The big 3-0
UH announced that it received 30 applications for the vacant head coaching job for football.
At 4:30 p.m. today, the search-advisory committee convened for the first time. Through an arrangement between UH and HGEA, the union representing state workers, the committee was permitted to begin reviewing applications.
There is no timeline on hiring the next UH head coach for football.
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Greg McMackin, who reached a retirement agreement with UH last week, will be spending the next four weeks in Las Vegas, where he owns a second home. Travel arrangements were made shortly after the agreement was reached. He departed a couple of days ago.
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The next step in the search for McMackin’s successor begins this evening when the search-advisory committee meets for the first time. The six members may begin reviewing the applications after the end of today’s work day, although applications still will be accepted.
Number 1?
C’mon UH!
Today’s the big day with the committee convening! Hope they find that diamond in the rough.
I hope that request for students to be part of the committee doesn’t delay the overall hiring process.
Hi Ho:
#1
What’s under the UH Christmas tree at 4:30 today?
Boy oh boy – slow reaction!!!
ST: can you confirm/deny if reinbold applied for the HC position? I think he’d be the best fit not only for how ‘in touch’ he is with hawaii’s culture and people, but also because he’d be a seemless transition. he’d likely implement enough change without alienating too much of the existing systems.
and one more thing, lots has been made about hawaii’s failure to recruit O-line locally. overlooked is that there haven’t been a lot of O-line studs out of hawaii recently because like any other position, it is cyclical. you aren’t going to get studs every year, and the past few years hawaii’s best prospects have been LB’s, DE’s and QB’s. If i’m wrong, name a few O-line studs that went elsewhere because I can’t think of any the past few years.
It can get pretty lonely in Las Vegas.
Best wishes to the McMackins.
somehow, I don’t know if student input is merited. If there was an overflow of student support at games, yes, it would be terrific. But seeing that there appears to be a high level of disconnect, I am wondering what their participation in the process could benefit the outcome.
Buffoman…
It’ll give UH another reason to raise the athletic fee… 😉
morning and also waiting for some indications as to who is being considered
BUFFOMAN #8 – think it was one of those “political” things.
Actually putting Tsaikos on the committee have more merit as our interest is more so than the students – all 200plus students that showed up at the last game. Besides, I don’t know how ASUH would select the representative(s). (Sociology majors?)
Of course putting Tsaikos on the committee, say five of them, would probably result in six or seven different opinions!
MIH missed that one. Sounds plausible especially if the guy starts and keeps winning and students find some level of ownership.
i wonder how many unannounced candidates have applied?
you know those who are employed and wish not to reveal their identities for example…a dozen?
I’m curious as to what some people thought would happen when the coaching change was made.
Did they think there would be tons of donations pouring into the football program? Did they think Jon Gruden would say: Now’s my chance to apply.
UH made the move, largely, because it feared retaining the head coach would lead to a significant dropoff in season-ticket sales.
Now some would take the view that McMackin was owed $1.1 million next year, and with him leaving $500,000 on the table, that UH has a half-million savings.
The other view is that UH already has invested $600,000 (McMackin’s take) to the 2012 head coach before even deciding how much to pay that coach. If UH spends under $500,000 for a coach, then there is a savings from what it would have paid. If the salary is greater than $500,000, it would pay more for the position than it would if McMackin were still the head coach. (The savings would come in ensuing years, but not in 2012.)
It will be interesting to see what happens this week.
Today is a big day–I hope that the search-advisory committee finds applications from a lot of excellent candidates when they review the applications. I also hope that they are thorough AND fast, as UH needs to narrow down the list as soon as possible, start the interview process once they have the number of candidates narrowed down, and choose a quick before too much more of the recruiting season is over.
Feature article on Dick Tomey discussing his future.
http://tucsoncitizen.com/wildcatreport/2011/12/11/dick-tomey-unsure-of-coaching-future/
I’ve seen a post or two from people hoping that Utah State’s head coach would apply for the UH job. He’s about to sign an extension at Utah State and has declined many other jobs. His raise will take him from $375k to $415k in salary.
http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/sports/53094809-77/andersen-state-coach-season.html.csp
Anderson has a VERY good reason to not want to move his family out of Logan for some time.
All of us have a stake in the UH football program. The student fees are a pittance compared to the tax subsidies, government grants and athletic revenues generated by the university. I would like a say also, but this is the real world. The students are free to write a letter to Jim Donovan on their concerns just like the rest of us.
st…if the uhad is looking for a cheap sale, then, that’s what they’ll get.
black friday was over two weeks ago.
how much they are willing to spend is a key issue. i hope they don’t take the low road.
Better hurry.
14 New coaches hired and 3 or 4 more will be announced this week.
That means the hunt is on to hire or lock up 28 coordinators DCs and OCs– the guys we want to apply. Plus many more assistants.
Add to that that teams are locking up their coaches and coordinators with raises and contracts– Case in point, Gary Anderson of Utah State has a new 5 year contract– scratch him off the list.
We will be left with the leftovers.
Another example of why the Pac-12 doesn’t need UH for the Asian market. They already have a ton of links to Japan (Stanford having a campus there, research collaborations, etc.) and now their commissioner is going after China. Having the Pac-12 TV network in China would be a huge step for the Pac-12.
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/12/sports/pac-12-hopes-to-establish-presence-in-china.html?_r=1
I dont see a problem ay all with throwing a couple student athletes into the committee mix . Of all the committee peeps, I would love to hear the most what student athletes would have to say regarding a potential hire. It is the head coach that ultimately would have the strongest connect in their 4 or 5 years at the University. But thats where I think students can make the read. If they can connect with a coach, they’ll get the most out of a player. Not just X’s and O’s but in life as well. A student athlete will see this not as a 4 or 5 year relationship but a 30-40 years or beyond. And if a coach can recruit with that kind of connect, we’ve found our man.. or woman.
throw em in committee, it aint the ultimate deciding factor anyway… when small kid time, kind of like your mom asking what you thought of a babysitter. same thing.. JMO
Hiring a coach is relatively the same as recruiting a player.
If you recruit a local player, you can use the playing-in-front-of-family as one of the selling points. A mainland recruit would be interested in the direction of the program, and the ways their parents can follow them.
If you’re a coach who was raised in Hawaii, you can take a lower salary as a tradeoff to being home. If you’re a mainland coach with no Hawaii ties, then money does become a factor, as well as family considerations (wife needing a new job, kids leaving their friends).
Different situations for different people.
Good morning Tsaikos!
Congratulations to the bb team on their win last night.
ASUH has not shown support for the athletic program, so unless it’s someone like the Jaspers then no thanks.
Tulane is getting a really nice on campus stadium for a fraction of what the State of Hawaii will pay to maintain Aloha Stadium.
http://www.nola.com/tulane/index.ssf/2011/12/tulane_green_wave_announces_pl.html
speaking of connect with athletes Brian Norwood would be my guy if he is on the list.
Maybe UHAD will reconsider having boosters help pay for salary above $700,000 if needed.
I mean if Shaw’s salary was partly funded by Na Koa then why not the HC.
What a concept!
garret:
not unless China tells the PAC 12 that they would consent only if Hawaii were part of the PAC 12 – dream, but it could happen.
I believe the rush to get a new coached announced is due to recruiting. There are actually thousands of high quality coaches available for the few open coaching positions. We aren’t getting high profile unless we go after Sandusky.
Back at the old Advertiser, I was on the intern committee. We had to screen through some great applicants attending some very good schools.
I recall there were a lot of applicants from Ivy League schools. Trouble was, they had no local ties. Now that really shouldn’t be a factor. A good reporter is a good reporter. But the intern would have to cover some local politics during the 10-week internship, and, as we know, local politics is quite unique. Also we didn’t pay much, and we didn’t provide housing or a car. So that became a factor: If you came here, where would you live and how would you get around to cover stories?
On the other hand, one of our best interns was a woman with no local ties who got around by bus and a mo-ped. She found a place in Waikiki, which led to a really good story: She wrote about people who made fake IDs.
All of this rambling means: Ya never know.
Off topic, but relevant to Hawaii:
story in the paper of a retired Air force lady whose Dad was a 2nd Lt with the 100 Bn during WWII –
much is written about the 100th and 442nd and MIS, but ever read an article about the “haole” officers who were assigned to the 100th and/or 442nd?
I knew that they were assigned, but never read or heard of their contributions to both units. After time, many of the local soldiers were made officers, probably battle field commission, who replaced the haole officers.
For one, I am happy that Powell will be here soon to meet with surviving members of the 100th to trace her father’s legacy and I’m sure that she will be forever grateful for this opportunity.
As Tom petty sang, “The waiting is the hardest part.”
Howzit, everyone!
Hope we all have a great day!
I suspect that all of the wish lists and all of the qualities fans seek in a head coach aren’t going to make a difference. UH fans would welcome Abercrombie as head coach if he came up with a way to stop Boise State on fourth-and-2 in a close game. At that point, nobody is thinking local ties, salaries or rating stars.
UH actually has received a lot of requests — demands! — from people insisting they are tax-payers and should be on the committee.
Most of the time, it’s like: Who are you again?
Using the I-pay-your-salary card is a slippery slope. It can lead to the person on the other end of the call to say: “OK, if you’re paying my salary, I want a raise. And, while you’re at it, can we get two-ply toilet paper around here?”
1999 is not that long ago, has everyone forgotten how UH dominated local recruiting that year? After JJ’s amazing first season, he and his coaches were all over the top local recruits and they decided as a group to stay home and play for Hawaii. I remember reading reports of JJ even going to watch Vince Manuwai play basketball…Manuwai staying home to play for UH was a huge recruiting win, one of many recruiting wins that year.
35 . . . sorry ST, I would not want Abercrombie anywhere near my football team. Pick someone else for your example please.
Kev-1:
lol.
Sorry about that.
I was trying to hurry through that comment so I could squash a cockroach that just ran across the dining-room table. Uh, I mean, my home office.
That’s funny . . . when I think of Abercrombie, the thought of smashing a cockroach comes to my mind too. Don’t know why . . .
ST, mahalo for the pics on yesterday’s blog. Always good to see friends having fun. Just wish we were there to participate. One of these years…
Students feeling entitled?
@StephenTsai…do you know if our Coaches make the trips to Texas, Virginia, West Virginia and the other states where good football players go for a 5th year of high school? If not, why not?
okay…curiosity has gotten the best of me. why would brian norwood be the best connector?
You’re right. Only eight went to BCS schools in the past four years.
Paulay Asiata – Colorado
Micah Hatchie – Washington
Kaiwi Crabb – Colorado
Stan Hasiak – UCLA
Kapua Sai – Utah
Solomon Koehler – Arizona (Left School)
Benji Kemoeatu – West Virginia (Non Qualifier)
Mykenna Ikehara – Washington
Is Hasiak still at UCLA?
IIRC Ikehara’s career is over at UW
Yah it is a crying shame to get a job here you have to have local ties in the media. I would hire an Ivy leaguer just based on education. But like all other things here, there is still this discrimination against anyone who has a degree from an Ivy institution. That being said…I am proud to have a higher education degree from elsewhere. Why? I am able to realize the difference of cultures and how most of America thinks. My observations and writing is not based on one demographic but my writings can include the thoughts and opinions of our entire country. That being said…GO YALE! That is why the best and brightest do not come home. Tired of reading in the papers about the brain drain. Who’s fault is that then?
Now I am also a published author to include in my resume. My second book comes out next year. Published by a publisher I would have never expected. Who? The Hebrew Union Colleges. Yah, local girl does good!
I think it makes more sense for someone to say.. “I wanna be on the committee cause my family and I have been premium season ticket holders for twenty years.”
According to their Facebook page, San Diego State’s non-football teams officially in Big West Conference.
WW ~
There was a pic showing gmahoney & donna drawing sumting on a paper plate perched on top their head.
Each of us had 60 seconds to draw the UH *H* on the plate. That was Kama krab holding his winnah-winnah chicken dinnah plate.
(Ackchaly, he wen tie wit IWWTHM, so they wen junk-ken-po.)
#26 – good news for Tulane. I also see many other schools doing the the same.
How the state is managing Aloha Stadium leads me to believe they lack the leadership and vision to turn it into an attractive and profitable sporting venue. Instead they agree on throwing away millions on band aid repairs. No wonder the NFL wants to move the pro-bowl. That’s been the state gov M.O. and we can expect more of the same..
Seems more like the ASUH feeling entitled.
There IS a difference between the ASUH few and the masses that make up the entire UHM student-body that DOES include UHM student-athletes.
45.Pride.:
December 12th, 2011 at 10:03 am
pig:
December 12th, 2011 at 8:36 am
…and one more thing, lots has been made about hawaii’s failure to recruit O-line locally. overlooked is that there haven’t been a lot of O-line studs out of hawaii recently because like any other position, it is cyclical. you aren’t going to get studs every year, and the past few years hawaii’s best prospects have been LB’s, DE’s and QB’s. If i’m wrong, name a few O-line studs that went elsewhere because I can’t think of any the past few years.
You’re right. Only eight went to BCS schools in the past four years.
Paulay Asiata – Colorado
Micah Hatchie – Washington
Kaiwi Crabb – Colorado
Stan Hasiak – UCLA
Kapua Sai – Utah
Solomon Koehler – Arizona (Left School)
Benji Kemoeatu – West Virginia (Non Qualifier)
Mykenna Ikehara – Washington
thanks pride, I kind of stand corrected. 6 if you don’t count the non-qualifiers. but my question was more geared toward impact players that are nfl quality prospects. don’t know how many of the 6 have played because like most people in hawaii, it’s hard to pay attention to them when they leave. the point I’m making is that I don’t see one like samson satele, or vince manuwai in the bunch. has there been one lately?
If by chance that none of the other applicants are able to beat out Richard James Miano, this is what I would do if I were the AD. I’d leverage the fact that this is Miano’s ultimate dream job and that he has no aspiration to be the top guy at any other university.
This deal would be a 3 year take it or leave it offer with no room for negotiation on the terms of the contract. I’d give him a base pay that amounts to a 25% increase over what he is currently making now since money should not be an issue for him since he loves Hawaii and the program so much. A 25% raise is significantly more than what Joe Q. Public is seeing right? The rest of his compensation would be in the form of incentives.
Incentives include the following: all players meeting academic goals nets him $25k. Hawaii Bowl eligibility gets him $25k while winning it tacks on another $25k. Winning 9 games out of a 13 game regular season provides a bonus of $75k. Finishing out the season ranked (AP poll) 21-25 nets him $25k, 16-20: $50k, 11-15: $75k, anything in the top10, $100k. Getting to a BCS bowl, if that whole structure is still in place after 2013, would yield him $250k while winning it would give him an additional $250k. If he gets UH to a national championship game by some miracle, $1m bonus and if he wins, another $1m. All applicable bonuses would stack which provides an incentive to meet a number of objectives.
If he does not deliver team performance results (defined as losing seasons, dwindling attendance, etc) and UH needs to terminate his contract, he will be owed $0. If he happens to put the football program into a worse position than when he inherited it, he will owe UH one years worth of his base bay and be required to wear a pink tutu while delivering his resignation speech. Finally, should Miano decide to resign from the position for any reason before the end of his contract, UH will gladly pay him a separation fee of an amount to be determined by the AD (subject to approval by the UH Board of Regents.)
Al, back in the 70’s what was the name of the ASUH president that had a criminal record?
I think he was the guy who coined the phrase “testicular fortification”.
Very impressive PolyMom. One of the original Tsai-ko’s was a ‘published’ author of 2 books.
I think we caused her to become a ‘fo REAL Tsai-ko…
#53 – I think the studs might be in that group that came to Hawaii in 2010. Shigematsu and friends.
Pig
Of the six, I thought a few weren’t UH eligible…
I, too, think we picked up a number of good O-line athletes in the past two years – locally and from the mainland… just got to wait till they are past their red shirt years… which should be next season.
Paulay Asiata – Colorado
Micah Hatchie – Washington
Kaiwi Crabb – Colorado
Stan Hasiak – UCLA (Left School)
Kapua Sai – Utah
Solomon Koehler – Arizona (Left School)
Benji Kemoeatu – West Virginia (Non Qualifier)
Mykenna Ikehara – Washington (No longer on team)
Wow, only a 50% yield.
DBess going have a new HC
chuck norwood
#54
(I’d leverage the fact that this is Miano’s ultimate dream job and that he has no aspiration to be the top guy at any other university.)
Would you hire anyone who said “This is not my dream job, I hope to be out of here in a few years.”
Aloha Kakahiaka!
Without lokahi and aloha… we will be back in square one with new faces.
Have a great week, everyone!
Randall Cunningham was on the radio this morning with BC. He had very nice things to say about Rich Miano (former teammates at the Eagles) and that Miano would do a great job.
Cunningham is a pastor now in Vegas, has a son who is 6’5″ at Bishop Gorman High School.
Forgot what position his son playes, maybe Tight End. Interesting interview.
I had the opportunity to see Cunningham when he was playing for UNLV. Dick Tomey was the UH coach back then and it was my first trip ever to Las Vegas. It was either 1985 or 1986. Anyway, UNLV also had a very good wide receiver by the name for Jim Sandusky who was very good indeed. UH beat UNLV, shutting them out 28-0. A couple of UH players that I remember very vividly were Marco Johnson who was a freshman then, and Duane Coleman who caught a touchdown pass. Don’t know who was the QB. Was it Mike Stennis? Going back to memory lane here.
It was also very interesting to hear the name Randall Cunningham come up. On Saturday, Robert Griffin III mentioned his name as being on of his idols when he was growing up.
Aloha Coach Mack!
you ALWAYS gave us YOUR BEST!
I believe RC said his son is a QB who would have been starting if not for playing behind “the best QB” in LV (he mentioned something about that kid having ties to HI).
Also recall seeing his older brother Sam “Bam” crushing in scores for Da Trojans.
did anyone watch or go to the wahine game? what was kanani wearing at the end? what was the vest for? anyone know?
Thanks.
Benji Kemoeatu finally made it to DI and followed his brothers to Utah
she wore a cooling vest.
#71. thanks
Kanani would never admit it, but could it be that she got more worn out towards the end of the match. That 5 setter was a tough grind for all 5 games and all so tightly contested. You could see it was very intense on every point. With her issue about her body heat I don’t know if it took a toll on her performance or stamina. Still, it was a gutsy performance and I’m grateful and thankful for her contributions to the program. She’s in the conversation for best all around player in Wahina history.
do people make money stuffing envelopes http://bit.ly/t5pF3v
Walkons: Mana Greig Oregon (C), Abe Markowitz USC(C)
As Han Solo said, “I’m gone for a little while and everyone starts having delusions of grandeur.”
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/135465113.html
#45 – Wouldn’t Abe Markowitz be part of the group since he ended up at USC? (Walk on.) Or were you just referring to those who had offers?
Dreary day here in LaLa land. SoCal folks have absolutely no clue how to drive with a little moisture on the ground.
I met Sam Cunningham a month or two ago at at golf tournament. REALLY nice, guy, and for some reason I never put 2+2 together and realzied Randall was his brother.
Watched “The Decendants” the other night. Does anyone know if most of it was shot in Manoa? Good movie about life and relationships…Also watched Young Adult last night – for anyone who thinks their life is miserable, Charlize Theron will make you feel superior. Her character is one nut job!! Oscar worthy performance.
“I’m so tired and so weary, I’m so tired and so blue
Now you’ve gone and left me, oh where do I belong”
Johhny Horton, singer
Heck no the students don’t have a right to selection committee representation!
“Lord, I am so tired. How long can this go on.” – Lee Dorsey (remake by DEVO).
That pretty much sums up how many Warrior fans felt this year.
Did I hear the oc for oregon applied? Very intresting. Runs a awesome and exciting offense.
Just heard the oc for oregon applied. Very intresting. Runs a awesome and exciting offense.
Whoops
#81 I heard that, too. I haven’t been able to find a source though.
ST… 1 ply comment too funny. Ones that spend time at UH and HNL know how humbug it is. Wonder if the capitol the same too.
GO Warriors Search committee!!!
The #1 factor in hiring a new coach is going to be money period, they will try to get off with the cheapest they can.
Pomai,
Then that would be the greatest injustice to the hiring process, and a waste of time to most of the applicants. May as well hand the reigns over to Lumpkin.
On a quick lunch break before two more meetings and one mini-workshop this afternoon & early evening.
With respect to Aloha Stadium – there is a new chair effective this month – Nelson Oyadomari – and there’s already been a major change. The Agenda for this Thursday’s meeting is far more detailed than the ones over the past decade or so.
If anyone here would like to attend the meeting, click http://alohastadium.hawaii.gov/administration/stadium-authority/ for more information. I will be in attendance because there are several issues coming up on the Agenda which I’m tracking.
As for the interim Authority vacancy, the Governor has appointed Ed Hasegawa. His name will be submitted to Senate Committee on Economic Development & Technology after the Legislature opens on January 18 for confirmation. He’s a long-time Democratic Party member for decades. It will be interesting to see him take on Marcia Klompus who is in the Lingle Inner Circle. She’s vocal and he’s not.
Don Weir will most likely be a strong contender for one of the two upcoming vacancies
effective July 1. Will keep folks here posted about this.
TOTAL CHANGE OF SUBJECT – NON-SPORTS:
DrDoc and I are active supporters of the Family Promise program which provides not only temporary shelter but also a wide range of services – education, job training, medical care, etc. – to homeless families. We prepared dinner last week at a Nu`uanu church for the families along with volunteers from both the host church and the helping church.
There are 13 host churches & another 13 helping churches in urban Honolulu – the families stay one week at each hust church. Although the Famiuly Promise program provides the folding beds which are moved from one host church to the next, they do not provide high chairs or other “small kid” equipment such as cribs. The host churches are expected to provide them, but the host church we support had to throw out the broken-down high chair juzt before the families arrived a week ago.
Does anyone here have a no-longer used high chair in good shape – we could use as many as three of them plus a crib or two. You can get a tax deduction for the donation. If you have one, please e-mail me swood at hoku dot com. Please provide me with your real name and a contact phone number.
Back to work.
I just hope after seeing new coach in action I won’t be hearing this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn-enjcgV1o
Maybe they should make the pay scale with a comfortable housing allowance pop up front and replace it with incentives in the years to follow?
The Oregon OC applied? Hmmm berry berry interesting.
This position may be getting a little more attention than I thought it would.
Rich – the movie was filmed all over the island – Manoa, Nuuanu, etc. MPI was used as Scottie’s school, possibly part of the hospital, and possibly the field where they found the older daughter. 3.MPI students had speaking parts and the HS principal was the school counselor.
We laughed at the boyfriend’s description of himself. Definitely wanna see it again.
#87,
Yep. Why even go as far as to hire Lumpkin? Just hand it over to Donovan and give him a 30% raise.
I don’t think its the cheapest, more likely its going to be best value.
jm2375 – Thanks. Scene where George is running to friend’s house looked like the split on Manoa road. MPI looked very familiar. Loved Beau Bridges character.
WOW – Oregon-type O could bring back 40+ point games…ah…to dream…
How long is the wait to hear the announcement on new HC. I hope they hire a coach that can really gain respect and feared by the local and mainland poly kids in a sense like an uncle (s). He will laugh,and giggle with you, comfort you when your down at the same time will make you pay dearly if you get out of line.
Is the hoky poky really what it’s all about? Just sayin..
Did JP say the Oregonian mentioned Mark Helfrich applied for the HC?
If so, maybe he did not apply.
http://www.oregonlive.com/beavers/index.ssf/2011/12/oregon_state_football_defensiv_1.html
Oregon-type offense is exciting and will definitely put fans “seats in the seats”
99
They think that Banker will get 1.1? I don’t think so.
If he brings back the QB they “borrowed” with him from Eugene that would be great!
make money taking surveys for kids http://bit.ly/t5pF3v
Sometimes the education program is more important than pure athletics when deciding on a school.
After having time to process the thought of the ASUH NOW asking to have two chairs on the search committee, this was actually something that should have been done beforehand.
I do think the mere suggestion is a VIABLE one, but not taking up TWO chairs though.
While people can opine that the student body doesn’t deserve anything (WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO REPRESENT STUDENT-ATHLETES AS WELL), the disconnect in THREE areas is noticable.
As far as I am personally concerned the UH athletic department is an alien part of campus whereas upper campus and the ASUH are more in synergy with each other. People always talk about how to reach out to the student body and what can be done.. Well.. This is something that should have been considered, but MODIFIED.
They could have invited ONE representative of the ASUH on board with a prepared question for the candidates at the time of face to face interviews and the question MUST be related to how the new coach would involve or reach out to the student body.
The only concern should be the leaking of information though.
This would be a gesture in the right direction to showing the student opinion matters.
As one ASUH president leaves another just might show interest in UH athletics, but the existing relationship between the ASUH and UHAD would have been there in some fashion.
(Some of you may now return to mocking students and them spending all their monies on excessive alcohol and drug use now.)
What’s so wrong with having a student rep on the selection committee? Seems to make sense on a very basic level.
If its true that the Oregon OC applied, I am intrigued to say the least.
Lots of fan comments of “no-Aloha” (prononced “alowah” in OR) on the Oregonlive site for Mark Banker and his seeming befuddlement of defending the spread option, in particular versus U of O (which is all that really matters to a BeavFan).
Oregon doesn’t do all that much differently than a lot of spread option teams except with regard to the torrid pace, IMHO. Not sure their OC has much to do with that…maybe gluing the pictures on those signboards?
heheheh
Student’s have their say…
http://www.hawaii.edu/admin/regents/index.php?regent=williams
through Mathew Williams.
Other than that, they also had their say when they didn’t show up for the games. Let’s pick two from the empty seats. …
Truthfully, until about 15 minutes ago I wouldn’t have been able to name the Duck OC.
He seems to be more from the Koetter-Hawkins (ala B$-You) tree.
http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2009/04/more_on_helfrichs_hiring.html
I agree ASUH should have “A” seat on the selection committee if they view themselves as stakeholders.. I also think they have the resposability as stakeholders to ensure the student section is filled to capacity…
mih,
Risky maneuver. I know a coupla Tsaikos who were in those seats…
not good to have them on the Selection Cmte. 😆
Give em 2 chairs but no vote or one vote.
UH students want a say in the selection of the football coach? Do many UH Manoa students even know who the name of the previous coach or the fact that UH does play games at Aloha Stadium in the fall? Just asking. They should go back to hanging out at Thomas Square beating their drums.
Colorado State hired Alabama’s OC. Look at what a MWC school is paying their head coach…they wouldn’t have gotten this highly qualified as a coach if they tried to pay $500k to $700k.
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7346447/colorado-state-rams-hire-alabama-crimson-tide-coordinator-jim-mcelwain-football-coach-sources-s
Does anybody here think that the rumor of the OC of Oregon applying here is true? I just can’t see why he would want to apply here. Doesn’t make sense.
I didn’t realize Colorado State had that much money to be throwing around.
The Big West *really* wanted SDSU in their conference! SDSU is basically part-indy for basketball while still being in the Big West for everything else. SDSU plays every Big West school once per season, but gets to pick the Big West schools they will play a second time while all the other Big West schools will play home-and-homes. SDSU will have more nonconference games than Big West games!
UH and every other Big West school will play 18 conference games while SDSU will play 14 conference games, picking the better conference teams to play so that their RPI stays strong.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2011/dec/12/sdsu-negotiates-shorter-big-west-schedule/
iwwthm,
The people in Ft. Collins were probably saying the same about Hawaii up until last week!
Colorado State’s 2009-2010 Athletic Budget: $25 mil
UH’s 2009-2010 Athletic Budget: $35 mil
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/ncaa-finances.htm
Eh by reading that article maybe he didn’t apply. he be on my wish list tho.
Jon Embry better not sign a long-term lease on his house.
Garret,
Yah, but da air is thinner up there! 😉
It all started at the stadium. The 2 reserved seats to my left were empty all season. BYHuhu game the 2 seat owners are seated as I approached from the rear. Would you believe that it was UKU from LA?! Bwhahah!
Today, I’m out at the mall wit Diana. I sit at one end of a long bench as Diana ducks into a store. Suddenly, that old familiar voice booms out…Eh Hawaiian! Wen you goin’ stop following me around…yep, you guessed it…UKU in da house!
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I don’t really get why some of you think the students have no stake in the football program. We get on their case for not being in the stands during games, yet here is an opportunity to try and bridge that gap (although a very insignificant opportunity) and we call them entitled?
I mean, I understand the ill feelings toward student fans for not showing up, but in a roundabout way, this could be a way of encouraging them to show up. Make them feel involved more and maybe they’ll feel more inclined to come. Or maybe not.
It just seems that many people forget that it is just as much, if not more the university of the students, than it is the average 65 year old fan. Unless of course that 65 year old fan is an alum.
M.R.C. Greenwood attended the meeeting, per SA article.
*** Mountain West asks for automatic Bowl Championship Series Berth. ***
http://www.staradvertiser.com/news/breaking/135465113.html?id=135465113
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So, are our assistant coaches recruiting for UH or are they recruiting to up their stock should they have to go elsewhere?
all of the above
WWYD?
ai-eee-soos:
The way the conferences are expanding and merging, there might not be too many bowls left to be included into. I’m waiting to see if the MAC and Sun Belt will merge after all this. That would really bring the death blow to the WAC…
Wait!
You tellin’ me the Cmte members going forego watching the 2nd half of the Seahawks-Rams?
😆
Hate to change the subject. But that’s why I don’t carry ten grand in my purse. I carry my ten grand in my front pocket where I can see and feel it.
By the way, none of my purses are worth more than $20.00. When people see my purse, they assume that there’s no money in it.
Unless any of us are students, none of us will be involved in the decision making process for the next head coach. Gotta just assume that they will do a good job and go along with whoever they pick.
Garret, I think that the Big West’s special deal for SDSU in basketball is a bad idea. Why should SDSU be the only team in the conference given an opportunity to better position itself for an NCAA at-large bid? Either you’re all-in or all-out. If SDSU didn’t want to be on equal footing with UH and other Big West teams, the Aztecs should have been told to go join the WAC and play LaTech and UT Arlington.
Pride …
Back in my early twenties, I did that with 20 – 50 dollar bills… put em in my front pocket where I could feel em and feel rich… then thoughtlessly I got on my motorcycle and sped over to my parent’s place from Waikiki to Aiea and by the time I was near Tripler … I was $800 poorer…
Back tracked all the way to town but found nothing.
that’s a lot of money for way back then.
http://www.nba.com/news/transactions/2011_12/
On other former UH Player News – AC signs with Toronto Raptors!
The students aren’t entitled to a say…they didn’t want the $50 athletics fee, which was a no-brainer decision with the overwhelming majority of colleges implementing the same type of fee for much more than UH proposed. If the students are incapable of handling the responsibility of a $50 decision, how in the world do they feel they could contribute in any constructive manner towards a multi-million dollar decision? Sorry, but this UH alumn says no way.
I have a strong feeling banker may be in the lead due to his and Rockne Freitas’s connection to Oregon State. I wonder what kind of offense he will bring in if he should become the next Head Cooach?
Students have their say when they elect the ASUH President with less then 25% of the student body voting.
My son is attending a local high school and he says he wants to be on the selection committee when they fire and hire their new head coaches. They are students after all and like their UH counter part, they are a part of the State system.
Pride 133 . . . Lohan’s story is BS. She doesn’t carry around ten grand. She might have had ten grams worth of dope, but not cash.
voting for asuh pres, etc. sure no problem.
but, hc for any sport…no way.
do they decide who is the dean of the school of medicine?
been talking to a lot of birdies lately and none of them have any idea why helrich’s name is surfacing. perhaps just someone making conversation.
Allowing a student to sit on the committee doesn’t necessarily mean they would really have much of a say. “Here boy/girl, write this down . . . why don’t you go ahead and get Mr. Banker a coffee . . . go make a copy of this . . . “
I doubt that if you went up to a student at UH they could name the president of their student body or any of the officers.
You guys act like a student on the committee would some how take over the meeting and hire whoever the heck he/she wants. You forget about the rest of the people on the committee. A student on the committee does not equal a student picked the HC.
I think JP misread whatever he was reading. I think he must have read this blog. It’s the only thing I can find that had all the names JP mentioned…Helfrich, Rolovich, and Morrison.
http://sportsrantz.com/pacific/2011/12/07/my-personal-top-5-candidates-to-replace-mack/
147 . . . now that is a good point. BTW, I am not particularly arguing for a student to be on the committee. I just read that there was a little debate and don’t see why not. Really . . . I don’t care. I just want the right coach.
IWWTHM #116
Hawaii got that kind of money to throw around too. If we were winning, Mack’s salary would not have been an issue. As a matter of fact, he would have probably gotten a raise and an extension.
BIK
#149,
Yup that what I’m thinking too! Darnit!!
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If students should be part of the committee, I think it should be one of the students who sat in the student section on every home game. Not, a student politician. I don’t know…just saying.
Hawaiian Airlines billboard alongside the Big Screen in the Seahawks’ Stadium. Good idea!
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How many of the Seahawk fans are Husky fans who ever imagined they’d be Pete Carroll’s 12th Man?
…or for Marshawn Lynch and Mike Williams?
They’ve had a lot of practice cheering against Steven Jackson though
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No. 31 Old Diver…I know you tried to be humorous but that one was tasteless and unnecessary to the conversation.
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Actually students sit on search committees for deans, etc. But the ultimate decision is made by to school Pres (or in this case, JD). A friend was the recommended choice for a deanship at another school, but the president selected the other candidate who was totally unqualified. I trust JD makes the right decision and not one that’s politically correct.
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I still think we need to pay our next coach in the range of 800k-1mil. It’s just the name of the game we choose to play. Please don’t look at Chris Ault as an example because he is more of an exception. The big money being tossed around the upper echelons of the college football world will trickle down. Fresno looks like they will offer a million to the next coach. CSU just offer 1.5 mil to their next coach. These are peer institutions for us. Our peers include the likes of CSU, Fresno, and even Boise when projecting the type/quality of coach we seek to hire. Chris Ault is a UNR lifer. That is why they can lock him in as 450k. That, my friends, is not the way the game is played. If we hire somebody on the cheap, that means we hire a “hawaii lifer,” aka Miano or Lumpkin. If we manage to get someone outside of the system, then I believe they’d be here for a few years tops. A lot of fans will not be happy. The Stakes are HUGE in this hire. A higher profile coach from a higher profile BCS school may excite the the fan base, but it will come with a steep price. And it could very well blow up in our faces too — remember FVO? Yes indeed, the stakes are huge. And I’m glad to be just a fan with an opinion.
BIK
I agree, throw a student or 2 in the committee… We need that 12th man! plus who’s gonna leak candidates names on twitter?
Good ting Pete Carroll going be in Seattle (presumably) next September, not LA
The article on ESPN about the MWC requesting AQ says Hawaii will enter in 2013. That’s an error right?
#45
Dalton Hilliard UCLA
Abe Markowitz USC That great LAX educational institution that is not a four letter acronym
Head Coach
I’d cast my vote for a fellow lifetime letterwinner member if he was the best candidate for the program all things considered by the decision makers. I’d also cast my vote for a non-letterwinner, non-resident, ‘non-hawaii ties’ appicant if he was the best candidate all things considered by the decision makers.
Set the bar high, offer the best candidate the job, and then let us all get behind the program and take it to a higher level not seen before but often spoken/written about.
Tsaiko Christmas Party Revelers
Auntie Coco was quite hesitant to go in with me to say hello given the anniversary evening. Mahalo to all of you that made her decision so rewarding for the both of us.
‘applicant’
Yes that is an error. Whoever wrote that must have Big East on the mind.
Reading comprehension is LOST again. Must come with old age for some.
Nowhere did I fully agree that the student representative have a say in the outcome or vote, or however they do it.
The simple gesture of allowing a student representative to come on and ask a question or two during the interview process, for example, that pertains to the new head coach’s views on student body participation speaks volumes on opening doors to new relations with the student body.
Apparently some people don’t want this.
As much as some people don’t read very well.
It is all irrelevant anyway. The next HC for the UH has already been decided. All of this is all formality.
Awesome website lookeing foreword to find the next update
Who’s the next UH coach? did i miss all the action already??
They are opening the envelopes in 1 minute….
BIK,
CSU is throwing that kind of money when I am sure that we double their take at the turnstile AND maybe almost triple their TV revenue.
What the heck?
Fresno looks to be willing to dish out that same kind of money for their next HC.
It’s not uncommon for govt boards/commissions to have ex-officio non voting members.
What’s the harm in involving the ASUH or GSO as an ex-officio non voting member?
Regardless if it’s the HC or Dean of Med school.
…and the winner is
If we get the Oregon OC, can we get Nike unis, apparel, accessories, and shoes? They’re better than UA in my opinion.
While we’re waiting for the winner. For those that haven’t seen the matrix move by a high school football player, check this out.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/highschool/blog/prep_rally/post/Player-8220-Matrixes-8221-his-way-out-of-tac?urn=highschool-wp9782
Don, re #169, re #45, Hilliard been under training at McDonald’s and now on the oline? 🙂
I changed my mind… let the students have a voice… AND let the selection committed also decide that each member should donate $$$ (if they haven’t already) to the football program or athletic department prior to the selection so that each has a vested interest in the outcome… 😉
That would be hilarious to see the BCS grant MWC AQ status.
Boise going wish they weren’t going.
169. Don Weir
Mahalo for stopping by. Great stories about your playing days, Larry Price and the trip to Japan!
Hilarious!
does anyone know of anyone who actually applied for the job. I think Adrain Klemm or Mark Herltiz would generate alot of excitment and would bring in best recuirts. Coach Miano is a good coach but I do not seeing the program going to the next level. Also, would hiring coach Miano bring more fans to the game? I do not think so. One coach I think that would be a major mistake is the JUCO coach Rush. He is a lifetime JUCO coach. We need a young guy to come in and generate excitement and step up recuirting
Being JUCO doesn’t bother me.. JJ wasn’t even a College Coach… it’s who you can surround yourself with… and this guy has coached a lot of good players, now turned coaches, in his time.
I no like Helfrich. My neck going get sore watching the ball go up and down the field.
No juco coach.
Auwe, thought I said, I no kea who da coach. I support whomever they hire.
From the names on the committee we are going to get an “Eh you know my uncle right?” candidate. Bank on it … UNLESS … Jim Donovan really decides to take the lead. Just my humble opinion!
Wonder if we can get Tony Sporano to apply.
Sparano
Wonder why Nick Holt and Doug Nussmeier neva apply?
Wonder why Beau Baldwin neva apply?
Wonder how come we haven’t heard Kalani Sitake’s name. Though that he would have been interested.
the quiet before the storm.
tsai camped out, ears to the wall.
little birdies in flight.
circling, circling, vulture wannabees.
who wants to be that fly on the wall.
all 1000 eyes.
(i know one who wishes…he said so.)
Even though he’s young, I thought that Rocky Seto would have shown interest.
Eh WeeAahh! (priceless)
Tanks for stopping by. You gave us just enuff to want more. Hehehe…
pride…you never know. i think that ute asst may have…not confiremed yet.
others applying not wanting to reveal their i.d.
Talking about Juco coaches, Keith Uperesa was a good Juco coach for several years at Snow College. Then he coached at Idaho State, USC, Utah, UNLV, and now Nichols State. I’d rather hire Uperesa then Rush.
so no more mack mondays.
but, could have rolo mcflurry mondays.
By the way, I hear that former Warrior Dane Uperesa lives in Nebraska, but coaches at a college in Iowa. His O-line and team have won the league champiojnship for the past two years.
We shouild have approached Northern Iowa’s Mark Farley.
We should have also approached Jay Locey. Jay is the Assistant head coach at Oregon State who was a very succesful coach at Linfield. 84 and 18 as a head coach.
I like Beau Baldwin. It seems like our coaches come from the north west anyway.
There is not one coach on the list who will generate excitement among the fans. From the names on the mythical list the general fan will only be able to recognize Rich Miano’s name. Banker, Rush, even the ex-locals Akina, Anae, Chow will be unrecognizable to most fans. IMO name recognition will not be high on the list of the committee. High on the list will be the ability build a sustainable program because winning and hope for the next season are the only things that will excite the fans.
Is UH just sitting back waiting for application to flow in for the Head Coach position, or are they talking a pro-active approach and searching the country for the best coach ? Just asking !!
Mana Silva is signing an active roster contract tomorrow with the Dallas Cowboys.
#209
There were some reports the committee was extending invitations for certain coaches to apply. If someone needs to be asked is that person the best guy for the job. Everyone who counts knows we are looking for a head coach.
in CNNSI, Hawaii-San Jose State is shown. (somewhere in this segment)
Hey – we’re in the national “spotlight” again.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/ncaa/?eref=sinav&sct=hp_nv_a
(somewhere in this segment)
Old Diver..
Isn’t there a place where they can post openings online for football coaching professionals?
Pride. – #193 – I thought you meant Tony Soprano. 😆
Good evening!
Four more wake ups to go.
30 applicants for HC position according to HNN.
#210 Go Get’um Mana!! Good Luck!!!
The four days will feel like four months.
Gonna take forever then the two weeks will go by in a flash.
Tsigh.
re # 217.kruzen:
December 12th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
30 applicants for HC position according to HNN.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/16310076/30-apply-for-uh-head-football-coach-position?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+HawaiiNewsNow-News+%28Hawaii+News+Now+-+News%29
210.
Stretch, Powder Puff and Rob25 will be happy to read that.
Only thing, too late and wrong team.
30 applicants?!?! I wonder how many of them are really worthy of consideration. In their eyes each of them probably are.
Would be interesting just to see the names — after all is said and done. Well, maybe release the names if the applicants agree.
Starting with 30.
http://www.hawaiinewsnow.com/story/16310076/30-apply-for-uh-head-football-coach-position
Echo.
HA!
#214
This is kind of interesting: UH taking applications for the whole staff.
http://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobs/4605463?utm_source=BoxwoodIndeed&utm_medium=Indeed&utm_campaign=Boxwood%2BIndeed%2BFeed&source=indeed
Then, the postings @ UH: http://www.pers.hawaii.edu/wuh/srchresults.aspx?si=1260641
It would be weird to see Hawaii with applicants that are not attractive to many, but then again Colorado state can go ahead and hire the OC from Alabama for 1.5 million per year? Hawaii has to compete with a school like that. If not, then just WEIRD!
That was interesting. Now, my #223 should reference #212
Thirty… I wonder how many applied for Fresno’s HC position?
A Joe & Kekoa
I need to get out more. I have a treasure of stories from those days.
Wafan
We need to have the applicants also submit their names for court appointments so Neil has to release the names (I wish I knew how to make those happy & sad faces y’all use).
Final selection for HC will apparently be made by JD. Based on his recent hiring track record (I.e., HCs Takahara, Nagamine, Arnold), one could expect the football pick to be made from someone with very, very strong local ties to Hawaii and not necessarily with Div I HC experience. Note too the preference for youth over experience. For better or worse, that would seem to eliminate “higher profile name” candidates from the Mainland (ex., FSU, Oregon, OSU, CCSF, etc.)
Whether the reason is economics, right fit, current recruiting, etc, don’t expect any surprises.
PolyMom – Nice post…That being said…I’m not sure if you were trying to make a point or just bragging about your accomplishments…That being said…I’m really looking forward to your next E-Book
For nearly every UH hire, there is a committee.
ASUH better be careful. It won’t get to sit on the committee for a head coach, but it might be able to get seats at the next meeting to hire a biology professor.
DON #227 – only the names of the six finalist are released for court appointment but not all the names of applicants who have applied for the appointment.
With a number of confidential applicants, can we risk a student or two on the panel? Wouldn’t they have to go through some kind of screening and background check and sign off on a confidentiality agreement subject to liability if that person leaks such confidential information?
John’s (las vegas/rasu begasu) Return Home Postponed
Due to procedural delays regarding John’s ashes and the subsequent difficulties in arranging flights for all concerned, Kumi is postponing the return to Honolulu until after the holidays. They anticipated return this weekend, but now estimate mid-January 2012.
A closed gathering of family and friends was held at Sato-ya in Las Vegas last night.
An open Celebration of Life gathering in Honolulu is in the planning stages.
Did they name the Chaminade Women’s Volleyball head coach yet?
#231
Once again we are kept in the dark except for the front runners (final 6 indeed; we want to see who got ace’d out because of no connections).
Mahalos for listening to ramblings today.
A day after they posted the Head Coach vacancy, UH apparently posted the Associate/Coordinator/Assistant/ job vacancies, too. I thought the new Head Coach would take care of that? Or had the “new” head coach already been selected?
I wonder how many applicants applied but did not qualify?
http://ncaamarket.ncaa.org/jobs#/detail/4605463
Then again, it says “Possible position vacancies”.. so it may be there to help facilitate the New HC’s hiring of his supporting staff…
I agree. But I doubt that would happen. It doesn’t appear that the ASUH officers have any interest in UH sports given the lack of student support at the games. If they were really looking out for the interests of the students, they would have encouraged students to use the bus services and attend games, since they are paying fees… AND to show some school spirit. Many of the students I see at the games are fellow student-athletes and cheer squad members.
Don Weir,
Sorry to have missed you at the Christmas party…and Aunty Coco. We got there after the final HNL Regional VB game.
with the head coaching position there is no closing date.
from the notice:
“Continuous Recruitment: Review of application will begin on Dec 12, 2011 and will continue until the position is filled.”
So could there be a chance that we may see more apply?
rich2176, mih…
asst coaches and staff are signed to one year contracts every year. it is typical throughout the country in this profession. after all if the head is no longer there then the rest also are replaced.
so regardless of the head coach’s contract these job announcements are posted annually for asst coaches and some staffers.
stevem…thanks for the info on big john collins. do you have the mailing address for their residence?
please send me or post here.
thanks
al,
Thanks.. makes sense…
redzone…that’s a failsafe puka, just in case the committee and/or jd run the gamit of their top choices and still no hire.
Would be awesome to one day see such intense interest in hiring a football coach be applied to the hiring of say… a new Dean for the School of Medicine. Or detailed background checks on possible candidates for a new Chancellor. Or links to articles to a possible new head of custodians.
the list will be rated.
interviews will be .held.
interested parties on both sides will negotiate a salary.
salaries will be commensurate with one’s experience/value.
if terms cannot be reached, then they’ll move on to the next candidate.
it could take awhile or it could be done asap.
on another note…frustration is
the na wahine wvb team and coach dave shoji. they were so close they could taste it. the best team loaded with the best under six foot players lost to the best team loaded with the best six foot over players.
one or two plays from putting them away.
we all felt the pain,
the sands sifting between their fingers.
whew.
they’ll be back next year.
bigger, stronger, and hungry.
surely we’ll miss kanani’s leadership and skill.
the sneak attack by little chanteal.
and the courage from alex.
but we reload with tai and falyn at 6’1″ and 6’4″.
AL #250. Sorry you missed lunch today.
Don’t forget Jade Volster – who looks pretty tall
tfti #251
Wonder if Pat Hill applied?
Story on University of Texas San Antonio football program. They begin play in the WAC next year after their first year of football in 2011.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/video/ncaaf_video/2011/12/05/120611.utsa.SportsIllustrated/?sct=cf_bf1_a5
#234…..what happened to Nahaku Brown (Chaminade VB coach)?
I still think JD already has his guy picked out. Remember when the announcement was made about UH joining the MWC? JD kept that one close to his chest. It was only hours before the announcement did we hear any chirpings.
Somewhere around the Utah St. loss, JD probably began his covert conversations and dealings. Right now things are just being ironed out.
Just my hunch . . .
Heck with students on the selection committee – I’d get whoever was responsible for finding Chip Kelly for Oregon. Chip was OC (never HC) at IAA New Hampshire just before being hired at Oregon. Two-time PAC 10 Coach of the year, 2 Rose Bowls, 3 BCS appearances in his first 3 yrs at Oregon! That’s a genius pick!!
May JD be blessed with such wisdom . . .
Having ASUH student reps on the committee is not a good idea based on the attitude they seem to be approaching this process. It appears that ASUH is coming at this from a point of antagonism. Unless these student reps really know what they are doing, no one will listen to them in the meetings. Most students at UH don’t even take ASUH seriously. This is one example of the UH student government having an overblown sense of themselves. Honestly, they don’t really care about UH football. If they did, they would have rallied the student body to go to the games and support the team–but they could not.
@Dan-O
“#234…..what happened to Nahaku Brown (Chaminade VB coach)?”
She officiates bball and volleyball part-time…
from FB by PIAA Doris:
#256
I agree, I think JD has a good idea who he wants. Isn’t that what you would expect though? The time for an open mind is before you have to pull the trigger on the previous guy. With the decision coming soon having an open mind at this point would be like going shopping for handbags with my wife. Honey what do you think about this one. No that one. Maybe this one? The one over there?
#261 . . . perfect analogy.
Wait? Don’t we have a football player that is a member of the ASUH’s offices?
Then again.. it might be conflict of interest.
263 . . . good idea. Shouldn’t be a COI though. At least let a player rep share perspective. What I worry about though, is bias in favor of a coach already on staff. Obviously a current player would have more feelings toward a current coach than a complete stranger, unless of course he dislikes the current coach.
RE: Student leader being a student leader.
Too little too late. Students do deserve to be on the advisory committe. But the ASUH should have spoken up as soon as the AD said they were in the process of forming a committee to assist with the hiring.
To come out on the final day of application smacks more of personal interest than the interest of the student body. The ASUH should give the AD notice now that they want two students on the search committee for the next WBB coach.
#258….yeah, I know. But #234 mentioned if anyone heard of Chaminade naming the new VB coach.
Although I welcome their participation on the selection committee, ASUH is a day late, dollar short.. Maybe time
If the salary for the HC job at UH pays $500,000 to $600,000 that will put UH in the bottom third of the pay scale.
Any recruits? Where’s Jeezy?
More like 50 cents.
Nice list. Let the selection begin.
Someone mentioned lunch?
I trust JD to make the best decision possible. It’ll be tough to find someone with Mack’s resume or better.
Bobby Curran said we are not a $1M/coach program. Fine, ok. Well, CSU ain’t a $1.5M/coach program by any stretch of the imagination.
Fortune favors the bold.
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Nothing Curran says holds any weight with me. He offers a consistently biased perspective, which I guess is his role, but still . . .
What does he base that on? Quality of the team? Conference? Who knows.
While the money may be tight, we are closer to a $1 million/coach program than he thinks. When JJ was here, we were definitely, he just wasn’t getting paid that. We will be back to that level soon.
Don’t forget . . . If Mack were winning consistently and filling the stands, etc., his contract would have probably been a non-issue.
Boise State and San Diego State will find out how difficult it will be to travel and win going east to play those team in the eastern time zone. They will not do as well. It is not easy to travel east and play. This will backfire on them unless they get to have 8 to 9 teams to make a western division and not have to play 3 to 4 games a year in the eastern time zone.
If MWC can win this automatic invite there is still chance BSU and SDSU might want to reconsider. MWC should take the BCS to court if the BCS denies the MWC right base on qualifying.
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The current search-advisory committee is more than capable and competent enough to select several possible coaching candidates.
I see no value with adding a student or an athlete to the committee. They bring no real world experience that would enhance or sway the committee’s decision.
This is not the time nor place to burden the committee with the adage to accommodate token opinions.
Thank you kids but, leave this one to the adults to handle. Don’t be so hasty to be a grown up. You have the rest of your life to be one.
Now, go back and study.
I’ll mention this again the MWC networks better up the ante for the MWC now not in 2016 if they want their product to survive and be competitive especially if they can get that automatic birth to a BCS game.
If this can play out positively the seasonal income for the MWC teams should increase from the networks.
The decision to release the names of the applicants in this particular situation is in Jim Donovan’s hands; however, the applicants have the right to object and that will impact what happens next.
I do not believe that Jim has made up his mind and is going through a “dance.” That happened in January 2008 and that turned out kind of junk over time.
Some of you who support Candidate A will jump for joy if Jim selects him; however, if he selects Candidate B, then you’ll get all mumphy while B’s supporter jump for joy.
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its been nearly seven hours since the packet was turned over to the committee. i wonder if they are still going through the applications and resumes?
does the committee have the right to call applicants?
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Al ~ I was told the cmte met for 2 hours, ate dinner and adjourned for the nite. I heard it was because they all wanted to watch Hawaii 5-0.
2 hours!
If the committee only spent 2 hrs, you would think that it was relatively easy for them to come up with a short list. Is there a can’t-miss dream candidate? Hmmm.
I would think interviews would follow shortly. Did a particular sports columnist apply?
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Yesterday my lab got up to a toasty 65. I know we have budget cut backs . . . but this is crazy.
Hoping the coach screening and hiring committees work diligently and carefully. not sure i would like to be in JD’s shoes. Sorta damned if you do, damned if you do not.
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Stephen reports these are the notable applicants-
Rich Miano,George Lumpkin, Norm Chow, Dirk Koetter, Mark Banker, Mike Cavanaugh, Brian Norwood, Duane Akina, Ivin Jasper, Buzz Preston; and George Rush.
“The Jaguars have the league’s worst offense and Koetter doesn’t sound too convinced that he’ll be back in Jacksonville next year.”
According to PBN the next coach, “needs to reignite a passion for the sport — among his players, the fans and those who support the program.
To rediscover what passion looks like, the selection committee and candidates for the job would do well to watch tapes of last week’s UH-USC volleyball match — not the action on the court but the fans in the stands.
In a column published in the local daily newspaper over the weekend, a UH professor suggested that football is not all that important in the broader scheme of things.
He’s wrong.”
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According to some reasonably reliable resources but not confirmed by The Big Cheese, there will be an initial round of interviews conducted via Skype if necessary and, for sure, in-person interviews for the Final Three/Four/Five/Six.
Please No Norm Chow and Dirk Koetter. I’d be happy with Cavanaugh, Norwood, Akina, and if no one else Miano. In any case I really hope they keep Rolo on as OC.
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…and then there were?
Wonder if there were any names eliminated from the “Go”?
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Penn State representatives have contacted Navy head coach Ken Niumatalolo.
Dallas has picked up Mana Silva
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4688106/cowboys-sign-safety-barry-church-to-ir?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
There have been 25 head coach openings since the end of the NCAA regular season. Eighteen have been filled, only seven are still open.
Dallas if you had Mana you would not have gotten Tebowed.
That’s a lot of competition for good coaches. And probably 18 of the better ones have been contracted, eh? Then again, in the light of sour grapes, we probably couldn’t have afforded them, anyway. 😉
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PState not having an easy time, in finding a HC.
I wonder how many of the football staff they had to let go due to the scandal? How many were around those same years?
Norwood was on staff there too
Mana Silva signed by the Cowboys.
From ESPN:
“Addressing another injury, the Cowboys also signed safety Mana Silva off Buffalo’s practice squad since Barry Church is heading to injured reserve because of a shoulder injury that will require surgery.
Silva, 6-foot, 206 pounds, went to training camp with Baltimore as an undrafted free agent out of Hawaii and spent part of the season on the Ravens’ practice squad. He had seven tackles in the preseason. At Hawaii, he intercepted 14 passes.
The Cowboys needed to sign Silva after Church’s right shoulder popped out twice in Sunday’s loss to the New York Giants. Church was replaced by Danny McCray, who did not practice last week because of a high left ankle sprain.”
Down to 3? Banker, Lumpkin, Rush.
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Thirty applicants? That’s good. Wish we could know who’s interested besides those already named.
Stay where you are Kenny. Unless of course they offer a ton of money. 🙂 Its nice to see a local boy and former Warrior make good!
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Dirk Koetter actually listened to some calls/emails and applied? Want! He’s one of those potential candidates who can bring back the excitement, interest, and former season ticket holders like myself back into the fold. And I’d definitely open up the wallet for this guy as far fundraising goes. Someone can recommend he keep Cal Lee and Tony Tuioti on staff for recruiting. Rolovich can be the QB coach and learn from his guy.
Young at 52, actual D-1A head coaching experience. Ex-quarterback. An offensive minded guy (vertical passing game.) Had stints as the offensive coordinator at places like Missouri, Boston College, and Oregon (under Mike Bellotti) before taking on the head coach job at Boise in 1998. Got Boise football on the map when they moved up to FBS. Went 20-5 his last two seasons there. Had to deal with dysfunction at ASU but still managed to compile a 40-34 record and managed to bring the Sun Devils back to relevance in his 2nd season. The first 5 years, he also wore the offensive coordinator cap. His final game was in the 2006 Hawaii Bowl where UH sent him out a loser. After the game, I remember Koetter saying this was one of the loudest crowds he’s ever played in front of. Around 45,000 attended that game whereas only 31,000 were in Aloha Stadium when his Boise team played UH in 1999.
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Today will be a hectic day of Coaches I bet starting to arrive tonight. May the BEST man win! I hope this resolves by Friday. They need to make a decision. Boys are nervous about their futures. They may have to look for new schools if they are not picked up by new coaches.
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Norm Chow is known for developing NFL QB such as Jim McMahon Chicago Bears, Steve Young SF 49ers, Ty Detmer Green Bay, Philip Rivers SD Chargers, Carson Palmer Cincinnati Bengles and Matt Leinart Houston Texans (Colt Brennon high school team mate). He was the finalist to replace June Jones and should have been.
If Norm Chow was hired back then we won’t be going though all of this now.
The only reason I see that he is not hired as a head coach anywhere is ‘He’s Asian’
Ohh now I’ve said it. But where can he get a chance but back at home where he started in Waialua (my school). Now if you can Win in Waialua Football program, you can win anywhere.
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