The quarterback draw

The referee usually has to be alerted when an offensive lineman will be used as an eligible receiver. The alert now is that Sean Schroeder, Ikaika Woolsey and Taylor Graham (and, possibly, Jeremy Higgins) will be eligible quarterbacks for Saturday’s homecoming game against Colorado State. Asked which quarterback would play, head coach Norm Chow said, “All three. Why not?”

Indeed. Why not?

* * * * *

There apparently is a bad case of flu-like symptoms spreading through the team. This isn’t what they meant by football fever.

* * * * *

As noted in today’s S-A football notes, kicker Ceejay Santos has been recalled to the team. There is a possibility he will be used for kickoffs against CSU.

As for his unique first name, Santos explained, his parents had picked out the name “Jaycee” if they were to have a girl. When they had a boy instead, they reversed the name.


  1. Stephen Tsai October 23, 2013 5:58 am

    I noticed your comment on going with four wides. UH’s base offense is a wide formation with three-receiver sets. They were in four-wide sets six times each in the San Jose State and UNLV games.

  2. Stephen Tsai October 23, 2013 6:01 am

    UH incorrectly listed Sean Schroeder as the QB during a fourth-quarter series against UNLV. He was credited with two incompletions on passes thrown by Ikaika Woolsey.

  3. A-joe October 23, 2013 6:20 am

    Awesome Morning Tsaikos!

  4. PolyMom October 23, 2013 6:21 am

    Wow! Top 5. Good morning Hawaii fans. Time to get up!

  5. Rambow October 23, 2013 6:24 am

    Top ten go warriors

  6. Rambow October 23, 2013 6:24 am

    Top ten go warriors

  7. wafan October 23, 2013 6:35 am

    Good morning!

    Top 10, too.

  8. 3-Prong October 23, 2013 6:37 am

    Happy Hump-Day from Paradise. Dis is Da Week Gangee!

  9. UHfan808 October 23, 2013 7:01 am

    Good morning, Tsai-kos and Lurk-ers! 😀

  10. mo808 October 23, 2013 7:13 am

    Good Morning Folks!

  11. Wes'side Warrior October 23, 2013 7:24 am

    Morning, Gang!

    Oh noes! Not da flu! Get that stuff flushed from the system ASAP!!! Fully hydrated and ready to go! No lingering effects!

    Whatever we do, let’s play clean and minimize mistakes and penalties. And keep injuries to a minimum too! Need a good run to close out the season!

    Let’s go, Warriorz!

  12. A-House October 23, 2013 7:25 am

    Yikes!!! football is here and only 63 posts yesterday????????????

    this must be a firstest

  13. Ipu Man October 23, 2013 7:32 am

    Nehpets (Stephen spelled backwards), tell the team to take plenty vitamin D, morning noon and night. And double the vitamin C.

  14. al October 23, 2013 7:40 am

    Maybe we should start rotating the coaching staff, couldn’t be any worse than it is now.

  15. Aaron October 23, 2013 8:14 am

    chow will not play higgins.

  16. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 8:14 am

    14. I think it’s pretty obvious what the AD needs to do after this season. I know coaches should be given a minimum 3 years to show progress but when you are free falling at the rate Hawaii is at this point, It doesn’t take a genius to figure out we need to stop the bleeding now before we dig a deeper hole…

    I could be wrong but has a coach taken this many steps backwards ever and turned a program around? If there are more than 5 cases of that happening, maybe there is hope.

    But from 6-7 Mack to 3-9 Chow, to 0-6 Chow year 2, not much anyone can argue…

    One coach I respect a lot is Gary Anderson.. He took over Utah St when we would automatically chalk up the W. 2-9, to 4-8 to 4-8 to 7-6 to 11-2… He was given time but I think progress was noticed and those teams competed fairly quick…

  17. Darren October 23, 2013 8:23 am

    So what’s the 7th iteration of our starting o-line?

  18. huh? October 23, 2013 8:33 am


  19. UH_Fan_In_SD October 23, 2013 8:35 am

    Jeezy, I have been a Chow supporter all along, but this Saturday may be a turning point for me. I am looking at the second half of the season as season number 2.5 for Chow.. We’ve had two weeks off to prepare and rest up.. The young guys have games reps now… If we’re going to make any meaningful steps in year 3 (Chow probably needs 6-7 wins), then we probably should be able to pick up 3 wins in the second half (maybe 4 if USU or SDSU stumble)… I don’t see the personnel changing very much next year, so if we are banking on experience/reps we should see some improvement in the second half… Anything less than 3 wins might indicate we’re better making the change sooner than later…

    I do believe the Chow era has laid a strong foundation. It seems recruiting and facilities have improved. Regardless of Chow’s role in these improvements I’m bullish on UH’s future and the foundation that is being laid… now lets just win some game!

  20. papajoe2 October 23, 2013 8:42 am

    Good morning!
    Top 20?

  21. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2013 8:46 am

    #1 ST,

    Mahalo for that. Maybe Chow will break that record and go with 4-wide seven times the next game…”Why not?” 🙂

  22. huh? October 23, 2013 8:49 am

    must be Halloween with the masked im-poster. be afraid. be very afraid.

  23. boya_jr October 23, 2013 8:51 am

    Reading about the BART strike took me away from reading the blog past few days. Strike is over, so I’m back to focusing on the team. Go Warriors!

  24. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 8:59 am

    19. I hope to see improvement this weekend but after seeing Colorado St. destroy Wyoming on the road, it has me worried. Hawaii had 2 weeks to prepare for UNLV and we pretty much did the same thing we done all season.

  25. (Jesse)James October 23, 2013 9:04 am

    Good morning Tsaikos….

    One Goal. One Game. One Team.

  26. primo123 October 23, 2013 9:09 am

    I’m a UH supporter. Its fun to talk about the coaches, etc, etc, but regardless of whomever the coach is, I’ll go to the game and support the school.

    lets not forget, Chow’s never been a head coach and has never rebuilt a program before. Not making excuses for him, just stating a fact.

    Recruiting will determine his fate.

  27. boolakanaka October 23, 2013 9:10 am

    Aloha all, fall is upon us…the low in New Haven tonight, 35 degrees–brrrrr. Glad to be getting home next week. Let’s go Warriors, time to start the turnaround.

  28. primo123 October 23, 2013 9:10 am

    Colorado St 37 UH 34

    The flu bug hurt.

  29. iwonderwhytheyhateme October 23, 2013 9:20 am

    Any estimates on this weeks attendance? I’m thinking 20,000-22,000 range. I’m hoping homecoming entices more people to show up though.

  30. huh? October 23, 2013 9:28 am

    The jeezy logic?

    “But from 6-7 Mack to 3-9 Chow, to 0-6 Chow year 2, not much anyone can argue…”

    WTF does Mack have to do with it?

    “One coach I respect a lot is Gary Anderson.. He took over Utah St when we would automatically chalk up the W. 2-9, to 4-8 to 4-8 to 7-6 to 11-2… He was given time but I think progress was noticed and those teams competed fairly quick…”

    Last I checked 3-9 beats 2-9 and we still have 6 games to go in season two. Then jeezy logic is if we win 4 of the last six and four in year three, Chow should get 5 years. Nice.

  31. nanakuli October 23, 2013 9:28 am

    I wonder how many fans will attend the UH homecoming game? Watching the game with friends and family on PPV is like a “SuperBowl” party.

  32. primo123 October 23, 2013 9:33 am


    Do we count the alumni on the field? the band? the ushers? the food and drink people?

    If so, 22K sounds about right.

  33. primo123 October 23, 2013 9:35 am


    Low priced big screen HDTV’S……..that’s the reason for the stadium attendance dwindling….

    UH Marketing needs to come with better ideas to keep the current fans and get the new ones to the game.

  34. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 9:49 am

    Wouldn’t you think after all these years UH sports would make taking the flu shot mandatory?

  35. cocobean October 23, 2013 9:50 am

    #31. That’s one of the puzzles the UHAD has to solve regarding revenue – ticket sales vs PPV.

    What PPV has done is create a new “tradition” for some. Friends/families pot lucking at home instead of tailgating at the Aloha. There must be a new generation of youngsters growing up tossing a football around their yard, getting a plate of grindz then settling in to watch the game on Papa’s 72″ Hi-def.

  36. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 9:54 am

    Note to all would be burglars, put mask on before entering premises. Just saw the surveillance video on the ‘Tiser breaking news and thought, “what a babooze”.

  37. madeinhawaii October 23, 2013 9:55 am

    Flu-like symptoms? probably sinus allergies. Change of season… Hit me hard these past two days, as well.. All the symptoms of the flu, muscle aches, chills, and a seemingly sore throat but no fever.

  38. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 10:07 am

    Since the games are tomorrow, who will it be, OIA West or OIA East?

    Kahuku or Mililani
    Campbell or Farrington?

    I’ll go with the OIA West.

  39. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 10:09 am

    Is there more sex on hump day?

  40. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 10:12 am

    Things are looking up for the Wahine Basketball team!

  41. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 10:13 am

    What’s the backstory on Santos being recalled?

  42. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 10:37 am

    30. What does Mack have to do with it? Chow took over a 6 win team coached by Mack. 6 wins dropped to 3…1 being Lamar. So Mack has nothing to do with Chow’s poor performance. But he is a measuring stick to see how bad weve gotten.

    And to answer your 2nd question. Gary Anderson didn’t win 2 games. He took over a 2 win team that was the laughing stock in college football and lead them slowly into a competitive upper MWC team. Get your facts correct..

  43. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 10:39 am

    Funny how some posters need to change screen names to protect their reputation of how stupid they are..

  44. Derek October 23, 2013 10:40 am

    When you don’t know who’s going to start after 6 games and numerous practices, or at least a pecking order for Homecoming Game this Saturday you are asking for trouble. Colorado State 45, Hawaii 24 and it’s not even going to be that close. We are getting ever close to 0-12. After this week, no chance at Utah State and at Navy. No chance at home against San Diego State, no chance at Wyoming, weary and broken, probably lose at home to Army. Note: Army leads the nation in rushing offense. No Head Coach can survive an 0-12 season. Just being realistic.

    Here’s this weeks blazin 5.
    Ohio, Ball State, Buffalo, Massachusetts, Northern Illinois. It’s the haves against the have nots. It worked last week.

    Upset Special: South Carolina over Missouri (The ole Ball Coach isn’t happy after last week)
    Best Bet: Auburn over Florida Atlantic (Malzahn is making me believe in these guys)
    Best Bet #2: Mississippi over Idaho – spread is -41, but should be more like -60.

  45. (Jesse)James October 23, 2013 10:41 am

    #39 JTL….Inquiring minds want to know….LMAO

  46. PONO October 23, 2013 10:45 am

    Like Big Al said, “just win baby”

  47. SteveM October 23, 2013 10:50 am

    Good morning everyone!

    Top 50!

  48. Shadow October 23, 2013 10:53 am

    16/24: You neither played the game nor coached the game nor ever been an AD & now your “qualified” to pass on judgement? Now your armchair QB facts are skewed too – UH had less than 1 week to prep for UNLV. At least get this (and other “facts” you use) correct to further your opinion.

  49. primo123 October 23, 2013 11:03 am

    Who’s a TRUE fan?

    If we go, 0-11, are you going to the last game?

  50. primo123 October 23, 2013 11:04 am

    Jeezy….quit bitching and comparing…….see you at the game?

  51. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 11:12 am

    Here’s a fact: Compulsive nose picking is called Rhinotillexomania.

    Another: Reno is farther west than Los Angeles.

    …just adding comments to get to at least 100…

  52. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 11:15 am

    Shucks, negatives in the stock market today, rally, rally, rally.

  53. Niho Mano October 23, 2013 11:15 am

    Rainbow Warrior Football…JUST WIN!!! is the battle cry…JUST WIN!!! JUST WIN!!! JUST WIN!!!

  54. al October 23, 2013 11:22 am

    #14…eh boy, go get your own blog name.
    false al or any others should have their post removed and their i.p. placed on suspension.
    tired of this crap or should i feel so honored?

  55. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 11:29 am

    Maybe there is more than one al. However, they do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

  56. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 11:35 am

    Can always use a proxy server if your ip address is blocked. You can also use various hotspots to access the WB.

  57. Marleysdad October 23, 2013 11:36 am

    Glad to see Kirkwood back. I know those that preach gloom & doom thought he gave up.

  58. Egan October 23, 2013 11:48 am

    I think I read that there were @8K at Kamehameha vs St Louis. This is the reason for dwindling attendance. High School kids don’t go to games, so why go when they are in college.

  59. cocobean October 23, 2013 11:53 am

    #54. I feel your anger. It’s a WTF moment when you see someone posting under your name.

  60. Inyoface October 23, 2013 12:07 pm

    Like I said yesterday, they need to play as if behind 14 points the whole game even if they’re ahead. There needs to be a sense of urgency and the mentality that they can win by smashing Colorado State in the mouth.

  61. Maile Tsai-Russ October 23, 2013 12:10 pm

    One big issue that is frequently overlooked is the frequency of penalties incurred.

    FBS: Fewest Penalties Per Game through October 22 –

    Tied for #105 (out of 123 FBS teams) with Kansas, North Carolina, Rutgers
    6 games
    45 penalties
    7.50 per game


    I don’t know if this stems from a lack of discipline, attention-to-detail, coaching or all of the above, but the team has to stop this self-inflicting damage…

  62. ALLAN October 23, 2013 12:15 pm


  63. whitey October 23, 2013 12:23 pm

    if i had a kicker who could kick it out of the end zone on the kickoff, i would use him. guess, the light finally went on for the coaches.

  64. Jeezy33 October 23, 2013 12:24 pm

    Of course I’m gonna be at the game..

    Also going to tell things like it is

  65. Maile Tsai-Russ October 23, 2013 12:24 pm

    62: Why are you yelling?

  66. primo123 October 23, 2013 12:29 pm

    tell it like it is, without being a whiner then.

  67. primo123 October 23, 2013 12:29 pm


    he doesnt know where his cap lock button is?

  68. primo123 October 23, 2013 12:30 pm


    OR as you get older, you dont hang around peeps that have a virus.

  69. primo123 October 23, 2013 12:32 pm


    or better yet, tell us how to make things better, and if you think changing the coach will do it, then how we going to pay off his contract, and who’s going to replace him? and for how much?

    otherwise, whining is just a waste of time and energy.

  70. whitey October 23, 2013 12:44 pm

    wonder if coach trapasso will recruit more baseball players from the outer island in the future. this year ws has 2 from the outer islands and one is a uh alumnus. the other would have been at uh as a football player under jj.

  71. madeinhawaii October 23, 2013 12:51 pm

    Eh… if attendance and interest keeps dropping in football, there won’t be enough revenue next season to pay Chow and his staff their salary, too. I suspect that the football program has been losing money since 2011. The added expense of being in the MWC hasn’t helped.

  72. madeinhawaii October 23, 2013 12:52 pm

    Oh.. and the recession is just beginning. oy… bumpy ride ahead. Hang on.

  73. Buffoman October 23, 2013 12:57 pm

    #67 Reading the post angst and then reading this one…well what a way to break tension. very funny and needed. Sometime the pundits get too serious and carried away.

    Thanks, Primo. That reminds me, time for a cold one (past noon).

  74. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 12:58 pm

    66. If someone is going to make a screen name to call me out on something, me replying to him isn’t whining… But call it like you want… I really don’t care…

    Whether I praise everything NC does or call it like it is, the results are still going to be the same every week…. Doesn’t change anything to me.

  75. SteveM October 23, 2013 1:00 pm

    “Flu-like symptoms” generally describes either typical upper respiratory or lower tummy symptoms. While I don’t wish it on anyone, lower tummy (or even novovirus) will pass in 2 days with or without medication and you will be fine. The other takes longer, although slightly less debilitating. Not an issue to ponder…

  76. jeezy33 October 23, 2013 1:01 pm

    69. The bigger question I ask you if how Hawaii will afford to pay for the deficit that is lost in ticket sales and donations? You lose fan base then it doesn’t matter how much you save by now firing the coach. You lose more by keeping him..

    Why do you think people foreclose homes throughout the country? Not that they want to. But it costs more to keep your home then it would be to get rid of it.

  77. boolakanaka October 23, 2013 1:08 pm

    59…I agree. I heard someone was planning to post under my screen name, but decided it against it, they said it took too much damn energy being that pretentious and smug.

  78. bowwar October 23, 2013 1:11 pm

    Has there been a change in the “kicking corps” on the UH football team to necessitate them calling back Ceejay onto the team? Did someone leave? So far this year, Hadden’s kick-offs have been pretty good and an improvement over previous years.

  79. primo123 October 23, 2013 1:23 pm


    Exactly… stop whining about Chow.

  80. primo123 October 23, 2013 1:27 pm


    you compare foreclosure and college head coaches?


    are you a comedian in your “other” job? hope so, cuz you’re really good.

  81. oldie October 23, 2013 1:28 pm

    Maybe we need to do something like this:

    Cover the Aloha Stadium field with a tapa design. It’s bound to disorient the opponents, just like the Boise State blue field does.

    Except UH doesn’t own or run the stadium. . .

  82. primo123 October 23, 2013 1:29 pm

    seems like the coaches are giving us another “story” to focus on.

    pulling a kicker out of the depths of the depth chart, makes headline news.

    feel good story?

    all day long!

  83. primo123 October 23, 2013 1:31 pm

    UH Marketing has to figure out how to capitalize on the “new” UH football watching tradition that’s been started by PPV and low priced big screen HDTV’s.

    How are they going to do that?

    How they going to bring the new blood to the stadium?

    We dont want excuses…..We want answers…..

  84. WWF October 23, 2013 1:47 pm

    It took half the season to activate CeeJay Santos, who can kick the ball out of the endzone on kickoffs?

  85. cocobean October 23, 2013 1:49 pm

    Sir boola. You know the game Chinese whispers? Something similar happened in the Halawa area. The word started out that boola blogged he’s going to England on business. By the time the 5th person heard it the story was boola was going to England to be knighted by QE. Don’t be surprised if people in the ‘hood call you SIR.

  86. boolakanaka October 23, 2013 1:58 pm

    85-Coco…Nah, everyone knows that the real reason I went across the pond is to run an errand for Halawa fafas, as they are big fans of crumpets and traditional English bread pudding.

  87. Buffoman October 23, 2013 2:14 pm

    #83 Maybe, there’s just not that much interest in football in Hawaii. I remember as a kid wanting to play midget football because all of my friends were playing. I could not make weight and could not make a team. There must have been 5 or 6 in close proximity and all of them were pretty full.

    As a parent of a young son, I figured I would get my son interested in football by playing flag football at an early age. Interestingly, I did not see the parks on a late afternoon or the weekend full of young guys playing pick up tackle, as we once did anywhere there was grass.

    Today, I see fewer young people in flag football, less Pop Warner teams and high schools having a difficult time fielding teams.

    BTW, i do not think they have “real” flag football as a part of PE as we once did in intermediate school these days. It’s not even a poor version of the “Hawaiian style” we played in tight spaces or on the road.

    So, with no feeder system where lots of young people play and enjoy the game then become adults and enjoy watching the games, we find ourselves with dying attendance at high school football (not like it was back in the day) and dying attendance at UH games.

    I think if one polled the students at UH and the community colleges a vast majority could care less about the football team, baseball team or whatever sport as they probably did not actively play it as a child and now has no or very little interest as a young adult.

    So, the older generation who grew up with a real love for football fading away, there is a dwindling pool of new fans in the wings to fill those empty seats.

  88. cocobean October 23, 2013 2:15 pm

    boola,just a little heads up…….

    When you’re back in the Islands sipping tea or coffee enjoying some crumpets and bread puddling. Make sure you don’t hold the cup handle with your pinkie sticking out. While in some places it’s a sign of class and good upbringing in Halawa it means something entirely different.

  89. boolakanaka October 23, 2013 2:24 pm

    88..dats why my all my pinkie fingers have been broken.

    And 87–You make a good observation, even at my local public HS, while not even a powerhouse, the tryouts for varsity was usually over 75-80 kids, with some folks actually being cut. That does not seem to be the case at present.

  90. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 2:26 pm

    Chalk up the no interest in sports to technology and lack of adult guidance toward sports.

  91. Warrior4Life October 23, 2013 2:32 pm

    #87 – How I started my interest in football was how you described it – playing tackle football with friends in parks, two-hand touch on the street in front of our homes, flag football during PE in intermediate. I think more kids nowadays play football on their Xboxes and PS3s. I know the I-9 league offers flag football for younger kids. When my son is older, I’ll sign him up for that since he’s already expressed interest in it.

    Good to start them young.

  92. papajoe2 October 23, 2013 2:36 pm

    #87 Buffo, I agree with what you are saying. Nowadays, they have very well organized soccer and many other sports that we didn’t have much of when we were young. In high school, there was basically, football, basketball and baseball. Oh yes, there were other sports going on like wrestling, golf, and volleyball, etc., but not as well organized as it is today with club teams and mainland travel for exposure. I’m guessing that ESPN, SportsWest, CNN, etc., showing the world in an instant, what other sports that a youngster can accomplish to get his/her notoriety, in this “look at me” generation.

  93. jimmy the lock October 23, 2013 2:39 pm

    Enough already, I don’t care about Kanye and Kim…lol

  94. primo123 October 23, 2013 2:41 pm

    The “smart” thing for a coach to do, is recruit heavily local, and play’m.

    This way the “families” going come to watch.

    Imagine a UH team full of Kahuku Red Raiders…..may not win, but the stands will be full!

  95. primo123 October 23, 2013 2:43 pm

    I read or heard somewhere…..on the East coast…the big up n coming sport is Lacrosse, NOT football.

    Too many head and knee injuries associated with football.

    The head ones might not affect you now, but later in life… parent wants to take that chance for their kid.

  96. Warrior Dave October 23, 2013 2:50 pm

    #43, haha so true!!!! Insecure with their initial post so they have to use another screen name to back up their weak okole post.

  97. primo123 October 23, 2013 2:54 pm

    who are these double – ghost posters? post some names so we can ban them.

  98. madeinhawaii October 23, 2013 2:57 pm


    At least they’re trying something here.

  99. primo123 October 23, 2013 2:57 pm

    3-0 boston bottom 2nd

    victorino batting with two men on.

  100. primo123 October 23, 2013 2:59 pm

    reached on an error

  101. primo123 October 23, 2013 3:01 pm

    4-0 booooston!

  102. HiFlyer October 23, 2013 3:02 pm

    World Series Boston up 4-0 1 out bases loaded B 2nd

  103. Warrior Dave October 23, 2013 3:03 pm

    Cards should put Kolton on 2nd base. The starter Kozma has 2 errors and we only in the 2nd inning. Go Shane!!!

  104. primo123 October 23, 2013 3:06 pm


  105. Warrior Dave October 23, 2013 3:21 pm

    Chow is in year 2 of a 5 year contract. As long as this years team is putting up points and keeping it close. Chow can go 0-12 and will come back next year. No way UH Admin will eat 1.7 million.

    Chow is recruiting better talent locally and on the mainland. If JJ had the skill players now with the exception of QB, I feel JJ would have out up double digit wins for all 10 years he was here.

    HOWEVER, if Chow plays all 4 QB’s this week. It would make me questioning his head coaching abilities. You just can’t be indecisive at this point of the season.

    Lastly, I met Ceejays grandfather when he decided to transfer home. Grandpa raved about his kickoff ability and Demo confirmed it in the article. If someone can rocket it into the end zone every time why not use him?? Grandpa also said his FG accuracy and range is something to see. Maybe it all coming true for Ceejay. Welcome to Warrior Nation CJ!!

  106. Jeezy33 October 23, 2013 3:29 pm

    80. Yes I am comparing … Paying a coach while losing support and money is comparable … Putting money into a house while value of house decreases is very similar to paying a coach while value of uh football plummets … Did u forget college football is a business ???

  107. Buffoman October 23, 2013 3:37 pm

    #94 I think you are on it. I agree that building the team with a LOT of local kids from all islands may start to regenerate the interest in the sport. The game then becomes more of a family and community friendly event as opposed to simply an event.

    WE may not rise to the top of the conferences quickly but it will build a base for both fans and future players.

    Good call. That’s worth another cold one!

  108. Slugger October 23, 2013 4:06 pm

    Get well, Warriors. Everyone needs to be at their best.


  109. cocobean October 23, 2013 4:07 pm

    #106. Jeezy. Your case for changing the coach is similar to the two sides of the arguement involving Mack. Make no mistake declining revenues was the main reason Mack was let go.

    One side of the arguement went – his record is not that bad. With declining revenues we can’t afford to buy him out and pay another coach. The other side was saying what you’re saying -with declining revenues we can’t afford not to buy him out.

  110. Slugger October 23, 2013 4:12 pm

    Hi, boya_jr! Good to meet you at the LV game.

    I think I’m more likely to root for St. Louis since I lived in MO & my bf is from there. But I like the BoSox. Sat to the right of the wall for a game & it’s a great ol’ stadium. Go, Hawaii boyz!

  111. wasabi October 23, 2013 4:17 pm

    109- how many times were macks teams in the bottom ten? Not the same at all…

  112. Andrew October 23, 2013 4:37 pm

    111. Wasabi

    He may have not had teams in the ESPM bottom 10 and his records may have been better, but Mack’s teams were often “no shows” in big games on the national stage. Along with getting to bowl games, how a team performs in them is also an important factor to look at when evaluating a coaches tenure and coach Mack was blown out twice to teams they really should have beaten.

    Of course Coach Chow’s record so far is horrible and there’s no way to sugarcoat that, but I will say that I like the fight and intensity that this years team has than any of the teams that coach Mack ever had. Many of us forget that the 2010 Co-WAC champ team was made up of a lot of players that were recruited by Coach Jones.

  113. Andrew October 23, 2013 4:37 pm


  114. cocobean October 23, 2013 4:47 pm

    #111. Zero.

    You’re missing my point. I’m not comparing who the better coach is. I’m comparing the arguement for letting Mack go as similar to the arguement for letting Chow go.

    Both situations are about money. What’s the financial impact of keeping Chow as opposed to the financial impact of letting him go. That’s all not making any judgements on coaching abilities.

  115. Jonj October 23, 2013 5:19 pm

    112 Andrew
    Didn’t jjs teams not show up in big games too?? Maybe just a hawaii curse.

    All of last season chow lost huge to teams we should have beat under Mack. And this year yes I like the fight of the team… But isn’t the majority of starters all Mack’s?? If u can’t see that the coaching is the problem the your blind!

  116. wasabi October 23, 2013 5:30 pm

    112- Not even close to the embarassment of the Chow era…..

  117. wasabi October 23, 2013 5:31 pm

    114- point taken 🙂

  118. d1shima October 23, 2013 6:05 pm

    Be a fan.

  119. NorthShoreFan October 23, 2013 6:18 pm

    Hopefully Kirkwood is ready to go. More hands out there is welcomed.

    Go Warriors!

  120. NorthShoreFan October 23, 2013 6:19 pm

    Smells like da boyz having one beeg bbq out Schofield way…..

  121. Derek October 23, 2013 6:25 pm

    It doesn’t matter who you recruit unless that one recruit is a Quarterback who can make plays for us. In other words, as Big Al have said on many times, we need to get the Holy Grail. I agree that talent level is much better now, but we don’t have the right QB. And that my friends makes all the difference in the world. It’s no difference if it’s in college or the NFL. You didn’t have to be a genius to know that the NY Giants was going to beat the Minnesota Vikings on Monday night football. Would you rather have Eli Manning or Josh Freeman?

  122. gobows October 23, 2013 6:57 pm

    #63 whitey

    there is no “light that went on” because no matter what people say, hawaii does not have a kicker that can kick it out of the endzone on kickoffs.

  123. NorthShoreFan October 23, 2013 6:58 pm

    Frustrating to see only parts of the game being played well. Need to bring all the parts together for the whole game. Recent article about Bubba not being consistent is true for the whole team at each position. Defense, Offense, running backs, wideouts etc. Each component needs consistency. When that happens we will have a win.

    Not sure what musical QB’s does to the rhythm of the team but not too many programs have dual QB system.
    Are we still not sure who can bring the Warriors to the promise land? Inconsistency, injuries, mistakes, discipline all need to be addressed. This situation is not for a lack of effort or desire. The kids play their butts off every game and I appreciate that big time.

    Go Warriors!

  124. Boya_jr October 23, 2013 7:07 pm

    Hi Slugger good seeing you too. Las Vegas weekend sure feels like a long time ago. Thanks for waiting for me by my section. My friends were impressed that you came down to look for me. They thought wow I’m connected within UH or something. Hahaha. During halftime I walked around the Sam Boyd Stadium just feeling good to see all the Hawaii fans. That’s my people!

  125. Boya_jr October 23, 2013 7:09 pm

    I miss Hawaii

  126. Slugger October 23, 2013 8:36 pm


    Get connected with some Hawaii people. There have to be a bunch in the Bay Area. Just in this little town I live in I have a group of friends who are from HI or do hula with me. On the other hand, you are in school there, so find the Hawaiian club.

    I’m sure we’ll have a good turnout when UH Women’s BB team comes to play in Nov. UH men’s BB coming in Dec.

    Night all! It’s gonna be 29 degrees tonight.

  127. WWF October 23, 2013 8:37 pm

    #122 gobows

    You need to watch Ceejay Santos on kickoff practices, before you make that kind of statement. That boy has a mean leg.

  128. Konoman1 October 23, 2013 8:50 pm

    And declining revenues was not the reason Mack was let go.

  129. eMpTy October 23, 2013 9:46 pm

    If UH football was a business, they would have taken the Colorado game for the money. Even if the net wouldn’t have been much. Any amount in the black would have helped the bottom line.

  130. Maddog50 October 24, 2013 5:50 am

    Would love to see a team win this week……O….D….ST……just a win is all I ask-Go Warriors

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