All or nothing

The Warriors have five regular-season games remaining. Consider this:

> There are only two home games left, starting with Saturday’s game against Utah State. After that, three of the final four will be on the road. The Warriors, 2-6 overall and 1-2 in MWC, still have a mathematical chance for the postseason if they win out.

> Unfortunately, once again, UH fans will not get to see Chuckie Keeton, who is out for the season with another injury. When healthy, Keeton probably is better than Nevada’s Cody Fajardo. OK, maybe that’s fortunate for UH fans.

> Know that saying, “There’s plenty of time to sleep when I’m dead”? That’s an extreme example, but for several seniors, there is plenty of time to rest after completing their NCAA careers. According to a 2013 NCAA study, only 1.6 percent of seniors will play in the NFL. Therein is the dilemma of Scott Harding, who is the team’s MVP as a punter, punt returner and slotback. There is no doubt about his toughness. But to watch him after every game, covered with ice packs and hobbling in a way no young person should hobble — not even a 28-year-old — it probably would do him good to sit out more plays. The choice should be easy, except he is a senior and there are no guarantees after this season.

> The dynamics of the running game will change after Saturday. Running back Joey Iosefa is eligible to return for the Nov. 8 game against Colorado State. Steven Lakalaka and Diocoemy Saint Juste have established themselves as go-to backs. They have earned a fair share of reps when the rotation expands to three.

> Donnie King, it seems, makes a big play every practice. It was nice to see King, a fifth-year senior, get a chance against Nevada. “He’s always practiced hard,” coach Norm Chow said. “He’s a wonderful guy. He understands his role and he works hard. He asked for a shot because he’s a senior and could help us, and he showed it (Saturday) night.”


  1. TOM October 27, 2014 8:29 am


  2. Dan-O October 27, 2014 8:29 am


  3. Dan-O October 27, 2014 8:30 am

    AH, SECOND!!!!!

  4. Markazulu October 27, 2014 8:39 am

    If he always makes big plays in practice why is he not playing more in games?

  5. seewhy October 27, 2014 8:47 am

    Good morning everyone!

  6. seewhy October 27, 2014 8:50 am

    Still hats off to Donnie for

  7. seewhy October 27, 2014 8:51 am

    his big plays.*
    Sorry, hit the send button too soon.

  8. Ipu Man October 27, 2014 8:52 am

    God bless Donnie King and ALL the seniors…
    including the senior tsaikos. 🙂

  9. gigi-hawaii October 27, 2014 8:55 am

    Well, I hope the seniors do well after graduating.
    A college education will always do wonders for one’s future whether or not the NFL beckons.

  10. BTO October 27, 2014 8:58 am

    UH really opens up the playbook at the start of each game and most have been successful. Then I do not understand why then they become so conservative. I really have enjoyed the rollouts, reverses, the end arounds etc… then we go back to black and white. Adjust the rabbit ears the reception mostly bad for the remainder of the game….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  11. willie boy October 27, 2014 9:21 am

    9- the first 8-12 plays are supposedly scripted before the game starts….maybe coach wynn just ain’t good at calling plays on da fly because he sure hasn’t made any significant adjustments coming out after da half so far to exploit how opposing defenses are playing.

  12. Tempmanoa October 27, 2014 9:43 am

    BTO, Chow is essentially a conservative coach who plays to keep the game close rather than game to score points. By keeping the game close, Chow is hoping to get a turnover or force mistakes by the other team to win rather than make mistakes that could mean points scored against us. The effect of this– is the same as chess and investing– you keep your losses close and minimize blowouts that often result from turnovers and mistakes. But at the same time, for a team that is unable to dominate and score without taking chances, it means we don’t score enough points to win even if we keep the game close. Had we been more aggressive and taken calculated risks (not blindly trying anything to win)– passed more, ran a few different plays, used different players– while we may have more mistakes and end up losing by wider margins, we should also have more wins. In fact it might be the only way for team like ours that is not dominant to win. It can be done by an aggressive offense at the start or at the end when it might be too late.

  13. ArcumFortis October 27, 2014 9:44 am

    I enjoy hanging on to the possibility of us winning out the rest of the season. It’s probably not realistic but it’s more enjoyable than the more likely scenario that we do not. I hope we win enough games for coach Chow to hang in for another season. Perhaps I have become truly delusional here but I think next year looks much more promising. If we could hire a good OC and if our defence continues to improve we could be a very good football team next year. I know many people want coach Chow gone now and I understand the sentiment. I find myself in that camp from time to time. But all things considered the story of the team making a turnaround and coach Chow being successful is a much better story than starting all over again. But this is not a fiction writing competition and we have to start winning this week. If we lose this week it will look grim. With a win and the ongoing possibility of a turnaround my interest increases as I am sure it does for many.

  14. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 9:55 am

    I hope the seniors are actually graduating. becuase like said, the graduation percentage numbers (versus APR, which is a sham statistic) were lower than most football factory schools.

  15. hatakeman October 27, 2014 10:01 am

    After the Wyoming game, I thought the coaching staff had the team turning the corner. But the losses to San Diego St. and Nevada only showed nothing has really changed since the first game against the Washington Huskies. Phew, that seems like such a long time ago and here we are discussing the same old thing. What went wrong and can the team win again this season? Tired.

  16. sofaking_blk October 27, 2014 10:14 am

    We have a QB who can’t throw, WRs who can’t catch and that all adds up to an Offense that is completely dead in the water. Every loss is one step closer to Chow being fired.

  17. Tempmanoa October 27, 2014 10:25 am

    Based on statistics from computer models (which have been very accurate for us and other teams and getting more accurate every week), we are expected to beat UNLV, with a decent chance of winning at least one other MWC game on our schedule– we will underdogs, but if you calculate the odds of losing all of those games and subtract from 100%, we have a better than 50 percent chance of winning at least one. So we should have a total of 4 wins– 4-9 season based on the models which are based on actual performance of us and the teams on our schedule and their relative strengths (and not things like new injury to a QB, or other loss of a significant player)

  18. whitey October 27, 2014 11:01 am

    is the terminology “conservative play” the same as “prevent defense”??? somehow both shows up on the Rainbow offense. with the conservative play calling on offense (3 and out), this prevents our defense from getting some rest. so I guess they mean the same.

  19. SteveM October 27, 2014 11:03 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Still within my 48 hours of mourning and I admit I did not notice we are still mathematically Hawaii bowl eligible if we win out. Well, at least two more tailgates at Aloha stadium and hoping for three…

    Baseball has a “utility player”–is there a similar football title for Scott Harding?

  20. Kifi October 27, 2014 11:09 am

    Wow…when we win the next five games, we’ll qualify for the Hawaii bowl.

    “I blelieve.”

  21. nutmegger October 27, 2014 11:15 am

    my last post didn’t post.
    What happened??

  22. nutmegger October 27, 2014 11:17 am

    ok try again,

    Time to bring in the sports psychologists. The team needs to get past the losses, visualize success, and believe they can win. I think the problem is a mental/mind issue. Meditation might help.


  23. al October 27, 2014 11:23 am

    Kifi…I blelieve, too.
    Wow, that’s tough to say.

  24. al October 27, 2014 11:24 am

    I truly blelieve that coach chow really does care for and love his players.

  25. Kifi October 27, 2014 11:26 am

    So we lose by an average of 4.6 points per game. That is a marked improvement over 2013 (-11.4 points) and 2012 (-14.5 points) per game.

    2014: -4.6 pts. (20.6/25.2)
    2013: -11.4 pts. (27.4/38.8)
    2012: -14.5 pts. (21.2/ 35.7)

    So we’ve got three phases to the game, offense, defense, and special teams. If each phase can make a 2 point contribution, then we can cover the 4.6 point deficit. That’s the way that we can win five of the remaining games.

    “I believe.”

  26. Makai October 27, 2014 11:28 am

    Bottom line Norm Chow’s job is to win football games. He had the chance to recruit his players and develop them. 4 wins against FBS schools and not very good ones either. It’s time to move on.

  27. BigWave96744 October 27, 2014 11:32 am

    On a happy note, Donnie King’s uncle travelled all the way from Tennessee and got to see Donnie’s first TD.

  28. BigWave96744 October 27, 2014 11:45 am

    You know it’s bad when UH fans from the 70’s tell me this offense is the worst in UH history.

  29. letsgowarriors October 27, 2014 11:59 am

    I rather watch HS offenses than UH.

  30. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 12:08 pm

    “So we’ve got three phases to the game, offense, defense, and special teams. If each phase can make a 2 point contribution, then we can cover the 4.6 point deficit. That’s the way that we can win five of the remaining games.”

    What does this even mean?

  31. Bryson October 27, 2014 12:13 pm

    At this point Ben Jay has to weigh his options A)Retain Chow for the remainder of his contract and suffer possible loss in revenue suffer tho declining attendance B) Buyout the remainder of Chow’s contract and make a competent hire tho replace him

  32. Bryson October 27, 2014 12:17 pm

    I wouldn’t blame Coach Chow if he were to step down after the season with everything that’s been happening the stress eventually has to begin to weigh heavily on him

  33. Bryson October 27, 2014 12:21 pm

    I just hope that when the time comes and UH does hire a new Coach that they hire someone who is young energetic and someone they can rebuild the program around

  34. Ernie October 27, 2014 12:28 pm

    Bowl game or no bowl game, Coach Chow is a class coach. Look at the coach at Florida State and his handling of Jameis Winston. The guy should be locked up in jail. Too bad too that our most winningest coach in previous past history could not develop the characters of the quarterback and receiver who went to the Sugar Bowl. Football is just a small part of a successful life. Education and the right education preceeds winning games.

  35. A-House October 27, 2014 12:31 pm


    did you not hear his comment exiting the locker room for the 2nd half – he said something to the effect the UH must play more “conservative” in the second half – and, that with a 10 – 6 lead.

  36. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 12:39 pm

    Well, you see what all his conservativeness got us this deep into his tenure. For the record, norm chow hasn’t been in charge of a good offense since 2004 (and in fact, most of the offensive numbers for the teams he was a part of since his tennessee titan years are downright ugly), so i guess i’m not really surprised in retrospect that the norm chow experience is what it is.

  37. A-House October 27, 2014 12:41 pm

    well, Chow says he is not a quitter.

    OK, that leaves BJ, and I do not mean Itoman, MAJ Hawaii Air Guard, with 2 choices: keep him and continue losing income the next 2 years or fire him and hire a young, but experienced, upcoming coach and pay the $1 million severance pay – dollar wise, lose $1 million or more either way.

  38. A-House October 27, 2014 12:42 pm

    there is NO way that UH will win and qualify for the Hawaii Bowl – any takers???

  39. st. anthony trojan October 27, 2014 12:42 pm

    mr. kifi… # 23…
    is that due to the defense..playing better…
    or we scoring more points…

    sort of skewed if you are alluding to the fact the offense is getting better…
    thanks for ur hard work digging up them figures..
    try give us the defense now …so we can get a ‘TRUE’ picture.. why the improvement.for the 3 years mentioned…if you have the time..

    is good most of remaining games are away… can always turn off the TV..if get to bad.. n go wash the dishes maybe…

  40. oneseason October 27, 2014 12:46 pm

    I thought coach McMackin showed exceptional loyalty to his team and UH by agreeing to forego 50% of his remaining contract, leaving $550K for UH as I recall. Considering that his team missed going to a bowl in the year he was fired by 2 points, I thought that was extremely charitable on his part.

  41. Old School Dave October 27, 2014 12:50 pm

    Any injuries from the Nevada game? Is Ikaika almost back to 100% from his back injury and will he be ready against USU? I don’t think he was fully recovered against Nevada.

  42. Whats Up October 27, 2014 12:51 pm

    I don’t care if Utah State has it’s 5th string QB in, as long as the Woolsey and the Hawaii Offense keeps going 3 & out. Utah State will win by 30 points. I watched the last Utah State game and even with there 3rd and 4th string QB the offense still put up points and a bunch in the 4th quarter. This game is going to another game Hawaii is not covering a 2 point spread!

    Utah State 41
    Hawaii 13

  43. Inyoface October 27, 2014 12:54 pm

    If IW starts, guarantee loss.

  44. Ipu Man October 27, 2014 12:55 pm

    UH 23
    USU 21
    Go Bows!

  45. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 1:00 pm

    i’ll take that bet. it’s not even about being a “true fan” or whatever. it’s about being realistic. I’ve seen absolutely nothing so far that would make me believe that this team can rip off 5 straight wins, especially with a road game looking at colorado state.

  46. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 1:00 pm

    i’ll take that bet. it’s not even about being a “true fan” or whatever. it’s about being realistic. I’ve seen absolutely nothing so far that would make me believe that this team can rip off 5 straight wins, especially with a road game looming at colorado state.

  47. Otto-matic October 27, 2014 1:16 pm

    No blame Woolsey the receivers keep dropping the pass?

  48. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:18 pm

    I forgot if it was an NFL team or a T25 fb team that used four(4) different qbs this past week? That being said, I’d like see what this other UH qbs can do?

  49. Akamai October 27, 2014 1:20 pm

    I think chow is getting the exact results he in his subconscious mind, desires.

    For observers, his first priority seems to be, keep game close, avoid blowout. Don’t look like a fool, don’t look stupid. Get respectability. Thus, his conservative play.

    Second priority is, it would be nice to pull out a victory.

    What explains this psychology. It is not the players who need a sports psychologist, it is the Head Coach.

    Chow has placed too much pressure on himself . He is too uptight.

    The reason he has put so much pressure on himself is because he was passed over for a head coaching position, a position he coveted, for too long. Rather than a decision based on the best interests of the program, I view the dissing of Miano and Aranda, as Chow’s ego gone wild. So too, the hot headed episode with Reardon.

    An ego so suppressed and boiling with hostility over being passed over for so long, finally achieving and expressing the power it had coveted for or so many years.

    So Chow returns to Hawaii and finally gets his chance to be, HC. He wants so badly, to prove he should have been a head coach years ago . But he doesn’t want to take the necessary big risks to do so, so much a must, with a program like Hawaii’s. He doesn’t want to take big risks because you could flop badly and suffer a blowout loss.

    I remember Jones, on his way to the Sugar Bowl, suffering humiliating blowout road defeats at Boise State with QB Chang.

    If you aren’t tough enough to take such defeats and bounce back, you aren’t tough enough. If you aren’t tough enough, how can you ask the same of your players.

    If you are afraid of risk, you get what we have. Close, boring losses. Greatness never came from such a timid mind set. Ask Steve Jobs. Ask the first man to step on the moon. Ask all those men who stormed the beach at Normandy.

  50. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:21 pm

    re #44, wow lau, lau!
    must be the budwiser making me spell (this for these), which made me also spell Budweiser wrong as well.

  51. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:22 pm

    feelin no pain.

  52. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:24 pm

    Well, at least I’m at home and not driving. Just gotta find the toilet.

  53. Kifi October 27, 2014 1:26 pm

    So we lose by an average of 4.6 points per game. That is a marked improvement over 2013 (-11.4 points) and 2012 (-14.5 points) per game.

    Year: Pont differential (Hawaii points scored per game avg./Opp. points scored per game avg.)

    2014: -4.6 pts. (20.6/25.2)
    2013: -11.4 pts. (27.4/38.8)
    2012: -14.5 pts. (21.2/ 35.7)

    In actuality the defense has improved quite a bit from 2013. It is time for the offense to step up and make up the 4.6 point difference.

    “I believe.”

  54. Otto-matic October 27, 2014 1:28 pm

    We need to be patient, we can’t be changing coaches every 3 years. We are not a top tier program so we need to accept the good years with the bad.

  55. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:28 pm

    Back in my younger drinking days when in the bar drinking we could always call for the nurse; correction, the hostess. burp.

  56. mctruck October 27, 2014 1:31 pm

    end story.

  57. cocobean October 27, 2014 2:10 pm

    #11, AF. You kind of aired the sentiments I posted last week. Even after the NV loss I’m still hoping Chow can turn things around. It’s the best case scenario for the program. Those that want him out are correct in their viewpoint based on his record. For them it’s not just the number of losses but the manner in which they lost. I’m just as exasperated. Chow has not shown he knows how to be a head coach. His initial staff left much to be desired. It was only at the prodding of BJ that he reluctantly made changes to the defensive staff. Him aside, the offensive staff are a bunch of neophytes that don’t have enough experience to fall back upon when their initial strategies aren’t working. They don’t seem to have contingencies on hand to counter adjustments made by the opposing defense.

    Chow has his shortcomings for sure but I still want him to succeed. When the measuring stick on is job performance is wins only, he should have been out of here last year. I’m more inclined to measure his overall performance by how close we are to chasing championships again. I do think we’re closer to doing that than last year and based on returnees, the return of the injured, the addition of his first class of mission recruits we should be closer next year. If by a miracle he’s still around next year he should bring in an experienced OC.

  58. tom October 27, 2014 2:49 pm

    To me, Rolo will always be a hero. What he did as a QB was nothing short of miraculous.

    Whether he would be good as an OC or Head Coach, I don’t know. He did recruit IW as a QB for Hawaii.

  59. islandman October 27, 2014 3:01 pm

    Utah St is 4th in the nation in rushing defense, 89 yds per game; third in the nation in sacks, 3.88 per game.

    4th in forced turnovers with 22; 3rd in the nation in tackles for loss at 9.1 per game. 7th in nation in forcing three and outs at 6 per game.

  60. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 3:05 pm

    cocobean: how can you be close to chasing championships when you’re not even posting anything close to a winning record?

  61. Warrior Dave October 27, 2014 3:08 pm

    Starting to laugh out loud when I read Chow needs to hire an experienced OC. What for??? His mentality is that it’s his team and he’s the best OC in the world. This will never change… give it up please.

  62. islandman October 27, 2014 3:15 pm

    55. — He did hire Aaron Price for awhile. Price is at Tulane as QB coach and his brother is OC. Tulane isn’t doing that well .

  63. Mokihana October 27, 2014 3:36 pm

    So, a player like fifth year senior Donnie King needs to ask for a ” shot ” to get in the game?

  64. st. anthony trojan October 27, 2014 3:54 pm

    yea kinda sad when player has to ‘beg’ coach to play…
    college should be a good n happy experience for the players..
    feel sorry for muraoka especially… n vele n bukowski.. n others..

    coach has to realize that he can make a good experience 4 them…by
    just allowing them on the field

    few years ago…the basketball team had a player.. who was very very poipular with the fans.. forgot his name.. but they always chanted his name for coach to put him in.. n coach did at times…

    n even if we lost.. fans went home happy.. cuz he entered the game..
    n was not calling for wallaces head…that makes a difference with ‘happy campers’ n grouches… which we are seeing to much on here.. me included.. he he he

  65. ArcumFortis October 27, 2014 4:14 pm

    55. WD. If we don’t win most of our remaining games (and look good in any we don’t win) it will be moot. Coach Chow will probably be terminated. But he’s a smart man. If he is retained I hope he is smart enough to realize there are problems on the offensive side and that changes are needed. Are you saying that his arrogance will blind him and not allow him to do the obvious? I hope you are wrong, sad situation if you are right.

  66. pollypicador October 27, 2014 4:19 pm

    If you are an OC and see that your offense runs better with the QB taking snaps under center wouldn’t you want to ride this pony till the other team can stop you?

    Wouldn’t you want to give the other team’s defense a different look? Or shed the appearance of predictability of always showing the same formation of the QB always taking all the snaps out of the shotgun?

    In other words wouldn’t a seasoned OC want to mix it up?

    In the Wyoming game UH’s OC had his thinking cap on… and a good majority of the snaps started with the QB taking the snap under center. The result? The team was successful, offense crisp, RB hit the holes and took handoffs with a full head of steam, play action passes opened up, and, most importantly, it kept the Wyoming defense on it’s toes.

    In preceding games with San Diego State and Nevada it begs the question what happened to the OC’s thinking cap he had in the Wyoming game as the QB taking snaps under center in those games were minimized. Why? If you’re an OC and your offense found new found success with the QB starting the offense and taking the snap under center with success wouldn’t you want to continue doing this?

    Yet in the San Diego State game the QB took snaps under center sparingly.

    And in the Nevada game (guess what?) the QB took the snap under center practically non-existent. Why?

    UH needed to turn the tables on Nevada, control the running game, keep moving the ball, and keep the ball out of Nevada’s hands. Textbook thinking. Yet the opposite scenario played out-3 and outs, punt…3 and outs, punt. And, questionably, the OC didn’t even visit his newfound success he had in the Wyoming game (starting the offense with the QB under center, mixing it up).

    Lastly in last year’s Nevada game the running game had it’s moments and did find success with the QB under center and handing the ball off to the RB. It worked well. This is the breakthrough….bread and butter, textbook thinking, keeps the opponents defense on it’s toes by mixing (and countering) it up. Yet the head coach with his 40 years of experience doesn’t see this…doesn’t continue what gave his team success in the Wyoming game and this tells me that something is patently wrong with his coaching.

  67. cocobean October 27, 2014 4:38 pm

    4-P. Again I know you measure success by win totals. I don;t want to get into a long explanation why I think the team is better this year than last and why I think they’ll be better next. You know where I’m coming from.

    Warrior D. If Chow is around next year and that’s a big if, I believe one of the stipulations will be he hire an OC. Take last year when BJ said he’s retaining Chow. He said he’ll be meeting with Chow and one of the discussion points was staff evaluations. You knew right then Kaumeyer would be let go. I think BJ is smart enough to know this year’s failure is on the offense. IF he retains Chow I’m pretty sure either the QB coach or the WR coach will be swapped out for someone with more OC capabilities.

  68. pollypicador October 27, 2014 4:51 pm

    First caller to the Animals Show is a women…sounded elderly

    She rambles on. She’s angry…and frustrated with the Warrior football team and Chow. She probably said the words that a lot of listeners were thinking…as the gist of her rambling is that she can’t take this anymore.

    She sounded very sincere.

    However, predictably, she jumped ship as she ends the call by saying to the effect that she is discontinuing her donations to Na Koa.

    The point is that it got me to thinking of the residual losses to the school, where presently talks is focused on losses of season ticket revenues. Yet other entities are suffering (like Na Koa) and should be taken into account. With so many supporters frustrated with Chow and his football team and more supporters jumping ship the school needs to make a critical decision regarding Chow. It might be the type of decision that a doctor is faced with cutting off a limb to save the heart. .

  69. pollypicador October 27, 2014 5:16 pm

    Per UH’s web site:

    UH-CSU Football Game To Air On ESPNU

    That makes 5 games this season.

    Happy to see. But does the Warriors appearing on national tv add money to the school?

  70. Frank Mauz October 27, 2014 5:18 pm

    What is UH athletics doing about promoting Scott Harding for All-American honors?
    Surely he is a strong candidate for first-team punter

  71. Fei Jai October 27, 2014 5:22 pm

    I stopped believing after season one.

    At this point in the season, only interesting things remaining are guessing: (1) turnstile count and (2) date of termination and/or departure for norm.

    Winning begets more winning; losing begets more losing.

    The name Norm is now synonymous with the word Losing. Used in a sentence. If Norm is your coach, you will have a losing program.

    I don’t see any more wins for remainder of season, all things considered.

  72. Fei Jai October 27, 2014 5:26 pm

    For remainder of season…

    Utah State by 14
    Colorado State by 21
    San Jose State by 13
    UNLV by 14
    Fresno State by 17

  73. Fei Jai October 27, 2014 5:27 pm

    But I did hope.

    The hope was for the program and the players.

  74. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 5:46 pm

    cocobean: i’m just saying that the assertion that you can have a 5-26 record (or whatever the case may be) and a team that’s currently 2-6 and will most likely finish with 4 wins at most, ranked at or near the bottom at almost every single statistical category on offense and low to mid tier on defense can still be “chasing championships” (Becuase chasing rings is a separate issue than win/loss record) is bizarre.

  75. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 5:48 pm

    i mean really, aren’t ALL teams ultimately chasing championships and working and recruiting hard to get there?

  76. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 5:48 pm

    for the people who are like “we can’t fire a coach after three years (even though that’s the usual cycle), we’re not a big school. we have to wait it out.” i’m assuming you guys were saying the same line during von appen’s years. if not, why?

  77. Willie October 27, 2014 6:31 pm

    Just finished seeing KITV sports. Very glad to hear that Mrs. Chow is doing well with her recovery.

    Hearing Coach Chow reference “luck” is a inference of desperation in my opinion. Hey just win, wrap up when you tackle and stop playing not to lose.

  78. islandman October 27, 2014 6:34 pm

    73. …. 6 – 26 .

  79. el burro sabio October 27, 2014 6:35 pm

    4P, with an 0-7 record, von Appen pulled Dan Robinson ahead 13-0. After the game he said he wanted to try something different. Obviously he was 0-8 after the game. That single act was grounds to fire him with 2 years to go on his contract.

  80. lawaia October 27, 2014 6:46 pm

    The Hawaii Warrior World should change its name to Hawaii Comedy Club. The past few weeks reading the comments of some posters have made me laugh so hard that it relieved my everyday stress. We have Head Coaches, Offensive Coaches, Defensive Coaches and even an Athletic Director. I truly appreciate your

  81. Ipu Man October 27, 2014 6:51 pm

    I think the reason the coach had Ikaika in the shotgun was to protect him
    from further injury. Even Tony Romo in tonight’s game had to go shotgun

  82. A-House October 27, 2014 7:14 pm

    did someone mention arrogance?

    from the get go, Chow displayed, IMHO, arrogance by hiring grad assistants to be full time assistants; not one, but a whole bunch

    first time HC with a bunch of inexperienced assistant coaches is a recipe for disaster plus Chow’s conservative offensive play calling is not movement in the right direction

    as I posted earlier, we want to see UH destroy opponents like they did against BYU in 1998 and 1990 or was it 1999 and 2000 – the latter with a #4 national ranking and the Heisman trophy winner to boot!

    Coach Chow – you may not be quitter, but look around you and see how the forest is bending away from you!

  83. A-House October 27, 2014 7:21 pm


    Chow could have used Beau Rilley – my prediction is Beau will never smell game time in 2014

    if Chow goes will Zwahlen still keep his commitment to UH inasmuch as the “tie” was between his dad and Chow?

    another item to consider is if the ax falls in late November – selection of a new HC will take time { maybe in place by late Jan 2015 with NLI only 10 – 15 days away – 2015 recruiting may go down the drain as those commitments no longer have an allegiance to UH.

    BJ got to make the tough decision soon or 2015 and 2016 will be “gone and lost forever” oh me darling Clemintine!!!

  84. pollypicador October 27, 2014 7:32 pm


    With 5 games remaining the odds of Harding making an All-American team at punter is still very much a strong possibility.

    That’s what I want to root for.

    I think Harding ranks number one in pinning the opposition inside their twenty.

    Currently Harding has to be in the conversation… and with a strong finish I hope he surprises and makes a spot. It would be very deserving way to cap off his career amid all the hurdles/injuries/late hits/wear and tear/old age/newcomer to American football… that he has gone through.

  85. oneseason October 27, 2014 7:35 pm

    If a team wants to take advantage of coach Chow’s “conservative” strategy, they might play their scout team offense in the first half, and stay about even with UH. Then in the second half, open it up with their A-game.

  86. pollypicador October 27, 2014 8:05 pm

    Re-Chow’s arrogance

    Here’s one for A-House…and to the fans of comedy central. Have a nice laugh.

    An example of Chow’s arrogance.

    Soon after Chow was hired he was asked the question on why he didn’t hire Rolo as his OC. Now keep in mind Rolo is looking for a job and his future is filled with a lot of uncertainty. Yet Chow was quoted as saying he didn’t hire Rolo because Chow thought it was better for Rolo’s “professional development” that he take the steps and find a job on the mainland/elsewhere. That’s arrogance. Rolo wanted here. Chow sent him packing and then has the audacity to publically say that he was concerned for rolo’s professional development. Huh? At that point on, I knew that Chow was a fake. What did Chow do instead with his hiring of an OC? He hired a coach that was part friend (reoccurring theme with Chow), part dinosaur (old, ancient) and part out of touch (overwhelmed) with the demands of the job. Chow’s first choice as an OC lasted 1 year. Chow’s second choice as an OC lasted less than six months. Chow’s third choice as an OC is a GA, greenhorn. Meanwhile rolo was flagrantly overlooked/sidestepped amongst Chow’s arrogance. It doesn’t make sense.

  87. cocobean October 27, 2014 8:43 pm

    4-P. #73. Never said we’d be chasing championships this year. I thought I was clear that going strictly be record Chow should be out of here. I didn’t want to rehash what’s already been said but some people myself included have said we do see improvements. First is the conditioning program. Beemer has more than earned his paycheck. I expect better results the longer he is here. Second is the upgrade in the staff. Clune and Gouveia on D and Naole on O. Add an experienced OC and the staff should be good to go. Third is the returnees incuding those lost to injury, the greyshirts, the redshirts, the kids returning from their missions plus the 2015 recruiting class. I see improvements in the staff and personnel from last year and expect those improvements will continue next year. I don’t think we’re that far off from being a winning program.

    Aside from good QB play, I think our biggest area of need is a cohesive offensive philosophy and the right man to teach/preach it. I don’t think the players have fully bought in to what Chow has been doing offensively but are too loyal to speak up.

    The main reason I stand up for a coach I don’t have complete faith in is because I’ve been following the team since my teen years and will continue to follow them till the end of my days. I’ve seen every coaching change since Dave Holmes. Some changes were because the coach left for a bigger challenge but most were fired when the public out cry for their heads were too loud for the school to ignore. The smoothest transitions were when the coaches’ left voluntarily, the roughest were when public opinion demanded it.

    P-4. I told you if you asked me for an explanation of my views that it’ll be long one.

  88. cocobean October 27, 2014 8:53 pm

    pollyp. Chow may be arrogant but he’s also sincere. Don’t you think Rolo is a better OC now then he would have been if he stayed? He learned the elements of the pistol from the man that is credited with developing it. Mix that with what he learned about the R & S from the man that brought it into D1 football. Both experiences are priceless.
    Fake? it takes one to…….

  89. 4-Prong October 27, 2014 9:08 pm

    i dont’ fault norm chow at all for not retaining rolo. norm chow is free to hire or not hire an OC. he may have felt that rolo didnt’ fit in with what his vision of UH football should be. Although, seriously. you don’t need an offensive coordinator to run up the middle and be ranked 111th in passing (or wahtever that number is) out of 119 teams.

    if norm chow wants to chase championship with “conservative offense” (which is pretty much why he got fired from tennessee, UCLA, utah, and so on), then so be it.

  90. Kifi October 27, 2014 9:10 pm

    I’m curious to know why there are some that don’t believe that Rolo is ready to be a head coach? What else does he need to do to make himself ready for a prime-time head coaching position.

  91. el burro sabio October 27, 2014 9:17 pm

    I don’t fault any coach, governor, mayor or whomever for not hiring someone they don’t know. Easy to say that he/she should have hired this or that person when you don’t have the job.

    Mr. A-House, you making yourself crazy ;). Just write to Chow already.

  92. st. anthony trojan October 27, 2014 9:23 pm

    ipu # 80…if the man is hurt and or not 100 % he should not play… because it puts a strain on the other players…i am sure he said he was ok.. n wanted to play..n many many great players play hurt n perform well..on a individual basis i how it should be looked at..
    if the QB under center was doing good n moving the ball…why do the shotgun…n limit the whole offense to that style.. when history tells has not worked in the past.. yet as sumone here pointed out..QB under was producing yards..

    ikaika.. should have been resting his back..or what ever ails him..maybe the out come be different.. we will never know..

  93. cocobean October 27, 2014 9:36 pm

    4-P. I know you know that Chow was fired only once, by the Titans. You have your reasons for saying otherwise.

  94. Kifi October 27, 2014 9:40 pm

    Phillip Montgomery
    Lincoln Riley
    Beau Baldwin
    Chris Klieman
    Nick Rolovich
    Lane Kiffin
    Derek Dooley
    Jon Embree
    Jeff Tedford

  95. nanakuli October 27, 2014 9:58 pm

    Fired by UCLA.

  96. Z October 27, 2014 10:00 pm

    Unfortunately Chow can not see the field from the sidelines the way JJ could. After a bad play I would always train my binocs on JJ to see who he was yelling at. Easy way to see who screwed up. Chow needs to check game film to see what happened.

  97. Z October 27, 2014 10:05 pm

    83. What bothered me is after making a comment about Rolo he goes and make a GA his OC. Fans here knew we had a good OC in Rolo. Ault was quick to grab him. He wanted someone who could help him develop his quarterbacks. Hmmm…do our quarterbacks need someone like that?

  98. Z October 27, 2014 10:08 pm

    87. Actually Chris Ault is one coach who could turn things around here and he has done it on the cheap in the past for Nevada.

  99. kev-1 October 27, 2014 10:55 pm

    cocobean … RE: Rolo’s development. Shouldn’t there have been just as much offensive wisdom for Chow to pass down to Rolo if he were kept here? I mean, the whole reason he was hired was because of his offensive mind and years of experience.

    The fact is that Chow didn’t want to keep Rolo, which as 4 prong pointed out was his right as the new HC. There was no need for Chow to sugar coat it with a bs sincere excuse for not keeping him.

  100. kev-1 October 27, 2014 11:03 pm

    If we really think about it, what can we really expect with such youth and inexperience in coaching at key spots on the staff?

    A lot of people are mentioning Chow’s arrogance. I think that is the clearest example of his arrogance right there. The fact that he thinks his experience is enough to carry a recent GA play caller, recent GA wide receiver coach, etc.

    Seriously, take a look at our weaknesses this year … QB, play calling, and Wide Receiver. These position coaches? Wynn and Matthews. Both grossly inexperienced.

    Look at our teams strengths … the running backs, oline, and defense. The coaches there have experience.

    Nuff said.

  101. Fei Jai October 27, 2014 11:08 pm

    It’s chow time!, baby !! Yes. Thank god we have norm. He’s the savior.

    He might need five years to prove it though.

    Chow time!!!

  102. cocobean October 28, 2014 12:12 am

    kev-1. Look at the situation back in 2012. Rolo had 1 season experience as an OC in the R & S. They had no prior relationship. Chow’s intention was to be HC and to call the plays from the field. He brought Lee out of retirement to be OC in name only. He said at the time he trusted Lee’s knowledge and his role would be Chow’s eye in the sky. He’d give Chow feedback on what he was observing from the coach’s box while Chow called the plays.

    No sense going the 2013 debacle witrh Price.

    As for this year I have always been critical of Chow for going with Wynn as de facto OC. Thought he should have hired an OC rather than a running backs coach.
    I’ve been a broken record in the number of times called Chow out on that.

  103. cocobean October 28, 2014 12:15 am

    FJ. I always thought you were funnier when you posted as Chow’s Doctor.

  104. Tempmanoa October 28, 2014 3:03 am

    Coaches ultimately succeed by making good choices– good decisions exercising good judgment. Chow has made one bad decision after another. He turned away Aranda and Rolo– two up and coming coaches. Aranda is now at Wisconsin as DC (we finally hired a guy from Aranda’s staff as DC), and Rolo is at Nevada. And he hired in their place friends of his as pointed out– none of which succeeded and are now gone. He also turned down two good young coaches with Utah and BYU backgrounds (one from Kahuku and another with strong ties there)– they were upset they were not hired and told friends here that Chow was making a mistake on his staff. His decision not to run an offense that could use the talent we had at receiver and QB went badly and he has acknowledged that. He rejected a running QB for a pocket passer and now we are back to the running QB. Chow wasted two precious years with bad staff and a bad DC. He has yet to fix the bad decisions that still haunt him.

  105. Maddog50 October 28, 2014 4:15 am

    The sky is falling and we’re all gonna die—no way. 5 games left overall it looks to be a possibility of winning 2 maybe 3. That is just a possibility no guarantee. The Aggies come to town with a vaunted defense and gaudy numbers….except that Wake Forest 2-6 and UNLV 2-6 had a total of essentially “0” rushing yards. One of the other victims was Idaho State. So what and who cares….but if everbody gets there head out of their collective rear-ends we have more than a chance. CSU is gonna be different I believe because JI returns to the line-up. So there undying optimism that is the way I choose to live. And I will continue to support the program thru Na Koa because my passion is such….Go Warriors!!!!

  106. Old School Dave October 28, 2014 5:54 am

    Well said, Maddog50. I continue to give what I can to Na Koa. Wish I could give more, but I still want to support the players and see the team be successful, in spite of “it” all.

  107. Stephen Tsai October 28, 2014 5:55 am

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