10-24 CSUN 3, Wahine 2
Just a reminder that because of the World Series broadcast today and Saturday, Wahine volleyball mathes at CSUN today and UC Davis Saturday will be on 1500 instead of 1420.
Meaning no internet on espn1420am.com
but there is streaming video at BigWest.TV
audio link is through GoMatadors.com as are live stats
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CSUN takes a 15-13 lead at the TTO. Wahine had led early. Seven ties so far.
Matadors up 19-17. TO UH.
Wahine had trailed 21-18. have tied at 21. TO CSUN
Manu-Olevao with the slam back on an overpass. UH up 23-21. TO CSUN.
UH a couple of swings at ending it. CSUN hanging tough, Matadors up 27=26. TO UH
Wahine hold off a couple of set points. Adolpho with the kill
UH wins it 32-30
My god. Not running on all 6 cylinders and Wahine gotta make some changes. Nikki making bad hits….too many home runs. Not making the blocks on a lot of the angle shots.
Whew….close. C’mon Wahines!
What a first set. Their neck,and neck. Would be nice to see it on tv.
That first set was a nailbiter and the Rainbow Wahine cling on by the skin of their teeth. Question is can they play better in the next few sets?
18 ties, 8 lead changes.
CSUN up 6-3 in Set 2. TO UH.
plesae take the bad attitude girls out. Ie Nikki, and Manu. Emily looks awful. Passing, hitting, serving. Shoji is not coaching.
shoji sitting there like a bump on a log.
Set 2 doesn’t sound good. C’mon!
Seems like Scott is doing all the coaching.
I’d give CSUN some credit for making UH look bad. The Matadome is a tough place to play.
Their not doing it.Zip zero!!!
I don’t give other teams credit for anything.
Wahine down 17-11. TO UH.
No fire no focus no energy.
Totally different team now. Don’t look the same compared to the beginning of the season.
How can a team have such a great preseason then fall apart in this rinky dink conference. something is going on.
Ksatl with a kill, UH has closed to 19-15. TO CSUN
22 Shoji did say something about some wrinkles-
maybe this is what he meant? LOL!
On a side note, the quality of the video stream is good and free 🙂
Whatever has happened since the Long Beach trip , I don’t like it, this isn’t the same team out there and I think a lot of it has to do with the setting.
Hartong with another kill, her 10th. UH trails 21-19. TO CSUN
listening to the matadors commentators is one for the record. The most immature comments…CSUN should fire this guy.
Shoji also did mention before that UH is very easy to scout for opposing teams. Perhaps with a season under their belts against Hawaii, the opposing coaches are preparing much better game plans.
27 Could be a student doing the broadcast?
UH within 21-20.
I turn those two clowns off they spend more time talking about baseball than anything else
It’s actually great for the sport to see lots of people (including the student body) at a volleyball match.
UH had a swing for the set at 24-23. Hartong hits long. to tie it.
CSUN takes a 25-24 lead but Hartong with another kill ties it at 25.
Football, baseball, mens sports……everything but what’s happening in front of them
Matadors win 28-26.
How about some blocking, Wahines?
sH*tty playing. Cindy why are the girls so lack luster lately?
sorry as great as she is, Hawaii loss when Hartong missed that last serve
your guess is as good as mine. they had trouble in this gym last year.
28 Beauston, I agree with you. Those Matador commentators stray from the topic a lot, talking about football and they don’t have nice voices.
As for the second set itself, it was another nailbiter with missed opportunities to put Northridge away. This time Northridge clung by the skin of their teeth. Looks like we’re in for a long session. Hope Hawaii doesn’t fall apart.
You have to give credit to CSUN. Not the same team who played last year. They are so much better this time around.
Kudos to Wahine for fighting it out and closing it out to almost stealing set 2 after trailing 6 points.
As always Dave calls the time out 3 points too late.
What happenned to the fire like when they played Texas?
or maybe Kaleo B. pulled a Snowden stunt.
Just kidding!
They miss their assignments, looking scared or worse not interested. Longo is doing all she can, she needs help passing wise.
Close but no cigar.
One thing that have noticed about Hawai`i teams of late, they depend a lot on the other team making mistakes then late in the set when it doesn’t happen they decide to go to work but that doesn’t always work.
Hartong should not pass in the back row. Put Kastl instead.
the crowd certainty doesn’t sound like factor.
46. Hartong is one of the main passers. They aren’t going to put Kastl in to pass.
CSUN crowd is pretty nasty. not the classiest school.
Man passer yes, but at the moment, that is how CSNU makes most of its points, serving Hartong. She is human so taking her out is not a bad thing.
49. and you know this how? just curious.
50 agreed.
lived in socal most of my adult life, countless friends who went there. almost went there.
50. CSUN has scored over 60 points tonight, Hartong was aced twice. hardly think that’s how CSUN is scoring most of its points.
CSUN on a 4-0 run, lead 13-11
Manu would be better to vary her shots, she is not at Punahou anymore.
CSUN on a 6-0 run. UH down 15-11.
no TO?
really
it took CSUN 6 points before he called for one.
Nikki not playing good tonight. please take her out.
It’s 15-11 in favor of Northridge. Commentaros state that Hawaii is self-destructing. Sadly that’s true. I wonder if the girls are tired from the long travel. When did they fly to Los Angeles anyway?
Wahine making plans to stay home at the end of the season.
59
yesterday morning
Matches like tonight make me seriously question Emily’s chances on the national team, I just don’t see her making it, passing like this.
I already see Uiato dropping out of first/second team all american recognition with her play the past few weeks.
60. don’t be ridiculous
the worst ive seen Hartong play all season long
UH down 18-14. TO UH.
Anyone cares to mention the big elephant in the room?
Funny comment from one of the announcers about UH not playing a team like Northridge which hits really hard and is very tall. Guess Texas doesn’t count.
Wow. This is really bad. This reminds me of the Hawaii team that got swept by Utah State in the WAC tournament and then got smashed by Washington in the NCAAs. They just lost their mojo.
too bad they don’t show the score
62. it’s one match.
but how the voting for postseason honors goes.
First it’s all-Conference.
first team all-conference leads to all-Region.
first team all-region advance to all-america consideration.
I don’t think 60 is ridiculous. If Hawaii loses to Northridge comes in third place behind UCSB, Hawaii may not make the playoffs. Of course, Hawaii is not making deliberate plans to stay home at the end of the season, but it could happen if they don’t step it up right now!
Our outside hitters need a changeup dink. None of them have it. They only hit hard into the block or obvious dink.
UH up 20-19
common guys, the better team is the one winning, unfortunately its CSUN. They’ve done their howe work.
And did it well. Give them credit.
UH up 22-19. TO CSUN.
Uiato still serving.
71. It is totally ridiculous because their rpi won’t drop far enough down to not get an at large berth, they are at 9 right now!!
The commentators predicted that Hawaii would crush the fourth set and go to the fifth. For once I hope they are right. So far Hawaii is playing inspired with their backs to the wall. It’s a must-win set.
Taylor and Vorster team for UH’s 12th block. it’s 23-19
63. Cindy, as we’ve seen in other matches where UH struggles, certain posters take the doom-and-gloom approach. They panic and assume the very worst. Part of this is likely because fans expect UH to dominate all conference foes, based on past history. If UH loses this match and that match and so and so. Come on folks, if you can’t stomach some adversity, then maybe this is not the sport for you. Oh, and I just saw, UH is up 23-19.
UH’s 8-0 runs ends. but it’s still 24-20.
CSUN service error ends it. 25-20
Never mind. Haha.
Great serving run by Uiato. Have to close them out in 4
hahahahah this broadcast is hilarious.
OMG, UH actually won that set. But if they lose two or three more matches, they will definitely be watching the NCAA tournament. In fact, UH will probably end the program due to the disappointing result. So enjoy these last few matches while you can. Its armageddon, its over.
Announcers, CSUN should have won.
now hes singing
I think Jim trained these two guys.
87. No, these guys are not making the mistakes Jim does.
84. OMG, let’s talk about armageddon when it happens.
88 disagree
having them on broadcast is a mistake
89. I guess sarcasm doesn’t translate very well on this blog.
90. Then complain to CSUN
two aces by Mendoza makes its 7-3. TO CSUN.
not complaining, merely emphasizing
91. no it doesn’t because it’s hard to discern between sarcasm and negative comments. just read some of the above posts.
I’m sorry I got totally confused. I think there was a time warp in the broadcast. Sometimes it goes backwards to a previous point. I thought we lost set 3 when we actually won it. I also think the commentators were mistaken about which set they were talking about.
They say that it’s the absence of the physical body that makes it difficult to determine where a poster is coming from.
UH had led 8-3. Matadors have come back to 8-7. TO UH
94. I wrongly assumed u read my post #84.
Blowing the lead
Why are we not playing strategically at all? Why not a floor wipe or some gamesmanship?
now Wahine playing like they are in warm ups
Do we have coaches?
Matadors on another run. CSUN leads 12-9. make that 13-9 when stuffing Hartong. Kastl in for Hartong.
Stop the bleeding. Stop. Coach. Someone. Please.
Seriously awful.
shoji will call a TO at 20-11 CSUN
103 about time
Do we have a middle block?
I think Shoji’s brilliant plan is to let them with this game so that we can surprise them in the 5th.
Hartong back into serve, serves it long. 16-12. now 17-12
Is anyone plotting the other team’s tendencies? Seriously it’s very obvious.
HOoray. remember when you were scoring points in the middle? try that again. It’s a good idea. Because points are good.
A chance to wrap it up 3-1 need to play harder.
And how about set Hartong in the middle back every time because there are never any blockers up?
90. Beauston, you may be right on the announcers. I just heard a reference to red vines. Reminds me of Jim’s discussion of sticky rice during a UH football game 20 years ago.
Okay when I said that, I didn’t mean set Hartong three times in a row in the middle back.
Uiato being way to predictatable now.
Adolpho was asleep on the job. She could have knocked down an overpass and she even missed an easy set. Bring in Tuaninga. I think Adolpho is tired and unfocused.
Mita does what Shoji tells her what to do . I don’t blame her for everything.
Hartong out of the back row Wahine within 22-21. TO CSUN. .
CSUN out coaching Hawaii. thats how yo call your T/O
hawaii just making too many unforced errors.
that was tuaninga
Matadors derving for the set 24-22. TO UH.
yeah – now timeout. brilliant!
let me guess
ball goes to Hartong, uiato sets hartong, hartong gets roof, CSUN wins set4
Manu-Olevao blocked. 25-22. on to Set 5.
on to game 5
Close but wrong player
Middle blocker let a ball slip by her after she touched it. Was that Adolpho again? So now Matadors took the fourth set and we’re going to five. Too many missed opportunities. Ouch!
missed on Hartong but CSUN knew where Uiato is going and they were there waiting.
any stats?
UN is 6-1 in 5 set matches UH 1-2
he should switch hartong to right and taylor to left this set
Hawaii down 5-3 in Set 5. TO UH. Wahine are 1-2 in five setters, CSUN 6-1
Bring out the wrinkles, Dave.
Matadors up 8-7 at the changeover.
Watch Ah-Mo Santos she gets into it.
Not looking good. UH down 10-7. TO UH.
now timeout? now? seriously? does shoji pay attention to the score?
This is over, goodnight.
Again too many missed opportunities. Cindy is right. It’s not looking good at all and it looks like Northridge will win. They want it more.
Dave is out of sync
good job, northridge. better team with better coaches.
CSUN serving for the match 14-9
Matadors win 15-10. be back in a bit
Horrible!! No other words.
so where do you think they’ve be sent to?
Dave is not all there
When you’re a one trick pony guess what happens.
So now Hawaii fell to third place. Seems like UCSB and Northridge will duke it out for first place and Hawaii lost control of its fate now. Well, on Senior night, the best they can hope for is to end positive with a victory, but now playoffs are in doubt. Hawaii still has to play UCSB on the road. Too bad. If Hawaii doesn’t make the playoffs seems like Shoji will retire promptly. It will get only harder next year with the graduation of so many seniors.
This loss may have cost UH a seed. Not a lot of room for error when your conference opponents’ RPI is weak.
149 nope, not at all. CSUN just bought themselves an RPI somewhere in the 60’s. Hawaii, got themselves the wrinkle Shoji was talking about.
Enough said.
149. USC where else??
Probably a first round match up against San Diego or some other similar team,
This team has really imploded!
At least they’ll be warm in Decemberstaying home
All the other teams are really inspired to play UH. UH doesn’t seem to have the same inspiration. What has happened to Adolpho in the last three games. This year is turning to be not what we expected. The team is only as good as how Tai and Taylor play. If they don’t play really well, UH chances are slim.
148 Beauston, you wonder where Hawaii will be sent to? Will Hawaii even be sent at all? One of their players is confident that they can beat Hawaii at home on senior night. So Northridge is hoping to win the Big West Title. If they beat UCSB at home, they’ll both share the title, that’s a given. So don’t worry about where Hawaii will be sent to. An at large bid is no prize here. UCSB in first round is the best option. Penn State, the worst option, Washington, just as bad. Sad, sad end.
151. You are soo dumb. They would have to lose the rest of the matches to not make the tourney.
156 you also have to factor in Uiato, Surprised she was not yanked. She played for CSUN tonight by setting the balls where the CSUN blockers were waiting. probably per Shoji, sure.
I least we don’t have to worry about hosting. It is how you finish in the NCAA Tournament that counts. This helps us not to worry about being unbeatable! It is very humbling! After the lost to UCSB snd watching the alumnae match, the team’s desire and chemistry is not like it was like the start of the season. There seems to be some uneasiness on the team. Now, we can sit back and just do the best in the 2nd part of the regular season, then maybe turn the gear back up in post-season. What happened to that PASSION????
157 relax, see 158
Correction. USC in the first round, not UCSB. Or maybe they won’t go anywhere.
159. Warriorfan, I hope I’m so dumb and wrong. But note that in the past few years they sent only one or maximum two teams to the playoffs. A couple of years ago Long Beach, Fullerton and Cal Poly tied for number of Big West Conference wins and yet Cal Poly got excluded from the playoffs. I was shocked then. So now I’ve come to expect the worst.
163.
That may be true but Cal Poly didn’t beat several top 25 teams that year. Nor were they ranked. Hawaii will make the tourney as long as they don’t fall apart the rest of the season. Sometimes a lower seed/no seed can really help a team draw well in the tourney. For example the 2009 year when UH went to the final four. They had a low seeding and their draw in the tourney was much easier than others when they were seeded higher.
There is no way Hawaii will be in the tournament. Based o.n Prev selections by committee there’ll only be 1 team from BW, csun or ucsb, I don’t see wahine leaving the islands in dec
I’m so pissed cuz nobody knows how to dink a Dang ball
I believe the last time UH was an at-large was when they were upset by Utah State in the WAC tourney.
Hawaii can easily lose a couple of more matches the season; I have pretty much given up hope for Hawaii hosting the 1st round. However, it will easily make the the top 64 teams. Hawaii will have to collapse to miss the tourney. Remember, CSUN is one of the top teams in the Big West, was playing at home, and had to win in five. People forget that Hawaii is considered one of the traditional national powers. Hawaii lost, but the other top teams will all have their losses. The Big 10 and Pac 12 teams have murderous schedules.
Is the conference possibly getting better or is UH imploding?
165.
I think you’re jumping way too quickly to that conclusion. It’s funny how quickly fans turn and jump ship on a team and even more surprisingly against the volleyball team.
Sry I’m too dramatic lol
Re. 165 soo stupid,
UH’s rpi is too high for them not to get a bid, again , soo stupid!!
Maybe UH is in some kind of mid-season funk…
It seems they peaked ,@ the Texas match, nd never been the same?
163 Maybe Shoji is going ala 2009? A little risky dont you think?
I do agree though with whoever said it earlier that UH’s success depends a lot on the play of Taylor and Olevao, also to to mention the middles. Hartong is an amazing player and athlete but relying all on her makes Hawaii way too one dimensional. Still a lot of volleyball to be played so hopefully they bounce back.
Great teams win Big games!
Maybe Shoji bachi’d the team – remember his speech when he was the winningest coach – he said we have a pretty good team and we will probably go far – oops not so fast.
i give up. Why is Dave so sullen on the sidelines. Its time.
Just from what I see, the middles in particular, their body language is so glum when the team gets in a funk…
Still think it’s too early to say they don’t win the conference.
Agree they got predictable. do think Hartong is being overused
Disagree with the one-trick pony comment however. They’ve shown good balance but it seems if Hartong is having an off night, she gets little help. and then it becomes a catch 22. where they end up going to her more because she isn’t getting help.
Too many comments to even address tonight.
And for some reason I’m no longer getting notifications when people post.
so I’m calling it a night rather than go through 170-plus comments.
one thing to note: all of Hawaii’s losses have come in five. CSUN now 7-1 in five setters. UH 1-3.
and no, didn’t speak with Shoji tonight. We had a stringer covering the match for us at CSUN.
Of course the middles aren’t ready and in a funk, hardly used, almost like coming of the bench and asked to produce a kill. The main difference is that they are actually in the game and ignored by the setter and used as a blocker only. The setter needs to involve all the hitters and not ignore some, the other teams know we ignore our middles.
Stats are very telling, Hartong and Olevao set 63%, 121 of 191 and Vorster and Adolpho set 14.6%, 28 of 191. This definitely is MB ignored.
184. hollycow. A definite fix is to start Higgins, a new quarterback may do wonders to go towards evening out the set distributions.
I’m not expecting any lineup changes. Shoji is the type of coach who tends to stick with a lineup once he’s made up his mind. I think something is wrong though, passing has really been off the last few weeks.
Wow the fans really bloggers and fans really love the Wahine so much that we want them to be so successful and have a magical year. Sometimes a season with trials and roadblocks like the last 2 losses can transform to a rewarding run at the post season. This is the time both the players and coaches need to step up for what said after the Texas win and after Coach Shoji’s record setting win. ” This team has great chemistry and no drama”. ” This team got what it takes to go all the way”. Well now for both the players and Coach Shoji…..It’s time to prove it!”
Said it twice before,saying it again, Uiato is telegraphing her set to the
outside. Why the coaches aren’t picking it up? Who knows? Will they
nominate Uiato for POW like last week? UCSB coaches played the “tell”
last week, now the everybody knows, except………….
Ho, that was a hard match to watch. It’s easy to get upset and coach from the couch. However, if we are truly supporting the girls and the coaches, we would see how UH adjusted by tightening their blocking and receiving better on the tough serving. (Notice the trend of UH’s losses to tough-serving teams?) As Cindy said, all of UH’s losses came in five sets. Not four. No sweeps. UH is a good team. Finally, although it has come at our expense, it’s good to see competition in the BWC. That can only help UH better prepare for the playoffs this year and going forward. How UH responds when they play UCSB and CSUN in a few weeks will show me whether UH has what it takes.
Interesting to hear what Nebraska Coach John Cook had to say about its loss to Purdue. Sounds very familiar. He said that “it was not rocket science” to figure out how teams will attack his team. They will attack the left-side hitters, Kelsey Robinson and Kadie Rolfzen, who receives almost 50 percent of Nebraska’s attack. Of course, the solution is better offensive production from the middles and right side. What John Cook could have added is that teams will target Robinson on serves like UC Irvine coach, Paula Weishoff, instructed her team to target Hartong [“We served her every ball for God’s sakes” (37 of them)]. Hartong and Manu-Olevao represented over 60% of Hawaii’s attack against CSUN. That is very common this year. This is the reason why Shoji said that Hawaii is “very easy to scout.” In fact ALL teams will have the same strategy. 1st target Hartong on serves. Second, to quote CSUN’s Mahina Haina, “We tried to make sure we were going to block her….We made sure that we always knew where she was and where her attacking line was.” As John Cook said, “this is not rocket science.”
Agree that the middles are needed to be more of the offense, even if the pass isn’t perfect. Just some comments/observations IMHO of course…
1) All the OH’s are not good dinkers, with Kanani as a gold standard comparison. Seems like Emily and Tai in particular seem to think too often the only solution to being blocked is to hit harder…of course sometimes you’ll get it off the block. But if the opponent has your hitting timing in synch with a well formed block. What about changing up hitting speed, hitting contact point, even just a little?
2) Ali has done a good job as any in picking up dinks.
3) Why does Emily go to the hard top-spin jump serve 100% of the time? Especially when she is tiring out? A top-spin jump serve with not much juice on it is just the same as a lollipop slow serve with little or no float to it. Why not work on the standing floater for her as well?
BTW,
for several minutes of the Matadors webcast, I thought one of the announcers was a girl (woman)…just sayin…
(189) (190) I agree. Our team is a great team. Nothing against Uiato but when I saw those well formed blocks by UCSB on both sides of the court
one has to wonder. Targeting the strongest hitter, as (190) said, is standard
defense. Ranked teams did this against Hartong, yet Hawaii beat them with
a OPP and middle attack. UCSB, an unranked team, shutdown Hartong AND
Taylor. If you watch the UCSB match you will see Hartong and Taylor hitting
into well formed blocks every time they were set. Difficult enough to target
one side well, almost impossible both sides well. UCSB was doing it, and
well. Only one possible answer for UCSB’s blocking success – their blockers KNEW where the ball was being set on serve/receive. Knowing early the
direction of the set is an advantage for the defense as it allows the micro
time to close a block. UCSB’ MB could only be reading Uiato’s setting motion
and leaning, even moving in the right direction, BEFORE Uiato’s fingers
touched the ball. A good setter disguises her intended set in order to hold the opposing MB in position for as long as possible. In order to disguise her
intended set she plans her approach such that she is moving forward and
under the ball. This forward movement under the ball gives her options –
set the hitter in front of her as she approaches; set the middle as she passes
under, or backset the hitter behind her. In the UCSB match, Uiato would
set herself early under the ball, then move to set. UCSB coaches in scouting
found this flaw, and exploited it. Ever try backsetting from a static position
without letting the whole world know what you intend to do?
As said earlier, love this team, the girls, and their spirit.
UH has ALWAYS overused their outside hitter. A coach could look at tape of UH from 1990 and get a complete scouting report. Nothing’s changed. UH out in 2nd round of NCAA.
You win or lose the fickle fans come out with all their knowledge on how to coach a team please give me a break….I’m sorry our team lost but it happens to the best of them. Support the Wahines no matter what. The team is in good hands.
Cindy: The 3 losses for UH this year, San Diego, Santa Barbara and Northridge, I think , correct me if I am wrong, that all 3 of those teams had former Hawaii prep VB stars. Add Mahina Haina to the list of prep stars, ILH player of the year, to get victory against Dave Shoji and gals.
I think, the 4 national championships that Dave Shoji and Wahine were part of, none of those teams went undefeated correct? Dave has to go back to drawing board, I don’t know, work the middles more, the middles and setter, as long with serve receive game has to be spot on.
Whole thing, now, play for best position for BWC tournament, Hawaii needs help now.
Very hard thing to do, win a national championship, so much parity, WVB and MVB, so many good athletes!
Great observation 195. San Diego (Olivera), UCSB (Santi), Northrige (Haina) all coming from the private high schools here played a major parts in their teams wins. What can you say about our local talent? Hawaii No Kai Oi!!! I hate losing but good to see people we know and familar with get those wins over us. Some part of Hawaii is still winning. At least, there was something positive in a negative outcome .