And the winner is . . .

UH’s starting quarterback for the Air Force game is . . . click here.

But both will play.

* * * * *

Best wishes to Jim Donovan, who is a finalist for the athletic director’s job at Cal State Fullerton.

Link: Donovan story.

* * * * *

Wideout Darius Bright did not make the trip because of what is termed an issue with his Achilles’ heel.

* * * * *

Deepest sympathies to wideout Chris Gant, whose grandfather passed away.


  1. Whats up November 15, 2012 5:12 am

    Good luck to Higgins and a QB change just might be what the DR ordered.

  2. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:17 am


  3. Slugger November 15, 2012 5:21 am

    Good morning, gang!

    Healing to hurt Warriors!

    Condolences to Chris Gant’s ‘ohana. Prayers.

    Good luck, QB1!


  4. gmahoney November 15, 2012 5:22 am

    Alright, Higgins! Go Warriors!

  5. d1shima November 15, 2012 5:23 am

    Aloha to the Gant Ohana.

  6. d1shima November 15, 2012 5:24 am

    Great Morning All!


  7. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:24 am

    tsai can u confirm that Wynn will be a GA here at UH? i assume GA bc if it was for a real coaching position, wouldnt the job need to be posted on the UH website?

  8. 3-Prong November 15, 2012 5:25 am


    Don’t see why nc woild say he still expects to see ss in the game after naming another starter.

  9. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:26 am

    i just hope Higgins gets a fair shot to be starter.

  10. d1shima November 15, 2012 5:27 am

    Best wishes to JD

  11. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:28 am

    8. 3-prong…. sounds like it’s ok for Higgins to look ova his shoulder, but not SS.

  12. 3-Prong November 15, 2012 5:28 am

    SAW: If NC is true to form. He should get a good looooooooooong look. Hehe

  13. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:29 am

    re: Hala’api’api on yesterday’s blog. i was told from someone who’s opinion i highly value, that Hala’api’api could potentially become a better LB in college than Chester Su’a. i emailed the UH coaches multiple times regarding Hala’api’api, but got no response. i assume they passed on him bc they were high on others.

    havent been following WSU much, but from earlier in the season, it looked like Su’a was now only a part-time starter. Coen was getting more PT than Su’a at LB, tho they play different LB positions.

  14. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:33 am

    45- 23 Air Force 🙁

  15. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:33 am

    to me, Higgins should get to start these last 3 games of the season. bc according to Chow, “we dont want our QBs looking over their shoulder.” Higgins needs to play free and not be worried about making mistakes and then Chow yanking him. if Higgins gets a quick hook, we know Chow is a hypocrite and plays favorites.

    hopefully Higgins can open Chow’s eyes and show him that maybe making more tweaks to his offense makes it better. moving more to a spread attack will help the offense. i doubt it, but still hopeful.

  16. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:34 am

    good luck to the Warriors, stay warm…. it going be cold up there!!!

  17. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:35 am

    15. exactly! thank you letsgowarriors!

  18. Warrior4Life November 15, 2012 5:38 am

    Here’s the Wynn article link.

  19. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 5:39 am


    Chow said last night that Wynne is not a done deal.

    And, yes, if it happens, which it should, he would replace Inoke Funaki as GA.

    GAs are limited to 3-year terms. Funaki is finishing up his third season.

    Olivia Vea, who works with the video department, also is a GA. Because she’s in a non-coaching position, there’s a possibility they could make her a paid employee, opening up another GA spot.

  20. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 5:42 am


    Did you actually read the whole article?

    Everything is explained in there.

  21. SAWARRIOR November 15, 2012 5:44 am

    20. i don’t have a subscription. 🙁

  22. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 5:45 am

    It’s pretty sad about Gant. Apparently he found out soon after the plane landed in L.A. last night.

  23. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 5:47 am

    By the way, wishing Dave Reardon’s mom a speedy recovery.

    She recently experienced a health issue.

    Dave was supposed to be on this trip, then go on to South Bend for Manti’s final home game. “Ferd” took his place.

  24. Last Call November 15, 2012 5:50 am

    It’s difficult to read the whole story Stephen when the greedy owner of the SA hides everything behind a pay wall.

  25. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:50 am

    article said SS is expected to play at some point and we still need him. Chow also emphasized that its not all SS’ fault, WRs run wrong routes and OL dont block.

    i hope Chow will have Higgins’ back like he does SS.

  26. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 5:56 am

    Chow likes Higgins.

    Why would anyone think otherwise?

  27. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:56 am

    do u think Chow would ever fire himself as OC? i hope so.

  28. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 5:58 am

    bc he consistently has SS’ back. sayin its not all his fault.

    yet, he kept mentioning that Higgins’ success has come against 2nd/3rd string players. pls! SS didnt have success against 2nd/3rd string defenses.

  29. mo808 November 15, 2012 5:58 am

    Good Thursday Folks! !

  30. mo808 November 15, 2012 5:59 am

    Great news about Higgins!

  31. mo808 November 15, 2012 5:59 am

    My condolences to Gant Ohana

  32. mo808 November 15, 2012 6:00 am

    Best wishes to JD!

  33. mo808 November 15, 2012 6:01 am

    Get well wishes to Darrius & to Dave Reardon’s mom!

  34. mo808 November 15, 2012 6:02 am

    Okay, folks thats it from me…carry on!

  35. haka November 15, 2012 6:02 am

    good morning to all…even the perpetual cry babies. Waaaaaahhhhhh

  36. lava November 15, 2012 6:07 am

    Looking forward to the broadcast. I hope the tv crew can judge Chow based on what they are watching, and not on his supposed excellent pedigree.

  37. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:14 am

    I feel your pain. I went to Foodland, and they wanted to charge me for groceries. Greedy bastard owners.

  38. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:18 am


    Are you habuts because the offense is struggling or the staff won’t return your emails?

    At least I write back to you.

  39. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 6:21 am

    offense struggling.

    dont really care they dont return my emails lol. im gonna keep flooding their inboxes regardless.

    plus, u didnt respond the 1 time i did email u.

  40. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:26 am

    You should email Rauscher.

  41. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:29 am

    Well, first you need to introduce yourself in the email.

    There are a lot of angry nutjobs out there. Let them know you’re concerned, and that guards don’t screen your mail. If not, after the season I can introduce you.

  42. Shoko November 15, 2012 6:31 am

    Nice write-up on Jordan Wynn about his start and end of his playing career.

  43. Annoddah Dave November 15, 2012 6:32 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    To bad “Wynn” is not Steve…maybe UH Football could get some “casino winnings” to boost the budget a la Phil Knight. But a Wynn is a win if our QBs show marked improvement.

  44. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 6:32 am

    i always introduce myself. and i never email them complaining or being pissed off. just letting them know about recruits. just tryna help, thats all.

    of course, they are coaches and im an internet loser. so they gotta trust their own judgement. i understand.

    i know that JC DB still wants Hawaii. im not sure if theyre close to offering or not, grades might be an issue tho.

  45. Shoko November 15, 2012 6:35 am

    I think Ferd has been the only one I ever emailed when I had a question. Got a quick response which was appreciated.

    Emailed Karl Benson several times. Got one response. He didn’t respond to any subsequent emails. Guess I shouldn’t have started my email with words such incompetent or ineptitude.

  46. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 6:35 am

    Good Morning Gangeez!

    Blessings to JD and his family. Prayers for the Gant ‘Ohana and for Darius Bright.

    Go get ’em Warriors, one and all! May QB1 rock the Birds!


  47. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:37 am

    Suggestions never hurt.

    Somebody once texted me about Veikune. I forwarded the message to Miano. That day Veikune received an offer from Miano.

  48. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 6:38 am

    In Tsai’s defense, he was the first to post on my Facebook Wall. That took a lot of courage.

  49. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 6:40 am

    # 50!


    Maybe she’ll lay


    Head on my


    Maybe old feelings

    Will come throuuuuuuuuuuugh

    Maybe she’ll start to cryyyyy

    And wonder whyyyyy

    We ev-


    Walked away

    Maybe the old songs will bring back the old times

    And make her want to stay

    Ain’t talkin’ ’bout a president with a color in the surname.

    Put on those old 45s, Tsaikos and Tsaikettes

    # # #

  50. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:40 am

    Benson actually is great about responding. Maybe he didn’t get the email. Like how he didn’t the email about eight schools leaving the WAC.

  51. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 6:41 am

    49, then 🙂

  52. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 6:41 am

    But yet I was the eighth person invited to be DPK’s FB friend.

  53. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 6:42 am

    51 (?)

  54. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 6:45 am

    like if we lose out on JC DT David Moala maybe coaches should look at Mt. SAC DT Tutulepeata Mataele.

  55. Shoko November 15, 2012 6:49 am

    50. I think after the second email to Benson, he must have thrown me into the “nutcase” category. But, my opinion of him is old news now.

  56. Shoko November 15, 2012 6:51 am

    If JD doesn’t get the job at CSUF, he could always apply for the soon-to-be-open position at Nevada when Groth leaves her post. I would be in a good word for him, but Ault, also, has categorized me as a nutcase.

  57. koakane i5 November 15, 2012 6:54 am

    😎 morning

    my best to JD, he will be missed a true warrior and bruddah bruddah

  58. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 6:58 am

    That was an error involving imaginary friends, Stephen. What matters is that you came through before the imaginary friends. And I’ll always be greatful.

    Is a Grease crooning so early in the morning?! If so I’ll have what he’s having.

  59. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 7:00 am

    Shoko –

    Ault should know that there are no nutcases on the WB.

  60. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 7:01 am

    If Donovan gets this job, might be the end of Apple.

    No more Manoa Apples.

  61. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 7:07 am

    # 58, DPK, heh, Manilow’s great any time of the day 🙂 . Uh, also, a Grease ain’t like one o’these 7am Union Bar and/or Paradise Lost folk 😉 .

  62. Shoko November 15, 2012 7:10 am

    I’m more borderline nutcase, but I am undergoing treatment as I type. 😉

  63. koakane i5 November 15, 2012 7:13 am

    whoa dpk in da hale, aloha mai hawaiian wad up

  64. HawaiiMongoose November 15, 2012 7:24 am

    Will the bad news ever end for UH this season? Brendan Daley could have helped control AFA’s running offense but gets dropped from the travel roster after showing up late for practice. And Darius Bright gets left behind due to — is anyone here surprised? — yet another injury. As the old SNL skit goes, “it’s always something.”

    No wonder UH has more first-time starters than any other team in the country, as Ferd mentions in his column. And it’s not even close. Chow needs to go find a kahuna to bless this program; one who has some real pull with the powers-that-be.

  65. Veridenst schnell gesteigert November 15, 2012 7:47 am

    Hello, ich habe hier ein Tool / Skript entdeckt, welches die Kontext-Reklame fuer alle total vereinfacht. Ich bin bewegt, welche Chancen durch dieses Dienstprogramm gegeben sind und was es an meinem Profit veraendert hat. Ich bin jetzt total weg von Adsense und Co. Die Verdienste fahre ich mit dem Dienstprogramm ein. Mein Umsatz ist um das 14Fache gestiegen. Einfach grossartig! Aber schaut selbst!

  66. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 7:53 am

    Borderline nutcase is OK. Angry nutcase not so much.

  67. kev-1 November 15, 2012 7:55 am

    I don’t necessarily think Chow dislikes Higgins. But he is very quick to defend SS and cast blame on others. Now to Chow’s credit, he doesn’t say names when he says people ran wrong routes, etc.

    It just seems like Higgins has more stacked against him in terms of Chow’s support just because of how much he defends Schroeder. Again, as fans on a blog, we only see and here so much.

    I have said before, and this is purely opinion, I think Chow’s ego will get in the way of him necessarily wanting to see outright success from another QB. Yes, I know that may sound ridiculous and jaded. I do think he will be happy for another QB personally for doing a good job, but the “I told you so” that will follow will undermine his stark defense of “his guy” that he held on to for too long.

    Ultimately it is about the wins, but it will be a tough one for Chow’s ego to swallow. By the way, we all have egos, so it is not a stab at the coach.

  68. Jun Tao November 15, 2012 7:58 am

    we can only hope that the other players are inspired by the change of personel at QB. I think you’ll see players step their games up against AFA.

  69. kev-1 November 15, 2012 8:02 am

    sorry, that should have said “we only see and hear so much”

  70. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 8:02 am

    ^ i agree. i think we will see re-newed energy w this team, now that Higgins is the starter. nothing against Schroeder, sometimes change is needed to shake things up.

    i think UH might cover the spread tomorrow now.

  71. RedZone November 15, 2012 8:03 am

    My condolences to Gant Ohana

  72. RedZone November 15, 2012 8:15 am

    Even number one team has to fight thru injury problems.

  73. Annoddah Dave November 15, 2012 8:23 am

    ST & Tsaiko Blog Dogs:

    I hope the concert thing is not a deal breaker for JD.

  74. kev-1 November 15, 2012 8:37 am

    73 . . . I know right? I wonder what kind of recommendation he would too. There has got to be a lot of bad feelings between so many people involved in that mess.

  75. Rodney November 15, 2012 8:47 am

    Good luck Jeremy !!!!!

    You deserve a shot.

    Coaches good luck!!!

    SS keep your head up!!

    Hawaii 31 Air Force 30

    Imua warriors!

    Play smart,play hard,play fast

    Ball security!!!!!!!!!!!!

  76. kev-1 November 15, 2012 8:49 am

    UH 20 AFA 13

  77. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 8:59 am

    Aloha kakahiaka to you too, koakane!

  78. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 9:01 am

    I was making predictions all season long bout the score… now, all I can say is, Ainokea who start or any other drama. Just win Warriors!!! And I DO believe we’ll win tomorrow.

  79. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 9:10 am

    So here’s the deal:

    In spring training and training camp, Higgins was not very good. He had difficulty with the velocity of his passes. Scrimmages, drills — a lot of passes were picked off or deflected.

    But Higgins kept working and working, and now he’s way better. Could he have played earlier? No. He wasn’t the player then that he is now.

    Cayman Shutter had one week of spring training and was suspended for the first three games. So he was way behind. Now he’s worked hard, has a grasp of the offense and is much improved. But he was just way behind.

    David Graves, as we’ve said before, trained for an offense that no longer exists. He really, really struggled to learn the offense, and that impacted his decision making, which impacted his performance. They handed him the No. 1 job in the spring, but he struggled too much to keep it. Higgins actually was ahead of Graves after spring training, but they decided label them as co-No. 1s to provide motivation for Graves during the summer.

    Now can he get better? Of course. But there was a lot to overcome.

    Anyway, Chow likes all of them, and he’s quick to defend each of the quarterbacks.

    I have cutups of every game, and it’s not a lie when somebody says there are breakdowns in routes and protection. Chow also has been critical of Schroeder for holding the ball too long.

    I’ve talked to Chow at least once a day, often more, for 11 months. I know he likes his players. I know he likes his quarterbacks.

  80. SteveM November 15, 2012 9:16 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Sympathies to the Gant ohana.

    Best wishes to Reardon’s mom!

  81. Independent Thinker November 15, 2012 9:19 am


    If Higgins and SS play

    AF 28, UH 24

    If Higgins only

    AF 24, UH 28

  82. koakane November 15, 2012 9:22 am

    #67 kev-1 😯

  83. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 9:24 am

    Stephen Tsai:

    November 15th, 2012 at 9:10 am

    So here’s the deal:

    In spring training and training camp, Higgins was not very good. He had difficulty with the velocity of his passes. Scrimmages, drills — a lot of passes were picked off or deflected.

    But Higgins kept working and working, and now he’s way better. Could he have played earlier? No. He wasn’t the player then that he is now.

    Cayman Shutter had one week of spring training and was suspended for the first three games. So he was way behind. Now he’s worked hard, has a grasp of the offense and is much improved. But he was just way behind.

    David Graves, as we’ve said before, trained for an offense that no longer exists. He really, really struggled to learn the offense, and that impacted his decision making, which impacted his performance. They handed him the No. 1 job in the spring, but he struggled too much to keep it. Higgins actually was ahead of Graves after spring training, but they decided label them as co-No. 1s to provide motivation for Graves during the summer.

    Now can he get better? Of course. But there was a lot to overcome.

    Anyway, Chow likes all of them, and he’s quick to defend each of the quarterbacks.

    I have cutups of every game, and it’s not a lie when somebody says there are breakdowns in routes and protection. Chow also has been critical of Schroeder for holding the ball too long.

    I’ve talked to Chow at least once a day, often more, for 11 months. I know he likes his players. I know he likes his quarterbacks.

    This is the kind of thing we should study from this board.

  84. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 9:24 am

    79. I understand a lot of it isn’t Schroeder’s fault. But after taking his hits, you can see how his accuracy dips a lot as the hits get to him. Whether he does the best in practice or not, it’s not leading to points in the “game”. Most of the fans complaints which are very fair is that you need to give the next guy in line a chance. I think it has taken a little long but at least Higgins is getting a chance now. I don’t care who it is that is being given the shot but sometimes a change is needed. Maybe it will light a fire in teammates or give some confidence in them but continuous 3 and outs and turn overs just aren’t going to cut it.

  85. Independent Thinker November 15, 2012 9:24 am

    Yes!! This is the first time all season where I am actually looking forward to watching the game. There is HOPE! Yeah!!

  86. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 9:29 am

    im sure there are miscues in blocking and routes. i just hope Chow will have Higgins’ back like he does for Schroeder. so far, all weve heard is hes did well BUT not against 1st team defenses. seems like hes discrediting Higgins’ production and making excuses for Schroeder’s lack of production.

  87. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 9:29 am

    One thing is for sure when Higgins was on the field. Whether or not it was 1st, 2nd, or 3rd team, you noticed a sense of urgency on offense and the tempo of the game was 100x better.

    1st half it seemed like offense was just moving at a slow no tempo pace.

  88. mikey November 15, 2012 9:39 am

    Yes there is hope with change but a little to late for this season.

    Hope there will be better showing on final national TV at mile hight stadium.

    Come back home with momentum to final home stand against UNLV with military night and New UA Uniform and win the final 2 home games.

    Go Warriors!

  89. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 9:40 am

    I think there are a lot of constructive comments here.

    But the one thing for UH supporters is this is your team, your players, your hanai family.

    So while you might or might not like a player’s performance, it’s a good reminder these are young men trying to do their best.

    In other words, dislike the performance, not the performer.

  90. mikey November 15, 2012 9:42 am

    Hope there be better turn-out than 400 walk-up sale vs. BSU

    UNLV should be at least a + 4,000 walk in sale.

  91. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 9:43 am

    The other thing is Air Force, no doubt, has practiced for the possibility of Higgins starting.

    I’ve seen QBs like Shawn Withy-Allen, Jason Wieldon and Shane Austin do well in sub roles, but not as great when the other team has more time to prepare for them.

    So if Higgins were to struggle, that doesn’t mean he’s not a good quarterback. It probably means he’s facing an aggressive defense, on the road, in the freakin’ cold.

  92. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 9:43 am

    #79 +1, hopefully this will stop some of the assumptions people have made on this blog that are really out there …. or at least make them think before they post …

  93. Tommui November 15, 2012 9:46 am

    #92 wowlaulau

    To dream the impossible dream …

    Aren’t you asking the impossible? 🙂

  94. LizKauai November 15, 2012 9:47 am

    Aloha Kakahiaka!

    Warmest aloha to the Gant Ohana.

    Healing Energy to all who ail… esp DR’s mom.

    All the best to Jim Donovan… Good Luck. To us, well, you don’t know what you’ve got til it’s gone…

    Here’s to the Warriors and to ST who holds down the fort… if we pay attention.

    Congrats to Ulu Matagiese – new Wahine Softballer!


  95. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 9:48 am

    no one is really bashing players. moreso Chow’s stubborness to give Higgins a chance. hell, Higgins should have been given a chance earlier, just so Schroeder could get a rest from the beating he takes every game. 1 things for sure, hes a tough mofo.

  96. LizKauai November 15, 2012 9:49 am


    28-24 LizKauai

  97. Nanakuli November 15, 2012 9:49 am

    You never know what will happen in football. How many upsets every week in the NFL, colleges, and even high school games. With Higgins we might surprise Air Force. First play the cadet QB might get a concussion, and AF second QB could have 6 turnovers.

  98. mikey November 15, 2012 9:49 am

    Perfomance put out by our coaching staff have been difficulty Dismal.

    Especially on defense with 60 plus points given up by 3rd quarter is

  99. kifi November 15, 2012 9:51 am

    Wow, I didn’t know that Longtime UH Fan’s grandson was such a good baseball player? Good to see him sign the dotted line for Trepasso yesterday. I can see Longtime smiling from ear to ear.

  100. LizKauai November 15, 2012 9:51 am

    And btw- the price of the online S-A is very reasonable. Especially if you live don’t live on Oahu and even better if you are outside of Hawaii!

  101. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 9:55 am

    I think I’ve covered why Higgins didn’t play earlier.

  102. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 9:55 am

    #95, case in point … an assumption, not anything new though the same was said about Mack and June

  103. kifi November 15, 2012 9:57 am

    Condolences to Chris Gant and his family.

  104. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 9:58 am

    we werent even in games by halftime in many games this season, it could have been a time for Schroeder to rest his health, see the game from a different perspective and the backup QBs to get live game reps.

    thats my argument.

  105. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:02 am

    The point you made was this ” moreso Chow’s stubborness to give Higgins a chance. hell, Higgins should have been given a chance earlier, just so Schroeder could get a rest from the beating he takes every game”

    The assumption you made was that this did not happen because of chow’s stubbornness. Read #79 again, ST explained why Higgins did not play earlier.

  106. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:02 am

    Here’s my two cents: If you’re going to get hit, get hit past the line of scrimmage.

  107. Rodney November 15, 2012 10:03 am

    #wish you would of mentioned this sooner.

    It makes sense.I too get feeling chow loves

    and protects his players.They seem to love

    playing for him.In any other program and with

    a record like ours their would be all kinds of

    grumbles,finger pointing and chaos. Their

    attitudes and the way they behave in and

    out of class room says a ton for Coach

    Leadership.I hear kids go to classes and the

    professors respect the coach .Thanks ST

    great info!!!!!!!!!!!!!! N

  108. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:04 am

    so higgins was so not ready to the point we couldnt even put him in the game when we were down by 40+ points? and run some decent offensive plays to give him reps?

    please, higgins got playing time as a true freshmanat Utah State. im sure he could handle a little bit of live action 2 years later.

  109. SteveM November 15, 2012 10:05 am

    RE: JD’s Cal State Fullerton Application

    While I would hate to see Jim Donovan leave Hawaii for a while, my first impression was that he does not need Greenwood’s half-hearted ad hoc golden parachute job position. Whether he gets the Cal State Fullerton position or not, it is a good “statement” on his part.

    Well wishes for him whether he stays or goes!

  110. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:05 am

    On the flight here, they announced that military personnel could board first.

    Let’s see, a flight to Colorado Springs, home of the Air Force Academy.

    Everybody not name Stephen or “Ferd” was able to board.

  111. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:06 am


    I find it interesting that you’re getting your wish that Higgins is playing, but yet you’re still griping?

    Think you should rename yourself Let-it-go.

  112. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:11 am

    my griping was only w Chow showing a little more faith in Higgins, as far as public comments go. iwas actually done w the whole Schroeder rant but then u brought up why the other QBs didnt play earlier in the season. thats probably what Chow told u, but IMO, those are weak excuses.

    practice reps only gonna get u so far. u need live game reps, maybe that could have speed up Higgins development process.

    watever tho, ill just shutup already and watch chow kill our program/fanbase one game at a time by putting out crap product every week.

  113. Jeezy33 November 15, 2012 10:11 am

    111. Lol classic

  114. Rodney November 15, 2012 10:12 am

    So Higgins wasn’t ready yet.Not grasp O

    and need little more work in stepping into

    the throw( velocity )He is a palms up thrower!

    Graves just couldn’t grasp the offense tried

    and tried but could get it down.Shutter way

    behind.Got it Thank you ST for explanation!!

  115. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:13 am

    1 last thing, my actual wish would have been fro Graves to play QB. so i wont even go there. my wish is not for Higgins to play, but the way Chow is currently handling the team and certain situations.

  116. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:14 am

    shutup jeezy33.

  117. helencalif November 15, 2012 10:14 am

    In a recent practice Graves scored 5 TDs against the first string defense. Were you at that practice, ST ?

  118. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:17 am


    I wasn’t offering any extraordinary explanation.

    Schroeder was ahead because he had background in the offense. Higgins admittedly had trouble making some throws. Now he can wing it. Now he’s playing.

    For everyone who wishes Higgins would play, now he’s going to play. I hope he does well because he’s a terrific person; plus, he comes from a great family.

    Schroeder is a hard-working good guy, too.

  119. Kevin November 15, 2012 10:17 am

    UH Softball Signs 4 for the Spring 2014.

    HONOLULU—University of Hawai’i head softball coach Bob Coolen announced the signing of four prep standouts who will play for the Rainbow Wahine in the spring of 2014. Brittany Hitchcock, Gaylan “Ulu” Matagiese, Heather Morales, and Lindsey Willmon all signed National Letters of Intent to play for the Rainbow Wahine this week during the early signing period.

    Hitchcock is a 5-11 pitcher from Westminster, Calif. who is currently a senior at Ocean View High School in Huntington Beach. She has been a first-team all-league player the past three seasons with the Seahawks. Last season, she went 14-6 with a 0.95 ERA in 21 appearances. She tossed five shutouts with 133 strike outs to just 31 walks in 132.2 innings pitched. Hitchcock also hit .411 as a junior (30-for-85) with 17 runs scored and 21 RBI on the season. As a junior, she earned her second Goldenwest League Pitcher of the Year honor while also earning first-team all-CIF Division 4 honors. She has also done well in the classroom, earning scholar-athlete awards for the past two seasons.

    “Brittany is a strong down-ball pitcher with good off-speed pitches.” says Coolen. “She will be expected to step right into the rotation and will only get stronger in college.”

    Matagiese is a versatile 5-6 athlete who UH will be looking to play three positions—outfield, third base, or catcher. As a Waimea High School junior last year, she hit .679 (38-for-56) with four doubles and six home runs. She also scored 31 runs with 34 RBI and 10 stolen bases. She helped lead Menehune to the DII state championship title and was named Co-Most Valuable Player of the tournament. She has earned all-league honors all three seasons. Matagiese won the home run derby at the USA PREPS Showcase Camp in Palm Desert Calif. earlier this year and has played in several mainland tournaments—as well as the Prague Tournament Cup in the Czech Republic. Her brother, Siasau, is currently a junior defensive lineman for the UH football team and she is a cousin of All-American Jessica Iwata. She is the fourth player from Waimea to play softball for the Rainbow Wahine—including associate head coach Dee Wisneski, Laynie Sueyasu and Ali Rapanot.

    “Ulu has a very strong bat and has really blossomed as a hitter. She has home run potential and has great knowledge of the game,” says Coolen.

    Morales is a 5-8 power pitcher out of Indio High School in Indio, Calif. Last year as a junior she posted an 11-5 record with a .069 ERA and 117 strike outs in 81 innings pitched. At the plate she has been a juggernaut on offense, she hit .479 (46-for-96) with 40 runs scored with a team-high 62 RBI with 11 doubles and 20 home runs. Morales has earned first team, all-league accolades for the past three seasons and was the MVP of the league this past season. This past season, she was named to two all-tournament teams and was selected as an ESPN Cal State Athlete of the Week.

    “As a pitcher, Heather has command of a variety of pitches in her arsenal. She can throw a rise, drop, curve, and change,” explain Coolen. “She is very agile and versatile player who will hit for herself as a pitcher and can hit at the No. 4-to-No. 8 spot in the lineup.”

    Willmon is a 5-8 catcher/third baseman out of Pleasant Grove High School in Elk Grove, Calif. She hit .448 (30-for-67) as a junior with 23 RBI. She also had three doubles, three triples and eight home runs on the season for a .940 slugging percentage for the Eagles. Willmon has been a three-time all-league selection; two-time all-city pick; and was last year’s Most Valuable Player for Pleasant Grove.

    “Lindsey has a strong arm and calls a good game and was the catcher for Hitchcock on the SoCal Choppers club team,” says Coolen. “She also plays a solid third base and has a strong bat. She is a confident player who is versatile and can be a power hitter.”

  120. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:19 am

    Yes, I was at that practice. I’m usually the only non-UH person at every practice.

    Graves ran the Air Force offense, and did well. He did a lot of good research and nailed the cadence. He’s a good guy, good player.

  121. helencalif November 15, 2012 10:21 am

    Since Bright won’t be playing wideout, who is taking his place ?

  122. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:22 am

    good debate tsai. maybe ill see u tomorrow.

  123. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:23 am

    Gant was supposed to start.

    But he was very close to his grandfather and, from what I heard, very devastated by the loss.

    He spent the night with his family.

    Football is a game, and this is real life, so I hope he doesn’t suffer too much. Gant’s a good guy.

  124. postmanke November 15, 2012 10:25 am

    I really would pay too much attention to getting a grasp of the offense in choosing a starter. When 70% of your completetions are not as drawn up give me someone athletic. The mesh is being covered and the digs are being checked. you gotta roll and throw! I’d go to the Grave with that!

  125. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:26 am

    Let-it-go, ST gave you his explanation after being at the practice, you have given your opinion based on the fact you don;t like how Chow is handling this situation …. You have made your point … LET-IT-GO

  126. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:26 am

    ST #79 . . . I appreciate that explanation. Like I said, fans only hear and see so much.

  127. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:26 am


    I’m a Jets fan and I think Mark Sanchez sucks. Now if Tebow were to start, instead of ripping on Rex Ryan for taking so long to make a change, I would be like: Go, Timmy, go.

    By the way, what I find amusing is that both you and Jeezy recommend players who already are on UH’s lists. So I guess you, Jeezy and the coaches do think alike.

    Of course, asking Santa for a present and actually getting it are two different things. I’m an old man, and I’ve learned you can’t get everything on the wish list. But it doesn’t mean you can’t keep wishing.

  128. helencalif November 15, 2012 10:26 am

    My heart goes out to Gant who has lost his grandfather. ST, you are right. Football is a game; family is family. The loss of a beloved grandfather is a hard hit.

  129. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:28 am

    I just root for close games.

    It’s hard to write blowout stories, no matter which side is doing the pounding.

  130. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:30 am

    Some people own some really high horses. Is it cold up there wowlaulau?

  131. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:31 am


    As you well know, everybody likes Graves.

    I’m glad I don’t have to make these choices. I would be like the Hawaii Baptist basketball coach. I’d have three units, and they’d sub out every three minutes.

  132. Old School Dave November 15, 2012 10:33 am

    I heard something about the Utah State coaches changed Jeremy Higgins throwing motion his freshman year there, and it affected the velocity of his passes. He seems to have corrected that problem with the help of his high school coach Vinnie Passas.

    Didn’t Derek Tatsuno also have the same thing happen to him when he went to play pro ball in Japan? His throwing motion was all messed and Coach Les realized that the minute he saw Tatsuno throw up there. The coaches in Japan are like gods there. Gotta listen or else you have to slit your opu.

  133. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:33 am

    Since I don’t own a horse not sure what you are talking about and it is not my problem if people who like to criticize can’t take some of it in return …

  134. Rodney November 15, 2012 10:34 am

    ST. Mahalo

    Appreciated it any way!

    And all that you do too!!!

  135. jm2375 November 15, 2012 10:36 am

    Good morning Tsaikos!

    Condolences to Chris Gant and family.

    ST – thanks for the explanation on the QBs.

    Now, people, can we dispense with all the negativity? Enuf already!

    Think I’ll be at the SSC for, oh maybe, 7 or 8 hrs tomorrow. Anyone else? First game at 2 is worth the price of admission for all 3 games. I’ll dvr the fb game and try to keep up with that and the volleyball game at the same time.

    *My head stay spinning already*

  136. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:38 am

    wowlaulau . . . I’m just criticizing you for criticing people that criticize others. Its okay, you can criticize me too if you like. 🙂

  137. Old School Dave November 15, 2012 10:38 am

    Finish the season at 4-8. Something to build upon for 2013. Still get chance!!

  138. jm2375 November 15, 2012 10:39 am




  139. LizKauai November 15, 2012 10:40 am


    Safe travels, ST and Ferd…


  140. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:41 am

    People are who they are, some are complainers and some are doers.

    In my opinion, if you are a complainer than be a doer also because people who complain but don’t take action are just whiners….

  141. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:41 am

    Old School:

    Yes, they thought he was throwing with too much of a side-armed motion. So they taped a padding below his arm pit to prevent him from dropping his arm. It messed up his throw. I’m surprised he didn’t develop a stutter; isn’t that what happens to lefties who are forced to write with their right hand?

    Anyway, a few sessions with the QB Doc — Vince Passas — and Higgins is good to go.

  142. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:42 am


    We have arrived.

    And we’re eating our cookies.

  143. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:44 am

    yeah so just keep complaining about me complaining. im sorry but i dont have the power to make changes to Chow’s style.

  144. Stephen Tsai November 15, 2012 10:45 am

    Free WiFi, free cookies, free coffee.

    Too bad we have to go out in the cold and watch practice.

  145. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:48 am


  146. Kapahulu November 15, 2012 10:48 am

    Glad to hear (but not surprised) that Graves handled the option offense well.

    I always thought that with UH having trouble scoring in the Red Zone, they should be using Graves in goal line situations. The defense wouldn’t know if he would hand the ball off, throw it or run it in himself. He did it last year! We should be using all the weapons in our arsenal. It would also force the opposing teams to try and prepare for it and also give out team an emotional lift.

  147. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 10:49 am

    stop complaining about our redzone offense and do something about it instead. damn whiner.

  148. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:57 am

    NOT liking the fact that our 1st team defense gave up 5 TDs to Graves in practice while he was running the AFA offense. I hope they got that fixed.

  149. haka November 15, 2012 10:58 am

    speaking of horses, some people just can’t win, in fact, the only thing they can beat is a dead horse

  150. al November 15, 2012 11:01 am

    congratulations jeremy!

    i am sure that mom(Anne) and dad ( Jim) are just beaming with pride and anticipation. woohoo!

    now with little tayler soon to become the fourth of the Higgins to play d1 athletics to go along with brothers cameron, zach, and jeremy, many will that just amazing. and there’s more, little bro parker will probably follow in their footsteps. i am sure some writer should be doing a feature on this true to life story.

    and yes the apple don’t fall too far from the tree. jim did play for the warriors and wife anne was a star athlete at sacred hearts.

    go jeremy!

  151. Will-I-Am November 15, 2012 11:03 am

    I am so excited that Higgins is starting. I hope he does well.

    As far as SS, I think he is just not clicking. He has taken beatings this year and I feel for him. I think he is a great person and I hope he gets some rest to recover from all the beatings. If he does come back that would be great if he can move the ball.

    Bottom line for me is getting touchdowns and not turning the ball over.

  152. al November 15, 2012 11:04 am

    kifi…you beat me to the punch.

    I am sure that grandpa ltuh fan is smiling and telling all in heaven.

    and grandma lorna too!

    way to go bryce!

  153. Former UH Athlete November 15, 2012 11:07 am

    Higgins gets his shot… Hopefully he can get the offense moving, but I don’t see much improvement other than it’s fresh meat for defenders to tee off on.

    If the Oline can’t protect and the WRs can’t get open, it doesn’t really matter who’s at QB. Chow hasn’t been able to call many 7 or 9 step drops, and 12-17 yard routes because the line hasn’t been able to give the time for longer developing plays to work.

    In any case, I think UH has a chance to win, not because of QB play, but by running the ball. Air Force’s run defense has been porous. UNLV ran the ball all over Air Force. Air Force ranks #109 in run defense this year and gives up nearly 5 yards/carry. UH should be able to run it up and down the field with Gregory/Iosefa/Lister.

    The defense will probably get cut up vs the option again, but if they can win the turnover battle, and can hold Air Force to FGs in the red zone, I think they pull off the upset.

    Being the optimist: UH wins 28-27 and the game ends 20 minutes early on it’s 3 hr time block on ESPN2.

  154. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 11:11 am

    didnt know Gregory was playing against AFA.

  155. Jeezy33 November 15, 2012 11:16 am

    Hope that means Garrett Marino is on the radar.. Powell actually responded to me about him

  156. Independent Thinker November 15, 2012 11:17 am

    letsgo, you are outnumbered and outgunned, my brother, time to let it go. You can’t bring a kitchen knife to a gun battle. All the shallow, wisecracking fools are at it again, and you can’t win. Fight another day, my brother.

  157. RedZone November 15, 2012 11:19 am

    ST da Beeman got Ricketts from the softball team but recently said after the last game that they were having problems with the guards. UH has a really good guard playing 2nd base. Just saying.

  158. LizKauai November 15, 2012 11:25 am

    Love these multiple sport athletes!

  159. Independent Thinker November 15, 2012 11:27 am

    mr. chow:

    How can you have any pudding if you don’t eat your meat?…If you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding!!!

  160. Independent Thinker November 15, 2012 11:28 am


  161. Kevin November 15, 2012 11:28 am


    Yes, I have heard Zamora is quite the baller on the court.

  162. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 11:31 am

    157, the only person against me is wowlaulau who somehow thinks hes a moderator on here. i was having my daily discussion w tsai. he knows who i am, so if he really does have a problem w my posts, he can either delete them or email me directly.

    im sure wowlaulau will reply and complain aabout me complaining then tell me to Let it go.

  163. Jeezy33 November 15, 2012 11:36 am

    157. Problem here is St runs the blog and shares his opinion.. People on this board will listen to that opinion as if it were the final say like its a fact .. I agree with ST assessments on the QBs. Disagree on how long it took to make a move.. Move has been made so over with. But if you don’t agree with st, the rest of the posters think you don’t know what you’re talking about. And those posters know who they are.

  164. helencalif November 15, 2012 11:37 am

    #154. Former UH Athlete said: “If the Oline can’t protect and the WRs can’t get open, it doesn’t really matter who’s at QB.”

    I disagree with you. It does matter who the QB is and what he can do when the pocket falls apart or the receivers aren’t free. A quick thinking and very mobile QB can scramble and get yardage. A robotic QB gets no yardage or will lose yardage. You gotta get those downs and keep the offense in the game.

    The QB matters. He is the key player in the game.

  165. Slugger November 15, 2012 11:38 am

    Pau LAN-Chow-ah at Masa’s…oxtail soup.

    Hope Reardon’sMom gets better soon.

    Catch ya laters…

    Kekoa, found out Ian went to Puget Sound! My niece is their libero.

  166. cocobean November 15, 2012 11:40 am

    Air Force is beatable.

    I don’t expect HIggins to perform Roy Hobbs like feats just hopes he’s the catalyst that inspires his team mates to get off the snide. Every position on both sides of the ball has to pickup their game, quit making mental errors and do what you’re suppose to do on any given play.

    He has to show he’s capable of doing his job, inspire others that they’re capable to doing theirs. Lead, lead, lead.

    Physical mistakes willl happen. Show the team a way to overcome them.

  167. kitsunegari November 15, 2012 11:42 am

    A quick thinking and mobile QB with a weak offensive line can also get spied on by a LB or a safety.

  168. Candy November 15, 2012 11:55 am

    Best of luck to Jeremy Higgins. I hope the team can rally behind him and give a little extra effort in protecting and getting open. He can’t be a miracle man we’ve been looking for without plenty of support, offense, defense, and ST. It will be good to see an extra effort from everyone.

  169. A-House November 15, 2012 12:05 pm

    Is everyone or nearly everyone waiting for TG next year at QB? Does Chow share this opinion?

    One BIG thing in his favor is his height at 6’3″ which is the proto-typical size that Chow has been around recently. Maybe that’s the reason he likes SS so much.

    Personally, I like the new commit Zwahlen, but he must put on some muscles Russell! Did some one post that he will “red-shirt” in 2013-14, then go on his “mission” for 2 years and then return to UH in 2016? Wonder how “rusty” he will be and his physical condition?

  170. Manoa#1 November 15, 2012 12:07 pm

    graves scored 5 TD against the 1st D…. oh boy air force O is gonna double that. graves brother who plays for air force should be able to score some too.

    Falcons – 58 Warriors – 10

  171. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 12:08 pm

    I’ve disagreed with LetsGo — and verbally beefed with him — more often than not, but his points are valid in my opinion and trying to squelch the debate is ridiculous. Even if SS is the man and Higgs wasn’t ready, what is wrong with giving minutes to someone else in a 59-3 blowout?

  172. d1shima November 15, 2012 12:10 pm

    Thanks for the QB rundown, Stephen.

    Your assessment jives with my recollection of the coupla spring practices I witnessed.

  173. d1shima November 15, 2012 12:11 pm

    ….not that you need (or value) validation. 😉

  174. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 12:12 pm

    Condolences to Chris Gant and family.

    Get well, D. Bright and D. Reardon’s maddah. 🙂

  175. d1shima November 15, 2012 12:12 pm

    Take the cookies, leave the wi-fi….

  176. d1shima November 15, 2012 12:14 pm

    ….without help from an OL, a quick, mobile QB is still just a target.

  177. Jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:15 pm

    172. Exactly … Chow is encountering the same issue trapasso had with baseball team.. U have one guy batting 190 and one guy batting 205. 205 guy ain’t coming up with hits so eventually gotta give the 190 guy a chance to get some hits to light a spark ..

    Like it or not, we have a bunch of below average d1 qbs .. One guy not cutting it then next guy needs to light spark …

    We will see what happens Friday and hope Higgins can put some points on board and at very least give our defense some rest

  178. Jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:17 pm

    177. I don’t know if you watch nfl very often but qbs like Big Ben, jay cutler , and Aaron Rodgers do not have good o line play. as the qb, u need to make an adjustment . SS needs to at the very least know when to tuck and run , use feet to buy time, or throw it away a lot quicker..

  179. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 12:18 pm

    And let me just say once and for all: Graves is a baller. He may not be pretty and he may not stay in system all the time, but he makes plays. He has that fire and that never say die attitude that makes him a natural leader. Guys would play for him, whereas I don’t necessarily see that with SS. That’s not a knock on SS. The ability to inspire others is something you’re born with or not.

    And even if Graves is not the guy for QB, he should be getting reps at wideout because he’s got everything there too, speed and hands. I realize we are not running wide open anymore, but why is it considered a good thing that we are using tight ends as slotbacks? Yeah, the D is packing the box so let’s put in another possession receiver so they have even less fear of us going up top.

  180. kitsunegari November 15, 2012 12:22 pm

    Some people need validation no matter how much they say they hate the people here or how much the blog is a problem. Maybe daddy or mommy never hugged them enough when they were kids?

  181. Bigislandkurt November 15, 2012 12:24 pm

    Excuses are tools of incompetence

    Used to build monuments of nothingness

    Those who specialize in excuses are seldom capable of anything else.


  182. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 12:24 pm

    The point of having a more mobile QB isn’t necessarily to take off down the field. I’m not expecting Scam Newton. But having a QB who can feel the rush and slide to avoid it can help extend drives.

  183. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 12:25 pm

    Higgins is not the savior, the season is already lost. It’s just nice and finally time to give this horrendous offense a new leader to move the ball. Can Higgins move the ball effectively, we shall see. Does he give us a better chance to put the football in the endzone, I think so. He’s led some nice scoring drives and has been looking pretty accurate spreading the ball around nicely, which helps everyone the OLine, receivers, etc… Against 2nd team defenses, who cares, Schroeder’s been up against 2nd team defenses in the second half the whole season and still hasn’t proven he can get the ball moving in the right direction. Higgins does not throw the prettiest ball or has the quickest feet but his moxy and pocket presence helps everyone out, something Schroeder has yet to prove this season. Not saying Higgins is the better QB but he does have a better understanding during game situations to get the ball moving down field. Regardless I hope they both do well enough in the game to pull out a win. Never expecting miracles just respectable play and some kind of improvement in getting the ball into the dayum endzone!

  184. Moocher November 15, 2012 12:29 pm

    too funny…..

    tsai can explain why higgins did not start and people will still say higgins should’ve started earlier???

    people really don’t get it sometimes. instead of thinking it through they want to blame or fabricate really stupid things. seems to me they think chow is stuck is on the past when its really the opposite? chow has moved on but seems like a few fans have not…who’s really being stubborn?

    I personally wanted norwood, but i’m fine with chow. its sad that emotions are causing so much grief and misunderstandings of a man who will develop fine young men. i think chow is misunderstood because his experience is another level from us average joes.

    be patient as chow rebuilds. you gotta remember, every building starts with digging a hole in the ground to give it structure and foundation for years to come. yes we’re in the hole but we’ll rise up.


    thanks for clearing it up ST.

  185. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:36 pm

    185. typical proof of what I said. If ST states his opinion, then that is the FINAL ANSWER. It’s an opinion. Yes SS looked a lot better than Higgins in pre season. But when SS hands Colorado ST the game on a platter, that should have been a turning point in which Chow should have thought about putting in a new QB.

    Not finding the end zone often is one thing. But to give points to the other team is not acceptable.

    Can u explain to me how Chow has moved on? Or does ST need to answer that for u too?

  186. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 12:40 pm

    What’s also funny is everyone thinking Taylor Graham is like Peyton Manning. When was the last time this dude played a real football game? He’s been injured more often than not. He may seem like the prototypical guy with the rocket arm or what have you but dude hasn’t been under the lights in how long already? I would hope this guy is a baller as everyone thinks, but I will hold judgement until this dude actually plays a game. I’m with A-House in thinking that the kid Zwahlen looks promising. He’s killing it this year in Cali and seems like he could be special. I would hope that he would make the decision to wait to go on a mission since it seems our QB’s aren’t up to par. Just hope he holds true to his commitment and signs the dotted line.

  187. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 12:42 pm

    ^ true, id like to see Zwahlen compete as a true frosh. we’ll see if Chow opens up the competition though.

  188. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:43 pm

    187. I agree with u. TG has the tools and he is one big dude. Bigger than some of our DEs. But some thinking he is going to be our savior are pretty naive… Going to take him time to develop. Also we dont know what kind of weapons we will have on offense.

    Almost reminds me of how everyone here thought the SAI brothers were gonna come in and dominate since one was at Utah and other HAD a offer to Utah that got pulled late.

  189. kev-1 November 15, 2012 12:44 pm

    I appreciate ST’s breakdown of the QB situation too, but that doesn’t make it doctrine. People are still allowed to have their opinions.

  190. kev-1 November 15, 2012 12:45 pm

    LGW . . . no can. Zwahlen going on a mission.

  191. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:45 pm

    190. Seriously….. ST could make some of these fans believe anything if he really wanted to.

  192. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 12:47 pm

    191 previously the plan was for him to come in true frosh year then go on mission after that. idk if plans changed. even if he still plans on goin on a mission, id like to see him compete for the starting QB job his first year here. he can always redshirt his first season back from the mission, while his body gets back into playing shape.

  193. gobows November 15, 2012 12:48 pm

    #179 are there any other solutions for ss. because there are 3 things that he can’t do: know when to tuck it and run, use his feet to buy time, and throw it away to avoid a sack. but keep in mind that his receivers are making mistakes in their routes and the o line continues to have breakdowns in their protection (which i wonder what is the purpose for the “on line” tight end).

  194. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 12:48 pm

    ST’s breakdown may explain why SS has remained the starter. But it does NOT explain why no one else has gotten any minutes in this string of blow outs. I’m a stubborn guy (can you tell?) but even I know that if a strategy has failed over and over, it’s time to try a new strategy.

  195. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 12:50 pm


    I don’t think ST feels that way about what he says. I think for the most part with him being at just about every practice and getting the inside scoops from coaches and players, he does have more of a true insight of what’s really going on. The fact though that when certain individuals state their opinion or assessment and they have their personal bandwagon cheerleaders is what’s funny.

  196. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:51 pm

    194. Strong points. But if WRs arent running correct routes, which I dont have the answer to, that falls on the coaches. We are over half way through the season and that shouldnt be a game to game issue. That’s almost as pathetic as our special teams break downs last year.

    2nd string or not, it did seem like Higgins had chemistry with his WRs and when guys werent open, he at least gained positive yardage up the middle. His long release is a concern though as it lead to 1 fumble.

  197. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 12:52 pm

    luckily for Graham, he gets to be on the sidelines during games. does Woolsey have this luxury too?

  198. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 12:54 pm

    196. Which is why I respect ST opinions. If people state observations, that is one thing. But when people base everything on what ST says, it’s a little ridiculous. He may see one thing. I may see another. Where we may differ in opinions is that I don’t take too much into account on how a player looks at practice if he is not performing in the game. I like Miah, but he hasn’t been consistent at all this year. Just because he practices well doesn’t mean he is making plays in the game. A change has been made I noticed. He isn’t on the field as often. So if that applies to WRs, it should apply to all positions including QB.

  199. gobows November 15, 2012 12:56 pm

    #195 the crowd went wild (small kine) during the boise game. i was in a daze, then i noticed chow changed qb’s. if hawaii wasn’t so generous with the ball, they probably would have only lost by 3 td’s and not 5. maybe UH needs to get a different brand of football, the one’s they are using may be slicker than others.

  200. gobows November 15, 2012 1:01 pm

    #197 yes, it’s coaching. same thing happened when ron lee was coaching the receivers. nothing happened. basically just drawing a paycheck. who coaches the receivers now? not doing a good job. receivers keep running out of bounds on their own making them ineligible receivers, no in game adjustments on routes vs defensive schemes, and most of all receivers keep dropping the stupid ball. the receivers coach should be buying the students pizza during the game, because he obviously isn’t doing much else.

  201. kapakahi November 15, 2012 1:04 pm

    Whatever and however things work out for Jordan Wynn with UH, JMHO that Chow needs to find a way to officially hire former Warrior great (and 8-year NFL vet) Ashley Lelie on the coaching staff as the WR coach….to expand on what’s he’s already doing with the Warrior receivers.

    Ashley would be great asset for recruiting…..both locally and on mainland… a former local HS product and walk-on….who earned a full scholie as a starter….and became the go-to star receiver…..and then got picked in the 1st Round of the NFL Draft (19th overall selection)….and played 8 full seasons in the NFL.

    Well spoken and very knowledgeable…..having played first-hand in multiple offensive sets (R&S, Pro Set, West Coast, etc.).

    Can’t ask for a better ambassador for Warrior football recruiting than a former Warrior and NFLer like Ashley!

  202. Dan-O November 15, 2012 1:08 pm

    Yes, Higgins is not the savior. Hoping for a victory is a bit of a reach. Higgins not playing defense, and we’re gonna be having all kinds of problems defending the option.

    HOWEVER, I do hope that Higgins can take control of the offense….put together some drives, and put some points on the board. Or at the least, please….go thru the progressions and LOOK at the second and third options on passing plays (with time permitting), and not stare down ONE receiver and attempt to throw to him.

    Otherwise, the only guy having a career day tomorrow will be Dunnachie, and maybe Edwards….who will get more than his fair share of KO return attempts.

  203. Bowwar November 15, 2012 1:11 pm

    I don’t care who plays QB or what offense Chow employs…The Bottom-line is Wins…Nobody wants a loser and moreover, a loser that gets his butt kicked every weekend. All you get is people who feel sorry and a very losing program. Chow needs to use his reputed skills and intelligence to get the “best” of what he has and start winning games. I don’t care if he wants to run the Hula-T, option, spread, or run & shoot…Show some creativity.

    Lastly, the players should never be blamed…They play the game at the best of their abilities. They put it on the line for this State and the University. How well they play is often dictated by the coaching…

  204. A-House November 15, 2012 1:23 pm

    If the WR are constantly running the “wrong routes” and being counseled by Ashley or whomever the WR coach is it not time for them to get some bench time?

    Notice how the WR continue to stay in the game even when running wrong routes? Do they feel that others cannot take their place and have the attitude “I can do whatever I want?” If so, then it’s time to find a new WR, even one less talented or slower but runs routes well with good hands, or find a new receivers coach.

    Must give Boise St coaching staff due credit for their “who plays philosophy” – start them early and continue their training so the palyers and team are always ready to compete. Thus, only having to “re-load” rather than UH’s constant “rebuild”, year after year after year.

    Can I do better? I don’t know, but that does not mean I cannot make positive observations and expressions based on all my knowledge and experiences in other areas such as education, being led and being a leader, working skills, management skills, people skills, etc.

  205. JustAFan November 15, 2012 1:34 pm

    ST is today the NLI for football too? Any signees?

  206. Rodney November 15, 2012 1:34 pm

    I don’t believe Higgings is the answer.He does

    deserve a shot!Go get um Jeremy!!!!!!

    Imua warriors !!!

  207. letsgowarriors November 15, 2012 1:35 pm

    february 6 is the NLI day for football. dec 19 if they enroll in spring semester.

  208. Capitolist/WassupDoc November 15, 2012 1:38 pm

    Just released on Civil Beat:

    Promo for “Insights” tonight (Thursday, Nov. 15) on PBS Hawaii:

    Host Dan Boylan and guests discuss University of Hawaii at Manoa’s Division I athletic program, a longtime institution for student achievement and community pride. In light of recent fallout from the Stevie Wonder concert fiasco, INSIGHTS explores the athletic program’s mission, how it benefits students and the community, and the feasibility of continuing a Division I program in a budget-strapped environment.

    Scheduled to appear: Robert Cooney, Associate Professor and Former Chair of UH Manoa’s Faculty Senate; Jim Leahey, sportscaster and co-host of PBS Hawaii’s Leahey & Leahey; Ferd Lewis, sports reporter at the Honolulu Star-Advertiser; and John McNamara, Associate Athletic Director at UH Manoa.

  209. Kevin November 15, 2012 1:39 pm

    UH Men’s Basketball Inks 2.

    Official release:

    11/15/2012 12:20:00 PM

    HONOLULU – University of Hawai`i men’s basketball coach Gib Arnold announced the signing of a pair of players during the early signing period. Post player Stefan Jovanovic and wing Michael Thomas each signed with Hawai’i and will join the team with four years of eligibility.

    Jovanovic is a 6-foot-10, 235-pound center and native of Serbia who attends Bishop Montgomery High School in Torrance, Calif. Jovanovic earned second-team all-Del Rey league honors as a junior last year after averaging 10 points and eight rebounds per game and helping lead his team to a 25-4 record.

    Jovanovic also had a strong showing on the AAU circuit this past summer while playing for the Pump-n-Run Elite team, particularly at the Fab 48 Tournament in Las Vegas where he averaged closed to a double-double.

    “I first saw Stefan five years ago in Serbia,” Arnold said. “At the time he was just 13 years old but I remember he had a great work ethic and the potential to be a very good player. In the five years since he has done a remarkable job of developing into very good high school player. He is big and strong and already has a Division I body. I’m looking forward to working with Stefan and I am confident he’ll become an outstanding college player.”

    UH, meanwhile, reeled in another top Southern California prospect in Thomas, a 6-6, 200-pound wing player out of El Camino Real High School in Woodland Hills, Calif.

    Thomas averaged 16 points, eight rebounds, four assists and three blocks per game as a junior. Playing a multitude of positions, the versatile Thomas helped the Conquistadors capture the City Section Division II championship last season, recording a double-double in the title game.

    Thomas received interest from programs in the Pac-12, Mountain West, Western Athletic Conference and West Coast Conference, before ultimately choosing UH over Northern Arizona and UC Santa Barbara.

    “Michael has the whole package,” Arnold said. “He’s an outstanding young man and basketball player. In high school he played most of his minutes in the post, but he’s worked hard and become a very good perimeter player. I’m sure he’ll have many above-the-rim highlights at UH with his incredible athleticism. He’s a gifted young man and will be a joy to work with as a new member of our team.”

    2013-14 Recruiting Class

    Stefan Jovanovic, 6-10, 235, C, Fr., Belgrade, Serbia., Bishop Montgomery High School

    Michael Thomas, 6-6, 200, F, Fr., Woodland Hills, Calif., El Camino Real, High School

  210. Capitolist/WassupDoc November 15, 2012 1:41 pm

    According to Keith Amemiya, the Board of Regents will initiate the Task Group on Intercollegiate Athletics. Other experts from athletic NGOs, faculty, administrative & coaching staff, and the business community may be considered as well.

  211. kifi November 15, 2012 1:44 pm

    2013-14 Recruiting Class

    Stefan Jovanovic, 6-10, 235, C, Fr., Belgrade, Serbia., Bishop Montgomery High School

    Michael Thomas, 6-6, 200, F, Fr., Woodland Hills, Calif., El Camino Real, High School

    Oh yeah!

  212. SteveM November 15, 2012 1:44 pm

    I was saw a sci-fi movie where there was a catastrophe and all the major TV and news media was on scene reporting. Long lull in the action…no changes in the situation… no significant news to report.

    One of the main characters observed, “Man–it is so slow the big name reporters are starting to interview each other [to keep the news feed going]”.

    Dunno why the blog keeps reminding me of that scene. 😕

  213. kapakahi November 15, 2012 1:50 pm

    The fact is….that certain WRs haven’t given their best effort with SS at helm…..since they believer that the ball won’t be thrown their way…..but instead have played harder and with more effort when JH has gone in these past 2 games.

  214. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 1:56 pm

    I think once Jace, Vander, and Hauns leave after this season Coach Gib will still have a solid foundation to work with. Coach will have another strong triple threat in Standhardinger, Fotu, and Spearman. Shamburger should be able to step right in once Jace vacates and take over the reigns at point while Roop still learns the ropes. Ozzy could play a bigger role. Valdes could see significant minutes and provide some nice above the rim highlights. I like Jawato and Jefferson too. One guy I would like to see step up a bit more though is Davis Rozitis. Also hoping Dressler sheds a few and gains some muscle, works hard on his footwork and speed, cause he could be a banger with Fotu down low.

  215. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 2:00 pm


    That is in a way true. I’ve seen it happen before when a receiver is consistently open and isn’t getting the ball thrown his way. After awhile the receiver doesn’t go as hard or make much of an effort going after the ball. I hope this isn’t the case, but there are some who would be like screw this and just not care anymore or have confidence in the QB. At this point the receivers are probably thinking frikk there goes another sack, or another fumble, or another overthrown ball, etc…

  216. d1shima November 15, 2012 2:13 pm

    *change topic*

    For the FBS playoff proponents (or opponents, too, I guess) it’s two days from the start of the DIII playoffs….a 32-team, single elimination ride to the NC.

    Here’s the write-up on the playoffs. Note what’s good (inclusivity) and not-so-good (inclusivity). And also some discussion about logistics.

  217. d1shima November 15, 2012 2:14 pm

    Isn’t a “tar heel” a sheep with a genetic black spot on its hoof?

  218. jimmy the lock November 15, 2012 2:35 pm

    May as well get in on the action.

    I want Cayman Shutter to start next game! Damnit! :mrgreen:

  219. cocobean November 15, 2012 2:36 pm

    Air Force is beatable.

    Really doubt anyone from linemen to receivers are not giving their best effort on the field. If someone is taking plays off it show up when the coaches grade the game film.

    We don’t have anyone good enough to get away with the prima donna like effort Randy Moss gave in Oakland whenever he was disgruntled with the offense.

  220. jimmy the lock November 15, 2012 2:38 pm

    Can’t wait for tomorrow’s “Hottie of the Week”.

  221. Aaron November 15, 2012 2:47 pm

    220. How does Rozitis “step up” when he doesn’t even get in the game?

  222. cocobean November 15, 2012 2:54 pm

    #226. I was tempted to post the same thing.

    After all Shutter is supposedly the best athlete of the three QBs.

  223. Whats up November 15, 2012 2:54 pm

    The funny thing is we asked for a QB change and we get a QB change. Then we still complain about it? That doesn’t even make sense, does it? It’s hard for all of us to watch our beloved Warriors get there butts handed to them so far this season. Stephen Tsai is right we got what we wanted, so be happy and lets see what happens. Also lets look at what has been positive about Warrior Football?

    #1 The defense has improved and I could see it against Boise State. Don’t let the score fool you, the turnovers led to alot of the points. I didn’t think Kaumeyer D would work but he has made adjustments and the players are just now starting to grasp the new defensive system. It took almost the whole season but better late than never, right?

    #2 Mike Edwards is a beast! Nuff Said! Marrell Jackson, Jerrol Garcia Williams, Tavita Woodard, Beau Yap, Dee Maggit, Haku C and the rest of the Defense deserve some praise from us the Warrior Fans. This young men play there tails off on defense!

    #3 Sean Schroeder has the heart of a champion and is tough as nails! He has been beat down this season from hit after hit from opposing defenses. It took a toll on him physically and mentally but no matter what SS has my respect. Kudos SS take this time to heal up. Higgins has fresh legs and does deserve to start, how he will perform against starting defensive line up, we shall see? But I like what I’ve seen so far from Higgins at the end of the Fresno and Boise games, so go get ’em Higgins!

    #4 The coaching staff are making adjustments and the past 3 games Chow has called a great offensive game. The learning curve is taking a little longer on the offensive side for many reasons, but the big one is the forsaken injury bug! But it will click and the light bulb will turn on just like it did with the RnS, give the players time to grasp the offense. But all the coaches are doing a excellent job of what they have to work with such as being in the middle of the Pacific Ocean and transition year with players that where recruited for the RnS. Despite what some folks think Chow and his staff are top notch.

    #5 Special Teams have been solid, except for a few hicups like the fumbles. But that can be cleaned up. But the Kicking game has improved a lot from last years debace.

    #6 Air Force is in for a game this week, the Warriors just might shock them and pull out a close win! I know for sure the Warriors Defense will show up! Special teams will show up! I doubt AF will kick the ball to Mike Edwards very much, which would be smart! Higgins and the Offense looks promising but we will see. Go Warriors!


    Hawaii 17

    AF 16

    Yep I picked Hawaii to win for the first time in…. forever!

  224. jimmy the lock November 15, 2012 3:04 pm

    I’d be surprised if the Warrior defense steps it up. Going be hard to stop the Falcons’ bread and butter. But anything can happen. Here’s to hope, not Solo.

  225. spisskyhrad November 15, 2012 3:40 pm

    Hate to say it but Air Force plays real hard and mean. They have been competitive all year long and won their share. They don’t give up.

    New quarterback, injuries galore, hard to be too optimistic about this match. Hopefully, Brendan Daley will be back. He is 6’5″ and strong. His recruiting video was impressive. I hope this is just tough love and not unreasonable expectations of meat head jocks. This ain’t Stanford…..

  226. douschebag November 15, 2012 3:53 pm

    achilles TENDON… you tard

  227. Derek November 15, 2012 4:00 pm

    Weather probably in the 40s tomorrow. Why should I go against the grain now. ESPN2. Probably more the same. My blazin 5.

    Air Force 34, Hawaii 10

    Oregon 45, Stanford 20

    Kansas State 38, Baylor 17

    Utah State 42, La Tech 41

    Ohio State 20, Wisconsin 17

  228. Da Punchbowl Kid November 15, 2012 4:02 pm

    I’m not the student of the game that many here are. We have some smart folks analyzing UH’s strategies no matter who’s coaching and/or who starts. I learn a lot from reading their posts, they make watching the game all the more meaningful to me.

    My two cents – Stephen Tsai hasn’t missed a practice or game for 11 going on 12 seasons. If he’s taking the time to share his perceptions, I’ll defer to his opinion. Love to read everybody elses opinions, respect them too. What’s different about today’s discussions was the fact that Tsai was very thourough at explaining the Coach’s mindset and what Tsai also sees at practice. Like A poster famously once said, believe what you see (in this case, read) with your own eyes.

    SS deserves an award for grit and courage. A total stranger told me that at Safeway this morning and he’s right. OTOH, I like the spark that Higgins brings to the game, and I love the spark in his eyes when you see him being interviewed on the TV sports reports. I like our chances with him as QB1 against Air Force. Lastly, I would love to see Graves get some game time in any way shape or form. The kid IS a baller and he’s the consumate Warrior.


  229. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 4:13 pm

    #163 My point has always been the same to the whiners. Make your point and move on. Making the same point over and over and over again serves no point. Posting your rant over and over and over will not give your point any more validity.

  230. tommui November 15, 2012 4:33 pm

    #237 – DPK Concur! Like always, you speak with wisdom. (Rare on this blog)

  231. Moocher November 15, 2012 4:54 pm

    #238 exactly!

    people complain about von appen, complain about JJ, complain about mac, and complain about chow.

    100% of the fans will never be satisfied 100% of the time. but for pitty sakes you’d wish they’d just move on instead of whining and crying week in and week out. and it’ll be that way until coach let’s them think “they got their way” or they think they were right…pretty sad if you ask me.

  232. kapakahi November 15, 2012 5:23 pm


    It’s all a matter of mutual trust.

    The QB has to trust the receiver to do what he’s taught to get open. BUT if the QB doesn’t trust the receiver, then he’ll most likely throw the ball to another receiver….even if the receiver does get open….or even take a sack.

    The receiver is also supposed to trust the QB that the ball will be thrown if he does what he’s supposed to do to get open. BUT….the receiver starts going through the motions….when the ball isn’t thrown to him…..’cuz he knows that the QB doesn’t even look his way in the pre-snap reads… he knows that the QB won’t throw the ball his way….even if he does what he’s supposed to do. On the rare occasion that the QB actually throws the ball to the receiver…..the receiver usually isn’t where he’s supposed to be….and/or isn’t ready to make a play on the ball…..resulting in an bad incompletion….or even worse an INT.

    This same mutual trust is also supposed to exist between the QB and the OL….but just hasn’t developed throughout the season…..especially with the musical chair starting OL line-up for every game.

    Wish that I were just guessing or speculating that this is what’s going on…..BUT the fact is….that I “know” that this is what has been going on… least for past few games.

  233. kapakahi November 15, 2012 5:27 pm

    #226 & #230,

    While Shutter might be most athletic among the top 3 QBs, he’s also probably the least durable…..having a history of being knocked out of games during his HS career….twice against Kamehameha-Kapalama….once each his junior and senior seasons when getting sacked.

    While less athletic, Higgins probably has better pocket awareness to avoid the bigger hits.

  234. kalani November 15, 2012 5:44 pm


    November 15th, 2012 at 2:54 pm

    #226. I was tempted to post the same thing.

    After all Shutter is supposedly the best athlete of the three QBs.

    Also the strongest arm of the three. I have no problem with Higgins but would like what Shutter and his arm could bring to the table.

  235. cocobean November 15, 2012 5:47 pm

    Air Force is beatable.

    Darn these miliutary academies. They don’t out muscle their opponents they out tactical them. Each offensive play is like a commado raid with each team member having a specific assignment to carry out. They look for weaknesses to exploit. Executing their plays with precision is their hallmark. They count on their opponents being a half step slow thinking about their assignments rather than just knowing and reacting.

    Our D has to see and do. Can’t be thinking too much out there.

    On O we’re gonna have to use our physical superiority(size) to cancel their tactics. Turn this game into a slugfest. Establishing the run and hitting them with play action is doable against this team. Patience in this game is going to be a virtual.

    Just an opinion

  236. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 5:56 pm

    Aaron #229,

    Rozitis has been in the program from the beginning, he’s not in the game because Coach needs him to bang and he’s not a banger. He’s more like a 3 Toni Kukoc type with a Euro game but I don’t know, he doesn’t seem aggresive. He needs to step up and work on his game so he can see playing time. I like Rozitis and I feel his height can be utilized in some capacity but he just seems to lack some aggression I guess.

  237. Pauoa Boy November 15, 2012 5:57 pm

    Beginning of Coach Gib taking over I mean

  238. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 6:00 pm

    Don’t forget to watch Island Insights.

  239. madeinhawaii November 15, 2012 6:06 pm

    Busy day tomorrow… WBB.. MBB… FB…. Korean Dramas…

  240. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 6:07 pm


  241. WWF November 15, 2012 6:18 pm

    If the Oline isn’t protecting the QB, and the receivers aren’t getting open, the UH QB that starts tomorrow should be the most mobile QB that can get extra yards when the pocket collapses.

    That QB was too busy in practice portraying the AF QB scoring 5 touchdowns against our first unit defense. Hmmmm . . . and he is a receiver???

  242. cocobean November 15, 2012 6:29 pm

    Inch for inch I thought Davis “foul a minute” Rozitis was the physically weakest player last year. Thought his strenghts were shot blocking, decent big man passer and how quick he got down court in transition(for a 7 footer).

    My impression of the team is Vander and Fotu’s game will be the most consistant regardless of the opponent. Others will have up and down games depending on the strenght of the opponent. It’s not surprising that when you expend a lot of energy guarding a quality player your offense may drop off. Or when you have a quality defender on you you won’t have as many good looks.

    Vander still holds the ball too long at certain times but like the range he’s developed on his jumper. Fotu has a simple game not too many moving parts. Play D, rebound and quick outlet, catch the ball low make a move – score or get to FT line.

    Like what I’m seeing. Hope the zone is effective against IL. We have a very good chance of winning if IL can’t force us out of it.

  243. Joni November 15, 2012 6:34 pm

    My assessment on why the receivers might be dropping the ball is because SS lets his ball hang n receivers r afraid of getting hit. SS likes to throw in tights spaces with no zip on his passes. Just my 2cents.

  244. jeezy33 November 15, 2012 6:46 pm

    241. This is a football blog. Our team has 0 wins against D1 opponents. Do you expect fans to be talking about how hard everyone is playing? Do you expect us to be talking about the awesome offense and defense on the field? Get real man. Don’t know what world you live in but when a crappy product is being put out there with no improvements, people with complaints are bound to happen

  245. gobows November 15, 2012 6:50 pm

    #252 not seeing what you are seeing with fotu. he had 3 rebounds in 20+ minutes in game 2 and 4 rebounds in 20+ minutes in game 3. probably was a fluke when he grabbed 15 in game 1. besides look who they played. probably some of the local teams (hpu, byuh) could win against the teams that was in the outrigger. the team is exactly the sam as last year, just a different lineup. 21 turnovers against maryland stinky shore, 17 against arkansas pine tree, and 17 agains lanakila baptist. i bet the team will average more turnovers than the number of wins they get.

    if hawaii plays well and hangs with illinois and unlv, then i might agree. but so far it’s the same old song and dance, just with new members.

    it’s hard to get recruits to come to hawaii. puts in perspective just how good riley wallace was as a coach.

  246. gobows November 15, 2012 6:53 pm

    #254 people were complaining when mack’s team won 10 games and a share of the wac title. people need to vent, get it off their chest.

  247. Slugger November 15, 2012 7:04 pm

    Congrats, Ulu Matagiese!!!! Looking forward to seeing you with Na Wahine.

  248. d1shima November 15, 2012 7:10 pm

    Did Ashley Lelie earn his undergrad degree?

  249. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 7:25 pm

    Insights on PBS Hawaii startng now.

    Wasting no time — Boylan mentioning the Wonder Blunder and losing football record.

  250. Chicken Grease November 15, 2012 7:29 pm



    If you like call in w/question or comment, Insights

    Leahy, Reardon, McNamara, Robet Cooney on the show.

  251. kapakahi November 15, 2012 7:33 pm


    Already earned his undergrad degree majoring in History.

  252. d1shima November 15, 2012 7:53 pm


  253. Moocher November 15, 2012 8:16 pm


    of course people will complain i get that. 🙂

    for pitty sakes its the constant whining. when will it be enough? do these people need to hear “oh yeah you told us so”? will these people persist with whining until they get things their way?

    if people have complaints and have the need to whine because they don’t like how things are run, or coach isn’t coaching “their way”, voice your opinion, say your peace and get over it and move on. and if that’s not good enough fill an out an application for HC.

    fair enough?

    if any of us “i know how chows” gets hired i’ll support them same way i’m giving chow a chance because i know it takes time. even if coach wasn’t chow whoever the coach is i know it would take time. if people not happy with the results do all you can to fire chow-simple enough?

    the main point is complaining is fine-totally understandable and agreeable, but must people whine all the time? i think that’s what people are getting tired of. a bad season is one thing, complaining and complimenting both are needed, but i think we can all agree there’s no whining in football 🙂

    i appreciate seeing all points of view.

  254. madeinhawaii November 15, 2012 8:25 pm

    There would be 50% less whining and complaining if people stopped whining and complaining about the complainers… 😉

  255. koleni November 15, 2012 8:31 pm

    amen, #264!

  256. Derek November 15, 2012 8:43 pm

    Still only one defensive lineman recruit, Tuaau. We need 4 or 5 more, ready to play right away. And we should sure like to get 1 or 2 pass rushers. Heck, we need a lot of play makers too. Kennedy Tulimasealii, where are you? Hawaii needs you. You can be the second coming of Levi Stanley.

  257. kev-1 November 15, 2012 8:47 pm

    264 mih


  258. madeinhawaii November 15, 2012 8:48 pm

    I suppose the Warriors are counting on the return of several DEs from injuries next season. But still, they should pick up a couple JuCo players for insurance. Oline needs a couple, especially on the blindside. WR? maybe…

  259. Moocher November 15, 2012 8:49 pm



  260. kev-1 November 15, 2012 8:54 pm

    mih . . . you think DE over more DTs? I agree though. Bring in some JuCo players for a little help. Got that one WR Polk right?

  261. Moocher November 15, 2012 8:54 pm

    team needs help all around.

    hate to say it but i think the d needs the pick of the litter.

    …and that means perhaps another slow year next year with the O. let’s hope the O gets experience from this year and that can carry them if the d can keep it close next year.

    the best recruit sometimes is experience.

  262. kev-1 November 15, 2012 9:00 pm

    It may sound crazy, but I like our LBs and DBs next year. I am confident our freshmen will blossom into some really good players. I think we need to get more stout up front on the D line.

  263. cocobean November 15, 2012 9:10 pm

    go-b. This is the first year I don’t have s-tix since the 70s. Only saw the last two games via webcast. Have tix for IL game.

    Like the way Fotu plays. Will stand by my assessment of him. He could have sat out the first 4 games(HPU included) and the Bows still would have dominated. I really feel he has the game that can hold up against more physically talented teams.

    Not saying he’s going to dominate in his first year but he shows that promise. Remember Vander’s first year here? He was raw but you could see his potential. Fotu’s game now is way ahead of Vander’s first. Expect Gib to be tighter with PT for some but not with Fotu. They’ll need his physicality in this one.

    Just an opinion.

  264. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 9:19 pm

    Re #263

    Why are you trying to squelch discussion about coaching decisions, offensive schemes, etc.? How are those not legitimate topics for this blog, which is run by ST and ST only by the way? Quit whining about people whining. Feel free to skip any post or poster that offends your senses. If you disagree with what is said, feel free to explain why — that is the whole point of this board after all — but who are you to tell people to stop posting?

  265. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 9:23 pm


    Now this is the kind of post that I could do without. It is dismissive of all past accomplishments and full of needlessly negative future predictions. And then to top things off, the poster says he “might” change his mind if the team can play with Illinois and #18 UNLV in LV. Hey, if those things happen, don’t bother. The bandwagon will be full.

  266. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 9:30 pm

    #263, +1 The main reason I brought this up and have been repeating it is because this blog is becoming like the Scout message board. I’ve noticed that quite a few of the people who had logical well thought out comments and opinions no longer post here. They have been replaced by the “vocal” cry baby whiners.

    I have never said a negative opinion was bad but a person does not have to whine and repeat the same rant over and over and over to get their point across.

    Part of the reason is that the Scout board winners are now posting here. The people who got banned for sock puppets on that board have brought their sock puppets to this blog. The other reason is that the people are who they are, they like to complain, some of them they live in the past, some of them are clueless but they are who they are. I have no problem with that as long as a post has logic to back it up and and is not “full” of ridiculous assumptions that are repeated over and over and over.

  267. WarriorMojo November 15, 2012 9:32 pm

    Re #274

    Those are nice, but I’ll go with my Audio-Technica ATHM50s. Match those with a FiiO E11 and you’re good to go for those long flights.

  268. Capitolist/WassupDoc November 15, 2012 9:57 pm

    For those of you who feel strongly about the leadership both academically and athletically at the University of Hawai`i at Manoa, now is the time to speak up. There is a major split on the Board of Regents.

    According the Insights broadcast this evening, the new Director of Athletics will be named in early December. However, no one has a clue as to who is going to named. I gather that the finalists are not going to meet with anyone other than the committee. Mucho baddo.

    Looking forward to the three basketball games tomorrow.

  269. wowlaulau November 15, 2012 10:00 pm

    #279, +1 – This is a chance for the whiners to be a doer and not just a talker. Get involved and be a person of action to bring about change….

  270. John Fitzgerald Byers November 15, 2012 10:01 pm

    Early december? what a joke. ask anyone actually working at the quarry about that and its bs. Good old jmac on the boob tube being nothing more than a walking talking vague press release for the quarry people.

  271. John Fitzgerald Byers November 15, 2012 10:02 pm

    Ask the same question to two admin people at uh athletics and you get four different answers all the while being directed to another area for an answer.

  272. d1shima November 15, 2012 10:15 pm

    The Regents and President Greenwood will work together to build on this record by offering affordable access, excellence in teaching, internationally recognized research and innovation, and a culture of service to the people of Hawai’i.

    …and sing a few choruses of Kumbayah. 🙄

  273. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:18 pm

    How can some cast stones against others for their comments, yet continue to call them “whiners” and “clueless” and “cry babies?” I get that you are tired of the negativity, but aren’t you doing the same thing? You are only perpetuating what you claim is ruining this blog.

    If you have a problem with certain people, take it up with them already. I’m sure ST can put you in touch with each other. This has gone on all day. Pau already.

  274. Former UH Athlete November 15, 2012 10:30 pm

    #272, we’ve been preaching it all year… Chow has some very promising freshmen that are getting valuable playing time. Under normal circumstances, many would be redshirting because they just aren’t big enough for D1 football. I think they have the talent, just not the size yet.

    That being said, Garcia-Williams, Merrel Jackson, Ben Fonua, and Lance Williams all look like very good players once they put some weight on. At the D1 level, a 225lb LB isn’t going to shed a 300+lb Olinemen and make any plays. In today’s game, a 285lb DT has no chance vs double teams.

    Chow’s 1st offseason strength & conditioning program will be critical for the program for 2013 and beyond. Big Tommy has his work cut out for him once the season ends.

    Regarding the Dline… Chow has two nice looking Dlinemen committed already and look like they could start immediately. There are a few more that have offers out and UH is in contention for. Add in a healthy Samia, Friel, and everybody else gets stronger, then the Dline will be vastly improved.

    2012 is a washout year… nobody expected it to be this bad, but UH gotta take its lumps…

    For those complaining about Chow as a coach…. what were you expecting this team to be if Mack was riding out his final year on contract??? I’m sure Graves could run the offense, but he’s a significant dropoff from Moniz and his only win last year was vs an awful Tulane and Shane Austin had to come in and save the win.

    If Mack were still here and taking into account the defensive performance (which would be the similar because there wasn’t any change to the defensive scheme)… UH still loses to USC, UNR, BYU, SDSU, Fresno & Boise for sure, UH still beats Lamar for sure, and UH might have beaten CSU and UNM… That means Mack would probably by 3-6 at this point in the season of you count CSU and UNM as wins.

    Folks, 3-6 isn’t getting it done and certainly is not going to earn Mack a contract extension. Thus, UH would be searching for coach at the end of 2012. Even worse, having a lame duck coach is the worst possible scenario for any team/franchise in any sport (college or professional). A lame duck coach basically renders the entire recruiting class hostage and most recruits will not commit to a team where they know the coach isn’t going to be there when they arrive.

    It’s no coincidence that UH had 10 wins and co-WAC champions in 2010, and the 2010 UH roster was led by many of Jones’ upperclassmen recruits.

    WR: Salas, Pilares & Pollard; OL: Hansen, Ginlack, Thomas & Letuli; DL: Purcell & Meatoga; LB: Lolotai & Paredes; DB: Torres & Silva were all Jones’ recruits starting in 2010. Moniz, Green, Tiwanak, Bradley, Tuipulotu, Umu, Brown, Davis & Bryant were the other starters (ALL TRANSFERS recruited by Mack). Not a single McMackin prep recruit was a regular starter during the co-WAC championship year.

    * 2010 was Mack’s 3rd year as coach and had ZERO prep recruits starting.

    ** Looking back at 2009’s roster and stats, Mack had ZERO prep recruits starting.

    ** As the last of Jones’ recruits graduated, so did Mack’s best transfer recruits. Mack’s poor HS recruiting got exposed in 2011 and now the team is suffering because of the lack of quality upperclassmen.

  275. kev-1 November 15, 2012 10:39 pm

    ^ good post

  276. LizKauai (mbp) November 15, 2012 10:51 pm

    Any team can win on any given Friday.

    Let it be THE WARRIORS!!!

    :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

  277. Kekoa November 16, 2012 12:56 am

    W/Doc ~

    How can the public trust MRC Greewood? She needs to be replaced. The BOR is on shaky ground as well. Too many secret meetings with no information provided to the people who pay their salary.

    MRC was very rude in avoiding Keoki Kerr. She should have allowed him an exit comment. Where’s the transparency she spoke of providing the public?

    When can we expect to see her leadership ability shine?

  278. maddog50 November 16, 2012 2:40 am

    Lets’s play the game already…..Go Warriors

  279. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2012 2:47 am

    I try to be polite, but what some people tell their relatives about what’s going on might be somewhat inflated. OK, a lot inflated.

    One of the more amusing things is there’s a former player who has led the anti-UH charge. What he doesn’t realize is that none of his former teammates can stand him.

  280. mo808 November 16, 2012 2:48 am

    Good Friday Aloha Greetings Folks!

    Its nearly a new dawn of a new day!

    Game Day!

  281. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2012 2:52 am

    I don’t know Greenwood and since I’m neither faculty nor student, I can’t rate her performance. But kudos to her for keeping emails and voicemails. Strike first is always good strategy.

  282. mo808 November 16, 2012 2:53 am

    …wow, didnt think anyone would be up so late

    Always Ready!

    Go warriors!

  283. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2012 2:58 am

    Mornin’ Mo.

    It’s hard to sleep up here. It’s the dryness.

  284. mo808 November 16, 2012 3:02 am

    Hi ST! Hope you guys have a great trip! Keep those photos coming!

  285. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2012 3:08 am

    I just figured out Instagram.

  286. Stephen Tsai November 16, 2012 3:13 am

    First rule: when people complain about the blog, I’m very accommodating in steering them elsewhere. Well, right after I disinfect.

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