Top 4 seeds: Stanford, UW, Texas, Wisconsin; Hawaii to UW
No surprise. FSU had a few bad losses.
In the Wong hospitality room with the team.
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No surprise. FSU had a few bad losses.
In the Wong hospitality room with the team.
The thoughts are that they have Stanford and UW as 1-2, opposite ends of the bracket, figuring they might meet in the final.
longest 330 in history. took 15 minutes to play.
Top seed Stanford, No. 2 Texas, No. 3 Washington and No. 4 Wisconsin
Surprised Texas is seeded 2
Wow stanford in Ames region
In the Iowa State regional. At Stanford vs. CSU Bakerfield, Michigan State vs. LMU.
At Kansas 16 seed Kansas vs. Ark-Little Rock, Creighton vs. Oregon State.
Florida No. 8 seed, At Florida. Florida vs. Alabama State, Miami vs. UCF,
No. 9 Illinois. At Illinois vs. Murray State, Iowa State vs. Western Kentucky.
Stanford’s monster recruiting class from two years ago is paying big dividends this year. Won’t be surprised to see Penn State in the same position in two years.
At Minneapolis. At Texas No. 2 Texas vs. Northwestern State. Arizona State vs. Texas A&M
At No. 15 CSU vs. Denver, Colorado vs. Northern Colorado.
all Colorado subregional at CSU
At No. 7 North Carolina vs. Hampton, USC vs. Coastal Carolina.
At No. 10 Oregon vs. Santa Clara. Oklahoma vs. LSU.
10 easy drive in case it starts snowing.
Shoji thinks they’re join going to UW
I was hoping UH was gonna end up in the part of the bracket with Oregon and North Carolina
13. So was I. Good path to the regional.
Texas got a better draw than Stanford
Ugh
Seattle regional
At 3 Washington vs. New Hamphire; Hawaii vs. Duke.
Smart guy Shoji is
brutal regional … i had hopes that hawaii would get sent to at least a lower seeded team’s regional … i guess not.
hawaii vs. duke in the first round will be tough, but i hawaii can do it.
If UH can get by Washington, the regional is very winnable. Big if, however.
Cindy, any reaction from Dave?
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Seattle sub regionals seems to be reoccurring a lot over the last few years. If I’m not mistaken, third time in four years right?
Worried about UW’s serving. They will target Olevao and Greeley.
Duke is beatable IMO.
LBSU can win the UCLA subregional. Penn State with another joke of a subregional.
Very tough road for LBSU
sorry, had to post breaking news story.
At UCLA, The Beach faces San Diego in the first round.
Hawaii has to get past Duke first. then you can worry about UW and serving.
I am not even surprised anymore at the fact that we got sent to a Washington regional. Penn State’s sub regional is a cake walk, Wisconsin’s side of the bracket is a cake walk.
duke will be a tough 1st round opponent.
washington has a couple key injuries, but still strong.
hawaii has nothing to lose this year. i hope the team goes all out …
UH might as well make UW a sister school already. They keep getting sent to Seattle. At least Magill and Huff get to go home.
22. Just checked and UH was in the same subregional as UW in 2010 and 2012. Same regional in 2013. Neither in 2011.
Duke’s best win is at home versus FSU. Will be a strong opponent for UH.
Wisconsin got an easy regional too
whatever. hawai’i should be able to handle duke. then hopefully third times the charm and pull an amazing upset of washington and krista vansant is going down. take down the villain of jim mclaughlin.
you know what would be an excellent counter towards someones serving? attacking the serve once it crosses the net (just like an overpass). magill should be able to do the job. illegal you say? i say high risk high reward, even you if lose the rally its still worth it to intimidate the server/opponent.
on a serious note though, the libero needs to roam the entire court and in case of on the verge of overpass, have a front row player attack the ball instead of having it set. same thing if the opponent returns you a free ball, if the first receive is a set (whether bump set/two hand set), attack it anyways instead of setting it again so the block doesnt have time to get ready. olevao and greeley not able to handle ball? bring in long and taylor. nothing to lose after all right?
Why not? Get past Duke and then play one of the best teams in the nations early and see how they fare…why endure the length of play…just win 1st round, take down a GOLIATH of a team, Washington!!! That would be a Monumental UPSET!!! That would erase every loss this season!!! In this one game lost and out…I rather be a heavy underdog!!!
I am excited to see the impossible become possible!
Really nothing to lose!! Let’s Go BOWS!!!
Let’s bring the blocking party to the home of our best blocker. Bring the fire of the lava flow the cold weather of Seattle. Let’s Go ‘Bows!!!!
33. Krista Vansant is not a villain. She’s a nice girl. She’s just a strong player, that’s all. We don’t need to demonize the opponents, just respect them.
awesome that mendoza was wearing a queensies shirt …
The announcer of ESPNU said she predicts Washington to win the National Championship……That might it even better for us and much more meaningful!!
I see that PAC12 has a record ten teams playing in the NCAA tournament and two top four seeds. It must be the strongest conference in the nation.
Hawaii vs. Duke is a tough first round matchup. I hope Na Wahine bring their A game and don’t look ahead to UW, or it could be one and out.
Please.
No surprise (as per usuaLs). Predictable!
VolleyShots is so very “on it”. 😉
In 2007 a Cougar team came out of nowhere to proceed into the Elite *
Saw Duke play a few times, wasn’t overly impressed,
But we need Olevao to play like she did this weekend, absolutely must play well since Higgins sets her so much.
RPI for Nov. 30 has UH at #39, Duke at #21. Lowest in RPI in as an at-large appears to be Michigan ST #48. Appears the highest RPI team to get shafted was #42 SMU. CSUN at #45 also not in.
On a side note, Beeman and the Wahine are hanging tough with #11 UNC tied at 27
44. I could say the same thing about UH. Both teams lack consistency. Should be a very competitive match.
Kinda shocked Purdue & Pacific didn’t make it. Thought they had a pretty good season.
Thought USC & Michigan State was the two that wasn’t gonna make it. Guess I got it wrong.
Hopefully they get past duke. They just need to get their train moving sooner like the game against UCD. They came out wanting to win & they did.
45. Makes me think that a season-ending loss could have doomed UH’s chances to go to the tournament, contrary to the prevailing opinion of the Oc sports folks. Fortunately, we don’t have to worry about that scenario.
I suppose if you want to be the best, you gotta play the best. What makes it very difficult is Udub is at home — again, where they are really, really hard to beat. Just ask Stanford.
49. Agree, although UH could have prevented the subregional meeting by beating LBSU once, beating at least one Pac12 team, and not losing to CSUN on the road. Woulda coulda shoulda. No sense looking backwards, just need to focus going forward.
We get lei up here too, Cindy Luis.
You like one?
You going come up on the “beat”, then drop by Sequim to see the ohana??
Seattle and VB throughout the entire tourney is being pushed in the media; what an up and coming VB town.
You going represent the SA as its long time “in the know” person???
43. said no surprise because the NCAA gets in this rut and keeps sending certain teams to certain places. UH went to USC twice and USC came out here twice.
UH to UW for the third time in five years.
will be back on in a while. have to finish a story.
Women’s Volleyball, First Round Bracket,http://www.ncaa.com/interactive-bracket/volleyball-women/d1
Wow, looks like Hawaii might have barely got in. Every win Hawaii notched was huge… think about winning over UCI and UCSB in 5. Hawaii literally saved their season each time.
Feel for CSUN though.
Regarding Hawaii’s loss to CSUN, remember that was the match Hawaii was delayed twice to get out of Hawaii on its red-eye, then had to play CSUN – a top 30 team at the time – on homecoming – then play LBSU, with a really young and inexperienced team. Collision of the worst case scenarios, IMO.
In fact, Hawaii took LBSU to five both times. Hawaii isn’t that much “worse” than LBSU. They could easily have won the conference at 15-1. LBSU just has the experience, chemistry and killer-instinct you’d expect a team with their talent would have.
Glad the NCAA “regionalized ” by sending Duke and New Hampshire across the continent….
51. I will be up there. first time to Seattle for volleyball since Ann was the beat writer and traveled the past four years with the team.
Won’t be going to Sequim. Mom will be in San Diego for the week.
57. they went regional for a lot of pods. just look at CSU’s site. but with so many good teams in the west, they had to travel somebody.
54. thank you.
Here’s the RPI from Sunday. Hawaii dropped from 30 to 39.
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/volleyball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-volleyball-rpi
You Welcome, Cindy
So is Hawaii’s match going to be televised on OC16, or is it going to be a different channel?
washington will likely stream the match online.
I wasn’t really going to buy a lei anyway. Shoji doesn’t get one from me either! ‘-)
Hotel Decca, Silver Cloud-U district, Watertown / University Inn will suffice??
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Get to know Jack Hamann in sharing mana’o (for a real fancifully structured volley blog too)
Fran’s Chocolates in the University Village Shopping Mall is her flagship store. Barack and Michelle enjoy ordering the seasalt topped caramels.
UW? we’ve become their fodder in the last couple of regionals… took it in the chin
even with Hartong. Hope this doesn’t end with Duke and we steady out like we did last night against Davis….. “Go Bows!”
cindy — the sub-headline in the breaking news has the incorrect RPI for hawaii. it lists it at 30, not 39 …
Here are highlights of the Blue Devils match against the Florida State Semnoles whom they upset in four games.
http://www.goduke.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?&db_oem_id=4200&id=3534293
They sure are a scrappy team and #2 Obeimi is one to watch out for.
38. i didnt say krista vansant is a villain. read again. i said ‘take down the villain of jim mclaughlin.’ thats more referring to the coach as the villain but of course its how he coaches and his actions that makes a ‘villain of’ to take down and defeat.
This Hawai`i team can beat Duke if they play like they did last night but against Washington I don’t think that they have the type of talent needed to beat UW at home.
longs a must – check back on ur own post history, buddy, and then let’s talk! lol
i recall watching on a stream on at least one of the prior times hawaii went to uw for the tournament. what about that is incorrect?
plus, more and more the ncaa has been requiring that of subregional and regional hosts. i’ve seen that uw has a great stream on the rare occasion during the regular season when it’s been free, without registration/subscription on the pac-12 network site.
Duke may be more than what we hoped for in the first round. They beat a Florida State team that beat Nebraska and Florida early in the season. Yikes!
wait isnt hawai’i the #6 blocking team in the nation? and recall last byu pulled the upset as the #6 blocking team in the nation. perhaps its time na wahine use that gift and bring duke…and washington to their knees.
perhaps shoji this week can work on libero speed and roaming the entire court + communication. digging/passing bullets and some offspeed balls. setting better than yesterday. working on serves to ping the back line (just like riverside) and finally sundering off the block (higgins can dump more since that seems to cause panic)
that aloha ball video showed ginger long using her high velocity gun (arm swing) to smash through the block. that can definitely be of use to duke and washington.
36. going back to the loss at CSUN. UH was flying out Wednesday afternoon. they got delayed and it ended up being a red-eye. they got into LA Thursday morning, didn’t play until Friday.
I think the biggest issue from what the players said was the noise factor and the obnoxious fans.
63. TV is going. not sure what channel they’ll have it on
Radio will be.
66. I wouldn’t say fodder. UH had a swing to win it in 2012. didn’t.
2010 was a big uglier, that following the WAC loss to Utah State after getting through the first round.
67. we use templates and that subhead was from last week. I never changed it. Thanks for noticing.
Here is Duke Blue Devil’s, Women’s Volleyball, Roster.
http://www.goduke.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=4200&SPID=1844&SPSID=22705
~~ My Take On NCAA Selection Sunday ~~
1. As I mentioned and Cindy confirmed, the official NCAA site said there are 33 automatic bids and 31 at-large bids. Problem stemmed from the NCAA.org people listing Independent (which is only one school) as a conference, and thus creating the non-existing 33rd conference. Long and short of it: 32 automatic and 32 at-large bids were awarded. We were both right.
2 Pac-12 had all its “bubble” teams receive a RSVP to the Big Dance, and thus 10 out of 12 squads are in.
3. Over the course of the last couple of weeks, I mentioned several times on Cindy’s blog that the NCAA Selection Committee remembers. Last year, the SEC had 8 bids, and not one made it out of the subregionals. Not one. This year, the Selection Committee reduced the SEC’s bids to just 5.
Last year, the Big West had 3 bids, and not one made it out of the subregionals. This year, the BWC has two. Even if C-SUN had won its last match of the season, the NCAA remembers.
And last year, the WCC had only 2 bids, and both made it to the Regionals. I said the NCAA Selection Committee would reward them for last year’s performance, and the Selection Committee did so with an amazing 4 bids: BYU (AQ), San Diego and Santa Clara (tied for 3rd in the league), and LMU (5th in the standings). But what happened to Pacific, which shocked everyone by turning up as the runner-up in the WCC? The door slammed shut in Pacific’s face — largely
due to its weak RPI. Pacific has a lot to bitch about this week.
4. Most fascinating subregional (IMHO) turns out to be the Colorado State subregional. I said the Rams would be Seed 16, and turns out CSU is Seed 15. Thought UH, Northern Colorado, and a Pac-12er would end up here, but I was only 1/2 right. CSU, Northern Colorado (Big Sky champ), Denver (Summit League winner), and Colorado make this subregional an interstate affair. Sounds almost incestuous. Lol.
It’s SHOWTIME! We have 2 reps. If there’s going to be a ONE AND DONE squad it’s not coming out of the Big West. For now is when the 2 old guards show why they’ve been around as Head Coach since time memorial, Auld Lang Syne.
Go Bows!
OrbitalRipZ — i would tend to disagree that the committee based a portion of this year’s selections based on results last year. isn’t it just as possible, if not moreso, that the teams that were selected met the criteria given to the comittee. plus there’s usually some turnover in the makeup of the comittee from year to year.
Hope Shoji travels on Monday and arrives on Tuesday and the girls get 3 days rest after the long flight. Regardless of what anyone says the results of the past 2 year’s road-trips have been uninspiring. School is in finals already so it is not like the players are missing class. Shoji keeps complaining about the slow road starts, I hope he does something about it.
82. Thanks OrbitalRipZ, that is a good quick comprehensive breakdown on what went down yesterday. It makes sense that a conference has to earn its selection number and the easiest way to do so is gauging the talent from the previous years play. I would expect there to only be exceptions to this based on intra-divisional play, and why we see the Pac 12 and Big 10 with the large representation. They have earned that right until the final 64 results begin to show that the bottom selections from those conferences aren’t getting it done in the playoffs.
After the UC Davis match this is what Dave said. Quote: We’d love to go East, but they’ll probably send us West. We can beat anybody as far as I’m concerned.
He was pretty fired up and liked the way they played on Saturday but “we can beat anybody ” is a pretty strong statement.
Well the wahine did play Oregon and UCLA tough, Oregon and UCLA both played UW at UW tough, ucla took them to 5.
LC, gotta call you out the the previous thread… That trojan bracket prediction was pretty spot on, just missing 1. Maybe he could predict rain after all. 😉
Adolpho , Manu- Olevao , Magill and Taylor made it to the all big west team. Greeley is on the freshmen team. Second year in a row our top freshman losing the FOY
big west all-conference awards just released …
hawaii has 5 players honored: adolpho, magill, olevao, and taylor on the first team, and greeley on the all-frosh team.
it was an lbsu sweep of the major awards: hudson (POY), gimmilaro (COY), and murray (FOY).
http://www.bigwest.org//story.asp?story_id=18122
thanks. it’s up on new thread. was late after practice and interview with Taylor.
orbitalripz and pot-of-gold — same poster? lol
alright, fine … if, as both of you say, the committee is, in large part, basing this year’s selections on last year’s results in the NCAA tournament, then…
how do you explain the atlantic sun conference getting 2 bids this year — the automatic (jacksonville) and an at-large bid (lipscomb)? what about about jacksonville’s ‘one-and-done’ result last year earned its conference 2 bids this year?
and why then was the big-10’s allotment of teams reduced from 8 bids last year, to just 6 bids this year? recall that the big-10 had 7 teams in the sweet-16 last year, they made up half of last year’s elite-8, and it was an all-big-10 championship final.
isn’t it more likely that the teams met the criteria for selection given to the committee by the NCAA?
(regardless of whether we agree with that criteria, and the over-reliance on RPI … in any case, “prior year’s results” is not one of those criteria.)
84. not enough time to book Monday. they’re trying to get out Tuesday afternoon.
92. Surprised about Lipscomb as well. their RPI went up to 31.
and Hawaii down to 39?
Only signature win by the Bisons that I could see was 3-1 vs. No. 22 Kansas first week of the season. Guess the 3-2 win over Northern Kentucky in the A-Sun semifinal impressed folks.
You have to be careful about translating two UH wins into an RPI ranking. The ranking will also depend on how other teams ranked above and below them perform, and against which teams’ W-L records. UH played at 2-25 (now 2-26) Riverside team that was going to have a depressing effect on UH’s RPI. If other teams around UH’s RPI ranking from last week won and played competition with superior W-L records, then UH’s RPI position will likely drop. Also note that the difference in RPI ranks is not linear–a team ranked 30th could a much higher RPI value than those ranked 31 and 32, while 31 and 32 could be close together in RPI value or far apart. I haven’t analyzed the teams ranked around UH last week, but I do know for a fact that last year, UH dropped in the RPI after winning against Riverside at the end of the year (again, UCR had a very poor W-L record last year).
I also looked into Lipscomb’s W-L and opponents’ winning percentage: 21-8 (.724) and 518-384 (.574). UH’s are 21-6 (.778) and 424-364 (.538). We all know opponents’ winning percentage is 50% of the RPI value, so you can see how Lipscomb has a higher RPI ranking (the opponents’ opponents’ W-L records are almost the same, but UH a tad higher). This is all math–doesn’t mean Lipscomb played better competition, it just means Lipscomb played competition with collectively better record than UH’s competition. And Lipscomb being 31 vs. UH at 39 doesn’t mean Lipscomb is a lot better than UH–compared to the top 10 RPIs, you see a greater difference between #1 and #10 than you do between #31 and #39.
If you followed all of this, then you should come to the same conclusion as I do: RPI is a flawed calculation for determining how talented/strong a team is.
Maybe it’s time to eat my shoes…. but is anyone afraid of the Blue Devils like me??
Cubicle1126, no not the same poster. I appreciate that there are varying circumstances to the final selection and well before the selection orbitalripz made a call about the WCC conference getting more recognition. As for the Big10, they sift out some of their selection in intra-divisional play in itself. There was a significant difference in the level of play between the top 4 and the rest, so they got a bonus 2 selections due to last seasons success. If you know that there is that dropoff and the RPI’s don’t enhance that line, then the Big 10 had to drop selection numbers.
It is obvious that we aren’t going to agree, no problems, go wahine. That we can agree upon.
96. High N Wide, they are ranked higher, have had better success against top rated teams, so yes Hawaii should be concerned. That said, the 6PM PST time slot is 9PM Duke time, meaning that by games end, their body clocks will be on shutdown mode, advantage Hawaii (think about that advantage should Hawaii win Friday night for the next night against WSU (if WSU wins), a 10PM PST start time.) . Both team seem to start out slow, so this match may be won in the first set, the team better prepared to take that initial set won’t have to come from behind.
68. uh became fodder for uw? surely you jest. what a joke!