Big West POW went to CSUN player

To those who said earlier …. guess someone forgot to nominate a UH player again …. before the award was even announced … Hartong was nominated.

Natalie Allen (Murrieta, Calif./Murrieta Valley HS), who helped Cal State Northridge to its first 6-0 start since 1997, captured Big West Women’s Volleyball Player of the Week honors as she was named the Most Valuable Player of the Fiesta Bowl Tournament.

The Matadors went 3-0 at the Fiesta Bowl Tournament with two five-set wins over Idaho and San Diego State, and a four-set triumph against host Northern Arizona, which suffered its first loss of the season.

Allen played a large role as she posted double-doubles in all three wins.  She compiled 23 kills and 18 digs against Idaho while hitting .370 (23-6-46).  The junior also had six blocks.

In the Matadors’ second consecutive five-set win, Allen notched 13 kills and 17 digs to go along with three blocks against the Aztecs.  In the tournament championship match, the outside hitter hit .375 with 15 kills, 12 digs and four blocks as CSUN overcame a first set deficit to upend the Lumberjacks.

Allen, who earned MVP honors for the second time in as many tournaments, has reeled off five consecutive double-doubles.

For the week, she averaged 3.64 kills, 3.36 digs and 0.93 blocks while swinging at a .342 (51-13-111) clip.

Others nominated: Megan McConnell (Cal Poly); Alyse Hensley (Cal State Fullerton); Devon Damelio (UC Davis); Aly Squires (UC Irvine); Leah Sully (UC Santa Barbara); Emily Hartong (Hawaii)


  1. LC September 9, 2013 12:10 pm

    Like I said before the BW tweeted the nominates this morning and no Wahine was mention so what is one suppose to think ?

  2. jcvolcano September 9, 2013 12:11 pm

    Aloha Cindy,
    In the event Hawaii doesn’t host postseason, where will they compete in the first two rounds?

  3. Cindy Luis September 9, 2013 12:20 pm

    1. that twitter isn’t always correct?
    2. no way to even start to answer that. you have over 10 weeks to see how things play out and how the RPI/poll goes during that time.

  4. LC September 9, 2013 12:24 pm

    IT WAS THE BIG WEST SID WHO TWEETED IT… DUH ! That’s a reliable source.

  5. Warriorfan September 9, 2013 12:29 pm

    Interesting digging Na Wahine blog thought Hartong wasn’t nominated just like LC….

  6. Warriorfan September 9, 2013 12:30 pm

    Anyway congrats to Allen, she had a big week but what is up with Dietre’s team. I thought they would be better than they have been.

  7. Cindy Luis September 9, 2013 12:40 pm

    4. again … doesn’t mean it’s always true.
    6. DEITRE did too. But they’ve been on the road for 6 straight matches, lost 3-2 at LSU two weeks ago, 3-2 to CSUN. only bad loss I see is 3-0 vs. host NAU. Five setters can go either way IMHO.

  8. LC September 9, 2013 12:40 pm

    Interesting so did a lot of others in other places

  9. Warriorfan September 9, 2013 12:48 pm

    7. I just noticed their big time recruit Alexis Cage (one time UW commit) hasn’t played at all this season. I thought she was playing she might have made a difference.

  10. LC September 9, 2013 12:50 pm

    Warriorfan my blog can be found at

  11. roofer68 September 9, 2013 3:51 pm

    Thought I’d share the NCAA season stats so far:

    team hitting pct – UH .317 8th
    individual hitting pct – Jade .580 2nd
    kills per set – Emily 5.00 8th
    points per set – Emily 5.68 6th

  12. Cubicle1126 September 9, 2013 4:02 pm

    thanks roofer —

    the .317 hitting % is a nice surprise. especially so far against the tougher part of hawaii’s schedule.

  13. Ron September 9, 2013 5:15 pm

    I think that if we win out we will host. Any loses will give the selection committee the excuse they need to pass over us. That will be difficult to win out but we can do it. We have the best over-all player in the Country. We have a setter and a libero that we would not trade anyone for. I think Ally is as good or better than the girl from USC. Our middles keep improving. Mendoza is solid, our passing specialists have made good runs and by the end of the year Nikki will be a force. The L2 position will continue to be fought over all season long. With Tai you get someone who can really elevate and hit with a perfect set. With Kastl you get a very solid all around player who needs to relax and play more instinctively. Both will have their moments this year. We are really blessed with role players such as Goodman, Higgans, Long and KT who can come in and contribute.

  14. Grammy September 9, 2013 6:17 pm

    Coach Dave and the coaching staff have the players and the backup to overcome and attack or defend against most of the remaining teams on this year’s schedule. The question and challEng will be to maintain their focus and win. The NCAA will do their own thing and for the Wahine to go deep in their bracket, they will have to stay focused on doing their OWN thing and play their OWN game. If they lose or get out played so be it but don’t give up on themselves or their team. Go Wahine!

  15. mauna September 9, 2013 6:36 pm

    Hawaii news now, KGMB sports people not doing their homework, saying Croson’s coming making the tournament interesting. LOL.

  16. RedZone September 9, 2013 7:11 pm

    Heard Dave on the radio this morning. Nikki will move to left side next year replacing Hartong. The setter next year will be Higgins. He also thinks the coaches voting in the polls are leaning toward their conferences.

  17. jeff September 9, 2013 7:26 pm

    Is jane crosan coming to play i heard not

  18. roofer68 September 9, 2013 9:27 pm

    18. Is that Nikki move a hint, that someone is staying for at least another year to see that she has the coaching to settle in.
    19. mauna saying that KGMB is not doing their homework, old news really.

  19. Cindy Luis September 9, 2013 9:31 pm

    20, Jeff there is a whole thread devoted to that that I posted Friday night. you can go back a couple of threads. No, she is not coming. Believe I had the first official word from UA coach on that.

  20. Cindy Luis September 9, 2013 9:44 pm

    18. doubt very seriously if Shoji is retiring after this year. so guess you can take it as a hint.

  21. OrbitalRipZ September 9, 2013 11:43 pm

    I am of the minority opinion that, while it would be cool to bow out at the round number of 40, Shoji might pass the torch at the end of this season. (I know, I know, he’s having too much fun to even think the ‘R’ word!)

    After 39 years at the helm, Shoji can now leave Division I Women’s Volleyball as its winningest coach. [Aside: Records are meant to be broken, and if Russ Rose continues to coach — and Shoji has never defeated Rose — Rose will surpasses Shoji. And should John Dunning or Mary Wise or ___ keep coaching, they will surpass Rose after he speaks the R word. So it goes.]

    More than anything, Shoji wants to go out with one final Final Four appearance, and — looking at the three-year period of 2013, 2014, and 2015 — this is the year which gives the Rainbow Wahine its best chance to knock on heaven’s door.

    For in 2013, the Wahine has a legit NPOY candidate. (Although as we go deeper into the season, coaches will come armed with computer printouts longer than a Longs receipt printout on Hartong’s every tendency, such as her tendency to choose cross court over line.)

    It has 7 seniors.

    And Hawai’i has NCAA history in the making: two years in a row now in which a back-in-the-day team returned to glory — first UCLA returned to its NCAA Championship winning ways in 2011 after a 20-year wait, followed by Texas which in 2012 turned time back after waiting since 1988. And the UH has been in the neighborhood since 1987. (Truth be told, the offense-driven rally-scoring era of today favors systems of younger coaches like those at UCLA and Texas, and not a coach like Shoji who if given a choice will almost always recruit the solid serve receiver over a great server and who will almost always favor defense over the offense, as in “just serve the ball in and give our middles the chance to block.”)

    This looks to me to be the year Shoji could trade in the court for the golf course. He will go out at #1, and it would be a perfect made-for-TV ending if the Rainbow Wahine also go out at #1. (Wonder if after Karch Kiraly does his magic in the 2016 Rio Olympics, Shoji could make his availability known for the 2020 Tokyo Olympics?)

    I will be happy to be wrong in my baseless prediction. Just don’t hate on me for making it.
    Batchi on me for even thinking that Shoji would play the ‘R’ card to inspire his players. Lol.

    Go Bows!

  22. po'okela September 10, 2013 2:30 am

    I think nikki needs to move to the left this year, don’t want another willoughby flashback.

  23. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 7:05 am

    21. Shoji has said he’ll re-evaluate after the season is over. I know he’s working on next year’s schedule. But think any good coach would so as not to leave his successor with trying to fill a schedule late, especially since it’s hard to get teams out here. So in that respect he’s doing what he always has done in preparing the schedule. IMHO he’ll stay for at least 40.
    As for the Olympics 2020. so not see him taking that job. he has been approached in the past. turned it down because of his kids being young and needing to take a leave from UH (sort of like Haley and USC in a way)
    Depending on how Kiraly does in Brazil, he may be re-signed for the next quad. not to be agist but there is a 14-year difference in age between the 2. Karch will be almost 60, Shoji almost 74 when Tokyo happens (we love December babies) I could see him in an advisory role, much as Scates (74) and Hebert (think 68) are doing now. But HC? doubt it.
    would make sense as an advisor. move to Anaheim, be able to also watch his sons in the gym with the men’s national team. his wife might be able to retire by then.
    As for the ‘R’ card, it worked for John Wooden back in 75 … but after they won, he said he regretted it. but since he said it, he said he couldn’t and wouldn’t go back on his word.
    Wooden was 64 when he retired. Shoji is currently 66.

  24. Ron September 10, 2013 7:21 am

    66 is the new 56! Maybe Karch would be interested in the Hawaii job after the Olympics. He might have too much blue and gold in his veins but he knows more about winning than most.

  25. Maverick September 10, 2013 7:21 am

    I like having Taylor on the right to block. She puts up a very large block against the other teams’ best hitters. While she has a good arm, it’s still not as powerful as Olevao or Kastl. I think the current rotation needs more reps to improve, rather than being changed after six matches.

  26. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 7:30 am

    24. a lot of blue and gold out there. Think Sealy is a very viable candidate. whoever takes this job when it opens up will have to have an understanding of Hawaii, the state as well as Hawaii volleyball. Another B&G guy, Reed Sunahara from Hilo. he’s a couple years younger than Karaly. their playing careers overlapped at UCLA for 1 year (82)

  27. Ron September 10, 2013 8:37 am

    I agree with Maverick. Let Nikki develop her blocking skills on the right this year. She is very “even keeled” in that she does not get rattled when she gets blocked . I think Dave is even surprised how well she is doing. This is a case where the stats do not give a full picture of her value.

  28. LC September 10, 2013 8:46 am

    Reed Sunahara really ? That’s when everything goes down the drain.We need to get over this baloney that very hire has to have a Hawai`i connection, that is so lame it isn’t funny.

  29. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 8:54 am

    28 just threw his name out. national team assistant with Karch, will be with him through the Olympics.
    As for the baloney … I can quote you a number of very respected coaches from around the country who have said that Hawaii is not easy to recruit to and who ever replaces Shoji will need to understand Hawaii, living here, etc. These are people looking at Hawaii from the outside and don’t have anything to gain from saying it.
    I still like Sealy.
    Wong could be another guy.
    I don’t see any female out there qualified to step in. Now if you want baloney, that’s something to chew on.
    It should go to the best qualified person out there who wants the job, regardless of gender or some agenda.

  30. Grammy September 10, 2013 9:00 am

    As to Nikki I like her on the Right, too as a blocker and attacker. If Coach Dave is saying replace Emily, that would make L1 right? But I think she gives more diversity on the right side for now. As for the HC position post-Shoji I am fully expecting a long, line of hopefuls with varied HI ties and a great load of vb knowledge. Here in the 808 we’ve enjoyed a long tradition of good University level coaches and I expect no less from the most beloved, most watched and discussed institute/premiere program. Go Wahine!

  31. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 9:03 am

    30. it does mean L1. doesn’t mean that Nikki would become L1. they’ll look at how Manu-Olevao develops over there, How Passi will be (probably better on the right)
    but if they stick with the system, the LSs hit twice on the left, once on the right. RS twice right, once let.
    what they’re going to do is to continue to get athletic middles who can hit the slides that basically gives you another right-side attacker.

  32. Grammy September 10, 2013 9:07 am

    I like that no gender agenda. I also like a team of former Wahine maybe Tita and Deitre who could recruit with the total picture for local and mainland recruits. Also Robin with her experiences. Go Wahine!

  33. LC September 10, 2013 9:09 am

    John Cook has a new vanity lic tag that includes the Hawai`i 808 area code.

    Not saying that this means anything but lets just pretend that Cook who spends time here in the off season is thinking..ya know I wouldn’t mind retiring in Hawai`i maybe I should consider that job when Dave retires.

    Well I’m sorry John but you don’t have that Hawai`i connection.

  34. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 9:11 am

    don’t see Cook here. Not the right personality IMHO
    lot of coaches have thought about Hawaii being the dream job to set up retirement
    that also included Al Scates, who turned down the job, mostly because his wife didn’t think she could live her, being so isolated, etc.

  35. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 9:16 am

    32. I wrote gender OR some agenda. not necessarily one and the same.
    Ah Mow-Santos with two very young children not wanting to be a HC at the moment. Maybe down the line. Her plate is very full, which includes taking care of her dad.
    Collins-Parker will be looked at, if she chooses to apply. It will help if she continues her success at SDSU.
    Ahuna as an assistant would be a good get, if she wanted it. She’s been away from collegiate coaching for a while but still coaching club.

  36. LC September 10, 2013 9:19 am

    34.I said lets pretend Cindy. My point is would we pass on a top national coach who wanted the job because he doesn’t have this silly Hawai`i connection BS going for him ?

  37. mauna September 10, 2013 9:20 am

    I see UH hiring whomever Shoji endorses.

  38. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 9:52 am

    36. no, actually, LC, was just to add to my post that ‘some agenda’ includes just because there is a local tie.
    My point is it’s got to be the best person out there. However that person will need to have some understanding of what it takes to live in Hawaii because he/she is going to have to recruit to Hawaii, convince players and parents of it. I don’t think a ‘hey i’m new too will cut it for long.’

  39. Cindy Luis September 10, 2013 9:52 am

    as for the ‘let’s pretend’ just passing along that plenty of coaches have had the real thought, including Scates.

  40. Warriorfan September 10, 2013 10:27 am

    If Scott keeps recruiting well and UH makes a few more final four appearances before Dave retires I can see him getting the head coaching job.

    As for Nikki on the left next year, it all really depends on who is coming in next season. Kalei Greeley might come in and surprise and be really good so Nikki might not have to move to the left at all.

  41. Kazu September 10, 2013 10:30 am

    I would like to see Sealy back,and for a woman, Like Cindy mentioned Collins. Was thinking about the woman Asst. at Texas who went there from Penn State.

  42. setaone September 10, 2013 11:43 am

    41. You thinking about Salima Rockwell?

    I think the point that Cindy is trying to make is that knowledge of the local culture will be or should be a part in evaluating who the best candidate would be.

  43. Warriorfan September 10, 2013 11:53 am

    28. that’s uncalled for, Reed is a good coach, He built a program like Cincinnati from nothing to a top 20 program and they have fallen off a cliff since he left.

  44. Ron September 10, 2013 12:45 pm

    I was impressed with the USD coach but I don’t know her background. San Diego must be one of the eases places in the world to recruit to. Second best area in the US.

  45. po'okela September 10, 2013 2:00 pm

    I liked it when shoji briefly ran a 3-middle offense and due to the lack of productivity on the right, I think he needs to incorporate that more or at least experiment with that during big west play if he wants more of an experienced block and more termination come December. you can say what you want but nikki had a couple great matches but hasn’t been putting up the same numbers since which is why I feel she is most needed on the left.

  46. po'okela September 10, 2013 2:01 pm

    pls shoji just once, play with this lineup.

    OH hartong and taylor
    MB adolpho and vorster
    S uiato
    OPP tuaniga
    L longo

  47. kimo browner September 10, 2013 2:04 pm

    U of San Diego also beat Iowa State and Illinois last week, back-to-back, in the same tournament… both in the top 20. They play #1 USC this week @ home. The tournament format has both teams playing two in one day and 3 in two days. Yikes! That should answer questions whether they are bull-fighters. Also, anyone noticed the dominance of the Big Ten (12) in the polls? Will that change as the conference starts? Or will their conference RPI keep them floating above their losses?

  48. mei mei September 10, 2013 3:46 pm

    i like Nikki on the RS – She is great, i Hope coach leaves her there & when Kalei comes in next year, there will be her & hopefully the more developed and better Olevao on the OH 1 & 2 spots (or Passi).

    if and when coach retires… i agree with the above comments with Sealy, Wong, Karchy… 🙂

  49. heluhelu September 10, 2013 4:40 pm

    LC: September 10th, 2013 at 9:09 am “John Cook has a new vanity lic tag that includes the Hawai`i 808 area code.”

    Lol. Cook’s plate reads “66-D808”. 66 = issuing county, “D808” is randomly, sequentially or systematically assigned by the numbering system of the issuing county.

    If you follow his timeline, Cook visited The Prairie Club (~ Valentine, NE, Cherry County) over the July 4 weekend. Cook was so impressed that he tweeted his intention to obtain Cherry County plates, which he acquired a week later. Cook got the plates for the 66. 66 = Cherry County, home of the Prairie Club which, according to one of his tweets, is “One of the top 5 places on earth!” In other words, D808 has no bearing, relation or subtext whatsoever to/re Hawaii.

  50. Purple&Green September 10, 2013 6:28 pm

    Reed, his call on Associate, Robyn, Lindsey B. volunteer

    Laura Bush, ………..Tita, ………Robyn, ………………Tanya-Fu’u-A. volunteer
    (afarfetchedwish), (from ’87), (Olympians’ respect), (knows “HI” VB like little other)

    LC/dedicatedfan/Steve/Laura/etc/etc. no longer coaches; nuff said. 😉

  51. Purple&Green September 10, 2013 6:47 pm

    That would take cojones.
    Would love it myself to see a different lineup out on the court (NOT necessarily your young version), but
    Coaches can be a tad superstitious; he’s going with his set lineup for the rest of the year.

    Keeping the bottom-up going is the REAL challenge.

  52. jmy September 10, 2013 8:14 pm

    Xavier (4-4) just swept Miami (previously 5-0) who beat Beach this past weekend…so much for RPI…

  53. OrbitalRipZ September 10, 2013 8:27 pm

    Another name … Rubio, whom Shoji has great respect as a HC. Were he 15 years younger. But don’t think he would trade in his Wildcats job for anything.

  54. chink September 10, 2013 8:41 pm

    52. LMFAO

  55. chink September 10, 2013 8:43 pm

    51. Wrong Miami. Miami (FL) beat LBSU. Xavier won against Miami (OH)

  56. jmy September 10, 2013 8:51 pm

    54, That’s what I meant…

  57. jmy September 10, 2013 8:53 pm

    54, Sorry, misunderstood your comment & gametracker didn’t specify Miami (OH)…

  58. Lina September 10, 2013 9:05 pm

    Cindy, do you know when the first RPI rankings will be out?

  59. Cubicle1126 September 10, 2013 9:35 pm

    lina — the first rpi has traditionally been released some time in october, maybe the 2nd or 3rd week.

  60. Ron September 11, 2013 9:31 am

    Nice job on the special Cindy, Thanks.

  61. mauna September 11, 2013 11:24 am

    The Hawaii ranking of Sept 9, according to the major sources that we look at:

    AVCA 10
    Kern 8
    Pablo 6
    VB Mag 8

  62. Ed September 11, 2013 11:56 am

    This is not to do with Sunahara and his HC abilities but more his background story. He was raised in a small town Papaikou where I was brought it at. He was tall, so he learned how to dribble well in basketbal with all the smaller players who were good ball handlers. His dad was one of the bigger Japanese men around, if not the biggest. Humble family. He also excelled in baseball in high school. He actually did better in basketball and baseball in high school. He would often dunk the ball and throw close to 90 mph fastball. He was offered a basketball scholarship from UH and baseball team showed interest. But he knew he had the most potential in volleyball. A great small kine town, big time sucess story.

  63. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 12:24 pm

    59. thanks Ron. haven’t seen the final product. enjoyed catching up with all the coaches the past few week.

  64. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 12:29 pm

    58. thanks for getting to that first. Yes, sometime next month I believe.

  65. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 12:32 pm

    41. Texas assistant Salima Davidson Rockwell. was a great setter at PSU. believe the first setter that we voted the MVP for the HAL Classic.

  66. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 12:33 pm

    45. he ran a 3-mddle offense and Tuaniga was LS. purely for blocking.

  67. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 12:40 pm

    44. Ron just go to to read her bio

  68. Cindy Luis September 11, 2013 1:27 pm

    55. Don’t see Rubio as the next person here. Who knows if he would apply though.
    Shoji will be a very very tough act to follow.

  69. Ron September 11, 2013 1:33 pm

    Thanks again Cindy, Jennifer is a very impressive woman. Also a San Diego native!

  70. Jeff September 11, 2013 2:37 pm

    Call the coach with Dave Shoji will be on Monday Sept 16 at 6pm

  71. LC September 11, 2013 4:02 pm

    UH needs to edit Croson out of that intro video, they certainty have enough footage of highlights from this season to do so.

  72. mauna September 11, 2013 4:06 pm

    I see starting tomorrow they’ll have a new intro video. Otherwise I’m getting on John Barry’s case.

  73. LC September 12, 2013 5:29 am

    Looks right we got the reason right.Some of us suspected that it was part of the deal between the Dave’s.I’ll give her the release but she’s not playing here is how I imagined it went down when I heard she got her release

    “Croson, a transfer from Hawaii, has agreed not to play in the tournament as part of the deal that let her leave Hawaii for the UA.”

  74. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 6:27 am

    71. I stand by what Rubio told me, that it was a coach’s decision in the best interests of his player.

  75. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 6:30 am

    72. it’s not really John’s responsibility. They have video/production people for that..
    They did need some new game footage to be able to change the video. they now have 6 matches to get some tape and rework the intro.

  76. LC September 12, 2013 6:32 am

    if you read the article that is what he said Cindy ““It’s a situation where I felt it was in [her] best interest ” but the best interest was part of a deal between both coaches and Croson.

  77. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 6:35 am

    thanks LC. didn’t read the article. just the part you posted. Rubio and I never discussed the agreement by Croson… just that part of her release was that there were some consequences to be acknowledged

  78. Cubicle1126 September 12, 2013 7:47 am

    The part in that Arizona article about the supposed “deal” is not quoting or attributing that statement to anyone. It’s simply the reporter saying a “deal” occurred. There’s no source for that statement. Until we get one, there’s no reason to believe a deal occurred.

  79. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 7:55 am

    78. Cubi, that’s how I interpreted it as well, now that I had time to read it. It always seemed to me that Shoji wanted some sort of consequences to come out of the situation and when some were shown, he gave the release. People have asked me if I thought she would have been booed if she had played. Told them there might be some hecklers but for the most part they would appreciated her and what she gave to the program during her time. In some ways, Croson’s ‘punishment’ is that she knows she won’t be in the great atmosphere at the SSC. You know the crowed loved her sky ball serve.
    The question now is … Does the giant Croson cutout head make its appearance this week.

  80. LC September 12, 2013 8:29 am

    Whats wrong Luis removing post because you can’t handle the truth ?

  81. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 8:31 am

    80. LC, can we stop with the disrespect? which is why your comments have been deleted.
    I know you enjoy ‘yanking chains’ to quote you from a few weeks ago. but name-calling and derision haas no place here.
    Can we see the return of the kind and generous LC, who apparently was good on his/her word of donating the $1,000 for the win over Texas?

  82. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 8:33 am

    80. no am tired of the hating on others.

  83. LC September 12, 2013 9:04 am

    Unfortunately Pollyanna was a fictional child’s novel most of us live in the real world.

  84. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 9:09 am

    Perhaps but there is enough negativity in the real world already. No need to add to it unnecessarily and, sadly, within the real world security of anonymity.

  85. eMpTy September 12, 2013 10:33 am

    LC. If you took the time to smell the roses, you might see a better place. Try it sometime, please.

  86. Cubicle1126 September 12, 2013 10:59 am

    LC — you’ve been very critical about fans/posters on here automatically accepting what they see and read as true. why then, are you so quick to accept an unattributed statement in an online article as truth?

    seems like someone prefers “drama” over “truth” after all …

  87. rage777 September 12, 2013 11:02 am

    Here is another Arizona article with the same kind of comments on Croson.

    Rainbow Wahine head coach Dave Shoji, who recently became the winningest coach in Division I women’s volleyball history, granted Croson’s release from Hawaii and waived the standard one-year sit-out period on the condition that she didn’t travel to Honolulu.

    “We’ve known for a long time,” UA head coach Dave Rubio said. “We thought it was in the best interest of her not to travel, but the team will still do well. Losing someone of Jane’s quality is hard, but we’ll soldier on. It will be good for them to handle adversity that may come with that.”

    So Coach Rubio does acknowledge there was some kind of agreement, “We thought it was in the best interest of her not to travel”.

  88. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 11:16 am

    thanks for the link.
    Who knows who the ‘We’ refers to.
    could be Rubio and Croson, as the other story says. “Croson, a transfer from Hawaii, has agreed not to play in the tournament as part of the deal that let her leave Hawaii for the UA.”

  89. Warriorfan September 12, 2013 11:25 am

    If I was coach Shoji I wouldn’t have let croson play all season. Sorry some actions deserve consequences so She’s lucky she gets to play the rest of the matches for UA.

  90. cocobean September 12, 2013 11:25 am

    “Croson HAS agreed….”can be interpreted as Rubio asked/advised her not to make the trip and she agreed. Who knows, part of the deal might be she listens to what her coach asks her to do.

    Neither coach is on record that this was one of the conditions of her release. I have a feeling the reporter assumed,on his part, that this was part of the deal. Jane has been the most tight lipped of those involved. I doubt she would leak such confidential information if it were part of the “deal.”

  91. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 11:47 am

    80 anyway, glad the question of ‘handling the truth’ has come up.
    There is a fine line between freedom of speech and libel/defamation of character.
    These are things I know to be true
    1. That I know enough law to know that I likely kept the curve down in my pre-law classes to help those wanting to be lawyers do so.
    2. That the basic defense in a libel or defamation law suit is that Truth is always a defense.’
    That being said, some of the things posted here have bordered on libel and defamation. Which is why they’ve been deleted. Not because of some Pollyanna-esque view of the world but because there is not enough truth to the statements that would hold up in a court of law. And shouldn’t hold up in the court of public opinion.
    I have a responsibility to this blog, one I do not take on lightly.
    That includes making sure that everyone is protected, those who post and those who are posted about.
    We live in such a litigious society and, sadly, with the anonymity with which posters can hide behind, the first person that will be held accountable for libel and defamation will be me. and also the paper. We don’t require legit emails. The only thing we know is the IP address of someone, and that can easily be changed.
    My final points are:
    1. MY blog, MY rules. which is anti negativity, rumor, innuendo, profanity, defamation, personal attacks.
    2. I always will take the side that affords the most protection under the law. That’s the side that has a delete button.

  92. roofer68 September 12, 2013 12:09 pm

    Arizona is here for three days and stories of Croson will float around. When they leave the Croson book saga should be sealed and closed as past history. We will never know the real truth to why Croson decided to transfer and why she was left out on this trip. If you were the best friend of Shoji, Rubio and Croson, you may have three different stories on the transfer and why she was left out on this trip.

  93. tako September 12, 2013 12:55 pm

    One of the reasons the U of H Wahine program is sooo great is the spirit of “ALOHA” and “OHANA.” When practiced it “influences” our culture in a positively way. The
    Wahine program crosses all facets associated with it, including this blog. Thus, it makes sense that we practice what the program and the “STATE of Hawaii” embodies;” Aloha. I look forward everyday to reading the latest news regarding the program and the sharing of thoughts. When “the Law” is cited, it is because we practice being less than courteous. May I recommend, just take a “time out” and reflect on the bigger picture… respectfully submitted…. and at the end of the day, the decision for Croson to not travel was made by “RESPONSIBLE parties and in the best interest of Croson,” let go and move on.

  94. LC September 12, 2013 1:59 pm

    Yep I was right again.Thank You Arizona Star.Two confirmations in one day.

  95. mauna September 12, 2013 2:33 pm

    Arizona Daily Star? I believe half of what I see and hear, and zero of what I read.

  96. haleiwacrossfitter September 12, 2013 3:37 pm

    Who’s Jane Croson?

  97. mei mei September 12, 2013 4:34 pm

    thank you 91 (Cindy) well put and understood.

  98. Cindy Luis September 12, 2013 4:49 pm

    LC, quit it with demeanng people. If you want to do that, do it on your blog.
    Mauna, sorry but deleting you as well only because the statement is no longer in context.
    87. Croson was a valuable member of the team the past two seasons. no longer with the Wahine. end of story. The Wahine have moved on. so should others.

  99. haleiwacrossfitter September 12, 2013 5:15 pm

    Hey Cindy….I know who Jane Croson is, but meant that comment exactly how you finished your comment. Move on, people! This topic is waaaaaay over played already. Who cares, she is gone and we have a fantastic, and probably better, team without her. Let it go….

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