was obviously ready.”

  180. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:30 am

    Would anyone take issue with Coach Mack remaining with the program as DC?

  181. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 11:31 am

    so we were prepared for an inaccurate QB LOL.

  182. d1shima November 7, 2011 11:32 am

    The lack of offensive production is not the players fault, it’s the play calling.

    The OC called the first half and was constantly being interrupted by the HC in the second half…

  183. d1shima November 7, 2011 11:35 am

    Kennedy’s accuracy is why he was on the roster and it was what killed Hawaii Saturday

  184. letsgowarriors November 7, 2011 11:36 am

    of course. bc we prepared our D for an inaccurate QB. so when an accurate one came in, we were screwed.

  185. Iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:41 am


    Mack is a proven and respected DC. That’s all I’ll say. 🙂

  186. Warrior98 November 7, 2011 11:41 am

    When a coach is paid 1.1m, you expect more. The justification is that he will generate ticket sales. Well ticket sales are down. I will buy my season tickets forever, but would like to see the support in the stands, and there won’t be any unless the team wins. That’s the nature of sports.

  187. expat November 7, 2011 11:45 am

    Fresno has had a tough season so far, but if we cannot get offensive production we are going to lose to them as well. Their QB can sling it and our D has proven to be vulnerable to big plays.

    The USU and SJSU games were both winnable and should have been won because in both cases we had the lead going into the last series. As a few players said, it can be a game of inches, and in 2007 there were, what, three games that came down to the last play/series? Four? Sometimes the other team doesn’t cough it up on the last drive. Sometimes they make the last second, make or break catch. And your guy doesn’t.

    The game against a good UDub team was played pretty tight and besides the kicking issues there was no shame in that loss (there should never be a time when you give up a blocked PAT that gets returned for 2 — and we have done it twice this season). UNLV was a disaster and UH just got beat.

    The team could very easily be at 7-2 right now. Maybe an ugly 7-2, but in 2007 that was an ugly 12-0. You have to remember that in 2007 of the four games that went down to the last series – LaTech, Nevada, SJSU, and UDub – none of those teams finished the season with a winning record. In fact in 2007 the only teams we beat who had a winning record (including the two FCS teams) were Fresno and Boise State.

    That 2007 team got some breaks and, no question, they made their own luck. This year the team has not been as fortunate. But, there is only one game that they have not been competitive, and that is a good sign.

  188. d1shima November 7, 2011 11:51 am

    This is funny…

  189. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 11:54 am

    Mo apparently is injured. Went to doc today.

  190. Otto November 7, 2011 11:58 am

    Kind of reminds me of Bob Wagner’s firing. Team underacheived that year (although overall career record still good)… Newspapers saying fans not happy… attendence is down… dissention on the team… AD fires coach saying attendence is critical… Riley speaking out at press conference… Assistance AD (JD) tells Riley to be quiet, cuz he can be next….

  191. Hoohiki November 7, 2011 11:59 am

    Like #167. Thanks for your perspective, Garret.

  192. d1shima November 7, 2011 11:59 am


  193. d1shima November 7, 2011 12:02 pm

    Aside from their 15-game home winning streak Reno has another aspect in recent history that should be a concern

    Nevada head coach Chris Ault has well over 200 wins in his Hall of Fame career three dozen of those victories have been comeback victories in the last 30 minutes of games. Ault entered this year with 34 come-from-behind wins and entering this week’s game against Hawaii, Ault and the Wolf Pack are riding back-to-back comeback wins that give the coach 36 for his career.

    It’s going to take more than a fast start in Reno….

  194. ai-eee-soos November 7, 2011 12:06 pm

    re: #190 Otto: I vividly remember that newsclip.

    _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _


    November 7th, 2011 at 11:58 am

    Kind of reminds me of Bob Wagner’s firing. Team underacheived that year (although overall career record still good)… Newspapers saying fans not happy… attendence is down… dissention on the team… AD fires coach saying attendence is critical… Riley speaking out at press conference…*** Assistance AD (JD) tells Riley to be quiet, cuz he can be next. ***

  195. Kevin November 7, 2011 12:06 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 7th, 2011 at 11:54 am

    Mo apparently is injured. Went to doc today.

    I think I just heard some people smirk and smile and nod all of a sudden.

  196. Buffoman November 7, 2011 12:12 pm

    The interesting thing about Wag’s time was that his success were largely due to some terrific assistant coaches, who left for greener fields. The folks who Wags brought in to fill the void were nice folks but just did not have that element (I’ll qualify this by saying at the time as I can’t remember if Sewak and Niomatalolo(sp?) also left). Things started to decline with the exedus of great assistants and the inability to restock (dollars, the lack of them, may have been the root of the problem as we see some of that today with pay for assistants).

    In this case, we’ve been inconsistent from the get go and really have not seen marked improvement for one who is at the top of the State government payroll food chain. I also believe what has especially upset many is how we fold when on national television. And when in the big game (Hawaii Bowl) we’ve looked pretty bad against ND and Tulsa. The excuse may be we were overmatched, but hey, didn’t we ask to be on that stage? We did, when we decided to place the HC at the top of the State Government payroll line so the expectation is no excuses.

  197. Don Weir November 7, 2011 12:26 pm

    Old School Dave

    Lead ukulele heard on ‘Kawika’ of Sunday Manoa Days at Primo Gardens.

  198. al November 7, 2011 12:30 pm

    bigwave dude…first off…how’s the little riders doing?

    yup, i agree with you and letsgowarrior. same page.

    i forgot about the lucky whiff in the idaho game. but again we allowed the opponent back in to the game with less than a minute to play. we gave em like 32 seconds when and a short field. who does that with a known kicker with a long leg????

    kick away inspite of haddens hip he still got it up to the ten with plenty enough hang time that they would still be at their 25 yd line at best. we gave em an extra 20 yards = two downs or 15 seconds. and we blew our last time out at that.

    then this week….argh.

    its time.

  199. jm2375 November 7, 2011 12:32 pm

    Stretch – mebbe, if you really nice to her. She’s been homesick lately…

    music by her dad and brother –

  200. al November 7, 2011 12:32 pm

    its a wonder that mo hasn’t been to the doc all season.

    its a credit to his toughness that he goes back out there week after week.

  201. al November 7, 2011 12:34 pm

    i thought you play to win??

    ever since that cincinatti game we continue to shoot ourselves in the foot by playing not to lose.

    too often we had chances to bury the opponent, yet, time and again we allow them back in to the game.

  202. Don Weir November 7, 2011 12:40 pm

    Poly Mom

    Phone calls lit up this morning.

    Na Koa Prez and Exec Dir can meet with you and me if you hop over to HNL.

    Best wishes with your Mom.

    You have the number.

  203. BigWave96744 November 7, 2011 12:56 pm

    While reading online respones and listening to the radio call in shows, I wonder how some “Optimistic” people felt in closing weeks of Von Appen, Bolla, and Nash’s final season before being terminated??? I wonder if they were telling people that we have the best coach out there… I wonder if they were angry at those wanting a coaching change. I wonder if they were saying that coach is human, has bills to pay, and should be allowed to finish out their contract on their own term and leave when they want to leave.

    Again, just wondering…..

    Also Like Kevin said, college atheletic is about the $$$ and “W”.

    No athlete wants to go to a school because it has a great graduation rate. If not Rice and Duke would rule the Football World

  204. kalani November 7, 2011 1:01 pm


    November 7th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    i thought you play to win??

    According to Herm Edwards you do!

  205. 1sportsfan November 7, 2011 1:02 pm

    This USU game was erractic but that’s what competitive sports are all about. If you are a better team, then you make the adjustments, etc. to pull a W out. But looking at the breaks that went USU’s way, it is pretty amazing. Like to two 4th down punt conversions. The tipped ball that still was caught. The tipped lateral that resulted in a first down. Like you knock out the starting QB and the backup is murder. The amazing catch that went through two UH defenders. But, Mac is right. If the O scored one more time, they win the game.

  206. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 1:10 pm

    Just got back from the Na Koa thing. Tuitoti is a good speaker and shared some insights on various plays.

    Was in the presence of a “high maka maka” decision maker at UH…

  207. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 1:14 pm

    Lots of talk lately about UH should throw more passes over the middle.

    But one NFL Green Bay Packer receiver recently praised Aaron Rodgers

    for not doing that. He said Brett Farve did that all the time and guys

    got hurt. Look at Salas and now Clapp.

    Also wonder if Sterling Jackson would shine as wide receiver?

  208. Lose $ November 7, 2011 1:15 pm

    it’s gonna be a long 4 weeks……

  209. 808bowler November 7, 2011 1:21 pm

    Why do I see posts bout new head coaches here? I think mack is doing fine. Runs a clean program (from wat I know), exciting brand of offense tough defense. fine this year been tough with injuries and inexperience but thats wat happens to every mid major. He brings in gud character kids. Wins will come. Can’t forget last year 10-3 record. think would be suicide to hire a new coach going to a tougher conference. I support the team no matter wat.

    Heal up and go warriors!!!!!:-)

  210. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 1:26 pm

    Reno Wolfpack’s defensive lineman Jack Reynoso is out with

    a broken leg… And their starting qb was injured, too, but is

    expected to start against UH.

  211. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 1:28 pm

    China has some big guys for basketball all the time.

    Maybe instead of Gib going over there, we should send

    a football scout to see if we can snag a few wide receivers…

  212. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 1:29 pm

    Maybe grab a couple of North Koreans for denfense?

  213. funny November 7, 2011 1:33 pm

    @207 – not surprised to hear a WR complain about a QB throwing over the middle of the field. However, that is a part of the game and any pass oriented offense will throw there when that part of the field is open. Perhaps the unhappy WR should have moved to DB lol. As far as Sterling Jackson, he would shine as a RB is Mack would get him more touches. He adds another dimension to the offense when he carries the ball and while Iosefa is a better pass blocker, Jackson is better carrying the ball.

  214. Buffoman November 7, 2011 1:36 pm

    #209 It’s hard to forget as those losses told us that we had a ways to go before we could play with the upper level of the mid majors (BSU is a mid major or have they ascended to the “major” level?).

    So, going into this year there was that anticipated improvements as this was year 4 and we would be re-loading (not re-building). The thinking was that’s enough time to prepare at each level so one builds on a foundation.

    Then we loose to UNLV, huh? Okay, hiccup. Win against UC Davis.

    Loose again to SJSU, burp..acid reflux starting to act up.

    Barely win, but win none the less against Idaho. Can still have that funny taste but swallowing okay.

    Loose to USU after having a 21 point lead, giving up 28 in the second half.

    I think you know what folks were thinking was coming next. Then Ferd stated what was on many people’s tip of the tongue.

    Yes, I think it’s the remembering that has many wondering about the direction at this time.

  215. Couch potato November 7, 2011 1:39 pm

    lots of passion in the blog the past couple of days.

    no worry, sooner or later the talk will return to conference alignments.


  216. JIN November 7, 2011 1:44 pm

    Can someone tell me why the offensive coach kept calling for the long pass. Moniz cannot make the long throw. He always overshoots the players or when it is perfect, the receiver drops the pass. Why not stick with the medium or short passes???

  217. Kevin November 7, 2011 1:45 pm

    I think this blog is the barometer of tolerance compared to others. Whether or not it’s correct in a non-partisan view is subject to interpretation and criticism, but just like any instrument that monitors the weather, when things shift from one area of the gauge to another, you cannot hide the fact that you need to grab an umbrella.

    I remember those calling for Coach Mack’s firing in years one and two and for me and the majority of others and to us that was uncalled for. Regardless of what I feel NOW, I still do NOT regret defending Mack after only two years in this program. Now we are in year four.

    Did I personally expect another WAC title, yes. I didn’t think it was a lock, but it was possible. Did I expect and undefeated year??? Hell no.

    I was VERY put off by our performance in the Hawaii Bowl and from there started having serious doubts about Coach Mack carrying this program into the MWC and beyond… everything after solidified such concerns.

    With a history of consistent inconsistencies, the time is now. The urgency to win changed a year ago as did the college landscape of athletics.

  218. Kevin November 7, 2011 1:47 pm

    Side note….

    For anyone wondering. I personally like the potential of UH softball this year. 😎 And no, Im not saying undefeated or pushing 160 home runs….

    Ok, back to the topic at hand.

  219. Slugger November 7, 2011 1:55 pm

    Hope Mo is ok. Prayers.

  220. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 1:57 pm

    On going for it on 4th and 3 in the 1st Quarter instead of a FG from what amounts to a glorified PAT.

    Coach Tuioti said that it is Mack’s call on those kinds of plays.

    One of those “if you make it you are a genius, if you don’t you are stupid”.

    I report, you decide. mwahaha. 😛

  221. Kevin November 7, 2011 2:01 pm

    I remember that play. Before hand I wanted the FG.

    Argued with a friend that the passing game looked off at the time and you go with the groove and while the kicking game has been down all year, recently in Idaho, the kicking game came thru for us so go with that.

  222. Slugger November 7, 2011 2:03 pm

    PolyMom, hope your ohana is ok.

  223. Jeezy33 November 7, 2011 2:03 pm

    I think it is true that Mack has lost his fans.

    After losses how he addresses the media like don’t listen to what people say about our team. They don’t know what’s going on and what were going through with injuries. It’s not his job to worry about the fans yet everytime he is on the air, he brings up the fans..

    Fans just don’t wanna hear excuses and he is slowly losing faith in a lot which shows in attendance and based on their reactions on message boards..

    It’s always someone or something wrong to why we can’t do better

  224. LizKauai November 7, 2011 2:04 pm

    Three Questions

    a short story by Leo Tolstoy

    From “Twenty-three Tales “published around 1872. This version, translated by L. and A. Maude.

    and published by Funk & Wagnalls Company, New York, 1907.

    IT once occurred to a certain king, that if he always knew the right time to begin everything; if he knew who were the right people to listen to, and whom to avoid, and, above all, if he always knew what was the most important thing to do, he would never fail in anything he might undertake.

    And this thought having occurred to him, he had it proclaimed throughout his kingdom that he would give a great reward to any one who would teach him what was the right time for every action, and who were the most necessary people, and how he might know what was the most important thing to do.

    And learned men came to the King, but they all answered his questions differently.

    In reply to the first question, some said that to know the right time for every action, one must draw up in advance, a table of days, months and years, and must live strictly according to it. Only thus, said they, could everything be done at its proper time. Others declared that it was impossible to decide beforehand the right time for every action; but that, not letting oneself be absorbed in idle pastimes, one should always attend to all that was going on, and then do what was most needful. Others, again, said that however attentive the King might be to what was going on, it was impossible for one man to decide correctly the right time for every action, but that he should have a Council of wise men, who would help him to fix the proper time for everything.

    But then again others said there were some things which could not wait to be laid before a Council, but about which one had at once to decide whether to undertake them or not. But in order to decide that one must know beforehand what was going to happen. It is only magicians who know that; and, therefore in order to know the right time for every action, one must consult magicians.

    Equally various were the answers to the second question. Some said, the people the King most needed were his councillors; others, the priests; others, the doctors; while some said the warriors were the most necessary.

    To the third question, as to what was the most important occupation: some replied that the most important thing in the world was science. Others said it was skill in warfare; and others, again, that it was religious worship.

    All the answers being different, the King agreed with none of them, and gave the reward to none. But still wishing to find the right answers to his questions, he decided to consult a hermit, widely renowned for his wisdom.

    The hermit lived in a wood which he never quitted and he received none but common folk. So the King put on simple clothes, and before reaching the hermit’s cell dismounted from his horse, and, leaving his bodyguard behind, went on alone.

    When the King approached, the hermit was digging the ground in front of his hut. Seeing the King, he greeted him and went on digging. The hermit was frail and weak, and each time he stuck his spade into the ground and turned a little earth, he breathed heavily.

    The King went up to him and said: ‘I have come to you, wise hermit, to ask you to answer three questions: How can I learn to do the right thing at the right time? Who are the people I most need, and to whom should I, therefore, pay more attention than to the rest? And, what affairs are the most important and need my first attention?’ The hermit listened to the King, but answered nothing. He just spat on his hand and recommenced digging.

    ‘You are tired,’ said the King, ‘let me take the spade and work awhile for you.’

    ‘Thanks!’ said the hermit, and, giving the spade to the King, he sat down on the ground.

    When he had dug two beds, the King stopped and repeated his questions. The hermit again gave no answer, but rose, stretched out his hand for the spade, and said:

    ‘Now rest awhile — and let me work a bit.’

    But the King did not give him the spade, and continued to dig. One hour passed, and another. The sun began to sink behind the trees, and the King at last stuck the spade into the ground, and said:

    ‘I came to you, wise man, for an answer to my questions. If you can give me none, tell me so, and I will return home.’

    ‘Here comes some one running,’ said the hermit, ‘let us see who it is.’

    The King turned round, and saw a bearded man come running out of the wood. The man held his hands pressed against his stomach, and blood was flowing from under them. When he reached the King, he fell fainting on the ground moaning feebly. The King and the hermit unfastened the man’s clothing. There was a large wound in his stomach. The King washed it as best he could, and bandaged it with his handkerchief and with a towel the hermit had. But the blood would not stop flowing, and the King again and again removed the bandage soaked with warm blood, and washed and rebandaged the wound. When at last the blood ceased flowing, the man revived and asked for something to drink. The King brought fresh water and gave it to him. Meanwhile the sun had set, and it had become cool. So the King, with the hermit’s help, carried the wounded man into the hut and laid him on the bed. Lying on the bed the man closed his eyes and was quiet; but the King was so tired with his walk and with the work he had done, that he crouched down on the threshold, and also fell asleep — so soundly that he slept all through the short summer night. When he awoke in the morning, it was long before he could remember where he was, or who was the strange bearded man lying on the bed and gazing intently at him with shining eyes.

    ‘Forgive me!’ said the bearded man in a weak voice, when he saw that the King was awake and was looking at him.

    ‘I do not know you, and have nothing to forgive you for,’ said the King.

    ‘You do not know me, but I know you. I am that enemy of yours who swore to revenge himself on you, because you executed his brother and seized his property. I knew you had gone alone to see the hermit, and I resolved to kill you on your way back. But the day passed and you did not return. So I came out from my ambush to find you, and I came upon your bodyguard, and they recognized me, and wounded me. I escaped from them, but should have bled to death had you not dressed my wound. I wished to kill you, and you have saved my life. Now, if I live, and if you wish it, I will serve you as your most faithful slave, and will bid my sons do the same. Forgive me!’

    The King was very glad to have made peace with his enemy so easily, and to have gained him for a friend, and he not only forgave him, but said he would send his servants and his own physician to attend him, and promised to restore his property.

    Having taken leave of the wounded man, the King went out into the porch and looked around for the hermit. Before going away he wished once more to beg an answer to the questions he had put. The hermit was outside, on his knees, sowing seeds in the beds that had been dug the day before.

    The King approached him, and said:

    ‘For the last time, I pray you to answer my questions, wise man.’

    ‘You have already been answered!’ said the hermit still crouching on his thin legs, and looking up at the King, who stood before him.

    ‘How answered? What do you mean?’ asked the King.

    ‘Do you not see,’ replied the hermit. ‘If you had not pitied my weakness yesterday, and had not dug these beds for me, but had gone your way, that man would have attacked you, and you would have repented of not having stayed with me. So the most important time was when you were digging the beds; and I was the most important man; and to do me good was your most important business. Afterwards, when that man ran to us, the most important time was when you were attending to him, for if you had not bound up his wounds he would have died without having made peace with you. So he was the most important man, and what you did for him was your most important business.

    Remember then: there is only one time that is important — Now! It is the most important time because it is the only time when we have any power. The most necessary man is he with whom you are, for no man knows whether he will ever have dealings with any one else: and the most important affair is, to do him good, because for that purpose alone was man sent into this life!’

  225. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:06 pm


    Please tell me that was cut and pasted.

  226. Pride. November 7, 2011 2:08 pm

    I believe that the Warriors have played a few brilliant quarters of football this year. We should trying playing games a quarter at a time. Focus and concentrate only on the quarter at hand. We’ve got the possibility of fives games coming up. String together 20 more brilliant quarters and we may end up 10 and 4 with the Mustangs flying back to Dallas with their tails between their legs.

    I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe.

  227. Pride. November 7, 2011 2:10 pm

    Bleed Green!

  228. al_kiQaida November 7, 2011 2:13 pm

    @133 OD…totally agree. Why use an 85-90% Pollard for Nevada and then get him 100% injured for Fresno? Hold him back even if he wants to play busted up.

  229. d1shima November 7, 2011 2:14 pm

    We also have another problem, Mo (Bryant Moniz) is at the doctor right now and so is Richard Torres.

    Wat kine Doctor?

  230. Slugger November 7, 2011 2:15 pm

    Nice parable, LizK.


    You forgot something…Coach Tony siad that the defense was behind Coach Mack’s decision. I think he said that Vaughn told the Coach that they had his back. It’s the team believing in their coach and themselves.

    I liked Tuioti’s use of a boxing match to explain to the team that they need to make the effort to win each round. Can’t be complacent. Gotta strive to win it all the way to the end.

  231. d1shima November 7, 2011 2:16 pm

    We aren’t going to take anybody off redshirt, we have four games left so we aren’t going to take anybody off redshirt. It’s too close now. When you have a chance to play half the season that’s one thing, but it’s too close now (to the end of the season). So we aren’t going to take anyone off. We are going to keep the slots as they are. We may move David Graves out there to receiver. He played (wide) receiver in high school and we always thought about that, but were never in this situation.

  232. WarriorMojo November 7, 2011 2:16 pm

    Just off the top of my head, it would seem that a college head football coach needs to have or to excel in the following:

    Leadership – the ability to steer the team in the right direction and to provide stability when misfortune occurs, year in and year out. Includes the ability to develop good assistants and the willingness to delegate authority.

    Tactical insight – the ability to prepare an effective game plan and to anticipate the opponent’s attack, game in and game out.

    Game management – the ability to make decisions during the heat of battle.

    Recruiting – the ability to attract recruits WITH talent, WITH good grades, and WITH good personal attributes on and off the field and THEN get them to graduate.

    Political awareness/Image management – the ability to create positive public perception of the team AND to fund raise.

    Won/loss record – self-explanatory.

    Personally, I’m of the view that ALL of these things matter and that they have approximately equal importance. I’m sure some people believe only the Ws/Ls matter, the bottom line. I’d honestly like to see how others on this blog feel about this — whether you call yourself a Tsaiko or not. Any thoughts?

  233. Couch potato November 7, 2011 2:17 pm

    disappointing to see a small turnout, especially for military appreciation night.

    disappointing to see a helicopter do a very late flyby.

    disappointing to see uh students dressed as empty seats.

    though they have a right it was disappointing to hear the boos.

    disappointing to see a lack of respect for the schools alma mater by some players and coaches.

    disappointing to read the excuses again.

    usu did what they did for 4 quarters, that’s how it is in games, sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. uh should know in their squeaker at idaho.

  234. d1shima November 7, 2011 2:17 pm

    On why Joe Avery hasn’t played much at wide receiver…

    He just needs to catch the football better. Hopefully, added responsibility will help him do it. He is a great kid, fast, knows the offense. He just hasn’t been consistent in catching the football and there have been guys that are better than him. But he knows it all. He’s smart and he’s got everything so he might get his chance.

    Next man up!

  235. Enough Already November 7, 2011 2:18 pm

    Coach Mack needs to be replaced now! Sitting in the stands this past Saturday was painful. Mack is like a hemmroid that won’t go away!

    Coach can make all the excuses he wants: injuries, play execution, motivation, whatever! Plain and simple, no opponent should successfully run two fake punt plays against you! Just inexcusable! You have a former Pac-10 head coach running special teams and he couldn’t see this! Another former head coach (Mouse) at the pro/collegiate level with 40+ years of coaching experience. Geez, just look at the punters number and you could’ve figured out this was a fake! Call a time out for pete’s sake if you’re not prepared. Mack and Tomey looked bewildered talking to each other on the sidelines.

    Aggies coaching staff had the balls to run this play twice against Mack! What an insult to UH! Reminds you of the movie “Water Boy” when the opposing coach taunts Henry Wrinkler, nannie nannie boo boo!

  236. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:20 pm


    You are right. The players also were calling for the coaches to call for the goings on 4th.

    And in the spirit of those “if you can’t do it yourself, you shouldn’t complain” arguments, the coaches listened.

  237. LizKauai November 7, 2011 2:23 pm

    Hateme- yes, cut and paste. :mrgreen:

  238. tom mui November 7, 2011 2:24 pm

    After reading and re-reading all the messages during the last two days, and after seeing all the calls for pitchfolks, torches, tar and feathers, nooses, with some people trying to hold the lynch mobs back, perhaps we should call it quits since most of it is a lot of sound and fury and get to less serious matters such as Iraq, the economy, Afghanistan …

  239. LizKauai November 7, 2011 2:24 pm

    Eyes closed while facing Manoa chanting, “only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, only gotta win two, ea, ea.”

    I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe, I believe.

  240. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:25 pm


    Thank goodness. If not the pho would be too cold to eat by the time you were done. 😛

  241. SacMacNWac November 7, 2011 2:25 pm

    Have faith Warrior fans! It ain’t over till the fat lady sings!

  242. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:26 pm


    We gotta multitask.

    If koakane can throw back green bottles, cook a steak, and post on FB all the while making trouble to the wahines in the student section, we can handle this fine.

  243. Enough Already November 7, 2011 2:27 pm


    She’s starting to warm up! But not fast enough for Coach Mack.

  244. postmanke November 7, 2011 2:29 pm

    why not Joe Avery? just find a damn way to get him in the game.

    4-0 no matter what!

  245. Couch potato November 7, 2011 2:29 pm

    roseanne barr lost weight right?

  246. HawaiiMongoose November 7, 2011 2:34 pm

    I’m not sure I agree with Mack about not burning any more redshirts, but I give him credit for being decisive about it, especially when doing the opposite — opting for a short-term benefit at the expense of the team’s long-term interests — could help him keep his job.

  247. Momona Wahine November 7, 2011 2:34 pm

    mi mi mi mi mi mi mi

  248. odzysk danych Bydgoszcz November 7, 2011 2:37 pm

    Hi all welcome, finally I found an interesting blog entries. Thank you and greetings to all

  249. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:38 pm

    I don’t think scoring 3 points in the 2nd half was part of the problem. I think it was the problem.

    I mean I don’t want to go all John Madden here but if you score more points than you opponents, you most likely win the ball game.

  250. palolo November 7, 2011 2:40 pm

    Just put in Shane Austin already. We need new life on this team. Move Mo to slot. He loves to take off and run, do it after getting a pass fron Austin. We cannot fire coach Mack, we need him, we just need a better special teams coach.

  251. Garret November 7, 2011 2:44 pm

    I thought that Bolla should have been fired earlier, but I understand UH wanting to document everything so they didn’t have to pay him a buyout. I didn’t want him to get a penny more than UH had to give him.

    I thought that Von Appen should have been fired earlier (before the season ended) and maybe the search could have started earlier. However, I don’t know who on the staff could/should have taken over in the interim…and UH ended up with JJ so it is hard for me to complain about how UH went about things.

    I thought that Nash could have been let go earlier if he hadn’t had such strong ties with UH…but given his history I think that UH let him go at the right time. Also, he had been handicapped by HF’s slow hiring process that cost him some recruits, so HF basically doomed him to fail in the short-term.

    UH is bleeding money right now, UHAD is squeezed by its budget, and I don’t see anyone stepping forward with payoff for the 1.5 years left on Mack’s contract. I also don’t see the season being “saved” by firing Mack now and putting someone in as interim coach. If UH was going to fire Mack, they should have done it awhile back as ST hinted…at this point I don’t see the benefit of firing him. I can’t see an interim coach winning any extra games at this point or winning recruiting battles…and UH’s hiring process is so slow that a new coach probably wouldn’t be hired until it was too late in this recruiting season anyway.

  252. Kevin November 7, 2011 2:45 pm

    In retrospect, a TD instead of the FG and another TD in the second half would MAYBE been enough to suffocate the “fire” USU had.

  253. Garret November 7, 2011 2:47 pm

    If the problem at WR is that the QB/WR chemistry isn’t there, what type of chemistry does Graves have at slot with any QB?

    If UH is looking towards the future, Graves should get snaps at QB. Graves is apparently the #2 QB (posted by ST and evident in the QB rotation), so why move your #2 QB to receiver when your #1 QB could be injured at any time. Plus, Moniz went to the doctor today so why move Graves from QB?

  254. Kevin November 7, 2011 2:48 pm

    Firing Coach Mack a while back??? When? Earlier this season??? Last season? (I DON’T THINK SO) 2009? His second season? Not fair in my book. First season??? Also, an unwise decision.

    I just cannot see how wise it would have been to fire Mack prior to this season at all.

  255. Garret November 7, 2011 2:48 pm

    BYU officials confirmed that they have been talking with the Big East. That is more than they would do regarding the Big 12 until really late in the process.

    However, neither Holmoe nor Samuelson would comment regarding their head coach’s revelation on Monday, an athletic department spokesman said.

    “No, [there’s] nothing more to say other than we’ve had some conversations with the Big East,” said Duff Tittle, BYU’s associate athletic director for communications.

  256. Kevin November 7, 2011 2:49 pm


    November 7th, 2011 at 2:47 pm

    If the problem at WR is that the QB/WR chemistry isn’t there, what type of chemistry does Graves have at slot with any QB?

    If UH is looking towards the future, Graves should get snaps at QB. Graves is apparently the #2 QB (posted by ST and evident in the QB rotation), so why move your #2 QB to receiver when your #1 QB could be injured at any time. Plus, Moniz went to the doctor today so why move Graves from QB?

    EXACTLY… at this point who the hell knows anymore???

  257. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:50 pm

    Holmoe Homoe hes our man, if he can’t do it now one can!

  258. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:50 pm


  259. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 2:51 pm

    I might have missed this but who is advocating we put Graves at slot back?

  260. Garret November 7, 2011 2:53 pm


    Not before this season. But ST wrote several times fairly recently that UH should either buyout Mack or give him an extension…letting his contract run out is not a great choice.

    Earlier meaning 1 or 2 losses ago UH could have made a final decision on the extension. If they wanted to extend Mack they could have given Mack their number (ST said it was something like $700k/year), take it or leave it. Or if they decided against the extension (they clearly didn’t seem excited to have him back even before this season), they should have started their replacement search then. Waiting this late in the season, with that attendance number for USU, seems to indicate that UH is just going to let the contract run out.

  261. Garret November 7, 2011 2:54 pm

    Chris Petersen likes the idea of BYU being added to the Big East.

    Boise State football coach Chris Petersen said adding a Western partner was “a very smart move. I certainly wouldn’t have thought of. These guys are thinking of everything.”

    Petersen said there are “a few good candidates and BYU is one of those” to be the Broncos’ partner in a potential move to the Big East.

  262. Couch potato November 7, 2011 2:54 pm

    Mack is the advocate.

  263. Garret November 7, 2011 2:55 pm

    The Albertson Foundation just gave $3 mil to BSU Athletics.

    The Board of Directors of the J.A. and Kathryn Albertson Foundation on Monday announced a $3 million grant to the Boise State University Foundation.

    The grant establishes a partnership between the foundation and Boise State athletics. Funding will be used to expand the football complex, create an academic center within the complex, and continue the foundation’s Go On awareness campaign in conjunction with Boise State athletics.

  264. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 2:55 pm

    sports illustrated today posted that they believe

    Hawaii would play Marshall (C-USA) in the Hawaii bowl

    and SMU would play BYU (C-USA) in the Armed Forces Bowl…

  265. Garret November 7, 2011 2:58 pm

    Albertson’s is the 2nd largest grocery chain in the US. The foundation was funded by the Albertson family and they give a LOT of money for education in Idaho…I wish that Hawaii had this kind of donor for UH and public schools. $35 mil/year for education is significant in a state with the population of Idaho.

    Kathryn remained active on the Foundation’s Board of Directors and, in 1997; she gave a generous gift of $660 million worth of Albertson’s Incorporated stock to the Foundation. This contribution propelled the Foundation’s yearly giving level from approximately $2.5 million to more than $35 million. Kathryn was a Director Emeritus on the Foundation’s Board of Directors until her passing in April, 2002. Today, Foundation giving remains earmarked for the improvement of education in Idaho.

  266. Couch potato November 7, 2011 2:58 pm

    with all the surprises happening this season i wouldn’t be surprised or unsurprised if the Warriors are playing or not playing in the Hawaii bowl. 😆

  267. Garret November 7, 2011 2:59 pm

    The MWC and CUSA are meeting today to discuss the alliance.

    The Mountain West and Conference USA have formed a football-only association, and the commissioners from both conferences, as well as legal and marketing advisors, will meet in Colorado Springs on Monday and Tuesday.

  268. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 3:01 pm

    If thats the case UH should get Oceanic to play the movie “We Are Marshall” for a couple of weeks prior to the game.

    At least its SOMETHING and chicks dig Mcconaughey right?

    Anyway, it may sound like a not so interesting match up, but I personally wouldn’t mind seeing them play Marshall.

  269. Ed. November 7, 2011 3:01 pm

    Coach Mac said that graves might play at Slot

  270. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 3:02 pm


    We do. It’s called the Hawaii State Association of Taxpayers and Visitors.

  271. kev-1 November 7, 2011 3:04 pm

    #253 and #256 . . . THANK YOU!!! You have to do what is right for the team at this point. Moniz hasn’t been horrible, but something isn’t working. I don’t see how terrible it would be to try and breathe some life into the offense by giving Graves a shot with receivers that he probably has more reps with anyway. Look at what happened when USU’s backup QB was put in. Why would you move the future QB (that is what they have hinted he is) to receiver?

    I would really question that plan. And you can’t tell me that guys that are redshirting are going to be more prepared than guys that aren’t getting any playing time. We still have active guys on the roster that just don’t get put in the game.

    Either stick with Moniz and take the shoot out of the Run-and-shoot, or give the young gun a shot and give the kid meaningful time to see what he can do.

    SORRY Garret and Kevin . . . I started this post in agreement with your earlier post, but I may have strayed to a perspective you may not necessarily agree with.

  272. d1shima November 7, 2011 3:08 pm

    The Board of Directors of the J.A. and Kathryn Albertson Foundation on Monday announced a $3 million grant to the Boise State University Foundation.

    That does it…I’m doing my grocery shopping at Roth’s!

  273. 808bowler November 7, 2011 3:09 pm

    We are not capable of reloading. being here in fda islands is very hard to do. It took salas and pilares two to three years to get it. Yes I had hopes like yours too before the season and yes we did have bad losSes too. I do believe our assistant coaches are struggling. Esp rolo with playcalling. rolo needs to tailer da offense to da talent he got. Idk……….

  274. Couch potato November 7, 2011 3:09 pm

    maybe the problem is not moniz. it seems teams are confident in playing man up against the Warrior receivers. do the receivers lack the speed and moves to get separation from the defenders? putting graves at receiver would not make a difference since i don’t think he has the speed, quickness, and moves to gain separation off man coverage.

  275. madeinhawaii November 7, 2011 3:12 pm

    We can reload. But that doesn’t mean the the pistol won’t backfire, eh? 😉

    It is what it is. We got a lot of injured players. When was the last time that 11 of our original starting players on Offense started a game?

  276. Kevin November 7, 2011 3:12 pm

    Couch Potato,

    Check out the YAC this season. Should say enough.

  277. Couch potato November 7, 2011 3:13 pm

    but what do i know, i’m not the one directing practice or making calls on the field. life is much easier on a couch.

    in the meantime, heal-up.



  278. Couch potato November 7, 2011 3:14 pm

    Kevin, you no like do the YAC research for me? 😆

  279. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 3:15 pm

    Maybe Piggley Wiggley will help us…

    But that was back in Fate Yanagi days.

  280. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 3:29 pm

    Hey guys,

    I hate all the people counting the Nevada game as a loss already… Nevada has never defended the Run n Shoot well. See all Hawaii games and SMU game… Our run defense is the strength of our team. We don’t have a passing offense to really worry too much about…

    Don’t count our guys out of this game yet folks…

  281. Enough Already November 7, 2011 3:32 pm

    Wonder if UH can take a capital loss deduction on Coach Mack? Loss on investment – $1.1 million!

  282. SacMacNWac November 7, 2011 3:39 pm

    Mac needs to take some tips from Ron Washington (Texas Rangers) in motivating his troops for the 2nd half of each game.

  283. Warriors1978 November 7, 2011 3:44 pm

    If Moniz can’t go and we want to win, Austin should play. He’s proven that we can win with him at QB.

    If we’re giving up on this year and looking to next year already, which I don’t think we should, then let Graves and Shutter play halves and let the cream rise to the top. At least the “Punahou Mafia” would make sure the stadium was not empty.

  284. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 3:51 pm


    That’s not a bad suggestion. Moniz is a good athlete. He could play slot, wideout or running back. It’s just a matter of taking your six best ball-handlers, and asking, Is Austin better than Joe Avery or Corey Paclebar. If Austin is, then Mo could move. But, anyway, kudos for an interesting idea (although I sense it was made out of frustration).

  285. 808bowler November 7, 2011 3:59 pm

    True dat 275……it is wat is. Never seen the offense in sync all year except for 1 game. Injury bug once again. Jus like 2 years ago.

  286. AlaWai November 7, 2011 4:11 pm

    There is a Mouse in the house! During all this curmudgeoning about our offense. Has anyone heard from the godfather of the R&S?

  287. Dan-O November 7, 2011 4:33 pm

    Hard to keep the Run and Shoot firing, when you missing bullets!!!! I agree with ST…need to put the BEST athletes on the field.

    Time for the coaching staff do earn their paycheck with a creative game plan for this week. It showed Saturday, that running the same plays with different personnel was NOT the answer.

    I think we need to see a more ball-control offense on Saturday. No matter how good the defense is…..if they are on the field for 75% of the time, they will tire…..give up big plays….and the score will get out of hand.

  288. 1sportsfan November 7, 2011 4:34 pm

    Read some comments about Moniz being average and not really that good. Moniz is good, maybe not great, because for greatness you’d like all the attributes like size. Moniz is providing a lot of stability for the team but it is a team sport so without top quality line and receivers, what do you expect? We are missing a big, quality go to receiver. Bright still hasn’t shown up. With smaller receivers, you know they can’t take the punishment over a long season. Moniz has provided an added dimension with his running that has produced Ws for the team. Last year, he didn’t have to run as much with the NFL caliber catchers he had. However, moving forward, if UH is hurting, the other teams must be too so it should even out. Its really the coaching staff to make the right calls.

  289. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 4:35 pm

    Mouse is “back in the lab, with a pen and a pad, trying to get this damn label off …”

  290. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 4:38 pm

    Back to the Future…?

  291. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 4:39 pm

    Well, to be more precise, Moniz is one of the top six, easily. And Moniz is better than Austin. The question, again, is Austin one of the top six? If he is, Moniz can move. If he isn’t, then Moniz should stay. Appreciate him or not, Moniz is the best quarterback in the WAC.

  292. Jeezy33 November 7, 2011 4:46 pm

    Only because all the other qbs are first year starters besides Faulkner which isn’t saying much…

    It’s almost like being the top qb in oia white..

    That dumb heisman campaign probably dis more damage than good giving this team way top high expectations…

  293. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 4:49 pm

    I know people are frustrated and mad and whatever. And I let people rant because I’m polite and a very nice person. But there is no doubt that Moniz is a very good quarterback. Is he a Heisman candidate? Of course not. Is he better than Colt? Probably not. But he’s up there with the best UH quarterbacks.

    So if people want to fire coaches or blow up the program or recreate what a wonderful fund-raiser they were, that’s fine. But people should appreciate the skill, dedication and commitment of an athlete who doesn’t come along very often.

  294. AlaWai November 7, 2011 4:52 pm

    IMHO, Mo is one of the best QB’s in the country. Given good receivers i.e. Salas, Pilares, Bradley and Pollard, he led us to a WAC championship. With Pollard he has some decent stats. Without Pollard, he ran to TDs and Ws. If he is healthy, he is #1. If his legs are healthy we will have a good chance at NEV. The long pass for a TD or long gain forces the CBs and S’s to drop in coverage and not overload zones. Maybe we need twin tree WRs Avery and Bright playing jumpball for those bombs.

  295. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 4:55 pm

    The Heisman campaign was stupid because nobody ever declared Moniz a candidate, not even himself. He’s actually a very humble, funny, competitive guy who works his ass off. He plays hurt, he doesn’t grumble, and he mans up and doesn’t hide after losses.

    The thing is, he has a real compelling story: Walk-on, worked as delivery guy and beachboy, ascended the charts, etc.

    Again, it’s OK to be mad at the system or the coaches, but let’s not lose perspective.

  296. Really November 7, 2011 5:02 pm

    Shane Austin– walk on from JJ era, Royce Pollard –walk on from JJ era, Clapp–walk on now these are great young men who represent us well and we’re proud of them. But the truth is our recruiting is very poor (look at cupboards of offensive line–empty) and has not gotten better under Mack it’s gotten worse. Get us a young recruiter head coach with energy and quit talking about all of these old re-treads. Let’s be real, we need athletes to win games and Im sick and tired of hearing about all of this “talent” and good recruiting under Grandpa Munster. You lose to UNLV, Utah State at home, and San Jose State and beat Idaho at the buzzer sorry but it aint just poor coaching (which is the biggest part of it) but it’s also a lack of horses.

  297. Buffoman November 7, 2011 5:12 pm

    I agree with ST on Moniz. He is a terrific QB. Don’t know about the receiving corp as I don’t believe they are as attuned to route running as the previous folks. Don’t know why, but it seems that way. Last year Moniz would scan the field and not do so much locking in on a receiver. This year he locks in a lot as he really cannot feel that the receiver will be where he believes that should be in the scheme of things.

    This has made him look not as good as he has in the past. But, he is a very good QB.

  298. Kekoa November 7, 2011 5:13 pm

    Much Mahalo to Pomai & James for even more contributions to the book drive. Tsaiko’s without borders sending Global signals.

    Betty Update: Lab scans looking good! Her positive change of position on the medical charts are very promising. BG passes on his thanks for the encouraging words & prayers from all of her Tsaiko ohana.

    Malama pono!

  299. WarriorNY November 7, 2011 5:19 pm


    If you do not see talent and potential in the players we have and the players Mack has recruited, you are not someone who should make those observations be known… Look at our young defense… Are you serious in saying those guys are not good “horses?” Top 20 in the nation in Sacks, Rushing Defense, and Interceptions…

    Recruiting is not the problem… The problem is our turnovers…

  300. RedZone November 7, 2011 5:33 pm

    I like Mo. I am happy we have him. What bothers me is that they have been saying how well he knows the offense. Why don’t they allow him to call audibles at the los? Let him call a series and see how it goes. They could script something and have him run it. would help to speed up things.

  301. maybe not November 7, 2011 5:41 pm

    Guess when they went 10-4 last season they didn’t play like a team????????????????????????????

    Try again.

  302. Pomai November 7, 2011 5:45 pm

    First I am not a coach, nor an expert on QB’s, but I would like to make one comment on Moniz. I have watched him at practice and during warm ups before the games. The one thing that I noticed is that he doesn’t wear his rib protector when doing so but of course he does during the games and as I understand that piece of equipment connects to his shoulder pads, so that brings to question if that affects his mechanics and could that be one reason his long balls are always off?

  303. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 5:48 pm

    Moniz is going to make mistakes. May hold on to the ball for a tad bit too long here and there.

    I stand by my argument that the O-line is one of the bigger problems on protection that ultimately goes to the O-line coach. Well, this and the inability of the receivers to get separation.

    Let it be known that if we had a less mobile QB, we would be suffering a lot worse this season.

    Moniz is not the BEST passer, but he is a great overall athlete that makes up his lack in arm strength and accuracy with being able to avoid the rush and pick up yards.

  304. Kevin November 7, 2011 5:52 pm


    Colt Brennan also used to keep his rib protector off during basic warm-ups. Greg Alexander and Brent Rausch also didn’t have their jacket/rib protector on during those early warm-ups sometimes as well.

    Quite a few QBs do that. Some more than others.

    The only thing I can compare it to, is like when I used to play hockey, I never wore my helmet for warm-ups. I hated it. Under 18 you are required to wear a helmet with a face mask. We tried to be like the NHL pro guys and having it off was the closest to not having a face mask.

    In that we often scrimmaged for fun WITHOUT helmets because our masks were attached to them because it was so much easier to play, but we were also used to wearing them anyway.

  305. Momona Wahine November 7, 2011 6:04 pm

    Rest in Peace Joe Frazier.

  306. d1shima November 7, 2011 6:06 pm

    RIP Smokin’ Joe Frazier.

    Mahalo for the memories.

  307. Buffoman November 7, 2011 6:07 pm

    #307 then that’s really too bad on a couple of fronts. If Moniz apologized and accepted the fact that he was wrong, those team emeber haters are placing self before team. But that’s human nautre for some and thats too bad. If the coach made decisions and did not bring complete team closure to the problem then he too has a problem with the concept of team and respect in the process of apology and acceptance, too bad again.

    So if you’re saying that the team is not functioning as a team, then the problem is bigger than just Moniz, the coach and a few members who still hold grudges, too bad.

    Yes and finally too bad for us who cheer them on as a team, when in fact it is not a team out there. Teams do not function well when individual issues that fester go unresolved and it seems that is what you are describing. Blame can be everywhere if what you describe is true.

  308. Pomai November 7, 2011 6:09 pm

    #304 – Kevin – my question still stands could it affect his mechanics?

  309. Pomai November 7, 2011 6:14 pm

    I hit the submit to early, because it is tied into the shoulder pads could that add any restriction to his throwing motion? Maybe he should try using it all the time for awhile and see if it does make a difference.

  310. Buffoman November 7, 2011 6:15 pm

    Sorry d1shima

    I thought it was #307 that stated “you should go talk to the team members”, or something like that regarding Moniz. And my apologies for the numerous tying errors.

  311. Hawaiianbod November 7, 2011 6:15 pm

    continued prayers for Betty.

    healing prayers for all the injured Warriors.

    RIP Joe Frazier.

  312. jeezy33 November 7, 2011 6:20 pm

    I’m not trying to knock Moniz in any way….

    I am simply blaming the media(not all), the coaches for hyping him up too much making people think we have Colt Brennan on our team.

    Mack is the one to blame definitely for all this mess. He in the end is in charge of recruiting and recruited this O line, WRs crops we currently have. He came up with this heisman campaign, said Moniz is better than Jeff Garcia and Colt Brennan, and so on.

    Same old excuses every week from Mack. He will say this week that we fixed our punt return problems only for the opposing coach to find a new hole in our defense this coming week.

    We lost to Idaho, San Jose, and UNLV because travel was too tough, we don’t have enough money.

    Now we lose to Utah St because we are battling injuries.

    whats next really? The reason we have 85 scholarship players is because players get injured a lot in football.

  313. Really? November 7, 2011 6:21 pm

    Warrior Ny, #299— Yes top “20” in sacks #9, rushing defense #26 (close), interceptions tied with 11 teams at #15 but also passing defense #78, SCORING DEFENSE #68 Pass efficiency defense #72, fumbles recovered tied with 17 schools at #36, tackles for loss #51, first downs #30 (solid), 3rd down conversion # 47, 4th down conversions (tied with 15 schools at #57), and red zone defense (tied with 6 schools at # 65) and total defense (#43)

    Not bad in some areas, below average in others and overall lacking horses. Especially in the secondary. Far from a big endorsement of our athletic ability and recruiting especially since we are playing the UNLVS., San Jose States, Idahos, Colorado and New Mexico States of the world. “Horses” would be ranked a bit higher in the worst conference in college football in all areas. We need much more aggressive and dynamic recruiting amongst a dozen other things.

  314. Kevin November 7, 2011 6:25 pm


    It’s not supposed to effect a QB’s performance. If it does, that’s really messed up because he can’t do anything about it. Its a part of the equipment and it’s existed for a while now.

    If for whatever reason the QB jacket IS the reason for it effecting his mechanics then simply playing with it more during warm ups won’t have an effect of improvement this far into his playing career.

    Besides protective equipment tends to hinder the body’s movement as opposed to mechanics and if that was the case, his long throws would be short as opposed to the ones he’s been throwing that have been too long and over the receivers.

    I think most would be inclined to agree its more of a timing issue with the wideouts and equipment has no bearing on timing.

  315. Kevin November 7, 2011 6:27 pm

    Also when equipment in any sport effects MECHANICS, it’s due to improper size or faulty use same when it hinders movement.

  316. A-House November 7, 2011 6:32 pm


    I like Smith’s in Vegas! better talk to Masaboy about shopping at Albertsons.

    4 games left and I hope that UH does not go into a “prevent defense mode” cause it has not worked for them this year. What’s wrong with sticking with the surging defense that is used most of the time?

    Also, they have to stop “playing not to lose”! Damn, I hate that because it always give your opponents the opportunity to come back and win.

    I hope that Rolo does a lot of tinkering to plays to use in a game. If short yardage for first down, what’s wrong with using a QB option to the “wide side” of the field? Running up the middle is a scared cow? must be used? works once, but clogged after that! It did for Turbin on his long run for a TD – right up the middle with no defenders to protect the center of the field. Except his was the opposite – clogged all the time except once and walla TD.

    Is it me or seems the UH does not make offensive changes after half? If same o, same o, the defense will feast on UH running the same plays in the 2nd half.

    a leader must take calcualted risks – if not, aiyah!

  317. wowlaulau November 7, 2011 6:32 pm

    wow, what a bunch of whiners!!!

  318. Da Punchbowl Kid November 7, 2011 6:39 pm

    #226 and #227 –

    Best posts of the day. Thank you big feller.

    #293 –

    The other best post of the day.

    People ARE frustrated and angry as they have a right to be, as I am too. But I still say its better for the team and the season if we wait until the season is pau before we start lobbing the nukes around. Ho’omanawanui, manawa manawa. I not saying anybody is wrong in their observations/emotions, but like the old saying goes, “too everything, there is a season”.

    Let the Warriors play and lets play nice until they are pau playing for the season.


  319. Hank November 7, 2011 6:47 pm

    #293 Stephen…it is surprising to me how many posters are disappointed in his play…but after he’s gone, I believe that there are many who will miss him (esp when those who take his place do not live up to expectations). I will be one of them.

  320. Kekoa November 7, 2011 6:50 pm

    Pomai ~

    I concur with Kevin about the harness issue. As far as his overthrow, it is his high release point imo. Same as a baseball pitcher.

    He can adjust by following thru to a more medium release. It could also be because he feels like he has to throw over the hands of his rushing linemen.

    I threw a few in my day, but was always da *Hail Mary* kine as i ran for may life! Bwahahaha!

  321. rasu whatever November 7, 2011 6:54 pm

    RIP Joe Frazier

    RIP Naruto Oyakata (TakaNoSato 59th Yokuzuna)

    Diabetics beware, 59yo, 6’1 over 400#s, lets all lose some weight

  322. funny November 7, 2011 7:02 pm

    I’m not about to scroll up and re-read through all of the threads to find the few that complain about his play but I don’t understand how anyone can say that Moniz’ performance is an issue.

  323. rasu whatever November 7, 2011 7:03 pm

    not sure how this works

    90 scholies and 15 walk ons

    we lose 3 receivers and now UH might play a QB at WR?

    are we THAT short at WR or are THAT short of talent at WR?

    either way, does not bode well for next year.

    same thing for OL, it will be another rebuilding year

  324. rasu whatever November 7, 2011 7:15 pm

    We all have to grow up and realize that Moniz is not Colt or even Timmy.

    He’s a great athlete and a decent QB for our style of offense.

    He does have his limitations, but he is the best we have and not a quitter.

    If Salas and Pilares were still here everybody would still be in love with the “pizza boy”

    but this year he has new (and so far) less productive receivers and a young (and bad) OL

    If Colt was the QB this year, he’d be flat on his back half the time

  325. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:24 pm

    Not to stir the pot, but….okay, I’m stirring the pot. Here’s an article that might be of interest to the upcoming game against Nevada this weekend.

  326. rasu whatever November 7, 2011 7:26 pm

    let me take that back, Colt did have a quicker release and better cognitive skills,

    but he still would have eaten more sacks than Mo.

  327. madeinhawaii November 7, 2011 7:30 pm

    I don’t think it’s quite 90 scholies.. more like 85 … or 83… I think we still haven’t got all of them back yet from the previous APR adjustments.

  328. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:34 pm

    Pretty sure its 85 scholies.

  329. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 7:34 pm

    Coaching Staff is unable to make game time adjustments!!! Utah State made defensive adjustments at halftime and UH didn’t counter with adjustments of their own.


    I don’t know any Division I Offensive Coordinators (that are not also the Head Coach) that is not in the booth! Division I or Pros!

    You have to see the field! Alignment is so important…you can’t see that from the field on the sidelines. I know that Coach Davis is in the booth, but Rolo is the OC calling the plays.

    I also understand that Rolo wants to feel the game and communicate with his QB, but sometimes an OC needs to detach himself from the sideline distractions and already be two or three play ahead with alternatives (this is CHESS NOT CHECKERS!!!).

    Bottom line is Rolo is a fairly new OC and there are reasons his predecessors are in the booth! His mentor Coach Jones may have been an exception with seeing the field from the sidelines….or maybe he would be in the booth too if he wasn’t also the Head Coach!

    ST – Are there any OC on sidelines that isn’t also the Head Coach???

  330. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:34 pm

    Mo can take a hit better than Colt. However, Colt was a more accurate passer.

  331. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:40 pm

    “You can’t blame Hawaii coach Greg McMackin for bringing it up a couple times during the teleconference today. He kept saying he didn’t want to use it as an excuse, but the facts are the facts. The Warriors are beat up.”

    The Pack is doing their homework.

  332. Shoko November 7, 2011 7:41 pm

    Okay, have a nice night. I going schleep now.

  333. cocobean November 7, 2011 7:43 pm

    Graves as wide out? He has decent size and speed for the position. He understands the play book from a QB’s perspective and should be familiar with the role each reciever has in a given play.

    What he lacks is all the fine skills receivers learn through coaching, practice and repitition. He’ll need a crash course on this.

    If MO can’t go I feel Austin is the best next man up.

    I have a gut feeling Rolo is planning to use two RBs at the same time in certain situations.

    I expect a valiant effort from everyone. The O, the D and the S-teams will leave it all on the field. They’ll play this game for each other. They’ll play for their coaches. Us fans are the last thing on their minds.

  334. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 7:52 pm

    I think we’ve won some games because of Moniz and don’t believe we’d have a winning record at this point without him at the helm.

    The Offensive Line was in question from the start of the season and were overrated after the Colorado game because of Moniz’s scrambling and running ability. NOTE: This was before the injuries…now the O-Line is fielding by players who were not good enough to beat out the 1st game starters.

    Moniz’s mechanics have been off because I think Moniz’s lack of confidence in the O-Line. Moniz doesn’t step into his throws at times, which causes the ball to sail, be a little behind, or not have as much velocity to allow the receivers to run after the catch. In addition, he may release the ball (often throwing the deep fade) when he sees a blitz is coming and he doesn’t think it will get picked up. When Moniz has been able to step into his throws (like against UC Davis because of the lack of competition facing the O-Line) he’s looked unstoppable and was able to look to his 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th option or go back.

    Also, the Receivers haven’t been running the correct routes or re-routing there is a blitz or when Moniz is in trouble. Hard for any QB to not know how much protection he’ll get or where to look downfield when the receiver isn’t on the same page. NOTE: I don’t believe Moniz is as good as Colt…but, very very very close if given the same talent and knowledgeable receivers and O-Line (which was also overrated, but far better than anything we’ve had since) Colt had around him.

    In addition, the other receivers don’t block for each other like Pollard, Ostrowski, and Clapp.

  335. Derek November 7, 2011 7:55 pm

    Duane Akina is a Punahou alum right? He’s a long time asst. coach at Arizona and Texas, under Dick Tomey and Mack Brown. He got his degre and played QB at Washington. Does he want to be a head coach at possibly at Hawaii? Is there a Punahou Mafia there? Who knows. But please, not John L. Smith, former Michigan State Head Coach.

    Sad to learn of Smokin Joe Frazier’s passing. So strong, yet so vulnerable. We all have to go sometime when we are called by the good Lord.

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  339. tom mui November 7, 2011 8:22 pm

    While I still think we should give the USU game and its results a rest – get over it – I got to say that Moniz is one terrific QB. And instead of grousing, lets back up the Warriors. I appreciate their efforts and their spirit.

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  342. kev-1 November 7, 2011 8:42 pm

    Update on Moniz’s doctor visit: Nothing to worry about, he just went to get his “finish” tattoo removed from his finger.

    WHOA!!!!!!!!! JUST JOKING GUYS!!!!!!!!! Go easy.

    To add to the Moniz commentary. I have commented more than a few times that he is good but not great, especially when people try to compare him to Colt. Now, reading these posts, I think I have found new perspective. If you look at Moniz the QB as a whole and not Moniz the passer, it tells a different story. Moniz is a better QB than a passer. He is athletic, tough, knows the offense, and has good arm strength.

    However, a pure passer Moniz is not. It takes him far too long to settle in to his game, has no long ball (not distance, I mean accuracy), and over throws his receivers too often. I can see why people are in love with his story, afterall it is remarkable. But great QB’s carry their teams, and that just has not happened this year. The leadership isn’t there. Maybe that is just the laid back persona, but it is evident nonetheless.

    Again . . . my opinion only, not trying to offend.

  343. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 9:01 pm

    Moniz’s spin out of trouble and Ostrowski’s spin catch and trot to

    a touch down was a thing of beauty. We’ve got a GREAT quarterback!

    Hope our special teams coach opens his eyes in Reno and looks out

    for fake punts and onside kicks. Coach Mac said he forbade his

    players and coaches from looking at forums such as this.

    Nevada may not use trick plays but…

    I support coach Mac but not his special teams coach…

  344. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 9:01 pm

    Loved the Tattoo comment!!!

    I agree with your assessment of Moniz… His laid back persona is great for a pitcher in baseball, who can shake off a HR, but he isn’t the inspirational or motivational leader a Tim Tebow was for his team. He does have similar athletic tools to Tebow, but is a lot more accurate.

  345. Pride. November 7, 2011 9:04 pm

    Moniz is one hell of a quarterback. Nuff Sed. There are problems in Manoa. Look elsewhere.

  346. Pride. November 7, 2011 9:05 pm

    #344 – You are supporting the wrong guy. Just my opinion. I could be wrong.

  347. Ipu Man November 7, 2011 9:08 pm

    Pride, you may be right, but two fake punts…could they have

    been the deciding factor in the lost?

  348. kev-1 November 7, 2011 9:15 pm

    Not to mention going for it on 4th down instead of taking a short field goal. I know we have had kicking issues, but you don’t pass up points when you are that close.

    But what do I know, I’m just a retired, 4-time NCAA champion football coach. Damn it, you mean Madden doesn’t count? Nevermind then.

  349. izzy November 7, 2011 9:28 pm

    To all the Rookie Tsaikos making their first-ever roadtrip in support of the Warrior team:

    This is just a reminder that MANY of the veteran Tsaikos making the trip are TRAINED PROFESSIONALS with years of experience. An “All You Can Eat” buffet is not, I repeat, NOT an “Eat All You Can” Buffet.


  350. izzy November 7, 2011 9:31 pm

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  351. UH is bullies November 7, 2011 9:32 pm

    Good for UH. They are overrated and stuffed down all of the local sports fans sports as “Hawaii’s team”. The fact of the matter is that there are plenty of sports fans in Hawaii who don’t care to support UH, the media (UH graduates and hangers on) and Aloha Stadium because of that fact. It’s too bad that the Legislature can’t see the idea of making UH Hilo a “State University” and then having more balanced athletic competition in the State. This would get rid of the “entitlement” attitude that UH so readily grasps and flaunts. It really is a comment on UH and their supporters of how bad they are, but yet push themselves on the community. Good for them……losers!

  352. Pride. November 7, 2011 9:43 pm

    #348 – Ipu Man, I’m just playing. Yes you are right. Most coaches as you know warn their players before they go out, to watch for the fake. Sometimes, it doesn’t work out. Even when it happens twice. I was always taught, wins are on the players, losses are on the head coach.

  353. LizKauai (iPad) November 7, 2011 9:53 pm

    I hope everyone has a better day tomorrow.

    Yea for the Waimea Menehune.

    They lost a very good game with Kapaa today for the KIF champs.

    I think there are fewer than 30 on the team and at least 6 whose unis never get dirty…

    You do the math.

    They still played to the very last seconds and lost by a FG.

    God Bless and Keep Safe our young Warriors and their fans.

  354. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 9:55 pm

    Hard to concentrate of special teams when you gotta worry about so many other “things”.

  355. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 9:56 pm

    If people really want to vent, they should e-mail the coaches or attend practice. (And, judging from the time stamps on posts, many are available from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. to 6 p.m.) They can share their insights, tell the coaches where to stand during games, and, maybe show Moniz how to really pass.

    Or, better yet, if you choose to stay in the comfort of the shadows, e-mail me at Include your name and phone number. I’ll forward the information to the proper coach and player, and if he chooses, he can call you back to discuss your concerns. I think that will give people the proper outlet. Sound fair?

  356. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 9:57 pm

    I don’t want anyone being like ants.

  357. oldtimer808 November 7, 2011 10:02 pm

    I swore I wouldn’t read the blogs anymore but I admit to this one day of reading and #352 what a jerk. No you are a loser for your rotten attitude. The student/athletes devote so much time and energy as a college student. Those young men are winners for making the commitment to represent the University and the State of Hawaii and most of all their commitment to successfully complete their studies towards a degree.

  358. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 10:12 pm

    ST – In all fairness…stepping into your pass is basic fundamentals not created by me, but by Coaches far superior to anyone on this blog. Just an observation…

    As far as where to stand…

    Do you know any other OC that is on the sidelines and isn’t also the Head Coach? Fair question?!

  359. Slugger November 7, 2011 10:17 pm

    [Sorry, I didn’t read through everyone’s post up to this point…]

    Mo is a good QB and a humble one as ST has pointed out. Without a receiver like a 100% healthy Pollard in the game, he shouldn’t throw long ones like he did into double coverage. Royce may have a good chance at making those catches, but I don’t know about the receivers in the two plays I remember from the game. The short 5-8 yd. gains for a 1st down can move the ball down field. It’s a matter of having receivers who understand the routes, knowing the timing, having experience at practice with Mo. Joe Avery may not have the best hands, but he’s been in the system long enough to understand the routes. He’s fast enough to to go long and provide a “running tackle”. I love Jett, but he isn’t as consistent as, say, Miah. What about Breydan Torres-Keohokapu? Didn’t he play in some games early in the season?

    Just gotta win the next 4 games.


  360. Stephen Tsai November 7, 2011 10:17 pm


    Fire me an e-mail and I’ll relay it to Moniz and Rolovich.

  361. cocobean November 7, 2011 10:24 pm

    Why is Moniz the only player singled out by name for criticism? People may complain about the O line or receivers but rarely name names. I can understand when people get on the coaches but not when they get on a player.

    The same people who criticize Moniz often point out how a coach like Petersen can win with less. How about Moniz, he’s been able to post 5 W’s with less. When I say less I’m talking about the mounting injuries that started in training camp that’s only snowballed since. Moniz has never used that as an excuse.

  362. whitey November 7, 2011 10:24 pm

    ST, fair enough. My question: Why aren’t the other qbs given a chance to play when the first team qb is stuggling or cannot complete a first down in a quarter???

  363. Slugger November 7, 2011 10:26 pm

    Na Koa Mike,

    Did you put the explanation of the coverage on the two fake punts in your write-up of the Na Koa lunch? Coach Tony ‘splained today.

  364. enoughisenough November 7, 2011 10:26 pm

    PLEASE FIRE COACH MAC – how much more of this can we suffer through? The 22 starters on this team wouldn’t make our travel roster in 06 or 07 (except moniz). Thank you herman frazier for all you’ve done…

  365. kev-1 November 7, 2011 10:26 pm

    ST – I get where you are coming from. This is what sports fans do. They yell at players and coaches through the tv and then talk about it from the perspective of the arm chair QB. In my opinion, it is nothing but 2 cents. I comment my 2 cents for the sake of participating in a discussion and for fun. I like to crack jokes and yeah end up venting frustration as a fan too. But I am never delusional enough to think I know any better than a coach or even a player.

    Anything I say, or have said shouldn’t be taken as more than some random guys two cents. I sense your frustration with the frequency and can take the hint. This is your hale, and I respect that. I will tone down my 2 cents.

  366. UH is bullies November 7, 2011 10:28 pm

    Old timer, I’ll cut you some slack because you are correct about supposed UH student/athletes (arrested for fighting in Waikiki?). However, you miss the point, it is the UH administration, athletic department and corporate sponsors who are afraid to admit that UH is a bad investment when it comes to ethics and morals. The upper campus and lower campus (athletics) have no rapport. They are constantly prominently featured, when there are other more important local, and especially national sports news. You are like so many others who believe that local sports fans are indebted to UH. The fact of the matter, is that they owe the public a better quality product than they provide. UH is an overbloated entity about ready to implode! God bless the good student/athletes who represent such a reprenhensible entity.

  367. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 10:29 pm

    ST – Please refer to the beginning of post #335.

    I gave a lot of credit to Moniz and don’t blame him for not being able to step into his passes. With the protection he receives from his O-Line, I don’t know a QB who would, or would still be around at the end of the season. Just observing it wasn’t done at times and may be attributable to his interceptions and slow starts.

    I think the Coaches knew at the beginning of the season the O-Line may be questionable and experimented rolling Moniz out in he Colorado game, but have since gone away from that.

    ST – I read your blog and believe you’re normally extremely fair…yet unfair in not answering a fair question I posed about the OC being on the field.

  368. Kekoa November 7, 2011 10:30 pm

    …and down goes Frazier, one final time. RIP big man.

  369. funny November 7, 2011 10:33 pm

    @362 – only other player that I’ve seen singled out by name is a starting DB and he’s been called out a lot more often than Mo.

  370. Slugger November 7, 2011 10:35 pm


    Mahalo nui loa for taking treats to my friend in the Reno booth. Ken’s a good guy. Used to hang out with him like I do with the Tsaikos.

    Please take the sweaters you have and give them away to UH fans at the game. They could probably use another layer in the cold. Thanks.

    K, back to rewiring my electronics…latahs…

  371. whitey November 7, 2011 10:36 pm

    kekoa, you mean joltin joe has passed?? now, that is a fighter, neva quit and he gave his all in each and every one of his fights.

  372. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 10:41 pm


    It’s like Rose telling only half a story about “Uncle Gustav and his 3 legged cow in St. Olaf” and Dorothy clenching her teeth asking her to finish the story. Only to be disappointed that it still doesn’t make sense and is without a point.

    The difference here is that I don’t have to ask “what u mean” in order for us to finish filming the episode. thank god for that.

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  376. UH is bullies November 7, 2011 10:50 pm


    It’s ok, you’re showing your UH intellect and I don’t have to ask “what u mean”. Thank god for that. Perhaps one day you will see that there are others who have valid opionions on weakness.

  377. Lloyd November 7, 2011 10:52 pm

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  378. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 10:52 pm


    Yep. I is showing my UH intellect.

  379. cocobean November 7, 2011 10:54 pm

    Small island, news travels fast. Several weeks ago I was struck by a comment in an article about Chanteal Satele. She was talking about how it hasn’t been a smooth ride for her. She said some like “it’s hard when the whole state is mad at you when you’re playing bad.” I thought gee, she must read the VB blogs and comments on the news articles.

    Same must go for the FB players, their family and friends. They are aware of what is being said here and in comments to news articles. Some people’s 2 cents get too personal and some people’s 2 cents even if made in jest are hurting the feeling of more people than they realize. How would you feel if a young athlete you’re close to comes under the same type of harsh criticism.

  380. whitey November 7, 2011 10:55 pm

    University of Hawaii football coach Greg McMackin said that defense wasn’t the problem in the Warriors’ 35-31 loss to Utah State Saturday.

  381. Kekoa November 7, 2011 10:56 pm

    Goin2play ~ Agreed. Stepping into your pass is a good thing. Still, if you release high, the ball will sail on you. Again a pitcher is a better example of that. Even when he steps downward and follows thru, if the release is high…bye-bye!

    I’m a fan of these kids, period. I suffer along with them when they lose. I celebrate when they win. Everthing else around them is out of my control. So I leave it for those who have the authority to deal with it.

    Even the mechanics of a throwing motion is based on my own experience. (No wonda I nevah go Pro!)

    So relax everbody, it’s just a game.

  382. Kevin November 7, 2011 10:57 pm

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 7th, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    If people really want to vent, they should e-mail the coaches or attend practice. (And, judging from the time stamps on posts, many are available from 7 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 3:30 p.m. to 6 p.m.) They can share their insights, tell the coaches where to stand during games, and, maybe show Moniz how to really pass.

    Jesus Christ…. let some people do that and we’ll NEVER make that bowl game for sure.

  383. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 10:58 pm

    Hello Kevin.

  384. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:00 pm


    And some wonder why some want to go away without a doubt.

  385. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:00 pm


    I woke up because I forgot to take care of a few minor matters for this weekend and now I can’t go to sleep…

  386. whitey November 7, 2011 11:00 pm

    Part of our problem (is) we only scored three points in the second half,” McMackin said. “So, we couldn’t keep up with their scoring. We couldn’t answer back the scoring and I think that hurt us.”

    McMackin said the injury to Utah State starting quarterback Chuckie Keeton that resulted in the insertion of backup Adam Kennedy, “sort of flip flops your game plan because he (Kennedy) is a thrower and he made two great throws and they made great catches. We were sort of set up for the freshman (Keeton) who was a liitle more inaccurate (in) his passing game and this guy came in and really did a good job. He was obviously ready.”

  387. UH is bullies November 7, 2011 11:01 pm


    Gotta give you props. Anyone who quotes the Golden Girls on a UH Football blog, earns my respect. Keep smilin’….;-)

  388. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:02 pm

    google must be a tad bit slow tonight.

  389. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:03 pm


    Junk. I know the feeling.

    So softball recruiting. How is that going?

    Btw, did you ever find out if one conference adopts the COLA while the other doesn’t what will happen?

  390. cocobean November 7, 2011 11:04 pm


    How many times has Tank’s name been mentioned in the last month compared to Moniz? What was your constructive criticism of Tank?

  391. Kekoa November 7, 2011 11:04 pm

    Whitey ~ Rememba da ‘Thrilla in Manila?’ Whoa! Dat was THE fight. I listened to it on the radio! Yeah, liver cancer at age 67.

  392. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:08 pm


    Softball recruiting? Ummmm LOIs should be announced in a short amount of time for the 2012 class.

    Get the trip to Maui this Saturday vs UH Hilo. Just sent over some docs to get printed on email, was about to fall asleep when it just hit me. Takes only a day to print but the sooner the better.

    As far as the stipend deal if the MWC takes in and the BWC doesn’t, Donovan basically said if that was the case, long story short UH’s BWC teams will get the stipend for their schollie players.

  393. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:11 pm


    good to hear. would hate to seem them not get it over a dang technicality through no fault of their own. good thing title ix supersedes any conference “issues”.

  394. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:12 pm


    The signees for 2012 should yield TWO pitchers. One of which is a local product, I think most here know already who. The rest appear to be some more “corners”.

    Coach got some for 2013 as well. Hopefully it ends up being two more pitching/1st base candidates.

    Ricketts pau after this season, then Parnaby next year 2013, so yeah…. Plus 1st and 3rd are kinda shallow after this season as well with two seniors and two freshmen pegged at 3rd and two seniors, one freshman(maybe two depending), and one redshirt sophomore.

  395. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:12 pm


    Yeah the way Donovan talked about it, it seemed like he already was prepared for that anyway.

  396. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:17 pm

    I gotta admit i haven’t followed softball since my friend Kate graduated. She was such a great player. Those were the days, so much fun.

  397. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:22 pm

    Kate? Kate who? Get plenny. Off the top of my head one is an All-American, Kamehameha grad and the other had a fantastic four years at UH behind home plate…

  398. kev-1 November 7, 2011 11:22 pm

    So if I am understanding correctly, fans of unnamed sports teams (because I don’t want to “name”) who play a sport that is marketed as entertainment for the public, who pay ticket prices and/or pay-per-view fees are not allowed to comment on a player or team?

    If people like one QB over another, or one DB over another, or one coach over another, that is their choice. College football is not pop-warner. The amount of money that people spend to watch and enjoy college sports entitles them to express their views. Granted, the hostility of some of the criticism is unnecessary. And if someone gets their feelings hurt over something said in jest, then maybe they aren’t tough enough to be playing football anyway.

    Let sports fans be sports fans.

  399. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:23 pm


    u have the memory of an elephant. lol.

    kate r. of the kapaaaalama campus.

  400. Goin2Play November 7, 2011 11:25 pm

    Comments made on Moniz were meant to be positive with some constructiveness and observations included…I never said, nor believe we need to change to QB (see #335).

    I also never said get rid of the coaches or any other negatives despite my frustrations and dissapointment with what I believe should be obvious to professional coaches.

    Observations were that UH is slow to make adjustments! Suggestion was if the OC was in the booth, maybe he could see the field and or all his players to get the perspective to make the adjustments sooner rater than wait to see the tape and make adjustments for the next game! TOO LATE!!!

  401. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:25 pm


    HA! Well then GET YOUR ARSE BACK OUT HERE.!!! Her sister’s senior year ya know!

    Why the hell didn’t you mention you personally know her?

  402. create incentive November 7, 2011 11:27 pm

    Maybe the team should do the Haka for the fans after a win. Hopefully it would give the team more incentive to win and they would have a rallying point.

  403. Kevin November 7, 2011 11:27 pm


    Sportshawaii doing their usual 1st and 10 w/Jim Donovan TOMORROW at 11am.

  404. Bowwar November 7, 2011 11:30 pm

    For the negative whiners, email ST with your questions and “man-up” if you get a call from the coaching staff…

    4 more games remain & the team needs our support…so step-up or send your email.


  405. SteveM November 7, 2011 11:32 pm

    Nearing midnight when my self-imposed 48-hour football comment TIME OUT expires.

    I even saw what I was thinking posted twice by two different people. But it got flooded out by the same old same-o following every loss –so I guess a 3rd similar post by me wouldn’t have mattered anyway. So…

    New week and new game coming up…


  406. iwonderwhytheyhateme November 7, 2011 11:33 pm


    haven’t seen her in a while though since all that graduating and stuff going on. time to reconnect perhaps heh.

    yeah i gotta get out there to watch again. tad bit more fun than baseball for various reasons. 😛

  407. madeinhawaii November 7, 2011 11:35 pm

    Charleston Southern game should us what the RnS with Moniz is capable of as a passer when the Oline holds and the receivers can shed their defenders and get a step on them and be where they should be. Colorado showed us what Moniz is capable of doing as an option quarterback. Idaho and UNLV showed us what can go wrong.

    We simply do not have the enough well-trained personnel working with Moniz to get the job done, right now. I feel bad for our senior QB. I hope our injured can come back and really show us what they are capable of, if not by the end of this season, next season. I also hope that our depth problems get resolved with this year’s recruiting.

  408. madeinhawaii November 7, 2011 11:36 pm

    Oops .. Not Idaho and UNLV… but rather… SJSU, UNLV, and Utah State…

  409. NaKoaMike November 7, 2011 11:39 pm

    #364 – Slugger, I was not able to go to the lunch today and someone else wrote the article.

  410. whitey November 7, 2011 11:44 pm

    OK, sent ST my question from a negative whiner.

  411. kev-1 November 7, 2011 11:46 pm

    I’m just curious what some people think a coach would do to an idiot fan who thinks his input is valid enough to email it to the coach.

    I for one would never think I know better than a college football coach.

    However, I think it is pretty funny that someone would tell a “whiner” fan to “man up” if they get a call from a coach.

    I agree that the team needs support. I think people just kinda need to calm down a little bit and stop calling each other names. I get that many people are tired of the venting. Okay. But there are those that claim they aren’t venting that are making themselves sound just as bad as those they are telling to stop.

  412. whitey November 7, 2011 11:47 pm

    kekoa, that fight was probably one of the greatest fights and watching replays makes you realize why those two were the top dogs of their time.

  413. kev-1 November 7, 2011 11:48 pm

    btw . . . not calling anyone an idiot. I just mean that if I were to send an email to a coach, I would consider myself one.

  414. al November 7, 2011 11:53 pm


    November 7th, 2011 at 10:55 pm

    University of Hawaii football coach Greg McMackin said that defense wasn’t the problem in the Warriors’ 35-31 loss to Utah State Saturday.

    really? what game was he watching?

  415. J November 7, 2011 11:58 pm

    Budget cuts people. No need give your two cents when one will do or none needed. As the saying goes, “A penny for your thoughts.”

    I going be pake with mine. 😀

  416. papajoe2 November 8, 2011 12:00 am

    whitey, kekoa, I liked the 1st fight because both fighters were unbeaten. 3rd was good too, but both warriors was a little past their prime. 2nd fight was a farce as the referee let Ali get away with holding throughout the fight. He should have warned and taken away points if necessary, so that the 2 fighters could just duke it out.

  417. whitey November 8, 2011 12:01 am

    i guess now i am a negative whiner, idiot, and a bozo. not bad.

  418. kev-1 November 8, 2011 12:03 am

    whitey . . . i never meant you. hope u know that

  419. whitey November 8, 2011 12:04 am

    al, because i am an idiot (according to kev-1), i cannot answer your question about what game was mc watching. i probably was watching a replay of another game. hahahhahhaa

  420. niho mano November 8, 2011 12:05 am

    We need (2) more games to go to the Sheraton Bowl…That will be the battle cry!!!! Go wounded Warriors Imua…thats my (1) cent!!!

  421. whitey November 8, 2011 12:10 am

    al, the one thing that disturbs me about what coach mc is saying, is that when usu had a qb change, they didn’t know how to defense it. coach mc said “the insertion of backup Adam Kennedy, “sort of flip flops your game plan because he (Kennedy) is a thrower and he made two great throws and they made great catches. We were sort of set up for the freshman (Keeton) who was a liitle more inaccurate (in) his passing game and this guy came in and really did a good job. He was obviously ready.”

  422. kev-1 November 8, 2011 12:10 am

    ooooooooookay see 414

  423. Tiffani November 8, 2011 12:11 am

    thank you, this one help me alot.

  424. whitey November 8, 2011 12:13 am

    al, one more thing, no ask da kine hard question. hahahahahahaa

  425. whitey November 8, 2011 12:19 am

    kev-1, someday we may meet and you will know that when i post answers like that, i take it in jest and roll with it. life is too short to get bent out of shape.

  426. kev-1 November 8, 2011 12:24 am

    426 . . . right on! that’s what I was hoping.

  427. Goin2Play November 8, 2011 12:26 am


  428. al November 8, 2011 12:27 am

    never thought i’d ever say this…

    long ago, okay, long, long ago a new public high school emerged. they decided that they must have a football program.

    and so they did.

    everyone was new at it and everyone was green inspite of their red and white uniforms.

    those first couple of years they struggled and boy did they struggle.

    but somehow, one guy always kept them in the game. one guy who was the qb who was scrambling for dear life on every down. he either got hit or sacked on each play. but, he kept getting back up and kept em coming for more. he never complained. instead he kept his teammates from hanging their collective heads.

    he was the leader of this program. a great athlete that many were not aware of because of the losses and lack of success. he lead by example.

    but when it was there to be had…it was had. he was that good.

    bryant moniz is to this team what dave ota was to the kalani falcons way back when.

  429. al November 8, 2011 12:29 am

    whitey getting bashed. hahaha.

    at least he didn’t say you have b.o.

  430. al November 8, 2011 12:30 am

    whitey…i thought that real coaches prepare for two qb’s in case one goes down?

  431. al November 8, 2011 12:30 am

    422…but that is not an excuse.

  432. al November 8, 2011 12:32 am

    and whitey…how’s the lower main street mafia been lately?

  433. Goin2Play November 8, 2011 12:41 am

    Just another example of game time adjustments!

    Good Coaches will put in wrinkles because they know opposing coaches have scouted them. They also make game time adjustments on what they didn’t foresee prior to game time.

    Case in point…after getting an extra point blocked and then a field goal attempt blocked in the same game. UH was driving in the 4th qtr for, if with field goal position, could’ve been the winning field goal. UH never reached field goal position, but could’ve…

    After the game Coach Tomey was asked what was wrong with the extra point and field goal teams. Coach Tomey said, “I don’t know until I see the tape”. TOO LATE!!! If you couldn’t see what or where the problem was, then ASK YOUR PLAYERS and find out! Not after the tape, but during the game…so if we had gotten into field goal range, it wouldn’t get blocked again.

    The players have changed for UH over the years, but we still have the same problems with converting extra points…so what is the common denominator?

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