Comments on: Tulimasealii, Gifford suspended

By: Stephen Tsai

Stephen Tsai — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:46:45 +0000

New post:
http://www.hawaiiwarriorworld.com/?p=36937

By: Old School Dave

Old School Dave — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 17:26:16 +0000

Sorry, the legal speak stay too complicated for me. It’s just me, but in the old days if a police officer said “stop,” you stopped. If the officer said to “come here,” you went there. If the officer said to “keep quiet,” you shut up. If the officer was pilau, then you got his name and tag.

I just hope things work out for the best for all of the parties. Hard life lesson, no doubt. Not that it would have helped, but this is one of the reasons Texas coach Charlie Strong wanted all of his players living on campus. The team needs to move on with a depleted D-line.

By: GeorgeM

GeorgeM — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 16:28:00 +0000

Lots of armchair lawyers here. There actually is an obstruction of justice in HRS which is a class c felony, but it probably doesn’t apply for Gifford, which is what Actual Counselor or whatever his name was talking about. KT is reported to have fought with officers (while apparently butt naked) and needed pepper spray and the use of force to take him down and arrest him. I’m pretty sure that could be enough grounds for HPD to slap a resisting arrest charge, because usually violence against officers in the course of an arrest usually is enough to qualify as “resisting,” and in certain jurisdictions, it could take it up to a felony level.

Being a counselor (I’m assuming this means in the school system) for 28 years doesn’t add any kind of credibility to someone’s statement about law unless by “counselor” you mean “lawyer.”

Gifford made an incredibly poor choice to try to push officers off of his friend who was being arrested by officers.

As far as Jeezy33’s comments go, I believe he’s off the mark, here. “Politically Correct” is a term that’s thrown around to try and undercut someone’s credibility making an argument like “oh, he’s just being too sensitive.” Also, the “18 year old going out with a 17 year old” example really isn’t relevant to anything at all, because that has nothing to do with what Actual Counselor said.

In any context, interfering with LEOs carrying out an arrest is a really dumb decision. Really dumb. Whether or not Gifford gets charged with anything, who knows. The prosecutor may not think it’s worth it to take to court and might focus on KT instead. Either way, it doesn’t excuse his actions, and I’m sure if you ask him if what he did was the right move, he would probably say the same as well. Just stupid choices all around and an unfortunate series of life choices from KT.

By: Boolakanaka

Boolakanaka — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 12:05:38 +0000

Lucid and cogent counselor Nasti.

By: NotNasti

NotNasti — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:56:31 +0000

In my experience, whenever a person is charged with resisting arrest, one of two things happened. First, the person actually physically resisted the officer’s attempt to arrest him. Or, police officers charge a person who was not actually resisting with the offense of resisting arrest in order to justify their excessive use of force. FYI: my experience 28+ years as an “actual counselor.”

By: NotNasti

NotNasti — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:49:32 +0000

29. Actual Counselor must not be an Actual Counselor if he thinks that “obstruction of justice” is a class C felony. First of all, there is no such offense in the Hawaii Penal Code. Section 710-1010: Obstructing Government Operations, is a misdemeanor offense, punishable by up to one year in jail and/or a $2,000 fine. The actor has to intend to obstruct, impair or hinder the enforcement of the penal law or the preservation of the peace by a law enforcement officer acting under color of the law enforcement officer’s official authority . . .
So . . . even if KG pushed the officer, did he do it with the intent to prevent the arrest?

By: Jeezy33

Jeezy33 — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 10:39:38 +0000

29. Yes Mr Politically correct… Again, you’re quick to point at the law without paying attention to actual context. You’re probably the same kind a person that thinks an 18 year old can go to prison for being in a relationship with someone 17 because of the law.
I’ll just wait and laugh when these charges get dropped.

By: legistlature

legistlature — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 08:54:23 +0000

Jeremiah 13

16 Give glory to the LORD your God
before it is too late.
Acknowledge him before he brings darkness upon you,
causing you to stumble and fall on the darkening mountains.
For then, when you look for light,
you will find only terrible darkness and gloom.
Proverbs 8

13 All who fear the LORD will hate evil.
Therefore, I hate pride and arrogance,
corruption and perverse speech.
Isaiah 11

4 He will give justice to the poor
and make fair decisions for the exploited.
The earth will shake at the force of his word,
and one breath from his mouth will destroy the wicked.
Job 12

10 For the life of every living thing is in his hand,
and the breath of every human being.

By: jeffdman2009

jeffdman2009 — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:46:09 +0000

oh no we suck again

By: legistlature

legistlature — Fri, 15 Apr 2016 07:07:06 +0000

Repent–Forgive–Turn to God
Acts 13
38 *”Brothers, listen! We are here to proclaim that through this man Jesus there is forgiveness for your sins.39 Everyone who believes in him is declared right with God—something the law of Moses could never do.
“Continue to rely on the grace of God.”
Proverbs 3

5 Trust in the LORD with all your heart;
do not depend on your own understanding.