Miles follows Thomas out

To the surprise of few, sophomore point guard Bobby Miles became the second early departure from the UH men’s basketball team this spring, after Joston Thomas.

There was speculation about this going around for the last few weeks, but it was tough to nail down 100 percent until tonight. It might have even been accurate to report it sooner, but in this line of work you’re not supposed to take that chance until you know with total certainty. And that moment didn’t happen until Wednesday night, when coach Gib Arnold gave the go-ahead for a UH press release.

Miles had the occasional bright spot in his two-year UH career, including the 10-assist game against Chicago State as a true freshman. He was lauded by Arnold as one of the most consistent and dependable players on the “Warriors to Asia” tour in August, leaving the possibility that Miles would start in the backcourt for the regular season.

He did get the starting nod in seven games this season, but the progression in D-I play the UH coaches hoped for didn’t translate over. Ultimately, Miles’ playing time was generally capped at about 10 minutes in any given game. Once he fell out of favor late in the season, his PT disappeared entirely.

He had his limits — shooting and speed among them — but he could still contribute, particularly on the defensive end, where he was underrated. He also generally took care of the ball, boasting an effective, if limited, assist-to-turnover ratio.

Miles has an affable personality that should help him blend in wherever he lands. If he is truly interested in finding a program closer to home (L.A.), a Big West school would make a lot of sense. We may not have seen the last of him in the islands.

Arnold now should have three scholarships to work with for the spring signing period. Picking up another point guard with one of those slots would seem to be a must now. Going into UH’s first season of Big West play with just two point guards — Shaquille Stokes and Jace Tavita — would be dicey.


  1. Pauoa Boy April 5, 2012 7:04 am

    Hmm…Miles leaving, Joston leaving, maybe another too. I don’t like the fact that we don’t have some consistency with players sticking. How many have left already frikkin way too many. Salter, Coleman, Barnes, Brumfield, and now Thomas and Miles with maybe another one on the fence. Then our recruiting efforts have players not being able to qualify in Blakes, Stephenson, Mitchell, and Biggs possibly Fotu too? How can you build a team, a program when you got players coming and going with no consistency. Seems like something is going on, Coach Gib needs to figure it out cause I’m not liking this pattern at all. Going into next season with many unproven game time players besides Vander, Shaq, and Hauns doesn’t bode well. Shaq is still learning, Jace hasn’t played, Jawato hasn’t played, Lev is a freshman, Jefferson has no offensive game, Minns hasn’t played, that back-court right there looks hella weak to me. Then we got what Wiseman, Hauns, and Tyler Brown, umm yeah…Wiseman and Hauns are good but not great. The post aside from Vander is unproven. Rozitis is weak and looks lost at times. I’m hoping Stanhardinger is as good as advertised cause if not, we’ve got major issues next year. I highly doubt Dressler is ready to bang on the D1 level. If Fotu doesn’t make it then we’re in major trouble. On paper this does not look well for our basketball team and Coach Gib next year entering the Big West. Someone needs to step their game up big time!

  2. 808killah April 5, 2012 11:10 am

    Pauoa…relaxxxxxxx….and order a side of garlic fries and a heinnee…watch the game and let us witness the season unravel..

  3. rainbowfan April 5, 2012 11:27 am

    Why was Miles not allowed to play more after say a game for his mistake of missing the shoot around ? Wiseman had a run-in with Gib and was suspended but was allowed to play quite a bit, after apologizing to the coach and the team.

    Miles was pretty good defensively according to Brian and a pretty good ball handler, could pass well, had ability to drive for layups and apparently had a good disposition. If he was what Gib said he was in today’s article, then Gib seems to have mishandled Bobby.

    “I really appreciate the effort of Bobby Miles these last two years,” UH coach Gib Arnold said. “I enjoyed coaching him. We had some really good moments with Bobby. … I definitely wish him all the best in finding a place that suits his needs. He can help a lot of programs.”

  4. Hon2255 April 5, 2012 11:44 am

    Miles didn’t pan out as hoped. Just need to be more critical on recruiting talent scholars are hard to come by unlike football

  5. Pauoa Boy April 5, 2012 2:14 pm

    Killah… I going watch no matter what, but just saying the team not looking good with these guys leaving. In the two years so far almost a whole team worth of players have left the program. I not just a fan but have played ball all my life and still ball. I’m sure Gib got replacements but if a kid isn’t in the system long enough then all Coach doing is wasting time having to re-teach the basics over and over again. Hard for move forward teaching new things when you only have a couple guys that played any significant minutes.

  6. rainbowfan April 5, 2012 3:13 pm

    How come Calipari has his players for only one or two years, but they manage success and even to win a national championship ? I know he has talented players.

  7. jiminy cricket April 5, 2012 3:59 pm

    We now see the problem clearly. It is Gib Arnold and his Dr. Jekyl and Mr. Hyde personality. That’s why the players are leaving. Think the current players will talk up Hawaii to the potential recruits? See dark clouds on the horizon if Gib doesn’t change his ways.

  8. Pauoa Boy April 5, 2012 4:43 pm

    Easy Calipari gets top notch players every year without even trying. If Hawaii had All-Americans on their team every year and top players to reload instead of replace then the one-two year player transitions wouldn’t be so significant. Coach Gib may be a decent recruiter but I don’t see no HS All-Americans or elite guys on the team so to speak…maybe Shaq Stokes. The talent level between a Kentucky team compared to Hawaii is like Varsity against Junior Varsity it just doesn’t compare. Shaq Stokes has the talent to be an elite PG if Coach will give him minutes, but hard when he was riding bench. Any program like the North Carolinas, Dukes, Kansas, Kentuckys, etc… will always real in the best players and if the players do leave its not because they are switching teams 9 times out of 10 they are headed to the NBA…

  9. jkjones April 5, 2012 5:14 pm

    Pauoa Boy makes a legit point, unless you are simply clueless.
    Coach Arnold is showing chinks in the armor and fans are justifiably raising red flags.
    6-7 attritions and 5 no-shows in 2 years is not the solid-stuff successful programs reflect…

  10. jjay April 5, 2012 5:20 pm

    Arnold stated today on the “Animals Show ESPN 1420 ” that he has two scholies, Brian may be correct with the three if you count Jefferson’s which will be gone and that would be the third.

  11. heluhelu April 5, 2012 8:15 pm

    “He also generally took care of the ball, boasting an effective, if limited, assist-to-turnover ratio.” — Sorry to disagree but, by almost any measure, an AST/TO ratio of 1.2 (shared by Miles *and* Stokes) for a *point* guard is not “effective.” You could go a little stronger than “dicey” to describe the status quo at point.

  12. al April 6, 2012 5:28 pm

    it is not unusual to have a swinging door in d1 basketball. it happens all across the nation. it is just that with 15-17 roster players one or two leaving seems like a lot.

    baseball has as many coming and going percentage wise. its just that nobody pays as much attention to them.

  13. Brian McInnis April 9, 2012 7:03 pm

    Hey Heluhelu,

    Hence “limited,” because the sample size was smaller than that of a regular rotation player. I agree that 1.2 isn’t what you’re looking for out of a starting PG, but for a college backup, it’s not terrible, assuming it comes in small doses. Ostrowski’s sparkling senior ratio of 2.6 is pretty rare at this level.

    Yup, there’s absolutely questions about how the team will handle PG duties next year, so you’re welcome to slap on any adjectives you like about that. Thanks for posting.

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