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Other threads getting way too long and too confusing as to who is responding to what.

I do apologize again for not responding to all the comments. I am not getting notices that there are new posts as I normally get. Check with one of our web guys. sounds like they made some changes to the website and did something about filters and notifications.

Friday morning QBs go for it.


  1. LC October 25, 2013 11:26 am

    Things are going pretty smoothly Cindy. So far we have blamed Tai,Mita,Shoji passing and the middles.Some want a complete lineup change and a member of the Kastl klan insist that she should start.

    I myself still say Miller brought about this downward spiral with her bachi “Wahine aim to keep focus on Big West opponents” article. 🙂

  2. Cubicle1126 October 25, 2013 11:32 am

    the silver lining (if folks are interested in seeing it past last night’s loss) … is that hawaii’s rpi only dropped one spot, from 9 to 10 … how the loss will factor in when the committee chooses seeding remains to be seen. (of course, i’m looking not at the official ncaa rpi, but one of the estimators that attempts to duplicate the rpi.)

  3. LC October 25, 2013 11:41 am

    That unofficial RPI compared to the NCAA RPI was right on as far as Hawai`i was concerned last week but way off in many other places. I wouldn’t rely on it being correct.

  4. OrbitaliRipZ October 25, 2013 11:46 am

    Once again: “We need to take this loss and learn from it.”

    Said after the 5-set loss to SAN DIEGO.

    Said after the 5-set loss to UCSB.

    Said after the 5-set loss to CS-Northridge.

    Specifically, what was learned after each loss? And if something was learned, who taught it? Who absorbed it? And if indeed something was learned, was it ever lapplied on the court? Or is it just “bookish” learning — good for sound bites but not real-life situations?

    Bows, it is time to GIVE BLOOD! Now is the time for Stella to get her groove back. Now is the time to talk about MO and PEAK. Give Blood!

  5. Maverick October 25, 2013 11:46 am

    2. The full impact of the loss will occur after this weekend’s matches are complete. I expect a further drop in UH’s rpi ranking on Monday barring a lot of top 20 losses.

  6. Cubicle1126 October 25, 2013 11:57 am

    lc – yup, that online version of the rpi is just an estimate (or an attempt to duplicate the ncaa’s official one). we’ll have to see how the rpi from the ncaa looks when it’s released on monday.

  7. Cubicle1126 October 25, 2013 12:05 pm

    maverick — yup, it will matter what the teams around hawaii in the rpi does as well.

    kansas has already lost this week, and in the rpi estimator (again with the disclaimers discussed above) they dropped from 10 to 14.

    minnesota has also already lost this week (although, it does not appear that they have moved in the rpi. they’re still at 12).

    michigan st lost another this week (their 3rd straight loss), dropping from 16 to 23 in the rpi.

    marquette was 16 in the rpi at the start of the week. they have to get buy creighton today, who already swept marquette earlier in the season.

    still a lot of moving parts to all of this …

  8. Cindy Luis October 25, 2013 12:09 pm

    1 you can hardly blame Ann for the loss.
    Plus, she did not write the headline.
    Glad to know you haven’t lost your sense of humor.
    What I do find interesting LC is the notice that you have posted is the only notice I’m getting in my inbox of new posts.

  9. LC October 25, 2013 12:15 pm

    7)It wasn’t the headline it was in the content when she remind us of the UCSB match in 1994.

  10. Cindy Luis October 25, 2013 12:25 pm

    8. which of course had everything to do with yesterday’s loss, nearly 20 years later.

  11. Warriorfan October 25, 2013 1:14 pm

    Olevao is now hitting . 190 on the season. I don’t think I’v ever seen a UH starting player hit that low. Yikes.

  12. Ron October 25, 2013 1:30 pm

    What’s done is done. The Wahine might not get a chance at home court but they will be playing in the NCAA tournament somewhere. We know from their record that they can beat anyone on a given night. Unfortunately, we also know they can be beat by less talented teams on occasion. The team unity seems to have lost its intensity and Mita needs to get her Mo-Jo back. I am still bullish on their chances for a deep run in the play-offs. Go Bows!

  13. JML October 25, 2013 1:44 pm

    If the Wahine ended up not in first place in the Big West, will they go to the NCAA?

  14. Volleyball fan October 25, 2013 2:00 pm

    Ron, not only Mita needs to get her mojo back but also Kalei Adolpho. She’s been in a slump lately and she’s not focused. I was maddest when she failed to put down an overpass, not even bothering to jump up. Where was she? Every play counts when the team loses a set by only two points.

  15. mauna October 25, 2013 2:05 pm

    An if it happens factor. If there’s a tie at the top, what number factors come into play for the tiebreaker?

  16. setaone October 25, 2013 2:34 pm

    Agree with Kalei…..she isn’t as effective as earlier this season. Hopefully she gets it back soon!

  17. Cubicle1126 October 25, 2013 2:55 pm

    looks like creighton lost (badly) to marquette earlier today …

  18. Kazu October 25, 2013 3:26 pm

    That’s okay,all the top dogs are dropping. I blame the whole team, since its a team game each player and coach should take responsibility for the loss. They never do their job.They all know what happened so its up to them to correct those problems. Tomorrows another day,and what matters now is that they make it to the post season tournament. Go Bows!!!!

  19. kimo browner October 25, 2013 4:32 pm

    I dunno if we can expect changes. we lost to ucsb and same ole, same ole…pure insanity, using the same players and sets with the expectation to produce different results. most fans expect coach dave to produce a silver bullet…i’m thinking, he has made the talent better than they could have been in early season and what we are witnessing in mid-season is the team’s true dna. what is plain–the wahine are not playing at the level they need to be at to advance in post season play.

  20. Grammy October 25, 2013 5:23 pm

    I think it is the serve receive and passing which (except for Ali) has been erratic at times and is one of the tactics opposing coaches have focused on against Em especially and DS subs, too. Then there is the stacking the block to not allow Em to beat them (which means for us someone else be it middle or RS has to contribute and also that there has to be a hitter going against a single blocker somewhere along tha net when Em is in the front row. Finding that hitter is Mita’s job. Team’s have even figured out when Mita utilizes Em out of the backrow, too, which makes it imperative that Tai and Nikki or Kastl have got to score when they get set (hit smart) not just power it cross court where the libro is waiting too many times. I’ve been waiting for a solid 4th option to raise up and Jade or Kalei or TK seem to be under utilized in the two recent losses, but surely the roster has more talent than we’ve seen so far. I am confident that an answer will be found by coaches before rematches. Go Wahine!

  21. Ashley October 25, 2013 5:55 pm

    a loss is a loss. this isn’t the WAC and I think I would prefer Hawaii losing some matches in conference play than to dance through a conference with only one team that will push and challenge them. I am obviously concerned with Hawaii as of late, they look like a different team. not the team i wanna see. I did not listen fully to last nights game, but when I did listen i could see Nikki, Emily, Kalei & Jade struggled. I know CSUN really camped out on Emily so Hawaii needs their other hitters on key and having a good night. Hawaii cannot afford to lose another match, they just cannot.

  22. Bumby October 25, 2013 9:45 pm

    Olevao needs to be more consistent or play someone else. If the coaches believe there is no one else than Hawaii will not make it deep into postseason play if they should get there. Hawaii blocking is weak and that is a major concern.

  23. steve October 25, 2013 11:17 pm

    Olevao is not the answer at outside hitter. She is not powerful enough or creative enough to augment what hartong does. Kastl might be better if she ever got some consistent playing time. I don’t know what Shoji is waiting for. There is far more upside with Kastl if she works out. For sure she has more power than Olevao.

    The Wahine miss Croson more than they care to admit as at least she could get the ball down on a consistent basis even if she was only 5’11.”

  24. grace October 25, 2013 11:38 pm

    I agree with everyone’s assessment with Kastl. Tai Manu-Olevao is a good player but does not have anything more than Kastl. Olevao is a year or two to be that player we are hoping for. Right now, we need senior leadership and an attitude of passion. Kastl has that and experience. She was the leading Kill leader for Arizona St. Sometimes I just don’t feel Olevao and certainly not as leader. This team and the fans want a national championship now. Coach you make all the decision, but the starting line-up needs an overhaul and very soon

  25. Warriorfan October 25, 2013 11:47 pm

    I agree that Tai isn’t cutting but Croson is Struggling mightily at UA as well.

    21. Is Steve/Dedicatedfan/Laura, really back?? damn it.

  26. Kazu October 26, 2013 4:20 am

    This may sound negative to alot of you,and as a fan i hate to even think about it ,but afew of us were just talking about a national championship,and we all agreed that Shoji will not get another championship again.To many good teams out there. I also will have to agree about Kastl/Olevao.Best thing we can do is enjoy what we have and wish the team well.

  27. LC October 26, 2013 6:23 am

    Not a good day yesterday for RPI help…

    UCLA,UTEP,Creighton,AZ,Santa Clara and South Dakota all lost.Wichita State was the only winner

  28. tako October 26, 2013 8:55 am

    In spite of current situation, still believe that Wahine have a realistic chance of winning a NCAA championship, if they still believe and work to improve. All are correct, there is lots of parity out there, many great teams; and many are also experiencing losing. Believe this team is one of the special ones (they have kokoro), so, have visions of seeing them in the final four. -May the rainbow continue to shine for our wahine = go bows

  29. Jane October 26, 2013 9:01 am

    24 I have to say I agree. UH has talent, however, it limits that talent to their conference. Beyond that, they don’t have the talent to compete with Penn St, UCLA (Kidder and Love), Stanford, and yes, even Texas. Yes, they may beat these teams at times but they can’t maintain that level of play through six games in the post season. Probably UH’s best chance was with Willoughby and Kahumoku and that didn’t pan out. Then with Danielson against Penn State and that didn’t pan out either. But it doesn’t hurt to dream.

  30. Dan-O October 26, 2013 12:58 pm

    With so many of the top teams losing, anyone can take this year’s crown. No undefeated teams….no dominant team…Wahine just need to get hot at the right time. Better to slump now then in the tournament.

  31. Volleyball fan October 26, 2013 4:04 pm

    Dan-O: Aren’t Missouri and Colorado State still undefeated teams?

  32. Kazu October 26, 2013 5:04 pm

    Wahine down 2-0.

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