10-10 Top 25, Big West scores
1. Stanford def. No. 16 Arizona, 25-23, 24-26, 25-20, 25-20
3) Washington def. Oregon State 25-21, 25-20, 23-25, 25-13
4) Florida State def. Louisville 25-21, 24-26, 25-18, 25-22
6) Wisconsin def. Rutgers 25-8, 25-17, 25-15
8) Nebraska def. Michigan State 25-20, 25-18, 22-25, 25-23
9) Florida def. Georgia 25-14, 25-15, 25-16
11) Oregon def. Washington State 18-25, 25-17, 25-14, 25-23
12) North Carolina def. Virginia 25-23, 25-14, 25-16
13) Kentucky def. Tennessee 25-19, 25-20, 25-13
17. UCLA def. Utah, 22-25, 25-20, 25-18, 22-25, 15-13
18) Arizona State def. Cal 23-25, 25-20, 25-17, 25-21
19) Texas A&M def. Alabama 20-25, 25-14, 21-25, 25-20, 15-5
20) USC def. Colorado 25-20, 25-18, 25-19
21) Hawaii lost to Cal State Northridge 17-25, 20-25, 21-25
22) Duke def. Boston College 25-17, 25-15, 25-18
23) Minnesota def. Maryland 25-15, 26-24, 25-17
Cal Poly def. CSU Fullerton 25-22, 25-16, 22-25, 25-21
UC Irvine def. UC Santa Barbara, 23-25, 25-23, 25-14, 22-25, 15-9
Before asu loss was the worst match of the season, until tonight.
Just awful all the way around, Olivia and Kalei A were okay, but weren’t set nearly enough,mostly cause of the awful passing display by the wahine back row players.
1, Agree…Wahine OH’s need to play much better…UH can’t win with just its middles…Looks like UH was the only upset, but the UCLA-Utah & TAMU-Alabama scores look interesting…
1. the middles played as well as they could given their limited sets. UH couldn’t pass well enough to set the middles.
Magill 4-1-10, Adolpho 3-0-6.
Sarah probably had her worst match of the season thus far. She missed a lot of balls hit right at her area of the court. She usually gets 12-15 digs in 3 set games. Hope she rebounds and digs more tomorrow and that Olevao/Greeley get their passing together.
i dunno why my comment was deleted but yeah #4 said it.
no passing especially sarah was good and was undoubtly the worst.
dave ought drill that passing tomorrow except drill on passing bullets, blocking downwards to mitigate tooling and perhaps even put some stress drills including serving fanatically (for example do jumping jacks until winded than serve bombs)
add to that drill on digging bullets and passing. thats probably most important right now. and sarah needs to step it up as a senior. nikki taylor had the most digs and greeley was tied with digs with sarah which at 8 is a lackluster number of digs.
this image says it all.
http://www.gomatadors.com/sports/w-volley/2014-15/photos/Conati0199.jpg
and btw koelsch should of been in early as setter considering csuns replacement freshman setter is 6′ 1 just like kendra is. gave a certain advantage comparing to tayler higgins, higgins in that case should of been used for serving purposes instead.
Like it or not, here’s the facts.
Hawai’i can sweep any school not in the AVCA Top 25 or — now that we know the RPIs — any team not ranked in the top 25 in NCAA RPI.
Hawai’i cannot beat any school in the AVCA Top 25 or top 25 of the NCAA RPI. Harsh words but true thus far.
Thus, it should not come as a shock that CSo09iUN — ranked 20th in the NCAA’s power rating — won.
Thus, the Bows should beat LBSU, which is neither a Top 25 in the Coaches Poll nor a top 25 in the “official” RPI.
Obviously, this idea of winning by committee — “she’s so good at spreading the wealth around” — works, but not when faced with serious opposition. Gut check time, which means it’s time for Team Shoji to make ad hoc changes, even if the committee likes it or not.
It would be NOW or never. I’m a long-time Wahine fan and do not want to see them go gently into the night; for, where’s the fight in what was once Dave Shoji coached teams??
Coach fumbled early when rather than going with his instinctual prompt, in conjunction with Nikki being injured–who would’ve shouldered much of the offense from the getgo, despite fans calling for Greeley at OH he’d be moving forward with:
OH1, Long
OH2, Olevao / DS, Mendoza
M1, Magill
M2, Adolpho
OPP, Taylor (who switches out with Tai ala 2009 Ferrell/Cubi-Otineru)
S, Higgins
Libero, Kahakai
Shoji’s job, in managing, is to ensure that it’s all kept real–see also, power–while the keeping of emotions in self-control can be found all the way around.
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Too late? I don’t think so!
9. don’t remember fans calling for Greeley given that she’s played in every match. She might not have started early but that was in part to her not being 100 percent after rolling an ankle the first week of practice.
Shoji would need to “spin the dial”, additionally, should it warrant him doing so for strategic positional placement(s) mid-matches.
8. yes but knowing shoji, hes back to his old tricks again and resulted in this failure. he needs to pull out his ‘magic dust’ he supposedly has.
btw in set 2 where point was awarded by official to csun, now that was the most dubious. if it was rotation error, theres shoji didnt manage again like vs irvine. otherwise on tv it was said to be some sort of overlap violation, wait what?
set 3 ball handling error because ginger set it and it looked perfectly fine.
at match point they said a net violation (on magill i think) and it was recreated to be a block error by tai.
also noteworthy tonight despite the service errors to the end via fanatical serving start in set 3. kalei adolpho served once and it was a nice cannon of a serve from a standing float, why couldnt they have her as the captain take a shot at controlling passes while magill is concurrently in the middle on the court?
The setter’s position, more than all others, is the one spot on the floor most ‘a’ffected by substitutions/new lineups/varying personalities.
Higgins was I’m certain comfortable with the initial starting lineup–back a month ago. She was still working out her own idiosyncratic kinks along the way, but to have thrown sooo much at her this early and to do so at so great an extent has again ‘a’ffected the entire team. The team’s leader is always and will always be it’s quarterback. & how the heck is your star middle Magill suppose to get any better w/o persons to pass around her? WTx?
Long Beach isn’t a guarantee as everyone already knows. Yet
UH, 3-2 over (AVCA Oct.6th Top 25 listed) LBSU!!!
12. a rotation error is not the same as an overlap.
Last week UH was out of rotation because Taylor served when she wasn’t supposed to.
This was a hard match to watch. They looked unmotivated and CSUN was clearly playing to win. We just couldn’t pass or dig their hitters. They were blasting balls straight to the floor as if there was no block or no one there to dig a ball…time after time after time. The wahine just didn’t show up tonight to play. I hope they play better tomorrow.
And Dave needs to use his subs like he has all season. Not sure why he went away from that tonight, it’s been working all season long.
notes on this match:
wahine did this with lesser problems: keep the ball from being dumped over
koelsch shows how she would be an elite beach volleyball player
speaking of beach volleyball, csun displays battle tactics (block signals) like in beach volleyball showing they plan something ominous on na wahine
adolpho, koelsch and nikki taylor were the ones who bravely led at the front
what shoji is recommended or should do:
1. manage from the rotation errors thing, it is a repeat from last match and this time was a contributing factor and costly.
2. match size for size (ie csuns debut freshman setter is 6’1, should of put in koelsch also 6’1 in and early) especially to be the equalizer. tayler higgins in this case can serve/receive.
3. instruct tayler higgins to not have her back turned towards the net just the while the ball is being dug by the opponent (and it goes without saying when its set or about to be hit)
4. charge his captains as leaders, such as:
in the case of receiving/passing back-court difficulties, attempt to use adolpho as a sort of back row player particularly middle back and have her responsible for it (she did serve once and strongly), she can be an auxiliary back row player and perhaps the passing becomes a different story than bad and furthermore she can see more from the back court as a leader.
charge mendoza to be more hardy, faster and more so responsible for the back court in receiving, passing, digging the ball. she being needed to communicate to all others that ‘she got it’ unless its beyond her reach.
charge tai to keep mendoza ahead when she is backcourt with her and for herself to direct her fanaticism at targets (opposing players), since after all she is capable of swinging bullets which may be less accurate towards areas (empty court) unless given a different opportunity.
5. deploy his mobile reserves (empty his bench), including as extra sturdier armor (blocking) such as huff and maglio, and even as auxiliary players if receiving/passing/digging isnt good and at the back row.
hey cindy ask dave how mad he is about the match and what hes going to do about the beach. it is better you ask him so to score/maximize ‘publicity points’.
first off , CSNU is a veteran team and played like it–UH looked lagged/ragged. Will not get into “opinions” but will say Mendoza (and the whole team) still making critical errors at worst times (yes , Coaches have to play what they got) ! I have never played organized volleyball , but have never served into the net (also , have never overpassed) ! CSNU court looks hard to gauge (confusing schemes). Awaiting rematch at SSC—–Go Wahine
Shoji is set in his ways but I agree with 18 about him using his reserves. They may be freshmen’s but I bet they are so eager to get out and play it may make a difference.
Good luck to the Wahine for tonight’s match but its going to be a tougher one.
Woke up at 3 am mad as hell. Losing not the problem but wished it would have at least gone 5.
21. Beat you by 1/2 hour.
9. I don’t mind changing things up, but that shouldn’t happen vs your main competition, as it should be sorted out by now.
Here is your suggestion…
OH1, Long
OH2, Olevao / DS, Mendoza
M1, Magill
M2, Adolpho
OPP, Taylor (who switches out with Tai ala 2009 Ferrell/Cubi-Otineru)
S, Higgins
Libero, Kahakai
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Here is mine…
OH1, Taylor (seems to struggle with getting her shots in from OPP)
OH2, Greely (going to see how she is doing on receive, maybe sub DS, Mendoza)
M1, Magill
M2, Adolpho
OPP, Koelsch (who switches out Huff on front row)
S, Higgins (who switches out with Maglio on front row)
Libero, Kahakai
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Now that lineup may need some adjustment time, but it gives a blocking lineup that should be able to compete with any Div 1 team. It also utilizes the two setters out of the back row to have three options on the attacking front line.
Either lineup needs time to gel, and should have been done long before last nights match in order to implement it.
19. HEY, no. Didn’t talk to him. we had a stringer. read today’s paper. But I know he was not happy.
20. not sure where he would have put in the reserves. Their problems were all related to passing. The middles were doing fine, just didn’t get set enough. so not sure how much Maglio could have done.
Passi used on the right. He wasn’t going to sub out Taylor for her.
Huff still getting used to being an OH.
Perhaps he is babying the newcomers too much.
The thing is, they can’t just have people go in and out of the lineup. There are substitution limitations. they have to look at who is in the blocking scheme together and passing rotation.
They played poorly. They know it. We knew this was going to be a tough road trip. We’ll see how they respond at The Beach.
13. problems i see with your lineup:
Taylor as the L1. that position takes a lot of swings. Don’t believe she is ready to do that.
Greeley is the L2. She plays six rotations. She passes well but didn’t last night. No one did.
Libero: point is moot at the moment with Kahakai not on the road trip.
Manu-Olevao is one of their best weapons (outside of Magill when she’s able to be set and Taylor when she’s on). She was very inconsistent last night.
CSUN had a good defensive plan for Hawaii. They didn’t block for points but they touched a lot of balls, altered shots and dug well.
You have Higgins subbing for Maglio but already list 2 middles. Not sure how that is supposed to work.
9. LONGs a MUST, do you even bother to look at the stats. Long is hitting .043 for the season 33-27-140, and you want her at OH1???
Clndy, thanks for inserting some sanity into the discussion.
27. Yes. All these people with their coaching suggestions are the leading candidates to replace Shoji when he retires.
Their flight delayed how many hours? Not a good way to start the road trip. I believe this had an affect on their body and minds. Was it a 7 hour delay? Hope they are able to bounce back agains LB.
I’m sure you all read Nikki’s quote about passing being a fickle skill. “When you’re on you’re really on, when you’re off, you’re really off. Tonight just wasn’t our night.” It kinda confirmed what I was thinking. That collectively the team consciousness was I’m/we’re off. Shoji and staff just couldn’t push the right buttons to get the team going. I was hoping Koelsch or Long could come in and provided that spark. I don’t think you can ask freshmen like Maglio or Huff to come in and settle the troops. Again, I think it was more mental than the tactics or personnel.
tossup/wildcard. In football they call it “one snap and clear” what do they call it in volleyball when you want the team to move past an error and not to compound it. I’m surprised you haven’t revived the question why Baby G was passed over. Also do you think a healthy Kahakai would have helped.
25. I think that you are addressing my proposed lineup there. The lineup isn’t about today, it is about developing the team and offering up a blocking front row. Good point on Taylor, her arm would have to be 100%. As for Maglio in for Higgins, that is taking Maglio out of her intended MB and to play OH, well in this case outside blocker, allowing both Koelsch and Higgins to play only in the back row as setters. This is all too late in the season to incorporate as the lineup, just tossing out speculation on the setter position.
Are wildcard and Steve/Laura the same person?
Two thirds of the monikers you see here are the same person. 😉
32. since you want to consider it with football. na wahine had a bad snap and csun made them pay just like what the seahawks did to the broncos last super bowl. to move past an error and not compound it, i call it mental/tactical. for example csuns boykin in set 1 knew she would get blocked by the same big blockers (taylor and magill) the second time since she smashed it through the first time, so she tipped it over instead (im not sure if thats also called reading your opponent) and it worked every time for her. also i made no mention of kahakai other than in the other blog that she is left behind and absolutely no mention of baby g whatsoever. i do not know if a healthy kahakai would help, however i do agree with somebody who mentioned kahakai even when struggled played better than mendoza.
34. no im not those. i dunno who those are.
Penn St. just lost in four at home to Illinois…
passing is the problem — but there’s no quick fix there. not while kahakai is still not available (imo, she could help stabilize passing. inserting her won’t make it perfect, but she is a solid option off the bench).
the D set to taylor is not the weapon it can be …yet, at least not while taylor is not 100%. i’d like to see the switch made — switch olevao and taylor. allow taylor to take more swings on the left, where she’s much more comfortable. olevao is capable on the right, as both a hitter and blocker. have her be a passing opposite, and sub kahakai (when she’s back) in for her when olevao struggles passing through the back row.
the adjustments need to be made in the passing department. this team is not an out-of-system sideout or point-scoring team … at least not yet. they need to be in system as much as possible.
one key thing left out is csun also used their middles as outsides right away, and had them pulling on that step out ie hinger and kaul so the scouting on csun is somewhat accurate. in contrast adolpho made a few slides due to the bad pass and all.
39. yeah olevao is capable on the right thats evident. nikki took shots on the right that were mostly blunted. they did switch olevao and taylor but that didnt stay for long.
These are the matches I am following this weekend (from a previous post):
OCT 11 (Saturday)
Illinois [rpi 11th/poll 15th] @ Penn State [rpi 16th/poll 5th]
Hawai’i @ LBSU [rpi 38th/poll unranked but received votes]
Note: #38 above gave us the results of the Fighting Illini vs PSU match.
OCT 12 (Sunday)
Washington [rpi 6th/poll 3rd] @ Oregon [rpi 5th/poll 11th]
Texas A&M [rpi 18th/poll 19th] @ Florida [rpi 10th/ poll 9th]
28. don’t know if it was sanity or 6:30 a.m. grumpiness.
New thread up.
Just watched the match…Hawaii just plainly looked uncomfortable from the get go…they played their worst game of the season now the true test is how they respond after an abysmal performance…yes that was embarrassing but we know that was not them…hopefully they can respond with a win tonight…Go Bows!
Bad pass & LBSU block to start…
well wheres the blog for vs the beach?
Wahine looks so unmotivated…need a spark or something
I’m glad huff is in
aauughh the nightmare continues! someone pls. wake me up… bring back Na Wahine… i know…
Is this team coached at all?!? We can’t serve, we can’t pass, we can’t play defense, what is going on?
Sarah Mendoza…. Wake up and do your job!