Congrats to Maglio, Iosia, Kahakai, Granato; Big West expands
Hawaii lands 4 on all conference first team
http://www.bigwest.org//story.asp?story_id=20128
No Wahine on honorable mention or all-freshman
POY: Nelson of Cal Poly
FOY: White, UC Davis
COY: Crosson, Cal Poly
http://hawaiiathletics.com/news/2017/11/27/general-csu-bakersfield-uc-san-diego-to-join-big-west-conference.aspx
joining are UC San Diego and Cal State Bakersfield
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Not that it matters but
Hawaii RPI at 37 in latest release
http://www.ncaa.com/rankings/volleyball-women/d1/ncaa-womens-volleyball-rpi
NCAA took Stanford (5) over Texas (4) as top-4 seed. other three the same: Penn State Florida and Kentucky.
As mentioned on previous thread, believe that UCLA’s win over USC got the Bruins seeded and hosting. UCLA at 17 in RPI, up from 19; USC to 11.
Cal Poly 16 RPI. good enough to host. Will have to ask Crosson about that. Mustangs have a men’s basketball game conflict on Saturday so they could have gone Thur-Fir. hmmm
I’d take Robyn is COY, considering this is only her first year, getting a team used to her coaching and her system, trying to figure out how to replace the offensive power of Nikki Taylor… Just a couple of points here and there in two 5 set losses to Cal Poly could have made Hawai`i the undefeated BWC. Crosson, has worked with his team for years, got much added offensive power from Torrey van Winden, didn’t really have to do much, unlike Robyn had to. NOT saying Crosson is a bad coach, I’m just saying what each person had to do/deal with that led them up to being COY.
Sorry Cindy but it rubs me the wrong way for you to be excluded from the selection party. You are the single most important person who has made them the local media stars that they are. Robyn messed up, that is not the Hawaiian way IMO!
Congratulations to the All Big West first team selection for Mags, Kahakai, Iosia and Granato. Awesome !!!
Oh Gosh, let’s not stir the pot. I do appreciate all Cindy does for us as readers and subscribers and as fans of UH volleyball, but lets not get all huffs and puffs over the coach’s decision. Cindy also made it a point to say that she was “politely” told no. I’m sure it wasn’t an easy thing for the coaching staff to do, but let’s support that decision.
I like that Robyn is making her own decisions despite what has taken place in the past. This is her program now. She and her staff will make decisions they feel is best for the team. So far they have done an excellent job!
GO WAHINE!
3. Please don’t feel that way. I didn’t feel badly at all. I totally understood. No media was invited Totally a team thing.
I wasn’t offended and we got to talk later and with the players. Thank you to the SID Kara for making that happen.
Bakersfield, too?!
UCSD and Cal State Bakersfield to join the Big West. Bakersfield to start competing in 2020-21. UCSD to be determinted.
Well now we know how UCSD got their approval this time around… sweetened that CSU pot.
CSU Bakersfield is at 184 in the latest NCAA RPI, and UCSD is ranked 10 (out of 10) in the DII West Region. I hope both can elevate their programs when they join to avoid giving the rest of the BW teams an RPI hit.
9. i don’t think that’s what happened at all. CSUB has been trying to get in for awhile, as has Sac State. UCSD needed to fully commit to Div. I status. Actually though Sac State would get in ahead of Bakersfield. would have been an ideal travel partner with Davis.
CSUB was already a Big West affiliate in several sports. UCSD is in the new Big West men’s volleyball conference
http://hawaiiathletics.com/news/2017/11/27/general-csu-bakersfield-uc-san-diego-to-join-big-west-conference.aspx
10. part of Bakersfield RPI is due to playing in what’s left of the WAC.
they beat UTRGV in the conference tournament to win the AQ, will play Stanford Friday.
The Roadrunners upset New Mexico State, regular season champ, in the WAC tourney semifinals.
51. 11/27
Thank you.
What I loved most about the Last Four In was that they chose teams outside of the Power 5 over major conference teams with mediocre records.
Do you agree that what ultimately got Hawaii in was that Cal Poly won out?
Looks like it’s LiveStats for Friday’s match. OK with me. At least some live coverage.
Just checked the previous thread, sorry cindy, didn’t know u weren’t okay with “hey cindy” my bad, will try to keep that in mind. Hope OC16 goes!
With Bakersfield in, dies that mean Hawai‘i is still “odd man out” for travel partners?
15. If OC16 broadcasts the match between Hawaii and Illinois, I can’t watch it. If the Cal Poly – Denver match is shown online, I’ll watch that rather. At least I wouldn’t have a conflict, so your wish would work out for me as well.
I would have rather seen Sac State join the Big West Conference as it would be an ideal partner for Davis, only 20 miles apart. Well, I guess that Bakersfield will be paired up with Davis instead, still too far away. Why couldn’t the Big West Conference take into consideration ideal partners when accepting new teams? This poses extra hardships on all the teams.
Interesting note, small world. Apparently , theIllinois head coach Chris Tamas, was an assistant coach at Cal Poly a couple of years ago and his wife Jennifer, who is a volunteer assistant coach, was a teammate of Robyn Ah Mow- Santos on the national team.
14. Near the beginning of the selection show on Sunday, there was a screen titled “What you need to know.” At the bottom of the screen it stated “All games available on the ESPN app.” The Regionals are usually televised on ESPN channels as I recall, and I’m hoping that means that the subregionals will at least be streamed via ESPN3.
Adding the heights to Volleyman’s post on Nov. 26,
Illinois Volleyball:
Players to Watch Out For:
–Jordyn Poulter (S) 6-2
all-star recruit and sets a really great offense ( she has 95 kills)
–Ali Bastianelli (MB), 6-3
very good blocker and hits for a high percentage
–Megan Cooney (RS), 6-4
has turned it on as of late and a very terminable hitter
–Jacqueline Quade (OH), 6-2
primary left side hitter and gets many attempts
–Brandi Donnelly (L), 5-8
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Also–
— Tyanna Omazic MB, 6-2
— Beth Prince, OH 6-3
congrats to the wahine on the big west all-conference team! maglio, kahakai, iosia, and granato.
i looked at it quickly, but it looked like kahakai was the only libero on the first team. good for her!
i have mixed feelings about adding 2 more big west teams. having more conference matches, means fewer non-conference matches … which can potentially hurt the RPI. we’ll have to see how the big west sets up conference play, if they’ll do a true home and away with every team.
it is a small world. Tamas’ wife Jen and Ah Mow-Santos on the 08 Oly team, Tamas, former setter at UOP, was also training then at the OTC. Jen and Chris also were at UC Riverside coaching, besides Cal Poly, so they are very familiar with UH. Tamas played against the Warriors when he was at UOP. And they were at Nebraska until last year, including helping with the sand team that competed in Hawaii agains the SandBows.
As for TV, Spectrum has to wait for the Pac-12 to decide which of the subregionals they want to go to. They can put in a bid as early as Tuesday to do so. Kanoa Leahey unavailable to do VB so it may end up being Scott and Chris.
There are live stats
There will be radio, think 1420 AM If not, 1500
And then there’s always this live blog.
11. Actually that is exactly what happened. After UCSD students approved a referendum in 2016 to raise student athletic fees to support a move-up to Division 1, contingent upon receiving an invitation from the Big West, UCSD’s administration approached the conference about joining. That led to an initial polling of the nine current Big West members in April 2017 in which the four CSU chancellors voted as a block against adding UCSD, causing the proposal to fail (a minimum of seven yes votes were needed for passage). Here is the reason, as explained by UCSD’s chancellor Pradeep Khosla in a May 2017 article in the San Diego Union Tribune:
“If you look at the (Big West vote), I’m told, the UC chancellors voted yes and the Cal State chancellors voted no. And what I’m given to understand is that the Cal State leaders believe that Cal State Bakersfield should be admitted if UC San Diego is voted in. I’m also told that, in the past, Bakersfield’s request to be admitted into the Big West was not approved.
“I’m a pretty egalitarian, inclusive guy. My view is let both institutions be admitted. We are not doing this for the edification of the chancellor or the institution. We are doing this for these young men and women who are students. It’s not like we are going to make millions and millions of dollars. All of these campuses are not in big TV viewing areas.”
So UCSD got behind adding CSU Bakersfield, to make the CSU chancellors happy and preserve the voting balance between the UC and CSU schools in the conference. Another expansion vote was taken by the current Big West members two weeks ago and, lo and behold, this time around support was unanimous because both UCSD and CSU Bakersfield were included — i.e. because the pot was sweetened for the CSU members.
The possibility of Sac State joining the Big West has been discussed for years on the Big West and CSNBBS Conference Realignment message boards. The conventional wisdom is that Sac State hasn’t seriously pursued this because the school would have no place to put its football team if it left the Big Sky. Apparently the Big Sky values having an all-sports member in California for recruiting and visibility reasons, and so is not willing to give Sac State the same football-only membership deal that it’s given UC Davis and Cal Poly. Otherwise Sac State would have moved its non-football sports to the Big West long ago.
bakersfield and uc san diego to join big west?
so something at the bottom of the list/rpi joins and something at the bottom of D2 joins
i think 2013 will be the relative last time na wahine hosts – and they already blew it with that. sorry to say. even if na wahine went undefeated all preseason and conference unless theyve beaten several ranked teams besides ucla would they then be able to entertain the idea of hosting. big west having bakersfield and ucsd in? only the aq is going to the big dance, forget at-large. conference rpi/sos too low worse than riverside and fullerton is at.
add to that – should that happen, wahine ought to ditch big (wild, wild) west/california only and hopefully pac-12 would be smiling to let them in.
Ms. Luis, who picks the songs for Car Karaoke?
Doesn’t the organizer understand that the best songs to sing are from the seventies and eighties?
e.g. Scandal’s “The Warrior”, or Bruce Springsteen’s “Dancing in the Dark”.
There are a whole bunch of people in the arena who know all the lyrics to any Journey song.
Somebody is messing up a fun segment by poor song selection.
24. thank you. that’s not how it was explained to me
25. agree. remember talking to Shoji about it, how they will never host again, at least for the regional, because of how the seeding dictates things.
26. not happening. but funny you should say Wild Wild West. in 1987 when the PCAA was changing names Long Beach State AD John Kasser suggested Wild West during a media day luncheon … back when they had such things for volleyball.
27. no idea
Makes me mad that football should dictate Sac State’s fate in being prevented of joining the Big West Conference. Why should Cal Poly have more rights than Sac State in this regard? Conference composition should make it easy for pairs to host matches like Sac State and Davis. To allow politics to take precedence over the convenience of road travel for teams is just flabbergasting.
I don’t think that PAC12 would ever include Hawaii as there is no potential partner here. PAC12 has convenient partners for all its teams. Even Utah and Colorado are not that far apart that they would need a day separation for travel.
There was a time I thought UH had set sights on the Pac12, but it is now clear the state does not share the same vision. UH has to be happy to be in the Mountain West in football and the Big West for most of the other sports. I just wish the UHAD spent more time promoting their success in other sports such as women’s water polo. I am waiting for softball to get back to where they were four years ago. And there’s reason to feel baseball will be making some noise this coming season
Not crazy about the teams joining the Big West. But still the big West is perfect for Hawaii. Especially in baseball, soccer and basketball. Womens Volleyball is what we brought to the party. Also don’t we not have to pay subsidies to the newbies? Hate to hear hope about Pac 12. That ain’t going to happen ever.
30. Hawaii had sights on what was then the Pac-10. Stan Sheriff was in serious talks.
The bottom line, like in recruiting, just because you want someone doesn’t mean the other person wants you. The Pac-10/12 doesn’t want Hawaii.
The addition of UCSD makes for a good travel partner for UH.
24. So if the Big Sky values having an all-sports member in California … how do they justify allowing Cal Poly and Davis to keep football in the Big Sky and their other sports mostly in the Big West?
http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=45110
how about moving BWC expansion to new thread?